May 14, 2025 • 52 mins
We chat with Kay Best and Donna Still about the energy of May and how it can spark change in life and business.
The discussion includes the number 5 in numerology, the Hierophant tarot card, and the giraffe as a spirit animal — each offering a different way to think about fresh perspectives, guidance and growth.
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Created and hosted by Sian Murphy with regular co-hosts Michele Yianni Attard, Kay Best, Rachael Bryant and occasionally Adelle Martin.
Find out how to be a guest or patron of the show at https://thewomeninbusinessradioshow.com
The discussion includes the number 5 in numerology, the Hierophant tarot card, and the giraffe as a spirit animal — each offering a different way to think about fresh perspectives, guidance and growth.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-women-in-business-radio-show--1228431/support.
Created and hosted by Sian Murphy with regular co-hosts Michele Yianni Attard, Kay Best, Rachael Bryant and occasionally Adelle Martin.
Find out how to be a guest or patron of the show at https://thewomeninbusinessradioshow.com
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Women in Business Radio Show with Sean Murphy,
connecting women in business around the globe.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, and welcome back into the Women in Business Radio Show.
And we are here now for our spiritual roundup as
we go from April and through into May. So in
the studio we have my co host. Sorry I'm laughing
because I keep calling them my ho host, So that
doesn't sound very nice as auld is actually my co
(00:35):
It's not really a term we use in this country. No,
So my co host k Best, who is the course
director for Cafe in the Calm. She is a spiritual counselor.
She works with people. I don't know. She's just does
so much. I can't I really can't tell you. Also
in the studio today we have joining us Donna Steel,
(00:57):
who is a little bit like hey, she does so
much is difficult to know where to start. But Donald,
how would how would you introduce yourself as to what
you do? Look? Look, you get them on here? Just
go on? You do? You can't? You don't know? Do
(01:18):
you know?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Do?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I just tell people I'm a transformation coach. I help
them to overcome the.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Bs that lives between their ears.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And and be themselves and live comfortably in their own skin,
basically doing what they love doing.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So this is this is the spiritual show. I am here,
believe it or not, you lucky people as the voice,
the sort of the stern one, keep us all grounded.
You know, it's a bit it's a bit scary. I'm
(02:01):
here to maintain the stricter business side of things. So
should we get going? Should we get going? Are you
going to? Are you going to get started? K off
your guard?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
See how quickly it comes back to me on right.
So for the end of April coming into May, we're
starting off with a little bit of numroogy. And what
the number five for the fifth month means? It's curiosity
(02:36):
in some ways. Every time I look at you and
want to laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's nice, isn't it. I'm not going to be offended
at all. But what exactly do you mean every time
you look at me?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
You know, I just wanted to laugh when I.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Because she's making it might well be because she down
the little side I tend to underline and Sean.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I've done a little squiggle dot on a piece of paper,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I do that when I'm on the phone. You know,
if I've got nothing else to do, I sit there scribbling.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
If you're sitting there and wondering, well, we never get
anything done? Okay, here we here we go. Here's a
real clue. Okay, right, ephants, Why am I not surprised?
Yes it okay, let's move away back elephant's bottoms and onto.
(03:32):
I think we were with the number five.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
We are we are And that means for may don't
make plans or set goals or targets that you may
not be able to get to try an experiment around
(03:56):
some of the things you may have thought about, not
wanting to do, being afraid to do. And some of
that does come down to a confidence thing, but it's
also one of those that people may just find it
really hard to do when they're you know, when they're
trying to work out what they want to do, don't
(04:16):
want to do, and stuff like that. It can be
really hard to sit there and decide what may or
may not make a difference to them their business or
or their family as well. I suppose in a way,
because it's all linked, isn't It all goes back to that.
It is a master of change. Though, So even though
(04:37):
it's a case of don't set goals in stone. It
is good for change to begin happening, but more so
working with that change almost like going towards the middle
of the year and for June. So it's getting things
all set up and ready in a sense to go.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So are you saying that what we're doing here is disrupting.
It could well be we're disrupting where we are, we're sparking.
This is not a time to sit down and set
new targets and goals. This is a time to disrupt
perhaps the targets and goals that we've set before, to
spark change, to look at some spontaneity, to look at
(05:23):
shifts and start experimenting and exploring different ways of being
before we start sort of clarifying that and maybe sort
of setting something a little bit more solid where we
may start doing that in June moving forward into the
new year. So just do something to spark change.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, it's a month of transformation that encourages the change
encourages adventure and freedom and pretty much doing the paperwork
and that to get to where you want to be
pretty much with that, and then see what are you
(06:04):
going to explore and what route are you going to
take with that?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you know what I was thinking? People are going
to think I'm mad, But I suddenly had a vision
really of just sort of standing up and doing just
sort of shaking things off. Do you know, having just
this is why this is why we need video, isn't it?
Because this would be a brilliant demonstration, you know, just
but just you know, I feel like just shaking stuff off.
(06:29):
So it could be you know when you do that,
when you when you shake your body, you very often
you'll disrupt energy or change energy. You you you get
rid of old stuff around you. It's a bit like
going and walking along by the sea, isn't it, where
you know, a bit of ozone sort of you know,
blow some of the cobwebs away. So are you saying
that's really what we need to be doing, blowing We're
blowing away some of the cobwebs, some of them where
(06:50):
we're stuck. What else can we bring in? What do
we need to get rid of and maybe bring something
a little bit more surprising into our lives in our businesses?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Look for your hidden qualities in a way, and it
is something that probably most of us don't even think
we have in a way. It's not something you just
sit there and think, oh, I've got this quality or
that have you.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's the stuff that other people notice.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, And that's where some of that comes from.
So it is where possible try and look at that.
Is it is an important month for personal freedom, for
independence and you know, looking for them, but again it's
also personal freedom and things like that. I think a
(07:41):
lot of people don't look at that or want to
give theirselves something like that because that could then potentially
upset someone else around them.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah. Well sometimes you just have to do that.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Don't you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, So I think if the way that I'm sort
of looking now is thinking, right, well, okay, it's difficult
to run a business without goals. You sort of you
need to have something you need to have, you need
to have something in there. But another way and some
of the it and it's a different terminology, and for
me it's a different thing. Is if you do need
to set some goals, perhaps in May, you don't set
(08:15):
something really rigid. For me, a goal you either get
you either get the ball in the net or you don't.
Is past fail. Maybe start looking at some targets, because
targets you know, the targets you can move. Yeah, they're
not so much. They're not as rigid as a goal,
so you can set it and go right, well, okay,
this is where I'd like to hit, but there's some
(08:37):
wiggle room here. So it just gives you that feeling
that Okay, this is where we're heading towards, but you know,
we can shift and then maybe can sort of consolidate
that later on in the year.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
But really well with the experimentations.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, rather than say I've got to do it by
this particular date or time. Yes, yeah, have a little.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Self flat as well.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, sometimes we get so rigid, like you were saying,
you know, like on I've got to do this, I've
got to do that. Sometimes we need to just step
back and just say, actually, it might that vision that
I had of it going specific ABC. We need to
be a bit more flexible and allow stuff to guide
(09:24):
us as well.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it is about identifying areas that
might be holding you back and then what might you
need to help push you forward with that as well,
And that includes asking are you on the right career path?
Are you doing to change?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is this the right business?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
You know, sometimes I see this. As we're sitting here talking,
I'm thinking about people who have the same meal every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. There. Yeah, there it is, and it's
but in some ways, you know, sometimes you know your
brain it's just full and it's quite you know that
there's an attraction between this is the food that we
need to have delivered. This is when we're going to
(10:07):
You don't have to think about it, you just do it.
But before you know where you are, you're either too fat,
too skinny, unhealthy or broad rigid. And sometimes you just
need to go. Tell you what, it's Friday, but we're
going to have fish and we're going to have no
you normally have fish or frase, it's Tuesday, but we're
(10:28):
going to have fish and we're not going to have that.
