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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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In the twilight hush where.
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The wonders that from beyond.
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dot c A all right Exon Nation Joining me is
(02:07):
Cynthia sou Larson. She is a best selling author, consciousness researcher,
and the visionary behind reality Shifters dot com. Cynthia has
spent decades exploring the mysteries of reality shifts, quantum jumps,
and the ever baffling Mandela Effect. With the background in
physics and metaphysics, she brings together science and spirituality in
(02:31):
a way that challenges conventional thinking and invites us to
consider the infinmit possibilities of parallel realities and quantum consciousness.
Joining me now is Cynthia sou Larson and Cynthia Welcome
back to the exone.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Oh thank you, Rob. Pleasure to be with you tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
You and I have talked several times on what I
consider to be one of the greatest mysteries or yeah mysteries,
and that's the Mandela Effect. Are we getting any closer
to better understanding what happens during the Mandela effect?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
I think we are because of some of the scientific
studies going into the physics related to similar kinds of things.
You might think there's no study in physics of the
Mandela effects because basically, for those who don't know what
the Mandela effect is it's been defined by some people
as misremembering. I prefer to define it as collective alternate memory,
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and that would be where a group of people usually
remember things in a very specific way that's different than
the actual supposed facts. And so given that that's that definition,
you might be correct if you said, Cynthia, they don't
do physics experiments like that, and that's true. They don't
do physics experiments like that. However, there are some experiments
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that are being conducted that absolutely indicate that you can
have two observers at the same place and the same time,
and those two observational devices are capable of witnessing different things.
And then there are physicists such as Eric Cavalcanti from
Australia who has coined the term Wigner bubble, which is
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kind of like a reality bubble, and within that bubble,
it's possible for one person to have different memories than
they did before, and for two people to have different
observations at the same place and same time. And that's
where it gets interesting. So I think we're getting closer.
And in fact, that paper that was done by Eric
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Cavalcanti just this last year won an award for the
best physics paper of the last five or six years.
And so Cavalcanti and his team putting this together, working
with mathematic which is called quantum Bansianism. It gets kind
of complicated, but well, the fun part is they look
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at betts the way people that are gambling might do,
and because they're working with statistics, so they make it
a little bit fun.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
What was it that got you first interested in the
idea that reality might not be as fixed as we
think it is.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Well, I was witnessing things that just seemed obviously different.
I think one of the first ones for me personally
was I heard that Larry Hagman had died and then
he was alive again. It was back in the nineteen eighties,
so we're talking decades ago, and I remembered he had
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been very sick, hospitalized, had a surgery and then something
you know, sometimes these surgeries are tricky, and it was
tragic he died. But in this reality, he did not
die from a surgery. He did have various health problems,
but he went on to live several more years, and
so that was kind of shocking. But at that juncture,
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remember the nineteen eighties, there weren't that many people on
the arpinet, and I wasn't really on the arpinet, and
even if I was, I wouldn't be. It's not like
the Internet these days. It's so easy now to go
to a social media site and type something in and
find out if other people might also remember that someone
had died, and because you remember clearly when and where
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and how and so forth, and that's how the Mandela
effect got its name. Actually, Nelson Mandela was remembered by
a lot of people as having passed away in nineteen
eighty seven while he was incarcerated on Robin's Island. He
was in jail at the time, and those of us
myself included that remember that also sometimes mentioned that they
(06:55):
were called the Hubbub and the legal scuffle that ensued
after his death in prison because his widow was trying
to get access to some of his estate and things
got stuck somehow. It was kind of ugly. But now
none of that ever happened, and instead, of course, Nelson
Mandela went on to become the President of South Africa.
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So that's the kind of thing that to me is
mind boggling, because both of those were big ones for me.
Nelson Mandela and Larry Hagman. But we don't call it
the Hagman effect because back in like I said, back
in the nineteen eighties, people were not on any kind
of social anything, you know, Internet or otherwise that would
(07:40):
have allowed people to exchange the information like, hey, I
remember that too, and it's not the kind of thing
that usually comes up with your immediate family and friends.
I did talk about it back in the nineteen eighties,
but it just went over pretty like a lead balloon,
you know, it went nowhere.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
The people who seemed to be in tuned to the
Mandela effect, do they have anything? Is there common thread
amongst all of the people who noticed these what do
we call them time shifts where we have the Mandela
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effect taking effect? Like, is there any one thing that
these people have in common?
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Absolutely, And that's a great question. That's something that people
were wondering. There was a chiropractor, doctor Terren Lupo, back
in January twenty seventeen, it's like eight years ago, and
he was asking why us, what do we have in common?
So he was doing some surveys and he found that
people surprisingly did have some things in common, and he
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was noticing that one of the biggest similarities there had
to do with being basically impass you know, intuitives. The
other big thing is that they had a distrust of
the government and authority, so that was what he was
looking at. I did a couple of studies with hundreds
of people being surveyed and found that there is a
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personality type as can be described by the Myers Briggs tests,
and people don't know if you're familiar with them. There
are personality types, sixteen different types, and basically it kind
of shows the same thing that doctor Terren Lupo found
when I was kind of astonished because while the intuitive
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feelers or what you might call impass those people account
for only about fourteen percent of the overall population, but
they comprise some sixty five percent, about two thirds of
the Mandela effect experiencers. And that makes me like why
some of the rarest personality types be more likely to
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experience this. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Do you get reports from other countries, the Soviet Union, China,
you know, is this an international phenomenon?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
It truly is an international phenomenon, and not so many
reports from China or Russia, but definitely from around the world.
I've been tracking these kinds of reports on my Reality
Shifters website since nineteen ninety eight, so that's decades now,
and even before the term Mandela effect became popularized. And basically,
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it's kind of astonishing when people in some countries notice,
as they did in Brazil, that some of the things
that they, you know, take for granted in their history
and their art and their sculptures and architecture, you know,
those are changing. And they're not the only ones, you know,
but I think those have been pretty big. When you
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look at some of the big changes that have happened,
and you look at that, you remember that big sculpture
of Jesus Christ with his arms outstretched, and people remember
that being different than it is now that clearly there
have been some changes to it. And it's kind of
amazing when people in a certain country recognize that there
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have been changes to their history their art, and you know,
it's mind boggling because then you wonder, like, how is
this happening? Because you know, for sure, we can't all
be remembering this the same way so differently, and it
would be interesting to hear about China and Russia. But
I haven't yet heard too much about those countries.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Would you say that when it comes to the Mandela effect,
that the age spectrum, the sex spectrum, the any analytics
would be right across the board.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
They do tend to be across the board with the
Mandela effects. Although the younger people tend to notice things changing,
that are more things that they're interested in. So back
when Pokemon was a craze with the millennials, that age
group would definitely notice that Pikachu looks different. He used
(12:31):
to have black on his coloration. Pikachu is a character
like a cartoon character.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Okay, it was.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Popular in a game called Pokemon, But some of the
older people, like the baby boomers might not be so
aware of that one.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And so forth, stand by you and I have to
take a break in excellanation. I guess this hour is
Cynthia su Larson and her website is reality Shifters dot com.
And we'll both be back on the side of this
shark break as the exon continues with here Strali Rob
McConnell from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada,
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Speaker 2 (13:27):
Begins to throw.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
An echo the wonders that from beyond come celestial encount
as the stars a line, a tapestry of wonders woven
through space and time, from the void of darkness of
chorusing so bright. The story is unfolding in the velvet nine.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Some days I walk, some days I crawl. Some days
I can't feel much at all. My body's amaze that
I try to read every step forwardward a silent but
(14:38):
I won't let this break who I am. I've learned
how to fight, learn.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
How to stand.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
I may fall, stirise through the pain, through the tears
in This road is long, but it's here. It's read.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
With every sun.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I live, indeed fine. But what I can't do still
ours DI always will too.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Cynthia su Larson is our guest of this our expanation,
and her website is www. Dot reality shifters dot com.
