February 1, 2024 • 44 mins
We're kicking off 2024 with our first podcast episode about our trip to Argentina! We spent the month of November 2023 in Argentina and are so excited to share about our adventures. In this episode, we talk about why we decided to go to Argentina, where we went and why, and how we were preparing for this trip for an almost 2-year old toddler. We also share how our travels to Argentina went well and our first impressions of Bariloche. Enjoy!
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Hello and welcome to the World Wanderspodcast, a proud part of the Wanderbarn
podcast network. I'm Ryan, I'mAmanda, and we're your hosts. We're
a traveling couple and digital nomads,taking you on our adventures as we explore
locations, destinations, and careers.Enjoy the show. Hello and welcome to
the World Wanders podcast, and happytwenty twenty four. Yeah, we're excited
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to be back. Another year ofpodcasting, another year of adventures. But
kicking things off in twenty twenty fourwith a couple of episodes talking about our
last adventure of twenty twenty three,which we were having so much fun adventuring
that we never talked about on theshow. We kind of took an unintentional
late fall break before wrapping of theyear, yeah, which was Argentina.
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So if you follow us on socialmedia, you'll have seen some nice,
pretty landscape photos from Argentina. Butwe were there in November twenty twenty three,
second time ever going to Argentina andour second time in South America in
twenty twenty three. Yeah. Yeah, If you guys listened to our twenty
twenty three Year and Review episode,then you know we kicked off the year
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in Panama, which is Central America, and then Colombia. We spent a
couple of weeks in Median and Colombia. And if you guys have been longtime
listeners of this show, well,first of all, thanks for being here.
But if you're not, then alittle bit of our I guess travel
history is that in twenty fourteen,we took a big backpacking trip through South
America and we spent a while inArgentina. When we went there, we
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ended up doing language school in BuenosAires. We spent about two weeks there
doing a homestay, which was likethe longest we stayed anywhere I think in
the entire six months of our travels, So that was like pretty significant for
us. Yeah, and I rememberfrom that time too when we started that
trip, when you're traveling place toplay a sting at hostels, you're having
a ton of conversations about the typeof stuff that was good. You figured
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places, and then we were likeColumbia, Columbia, Columbia, Columbia,
and then when we got Argentina,it became Columbia and Argentina. So like
by the end of the trip,whenever anyone would Usk, like, oh,
what were your favorite places? Favoritecountries? Columbia and Argentina were our
favorite ones. So I think fromthat time we always wanted to go back,
but it's very far away. Itis far away, and I think
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it's just like, you know,you fast forward through so much of what
we've done, and it's like we'vedone so much exploring of Asia and then
we spent so much time in Mexicoand kind of Central America, and I
don't know, I guess maybe it'sjust the distance that's kept us away all
these years, but we just haven'tgotten back there, and so it was
really fun to go back to Argentinain a very different chapter of life.
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Like we said before, twenty fourteen, I turned twenty five on that trip,
so we're just like little backpacking babiesat that point, and you know,
on a backpacker's budget. And fromjuenas Edis, we flew to Ushuaia
and then we actually bussed all theway to Lima. That was over the
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course of like three ye ish months, so not a quick period of time,
but we did a lot of jumpingthrough Columbia or sorry, through Chile
and through Argentina to go all theway kind of up that coast and one
of the places that we went tofor what did we figure out? We
were there for like two three nights, just like a quick night. I
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did two nights there. I thinkwe got there like in a morning perhaps
and stayed the day at night,a full day a night and then left.
Yeah, that sounds about right.Was Baroloce. And Barriloce, for
those of you who aren't familiar,is in the Lake District part of Patagonia,
so it's a bit northern, Iguess northern part of Patagonia. It's
so crazy when you start looking ona map because Argentina and Chile are just
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like so long. They just goso far south and then also like quite
a bit north. So Baroloch iskind of like in the middle of Argentina
but on the Chilean border. It'syou know, got the Andes Mountains,
but also a ton of lakes.And this was an area, like we
said, we went for just acouple of nights, but we really fell
in love with it. I feellike we were like, we have to
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come back, we have to spendmore time here. And so finally twenty
twenty three was the year and maybelet's talk a little bit about why Argentina
for our last trip. We werejust doing some reflections on twenty twenty three
in goals, and this isn't anew country for us, and we haven't
been to a new country for awhile now, and I think we're at
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this sort of strange point where there'sso many places that we haven't been for
so long that we're going back inthis new chapter of life. So it
feels new in a lot of ways, but it's not, you know,
not new technically, And so maybewe can talk about because this idea started
blossoming I guess in maybe June.Yeah, I don't remember exactly when it
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was, but I think for bothof us, we were kind of after
being so much time in Mexico,kind of craving a change of pace and
maybe something that was like a littlebit different than like the stuff we'd had
experienced in the past couple of years, especially like time and nature, I
think was a big idea. Andthen we'd also have been seeing a whole
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bunch of friends in Argentina over thepast two years, and that was definitely
creating some danas to go eat steakand drink wine and explore. Yeah,
and it's also I mean things havechanged. Things changed while we were in
Argentina. There was actually an electionwhile we were there, and the government
has gone through a pretty significant change. You know, since then, there's
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a new president in office who's makingsome big changes to the country. But
you know, prior to this change, and I think even now, it's
a very interesting time in Argentina's historyto go. But I feel like we
went at a really unique time andI think we had, like you said,
so many friends go probably maybe endof twenty twenty two through the beginning
of twenty twenty three. And youknow, of course, Argentina is a
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beautiful country in so many ways,and they have an amazing culture. They
speak Spanish, which is great forus. They have amazing food, which
we will obviously talk about. Butalso they were going through this extreme inflation
with their currency, which we experiencedon a very very very small scale when
we were there in twenty fourteen.Like kind of I think the start of
this change, your money usd onthe street and get a better rate,
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and then it just kind of hasblown up over the last decade. And
so it's really advantageous time if youcan enter the country in with US dollars
and change to make your dollars goa long way. Now, I'm not
saying that this is necessarily a goodthing in general. I think that,
you know, obviously the people wholive there and the nationals, you know,
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deserve to have a good life.But as a foreigner, very very
interesting time to go and visit,and we were kind of like, huh,
maybe we should go. We couldgo eat and drink for very little
amounts of money. We just sawfriends. Yeah, two dollars steaks and
one dollar glass of wine and ohnice stress rut in Buenos Aires, and
I spent thirty dollars and you're like, what, we could save money by
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going to Argentina. That's kind ofabsurd since we do live in Mexico.
Yeah. Yeah. The kind oflike super short version is due to a
whole bunch of import and export restrictions, some price fixing on certain things.
And then during the pandemic, especiallyjust like a really intense money printing,
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the value of the currency has gonedown a ton, and just if you
have you're not if you have USdollars, it's become more and more affordable.
I remember when we were there.I was trying to think back to
twenty fourteen, because Argentina definitely wasn'tcheap. I remember coming from Brazil and
feeling like, oh, this stuffhere is better and it's more affordable than
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it was in Brazil. I thinkit was more affordable than Uruguay, which
is where we came from before that. But no, it wasn't I mean
compared to being in like Columbia,Ecuador, and I think we followed Chile
and Argentina with Bolivia, which wassignificantly cheaper at the time. I'm not
sure now I think it was kindof in the middle. Yeah, yeah,
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and so but but yeah, priceshave definitely made it attractive, I
think too, just like we lovewhere we're at in Mexico, but lakes
and mountains and hiking, it's stuffwe like as well, that we really
like and we haven't had as muchand even like when we're back in Canada
now, because we're doing so muchvisiting with family and then balancing that with
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working, we haven't really had thetime to get out and enjoy it.
And the other thing with Canada toois kind of at the start of our
no My journey, we'd spend likefour months in the mountains in the summer.
The last couple of times going backfor a few weeks, the prices
in Canada have gone insane. Sowhen you're looking at, hey, we're
going to go spend night or acouple of nights in the mountains, it's
kind of like, well, we'drather just like do an entire trip to
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Argentina than book like a three nightshotel stay in Bam. Yeah. No,
absolutely, it's just really become kindof crazy. And so yeah,
those are kind of in our intentaround that, and so we decided to
look into it a little bit moreand do a little bit more research,
and I think we were both alittle bit back and forth on it,
and I think the thought process was, we've already traveled a lot this year.
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Is it a responsible use of ourmoney and our time to do another
big trip this year? And thenwe kind of thought, Okay, if
we don't do it in the fall, when are we going to do it?
And it was going to fall afterLou's second birthday, which will happen
in February. We weren't going tobe able to go in January because we
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already have some travel plans in January, and so we were kind of like,
well, why don't we go now, Because for those of you who
don't have kids, or don't havefriends with kids, you have to pay
for their own seat once they turnedtwo, So it was pretty advantageous for
us to go in November when wecould still have her on her lap and
just play it for two seats,and so that was kind of a motivating
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factor for the time. So westarted doing a bit more research. November
is spring in Argentina, so theweather looked pretty good when we did our
research. It wasn't supposed to belike super super warm and Bariloche, but
it was supposed to be pretty likemoderate spring temperatures. And then we were
planning to head to buen Idis forThanksgiving American Thanksgiving, and the temperatures were
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looking great for that, so wewere like, okay, let's do it,
so start looking into flights well,and you know, I think we
were so the other thing. Nathanfrom Fruity Flashpacker, who's a good friend,
was planning to be there, andI think even before we were like,
oh, we want to go toArgentina, we were kind of like,
would it be cool to go tobaril Loch and then we like found
some like really nice looking airbnbs andwe're like, okay, we want to
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go to Bariloche. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.
