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to Tucson, Arizona this hour explanation. And Tucson is regarded
as city steeped in history, with a diverse culture heritage
that spans Native American, Spanish, and American influences. This rich
background contributes to various ghost stories and legends, making it
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a fascinating place for those interested in the supernatural to
visit now. While specific reports of hauntings vary, Tucson boasts
a number of locations where paranormal activity has been acclaimed,
including hotels, theaters, restaurants, and historic sites visitors can locate.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
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Speaker 5 (02:24):
Visitors and locals often share experiences of unexplained noises, shadowy figures,
cold spots, and feelings of being watched. Some of those
haunted locations have become popular attractions for ghost tours as
well as paranormal investigations. However, the concept of how haunted
a place is can be subjective, depending on the personal
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beliefs and experience that those who are doing the investigations
believe in the paranormal. Joining me now is Becky Gittison.
And Becky is the person who is in charge of
Tucson Ghost Company. And Becky, welcome back to the Xeon.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
How are you.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I'm doing well. How are you doing this sevening?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I'm doing pretty darn good. I would imagine that this,
being the end of September, you and the other members
of your teams are getting ready for the Halloween season.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yes, things are really starting to pick up, for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Now, is there anything that happens in Tucson that is
special when it comes to Halloween?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Not really to the city itself. We don't have any major,
you know, city wide things, but a lot of people
do hold different events and do different things, you know,
business wise, just not a whole city wise type thing.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Now, what do you do in your What do you
and your family do for Halloween?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Usually I do take the night off and we do
tricker treating, although my one daughter is getting a little
too old now to do that, so I think this
year I'm going to stay home with her and pass
out candy for the first time in forever.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, you don't want to Passing out candy is my
favorite thing to do it Halloween as well. But one
of our little girls, her name is Fuffy. She you know,
she went out one year with Flora while I was
working and I just happened to do a clip of
her when she was coming home, and I just like
to play for you in the audience, glora pumpkin.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I go punkin that big orange punkin.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
A big orange pumpkin. And when you were there a
lot of children out there, not too much, No, did
you get a lot of candy.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, I got a lot of candy.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Mommy peving all the trava by.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, tell mommy, that's your candy, honey, Okay, tell her. Now.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Can you imagine doing a radio show and that actually
happening live to air.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
But you know, I hate to say this, but I
think the parents actually, you know, do that all the time.
They eat the kid's candy.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
So but it was so funny that my wife actually
got caught out of the mouth of babes. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Now, I know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I was reading about Tucson and how haunted it is,
and you've got a number of haunted locations there. You've
got the let me see the Hotel, Congress, Fox Theater,
Al Charro Cafe, Saint Augustine Cathedral, p Mac County Courthouse,
Old Tucson Studios, Sabino Canyon, and the list goes on
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and on and on. Why is Tucson so haunted?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
You know, I really do think that it just kind
of dates back to the fact that, you know, we
are the Wild West. We do have so many different cultures.
You know, the Indians were here since you know who
knows when, and then we had the Spanish move in,
and you know then you know, Americans came, and it's
just that mix of culture and the fact that things
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were just, like I said, just so wild back in
the day. You know, we're famous for, you know, the
gunfights and stuff like that out here, and I think
that that history just really plays in.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
How many haunted locations have you and your team actually
gone to?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Oh, my goodness, you can't ask me to count that.
Business Wise, we started getting into that probably a couple
of years. In the first couple of years we did
all residential cases, and I swear we've been on probably
over one hundred residential cases, and business wise, oh my gosh,
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I can't even start a lot of those locations you named,
I've been in or I've worked with, like Hotel Congress,
Fox Theater, Old Tucson, all those. There's only a couple
that you mentioned that I haven't been in. So we
keep pretty busy out here now.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
During the investigations that you and your team do, have
you ever come across something that has just scared the dickens.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Out of you?
Speaker 6 (07:15):
I get asked that all the time. What I like
to respond with is it's that jump scared that you get,
you know, like when you go through, you know, one
of those fake Honted houses. It's the fact that you
know it scares you, but then after you catch your breath,
you're like, oh, that was cool, Let's do that again.