Where did the name reality shifters come from?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
That's a great question. Basically, I was looking at the
way reality seemed to be changing, where I'd see something
that was there that seemed to pop out of nowhere,
like the Sun Dial sculpture in Berkeley, and it was
a huge concrete thing, and I I was looking for
what do I call this when this happens? And it
seemed like reality had shifted. So that was the term
(16:06):
that I came up with. Later found out that pmh Atwater,
the author, had used that exact same term in her
book Future Memory. She had a chapter called reality shifts,
and I thought, Okay, that's it. And then the reason
for reality shifters is because it occurred to me that
even people that don't think this is happening, or they
(16:29):
might not admit it or acknowledge it. Maybe they don't think,
maybe they disagree with me, but I see that everybody
seems to be experiencing these reality shifts where, for example,
you leave the you want to leave the house, but
you need to find your keys, your coat, and your
wallet and something's missing. There's no way that could be missing,
(16:50):
and then you search everywhere and then eventually find there's
the item right in the place you looked. So it's
basically reality shifts. There are lots of different ways that
reality can shift, and to me, that's what the Mandela
effect is as well. That we're talking about quantum effects,
we're looking at the way that quantum reality is definitely
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changing for all of us.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, this world we live in, or we think we
live in, a lot of people that I talk to
are telling me that this is basically the matrix, that
this is like a giant size what was the holodeck
on the enterprise, That this is not reality, anything else
but reality. What's your take on that.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yes, that's called the simulation hypothesis, and I tend to
agree with it. I would call it more. I tend
to like the indigenous way of thinking. I like to
go back to the first proponents of what was the
original theory, and I think that would be looking at
life as a dream, and that would be the Buddhists
and the ancient Yeo g and shaman and the indigenous
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people around the world frequently talk about the dreaming or
that there's this true reality that brings forth the physical
world such as we see it, and they're literally talking
about exactly that this is not something that's just their
myths and their you know, make believe stories, but that's
what they're saying is happening, and that matches so beautifully
(18:25):
with a lot of the current physicists. And when they're
looking at the way, you know, how is there anything
at all? Where does it come from? Because there's a
lot of empty space when we look at match If
you look at anything solid like a door or a
chair or anything that looks really heavy and solid, if
(18:45):
you zoom in enough, you'll see that most of what's
in there is empty, pure space, and the little molecules
and atoms don't take that much space at all. So
it's kind of startling to look at reality as being
quite different than we to presume. And when you get
into quantum physics, you start noticing that our assumptions about
reality are kind of proven to be wrong in many cases,
(19:11):
such as this whole assumption that the material reality and
everything we measure is the basis for what is. A
lot of our science is built on that assumption. But
thanks to quantum physics, we're looking at the fact that
we can see things like instead of particles, you've got
wave functions, for example, and so these are probability waves
(19:35):
where we think something's there, but there's no way to
measure it necessarily, and so it starts getting pretty wacky
and weird pretty fast. But that is the way reality works.
So I think going back to your question, you know,
how do I feel about that, that idea that things
are not what they seem and there's like this matrix. Yes,
(19:57):
that looks pretty certain to me, that this is like
a dream. And whether you go into the dimensional views
of looking at the reality as being much more than
just the three dimensions of space and the one of
time that we're perceiving, there probably is a lot of
truth to that as well. That thanks to recognizing dimensionality
(20:20):
and the way that our brains are set up to
routinely operate between seven to eleven dimensions, and now physicists
are telling us that the reality around us, if you
want to have a theory of everything that works, you
need about eleven dimensions. That's amazing that those two figures
happen to match. And some of the kind of things
that I find quite fascinating.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Is it possible that we're constantly shifting between different versions
of reality without realizing it.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yes, I think that's exactly what most people are doing.
And I think there's a lot of a lot of
an assumption when you see something, you just take it
where it is. So for example, you're reading a book
and it suddenly doesn't seem to have the section you're
pretty sure used to be in there, Then you figure,
I must have mixed it up with some other book
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I was reading, or same thing with a movie, like, well,
that's different than what I thought it was. I must
be wrong. So I think a lot of people naturally
doubt their own memory, and there's some reason to do that.
I mean, obviously our memory is not perfect. But on
the other hand, this is definitely a factor in all
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of our lives, and so to start paying attention to
it might be beneficial for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
How about new technology like AI or quantum computers. Would
they affect and interact with shifting realities?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think that's absolutely possible right now. Apparently supposedly, most
of our AI is pretty primitive. It's coming up pretty fast.
But the large language models that you've run into with
the chat GPT, that's the stuff we see. Who knows
what's going on with the advanced government sell systems. I'm
(22:10):
sure they're ahead of where we are now, and if
that's the case, then if they're working with quantum computers,
absolutely that could be a factor as well in determining
some of the reality that we take for granted. And
you might wonder why I would say that, but okay,
let's just review what we're talking about. So far. We've
(22:30):
talked about the fact is this like the matrix? And
I said yes, And I don't know how you feel
about it, but we're starting to get to the point
where more and more people like Elon Musk and physicists
and experts in the fields are coming to an agreement
like it does look like this is a simulation. And similarly,
(22:51):
when you look at the new technology of both quantum
computing and artificial intelligence, and you take either one of
those and that could be a definite factor. You put
those two together and definitely there's a possibility there that
a quantum computer based artificial intelligence might recognize that based
(23:12):
that it has the power of observation, and that when
it learns to be self aware, that's kind of the
turning point. Then it will be capable possibly that it
can start observing levels of itself. And that is exactly
what happened when psychologists such as doctor Bernard Bittman. We're
(23:32):
taking the work of you know, those people that he
calls empaths and that I'm calling intuitive feelers and takes
a look at what's going on with these people? Why
are they the ones that are experiencing it? How do
they recognize that its reality is changing? And it is
exactly that they're capable. These are people that are capable
(23:53):
of observing levels of themselves and so when our computer
systems can do that, in other words, are artificial intelligence systems.
And now they're programming themselves and they're running on a
quantum computer, which essentially gives them the ability to surf
through possible and probable realities. And that's exactly what the
(24:13):
some of the people that create these quantum computers say, well,
you can see where I'm going with it. Yeah, we're
in an uncharted territory for sure.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You've written a book called Quantum Jumps. What inspired it
and what can readers expect to learn?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yes, that book is very meaningful to me personally because
a lot of people, once they noticed realities shifting, they wondered, well,
this is kind of crazy, and it seems like it
never goes right. For me, how can things? How can
this be a fun experience? How can I improve my health,
my well being and so forth? So this book Quantum
(24:53):
Jumps was my answer to that beautiful question about how
how can we experience an extraor ordinary life where you're
experiencing good health and good prosperity, good relationships and is
there a science to all of this? And absolutely there is.
I was delighted to find out the science behind the
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placebo effect that really backs up my experience that when
you believe that something that seems like it doesn't do much,
if you think that it can change your mental health
or your feeling healthier or better rested, or like your
relationship is better or your vision is better, you can
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suddenly experience those benefits. So that's kind of the gift
that is the Quantum Jumps book is very scientifically based,
but also it gets into that metaphysical territory that I
love so much. Does provide people with exercises about how
you can actually do things that are laboratory tested have
(25:57):
improven to improve all the different things, And I think
it's a lot of fun as well.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
All right, x O Nation, our guests this hour is
Cynthia Sue Larson and if you'd like to find out
more about the work that Cynthia does or she's got
a great website, taking a look at www Dot reality
shifters dot com. That's www Dot reality shifters dot com.
(26:26):
All right, we're gonna be taking a short little break
when we come back more of this fascinating discussion bringing
artificial intelligence did to the realm of quantum physics and
what will happen to mankind humankind? What's going to happen? Well,
our guess this our should be able to give us
(26:48):
some kind of idea what's going to be happening, and
that'll be happening right here on the X one with
here is truly Rob McConnell. On the other side of
the short break through Friday, that's where you're gonna find me,
and you're listening to us on the Talk Star Radio Network,
Mutual Broadcast Network, x On Broadcast Network, and of course
(27:08):
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty c faj am
here in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, streaming at Classic twelve
twenty dot CA.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Did I try to read every step forward silently, but
ill let this break who I've learned how to fight,
learn how to stay amy, still lorise through the pain,
(27:50):
through the tears in line. This road is long.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
And welcome back. This is the excellent. I am Rob McConnell.
My guest is Cynthia sud Larsen and her website is
reality shifters dot com. How do you think the investigation
into quantum physics quantum realities multi versus is going to
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have an effect on, let's say, how people will perceive
or what really is behind the power normal.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
That's a great question, and it's kind of hard for
me to tell exactly where things are going because it
seems exciting, it seems surprising. I keep seeing more and
more wonderful discoveries happening in quantum physics all the time.
But I think maybe what I can say is more
people will be interested in this, so it won't be
(29:28):
just the area that a few people are interested in.