We're going to do something else. And I think it's
a little bit like that. Yes, we have grooves that
our business has been running in, but tell you what,
let's explore not having those grooves. Yeah, I'm not suggesting
anybody just throws everything out. I'm just suggesting that we
maybe have a bit of a shake off.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, it is a good month to embrace new opportunities
that come your way anyway, and if you even if
you feel initially uncertain, it's still worth looking into that
and perhaps even challenging yourself and see where you know
those those thoughts and feelings and that may come from,
(11:07):
or where they might even end up. It does encourage
you made to be much more adaptable and allow for
that growth and embrace any changes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
This could also be a good month if you have
a routine to how you do your planning, If you
have a planner that you have and you always work
to your planner. I'd love to have fun. I just
really well, I have got one. I have more. I
must have about three hundred, but none of them ever work,
(11:37):
not for me. But if you have a routine that
you go through that you plan, you know, it could
be that you have a board of directors. It could
be that it's just you. But if you sit and
you go through how you plan your business and how
you set your goals, your targets and all this sort
of thing, it might be that you need to find
a way of shaking that up as well so that
you are God I hate thinking outside the box as term,
(12:00):
but actually thinking outside the box that you look at
different techniques that you can use to do that. Try
some journaling prompts, you know. Get you and a business
channel or something to challenge each other on what you
do and why you do it, and who you do
it with and how much you charge, and what else
you can do and what you don't do, and just
look at, you know, mastermind. Just sort of break out
(12:22):
of your normal planning routine as well, because if you
carry on planning in the same way, you're going to
get pretty much the same result.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Masterminds are great.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, Yeah, It's a good time for taking on new
opportunities and learning new things, especially if you do want
to make some kind of change with what you not
even necessarily are going to do right now, but if
there's something else that you know or a different career
path you want, it may be time just to start
(12:51):
working towards that and learning about what you want to do,
even if you're not actually ready to start it at
that point. Just perhaps put that into practice and see
where that might go.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I quite like this because this is now for me.
Months May has now become sort of quite a free
month where I can just flap around a bit. There's
stuff I need yeah, No, for me, flapping is swimming.
I quite like it. So it's not flapping as in
running around and panicking. It's just you know, moving things
(13:21):
around a bit. Yeah, it doesn't mean i won't have
any targets because I've got lots of events and things
coming up. But actually, you know, it's it's the freedom
or it's almost like permission, I suppose, isn't it if
you needed it, But permission to just take a step back,
fling your arms up and go, Okay, what's the different
way that we can look at this?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah, challenge your own challenge your own beliefs for
you know, personal change and growth and stuff like that,
and perhaps interact more socially networking a little bit more.
That would be quite significant in May.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And maybe getting out and going and joining some different groups,
you know, exploring different networking, different communities. Not suggesting you
go and spend lots and lots of money doing these.
There's lots of places around where you don't have to
join anything, don't have to join a cult or anything
like that. I'm not mentioning any particular networking things. You know,
(14:17):
you can just go and just go and explore. Yeah,
you know, there's lots of You may find that the
council near you runs lots of or runs networking groups.
You can go along to the FSB in the UK,
Federation of Small Business run lots of free online and
offline networking events. Chambers of Commerce run lots of them.
Ladies who late run lots of free, free or very
(14:40):
informal and low cost you know, like a couple of
quid networking events. So just you know, see what else
is out there. Yeah, yeah, go and join in.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Go and have a look. There are loads of groups
out there, as you say, and networking doesn't have to
be about your particular business either. Yeah, I like you
say with the ladies U larte as such a varied
group of people that go to that, but they still
pick up ideas from each other, even when the businesses
(15:09):
can be so totally different.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Just get out and meet meet some different people. It
can all become a little bit too comfortable, can't it,
and say same same people, same ideas.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, it's definitely good to get out and explore. Latest
latte is brilliant if you're just starting out on whether
you're established business.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I think well I run one down on Sheppey and
I don't. I don't I generally, no, not generally, I don't.
Apart from this one group, I don't run any networks
for anybody else. I run everything I do is myself
and under my own banner. But I really like the
ethos behind it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, I used to belong to the long Field
one well I used to go to didn't belong to it?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Did you rent to that on a regular basis? With
Victorious Sheridan used to it.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
There's now one at Absolete. There is there's one Absolete
which is run by Michael Yarnie who's one of the
sponsors of the Women in Business Big Show, and she
runs it at the Blue Bean Cafe. I think it's
on the second Wednesday of every month between ten and twelve.
Really lovely as they all are. Lovely group go along
(16:22):
very informal to say, no entrance fee, nothing like that,
just by coffee.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
When I was first started coaching, the support that I
got from the other women in the group was amazing,
And we used to regularly run workshops together because we'd
all got different slightly different skill sets, so we would
run different workshops where we'd have like one day retreats
(16:48):
in different places.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It was really good fun.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'll tell you what. There's so much there's so much informal, affordable,
friendly business lipworking out there.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You just have to find it. You just have to find.
Not the more structured ones so as well. I think
they have their place for. You know, there's certain type
of person certain personality type, certain business type.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They do work better for. But I think I think
they work better for trades. I think, I think and
they just generally it's sort of horses for courses. But
I think if we're looking at may and actually just
doing something a little bit informal, you know, there's no
major commitments here. There's there's no there's no big decisions
(17:32):
or anything like that, just to get out and meet
some different people without it being a big thing. You know,
these these these sorts of groups are are just brilliant
for that. You know, there's no big decisions, is there.
You're just going along to have a cup of coffee.
Nobody's going to talk to you about joining, there's no
membership fees, you don't have to think about necessarily what
your businesses or going along with any patter. You can
(17:55):
just rock up and have a good time.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Actually, I've seen women turn up at those meetings where
they've have been through a major life transition and come
out of a very long corporate career and having done
you know nothing as an individual, and then sort of
with the support of the group, ended up like from
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a passion, developing a whole business and taking that on.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And I think that's why I like them, is that
you you may not know what you're doing, you may
not have a business. You just know that you don't
want to be doing what you are doing right now
or have been doing. And that's okay. Nobody's going to
look down on you. That's okay. Yeah, but we better
get on them because we've got some stuff to get
through here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Right So right.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
In May, some people might start feeling a little bit bored,
maybe tied down and a little bit overwhelmed by everything
and others around, maybe having some kind of a problem
in a sense, forming some kind of focus. So they
(19:03):
then might get easily distracted and things like that. So
in some ways it's worth knowing that to take a
foot back, because if you don't, you may get dragged
into that with them, and if you then start losing
focus as well, and that may be within your business,
but it may be outside or even in another group.
(19:26):
So sometimes it's just a little bit be a little
bit aware of that. But if you need help, us
for help, especially if you've lost focus. Other people can
see things quite often that you can't see yourself, especially
when it's right under your nose.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
To basically, beware of being dragged into other people's stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, in that sense. Yeah, because it can end
up damaging in a way.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Or damaging to you, and you can be moving forward
into June instead of going right. Well, okay, let's start
consolidating things and bringing it together. You could be moving
into June with other people's stuff, rubbish and trap.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
And some people like routine and some don't, do they
Some people are predictable and others aren't.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I don't know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
If you could have just seen what just happened in
this room, then.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Routine, go and wash your mouth. What is that routine? Routine?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'm sure I've heard of that, know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
But some do need that, don't they? I do to
a degree, I'm.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Sure they do. I'd love to have a routine.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I would. I'd really like to remember to do the routine.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yes, I'd love to have a routine. I'd like to
be no remember what it was or where I kept
it when I was supposed to do it. I would
like to have a routine. Actually, I just don't ever
see it happening.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, sometimes I think I might have an ADHD brain.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Really?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Who knew? Okay, let's move on, move on, move on.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Right, So if we move on into tarot an astrology.
For me, the fifth card in the Tara deck is
the hero funt. I don't know whether you know much
about him or not. A lot of people look at
that card as like a law man in a way,
even though there are other cards that would indicate that,
(21:40):
and as a messenger between different people. That can actually
mean tradition, routine, rituals, but spiritual guidance and support at
the same time, and maybe even being a role model
to people.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Like that.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Is is quite an important man in that sense. I
say man because the peachers always have him as a man.
But you know, these days, it may well be.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's a very long cloak on theough. Just you wouldn't
know which it could be.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Anybody could have a dress on under could I could
have anything on.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Nothing. He's like.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Just to take it there.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Oh, I suppose what accent as well, because if he's scotted,
you might not have anything on underneath there he might not.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And that's we could have a peak.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Could you imagine trying to peel the layers of the
card away to see what underneath?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Now we know what she does. Come along?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
See okay, see we are quite mad. Okay, right, So.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Structure and tradition, So what does what does this mean
for us? For somebody else? Now, so for somebody like me,
I have a problem with structure.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Do you know what I've written down? Routines and rituals.
So for me, a routine would I'd balk at the
idea of putting in to practice a routine and would
really struggle with it. Whereas a ritual is slightly different,
but it's the same thing in its essence.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You can kid yourself, can't you? Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, okay, because you know, like we go through lots
of things. Can be with you know, when you when
you get out of bed every morning, do you do
the same thing that's you know, that's a routine, isn't it?
When you go to the bathroom pick up your toothbrush,
do you know, like.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But it could also be a ritual. Yes, okay, m
And in a way, yes, you're right, they feel different.
They do feel So if I'm.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
There's reverence to a to a ritual, there is where
irreverence routine.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I think, yes, I think that, you know, sort of
applying this to business, I think potentially it could be
about becoming a little bit more spiritual, and that doesn't
acts got nothing to do with any higher being or
anything like that. It can just be bringing a different
(24:30):
sort of way of thinking and being into your business
and maybe thinking of things as ritual rather more than routine.
