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October 14, 2025 56 mins
Dr. Bob Davis in an internationally recognized scientist in his field. He graduated with a Ph.D. in Sensory Neuroscience from The Ohio State University, and served as professor of neuroscience at the State University of New York for over 30 years. Bob has published over 60 articles in scholarly journals, lectured at national and international scientific conferences, and was awarded several major research grants from the National Institute of Health and the National Science Foundation. Since his retirement, he has co-authored articles in the Journal of Consciousness Studies and the Journal of Scientific Exploration. Dr. Davis has written three books entitled: Unseen Forces: The Integration of Science, Reality and You, The UFO Phenomenon: Should I Believe? and Life after Death: An Analysis of the Evidence. Davis has also lectured on these topics at both national and international conferences. Website: www.bobdavisspeakes.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robertdavislectures/


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first guest is doctor Bob Davis. We're going to be

(02:06):
venturing into the fascinating intersection of science and the unknown.
Doctor Bob Davis a respected sensory neuroscientist, researcher, and author
whose work explores not just how the brain process of site,
sound and sensation, but also how it might tap into
deeper levels of reality, from consciousness studies to reports of

(02:29):
near death experiences and UFO encounters. Doctor Davis brings a
rare scientific lens to the extraordinary phenomena. Get ready to
challenge what you think you know about the mind, perception
and the mysteries that lie just beyond the veil. Please
welcome with me doctor Bob Davis to the X Zone
and doctor Bob, welcome back to the expone. As you

(02:50):
and I were discussing before we went on, it's been
a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, it has been, and it's a pleasure to be
with you and your audience. Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
For the invitation, doctor doctor Bob. Can you give us
our listeners a quick overview of what sensory neuroscience isn't
and what drew you to this fascinating field.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, it's essentially it's it's a relationship between the structure
of the brain and function. That's that's essentially the bottom line.
What different parts of the brain subserve, what type of activity,
whether it's motor, sensory, memory, or or among others. Uh

(03:29):
and uh. I was always drawn to science. Uh. You know,
got into the science fiction genre, and a few professors
saw that I had some potential. It took me under
the wing. And you know, I did primarily research in
the neurosensory sciences, looking at electric physiological activity of the

(03:51):
brain and and and and tissue again trying to establish
that kind of relationship. But once I've retired as a professor,
rob I had those three remarkable experiences which change my
whole perspective, which we'll address, I'm sure over the course

(04:12):
of the hour.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Doctor. How do our senses shape the way we perceive reality?
And how reliable is that perception? Neurologically speaking?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
That is, well, it's perfect for a three D reality
which we exist in. We evolved, of course from the
planet and it's so we have strict limited bands of
let's say, for sound, that's the lowest twenty hurts that
we can hear to its high as twenty thousand hurts,

(04:44):
which is the highest pitch that we can hear. Yet
we know, of course that energy exists beyond those limits,
but which simply can't perceive it. That's true for all
our sensory systems. They have their limited bandwidth, and some
peop people have a little bit wider, and you know
with certain senses that you know that serves as an advantage.

(05:11):
There's even theories now abound that autistic children have wider
bandwidth and capable of exerstensory perception or ESP, believe it
or not. And that's in the Telepathy Tapes, which has
down up the number one podcast in America. Not that

(05:33):
I'm plugging it, but it's an astounding finding in a sense.
And my good friend doctor Diane Powell, she's a neuropsychiatrist,
she's a brainchild behind this. She actually lost her medical
license for her belief in ESP, and they denounced her.
She lost her license, and now she's proving that indeed,

(05:57):
children who are autistic have actress sensory perception. She knows
a five year old who five year old who can
calculate the cube route of five digit number. She knows
a six year old who speaks five or six different
languages without any prior exposure to language. It's these kinds

(06:21):
of weird events and experiences where parents believe that the
child is reading their minds and they the children say,
it just pomps in the head. The answer just pops
them ahead. And Diane takes that kind of information as
wild as it sounds. As pops in the head, it

(06:44):
implies that there might very well be an information field
that with the past, present, and even future experiences coexist
and or maintain somehow. At least that's what she proposes
among with other scientists as well. Uh, how how you know?