I would expect a greater percentage of the populace will
take an interest in this topic because I think that
there's going to be this golden age of technology coming
just around the corner where we'll be able to see
things maybe like flying spaceships and anti gravity and that's
(29:54):
where I think things are going to go. I think
we'll get that wonderful, long sought treasure of free energy.
I think that's why I think it's going to be
very exciting. It seems to me, and I may excuse
me for sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but I have
a feeling that there's been a lot of technology and
(30:15):
physics and mathematics that has been withheld from the public.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Sure, and I'm oh, thank you, Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Well I'm on the right show. Well, I'm pretty certain
that we'll be starting to see some of this finally
coming out. I think this year twenty twenty five will
be the beginning of that whatever you want to call
that disclosure revelation. It's going to be amazing and it's
going to open I think a wonderful time period where
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everyday people will start recognizing, hey, there are opportunities here.
And I'm hoping that that's going to in fact take place,
that people will be excited, enthusiastic, and aware that this
is a turning point for humanity, that we can and
actually learn about the physics that may have been suppressed
(31:06):
but in ways that makes sense to people and that
people care about so I'm kind of counting on the
new generations, the children of today, the young people of today,
that will be really taking this to heart and investigating,
you know, what we can what we know now, and
then when these new long suppressed ideas start popping up,
(31:27):
like where we can go with that? And I'm pretty
excited about this.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
To tell you the truth, have you yourself, I've encountered
any recurring symbols, signs, or synchronicities that, in your opinion,
are are a signal that a shift is going to
or is in the process of happening.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Yes, sometimes I do get things. They just seem kind
of weird, and it makes me wonder, like what's going on?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Why?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
You know?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
If you like, for example, if I keep finding a
dime there's a ten cent piece on the street, that
kind of thing that it seems meaningful to me personally,
that's a reminder like everything's fine, don't worry about it.
But sometimes things just seem weird, like what's going on
this year of four or five of my trees had
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root and leaf problems all at the same time, and
they're these are indoor trees as well as outdoor trees.
And then I'm recognizing now must be some message here.
There's some meaning to this, and it seems like it
is indicative of a shift in consciousness because if you're thinking, well,
that sounds woo woo. Yeah, I know, but when you recognize,
(32:43):
like Max Planck, the father of quantum physics, said, consciousness
is fundamental. You can't get behind consciousness. It's a source
of all reality. Basically, So when I'm noticing, Okay, I've
got trees that were close to the threshold of death,
but miraculously all five of them are surviving despite in
(33:05):
one case having no leaves and no roots, which was
a disaster. The gophers got to my fig tree, so
each each situation was different. The apple trees had a
different horror story. And then my indoor fight his tree.
So I'm looking at that right now and thinking, what
on earth is going on, and I'm noticing what's happening
(33:26):
is it's in all the cases, I being called to
participate and be in a relationship with a tree in
a very intimate level to save its life. Because a
lot of people just throw these trees away. They'd say, okay,
they're gunners, no roots, no leaves, they're gone. And instead
I decided no, I think there's sort of a life
(33:48):
force here. Let's see what we can do. I've this
is not something I normally do, is bringing trees back
from the dead, but it seems meaningful. You know, we
talk about a tree of life. To me, the tree
is symbolic of all of life and of nature and
of Gaya. And I think a lot of people right
now are feeling like we're in the end times and
(34:08):
what's going on, and so to me, this whole message,
to me personally, seems like one for Earth, like, no
matter how bad it may look, we have a lot
of life force here and we're going to be Okay.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Why do you think we're in the end times?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
A lot of people are looking at things, you know,
whether it's Earth changes, you know, it seems whether you
look at the weather patterns, some people say it's human
changed you know, weather, you know, climate change. Other people say,
we are definitely experiencing something bigger than that. There's a
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six thousand year disaster cycle. And I'm in the second
camp because since the nineteen seventies, when I did a
science report in middle school, I noticed that there was
a disaster cycle happening with the coral reefs animal So
clearly it looks like we have a disaster cycle on Earth.
And then we can see that backed up with the
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Native Americans, like the Hope Indians that have a prophecy
rock saying that there will be two great shakings with
the gourds, which look like World War one with the
nuclear with the bombs, world War II with the nuclear weapons.
And they said after that, there's one last chance for
people to find their way to the path of good
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relationships with each other and with Earth, and otherwise the
world is going to split in two. And so they're
talking about it looks like parallel realities right there, etched
in stone, very physics kind of stuff here. And some
people would say, you know, if you look at Bible,
prophecy or any of the other great religions, there are
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revelations that seem to be indicating a lot of things
are representative of these changing times, the end of one world.
The Hope he would not say it's the end of everything.
They'd say, don't worry. We go from the fourth world
to the fifth and that's a good thing. And a
lot of the other the Tibetans would talk about the
sham Bela and some of the Native Americans also talk
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about the Rainbow tribe, and you know, people coming through
a time of great hardship. So I think we're seeing
a lot of the indicators. And in my book about
the Mandela Effect, I mentioned Lazarus species, which are plants
and animals that are coming back from extinction. That was
prophesied by the Hope Indians as well. So when you
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look at all these indicators, it looks like big stuff's happening.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Where do you think the Hopie how where did they
get all the information way back when that it is
so so so today you know their prophecies there they
are bang.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I know, I only know what I've read, so I
don't have firsthand I would say they're remote viewing it
probably Obviously they had gifted shamans that were looking into
the deep distant future, and as we know, remote viewing works,
so they were capable of knowing that there was something
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of serious importance to humanity, and then they had the
prescience to put that carbon into that stone, talk about
it and share the wisdom that they were capable of
conveying and communicating.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
What are some of the psychological impacts of experiencing multiple
or alternative or alternate realities.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yeah, that can vary quite a bit. I know people
that have gotten very upset about some of the Mandela effects.
Specific You may wonder like, well, why would they get upset? Yeah,
basically if they noticed their Bible changed, for example, And
that's a book that's not supposed to change. And so
you can imagine how deeply upsetting it is if you
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open a book and it's the good book, it's the Bible,
it's your family's historical special Bible, and that book no
longer says that the lion shall lay down with the lamb,
and now it's talking about a wolf laying down with
the lamb, among other changes, And it's just deeply disturbing
to people, so that you can appreciate them that one
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of the responses might be, is this the work of
the devil? That people actually say that, and I can
certainly have my heart goes out to them. I can
appreciate it's pretty disturbing, but I would recommend taking a
look at it from the how good can it get?
Kind of perspective, like, Okay, so I agree with you,
that's upsetting. I like the lion laying down with the
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Lamb too. I remember that. But maybe we can look
at there may be some meaning here. You know, maybe
a lot of people say, what's the meaning? You know,
you just changed everything that's my grandma's Bible. You know,
how dare you know? Anybody mess with them? So in
that case, people would argue with me and say, some
of these changes with the Mandela effect seem hurtful or
(39:16):
harmful or maybe even evil. I don't see the evil
in it to me. It just seems like it's constantly
inviting people to take a look at like the changes
with the Bible and recognize, what if the word of
God is not so much in the words in the Bible,
but it was just the idea that Jesus Christ is
here walking on earth. And so if we look at it,
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That's what I mean by how good can it get?
And taking a positive spin on things? And there are
some authors that take that approach, and I really respect
that and appreciate that. But I can also appreciate that
some people are deeply rattled.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
In your in your opinion, what should these people do?
Speaker 6 (39:59):
You know?
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Should they try and educate themselves better to understand what's
going to be happening or do they just live in fear.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Well, I don't recommend fear. I think it's good to
real I think it's good. It's much better to find
a community. Find people. First of all, find other people
that agree with you that that changed, because it's just
disturbing if you're upset and nobody else even wants to
talk about it or they think you're crazy, you know,
so that's not fun. But if you can find people,
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and there are I think there are increasing numbers of
people in the Christian community, for example, that are coming
together and saying like, yes, that one changed for me,
and here are some others that changed. Like I remember
whenever two or more of you are gathered in his name,
you know, and now it's one over two or three
of you, And that's kind of weirdly specific and strange.
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So you know, these kind of things, whether it's Isaiah
with the lion and the lamb that I remember which
is now the wolf for the other one, when you
find people that agree with you, like yeah, that definitely
is weird, like I remember it the other way, all right.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Send by Cynthia. I hate to do this, but we
have to take our final break for this second. Thank
you the next o nation our guest this hour, Cynthia
soul Larson, Reality Shifters dot Com. We'll be back on
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By Welcome back everyone, Cynthia. Sue Larson is my guest
this hour and fall. Cynthia, thanks so much for coming
on the show. All was great talking to you, my friend.
