2023 Year in Review

It's the most wonderful time of the year! That's right, the holiday season is upon us and that means that it's time to review 2023. In this episode, we reflect on the last year, including where we went, what we did in each place, how each trip was, as well as some of our highlights from the year.

We start by talking about our trip to Panama and Colombia, and what we learned about balancing parenthood and work-life with traveling. We also dive into our trips to Japan, Canada, the US, and Argentina, discussing our experiences in each country and the valuable lessons that we learned along the way! Since we spent 2023 based in Mexico, we had lots of opportunities to explore Mexico so we also share about the domestic trips that we took this year. Finally, we end the episode by sharing what's next for us in 2024 and some of the upcoming trips that we have planned for the year!

Happy Holidays and we'll see you in 2024!

Episode Transcript

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Hello and welcome to the World Wanderspodcast, a proud part of the wander
Barn podcast network. I'm Ryan,I'm Amanda, and we're your hosts.
We're a traveling couple and digital nomad'staking you on our adventures as we explore
locations, destinations, and careers.Enjoy the show. Hello, and welcome
back to the world Wanders. Weare very excited that you are here with

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us today, and as it's theend of the year, it's time for
us to do our year in reviewepisode. Yeah, and we've been a
little bit absent over the last Iguess month, month and a half,
so maybe we can start by addressingthat. I think the last episode we
put out was kind of the endof October, is right before we flew
to Argentina, and we're going totell you more about Argentina a little bit

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in this episode, and we'll definitelyin the new year have some like Argentina
specific episodes. But we had bigplans of arriving to Argentina and doing a
recording about how it went traveling along haul flight because Argentina is pretty south,
my friends. I'm sure you knowif you look on a map,
but it's it's pretty south from Mexicowhere we live, and so it was

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a pretty long flight. And atthis point we're traveling with like a full
on toddler. Our daughter is almosttwo at this point and she's pretty big
to be sharing a seat with us. So we were going to talk about,
you know, preparing for that flight, because that is, you know,
a super different preparation from even whatwe did for Japan just a couple
of months ago. And then weboth got struck with terrible colds, not

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super super sick, but definitely we'renot able to record podcast episodes and so
yeah, we've just not done thepodcast for like six weeks. So here
we are doing a year in review. We're going to wrap it up and
then, like I said, we'llkick off the new year with a little
recap on Argentina. And we're slowlygetting some photos out on social media,

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so eventually you will hear all aboutour trip, but we'll give you at
least the high level over view ofit here here and now. So we're
happy to be back after a littlebit of a I guess unintentional break that
we took. Yeah, I thinkthis is probably something we'll talk about bit
more about like future of the podcast, kind of what we want to look
at and think about it in thenext year. But yeah, this feeling

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is sometimes when you're doing a project. Hype this for us, we really
love making the podcast, talking aboutour travels. We love interacting with everybody
who listens and like hearing about yourtrips and hearing if things have been of
value to you guys. But sometimesit feels like a lot of work and
then you're like, wait a second, I'm my own boss here, so

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maybe we'll just take a break.But if you are someone who's like weekly
listening to the podcast or every otherweek when they come out and is bombed,
let us know. And that's alwaysgood information to have. But let's
start by kind of going through travel. So this year we definitely hit the
road again. I think it waslike fall twenty twenty two. The world

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was returning to normal, lou wasgetting a little bit bigger, we were
feeling a little bit more stable inparenthood. And also this impending like we're
going to have to buy three ticketsin February of twenty twenty four. All
kind of combined to give us someinspiration and I kind of I think the
first thing might have been I don'tknow if it was summer, but back

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in twenty twenty two, we're like, fuck it, let's buy tickets to
Colombia. And then it really kickedoff a big year of travel for us.
So we went to countrywise Panama,Colombia, the US, Japan,
Argentina, brief stopovers in Chile andthen Canada as well. So actually no

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new countries for us, but alot of countries, some new places,
and a lot of great adventures.Also lots of cool stuff in Mexico,
and I think kind of also experiencinglike an evolution of kind of setting ourselves
up with a homebase and how thatwas able to bring lots of friends to
where we were when we start thingsoff a little bit in chronological order with
Panama and Colombia and that trip,Yeah, for sure. And maybe just

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since you set home base, wecan just kind of set the scene a
little bit. So if you guyskind of have been listening along, then
obviously you know we landed in Cadetado, Mexico to have our baby girl at
the end of twenty twenty one,so we've been here for about two years
now and we just rented an airbnbfor like six seven months. We figured

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we'll spend my third trimester in thefirst kind of three months of her life
here, and we just really likedthe city and we also liked being really
stable, so we ended up signinga lease on a house. It was
a bit nerve racking for us atfirst. Anyone out there who's doing no
mad life or has done no medlife can probably understand the stress that comes
with this idea of signing a oneyear lease when you haven't done that in

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so many years, and we hadn'tdone that in so many years. But
I think it's one of the bestdecisions we've made in the last couple of
years because it gave us this stability, this ability to settle, this ability
to focus on both work and beingparents, which is, you know,
too exhausting things in and of themselves. But because we have affordable living in

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a great quality of life here,we've also been able to strike a balance
of being able to travel while keepingthis home base. And I think that
that's been one of the best balancesthat we've been able to strike in the
last couple of years. Like Ihave really really loved having a home base
and then also being able to travel. And I feel like it's a real
blessing to be able to do that, especially in twenty twenty three when costs

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and inflation are at a kind ofall time high. Yeah, and so
the first trip he did was rightat the start of the January fifth.
We're in the midst of a kindof a cold snap here snap quote unquote,
not a Canadian cold snap, anyNorthern Americans or Canadians listening, Not

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that kind of cold snap. Butit is chilly here, especially because there's
no central heating in the home.Yeah, and I think we both had
a bit of like death cough whereit was like we just had these costs
we couldn't get rid of. Andwe flew back to Panama. We've've talked
about on the podcast, but yeah, I had chance to reacquaint ourselves a
little bit with Panama on a stopoverbefore heading to Colombia. What are your

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kind of now that we're almost twelvemonths away from it, like recollections thoughts
on that first adventure. Yeah,it was fun because we were out for
a walk yesterday and we were justreflecting on the travels this year and kind
of what we learned. And oneof the things that I was reflecting on
is that I really loved that wedid stop over in Panama. We talked
about this in our Panama episode,but we got a layover via Copa.

