January 19, 2024 • 26 mins
Impact leader, speaker, strategist, author and the founder of Power Up Life Boss book series, Pamela R. Browne, joins V. Helena in the THE HAVEN. Her message focuses on leading from a platform of excellence to encourage, empower, equip, and elevate!
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Hello, dreaming people, Welcome backto the Haven. I'm here today with
my good friend Pamela R. Brownto talk about her Power Up Life movement
that focuses on igniting your personal powertowards achieving greatness. Pamela is an impact
leader, speaker, strategist, author, and the founder of Power Up Life
(01:17):
Boss book series that strives to trainand provide support to professionals. Her message
focuses on leading from a platform ofexcellence to encourage, empower, equip and
elevate. So, without further ado, joining me in welcoming my dear friend
(01:37):
Pamela to the Haven. Hello,So thank you one hundred for coming to
the Haven. Thank you finally gotit together and here we got together.
So happy. So this is yourbook? You got this now? This
(02:01):
is actually the Journal for Intentional Living. And I know you're working on a
book, but let's talk about howthis came to be. What inspired you
to put together this journal? Andwe'll talk a lot more in depth about
the journal itself, but what inspiredyou to create it and publish it?
(02:23):
Wow? Well, again, thankyou for having me and for the opportunity
you got. This came about afteryears and years and years of traveling our
country and working with clinicians in particularand teaching them and being a resource to
them on how to work with theirclients, how to work with their patients.
And after a session, after aworkshop, a seminar, I would
(02:46):
always end it by telling them andencouraging them and saying, you got this
MM, meaning you can go outand serve the people that you're supposed to
serve, the other clinicians, theother patients. But in that process I
also told them about the power ofjournaling, journaling, writing your feelings,
what's going on with you, especiallybecause I said, therapists need therapy and
(03:09):
counselors need counseling M and one ofthe ways to UH channel those feelings in
a healthy way is through journaling.So after a couple of sessions, I
heard people say, you tell usthe journal, but I don't have a
journal. You don't have one.No, they would tell me that they
(03:30):
yeah, I would say, atthe end of our training, you know,
talk about the power of journaling MM. But they would say, you
tell us talking about me, Youtell us, you encourage us to journal,
but I don't have a journal.Journaling is not cool? What is
it about this? Journal. Sothat was part of the inspiration, like,
(03:51):
how can I tell people to journalbut they don't have the tools and
the instruments to do it. Kay, So that was part of the inspiration
of you got this. Wow.So, I mean it's it's been it's
it's a fact and it's been studiedthat journaling and writing your feelings in terms
of mental health is a very verypositive thing to do. It. It
(04:14):
can one hundred percent help you inwhatever type of crisis, or not even
crises, or I could just beyou sharing your most intimate personal thoughts and
writing it down and writing it kindof sorting through whatever it is that you're
focusing on. So I mean it, I know that there have been studies
done about that. Talk more aboutthat defining moment that happened in your life,
(04:41):
that that personal tragedy that happened inyour life, that that further prompted
you to to put that thought ofpublishing this kind of book and the importance
of it. Yeah. I Idid have a personal tragedy with a coworker
many years ago, and he wasa psychologist, and he was the life
(05:04):
of the office, the life ofthe party, and just very unassuming and
you know, like I said,brought us so much joy. And so
one after coming back to work ona Monday after a long weekend, and
I was like, well, whereis he not like And we shared office.
We shared an office, so wereally became like family because we were
(05:26):
sharing that workspace. Yeah, andI said, just assume. I said,
well, maybe he just took offa day, Maybe sick Tuesday comes
he doesn't show. I was like, no, this is not like him.
Two days in a row, threedays. I was like, still,
he's not in the office. SoI remember later that day, on
(05:47):
that Wednesday, I got some unfortunatenews at the time from my supervisor that
he had committed suicide. Mm.And when I tell you, it was
like someone had literally punched a holein my stomach. That pain MM and
I really had a hard time processingit. And he wasn't from this area,
(06:10):
so it also entailed me being incontact with his f uh family.