I messaged Nathan and was like Iknew Argentina was a possibility for him in
the fall, and said what's thechances you'll be there? And he was
like I'm leaning towards that. AndI was like, okay, would you
come to Bariloche to visit? Andhe was like yeah, absolutely, and
I was like, okay, that'sa pro. And then yeah, we
started doing flight research airbnb research.We found a couple of airbnbs that we
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really liked that seemed like this wouldbe just great for the type of trip
we're looking for. And then whenwe actually started diving into flights, we
discovered that it was significantly cheaper tofly to Santiago in Chile than it was
to fly to Buenasidis and if youlook on a map, that actually makes
sense to go to Baroloche. Soy, we're like, cool, yeah,
let's do that. Let's book that. So we booked our return flights in
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and out of Cadetro through Mexico Cityand then onwards to Santiago. What ended
up happening, which was not superideal for us, is at the time
of looking, there was a directflight from Santiago to Barriloche, super affordable,
so we were going to do thatand obviously fly to Buenos Aytis and
then back to Santiago. And thenwhen it actually came to booking that,
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we discovered that November is like theonly month that they don't run that flight
pass. So then we were alittle bit like, Okay, we either
have to like take a flight andtake a bus, or we need to
fly to Buenaesytis and then back toBarolocha, which on the map really doesn't
make a lot of sense, butthat was the most like economical thing and
made the most sense with traveling withan infant, so we ended up doing
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that. So maybe we can talka little bit about our long haul flight
with a toddler before we get intolike actually being in Santiago when all of
that. Yeah, and just onereally quick thing for anyone who's thinking about
going Argentina, going to Santiago canbe a good move. It might change
though, because what happens is intoand out of Buenoesidas. There are tons
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of taxes and fees, and sowe were looking at flights that were like
thirty forty percent cheaper to go toSantiago. So worth keeping an eye on,
but definitely the sports that mere consideringbecause the flight's pretty There's a lots
of options and pretty cheap in betweenif you want to go there. I
know South Paulo is another option,but it can be worth getting to South
America and then getting your flight toArgentina. But it does seem like that's
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one of the things I might withthe new government. Yeah, for sure,
I think just doing some research andI know over I guess the last
year we've had, like we said, so many friends going and a lot
of them found really really good flightdeals, you know, to and from
Buena Sidis. So it's not thatit's not possible. It was just in
the time we were booking, goingto and from Mexico City was just not
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affordable. But once we started doingit's not that it wasn't affordable, I
guess it was just much more expensiveand so we were like, well,
we can save a bunch of moneyby just flying to Santiago, so why
don't we just do that, andso that's what we ended up doing,
and maybe we'll talk about it ifwe ever regrets or not with that in
a little bit. Yeah, Andso the it's going to be interesting for
us because the flight to Santiago fromMexico City was eight hours, right,
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Yeah, yeah, eight hours,so it's kind of like a like an
ocean crossing flight time wise, butthis was the first time we were doing
kind of a longer flight during theday. So we left really early morning,
really quick flight to Mexico City,and then we were going to be
kind of like ten am to eightpm kind of thing on on the flight.
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Yeah. Yeah, for sure.It was definitely a long flight during
the day. And if you've listenedto some of our stuff about traveling with
a baby, traveling with a toddler, you know, we talked pretty in
depth about Japan and we were obviouslyvery anxious for those flights, but flying
overnight, especially like with a smallchild, like she slept, you know,
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a good portion of the trip,but I was like, well,
she only sleeps like two maybe threehours of daytime sleep now because she's bigger,
so we need to be like superprepared. I think one of the
things that maybe was helpful with thetrip and with the time zone. So
Argentina is three hours Argentina and Chileare three hours ahead of Mexico, so
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I guess that's two hours ahead ofEastern Standard time, and so we were
going through a pretty significant time change, but here in Mexico. Because our
I think our first flight was likesix am or something like that, we
I ended up getting up at likethree. I think we got up at
three. Lou got up at threethirty, and then we left for the
airport pretty quick after she got up, and because of that, she was
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pretty snoozy in the morning, LikeI think by the time we kind of
got on our first flight, shewas like she was pretty chill. She
was like had a little snooze Ithink on that plane ride, and then
she played a little bit in MexicoCity, and then we got on the
plane for our big one and wewere able to do some activities and play
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with her a little bit before shetook like a pretty significant nap, woke
up, and then I think maybeshe slept a little bit more. So
we actually got more kind of Iguess sleep than I was sort of planning
for because we had gotten her upso early in the morning, like I
think she lost out on probably likefour hours of her normal nighttime sleep,
and so was she was tired.Which I'm not saying a tired baby.
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Tired child's a good thing. Butwhen you're traveling and you've got this natural
sort of rocking motion and natural whitenoise, I think it's it works out
pretty well. So I wanted totalk about a little bit how we prepared
for this flight because there was alittle bit of like, Eeke, this
is a long flight to entertain atoddler, and also this is the first
long haul flight that she was walkingfor, which when you are traveling with
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a child that's walking, it's abit of a game changer. Like I
feel like it switches once they startcrawling, and then once they start pulling
themselves up and kind of toddling fromplace to place, which is what she
was doing with Japan, it changesagain. But then walking is like a
whole thing because she can get herselfup and down the seat, she can
just take off, she can justgo running if she wants to, Like
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she's pretty independent now. And soI guess let's talk a little bit about
some of the things that we didto prepare for this flight. Yeah,
So one of the kind of newthings we did for this flight was we
got her a little travel backpack andso she was able to put some for
her favorite toys in it and carryit and kind of be responsible for that
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herself. And it was cool thestrip as well, because she's walking so
confidently, so she was actually ableto board and get off the planes walking.
Not all of them, but mostof them. She did walk on
and walk off of the planes.And then we kind of have some like
tried and true staples, like thethings that stick to the window and spin,
and then like the iPad as theemergency break break glass in case of
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our emergency entertainment option. Yeah,and one of the notes I made with
that is YouTube Premium, So ifyou have a Netflix account, then you
can download shows offline on an iPad, which is really helpful. I think
that there's probably parents out there withbigger kids who have really good like games
and programs and stuff when they're moreindependent. She's still not super independent with
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her device or with the device it'sours, So we actually splurge for YouTube
Premium, which is shockingly expensive.I'm just going to throw it out there,
like it's worth it to have allthe time. But you can download
things like you know, Miss Rachelfor those of you with small kids,
you know, and we also havea Spanish equivalent to Miss Rachel. So
just downloading like a couple of littlethirty minute episodes. I don't think we
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use them. I think a littlebit maybe during like meal times or times
where we just needed a little breakfrom entertaining. But like Grian said,
we had her backpack, which wasreally fun, so she was able to,
you know, pack the toy shewanted and then she was able to
like choose from the backpack which toyshe wanted to play with, and when
it is a pretty small backpack,so I did pack her some other stuff
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separately. So we did do reusablesticker books. That was a really really
fun toy that she loved. SoI think if you've got a kid kind
of between eighteen months and I wouldsay, I don't know when she's going
to get bored of this. Butwe had our friend's kid over the other
day who is almost three, andhe had a great time with one of
her sticker books. So eighteen monthsplus the reusable sticker book are super fun.
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I bought three of them for her, and none of them she'd used
before, so we were able tokind of make our way through one at
a time. She is able totake the stickers off herself, but sometimes
she asks for help and then shecan move them around and stuff and just
play a bit independently, which isgreat. We also, of course had
books for her, like tons ofbooks. We always have books. Like
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you said, the stick on tothe window are always great. You can
like stick those on and then they'lljust like play with them for ages.
And then we also had snacks.I feel like snacks are just super key,
and when we did our episode ontraveling with zero to twelve months,
I feel like that's really one ofthe things that changes when they stop relying
on milk, is like snacks aresuper super key. So I think I
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packed like I packed snacks for usas well, but Lou's snack bag was
like way bigger than like or likemaybe the same size as our combined snack
bags, which is crazy because she'lljust be like snacks, snacks, snacks
next. So just kind of aswe got on the plane, letting her
discover her space, and she reallylikes to play with the like the barf
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bag and the safety car, andshe likes to look out the windows we're
doing things, and then we likegive her the backpack she starts playing with
that kind of let her do herthing, and then we only use the
iPad when she got kind of likeshe did have a moment I think maybe
before she napped or maybe when shewoke up, and she had a lot
of energy where she really wanted torun around, and so after we had
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done sufficient running in the airplane,we were like, Okay, let's just
have a little bit of TV timeso we can just take a little break.
But yeah, and she didn't endup. There was a panda documentary
on Aero Mexico that we washed andshe kept yelling Panda, Panda, Panda.