(07:04):
That's what It reminded me of this scene in the
in the movie The rain Man, as you may recall,
when the something fell on the floor and was marbles
right there, there was hundreds of them, and he did
he knew what automatically what the answer was, and he
was right that you know, it's not it's not the

(07:26):
truth to that. So doesn't does that? Correct? Answers always exist?
And if they do, how how do we so called
non autistic humans with the ninety nine percent it was us,
you know, utilize that skill if if it exists, and

(07:47):
if it's independently verified by other scientists, and that's what
we do, need independent verification before we can say it
with certainty. But right now it's it's a it's a buzzword.
It up with the tapes, you.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Know when we were talking about rain Man. Of course
that was with Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman. A great movie.
But why why did that doctor lose her license?

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
She if she held strict views on extrasensory perception, That's
what That's what her excuse was that so she's she
was pursuing research that they didn't agree with. Uh, and
she she wasn't granted tenure, so she was her job.

(08:37):
So that's what published a perish kind of environment and
worked her disadvantage. But she tried to prove them wrong.
She was motivated to prove that ESP does in fact exists,
and in fact it does exist. We see this in
many other types of experiments done unique to her. Dean

(08:59):
Raid in particular, there has done many experiments proving that
ESP is real, and the American Psychological Association also recognized
that ESP is valid and the experiments done in parapsychology
proved which proved that it is valid, is not. It's

(09:19):
not not, it's not a cause of fraud. It's there's
no manipulation of the data. It is excellent science that
they thus agree that it should be a separate scientific
discipline in parapsychology. That is because there are numerous well

(09:44):
defined scientific research articles that are that are published in
various journals that are very meritorious, and you know, they
have highly scientific proving without doubt that ESP is real
in detail, a boy boy your audience with the details
of the experiment. But but what's interesting too is that

(10:07):
the observer can can alter the alter the subatomic particle
just by observation alone, which Einstein defined a spooky action
at a distance. So the the subjective experience must be
combined with the physical, the Newtonian physics which you work under,

(10:30):
and and it needs to become an integrated approach because
the essence of you, you know, you know what? What
is that? What is that your brain? You know who
I am? Is that your brain? Is that an epiphenomenon
of the brain, or is it is it you telling

(10:51):
you know your brain? You know? The question a statement
or event that takes place, you know what is primary
and in my mind. You know, we have this debate
where I believe that consciousness is primary. Mass, energy, matter

(11:11):
are all derivatives of consciousness, but materialists, which we operate under.
Newtonian physics, is a materialistic type of paradigm we operate under.
It's good for three D environments. It works, but it
doesn't consider it doesn't consider the subjective experience or the

(11:34):
extraordinary human experiences that people have. And that's what I
would documentary The Consciousness Connection on Amazon Prime right now
gets into.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
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(12:07):
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We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
The band.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Cats We are.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Mind Games by John Lennon, great song, great artist, greatly
missed around the world. I guess this hour is doctor
Bob Davis and his website is I Are you ready,
Bob davis speaks dot com. Doctor Davis, you've explored phenomena
that bridge of science and the unexplained. Now where do

(15:10):
you see the line between sensory experience and altered states
of consciousness?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, just altered states of consciousness is going to occur
for a variety of reasons. It could be organic from
of course, from a stroke, neurologically based, but it could
also come about from extraordinary human experiences that people have.
Millions of people who claim to have near death and

(15:40):
not about the experiences or develop esp interact with unidentified
aerial phenomenon and even non human entities or intelligences, so
they claim. We talked about millions of people who scent
the the extreme what we consider spiritual metaphysical aspects of

(16:08):
mysterious events that we can't explain, and we try to
in various texts and scholars have tried to for hundreds
of years debated about the consciousness and the sensory system,

(16:28):
and how the neurology of the brain can give right
to consciousness itself, and the debate between whether or not
the consciousness it's a derivative of the brain or the
brain is a derivative of consciousness. There has always been
a source of debate among among scholars, and we still

(16:49):
yet don't have a consensus opinion of how our sensory
systems can somehow capture the awe, the essence of who
we are, the beauty, the love, the joy that we experience,

