September 11, 2025 • 57 mins
Moon Man is Bart Sibrel’s revealing memoir recalling his harrowing journey investigating what really happened during America’s famous “Apollo” missions. It features truly hair-raising and life-threatening encounters with agents from the US government’s secret agencies. Sibrel’s memoir divulges, for the very first time, his real-life espionage adventures while uncovering one of the CIA’s greatest secrets, including Sibrel’s discovery of privately recorded audio of an Apollo astronaut plotting his assassination by the CIA, which would not be necessary if the Apollo missions were real.
Moon Man also exposes, for the very first time, the official CIA Code-Name for the real Apollo project, the military base where the first fake Moon landing was filmed, as well as the names of fifteen US government scientists and officials who were recorded in attendance for the first Moon landing falsification, some of whom are still alive today. This highly revealing information was provided to Sibrel by the Chief of Security of this secretive military base, who finally confessed his regrettable participation in this despicable government fraud on his deathbed.
Bart Sibrel is an award-winning filmmaker, writer, and investigative journalist, who has produced television programs and documentaries for over forty years. He has been employed by two of the three major US networks, worked as a television news reporter, and has produced segments for ABC, NBC, and CBS. Sibrel regularly speaks as a guest commentator regarding the Moon landing fraud, and has appeared as such on NBC, FOX, CNN, and HBO to discuss his films “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon” and “Astronauts Gone Wild”.
Bart Sibrel grew up as a devout supporter of the supposed Moon landings, yet over the years, gradually began to recognize their unfortunate falsification. In Sibrel’s mind, the claim that astronauts walked on the moon on the very first attempt with antiquated untried 1960s technology, when today with five decades of more advanced technology the US can only send astronauts one-thousandth the distance to the Moon, simply defies logic. Sibrel is convinced that until the Moon landing fraud is exposed, the governments of the world will continue deceiving the people under their care until their eventual demise.
Sibrel.com
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-x-zone-radio-tv-show--1078348/support.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
Moon Man also exposes, for the very first time, the official CIA Code-Name for the real Apollo project, the military base where the first fake Moon landing was filmed, as well as the names of fifteen US government scientists and officials who were recorded in attendance for the first Moon landing falsification, some of whom are still alive today. This highly revealing information was provided to Sibrel by the Chief of Security of this secretive military base, who finally confessed his regrettable participation in this despicable government fraud on his deathbed.
Bart Sibrel is an award-winning filmmaker, writer, and investigative journalist, who has produced television programs and documentaries for over forty years. He has been employed by two of the three major US networks, worked as a television news reporter, and has produced segments for ABC, NBC, and CBS. Sibrel regularly speaks as a guest commentator regarding the Moon landing fraud, and has appeared as such on NBC, FOX, CNN, and HBO to discuss his films “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon” and “Astronauts Gone Wild”.
Bart Sibrel grew up as a devout supporter of the supposed Moon landings, yet over the years, gradually began to recognize their unfortunate falsification. In Sibrel’s mind, the claim that astronauts walked on the moon on the very first attempt with antiquated untried 1960s technology, when today with five decades of more advanced technology the US can only send astronauts one-thousandth the distance to the Moon, simply defies logic. Sibrel is convinced that until the Moon landing fraud is exposed, the governments of the world will continue deceiving the people under their care until their eventual demise.
Sibrel.com
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-x-zone-radio-tv-show--1078348/support.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh hnry. Welcome to the exisode, a place where fact
is fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now here's your host, Robert Kanno. You do in that
thing YouTube, bringing my hearty into a million pieces.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Like you always do.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And you don't need.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To be cool in there, even about the party.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I comnswer.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Chime chip it gets you there again time.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Thank good evening one and all, and welcome back to
the X Zone. My name is Rob mcconnlin. For the
next hour, I'm going to be your host and your
guide as together we cross the time space continuum to
this place that I call the X Zone. It's a
place where people dare to believe and dare to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And the xxone is coming to you from our broadcast
(01:35):
center and studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on your
hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty
dot CA.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
My guest this hour.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Exponation is a gentleman I've had the pleasure of knowing
for many years. His name is Bart Sibrel Bart. You
may have heard of Bart, you may have seen his videos.
This is the gentleman who wrote and produced very very
interesting video called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way
to the Moon. Maybe you We'll get into that a
little later on, but the main topic of tonight's show
(02:11):
is Bart's latest book entitled Moonman, The True Story of
a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List. Joining me now
is Bart, Sibarell and Bart, Welcome back to the excellent
Al was great talking to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, thank you, Rob. How's going up in Canada?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well, it's kind of getting cold up here, my friend.
And yesterday we had that that event at the Rainbow
Crossing Rainbow Bridge where there was an explosion on the
US side, a car hit a barrier and blew up,
and they shut down all the bridges from Canada to
the United States throughout in Niagara, which would have been
the Lewiston Bridge, the Rainbow Bridge, the Peace Bridge, and
(02:48):
the bridge from Fort Erie over to Buffalo. So it
was quite an event, but everything was settled, everything was investigated,
no signs of terrorism, and the bridges are back open today,
so things are pretty good here.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know, as I'm listening to you had described that
I remember that event that just happened was on the
national news on every network in the United States. And
what happened a few years ago when the entire Canadian
US border was closed down for a week because people
were protesting the dictatorship of governments that call themselves democracy.
(03:26):
Do you realize that was not reported a single time
for an entire week on any major news network in
the United States, but one car exploding on the border
was You would think the United States, a Canadian border
being blocked by protesters would be national news number one
story for a week. They didn't even mention it. They
(03:46):
mentioned the President got a new cat, So isn't that interesting?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, but you know how the media is bart for
the listeners who may not have had the pleasure of
listening to on the xcell before them. A little bit
about who Bart Sebrel is.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I am a filmmaker. I started out actually as
an actor, and then when I realized that I was
treating a total stranger's words like gospel, I thought, well,
I could write a play. So I started writing plays.
I started making those into short films. Someone who had
a hotel saw one and said, hey, we need someone
(04:26):
to do our TV commercial, And that was when I
started my video production company producing TV commercials, documentaries, music
videos and the like, and I kind of stumbled upon
what I'm known for, my most famous or infamous film,
which you can see for free on the homepage at
sibrel dot com. It's just SS and Sam I be
(04:48):
as a boy r e l sibrel dot com. It's
a film about the unfortunate truth that yes, indeed, the
moon landings were falsified by the corrupt federal government. And
when I listened to your intro Rob about how fact
is fiction, well, that's the case of this. They alleged
(05:09):
fact as they went to the Moon, but that's a fiction,
and the fiction that it was done, you know, on
Earth in a studio that actually is true. And we
have so much incontrovertible proof that the Moon missions were fake.
And I originally turned down the project because so much
of it seemed plausible that maybe they really did fake it.
(05:31):
Keep in mind, my job as a filmmaker is to
make fake scenes look real, and I noticed that those
scenes that they claim were in natural sunlight on the
Moon were absolutely shot with electrical light, which means they're
on Earth. And that kind of planted a seed in
my mind you know, that's kind of strange, and then
(05:52):
you realize that today, with fifty years better technology than
in nineteen sixty nine, the farthest NASA can send an
astronaut into outer space is only one thousandth the distance
to the Moon. So what they're really claiming is fifty
years ago ahead of schedule. On the first attempt, when
(06:13):
all of NASA combined had one million at the computing
power cell phone, they sent astronauts a thousand times farther
then they can send him today with fifty years better technology.
So what they're really saying is, for the first time
in history, technology was greater in the past than in
the future. But that's a historic and scientific impossibility. If
(06:35):
it weren't for people's emotional attachment to the glorious event,
they would see the truth. In fact, I did Glenn
Beck's radio show not too long ago, and he's an
alleged anti corruption, anti deep state person, but his thought is, well,
I know how bad America is, but at least we
went to the moon. And then he has on an
astronaut and kisses his feet for an entire hour, not
(06:59):
realizing that that and accomplished to several homicides that I
know of, for covering up people who were going to
expose the moon landing. And so this is horrendous. This
is the state of the world, this is the state
of our government, and it's outrageous that they're that arrogant.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Bart do you think with the technology they have today,
as well as what they've learned a both the Van
Allen Belt and the radiation that has been affecting astronauts
even in the Shuttle aircraft. Shuttle missions that they will
and can go back to the Moon, or I shouldn't
say back to the moon. Can go to the Moon
this time?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
No, they can't. I mean, for example, in nineteen forty
five they exploded the first atomic bomb in the history
of the world. Just ten years later atomic bombs were
one thousand times more powerful. So if we could go
to the Moon on the first attempt with one million
at the computing power a cell phone, we would have
(07:57):
been on Mars. Ten years later. We've been another solar
system by now, and there'd be bases all over the Moon.
There are bases at the South Pole right now, which
by the way, took six attempts to reach here on Earth.
And somehow they did it on the first attempt to
ad a schedule, and it has one hundred mile per
hour winds one hundred degrees below zero. But there are
(08:17):
bases there because it's humanly possible. If it were humanly
possible to go to the Moon, there'd be bases there.
We'd have been on Mars a long time ago. In fact,
the latest alleged Moon mission they sent an unmanned probe
with mannekins to orbit the Moon. Okay, so fifty four
years ago we can play golf and drive cars on
(08:39):
the Moon, and with fifty four years better technology, we
can't even send humans to orbit the Moon. We have
to use mannequins. And the reason is you alluded to
it rike space radiation that they would have to travel through.
And my book, which is on audio, I read it
myself kinderlaprint at sibrel dot com Interactive book. There are
(09:01):
sixteen video clips at sebral dot com you can watch
for free. Now. I basically write a chapter and say, look,
if you want to understand the next chapter, go watch
video link one, video link two. And one of the
clips is just mind blowing. We have a NASA employee
saying that the technology necessary for an astronaut to go
(09:22):
to the Moon and back and survive the radiation has
yet to be invented. He's saying it on camera. I mean, so,
if the technology to go to the Moon and back
has yet to be invented, then how did they do
it in nineteen sixty nine. It just boggles the mind.
And then when I try to talk to the guy
as a journalist, they refuse to let him talk to anybody,
(09:44):
and they set Geiger counters up into the radiation field
and I said, give me those readings. They say it's
a secret, And I'm like, why would the temperature of
the Sun, or the amount of helium in Jupiter's atmosphere,
or the amount of radiation surrounding the Earth be a secret?