He was from the Midwest. SoI was tasked at that time to gather
all of his personal belongings in theoffice and preparation to take back to his
family. Going through his things,there was a small journal. Never saw
it while we worked together. Soand I was just like, let me
(06:33):
see what he's gotten in here.And he had all kinds of things about
the work that we did, thingsto do. He write like he would
even journal one in one word,how he felt for the day, what
was going on. But there nearthe end of that journal, there was
a note that said, we gottahave help for the helping professionals. Mm.
(06:58):
We have to have help for thehelping professionals, right, And that
resonated with me because I thought aboutthat. I said, we do need
help as the helping professionals, Butwhere do we get our help from m
Because a lot of the work thatwe did was dealing with and addressing trauma
every day. So where was ouroutlet beyond talking to your coworker where we
(07:24):
could comfortably talk about it? Journaling? And so he modeled that and I
didn't even know he was journaling.And again that even was part of the
inspiration yea for the book. Yeahyeah, So in the book itself and
and it's uh from the Power UpLife Boss series. Talk to us about
(07:45):
what that is, what that means? Well, Power Up Life Boss is
the umbrella for the entire book series. So rather than calling it each I
said everything will fall under power,cause that's what I'm looking at, looking
at what you're internal power is.And I know a lot like the trends
are using the term in power,but I really believe that we all have
(08:07):
our own innate sense of power.So as a matter of igniting it,
powering it up, you know whatyou have. Rather than looking at other
places for your source, take alook at what's going on inside the internal
and let's reflect upon that and thenhow do I make my power shine?
(08:28):
Wow? So in the workshops thatyou do, and I know that you've
traveled and you've done a lot ofworkshops based on this premise, just in
a very basic way, tell ouraudience what the process is for doing that.
(08:50):
I mean conceptually, I I couldunderstand it, it resonates, but
how does one actually take the stepsto ignite the fire within, so to
speak, to power up. Ithink one thing that I have found over
the year's valorie is people feeling comfortablewith spending time with self. Mm In
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our lives, we can be verybusy with good things and with bad times
that we're so busy, but itwas something when you take that time to
reflect, to spend time with yourself. I do an exercise It's called a
SWAT exercise as WoT and the acronymstands for strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and
(09:33):
threats. Right, And so goingthrough that SWAT exercise, even as a
personal tool, focus is you syou helps you to focus on who me,
well, what are my strengths,what are my weaknesses? What do
I consider as an opportunity? Andcertainly what are the threats that are going
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on around me? The research isabsolutely phenomenal cause each time I do that
exercise, I'll ask the audience,I'll say, which was the easiest category
for you to complete? MM?Many times more hands are raised for I
can identify my strengths. Many peoplecan go through that. But then when
we start looking at MM, wellwhat are my weaknesses and what is considered
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an opportunity in my life right now? And then threats? Time, resources,
maybe I want to go back toschool, you can take threats.
And so that's how that journal helpsyou to organize your thoughts. It helps
you to plan, It helps youto have that outlet as well as that
(10:41):
tool for preparation to grow forward.And notice I said grow forward, my
go forward, right, But togrow forward, right, So it it
it basically facilitates that process absolutely ofworking through those things. And it takes
us certain level of self awareness toreally be honest with yourself when you're jotting
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down those four categories of things andand really delving deep into yourself to to
really find those those points. Andso once you find those points, how
do you use them in order toignite to empower yourself? Well, I
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think one thing should wait for thebook. Well that is gonna be expounding
upon that. But when you havethe journal, your journal becomes like your
safe space. Mm, yeah right, yeah, it becomes that space that
I may not have felt comfortable insaying something. But your journal is just
that, it's your journal. It'syour safe space. So when you look
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at it that way, you canput and write anything in your journal.
But I do a lot of researchemotional intelligence. And when we were talking
about the swat analysis right and lookingat self, Well, the theory of
emotional intelligence by psychologists Daniel Goleman isbased upon four concepts. The one is
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self awareness, second is self management, third is social awareness, and the
fourth is relationship management. And sowhen you look at that in the concept
of emotional intelligence, and you addjournals and other tools in it. Emotional
intelligence is how you're thinking and howyour mindset drives your attitude and your behavior.