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Copa's doing I think they're still doingit these like couple day layovers. You
can schedule one day or you know, a week or whatever you want.
In Panama City, I think they'rereally trying to, you know, get
tourism in there, get people toget out of the airport and actually experience
the city. And so we tookadvantage of that, flying from Mexico City
to Medine I believe it was,and we spent about three days there.

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We hadn't been there since we leftin a hurry from the pandemic. And
one of the things I think wasreally great is that we booked a nice
airbnb right in Casco Viejo, whichis the old town there, very close
to a lot of the restaurants thatwe really liked, and close to coffee
shops we like, in an areathat's super beautiful. Gave us really easy
access to one of our favorite walkingpaths, and we just enjoyed the time

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that we had there. It wasjust a couple of days. It was
super hot, and I think thatthis was kind of the first this I
mean, this was the first tripother than being in Canada for a couple
of weeks and then also going tothe US where we traveled with lou and
so we were kind of just feelingout, like what is it like to
travel while you're working, while I'mworking during naps, while like coordinating her
schedule, you know, figuring outtransportation with a kid that needs a car

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seat, all that type of stuff. So I feel like it was kind
of like the first time of dippingour feet into that new lifestyle, this
new lifestyle that we travel with,and I feel like we just had a
great setup there and I feel likeit was just like a really fun It
was like only three days, butI feel like it was just like a
really fun trip. Yeah, andthen Columbia was really cool as well.
I think there's definitely highlights, likevisiting Gotape and also getting some to spend

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kind of an offline weekend in SantaElena. I think looking back for it,
for me, that kind of timeframe and one of the big lessons
we learned there that was like reallyour first time out with Lou trying to
do this work and travel thing waslike one the importance of neighborhood and being
like close to things you want todo because you're going to be kind of

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heading back for naps. At thatpoint, I think it was still she
still happen twice, yeah, oncein the morning, once in the afternoon,
so we were kind of like morningactivity back for her nap, lunch
activity back for her nap, eveningactivity back for bedtime. I feel like
it was a little bit of ascrambled go like anywhere further than like twenty
minutes, and we ended up stayingin a decently nice apartment. It was

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relatively expensive compared to like some ofthe other options, but very small,
And I think that that's one ofthe big takeaways for me from that was
like just the importance that we're goingto be doing this as a family,
trying to work of like the actualspace that you're staying in does kind of
matter more now, I think thanit did when it was just us where

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we could be like what could cheapairbnb and it's like we're just going to
sleep there and we're gonna work inthe cafes and be out all day.
So it's like take a call fromthe bathroom and it really doesn't matter,
you know. It's like her,like how we set up her space matters
a lot more. Yeah. Andtwo also just like the amount of space,
because like, like you said,we stayed at some places in the
past where it's like, oh,teach like an English class from the closet

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from the bathroom, and now it'slike loose sleeping in one room. And
so if you're in like a studio, obviously it's problematic, but like you
need someone needs. There's needs abalcony space and a bedroom space and a
main living space, but places wherewe can do calls and stuff. Yeah.
Overall, I think for me thatwas a really cool trip. It's
interesting because one of the things that'sawesome about Kedet to do is that it

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has really great weather, but theredefinitely are some times where you get kind
of tired of being here, andso I think taking that January trip was
really nice to kind of just likeescape the kind of colder, grayer time
and it was like, hey,we did Christmas and then kind of got
to like a nice warm place.Yeah, for sure, it was actually
really interesting. You know, it'sobviously December at the time of recording.
We're kind of getting into this likegray, colder, surprisingly rainy this season

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time. We've got our space heatersrunning in our house. You know that
sounds ridiculous because we're in Mexico,but hear us out it is chilly here.
And one of my friends was saying, she's she's new here, and
she was saying, I don't knowhow I'm going to manage this like freezing
cold house through January. And Iwas thinking, what was January like last
year, Like what did we do? And I was like, oh right,

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it was hot, it was sunny. We went to Panama where it
was like extremely hot, and thenwe went to Columbia, and if anyone
hasn't listened to our Columbia episodes,we spent the majority of our time in
Mediine and El Pa Blato's kind oflike, you know, the popular place
where people talk about if you're therea backpacker or a nomad, the place

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to stay or around that area.We'd had a friend who'd been you know,
a couple of months before us,who had stayed in that area,
and we ended up renting an apartmentbuilding in the same location as him,
and I think, you know,there's nothing wrong with where we stayed.
I just think we're in a differentchapter of life. And so we got
there and I was kind of like, huh, this is not really like

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a family friendly vibe, this isnot really like the ideal space for us.
And so it wasn't bad, butI think it was just a good
learning experience. Like the last timewe went to Mediin was in twenty fourteen,
we were baby backpackers. We werestaying in hostels, you know,
very very very different life chapter thanwhat we're in right now. And I

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think we just have worked in somany places, like you said, Ryan,
where it's like we just use acloset or we use a bathroom to
like, yeah, teach an Englishclass or take a call or whatever whatever.
And I think we just didn't knowwhat we needed out of a space.
And so we booked this one bedroomapartment which granted definitely used like a
fish eye lens in their photos becauseit was quite a bit smaller than what

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it seemed to be and it hadyou know, one and a half bath,
which thankfully it had a bathroom outsideof the bedroom. And then it
had a small kitchen, a smallliving room, a patio, a good
sized bedroom, and the bedroom didhave a desk. But the problem is
is that we had a small infantwho was less than a year, who
napped what like four hours a day, maybe five hours a day, and

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so if we ever had calls atthe same time, it's like one of
us has to use the bathroom orthe patio, you know, stuff like
that. And so I think wejust had a really good learning experience with
that about how to plan a bitbetter. And I know we'll talk about
the with Japan. I think wewere talking about this yesterday. We planned
so much better for that trip.But maybe let's not skip ahead. But

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yeah, Columbia was. All thatto say is like we really enjoyed Columbia.
The food was amazing. It wasso fun to be back there.
It was so fun to be backto Mediine after what nine years of not
being there, and especially we hada trip planned in twenty twenty that was
like what ten days after the pandemickind of was fully declared that obviously got
canceled, so it was fun tokind of take that trip. Yeah,

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yeah, definitely fun to be backon the road. Again be somewhere new,
and I think for me one thingkind of stands back, just kind
of like fond feelings about Panama too, Like I feel like I like to
go back again, and it's beento stretch there, but I kind of
got on back. And then doinga bit more like kind of bigger family
travel. We went somewhere with yourparents this February. We went to Puerto

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Vallarta. Yeah, so we wentthere just then they wanted to come down
for Lou's first birthday, which isin February, and my birth is also
in February, very close to hers, and so we kind of booked a
trip to do that. I kindof said they'd come down here in December.
It's like, why don't we gosomewhere warm? Like why, I
mean, it's obviously significantly warmer inKidetro than it is in Alberta, Canada.