And that's what I've experienced. There's been a lot of
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times where I get like that little jump scare, and
then when I realized that it was something paranormal, I'm
asking them to repeat it and do it again. So no,
I don't get scared scared, it's just that you know
shock type thing that you get.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Are more and more people still finding interest in the paranormal?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
I think so. I think it's actually becoming more popular.
I think more people have an interest in it. It
just it's you know, I've been doing this for eleven
years professionally, and I've seen more and more people be
more open minded to it over the past eleven years.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Has there been any significant breakthrough when it comes to
the establishment of hardcore evidence that life does really go
on after we shed the meat suit and that ghosts
are real.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
I like to think there has been, but you know,
if you run into a skeptic, they're going to tell you,
of course not. So I think it just kind of
depends on who you talk to. I personally have witnessed
so much and seen so much, and I have captured
things that I can't explain, and I think, is, you know,
some great evidence. But to other people, they're going to,
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you know, tear it apart and say that it's nothing.
So to me, yes, to other people, maybe.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Know Becky, what would lend somebody to give you a
call and ask you and your team to come into
a paranormal investigation at their home.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
A lot of times it's just they're experiencing things that
they themselves cannot explain, and sometimes they think they're crazy,
and so they just kind of want validation that they're
not crazy, and they call us in. And in those cases,
especially when we do find something, they're so relieved because
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they feel like they're validated and they feel like they
haven't lost their mind. So that's what causes us in
a lot of times, is just the feeling that you
know something's going on and they want to make sure
that they're not losing their mind type deal.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And how long does it take you and your team
to do an investigation to come to a conclusion of
one sort or another.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Total together, I would say it takes about three to
four weeks to complete because we do the intake forum,
we do our research, then we actually investigate, and then
it takes about two weeks to review all the evidence.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
And is that video and EVP evidence?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yes, that is we do both?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And where do you find your strongest evidence.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Comes from the EVPs? For sure?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I'm still baffled on how EVPs work. Has there been
any explanation that you've heard of to explain what exactly
happens with an EVP?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
You know, I've actually been trying to research that because,
as I tell my team, in order for us to
prove the paranormal exist, we have to knock everything out
and we have to be skeptics. And so I look
into it and I try to find explanations. But in
all honesty, I really can't. I can't explain where this
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voice is coming from. When I have, you know, a
blank recorder and nothing on it except for me and
you know, my other investigators talking, and then all of
a sudden there's a voice right in between us. I
can't explain that. I don't know where it comes from.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And of course, this is when you use a digital
or an analogue recorder so it really does. Yes, what
was it like the first time you actually heard a
voice on an EVP that you had taken where you
had not been able to hear it at the time
of the spirit or entity saying it on that part
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of the tape.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
It's so funny because it's something that I will never
ever forget. It was on my very first investigation that
I did as my own team, and I remember so
clearly because of the fact that when we were there,
I felt something on the back of my neck and
I wasn't sure what it was, and I, you know,
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I ended up saying, well, maybe you know, my hair
fell out of my conytail or whatever. But when we
were paying back the EVP, you hear, no, it was me,
and that just it sent chills down my spine when
I heard that, because you know, the spirit was admitting
to touching me when I had no clue what was
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going on. And it still gives me chills to hear
just that one EVP because of the fact that it
was my very first one. It was the first time
a spirit actually came out and admitted to touching me
and doing something, and it just it was amazing and
I'll never get over that, EVP.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I was just going to ask you if you had
ever been touched by an unseen force? And well, you know, like,
doesn't that creep you out?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Like you know, you don't, honesty, it does not. Even
when I get scratched scratch, it does not freak me out.
It was so funny because we had an investigation in Tombstone.
I worked with a company called Undertaker's Expresso Bar.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
All right, let's let's hold it right there, because this
is too good for me to cut into it as
you're talking about it. So we'll take this break in exporation.
If you'd like to find out more about our guest,
Becky Gettison, visit her online at www dot Tucson ghostco
dot com. And we'll be back after this very short
break as the exone continues with here Shirtly Rob McConnell,
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and you can always listen to us at www dot
XBN dot net. Don't go away, Town.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Town, She's She's in.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You were a pumpkin, a punk and a big orange punkin.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
A big orange pumpkin. And when you were there a
lot of children out there, not too much. No, did
you get a lot of candy? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I got a lot of candy.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Mommy keeping all the travel boys.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, tell Mommy, that's your candy, honey. Okay, tell her.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I was working in the.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Lab late one night in my eyes beheld and recite
or my monster from his slab began to rise, and suddenly,
to my spies, he did a monster male.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
It was a graveyard small get caught on in a fly.
