December 26, 2025 • 41 mins
In this thought-provoking edition of Rob McConnell Interviews, Daniel Friedmann discusses The Genesis One Code, a groundbreaking exploration of hidden structure, language, and meaning within the opening chapter of the Bible. Friedmann presents evidence that Genesis 1 may contain an advanced informational framework—one that bridges theology, mathematics, linguistics, and consciousness. This conversation challenges traditional interpretations of scripture and invites listeners to consider whether the Book of Genesis encodes a deeper understanding of creation, reality, and humanity’s place in the universe. A compelling discussion for seekers of biblical mysteries, sacred science, and hidden knowledge.
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and Europe. My guess this hour is Daniel Friedman. We're
going to be talking to Daniel about the Genesis one Code.
And the older and more knowledgeable we get, the more
likely we are to seek explanations from both science and
the supernatural for our biggest questions. And according to UH
(02:19):
and this is according to a new psychology study, science
and religion coexist harmonically excuse me, in the minds of
most people, they are not competing a domain, says engineering
physicist Daniel Friedman, the author of The Genesis one Code.
And this shows how science and religion agree on the
timeless timelines for development of the universe and the appearance
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of life on Earth. Joining me now is Daniel Friedman.
And Daniel, welcome to the X Zone. Congratulations on a
great book.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Thank you, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Tell us what was your inspiration into writing The Genesis
one Code.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Basically, I've had the question myself for a long time.
You know which is right, the scientific explanation of our
origins or the biblical explanation of our origins. But what
really brought it home in the last few years is
my nephews and nieces that you know, became teenagers who
went back to school and had all the same questions
(03:20):
I had at the time, and of course today with
a much higher knowledge from a scientific point of view,
and those questions became even more and more relevant. And
in an attempt to answer those questions and to do
the research and eventually to get to the conclusions I
got to, I ended up writing the book Why.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Do you think it's so necessary in today's today's time
and age that the question about creation that has been
boggling our minds is since the beginning of recorded history,
since the recording of time seems to be so important
to everyone.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, it's getting more and more important. And I think
it's because we're learning more and more. We had amazing
scientific advances and we all see the Hubble space telescope
pictures and read about all these amazing number of stars
and black holes and so on. And at the same time,
most people in the Western world have been brought up
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with some kind of creation narrative, particularly from Genesis, which
at first blushed to most seems to be quite different
than contradictory, and this of course has led to the
famous kind of creation evolution debate, as you mentioned, have
been going on forever, still an issue in the presidential
election in the state. So the stories are getting more
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and more apart, and because they're getting more and more
apart and people, the polls show that people are still
fundamentally trying to have a camp in a foot In
both camps, people are and I do not want to
dismiss the Biblical story. Over eighty five percent of the
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US population, as the numbers I have believe that God
has been involved in some shape or form and creation.
Only fifteen percent believe in only a natural evolution. But nonetheless,
despite those eighty five percent, more than half believe that
maybe the process that God used was evolutionary. So you
can see the integration going on between science and religion there.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Do you think today's society has outgrown the need for religion?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, I would almost say the opposite. From my observations.
There seems to be a move back to spirituality. I
don't know, I don't know if that's religion or not.
But the more technologically advanced we get, the more popular,
a lot of spirituality type of things, not just religion,
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but yoga and other things become so, if anything, we
seem to be pushing in both directions somehow.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
All right, stand by, Daniel, You and I have to
take our first two minute commercial break. Ex O Nation.
Daniel Friedman is our special guest. He is the author
of Now do you have your pencils on paper ready?
I'm sure you do, The Genesis one Code. His website
is www dot Genesis one code dot com and that's
the word O n E code dot com. We'll be
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back on the other side of this two minute break.
Don't go away, Welcome back to the excellent everyone. Daniel
(06:53):
Friedman is my special guest this hour. He is the
CEO of m D a and Aerospace Company in Canada, which,
among other things, specializes in robotics used on the International
Space Station. He has a master's in engineering physics and
thirty years experience in the space industry. He has published
more than twenty peer reviewed scientific papers on space industry topics.
