December 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Episode Highlights With Tyler
- How he got into gut and skin health work and his personal story with it
- Peeling skin on his fingertips led him to a deep dive into this topic
- Gut health shows up on the skin - if there are skin issues, something is going on underneath
- The autoimmune connection and how almost everything can be resolved
- Looking at gut and diet and what IGG food allergies are
- A lot of people are constipated and don’t realize it
- Key signs that an issue is more than just skin deep
- Surprising things related to autoimmune disease
- Why fast food is one of the worst things we can do for our digestion and health, and it isn’t what you think
- The biggest triggers he sees for skin issues
- The Wellness Way on X, on Facebook, and on Instagram
- Dr. Tyler Kruse and The Wellness Way on Instagram
- The Wellness Way Coralville
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I'm Katie from aalnesswama dot com and I'm here today
with doctor Tyler Cruse to talk about the gut skin
connection and why clear skin starts from the inside and
we get to go some fascinating directions. In this conversation,
(04:02):
he makes a very strong case for how almost every
skin issue is a reflection of something going on internally
and deserves an internal look at the gut not just
treatment on the skin itself. We talk about autoimmunity, we
talk about natural light, we talk about melanin, we talk
about germ and terrain theory and what the difference is there,
and so much more. Definitely a fascinating conversation. But if
(04:24):
you're not familiar with him, he is a chiropractor and
holistic health advocate. Who else people reconnect with natural sustainable
ways to heal and he has years of experience working
people across the board and with different backgrounds, focusing on
gut health, nervous system balance, hormones', immune system, and whole
body wellness. And I will link to his resources in
the show notes as well. Let's jump in and learn,
(04:46):
Doctor Tyler, Welcome, Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Thanks for the invite. I'm super excited to get to
chat with you. You've had a lot of great people
on your podcast. I'm excited to be a part of that,
and we have some great topics to share with your
audience today.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm excited to learn for you today and I feel
like our first topic is going to be especially relevant
to a subset of the people listening, and actually, like
personally it was relevant to me historically in that one
of my kids was born BC section due to placenta previa,
and he had skin issues when he was young, which
led me into a deep dive on gut health. We
eventually reversed his eczema and his gut issues and now
he has food intolerances and is doing great. But that
(05:21):
was a long process, and I think I learned a
lot of things the hard way in that versus having
a guid who actually knew what they were doing. And
from researching for this episode, it sounds like you also
actually had personal experience with this that somewhat led into
the work that you're doing. And I want to make
sure we go deep on the solutions today, but as background,
can you walk us through how you got into this
and maybe some of the kind of foundational things that
(05:42):
you learned along the way.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Absolutely, So when I kind of got more into the
natural health, they're kind of healing my body from more
of a natural standpoint, was actually more based on like
my mom and my sister's health, So then I started
to get into it as well, and I never really
thought much of it. So a lot of people think
that their exzema or their skin condition or you know,
all of these you know, even maybe an autoimmune condition
or whatnot is normal. Right, They're told, hey, you'll have
(06:06):
to live with this. Hey, you're going to have to
do this. And I was no different, right, So my
big thing was my fingertips. The skin was like peeling back,
so I would always look pink. It would always be
very tender to the touch because my skin would peel
and most you know, I tried every steroid cream you
can imagine. I tried every antibiotic. I played hockey growing up,
and almost every single doctor's approach to me was, you know, hey,
(06:27):
you have bacteria. You know, bacteria in your gloves that
aren't you know, airing out properly, different things like that.
And so it got to the point where we would
professionally clean my gloves after every practice, every game. And
that's a big financial burden to have somebody do that
after every single time I wore them. And it didn't
get better. And so I actually went to my chiropractor. Then,
as a lot of people probably selling here, I am
a chiropractor. We did a lot of the adjusting side
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of things, and I mentioned it to her and she's like, hey,
let me do a little bit of research, and she
started to just give me some supplements and I hadn't
done any testing at that point. I would take the supplements,
it would literally get better. I'd be like, I don't
want to take these. Forever I'd stop, it would get worse.
And so that was a really good indication, you know,
at that point looking back, that something else was going
on in my body, right, and that was no different
(07:11):
than you know, like a medicine approach. Right, Medicine there
to do its job, and then from there we need
to figure out why, you know, why you were dependent
on it. And so I was dependent on that something
and I couldn't figure out why. And it wasn't until
later on, after hockey and even getting to college. I
had some mul toxicity at college looking back, different things
like that. But it wasn't until I actually looked at
my digestive track, which you had kind of alluded to
(07:32):
it your child and my food allergies at that point.
So it turned out I had twenty two different IgG
food allergies. I did not have any igees. But so
when I looked at my digestive tract, I had an imbalance,
got microbiome. I had infections going on. I had a
very high based gluguranidase. I wasn't eliminating things well. So
then it started to add up like, Okay, if my
pathways are restricted or I'm not eliminating properly, well, then
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that makes a lot of sense on why stuff showing
up under my skin because it has to get out
of my body, right. My body doesn't want that in there.
And so that was kind of my eyeopening experience. And
it wasn't until I actually did that that now I
don't have to. Yes, I still take supplements based on
my testing just the world we live in. That kind
of stuff support my body with what's necessary, but I'm
not dependent on it to keep my fingertips from peeling it.
I mean, it was at the point too where it
(08:16):
was so painful. I didn't want to shake people's hands.
I didn't want to, you know, even show people my
hands and let alone. I had already decided I want
to be a chiropractor at that point, which obviously we
adjust people. We do a lot more at the wolen
Sway coralvill here. But with that, you know, I was like, well,
am I gonna do?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I can't be you know, having people see my fingertips
like this, So that was kind of the long story short.
Once I started to get my elimination paths there, I
got my inflammation down, my immune system started to heal.
Things got a lot better from that skin standpoint.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, this is so fascinating to me, and I would
guess it sounds like it's very much a multifaceted thing,
of which the gut is a big piece and not
necessarily the one that's first looked at. When someone maybe
just goes to a dermatologist, for instance, they're probably not
first asked like what do you eat and how their
gut health is, or given a stool test. I love
that you also touched on the autoimmunity side because that
is very relevant to me personally, and that years ago
(09:05):
I was told I had hashimotoves, that I would have
it for the rest of my life. That is, there's
nothing that I could do about it. That food, of
course doesn't help. There's nothing that I could do at
home that would help, and I would just need to
take medication for the rest of my life, which long
time listeners know is not the case. I now take
no medication, I have no antibodies. Things are not just
in remission. I have no signs of autoimmunity, so I
know firstthand it can be possible. And I also know
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that is not commonly talked about. That's definitely not told
to people by most practitioners. So I love when I
find someone like you who's willing to like really do
that deep dive, go into the root cause and help
someone actually resolve something versus kind of mask it. And
you mentioned that when things come out of the skin,
that that's kind of it's indicative of what's going on
on the inside, and that that's sort of if it
has to come out of the skin, it's because it
(09:48):
can't be handled effectively internally. Can you go deeper on
that and maybe talk about like how does gut health
show up on the skin? What's happening kind of underneath
the surface when we see something on the surface.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, so when we see stuff on the surface, a
lot of times, you know, the word leaky gut gets
thrown around out their hyper intestinal permeability however you want
to word it. But when you have that going on,
your gut lining is going to be compromised, and what
that's going to do is you have a majority of
your immune system in your gut. I don't want to
give an exact percentage. I usually say an estimate seventy
five to eighty five percent of your immune system stems
(10:20):
in your gut microbialme. And so if you're starting to
have imbalances, dys biosis, different changes in your gut microbiome
that aren't properly supported or addressed, and that's why it's
so important to stay on top of things right. So
you know, like think of exercise, for example, everybody you
know that is exercise likes to do it daily or
you know, multiple times a week. So you know, that's
where like testing comes into play, is staying on top
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of your gut. My gut can look a lot different,
you know, end of July here than it will in
December based on you know, did I make good decisions
around the holidays, did I do different you know, support
for my digestive track. And the other thing that I
really like with testing from a gut microviolme and a
skin standpoint is a lot of people that have bloating,
indigestion or skin condition and a lot of skin conditions
from a gut issue are going to show up as
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you know, flare ups with certain foods, rashes, ezemas, you know,
different peeling. Like in my situation and when I'm like
walking through public I'm at the grocery store, I'm getting
my groceries. I can pick out if like, yeah, that
gut needs help. You know, I can tell by looking
at somebody's skins, you know what the inside kind of
looks like because it's such a major organ It's kind
of like our body's alarm system, right. I mean, you
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have a fire alarm at your house or where your
residents if there's a fire, well, same thing, if there's
a fire inside, that's our alarm.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
System is our skin.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And so you know, big things that you can tell,
like I mentioned rashes, ezma. The other thing is just
like the quality of them. Can they hold a good tands?