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Well, if I have a toollike a journal that can help me
to channel that, most likely I'mgonna make wiser decisions. Most Likely I'm
gonna spend time with myself to lookat the pros and the cons of situations.
Most likely I'm gonna have again thatsafe space to even write out my
plans. The power of journaling.Wow, that that's very, very interesting
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and amazing to really have a toolthat you can use that will help others
to focus on the things that Ithink are absolutely worth taking the time to
do in your journey as a person, in your journey and life and the
relationships that you touch. One otherthing that you mentioned indirectly in terms of
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using writing as therapy. There there'sso many different ways of doing it.
I actually was in a class thatfocused on journaling. Actually, my prior
guest, Sandra Mannigoldt, had turnedme on to a writer who I cannot
remember her name, but very prominentwriter. The artist's way is a a
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concept in the theory that she introduced. I think maybe twenty five years ago,
but in that class, because Iactually recently took the class that she
had been telling me years and yearsand years and years ago to you should
you should read the book, youshould take the class. So I took
the class and journal writing was avery, very big component of it.
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So flipping it back to where weare today in our discussion about journal writing,
one of the things that I heardin our classes because we were supposed
to write every day, break upand boom, you're vomiting on the page.
And even if you didn't know whatto write, you had to write
something. And they said, ifyou don't know what to write, just
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write I don't know what to write, and just keep writing that until something
comes to your mind to write about. So having that as a potential challenge
for people who may be in theworkshop, who may be okay with the
of it, but are having problemsdoing it, how do you address that?
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Well, one thing I tell peopleis the one of the best benefits
of journaling is it's not scripted,right, meaning that you're not required to
write one page, two page whatever. I te tell people, write from
your soul and if you spend timereflecting and writing from your soul. You'll
each day varies, each journal entryvaries. Yeah, it might be just
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one word across the fabulous it wasjust a great day. Then there might
be that next entry that might beyou could spend two three four pages of
just writing and writing and like yousaid, vomiting getting it out. But
then it helps you again with yourreflection and growing forward because you can have
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with that journal you can look like, well, what was I thinking about
in January MM of twenty twenty three. You've got your notes about yourself captured
and that's, yeah, what whatwas going on with me back in I
was supposed to be spending time reflectingand gain new goals together new year.
Where am I now? It's we'regoing into the last quarter now in twenty
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twenty three. But it helps youto just again to look at yourself to
keep yourself on track, you know, and it's you could have re you
know, regressed in some things,but then there are a lot of times
when many people have progressed and goneforward, and then you can applaud yourself
and say, hey, look whereI was then, but here I am
now. Yes, yes, sooh, let's talk a bit about the
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book that you're writing. It's nonfiction, so it's it's a genre that I
don't have many authors on to talkabout, uh, but a very important
genre. Nonetheless, this is selfhelp, motivational, inspirational kind of writing.
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Talk to me a little bit aboutyour process in delving into it.
Mm. Well, I think oneof the things for me is my mindset
creating that space for me to letthose creative juices flow. Yeah, I
do my best and near the water, okay, listening to the water,
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the waves, walking across the shorelinein any time of the year, I
can beat that. That's I don'tknow what it is about that space,
but that does it for me.So even if I physically can't be at
Rehove with beach or myrtle beats onof my favorites. Now we have apps,
yes, right, so I canat least turn on the sound of
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the waves of you know, therain drops and so forth, which against
helps my mindset to get me intothat place. That's a very good point.
I know some authors that create soundtracksbased on whatever the theme is for
what they're writing. I don't personallydo it, but I'm fascinated by people
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who do. You know. Soif someone's doing a period piece, they'll
find music from that period and they'llhave that kind of playing in the background
as they're writing, and and itinspires their writing and and so it it's
just great to hear how different writersengage into that process. Now, would
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you say you're a a person thatoutlines first and then you write to the
outline or do you just kind ofbeing you're inspired by the sounds and whatever
you're feeling about in terms of writingat that time? Do you write linearly?
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Do you like? What what isthe what is it? What is
the process that you use to anythinkfor For everything I write, even as
I mentioned to you, I'm astudent, everything is m it's just not
scripted. For me. It's notit's not scripted. It's really what's going
on. Well again with my mindsetand whatever it is that I'm writing about.