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But I'm like, why don't wego to the beach? Like we
would love to have a beach trip, and it'd be really fun for us
to just do that. We cantake lu to pv for the first time.
You know, that's a place thatwe really love, and it's kind
of interesting. I mean, youguys will hear when we give our update.
We've got a lot more like travelwith our families happening now that we
have a child. This wasn't reallysomething that we've been doing in the last

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couple of years. We our parentsdidn't really come to visit us in Mexico.
We didn't really plan trips with them, and it's been fun to kind
of have this, I guess likenew chapter of travel added in and we
had a really, really good time. It was like a different vibe than
what we're used to in PV becausewe stayed at more of like a resort
hotel thing, not all inclusive,but like, yeah, resort hotel,

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which we've never really done there.But it was still really fun. We
got to go to some of ourfavorite restaurants and you know, walk on
the Melicon and go to the beach. It was great trip. Yeah,
and we also drove out there,so we spent two nights in guaal Lahara,
one on the way out, oneon the way back. And yeah,
it was just cool to see lotsof stuff we hadn't seen before driving
from here to Guadalajara and then Guadalajarato PV. I feel like I was

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watching I saw someone's there's like anInstagram story someone on a big road trip,
and I was thinking, like,it's been a while since we've had
a big road trip and kind ofenjoyed those but that was cool for that
reason, and then that got usready for like our biggest trip of the
year, which was to Japan,which we've talked a lot about on the
podcast, but kind of outside ofthe stuff we talked about kind of previous

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episodes. What do you think kindof looking back on that Japan trip in
April, Oh, my gosh,Japan was for sure a highlight of this
whole year. I feel like thiswas probably my favorite trip that we did
this year. I just feel likewe went at a good time of year.
We had friends there at the sametime of us, a time as
US, which was so fun.We planned really well in terms of like

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when you were working, when wewere I feel like we went to great
places. We was a really funage for it. I mean, Japan
is amazing and we could go.I mean we did go on and on
for like four episodes about how muchwe love Japan, but I just feel
like Japan is a really great countryto travel with probably any age children,
but particularly a small child. Ifelt like it was a really I mean,

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it's so safe. There's so manyservices for children, Like the public
transit is amazing, it's super safe, the food's great. Like I just
feel like there was not really anythingbad about that trip, honestly, Like
it was just amazing. Like andI think we're already like dreaming of going
back. Yeah. I think forme, we've been talking about we diden't

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watching The Room meet Sethi's show onNetflix and where they talk about kind of
living a rich life and how youspend your money that type of thing.
And for me, looking back onJapan, I was like, this is
exactly like the types of the typeof travel I want to be doing,
and so yeah, so much coolstuff there, but it's also just a

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place where it's like really fun tojust be. Like I think looking back
at Columbia, maybe that's a littlebit of a difference where I felt like
the things we did in Colombia,like when we had kind of during the
weeks trying to work and then onthe weekend went to Gotapa, went to
Santa Helena, went to the NationalPark and like definitely had some good meals

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and stuff, but like just kindof like the being there part of it
was like fine, but I wasalso kind of like I kind of miss
being at home, just like thebeing there part of being in Japan is
like I find it's kind of likeyou're like, well, going to seven
eleven, that's going on here,I've taken a train, Like there's so
many like cool just like things aboutjust like being there walking around. Well,

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the culture is so different, right, but it's also like different in
a way that's not like totally uncomfortable, because it's safe, because people are
so kind, because people are verypatient. Like I think it's just a
really good cultural immersion experience in away that you know, you just don't
get in a lot of other countriesor a lot of other countries that we've

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experienced. And I also think obviouslyColombia and Mexico have, you know,
significant cultural differences and significant differences infood, but it's not as different to
go from Mexico to Columbia as itis from Mexico to Japan. And obviously
everyone knows what the pandemic. It'slike, we just didn't travel very much
over the course of what twenty twentyto basically twenty twenty three, and obviously

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we could have traveled earlier, butI was pregnant, we had a baby,
you know, all the things.So I feel like it was first
well I don't feel like, Iknow, it was the first trip we
took in since we were in Asiain what twenty seventeen, where we were
in a country that wasn't English orSpanish speaking, and that was weird for
us. And it's like, oh, you know, we kind of travel

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full time, but it's been sixyears since we've been in a country that
doesn't speak English or Spanish, Likethat's kind of crazy. We've really been
nestled in this little corner of theworld for a number of years now,
and that's been amazing for so manyreasons. But I think it was just
so good to get out of ourcomfort zone in a place that is so
different and so strange, but alsolike so safe and so comfortable in so

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many ways. Yeah, yeah,I think looking back, for me,
some of the highlights are just likehanging out in parks, taking trains,
going to like the Saunas and thehot bass. Why am I forgetting the
word for what they call that hotsprings Onsen, Onsen, So yeah,

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that part of it also worked outreally well. I feel really really lucky
kind of the way I've got workset up right now to have been able
to, you know, go tothe other side of the world and keep
working. So that was really cool. And I think having that second experience
in Japan, we went to someplaces we've been before, some places we

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haven't been, and it just feelslike there's so many layers to it of
places I want to go, theplaces we've been. I want to spend
more time in different areas of Tokyo. So definitely like on my radar for
wanting to go back again relatively soon, and so we twenty twenty four.
Yeah, I did the long flights. The long flights pretty solid. It'll

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be interesting kind of making the transitionnow from us having two seats to us
going to three seats and our kindof business class lifestyle going back to an
economy lifestyle if we're doing those longflights again. But came back from Japan
and then kind of turned right aroundin Mexico and went to Austin for a
little bit. Anything kind of wantto say about Austin. I think it