Could be a difficult thing to get through to staff,
depending on who they are. But I think for this,
for this one, actually just being aware that we need
(24:51):
to acknowledge some sort of spiritual type growth and ritual
in our business and our being. And I know that
sends really woo.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Woo, welcome to my world.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes it's but I think it's something that we that
we do. Anyway. I think people bring ritual and spirituality
into things without even realizing necessarily what they're doing. Reading
the Financial Times could be a ritual.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, I think it's the so to what keeps coming
into into my mind was the sacredness of life. So
it's like, there is is it really necessary for me
to do that thing? You know? Like so whatever that
routine is or ritual, you know, like, is it necessary
(25:41):
for me? Or can I allow someone else to do it?
If I was going to reply it to a business sense,
so can you know, so, can I delegate that role?
Can I delegate that job? Can someone else in my
business do it better for me? Better than me? Sorry,
rather than like trying to being the chief cook and
(26:01):
bottle washer, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Especially I had business that's.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That I hadn't thought of that, So that's another interesting angle. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah. The card also is about spiritual counseling and love
that just goes stronger, but and following a spiritual path
even and this may go well with people that do
work in organizations such as schools, that would work quite
(26:38):
well churches. It can it can be to do with
people in a religious organization in a sense. And if
you look at the cards on some decks, it very
much looks like not necessarily a priest, but it does
look like it could be something very religious.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like a bishopy type ye look.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also he helps find your path
or helps to lead you on your path. It can
suggest uncertainty when looking at card, but is in a
sense it's like looking for the deeper meaning and not
to what we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So it's a bit he's a pathfinder. Yeah, yeah, okay,
So it could be that it is by shaking stuff out,
by bringing in a different way of planning, by breaking
with some of the things that you're doing, you are
actually this is a you are allowing space for a
(27:36):
new path, even if you aren't setting it in concrete
maybe until later on in the year. You are allowing
that path to emerge.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, And it's a little bit about finding that comfort
as much as anything as well, and surrounded by the
people that believe in you, but you also believe in
or you want there and those that have got good
values and things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It could be where you're going to be. It could
be a month for changing the people around you could
go yeah, watch out.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Time to shake out all the tasks that you don't
have to do.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Given to someone else.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Is also about were learning as well, going forwards and
that The second card with May is the seven of pentacles.
This can be about change in direction rewards. It can
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indicate investment effort and refers to the end of financial
hardships often and material hardships, and shows that you're beginning
to and the corner and things are beginning to change.
As far as that goes, as long as you put
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the time and the effort in work wise especially.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
All fits together quite nicely, then, doesn't it. You know,
shaking off the old new path may be emerging and
bringing with it some of the financial rewards as well.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, it reaffirms your long term visions and demonstrates that
you're not really limited to goals, that you can change them,
which would go well with your targets and changing dates
and that, and you don't have to focus just on
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the short term of what's happening now that you can
perhaps go just a little bit further.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And another thing that's always useful to look at but
sometimes overlooked is, you know, if we're talking about perhaps
a change in fortune that sort of thing, what grant
funding is being offered locally, what grant funding is being
offered nationally? You know, wherever you are, is your local
chamber of commerce or something along those lines is your
local government you know is then? You know, are we
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entering a new funding round? What's opening up? Go and
have a look, and don't be afraid to apply. You know,
even if you don't think you're going to get something.
Make sure you read the application, make sure that you
are putting in basically the details that they need. And
if you don't get it, well, it's actually still quite
a useful exercise to have gone through it. We've examined
your business. Start to look at grant funding. There is
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a lot of funding around.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yeah, yeah, and I don't think many people probably don't
even know the half of it. I think advertised as such.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I think there are lots of very small micro businesses,
but I call them micro micro businesses who really don't
consider grant funding as an option for them. They don't
think it's applicable for them. They're too small. The one
man bands, there's also a man. I'm using that as
a generic term. I you know, they don't. It's not
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for them. I'll tell you what it actually is for you.
Just go and have a look. Not everything out there
is for you, no, but go and have a look.
You would be surprised how much is out there. Yeah,
So that's my advice for me. I was just shaking
it all up. Go and have a look at grant
funding as well.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yeah, it's not a bad idea, is it that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Every now and then, Yeah, not often, but every now
and then one sparks.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
As I say, not a lot of people know about
all of that, do they? And if they are on
the turn, especially with the business, you know, and there's
I know, there's a lot more than what a lot
of people realize because I was talking to someone not
so long ago that applied for a grant for equipment,
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but it wasn't what I issue, and they would get
a grant four because it wasn't something like a computer
or a place of work or something like that. So
I was actually really surprised. When you look into it.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You would be. And it all fits together because very
often when you look at grant applications and what they want,
they will want some sort of outcome, They will want
some sort of report. Something has to come out of it.
So if you're you know, if you're in a process,
if you're in a space at the moment where you're
reviewing your targets, you're reviewing your goals, perfect time to
actually build in some of the outcomes that some of
the grant funders might actually want to be seeing from you. Yeah,
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so right, then, what's next?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
The crystal? The crystal?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Hang, I'm looking. I'm sorry, I've got two bits of paper.
I'm looking. I'm looking at the I'm looking at giraffes.
Have I got it wrong? The good drafts is on
the next pat right, Sorry, I'll stop interrupted.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Sounds really mad now I'm telling them that we're looking
at giraffes.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I am I'll stop flapping pieces of paper and just
let you go.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Right. So the next the crystal for May is the emerald.
This is shows successful love and friendships. It represents loyalty
and integrity, helps keeps partnerships in balance. And again we're
talking work as well as home, so it obviously also
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includes different people or different levels of people. Really from
where you're going. It can show that certain people have
got clevoyant abilities. It doesn't obviously mean everybody can, but
it does say that so and it just aligns vibrations
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and mainly with the heart chacra. It aligns a lot
with that one. It helps bring balance and that into
your life as well. Some people just have it almost
like a crystal in their purse or pocket. You know.
Other people just have a piece of it at home.
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Apart from obviously you can also get the jewelry and
stuff like that if you want it.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
But you know what's really interesting is earlier on we
were talking about the snake. I was saying about the
snake and about the earrings. The earrings had like green
stones the current color of emeralds.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
As for the eyes for the snake.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Oh that's interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
It was fascinating anyway, So that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Was another conversation. Nobody said anything was going to make sense.
So looking at the emerald and what you've just said,
you're talking about visionaries and also people who may be clairvoyant.
If we look at clairvoyant as somebody who's clear voyant,
it's just somebody who is really quite tuned in to
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the actions of other people, to what's going on in
the world and around them, as opposed to picking up
anything strange or weird or supernatural. It doesn't have to
be about that. It's just that some people are a
little bit more aware, that's all. It is. Actually sort
of accepting that in your business there may be somebody
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that you have in your team who is like that,
who it could be quite easy to sort of poo
pooh and go oh, they're a bit mad. Don't worry,
it's just Gloria again spouting off. Well, maybe it's time
to actually listen to Gloria, because within there she may
sound a bit mad, but within there may actually be
the little the little bit of knowing that is absolutely
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right for the direction of the business. So don't always
dismiss every something that somebody says just because they may
seem a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Actually, I was going to say about the inner knowing,
so the clairvoyance that everyone has the ability to be
able to access their own in a knowing, and often
they don't trust it. And I think it's a really
good time of year to really sit with the and
(36:16):
listen to what's happening inside, because we often get cues
and get information from other people that immediately we will
not believe our own intuition. It's our intuition speaking.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It is we.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Don't always believe it, and we're like push it aside
because of whatever cultural condition.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But you hear people say I always knew there was something,
you know, there's something wrong with him. I knew we
shouldn't have taken him on this, that or the other.
And that's all it is. It's just that you've picked
up a queue or something that you can't nail down.
You can't apply any logic to it, you can't write
it down, you can't put it against an application form,
and so you go as must be my imagination, Yeah,
(37:04):
I'll let it go. One of the masterminding tools, one
of the sort of planning tools that I alwish you
really used to love and still do with a team,
is to just give permission. It doesn't to write anything down,
just brainstorm, and it doesn't matter how stupid it may sound.
Don't think it through, don't rationalize it however daft it sounds.