Yeah, she's very into pandas fora long time. But it's something
that was cool about the flight iswe got seats right at the front of
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our section, so by the areaby the washrooms, which are kind of
seats where you're like, I don'treally want to be by the washing but
it's nice because you could just getup and there was like a walkway in
between the two aisles because it wasa Dreamliner, so three seats, three
seats, three seats, and themain body of the plane and then she
could just kind of like walk aroundin there, and so we spent a
decent amount of time doing that.It was weird because it was a newer
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Dreamliner and so they do the thingwhere they like turn all the windows tonight
even though it was during the day, which I was find being kind of
disorienting. Yeah, it was likemy eyes hurt from all the bright lights
from all the screens because everyone's watchingTV because it's daytime, but they made
it seem like it's dark in there. Yeah, I do feel like the
pro of that is I do feellike, like I said before, she
did sleep a little more than maybeI would have expected her to. She
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doesn't normally take like super super longnaps on planes. That hasn't been like
she's more of like a snoozer onplanes versus at home. She takes like
one really solid nap and she sleptpretty solidly. So I'll say I'll say
that it being dark was a wasa win overall, since she's like too
little for an eyemask and st stufflike that. But yeah, it was
very disorienting. Even when I thinkback to it, I'm like, did
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we travel at night? Because everythingwas dark and then you go to the
bathroom and it's like the window inthe bathroom's like the one window where you
can see out, and you're like, oh right, it's like two pm
right now and it's like right outside. Yeah, but it was honestly,
like a not bad. I kindof enjoyed that time frame on the plane,
like it's so much nicer than likeI feel like in my mind,
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I'm kind of like, well,eight hours, thirteen hours is a really
that much of a difference, Andyou can definitely feel the extra five six
hours to go to Asia versus togoing to Santiago. In this case,
I think it's like two hours moreto go to Argentina one two hours.
But yeah, overall, pretty smoothflying. And I think one thing I'm
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excited about the next time we kindof have a big flight day. Loosens
to be engaging so much more withher books over the past two months,
and so I'm hopeful that like she'llbe able to be entertained with books on
the next flight, Yeah, forsure. And I think one thing that's
like I mean, it's really justfun to watch her development in general.
But I feel like one thing that'sreally fun about the stage of development.
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You know, she's almost two,she's like starting to become more independent with
her play. So her play upuntil now, what she has done for
play has been very much like she'sneeded kind of somebody to play with her
or to like instigate the play,I guess, And now she's really great
about like, hey, we're bothin the kitchen. She doesn't want to
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be in the kitchen. She justgoes to her play area and grabs a
book, sits on the couch andis like blah blah blah blah blah,
like telling herself a little story,or she like goes and just plays with
her toys. It's not long periodsof time that she's doing it for because
she's still little, but we're startingto get more of that, which I'm
excited to see how that translates ontoflights and like, especially as she gets
her own seat in her own space, she'll start kind of finding, you
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know, the things that she likesto do on a travel day, which
I think will be really cool.I know we're a little ways off from
that, but I think it'll bepretty cool. But yeah, she was
amazing and she did great. Theday was pretty long. Like I said,
we left our house at like threepoint thirty in the morning, we
got to the Santiago airport at likeeight or nine pm. And then one
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of the things that I think wehadn't really thought through when we first booked
the flight was that Chile has prettyintense like immigration and customs. And so
obviously every country is immigration and customsthat you have to go through, but
Chile is like very strict on likefruits and vegetables and foods and all these
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things. And so while it waspretty I would say speedy and smooth overall,
there wasn't a lot of people inthe airport when we went and stuff.
It just like takes a little bitof time because you have to go
through that entire process and they screeneveryone's bags and all that type of stuff.
And so by the time we likegot out of the airport and got
a taxi to our hotel which wasonly like five minutes away and checked in,
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I feel like it was like whatI mean, it was at least
two hours before we go to ourhotel room. Yeah, it was about
two from landing in the plane gettingour bags, and it was one of
those things to where we had togo through customer, go through immigration,
wait a really long time for thebegs to come get your bag, and
then get through like a screening whetherlike do you have apples in there,
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which is definitely as a traveler,one of those things that makes you annoyed.
And then yeah, we kind ofI feel like on this trip down
to Barledje had a couple of mistakesor not mistakes really, but like just
things that travel lessons that probably shouldhave learned by now. So in Santiago,
one was just kind of assuming thatthe hotel shuttles would be like available
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there and not that you had tolike check with the hotel and it was
like, oh, we sent someoneto get you. And the other one
was our flight into Barreloche had beenchanged time wise, so we were going
to be arriving a couple hours later, which led to our rental car being
canceled. Yeah, which maybe wecan talk about that when we get there,
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but yeah, I feel like itwas like, yeah, we knew
we booked with who are we stayingwith holiday? I think it was Hilton
Garden oh yeah, Hilton Garden In. So through our MX we get we're
like Hilton Gold members, like it'sthis free breakfast. So we're like,
let's do the Hilton Garden in atthe airport. It's really close. Says
they have a shuttle. I nevercontacted them. We get there, nobody
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knows where it is, and thenit turns out it runs like once on
the hour, and I think itwas like ten thirty or ten twenty five
or something. So then we're like, okay, well we need to We
don't have any cell phone data,we don't have any Chilean cash, like
just to missus by us, andso we're like, we just got to
pay for a cab. The firstone quotes us like this insanely high rate
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for like a five minute drive.I think it was gonna be like fifty
dollars. I was like, let'sfind a cheaper one. So we found
one that was maybe half the price, still outrageous for how far we were
going, but we're like whatever,it's late, like loose tired, we're
tired. We just need to likeget to this hotel. And so yeah,
then we like asked when we gotthere, and they're like yeah,
we just run like every hour onthe hour, and so we're like,
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okay, let's book it for tomorrowmorning. Let's not pay for another cab,
let's just make this happen. Andthen the other mistake we made so
the day before we left. Thankfullyyou look this up, you realize that
Chile and Argentina have different plugins thanwe do in Mexico. Mexico is the
same as Canada in the US.And you ordered like just like uber rappid
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quickly like some converters. So theconverter works, Ryan plugs it in and
then plugs in something else. Itlike sparks and like causes like an odage
of like shorts the circuit basically,and we're like, oh crap. And
so thankfully the hotel had like converters. It must be a common thing that
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people just don't think about this ordon't bring them or whatever. Chi lose
is very strange, and so wewere able to borrow them. But I
was like, man, it's likewe've never traveled before, Like we just
had a couple misses with that,and maybe that's like us just being like
like I had like the perfect setupof snacks and perfect organization of lose outfits
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and extra outfits and like you know, diapers and all those things. So
maybe it was just like that wasthe focus, and then we just kind
of forgot like basic things like well, our cell phones work in Chile and
like should I contact the hotel beforehand? And yeah, all these things.
So it was like a little bitof a I think a little bit stressful
when we got there. Yeah,yeah, for sure. And yeah,
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so we turned around, spent aquick night in Santiago or back of the
airport relatively early the next morning,and then flew Santiago to the older airport
and went aside is there's one that'sfar away from the city. It's called
Easy and it's like the most commonand biggest one, And there's AEP which
is aero Parque, and we weregoing through Aeroparque. One of the kind
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of really nice things about Chile andArgentina that we didn't know about that we
found out when we were there isthey really do a lot to make it
easy to travel as parents. Sobasically all the airports have separate checking encounters,
separate security lines, and separate customsand immigrations for priority passengers sorry for
like disabled passengers, parents, pregnantwomen, anything like that. So parents
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with kids under six count in likeall of those priority lines, which was
really really nice for the entire thing. And honestly, it's like when you
leave that, you're just like,you need can move somewhere where this is
the case. Yeah, we gotback to Mexico. Mexico City was just
a complete and utter fluster cook.Yeah, it was not good, which
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we can talk about that another timebecause it's many weeks in the future from
where we are in the story rightnow. But it was crazy and I
was like, I'm really missing thisfamily priority. But it was really nice
because we got to the Santiago airportand the like Pan American Games were finishing
up and so it was just likeathletes from every country everywhere. Argentinian Airlines
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is like super busy, so there'sjust like this huge, massive line and
like, we did have enough time. We budgeted plenty of time, so
it's not like we were rushed oranything. But part of the reason that
a lot of places give families privilegeto have a separate liner to go first
is because it's really hard to occupya running toddler while you're waiting in a
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very slow line. So if we'removing, she's okay in her stroller.
If we're just like stop and go, she wants out. And then she
doesn't just want to stand there,she wants to like explore, which is
not super ideal when you're in aline. So we were kind of doing
our best to the line with snacksand toys and stuff. And then like
one of the people who was workingwith the airline actually pulled us ahead,
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which was really we were really reallygrateful. And then the Santiago airport was
chill, it was nice, everythingwas good. Then we got to Buenos
Aidis and we had to go throughcustoms and immigration again. So I feel
like this is where kind of whenyou think about, like you know,
the taxi and the night in thehotel and like just having to do customs
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and immigration two days back to back, I was like, maybe we should
have just gone right to Buenos Aidisand then stayed there and then gone to
Bariloja. But anyways, say,Lavi just something to consider based on you
and your trip planning. If you'reconsidering this one thing in Chile, you
don't have to go through customs ifyou're on a connecting flight, but because
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we booked two separate flights. Yeah, so that was another thing. Yeah,
in and out we booked two separateflights. So yeah. Then we
got into Argentina and we had todo all of that again and it was
kind of weird. We were like, so, where's like domestic now,
and we had to actually like walkout of the airport. Even though we
had a flight. We'd booked oneset of flights from Santiago through to Baroloche,
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we still had to like get ourbags, go through customs, go
through immigration, walk outside the airport, go into like a separate area of
the air of the airport, recheckour bags. So we get into domestic
and it's like an absolute crazy madhouse. It was like a Saturday. We
found out it was a long weekend, which we didn't know about, and
we were like, oh my god, this is actually insane. And then
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somebody was like, oh, youhave a kid, you can just go
in like the priority lineup, andI was like, oh, thank all
the gods of the world. Andso it was actually pretty smooth. So
yeah. Then we arrived to Barolocheand like Ryan said before, I think
our flight had been changed and Ihad not updated budget who were renting our
car through, and he's like,oh, you were supposed to be here
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like four hours ago. It's markedas a no show. And I'm like,
crap, we needed a car seatand we can't drive a manual car,
you know, Can we still geta car? And he's like,
yeah, I think I've got somethingsimilar, And thankfully it wasn't. It
didn't cost us much more to dothat, but definitely a good learning experience.
