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any order. Hello and welcome to the Lanna's Mama podcast.
I'm Katie from Walna's Mama dot com and this episode
goes really deep on the topic of the truth about
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hair loss and why typical fixes fall short. And I
feel like this is a mini masterclass from Christina McKay
about all of the multifaceted reasons for this, as well
as direct solutions that address root causes and not just
mask the symptoms. And she is the visionary behind Avabella,
which is a renowned beauty brand that has gained widespread
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recognition for its products and especially for its results. This
came from her own personal challenges with hair loss and
she took it upon herself to find a solution and
one that really really works well. As she will explain
in this episode. She also gives DIY ways to address
these things as well, and as well as like really
lifestyle and nutrition things that address the root causes. So
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I always learn a ton from Christina. Without any further weight,
let's jump in and learn. Christina, Welcome back, thanks for
being here again.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Hello, I'm so happy to be here. It's always just
a joy to chat with you. So honored to be
here again.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We likewise you are so fun to chat with that,
I always learned so much because of your passion and
your deep dives and your research in all that you do,
and to me it felt really important to have you
back on and get to dive even deeper into the
topic of the truth about hair loss and why a
lot of the things that are marketed don't always deliver
on their promises and fall short of expectations, and what
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really actually solves the problem because I know this is
a huge pain point for a lot of women. It
was certainly a huge pain point for me when I
still had thyroid stuff going on, and it was one
that took a long time for me to kind of
figure out the hard way how to start improving. And
then since then, thanks to largely to you, I have
had things that have helped tremendously. So to start broad,
can you kind of walk us through like how common
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is hair loss and like kind of what are the
multi causality reasons that someone might experience it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Absolutely so, for real quick For those who don't know me,
I'm Christina McKay and I'm pretty much a call myself
a hair loss expert and a women's health advocate, and
I just made it my life to share with women,
you know, the truth about hair loss and really proven
solutions that not only have worked for me, but I
have a community of over sixty thousand women who have
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kind of followed my guides and tips and have also
restored their hair. So just with that number alone, we
realize how widespread this is. And frankly, it's not really
talked about, right. You know, we might hear some murmurs
about postpartum hair loss that is something I did personally experience,
but a lot of women experience hair loss just randomly, right,
and we don't know why. The first time I did
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lose my hair, I had nothing to do with having
a baby. I was just shy my thirtieth birthday and
had a bald spot on the top of my head
like the size of a softball. It was enormous, and
I had a complete freak out. I spiraled into depression.
I really didn't what to do, and I had all
kinds of different feedback from dermatologists and doctors as to
what it could be. Is it female pattern baldness? Is
Alopecia's just a part of getting older. So I really
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felt hopeless and as I started kind of doing research
on my own and digging into finding answers myself because
I felt like mainstream medicine had failed me. I found
that so many women have this occurrence in their life
and just don't know what to do or where to
turn and are kind of pushed in the direction of
it's just a part of aging, and there's just super
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expensive treatments, get injections. You can use minis at all,
which is like roguain. You can do pills, you can
do hair implants. Right, It's kind of scary to navigate.
So I'm hoping today I can share more insights with women,
a to let you know you're not alone. This is
a widespread issue, and be there really are things you
can start doing today to really help reawaken your hair follicles,
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to stop the shedding, to regraw your hair, and frankly,
let's be honest with ourselves or you're restoring your confidence. Right.
Your hair is a big part of your identity. So
you know, if you you know, are shedding in the
shower and you're panicking every time you look at the
shower drain and going, oh my gosh, where's my hair going,
don't panic. We're going to fix that today. So when
we talk about the struggles Katie, like I mentioned everybody,
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a lot of women have this issue, and there's a
lot of different reasons it could be happening. So let's
just touch on those first. So hair loss really is
a way that your body is telling you that something's
deeper going on, right, There's something out of balance, And
this isn't just a cosmetic issue, right. Thinning hair can
actually be a warning sign that your body needs some
extra support. So there's four root causes and I'll go
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through those now. One is inflammation, two is hormonal shifts,
three is reduced scalp circulation, and four is toxic overload.