You know, then you're getting into like the melanin and
the different skin tones and whatnot. But also another kind
of test that if people have severe like histamine or
mass sell activation, which a lot of people in today's
will do just based off of the processed food we
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live in the environments that we're in. But like I'll
tell some people, you know, just take your hand and
just rub it on your skin and if that turns
super red, super fast, you have some subcutaneous you know,
high amounts of you know, histamine inflammation. You know, we
don't know for sure un till we dive in a
little bit, but that's a pretty good indication. So by
looking at like the redness, the quality of their skin,
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you know, does it look good, like good moisture, you know,
like those kinds of things are going to be really important.
The other things, you know, how are they aging? You know,
that stuff that we can look at from the skin,
but a lot of times it's going to show up
with ezema acmes. You can look at the patterns. Is
it more on the jaw, is it more on the back,
is it all over the place. I have a few
patients that come to mind. One of them she actually
sat in front of me and her legs were like
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bleeding because her rashes and her exima was so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And she's like, I basically I try.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
To everything, and just a month into working on dietary
and digestive tracts, she's like, it's ninety eight percent better.
She's like, it hasn't bled, it hasn't done this and
so just by looking at okay, knowing that like, hey,
I'm not going to give you anything to do topically here,
I guess here's something if it really really hurts.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But if we keep doing that approach, you're going to
be in the same boat in a year.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And so that was one way that gut showed up
on this skin there one of my earliest patients in practice.
Kind of a not really crazy situation, but how it
showed up was it was just a little bit of
a red rash. Didn't hurt her, nothing like that. She
literally came in and said, hey, I've had this for
ten to fifteen years. It's literally cosmetic. I don't feel
the pain. I don't do anything. But like I go
to the swimming pool with my kids, I like to
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wear a swimsuit and people notice it and it's kind
of embarrassing just personally, right, it would help my confidence
to have this gone. And I was like, sweet, let's
let's look at your gut, let's look at your diet.
It turns out she had an IgG food allergy, which
I know is that some people have controversy with those.
The labs that you use for testing is very imperative
I will put that out there, make sure you get
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a very good quality that's researched. But long story, short
with that story is she had an IgG to broccoli. Well,
broccoli is a very healthy food Crucifer's vegetable for you know,
ninety five percent plus of the world. But in her situation,
her immune system was struggling with that at that given time.
And so that was one thing we had to cut out.
And now she had some stuff in her stool test.
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But you know, just kind of a you know, it
probably never would have been nothing we could do topically
to make that rash go away until we looked at
the inside. And so those are kinds of ways that
they're going to show up now. Non skin symptoms bloating, constipated,
which constipation and skin. I really want to hit on
that for a second because a lot of people don't realize.
You know a lot of people are constipated and they
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don't realize it. So one bowel minimum one to two
a day is what I like to see of good consistency.
And so I'll get patients like, oh, three times a
week's not good. I'm like, no, that's not that's fermentation.
That's not elimination, eliminating you know, pathogens, toxins, recycling, hormones,
I mean, stools a major detoxification pathway. So very common
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to see constipation and skin concerns come together, and so
that's one way that you can get a pretty good
idea of, you know, your health as well as is
skin and then bowel movements.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm definitely excited to go deeper on that, and especially
because I feel like this really challenges the idea that
the skin is sort of like an isolated organ and
helps connect it to the rest of the body, which
also then makes it seem more logical that you're not
just going to treat the skin topically, which is definitely
how I used to think of it, especially when I
was a teenager who had acne, for instance, it was like,
what can I put on my skin that's going to
fix this? Versus I didn't think to look internally at
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that age, of course, And I know many teenagers now
are on pretty harsh things, even including like acutane, which
can have some really serious side effects, which is an
internal thing that they take. But I'm curious, like, what
are some of the key signs that something might be
more than just skin deep or is it pretty much
indicative if there's skin issues, there's likely something always kind
of going on under the surface.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Also, yes, I would say if you have some degree
of a skin concern, there's something going on deeper down.
The skin is that kind of that alarm system, so
you can know something's going deep down now, Like you
had kind of mentioned when you were younger, there's a
time and place where the acne may be more hormonially driven.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Absolutely, and that's why looking at the body as a
whole is very imperative. But by working on your gut
in turn that should you know, it intuitively help your
skin if you get your stress response down. So anytime
you see an issue with the skin, you know, rashes, eczemas,
peeling of the skins, you know, redness, it's kind of
like you know, you get a bug bite or a cut,
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it becomes red. You know, that's a really good indication
because you kind of mentioned that the skin is a
phenomenal thing to look at because it tells so much
internally and it's really, honestly, in my opinion, our biggest
organ because we have so much skin on our body
and it's exposed to so much. And it's really actually
our first barrier too, because on a daily basis, with
the world we live in with you know, with EMF exposure,
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with you know, the VOCs that we're.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Exposed to, the diesel fuels, that.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
All this stuff that's just very chemically sound, you'll glycopate
round up. Our skin goes through a lot, and so
it's a really good barrier. And honestly that's why you know,
sometimes things that bypass that skin barrier can become you know,
immune system stressors as well, because you have that barrier.
Your nasal cavity has a barrier, your oral cavity has barriers,
so you have a lot of barriers before we even
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get to your digestive track. And so you know, that
just shows that when when we have the amount of
you know, toxic load that we have, you know, eventually
that is going to start to affect the gut microbiome.
And then when the gut microbounds affected, the immune systems affected.
And so that's one thing too when it comes to
like viruses and pathogens and mold toxicities. You know, yes,
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if you're living in a house and I touched the
wall right here and it falls down. Yeah, chances are
that molds pretty hard on the immune system, right, I mean,
we don't want to be exposed to high amounts of
toxic mold over long periods of time, but in the
long run too. I kind of like to look at
it from what I call a terrain in a germ theory. Right,
So a lot of people from the germ theory would
say that mold is making me severely sick.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Disagree with that necessarily because that is a fungal, that
is a toxin. But also what's the state of your terrain,
because some people are in a molding environment and not
as effective as others. Now there's you know, you we
could get down a rabbit hole of you know, Okay,
what's the methylation, the elimination pathways, all of that place
of factor too, you know, but the gut plays a
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major role because if you already have yeast infections, then
you're exposed to that your immune systems suppressed. Then, yeah,
that I am worried about that mold exposure for you.
But if you have a healthy terrain, you focused on
your immune response, you have the nutrients you need, you
probably can handle that exposure.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
A little bit better.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now, that's not to discount the fact, like I said,
if you're exposed to bad, micotoxic and environment on a
day and day out basis, you're sleeping in it, you're
cooking in it, you're living in it. You know, Yes,
that's something we want to have a conversation about. But
I also don't want people to get so in tune
with a germ theory approach of like, you know that virus.
You know that flu virus is the reason I feel
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the way that I do. And it's like, I mean, yeah,
the virus made you sick, but what does your terrain
look like? Why did it take over so bad? Do
your barriers? Are they in bad condition? Is your gut
lining in such a bad condition that it's just going
through your bloodstream that your immune system is having to
get beat up? I mean you had mentioned with your
autoimmune journey, which is phenomenal. I love hearing stories like
that because that is a prime example of you know,
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some people may never get the antivice to go away,
some will, like you, but if you do the right changes,
you're symptomatic can change because like autoimmune, for example, looking
at the gut and then like something like a mold
or environmental exposure is a major component, which you know
the diet is too, especially in something like a hashibodos.
But when I think of autoimmunity, some things that blow
(19:20):
my mind with it is I love to use the
example of Celiacs because if someone tells you they have
a Celiac disease, everybody knows you can't eat gluten. Okay,
So that's the one autoimmune condition that we've pinpointed a
trigger for. So that right there tells you by definition
that an autoimmune condition has a trigger. And so with
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that we should have kind of a light bulb moment
at that point understand that, Okay, it's the immune system's
affected and it's driving an autoimmunity. But that immune systems
not necessarily making a mistake there, it's responding to the
stressors that placed on it. So back to the Celiacs example,
we know that gluten's a stressor. So if you eat
gluten and you have CELIACX, is it your immune system
fault or is it your fault for eating gluten that
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you know triggers that CELIAX. And so that's what I
dive into deep with an autoimmune side of things or
an immune system side of things. Regardless if you have
an autoimmune responsor or not. We want to find what's
triggering your immune system that we can make changes on
because overall speaking, our bodies can handle a lot, right,
we were meant to handle a lot of stress. But
eventually between physical, chemical, and emotional stress, which we call
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them the three t's here, thoughts, traumas, toxins, and that's
why chiropractic care, that's why exercise physical stuff is phenomenal.