So if you have a rental carand your flight gets changed, update
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your rental car company. Maybe that'slike common knowledge. Excuse me, it's
not something I thought about. Yeah, And so yeah, we got into
Barreloche, we got our course carsorted. I felt like it had been
a very long travel session to getthere, but we got there and the
day was beautiful, got in thecar and headed off to our airbnb.
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The Barrelocha airport's relatively close and it'sa decent sized airport, actually, like
they're When we came back and we'rein the other area, it was like,
oh, let's tack big Masamainos forlike how small Barreloach is. I
think the airport is a surprising Satzfor sure, and you can fly internationally
there, I think from Santiago everymonth about November, and saw Paulo and
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then a few other cities in Argentinafly directly there. So that was one
I think one of the considerations ofmaybe making Santiago more worth it was there
was a discount flight direct from Santiago, which is actually a shorter flight than
it is from Buenos Aida. Isbecause Baroloche is really close to Chile,
and I think that might have madeus think, like, like, if
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we'd taken that flight, I thinkI would have been like, Okay,
I think it was worth it todo the Chili thing. Yeah, because
I think customs and immigration in Barilochewould have been much different than going through
Buena Sidis, Yeah, and havingto then go we check in and da
da da da da, and theairport was wait another. It probably ended
up taking like four or five hoursmore because we flew to go through security
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twice fly to be a fly outanyways. Yeah, but I think overall,
like considering flew Cadetro Mexico City,Mexico City, Santiago, stayed overnight
in Santiago, then had flights fromSantiago to Ba Ba to Baroloche. The
fact that like everything was like ontime, smooth, No luggage was lost,
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nobody lost a limb, like nobodyyelled. Like it was pretty overall,
it was like pretty smooth. Itwas long, it was tiring,
we were very tired by the timewe got to Bariloche, but like everything
went really well, like looted amazingand considering it was basically two full days
of travel by the time we actuallygot to Baroloche. Yeah, and there
was a couple of things like soso the woman pulls us out of the
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big line and it's checks us inearly. Someone did the same when we
had gotten to Argentina. You werewaiting to like boor oh yeah, I
was gonna say we were waiting toa flight. They were like pas pasa.
The guy their endical company was reallyawesome and helped us out when I
could have easily seen him trying tolike kind of take advantage of the situation
to charge a lot more money.So yeah, lots of really things that
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made the day really smooth. AndI think too, I mean, it's
it's so nice as a parent havingthat with the way they have stuff set
up there in Argentine and Chile.Remember thinking too, like this must be
so frustrating for Chile and Argentinian parentswhen they go anywhere else in the world
and people are like, you havekids, don't care, get in the
back of the line, losers.Yeah, I mean it seems like other
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countries are maybe starting to follow thesuit, like we talked about Canada started
to do it, which is reallynice. I feel like I wonder about
other people if they're like, oh, like f these families. But I
actually feel like if you're somebody whomaybe doesn't want to be like have your
travel day maybe quote unquote spoiled bysmall children, I feel like it'd be
like great to just have families andkids kind of separate, right, I
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mean, especially too with like security, where like it takes just a long
time to get through security when you'vegot to collapse the stolder, hold the
kid da da da da dah.Yeah. Anyways, so yeah, relatively
smooth travels. I think looking backon it now get and how everything played
out, we would just like,hey, it's worth it to just fly
direct to BA and save the timeand everything else involved. Yeah, what
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else do you want to cover fornow? In this episode. Yeah,
so we're going to do just soyou guys know, we're going to do
a full like Barriloche episode. Ihave to talk about if we're doing Baroloche
and BA or if we're doing themist two separate ones. I'm not sure
yet, but I thought maybe wecould just talk about like finally getting to
Baroloche after this epic travels and justmaybe first impressions that first day slash night.
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Yeah, so first impressions were amazing. I remember we both I don't
think we paid attention to the weatheron the day we were traveling there.
We'd kind of been following it leadingup to and the weather was like five
degrees six degrees cool, And thenwe were on the planet like they piloted
the announcement like today it's whatever degreesin the city and he was like eighteen
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degrees and Sonny and Bariloche and welike looked at each other, We're like,
ooh, and so beautiful. Firstimpression of barri loche driving and it's
like thirty minutes to the airbnb.And one of the things we were really
excited about with this time is wekind of invested in an airbnb that was
right by the lake and had abeautiful view. So getting in, we
had a really welcoming host who kindof talked us through everything, and I
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think I felt it just like superexcited to be there. Yeah, for
sure, Like so Bariloche is surroundedby mountains and it's right on this beautiful
lake with mountains, and because wewere in kind of early springtime, but
you know, the mountains were stillsnow capped, which is so beautiful.
It's just like very very very veryvery picturesque. And like Ryan said,
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we arrived with really great weather,We had a great host, our airbnb
was really beautiful. We had thisbig window looking out into the lake,
and I think we were just like, oh, this is amazing. And
then our airbnb host had given ussome great recommendations for some food, so
we headed into town and we hada really like good first meal there,
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and I think we were just reallyexcited. I think the only thing was
is I had started to feel sick. My ears were really bothering me from
the day of travel, and Iwas really tired, sort of felt like
I was maybe getting a cold,but we'll talk about that a little later
on. I think we were stilljust very excited to like explore the plaza
and see what we were remembered andjust be walking in like the fresh mountain
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air and yeah, everything was justgreat. We were super happy to be
there. Yeah, and we wentfirst night went for dinner at a brewery
called Manushe, which we would kindof end up going back to a whole
bunch of times, but had likea good pot pie. I think I
had a burger. Yeah, Ihad like a chicken pot pie for my
because my ear was doing that likeweird pain where it like kind of hurts
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into your throat but you're not sureif you have like an earache or a
sore throat. So anyways, Iwas like just wanted something kind of warm
and nourishing. I was craving kindof soup, something I didn't have to
chew, And then they had thisamazing pop pie on the menu. It
was like a dream come true.So I would definitely recommend Manush that pot
pie is worth it for sure.Yeah. And then yeah, so we'll
dive deeper on Baroloche, but Ithink our general impression was like really solid
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travel day. I definitely think aswell. So they don't do tailor savings
time in Argentina, so it's currentlythree hours ahead of Central Time. It's
not a huge time change, butyet it maybe in a long flight.
I think we got there felt prettygood, didn't feel like too jet legged
or anything. And then from likea nomad perspective, I was actually pretty
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like happy to be two hours aheadof Eastern time and just like work on
that time zone because I found itquite enjoyable. M M. Yeah,
for sure, maybe we can diveinto more of like kind of what our
routine became like in Barreloche. Butyeah, I was a bit anxious,
Like three hours is not it's notlike going to Europe or to Asia,
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but it's significant enough to like messwith your your rhythms, and so we
were a little uncertain of how Louwould manage and if she was going to
wake up at like four am andstuff. But she honestly like did really
amazing. Like I think we wereall pretty tired, so we just kind
of had you know, normal bedtimewhen we got there, and next day
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just started kick things off and gotinto our kind of new rhythm and routine
for the next three weeks. Yeah, and I guess one of the first
impression things For me, I thinkas we prepared and we're getting ready,
you know, following the news Argentinaand just the you know, inflation and
deva, like the value of theirpaso getting worse and worse and worse,
and you're there was a gasoline issuein the week's leading up. They're also
(41:37):
in the middle of kind of electionseason, so that was all going on.
So I think it created this feelingof us of like, well,
we've been here before, we havethat, and we have friends who have
been here recently, but like,what's it going to be like? Like,
you know, you hear crowns gettingworse, as people are kind of
in bad economic spots, and we'relike kind of not really sure like what
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to expect. And I think oneof the things that was from our coupled
about it was just how normal everythingwas. Everything's open, lots of people
around, everybody's happy. I'm sureeveryone's not the general value if you were
like, hey, we'll show youa picture of like a place in Mexico
and then a picture of a coupleof different places in Argentina that we visited,
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and we're like, which one ofthese is going through like an economic
crisis? You'd be like, it'sthe Mexican city, not there, Argentinian
city. Yeah. I think it'sjust hard when you're not there, you
just don't know like what things areactually like. So you're just relying on
like word of mouth and Facebook groupsand you know what people are saying and
stuff, and so, you know, this is something that we worried less
about pre traveling with a child,but when you're traveling with a small child,
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that's like, we don't want toget in a situation that could be
dangerous. And we weren't really surehow things were going to go with the
election, and you know, isthere unrest or anything, And everything was
very, very smooth. I mean, we'll talk more about just being in
Barreloj being in ba again, butI feel like everything was just really great
and I think if you were completelyoblivious to what was going on, you
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would never guess it. Yeah.Yeah, So yeah, that was the
adventure to Barriloche. We'll talk moreabout everything there. If you have or
planning a trip in the next coupleweeks or months to Argentina and have specific
questions about it, definitely fire themour way. We can include that an
episode and probably just get back toyou directly, and other than that,
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anything you want to we want totouch on before you wrap up. No,
I think we've got so much totalk about in the next episode,
so stay tuned for that. It'lldefinitely be a jam packed episode with everything
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Hello and welcome to the World Wanderspodcast, a proud part of the Wanderbarn
podcast network. I'm Ryan, I'mAmanda, and we're your hosts. We're
a traveling couple and digital nomads,taking you on our adventures as we explore
locations, destinations, and careers.Enjoy the show. Hello and welcome to
the World Wanders podcast, and happytwenty twenty four. Yeah, we're excited
(00:27):
to be back. Another year ofpodcasting, another year of adventures. But
kicking things off in twenty twenty fourwith a couple of episodes talking about our
last adventure of twenty twenty three,which we were having so much fun adventuring
that we never talked about on theshow. We kind of took an unintentional
late fall break before wrapping of theyear, yeah, which was Argentina.