They did the months to match. I love Tar in
the car, sat to the master bedroom. When the vampiles feast,
the gooson came from their humble of boats to catch
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a jolt from my electorals. They did the months to match.
It was a grave yard smile gets caught on.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Welcome back, Becky get us an. It's our special guest
Tucson GHOSTCEO dot com. And I'm sorry, Becky. I had
to stop you before you started that story because I
just didn't want to interrupt you as we got the
ball rolling, So please continue.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Oh, not a problem. We were talking about being touched
and being scratched, and we did an investigation at Undertaker's
Espresso Bar. It's in Tombstone, Arizona. I work with them,
great company, very haunted. But the one thing I got
to say for sure is watch what you say as
soon as you enter a building. That's all I've got
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to say. Because I was talking to my other female
investigators and they were like going through breakups and having
you know, issues, and so you know that girl power,
you know, I came together and I said, yeah, boys
can suck, you know. And apparently I made the Spirits
very upset by saying that, because about fifteen twenty minutes
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later into the night, I'm sitting there and I'm like
leaning forward so I'm not rubbing against anything, and I
feel this burning sensation on my back and so I
told my code you know investigators, I said, you know,
I've got a burning on my back and they're like,
do you want us check? And I said sure, and
so I lift up, you know, the bottom of my
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shirt and they're like, oh my god, Beggy, you're scratched.
And I'm like oh, and they're like, aren't you freaking out.
I'm like no, it doesn't even freak me out anymore.
I just I'm like, oh okay. And then a few
minutes later, it was, you know, burning even worse. So
I told them and they looked and they're like, it's
you know it's more red. You know that it's actively
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turning redder, And I'm like, oh, okay and there, and
they're like in shock that I'm not freaking out by this.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, Becky. How do we explain that there's actual
evidence of you being touched?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
But we.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
The ghost has no form, it has no mass, and
yet you were scratched. How does this make sense?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
It doesn't. I honestly, I cannot explain it. You know,
I know their energy is a lot different, and the
way that they're able to do that, it's actually amazing,
which I guess is why I don't take it as
anything bad. I've been scratched a lot of times. I
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never feel threatened by it at all. I'm thinking it's
just their way of somehow getting my attention or you know,
telling me something like hey, you know whatever. But I
don't understand how they can do it. But I find
it amazing and so I don't feel threatened by it
at all.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Is there any chance that you could actually get infected
by their touch their scratched No, because I don't know.
This is new to me where we have to explain
how a scratch works given by a spirit.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Luckily, I've never been scratched deep enough to where it's blood. Oh,
I see, So it's just it's that redness of it
and then you know, after all it fades and you
can't even tell. But you know, they took pictures of it,
and you know, they shared it to the other team members, like,
oh my god, look Becky got scratched and she didn't
even freak out about it. But you know, I haven't
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ever been harmed bad enough to where I would have
to worry about I guess seeking medical help in any
shapeway or form. It's just been like attention getting, is
how I would explain it.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But isn't it possible that in them trying to get
your attention, for example, you could be pushed down a
flight of stairs, or you could have a door slammed
on your hand. Or is it just the like you said,
they keep trying to get your attention.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
You know, for other people, they've may have experienced things
like that, but for me, it's just them getting my attention.
They've done a lot of things to get my attention,
but they've never caused me any like major harm. It's
been you know, the worst that has happened is me
feeling sick or being scratched. That's it.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
With all these different places that you go to that
are haunted, have you ever thought of something might be
coming home with you?
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Oh? It does?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh it does?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
You like how I'm casually like, Yeah it does. Yeah.
I've been followed many times. In fact, that first investigation
that I ever did as my own team, I had
a spirit that followed me around for a good probably
six months. He and my whole family basically saw him
and experienced something with him.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So the spirit actually did a full manifestation.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Uh no, more shadow you know, my family saw like
the shadow figure.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
There's another thing that I'd like to ask you. How
can this entity be a shadow figure when it has
no mass that can block out light.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I guess it's the same way that they can actually
manifest and appear too, is just getting that energy together.