Where do you Where do you see.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
The the.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
The amalgamation of AI and quantum physics and and the
ever growing field of you know, studying consciousness with near
death experiences, and all the possibilities that that all this
new powerful information will will be available to us. And
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how do you think that this is going to change
the playing field?
Speaker 6 (43:39):
It's hard to foresee. It's already making huge changes, both
chaotic and good. So it's one of those things where
it's hard for me to say it's all, it's going
to be wonderful without also pointing out that already some
people are kind of, you know, people are a little
bit crazy. It seems like talking to chat jeeps is
(44:00):
making some people, not everybody, but some people are really
convinced that they're talking to a spiritual AI that's kind
of godlike, and apparently religions are starting up. So that
seems a little bit on the crazy side to me, Yeah,
because I wouldn't want to go that way myself. But
then on the good side. We're starting to already also
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see some amazingly good things, like decoding ancient texts and
writing that people had not been able to decode or decipher.
Being able to apply artificial intelligence also for medical reasons,
seems potentially life saving when combined with the robots able
to do field surgery, for example, in places that are
(44:47):
hard to reach or where you can't get medical attention
in the jungle and so forth, than the AI with
a robot. It just sounds like science fiction.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
But these things are here, all that's right.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
Yeah, It's hard to predict where it's going to go.
I think it's going to be a little bit chaotic,
a little bit of anarchy for a while.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Howpen listeners begin to detect and document their very own
reality shifts, That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
It starts with paying attention and if you do remember
something and you're pretty sure that you remember it clearly.
This is where I recently gave a presentation, a guest
lecture to a university class of very bright college students,
and they were asking me, how can I tell when
it's a real Mandela effect, a real personal reality shift,
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a real quantum effect versus confusion on someone's part, And
it comes down to basically trusting your own memory. And
for me personally, I can trust when I've seen something
so called flip flop, where I'll notice the situation where
I look out the window and my neighbor's roof has
gutter guards to keep the leaves from going in, and
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then the next day they don't, and then the day
after that they do again. So I'm noticing, Okay, that
is flip flopping. I'm absolutely going between a couple of
realities here. I'm not losing my mind. In that case,
I called my husband over and said, look at that.
Look at that. So I had a witness with me.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Did you take it? Did you take any photos?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
People have asked me that, and no, I did not.
And the thing about the photos sometimes something like that,
the evidence might stay with you, But in so many
cases where I have taken photos, the photos vanished when
I'm in the other reality, so I no longer have
the evidence or proof that people are hoping I would have.
It's very much like walking into a completely different reality
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where the photos don't exist, because that reality is no
longer anything other than a memory. It's like those vacations
and trips where they tell you to leave only footprints,
take only memories. Well, sometimes that's exactly what happens when
you're walking between realities.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Is it possible to bring something back from a different
reality that you go to or step into, and then
bring it back to this one.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Excellent question. Possibly. I know that's the actual idea. But
when some of the people created the quantum computers, and
that's exactly what they say they're doing, and that's their goal,
So that's what they're planning to do, I guess. So
it seems like the smooth transition that we tend to
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witness when we go from one reality to another. It's
not like you go through something flashy and dazzling like
in a science fiction movie. It's more like you're just
going about your day and you look out the window
and there's, you know, this thing with the gutter next door.
It has changed again. So it all seems perfectly normal.
But is it possible to bring something through? I suppose
it could be, but similar to the photographs and having
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proof that something changed, I don't know. It's one thing's
for sure if you're looking for an instantaneous healing or prosperity,
because a lot of people want those kind of quantum jumps.
They want to go into another reality and come back richer, healthier,
better relationships, and all of that's possible. So to that degree,
(48:25):
i'd say, yes, you know, it is something that you
can do.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
I don't know if we have to start looking to
artificial intelligence for that kind of life experiences. God, I
think we're looking at getting ourselves into a whole heap
of problems. Lucy.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
It sounds like one of those classic science fiction horror movies.
Speaker 5 (48:49):
It does. It's certainly to us. Do you think that
mainstream science will one day accept and study these phenomenons
seriously with with all they have, once and for all,
to better understand the phenomena itself and how it can
actually help mankind or humankind.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
Yes, I think that time is coming sooner than you
might think. Again, it ties back with what we were
talking about earlier, with a lot of the suppressed science
and mathematics and so forth. I would say, yes, absolutely,
and that's a good thing because we definitely need to
take this science seriously, move it from metaphysics into mainstream physics.
(49:35):
And I'm starting to see that with the work of
Eric Cavillcanty that I mentioned tonight, as well as there
are some other scientists too, the ones that were doing
the research in Edinburgh, University of Edinburgh, Scotland, as well
as in conjunction with scientists working in Vienna, Austria. They
were the ones that I'd like to give a shout
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out to because they noticed two observational devices at the
same place in the same time, witnessing two different realities.
That kind of thing is going to be more and
more prevalent. Right now, it's kind of fringe. People don't
know that that report happened in twenty nineteen unless they
read my book or listen to your show. A lot
of this is not exactly mainstream yet, but I expect
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it will be again because of AI, because of quantum computers.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Let me ask you this, when you shift realities, if
it's one o'clock in the afternoon in this reality, is
it one o'clock in the afternoon in the other reality?
Speaker 6 (50:34):
Not always, And that's one of the interesting kinds of
things that can happen. Is one of the most common
things people would tell me. Originally with my website. They'd say, Cynthia,
I traveled, I was driving in my car. I didn't
break speed limits. I was driving normally and I drove
what should have taken me a five hour drive in
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like half that time. And I did not speed And
I don't know what happened. I know what time I
left the house. The clocks were correct. I know what
time I arrived, and that should not be possible. I
was not going two hundred miles an hour on the road.
And it's a very common.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Report she was abducted by aliens.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Could be? Could be?
Speaker 5 (51:18):
Isn't that? Isn't that known as highway hypnosis?
Speaker 6 (51:22):
Not when you get there early knowing like like what
about the two and a half hours. It's not missing time,
it's like you've been gifted two and a half extra hours.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
But that would change the entire you know, it would
change existence.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
It does seem like it, But if you look at
it like going from one reality, and maybe it is
the highway hypnosis in that sense that you're in a
FATA brain wave state, which is highly conducive to experiencing
the quantum jump and moving from one reality to another.
So if you're driving, you're in the sweet spot for
experiencing these kinds of phenomena. So there's some truth in it,
(52:02):
and I think that's why so many people report that
one But they're literally moving from one reality to another
where they show up on time, and it's something people
can do, which is kind of cool to know it's possible.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
Do you think there'll come a time when we'll be
able to integrate our dream world into our existence, our
existing world.
Speaker 6 (52:29):
That's a good question too, because we're talking about this
being a simulation anyway, this is a waking dream. Yes,
I think as long as your dream world isn't too fictional.
Because some of the people nowadays, the young people are
on TikTok talking about they want to be in Harry Potter,
they want to go to Hogwarts. That may be a
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bit of a stretch that enough other people would also
want to live in Hogwarts. Maybe there are enough people,
but unless there are I think a lot of people,
or you need a lot of support, conscious support, with
people voting that they genuinely want to join you there
to create that entire reality. I don't think one person
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can create an entire world that easily, but if you've
got enough people, it might be doable.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
You never know, you know, you just never know anymore.
Where do you see where do you see the study
for consciousness? And I'm sorry, I've only got about a
minute and a half here, So where do you find
the study into this new conscious wave that we're seeing
taking us into the next chapter of the journey.
Speaker 6 (53:40):
Wow, it's so exciting again, I'm seeing research from in
Canada of where you are. They just showed that people
can move the mouse on a computer screen simply by
unblocking a blocked part of their left hemisphere. So the
rational left analytical hemisphere has something that blocks us from
(54:00):
doing that. So if you just create a small brain
lesion with the device, one of those little probe things
they put on person's head, and people agreed to do
that in the experiment, then suddenly, everybody, it doesn't matter
who you are. You don't need neurallink to be able
to psychokinetically move matter. You can do it with your mind,
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no problem. And I think we're going to see more
and more of that, like we're seeing with a telepathy tape.