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So if you follow us on socialmedia, you'll have seen some nice,
pretty landscape photos from Argentina. Butwe were there in November twenty twenty three,
second time ever going to Argentina andour second time in South America in
twenty twenty three. Yeah. Yeah, If you guys listened to our twenty
twenty three Year and Review episode,then you know we kicked off the year
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in Panama, which is Central America, and then Colombia. We spent a
couple of weeks in Median and Colombia. And if you guys have been longtime
listeners of this show, well,first of all, thanks for being here.
But if you're not, then alittle bit of our I guess travel
history is that in twenty fourteen,we took a big backpacking trip through South
America and we spent a while inArgentina. When we went there, we
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ended up doing language school in BuenosAires. We spent about two weeks there
doing a homestay, which was likethe longest we stayed anywhere I think in
the entire six months of our travels, So that was like pretty significant for
us. Yeah, and I rememberfrom that time too when we started that
trip, when you're traveling place toplay a sting at hostels, you're having
a ton of conversations about the typeof stuff that was good. You figured
(01:57):
places, and then we were likeColumbia, Columbia, Columbia, Columbia,
and then when we got Argentina,it became Columbia and Argentina. So like
by the end of the trip,whenever anyone would Usk, like, oh,
what were your favorite places? Favoritecountries? Columbia and Argentina were our
favorite ones. So I think fromthat time we always wanted to go back,
but it's very far away. Itis far away, and I think
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it's just like, you know,you fast forward through so much of what
we've done, and it's like we'vedone so much exploring of Asia and then
we spent so much time in Mexicoand kind of Central America, and I
don't know, I guess maybe it'sjust the distance that's kept us away all
these years, but we just haven'tgotten back there, and so it was
really fun to go back to Argentinain a very different chapter of life.
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Like we said before, twenty fourteen, I turned twenty five on that trip,
so we're just like little backpacking babiesat that point, and you know,
on a backpacker's budget. And fromjuenas Edis, we flew to Ushuaia
and then we actually bussed all theway to Lima. That was over the
(02:58):
course of like three ye ish months, so not a quick period of time,
but we did a lot of jumpingthrough Columbia or sorry, through Chile
and through Argentina to go all theway kind of up that coast and one
of the places that we went tofor what did we figure out? We
were there for like two three nights, just like a quick night. I
(03:19):
did two nights there. I thinkwe got there like in a morning perhaps
and stayed the day at night,a full day a night and then left.
Yeah, that sounds about right.Was Baroloce. And Barriloce, for
those of you who aren't familiar,is in the Lake District part of Patagonia,
so it's a bit northern, Iguess northern part of Patagonia. It's
so crazy when you start looking ona map because Argentina and Chile are just
(03:43):
like so long. They just goso far south and then also like quite
a bit north. So Baroloch iskind of like in the middle of Argentina
but on the Chilean border. It'syou know, got the Andes Mountains,
but also a ton of lakes.And this was an area, like we
said, we went for just acouple of nights, but we really fell
in love with it. I feellike we were like, we have to
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come back, we have to spendmore time here. And so finally twenty
twenty three was the year and maybelet's talk a little bit about why Argentina
for our last trip. We werejust doing some reflections on twenty twenty three
in goals, and this isn't anew country for us, and we haven't
been to a new country for awhile now, and I think we're at
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this sort of strange point where there'sso many places that we haven't been for
so long that we're going back inthis new chapter of life. So it
feels new in a lot of ways, but it's not, you know,
not new technically, And so maybewe can talk about because this idea started
blossoming I guess in maybe June.Yeah, I don't remember exactly when it
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was, but I think for bothof us, we were kind of after
being so much time in Mexico,kind of craving a change of pace and
maybe something that was like a littlebit different than like the stuff we'd had
experienced in the past couple of years, especially like time and nature, I
think was a big idea. Andthen we'd also have been seeing a whole
(05:09):
bunch of friends in Argentina over thepast two years, and that was definitely
creating some danas to go eat steakand drink wine and explore. Yeah,
and it's also I mean things havechanged. Things changed while we were in
Argentina. There was actually an electionwhile we were there, and the government
has gone through a pretty significant change. You know, since then, there's
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a new president in office who's makingsome big changes to the country. But
you know, prior to this change, and I think even now, it's
a very interesting time in Argentina's historyto go. But I feel like we
went at a really unique time andI think we had, like you said,
so many friends go probably maybe endof twenty twenty two through the beginning
of twenty twenty three. And youknow, of course, Argentina is a
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beautiful country in so many ways,and they have an amazing culture. They
speak Spanish, which is great forus. They have amazing food, which
we will obviously talk about. Butalso they were going through this extreme inflation
with their currency, which we experiencedon a very very very small scale when
we were there in twenty fourteen.Like kind of I think the start of
this change, your money usd onthe street and get a better rate,
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and then it just kind of hasblown up over the last decade. And
so it's really advantageous time if youcan enter the country in with US dollars
and change to make your dollars goa long way. Now, I'm not
saying that this is necessarily a goodthing in general. I think that,
you know, obviously the people wholive there and the nationals, you know,
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deserve to have a good life.But as a foreigner, very very
interesting time to go and visit,and we were kind of like, huh,
maybe we should go. We couldgo eat and drink for very little
amounts of money. We just sawfriends. Yeah, two dollars steaks and
one dollar glass of wine and ohnice stress rut in Buenos Aires, and
I spent thirty dollars and you're like, what, we could save money by
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going to Argentina. That's kind ofabsurd since we do live in Mexico.
Yeah. Yeah. The kind oflike super short version is due to a
whole bunch of import and export restrictions, some price fixing on certain things.
And then during the pandemic, especiallyjust like a really intense money printing,
(07:26):
the value of the currency has gonedown a ton, and just if you
have you're not if you have USdollars, it's become more and more affordable.
I remember when we were there.I was trying to think back to
twenty fourteen, because Argentina definitely wasn'tcheap. I remember coming from Brazil and
feeling like, oh, this stuffhere is better and it's more affordable than
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it was in Brazil. I thinkit was more affordable than Uruguay, which
is where we came from before that. But no, it wasn't I mean
compared to being in like Columbia,Ecuador, and I think we followed Chile
and Argentina with Bolivia, which wassignificantly cheaper at the time. I'm not
sure now I think it was kindof in the middle. Yeah, yeah,
(08:09):
and so but but yeah, priceshave definitely made it attractive, I
think too, just like we lovewhere we're at in Mexico, but lakes
and mountains and hiking, it's stuffwe like as well, that we really
like and we haven't had as muchand even like when we're back in Canada
now, because we're doing so muchvisiting with family and then balancing that with
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working, we haven't really had thetime to get out and enjoy it.
And the other thing with Canada toois kind of at the start of our
no My journey, we'd spend likefour months in the mountains in the summer.
The last couple of times going backfor a few weeks, the prices
in Canada have gone insane. Sowhen you're looking at, hey, we're
going to go spend night or acouple of nights in the mountains, it's
kind of like, well, we'drather just like do an entire trip to
(08:50):
Argentina than book like a three nightshotel stay in Bam. Yeah. No,
absolutely, it's just really become kindof crazy. And so yeah,
those are kind of in our intentaround that, and so we decided to
look into it a little bit moreand do a little bit more research,
and I think we were both alittle bit back and forth on it,
and I think the thought process was, we've already traveled a lot this year.
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Is it a responsible use of ourmoney and our time to do another
big trip this year? And thenwe kind of thought, Okay, if
we don't do it in the fall, when are we going to do it?
And it was going to fall afterLou's second birthday, which will happen
in February. We weren't going tobe able to go in January because we
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already have some travel plans in January, and so we were kind of like,
well, why don't we go now, Because for those of you who
don't have kids, or don't havefriends with kids, you have to pay
for their own seat once they turnedtwo, So it was pretty advantageous for
us to go in November when wecould still have her on her lap and
just play it for two seats,and so that was kind of a motivating
(09:58):
factor for the time. So westarted doing a bit more research. November
is spring in Argentina, so theweather looked pretty good when we did our
research. It wasn't supposed to belike super super warm and Bariloche, but
it was supposed to be pretty likemoderate spring temperatures. And then we were
planning to head to buen Idis forThanksgiving American Thanksgiving, and the temperatures were
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looking great for that, so wewere like, okay, let's do it,
so start looking into flights well,and you know, I think we
were so the other thing. Nathanfrom Fruity Flashpacker, who's a good friend,
was planning to be there, andI think even before we were like,
oh, we want to go toArgentina, we were kind of like,
would it be cool to go tobaril Loch and then we like found
some like really nice looking airbnbs andwe're like, okay, we want to
(10:43):
go to Bariloche. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.