Just get it out on a piece of paper. Because
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very often out of that little sparker we'll call it
madness is the real genius, the real gem.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
So if there's a really good process, have you heard
of Edward Bono's six hats theory. It's a creative process
for masterminding. So where you would have there's six hats
of six different colors, and you start off and like
everyone can only think in that way. So a green
hat is only creative, and the black hat is only
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about what could go wrong, and then there's all these
others in between, which I can't remember what they all
stand for. But there's an actual process. But it's called
the six hats theory.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Brilliant. So masterminding, intuition, tap into the weird one, yeah, right, okay, regeneration,
right okay, onwards and upwards.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
So now I don't think we need to explain much
more about the emerald we.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
No, I think we've probably then we're done with that.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
So that then leads us to the spirit animal of May,
which is a giraffe. Now, I know you mentioned giraffe
a little while ago when you was writing something down,
and I can't remember what that was for. You said
something about the giraffe again.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't I don't know. I think the giraffe came
up earlier in the year.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
It's funny you should say the giraft because someone sent
me a short clip from the film Madagascar Out of
Africa too. I think it's called and there's a scene
in there where King Julian is giving instruction to a
giraffe that's sitting in a big hole. You've got to
watch the clip to understand it. But it's just funny
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that you have brought that up.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, we're weird like that giraffe.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, he symbolizes the importance of looking at things differently,
but also looking at adaptability and self acceptance. It promotes
personal growth and courage there. And I think before we've
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joked about well, he can look at things differently because
of its long neck, and everything else canly very different.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
But this all rather spokely, all fits together, doesn't it,
Because if we're saying that may it's the time for reflection,
shaking off old energy, bringing in new stuff, exploring what's possible.
And you know, a giraffe, you're right up there, You're
above the day to day distractions, and it's the perfect
it's a perfect place to actually gain perspective, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I've just get.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Before you said it.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm just getting a new perspective.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, we're geniuses, We're brilliant. Yeah, getting getting new new perspective.
You're getting new perspective seeing who we are, seeing who
others are, looking at what we might have missed. And
also I think, you know, looking at shaking off old limitations,
looking at what maybe limitations or we may have I
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don't think you realize what a limitation is.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Do you until you can only connect the dots looking
you can't do it look forward?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yes, but just exploring that. Yeah, yeah, it's sometimes it's
scary the way this all fits together, isn't it? Or
you can or you could say, you know, you make
it fit together, because this is just guidance, you know,
it's a I think if we're not careful in business
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and in our lives, we just do the same thing
every day, day in day out. We just have a
little bit of variety every now and then we go
to the theme or the water park, but mostly we
do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
And I said you didn't like routines. Yeah, routine, yeah,
a routine of the money.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
But very often in business we do do the same
things all the time because our our business cycle of
you know, tax and this and that and things that
we have to do almost force us into that. And
I like that sort of may and everything that's that
we are bringing out of this is about actually, let's
just stop doing that for a moment. Let's see what
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we can shake up. Can we do something different? And
the giraffe is giving us. By being up there, we're
getting a brand new perspective as well. We're looking at
things from a totally different angle. Because if you always look,
if you always sit around the same board table with
the same people, with the same set of with the
same agenda and last month's minutes that you go over endlessly,
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nothing's going to change, is it. It's always going to
be the same. So where are we going to maze?
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Also actually associated with fertility and creativity as well? Tane, Yeah, okay, yeah,
oh cool. That would bring that into it, wouldn't it
as well? Then? Yeah? And that's interesting as well, then,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, that's in our community magazine? Is she said? You
don't know? You don't read it? Do you? No? You
see she doesn't she does we had last week or something?
She doesn't, she doesn't read this stuff?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Is it the one we had last week?
Speaker 4 (42:44):
It's all about fertility riots and that's what the may
dance is about, isn't it around the main pole?
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
I didn't know that either. I didn't know that. That's
why they danced around the maypos.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's a phaic and the girls that around it.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
We always moving. So and do you want to talk.
We we don't need to talk about just mentioned this.
(43:28):
I'll just like squirt that into the conversation. Was talking
about yes, okay, So it is a month of fertility.
Now that we've moved away from Poles, we're going to
be here. Yeah, coming this up to you, dear, Just
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carry on.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
It's also a symbol of renown, hope. It represents fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Please please can we can we rain in here.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Rightibility of new beginning. So it's a connection with love.
So at least we know dancing around the main is
for love, not for just anything else. So yeah, and
it emphasizes growth and maturing and maturing and encourages us
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to focus and mainly on our personal development, but nurturing
ideas and projects and that as well.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
So we need to pull all of this together, don't we. So,
and I formed myself out now you've been writing lots
of notes and be able to maybe like to like
to put you know, you can bring some of this
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stuff together, I think today seeing as I've got you.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Here right, So essentially you've got to just trust yourself,
be open to new things, you know, like looking at
things differently, go on a day trip or do something different.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
That's a really good idea on it.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Just go on a day trip that you wouldn't normally
do so that you can have a whole new, different experience,
which is where the giraffe thing giraffe animal comes in,
because you've got a whole new different perspective on life
and that whole trusting your intuition while you're out as well.
(45:44):
You know, like when you're out of your work environment,
you you'll get different insights, especially if you're in a
completely you know, you're into something that's not what you
would normally do. So if you normal to go and
walk around castles, then go and do some snowboarding or
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something in a center that's you know, whether it's fake
snow of real snow, but you know whatever, it's like,
just do something different, that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
So we run Stepping Out. So Stepping Out is a
it's a program. It's an event for businesses, business people,
all shape sizes, growth wherever, and we run it once
a month. And the idea behind that is actually to
get out of where you normally are, to get out
of your It could be that you're working out your bedroom,
(46:38):
your kitchen, your office. It doesn't really matter, but to
get out of somewhere else to get out. But it
has where we run, it has a high ceiling, which
is really good for abstract thinking, to actually starting to
think differently than perhaps how you have done before. Think.
Another way of getting some different visions and viewpoints is
(47:03):
to go somewhere I said, by the sea, by water,
where you have a big expanse of water. So it
puts your it puts your brain into alpha. So it
just gets you thinking a little bit differently, you know.
So just go there. This is what I do. I
just go there with go with a pen and paper,
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nothing fancy, and just sit there and see what comes up.
And I think the important thing is to not have
any judgment.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
So by judgment, I mean, oh that's a stupid idea,
or I will Bill tried that last year and it
didn't work, or well that will never work, or that'll
cost too much money, or I wouldn't enjoy that. Whatever.
Just just write stuff down, yeah, and to sort of
shake things up a bit and get and get things coming,
(47:58):
just coming from a different angle. Because I think that's
just the hardest thing, isn't it is to get out
of the groove of where we are.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah, yeah, and it can pay dividends, massive dividends.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Just asking different questions, you know, what would happen if
we didn't do this, what would happen if we did
do this, what's going to happen if we continue running
this service, what won't happen if we continue running this service,
And just really sort of get some journaling prompts and
questions that sort of just spark that change, either with
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your team or with yourself, to almost sort of knock
things off the rails.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, you definitely need to do that from time to time.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Because it can it can just be so so difficult,
I think sort of getting and doing something. So I
think another thing is looking at what's happened before, you know,
what's happened in the past, what's gone wrong before, what's
gone wrong before, and maybe looking at why that happened,
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and just sort of challenging yourself.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
I think that's a really good point, is they're looking
at what went right. A lot of business owners don't
look at what went right the more at the what
went wrong, and they never look at what went right.
So absolutely right, do more of what went right rather
than you know, like tird's always a third. I don't
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know how much polish you put on it, it's still
going to be the same. And it means why focus there?
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah on that? Yes, I think there's a book by
a guy I can't remember his name. He's written two books,
and one of them I think is called The Gap
and the Gain, where we always look at what was
wrong instead of looking at what was right. Another thing
I really like doing, and this is by the same guy.
I'm not being very helpful because I'm actually telling you
who he is. I can't remember, but it's called ten
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times is easier than two times? And this is this
is a brilliant book and a brilliant concept for actually
shaking things up in your business, which is if you
look at so how many clients you have now and
go right, well, okay, how could I have twice as
many clients? What you're going to come up with is
ideas like I could do a bit more of SEO,
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or I could do a bit more networking, I could
do a bit more of this or that, And effectively,
what you're going to do is double what you're already doing.
Now you just have to say you do more work
to get twice as many clients, but you need more
work to do that. Another way of doing it is going,
what do I need to do to get ten times
as many clients as I have now it and doing
(50:38):
a little bit more SEO or a little bit more
networking is not going to bring you ten times more clients.
What is going to bring you ten times more clients
is maybe looking at different alliances that you can form
with people, where you can bring in clients in different ways,
you know, offloading some of your work, but you're going
to come up with something that is totally different to
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what you're doing now. Yeah, that I think is a
way to go.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
The author of that book, God, Dan Sullivan, thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
I think he co authored it. It's an excellent, excellent book.
And I think he also wrote The Gap and the Game.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
That is the one I'm referring to that.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Okay, Dan Sullivan is the guy that wrote ten times
is easier than two times. Just get that and start
sort of brainstorming how you could multiply your business by
ten You will come up with some very very different
answers than if you go how can I grow my
business or how can I get twice as many clients.