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was just like fun to be.It's always fun to go to the US
for us. We've got great friendsthere that we get to catch up with.
I feel like we've got some likefavorite food stops, and I just
think Austin's a really fun city.If you guys haven't been, I feel
like I would definitely recommend it.I feel like, you know, it's
expensive, but I think that there'sjust a lot of like cool stuff to
do. And obviously we don't doa lot of the like nightlife stuff anymore,

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which Austin has great nightlife and stuffto do, but I think there's
still tons of stuff to do evenif you have, you know, small
kids. Yeah, I think thisis it's interesting Austin. This is like
the what what one? Two?Maybe like the fifth time we've been to
Austin. Yeah, we've been toAustin a bunch now, and so I

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feel like Austin one has tons ofcool people in it, like we've got
good friends there. And then alsojust it seems like, you know,
tons of cool people, tons ofinteresting community being in Austin. Seems like
there's tons of cool stuff in Austin, Like there's great restaurants, some beautiful
parks, lots of things to dooutside of the city, lots of things
to do inside of the city,kind of growing bustling city. There's two

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things that kind of as we havegone back and kind of got more familiar
with the city, kind of likeI noticed myself disliking more. Is one
just how far everything is apart,Like it really is like a car city.
I think this is so many majorcities in America though. Yeah,
but it's like there's lots of coolstuff in Austin, but a lot of
it's quite spread out and there's nolike I think, like East Austin seems

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cool and there's maybe a bit morecondensed stuff. But like the other factor
is just like the homelessness and kindof delinquency on the streets kind of gives
you the impression that it's like youdon't really want to walk around, kind
of like the exact opposite of aJapan situation. I think maybe we noticed
it so much more, Like weliterally had one night in Mexico City before

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we went to Austin, and Ifeel like it's just a very different vibe
from Japan. Yeah, so Ithink there's things for me now where I'm
like noticing myself like being less excitedabout the idea of being there. I
think like for a living it wouldbe cool because of that community aspect,
but that I definitely noticed that kindof evolution with it for me, I

(23:18):
think something can I add on tothat because I think, of course,
because I think with cities that arenot super walkable or that don't have you
know, nice good public transit,when you have a small child that's in
a car seat, it makes uberingaround like extremely difficult. And obviously in
Mexico or maybe not obviously, butin Mexico and a lot of Latin America

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you can just like go rogue andhold your child. This is not the
option that we choose like ninety ninepercent of the time, but you can
do it in the US. That'sin Canada too, it's like very illegal.
So it makes ubering basically a nonoption for us unless we're going to
transport a car seat with us everywherewe go. And as Lou has gotten
bigger, you know, she doesn'tjust have like an infant car seat that

(24:02):
we can just pop in and outthat's like super lightweight, like she's you
know, a toddler. She's walkingit's it just makes it a bit more
challenging. So when you go toa city like Austin, it's like we
basically have to rent a car witha car seat in order for us to
be able to go places. Soit makes cities that aren't walkable without good
public transit or comfortable public transit alittle bit more challenging for us. Like

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being in Japan was so easy becausetheir public transit is super nice, it's
affordable, it's super easy to getaround, it's super child friendly, it's
safe. You know, there's allthe things that make it a little easier,
and you know, we have noissues renting a car, but it's
just something you consider when you're travelingbecause it's a huge added expense. It's
not just as easy for us thesedays to just like, oh, we're

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going to go for dinner, let'sjust like grab an uber for like fifteen
minutes or whatever. Yeah, forme, I don't necessarily think it's kind
of a question of like public transit. I think it's more just like the
structural part of the city where it'slike things are really far apart and the
way the city is like when youdo even when like having the rental car,
jumping in the car. It's notthe most pleasant driving. And the

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other part of it is like whenyou do get out and you're like,
hey, I'm going to walk tothis thing, it's like fifteen minutes from
here, Like there's no sidewalks,there's sketchy things happening around, and I
think there's really cool spaces, butthe spaces are all disconnected. It seems
like, right there's like, oh, this cool like food truck, beer
growing a thing, and there's likethis cool park space, but it's all

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separated and it all requires driving onthe interstate. So any fund thoughts on
us all that to say, who, we love Austin, but not like
our top travel experience. I thinkwe like it for some reasons but maybe
not others. Yeah, and inbetween May and kind of the middle of
summer, we were fairly stable here. I think one of the really cool

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things about kind of planting our flaghere has been when you become when you're
kind of more sturdy in one spot, other people come to visit you.
So, especially through like the firsthalf of this year, I feel like
had lots of travel friends here andaround Cadetano. Yeah, absolutely, we
had your family down here, whichI guess doesn't count as travel friends.

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We had our friends mit Co andSarah who have been on the podcast.
They were actually on the show thisyear come and visit. Sasha and Rachel,
who you guys know from the show. They were down here to visit,
which was really nice to see them. They hadn't met Lou before.
And then we also had our friendVina who we met in Panama and then
she stayed in Panama and then wentback to New Zealand and then onwards to

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Australia. She was actually in Mexico, so really fun to catch up with
her after I guess like three yearsof not seeing each other. So we
had a really good stretch kind ofthis spring where we got to see some
good friends and catch up with family, which was really nice. And I
think, like you said, isone of the benefits I think of having
a home base is like people knowyou're there, so they can plan trips

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well in advance and it's not likewhere are you going to be in six
months and we're like, oh,we don't know, maybe here, maybe
here. So I feel like thatwas really cool to like show some people
around. We went to San Miguelwith Vina, which was really fun.
It's always fun to like get outof the city and show people kind of
the surrounding area. So yeah,I definitely enjoyed that aspect of things.

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And also I think if you've kindof following along with this timeline, it's
like we had these kind of breaksin between our kind of bigger trips,
which was really nice. So wehad a couple months I guess mid May
to mid July when we were justhere. We did a couple of other
Mexico related trips, but I thinkwe'll just combine that at the end.
We can share a few of thenew places that we explored before we headed

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to Canada, where we spent fiveweeks, which was actually like a pretty
long trip. Yeah, it's thelongest we've been there since twenty twenty.
And yeah, overall, good timesin Canada. Anything kind of stand up
for you looking back on it.I mean, we just had some really
like fun stuff. We had areally fun friends weekend and with some of

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my best girlfriends. We had likea really balanced time between where your parents
live where my parents live. Wejust got to catch up with lots of
friends. We ate lots of likeour favorite Canadian foods. Drink lots of
Caesars, drink lots of good wine. We eat a lot of wings,
nachos. We've kind of figured outthat when we go back to Canada we

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sort of like like pub food.Is that the case, like good burgers,
good chicken, wings, good nachos. I do feel like one thing
that does stand out to me outsideof just like really enjoying some family and
friend time was just inflation is hithard in Canada. Canada is expensive these
days, like the prices. Ifelt this in Austin too, but it's
like going to Austin, I expectto have some sticker shock coming from Mexico.