So I'm going to break those down because I know
that's really broad and you're probably like, what the heck
are you talking about, Christina. So inflammation can be caused
from a few things. Number one is stress. So this
was a huge one for me the first time I
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lost my hair that I had no idea could actually
be an impact on the reason my hair was falling out.
So stress hair loss by pushing your hair follicles into
something called the telligen or resting phase. So chronic stress
elevates your cortisol levels, which is called you know, your
stress hormone, and this disrupts your hair growth cycle because
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it actually causes inflammation around the follicles and then it
weakens the hair shaft. So essentially the stress ships more
hair into your shedding mode instead of growth mode. So
lots of stress not good for your hair. Your hair
truthfully will go into this part, this resting phase where
it just keeps falling out. Another one is poor sleep. Again,
raise your hand if you knew poor sleep was going
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to cause hair loss. Never knew it. Again, that was
another reason I was losing my hair the first time.
I was kind of climbing the corporate ladder, working really hard,
probably getting maybe five five hours of sleep a night,
which is not nearly enough now that I know that.
So poor sleep can cause hair loss by disrupting your
circadian rhythms. So that's what actually allows your hair follicles
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to cycle as you rest at night, and again this
will push more hairs into that shedding phase again. So
sleep deprivation increases corezol as well and reduces the growth
hormone that is essential for follicle repair. So the old
adage of beauty sleep is a real thing. You need
adequate sleep at least eight hours to allow not just
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you know, your mind and your eyes to rest and
your brain, but your physical body needs it as well,
especially your hair and then poor gut health. So gut
health can lead to hair loss because it makes it
harder for your body to absorb, you know, important nutrients,
and there are certain nutrients that are really important for
your hair health like biotin, iron and zinc, which your
hair needs to grow. And an unhealthy gut can also
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lead to inflammation in the body, which also disrupts your
hair growth cycle. So I know you're probably thinking, you know, how,
how do I you know what's going to give me
poor gut health. So there's a few causes. Number one
is a diet that is high in sugar, processed food,
or low in fiber. Another one is again that chronic
stress that actually can alter your gut and get them
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in an inflammatory state so they're not going to absorb
nutrients as well. If you've been on antibiotics that can
kill that really good gut health bacteria, it kills the
good in the bads. This will disrupt your gut health.
If you've had an infection, right like a viral infection,
bacterial infection, any of that kind of stuff can disrupt
your gut function. And then if you do have some
sort of digestive orders so like IBS, chrones, Celiac disease,
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those types of things can you know, disrupt your gut health.
The next one, so I mentioned inflammation, next one was
hormonal shifts. So less estrogen can cause your hair to
fall out. So typically we think about estrogen drops, We
think about midlife, right, we think about menopause. But let's
be honest, there's a lot of reasons your estrogen can drop,
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hostpart in being one of them, even chronic stress. So
when I lost my hair the first time from chronic stress,
lack of sleep, et cetera, I did have some blood
work done on my own and I had such low
estrogen levels that I was actually considered perimenopausal before the
age of thirty. So your estrogen can drop from a
variety of reasons. You don't have to be menopausal, and
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you don't have to be postpartum, like, There's so many
things that can impact your estrogen. So when you do
have an estrogen drop, you don't have the ability to
balance out. Something called DHT, which is a hormone made
from testosterone, and high DHT levels will shrink your hair follicles,
which causes thinning. At the same time, when stress again
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raises those cortisol levels, it inhibits your body to even
produce estrogen. So this makes your hair slow growing, brittle,
and very prone to falling out. So that's kind of
a little tidbit on hormonal shifts. Now I'm going to
go to the reduced scalp circulation. So, in summary, less
blood flow equals less nutrition for your hair follicles. So
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as you age, blood flow to the scalp it naturally declines,
which means hair follicles receive fewer nutrients and oxygen that's
really needed for growth. There's so much evidence that shows
that if you improve scalp circulation it can actually slow
down age related hair loss. And as we get further
into this discussion today, I'm actually going to share with
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you some fantastic scalp massage techniques that are really going
to help you increase that blood flow. And then the
last thing is toxic overloads. So think about like product
build up in your hair, So hair loss can also
be triggered by creating a stressful environment. For your hair follicles.