(07:16):
He is also a longtime student of cosmology and religion,
and he is the author of a great book, The
Genesis one. Coode at www dot Genesis onecode dot com,
and that's genesisne code dot com being part of the
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space industry, which is really high tech compared to cosmology
and religion, which is based on belief. How do the
two tie together.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Well, that's the interesting part. I mean, in the space industry,
of course, a lot of what we do relates to
looking at the cosmos. So I live every day with
the reality that we can see what's going out in
the cost. In fact, we can see because LFE takes
time to travel, we can see back twelve billion years
in time when we look through the Hubbles based telescope
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and see what things were like back then. At the
same time, my religious studies point to on Earth being
created six thousand years ago, and so it certainly brings
the whole question of science and religion and our origins
into complete focus, demanding some kind of an integration and
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an answer.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So, in your opinion, does science ever corroborate religion or
vice versa.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Absolutely? In fact, my whole book is about that. I
tell the understanding from science about how the universe and
life came to be, and then I take the understanding
from religion, or at least the Abramaic religions, genesis of
how the world and life came to be. And you
(09:07):
know what I did is I discovered something quite remarkable
that there is an incredible agreement on what happened and
when it happened. So what meaning like you know, the
first life or the sun, and when meaning like four
and a half billion years ago for the Sun, and
there there isn't an agreement on how it happened. That's difference.
(09:28):
The explansion is science and the expedition religion is different.
And of course why And in fact that's once you
agree on what happened and when it happened, and you
see that the two work together, you can shed a
lot of light on the how. And I think you
can see that religion and light in science and vice versa.
(09:48):
There's many examples of that that I go over in
the Genesis one code.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know, there seems to be a lot of debate
even between members of the scientific community about what really
happened at the beginning? What is your what do you
believe in your heart of hearts based on the research
that you've done, started all of our existence, started life
here on this planet. Was it the Big Bang?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Okay? So you know This is the very interesting part.
In science. We know what happened very very detailed and
very precisely, from right after the beginning until today. We
have a fourteen billion year history of what happened, how
the galaxy is developed, and the stars developed, and our
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solar system developed and everything else. We understand it very well.
We can actually see it in pictures. But we don't
understand what happened right at the beginning because we cannot
see that. We cannot experiment and reproduce that. And in fact,
the mathematical theory, which is the Big Bang theory, doesn't
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give us an answer for the very very beginning. This
is an answer for everything else. But at the beginning
need the same kind of magical explosion. And on the
religion account what you will find and we need to
get into a little bit more detail. But we are
told in the Bible how things are happening. We are
told when quote unquote a miracle or a divine intervention
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is taking place, and when things are evolving naturally through
the forces of nature. And it turns out that in
the cosmological account of the Bible, which is the first
four days of creation in Genesis, they went through four.
Everything in that account is a natural occurrence of cost
and effects of physical laws, except except the beginning. The
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account clearly states that in the beginning there was an
divine act out of nothing. Something was made after that,
It says clearly, you will understand it of if you
study physics, not non argument, but you will not understand
the beginning. And that's precisely what we don't understand today.
So two other events related to lives that have the
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same same situation, which are the making of this species
and the human soul. Those are the three acts the
very beginning, the different species and the human soul that
the Bible clearly tells us our divine acts of creation,
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And the definition of creation is something out of nothing.
So it's like a magician pulling a rabbit out of
the air. Every other act, every other act is an
act of formation, an act of formation. And I'm translating,
of course, from the original Hebrew into the English, which
are not as rich. But an act of formation is
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making something from something else, making a table out of wood,
making a star out of hydrogen, and so on. And
those acts of formation are all done in a natural
cause and effect. Now, how do we know that because
the Bible uses different names for God throughout the Bible.
In English, we see Lord, King, father, and son. In
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the Hebrews, very specific names, very specific meaning. And whatever
name is being used is the name that is acting.
So if you call me an engineer, you would expect
me to act in a professional manner, methodical and so on.
If you call me dad, I go to pieces and
I do whatever you tell me exactly. So God is
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the same. He has different names, and he's got the
engineer name in the whole of Chapter one of Genesis,
except for those three events that are divine.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So should understand it as an engineer, as a scientist,
as a physicist, how do you prove there's a human soul?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Oh that's a whole other stuff. Now we're jumping to life.