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So music is a great influence forme. So just like just cooling
out and just saying okays, Sothat influences my thoughts. Yeah, but
I have to have the journal becausethoughts come to me quickly. And you
know how it is, you canbe at the red light. Oh my
goodness, that's a great title forthe book light Chase is great, Grab
the journal, write that down sothen when I get home and get settled,
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I can go back now where Iwrote it, yeah, and revisit
it. Yeah. So again thepower of why we lead journals. Yeah,
yeah, that that's one hundred hearyou. So some other writers that
I've had on and myself included,cause I wrote two non fiction books.
Again, you know my I'm sI'm very regimented in my writing, which
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is probably stressful to some people ifif when you hear about it, because
I I do outline the hell outof my whatever it is i'm writing,
whether it's fiction or nonfiction, Aand N. And then for the nonfiction
stuff I may have, chapter oneis about this, chapter two is about
this, and whichever chapter I'm feelinggoing back to. You know, what
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I was saying about is part ofyour process, just kind of whatever you're
feeling at the time. For me, it's looking at the outline and saying,
okay, I I can write tochapter five. So I don't write
literally when I'm writing non fiction.I do when I'm writing fiction. I
feel like I have to because I'mI'm so anal about my fiction writing that.
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I just wanna make sure the consistencyis there because I have been in
a situation where I made a changemaybe in chapter thirteen, but I had
to go back to the prior chaptersto make what I did in chapter thirteen
makes sense. And that is stressfulfor me because remember I'm not ch ch
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ch very regimented. Yes, uh, no surprises here, you know,
just write it down, have theoutline, and write to it. Not
a panster at all. But Iappreciate pansters and how they do it.
I'm fascinated by them, and Il and that's the beauty of writing.
I know, it's it's however wayit strikes you and writ is is the
way to go there. There's noright or wrong answer to it. Look,
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we have such a long history,right even you know, h high
school. Yeah, and I thinkabout how we were even trained then as
writers, right yeah. And Idon't know if you remember, but everything
was outline. Mm, ladies,get your out. So that's what we
got in from w W. Everythinghad to have that. And I understand
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the rationale to help us again toorganize our thoughts to you know, stick
to the head or whatever that topicis. But I think now it's okay
to give yourself the permission to say, if I want to skip two chapters
and go to chapter ten and thencome back, Oh I need to make
a you know, a change inchapter one to have that flexibility, Yeah,
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to do so, don't be soregiment right in your writing that you
don't give yourself that personal space tolet whatever those creative juices flow the way
they should. Right. Where canpeople go to get more information about you
and the movement, the you gotthis power Up Boss movement, Life Boss
(22:45):
Power Life, Power Up Life BOSmovement. Where where can they go to
get more Well, they can goto my website www dot Pamela p A
M E. L A R.Brown, V R O W and E
dot com. I have to addthat e yes because of course people are
(23:06):
used to spelling it without and they'relike, oh, I can't read at
the okay, okay, So peoplecould go there to get more information.
And do you have a timeline ofwhen you think the book will come out?
Well, I'm working on it nowand my goal is to have the
launch at the end of the yearto kick off or cut a fresh January
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always, you know, represents newgrowth, going forward, letting go of
the past, grabbing hold of thenews. So don't have time, okay.
Shout out to Julia Cameron, whois the author of The Artist's Way,
and also Elizabeth anc High School ElizabethRight, who taught us how to
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does is Messias is not sad thos, I not sasas
Hello, dreaming people, Welcome backto the Haven. I'm here today with
my good friend Pamela R. Brownto talk about her Power Up Life movement
that focuses on igniting your personal powertowards achieving greatness. Pamela is an impact
leader, speaker, strategist, author, and the founder of Power Up Life
(01:17):
Boss book series that strives to trainand provide support to professionals. Her message
focuses on leading from a platform ofexcellence to encourage, empower, equip and
elevate. So, without further ado, joining me in welcoming my dear friend
(01:37):
Pamela to the Haven. Hello,So thank you one hundred for coming to
the Haven. Thank you finally gotit together and here we got together.