So if in this May you're looking to shake off
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old routines, shake off old energy, shake off what you've
been doing before, and get yourself started on a different path,
maybe with different results, I suggest that's a good place
to start.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Great to start, good month.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Right, Thank you so much for listening, folks. I hope
you have a stunning mate. I hope your businesses are
roaring forwards, that you're enjoying yourself, that you are looking
after yourself as well. So I'm going to say thank
you so much to my co host Ka who also
puts all of this together, and also thank you for
Donna still for joining us and chipping in. And we
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will see you all again with spiritual insights next month.
This time next month, so take care everybody. Bye.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Tune in next week to the Women in Business radio
show for more stories, ideas and inspiration to help you
grow your business.
Welcome to the Women in Business Radio Show with Sean Murphy,
connecting women in business around the globe.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, and welcome back into the Women in Business Radio Show.
And we are here now for our spiritual roundup as
we go from April and through into May. So in
the studio we have my co host. Sorry I'm laughing
because I keep calling them my ho host, So that
doesn't sound very nice as auld is actually my co
(00:35):
It's not really a term we use in this country. No,
So my co host k Best, who is the course
director for Cafe in the Calm. She is a spiritual counselor.
She works with people. I don't know. She's just does
so much. I can't I really can't tell you. Also
in the studio today we have joining us Donna Steel,
(00:57):
who is a little bit like hey, she does so
much is difficult to know where to start. But Donald,
how would how would you introduce yourself as to what
you do? Look? Look, you get them on here? Just
go on? You do? You can't? You don't know? Do
(01:18):
you know?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Do?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I just tell people I'm a transformation coach. I help
them to overcome the.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Bs that lives between their ears.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And and be themselves and live comfortably in their own skin,
basically doing what they love doing.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So this is this is the spiritual show. I am here,
believe it or not, you lucky people as the voice,
the sort of the stern one, keep us all grounded.
You know, it's a bit it's a bit scary. I'm
(02:01):
here to maintain the stricter business side of things. So
should we get going? Should we get going? Are you
going to? Are you going to get started? K off
your guard?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
See how quickly it comes back to me on right.
So for the end of April coming into May, we're
starting off with a little bit of numroogy. And what
the number five for the fifth month means? It's curiosity
(02:36):
in some ways. Every time I look at you and
want to laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's nice, isn't it. I'm not going to be offended
at all. But what exactly do you mean every time
you look at me?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
You know, I just wanted to laugh when I.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Because she's making it might well be because she down
the little side I tend to underline and Sean.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I've done a little squiggle dot on a piece of paper,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I do that when I'm on the phone. You know,
if I've got nothing else to do, I sit there scribbling.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
If you're sitting there and wondering, well, we never get
anything done? Okay, here we here we go. Here's a
real clue. Okay, right, ephants, Why am I not surprised?
Yes it okay, let's move away back elephant's bottoms and onto.
(03:32):
I think we were with the number five.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
We are we are And that means for may don't
make plans or set goals or targets that you may
not be able to get to try an experiment around
(03:56):
some of the things you may have thought about, not
wanting to do, being afraid to do. And some of
that does come down to a confidence thing, but it's
also one of those that people may just find it
really hard to do when they're you know, when they're
trying to work out what they want to do, don't
(04:16):
want to do, and stuff like that. It can be
really hard to sit there and decide what may or
may not make a difference to them their business or
or their family as well. I suppose in a way,
because it's all linked, isn't It all goes back to that.
It is a master of change. Though, So even though
(04:37):
it's a case of don't set goals in stone. It
is good for change to begin happening, but more so
working with that change almost like going towards the middle
of the year and for June. So it's getting things
all set up and ready in a sense to go.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So are you saying that what we're doing here is disrupting.
It could well be we're disrupting where we are, we're sparking.
This is not a time to sit down and set
new targets and goals. This is a time to disrupt
perhaps the targets and goals that we've set before, to
spark change, to look at some spontaneity, to look at
(05:23):
shifts and start experimenting and exploring different ways of being
before we start sort of clarifying that and maybe sort
of setting something a little bit more solid where we
may start doing that in June moving forward into the
new year. So just do something to spark change.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, it's a month of transformation that encourages the change
encourages adventure and freedom and pretty much doing the paperwork
and that to get to where you want to be
pretty much with that, and then see what are you
(06:04):
going to explore and what route are you going to
take with that?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you know what I was thinking? People are going
to think I'm mad, But I suddenly had a vision
really of just sort of standing up and doing just
sort of shaking things off. Do you know, having just
this is why this is why we need video, isn't it?
Because this would be a brilliant demonstration, you know, just
but just you know, I feel like just shaking stuff off.
(06:29):
So it could be you know when you do that,
when you when you shake your body, you very often
you'll disrupt energy or change energy. You you you get
rid of old stuff around you. It's a bit like
going and walking along by the sea, isn't it, where
you know, a bit of ozone sort of you know,
blow some of the cobwebs away. So are you saying
that's really what we need to be doing, blowing We're
blowing away some of the cobwebs, some of them where
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we're stuck. What else can we bring in? What do
we need to get rid of and maybe bring something
a little bit more surprising into our lives in our businesses?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Look for your hidden qualities in a way, and it
is something that probably most of us don't even think
we have in a way. It's not something you just
sit there and think, oh, I've got this quality or
that have you.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's the stuff that other people notice.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, And that's where some of that comes from.
So it is where possible try and look at that.
Is it is an important month for personal freedom, for
independence and you know, looking for them, but again it's
also personal freedom and things like that. I think a
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lot of people don't look at that or want to
give theirselves something like that because that could then potentially
upset someone else around them.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah. Well sometimes you just have to do that.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Don't you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, So I think if the way that I'm sort
of looking now is thinking, right, well, okay, it's difficult
to run a business without goals. You sort of you
need to have something you need to have, you need
to have something in there. But another way and some
of the it and it's a different terminology, and for
me it's a different thing. Is if you do need
to set some goals, perhaps in May, you don't set
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something really rigid. For me, a goal you either get
you either get the ball in the net or you don't.
Is past fail. Maybe start looking at some targets, because
targets you know, the targets you can move. Yeah, they're
not so much. They're not as rigid as a goal,
so you can set it and go right, well, okay,
this is where I'd like to hit, but there's some
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wiggle room here. So it just gives you that feeling
that Okay, this is where we're heading towards, but you know,
we can shift and then maybe can sort of consolidate
that later on in the year.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
But really well with the experimentations.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, rather than say I've got to do it by
this particular date or time. Yes, yeah, have a little.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Self flat as well.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, sometimes we get so rigid, like you were saying,
you know, like on I've got to do this, I've
got to do that. Sometimes we need to just step
back and just say, actually, it might that vision that
I had of it going specific ABC. We need to
be a bit more flexible and allow stuff to guide
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us as well.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it is about identifying areas that
might be holding you back and then what might you
need to help push you forward with that as well,
And that includes asking are you on the right career path?
Are you doing to change?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is this the right business?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
You know, sometimes I see this. As we're sitting here talking,
I'm thinking about people who have the same meal every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. There. Yeah, there it is, and it's
but in some ways, you know, sometimes you know your
brain it's just full and it's quite you know that
there's an attraction between this is the food that we
need to have delivered. This is when we're going to
(10:07):
You don't have to think about it, you just do it.
But before you know where you are, you're either too fat,
too skinny, unhealthy or broad rigid. And sometimes you just
need to go. Tell you what, it's Friday, but we're
going to have fish and we're going to have no
you normally have fish or frase, it's Tuesday, but we're
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going to have fish and we're not going to have that.
We're going to do something else. And I think it's
a little bit like that. Yes, we have grooves that
our business has been running in, but tell you what,
let's explore not having those grooves. Yeah, I'm not suggesting
anybody just throws everything out. I'm just suggesting that we
maybe have a bit of a shake off.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, it is a good month to embrace new opportunities
that come your way anyway, and if you even if
you feel initially uncertain, it's still worth looking into that
and perhaps even challenging yourself and see where you know
those those thoughts and feelings and that may come from,
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or where they might even end up. It does encourage
you made to be much more adaptable and allow for
that growth and embrace any changes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
This could also be a good month if you have
a routine to how you do your planning, If you
have a planner that you have and you always work
to your planner. I'd love to have fun. I just
really well, I have got one. I have more. I
must have about three hundred, but none of them ever work,
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not for me. But if you have a routine that
you go through that you plan, you know, it could
be that you have a board of directors. It could
be that it's just you. But if you sit and
you go through how you plan your business and how
you set your goals, your targets and all this sort
of thing, it might be that you need to find
a way of shaking that up as well so that
you are God I hate thinking outside the box as term,
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but actually thinking outside the box that you look at
different techniques that you can use to do that. Try
some journaling prompts, you know. Get you and a business
channel or something to challenge each other on what you
do and why you do it, and who you do
it with and how much you charge, and what else
you can do and what you don't do, and just
look at, you know, mastermind. Just sort of break out
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of your normal planning routine as well, because if you
carry on planning in the same way, you're going to
get pretty much the same result.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Masterminds are great.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, Yeah, It's a good time for taking on new
opportunities and learning new things, especially if you do want
to make some kind of change with what you not
even necessarily are going to do right now, but if
there's something else that you know or a different career
path you want, it may be time just to start
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working towards that and learning about what you want to do,
even if you're not actually ready to start it at
that point. Just perhaps put that into practice and see
where that might go.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I quite like this because this is now for me.