So we're talking toksins, like heavy metals, even like air pollutants.
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We're just not using high quality products, right, So things
that are non organic, not parb and free, you know,
really good quality ingredients. All of this stuff can just
really build up on your scalp and we'll really push
your hair into you know, kind of a freak out
mode where it gets dry, it's brittle, it starts to
fall out because it's just not able to breathe and
able to really do what it needs to do. So ultimately,
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I know that sounds all doom and gloom, but your
hair isn't dying. It's really crying for help. So all
of these things are as your hair, your hair's way
of trying to tell you, Hey, help help, I got
something going on. So that's all the things that can
cause hair loss. I know it's overwhelming, but I promise
you I have some hope for you here that was.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So comprehensive and even just based on what you already explained.
I can make some guesses as to possible answers for
my next question, but I feel like this is worth
a deep dive as well. So I see so many
products marketed for hair loss, including you mentioned like certain
pharmaceutical ones that I know come with some pretty hefty
potential side effects and that seem to me very scary.
But even just the over the counter things and all
these like really expensive fancy products that are marketed as
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like being these like miracle cures for hair loss. Based
on what you just explained, I'm thinking it doesn't actually
address those things. So why don't most kind of conventional
hair remedies work or why kind of what's the missing piece.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
With a lot of those? Sure and great question, because
I get this question more than you could possibly imagine.
So in short, most traditional solution fail and actually leave
your scalp worse than it was before a couple reasons,
So some of them again going back to that, really
pay attention to what exactly you're putting on your scalp.
It could be the most popular thing on TikTok, right,
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but look at the ingredients, right, So one huge one
is silicone. So a lot of products that make your
hair look shiny or feel soft and smooth, if there's
silicone in there, it is doing more harm than good silicone.
I'm sure you all know what silicone is. Is not natural,
It is not good for your hair. It will create
an artificial shine, but what it ends up doing is
it coats your hair and then your hair can't breathe,
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and then your hair ends up falling out and getting
actually getting brittle and clogging the poor So you're smothering
your scalp with silicones with some of these things, so
make sure you look for that. Another of them, some
of them actually strip natural oils as well, so again
make sure if it is some sort of cerumar and
oil that you're using that it's coming it's derived from
natural ingredients. Some of them will actually strip natural oils
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from your hair, so then again your hair isn't doing
what it needs to do and then leads to fallout.
Some of them, of course, not being very pure or
organic and simple, have endocrine disrupting chemicals, so that's really
just a fancy word for it's going to mess with
your hormones, and as we already talked about earlier, your
hormones have a huge impact on your hair. So again,
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really look for squeaky clean products, really pay attention to
the labels. And then lastly is you know some of
these things are super invasive and they're just a short
term fix. I have talked to thousands of women. I
know women that actually paid thousands of dollars for hair
implants to then just have that hair implant fail and
the hair just fell out. So if you're not fixing
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the root, cause you're just treating a symptom, you're not actually,
you know, finding a solution to what's going on in
your body. So I'm always very cautious when something is presented,
especially a medical procedure, as like, just do this and
it'll be fine. Right, It's you ually not the case,
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and as we continue learning through this, you're going to
understand that it is a multifaceted approach. Right. You can't
just slap something on your hair and think it's going
to be a magic cure. You can't just do one thing.
It's a comprehensive approach. Right. You need to look at
your lifestyle, you need to look at the products you're using.