But then we also need to look at the chemical
and the emotional side of things, and that's where if
we can encompass all of those, that's where we can
start see improvement, which it sounds like you were able
to do, which, like I said, I love hearing those
stories because not only does that drive hope into somebody's
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health journey, which I think is a very very big
misconn conception. So I many times have conversations with patients
and it's as simple as, look, I need you to
believe that you can heal because there is an emotional components.
Then if you don't actually believe that you can heal
from this, you know, then we can do all we can,
we make it a little bit of improvement, but we
have to get you emotionally connected to this because there's
a major emotional stresser. And kind of back to I
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was thinking of your analogy earlier. I usually use with
like the you know, getting to the root and what
was really going on. I love this analogy and I
use it with quite a few patients. So if you
have issues, I think of it as a gas tank.
So if you have a hole in the gas tank,
it's going to be drained. A lot of today's society
instead of figuring out why we have the hole and
what can we do to fix that, they just grab
the gas and keep filling the container and hope that
(21:31):
it never runs out. But if we fix that, you
know why that is, then theoretically we could fill it
up not have to constantly be filling it up. And
some of that has to do with the microwave society
we live in. We have way too much fast food
available to people. You know, they're ordering it, they're going
through the drive through, they're getting a brown paper bag,
they rip it open and they eat it. That is
one of the worst things we can do for our
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gut health, for our digestive track, because one of the
major ways we start digestion is seeing it, smelling it,
and producing the those enzymes in our mouth down to
our stomach to produce our stomach acid. So a lot
of these people are going in not only eating the
rich foods, that's super process, but then they don't have
the proper stomach acid. They don't have this you know,
steps A, B, and C of digestion, so they're starting
with D and then you know, then our digestive tract
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not you know, side effect of the terrible food in
the first place, but then we're not ready to digest it,
and then it just becomes more stress, puts you in
a sympathetic fight or flight state when really rest and
digest pairasympathetics more of a digestive state. And so that's
just kind of some of the things that you know
that I see from that standpoint.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, you touched on so many good things, and I
love that you brought up germ theory versus terrain theory.
I feel like that deserves to be hopefully a whole
podcast on its own at some point if we can
circle back on that. But people who are not familiar
with that I just leave the question to consider of
that of all the people exposed to something like a
given quote unquote germ or virus, not every single person
will give sick and why is that? And like looking
(22:54):
deeper into that question because I was a fascinating rabbit
hole that I got to go down recently and it's
really really interesting, But like I said, that would end
up kind of hijacking the whole conversation. I also love
that you brought up the mindset and the emotional piece,
because I think this part is overlooked a lot, especially
in the clinical world, and at least in my experience,
was vital in that kind of my healing followed my
mental and emotional relation to it as well, in that
(23:17):
when I was saying I'm sick, my body's attacking itself,
that was what was happening, and that was my experience
that I kept reinforcing subtly even in my actions. And
then when I started saying even just I am healing
and every day I get better, I started noticing changes.
And then as my mindset shifted to I am healed,
this is no longer a thing, then my labs eventually
reflected that as well. And of course, I was doing
(23:39):
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not really given enough weight when it comes to just
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On that note too.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would also love to dig at you touched on
some of them, and I love your take on fast food,
not just being the food itself, but the way that
it's eaten and the removal from the creation of the food,
and that being problematic. What are some of the biggest
triggers that you see in the modern lifestyle and diet
as like potential triggers for skin issues.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
So some of the major things I usually tell people
if you don't have a food allergy, tester's categories of
foods that I push people to avoid, and I've actually
tweaked them a little bit more just based off of
some of my research and stuff I've looked into and
what I see on a daily basis with the clinical observations.
But the number one thing is the conventional dairy. If
you don't have a dairy allergy, I don't think something
(28:16):
like grass, the grass finished organic dairy is a bad option.
I do push people more so instead of any of
the liquid cheeses, do more of the hard cheeses. The
fermentation process of it has a little bit more support
for our digestive tracks. But then gluten, so wheat. The
big thing with the wheat is the enrichment the way
that we process it. A lot of people in America
notice that too. If they go over to like Europe,
(28:37):
they don't feel as bad when they eat that stuff.
And some of that has to do with how we
process it. And enrich it and so.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Kind of with ye I've added yeast.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeast is a very opportunistic effect to not only our
immune system but our gut, which kind of goes hand
in hand like we talked about beforehand. But when you
eat too much each you suppress your immune system. And
actually what I see on a lot of food allergy
tests is a brewers or a Baker's allergy. And so
if you have not only an allergy, or you have
maybe a yeast in becsi your gut or maybe but
(29:05):
you know, back to mold what we talked about, maybe
you have mold fungal in your body and you start
fueling that with that yeast, and that brings the immune
system down even more. Then we can't respond to things.
And then you know, those are the people that, like
you had just mentioned what the German train theories are
in a bad situation. You know. You know, we've had
a lot of you know, viruses be a big issue
lately in the area. And one thing that you know,
(29:27):
I talk to people about is like, what's the state
of your immune system. If you don't know what your
immune system's like, you don't know what your health like,
you're not doing things to promote your health, then you
maybe want to be scared of that. You may be
more in the germ theory, but if you're more in
the train theory, you're doing what your body needs. You know,
our bodies innate immune system and our bodies adaptive immune
system that we were born with know what to do with,
(29:48):
you know, certain viruses and pathogens and that kind of stuff.
So that would be number two to be gluten slash
yeast refine sugars. So yes, glucose is essential for life.
Everything breaks down to a sugar, though a lot of
people don't realize that. It just takes long longer. Right
if you eat a piece of grass bed grass fish steak,
that's going to take longer to break down to a
sugar than a potato, But it all ends up as
a simple starch carbohydrate eventually. The other things is soy.
(30:12):
Soy is a very modified food in America. And the
other thing kind of on the thyroid side of things.
You had mentioned your journey with hashimotos but with the
thyroid side of things, soy is going to slow down
that thyroid. So we don't want to be slowing the
thyroid down too much now, there is a situation where
you may have a hypberd thyroid, you know, that kind
of stuff, which is very much where you need to
(30:33):
be working with somebody. You need to understand the physiology
and the biol chemistry of it. But I do push
people to avoid soy, especially females as well, because it
has some degree of you know, like a phytoe estrogen
approach to it, so it can affect your estrogens a
little bit as well, so swimen more so, but I
push men too. And then honestly, the other thing that
I've started to add to that is which you know,
I'm being in the Midwest here, people probably think I'm crazy,
(30:55):
but I've added corn to that list because corn is
a very modified food as well. It's a very starchpased food.
There's a lot of additives the way that the farming
is there's a lot of glycophate stuff around added to it.
And the other thing too with you know, corn and
stuff is is it's very hard on the digestive track, right, There's.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
A reason why we eat corn. You see it in your.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Stool and some people laugh about that, and I'm like,
I think that just shows you you can't digest that adult.
So the whole point of eating, which this is kind
of getting back to, you know, history, and you know
our ancestors and whatnot, and history can tell you a
lot of things, not only in the health world, but
in everything, right, But one thing you noticed is our
ancestors didn't eat for pleasure. Our ancestors ate for nutrients.