I messaged Nathan and was like Iknew Argentina was a possibility for him in
the fall, and said what's thechances you'll be there? And he was
like I'm leaning towards that. AndI was like, okay, would you
come to Bariloche to visit? Andhe was like yeah, absolutely, and
I was like, okay, that'sa pro. And then yeah, we
started doing flight research airbnb research.We found a couple of airbnbs that we
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really liked that seemed like this wouldbe just great for the type of trip
we're looking for. And then whenwe actually started diving into flights, we
discovered that it was significantly cheaper tofly to Santiago in Chile than it was
to fly to Buenasidis and if youlook on a map, that actually makes
sense to go to Baroloche. Soy, we're like, cool, yeah,
let's do that. Let's book that. So we booked our return flights in
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and out of Cadetro through Mexico Cityand then onwards to Santiago. What ended
up happening, which was not superideal for us, is at the time
of looking, there was a directflight from Santiago to Barriloche, super affordable,
so we were going to do thatand obviously fly to Buenos Aytis and
then back to Santiago. And thenwhen it actually came to booking that,
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we discovered that November is like theonly month that they don't run that flight
pass. So then we were alittle bit like, Okay, we either
have to like take a flight andtake a bus, or we need to
fly to Buenaesytis and then back toBarolocha, which on the map really doesn't
make a lot of sense, butthat was the most like economical thing and
made the most sense with traveling withan infant, so we ended up doing
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that. So maybe we can talka little bit about our long haul flight
with a toddler before we get intolike actually being in Santiago when all of
that. Yeah, and just onereally quick thing for anyone who's thinking about
going Argentina, going to Santiago canbe a good move. It might change
though, because what happens is intoand out of Buenoesidas. There are tons
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of taxes and fees, and sowe were looking at flights that were like
thirty forty percent cheaper to go toSantiago. So worth keeping an eye on,
but definitely the sports that mere consideringbecause the flight's pretty There's a lots
of options and pretty cheap in betweenif you want to go there. I
know South Paulo is another option,but it can be worth getting to South
America and then getting your flight toArgentina. But it does seem like that's
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one of the things I might withthe new government. Yeah, for sure,
I think just doing some research andI know over I guess the last
year we've had, like we said, so many friends going and a lot
of them found really really good flightdeals, you know, to and from
Buena Sidis. So it's not thatit's not possible. It was just in
the time we were booking, goingto and from Mexico City was just not
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affordable. But once we started doingit's not that it wasn't affordable, I
guess it was just much more expensiveand so we were like, well,
we can save a bunch of moneyby just flying to Santiago, so why
don't we just do that, andso that's what we ended up doing,
and maybe we'll talk about it ifwe ever regrets or not with that in
a little bit. Yeah, Andso the it's going to be interesting for
us because the flight to Santiago fromMexico City was eight hours, right,
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Yeah, yeah, eight hours,so it's kind of like a like an
ocean crossing flight time wise, butthis was the first time we were doing
kind of a longer flight during theday. So we left really early morning,
really quick flight to Mexico City,and then we were going to be
kind of like ten am to eightpm kind of thing on on the flight.
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Yeah. Yeah, for sure.It was definitely a long flight during
the day. And if you've listenedto some of our stuff about traveling with
a baby, traveling with a toddler, you know, we talked pretty in
depth about Japan and we were obviouslyvery anxious for those flights, but flying
overnight, especially like with a smallchild, like she slept, you know,
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a good portion of the trip,but I was like, well,
she only sleeps like two maybe threehours of daytime sleep now because she's bigger,
so we need to be like superprepared. I think one of the
things that maybe was helpful with thetrip and with the time zone. So
Argentina is three hours Argentina and Chileare three hours ahead of Mexico, so
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I guess that's two hours ahead ofEastern Standard time, and so we were
going through a pretty significant time change, but here in Mexico. Because our
I think our first flight was likesix am or something like that, we
I ended up getting up at likethree. I think we got up at
three. Lou got up at threethirty, and then we left for the
airport pretty quick after she got up, and because of that, she was
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pretty snoozy in the morning, LikeI think by the time we kind of
got on our first flight, shewas like she was pretty chill. She
was like had a little snooze Ithink on that plane ride, and then
she played a little bit in MexicoCity, and then we got on the
plane for our big one and wewere able to do some activities and play
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with her a little bit before shetook like a pretty significant nap, woke
up, and then I think maybeshe slept a little bit more. So
we actually got more kind of Iguess sleep than I was sort of planning
for because we had gotten her upso early in the morning, like I
think she lost out on probably likefour hours of her normal nighttime sleep,
and so was she was tired.Which I'm not saying a tired baby.
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Tired child's a good thing. Butwhen you're traveling and you've got this natural
sort of rocking motion and natural whitenoise, I think it's it works out
pretty well. So I wanted totalk about a little bit how we prepared
for this flight because there was alittle bit of like, Eeke, this
is a long flight to entertain atoddler, and also this is the first
long haul flight that she was walkingfor, which when you are traveling with
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a child that's walking, it's abit of a game changer. Like I
feel like it switches once they startcrawling, and then once they start pulling
themselves up and kind of toddling fromplace to place, which is what she
was doing with Japan, it changesagain. But then walking is like a
whole thing because she can get herselfup and down the seat, she can
just take off, she can justgo running if she wants to, Like
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she's pretty independent now. And soI guess let's talk a little bit about
some of the things that we didto prepare for this flight. Yeah,
So one of the kind of newthings we did for this flight was we
got her a little travel backpack andso she was able to put some for
her favorite toys in it and carryit and kind of be responsible for that
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herself. And it was cool thestrip as well, because she's walking so
confidently, so she was actually ableto board and get off the planes walking.
Not all of them, but mostof them. She did walk on
and walk off of the planes.And then we kind of have some like
tried and true staples, like thethings that stick to the window and spin,
and then like the iPad as theemergency break break glass in case of
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our emergency entertainment option. Yeah,and one of the notes I made with
that is YouTube Premium, So ifyou have a Netflix account, then you
can download shows offline on an iPad, which is really helpful. I think
that there's probably parents out there withbigger kids who have really good like games
and programs and stuff when they're moreindependent. She's still not super independent with
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her device or with the device it'sours, So we actually splurge for YouTube
Premium, which is shockingly expensive.I'm just going to throw it out there,
like it's worth it to have allthe time. But you can download
things like you know, Miss Rachelfor those of you with small kids,
you know, and we also havea Spanish equivalent to Miss Rachel. So
just downloading like a couple of littlethirty minute episodes. I don't think we
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use them. I think a littlebit maybe during like meal times or times
where we just needed a little breakfrom entertaining. But like Grian said,
we had her backpack, which wasreally fun, so she was able to,
you know, pack the toy shewanted and then she was able to
like choose from the backpack which toyshe wanted to play with, and when
it is a pretty small backpack,so I did pack her some other stuff
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separately. So we did do reusablesticker books. That was a really really
fun toy that she loved. SoI think if you've got a kid kind
of between eighteen months and I wouldsay, I don't know when she's going
to get bored of this. Butwe had our friend's kid over the other
day who is almost three, andhe had a great time with one of
her sticker books. So eighteen monthsplus the reusable sticker book are super fun.
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I bought three of them for her, and none of them she'd used
before, so we were able tokind of make our way through one at
a time. She is able totake the stickers off herself, but sometimes
she asks for help and then shecan move them around and stuff and just
play a bit independently, which isgreat. We also, of course had
books for her, like tons ofbooks. We always have books. Like
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you said, the stick on tothe window are always great. You can
like stick those on and then they'lljust like play with them for ages.
And then we also had snacks.I feel like snacks are just super key,
and when we did our episode ontraveling with zero to twelve months,
I feel like that's really one ofthe things that changes when they stop relying
on milk, is like snacks aresuper super key. So I think I
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packed like I packed snacks for usas well, but Lou's snack bag was
like way bigger than like or likemaybe the same size as our combined snack
bags, which is crazy because she'lljust be like snacks, snacks, snacks
next. So just kind of aswe got on the plane, letting her
discover her space, and she reallylikes to play with the like the barf
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bag and the safety car, andshe likes to look out the windows we're
doing things, and then we likegive her the backpack she starts playing with
that kind of let her do herthing, and then we only use the
iPad when she got kind of likeshe did have a moment I think maybe
before she napped or maybe when shewoke up, and she had a lot
of energy where she really wanted torun around, and so after we had
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done sufficient running in the airplane,we were like, Okay, let's just
have a little bit of TV timeso we can just take a little break.
But yeah, and she didn't endup. There was a panda documentary
on Aero Mexico that we washed andshe kept yelling Panda, Panda, Panda.