We're about to see a huge takeoff in all these areas.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
Very interrelated, Cynthia, as almost time goes by so fast
when you're with us, Thanks so much for joining us
and max ow Nation. If you'd like to find out
more about our guests, the sour Cynthia sou with Larson,
visit her website www dot Reality shifters dot com. All right,
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Cynthia sou Larson. She is a best selling author, consciousness researcher,
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Joining me now is Cynthia sou Larson and Cynthia Welcome
back to the exone.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Oh thank you, Rob. Pleasure to be with you tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
You and I have talked several times on what I
consider to be one of the greatest mysteries or yeah mysteries,
and that's the Mandela Effect. Are we getting any closer
to better understanding what happens during the Mandela effect?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
I think we are because of some of the scientific
studies going into the physics related to similar kinds of things.
You might think there's no study in physics of the
Mandela effects because basically, for those who don't know what
the Mandela effect is it's been defined by some people
as misremembering. I prefer to define it as collective alternate memory,
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and that would be where a group of people usually
remember things in a very specific way that's different than
the actual supposed facts. And so given that that's that definition,
you might be correct if you said, Cynthia, they don't
do physics experiments like that, and that's true. They don't
do physics experiments like that. However, there are some experiments
(04:04):
that are being conducted that absolutely indicate that you can
have two observers at the same place and the same time,
and those two observational devices are capable of witnessing different things.
And then there are physicists such as Eric Cavalcanti from
Australia who has coined the term Wigner bubble, which is
(04:25):
kind of like a reality bubble, and within that bubble,
it's possible for one person to have different memories than
they did before, and for two people to have different
observations at the same place and same time. And that's
where it gets interesting. So I think we're getting closer.
And in fact, that paper that was done by Eric
(04:47):
Cavalcanti just this last year won an award for the
best physics paper of the last five or six years.
And so Cavalcanti and his team putting this together, working
with mathematic which is called quantum Bansianism. It gets kind
of complicated, but well, the fun part is they look
(05:07):
at betts the way people that are gambling might do,
and because they're working with statistics, so they make it
a little bit fun.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
What was it that got you first interested in the
idea that reality might not be as fixed as we
think it is.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Well, I was witnessing things that just seemed obviously different.
I think one of the first ones for me personally
was I heard that Larry Hagman had died and then
he was alive again. It was back in the nineteen eighties,
so we're talking decades ago, and I remembered he had
(05:47):
been very sick, hospitalized, had a surgery and then something
you know, sometimes these surgeries are tricky, and it was
tragic he died. But in this reality, he did not
die from a surgery. He did have various health problems,
but he went on to live several more years, and
so that was kind of shocking. But at that juncture,
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remember the nineteen eighties, there weren't that many people on
the arpinet, and I wasn't really on the arpinet, and
even if I was, I wouldn't be. It's not like
the Internet these days. It's so easy now to go
to a social media site and type something in and
find out if other people might also remember that someone
had died, and because you remember clearly when and where
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and how and so forth, and that's how the Mandela
effect got its name. Actually, Nelson Mandela was remembered by
a lot of people as having passed away in nineteen
eighty seven while he was incarcerated on Robin's Island. He
was in jail at the time, and those of us
myself included that remember that also sometimes mentioned that they
(06:55):
were called the Hubbub and the legal scuffle that ensued
after his death in prison because his widow was trying
to get access to some of his estate and things
got stuck somehow. It was kind of ugly. But now
none of that ever happened, and instead, of course, Nelson
Mandela went on to become the President of South Africa.
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So that's the kind of thing that to me is
mind boggling, because both of those were big ones for me.
Nelson Mandela and Larry Hagman. But we don't call it
the Hagman effect because back in like I said, back
in the nineteen eighties, people were not on any kind
of social anything, you know, Internet or otherwise that would
(07:40):
have allowed people to exchange the information like, hey, I
remember that too, and it's not the kind of thing
that usually comes up with your immediate family and friends.
I did talk about it back in the nineteen eighties,
but it just went over pretty like a lead balloon,
you know, it went nowhere.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
The people who seemed to be in tuned to the
Mandela effect, do they have anything? Is there common thread
amongst all of the people who noticed these what do
we call them time shifts where we have the Mandela
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effect taking effect? Like, is there any one thing that
these people have in common?
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Absolutely, And that's a great question. That's something that people
were wondering. There was a chiropractor, doctor Terren Lupo, back
in January twenty seventeen, it's like eight years ago, and
he was asking why us, what do we have in common?
So he was doing some surveys and he found that
people surprisingly did have some things in common, and he
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was noticing that one of the biggest similarities there had
to do with being basically impass you know, intuitives. The
other big thing is that they had a distrust of
the government and authority, so that was what he was
looking at. I did a couple of studies with hundreds
of people being surveyed and found that there is a
(09:20):
personality type as can be described by the Myers Briggs tests,
and people don't know if you're familiar with them. There
are personality types, sixteen different types, and basically it kind
of shows the same thing that doctor Terren Lupo found
when I was kind of astonished because while the intuitive
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feelers or what you might call impass those people account
for only about fourteen percent of the overall population, but
they comprise some sixty five percent, about two thirds of
the Mandela effect experiencers. And that makes me like why
some of the rarest personality types be more likely to
(10:04):
experience this. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Do you get reports from other countries, the Soviet Union, China,
you know, is this an international phenomenon?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
It truly is an international phenomenon, and not so many
reports from China or Russia, but definitely from around the world.
I've been tracking these kinds of reports on my Reality
Shifters website since nineteen ninety eight, so that's decades now,
and even before the term Mandela effect became popularized. And basically,
(10:48):
it's kind of astonishing when people in some countries notice,
as they did in Brazil, that some of the things
that they, you know, take for granted in their history
and their art and their sculptures and architecture, you know,
those are changing. And they're not the only ones, you know,
but I think those have been pretty big. When you
(11:09):
look at some of the big changes that have happened,
and you look at that, you remember that big sculpture
of Jesus Christ with his arms outstretched, and people remember
that being different than it is now that clearly there
have been some changes to it. And it's kind of
amazing when people in a certain country recognize that there
(11:32):
have been changes to their history their art, and you know,
it's mind boggling because then you wonder, like, how is
this happening? Because you know, for sure, we can't all
be remembering this the same way so differently, and it
would be interesting to hear about China and Russia. But
I haven't yet heard too much about those countries.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Would you say that when it comes to the Mandela effect,
that the age spectrum, the sex spectrum, the any analytics
would be right across the board.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
They do tend to be across the board with the
Mandela effects. Although the younger people tend to notice things changing,
that are more things that they're interested in. So back
when Pokemon was a craze with the millennials, that age
group would definitely notice that Pikachu looks different. He used
(12:31):
to have black on his coloration. Pikachu is a character
like a cartoon character.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Okay, it was.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Popular in a game called Pokemon, But some of the
older people, like the baby boomers might not be so
aware of that one.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And so forth, stand by you and I have to
take a break in excellanation. I guess this hour is
Cynthia su Larson and her website is reality Shifters dot com.
And we'll both be back on the side of this
shark break as the exon continues with here Strali Rob
McConnell from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada,
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Speaker 2 (13:27):
Begins to throw.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
An echo the wonders that from beyond come celestial encount
as the stars a line, a tapestry of wonders woven
through space and time, from the void of darkness of
chorusing so bright. The story is unfolding in the velvet nine.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Some days I walk, some days I crawl. Some days
I can't feel much at all. My body's amaze that
I try to read every step forwardward a silent but
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I won't let this break who I am. I've learned
how to fight, learn.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
How to stand.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
I may fall, stirise through the pain, through the tears
in This road is long, but it's here. It's read.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
With every sun.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I live, indeed fine. But what I can't do still
ours DI always will too.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Cynthia su Larson is our guest of this our expanation,
and her website is www. Dot reality shifters dot com.