(31:36):
They ate the entire animal.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
They eate it.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Down to the bone, they every organ, they everything that
they needed because food was not an emotional thing for them.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Food was a necessity for them.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Now with what we have at hand, how you can
go to McDonald's and get a meal for six dollars
and you know, and be told that, oh, it's a
hacky meal.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
We've added a piece of fruit to it, so it's healthy.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
No, not necessarily, you know, not even close to the
approach that we need to be with that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But what I'm getting out of that is.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Food has become very emotional, and so I want people
We talked about the emotional side of things of believing
you can heal, which is very key, but also we
need to understand the emotional decision when we're eating food
as well. Because if you think of birthday parties get
together as family gatherings, hanging out on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What is it always around?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Ninety percent of the time, it's around food. Hey, let's
meet up at this restaurant. Hey, let's do this, let's
make this food now. Yes, you could be making you know,
organic healthy options and having a good get together with
your friends. But but my point with that is we've
become very emotional food. If you have a stressful day,
what do you want. You don't want a nice organic
steak with an organic salad. You want chocolate. And there's
(32:40):
a reason you want that because that's putting you in
the fight or flight state. That's changing your cortisol and
changing your Shirkidian rhythm as well.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So I really push.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Field to avoid those avoided foods. And then another thing
that I'm starting to get into more, which I know
you recently had some people on the podcast talk about
mold toxicity, which is becoming a very big things. But
one thing that I've started to find in certain foods,
and not even if you have a proven mold issue,
but I'm finding that the way that citric acid is
(33:08):
derived in synthetic form is affecting people very negatively. And
why that is is citric acid. If you look into
the derivery how it's derived, it's based on corn to
some degree, but it's based on Aspergillus nigeria, which is
a mold, and so they're basically synthetically deriving citric acid
from a mold and putting it into drinking certain foods,
(33:29):
certain even electrolyte powders. And the level matters. Don't get
me wrong with that. The level matters. But when you're
putting that into your body, if you especially if you
have a you know, if you're more sensitive to mold
or viruses, or you know, urine systems not in a
great situation, you know that can really affect you as well.
So I've kind of added that list, and I use
this with some patients too. People heard the whole food diet.
(33:50):
I mean, there's a reason that you know, certain foods
that the earth can produce are better. A few other
kind of quick tips I like to give people on
the nutritional side of things, is the longer the list
of the ingredients, the better chance you should probably put
it back on the shelf. If you're having to open
a box, there's a chance you should put it back
on the shelf. And then kind of more restrictive, but
gets the point across. Two points to this is if
(34:11):
it has a label, chances are it may not be
the best option for you. So aka, your fruits, your vegetables,
your meat counter don't have labels on them usually. And
then the third thing, which this is just my opinion.
It very well could not have anything to do with it.
But if you notice a grocery store when you walk in,
what's on the outside, vegetables, fruits, meat, what's right in
(34:31):
the center of the store, all the processed boxes of
mac and cheese, candies, all of that kind of stuff.
That's just, in my opinion of marketing strategy, because when
you go to a store, you're through, you're around the
center of the store a lot more than you are
on the outside, and so they know that a it's
cheaper to process that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Two.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
A lot of those foods have msgs that stimulate our
glue to may and why you eat it. You're like, yes,
I feel amazing, that is exactly what my stress is
so much better, and then ten minutes later you're like,
oh man, I got diarye and my gut hurts. All
of that kind of stuff it's because they've added that
to the food, it's affecting our neurotransmitters.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But that's just honestly, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
There's no research that shows that's why grocery stores do
it that way, but I think I think it is
because every groth store I go into, the dead center
of it is never good healthy options for people, and
a lot of times the health market is way off
on the side too, which that's another week, could go
down a whole podcast to that. Like you had mentioned
with the germ theory and training theories, why does a
store need a help market.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Shouldn't all food.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That we're providing people be you know, to some degree
beneficial for our help, But instead we have a health
market or organic section, whatever you want to call it.
But yeah, that's just a whole other rabbit hole that
I always question when I'm in stores.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, and that's actually that's often, like you said, very
hard to find or obscure or like divide it up
into little sections that are like really hard difficult to find.
I know if there have been grocery stores I've been
to for years and finally found sections I didn't even
know we're there that had more organic options, But you're right,
could be a whole nother podcast. And I know we're
getting to the end of our time for this episode.
You guys stay tuned because we're to do another episode
(36:01):
that goes even deeper on this with the gut stress connection.
But before we put a pin in this one, I
want to just briefly touch on one more thing that
you said, which was about melanin and the ability of
the skin to handle sun exposure in a healthy way
and the connection to inflammation here. And the reason I
want to bring this up is a that anytime I
get to talk about the benefits of natural light and
the sun, I love.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
And b I have Irish German heritage. I used to
burn in five minutes growing up, and with all the
dietarian lifestyle changes and in the reversal of my autoimmunity,
I now do not sunburn even living at the beach,
and can handle sun exposure in normal, healthy amounts and
no problem. But more importantly, I used to be vitamin
D deficient all the time. Taking supplements did absolutely nothing
(36:44):
Now with getting sun exposure. My most recent test it
was eighty six naturally with no supplements, So I just
love to bring this up because I feel like it's
another like massively impactful and often overlooked area of skin health.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Absolutely, which eighty six is a great number. I usually
say seventy to eight. And then if your auto if
you autoimmune.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Or history of it, about eighty is what I like
to see.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
So that's phenomenal. But that's just a great attestament to
what I actually talk to a lot of people about.
If you burn easily, you know, you're a prime example
of this. It doesn't really matter what your ancestors are,
your heritage. If you burn easily, that's a sign that
you have digestive distress and or liver health. And the
reason I say that is a lot of vitamin D
is converted in the liver. But like you had mentioned,
you know, sometimes supplements don't raise that up, and a
(37:24):
lot of that has to do with Vitamin D is
a fat soluble vitamin, and so you AD, E and
K are your fat soluble vitamins, and so you have
to be able to break down a fat to get
the benefit of vitamin D. And so, like you had
kind of mentioned, by far the best source is natural
which on our next podcast, I'm going to talk, you know,
probably bring up circadian rhythm a lot, just with stress
(37:45):
and whatnot. But sunlight helps set that circadian rhythm. So
really good thing you can do is watch the sun
rise and watch it come down, and that helps with
setting the circadian rhythm. But being able to digest and
absorb a fat soluble vitamin is essential when it comes
to vitamin D. And so I've actually seen a lot
of patients just like you that one of the things
that they'll talk about. It's not a question I asked directly,
(38:05):
but they'll be like, hey, I noticed I was out
on the lake with my family, and usually I would
just be roasted, like have to where all this sunscreen
is still burning and I forgot to the sunscreen I
didn't burn.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Is that have anything to do with what we're doing?
And I'm like, yeah, absolutely, Your.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Gut is starting to use the vitamin D more efficiently
in your body. And you know, that's a prime example
of you know, going to the beach getting the natural sunlight.
Your body knows how to convert that to a usable form.
When you have a good healthy gut microbio, you have
limited stress on your body. You know, those kinds of things.
But if you have high amounts of stress, you know, yes,
you may become more vitamin D deficient. And I would
say that's one of the major things I see on
(38:40):
bloodwork is vitamin D levels thirty and below, which is
just impossible to heal when you have a vitamin D
level that low, because it's essential for so many different things,
and you know, the immune system, the gut, and the
skin are major things because you need good fat saluable
vitamins for skin heel. And so that's a prime example
why you burn when your digestive track is in a
bad situation. You can't eat, get your fast soble vitements
(39:01):
to a usable form. Your skin is lacking nutrients that
it needs on a day in a day out basis.
And so kind of back to what we mentioned early
in the podcast is when you look at somebody, you
can kind of tell by their skin, you know, are
they relatively healthy or not. And you can kind of
tell too, can they break a fat solivel down are
they deficient it might have indeed, which.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
A lot of people are because a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Don't take D you know, initiative or the effort to
you know, get to the point like where you're at.
But when you do, then you start to reach some
of the benefits of being able to go out in
the sun and understand that the sun's really not that
scary if you body can use it the way that
it's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, great explanation. I feel like there's definitely some follow
up conversations we can hopefully have one day, like on
the German Train theory on going deeper on light in
the skin connection. But I feel like this has been
such an enlightening episode. I've taken a lot of notes
in the show notes for you guys listening on the
go that's at wellness mama dot com, along with links
to doctor Tyler's work and his resources that you guys
can find and learn from as well. And do stay
(39:55):
tuned because we're going to get to do an even
more in depth episode after this one that will air
next Doctor Tyler, for this episode, thank you so much.
This has been a fascinating conversation and I'm so grateful
for your time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Absolutely, I appreciate you having me on. It's been a
great conversation. I'm excited for the next one for people
to hop on. But yet the gut plays a major role.
And if I could give anybody some advice, I would
start with your diet and then you know, doing good
nutrients things so you know al vera, applesider, vinegar, simple
things like that can make a big change of your
digestive health. And if you can get your digestive health
to improve, I think you can see improving your health overall.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Amazing and I'll of course put links to this. I
know you have a lot of resources available and people
can even work with you directly. Where can people find you?
And I'll make sure to link to it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, they can find me on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok.