Because if they release the it would prove that the
Apollo astronauts would have been killed going to the Moon
with the technology they had, because they still to this
(10:07):
day cannot go to the Moon.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, weren't the Russians on the Moon first with a
robotic mission?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
They crashed a probe to the Moon first, and then
they also landed a probe on the Moon about six
months before the Apollo eleven mission, But they never sent
humans to the Moon. In fact, the most industrialized country
on Earth, which is China, says to go from today
to the technology necessary for a man to walk on
(10:37):
the Moon is going to take twenty years. So how
could we with five decades older technology developed the technology
in eight and a half years, you see. And so
we point out that I found classified footage of the
crew of Apollo eleven faking part of the photography right
in front of your eyes, dated two days into the flight,
(10:59):
with the third track of audio telling them how to
do it from the CIA. The NBC News was going
to break this story nationwide. I worked for NBC News
and they said, this proves conclusively that we didn't go
to the Moon. This classified footage i't covered. I said,
I know, it's unbelievable. And then they get a call
from the federal government threatening them. They back down and
(11:20):
don't broadcast it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Why would then go ahead, Yeah, just go and ask
you bart, why would the CIA be involved in this
false flag Moon mission?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, I guess that's their forte I suppose. And so,
first of all, we have the logic you can't have
greater technology in the past and in the future. Secondly,
we have them faking part of the mission right in
front of your eyes. Thirdly, we have just go to
sebrel dot com watch the three minute video. I mean,
(11:51):
you can prove the moon landings are fake with one
photograph that they claim is on the moon. Were objects
five feet apart from one another. The sados diverge at
ninety degrees, when if it were taken in sunlight, they'd
be parallel and have her intersect you. I mean, you
can prove it right there and then believe it or not.
There was a gentleman by the name of Cyrus Eugene Acres,
(12:15):
and as he was dying in two thousand and four,
he confessed for fear of God that he was a murderer.
He worked at Cannon Air Force Base and Clovis, New Mexico.
The military police came in, they said, who did you kill?
He said, a coworker. Why did you kill him? Because
the coworker and I eye witnessed the filming of Apollo
(12:39):
eleven June, first, second and third, nineteen sixty eight at
Cannon Air Force Base and he was going to tell
the world because he thought it was morally wrong, and
I killed him to keep it a secret. We have
that testimony. So we have four incontrovertible proofs that the
Moon missions were fake, and people just don't want to
believe it. They're like Glenn Beckett's like, I know, a
(12:59):
may Erica is so corrupt and so fallen, but at
least we went to the Moon, and it's so easy
to fake. There's no independent press coverage. And Eugene Krantz,
who was flight director, said, all those guys in command
center can tell no difference whatsoever between a simulation and
(13:20):
an actual flight. And just because there were hundreds of
thousands of people involved doesn't mean they were in on
the secret. I mean, that's like saying Bank of America
has four hundred thousand tellers, So do they the bank
tellers and the CEO know the same about the corruption
in the bank. No, completely different.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Hey, Bart, you stand by my friend. We've got to
take our first break. Exspnation Bart Cebrello's our special guest.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What a guy.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
If you think this has been fascinating, wait until we
get Bart to talk about the astronaut that actually decked him.
Because he wanted to get the astronaut to put his
hand on the Bible and say that they actually went
to the Moon. None of the three astronaut le's we
do that. We'll be back on the other side of
this break as the XON continues right here on your
(14:04):
town Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty
dot CA. And welcome back to the Xcell and I'm
(15:14):
Rob McConnell and you're listening to the X Zone on
your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. A. My guess this hour is Bart Sibrel.
His website is sibrel dot com. That's s I B
R E L dot com.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Bart.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Before we went to the break, I was just doing
a little bit of a teaser for the audience about
the astronauts that you tried to get them to put
their hand on the Bible and swear that they went
to the Moon, and not one would do it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, there was an atheist who did it, but the
people who believed in God would not do it. And
basically after we produced the funny thing happened on the
Way to the Moon, which by the way, was financed
by a multimillionaire who builds rockets for NASA, who knows
(16:09):
that the missions are fake. Okay, he gave us a
million dollars to expose it because he thought it was
his patriotic duty, and after the film came out, four
to five people reversed their opinion after watching the forty
five minute movie, which you can see for free at
sibrel dot com, largely because of this footage we uncovered.
(16:31):
I've shown it in theaters and people just gasp when
the lights come up and you see they're using a
one foot model of the Earth that's allegedly floating in
space and it's not. And so I guess from courtroom
TV shows as a kid, I thought, well, why not
just track down some of these astronauts and see if
they'll swear on a Bible. So he tracked down about
(16:52):
nine of them and asked them to swear on the Bible,
including Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins from the
First Mission, and none of them would do it. Now, Rob,
if I walked on the Moon and someone thought it
was all done in a TV studio, you know, I
would find that hysterically funny. And if they wanted me
to smear on a Bible that I really did, I'm like, sure,
(17:12):
would two Bibles make you feel better. But when I
went up to buzz Aldrin, and that's the famous puncturt
around the world, it was like I walked up to
him in front of his wife and said, oh, your
mistress says Helo, you see a sword with no point
causes no injury. And he reacted because we had live
(17:32):
TV cameras there and we were exposing him for the
liar that he is. And it's too bad. You know,
if one person only claimed to have walked on the Moon,
maybe they would have told the truth by now. But
if one confesses, it's really inadvertently forcing everyone else to
confess as well. And that film is called Astronauts Gone Wild.
(17:53):
After all, one astronaut punched me, another one kicked me,
one threatened to punch me, one threat to shoot me.
And it gets even better. I showed this classified footage
to Edgar Mitchell and his house. He turned beat red.
He said, where did you get this footage? Get out
of my house, and he literally kicks me from behind
(18:13):
as I'm picking up my equipment. He saw angry cursing.
This is a guy supposed to be some peace in
love guru. And in the commotion we left a high
quality wireless microphone on him, and in the commotion, my
camera man forgot to hit stop record. So while the
camera's in the backseat of the rental car and the
astronaut's house driveway, while he and his son are in
(18:36):
their house with the doors closed, we're recording their conversations.
And about three months after the fact, we did transcripts
of all the interviews, and the film secretary calls me
up frantic and says, Bart, Bart, do you know what
they're talking about? When you left the microphone on them
and you know you turned and came back and got it.
(18:56):
I'm like, I don't know what. She says. They're talking
about calling this CIA to have you assassinated. I'm like, you,
that's funny. This is no Bart. They're talking about calling
the CIA to have you killed. And I'm like, that's funny.
She said, Bart, you're not listening to me. They're calling
talking about calling the CIA to have you killed, And
(19:16):
sure enough they are. Do you want to call the
CIA and have him whacked? Now? F i'd some silly
person who thinks the moon missions are fake and we're
done at a TV studio, Why with the CIA? Care?
You see what I'm saying, and not only do we
have an eyewitness to the filming of the moon landing,
which was the chief of security at the Cannon Air
(19:39):
Force Base, which was the headquarters of their intelligence division.
He personally stood beside President Johnson June first, nineteen sixty eight,
and President Johnson gave him a list of fifteen VIP
visitors who were allowed to come in and observe. We
published that list in my book at sibrel dot com,
some of whom are still alive today, some of whom
(20:01):
presumably are CIA agents.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I remember watching your both your movies. A funny thing
happened on the way to the Moon and then astronauts
gone wild, And wasn't it edgar Mitchell's son who said,
should I call the CIA and have him whacked?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's right, he's talking about that with his father. First
of all, why would an apollo astronaut have the CIA
and his roller decks right exactly? If it's a quote,
you know, civilian mission. And maybe he's knocked off people
before and told the son about it and boasted about it.
And there's a scripture it says when someone issues a
(20:39):
curse that the person does not deserve, it will fall
back on their head. So the young man who suggested
to his Apollo astronaut father that he have me killed
later died of cancer at the age of twenty six.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Oh, my lord bart, how could something as big as
the moonhak be suppressed?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well, it's actually one of the easiest secrets to keep.
The secret. The number one answer I hear why the
Moon missions must be real is four hundred thousand people
were involved. But that's Do you really think the CIA
is so stupid to tell the person making the glove
or the door handle or the boot they were really
not going to the moon. Be sure not to tell anybody.
Like I said, there's four hundred thousand bank tellers at
(21:25):
Bank of America, but they are clueless about the corruption
that the CIA knows. And there's no independent press coverage.
Do you realize that it's not like World War Two
that's going on in front of billions of people here
on Earth or even nine to eleven. It's a TV
picture controlled by their Richard Nixon administration. Do you see
that we have to take their word for it and
(21:49):
there's no independent press coverage whatsoever. It's actually one of
the easiest things to fake. Plus people wanted to believe it.
You know, whoever killed can the guy's still dead, whoever
did nine to eleven? All those people are dead. This
is different. This is a positive lie. And you take
him candy away and given someone a big plate of
(22:12):
manure instead, and they will defend that candy, just like
Glenn Beck defending the candy defending murderers on his show.
It's pretty sad.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Tell us about your book, moon Man, The True Story
of a filmmaker on the CIA hit List.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, it took me about fifteen years to ride. It
took me about two years to edit. Basically, you know,
the funny thing happened on the way to the Moon
that took seven years to produce. An Astronaut's Gone Wild
took three years. All this added up to about a
million dollars, and people wanted to know the backstory. And
there's an incredible backstory. We've talked about it on your
(22:54):
show before. In two parts. I think basically I was
giving them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, the shadows intersect,
and yeah they can't repeat it. All this, you know,
years later, but it's still I still need concrete proof.
And then as I'm editing the film, winding it up,
I pop in a tape and says do not show
to the public. Came on the screen. I'm like, oh,
(23:15):
this should be good. So I hit fast forward and
it's the same shot for five minutes, ten minutes, twenty minutes.
It's a special effect shot of allegedly they're Earth floating
in space. The lights come up and it's really a
one foot model. They're faking being halfway to the moon.
And there's a third track of audio of the CIA
(23:36):
telling him to fake a four second radio delay to
make it appear that they're farther away from Earth orbit
than they really are. This is what convinced in BC
News that they did not go to the moon. One
news director was afraid to broadcast it for fear would
causes civil war, that it would enrage the public. Even
though nine to eleven killed more people, even though the
(23:58):
JFK assassination and witness lists probably more people were knocked off,
this is different. This is burned in people's hearts with pride.
They got down on their knees and prayed, They waved
their flag, they teared up, They held ticker tape parades.
They printed it on coins, they printed on stamps. They
gave them medals of honor for being such good liars,
(24:22):
and that is our country. I'm sad to say that's
the truth of it. Now.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Now, when was the lunar landing? Lunar mission supposed to
have happened in?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What year? That was nineteen sixty nine. They launched on
July sixteenth and allegedly walked on the Moon on the twentieth. However,
it was filmed a little more than a year earlier
at Cannon Air Force Base. According to eyewitness Cyrus Eugene Acres,
I mean, as you're dying, you've got nothing to lose,
you're not going to confess that you're a murderer of
(24:52):
all things right. And then when the military police asked
him why he did it, his son, who was my sword,
who was writing all this down, said well, we're covering
up the moon landing fraud which was filmed at our base.
They built a fake moonlanding set, threatened to kill anybody
who told anybody about it. In fact, less than two
years ago, when I'm confirming all this information with his son,
(25:16):
two CIA agents show up to the guy's house and
threatened to kill him and his family if he ever
talks to me again about his father's participation in the
moon landing falsification. And this is our government. I mean,
you have to understand, according to the dead man's relatives, Okay,
Bobby Kennedy Junior, his uncle was killed by the CIA.