Months May has now become sort of quite a free
month where I can just flap around a bit. There's
stuff I need yeah, No, for me, flapping is swimming.
I quite like it. So it's not flapping as in
running around and panicking. It's just you know, moving things
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around a bit. Yeah, it doesn't mean i won't have
any targets because I've got lots of events and things
coming up. But actually, you know, it's it's the freedom
or it's almost like permission, I suppose, isn't it if
you needed it, But permission to just take a step back,
fling your arms up and go, Okay, what's the different
way that we can look at this?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah, challenge your own challenge your own beliefs for
you know, personal change and growth and stuff like that,
and perhaps interact more socially networking a little bit more.
That would be quite significant in May.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And maybe getting out and going and joining some different groups,
you know, exploring different networking, different communities. Not suggesting you
go and spend lots and lots of money doing these.
There's lots of places around where you don't have to
join anything, don't have to join a cult or anything
like that. I'm not mentioning any particular networking things. You know,
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you can just go and just go and explore. Yeah,
you know, there's lots of You may find that the
council near you runs lots of or runs networking groups.
You can go along to the FSB in the UK,
Federation of Small Business run lots of free online and
offline networking events. Chambers of Commerce run lots of them.
Ladies who late run lots of free, free or very
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informal and low cost you know, like a couple of
quid networking events. So just you know, see what else
is out there. Yeah, yeah, go and join in.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Go and have a look. There are loads of groups
out there, as you say, and networking doesn't have to
be about your particular business either. Yeah, I like you
say with the ladies U larte as such a varied
group of people that go to that, but they still
pick up ideas from each other, even when the businesses
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can be so totally different.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Just get out and meet meet some different people. It
can all become a little bit too comfortable, can't it,
and say same same people, same ideas.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, it's definitely good to get out and explore. Latest
latte is brilliant if you're just starting out on whether
you're established business.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I think well I run one down on Sheppey and
I don't. I don't I generally, no, not generally, I don't.
Apart from this one group, I don't run any networks
for anybody else. I run everything I do is myself
and under my own banner. But I really like the
ethos behind it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, I used to belong to the long Field
one well I used to go to didn't belong to it?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Did you rent to that on a regular basis? With
Victorious Sheridan used to it.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
There's now one at Absolete. There is there's one Absolete
which is run by Michael Yarnie who's one of the
sponsors of the Women in Business Big Show, and she
runs it at the Blue Bean Cafe. I think it's
on the second Wednesday of every month between ten and twelve.
Really lovely as they all are. Lovely group go along
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very informal to say, no entrance fee, nothing like that,
just by coffee.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
When I was first started coaching, the support that I
got from the other women in the group was amazing,
And we used to regularly run workshops together because we'd
all got different slightly different skill sets, so we would
run different workshops where we'd have like one day retreats
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in different places.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It was really good fun.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'll tell you what. There's so much there's so much informal, affordable,
friendly business lipworking out there.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You just have to find it. You just have to find.
Not the more structured ones so as well. I think
they have their place for. You know, there's certain type
of person certain personality type, certain business type.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They do work better for. But I think I think
they work better for trades. I think, I think and
they just generally it's sort of horses for courses. But
I think if we're looking at may and actually just
doing something a little bit informal, you know, there's no
major commitments here. There's there's no there's no big decisions
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or anything like that, just to get out and meet
some different people without it being a big thing. You know,
these these these sorts of groups are are just brilliant
for that. You know, there's no big decisions, is there.
You're just going along to have a cup of coffee.
Nobody's going to talk to you about joining, there's no
membership fees, you don't have to think about necessarily what
your businesses or going along with any patter. You can
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just rock up and have a good time.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Actually, I've seen women turn up at those meetings where
they've have been through a major life transition and come
out of a very long corporate career and having done
you know nothing as an individual, and then sort of
with the support of the group, ended up like from
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a passion, developing a whole business and taking that on.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And I think that's why I like them, is that
you you may not know what you're doing, you may
not have a business. You just know that you don't
want to be doing what you are doing right now
or have been doing. And that's okay. Nobody's going to
look down on you. That's okay. Yeah, but we better
get on them because we've got some stuff to get
through here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Right So right.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
In May, some people might start feeling a little bit bored,
maybe tied down and a little bit overwhelmed by everything
and others around, maybe having some kind of a problem
in a sense, forming some kind of focus. So they
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then might get easily distracted and things like that. So
in some ways it's worth knowing that to take a
foot back, because if you don't, you may get dragged
into that with them, and if you then start losing
focus as well, and that may be within your business,
but it may be outside or even in another group.
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So sometimes it's just a little bit be a little
bit aware of that. But if you need help, us
for help, especially if you've lost focus. Other people can
see things quite often that you can't see yourself, especially
when it's right under your nose.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
To basically, beware of being dragged into other people's stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, in that sense. Yeah, because it can end
up damaging in a way.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Or damaging to you, and you can be moving forward
into June instead of going right. Well, okay, let's start
consolidating things and bringing it together. You could be moving
into June with other people's stuff, rubbish and trap.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
And some people like routine and some don't, do they
Some people are predictable and others aren't.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I don't know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
If you could have just seen what just happened in
this room, then.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Routine, go and wash your mouth. What is that routine? Routine?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'm sure I've heard of that, know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
But some do need that, don't they? I do to
a degree, I'm.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Sure they do. I'd love to have a routine.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I would. I'd really like to remember to do the routine.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yes, I'd love to have a routine. I'd like to
be no remember what it was or where I kept
it when I was supposed to do it. I would
like to have a routine. Actually, I just don't ever
see it happening.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, sometimes I think I might have an ADHD brain.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Really?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Who knew? Okay, let's move on, move on, move on.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Right, So if we move on into tarot an astrology.
For me, the fifth card in the Tara deck is
the hero funt. I don't know whether you know much
about him or not. A lot of people look at
that card as like a law man in a way,
even though there are other cards that would indicate that,
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and as a messenger between different people. That can actually
mean tradition, routine, rituals, but spiritual guidance and support at
the same time, and maybe even being a role model
to people.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Like that.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Is is quite an important man in that sense. I
say man because the peachers always have him as a man.
But you know, these days, it may well be.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's a very long cloak on theough. Just you wouldn't
know which it could be.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Anybody could have a dress on under could I could
have anything on.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Nothing. He's like.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Just to take it there.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Oh, I suppose what accent as well, because if he's scotted,
you might not have anything on underneath there he might not.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And that's we could have a peak.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Could you imagine trying to peel the layers of the
card away to see what underneath?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Now we know what she does. Come along?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
See okay, see we are quite mad. Okay, right, So.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Structure and tradition, So what does what does this mean
for us? For somebody else? Now, so for somebody like me,
I have a problem with structure.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Do you know what I've written down? Routines and rituals.
So for me, a routine would I'd balk at the
idea of putting in to practice a routine and would
really struggle with it. Whereas a ritual is slightly different,
but it's the same thing in its essence.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You can kid yourself, can't you? Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, okay, because you know, like we go through lots
of things. Can be with you know, when you when
you get out of bed every morning, do you do
the same thing that's you know, that's a routine, isn't it?
When you go to the bathroom pick up your toothbrush,
do you know, like.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But it could also be a ritual. Yes, okay, m
And in a way, yes, you're right, they feel different.
They do feel So if I'm.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
There's reverence to a to a ritual, there is where
irreverence routine.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I think, yes, I think that, you know, sort of
applying this to business, I think potentially it could be
about becoming a little bit more spiritual, and that doesn't
acts got nothing to do with any higher being or
anything like that. It can just be bringing a different
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sort of way of thinking and being into your business
and maybe thinking of things as ritual rather more than routine.
Could be a difficult thing to get through to staff,
depending on who they are. But I think for this,
for this one, actually just being aware that we need
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to acknowledge some sort of spiritual type growth and ritual
in our business and our being. And I know that
sends really woo.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Woo, welcome to my world.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes it's but I think it's something that we that
we do. Anyway. I think people bring ritual and spirituality
into things without even realizing necessarily what they're doing. Reading
the Financial Times could be a ritual.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, I think it's the so to what keeps coming
into into my mind was the sacredness of life. So
it's like, there is is it really necessary for me
to do that thing? You know? Like so whatever that
routine is or ritual, you know, like, is it necessary
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for me? Or can I allow someone else to do it?