You need to prioritize sleep, you need to prioritize distressing,
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you need to prioritize you know, eating better, eating a
diet rich in things that are good for your hair. Again,
I'm going to get into all this, but it's much
more complex, and I will say that once you understand
how to do these things, it becomes easier and b
you can always resort to them. Right. So, I've lost
my hair twice and I'm very open about that with
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my community. I lost it once before I turned thirty,
and then I had postpartum hair loss. And when I
lost it the second time, was I super bummed? Out?
Of course I was, but at least I now knew, like, hey,
hair loss is a journey. Women lose their hair on
and off throughout life. But now I understand how how
to fix it. Right, It's not a life sentence. Again,
you need to roll out that there's not like a
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true underlying medical condition, but if you do the right things,
your hair and your body can recover.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That makes sense to me, and I feel like that's true.
I learned more and more across the board and that
when we support the body, it is natural state is
to heal and thrive. And I've learned over the years
like symptoms or messengers, So it makes sense to me
with hair loss. The hair loss itself is not the problem.
It's telling you something that's going on, and when you
address the root cause, then you're able to resolve the
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hair loss as well, whereas like just those medical treatments
that just target the hair might be missing this huge piece.
And it also makes sense with the hormone side, because
I've heard like stress hormones and the hormones that lead
to fertility and healthy hair and all those things kind
of compete. And if your body has to choose between
survival hormones like cortisol and all the other ones, it's
good to choose your survival over your fertility or your hair.
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And so it makes sense like this kind of multi
factorial approach would be the best long term. And from
that's what you're saying, it sounds like there's a tremendous
amount of hope of can hair regrow? You've said it
has happened to you twice? But what does that process
look like? Because I've struggled with it with dirte issues,
I know how acute that can be and how much
it does, like consume so much of your mental energy
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and you feel a really lack of self confidence. So
can hair regrow? And if so, how what does that
journey look like?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yes? Absolutely so, Again I'm going to share things that
have worked for me in thousands of other women. Is
it going to work for you exactly? I certainly hope so,
and I assure you that if you make these changes
in your life, you will see a difference. So, in
my opinion, yes, you can regrow your hair and hair
follicles go dormant, but not dead. So let's dive into
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how you can fix it. So, if you are listening
and you want a jot notes, now's the time, all right,
So here's how we can naturally reawaken dormant hair follicles.
Number one is nutrition. So there is surmounting evidence that
certain vice diamins and minerals such as biotin, vitamin D, iron,
and zinc play vital roles in your follicle hair function
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as well as your keratin production. So I don't know
if some of you know this, but ninety five percent
of every single hair strand is made up of a
protein called keratin. So if your body's not producing kerotin
because it's lacking these vitamins that produce the keratin, you're
gonna have a huge issue. So all those things help
promote a healthy scalp and healthy hair follicles, which is
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essential for strong and healthy hair A quick note is
that your body can make its own vitamin D without supplementation.
When sunlight, specifically UVB rays touch your skin, it triggers
a process that turns cholesterol into vitamin D within your skin.
So of course you can supplement with vitamin D. But
if you know, you're like, can I just do some
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of this on my own? Absolutely, Like, get that early
morning sun. It's the best sun you can get in
the morning. It's not as strong, you're not going to burn,
and it's going to give you that vitamin D that
we need. I mean, so many of us spend hours
indoors now just because of our lifestyle today, right most
of us, not most of us, but a lot of
us work indoors. So we're just not getting as much
vitamin D as we used to. So that's really imperative.
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Now when it comes to nutrition, I'm actually going to
give you a list of foods that you can be
incorporating in your diet that are rich in the big
four I just mentioned, so biotin, vitamin D, iron, and zinc.
So for biotin, things you should really push to add
to your diet egg yolks, fatty fish like salmon, intuna, nuts,
including almonds and walnuts, legomes, which is just a fancy
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word for beans and whole grains. Now for the vitamin D,
definitely get that sun and in my opinion, also that
early morning sun on your skin and just hearing the
birds and nature, et cetera. It also helps you destress.