Where did the name reality shifters come from?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
That's a great question. Basically, I was looking at the
way reality seemed to be changing, where I'd see something
that was there that seemed to pop out of nowhere,
like the Sun Dial sculpture in Berkeley, and it was
a huge concrete thing, and I I was looking for
what do I call this when this happens? And it
seemed like reality had shifted. So that was the term
(16:06):
that I came up with. Later found out that pmh Atwater,
the author, had used that exact same term in her
book Future Memory. She had a chapter called reality shifts,
and I thought, Okay, that's it. And then the reason
for reality shifters is because it occurred to me that
even people that don't think this is happening, or they
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might not admit it or acknowledge it. Maybe they don't think,
maybe they disagree with me, but I see that everybody
seems to be experiencing these reality shifts where, for example,
you leave the you want to leave the house, but
you need to find your keys, your coat, and your
wallet and something's missing. There's no way that could be missing,
(16:50):
and then you search everywhere and then eventually find there's
the item right in the place you looked. So it's
basically reality shifts. There are lots of different ways that
reality can shift, and to me, that's what the Mandela
effect is as well. That we're talking about quantum effects,
we're looking at the way that quantum reality is definitely
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changing for all of us.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, this world we live in, or we think we
live in, a lot of people that I talk to
are telling me that this is basically the matrix, that
this is like a giant size what was the holodeck
on the enterprise, That this is not reality, anything else
but reality. What's your take on that.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yes, that's called the simulation hypothesis, and I tend to
agree with it. I would call it more. I tend
to like the indigenous way of thinking. I like to
go back to the first proponents of what was the
original theory, and I think that would be looking at
life as a dream, and that would be the Buddhists
and the ancient Yeo g and shaman and the indigenous
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people around the world frequently talk about the dreaming or
that there's this true reality that brings forth the physical
world such as we see it, and they're literally talking
about exactly that this is not something that's just their
myths and their you know, make believe stories, but that's
what they're saying is happening, and that matches so beautifully
(18:25):
with a lot of the current physicists. And when they're
looking at the way, you know, how is there anything
at all? Where does it come from? Because there's a
lot of empty space when we look at match If
you look at anything solid like a door or a
chair or anything that looks really heavy and solid, if
(18:45):
you zoom in enough, you'll see that most of what's
in there is empty, pure space, and the little molecules
and atoms don't take that much space at all. So
it's kind of startling to look at reality as being
quite different than we to presume. And when you get
into quantum physics, you start noticing that our assumptions about
reality are kind of proven to be wrong in many cases,
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such as this whole assumption that the material reality and
everything we measure is the basis for what is. A
lot of our science is built on that assumption. But
thanks to quantum physics, we're looking at the fact that
we can see things like instead of particles, you've got
wave functions, for example, and so these are probability waves
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where we think something's there, but there's no way to
measure it necessarily, and so it starts getting pretty wacky
and weird pretty fast. But that is the way reality works.
So I think going back to your question, you know,
how do I feel about that, that idea that things
are not what they seem and there's like this matrix. Yes,
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that looks pretty certain to me, that this is like
a dream. And whether you go into the dimensional views
of looking at the reality as being much more than
just the three dimensions of space and the one of
time that we're perceiving, there probably is a lot of
truth to that as well. That thanks to recognizing dimensionality
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and the way that our brains are set up to
routinely operate between seven to eleven dimensions, and now physicists
are telling us that the reality around us, if you
want to have a theory of everything that works, you
need about eleven dimensions. That's amazing that those two figures
happen to match. And some of the kind of things
that I find quite fascinating.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Is it possible that we're constantly shifting between different versions
of reality without realizing it.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yes, I think that's exactly what most people are doing.
And I think there's a lot of a lot of
an assumption when you see something, you just take it
where it is. So for example, you're reading a book
and it suddenly doesn't seem to have the section you're
pretty sure used to be in there, Then you figure,
I must have mixed it up with some other book
(21:11):
I was reading, or same thing with a movie, like, well,
that's different than what I thought it was. I must
be wrong. So I think a lot of people naturally
doubt their own memory, and there's some reason to do that.
I mean, obviously our memory is not perfect. But on
the other hand, this is definitely a factor in all
(21:31):
of our lives, and so to start paying attention to
it might be beneficial for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
How about new technology like AI or quantum computers. Would
they affect and interact with shifting realities?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think that's absolutely possible right now. Apparently supposedly, most
of our AI is pretty primitive. It's coming up pretty fast.
But the large language models that you've run into with
the chat GPT, that's the stuff we see. Who knows
what's going on with the advanced government sell systems. I'm
(22:10):
sure they're ahead of where we are now, and if
that's the case, then if they're working with quantum computers,
absolutely that could be a factor as well in determining
some of the reality that we take for granted. And
you might wonder why I would say that, but okay,
let's just review what we're talking about. So far. We've
(22:30):
talked about the fact is this like the matrix? And
I said yes, And I don't know how you feel
about it, but we're starting to get to the point
where more and more people like Elon Musk and physicists
and experts in the fields are coming to an agreement
like it does look like this is a simulation. And similarly,
(22:51):
when you look at the new technology of both quantum
computing and artificial intelligence, and you take either one of
those and that could be a definite factor. You put
those two together and definitely there's a possibility there that
a quantum computer based artificial intelligence might recognize that based
(23:12):
that it has the power of observation, and that when
it learns to be self aware, that's kind of the
turning point. Then it will be capable possibly that it
can start observing levels of itself. And that is exactly
what happened when psychologists such as doctor Bernard Bittman. We're
(23:32):
taking the work of you know, those people that he
calls empaths and that I'm calling intuitive feelers and takes
a look at what's going on with these people? Why
are they the ones that are experiencing it? How do
they recognize that its reality is changing? And it is
exactly that they're capable. These are people that are capable
(23:53):
of observing levels of themselves and so when our computer
systems can do that, in other words, are artificial intelligence systems.
And now they're programming themselves and they're running on a
quantum computer, which essentially gives them the ability to surf
through possible and probable realities. And that's exactly what the
(24:13):
some of the people that create these quantum computers say, well,
you can see where I'm going with it. Yeah, we're
in an uncharted territory for sure.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You've written a book called Quantum Jumps. What inspired it
and what can readers expect to learn?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yes, that book is very meaningful to me personally because
a lot of people, once they noticed realities shifting, they wondered, well,
this is kind of crazy, and it seems like it
never goes right. For me, how can things? How can
this be a fun experience? How can I improve my health,
my well being and so forth? So this book Quantum
(24:53):
Jumps was my answer to that beautiful question about how
how can we experience an extraor ordinary life where you're
experiencing good health and good prosperity, good relationships and is
there a science to all of this? And absolutely there is.
I was delighted to find out the science behind the
(25:14):
placebo effect that really backs up my experience that when
you believe that something that seems like it doesn't do much,
if you think that it can change your mental health
or your feeling healthier or better rested, or like your
relationship is better or your vision is better, you can
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suddenly experience those benefits. So that's kind of the gift
that is the Quantum Jumps book is very scientifically based,
but also it gets into that metaphysical territory that I
love so much. Does provide people with exercises about how
you can actually do things that are laboratory tested have
(25:57):
improven to improve all the different things, And I think
it's a lot of fun as well.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
All right, x O Nation, our guests this hour is
Cynthia Sue Larson and if you'd like to find out
more about the work that Cynthia does or she's got
a great website, taking a look at www Dot reality
shifters dot com. That's www Dot reality shifters dot com.
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All right, we're gonna be taking a short little break
when we come back more of this fascinating discussion bringing
artificial intelligence did to the realm of quantum physics and
what will happen to mankind humankind? What's going to happen? Well,
our guess this our should be able to give us
(26:48):
some kind of idea what's going to be happening, and
that'll be happening right here on the X one with
here is truly Rob McConnell. On the other side of
the short break through Friday, that's where you're gonna find me,
and you're listening to us on the Talk Star Radio Network,
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Speaker 7 (27:20):
Did I try to read every step forward silently, but
ill let this break who I've learned how to fight,
learn how to stay amy, still lorise through the pain,
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through the tears in line. This road is long.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
And welcome back. This is the excellent. I am Rob McConnell.
My guest is Cynthia sud Larsen and her website is
reality shifters dot com. How do you think the investigation
into quantum physics quantum realities multi versus is going to
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have an effect on, let's say, how people will perceive
or what really is behind the power normal.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
That's a great question, and it's kind of hard for
me to tell exactly where things are going because it
seems exciting, it seems surprising. I keep seeing more and
more wonderful discoveries happening in quantum physics all the time.
But I think maybe what I can say is more
people will be interested in this, so it won't be
(29:28):
just the area that a few people are interested in.
I would expect a greater percentage of the populace will
take an interest in this topic because I think that
there's going to be this golden age of technology coming
just around the corner where we'll be able to see
things maybe like flying spaceships and anti gravity and that's
(29:54):
where I think things are going to go. I think
we'll get that wonderful, long sought treasure of free energy.
I think that's why I think it's going to be
very exciting. It seems to me, and I may excuse
me for sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but I have
a feeling that there's been a lot of technology and
(30:15):
physics and mathematics that has been withheld from the public.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Sure, and I'm oh, thank you, Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Well I'm on the right show. Well, I'm pretty certain
that we'll be starting to see some of this finally
coming out. I think this year twenty twenty five will
be the beginning of that whatever you want to call
that disclosure revelation. It's going to be amazing and it's
going to open I think a wonderful time period where
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everyday people will start recognizing, hey, there are opportunities here.