We have a clinic page, but Facebook and Instagram our
biggest ones. At Wollnensway Coralville. We have that on both
Facebook Instagram. I have a doctor Tyler Cruz on Instagram
as well. They can find me there at the Lollnenswaycorolbowl
dot COM's also our clinic page, so you can find
me at contact me and be happy to chat with
you guys.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, awesome, amazing. Well, thank you for your time and
you guys stay tuned for another episode. If you're enjoying
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I'm Katie from aalnesswama dot com and I'm here today
with doctor Tyler Cruse to talk about the gut skin
connection and why clear skin starts from the inside and
we get to go some fascinating directions. In this conversation,
(04:02):
he makes a very strong case for how almost every
skin issue is a reflection of something going on internally
and deserves an internal look at the gut not just
treatment on the skin itself. We talk about autoimmunity, we
talk about natural light, we talk about melanin, we talk
about germ and terrain theory and what the difference is there,
and so much more. Definitely a fascinating conversation. But if
(04:24):
you're not familiar with him, he is a chiropractor and
holistic health advocate. Who else people reconnect with natural sustainable
ways to heal and he has years of experience working
people across the board and with different backgrounds, focusing on
gut health, nervous system balance, hormones', immune system, and whole
body wellness. And I will link to his resources in
the show notes as well. Let's jump in and learn,
(04:46):
Doctor Tyler, Welcome, Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Thanks for the invite. I'm super excited to get to
chat with you. You've had a lot of great people
on your podcast. I'm excited to be a part of that,
and we have some great topics to share with your
audience today.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm excited to learn for you today and I feel
like our first topic is going to be especially relevant
to a subset of the people listening, and actually, like
personally it was relevant to me historically in that one
of my kids was born BC section due to placenta previa,
and he had skin issues when he was young, which
led me into a deep dive on gut health. We
eventually reversed his eczema and his gut issues and now
he has food intolerances and is doing great. But that
(05:21):
was a long process, and I think I learned a
lot of things the hard way in that versus having
a guid who actually knew what they were doing. And
from researching for this episode, it sounds like you also
actually had personal experience with this that somewhat led into
the work that you're doing. And I want to make
sure we go deep on the solutions today, but as background,
can you walk us through how you got into this
and maybe some of the kind of foundational things that
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you learned along the way.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Absolutely, So when I kind of got more into the
natural health, they're kind of healing my body from more
of a natural standpoint, was actually more based on like
my mom and my sister's health, So then I started
to get into it as well, and I never really
thought much of it. So a lot of people think
that their exzema or their skin condition or you know,
all of these you know, even maybe an autoimmune condition
or whatnot is normal. Right, They're told, hey, you'll have
(06:06):
to live with this. Hey, you're going to have to
do this. And I was no different, right, So my
big thing was my fingertips. The skin was like peeling back,
so I would always look pink. It would always be
very tender to the touch because my skin would peel
and most you know, I tried every steroid cream you
can imagine. I tried every antibiotic. I played hockey growing up,
and almost every single doctor's approach to me was, you know, hey,
(06:27):
you have bacteria. You know, bacteria in your gloves that
aren't you know, airing out properly, different things like that.
And so it got to the point where we would
professionally clean my gloves after every practice, every game. And
that's a big financial burden to have somebody do that
after every single time I wore them. And it didn't
get better. And so I actually went to my chiropractor. Then,
as a lot of people probably selling here, I am
a chiropractor. We did a lot of the adjusting side
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of things, and I mentioned it to her and she's like, hey,
let me do a little bit of research, and she
started to just give me some supplements and I hadn't
done any testing at that point. I would take the supplements,
it would literally get better. I'd be like, I don't
want to take these. Forever I'd stop, it would get worse.
And so that was a really good indication, you know,
at that point looking back, that something else was going
on in my body, right, and that was no different
(07:11):
than you know, like a medicine approach. Right, Medicine there
to do its job, and then from there we need
to figure out why, you know, why you were dependent
on it. And so I was dependent on that something
and I couldn't figure out why. And it wasn't until
later on, after hockey and even getting to college. I
had some mul toxicity at college looking back, different things
like that. But it wasn't until I actually looked at
my digestive track, which you had kind of alluded to
(07:32):
it your child and my food allergies at that point.
So it turned out I had twenty two different IgG
food allergies. I did not have any igees. But so
when I looked at my digestive tract, I had an imbalance,
got microbiome. I had infections going on. I had a
very high based gluguranidase. I wasn't eliminating things well. So
then it started to add up like, Okay, if my
pathways are restricted or I'm not eliminating properly, well, then
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that makes a lot of sense on why stuff showing
up under my skin because it has to get out
of my body, right. My body doesn't want that in there.
And so that was kind of my eyeopening experience. And
it wasn't until I actually did that that now I
don't have to. Yes, I still take supplements based on
my testing just the world we live in. That kind
of stuff support my body with what's necessary, but I'm
not dependent on it to keep my fingertips from peeling it.
I mean, it was at the point too where it
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was so painful. I didn't want to shake people's hands.
I didn't want to, you know, even show people my
hands and let alone. I had already decided I want
to be a chiropractor at that point, which obviously we
adjust people. We do a lot more at the wolen
Sway coralvill here. But with that, you know, I was like, well,
am I gonna do?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I can't be you know, having people see my fingertips
like this, So that was kind of the long story short.
Once I started to get my elimination paths there, I
got my inflammation down, my immune system started to heal.
Things got a lot better from that skin standpoint.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, this is so fascinating to me, and I would
guess it sounds like it's very much a multifaceted thing,
of which the gut is a big piece and not
necessarily the one that's first looked at. When someone maybe
just goes to a dermatologist, for instance, they're probably not
first asked like what do you eat and how their
gut health is, or given a stool test. I love
that you also touched on the autoimmunity side because that
is very relevant to me personally, and that years ago
(09:05):
I was told I had hashimotoves, that I would have
it for the rest of my life. That is, there's
nothing that I could do about it. That food, of
course doesn't help. There's nothing that I could do at
home that would help, and I would just need to
take medication for the rest of my life, which long
time listeners know is not the case. I now take
no medication, I have no antibodies. Things are not just
in remission. I have no signs of autoimmunity, so I
know firstthand it can be possible. And I also know
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that is not commonly talked about. That's definitely not told
to people by most practitioners. So I love when I
find someone like you who's willing to like really do
that deep dive, go into the root cause and help
someone actually resolve something versus kind of mask it. And
you mentioned that when things come out of the skin,
that that's kind of it's indicative of what's going on
on the inside, and that that's sort of if it
has to come out of the skin, it's because it
(09:48):
can't be handled effectively internally. Can you go deeper on
that and maybe talk about like how does gut health
show up on the skin? What's happening kind of underneath
the surface when we see something on the surface.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, so when we see stuff on the surface, a
lot of times, you know, the word leaky gut gets
thrown around out their hyper intestinal permeability however you want
to word it. But when you have that going on,
your gut lining is going to be compromised, and what
that's going to do is you have a majority of
your immune system in your gut. I don't want to
give an exact percentage. I usually say an estimate seventy
five to eighty five percent of your immune system stems
(10:20):
in your gut microbialme. And so if you're starting to
have imbalances, dys biosis, different changes in your gut microbiome
that aren't properly supported or addressed, and that's why it's
so important to stay on top of things right. So
you know, like think of exercise, for example, everybody you
know that is exercise likes to do it daily or
you know, multiple times a week. So you know, that's
where like testing comes into play, is staying on top
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of your gut. My gut can look a lot different,
you know, end of July here than it will in
December based on you know, did I make good decisions
around the holidays, did I do different you know, support
for my digestive track. And the other thing that I
really like with testing from a gut microviolme and a
skin standpoint is a lot of people that have bloating,
indigestion or skin condition and a lot of skin conditions
from a gut issue are going to show up as
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you know, flare ups with certain foods, rashes, ezemas, you know,
different peeling. Like in my situation and when I'm like
walking through public I'm at the grocery store, I'm getting
my groceries. I can pick out if like, yeah, that
gut needs help. You know, I can tell by looking
at somebody's skins, you know what the inside kind of
looks like because it's such a major organ It's kind
of like our body's alarm system, right. I mean, you
(11:25):
have a fire alarm at your house or where your
residents if there's a fire, well, same thing, if there's
a fire inside, that's our alarm.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
System is our skin.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And so you know, big things that you can tell,
like I mentioned rashes, ezma. The other thing is just
like the quality of them. Can they hold a good tands?