So it's kind of like a double edged I don't
say double edged sor because that it's negative, but it
serves two purposes for you. Food WI ser vitamin D.
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Though we have fatty fish again, that salmon in tuna, cod,
live oil, beef, liver, mushrooms, and egg yolks. Again. For iron,
we're going to be looking for that red meat, so
beef and lamb. You can also do some poultry, turkey
and chicken, organ meats and dark leafy green so think
spinach and kale and lugoomes again. And then for the zinc, oysters,
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I know you might not be an oyster person. I
love oysters. Oysters are a really good source of zinc.
A red meat again, poultry, dairy, and seeds including pumpkin
seeds and sunflower seeds. So if you want to ensure
that you're ingesting a diet rich in foods for your hair.
Those are things you need to think think about incorporating
as consistently as you can for stress management. That's a
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big one. That Another thing you can start doing to
help your hair. Absolutely start doing stress management, so look
into things like yoga, meditation, even a simple walk. All
these things help improve circulation in your body, supports hormonal balance,
and destresses you. And then the result is that your
hair follicles will enter what's called the anagen phase, which
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is the growing phase. So earlier I talked about the
exigen phase, the resting shedding phase. The anagen phase is
the growing phase. Another thing I like to do for
stress management is gratitude journaling. You know that might some
people might I have some people that are like, I
don't know, I'm not gonna sit there and write things
I'm thankful for. But truthfully, maybe the first time it
feels a little awkward. But when you sit down in
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a quiet place just for like ten to fifteen minutes
and just write down all the things that you're so
you know, thankful for and blessed for, you realize like, wow,
there's there's bigger problems in the world, right and maybe
what's you know got me down today. If I actually
countered it with all the good things going on in
my life, you're gonna feel better. Right, So gratitude drilling
is another great thing to do. Maybe you do it
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in that early morning sun, with that quiet time, do
it before bed. But that's another easy thing you can
do that really helps you just kind of pour out
your heart and destress and in the mental load at
least all right, Another thing you can do, tell bragrow
your hair is really good scalp care. So healthy hair
really starts, in my opinion, from within, but also it
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is due to a healthy scalp. So your scalp, if
you really think about it, it's you know, we're thinking
about a plant. It's the soil that your hair is
growing from, and if it's well nourished and balanced, it's
gonna produce stronger strands. So here are three steps to
do some proper scalp care. Number One, you want to
nurture your scalp with natural hair care products. I mentioned
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this early, so look for organic, natural parabin free. Number two,
we're gonna practice scalp massage to really boost that circulation
and bring more nutrients to your hair. Follicles. I know
I keep mentioning the scalp massage. I'm gonna tell it
to you in just a moment. But I'm gonna get
through the rest of these scalp care tips. And number
three is prioritize the use of a high quality hair
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serum to support both your scalp and your hair health.
So I get emails all the time people are like,
you know, I see all these brands of hair, How
I know which one do you use? So for years
I made my own hair serum, and Katie, I know
you have a hair serum recipe too that you've you've
shared with your followers. So I have one i'll just
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share here that I used for years. So again, jot
your notes. But this is one that I liked. So
it was two tablespoons of pumpkin seed oil, two tablespoons
of black cuman seed oil, ten drops of rosemary essential oil,
ten drops of peppermint essential oil, one teaspoon of vitamin
E oil, and then you kind of store it in
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a dark amber glass bottle to kind of prevent sunlight
from getting to it, and it allows it to just
sit and you know, be ready for use. I will
say some people do come to me and also say, well,
you know, I got to buy all these ingredients. That's
kind of expensive, you know, So I have another option
for you. I'll share with you in just a minute.