And I guess to me, the shadow form is they
got energy, but not enough to appear in a full four.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Do you think that this could be one of the
reasons why when television producers and camera people go into
do a shoot in a place that is haunted, that
their batteries green very fast.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Oh yeah, oh definitely. And I've had that happen too.
I've gone into places with things fully charged and the
battery just completely die.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
How do you determine which place you're going to do
an investigation and how deep that investigation is going to be.
I know we talked about our residence before, but let's
take a location, one of the haunted hotels in Tucson.
How do you determine how you're going to do that investigation?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, when it comes to bigger locations, I definitely need
more members of my team to go with because that
is something that we have to divide and conquer. So
we each have to take different sections and each run
you know, equipment and cameras and things like that, and
we stay you know, as long as basically we're allowed
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to stay, and we just take it from there. You know,
some places are easier to investigate because they're smaller and
you don't need as many people and you don't have
as much to cover. But when you have bigger locations,
you definitely have to take you know, more time, more people,
and really you know, dig into it because you want
to you know, like hotels, you want to cover as
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many rooms as you can get in as possible because
you you know, the spirits may try to hide from
you and go to different areas, so you want to
make sure you go to all the areas you can
go to to try to explore and capture something.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Now, what type of equipment would you use on an investigation?
Must use that hotel that we were using hypothetically.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Well for the hotel, we would be taking a DVR camera,
trail cams, body cams we would be taking like rampods,
laser grids definitely, are recorders, and any handheld you know,
equipment like your K two's ghostmaters, things like that.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
When people are doing haunted investigations, I hear a lot
that they come across cold spots. And what is a
cold spot and what makes it appear or disappear.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Or just be there?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Cold sports are basically they say it's the spirits you
know around you. You know that they can create that
cold spot, and how they do that, I have no clue.
But it's really funny because everyone only talks about cold spots,
but I've actually experienced the opposite. I've experienced warmth. So
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there'd be times that I'm cold and I will experience
something warm coming near me. So I've experienced both.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
How do you select the members of your team? Do
they each have a specific expertise?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yes and no. When we first bring on team members,
everyone's in training. They stay in training for at least
a year. We teach them how to basically be open
minded skeptics, and during that year that they're in training,
we start to get to know them and see where
they're expertise is so to say. So, like, just recently,
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I'm so happy about this, we finally got a historian,
a really good historian on our team. She started out
and we saw when she would do the research and
you know, do all that stuff, that she was wonderful
with it. And so we approached her and we said, okay,
you're really good with this research. How do you feel
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about becoming our historian? And she loved it. So she
goes to you know, all the archives and you know,
everywhere she can go to dig up information, and you know,
she she's thrilled to be doing that. And that's what
we do. We try to see, you know, what they're
good at and put them in that position on the team.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Is there any one place at a house that you
have been called to to do an investigation that is
more active than another part of the house.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Yes, there was one situation that we went out and
there's like I guess they call them like cabins, and
there was one in particular cabin that was more haunted
than the other areas, and we had more activity in
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that one little area than we did in other areas.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
But what I'm trying to establish is, let's say, from
the homes that the private homes that you've investigated, is
there any one specific spot in all the homes that
seem to be the most concentrated part for paranormal activity
or is it just wherever?
Speaker 6 (26:14):
It's just wherever. We have done homes with addics and
that old fashioned saying of you know what's in the attic. Yeah,
we've investigated addicts before and they have a lot of activity.
I don't know why, but they do. And it's rare
out here to have like basements or addics. But I
remember that attic won very well because of the fact
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that we went up in the attict and we couldn't
even sit up straight and we were sitting up there
for hours investigating.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
So did you find anything?
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yes, we actually had things move on us while we
were up there.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Holy cow, you and I had to take our break
at the bottom of the hour. Becky get us in
as our special guest ex Nation. She is with Tucson
Ghostco dot Com, and we'll both back on the other
side of this break as the xone continues with here
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Speaker 2 (27:42):
He did the months so much.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
I love the tary and the cartage to the master
bedroom when the vampiles feast, the goozon came from their
humble of boots to catch a joint from my electoral.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Welcome back everyone, beck You get us and as our
special guest, we're talking about about ghost hauntings, things that
go bump in the night. In Tucson, Arizona. Becky is
the lady responsible for Tucson Ghost Company. Their website is
Tucson ghostco dot com. Becky, let me ask you something.