You know, then you're getting into like the melanin and
the different skin tones and whatnot. But also another kind
of test that if people have severe like histamine or
mass sell activation, which a lot of people in today's
will do just based off of the processed food we
(11:53):
live in the environments that we're in. But like I'll
tell some people, you know, just take your hand and
just rub it on your skin and if that turns
super red, super fast, you have some subcutaneous you know,
high amounts of you know, histamine inflammation. You know, we
don't know for sure un till we dive in a
little bit, but that's a pretty good indication. So by
looking at like the redness, the quality of their skin,
(12:14):
you know, does it look good, like good moisture, you know,
like those kinds of things are going to be really important.
The other things, you know, how are they aging? You know,
that stuff that we can look at from the skin,
but a lot of times it's going to show up
with ezema acmes. You can look at the patterns. Is
it more on the jaw, is it more on the back,
is it all over the place. I have a few
patients that come to mind. One of them she actually
sat in front of me and her legs were like
(12:34):
bleeding because her rashes and her exima was so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And she's like, I basically I try.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
To everything, and just a month into working on dietary
and digestive tracts, she's like, it's ninety eight percent better.
She's like, it hasn't bled, it hasn't done this and
so just by looking at okay, knowing that like, hey,
I'm not going to give you anything to do topically here,
I guess here's something if it really really hurts.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But if we keep doing that approach, you're going to
be in the same boat in a year.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And so that was one way that gut showed up
on this skin there one of my earliest patients in practice.
Kind of a not really crazy situation, but how it
showed up was it was just a little bit of
a red rash. Didn't hurt her, nothing like that. She
literally came in and said, hey, I've had this for
ten to fifteen years. It's literally cosmetic. I don't feel
the pain. I don't do anything. But like I go
to the swimming pool with my kids, I like to
(13:18):
wear a swimsuit and people notice it and it's kind
of embarrassing just personally, right, it would help my confidence
to have this gone. And I was like, sweet, let's
let's look at your gut, let's look at your diet.
It turns out she had an IgG food allergy, which
I know is that some people have controversy with those.
The labs that you use for testing is very imperative
I will put that out there, make sure you get
(13:38):
a very good quality that's researched. But long story, short
with that story is she had an IgG to broccoli. Well,
broccoli is a very healthy food Crucifer's vegetable for you know,
ninety five percent plus of the world. But in her situation,
her immune system was struggling with that at that given time.
And so that was one thing we had to cut out.
And now she had some stuff in her stool test.
(13:59):
But you know, just kind of a you know, it
probably never would have been nothing we could do topically
to make that rash go away until we looked at
the inside. And so those are kinds of ways that
they're going to show up now. Non skin symptoms bloating, constipated,
which constipation and skin. I really want to hit on
that for a second because a lot of people don't realize.
You know a lot of people are constipated and they
(14:20):
don't realize it. So one bowel minimum one to two
a day is what I like to see of good consistency.
And so I'll get patients like, oh, three times a
week's not good. I'm like, no, that's not that's fermentation.
That's not elimination, eliminating you know, pathogens, toxins, recycling, hormones,
I mean, stools a major detoxification pathway. So very common
(14:40):
to see constipation and skin concerns come together, and so
that's one way that you can get a pretty good
idea of, you know, your health as well as is
skin and then bowel movements.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm definitely excited to go deeper on that, and especially
because I feel like this really challenges the idea that
the skin is sort of like an isolated organ and
helps connect it to the rest of the body, which
also then makes it seem more logical that you're not
just going to treat the skin topically, which is definitely
how I used to think of it, especially when I
was a teenager who had acne, for instance, it was like,
what can I put on my skin that's going to
fix this? Versus I didn't think to look internally at
(15:13):
that age, of course, And I know many teenagers now
are on pretty harsh things, even including like acutane, which
can have some really serious side effects, which is an
internal thing that they take. But I'm curious, like, what
are some of the key signs that something might be
more than just skin deep or is it pretty much
indicative if there's skin issues, there's likely something always kind
of going on under the surface.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Also, yes, I would say if you have some degree
of a skin concern, there's something going on deeper down.
The skin is that kind of that alarm system, so
you can know something's going deep down now, Like you
had kind of mentioned when you were younger, there's a
time and place where the acne may be more hormonially driven.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Absolutely, and that's why looking at the body as a
whole is very imperative. But by working on your gut
in turn that should you know, it intuitively help your
skin if you get your stress response down. So anytime
you see an issue with the skin, you know, rashes, eczemas,
peeling of the skins, you know, redness, it's kind of
like you know, you get a bug bite or a cut,
(16:10):
it becomes red. You know, that's a really good indication
because you kind of mentioned that the skin is a
phenomenal thing to look at because it tells so much
internally and it's really, honestly, in my opinion, our biggest
organ because we have so much skin on our body
and it's exposed to so much. And it's really actually
our first barrier too, because on a daily basis, with
the world we live in with you know, with EMF exposure,
(16:32):
with you know, the VOCs that we're.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Exposed to, the diesel fuels, that.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
All this stuff that's just very chemically sound, you'll glycopate
round up. Our skin goes through a lot, and so
it's a really good barrier. And honestly that's why you know,
sometimes things that bypass that skin barrier can become you know,
immune system stressors as well, because you have that barrier.
Your nasal cavity has a barrier, your oral cavity has barriers,
so you have a lot of barriers before we even
(16:58):
get to your digestive track. And so you know, that
just shows that when when we have the amount of
you know, toxic load that we have, you know, eventually
that is going to start to affect the gut microbiome.
And then when the gut microbounds affected, the immune systems affected.
And so that's one thing too when it comes to
like viruses and pathogens and mold toxicities. You know, yes,
(17:18):
if you're living in a house and I touched the
wall right here and it falls down. Yeah, chances are
that molds pretty hard on the immune system, right, I mean,
we don't want to be exposed to high amounts of
toxic mold over long periods of time, but in the
long run too. I kind of like to look at
it from what I call a terrain in a germ theory. Right,
So a lot of people from the germ theory would
say that mold is making me severely sick.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Disagree with that necessarily because that is a fungal, that
is a toxin. But also what's the state of your terrain,
because some people are in a molding environment and not
as effective as others. Now there's you know, you we
could get down a rabbit hole of you know, Okay,
what's the methylation, the elimination pathways, all of that place
of factor too, you know, but the gut plays a
(18:02):
major role because if you already have yeast infections, then
you're exposed to that your immune systems suppressed. Then, yeah,
that I am worried about that mold exposure for you.
But if you have a healthy terrain, you focused on
your immune response, you have the nutrients you need, you
probably can handle that exposure.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
A little bit better.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now, that's not to discount the fact, like I said,
if you're exposed to bad, micotoxic and environment on a
day and day out basis, you're sleeping in it, you're
cooking in it, you're living in it. You know, Yes,
that's something we want to have a conversation about. But
I also don't want people to get so in tune
with a germ theory approach of like, you know that virus.
You know that flu virus is the reason I feel
(18:37):
the way that I do. And it's like, I mean, yeah,
the virus made you sick, but what does your terrain
look like? Why did it take over so bad? Do
your barriers? Are they in bad condition? Is your gut
lining in such a bad condition that it's just going
through your bloodstream that your immune system is having to
get beat up? I mean you had mentioned with your
autoimmune journey, which is phenomenal. I love hearing stories like
that because that is a prime example of you know,
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some people may never get the antivice to go away,
some will, like you, but if you do the right changes,
you're symptomatic can change because like autoimmune, for example, looking
at the gut and then like something like a mold
or environmental exposure is a major component, which you know
the diet is too, especially in something like a hashibodos.
But when I think of autoimmunity, some things that blow
(19:20):
my mind with it is I love to use the
example of Celiacs because if someone tells you they have
a Celiac disease, everybody knows you can't eat gluten. Okay,
So that's the one autoimmune condition that we've pinpointed a
trigger for. So that right there tells you by definition
that an autoimmune condition has a trigger. And so with
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that we should have kind of a light bulb moment
at that point understand that, Okay, it's the immune system's
affected and it's driving an autoimmunity. But that immune systems
not necessarily making a mistake there, it's responding to the
stressors that placed on it. So back to the Celiacs example,
we know that gluten's a stressor. So if you eat
gluten and you have CELIACX, is it your immune system
fault or is it your fault for eating gluten that
(20:02):
you know triggers that CELIAX. And so that's what I
dive into deep with an autoimmune side of things or
an immune system side of things. Regardless if you have
an autoimmune responsor or not. We want to find what's
triggering your immune system that we can make changes on
because overall speaking, our bodies can handle a lot, right,
we were meant to handle a lot of stress. But
eventually between physical, chemical, and emotional stress, which we call
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them the three t's here, thoughts, traumas, toxins, and that's
why chiropractic care, that's why exercise physical stuff is phenomenal.