So happy. So this is yourbook? You got this now? This
(02:01):
is actually the Journal for Intentional Living. And I know you're working on a
book, but let's talk about howthis came to be. What inspired you
to put together this journal? Andwe'll talk a lot more in depth about
the journal itself, but what inspiredyou to create it and publish it?
(02:23):
Wow? Well, again, thankyou for having me and for the opportunity
you got. This came about afteryears and years and years of traveling our
country and working with clinicians in particularand teaching them and being a resource to
them on how to work with theirclients, how to work with their patients.
And after a session, after aworkshop, a seminar, I would
(02:46):
always end it by telling them andencouraging them and saying, you got this
MM, meaning you can go outand serve the people that you're supposed to
serve, the other clinicians, theother patients. But in that process I
also told them about the power ofjournaling, journaling, writing your feelings,
what's going on with you, especiallybecause I said, therapists need therapy and
(03:09):
counselors need counseling M and one ofthe ways to UH channel those feelings in
a healthy way is through journaling.So after a couple of sessions, I
heard people say, you tell usthe journal, but I don't have a
journal. You don't have one.No, they would tell me that they
(03:30):
yeah, I would say, atthe end of our training, you know,
talk about the power of journaling MM. But they would say, you
tell us talking about me, Youtell us, you encourage us to journal,
but I don't have a journal.Journaling is not cool? What is
it about this? Journal. Sothat was part of the inspiration, like,
(03:51):
how can I tell people to journalbut they don't have the tools and
the instruments to do it. Kay, So that was part of the inspiration
of you got this. Wow.So, I mean it's it's been it's
it's a fact and it's been studiedthat journaling and writing your feelings in terms
of mental health is a very verypositive thing to do. It. It
(04:14):
can one hundred percent help you inwhatever type of crisis, or not even
crises, or I could just beyou sharing your most intimate personal thoughts and
writing it down and writing it kindof sorting through whatever it is that you're
focusing on. So I mean it, I know that there have been studies
done about that. Talk more aboutthat defining moment that happened in your life,
(04:41):
that that personal tragedy that happened inyour life, that that further prompted
you to to put that thought ofpublishing this kind of book and the importance
of it. Yeah. I Idid have a personal tragedy with a coworker
many years ago, and he wasa psychologist, and he was the life
(05:04):
of the office, the life ofthe party, and just very unassuming and
you know, like I said,brought us so much joy. And so
one after coming back to work ona Monday after a long weekend, and
I was like, well, whereis he not like And we shared office.
We shared an office, so wereally became like family because we were
(05:26):
sharing that workspace. Yeah, andI said, just assume. I said,
well, maybe he just took offa day, Maybe sick Tuesday comes
he doesn't show. I was like, no, this is not like him.
Two days in a row, threedays. I was like, still,
he's not in the office. SoI remember later that day, on
(05:47):
that Wednesday, I got some unfortunatenews at the time from my supervisor that
he had committed suicide. Mm.And when I tell you, it was
like someone had literally punched a holein my stomach. That pain MM and
I really had a hard time processingit. And he wasn't from this area,
(06:10):
so it also entailed me being incontact with his f uh family.
He was from the Midwest. SoI was tasked at that time to gather
all of his personal belongings in theoffice and preparation to take back to his
family. Going through his things,there was a small journal. Never saw
it while we worked together. Soand I was just like, let me
(06:33):
see what he's gotten in here.And he had all kinds of things about
the work that we did, thingsto do. He write like he would
even journal one in one word,how he felt for the day, what
was going on. But there nearthe end of that journal, there was
a note that said, we gottahave help for the helping professionals. Mm.