(17:11):
because we can't find that in the brain. That's what's
called the hard problem of consciousness. And the question is
why can't we represent the neurolagical neurology of the sensory
systems that we experience. That's why people feel that consciousnesses

(17:31):
is primary because we rule the brain in a sense,
we direct the brain to do what we want to do.
We have self intention, we have awareness of being aware.
We have, however, a range of different types of interpretations

(17:55):
of consciousness and sensory systems based on who you talk to.
He talks to a doctor, you're going to get a
level of alertness or awareness as as a as a
form of consciousness. You talk to a philosopher, you're going
to get a a spiritual metaphysical kind of response of

(18:16):
the old the oligi the ologion I can pronounce it.
You're going to get a religious interpretation. Uh, we don't
have a uniform opinion. Obviously, it's discipline specific to me,
and we have to be careful as as consumers who
who we believe in and what what to believe because

(18:41):
we get such a diversity of opinion. But to me,
I think consciousness represents a form of information exchange, and
we see information exchange at every level of the universe
from a sub atomic scale.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Briefly, the observation alone of a subatomic particle can make
its behavior a wave or a particle just based on
the observation of an individual, and this is what Einstein
said was spooky actor at a distance I mentioned earlier.

(19:23):
But we also see mental intention being affected by the
influence of millions of people drawn to global events like
nine to eleven, for instance, that cause randomber generated to
all of a sudden become non random, and experiments done

(19:48):
during these extraordinary moments like tsunami incidents of two thousand
and three, I believe the election of President Obama. Printed
Engineering Anomalous Research Laboratory was conducting experiments at these times
and measured the effect of the emotions that resulted in

(20:14):
these random number generators that were stationed worldwide one hundred
of them or so. They all of a sudden became
non random statistically significant. I think they it was like
a seven point three sigma which is which is a
remarkable statisticques significant event, meaning the chance of it occurring

(20:40):
was like a trillion to one, implying that there is
some type of mass consciousness that exists in a sense
as in so far as these types of experiments are concerns,
and it's been duplicated too in smaller groups, not only
were worldwide by other investigators as well, proving that consciousness

(21:06):
is also global in nature and can be imparted via
mental intention alone.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well wouldn't that also apply or make one believe that
consciousness is just proof of God and God is proof
of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
It's an interesting question the religious. There is a religious
equation involved, and it's a matter of value interpret God,
Uh and God. A lot of people who who have
a near death experience feel that they interact with a

(21:50):
supreme being. It's a very common symptom. In fact, those
who have a near death experience where they leave their body,
enter a tunnel, go to the white light, as they
all came to say, in this heavenly realm, this non
earthly realm of a beautiful landscape and music, and they

(22:13):
interact with these relatives and sense enjoy young addition, love,
et cetera, and sense is supreme deity. So is there God?
You know? I don't know. I think that answers your question.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
What I was asking, Bob, was that we were talking
about these power of consciousness during the the nine to
eleven and other examples that you gave. And isn't the
same true that when there has been groups of people
praying around the world, that they too have been able

(22:56):
to increase the odds so to speak.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
No question about no question, Yes, I agree completely, and
in fact they show people in again going back to
random generators, the experiments have shown that people that pray
and meditate together influence random number generators, again going from

(23:24):
random to non random, as opposed to people who just
are just hanging out, not not bonding, not resonating with
each other, you know, through meditation and prayer, as you say,
other people, so you can objectively see, Uh, this type

(23:46):
of synchronization, so to speak, between between individuals, it's coming together.
Uh that that that's you know, you sense it even
in them any mass gatherings you tend to sense. I

(24:06):
think this as well, but mass consciousness does play a
significant role, especially when it comes to energy healing as well.
The sender and the receiver need to believe that healing
is possible if healing does occur, and there's been actually

(24:27):
some very interesting experiments recently done showing that in mental
intention by a certain individual can can positively impact the
metastasis of pancreatic cells and a petri dish. The next

(24:49):
next step goes as humans, but there's still long ways
away from applying this kind of and she mental energy
in the form of healing, although there are people who
followed the banks and method and swear by it, meaning
that they it's real. Unfortunately, he passed away to us

(25:14):
I think a week week or so ago with this
but at the age a young age of seventy five.
But he proved that he using mental intention, he was
able to remove tumors that were introduced that he introduced

(25:39):
a dental carcinoma. Tumors were act actually reversed and totally cured,
whereas the non treated rodents who had that same kind
of injection at dental carcinoma died within thirty days at

(25:59):
prediction did to some banks And I knew him, and
he's I said, Tom, how how do you? How do
you do it? And he says, Bob, I wish I knew.
I just put my hands over over them, you know,
for a certain amount of time during the day, Uh,
in this group. But I don't do it in that group.