But then we also need to look at the chemical
and the emotional side of things, and that's where if
we can encompass all of those, that's where we can
start see improvement, which it sounds like you were able
to do, which, like I said, I love hearing those
stories because not only does that drive hope into somebody's
(20:47):
health journey, which I think is a very very big
misconn conception. So I many times have conversations with patients
and it's as simple as, look, I need you to
believe that you can heal because there is an emotional components.
Then if you don't actually believe that you can heal
from this, you know, then we can do all we can,
we make it a little bit of improvement, but we
have to get you emotionally connected to this because there's
a major emotional stresser. And kind of back to I
(21:10):
was thinking of your analogy earlier. I usually use with
like the you know, getting to the root and what
was really going on. I love this analogy and I
use it with quite a few patients. So if you
have issues, I think of it as a gas tank.
So if you have a hole in the gas tank,
it's going to be drained. A lot of today's society
instead of figuring out why we have the hole and
what can we do to fix that, they just grab
the gas and keep filling the container and hope that
(21:31):
it never runs out. But if we fix that, you
know why that is, then theoretically we could fill it
up not have to constantly be filling it up. And
some of that has to do with the microwave society
we live in. We have way too much fast food
available to people. You know, they're ordering it, they're going
through the drive through, they're getting a brown paper bag,
they rip it open and they eat it. That is
one of the worst things we can do for our
(21:53):
gut health, for our digestive track, because one of the
major ways we start digestion is seeing it, smelling it,
and producing the those enzymes in our mouth down to
our stomach to produce our stomach acid. So a lot
of these people are going in not only eating the
rich foods, that's super process, but then they don't have
the proper stomach acid. They don't have this you know,
steps A, B, and C of digestion, so they're starting
with D and then you know, then our digestive tract
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not you know, side effect of the terrible food in
the first place, but then we're not ready to digest it,
and then it just becomes more stress, puts you in
a sympathetic fight or flight state when really rest and
digest pairasympathetics more of a digestive state. And so that's
just kind of some of the things that you know
that I see from that standpoint.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, you touched on so many good things, and I
love that you brought up germ theory versus terrain theory.
I feel like that deserves to be hopefully a whole
podcast on its own at some point if we can
circle back on that. But people who are not familiar
with that I just leave the question to consider of
that of all the people exposed to something like a
given quote unquote germ or virus, not every single person
will give sick and why is that? And like looking
(22:54):
deeper into that question because I was a fascinating rabbit
hole that I got to go down recently and it's
really really interesting, But like I said, that would end
up kind of hijacking the whole conversation. I also love
that you brought up the mindset and the emotional piece,
because I think this part is overlooked a lot, especially
in the clinical world, and at least in my experience,
was vital in that kind of my healing followed my
mental and emotional relation to it as well, in that
(23:17):
when I was saying I'm sick, my body's attacking itself,
that was what was happening, and that was my experience
that I kept reinforcing subtly even in my actions. And
then when I started saying even just I am healing
and every day I get better, I started noticing changes.
And then as my mindset shifted to I am healed,
this is no longer a thing, then my labs eventually
reflected that as well. And of course, I was doing
(23:39):
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Speaker 1 (27:37):
On that note too.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would also love to dig at you touched on
some of them, and I love your take on fast food,
not just being the food itself, but the way that
it's eaten and the removal from the creation of the food,
and that being problematic. What are some of the biggest
triggers that you see in the modern lifestyle and diet
as like potential triggers for skin issues.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
So some of the major things I usually tell people
if you don't have a food allergy, tester's categories of
foods that I push people to avoid, and I've actually
tweaked them a little bit more just based off of
some of my research and stuff I've looked into and
what I see on a daily basis with the clinical observations.
But the number one thing is the conventional dairy. If
you don't have a dairy allergy, I don't think something
(28:16):
like grass, the grass finished organic dairy is a bad option.
I do push people more so instead of any of
the liquid cheeses, do more of the hard cheeses. The
fermentation process of it has a little bit more support
for our digestive tracks. But then gluten, so wheat. The
big thing with the wheat is the enrichment the way
that we process it. A lot of people in America
notice that too. If they go over to like Europe,
(28:37):
they don't feel as bad when they eat that stuff.
And some of that has to do with how we
process it. And enrich it and so.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Kind of with ye I've added yeast.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeast is a very opportunistic effect to not only our
immune system but our gut, which kind of goes hand
in hand like we talked about beforehand. But when you
eat too much each you suppress your immune system. And
actually what I see on a lot of food allergy
tests is a brewers or a Baker's allergy. And so
if you have not only an allergy, or you have
maybe a yeast in becsi your gut or maybe but
(29:05):
you know, back to mold what we talked about, maybe
you have mold fungal in your body and you start
fueling that with that yeast, and that brings the immune
system down even more. Then we can't respond to things.
And then you know, those are the people that, like
you had just mentioned what the German train theories are
in a bad situation. You know. You know, we've had
a lot of you know, viruses be a big issue
lately in the area. And one thing that you know,
(29:27):
I talk to people about is like, what's the state
of your immune system. If you don't know what your
immune system's like, you don't know what your health like,
you're not doing things to promote your health, then you
maybe want to be scared of that. You may be
more in the germ theory, but if you're more in
the train theory, you're doing what your body needs. You know,
our bodies innate immune system and our bodies adaptive immune
system that we were born with know what to do with,
(29:48):
you know, certain viruses and pathogens and that kind of stuff.
So that would be number two to be gluten slash
yeast refine sugars. So yes, glucose is essential for life.
Everything breaks down to a sugar, though a lot of
people don't realize that. It just takes long longer. Right
if you eat a piece of grass bed grass fish steak,
that's going to take longer to break down to a
sugar than a potato, But it all ends up as
a simple starch carbohydrate eventually. The other things is soy.
(30:12):
Soy is a very modified food in America. And the
other thing kind of on the thyroid side of things.
You had mentioned your journey with hashimotos but with the
thyroid side of things, soy is going to slow down
that thyroid. So we don't want to be slowing the
thyroid down too much now, there is a situation where
you may have a hypberd thyroid, you know, that kind
of stuff, which is very much where you need to
(30:33):
be working with somebody. You need to understand the physiology
and the biol chemistry of it. But I do push
people to avoid soy, especially females as well, because it
has some degree of you know, like a phytoe estrogen
approach to it, so it can affect your estrogens a
little bit as well, so swimen more so, but I
push men too. And then honestly, the other thing that
I've started to add to that is which you know,
I'm being in the Midwest here, people probably think I'm crazy,
(30:55):
but I've added corn to that list because corn is
a very modified food as well. It's a very starchpased food.
There's a lot of additives the way that the farming
is there's a lot of glycophate stuff around added to it.
And the other thing too with you know, corn and
stuff is is it's very hard on the digestive track, right, There's.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
A reason why we eat corn. You see it in your.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Stool and some people laugh about that, and I'm like,
I think that just shows you you can't digest that adult.
So the whole point of eating, which this is kind
of getting back to, you know, history, and you know
our ancestors and whatnot, and history can tell you a
lot of things, not only in the health world, but
in everything, right, But one thing you noticed is our
ancestors didn't eat for pleasure. Our ancestors ate for nutrients.
(31:36):
They ate the entire animal.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
They eate it.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Down to the bone, they every organ, they everything that
they needed because food was not an emotional thing for them.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Food was a necessity for them.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Now with what we have at hand, how you can
go to McDonald's and get a meal for six dollars
and you know, and be told that, oh, it's a
hacky meal.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
We've added a piece of fruit to it, so it's healthy.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
No, not necessarily, you know, not even close to the
approach that we need to be with that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But what I'm getting out of that is.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Food has become very emotional, and so I want people
We talked about the emotional side of things of believing
you can heal, which is very key, but also we
need to understand the emotional decision when we're eating food
as well. Because if you think of birthday parties get
together as family gatherings, hanging out on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What is it always around?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Ninety percent of the time, it's around food. Hey, let's
meet up at this restaurant. Hey, let's do this, let's
make this food now. Yes, you could be making you know,
organic healthy options and having a good get together with
your friends. But but my point with that is we've
become very emotional food. If you have a stressful day,
what do you want. You don't want a nice organic
steak with an organic salad. You want chocolate. And there's
(32:40):
a reason you want that because that's putting you in
the fight or flight state. That's changing your cortisol and
changing your Shirkidian rhythm as well.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So I really push.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Field to avoid those avoided foods. And then another thing
that I'm starting to get into more, which I know
you recently had some people on the podcast talk about
mold toxicity, which is becoming a very big things. But
one thing that I've started to find in certain foods,
and not even if you have a proven mold issue,
but I'm finding that the way that citric acid is
(33:08):
derived in synthetic form is affecting people very negatively. And
why that is is citric acid. If you look into
the derivery how it's derived, it's based on corn to
some degree, but it's based on Aspergillus nigeria, which is
a mold, and so they're basically synthetically deriving citric acid
from a mold and putting it into drinking certain foods,
(33:29):
certain even electrolyte powders. And the level matters. Don't get
me wrong with that. The level matters. But when you're
putting that into your body, if you especially if you
have a you know, if you're more sensitive to mold
or viruses, or you know, urine systems not in a
great situation, you know that can really affect you as well.