(06:58):
We have to have help for thehelping professionals, right, And that
resonated with me because I thought aboutthat. I said, we do need
help as the helping professionals, Butwhere do we get our help from m
Because a lot of the work thatwe did was dealing with and addressing trauma
every day. So where was ouroutlet beyond talking to your coworker where we
(07:24):
could comfortably talk about it? Journaling? And so he modeled that and I
didn't even know he was journaling.And again that even was part of the
inspiration yea for the book. Yeahyeah, So in the book itself and
and it's uh from the Power UpLife Boss series. Talk to us about
(07:45):
what that is, what that means? Well, Power Up Life Boss is
the umbrella for the entire book series. So rather than calling it each I
said everything will fall under power,cause that's what I'm looking at, looking
at what you're internal power is.And I know a lot like the trends
are using the term in power,but I really believe that we all have
(08:07):
our own innate sense of power.So as a matter of igniting it,
powering it up, you know whatyou have. Rather than looking at other
places for your source, take alook at what's going on inside the internal
and let's reflect upon that and thenhow do I make my power shine?
(08:28):
Wow? So in the workshops thatyou do, and I know that you've
traveled and you've done a lot ofworkshops based on this premise, just in
a very basic way, tell ouraudience what the process is for doing that.
(08:50):
I mean conceptually, I I couldunderstand it, it resonates, but
how does one actually take the stepsto ignite the fire within, so to
speak, to power up. Ithink one thing that I have found over
the year's valorie is people feeling comfortablewith spending time with self. Mm In
(09:11):
our lives, we can be verybusy with good things and with bad times
that we're so busy, but itwas something when you take that time to
reflect, to spend time with yourself. I do an exercise It's called a
SWAT exercise as WoT and the acronymstands for strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and
(09:33):
threats. Right, And so goingthrough that SWAT exercise, even as a
personal tool, focus is you syou helps you to focus on who me,
well, what are my strengths,what are my weaknesses? What do
I consider as an opportunity? Andcertainly what are the threats that are going
(09:54):
on around me? The research isabsolutely phenomenal cause each time I do that
exercise, I'll ask the audience,I'll say, which was the easiest category
for you to complete? MM?Many times more hands are raised for I
can identify my strengths. Many peoplecan go through that. But then when
we start looking at MM, wellwhat are my weaknesses and what is considered
(10:18):
an opportunity in my life right now? And then threats? Time, resources,
maybe I want to go back toschool, you can take threats.
And so that's how that journal helpsyou to organize your thoughts. It helps
you to plan, It helps youto have that outlet as well as that
(10:41):
tool for preparation to grow forward.And notice I said grow forward, my
go forward, right, But togrow forward, right, So it it
it basically facilitates that process absolutely ofworking through those things. And it takes
us certain level of self awareness toreally be honest with yourself when you're jotting
(11:07):
down those four categories of things andand really delving deep into yourself to to
really find those those points. Andso once you find those points, how
do you use them in order toignite to empower yourself? Well, I
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think one thing should wait for thebook. Well that is gonna be expounding
upon that. But when you havethe journal, your journal becomes like your
safe space. Mm, yeah right, yeah, it becomes that space that
I may not have felt comfortable insaying something. But your journal is just
that, it's your journal. It'syour safe space. So when you look
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at it that way, you canput and write anything in your journal.
But I do a lot of researchemotional intelligence. And when we were talking
about the swat analysis right and lookingat self, Well, the theory of
emotional intelligence by psychologists Daniel Goleman isbased upon four concepts. The one is
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self awareness, second is self management, third is social awareness, and the
fourth is relationship management. And sowhen you look at that in the concept
of emotional intelligence, and you addjournals and other tools in it. Emotional
intelligence is how you're thinking and howyour mindset drives your attitude and your behavior.
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Well, if I have a toollike a journal that can help me
to channel that, most likely I'mgonna make wiser decisions. Most Likely I'm
gonna spend time with myself to lookat the pros and the cons of situations.
Most likely I'm gonna have again thatsafe space to even write out my
plans. The power of journaling.Wow, that that's very, very interesting
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and amazing to really have a toolthat you can use that will help others
to focus on the things that Ithink are absolutely worth taking the time to
do in your journey as a person, in your journey and life and the
relationships that you touch. One otherthing that you mentioned indirectly in terms of
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using writing as therapy. There there'sso many different ways of doing it.
I actually was in a class thatfocused on journaling. Actually, my prior
guest, Sandra Mannigoldt, had turnedme on to a writer who I cannot
remember her name, but very prominentwriter. The artist's way is a a
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concept in the theory that she introduced. I think maybe twenty five years ago,
but in that class, because Iactually recently took the class that she
had been telling me years and yearsand years and years ago to you should
you should read the book, youshould take the class. So I took
the class and journal writing was avery, very big component of it.