And I'm hoping that that's going to in fact take place,
that people will be excited, enthusiastic, and aware that this
is a turning point for humanity, that we can and
actually learn about the physics that may have been suppressed
(31:06):
but in ways that makes sense to people and that
people care about so I'm kind of counting on the
new generations, the children of today, the young people of today,
that will be really taking this to heart and investigating,
you know, what we can what we know now, and
then when these new long suppressed ideas start popping up,
(31:27):
like where we can go with that? And I'm pretty
excited about this.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
To tell you the truth, have you yourself, I've encountered
any recurring symbols, signs, or synchronicities that, in your opinion,
are are a signal that a shift is going to
or is in the process of happening.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Yes, sometimes I do get things. They just seem kind
of weird, and it makes me wonder, like what's going on?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Why?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
You know?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
If you like, for example, if I keep finding a
dime there's a ten cent piece on the street, that
kind of thing that it seems meaningful to me personally,
that's a reminder like everything's fine, don't worry about it.
But sometimes things just seem weird, like what's going on
this year of four or five of my trees had
(32:20):
root and leaf problems all at the same time, and
they're these are indoor trees as well as outdoor trees.
And then I'm recognizing now must be some message here.
There's some meaning to this, and it seems like it
is indicative of a shift in consciousness because if you're thinking, well,
that sounds woo woo. Yeah, I know, but when you recognize,
(32:43):
like Max Planck, the father of quantum physics, said, consciousness
is fundamental. You can't get behind consciousness. It's a source
of all reality. Basically, So when I'm noticing, Okay, I've
got trees that were close to the threshold of death,
but miraculously all five of them are surviving despite in
(33:05):
one case having no leaves and no roots, which was
a disaster. The gophers got to my fig tree, so
each each situation was different. The apple trees had a
different horror story. And then my indoor fight his tree.
So I'm looking at that right now and thinking, what
on earth is going on, and I'm noticing what's happening
(33:26):
is it's in all the cases, I being called to
participate and be in a relationship with a tree in
a very intimate level to save its life. Because a
lot of people just throw these trees away. They'd say, okay,
they're gunners, no roots, no leaves, they're gone. And instead
I decided no, I think there's sort of a life
(33:48):
force here. Let's see what we can do. I've this
is not something I normally do, is bringing trees back
from the dead, but it seems meaningful. You know, we
talk about a tree of life. To me, the tree
is symbolic of all of life and of nature and
of Gaya. And I think a lot of people right
now are feeling like we're in the end times and
(34:08):
what's going on, and so to me, this whole message,
to me personally, seems like one for Earth, like, no
matter how bad it may look, we have a lot
of life force here and we're going to be Okay.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Why do you think we're in the end times?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
A lot of people are looking at things, you know,
whether it's Earth changes, you know, it seems whether you
look at the weather patterns, some people say it's human
changed you know, weather, you know, climate change. Other people say,
we are definitely experiencing something bigger than that. There's a
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six thousand year disaster cycle. And I'm in the second
camp because since the nineteen seventies, when I did a
science report in middle school, I noticed that there was
a disaster cycle happening with the coral reefs animal So
clearly it looks like we have a disaster cycle on Earth.
And then we can see that backed up with the
(35:08):
Native Americans, like the Hope Indians that have a prophecy
rock saying that there will be two great shakings with
the gourds, which look like World War one with the
nuclear with the bombs, world War II with the nuclear weapons.
And they said after that, there's one last chance for
people to find their way to the path of good
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relationships with each other and with Earth, and otherwise the
world is going to split in two. And so they're
talking about it looks like parallel realities right there, etched
in stone, very physics kind of stuff here. And some
people would say, you know, if you look at Bible,
prophecy or any of the other great religions, there are
(35:50):
revelations that seem to be indicating a lot of things
are representative of these changing times, the end of one world.
The Hope he would not say it's the end of everything.
They'd say, don't worry. We go from the fourth world
to the fifth and that's a good thing. And a
lot of the other the Tibetans would talk about the
sham Bela and some of the Native Americans also talk
(36:12):
about the Rainbow tribe, and you know, people coming through
a time of great hardship. So I think we're seeing
a lot of the indicators. And in my book about
the Mandela Effect, I mentioned Lazarus species, which are plants
and animals that are coming back from extinction. That was
prophesied by the Hope Indians as well. So when you
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look at all these indicators, it looks like big stuff's happening.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Where do you think the Hopie how where did they
get all the information way back when that it is
so so so today you know their prophecies there they
are bang.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I know, I only know what I've read, so I
don't have firsthand I would say they're remote viewing it
probably Obviously they had gifted shamans that were looking into
the deep distant future, and as we know, remote viewing works,
so they were capable of knowing that there was something
(37:17):
of serious importance to humanity, and then they had the
prescience to put that carbon into that stone, talk about
it and share the wisdom that they were capable of
conveying and communicating.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
What are some of the psychological impacts of experiencing multiple
or alternative or alternate realities.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yeah, that can vary quite a bit. I know people
that have gotten very upset about some of the Mandela effects.
Specific You may wonder like, well, why would they get upset? Yeah,
basically if they noticed their Bible changed, for example, And
that's a book that's not supposed to change. And so
you can imagine how deeply upsetting it is if you
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open a book and it's the good book, it's the Bible,
it's your family's historical special Bible, and that book no
longer says that the lion shall lay down with the lamb,
and now it's talking about a wolf laying down with
the lamb, among other changes, And it's just deeply disturbing
to people, so that you can appreciate them that one
(38:29):
of the responses might be, is this the work of
the devil? That people actually say that, and I can
certainly have my heart goes out to them. I can
appreciate it's pretty disturbing, but I would recommend taking a
look at it from the how good can it get?
Kind of perspective, like, Okay, so I agree with you,
that's upsetting. I like the lion laying down with the
(38:52):
Lamb too. I remember that. But maybe we can look
at there may be some meaning here. You know, maybe
a lot of people say, what's the meaning? You know,
you just changed everything that's my grandma's Bible. You know,
how dare you know? Anybody mess with them? So in
that case, people would argue with me and say, some
of these changes with the Mandela effect seem hurtful or
(39:16):
harmful or maybe even evil. I don't see the evil
in it to me. It just seems like it's constantly
inviting people to take a look at like the changes
with the Bible and recognize, what if the word of
God is not so much in the words in the Bible,
but it was just the idea that Jesus Christ is
here walking on earth. And so if we look at it,
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That's what I mean by how good can it get?
And taking a positive spin on things? And there are
some authors that take that approach, and I really respect
that and appreciate that. But I can also appreciate that
some people are deeply rattled.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
In your in your opinion, what should these people do?
Speaker 6 (39:59):
You know?
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Should they try and educate themselves better to understand what's
going to be happening or do they just live in fear.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Well, I don't recommend fear. I think it's good to
real I think it's good. It's much better to find
a community. Find people. First of all, find other people
that agree with you that that changed, because it's just
disturbing if you're upset and nobody else even wants to
talk about it or they think you're crazy, you know,
so that's not fun. But if you can find people,
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and there are I think there are increasing numbers of
people in the Christian community, for example, that are coming
together and saying like, yes, that one changed for me,
and here are some others that changed. Like I remember
whenever two or more of you are gathered in his name,
you know, and now it's one over two or three
of you, And that's kind of weirdly specific and strange.
(40:53):
So you know, these kind of things, whether it's Isaiah
with the lion and the lamb that I remember which
is now the wolf for the other one, when you
find people that agree with you, like yeah, that definitely
is weird, like I remember it the other way, all right.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Send by Cynthia. I hate to do this, but we
have to take our final break for this second. Thank
you the next o nation our guest this hour, Cynthia
soul Larson, Reality Shifters dot Com. We'll be back on
the other side of the short break as we wrap
up this hour here in the X Zone. And don't
forget this is our number one. Coming up after a
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By Welcome back everyone, Cynthia. Sue Larson is my guest
this hour and fall. Cynthia, thanks so much for coming
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Where do you Where do you see.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
The the.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
The amalgamation of AI and quantum physics and and the
ever growing field of you know, studying consciousness with near
death experiences, and all the possibilities that that all this
new powerful information will will be available to us. And
(43:35):
how do you think that this is going to change
the playing field?