So I've kind of added that list, and I use
this with some patients too. People heard the whole food diet.
(33:50):
I mean, there's a reason that you know, certain foods
that the earth can produce are better. A few other
kind of quick tips I like to give people on
the nutritional side of things, is the longer the list
of the ingredients, the better chance you should probably put
it back on the shelf. If you're having to open
a box, there's a chance you should put it back
on the shelf. And then kind of more restrictive, but
gets the point across. Two points to this is if
(34:11):
it has a label, chances are it may not be
the best option for you. So aka, your fruits, your vegetables,
your meat counter don't have labels on them usually. And
then the third thing, which this is just my opinion.
It very well could not have anything to do with it.
But if you notice a grocery store when you walk in,
what's on the outside, vegetables, fruits, meat, what's right in
(34:31):
the center of the store, all the processed boxes of
mac and cheese, candies, all of that kind of stuff.
That's just, in my opinion of marketing strategy, because when
you go to a store, you're through, you're around the
center of the store a lot more than you are
on the outside, and so they know that a it's
cheaper to process that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Two.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
A lot of those foods have msgs that stimulate our
glue to may and why you eat it. You're like, yes,
I feel amazing, that is exactly what my stress is
so much better, and then ten minutes later you're like,
oh man, I got diarye and my gut hurts. All
of that kind of stuff it's because they've added that
to the food, it's affecting our neurotransmitters.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But that's just honestly, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
There's no research that shows that's why grocery stores do
it that way, but I think I think it is
because every groth store I go into, the dead center
of it is never good healthy options for people, and
a lot of times the health market is way off
on the side too, which that's another week, could go
down a whole podcast to that. Like you had mentioned
with the germ theory and training theories, why does a
store need a help market.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Shouldn't all food.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That we're providing people be you know, to some degree
beneficial for our help, But instead we have a health
market or organic section, whatever you want to call it.
But yeah, that's just a whole other rabbit hole that
I always question when I'm in stores.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, and that's actually that's often, like you said, very
hard to find or obscure or like divide it up
into little sections that are like really hard difficult to find.
I know if there have been grocery stores I've been
to for years and finally found sections I didn't even
know we're there that had more organic options, But you're right,
could be a whole nother podcast. And I know we're
getting to the end of our time for this episode.
You guys stay tuned because we're to do another episode
(36:01):
that goes even deeper on this with the gut stress connection.
But before we put a pin in this one, I
want to just briefly touch on one more thing that
you said, which was about melanin and the ability of
the skin to handle sun exposure in a healthy way
and the connection to inflammation here. And the reason I
want to bring this up is a that anytime I
get to talk about the benefits of natural light and
the sun, I love.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
And b I have Irish German heritage. I used to
burn in five minutes growing up, and with all the
dietarian lifestyle changes and in the reversal of my autoimmunity,
I now do not sunburn even living at the beach,
and can handle sun exposure in normal, healthy amounts and
no problem. But more importantly, I used to be vitamin
D deficient all the time. Taking supplements did absolutely nothing
(36:44):
Now with getting sun exposure. My most recent test it
was eighty six naturally with no supplements, So I just
love to bring this up because I feel like it's
another like massively impactful and often overlooked area of skin health.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Absolutely, which eighty six is a great number. I usually
say seventy to eight. And then if your auto if
you autoimmune.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Or history of it, about eighty is what I like
to see.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
So that's phenomenal. But that's just a great attestament to
what I actually talk to a lot of people about.
If you burn easily, you know, you're a prime example
of this. It doesn't really matter what your ancestors are,
your heritage. If you burn easily, that's a sign that
you have digestive distress and or liver health. And the
reason I say that is a lot of vitamin D
is converted in the liver. But like you had mentioned,
you know, sometimes supplements don't raise that up, and a
(37:24):
lot of that has to do with Vitamin D is
a fat soluble vitamin, and so you AD, E and
K are your fat soluble vitamins, and so you have
to be able to break down a fat to get
the benefit of vitamin D. And so, like you had
kind of mentioned, by far the best source is natural
which on our next podcast, I'm going to talk, you know,
probably bring up circadian rhythm a lot, just with stress
(37:45):
and whatnot. But sunlight helps set that circadian rhythm. So
really good thing you can do is watch the sun
rise and watch it come down, and that helps with
setting the circadian rhythm. But being able to digest and
absorb a fat soluble vitamin is essential when it comes
to vitamin D. And so I've actually seen a lot
of patients just like you that one of the things
that they'll talk about. It's not a question I asked directly,
(38:05):
but they'll be like, hey, I noticed I was out
on the lake with my family, and usually I would
just be roasted, like have to where all this sunscreen
is still burning and I forgot to the sunscreen I
didn't burn.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Is that have anything to do with what we're doing?
And I'm like, yeah, absolutely, Your.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Gut is starting to use the vitamin D more efficiently
in your body. And you know, that's a prime example
of you know, going to the beach getting the natural sunlight.
Your body knows how to convert that to a usable form.
When you have a good healthy gut microbio, you have
limited stress on your body. You know, those kinds of things.
But if you have high amounts of stress, you know, yes,
you may become more vitamin D deficient. And I would
say that's one of the major things I see on
(38:40):
bloodwork is vitamin D levels thirty and below, which is
just impossible to heal when you have a vitamin D
level that low, because it's essential for so many different things,
and you know, the immune system, the gut, and the
skin are major things because you need good fat saluable
vitamins for skin heel. And so that's a prime example
why you burn when your digestive track is in a
bad situation. You can't eat, get your fast soble vitements
(39:01):
to a usable form. Your skin is lacking nutrients that
it needs on a day in a day out basis.
And so kind of back to what we mentioned early
in the podcast is when you look at somebody, you
can kind of tell by their skin, you know, are
they relatively healthy or not. And you can kind of
tell too, can they break a fat solivel down are
they deficient it might have indeed, which.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
A lot of people are because a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Don't take D you know, initiative or the effort to
you know, get to the point like where you're at.
But when you do, then you start to reach some
of the benefits of being able to go out in
the sun and understand that the sun's really not that
scary if you body can use it the way that
it's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, great explanation. I feel like there's definitely some follow
up conversations we can hopefully have one day, like on
the German Train theory on going deeper on light in
the skin connection. But I feel like this has been
such an enlightening episode. I've taken a lot of notes
in the show notes for you guys listening on the
go that's at wellness mama dot com, along with links
to doctor Tyler's work and his resources that you guys
can find and learn from as well. And do stay
(39:55):
tuned because we're going to get to do an even
more in depth episode after this one that will air
next Doctor Tyler, for this episode, thank you so much.
This has been a fascinating conversation and I'm so grateful
for your time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Absolutely, I appreciate you having me on. It's been a
great conversation. I'm excited for the next one for people
to hop on. But yet the gut plays a major role.
And if I could give anybody some advice, I would
start with your diet and then you know, doing good
nutrients things so you know al vera, applesider, vinegar, simple
things like that can make a big change of your
digestive health. And if you can get your digestive health
to improve, I think you can see improving your health overall.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Amazing and I'll of course put links to this. I
know you have a lot of resources available and people
can even work with you directly. Where can people find you?
And I'll make sure to link to it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, they can find me on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok.
We have a clinic page, but Facebook and Instagram our
biggest ones. At Wollnensway Coralville. We have that on both
Facebook Instagram. I have a doctor Tyler Cruz on Instagram
as well. They can find me there at the Lollnenswaycorolbowl
dot COM's also our clinic page, so you can find
me at contact me and be happy to chat with
you guys.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, awesome, amazing. Well, thank you for your time and
you guys stay tuned for another episode. If you're enjoying
these interviews, would you please take two minutes to leave
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really appreciate your time and thanks as always for listening.
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