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Canada I feel like has always felta little less to me, and
I feel like this year I waslike whoa, especially going to the grocery
store. It's just so expensive thesedays. Yeah, definitely, I mean
put the strip that was interesting normallylike in between BC and Alberta, and
we don't have a car there anymore, so we flew, which I noticed
to get myself kind of missing likethe road trip part of being in Canada

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and driving around like good experience isflying and then yeah, good times with
friends. Always nice to spend timewith family, and I think this year
too was like the first time we'rehome last summer, but lose kind of
a bit more baby mode a yearago, and so this summer to kind
of see her like interact with things, like have her kind of exploring the

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place I grew up and going tolike the park I would go when I
was a kid. It was justkind of a cool feeling, yeah,
for sure, like there's peach treeson your parents' property, And it was
really fun to see her get intoa routine of like going out every morning
with your mom, like her instigatinglike you know, she can't say yet
like let's go pick a peach,but her signaling like Okay, it's time

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to go pick a peach. Andshe goes out and she has like a
juicy peach right from the tree,which I'm sure it was like a part
of your childhood, like every summereating peaches as they were right, or
going to pick strawberries with your dad. And we got to take her to
my parents' cabin and take her outon the boat, which is like,
you know, we've had a boatsince I was a kid, and that's
somewhere that you know, I basicallyspent my whole summers as a kid.

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So I think it's really fun tosee her interacting. Like you said,
like the difference between six months andeighteen months is like huge, and so
even having her, like we introducedher to our friends last year and our
friends' kids, but her being ableto like play with them and run around
and start to build relationships with hergrandparents and start to interact with you know,

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Canada, which is not where we'reliving right now, but it's like,
you know, she's a Canadian citizen, she's got a Canadian passport,
she's obviously got Canadian heritage through us. It's like really fun to see her
kind of start to develop that alittle bit. Yeah, definitely, any
final notes on Canada, I think, just great trip and I'm excited to
go back again next year. Yeah. I think one thing I'm thinking about

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with it is like, there's theseother places I'd like to go in Canada.
And it's kind of a pickle.I think lots of like digital nomads
experience this where it's like you wantyou kind of want to like, oh,
there's places I'd like to go inmy home country. But it doesn't
really like work out to go therea lot of the time because you live
out of the country for so muchof the year, and especially somewhere like

(31:26):
Canada where it's like gigantic, Soyou know, if you're like I want
to go visit like Pi and thenfly like five hours back to where my
parents are. But yeah, maybetrying to figure out a way to go
somewhere else in Canada in the future. I think we also get hit with
like there's a lot of I mean, this is probably why we haven't been
to Europe and like nearing on adecade for both of us is because you

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know, I guess spring and fallare both beautiful times for Europe, so
we could certainly do that. ButI feel like summer is such a popular
time to go to Europe, butfor us, as we've lived out of
the country, it's been like allof our summers are just going back to
Canada because that's the most ideal timeto go. So yeah, I think
we're definitely playing around with like dowe go at a different time of year?

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Do we want to introduce lou toproper winter, get her some snow?
Do we want to do that?You know what do we kind of
do? But I do really lovethis, like going back to Canada for
at least part of the summer.And we were talking about this before,
like I thought you were going tosay when we're like, could we explore
somewhere that you wanted to go upto the Yukon, which I know has
been on our list too, Butyeah, the Atlantic Provinces is summer.

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I've never been. You haven't beensince you were like a teenager, Like
would love to get out there andexplore kind of more of our home country.
But yeah, just a first worldproblem we're experiencing over here. Yeah,
definitely. I think the other thingthat we noticed and maybe learned this
trip is we kind of like todo like at least a little bit of

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like our own thing when we're home. Like in the past, you've like
gone to different cities in the mountainsand things and just traveling, especially in
the summer in Canada, prices havegotten so crazy. Like the idea of
like, hey, we're in tospend a couple of nights in bamp in
July, it's like one it's likeactually difficult to make a hotel reservation,

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and two when you have the opportunityto prices are so crazy, So I'm
trying to think of like what makessense timeline wise to maybe like maybe not
go out peak times. But yeah, next thing we did. Next big
thing was our Argentina trip. Chiefjust got home from. We were in
Argentina for just over three weeks inBarreloche and when Saturdays, we'll talk quite

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a bit more about it on thepodcast. What are your kind of like
early reflections from the trip to Argentina. Yeah, so we started planning this
trip before we went to Canada.Yeah, we must have booked it,
and I think after we had bookedour trip to Canada, I'm not sure
that we had thought that we woulddo another big trip because at that point

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it was like we'd been out ofthe country, out of Mexico for what
three and a half months, andso you know, financially, we were
like, we're not sure if thismakes sense to do this, and you
know, doesn't make sense in general. Do we want to do it?
If so, where would we go? Et cetera, et cetera. But
we had a lot of friends goto Argentina last year and just talk about

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how with like the insane inflation,they have with their with their dollar right
now, it's like, you know, very economic if you can come in
with us dollars. And we justwatched trends enjoy a country that we really
loved on that backpacking trip that wetook it back in twenty fourteen, and
kind of thought, you know what, we could save this for twenty twenty
four but if we go after louturns two, it's going to cost us,

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you know, significantly more to doso, because we're going to have
to pay for like an airline seatfor her. And so we just decided.
We went back and forth. Ithink this was the trip we kind
of like pondered the most, Iguess, and we kind of decided what
we wanted was like the experience ofyou know, great air quality, clean
water, beautiful nature, being outside, which we got in Canada, but

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without like the family and friend obligations, which maybe sounds bad. We love
our family and friends, but it'slike we wanted to just have the freedom
to just explore and have the prioritiesbe about the nature and stuff like that,
rather than about being home to seegrandparents and family and friends that we
only get to see, you know, once or twice a year, and

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so yeah, we ended up bookingit. We decided to go in the
beginning of spring a little bit ofshoulder season. Let's maybe talk about what
that was like. Yeah, Ithink we'll probably talk in more detail on
that episode, but I guess wemade a bit of a weather gamble wherever
you were like, hey, spring'ssupposed to be pretty nice, and just