(25:37):
Now the Kennedy family has more access to knowledge about
that event than Oliver Stone does. And if they say
he was killed by the CIA, I believe him. And
that Robert mcnamer. As he was dying, he said the
whole reason the Vietnam War started, the Pearl Harbor event,
that we needed the Gulf of tonkn We just made
(25:58):
it up and never happened. Congress passed the law the
Gulf of Talking Resolution, based on something the CIA made
up that led to the death of fifty eight, two
hundred twenty Americans. So if they're willing to kill fifty
two hundred and twenty of their own soldiers, willing to
kill their own president, I think they're willing to fake
(26:18):
an image of the moon on television, don't.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You, Rob, I certainly do it. And my question to you,
Bert is President Kennedy was supposed to, or believed to
be a very upfront person. You know he put his
brother Bobby in as an attorney general who went after
the mob and you know, tried to shut everything down.
That was that was no go What didn't Kennedy try
(26:43):
to abolish the CI at one time?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Absolutely, that was one of the things he was probably
going to do, maybe not by the end of the year,
but probably by the springtime. He says, there was going
to break it into so many parts and scatter it
to the wind. He said, there's no purpose for us
having this. All right, you said, their entity of their
own that's lawless.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Okay, here's my question. Is it possible that part of
the reason why Kennedy was assassinated on November twenty second
back in nineteen sixty three is that he caught wind
that the moon landing was going to be hoaxed?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well, actually, it's I don't know if it's in my
book or not. To tell you the truth, they have
to go back and look. But and two thousand and nine,
I got a contact who was in the Kennedy administration
in the White House, at an office in the White House,
and they sent me a document about the Kennedy administration
(27:43):
discussing the possibility of having to fake the moon landing
to keep the goal, and so they were talking about
faking it much sooner than I thought. I don't think
Kennedy would have gone along with that. I think the
main reason he was killed is he was going to
get rid of the CIA. Therefore the CIA killed him,
and he was going to abolish the Federal Reserve, which
(28:06):
are the billionaires and so forth, who would lose billions
and billions of dollars trillions over the course of fifty
years if the US started printing their own money by
their own authority rather than Bart.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Stand by my friend, we've got to we've got to
take great we got to take our break here at Bart.
Bart Sibrel is our guest. Sibrel dot Com is his website.
This is the X one with yours Turley Rob McConnell,
coming to you from our broadcast centers in Saint Catharines, Ontario.
On you ready for this Hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty
www Dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA A.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Game is.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was born in the wagon of a traveling show.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Mamma used to dance all the money in dom do
whatever I.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Radel little Gospel.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Sell Dot.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Welcome back everyone, Bart Sebrella is our special guest. His
website is sibrel dot com, s I, B R E
L dot com and this is the ex soon on
your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty stream us. Visit our
website at www dot Classic twelve twenty dot ca A Bart,
have you ever had any close calls, I mean besides
(29:45):
the one that that you know we know about with
the CIA or any other nefarious organization with alphabet behind
their names.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, my book, I think is twelve and two chapters
are devoted to my encounters with the CIA. The first
one is called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way
to CNN. So basically, after I found this incredible footage
of them faking part of the moonish and right in
front of your eyes, I just wept. I'm like, oh
(30:19):
my gosh, they really did fake the moon landing. How
sad is that? And then I panicked. I'm like, oh
my gosh, I got proof they faked the moon landing
in my house with a toddler son and a blind roommate.
What have I gotten myself into? And I immediately drive
to CNN in the middle of the night, and then
I'm surrounded in the back alley of CNN by government
(30:42):
agents who literally abduct me. They confiscate these high end
broadcast stapes. They're not the original, of course, and they
drugged me with true serum to the point of vomiting,
and I escaped their custody. I made my way back
to Nashville, where I lived at the time, and I
peed in a cup. I said, I got him, I
(31:03):
got true serum in me. I'm going to prove to
NBC you know that I was drugged by some exotic
drug only the CIA would have. I give it to
a friend to put in a lab in his name,
thinking I can now wit the CIA. And after a
couple of days go by, I follow up and I said, well,
what were the lab results? He said, well, there was
(31:24):
a problem at the lab and I'm like, well what problem?
He said, well they had a break in over the
weekend and I'm like, yeah, so what he said, Well,
funny thing, the only thing stolen was your your example.
So somehow the spooks from the CIA tracked that down
and found out about it. Anyway, despite me, you know,
(31:45):
trying to be secretive about it. That was probably you know,
it was a multi day adventure there it's outlined in
my book at sebral dot com, which again I read
myself an audiobook or kindle or print, and it was
pretty hairy there for a while. I had kind of
a little bit of trouble ten years later when I
(32:06):
got that White House document from a source at the
Kennedy administration. Had a bunch of strange things happened then,
and it seemed like every now and then, I'll run
into somebody who seemed suspicious to me. And of course,
when I was editing the book, my source the son
of Cyrus Eugene Acres. I mean, he literally was threatened
(32:26):
by the CIA to kill him and his family. And
this actually involved the White House. White House did an investigation,
a senator on the United States Intelligence Committee did an investigation,
and so did the FBI regarding my book regarding my
findings regarding the moonlanding being fake. Of course, they didn't
(32:47):
publish any of this, but that's what happened. And this
is very serious because the second to the last chapter
is called NASA's Greatest Fear. And when I had a
millionaire backing me, I mean, the film took seven years
because of all the research we did, and I had
amazing information that I was asked not to put in
(33:10):
the film to release at a later date, and that
information is in the book, one of which is my
four hour interview with Betty Grissom, who is the widow
of Gus Grissom, who was going to be the first
man to walk on the Moon until he became a
whistleblower at NASSA. In fact, days before he was killed,
(33:30):
he brought in reporters all the way up the elevator
to the top of the rocket without permission, and to
fixed the lemon the size of a grapefruit, to the
top of the rocket and had the newspapers take a
picture of it. The man who's going to be the
first man to walk in the moon says, the equipment
is a piece of junk. It's a lemon. A few
days later, his widow, who I interviewed for four hours, said,
(33:53):
on January twenty sixth, nineteen sixty seven, he came home
from work and said, on for some string reason, the
CIA is all over the launchpad today, inspecting the equipment.
I wonder why they're here. I've never seen him here before.
The very next day, the guy's dead. From quote Faulty equipment.
So she is saying, and her son is saying, who's
(34:15):
a seven to forty seventh pilot, that they have one
hundred percent forensic evidence that he was murdered by the CIA.
So not only is our government taking a third of
our income to deceive us about the moon landing, then
they're using that money to hire CIA agents to kill
our brethren who are trying to expose their crimes. And
(34:37):
it's my understanding, Rob, that the first document of the
United States wasn't the Constitution, it was the Declaration of Independence,
where it was proclaimed throughout the world that when any
government becomes destructive of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,
it is the right of the people to alter or aboliship. Well,
what's the first one life. They're murdering their own people,
(35:00):
not my conspiracy theory, that's the testimony of the dead
man's wife. So this is the state of the world.
And it's amazing people who are anti corruption, anti deep
states still defend the moon landing. It just boggles the mind.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Bart I still have a hard time trying to understand
why the CIA is involved, because according to what I understand,
they are not supposed to be operating within the United States.
They're supposed to be operating outside of the United States.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, they killed Kennedy in Dallas, so there's some proof
right there. And of course they violate the law all
the time. They're not supposed to assassinate leaders. And that
they boast in the Wall Street Journal. We killed this
democratically elected president of this country. We killed the democratically
elected president of this They boast about it. They boast
about breaking the law. Congress passed the law in nineteen
(35:55):
ninety eight to audit the Pentagon. Twenty years go by
without an audit. They just ignore the law and no
one calls them on it. William Bennie or from the nssay,
the CIA's offshoot for thirty years, he said on National
TV a few years ago. The CIA monitors, the private
cell phoned conversations of Supreme Court justices in order to
(36:19):
get dirt on them, to blackmail them to vote the
way the intelligence agencies tell them to vote. That's an
established fact. No one contradicted it. Not a single investigation
by the FBI or Justice Department that Supreme Court justices
are being blackmailed. How can that be? But that's the
way that it is.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
So, what do you think is going to happen now
that the missions are being planned to go back to
the Moon.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, they can't go, and they're going to keep postponing
it and tell an asteroids strike or economic collapse or
another illness circling the globe, and which point no one
will care who shot JFK or if the moon landings
are real or not.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
That's scary, Bart.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, it's the world that we live in. You know.
Jesus said that things will get so bad in the
last days that unless God intervenes, no one will survive.
I take that to mean that the evil people are
gonna win. I mean they killed Kennedy in broad daylight.
They knocked up two hundred eye witnesses. They got away
with the Golf of Tonkin, they got away with the
(37:22):
moon landing, they got away with nine to eleven, They
got away with this little thing. For the last three years,
they're just more and more entrenched, and more and more powerful,
and more and more experts at what they want to
achieve through evil means. The problem for them is what
good is it to gain the world and forfeiture soul
so that they'll have the world as it's crumbling away,
(37:44):
but they won't make it to the other side, and
I feel sorry for them.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Part. Do you think that the movie Capricorn one was
was produced to give the Americans the idea that the
moon lending could have been faked?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Absolutely? People in Hollywood like me. We saw the lighting
is electrical lighting. The average person can't see that. We said, look,
this is done in a TV studio, this is not sunlight.
So there was a book called We Never Went to
the Moon by Bill Casey, my original source at NASO,
and they basically parodied fake Mars landing because they didn't
(38:25):
want to say fake moon landing that would be too offensive.
So and it had all the top people in the seventies,
I mean the top build people that had Elliott goul
Brenda vacar, Hal Hobrooke, Sam Waterson, James Brolin, Karen Black.
It had Telly sabalasaid, it's just a star after star,
a great movie. Simpsons.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah no, I was saying that the the movie also
had oj Simpson. And of course if the space fit,
if the space suit doesn't, if the space suit doesn't fed,
you can't convict.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah. Yeah, well you know, I'm not sure what that means.
It seems like the guy was a different person back then.
You know, there's a saying in conversion that someone is
born again, and apparently people can be unborn, because when
I look at O. J. Simpson's face and demeanor and prior,
(39:22):
you know, nineteen seventy eight or prior, he has complete
innocence about him. Yes, and yet something happened. He was
transformed the opposite direction apparently, and didn't work out too
good for him.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
No, he should have been he should have stayed making
the naked gun movies. They were theater. Listen quickly, we've
got to take a break in about three minutes. What
was your opinion on the congressional hearings into UAPs and UFOs.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, I think that's that's ridiculous. I think they're planning
on doing an alien deception. Von Braun, the guy in
charge to faking the Moon mission, his closest friend. Before
he died, She said he told her multiple times that
the federal government is going to fake it an the innovasion.
In fifty four years, only one source has come out
(40:17):
saying the moonlandings are fake. As he was dying and
his son was threatened with death for being associated with him.