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So flipping it back to where weare today in our discussion about journal writing,
one of the things that I heardin our classes because we were supposed
to write every day, break upand boom, you're vomiting on the page.
And even if you didn't know whatto write, you had to write
something. And they said, ifyou don't know what to write, just
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write I don't know what to write, and just keep writing that until something
comes to your mind to write about. So having that as a potential challenge
for people who may be in theworkshop, who may be okay with the
of it, but are having problemsdoing it, how do you address that?
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Well, one thing I tell peopleis the one of the best benefits
of journaling is it's not scripted,right, meaning that you're not required to
write one page, two page whatever. I te tell people, write from
your soul and if you spend timereflecting and writing from your soul. You'll
each day varies, each journal entryvaries. Yeah, it might be just
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one word across the fabulous it wasjust a great day. Then there might
be that next entry that might beyou could spend two three four pages of
just writing and writing and like yousaid, vomiting getting it out. But
then it helps you again with yourreflection and growing forward because you can have
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with that journal you can look like, well, what was I thinking about
in January MM of twenty twenty three. You've got your notes about yourself captured
and that's, yeah, what whatwas going on with me back in I
was supposed to be spending time reflectingand gain new goals together new year.
Where am I now? It's we'regoing into the last quarter now in twenty
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twenty three. But it helps youto just again to look at yourself to
keep yourself on track, you know, and it's you could have re you
know, regressed in some things,but then there are a lot of times
when many people have progressed and goneforward, and then you can applaud yourself
and say, hey, look whereI was then, but here I am
now. Yes, yes, sooh, let's talk a bit about the
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book that you're writing. It's nonfiction, so it's it's a genre that I
don't have many authors on to talkabout, uh, but a very important
genre. Nonetheless, this is selfhelp, motivational, inspirational kind of writing.
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Talk to me a little bit aboutyour process in delving into it.
Mm. Well, I think oneof the things for me is my mindset
creating that space for me to letthose creative juices flow. Yeah, I
do my best and near the water, okay, listening to the water,
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the waves, walking across the shorelinein any time of the year, I
can beat that. That's I don'tknow what it is about that space,
but that does it for me.So even if I physically can't be at
Rehove with beach or myrtle beats onof my favorites. Now we have apps,
yes, right, so I canat least turn on the sound of
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the waves of you know, therain drops and so forth, which against
helps my mindset to get me intothat place. That's a very good point.
I know some authors that create soundtracksbased on whatever the theme is for
what they're writing. I don't personallydo it, but I'm fascinated by people
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who do. You know. Soif someone's doing a period piece, they'll
find music from that period and they'llhave that kind of playing in the background
as they're writing, and and itinspires their writing and and so it it's
just great to hear how different writersengage into that process. Now, would
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you say you're a a person thatoutlines first and then you write to the
outline or do you just kind ofbeing you're inspired by the sounds and whatever
you're feeling about in terms of writingat that time? Do you write linearly?
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Do you like? What what isthe what is it? What is
the process that you use to anythinkfor For everything I write, even as
I mentioned to you, I'm astudent, everything is m it's just not
scripted. For me. It's notit's not scripted. It's really what's going
on. Well again with my mindsetand whatever it is that I'm writing about.
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So music is a great influence forme. So just like just cooling
out and just saying okays, Sothat influences my thoughts. Yeah, but
I have to have the journal becausethoughts come to me quickly. And you
know how it is, you canbe at the red light. Oh my
goodness, that's a great title forthe book light Chase is great, Grab
the journal, write that down sothen when I get home and get settled,
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I can go back now where Iwrote it, yeah, and revisit
it. Yeah. So again thepower of why we lead journals. Yeah,
yeah, that that's one hundred hearyou. So some other writers that
I've had on and myself included,cause I wrote two non fiction books.