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kind of looked at averages and didn'treally like talk to people. The talking
to people might not have helped,because it seems like we got hit with
like an unseasonally bad November. Yeah, weather was just cold, windy,
snowy, and just seemed to belike really unseasonably cold for that time of
year. Apparently it's normally quite windyand it's a change of season month and

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it's like the mountains right by theandyes, so living in camera for the
number of years, we kind ofknow what that's like. There's a randomness
to it. I think for us, maybe the takeaway from me from that
is one going somewhere during its shoulderseason is like cool. But if you're
going somewhere like a mountain trip andshoulder season, like you're kind of making

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the gamble and so having I don'tknow whether it's a backup plan or also
just like thinking that through a littlebit more like what if it's really cold,
what are the lowest lows? What'sthe worst weather that could happen in
this shoulders like, what's the worstmonth they've ever had in this month?
Prepared to deal with that, butI'm still really red. I think for

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me, the thing so I waslike great food, time with friends,
and time in nature. We didget some time in nature, good family
time. I think the food waslike a ten out of ten. The
print time was really great, thenature time like still got to see some
really beautiful stuff. I think usbeing sick was kind of the double whammy.

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Wherever we felt perfectly healthy, Idon't think the weather would have gotten
to us as much, especially inthe first like week. Yeah, so
I guess we haven't done an episode, so they don't really have context for
this. We basically arrived in Argentinaand I got sick like the next day.
I guess I said the beginning thatwe hit colds, and then you
got it like three days after me, and then Lou got it like a
week after and mine. Basically Iwas pretty much sick the entire time we

(37:44):
were in Argentina, like not supersick, but I had kind of like
a nagging cough and like nasal dripthe entire time. You know, Lou
was kind of coughing for a goodportion of it. Even you had like
a lingering cough. So I feellike we just got hit with like a
terrible fall cold virus, some badweather, and just those combined made it

(38:04):
challenging. But I would agree withyou. I don't regret it either.
I think we still had a reallygood time. It's like Baroloche is beautiful
and we'd booked an airbnb right onthe lake. We had beautiful views,
so like, even when it wasfreezing and windy and we weren't able to
go outside and the maybe the waythat we had wanted to or hoped for,
we were still able to like enjoythe space. And I feel like

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we did a lot of cool stuffconsidering the circumstances, which I think we'll
share more about when we do ouractual Baroloche episode. Yeah, and I
think that's a really unique time tobe there. Hopefully things in Argentina will
start to improve, and the partof like the equation as a traveler,
it's like, Oh, we cango to this place and things are really

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affordable. It is because like salarieshave been depressed so far there, so
hopefully things will kind of change andnormalize there, which will make it less
cheap for international travelers but a lotbetter for the Argentinian people. And there's
a place I think I want toget back to and spend more time.
And so we spent the majority ofour time in Baro Looche, but then

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we spent American Thanksgiving in Buenos Aires. So we got four days there,
which was really great. I thinkone was just like beautiful war The weather
was way way better. We werelike unthawing ourselves there, which was so
nice. And yeah, I gota taste of the city. I think
we're both realizing, like now thatwe're traveling as a family, we like

(39:31):
being in cities. I love goingto Mexico City, but like for a
couple of days and then getting outof there. Similar vies with Buenos Aires,
where it's like big, chaotic,crazy, tons of cool stuff,
walkable, but when you're on thestreet you're kind of feeling a little bit
anxious just because there's so much cars, traffic and aalize people and you're trying

(39:52):
to like push around a stroller orlike hold on to a toddler's hand because
she refuses to go in her stroller, which we experienced quite a bit in
Buenos Aidis. And that's like,you know, I love BA and I
was a bit anxious about going therewith lou just because I wasn't sure how
things were with like the economy andstuff like that. But it was actually
like pretty great being there. Veryclean, you know, everything seems very

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organized. I think it's you know, maybe even nicer than Mexico City in
a lot of ways. That hasa lot of similarities to Mexico City.
But you know, we have afeisty almost two year old who wanted to
take the city on on her own, and it's just like stressful because she
doesn't understand that like, hey,we got to stop at the crosswalk and

(40:37):
we gotta wait, we got tolook both directions, and of course she
needs to learn that, but itis an extra like stressor for us.
I feel like being in a likea little town like bar Looche feels a
little more family friendly in this chapterof life than BA. But I'm so
glad that we did go. Itwas really fun to catch up with friends
and Thanksgiving was fun. It wasfun to be back after so many years.
We stayed really close to where wedid back in twenty fourteen. So

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I feel like I would like whenwe go back to Argentina. It's not
like if it's when, because Iknow we're both keen to get back there
and spend more time and some othercities. Maybe do barrel Ja in this
summer so we can hike a bitmore. But yeah, I would love
to go back to Bea and justcontinue to explore that city too. Yeah,
I think I definitely sparked something tome of wanting to explore more that

(41:22):
part of the world. Like wehad such a good time traveling in Patagonia
and Chile and Argentina. It's beenlike nine years now and so it feels
like a place I'd love to spendtime, especially with kids for the natural
part of it. So really excitedto get back. We flew BA Santiago,
Mexico City Cadetro, which is avery long travel day to get home.

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But yeah, settled in here forthe rest of the year. Really
happy to be back. This year, we did get around Mexico a little
bit. Do you want to talkabout the places we visited in Mexico.
Yeah, So we talked about PVand we talked about San Miguel already,
but a couple of new places thatwe hadn't been before was Tallan Tango,
which is in the state of Idalgo. You guys, if you follow like

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any Instagram accounts that kind of postabout, like kind of off the beaten
path things to do in Mexico,may have seen these or like these beautiful
built in the side of a mountain, like warm I guess hot pools like
Aguas Calientes hot springs there. Everythingis like very cream colored, these round

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pools and they've got these beautiful likeaquamarine pools, and so we've wanted to
go for a while. It's aboutthree hours from where we live, but
we'd heard it was insane on weekends, and so one of the perks about
you having American holidays off, sinceyou're primarily working with an American based company,
is that we can take vacations orholidays on days that Mexicans don't have