But the truth is with natural support and making these
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lifestyle changes that I just mentioned. You know, women, I
don't even care if in your fifty six years you
mean seventies, right. I have so many women and they're like,
oh my gosh, I made all these changes and I'm
seeing such tremendous change in my hair. Not even just
your hair, but just like your outlook on life. Right,
you feel lighter, you feel happier, and just giving your
body the support it needs is so important.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
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this stuff on the soapbox, the vitamin D one being
a big one, I will say like, I am probably
a little bit of an obscure case, but the sunlight recommendation,
I have a mutation on my VDR genes such that
I don't absorb vitamin D supplements. So for years I
was told by functional medicine doctors. I had low vitamin
D and I took vitamin D and nothing changed. And
once I addressed inflammation and got healthy sun exposure so
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never burning, but like the right amount for my skin.
My vitamin D on my last test was eighty six,
but I had a lot of trial and error in
that process, and I am so pro healthy sun exposure
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I think morning sunshine is one of the best free
things we can do for our health, and it's amazing
that it's also good for your hair. I think it's
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supports we know circadian rhythm and sleep and stress hormones
and so much more beyond that. Also, just love that
oysters are super food because they're one of my favorite
foods as well. I'm deeply grateful to you for sharing
the DIY recipe, and like you, I have made it
myself for a long time, and just like with my toothpaste,
I ended up eventually making the toothpaste as a product
because most people don't want to order a ton of
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ingredients and have to keep all these things in the pantry.
So I know you have worked really hard on a
really meticulously formulated serum, and that you're also like giving
us the best offer you've ever given. So can you
walk us through your serum and I'll make sure it's
linked as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Absolutely, So if you're not a diy gal, I do
have a hair serum that is actually even more robust
than the recipe I gave you. It's actually a blend
of twelve different essential oils designed to strengthen your roots
and encourage new growth. And it's called it's actually called
Essential Growth Hair Serum. So you know what I love
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about what I created is that the ingredients that I
use I meticulously researched. I talked to different trichologists, I
talked to different scientists. I'm like, hey, look, there's so
many serums out there. Here's what I've been doing on
my own that worked for me as a diy What
other things are out there that maybe I don't know
about right that we could incorporate. So study shows that
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the ingredients that are in here are actually more powerful
than minix it all. So for those who don't know
what minix it all is, it's the leading ingredient found
in roguain. In fact, rogain was really pushed on me
years ago, and it just wasn't something I wanted to
do because it truthly isn't natural. So the fact that
my serum is as effective is pretty awesome. So with
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just three to five drops, here's what it can do
for you. It's going to stimulate new, healthy hair growth.
It will protect your hair from falling out, it will
help thicken your hair at the root. It's going to
help heal a dry and damage scalp. An You'll really
enjoy shine your hair from the very first youth and
I just said you use the first use, and yes,
your hair will look youthful as well. But it's natural,
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true shine, right, So this isn't This does not have silicone,
this has none of that junk in it. It's extremely effective,
contains absolutely zero fillers, preservatives, or scalp damaging ingredients. So
you're probably wondering, well, why the heck why is it
so effective? And there's a couple reasons. It's effective because
it actually increases the circulation to the follicles. It's gonna
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strengthen the outer layer of your strands of hair. It's
gonna cleanse and moisturize your scalp. So it's gonna prevent
follicle inflammation, it's gonna clear up that bacteria build up
and will prevent fallout. It's gonna repair split ends, and
it's gonna replenish that hydration for true soft to the
touch hair. I don't know if it's worth it, Katie,
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or if people will just glaze over, but I do
have a quick rundown of all twelve ingredients and what
they do. Do you think that's helpful or do you
want to just jump to the scalp massage tech technique?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, let's see. Maybe could you go through it really briefly,
just like or at least highlight a few of them
and what makes them so special?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, So let's see. Rosemary oil is the
big ingredient that I had no idea was so effective.
So rosemary oil increases blood circulation, which reawakens and re
energizes your hair follicles, and it even rejuvenates nerves in
your scalp. So that's the really big ingredient that is
clinically shown to match the performance of minix at all.