If I was going to reply it to a business sense,
so can you know, so, can I delegate that role?
Can I delegate that job? Can someone else in my
business do it better for me? Better than me? Sorry,
rather than like trying to being the chief cook and
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bottle washer, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Especially I had business that's.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That I hadn't thought of that, So that's another interesting angle. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah. The card also is about spiritual counseling and love
that just goes stronger, but and following a spiritual path
even and this may go well with people that do
work in organizations such as schools, that would work quite
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well churches. It can it can be to do with
people in a religious organization in a sense. And if
you look at the cards on some decks, it very
much looks like not necessarily a priest, but it does
look like it could be something very religious.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like a bishopy type ye look.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also he helps find your path
or helps to lead you on your path. It can
suggest uncertainty when looking at card, but is in a
sense it's like looking for the deeper meaning and not
to what we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So it's a bit he's a pathfinder. Yeah, yeah, okay,
So it could be that it is by shaking stuff out,
by bringing in a different way of planning, by breaking
with some of the things that you're doing, you are
actually this is a you are allowing space for a
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new path, even if you aren't setting it in concrete
maybe until later on in the year. You are allowing
that path to emerge.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, And it's a little bit about finding that comfort
as much as anything as well, and surrounded by the
people that believe in you, but you also believe in
or you want there and those that have got good
values and things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It could be where you're going to be. It could
be a month for changing the people around you could
go yeah, watch out.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Time to shake out all the tasks that you don't
have to do.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Given to someone else.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Is also about were learning as well, going forwards and
that The second card with May is the seven of pentacles.
This can be about change in direction rewards. It can
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indicate investment effort and refers to the end of financial
hardships often and material hardships, and shows that you're beginning
to and the corner and things are beginning to change.
As far as that goes, as long as you put
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the time and the effort in work wise especially.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
All fits together quite nicely, then, doesn't it. You know,
shaking off the old new path may be emerging and
bringing with it some of the financial rewards as well.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, it reaffirms your long term visions and demonstrates that
you're not really limited to goals, that you can change them,
which would go well with your targets and changing dates
and that, and you don't have to focus just on
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the short term of what's happening now that you can
perhaps go just a little bit further.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And another thing that's always useful to look at but
sometimes overlooked is, you know, if we're talking about perhaps
a change in fortune that sort of thing, what grant
funding is being offered locally, what grant funding is being
offered nationally? You know, wherever you are, is your local
chamber of commerce or something along those lines is your
local government you know is then? You know, are we
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entering a new funding round? What's opening up? Go and
have a look, and don't be afraid to apply. You know,
even if you don't think you're going to get something.
Make sure you read the application, make sure that you
are putting in basically the details that they need. And
if you don't get it, well, it's actually still quite
a useful exercise to have gone through it. We've examined
your business. Start to look at grant funding. There is
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a lot of funding around.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yeah, yeah, and I don't think many people probably don't
even know the half of it. I think advertised as such.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I think there are lots of very small micro businesses,
but I call them micro micro businesses who really don't
consider grant funding as an option for them. They don't
think it's applicable for them. They're too small. The one
man bands, there's also a man. I'm using that as
a generic term. I you know, they don't. It's not
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for them. I'll tell you what it actually is for you.
Just go and have a look. Not everything out there
is for you, no, but go and have a look.
You would be surprised how much is out there. Yeah,
So that's my advice for me. I was just shaking
it all up. Go and have a look at grant
funding as well.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yeah, it's not a bad idea, is it that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Every now and then, Yeah, not often, but every now
and then one sparks.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
As I say, not a lot of people know about
all of that, do they? And if they are on
the turn, especially with the business, you know, and there's
I know, there's a lot more than what a lot
of people realize because I was talking to someone not
so long ago that applied for a grant for equipment,
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but it wasn't what I issue, and they would get
a grant four because it wasn't something like a computer
or a place of work or something like that. So
I was actually really surprised. When you look into it.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You would be. And it all fits together because very
often when you look at grant applications and what they want,
they will want some sort of outcome, They will want
some sort of report. Something has to come out of it.
So if you're you know, if you're in a process,
if you're in a space at the moment where you're
reviewing your targets, you're reviewing your goals, perfect time to
actually build in some of the outcomes that some of
the grant funders might actually want to be seeing from you. Yeah,
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so right, then, what's next?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
The crystal? The crystal?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Hang, I'm looking. I'm sorry, I've got two bits of paper.
I'm looking. I'm looking at the I'm looking at giraffes.
Have I got it wrong? The good drafts is on
the next pat right, Sorry, I'll stop interrupted.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Sounds really mad now I'm telling them that we're looking
at giraffes.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I am I'll stop flapping pieces of paper and just
let you go.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Right. So the next the crystal for May is the emerald.
This is shows successful love and friendships. It represents loyalty
and integrity, helps keeps partnerships in balance. And again we're
talking work as well as home, so it obviously also
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includes different people or different levels of people. Really from
where you're going. It can show that certain people have
got clevoyant abilities. It doesn't obviously mean everybody can, but
it does say that so and it just aligns vibrations
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and mainly with the heart chacra. It aligns a lot
with that one. It helps bring balance and that into
your life as well. Some people just have it almost
like a crystal in their purse or pocket. You know.
Other people just have a piece of it at home.
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Apart from obviously you can also get the jewelry and
stuff like that if you want it.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
But you know what's really interesting is earlier on we
were talking about the snake. I was saying about the
snake and about the earrings. The earrings had like green
stones the current color of emeralds.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
As for the eyes for the snake.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Oh that's interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
It was fascinating anyway, So that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Was another conversation. Nobody said anything was going to make sense.
So looking at the emerald and what you've just said,
you're talking about visionaries and also people who may be clairvoyant.
If we look at clairvoyant as somebody who's clear voyant,
it's just somebody who is really quite tuned in to
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the actions of other people, to what's going on in
the world and around them, as opposed to picking up
anything strange or weird or supernatural. It doesn't have to
be about that. It's just that some people are a
little bit more aware, that's all. It is. Actually sort
of accepting that in your business there may be somebody
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that you have in your team who is like that,
who it could be quite easy to sort of poo
pooh and go oh, they're a bit mad. Don't worry,
it's just Gloria again spouting off. Well, maybe it's time
to actually listen to Gloria, because within there she may
sound a bit mad, but within there may actually be
the little the little bit of knowing that is absolutely
(35:43):
right for the direction of the business. So don't always
dismiss every something that somebody says just because they may
seem a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Actually, I was going to say about the inner knowing,
so the clairvoyance that everyone has the ability to be
able to access their own in a knowing, and often
they don't trust it. And I think it's a really
good time of year to really sit with the and
(36:16):
listen to what's happening inside, because we often get cues
and get information from other people that immediately we will
not believe our own intuition. It's our intuition speaking.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It is we.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Don't always believe it, and we're like push it aside
because of whatever cultural condition.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But you hear people say I always knew there was something,
you know, there's something wrong with him. I knew we
shouldn't have taken him on this, that or the other.
And that's all it is. It's just that you've picked
up a queue or something that you can't nail down.
You can't apply any logic to it, you can't write
it down, you can't put it against an application form,
and so you go as must be my imagination, Yeah,
(37:04):
I'll let it go. One of the masterminding tools, one
of the sort of planning tools that I alwish you
really used to love and still do with a team,
is to just give permission. It doesn't to write anything down,
just brainstorm, and it doesn't matter how stupid it may sound.
Don't think it through, don't rationalize it however daft it sounds.
Just get it out on a piece of paper. Because
(37:25):
very often out of that little sparker we'll call it
madness is the real genius, the real gem.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
So if there's a really good process, have you heard
of Edward Bono's six hats theory. It's a creative process
for masterminding. So where you would have there's six hats
of six different colors, and you start off and like
everyone can only think in that way. So a green
hat is only creative, and the black hat is only
(37:57):
about what could go wrong, and then there's all these
others in between, which I can't remember what they all
stand for. But there's an actual process. But it's called
the six hats theory.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Brilliant. So masterminding, intuition, tap into the weird one, yeah, right, okay, regeneration,
right okay, onwards and upwards.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
So now I don't think we need to explain much
more about the emerald we.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
No, I think we've probably then we're done with that.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
So that then leads us to the spirit animal of May,
which is a giraffe. Now, I know you mentioned giraffe
a little while ago when you was writing something down,
and I can't remember what that was for. You said
something about the giraffe again.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't I don't know. I think the giraffe came
up earlier in the year.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
It's funny you should say the giraft because someone sent
me a short clip from the film Madagascar Out of
Africa too. I think it's called and there's a scene
in there where King Julian is giving instruction to a
giraffe that's sitting in a big hole. You've got to
watch the clip to understand it. But it's just funny
(39:16):
that you have brought that up.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, we're weird like that giraffe.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, he symbolizes the importance of looking at things differently,
but also looking at adaptability and self acceptance. It promotes
personal growth and courage there. And I think before we've
(39:45):
joked about well, he can look at things differently because
of its long neck, and everything else canly very different.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
But this all rather spokely, all fits together, doesn't it,
Because if we're saying that may it's the time for reflection,
shaking off old energy, bringing in new stuff, exploring what's possible.