Why are all these military people coming forward and quote
leaking information unless it's contrived because of it really a secret,
we wouldn't know anything about it. And so except maybe
(40:37):
a deathbed confession, and only one in fifty years. So
they want us to believe in aliens, which is I
believe proof that it's not true. If you go to
sibrel dot com, I've written an extensive article about are
there aliens? Are they real or not? And you'd be
surprised of the findings.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Explanation. Bart Sebrella's are a special guest to this hour.
His website is sibrel dot com. Sibrel dot com. Do
you believe that there are ets out there that they're
coming here?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, they've pointed radio telescopes for fifty years in every
direction of the universe and they haven't found one radio signal.
You see, normally, the truth is the exact opposite of
what the corrupt government wants us to believe. They want
us to believe aliens are everywhere. What if we're in
the latest scientist says we're in. If there were intelligent
(41:33):
life elsewhere, then we would pick up radio signals and
the only radio signals in the whole universe are coming
from Earth. At the same time, UFOs are real, So
what does that mean? The top two UFO researchers, one
Frenchman one American, after forty years of research, came to
the same conclusion. UFOs are real, but they're not from
(41:54):
outer space, they're from Earth. And thirdly, they're demonic.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Demonic, that's right, let's talk.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Meaning that aliens are potentially fallen angels.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Well, let's talk about this when we come back from
this final break, Bart, because I had a guest on
a couple of nights ago who said the exact same thing.
Another guest I had on oh maybe two three four
weeks ago said that with the advent of AI that
the government was in fact going to simulate an alien attack. Wow,
(42:31):
all this is starting to come together. Bart, Sibrel's our guest,
sibr e l is the website and we'll be back
on the other side of this break as we finalize
this edition of The X Zone with Here's truly Rob
McConnell from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
and you're listening to the X Zone on your hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dot cal.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Saw a couple of bottles of doctor Lawn from the
before a sound and call.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Sam Forever Night of a Mount.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Hey lady, you lady cursing in your life.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You're a discontented mother and a rich invented wife. I
have no doubt you dream about the things you never do.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
But I wish someone had talked to me like I
want to talk to you who have been to Georgia
and California anywhere.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I could run.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Excellent radio. Bart Cebrells my special guest sibr l dot
com and he's the author of Moonman, The True Story
of a Filmmaker on the CIA hit List, And you're
listening to us on the let me see here, my gosh,
I went blank there for a second home talk Radio
(44:25):
Classic twelve twenty and you can listen to us streaming
around the world. Visit our great website. Find out what
other shows are available on the station. Great Morning Show
with Stephen danny Z. Then you've got a drive home
show with Pete dickteror there's some sports shows. My good
(44:46):
buddy Chuck Leflur is the news director and all this
and more at www dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Before we went to the break, we were talking about angels,
fallen angels, and it seems that a lot of the
religious philosophies are pointing at these days as the final days.
(45:09):
How does this correlate with what you believe and what
you see?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Bert Well? Originally, like I mentioned before, I turned down
the project of making the film about the moon landings
being faked because it seemed like they could have been
faked and if I looked into it, it might be dangerous.
So I turned it down, and over the next several
years I read the Bible five times in cover to cover.
(45:33):
I wasn't a Christian, but it did develop in me
and understanding that there is good versus evil, there is
truth versus lies, and it makes sense that there's a
judgment for how we live this life. And I realized
that if they faked the moon landing, that is actually
more profound historically than if they had actually gone. Do
(45:55):
you realize that the faking of the moon landing by
the alleged greatest nation on Earth, the most honorable, the
savior of the world, the spreader of truth and democracy,
freedom of speech. Blah blah blah. They fake the moon landing,
that's the nation that did it. That is so much
more profound than if they had actually gone. And when
I realized that was true, I said, this is worth
(46:17):
dying for. It's an important truth for mankind to know.
And I have a lot of Jewish friends, and even
though I'm a Christian or try to be, most of
my Jewish friends are more Christian than my Christian friends are.
A lot of the time. They're very righteous people, very
down to earth, and their rabbis, their prophets say that
(46:43):
the Messiah is coming soon, and of course our book
says the Messiah is coming soon. They think it's the
first time, we think it's the second time. But it's
still at the same time, which is to me highly significant.
I think we are living in the last days. If
you go to sibrel dot com scrolled down about halfway,
you'll see this very detailed article I wrote about aliens,
(47:07):
and it has a link in there for von Braun's
secretary saying he warned her multiple times that there's going
to be a fake alien invasion. And it appears to
me that these are actually fallen angels There are some
controversial parts in Genesis six where it says that the
(47:29):
sons of God Elohim and are married with the daughters
of men and it produced giants. The offspring were giants. Now,
in Jesus's day, that's what they believed, but around eighteen
fifty they changed that theology to means something else. I
think it means what it says. The oldest book in
the Bible is actually job the term angels, which was
(47:52):
when it says the angels presented them before God. It's
the same word us there in Genesis, so that's what
it means. And so people say, well, Jesus said, we
won't get married in heaven, will be like the angels.
But then, of course getting married and having sex or
two different things, because you can have sex without being married.
You can be married and not have sex. So they're
(48:14):
kind of jumping to a conclusion there because it sounds
a little bit odd. But if you look at Genesis
three point fifteen, it says that there will be war
between two bloodlines, the blood line of Adam and the
bloodline of fallen angels Lucifer, and I don't think it's
a coincidence that all but one of the United States
(48:36):
presidents come from the same bloodline. I think they're proticting
that bloodline. I think the reason why alien abductions often
harvest people's sperm and eggs is because the fallen angel
offspring are sterile. It says in Leviticus nineteen nineteen, do
not cross breed species. And when you do, against God's command,
(49:00):
when you take a horse and a donkey to get
a mule, the mule is sterile. And I think they
have to re harvest human eggs and sperm in order
to repopulate themselves. And that's why God said be fruitful
and multiply, and the people who around the world say,
(49:20):
depopulate the earth by ninety four percent. You see. So
I think this is what's going on, as odd as
it may seem, as bizarre as it may seem, that's
likely what's going on. And of course Satan, he's a liar,
and all those angels are liars. How can you prove
or disprove if an alien pops down in a spacecraft
(49:43):
or what appears to be a spacecraft and says they're
from you know, hundreds of light years away, how can
you prove or disprove it if they've been around for
thousands of years and they have thousands of years of technology,
maybe it can fly and the air and under the water,
and you know, who knows what. But they're not going
to tell the truth. They're liars. The fact, people in
the military who have said they've met aliens say they're liars.
(50:05):
They're pathological liars. And so I think maybe this is
one of the ways they're going to usher in a
one world government. Again, just go to sibrel dot com,
scroll down about halfway and you can see this articles
that I spent hundreds of hours of writing and researching,
and has multiple clips in it as well that seemed
(50:26):
to indicate that we're it. In fact, there's a TV
show called Ancient Aliens, right, and I thought it. I
thought it was a one time show. Apparently it was
a series for many years, and they basically had to
admit because of this DNA study about twenty years ago
called the Eve Project, where they took DNA from all
nationalities and traced it backwards in time and said all
(50:50):
humans scientifically came from one woman, just like the Bible says.
So people who want to deny God say, well, how
can we deal with that, because that's exactly how can
how can a person just appear and have no lineage
before them, just like the Bible. So they said, Okay,
we can't say that's not true because it's right here
on the DNA. Okay, here's a good one. Why don't
(51:10):
we say we were put here by aliens? Now, in
three and a half years, they never asked a question
that I would ask as a third grader. Well, if
we were made by aliens, then who made the aliens?
And they forget in the Book of Isaiah, chapter fourteen,
I think it says Lucifer wanted to ascend to the
throne of God and be God. So if they're saying
(51:34):
the world is saying, the latest scientific you know, theology
is saying we were made by aliens, And if aliens
are really fallen angels which are led by Lucifer, then
what they're really saying rob is were made by Lucifer
and not God. You see Lucifer taking what do you
call it, credit for making mankind and that's what the
(51:56):
latest intellectuals believe. Can you believe that? Not?
Speaker 4 (52:00):
Really?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Stephen Stephen Greer is either a you know, an agent
or completely deceived because his number one source that aliens
are real are the Apollo Astronauts. The guy says the
moon landings are fake. I mean, we're real when they're
clearly fake. And his number one proof that the that
aliens and UFOs must be real is the Apollo astronauts.
(52:23):
Say so well, edgar Mitchell goes on you know, TV
show after TV show saying UFOs are real and the
moon landing is real. So I guess they're just about
as real as the moon landing.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Something that I can't understand, Bart, And when you alluded
to the advancement of technology of the of the Luciferians,
why do they need to keep on abducting people? If
they're this smart, would they have not decoded the DNA,
put it in a bank somewhere and then recreated it
(52:55):
as needed?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Well maybe, so maybe that's what they're doing, because all
the alien abduction stories I heard are from the eighties
and I haven't heard any since then. So yeah, maybe
they are getting more advanced. I don't know. But if
you go to you know, do a Google search for
World Economic Forum logo. This is a multi billion dollar
organization that admits to picking the leaders of the world
(53:19):
openly says, we choose the leaders of the world, and
they can spend a billion dollars on their logo if
they want to. And they have World on one line
has an O in it, Economic on another line, little
off center has an O in it, and Forum has
an O in it, and a little half circle going
through all three o's forming six sixty six hidden in
(53:40):
plain sight. Apparently these people literally worship Lucifer. And that's
not the only logo that has six to sixty six
in it. Google does, and many other have three six's
in them that It's just bizarre. You would think that
would be the most outrageous thing, But the most outrageous
things is a being true, like the moon landings were
(54:02):
indeed fake, and apparently the world leader some of them
actually worshiped the devil.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
I had a guest on many years ago. His name
is Pastor Harry Walter, and he was saying to us
during the show, he said, did you know rob six'
sixty six is not the mark of The? DEVIL i, said,
well what do you? Mean he, said it's. Www I'm
i'm sure about that.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
One in case who knows what it. Is the interesting
thing About revelation thirteen is it says in the last,
days everyone rich and, poor slave and free would be
forced to buy and sell with sixty sixty six on.
It pick up a barcode of a can of super
box of. Cereal there's a first, line a middle, line
(54:49):
and a last line that are longer without a, number
they're the same. Line and if you see a sixth
somewhere in the, code you can look above it and
to the, left and that's the thickness of the. Sixth every,
barcode believe it or, not starts with a six as
a six in the middle and ends with a. Six
it's not denied it. Does they just say it's a.
(55:09):
Coincidence so forced to do something is different than volunteeringly do.
It like IF i push your shoulders down to, kneel
that's not you willingly, kneeling is. It so if you're,
forced you can't buy, anything even A bible without a.
Barcode so that's not our. Fault SO i don't think
we're going to be judged on. That but this is
a prophecy right. There everyone is being forced to buy
(55:34):
and sell with six sixty six on. It it's remarkable
it's right there in The, bible and it's right there
in every barcode of everything in the.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Store, bart we've got one minute. Left what is the
message that you would like to leave with the Excell nation.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
TONIGHT i don't. KNOW i, MEAN i used to think
the moon missions were real with all of my, heart
but the truth is so. IMPORTANT i Watched men In
black three for like the fifth time last, night and
it says the bitterest truth is better than the sweetest.