(26:21):
And but in the group that I do it, you know,
for they're cured.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And he and he has pictures to prove it too.
So and that's the banks and method that many many people,
millions of people follow the banks and methods in terms
of self healing. Uh. And I was in I was
in pain for two years. I even went to one

(26:51):
of Uh. Surgery cured the problems.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
All right, Doctor, we're going to have to stop you
here and we'll talk about your surgery when we come
back on the other side of this break explanation. Our
guest this hour is doctor Bob Davis. He is a neuroscientist,
and we're talking about sensory neuroscience this hour and how
it relates to consciousness and now it relates to past
live experiences, I'm sorry, not past life experiences, near death experiences,

(27:18):
and how it relates to the paranormal more with our
guest on the other side of its break and doctor
Davis's website is Bob Davis Speaks dot com. And we'll
be back on the other side of the short break.
Don't go away.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
If you could read my my love what till my
thoughts could tell just like an old time moving out
of ghost from a wish well and a castle, Doc
or a fortress John with Jane upon my feet.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
You know that ghost is people.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
And I won't never be said for as long as
I'm I'm a ghost.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You can't see.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Welcome back everyone. Doctor Bob Davis is my special guest
to this our. His website is Bob davis speaks dot com.
Tell us about your operation, Doctor.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I had uh uh sacraliarius, so they fused the sacrum
of the idium. But it takes a long time trying
to diagnose the problem. That's that's the problem. You have pain,
pain in the back. It could be due to a
million different things. It's often misdiagnosed, and it's misdiagnosed with

(29:22):
me for two years until they finally figured it out
with with my help. But it's fine now. But we
all we all have you know, pain and and and
seeks varying degrees in varying way to at least and
to the point I had such such pain so long

(29:43):
I sought out. Uh, you know someone who who practices
the banks and method for you know you're desperate. You
can't rely on medication completely. At least you have to
you have to have some medication. But you also see
trying alternative methods. Methods and people are reyk masters for instance,

(30:05):
and or practice of banks and method or practically young Yoga, Kundlini,
et cetera. There's many different types of types of practices
that are designed specifically for healing purposes. The question is,
we don't have sufficient research in this area to note

(30:28):
whether or not there their effectiveness for various ailments. Because
forty percent of the time, forty percent of the time,
if you believe that whatever somebody is doing to you,
giving you a pill or doing reiki or giving you
a massage or whatever it is, you believe it's going

(30:48):
to work, it's going to work.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But that's the placebo with I was just going to
ask you if that was the effect.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, exactly exactly. So so what do we what are
we supposed to do if there is a bond between
what especially if the person is wearing a white coat
and as a physician and is a position of authority,
we take it more seriously, of course, uh than than

(31:20):
not so belie see what it was more effective coming
from an expert. The problem is, as consumers, we don't
know who the expert is. We we we listen to
very very type of various types of speakers talking about
different different paranormal types of events, and we don't know

(31:42):
who or what to believe. And that's what that's what
is so perplexing about our field. And it's also exciting
as well, but it's frustrating and that we have as
have we understand that something significant is occurring, but what
that is is very subtle in some degrees to the

(32:06):
majority of people, but to some people that have extured
human experiences, and it's dramatic back in near death or
out of body experience or even even interacting with non
human entities via ayahuasca or psychoactic drugs, which is very
popular the popular these days.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
But how do how do we explain the people who
are not on drugs, who are not under any sort
of prescribed or non prescribed pharmaceutical when they come back
and they tell us about experiences with ghosts, with with
UFOs UAPs and other aspects of the paranormal. How do