Again, you know my I'm sI'm very regimented in my writing, which
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is probably stressful to some people ifif when you hear about it, because
I I do outline the hell outof my whatever it is i'm writing,
whether it's fiction or nonfiction, Aand N. And then for the nonfiction
stuff I may have, chapter oneis about this, chapter two is about
this, and whichever chapter I'm feelinggoing back to. You know, what
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I was saying about is part ofyour process, just kind of whatever you're
feeling at the time. For me, it's looking at the outline and saying,
okay, I I can write tochapter five. So I don't write
literally when I'm writing non fiction.I do when I'm writing fiction. I
feel like I have to because I'mI'm so anal about my fiction writing that.
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I just wanna make sure the consistencyis there because I have been in
a situation where I made a changemaybe in chapter thirteen, but I had
to go back to the prior chaptersto make what I did in chapter thirteen
makes sense. And that is stressfulfor me because remember I'm not ch ch
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ch very regimented. Yes, uh, no surprises here, you know,
just write it down, have theoutline, and write to it. Not
a panster at all. But Iappreciate pansters and how they do it.
I'm fascinated by them, and Il and that's the beauty of writing.
I know, it's it's however wayit strikes you and writ is is the
way to go there. There's noright or wrong answer to it. Look,
(21:38):
we have such a long history,right even you know, h high
school. Yeah, and I thinkabout how we were even trained then as
writers, right yeah. And Idon't know if you remember, but everything
was outline. Mm, ladies,get your out. So that's what we
got in from w W. Everythinghad to have that. And I understand
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the rationale to help us again toorganize our thoughts to you know, stick
to the head or whatever that topicis. But I think now it's okay
to give yourself the permission to say, if I want to skip two chapters
and go to chapter ten and thencome back, Oh I need to make
a you know, a change inchapter one to have that flexibility, Yeah,
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to do so, don't be soregiment right in your writing that you
don't give yourself that personal space tolet whatever those creative juices flow the way
they should. Right. Where canpeople go to get more information about you
and the movement, the you gotthis power Up Boss movement, Life Boss
(22:45):
Power Life, Power Up Life BOSmovement. Where where can they go to
get more Well, they can goto my website www dot Pamela p A
M E. L A R.Brown, V R O W and E
dot com. I have to addthat e yes because of course people are
(23:06):
used to spelling it without and they'relike, oh, I can't read at
the okay, okay, So peoplecould go there to get more information.
And do you have a timeline ofwhen you think the book will come out?
Well, I'm working on it nowand my goal is to have the
launch at the end of the yearto kick off or cut a fresh January
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always, you know, represents newgrowth, going forward, letting go of
the past, grabbing hold of thenews. So don't have time, okay.
Shout out to Julia Cameron, whois the author of The Artist's Way,
and also Elizabeth anc High School ElizabethRight, who taught us how to
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outline very very well. Uh andso Dreamcatchers, thank you for being on,
Thank you for having me, youfor tuning in and being a big
part of the Haven Circle. Itis my hope that you are inspired in
your writer's journey as we peel backthe layers and get to the heart of
this writer's game. I hope thisseason continues to inspire you to finish your
(24:12):
book, your script, or atthe very least helping you to lay down
the tracks to complete it. Andas always, you can stream us on
any of our nine streaming platforms,including iTunes, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Alexa
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(24:37):
visit our website at www dot writersHeaven Show dot com and you can
also follow me on Instagram and Twitterat author v Helena or on Facebook at
v Helena. Keep me posted onyour progress and perhaps I'll see you in
the Haven. Now, I wannashare some exciting news that many of you
(24:57):
have already heard, but I wannamake sure where everybody get the deats.
So here it is. The Havenis going international in a very, very
big way. Phoenix Rising Entertainment haspartnered with Virgin Voyages to host a writers
and readers escape aboard the Scarlet Lady. I love, love love that cruise
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line. It's an opportunity for writersto retreat into their work and for readers
to hobnob with some of their favoriteauthors, and to also get information that
they may want to hear about howto ignite their writer's journey or continue to
(25:40):
grow in it. You'll find thedetails on our website at www dot Writers
Havenshow dot com. So check itout, and I hope to see you
there, Sea see you there.So that's it for now, and until
next time, catch fire on purpose. In each does is this, It
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does is Messias is not sad thos, I not sasas
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