Lie if you really have an open, mind go to
sibrel dot. Com s is in sam ib as in
(56:08):
BOY r E l sabrel dot, com get the, book
an audio print or kindle and there's sixteen video links
and you will have the, revelation the, epiphany just LIKE i.
Did they really did fake the moon. Landing it's worse
than we. Thought all that is at sibrel dot.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
Com you know that opens up a cannib. Wormspart if
they faked the moon, landing what else has been?
Speaker 1 (56:34):
FAKED i don't. KNOW i think you're in the next.
ROOM i don't really think you're In.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Canada, well, yeah it's your turn to make the coffee
after the show Part SEBRELL i want to thank you
very much for joining us. Tonight all was a great
pleasure talking to, you AND i look forward to the
next time you join us back here in THE X
or stay, safe my, friend you, Too. Rob goodnight. Part
that's it for tonight's EX O. Nation i'll be back tomorrow.
Night as once again we crossed the time space can
(57:00):
continuum to this place THAT i call the, xone a
place where people dare to believe and dare to be.
Heard it's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is.
Reality And, wow as you heard, tonight a lot of
eyes are open thanks To Bart. Sibrel visit his website
cybrel dot. Com I'm rob. McConnell this is THE X
(57:20):
zone and you've been listening to us On classic twelve
twenty here In Saint catharines online at www Dot classic
twelve twenty DOT. Ca so until tomorrow, night keep your
eyes to the sky and your heart to the. Light
Good night, everyone
Oh hnry. Welcome to the exisode, a place where fact
is fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now here's your host, Robert Kanno. You do in that
thing YouTube, bringing my hearty into a million pieces.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Like you always do.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And you don't need.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To be cool in there, even about the party.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I comnswer.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Chime chip it gets you there again time.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Thank good evening one and all, and welcome back to
the X Zone. My name is Rob mcconnlin. For the
next hour, I'm going to be your host and your
guide as together we cross the time space continuum to
this place that I call the X Zone. It's a
place where people dare to believe and dare to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And the xxone is coming to you from our broadcast
(01:35):
center and studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on your
hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty
dot CA.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
My guest this hour.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Exponation is a gentleman I've had the pleasure of knowing
for many years. His name is Bart Sibrel Bart. You
may have heard of Bart, you may have seen his videos.
This is the gentleman who wrote and produced very very
interesting video called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way
to the Moon. Maybe you We'll get into that a
little later on, but the main topic of tonight's show
(02:11):
is Bart's latest book entitled Moonman, The True Story of
a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List. Joining me now
is Bart, Sibarell and Bart, Welcome back to the excellent
Al was great talking to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, thank you, Rob. How's going up in Canada?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well, it's kind of getting cold up here, my friend.
And yesterday we had that that event at the Rainbow
Crossing Rainbow Bridge where there was an explosion on the
US side, a car hit a barrier and blew up,
and they shut down all the bridges from Canada to
the United States throughout in Niagara, which would have been
the Lewiston Bridge, the Rainbow Bridge, the Peace Bridge, and
(02:48):
the bridge from Fort Erie over to Buffalo. So it
was quite an event, but everything was settled, everything was investigated,
no signs of terrorism, and the bridges are back open today,
so things are pretty good here.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know, as I'm listening to you had described that
I remember that event that just happened was on the
national news on every network in the United States. And
what happened a few years ago when the entire Canadian
US border was closed down for a week because people
were protesting the dictatorship of governments that call themselves democracy.
(03:26):
Do you realize that was not reported a single time
for an entire week on any major news network in
the United States, but one car exploding on the border
was You would think the United States, a Canadian border
being blocked by protesters would be national news number one
story for a week. They didn't even mention it. They
(03:46):
mentioned the President got a new cat, So isn't that interesting?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, but you know how the media is bart for
the listeners who may not have had the pleasure of
listening to on the xcell before them. A little bit
about who Bart Sebrel is.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I am a filmmaker. I started out actually as
an actor, and then when I realized that I was
treating a total stranger's words like gospel, I thought, well,
I could write a play. So I started writing plays.
I started making those into short films. Someone who had
a hotel saw one and said, hey, we need someone
(04:26):
to do our TV commercial, And that was when I
started my video production company producing TV commercials, documentaries, music
videos and the like, and I kind of stumbled upon
what I'm known for, my most famous or infamous film,
which you can see for free on the homepage at
sibrel dot com. It's just SS and Sam I be
(04:48):
as a boy r e l sibrel dot com. It's
a film about the unfortunate truth that yes, indeed, the
moon landings were falsified by the corrupt federal government. And
when I listened to your intro Rob about how fact
is fiction, well, that's the case of this. They alleged
(05:09):
fact as they went to the Moon, but that's a fiction,
and the fiction that it was done, you know, on
Earth in a studio that actually is true. And we
have so much incontrovertible proof that the Moon missions were fake.
And I originally turned down the project because so much
of it seemed plausible that maybe they really did fake it.
(05:31):
Keep in mind, my job as a filmmaker is to
make fake scenes look real, and I noticed that those
scenes that they claim were in natural sunlight on the
Moon were absolutely shot with electrical light, which means they're
on Earth. And that kind of planted a seed in
my mind you know, that's kind of strange, and then
(05:52):
you realize that today, with fifty years better technology than
in nineteen sixty nine, the farthest NASA can send an
astronaut into outer space is only one thousandth the distance
to the Moon. So what they're really claiming is fifty
years ago ahead of schedule. On the first attempt, when
(06:13):
all of NASA combined had one million at the computing
power cell phone, they sent astronauts a thousand times farther
then they can send him today with fifty years better technology.
So what they're really saying is, for the first time
in history, technology was greater in the past than in
the future. But that's a historic and scientific impossibility. If
(06:35):
it weren't for people's emotional attachment to the glorious event,
they would see the truth. In fact, I did Glenn
Beck's radio show not too long ago, and he's an
alleged anti corruption, anti deep state person, but his thought is, well,
I know how bad America is, but at least we
went to the moon. And then he has on an
astronaut and kisses his feet for an entire hour, not
(06:59):
realizing that that and accomplished to several homicides that I
know of, for covering up people who were going to
expose the moon landing. And so this is horrendous. This
is the state of the world, this is the state
of our government, and it's outrageous that they're that arrogant.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Bart do you think with the technology they have today,
as well as what they've learned a both the Van
Allen Belt and the radiation that has been affecting astronauts
even in the Shuttle aircraft. Shuttle missions that they will
and can go back to the Moon, or I shouldn't
say back to the moon. Can go to the Moon
this time?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
No, they can't. I mean, for example, in nineteen forty
five they exploded the first atomic bomb in the history
of the world. Just ten years later atomic bombs were
one thousand times more powerful. So if we could go
to the Moon on the first attempt with one million
at the computing power a cell phone, we would have
(07:57):
been on Mars. Ten years later. We've been another solar
system by now, and there'd be bases all over the Moon.
There are bases at the South Pole right now, which
by the way, took six attempts to reach here on Earth.
And somehow they did it on the first attempt to
ad a schedule, and it has one hundred mile per
hour winds one hundred degrees below zero. But there are
(08:17):
bases there because it's humanly possible. If it were humanly
possible to go to the Moon, there'd be bases there.
We'd have been on Mars a long time ago. In fact,
the latest alleged Moon mission they sent an unmanned probe
with mannekins to orbit the Moon. Okay, so fifty four
years ago we can play golf and drive cars on
(08:39):
the Moon, and with fifty four years better technology, we
can't even send humans to orbit the Moon. We have
to use mannequins. And the reason is you alluded to
it rike space radiation that they would have to travel through.
And my book, which is on audio, I read it
myself kinderlaprint at sibrel dot com Interactive book. There are
(09:01):
sixteen video clips at sebral dot com you can watch
for free. Now. I basically write a chapter and say, look,
if you want to understand the next chapter, go watch
video link one, video link two. And one of the
clips is just mind blowing. We have a NASA employee
saying that the technology necessary for an astronaut to go
(09:22):
to the Moon and back and survive the radiation has
yet to be invented. He's saying it on camera. I mean, so,
if the technology to go to the Moon and back
has yet to be invented, then how did they do
it in nineteen sixty nine. It just boggles the mind.
And then when I try to talk to the guy
as a journalist, they refuse to let him talk to anybody,
(09:44):
and they set Geiger counters up into the radiation field
and I said, give me those readings. They say it's
a secret, And I'm like, why would the temperature of
the Sun, or the amount of helium in Jupiter's atmosphere,
or the amount of radiation surrounding the Earth be a secret?
Because if they release the it would prove that the
Apollo astronauts would have been killed going to the Moon
with the technology they had, because they still to this
(10:07):
day cannot go to the Moon.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, weren't the Russians on the Moon first with a
robotic mission?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
They crashed a probe to the Moon first, and then
they also landed a probe on the Moon about six
months before the Apollo eleven mission, But they never sent
humans to the Moon. In fact, the most industrialized country
on Earth, which is China, says to go from today
to the technology necessary for a man to walk on
(10:37):
the Moon is going to take twenty years. So how
could we with five decades older technology developed the technology
in eight and a half years, you see. And so
we point out that I found classified footage of the
crew of Apollo eleven faking part of the photography right
in front of your eyes, dated two days into the flight,
(10:59):
with the third track of audio telling them how to
do it from the CIA. The NBC News was going
to break this story nationwide. I worked for NBC News
and they said, this proves conclusively that we didn't go
to the Moon. This classified footage i't covered. I said,
I know, it's unbelievable. And then they get a call
from the federal government threatening them. They back down and
(11:20):
don't broadcast it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Why would then go ahead, Yeah, just go and ask
you bart, why would the CIA be involved in this
false flag Moon mission?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, I guess that's their forte I suppose. And so,
first of all, we have the logic you can't have
greater technology in the past and in the future. Secondly,
we have them faking part of the mission right in
front of your eyes. Thirdly, we have just go to
sebrel dot com watch the three minute video. I mean,
(11:51):
you can prove the moon landings are fake with one
photograph that they claim is on the moon. Were objects
five feet apart from one another. The sados diverge at
ninety degrees, when if it were taken in sunlight, they'd
be parallel and have her intersect you. I mean, you
can prove it right there and then believe it or not.
There was a gentleman by the name of Cyrus Eugene Acres,
(12:15):
and as he was dying in two thousand and four,
he confessed for fear of God that he was a murderer.
He worked at Cannon Air Force Base and Clovis, New Mexico.
The military police came in, they said, who did you kill?