Over the years, I've talked to a number of paranormal
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investigators and they all talk about these different locations that
are well known to all paranormal investigators, for example, the Waverley,
and it seems that no matter who goes there, no
matter when they go there, they always get something. Now,
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I would be thinking that after all these years of
investigators going to these locations, whether it's the Waverley or
any other location, that the spirits would be kind of
fed up by now and they'd either leave go somewhere else,
or they would just be quiet when the investigation teams
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get there. What is your logical reasoning for this?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
You know?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
In all reality, I think when a spirit knows that
you have the chance to talk to someone, a lot
of times they're drawn to that. They don't like to
be you know, quiz though, I can tell you that
right now they don't like those target questions. But if
you're going there and you're you know, thinking outside the box.
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Then yeah. I also think that what happened is that
spirits know that investigators go there, Okay, so that also
attracts them to that location. So they may not even
have anything to do with that location, so to say,
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but they know that investigators go there, so they're drawn
to it too.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
But if they've been investigated by so many teams, so
many investigators, and they haven't made satisfactory contact to this point,
why would they keep on going?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Maybe just because of the fact that they are trying
to get across something, and maybe until they do, you know,
they're going to say there. Who knows. I mean, we
don't have all the answers unfortunately, and just like you know,
I was followed around for that, you know, six months,
and for him to just completely be gone after that
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six months, I have no clue why. I mean, I
might have a clue. I think my kids kept blaming
him for stuff and he got sick of it. But
other than that, I don't have a clue.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
To you or any other members of your team actually
send people to the light.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I hate to answer that because we don't know for
sure usually, but I can say that I had one
situations where I do believe I did help the soul
move to the light, and he was someone that was
haunting me after an investigation and came home with me,
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and I think I helped him. I'm hoping I did,
because the energy and my house shifted after I said
a prayer for him, which is what he asked me
to do. And I'm hoping that that's all that it
took and that he moved on in the location he
followed me home from hasn't said anything about him coming back,
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so I'm hoping he moved on, But I can't say
one for sure.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Do the religious beliefs of the investigator have any any
relevance to the investigation and the results of an investigation.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
I do belief so, which is why basically we have
to kind of keep those beliefs in the back of
our mind when we're doing these things. But there's some
religions that believe what I'm doing is working for the
devil and that everything I'm encountering is demons. So it
really depends on your outlook, I think. But I always
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tell my investigators that if they are tied to a
certain religion and if they believe that you know a
certain you know something won't protect them, go ahead, take it,
hold on to it, whatever they need to do to
make sure that they feel secure and that they're okay.
I encourage them to do that, but I also remind
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them that they have to kind to put those beliefs
on a back burner in order to help the client.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Though, Becky, how is how often is it that you
come across a demon?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Never? Okay, I've come across grow be, but never.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Because I've seen these these shows on YouTube and on
the television where these demonic entities are found in the
house and everybody gets chased out, and I kind of
say to myself, that's just TV. That's just entertainment of
one sort or another.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
You know, it's.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
So that's all Hollywood kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Yes, I mean, do they exist. I don't personally know.
I don't want to rule it out, but at the
same time, I can tell you it's not as common
as everyone makes it out to be. I've been doing
this for eleven years. I've been on I can't even
count how many investigations, and I've been in some of
the worst possible places, and like I said, the worst
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has been like a grumpy old man type thing that
I ran.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Into because you do so many investigations and you do
tours and and a lot of the great thing special
events with your company. Do you ever get acquainted with
the spirits of the haunted locations that you go to?
Do they know you as Becky? Do they look forward
to seeing you and interacting with you?
Speaker 6 (35:15):
I think so, I hope.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
So.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I've had my name called many many times on EVPs,
That's like one of the most common things. And when
I don't hear my name, I kind of get disappointed
because I get so used to it. I know that
some of them are very protective of me, like JoJo's,
which used to be La Christina. I've been working with
them for basically all my eleven years, and the spirits
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there do you know me? So they are more active
with me than they are with other people. And one
is very protective of me. So if anyone ever you know,
comes in and starts, like, you know, making fun of
me or teasing me, you will smell cigars around me,
and that is him staying by me because he's protecting me,
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and he always smells like cigars. And I'll have people
be like you smell like cigars, and I'm like, yeah,
that's the cowboy. He's protecting me, right.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
How can you tell whether or not when you go
to I'm going to talk about a house here. How
do you know when a spirit that is interacting with
a family and the family doesn't want the spirit there
because they really don't know who or what the spirit is.