(32:49):
we how do we justify that within the realm of
sensory and neuroscience.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, we can't justify it to the loot at to
the level where the materialist is going to accept it
as valid. We we can't. We can't measure it as
as well as we want.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
We can't quantify it. And that's the problem. Uh, especially
when it comes to esp We can quantify it, but
the effects are very subtle. They exist, and the statistically
is significant, but the effects size is often very small.
But hauntings we have video. We have tons of videos

(33:40):
of ghosts. We have tons of videos psychokinesis of of
objects moving. We have aports, objects appearing from nowhere out
of nowhere. I once went to a at the house
of a psychiatrist. He was having a party. I was

(34:01):
and I was invited by somebody to come, and I
was given an object. It was ceramic in nature, and
it was painted yellow. And he says, this is an aport.
And I said, what's an airport? He says, it just appeared.
And his wife is also a psychologist. She's a psychiatrist,

(34:22):
and the daughter is a college college educated whatever, big shot,
and she agreed. It just appeared out of nowhere in
their house. And these and UFOs behave like this. They
appear and disappear. Beings appear and disappear in people's bedrooms.

(34:43):
I've known too many well balanced people who actually claim,
I give you not that beings you know, went through
their wall and and interacted with them while they remained
paralyzed from from the neck down and the and it
was fast atlee. Uh.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
You know in bed that sounds like a typical alien
abduction scenario.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
It sounds like an alien a doctor scenario, yes, or
in interaction with a non human intelligence. And this is
apparently has been going on historically. It's it's accepted you know,
in every in every uh uh throughout it. It's accepted
throughout history. Uh and in every society. Uh, there's mention

(35:32):
of of the paranormal. Uh. And up we see indications
of it from from cave walls to to folklore to
religious texts. We see references to to unidentified aerial phenomena
and the paranormal as well. And if you want to

(35:53):
read something, you read the paranormal. Read the Bible very
very much.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
So, yeah, it's filled with paranormal events.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
But uh.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
So that's why it's good to talk to rabbis and
priests and get their get their perspective, and you see,
it's more real than science. Science is not designed to
address these issues that that you talk about with guests
on your show, which which is fantastic. I was in

(36:32):
Newtonian physics that we operate under is not designed to
measure this, uh and so so it's left in the
hands of the public and some scientists who are coming
around will becoming more objective about it. The younger scientists
that are entering the field, and the Internet and social

(36:53):
networking is also accelerating to some extent the interest level
of spirituality and that the fact that something significant is
indeed occurring, that that represents a different reality than what
this is. We have this at the three D reality,

(37:14):
but there's something to that lies beyond and we see
evidence of it. These people do who have the in
depth experiences or out of body experiences, among many other
types of extraordinary human experiences that I try to address
in my book The Conscious Connection and documentary.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Well, let me ask let me, let me ask you
this doctor. If here's something that I don't understand, there
is a preponderance of percentage that increases exponentially ever since
I started doing my show to the present time, with
people reporting all sorts of paranormal experiences. If this is fact,

(37:54):
and if this is part of the human psyche, how
come not every one experience is the power normal?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Well, if you if you walk into a room of
buying from your people and you ask them, did anything
unusual occur to you that significantly altered your perspective, perspectives
and world views and perspectives about yourself and the meaning

(38:28):
of life? Please raise your hand, and if they were
all being honest, you would see a ton of hands.
I can't I agree with you. I agree with that?
Would yeah, would raise I.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Agree with you one hundred percent. However, this would be based
on that person's own definition of what that event was.
Another person who has had the exact same experience as
the person who is claiming to have had this life
altering experience may not have thought it to be such

(39:02):
a life altering experience.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
No question about it. No, No, No two people are
the same. No two death experiences are the same exactly,
but there are, however, similar characteristics not exactly the same
because unique to the person. But but but people, people

(39:25):
go through the tunnel to have a life review. But
but the life review is different for different people. You know,
it's it's never the same because everybody experiences a different life.
So you not only experience your actions on others, but
the the the reactions of your actions you know, from others,

(39:50):
do you understand, you know, you get their perspective and
you learn apparently from it, according to people who have
the neto death experience. So so it's true there you know,
there are unique, unique, you know, differences to all to
all of this. And the question is this is why