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So there's rosemary oil in here, there's peppermint oil in here,
which helps slow down thinning. And fall out and also
stimulates new baby hair growth. Another one mct oil, So
this deeply moisturizes and cleanses your scalp of bacteria and
coats it to prevent it from damage. Castor oil is
a unique fatty acid, but it's a big carrier oil,
So this is going to help everything get really deep
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into your scalp. Olive oil. I am Italian. They know
what they're doing, so do the Greeks. With the olive oil,
it really helps penetrate the hair shaft and really gives
that moisture to the deepest level possible. Argon oil it's
really called liquid gold because it's full of vitamin E
which helps relaxes the hair for that really soft to
the touch feeling, and it reduces friz and really helps,
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you know, fix that damaged hair. I'm just caught out
a few, but there's twelve oils in there. You can
read about all twelve once I give you a link
to kind of read more and learn more about this product.
But it's extraordinarily effective and it's packed with twelve scientifically
proven ingredients to help your hair. So now I'm gonna
tell you how to use it, and we're gonna talk
about this really cool scalp massage. So basically it really
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depends on a how I guess bad your hair loss is.
If you're using this as preventative or like, oh my gosh,
I have hair loss right now. So if you're someone
who just wants to use this as more of a preventative,
I just put like three to five drops like right
onto my scalp, so kind of like drip it into
my hair, you know, if I have a trouble area,
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and then put like three to five drops in my
hands and rub it together, and I kind of start
up at the scalp. Think where your temples are. I
think all of us start losing our hair there. It's
like the widow's peak and the receding hairline. And really
massage it in. Really don't use your nails, use the
balls of your fingers and really press massage it in.
Then go back in through your scalp and massage it in,
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always using the balls of your fingers, moving in like
a circular motion and really rubbing it in so it penetrates.
And then the extra stuff you're just gonna kind of
like massage down through your hair and squeeze it through
and depending on your hair type. So I have I've
always had very fine hair. This isn't something I would
put on like before going out personally, because for me
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with fine hair, I feel like you kind of what's
the word I'm looking for. It could be heavy if
you have fine hair. But the way I like to
use it personally is, let's say I get out of
the shower, my hair is still damp. I might apply
a little bit do the scout massage and blow dry
my hair and style it. And then because of the
blow drying and the styling, it kind of evens out.
But if my hair is already styled, I wouldn't put
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it on yet. And if you want more of a
penetrative restorative like overnight treatment, that's my favorite. So I
wouldn't do this after a shower. I would do this
before hair's dry. I'm gonna What I love to do
is because it opens your pores. Get like a warm
damp rag, kind of lay it on your scalp. You're
gonna open up all your follicles and then and your pores.
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Then do this scalp massage that I just mentioned with
three to five drops. If you really have an area
that's troublesome. Go heavier in that area with the dropper,
really rub it in, and like your hair is gonna
truthfully feel greasy, because if you're doing a really heavy
treatment overnight, put a hair a cap on and sleep
with it in, right, because you're gonna let all these
incredible ingredients really soak in all night long and then
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wash in the morning. So really go heavy, massage it
deep into your scalp, rub it all through your hair.
You could double triple down that three to five drops
just to get a really good coating, and then rinse
it out in the morning. So this is something I
do because I at this point I don't have hair
loss issues, but I just like that treatment like once
a month. But if I have women that come to
me like, oh man, I have this spot that's you know,
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a widening part or a receiving hairline, I will recommend
that they do this, you know, twice a week, Like, hey,
do this overnight treatment twice a week, and then you know,
after your shower, put a little bit of your hair
before styling because it's a protective barrier for heat and
things like that. So it's kind of a multifaceted serum
that can be you know, something you use before styling
your hair after a shower, and something you also use
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as a deep penetrated treatment. And when you are doing
massage for that deep treatment, I tell people it might
be exhausting. Maybe have a spouse help you do this
if you're tired, but like a good five minutes, like
really massaging your scalp with the balls of your fingers
and those circulum motions, especially pushing into your trouble spots.