And you and your team come in and this you know,
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through the course of your investigation and the research established
that this spirit is actually a relative of the people
that are being haunted because they themselves want to have
contact with the spirit. Has that ever happened.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
It's rare that something like that happens, And most of
the time, I think it's like the opposite. They're kind
of hoping it's a relative and it's not, and we
have to disappoint them. But you know, sometimes it puts
them at ease. But whenever we find out that, you know,
it's not the relatives, we always like to re ensure
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them that that means their relative has crossed over and they're,
you know, their happy place, and that usually makes them
feel better.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Then when it comes to doing investigations, have you ever
come across a child, yes, how do you find you know,
you know, you're a parent, I'm a parent, grandparent. How
does it make you feel when you are approached throughout
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through the investigation by a child who has past end
us now on the other.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Side, well, you know, it makes you sad, you know,
because it is a child and they don't get to
you know, live out their whole life. But at the
same time, I kind of, you know, get like that
special relationship with them, I guess being a mom, and
that makes them drawn to me more. And we have
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one little girl spirit that is at JoJo's that I've
actually seen, and I at first glance, I thought it
was my daughter because I only like saw her out
of the corner of my eye, and I thought it
was my daughter. And I yelled at my daughter and
she didn't answer me, and then I found out she
was in another room the entire time. But this little
girl spirit is very drawn to me. She's very drawn
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to my girls, and she just loves to, you know,
interact with us when we're there, and it just it
kind of has that special feeling you know that she's there,
And of course I'm sad you know that she is there,
But you know, we try to do what we can
for her when we're there, until for whatever reason, she
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moves on.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Becky, is has there ever been any research done to
to see what the similarities are between investigators? Could there
be something within your DNA that makes you more susceptible
to being a success a successful paranormal investigative than another
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person would be. Is there any research done on the
investigator or is it just pointed to the paranormal activity
that they're investigating.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
A little bit of both. I mean, you're going to
have the haunted locations to where everyone in your group
has some type of interaction, and then you're going to
have the situations to where they cling to a certain someone,
and usually that's certain someone is because they're more sensitive
or you know, things like that. I always tell my
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team that we have to be skeptics and we have
to push aside, you know, the sensitivity if you know,
things like that. But to be quite honest with you,
I think it's something that kind of runs in your
family because my grandma was very sensitive to the paranormal.
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She's you know, would talk about how she would see
ghosts in her dreams, you know, be visited. She would
hear things, see things, so I think it's something that
does kind of pass through the bloodline, because I have
seen things, I have heard things, and I think it's
just something that maybe I inherited from my grandma.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
I've often wondered that, and it kind of makes sense
that if you have the blood or the genes of
someone who has also had the ability to connect with
those on the other side or interact with those on
the other side, then others down the line of the
family would also have that.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Ability, probably because, like I said, you know, my whole
entire life, I would sense things that other people want it,
and my grandma was the same way. So I think
that was something that I got from my grandma. My
grandma was like the only one that ever talked about
it and was the only one that would say anything.
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But then again, in those days, you never really did
say anything.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
That's right, Becky, stand by you and I have to
take our final break, not only for this hour, but
the final break for tonight's show. Becky, get us in
this our special guest www. Dot Tucson ghostco dot com.
I'm Rob McConnell. This is the X Zone, and we're
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www dot XBN dot net.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Those schoolgirls, oh telling.
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Kills and body.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
But in on.
Speaker 10 (42:31):
I know they will still live.
Speaker 9 (42:35):
All But how do you thank someone who has taken
from crayons.