(40:11):
we need a semantic and thematic analysis of what the
essence is of the experience, what people are actually going through,
what they are sensing, in order to better understand the
nature of the power normal.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Would you say, doctor that a percentage of a person's
near death experiences is based on their religious philosophical.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Beliefs people, there was study studies done show that that
that religion doesn't really play into really not a precursor.
People will still interact with the deity, whether they believe
it or not. In fact, in fact, studies show that

(40:59):
that people that transition from a non believer to a believer,
it's something like thirty percent to seventy percent become much
much more of a believer in a supreme being.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Doctor, I hate to do this to you again, but
I've got to take my final break. Please stand by
x O Nation. My guest is doctor Bob Davis. What
a gentleman. Visit his website Bob Davis Speaks dot com
and we'll both be back on the other side of
this short break as we wrap up this first hour
tonight in the X Zone. Coming up, after Bob Davis

(41:37):
leaves us, we'll have another hour of the x oone
and you're listening to us on the XON Broadcast Network,
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Speaker 2 (41:51):
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Speaker 4 (42:26):
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Speaker 5 (42:29):
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But do me.

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Speaker 1 (42:55):
Tell me.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Welcome back everyone, Doctor Bob Davis is our very special
guest this hour tonight on the X Zone. And if
you'd like to find out more about doctor Davis, please
visit his website, Bob Davis Speaks dot com. Uh, doctor Bob,
tell us about your book.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Well, my book is called The Consciousness Connection stron Every
Human Experiences and the Nature of Reality, which can be
found on Amazon as a paperbacker as an e book,
And that served us as a basis for believe it
in that a documentary that I thought would actually occur,

(43:37):
and it did, and Guy International sponsored the documentary called
The Consciousness Connection Foundations and people can and can view
that on Amazon Video or consciousfilm dot info, consciousfilm dot info.
But the point is we tried to integrate interviews with

(44:00):
leading scholars and get that firsthand testimony from those who've
also had an extraordinary human experience, and we advocated for
or basically a paradigm shift that recognizes consciousness as an
active participant in life. And it stands in contrast to

(44:23):
the conventional view that reduces consciousness the pure biochemical processes
within the brain. You know, are you nothing but biochemical processes? Processes?
Is that all you are? You know? I hate I
hate this to say, yes, I'm just a biochemical process.

(44:47):
If you think about it, it actually sounds funny, you know.
I like, I'd like to think that a more more
than that just a collection of one hundred billion neurons
between my ears. You know, theres three hundred three and
a half pound mass of protein and fat that's just
between you know, the ears. I'd like to think of

(45:10):
more than that. And that's what why why? I consider
myself an idealist and we've interviewed many idealists in the
film The Conscious Connection and implying, implying again that that
consciousness is primary. Consciousness is more than than just that

(45:31):
three and a half pound mass of fact between my ears.
It's consciousness is is not a derivative of the brain.
The brain is a derivative of consciousness. But we need
we need robin interdisciplinary approach within the scientific paradigm that

(45:55):
that formally acknowledges these experiences as being genuine. And when
we're talking about near death, which is accepted in the
medical community, you know, the death experiences are the question
is what what doesn't represent?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
But doctor, why then hasn't there been more critical research
being done into the field of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, Uh, that's a that's a good point that there
there is consciousness studies and and and it is being studied,
but but not by as many people as you as
you'd like to think. Uh, consciousness has often studied, you

(46:42):
know a little bit in different disciplines, and and not
necessarily as as a major of h where where you
take where you have can have a PhD in consciousness studies.
You know that doesn't exist. You know, consciousness is represented

(47:03):
in different disciplines differently, as I kind of alluded to earlier.
So it's it's nebulous. It's very discipline specific. And that's
the annoyance of consciousness. And that's why we'll never I
shouldn't say never, because I think the weird those things happen.