Five minutes. This is going to increase that blood flow,
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it's going to help the serum penetrate, and then leave
it on overnight. So that's what I recommend. This is
what is been extraordinarily effective for others, and I just
like to share because a couple testimonials. So one is
from one woman named Jane. So she said, as a
fifty seven year old, I'm shocked at the results. I
thought my hair would feel dry and brittle forever, and
now my hair is soft to the touch. That's incredible.
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I know a lot of older women that use these
products are just like, oh, I'm I'm in my fifties.
Now my hair's gonna be dry forever. And they're just
amazed by how much their hair restores. And then this
is from Carrie. She said, my widow's peak was getting
worse and worse. I was so embarrassed. I didn't know
how to hide it. And now I have new berry
baby hairs growing in and I'm thrilled. So a lot
of people that have that widow's peak, like within a
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i'd say within a month or two, they're seeing like
little tiny baby hairs kind of grow in that widow's
peak area. So it's very effective. So ultimately, what am
I hair to share with you is that again, your
body's not broken, your hair is not dead forever. It
just really needs support and we really got to approach
it with that holistic approach, right, So we have to
take care of the stress, We got to take care
of the nutrition. We really have to make sure we're
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cleaning up the products that we're using, reallycticing using good
products on your hair. That scout massage is imperative, and
again I highly recommend doing a serum wh whether it's
your own DIY using the ingredients I shared with you,
or this kind of done for you option. And so
what I have for Katie and your listeners today it's
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actually an offer to buy one, get one free, or
you can buy two get too free with free shipping,
because I think in the past I've done you know,
maybe like a thirty or forty percent discount with your community,
but this is basically fifty percent off, right or not?
Even is is it the right math? You're getting two
for the price of one or four for the price
of two, and then you get the free shipping if
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you go for the bigger option. In terms of you know,
how long do you have to try this out and
see if it works for you? Actually have one hundred
and eighty day guarantee on this, so six months. So obviously,
depending where you are in your hair lost journey, some
people to get full restoration it could take take up
to six months. So I really want you to give
it a go see if it really works for you.
Any at the six month back, if you're like, hey, Christine,
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I drive six months and it didn't work, like I
want to give you your money back. I highly doubt that
will be the case, but if it is, I'm more
than happy to give your money back because you know,
if it doesn't work, then I don't want you to
be stuck out of that cash, so that's my promise
to you.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Amazing Well, I took so many notes and those are
all in the show notes, as well as the link
in the special offer which you also mentioned, but for
gonna be listening on the go, I believe it was
everrabella dot com slash Mama, But of course all the
link and the details and everything will be in the
show notes, and I will say I've gotten to try
your hair serum and I loved how it felt. My
hair is more like yours, so I do stick to
using it at night mostly though one of my daughters
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has like super thick hair that just like absorbs oil,
so she's able to use it like straight anytime of
day and also loves to like put argne oil on
her end. So like a point, like you mentioned it,
it really depends on your hair type. But no matter
what your hair type, I feel like it's so beneficial
and I'm in the more just preventive hair lots of
magically with anything specific now, but I love how it
makes my hair feel. So all those notes and all
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those links are in the show notes. But Christina, I
know you have to go pick up one of your
kiddos it is always an absolute pleasure to get to
chat with you. I hope you get to do it
again in the future because I always learn so much
and I love how generous you are and sharing recipes
and education and that you have an all in one
solution for people as well.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Thank you so much, you are so welcome and it's
always an honor. And yes, I have a four year
oldaughter that I have picked up from preschool. But yes,
and I also did forget to mention that the oils
have two cents, peppermint and lavender, so when you do
make your purchase, you get both. You can try both
and see what you like best. But it is an
honor to serve your community, Katie. It's always a pleasure
to chat with you and share what I can to
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help others. And as Katie mentioned, it's EVERBELLA E V
E R B E L L A dot com forward
slash Mama m A m A. All right, Well, thank
you so much, and I hope you have a fantastic day. Katie.
It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Thank you, and thank you for listening, and I hope
you will join me again on the next episode at
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