Yeah, she's very into pandas fora long time. But it's something
that was cool about the flight iswe got seats right at the front of
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our section, so by the areaby the washrooms, which are kind of
seats where you're like, I don'treally want to be by the washing but
it's nice because you could just getup and there was like a walkway in
between the two aisles because it wasa Dreamliner, so three seats, three
seats, three seats, and themain body of the plane and then she
could just kind of like walk aroundin there, and so we spent a
decent amount of time doing that.It was weird because it was a newer
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Dreamliner and so they do the thingwhere they like turn all the windows tonight
even though it was during the day, which I was find being kind of
disorienting. Yeah, it was likemy eyes hurt from all the bright lights
from all the screens because everyone's watchingTV because it's daytime, but they made
it seem like it's dark in there. Yeah, I do feel like the
pro of that is I do feellike, like I said before, she
did sleep a little more than maybeI would have expected her to. She
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doesn't normally take like super super longnaps on planes. That hasn't been like
she's more of like a snoozer onplanes versus at home. She takes like
one really solid nap and she sleptpretty solidly. So I'll say I'll say
that it being dark was a wasa win overall, since she's like too
little for an eyemask and st stufflike that. But yeah, it was
very disorienting. Even when I thinkback to it, I'm like, did
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we travel at night? Because everythingwas dark and then you go to the
bathroom and it's like the window inthe bathroom's like the one window where you
can see out, and you're like, oh right, it's like two pm
right now and it's like right outside. Yeah, but it was honestly,
like a not bad. I kindof enjoyed that time frame on the plane,
like it's so much nicer than likeI feel like in my mind,
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I'm kind of like, well,eight hours, thirteen hours is a really
that much of a difference, Andyou can definitely feel the extra five six
hours to go to Asia versus togoing to Santiago. In this case,
I think it's like two hours moreto go to Argentina one two hours.
But yeah, overall, pretty smoothflying. And I think one thing I'm
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excited about the next time we kindof have a big flight day. Loosens
to be engaging so much more withher books over the past two months,
and so I'm hopeful that like she'llbe able to be entertained with books on
the next flight, Yeah, forsure. And I think one thing that's
like I mean, it's really justfun to watch her development in general.
But I feel like one thing that'sreally fun about the stage of development.
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You know, she's almost two,she's like starting to become more independent with
her play. So her play upuntil now, what she has done for
play has been very much like she'sneeded kind of somebody to play with her
or to like instigate the play,I guess, And now she's really great
about like, hey, we're bothin the kitchen. She doesn't want to
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be in the kitchen. She justgoes to her play area and grabs a
book, sits on the couch andis like blah blah blah blah blah,
like telling herself a little story,or she like goes and just plays with
her toys. It's not long periodsof time that she's doing it for because
she's still little, but we're startingto get more of that, which I'm
excited to see how that translates ontoflights and like, especially as she gets
her own seat in her own space, she'll start kind of finding, you
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know, the things that she likesto do on a travel day, which
I think will be really cool.I know we're a little ways off from
that, but I think it'll bepretty cool. But yeah, she was
amazing and she did great. Theday was pretty long. Like I said,
we left our house at like threepoint thirty in the morning, we
got to the Santiago airport at likeeight or nine pm. And then one
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of the things that I think wehadn't really thought through when we first booked
the flight was that Chile has prettyintense like immigration and customs. And so
obviously every country is immigration and customsthat you have to go through, but
Chile is like very strict on likefruits and vegetables and foods and all these
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things. And so while it waspretty I would say speedy and smooth overall,
there wasn't a lot of people inthe airport when we went and stuff.
It just like takes a little bitof time because you have to go
through that entire process and they screeneveryone's bags and all that type of stuff.
And so by the time we likegot out of the airport and got
a taxi to our hotel which wasonly like five minutes away and checked in,
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I feel like it was like whatI mean, it was at least
two hours before we go to ourhotel room. Yeah, it was about
two from landing in the plane gettingour bags, and it was one of
those things to where we had togo through customer, go through immigration,
wait a really long time for thebegs to come get your bag, and
then get through like a screening whetherlike do you have apples in there,
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which is definitely as a traveler,one of those things that makes you annoyed.
And then yeah, we kind ofI feel like on this trip down
to Barledje had a couple of mistakesor not mistakes really, but like just
things that travel lessons that probably shouldhave learned by now. So in Santiago,
one was just kind of assuming thatthe hotel shuttles would be like available
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there and not that you had tolike check with the hotel and it was
like, oh, we sent someoneto get you. And the other one
was our flight into Barreloche had beenchanged time wise, so we were going
to be arriving a couple hours later, which led to our rental car being
canceled. Yeah, which maybe wecan talk about that when we get there,
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but yeah, I feel like itwas like, yeah, we knew
we booked with who are we stayingwith holiday? I think it was Hilton
Garden oh yeah, Hilton Garden In. So through our MX we get we're
like Hilton Gold members, like it'sthis free breakfast. So we're like,
let's do the Hilton Garden in atthe airport. It's really close. Says
they have a shuttle. I nevercontacted them. We get there, nobody
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knows where it is, and thenit turns out it runs like once on
the hour, and I think itwas like ten thirty or ten twenty five
or something. So then we're like, okay, well we need to We
don't have any cell phone data,we don't have any Chilean cash, like
just to missus by us, andso we're like, we just got to
pay for a cab. The firstone quotes us like this insanely high rate
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for like a five minute drive.I think it was gonna be like fifty
dollars. I was like, let'sfind a cheaper one. So we found
one that was maybe half the price, still outrageous for how far we were
going, but we're like whatever,it's late, like loose tired, we're
tired. We just need to likeget to this hotel. And so yeah,
then we like asked when we gotthere, and they're like yeah,
we just run like every hour onthe hour, and so we're like,
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okay, let's book it for tomorrowmorning. Let's not pay for another cab,
let's just make this happen. Andthen the other mistake we made so
the day before we left. Thankfullyyou look this up, you realize that
Chile and Argentina have different plugins thanwe do in Mexico. Mexico is the
same as Canada in the US.And you ordered like just like uber rappid
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quickly like some converters. So theconverter works, Ryan plugs it in and
then plugs in something else. Itlike sparks and like causes like an odage
of like shorts the circuit basically,and we're like, oh crap. And
so thankfully the hotel had like converters. It must be a common thing that
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people just don't think about this ordon't bring them or whatever. Chi lose
is very strange, and so wewere able to borrow them. But I
was like, man, it's likewe've never traveled before, Like we just
had a couple misses with that,and maybe that's like us just being like
like I had like the perfect setupof snacks and perfect organization of lose outfits
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and extra outfits and like you know, diapers and all those things. So
maybe it was just like that wasthe focus, and then we just kind
of forgot like basic things like well, our cell phones work in Chile and
like should I contact the hotel beforehand? And yeah, all these things.
So it was like a little bitof a I think a little bit stressful
when we got there. Yeah,yeah, for sure. And yeah,
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so we turned around, spent aquick night in Santiago or back of the
airport relatively early the next morning,and then flew Santiago to the older airport
and went aside is there's one that'sfar away from the city. It's called
Easy and it's like the most commonand biggest one, And there's AEP which
is aero Parque, and we weregoing through Aeroparque. One of the kind
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of really nice things about Chile andArgentina that we didn't know about that we
found out when we were there isthey really do a lot to make it
easy to travel as parents. Sobasically all the airports have separate checking encounters,
separate security lines, and separate customsand immigrations for priority passengers sorry for
like disabled passengers, parents, pregnantwomen, anything like that. So parents
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with kids under six count in likeall of those priority lines, which was
really really nice for the entire thing. And honestly, it's like when you
leave that, you're just like,you need can move somewhere where this is
the case. Yeah, we gotback to Mexico. Mexico City was just
a complete and utter fluster cook.Yeah, it was not good, which
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we can talk about that another timebecause it's many weeks in the future from
where we are in the story rightnow. But it was crazy and I
was like, I'm really missing thisfamily priority. But it was really nice
because we got to the Santiago airportand the like Pan American Games were finishing
up and so it was just likeathletes from every country everywhere. Argentinian Airlines
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is like super busy, so there'sjust like this huge, massive line and
like, we did have enough time. We budgeted plenty of time, so
it's not like we were rushed oranything. But part of the reason that
a lot of places give families privilegeto have a separate liner to go first
is because it's really hard to occupya running toddler while you're waiting in a
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very slow line. So if we'removing, she's okay in her stroller.
If we're just like stop and go, she wants out. And then she
doesn't just want to stand there,she wants to like explore, which is
not super ideal when you're in aline. So we were kind of doing
our best to the line with snacksand toys and stuff. And then like
one of the people who was workingwith the airline actually pulled us ahead,
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which was really we were really reallygrateful. And then the Santiago airport was
chill, it was nice, everythingwas good. Then we got to Buenos
Aidis and we had to go throughcustoms and immigration again. So I feel
like this is where kind of whenyou think about, like you know,
the taxi and the night in thehotel and like just having to do customs
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and immigration two days back to back, I was like, maybe we should
have just gone right to Buenos Aidisand then stayed there and then gone to
Bariloja. But anyways, say,Lavi just something to consider based on you
and your trip planning. If you'reconsidering this one thing in Chile, you
don't have to go through customs ifyou're on a connecting flight, but because
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we booked two separate flights. Yeah, so that was another thing. Yeah,
in and out we booked two separateflights. So yeah. Then we
got into Argentina and we had todo all of that again and it was
kind of weird. We were like, so, where's like domestic now,
and we had to actually like walkout of the airport. Even though we
had a flight. We'd booked oneset of flights from Santiago through to Baroloche,
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we still had to like get ourbags, go through customs, go
through immigration, walk outside the airport, go into like a separate area of
the air of the airport, recheckour bags. So we get into domestic
and it's like an absolute crazy madhouse. It was like a Saturday. We
found out it was a long weekend, which we didn't know about, and
we were like, oh my god, this is actually insane. And then
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somebody was like, oh, youhave a kid, you can just go
in like the priority lineup, andI was like, oh, thank all
the gods of the world. Andso it was actually pretty smooth. So
yeah. Then we arrived to Barolocheand like Ryan said before, I think
our flight had been changed and Ihad not updated budget who were renting our
car through, and he's like,oh, you were supposed to be here
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like four hours ago. It's markedas a no show. And I'm like,
crap, we needed a car seatand we can't drive a manual car,
you know, Can we still geta car? And he's like,
yeah, I think I've got somethingsimilar, And thankfully it wasn't. It
didn't cost us much more to dothat, but definitely a good learning experience.