(47:30):
We need to have that one uniform, holistic opinion approach
of understanding what consciousness represents and what consciousness is. And
to me, it is the essence of essence of being.
It is how you feel right now to me, that's

(47:51):
not the brain. You know, I am in control of
my brain. If if you wanted to, right now, Rob
you could, you could turn me off. You know, it's
you telling your brain what to do, not your brain
telling you what to do. You can in a sense,
predict the future. You can. People have to understand that

(48:14):
they could be in better control of their lives if
we if we facilitate this kind of understanding as early
on in life as possible. I truly believe that, and
you could be in better control of what you do,
your action, your future actions. That is, if you understand

(48:37):
that your gut feeling, for instance, represents your unconscious mind,
which actually predicts the future events. We have seen experiments
in esp for instance, demonstrate that the unconscious mind manifested

(48:57):
physiologically through through breathing rates, through galvanic skin response or
a respiratory system responses co EKGs. We see that they
react appropriately. They turn on much more aggressively if they're

(49:21):
going if a STEMIs is going to be presented, versus
when a semis is not going to be presented. In
other words, our unconscious mind informs the conscious mind about
one to ten seconds before it actually happens, so we
know the truth before we were aware of the truth.

(49:44):
What I mean, the other unconscious mind knows the answer
that and that's your gut feeling. That's why sometimes when
you say I have a feelium in my stomach, this
is the right thing to do, or if it doesn't
feel right. I think everybody can relate to that. I'll

(50:05):
go with it, you know, don't announce it. That's your
unconscious mind.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
You know. I'd like to ask you. I'd like to
ask you this final question. Doctor.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
You know you've spoken on topics such a survival of
consciousness after death from a neuroscientific standpoint. What might support
that possibility?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I always thought it was fifty to fifty. Now I
think it's more like a ninety five versus five in
terms of believing lapp after death. I think that studies
done show that mediumship is probably the best evidence of

(50:55):
Lapaff's death. At the Windbridge Institute, the mediums there can
accurately determine qualities of a person's of a deceased person's
life in front of the sitter the person who is

(51:16):
being read. They're accurate to that about eight to eighty
five percent of the time.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
All Right, I'm going to stop you there for a
second because I'm going to ask you this question. Is
it possible that the person who is sitting in front
of a medium is just telepathically or using ESP feeding
the sitter, feeding the reader who is not contacting the
other side, but is simply receiving the data from the

(51:45):
person sitting on the other side of them using ESPY.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, excellent. That's called the super PSI hypothesis, the super
ESP hypothesis. Exactly can it? Can it be ESP? You
cannot distinguish the two. But the question the point is,
even if it is ESP, that's remarkable alone. Definitely, that's

(52:14):
proving ESP so one or the other taking choice, I
don't know it. It's definitely a deceased person who's being
read or if yes, and I was going to mention
it too, I'm glad you said that, or reading the
person's minds and extracting that information from the person.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Right exactly?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Doctor, how well, I've got about two minutes left. What's
what's in your future? What are you going to be
doing in your research? Are you doing any more books?
Are you doing any more videos?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Well? Well, actually, uh doing a pitch pitch sheet for guys.
Uh for our next documentary, The Conscious Connection Near Death
Experiences is the next one. I was now is the
Conscious Connection Foundations is a general overview of the powerpsychology

(53:17):
and the power normal. Now we're focusing on specific UH
events extraordinary human experiences like like the neo death experience.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
All right, doctor, I want to thank you very much
for your time. It's a great pleasure talking to you, sir,
and I look forward to the next time you rejoin
us back here in the X Zone. So until then,
stay well and thank you for being there.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Exonation from the mechanics of the brain to the mysteries
of consciousness, Doctor Bob Davis reminds us that science and
curiosity don't have to be at odds. They can actually
walk hand in hand into the unknown. And if you'd
like to learn more about his research, books or upcoming appearances,
visit his website www dot Bob davisspeaks dot com and

(54:10):
once again that is bobdavisspeaks dot com. Doctor Davis, thank
you very much for sharing your insights with us tonight,
and to our listeners, stay curious, question everything, and keep
your minds open. Well, I come back from this short
commercial break at the top of the hour, we're going
to be changing the topic to ghost hunting, the powanormal

(54:34):
tours and much more. When we go into the Old West,
talking about Tucson, Tucson, Arizona, next here on the X Zone,
with yours truly, Rob McConnell from our broadcast center and
studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada. If you'd like to
send me an email xon at xone Radio TV dot com,

(54:56):
and if once again, to contact doctor Bob or to
visit his w web site w w W dot Bob
Davis Speaks dot com. I'm Rob McConnell, Doug Away.

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