And you know, a giraffe, you're right up there, You're
above the day to day distractions, and it's the perfect
it's a perfect place to actually gain perspective, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I've just get.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Before you said it.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm just getting a new perspective.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, we're geniuses, We're brilliant. Yeah, getting getting new new perspective.
You're getting new perspective seeing who we are, seeing who
others are, looking at what we might have missed. And
also I think, you know, looking at shaking off old limitations,
looking at what maybe limitations or we may have I
(40:41):
don't think you realize what a limitation is.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Do you until you can only connect the dots looking
you can't do it look forward?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yes, but just exploring that. Yeah, yeah, it's sometimes it's
scary the way this all fits together, isn't it? Or
you can or you could say, you know, you make
it fit together, because this is just guidance, you know,
it's a I think if we're not careful in business
(41:09):
and in our lives, we just do the same thing
every day, day in day out. We just have a
little bit of variety every now and then we go
to the theme or the water park, but mostly we
do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
And I said you didn't like routines. Yeah, routine, yeah,
a routine of the money.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
But very often in business we do do the same
things all the time because our our business cycle of
you know, tax and this and that and things that
we have to do almost force us into that. And
I like that sort of may and everything that's that
we are bringing out of this is about actually, let's
just stop doing that for a moment. Let's see what
(41:48):
we can shake up. Can we do something different? And
the giraffe is giving us. By being up there, we're
getting a brand new perspective as well. We're looking at
things from a totally different angle. Because if you always look,
if you always sit around the same board table with
the same people, with the same set of with the
same agenda and last month's minutes that you go over endlessly,
(42:08):
nothing's going to change, is it. It's always going to
be the same. So where are we going to maze?
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Also actually associated with fertility and creativity as well? Tane, Yeah, okay, yeah,
oh cool. That would bring that into it, wouldn't it
as well? Then? Yeah? And that's interesting as well, then,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, that's in our community magazine? Is she said? You
don't know? You don't read it? Do you? No? You
see she doesn't she does we had last week or something?
She doesn't, she doesn't read this stuff?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Is it the one we had last week?
Speaker 4 (42:44):
It's all about fertility riots and that's what the may
dance is about, isn't it around the main pole?
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
I didn't know that either. I didn't know that. That's
why they danced around the maypos.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's a phaic and the girls that around it.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
We always moving. So and do you want to talk.
We we don't need to talk about just mentioned this.
(43:28):
I'll just like squirt that into the conversation. Was talking
about yes, okay, So it is a month of fertility.
Now that we've moved away from Poles, we're going to
be here. Yeah, coming this up to you, dear, Just
(43:49):
carry on.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
It's also a symbol of renown, hope. It represents fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Please please can we can we rain in here.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Rightibility of new beginning. So it's a connection with love.
So at least we know dancing around the main is
for love, not for just anything else. So yeah, and
it emphasizes growth and maturing and maturing and encourages us
(44:30):
to focus and mainly on our personal development, but nurturing
ideas and projects and that as well.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
So we need to pull all of this together, don't we. So,
and I formed myself out now you've been writing lots
of notes and be able to maybe like to like
to put you know, you can bring some of this
(45:01):
stuff together, I think today seeing as I've got you.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Here right, So essentially you've got to just trust yourself,
be open to new things, you know, like looking at
things differently, go on a day trip or do something different.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
That's a really good idea on it.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Just go on a day trip that you wouldn't normally
do so that you can have a whole new, different experience,
which is where the giraffe thing giraffe animal comes in,
because you've got a whole new different perspective on life
and that whole trusting your intuition while you're out as well.
(45:44):
You know, like when you're out of your work environment,
you you'll get different insights, especially if you're in a
completely you know, you're into something that's not what you
would normally do. So if you normal to go and
walk around castles, then go and do some snowboarding or
(46:04):
something in a center that's you know, whether it's fake
snow of real snow, but you know whatever, it's like,
just do something different, that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
So we run Stepping Out. So Stepping Out is a
it's a program. It's an event for businesses, business people,
all shape sizes, growth wherever, and we run it once
a month. And the idea behind that is actually to
get out of where you normally are, to get out
of your It could be that you're working out your bedroom,
(46:38):
your kitchen, your office. It doesn't really matter, but to
get out of somewhere else to get out. But it
has where we run, it has a high ceiling, which
is really good for abstract thinking, to actually starting to
think differently than perhaps how you have done before. Think.
Another way of getting some different visions and viewpoints is
(47:03):
to go somewhere I said, by the sea, by water,
where you have a big expanse of water. So it
puts your it puts your brain into alpha. So it
just gets you thinking a little bit differently, you know.
So just go there. This is what I do. I
just go there with go with a pen and paper,
(47:25):
nothing fancy, and just sit there and see what comes up.
And I think the important thing is to not have
any judgment.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
So by judgment, I mean, oh that's a stupid idea,
or I will Bill tried that last year and it
didn't work, or well that will never work, or that'll
cost too much money, or I wouldn't enjoy that. Whatever.
Just just write stuff down, yeah, and to sort of
shake things up a bit and get and get things coming,
(47:58):
just coming from a different angle. Because I think that's
just the hardest thing, isn't it is to get out
of the groove of where we are.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah, yeah, and it can pay dividends, massive dividends.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Just asking different questions, you know, what would happen if
we didn't do this, what would happen if we did
do this, what's going to happen if we continue running
this service, what won't happen if we continue running this service,
And just really sort of get some journaling prompts and
questions that sort of just spark that change, either with
(48:31):
your team or with yourself, to almost sort of knock
things off the rails.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, you definitely need to do that from time to time.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Because it can it can just be so so difficult,
I think sort of getting and doing something. So I
think another thing is looking at what's happened before, you know,
what's happened in the past, what's gone wrong before, what's
gone wrong before, and maybe looking at why that happened,
(49:03):
and just sort of challenging yourself.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
I think that's a really good point, is they're looking
at what went right. A lot of business owners don't
look at what went right the more at the what
went wrong, and they never look at what went right.
So absolutely right, do more of what went right rather
than you know, like tird's always a third. I don't
(49:28):
know how much polish you put on it, it's still
going to be the same. And it means why focus there?
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah on that? Yes, I think there's a book by
a guy I can't remember his name. He's written two books,
and one of them I think is called The Gap
and the Gain, where we always look at what was
wrong instead of looking at what was right. Another thing
I really like doing, and this is by the same guy.
I'm not being very helpful because I'm actually telling you
who he is. I can't remember, but it's called ten
(49:56):
times is easier than two times? And this is this
is a brilliant book and a brilliant concept for actually
shaking things up in your business, which is if you
look at so how many clients you have now and
go right, well, okay, how could I have twice as
many clients? What you're going to come up with is
ideas like I could do a bit more of SEO,
(50:17):
or I could do a bit more networking, I could
do a bit more of this or that, And effectively,
what you're going to do is double what you're already doing.
Now you just have to say you do more work
to get twice as many clients, but you need more
work to do that. Another way of doing it is going,
what do I need to do to get ten times
as many clients as I have now it and doing
(50:38):
a little bit more SEO or a little bit more
networking is not going to bring you ten times more clients.
What is going to bring you ten times more clients
is maybe looking at different alliances that you can form
with people, where you can bring in clients in different ways,
you know, offloading some of your work, but you're going
to come up with something that is totally different to
(50:58):
what you're doing now. Yeah, that I think is a
way to go.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
The author of that book, God, Dan Sullivan, thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
I think he co authored it. It's an excellent, excellent book.
And I think he also wrote The Gap and the Game.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
That is the one I'm referring to that.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Okay, Dan Sullivan is the guy that wrote ten times
is easier than two times. Just get that and start
sort of brainstorming how you could multiply your business by
ten You will come up with some very very different
answers than if you go how can I grow my
business or how can I get twice as many clients.
So if in this May you're looking to shake off
(51:37):
old routines, shake off old energy, shake off what you've
been doing before, and get yourself started on a different path,
maybe with different results, I suggest that's a good place
to start.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Great to start, good month.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Right, Thank you so much for listening, folks. I hope
you have a stunning mate. I hope your businesses are
roaring forwards, that you're enjoying yourself, that you are looking
after yourself as well. So I'm going to say thank
you so much to my co host Ka who also
puts all of this together, and also thank you for
Donna still for joining us and chipping in. And we
(52:13):
will see you all again with spiritual insights next month.
This time next month, so take care everybody. Bye.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
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