Speaker 10 (42:47):
To pursue it is a easy body child.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
If you want to.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Scot and welcome back, I have to make something right
with you the ex ow Nation tonight, I have been
giving you the wrong web address for Becky. It's Tucson
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Ghost Company dot com. Tucson Company, Tucson Ghost Company dot com,
and Becky, I apologize for that.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
Oh that's okay, No, no.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
No, when I'm wrong, I'm wrong, Becky. I understand you
have some special events coming.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Out, Yes I do. Actually I have my normal stuff
that's happening. My Tucson Ghost Tour, which happens here in Tucson,
of course, and that's the walking tour. We changed the
route so we have a brand new route on that
and it's less walking. So that's going to be good
for people because it gets so hot still here. It's
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still like one hundred degrees. Yeah, I think we're hitting
like one hundred this week. Still, so it's still very hot.
And then I have my Tucson Ghost Experience, which is
on selective Monday nights, which is at JoJo's in Tucson.
And I have two new things that I'm doing, which
is Hotel Tombstone and Undertaker's Espresso Bar gohes hunts in Tombstone, Arizona,
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so I get to travel to Tombstone and Tombstone's wonderful.
But my special event, which I'm really excited about, is
I'm working with the Arizona History Museum again and they're
doing a family event from five to eight where it's
tricker treating and they have like people dressed up as
characters and they have performers and all that cool stuff.
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And then from nine into ten pm we get to
see Who's the Brave of Heart and do a ghost
hunt there. Wow, and it's very haunted because it is
a history museum. They have a ton of historical artifacts
there and it's just it's an amazing place. And they
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have like a mockup of an old mine, but the
stuff in the mind actually came from real minds, and
oh my god, that that mine is so creepy and
there's so much paranormal activity in there. It's it's amazing.
I love it there.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
Where, in your opinion, is the most haunted location in
Tucson and Tucson.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
Yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, I've had so
many great experiences at so many different places. JoJo's really good,
you know, I usually have experiences there. Fox Theater. Oh,
that is an awesome place to work with and you know,
do things with. If I have to pick one, oh
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my gosh.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
All right, give give them your top three.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
My top three, Okay, it would be JoJo's and Box Theater,
and then I would say probably Pioneer. But we're not
allowed to actually investigate the Pioneer.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
How come?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Uh, they don't want to admit it's haunted, but yeah,
everyone in town knows.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
It is, so it's the best kept secret in town.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Yeah. I've been in there before unofficially, and I had
a lot of things happen and I got a lot
of e vps. But they won't actually let paranormal teams
go in there.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Well that sucks.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
If you could give the listening audience tonight a an
idea of what is you know, what it takes to
be a paranormal investigator? What would that be.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
I would like to say, be fearless, but you know
there's times that I get, you know, a little bit
of that jump scare. I would definitely say if you
want to make a difference in this field, you have
to go in as an open minded skeptic. You can't
go in there and believe everything is paranormal. And that's
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just you know, for a good example, like I said,
I work with Undertakers Espresso Bar, and they are very haunted.
I think every single night I've had something happen whenever
I've been there. But they have an ice machine and
it will drop ice and it will make this loud
like knocking sound. It makes you jump. It's so loud,
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and some people jump to the conclusion that it's a ghost,
and it's like, no, it's the ice machine. And you
have to be willing to, you know, figure stuff like
that out. You can't just go around going oh, well,
you know that was paranormal. No, you have to get up,
you have to look. You have to figure it out.
And I think that's the most important thing is you know,
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debunking when you do this for a living.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Are there any courses that you can suggest that listeners
who are interested in becoming a paranormal investigators can take
or is there any homework that they should do?
Speaker 6 (48:28):
You know, I would definitely say, you know, do some
public ghost hunts with someone you know reliable, not just
you know, someone that's thrown stuff together, but with like
a paranormal team. Do some ghost hunts. Read you know,
read all kinds of books and different types of books.
You know, don't just go for you know, one particular author.
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Read a bunch of them, like I had, like ghost
hunting one on one books and stuff like that. As
far as courses, I really don't know of any that
you can really take. I do YouTube videos explaining things.
I know that there's other investigators that do that. I've
actually been thinking about starting to do some classes, and
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that was going to be something that I looked into
maybe starting to do after my busy season because right
now I don't have the time with everything coming up.