He said, a coworker. Why did you kill him? Because
the coworker and I eye witnessed the filming of Apollo
(12:39):
eleven June, first, second and third, nineteen sixty eight at
Cannon Air Force Base and he was going to tell
the world because he thought it was morally wrong, and
I killed him to keep it a secret. We have
that testimony. So we have four incontrovertible proofs that the
Moon missions were fake, and people just don't want to
believe it. They're like Glenn Beckett's like, I know, a
(12:59):
may Erica is so corrupt and so fallen, but at
least we went to the Moon, and it's so easy
to fake. There's no independent press coverage. And Eugene Krantz,
who was flight director, said, all those guys in command
center can tell no difference whatsoever between a simulation and
(13:20):
an actual flight. And just because there were hundreds of
thousands of people involved doesn't mean they were in on
the secret. I mean, that's like saying Bank of America
has four hundred thousand tellers, So do they the bank
tellers and the CEO know the same about the corruption
in the bank. No, completely different.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Hey, Bart, you stand by my friend. We've got to
take our first break. Exspnation Bart Cebrello's our special guest.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What a guy.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
If you think this has been fascinating, wait until we
get Bart to talk about the astronaut that actually decked him.
Because he wanted to get the astronaut to put his
hand on the Bible and say that they actually went
to the Moon. None of the three astronaut le's we
do that. We'll be back on the other side of
this break as the XON continues right here on your
(14:04):
town Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty
dot CA. And welcome back to the Xcell and I'm
(15:14):
Rob McConnell and you're listening to the X Zone on
your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. A. My guess this hour is Bart Sibrel.
His website is sibrel dot com. That's s I B
R E L dot com.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Bart.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Before we went to the break, I was just doing
a little bit of a teaser for the audience about
the astronauts that you tried to get them to put
their hand on the Bible and swear that they went
to the Moon, and not one would do it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, there was an atheist who did it, but the
people who believed in God would not do it. And
basically after we produced the funny thing happened on the
Way to the Moon, which by the way, was financed
by a multimillionaire who builds rockets for NASA, who knows
(16:09):
that the missions are fake. Okay, he gave us a
million dollars to expose it because he thought it was
his patriotic duty, and after the film came out, four
to five people reversed their opinion after watching the forty
five minute movie, which you can see for free at
sibrel dot com, largely because of this footage we uncovered.
(16:31):
I've shown it in theaters and people just gasp when
the lights come up and you see they're using a
one foot model of the Earth that's allegedly floating in
space and it's not. And so I guess from courtroom
TV shows as a kid, I thought, well, why not
just track down some of these astronauts and see if
they'll swear on a Bible. So he tracked down about
(16:52):
nine of them and asked them to swear on the Bible,
including Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins from the
First Mission, and none of them would do it. Now, Rob,
if I walked on the Moon and someone thought it
was all done in a TV studio, you know, I
would find that hysterically funny. And if they wanted me
to smear on a Bible that I really did, I'm like, sure,
(17:12):
would two Bibles make you feel better. But when I
went up to buzz Aldrin, and that's the famous puncturt
around the world, it was like I walked up to
him in front of his wife and said, oh, your
mistress says Helo, you see a sword with no point
causes no injury. And he reacted because we had live
(17:32):
TV cameras there and we were exposing him for the
liar that he is. And it's too bad. You know,
if one person only claimed to have walked on the Moon,
maybe they would have told the truth by now. But
if one confesses, it's really inadvertently forcing everyone else to
confess as well. And that film is called Astronauts Gone Wild.
(17:53):
After all, one astronaut punched me, another one kicked me,
one threatened to punch me, one threat to shoot me.
And it gets even better. I showed this classified footage
to Edgar Mitchell and his house. He turned beat red.
He said, where did you get this footage? Get out
of my house, and he literally kicks me from behind
(18:13):
as I'm picking up my equipment. He saw angry cursing.
This is a guy supposed to be some peace in
love guru. And in the commotion we left a high
quality wireless microphone on him, and in the commotion, my
camera man forgot to hit stop record. So while the
camera's in the backseat of the rental car and the
astronaut's house driveway, while he and his son are in
(18:36):
their house with the doors closed, we're recording their conversations.
And about three months after the fact, we did transcripts
of all the interviews, and the film secretary calls me
up frantic and says, Bart, Bart, do you know what
they're talking about? When you left the microphone on them
and you know you turned and came back and got it.
(18:56):
I'm like, I don't know what. She says. They're talking
about calling this CIA to have you assassinated. I'm like, you,
that's funny. This is no Bart. They're talking about calling
the CIA to have you killed. And I'm like, that's funny.
She said, Bart, you're not listening to me. They're calling
talking about calling the CIA to have you killed, And
(19:16):
sure enough they are. Do you want to call the
CIA and have him whacked? Now? F i'd some silly
person who thinks the moon missions are fake and we're
done at a TV studio, Why with the CIA? Care?
You see what I'm saying, and not only do we
have an eyewitness to the filming of the moon landing,
which was the chief of security at the Cannon Air
(19:39):
Force Base, which was the headquarters of their intelligence division.
He personally stood beside President Johnson June first, nineteen sixty eight,
and President Johnson gave him a list of fifteen VIP
visitors who were allowed to come in and observe. We
published that list in my book at sibrel dot com,
some of whom are still alive today, some of whom
(20:01):
presumably are CIA agents.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I remember watching your both your movies. A funny thing
happened on the way to the Moon and then astronauts
gone wild, And wasn't it edgar Mitchell's son who said,
should I call the CIA and have him whacked?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's right, he's talking about that with his father. First
of all, why would an apollo astronaut have the CIA
and his roller decks right exactly? If it's a quote,
you know, civilian mission. And maybe he's knocked off people
before and told the son about it and boasted about it.
And there's a scripture it says when someone issues a
(20:39):
curse that the person does not deserve, it will fall
back on their head. So the young man who suggested
to his Apollo astronaut father that he have me killed
later died of cancer at the age of twenty six.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Oh, my lord bart, how could something as big as
the moonhak be suppressed?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well, it's actually one of the easiest secrets to keep.
The secret. The number one answer I hear why the
Moon missions must be real is four hundred thousand people
were involved. But that's Do you really think the CIA
is so stupid to tell the person making the glove
or the door handle or the boot they were really
not going to the moon. Be sure not to tell anybody.
Like I said, there's four hundred thousand bank tellers at
(21:25):
Bank of America, but they are clueless about the corruption
that the CIA knows. And there's no independent press coverage.
Do you realize that it's not like World War Two
that's going on in front of billions of people here
on Earth or even nine to eleven. It's a TV
picture controlled by their Richard Nixon administration. Do you see
that we have to take their word for it and
(21:49):
there's no independent press coverage whatsoever. It's actually one of
the easiest things to fake. Plus people wanted to believe it.
You know, whoever killed can the guy's still dead, whoever
did nine to eleven? All those people are dead. This
is different. This is a positive lie. And you take
him candy away and given someone a big plate of
(22:12):
manure instead, and they will defend that candy, just like
Glenn Beck defending the candy defending murderers on his show.
It's pretty sad.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Tell us about your book, moon Man, The True Story
of a filmmaker on the CIA hit List.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, it took me about fifteen years to ride. It
took me about two years to edit. Basically, you know,
the funny thing happened on the way to the Moon
that took seven years to produce. An Astronaut's Gone Wild
took three years. All this added up to about a
million dollars, and people wanted to know the backstory. And
there's an incredible backstory. We've talked about it on your
(22:54):
show before. In two parts. I think basically I was
giving them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, the shadows intersect,
and yeah they can't repeat it. All this, you know,
years later, but it's still I still need concrete proof.
And then as I'm editing the film, winding it up,
I pop in a tape and says do not show
to the public. Came on the screen. I'm like, oh,
(23:15):
this should be good. So I hit fast forward and
it's the same shot for five minutes, ten minutes, twenty minutes.
It's a special effect shot of allegedly they're Earth floating
in space. The lights come up and it's really a
one foot model. They're faking being halfway to the moon.
And there's a third track of audio of the CIA
(23:36):
telling him to fake a four second radio delay to
make it appear that they're farther away from Earth orbit
than they really are. This is what convinced in BC
News that they did not go to the moon. One
news director was afraid to broadcast it for fear would
causes civil war, that it would enrage the public. Even
though nine to eleven killed more people, even though the
(23:58):
JFK assassination and witness lists probably more people were knocked off,
this is different. This is burned in people's hearts with pride.
They got down on their knees and prayed, They waved
their flag, they teared up, They held ticker tape parades.
They printed it on coins, they printed on stamps. They
gave them medals of honor for being such good liars,
(24:22):
and that is our country. I'm sad to say that's
the truth of it. Now.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Now, when was the lunar landing? Lunar mission supposed to
have happened in?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What year? That was nineteen sixty nine. They launched on
July sixteenth and allegedly walked on the Moon on the twentieth. However,
it was filmed a little more than a year earlier
at Cannon Air Force Base. According to eyewitness Cyrus Eugene Acres,
I mean, as you're dying, you've got nothing to lose,
you're not going to confess that you're a murderer of
(24:52):
all things right. And then when the military police asked
him why he did it, his son, who was my sword,
who was writing all this down, said well, we're covering
up the moon landing fraud which was filmed at our base.
They built a fake moonlanding set, threatened to kill anybody
who told anybody about it. In fact, less than two
years ago, when I'm confirming all this information with his son,
(25:16):
two CIA agents show up to the guy's house and
threatened to kill him and his family if he ever
talks to me again about his father's participation in the
moon landing falsification. And this is our government. I mean,
you have to understand, according to the dead man's relatives, Okay,
Bobby Kennedy Junior, his uncle was killed by the CIA.
(25:37):
Now the Kennedy family has more access to knowledge about
that event than Oliver Stone does. And if they say
he was killed by the CIA, I believe him. And
that Robert mcnamer. As he was dying, he said the
whole reason the Vietnam War started, the Pearl Harbor event,
that we needed the Gulf of tonkn We just made
(25:58):
it up and never happened. Congress passed the law the
Gulf of Talking Resolution, based on something the CIA made
up that led to the death of fifty eight, two
hundred twenty Americans. So if they're willing to kill fifty
two hundred and twenty of their own soldiers, willing to
kill their own president, I think they're willing to fake
(26:18):
an image of the moon on television, don't.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You, Rob, I certainly do it. And my question to you,
Bert is President Kennedy was supposed to, or believed to
be a very upfront person. You know he put his
brother Bobby in as an attorney general who went after
the mob and you know, tried to shut everything down.
That was that was no go What didn't Kennedy try
(26:43):
to abolish the CI at one time?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Absolutely, that was one of the things he was probably
going to do, maybe not by the end of the year,
but probably by the springtime. He says, there was going
to break it into so many parts and scatter it
to the wind. He said, there's no purpose for us
having this. All right, you said, their entity of their
own that's lawless.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Okay, here's my question. Is it possible that part of
the reason why Kennedy was assassinated on November twenty second
back in nineteen sixty three is that he caught wind
that the moon landing was going to be hoaxed?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well, actually, it's I don't know if it's in my
book or not. To tell you the truth, they have
to go back and look. But and two thousand and nine,
I got a contact who was in the Kennedy administration
in the White House, at an office in the White House,
and they sent me a document about the Kennedy administration
(27:43):
discussing the possibility of having to fake the moon landing
to keep the goal, and so they were talking about
faking it much sooner than I thought. I don't think
Kennedy would have gone along with that. I think the
main reason he was killed is he was going to
get rid of the CIA. Therefore the CIA killed him,
and he was going to abolish the Federal Reserve, which
(28:06):
are the billionaires and so forth, who would lose billions
and billions of dollars trillions over the course of fifty
years if the US started printing their own money by
their own authority rather than Bart.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Stand by my friend, we've got to we've got to
take great we got to take our break here at Bart.