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them off. So we actually wentfor Memorial Day, I think it was,
and it was so fun because wegot there, we had one of
the pools all to ourselves, whichwas perfect because Luke could splash around and
play, and we just you know, headed off like early in the morning
and then got there, spent acouple of hours exploring there, and then
we went back in the after hadyou know, some food, and went

(43:14):
back home in the afternoon. SoI feel like, while a long day
of travel, fortunately we have achild that travels really well in her car
seat, she was able to sleepa little bit, and I feel like
it was like a really fun,you know, use of like a long
weekend day. Yeah, and Ithink we're definitely getting more comfortable traveling around
Mexico, so like those little tripsI think are really enjoyable. I think

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too, I don't know if it'sgoing to get like better or worse as
Luke gets a little bit older,she'd be kin to become more impatient,
but she's also more able to engagewith stuff in the car, so it'll
be interesting to see if she islike a better or worse road tripper over
the next year. Yeah, fingerscrossed that she either stays the same or

(43:59):
gets better. But she's great,so I'd be happy if she just stayed
the same, but I mean shewas getting bigger, she's getting more active,
so who knows, but we definitelytook advantage of road trips this year.
The other place we went was Kalitla. It's spelt with an X,
so kind of looks like I don'tknow Shlitla or I Shalita, but I
think it's pronounced Hilitla. And thatis about five five and a half hours

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from where we live. So weactually went for the July fourth long weekend.
We left on a Saturday to dothe drive. We stopped part way
through to do a hike, whichwas a really nice way to kind of
break up that long drive, especiallywith lou And then we spent what all
day Saturday, and then Sunday wecame home, so that we had the

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Monday, or we came back onthe Monday and had the Tuesday off something
like that. We were there fora couple of nights, and the main
reason that we went there is becausethey have a kind of semi famous,
pretty famous if you're in Mexico surrealistgarden. It is super super cool,
beautiful, and so that was kindof the main highlight there. It's also
just set in this very green,lush valley. There's lots of waterfalls and

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rivers and hiking around there that youcan do, so that's also an attraction.
But in terms of the town itself, like it's a cute little they
call them like magic towns here,Pueblos Maxicos. It's a beautiful place to
go, but this Screelist Garden isdefinitely like the top kind of attraction for
people and the reason that we went. Yeah, yeah, it's a cool

(45:28):
place. And also just like anice drive from here. It's not too
far, but you can stop alongthe way. There's some good hikes and
also Halpen, where we've been before, is on the way, so cool
city. You could definitely build itinto a road trip with Kadetro. It's
also part of one time we hada longer trip plant that was going to
go up from there and to SandlesPotosi go to a bunch of waterfalls.

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That's still something we want to dobut need to figure out a time for.
And then other than that, wedid some stuff a little bit closer
to home. We took a tripto Ahihik, which is just outside of
Lajara. Maybe not actually not thatclose town, and we went to mineral
To Posos, which is a cityin Guanajuato quite close to put an hour
away. People kind of talk aboutit like it's like a Sam Miguel was

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like forty years ago in kind ofa way of like they're projecting, like
it'll become something in the future.So it's a beautiful little small town.
And then there's lots of cool stuffaround. Yeah, we went there and
we went to a lavender farm,which was kind of a fun activity to
do with lou Again, we wenton a American holiday where you had workoff,
so there was literally nobody other thanthe people who worked at the farm

(46:36):
there, and so we were ableto get some really great photos with the
lavender and weu just like ran throughthe fields and had a good time.
I feel like there there's not likea ton to do out there. There's
some nice restaurants and stuff like that, but I'm curious to just see how
it continues to develop and stuff aspeople, I guess move out of the
cities and into that area. ButI feel like that was really nice.

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And then, like you said,we did a weekend in ahi Heik.
We actually visited our friends Jake andMichelle Schamp and their kids. We saw
them in Colombia and then they wereback in Mexico for a couple of months,
and so we went out there andwe had a really nice weekend with
them. We were able to eatsome great food. We actually went to
like a goat farm, which waslike a super fun activity with the kids.

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And we hadn't been to Ahi Heeksince twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
I think twenty eighteen, right,yeah, maybe, and so it was
really fun to just be out thereagain because it had been so long.
We hadn't been there since the lasttime we visited Jake and Michelle when their
kids were in school there. Sofun to be there, and then their
kids are well, two of theirthree kids are older, and then the

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other one is similar h to louSo it's fun to go somewhere where you
got built in babysitters. Definitely,yeah, And so I think there's still
lots of stuff we want to doin Mexico this year ahead. We'll talk
a little bit more in a secas we look forward, but we have
the school to go to every statein Mexico, which is definitely going to
require a little bit more intentionality goingforward, and I think doing that sound

(48:07):
loose. Potosi trip is definitely onour radar. Still going to Vera Cruz
and exploring some things there is onour radar. I think we were both
feeling a bit like, oh,we could do a Mexico city trip sometime
soon. So yeah, still lotsof stuff we want to do and explore
here in Mexico, yeah, forsure. And then so looking ahead to
twenty twenty four, we don't havea lot planned so far. So we

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are going to be going on afamily trip to Hawaii, leaving early in
the new year, so again escapingcadetto coldness in January, which I'm super
grateful for after having your last tripbe pretty chilly, and then come back
to Chile season here, I'm reallyexcited for some beach time, some family
time. And then we also havea trip planned also a family to Cabo,

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which we've never been to, solooking forward to checking out Cabo.
We're going to check off another Mexicanstate, which, like you, that
is a goal of ours. Andthen we're in the process of planning the
rest of twenty twenty four. Goingto Japan again is on our radar,
not gonna lie. Going back toCanada at some point is on our radar,
and then you know, we justhave to decide where else what we

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want to go and what we wantto do. But I know that they'll
be for sure some fun Mexico adventuresbecause there's lots of stuff we want to
do. Copper Canyons pretty high onmy list. We actually thought about doing
that for American Thanksgiving this year,and then we went to Argentina, So
sorry, Copper Canyon next time.Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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I feel like there's like this kindof tension we're getting into now where
it's like there's all these cool placesthat we've been to, but we've been
to them long enough ago that it'slike novel and fun to go back to
them again. Argentina is definitely likethat. Japan was definitely like that.
I feel like it's kind of likeus as people too, Like we'll go
to like a restaurant we like overtrying a new restaurant often, but the