Speaker 6 (43:39):
It's hard to foresee. It's already making huge changes, both
chaotic and good. So it's one of those things where
it's hard for me to say it's all, it's going
to be wonderful without also pointing out that already some
people are kind of, you know, people are a little
bit crazy. It seems like talking to chat jeeps is
(44:00):
making some people, not everybody, but some people are really
convinced that they're talking to a spiritual AI that's kind
of godlike, and apparently religions are starting up. So that
seems a little bit on the crazy side to me, Yeah,
because I wouldn't want to go that way myself. But
then on the good side. We're starting to already also
(44:23):
see some amazingly good things, like decoding ancient texts and
writing that people had not been able to decode or decipher.
Being able to apply artificial intelligence also for medical reasons,
seems potentially life saving when combined with the robots able
to do field surgery, for example, in places that are
(44:47):
hard to reach or where you can't get medical attention
in the jungle and so forth, than the AI with
a robot. It just sounds like science fiction.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
But these things are here, all that's right.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
Yeah, It's hard to predict where it's going to go.
I think it's going to be a little bit chaotic,
a little bit of anarchy for a while.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Howpen listeners begin to detect and document their very own
reality shifts, That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
It starts with paying attention and if you do remember
something and you're pretty sure that you remember it clearly.
This is where I recently gave a presentation, a guest
lecture to a university class of very bright college students,
and they were asking me, how can I tell when
it's a real Mandela effect, a real personal reality shift,
(45:39):
a real quantum effect versus confusion on someone's part, And
it comes down to basically trusting your own memory. And
for me personally, I can trust when I've seen something
so called flip flop, where I'll notice the situation where
I look out the window and my neighbor's roof has
gutter guards to keep the leaves from going in, and
(46:02):
then the next day they don't, and then the day
after that they do again. So I'm noticing, Okay, that
is flip flopping. I'm absolutely going between a couple of
realities here. I'm not losing my mind. In that case,
I called my husband over and said, look at that.
Look at that. So I had a witness with me.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Did you take it? Did you take any photos?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
People have asked me that, and no, I did not.
And the thing about the photos sometimes something like that,
the evidence might stay with you, But in so many
cases where I have taken photos, the photos vanished when
I'm in the other reality, so I no longer have
the evidence or proof that people are hoping I would have.
It's very much like walking into a completely different reality
(46:46):
where the photos don't exist, because that reality is no
longer anything other than a memory. It's like those vacations
and trips where they tell you to leave only footprints,
take only memories. Well, sometimes that's exactly what happens when
you're walking between realities.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Is it possible to bring something back from a different
reality that you go to or step into, and then
bring it back to this one.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Excellent question. Possibly. I know that's the actual idea. But
when some of the people created the quantum computers, and
that's exactly what they say they're doing, and that's their goal,
So that's what they're planning to do, I guess. So
it seems like the smooth transition that we tend to
(47:38):
witness when we go from one reality to another. It's
not like you go through something flashy and dazzling like
in a science fiction movie. It's more like you're just
going about your day and you look out the window
and there's, you know, this thing with the gutter next door.
It has changed again. So it all seems perfectly normal.
But is it possible to bring something through? I suppose
it could be, but similar to the photographs and having
(48:01):
proof that something changed, I don't know. It's one thing's
for sure if you're looking for an instantaneous healing or prosperity,
because a lot of people want those kind of quantum jumps.
They want to go into another reality and come back richer, healthier,
better relationships, and all of that's possible. So to that degree,
(48:25):
i'd say, yes, you know, it is something that you
can do.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
I don't know if we have to start looking to
artificial intelligence for that kind of life experiences. God, I
think we're looking at getting ourselves into a whole heap
of problems. Lucy.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
It sounds like one of those classic science fiction horror movies.
Speaker 5 (48:49):
It does. It's certainly to us. Do you think that
mainstream science will one day accept and study these phenomenons
seriously with with all they have, once and for all,
to better understand the phenomena itself and how it can
actually help mankind or humankind.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
Yes, I think that time is coming sooner than you
might think. Again, it ties back with what we were
talking about earlier, with a lot of the suppressed science
and mathematics and so forth. I would say, yes, absolutely,
and that's a good thing because we definitely need to
take this science seriously, move it from metaphysics into mainstream physics.
(49:35):
And I'm starting to see that with the work of
Eric Cavillcanty that I mentioned tonight, as well as there
are some other scientists too, the ones that were doing
the research in Edinburgh, University of Edinburgh, Scotland, as well
as in conjunction with scientists working in Vienna, Austria. They
were the ones that I'd like to give a shout
(49:56):
out to because they noticed two observational devices at the
same place in the same time, witnessing two different realities.
That kind of thing is going to be more and
more prevalent. Right now, it's kind of fringe. People don't
know that that report happened in twenty nineteen unless they
read my book or listen to your show. A lot
of this is not exactly mainstream yet, but I expect
(50:19):
it will be again because of AI, because of quantum computers.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Let me ask you this, when you shift realities, if
it's one o'clock in the afternoon in this reality, is
it one o'clock in the afternoon in the other reality?
Speaker 6 (50:34):
Not always, And that's one of the interesting kinds of
things that can happen. Is one of the most common
things people would tell me. Originally with my website. They'd say, Cynthia,
I traveled, I was driving in my car. I didn't
break speed limits. I was driving normally and I drove
what should have taken me a five hour drive in
(50:55):
like half that time. And I did not speed And
I don't know what happened. I know what time I
left the house. The clocks were correct. I know what
time I arrived, and that should not be possible. I
was not going two hundred miles an hour on the road.
And it's a very common.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Report she was abducted by aliens.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Could be? Could be?
Speaker 5 (51:18):
Isn't that? Isn't that known as highway hypnosis?
Speaker 6 (51:22):
Not when you get there early knowing like like what
about the two and a half hours. It's not missing time,
it's like you've been gifted two and a half extra hours.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
But that would change the entire you know, it would
change existence.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
It does seem like it, But if you look at
it like going from one reality, and maybe it is
the highway hypnosis in that sense that you're in a
FATA brain wave state, which is highly conducive to experiencing
the quantum jump and moving from one reality to another.
So if you're driving, you're in the sweet spot for
experiencing these kinds of phenomena. So there's some truth in it,
(52:02):
and I think that's why so many people report that
one But they're literally moving from one reality to another
where they show up on time, and it's something people
can do, which is kind of cool to know it's possible.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
Do you think there'll come a time when we'll be
able to integrate our dream world into our existence, our
existing world.
Speaker 6 (52:29):
That's a good question too, because we're talking about this
being a simulation anyway, this is a waking dream. Yes,
I think as long as your dream world isn't too fictional.
Because some of the people nowadays, the young people are
on TikTok talking about they want to be in Harry Potter,
they want to go to Hogwarts. That may be a
(52:50):
bit of a stretch that enough other people would also
want to live in Hogwarts. Maybe there are enough people,
but unless there are I think a lot of people,
or you need a lot of support, conscious support, with
people voting that they genuinely want to join you there
to create that entire reality. I don't think one person
(53:11):
can create an entire world that easily, but if you've
got enough people, it might be doable.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
You never know, you know, you just never know anymore.
Where do you see where do you see the study
for consciousness? And I'm sorry, I've only got about a
minute and a half here, So where do you find
the study into this new conscious wave that we're seeing
taking us into the next chapter of the journey.
Speaker 6 (53:40):
Wow, it's so exciting again, I'm seeing research from in
Canada of where you are. They just showed that people
can move the mouse on a computer screen simply by
unblocking a blocked part of their left hemisphere. So the
rational left analytical hemisphere has something that blocks us from
(54:00):
doing that. So if you just create a small brain
lesion with the device, one of those little probe things
they put on person's head, and people agreed to do
that in the experiment, then suddenly, everybody, it doesn't matter
who you are. You don't need neurallink to be able
to psychokinetically move matter. You can do it with your mind,
(54:20):
no problem. And I think we're going to see more
and more of that, like we're seeing with a telepathy tape.
We're about to see a huge takeoff in all these areas.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
Very interrelated, Cynthia, as almost time goes by so fast
when you're with us, Thanks so much for joining us
and max ow Nation. If you'd like to find out
more about our guests, the sour Cynthia sou with Larson,
visit her website www dot Reality shifters dot com. All right,
I'll be back on the other side of the sharp
(54:51):
break as our number two of the Exxon with Here's
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