Bart Sibrel is our guest. Sibrel dot Com is his website.
This is the X one with yours Turley Rob McConnell,
coming to you from our broadcast centers in Saint Catharines, Ontario.
On you ready for this Hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty
www Dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA A.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Game is.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was born in the wagon of a traveling show.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Mamma used to dance all the money in dom do
whatever I.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Radel little Gospel.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Sell Dot.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Welcome back everyone, Bart Sebrella is our special guest. His
website is sibrel dot com, s I, B R E
L dot com and this is the ex soon on
your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty stream us. Visit our
website at www dot Classic twelve twenty dot ca A Bart,
have you ever had any close calls, I mean besides
(29:45):
the one that that you know we know about with
the CIA or any other nefarious organization with alphabet behind
their names.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, my book, I think is twelve and two chapters
are devoted to my encounters with the CIA. The first
one is called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way
to CNN. So basically, after I found this incredible footage
of them faking part of the moonish and right in
front of your eyes, I just wept. I'm like, oh
(30:19):
my gosh, they really did fake the moon landing. How
sad is that? And then I panicked. I'm like, oh
my gosh, I got proof they faked the moon landing
in my house with a toddler son and a blind roommate.
What have I gotten myself into? And I immediately drive
to CNN in the middle of the night, and then
I'm surrounded in the back alley of CNN by government
(30:42):
agents who literally abduct me. They confiscate these high end
broadcast stapes. They're not the original, of course, and they
drugged me with true serum to the point of vomiting,
and I escaped their custody. I made my way back
to Nashville, where I lived at the time, and I
peed in a cup. I said, I got him, I
(31:03):
got true serum in me. I'm going to prove to
NBC you know that I was drugged by some exotic
drug only the CIA would have. I give it to
a friend to put in a lab in his name,
thinking I can now wit the CIA. And after a
couple of days go by, I follow up and I said, well,
what were the lab results? He said, well, there was
(31:24):
a problem at the lab and I'm like, well what problem?
He said, well they had a break in over the
weekend and I'm like, yeah, so what he said, Well,
funny thing, the only thing stolen was your your example.
So somehow the spooks from the CIA tracked that down
and found out about it. Anyway, despite me, you know,
(31:45):
trying to be secretive about it. That was probably you know,
it was a multi day adventure there it's outlined in
my book at sebral dot com, which again I read
myself an audiobook or kindle or print, and it was
pretty hairy there for a while. I had kind of
a little bit of trouble ten years later when I
(32:06):
got that White House document from a source at the
Kennedy administration. Had a bunch of strange things happened then,
and it seemed like every now and then, I'll run
into somebody who seemed suspicious to me. And of course,
when I was editing the book, my source the son
of Cyrus Eugene Acres. I mean, he literally was threatened
(32:26):
by the CIA to kill him and his family. And
this actually involved the White House. White House did an investigation,
a senator on the United States Intelligence Committee did an investigation,
and so did the FBI regarding my book regarding my
findings regarding the moonlanding being fake. Of course, they didn't
(32:47):
publish any of this, but that's what happened. And this
is very serious because the second to the last chapter
is called NASA's Greatest Fear. And when I had a
millionaire backing me, I mean, the film took seven years
because of all the research we did, and I had
amazing information that I was asked not to put in
(33:10):
the film to release at a later date, and that
information is in the book, one of which is my
four hour interview with Betty Grissom, who is the widow
of Gus Grissom, who was going to be the first
man to walk on the Moon until he became a
whistleblower at NASSA. In fact, days before he was killed,
(33:30):
he brought in reporters all the way up the elevator
to the top of the rocket without permission, and to
fixed the lemon the size of a grapefruit, to the
top of the rocket and had the newspapers take a
picture of it. The man who's going to be the
first man to walk in the moon says, the equipment
is a piece of junk. It's a lemon. A few
days later, his widow, who I interviewed for four hours, said,
(33:53):
on January twenty sixth, nineteen sixty seven, he came home
from work and said, on for some string reason, the
CIA is all over the launchpad today, inspecting the equipment.
I wonder why they're here. I've never seen him here before.
The very next day, the guy's dead. From quote Faulty equipment.
So she is saying, and her son is saying, who's
(34:15):
a seven to forty seventh pilot, that they have one
hundred percent forensic evidence that he was murdered by the CIA.
So not only is our government taking a third of
our income to deceive us about the moon landing, then
they're using that money to hire CIA agents to kill
our brethren who are trying to expose their crimes. And
(34:37):
it's my understanding, Rob, that the first document of the
United States wasn't the Constitution, it was the Declaration of Independence,
where it was proclaimed throughout the world that when any
government becomes destructive of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,
it is the right of the people to alter or aboliship. Well,
what's the first one life. They're murdering their own people,
(35:00):
not my conspiracy theory, that's the testimony of the dead
man's wife. So this is the state of the world.
And it's amazing people who are anti corruption, anti deep
states still defend the moon landing. It just boggles the mind.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Bart I still have a hard time trying to understand
why the CIA is involved, because according to what I understand,
they are not supposed to be operating within the United States.
They're supposed to be operating outside of the United States.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, they killed Kennedy in Dallas, so there's some proof
right there. And of course they violate the law all
the time. They're not supposed to assassinate leaders. And that
they boast in the Wall Street Journal. We killed this
democratically elected president of this country. We killed the democratically
elected president of this They boast about it. They boast
about breaking the law. Congress passed the law in nineteen
(35:55):
ninety eight to audit the Pentagon. Twenty years go by
without an audit. They just ignore the law and no
one calls them on it. William Bennie or from the nssay,
the CIA's offshoot for thirty years, he said on National
TV a few years ago. The CIA monitors, the private
cell phoned conversations of Supreme Court justices in order to
(36:19):
get dirt on them, to blackmail them to vote the
way the intelligence agencies tell them to vote. That's an
established fact. No one contradicted it. Not a single investigation
by the FBI or Justice Department that Supreme Court justices
are being blackmailed. How can that be? But that's the
way that it is.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
So, what do you think is going to happen now
that the missions are being planned to go back to
the Moon.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, they can't go, and they're going to keep postponing
it and tell an asteroids strike or economic collapse or
another illness circling the globe, and which point no one
will care who shot JFK or if the moon landings
are real or not.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
That's scary, Bart.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, it's the world that we live in. You know.
Jesus said that things will get so bad in the
last days that unless God intervenes, no one will survive.
I take that to mean that the evil people are
gonna win. I mean they killed Kennedy in broad daylight.
They knocked up two hundred eye witnesses. They got away
with the Golf of Tonkin, they got away with the
(37:22):
moon landing, they got away with nine to eleven, They
got away with this little thing. For the last three years,
they're just more and more entrenched, and more and more powerful,
and more and more experts at what they want to
achieve through evil means. The problem for them is what
good is it to gain the world and forfeiture soul
so that they'll have the world as it's crumbling away,
(37:44):
but they won't make it to the other side, and
I feel sorry for them.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Part. Do you think that the movie Capricorn one was
was produced to give the Americans the idea that the
moon lending could have been faked?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Absolutely? People in Hollywood like me. We saw the lighting
is electrical lighting. The average person can't see that. We said, look,
this is done in a TV studio, this is not sunlight.
So there was a book called We Never Went to
the Moon by Bill Casey, my original source at NASO,
and they basically parodied fake Mars landing because they didn't
(38:25):
want to say fake moon landing that would be too offensive.
So and it had all the top people in the seventies,
I mean the top build people that had Elliott goul
Brenda vacar, Hal Hobrooke, Sam Waterson, James Brolin, Karen Black.
It had Telly sabalasaid, it's just a star after star,
a great movie. Simpsons.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah no, I was saying that the the movie also
had oj Simpson. And of course if the space fit,
if the space suit doesn't, if the space suit doesn't fed,
you can't convict.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah. Yeah, well you know, I'm not sure what that means.
It seems like the guy was a different person back then.
You know, there's a saying in conversion that someone is
born again, and apparently people can be unborn, because when
I look at O. J. Simpson's face and demeanor and prior,
(39:22):
you know, nineteen seventy eight or prior, he has complete
innocence about him. Yes, and yet something happened. He was
transformed the opposite direction apparently, and didn't work out too
good for him.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
No, he should have been he should have stayed making
the naked gun movies. They were theater. Listen quickly, we've
got to take a break in about three minutes. What
was your opinion on the congressional hearings into UAPs and UFOs.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, I think that's that's ridiculous. I think they're planning
on doing an alien deception. Von Braun, the guy in
charge to faking the Moon mission, his closest friend. Before
he died, She said he told her multiple times that
the federal government is going to fake it an the innovasion.
In fifty four years, only one source has come out
(40:17):
saying the moonlandings are fake. As he was dying and
his son was threatened with death for being associated with him.
Why are all these military people coming forward and quote
leaking information unless it's contrived because of it really a secret,
we wouldn't know anything about it. And so except maybe
(40:37):
a deathbed confession, and only one in fifty years. So
they want us to believe in aliens, which is I
believe proof that it's not true. If you go to
sibrel dot com, I've written an extensive article about are
there aliens? Are they real or not? And you'd be
surprised of the findings.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Explanation. Bart Sebrella's are a special guest to this hour.
His website is sibrel dot com. Sibrel dot com. Do
you believe that there are ets out there that they're
coming here?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, they've pointed radio telescopes for fifty years in every
direction of the universe and they haven't found one radio signal.
You see, normally, the truth is the exact opposite of
what the corrupt government wants us to believe. They want
us to believe aliens are everywhere. What if we're in
the latest scientist says we're in. If there were intelligent
(41:33):
life elsewhere, then we would pick up radio signals and
the only radio signals in the whole universe are coming
from Earth. At the same time, UFOs are real, So
what does that mean? The top two UFO researchers, one
Frenchman one American, after forty years of research, came to
the same conclusion. UFOs are real, but they're not from
(41:54):
outer space, they're from Earth. And thirdly, they're demonic.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Demonic, that's right, let's talk.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Meaning that aliens are potentially fallen angels.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Well, let's talk about this when we come back from
this final break, Bart, because I had a guest on
a couple of nights ago who said the exact same thing.