So if you have a rental carand your flight gets changed, update
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your rental car company. Maybe that'slike common knowledge. Excuse me, it's
not something I thought about. Yeah, And so yeah, we got into
Barreloche, we got our course carsorted. I felt like it had been
a very long travel session to getthere, but we got there and the
day was beautiful, got in thecar and headed off to our airbnb.
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The Barrelocha airport's relatively close and it'sa decent sized airport, actually, like
they're When we came back and we'rein the other area, it was like,
oh, let's tack big Masamainos forlike how small Barreloach is. I
think the airport is a surprising Satzfor sure, and you can fly internationally
there, I think from Santiago everymonth about November, and saw Paulo and
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then a few other cities in Argentinafly directly there. So that was one
I think one of the considerations ofmaybe making Santiago more worth it was there
was a discount flight direct from Santiago, which is actually a shorter flight than
it is from Buenos Aida. Isbecause Baroloche is really close to Chile,
and I think that might have madeus think, like, like, if
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we'd taken that flight, I thinkI would have been like, Okay,
I think it was worth it todo the Chili thing. Yeah, because
I think customs and immigration in Barilochewould have been much different than going through
Buena Sidis, Yeah, and havingto then go we check in and da
da da da da, and theairport was wait another. It probably ended
up taking like four or five hoursmore because we flew to go through security
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twice fly to be a fly outanyways. Yeah, but I think overall,
like considering flew Cadetro Mexico City,Mexico City, Santiago, stayed overnight
in Santiago, then had flights fromSantiago to Ba Ba to Baroloche. The
fact that like everything was like ontime, smooth, No luggage was lost,
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nobody lost a limb, like nobodyyelled. Like it was pretty overall,
it was like pretty smooth. Itwas long, it was tiring,
we were very tired by the timewe got to Bariloche, but like everything
went really well, like looted amazingand considering it was basically two full days
of travel by the time we actuallygot to Baroloche. Yeah, and there
was a couple of things like soso the woman pulls us out of the
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big line and it's checks us inearly. Someone did the same when we
had gotten to Argentina. You werewaiting to like boor oh yeah, I
was gonna say we were waiting toa flight. They were like pas pasa.
The guy their endical company was reallyawesome and helped us out when I
could have easily seen him trying tolike kind of take advantage of the situation
to charge a lot more money.So yeah, lots of really things that
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made the day really smooth. AndI think too, I mean, it's
it's so nice as a parent havingthat with the way they have stuff set
up there in Argentine and Chile.Remember thinking too, like this must be
so frustrating for Chile and Argentinian parentswhen they go anywhere else in the world
and people are like, you havekids, don't care, get in the
back of the line, losers.Yeah, I mean it seems like other
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countries are maybe starting to follow thesuit, like we talked about Canada started
to do it, which is reallynice. I feel like I wonder about
other people if they're like, oh, like f these families. But I
actually feel like if you're somebody whomaybe doesn't want to be like have your
travel day maybe quote unquote spoiled bysmall children, I feel like it'd be
like great to just have families andkids kind of separate, right, I
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mean, especially too with like security, where like it takes just a long
time to get through security when you'vegot to collapse the stolder, hold the
kid da da da da dah.Yeah. Anyways, so yeah, relatively
smooth travels. I think looking backon it now get and how everything played
out, we would just like,hey, it's worth it to just fly
direct to BA and save the timeand everything else involved. Yeah, what
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else do you want to cover fornow? In this episode. Yeah,
so we're going to do just soyou guys know, we're going to do
a full like Barriloche episode. Ihave to talk about if we're doing Baroloche
and BA or if we're doing themist two separate ones. I'm not sure
yet, but I thought maybe wecould just talk about like finally getting to
Baroloche after this epic travels and justmaybe first impressions that first day slash night.
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Yeah, so first impressions were amazing. I remember we both I don't
think we paid attention to the weatheron the day we were traveling there.
We'd kind of been following it leadingup to and the weather was like five
degrees six degrees cool, And thenwe were on the planet like they piloted
the announcement like today it's whatever degreesin the city and he was like eighteen
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degrees and Sonny and Bariloche and welike looked at each other, We're like,
ooh, and so beautiful. Firstimpression of barri loche driving and it's
like thirty minutes to the airbnb.And one of the things we were really
excited about with this time is wekind of invested in an airbnb that was
right by the lake and had abeautiful view. So getting in, we
had a really welcoming host who kindof talked us through everything, and I
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think I felt it just like superexcited to be there. Yeah, for
sure, Like so Bariloche is surroundedby mountains and it's right on this beautiful
lake with mountains, and because wewere in kind of early springtime, but
you know, the mountains were stillsnow capped, which is so beautiful.
It's just like very very very veryvery picturesque. And like Ryan said,
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we arrived with really great weather,We had a great host, our airbnb
was really beautiful. We had thisbig window looking out into the lake,
and I think we were just like, oh, this is amazing. And
then our airbnb host had given ussome great recommendations for some food, so
we headed into town and we hada really like good first meal there,
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and I think we were just reallyexcited. I think the only thing was
is I had started to feel sick. My ears were really bothering me from
the day of travel, and Iwas really tired, sort of felt like
I was maybe getting a cold,but we'll talk about that a little later
on. I think we were stilljust very excited to like explore the plaza
and see what we were remembered andjust be walking in like the fresh mountain
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air and yeah, everything was justgreat. We were super happy to be
there. Yeah, and we wentfirst night went for dinner at a brewery
called Manushe, which we would kindof end up going back to a whole
bunch of times, but had likea good pot pie. I think I
had a burger. Yeah, Ihad like a chicken pot pie for my
because my ear was doing that likeweird pain where it like kind of hurts
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into your throat but you're not sureif you have like an earache or a
sore throat. So anyways, Iwas like just wanted something kind of warm
and nourishing. I was craving kindof soup, something I didn't have to
chew, And then they had thisamazing pop pie on the menu. It
was like a dream come true.So I would definitely recommend Manush that pot
pie is worth it for sure.Yeah. And then yeah, so we'll
dive deeper on Baroloche, but Ithink our general impression was like really solid
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travel day. I definitely think aswell. So they don't do tailor savings
time in Argentina, so it's currentlythree hours ahead of Central Time. It's
not a huge time change, butyet it maybe in a long flight.
I think we got there felt prettygood, didn't feel like too jet legged
or anything. And then from likea nomad perspective, I was actually pretty
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like happy to be two hours aheadof Eastern time and just like work on
that time zone because I found itquite enjoyable. M M. Yeah,
for sure, maybe we can diveinto more of like kind of what our
routine became like in Barreloche. Butyeah, I was a bit anxious,
Like three hours is not it's notlike going to Europe or to Asia,
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but it's significant enough to like messwith your your rhythms, and so we
were a little uncertain of how Louwould manage and if she was going to
wake up at like four am andstuff. But she honestly like did really
amazing. Like I think we wereall pretty tired, so we just kind
of had you know, normal bedtimewhen we got there, and next day
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just started kick things off and gotinto our kind of new rhythm and routine
for the next three weeks. Yeah, and I guess one of the first
impression things For me, I thinkas we prepared and we're getting ready,
you know, following the news Argentinaand just the you know, inflation and
deva, like the value of theirpaso getting worse and worse and worse,
and you're there was a gasoline issuein the week's leading up. They're also
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in the middle of kind of electionseason, so that was all going on.
So I think it created this feelingof us of like, well,
we've been here before, we havethat, and we have friends who have
been here recently, but like,what's it going to be like? Like,
you know, you hear crowns gettingworse, as people are kind of
in bad economic spots, and we'relike kind of not really sure like what
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to expect. And I think oneof the things that was from our coupled
about it was just how normal everythingwas. Everything's open, lots of people
around, everybody's happy. I'm sureeveryone's not the general value if you were
like, hey, we'll show youa picture of like a place in Mexico
and then a picture of a coupleof different places in Argentina that we visited,
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and we're like, which one ofthese is going through like an economic
crisis? You'd be like, it'sthe Mexican city, not there, Argentinian
city. Yeah. I think it'sjust hard when you're not there, you
just don't know like what things areactually like. So you're just relying on
like word of mouth and Facebook groupsand you know what people are saying and
stuff, and so, you know, this is something that we worried less
about pre traveling with a child,but when you're traveling with a small child,
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that's like, we don't want toget in a situation that could be
dangerous. And we weren't really surehow things were going to go with the
election, and you know, isthere unrest or anything, And everything was
very, very smooth. I mean, we'll talk more about just being in
Barreloj being in ba again, butI feel like everything was just really great
and I think if you were completelyoblivious to what was going on, you
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would never guess it. Yeah.Yeah, So yeah, that was the
adventure to Barriloche. We'll talk moreabout everything there. If you have or
planning a trip in the next coupleweeks or months to Argentina and have specific
questions about it, definitely fire themour way. We can include that an
episode and probably just get back toyou directly, and other than that,
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anything you want to we want totouch on before you wrap up. No,
I think we've got so much totalk about in the next episode,
so stay tuned for that. It'lldefinitely be a jam packed episode with everything
all things barri Loche awesome. Untilnext time, Bye, guys, Thanks
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