(50:00):
tension of likes we try to likeget out and like go to Eastern Europe,
go to places we haven't been before, or do we kind of go
back to the well go back toJapan. Kind of need to figure that
out in the next year. Yeah, I think too. Like Europe,
I'm really keen to get to.There's so many places on my bucket list
over there, especially Eastern Europe.I think that's one trip we had kind

(50:21):
of planned for summer of twenty twentythat we haven't been able to recreate yet.
But the time zone is not superideal. Like you said, you
have a really great, flexible sortof setup, and you know, Argentina's
great because it's within a few hoursanywhere kind of North South America is really
functional. Asia works pretty well,but Europe is like challenging, so we

(50:43):
need to kind of figure out somethingwith that. Again, first world problems
over here. But we will definitelykeep you guys updated on what is to
come in terms of the podcast.We'll have some new episodes out in the
new year, starting with Argentina andthen hopefully some interesting guests. We didn't
release as many podcast episodes as wenormally do this year. I think I

(51:04):
counted them when we only released aboutlike fifteen new episodes. But I think,
as you guys have probably been seen, we're just releasing episodes, you
know, every other week as possible, and if it's not possible, then
we just don't release episodes. Sowe will get some episodes out as we
have good guests, as we havegood travel adventures, and we just really
appreciate you being along for the ride. Yeah, and maybe before we go,

(51:27):
should do a couple highlights and lowlights. What would you say your
food travel highlight from this year?So I think one thing that comes to
mind for me right away is justlike the sushi in Japan, Like we
ate some really really good like freshtuna and some really good tuna belly especially.
I think our first day in Tokyo, we went to the market because

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Lou woke up so early because ofjet lag, went to the fish market
and stood in line for some freshtuna, and like that is just like
the bomb dot com feel like thatstands out for me. Like steak in
Argentina was really good. We eatsome really good food there. But I
think I just love sushi so much. I would say just some of the
fish we ate in Japan was justreally really good. Yeah, I think
for me, there's a couple competing, so steaks in Argentina, specifically Alto

(52:19):
al Fuego and then Carne saria inBuenos Aires. Those meals are amazing.
I could just keep going back overand over. It wasn't the best sushi
we had, but this Kuda restaurantin Japan, which is kind of you
have an iPad, you just orderit zooms out on a belt, just
like pigging out there like as ourmaybe like our first couple days, second
date, third day in Tokyo,just like I'll have a misa, I'll

(52:43):
have an udn't I'll have more sushi. And then also the Kobe beef meal
in Kobe. I think that onewas a competing one for me too,
But I feel like the sushi isjust like a big winner because I feel
like we can get pretty good sushihere. We've got a couple of good
go to places, but I feellike, compared to Japan, it's just
like so average. Yeah, whatabout kind of best like travel experience.

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So I really liked Guaitape in Columbia. I felt like that was a really
really fun experience that we had.I loved the hotel that we stayed at.
I loved being able to like walkup the mountain and see the views.
It was super super spectacular, Iloved the snow monkey experience near Nagano.
I felt like that was like ahuge highlight to be able to like

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hike up and wait for them tocome out and then they just started rushing
down and seeing Lou's reaction was sofun. I feel like that was definitely
a highlight experience for me. Andthen in Argentina, we did a in
Barriloche. Specifically we went up achair lift and we got these incredible views
of Baroloche and Baroloche's nature just spectacularwith all the lakes and the mountains,

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and it had actually just snowed thenight before, which not a huge fan
of that, but I will saysnow on the tops of mountains just adds
like an extra kind of magic toit, and I feel like it was
just really really beautiful. And that'slike a memory that really stands out for
me. Is like I just likereally loved that moment. So I feel
like those ones for me are kindof top of mind. Yeah, I

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think for me that that snow monkeyspecifically, like the moment when they're all
running up and lose waving at themand it's just super fun. One I
was trying to think about like otherstuff. So in Japan, a lot
of hotels you can like rent asauna room. I talked about this in
one of her Japan episodes, andthe first hotel we stayed out, I
had these like beautiful sona rooms arerelatively affordable and just like a sanning and

(54:37):
jumping in the tub, and thatexperience was was pretty awesome. I'm trying
to think of what else would kindof be competing there, Like definitely maybe
just eating steak and steak kind ofof the cazas of the travel experience.
Taking the trains in Japan I thinkwas really cool. And then yeah,
I'd say like maybe road tripping aroundMexic would be some of my top ones.

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Yeah, for sure awesome. Whatwould you say, like the one
thing you're most excited about travel wisein twenty twenty four would be I'm excited
to plan some travels because we don'thave a lot on our radar so far,
so I'm excited to It's one ofour plans for when we're off during
the Christmas week is to sit downand just plan out the year a little

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bit. And at this point weoften have a little bit more travels planned,
but you know, We've just comeoff of a big trip and I
feel like we just have been gettingback into routine and so I'm just excited
to see what we decide to dowith the year. And we're not going
to share now, but we've alsogot some like fun ideas for you know,

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in the future, like not twentytwenty four, but kind of twenty
twenty five and beyond, and I'mreally excited to kind of see what we
decide to do with that. Yeah. Yeah, I think for me that
would be the case as well.It's like we've kind of gone through like
an evolution as one, like thewhole endemic situation, having too, starting

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to family travel, and I feellike this year was kind of like I
don't know, imagine like you letlike chicken out of the ten house kind
of like, ah, I'm runningaround all over the place. We're like
Columbia, Argentine, I can andwe're going everywhere. I want to do
everything, And I think we maybekind of the equivalent for this stage of
life would be like we were inAsia twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, like

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let's do it all, and nowwe're starting to think about like okay,
like what are now that we're travelingin this way, working traveling as a
family, Like, what are thethings that are really going to be like
really awesome experiences for us, forLouise and for our family, And I'm
excited to kind of like design someof that for ourselves. Yeah, absolutely
me too, So definitely more tocome with that, so stay tuned.

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Awesome as always, one of thebig things in this this year as well,
is just having so many people listeningto the podcast engaging with you guys.
Guys really appreciate the time you takeout of your days to catch up
with us. Really love connecting,so as always, send us a message
on social media, let us knowwhat your big highlights from this year.
Where for your own travels and whatare you're planning in the future, and

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if there's anything specific you'd love tohear on the podcast guest wise, definitely
let us know as well. Andhope everyone has a wonderful Christmas, beautiful
New Year, and we'll see youall in twenty twenty four. Yeah,
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