Another guest I had on oh maybe two three four
weeks ago said that with the advent of AI that
the government was in fact going to simulate an alien attack. Wow,
(42:31):
all this is starting to come together. Bart, Sibrel's our guest,
sibr e l is the website and we'll be back
on the other side of this break as we finalize
this edition of The X Zone with Here's truly Rob
McConnell from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
and you're listening to the X Zone on your hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dot cal.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Saw a couple of bottles of doctor Lawn from the
before a sound and call.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Sam Forever Night of a Mount.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Hey lady, you lady cursing in your life.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You're a discontented mother and a rich invented wife. I
have no doubt you dream about the things you never do.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
But I wish someone had talked to me like I
want to talk to you who have been to Georgia
and California anywhere.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I could run.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Excellent radio. Bart Cebrells my special guest sibr l dot
com and he's the author of Moonman, The True Story
of a Filmmaker on the CIA hit List, And you're
listening to us on the let me see here, my gosh,
I went blank there for a second home talk Radio
(44:25):
Classic twelve twenty and you can listen to us streaming
around the world. Visit our great website. Find out what
other shows are available on the station. Great Morning Show
with Stephen danny Z. Then you've got a drive home
show with Pete dickteror there's some sports shows. My good
(44:46):
buddy Chuck Leflur is the news director and all this
and more at www dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Before we went to the break, we were talking about angels,
fallen angels, and it seems that a lot of the
religious philosophies are pointing at these days as the final days.
(45:09):
How does this correlate with what you believe and what
you see?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Bert Well? Originally, like I mentioned before, I turned down
the project of making the film about the moon landings
being faked because it seemed like they could have been
faked and if I looked into it, it might be dangerous.
So I turned it down, and over the next several
years I read the Bible five times in cover to cover.
(45:33):
I wasn't a Christian, but it did develop in me
and understanding that there is good versus evil, there is
truth versus lies, and it makes sense that there's a
judgment for how we live this life. And I realized
that if they faked the moon landing, that is actually
more profound historically than if they had actually gone. Do
(45:55):
you realize that the faking of the moon landing by
the alleged greatest nation on Earth, the most honorable, the
savior of the world, the spreader of truth and democracy,
freedom of speech. Blah blah blah. They fake the moon landing,
that's the nation that did it. That is so much
more profound than if they had actually gone. And when
I realized that was true, I said, this is worth
(46:17):
dying for. It's an important truth for mankind to know.
And I have a lot of Jewish friends, and even
though I'm a Christian or try to be, most of
my Jewish friends are more Christian than my Christian friends are.
A lot of the time. They're very righteous people, very
down to earth, and their rabbis, their prophets say that
(46:43):
the Messiah is coming soon, and of course our book
says the Messiah is coming soon. They think it's the
first time, we think it's the second time. But it's
still at the same time, which is to me highly significant.
I think we are living in the last days. If
you go to sibrel dot com scrolled down about halfway,
you'll see this very detailed article I wrote about aliens,
(47:07):
and it has a link in there for von Braun's
secretary saying he warned her multiple times that there's going
to be a fake alien invasion. And it appears to
me that these are actually fallen angels There are some
controversial parts in Genesis six where it says that the
(47:29):
sons of God Elohim and are married with the daughters
of men and it produced giants. The offspring were giants. Now,
in Jesus's day, that's what they believed, but around eighteen
fifty they changed that theology to means something else. I
think it means what it says. The oldest book in
the Bible is actually job the term angels, which was
(47:52):
when it says the angels presented them before God. It's
the same word us there in Genesis, so that's what
it means. And so people say, well, Jesus said, we
won't get married in heaven, will be like the angels.
But then, of course getting married and having sex or
two different things, because you can have sex without being married.
You can be married and not have sex. So they're
(48:14):
kind of jumping to a conclusion there because it sounds
a little bit odd. But if you look at Genesis
three point fifteen, it says that there will be war
between two bloodlines, the blood line of Adam and the
bloodline of fallen angels Lucifer, and I don't think it's
a coincidence that all but one of the United States
(48:36):
presidents come from the same bloodline. I think they're proticting
that bloodline. I think the reason why alien abductions often
harvest people's sperm and eggs is because the fallen angel
offspring are sterile. It says in Leviticus nineteen nineteen, do
not cross breed species. And when you do, against God's command,
(49:00):
when you take a horse and a donkey to get
a mule, the mule is sterile. And I think they
have to re harvest human eggs and sperm in order
to repopulate themselves. And that's why God said be fruitful
and multiply, and the people who around the world say,
(49:20):
depopulate the earth by ninety four percent. You see. So
I think this is what's going on, as odd as
it may seem, as bizarre as it may seem, that's
likely what's going on. And of course Satan, he's a liar,
and all those angels are liars. How can you prove
or disprove if an alien pops down in a spacecraft
(49:43):
or what appears to be a spacecraft and says they're
from you know, hundreds of light years away, how can
you prove or disprove it if they've been around for
thousands of years and they have thousands of years of technology,
maybe it can fly and the air and under the water,
and you know, who knows what. But they're not going
to tell the truth. They're liars. The fact, people in
the military who have said they've met aliens say they're liars.
(50:05):
They're pathological liars. And so I think maybe this is
one of the ways they're going to usher in a
one world government. Again, just go to sibrel dot com,
scroll down about halfway and you can see this articles
that I spent hundreds of hours of writing and researching,
and has multiple clips in it as well that seemed
(50:26):
to indicate that we're it. In fact, there's a TV
show called Ancient Aliens, right, and I thought it. I
thought it was a one time show. Apparently it was
a series for many years, and they basically had to
admit because of this DNA study about twenty years ago
called the Eve Project, where they took DNA from all
nationalities and traced it backwards in time and said all
(50:50):
humans scientifically came from one woman, just like the Bible says.
So people who want to deny God say, well, how
can we deal with that, because that's exactly how can
how can a person just appear and have no lineage
before them, just like the Bible. So they said, Okay,
we can't say that's not true because it's right here
on the DNA. Okay, here's a good one. Why don't
(51:10):
we say we were put here by aliens? Now, in
three and a half years, they never asked a question
that I would ask as a third grader. Well, if
we were made by aliens, then who made the aliens?
And they forget in the Book of Isaiah, chapter fourteen,
I think it says Lucifer wanted to ascend to the
throne of God and be God. So if they're saying
(51:34):
the world is saying, the latest scientific you know, theology
is saying we were made by aliens, And if aliens
are really fallen angels which are led by Lucifer, then
what they're really saying rob is were made by Lucifer
and not God. You see Lucifer taking what do you
call it, credit for making mankind and that's what the
(51:56):
latest intellectuals believe. Can you believe that? Not?
Speaker 4 (52:00):
Really?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Stephen Stephen Greer is either a you know, an agent
or completely deceived because his number one source that aliens
are real are the Apollo Astronauts. The guy says the
moon landings are fake. I mean, we're real when they're
clearly fake. And his number one proof that the that
aliens and UFOs must be real is the Apollo astronauts.
(52:23):
Say so well, edgar Mitchell goes on you know, TV
show after TV show saying UFOs are real and the
moon landing is real. So I guess they're just about
as real as the moon landing.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Something that I can't understand, Bart, And when you alluded
to the advancement of technology of the of the Luciferians,
why do they need to keep on abducting people? If
they're this smart, would they have not decoded the DNA,
put it in a bank somewhere and then recreated it
(52:55):
as needed?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Well maybe, so maybe that's what they're doing, because all
the alien abduction stories I heard are from the eighties
and I haven't heard any since then. So yeah, maybe
they are getting more advanced. I don't know. But if
you go to you know, do a Google search for
World Economic Forum logo. This is a multi billion dollar
organization that admits to picking the leaders of the world
(53:19):
openly says, we choose the leaders of the world, and
they can spend a billion dollars on their logo if
they want to. And they have World on one line
has an O in it, Economic on another line, little
off center has an O in it, and Forum has
an O in it, and a little half circle going
through all three o's forming six sixty six hidden in
(53:40):
plain sight. Apparently these people literally worship Lucifer. And that's
not the only logo that has six to sixty six
in it. Google does, and many other have three six's
in them that It's just bizarre. You would think that
would be the most outrageous thing, But the most outrageous
things is a being true, like the moon landings were
(54:02):
indeed fake, and apparently the world leader some of them
actually worshiped the devil.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
I had a guest on many years ago. His name
is Pastor Harry Walter, and he was saying to us
during the show, he said, did you know rob six'
sixty six is not the mark of The? DEVIL i, said,
well what do you? Mean he, said it's. Www I'm
i'm sure about that.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
One in case who knows what it. Is the interesting
thing About revelation thirteen is it says in the last,
days everyone rich and, poor slave and free would be
forced to buy and sell with sixty sixty six on.
It pick up a barcode of a can of super
box of. Cereal there's a first, line a middle, line
(54:49):
and a last line that are longer without a, number
they're the same. Line and if you see a sixth
somewhere in the, code you can look above it and
to the, left and that's the thickness of the. Sixth every,
barcode believe it or, not starts with a six as
a six in the middle and ends with a. Six
it's not denied it. Does they just say it's a.
(55:09):
Coincidence so forced to do something is different than volunteeringly do.
It like IF i push your shoulders down to, kneel
that's not you willingly, kneeling is. It so if you're,
forced you can't buy, anything even A bible without a.
Barcode so that's not our. Fault SO i don't think
we're going to be judged on. That but this is
a prophecy right. There everyone is being forced to buy
(55:34):
and sell with six sixty six on. It it's remarkable
it's right there in The, bible and it's right there
in every barcode of everything in the.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Store, bart we've got one minute. Left what is the
message that you would like to leave with the Excell nation.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
TONIGHT i don't. KNOW i, MEAN i used to think
the moon missions were real with all of my, heart
but the truth is so. IMPORTANT i Watched men In
black three for like the fifth time last, night and
it says the bitterest truth is better than the sweetest.
Lie if you really have an open, mind go to
sibrel dot. Com s is in sam ib as in
(56:08):
BOY r E l sabrel dot, com get the, book
an audio print or kindle and there's sixteen video links
and you will have the, revelation the, epiphany just LIKE i.
Did they really did fake the moon. Landing it's worse
than we. Thought all that is at sibrel dot.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
Com you know that opens up a cannib. Wormspart if
they faked the moon, landing what else has been?
Speaker 1 (56:34):
FAKED i don't. KNOW i think you're in the next.
ROOM i don't really think you're In.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Canada, well, yeah it's your turn to make the coffee
after the show Part SEBRELL i want to thank you
very much for joining us. Tonight all was a great
pleasure talking to, you AND i look forward to the
next time you join us back here in THE X
or stay, safe my, friend you, Too. Rob goodnight. Part
that's it for tonight's EX O. Nation i'll be back tomorrow.
Night as once again we crossed the time space can
(57:00):
continuum to this place THAT i call the, xone a
place where people dare to believe and dare to be.
Heard it's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is.
Reality And, wow as you heard, tonight a lot of
eyes are open thanks To Bart. Sibrel visit his website
cybrel dot. Com I'm rob. McConnell this is THE X
(57:20):
zone and you've been listening to us On classic twelve
twenty here In Saint catharines online at www Dot classic
twelve twenty DOT. Ca so until tomorrow, night keep your
eyes to the sky and your heart to the. Light
Good night, everyone
Popular Podcasts
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.