But you know, check out YouTube, check out books, you know,
see if anyone does you know, offer courses, but definitely,
you know, do your research. Don't just jump into it
thinking you know everything, because I've been doing this for
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eleven years and I still don't know everything.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
In your experience. Are there more encounters that you have
had of male spirits or more encounters with female spirits.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
I think it's about equal, But to be quite honest
with you, it tends to be the males that follow
me around more than the females.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
Okay, well, that would make sense, I would imagine.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:03):
I mean, I guess, because I don't know. The way
I'm looking at it is that a gentleman would rather
make contact with a young lady than another gentleman, and
especially if they're spirits and they can sense or they
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understand what your experience is, how long you've been doing this,
that they would try to make contact with you.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Yeah, And you know, every time I've been followed home,
I think I've been followed home once or twice by
a child spirit, but most of the time it's been
male spirits that have followed me home or appear to
me or done whatever it is that they want to do.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
You know, it's the fall season, as you well know,
and here in Niagara, we have a lot of special
events that are going on and there is always these
little vendors who have antiques that are for sale. I
guess they're kind of like an outdoor garage sale. What
would happen if somebody bought something at one of these vendors,
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brought it home and discovered that what they had done
was brought home a haunted article or a haunted piece
of furniture.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
What do they do?
Speaker 6 (51:25):
They call someone like me and then I go in
and I can give them advice on what to do
once we figure out what it is, or they can
give me the haunted piece, which I have had that happen.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
So has have you heard of any more haunted dolls
being discovered?
Speaker 6 (51:47):
You know, if you go on eBay, they're all over
the place.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
But no, not those kind, I mean the real ones.
Speaker 6 (51:57):
You know, I personally have a couple that I think
are haunted. But I think I kind of calmed the
spirits because when I first brought them in they were
like really active, and now they haven't really done anything.
Haunted objects do exist, but I think it's very rare
compared to what you know people think. I think people think, oh,
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if I go to the antique store, I'm gonna bring
home a ghost. No, it does happen, but not as
common as people think.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
And I think one of my final questions is going
to be. Are there many haunted schools. No, I'm not
talking about the schools that were built a long time ago.
When I'm talking about modern schools that you've heard that
are haunted.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
Yes, and I think it's more I mean it, there
has been DUTs at some of these schools, you know,
but I think it's more of an energy that resides there,
not necessarily a specific haunt, but more like something residual.
You have that energy all the time of kids, you know,
running back and forth and doing this and that, and
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I think that energy stays. So I don't really think
it's a haunting as in, you know, always like a
particular ghosts, so to say, but more like that energy
that gets left behind and replays like that record player.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
And why do people think that graveyards are haunted? Isn't
that the last place a spirit would like to go
in my opinion?
Speaker 6 (53:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, granted, there are some that are haunted,
but for the most part, you know, a spirit is
going to go somewhere that they felt more at home
or you know, somewhere that they enjoyed. They're not going
to necessarily hang out at their grave because that would
be pretty boring.
Speaker 5 (53:46):
Yeah, not only that, but very sad for anybody who
went there.
Speaker 6 (53:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's very rare. I think the
only time that you're going to really encounter that is
possibly when you move the grave from like one area
to an other. Then you know, they might be a
little upset because you moved their grave type thing. But
otherwise I think they're just going to go somewhere that
they enjoyed. You know, they're going to go to their
house or you know, the local pop yet whatever you know.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
And of course I've heard of homes that were not
haunted until people started renovating and changing things around within
the home.
Speaker 6 (54:23):
Yes, that's because the spirit all of a sudden becomes
restless and they're not happy with the fact that you're
changing their environment.
Speaker 5 (54:33):
Becky, as almost time flies when we're having fun together.
Thank you very much for joining us, and please give
my best to your family and to your team, and
I look forward to the next time you join us here, Becky,
So thank you once again and take care in Tucson,
Arizona and dex oanation. If you'd like to contact Becky,
get us in the correct email. The correct website is
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Tucson Ghost Company dot com and of course, we'll make
sure that is on our website as well. Well, that's
it for tonight everyone. I'd like to thank my senior
producer over here, Craig West, my wife who is my
senior executive producer, and each and every one of you
for listening. And we'll be back tomorrow night at ten
o'clock as once again we cross the time space continuum
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to this place that I call the X zone, a
place that is hm, well, how can we describe the
X zone. It's a place where fact is fiction and
fiction is reality. So until tomorrow night at ten o'clock, remember,
my friends, take care of each other. We are brothers keeper,
and always keep your eyes to the sky and your.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Heart to the light.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Good night, everyone,