So I don't have any way to prove as a
human soul. But I can go to the Bible and
it tells me that the fact that humans have a
human soul, animals have a soul too. It's an animal soul,
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but human have a The humans have an animal soul too.
You know, we we can behave like animals pretty easily,
but we have a divine component to our souls. It's
called a divine soul that's different than any other creature.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, but don't forget that the Bible was written by humans,
not by God himself. So is it possible that it
wasn't God who created life, but it was life who
created God in order to answer questions that mankind at
the time never had the answers to or the ability
to find the answers except through mythological folklore.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's you know, that's the age of the age Old questions,
of course, and that would be possible. And however, what
else you know, if you want to stick to proofs
and engineering, what I do in my book is I
go to the Bible, and I extract from the Bible,
strictly from the Bible, not using any other anything else.
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Twenty events. You know, it made the sun first life.
And I have a very very simple formula which is
again derived from the Bible, that converts those creation time
events to what we measure in science or scientific time,
and they match. Now, that's an impossible coincidence. No human
that wrote the Bible. And I'm not suggesting that humans
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wrote the Bible. But if the Bible, I know why
I could have gotten that right.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I'm saying that humans wrote the Bible.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Okay, I couldn't have gotten that right. They couldn't have
gotten thirteen point seven billion years right, four and a
half billion years right, in fact when they wrote it.
If they wrote it, that was not the belief at all.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
But being a scientist, a physicist, how can you base
your entire theory or your entire work based on a
book to which there's no physical proof.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Well, you know what I'm doing is I am going
to peer reviewed science and I am taking that at
face value because I'm very smart people put that science together.
And I'm saying that science tells us when the how
old the universes, how old the sun is, when life
first came to be, all of those things at twenty facts,
(16:26):
straightforward fact that today are not disputed. I am then
going to the scriptures in a scientific way and I'm saying, Okay,
I'm going to take them at face value. They claim
they came from God, And what do those scriptures say
about those same twenty events? And you know it matches
the time when those events happen and what those events
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were match. Furthermore, in the three places where the scriptures
tell us you will not understand things scientifically. We don't today.
Now someonell argue we might tomorrow, but today we don't
understand those three things.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
When and everything else what happens one hundred times, one
hundred years from now? Science develops new theories and quantum physics,
quantum mechanics, and they take a look at the Bible
and say, you know what, this is all myth, legend, folklore.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Well, I've already done that.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Okay. So you know, how can we as a human
race put so much faith in a book to which
there is no actual proof?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well, I mean part of my book and is not
the whole answer, But part of my book is to
show you that, you know that the best way we
have of proving something is we go and measure it right,
and we go and look at it. So I just
took the Bible from a scientific point of view, and
I says, okay, it's just right here in this paragraph
that the sun appeared at this time. Now is that
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what I can see from science? And the answer is yes,
it coins sides and it coincides for a raft of
other events. No, how could that be right? Like, how
could anybody get that right? Unless they have divine fore knowledge.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I mean, well, don't we have to establish what divine
four knowledge is before we can give it any credibility.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Well, what I'm saying is that there's a book. Those
people that follow that book called the Bible claim it
is correct. I've analyzed it, and I've compared to other
people who have written a different book, which is a
munch of scientific papers, which is the story of creation
or the development of the universe from a scientific point
of view. And I just I am detached from both.
(18:37):
I try to be detached from both. And people say
that I've accomplished that in the book. Obviously I have
a bias myself, but I try to take that out
of the book, in the Genesis one Code, and I
just compare them. All.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Right, stand by, we've got to take it all right,
stand bye, We've got to take our news break at
the bottom of the hour. Daniel Friedman is our guest
of this our ex onation. He's the author of the
Genesis one Code w w UW dot Genesis onecode dot com.
That's Genesis O n E code dot com. My name
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Daniel Friedman is our special guest for this hour. He's
written a book that I'm sure is going to shake
up a lot of people, and you know, with Christmas
time coming, this is the type of book that if
you have somebody that's into science, if you have someone
that's into cosmology, if you have someone who's who's into
understanding the paranormal, this is the type of book that
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they would really appreciate getting for Christmas. It's called The
Genesis one Code. Daniel Friedman is the author and Daniel's
website is www dot Genesis o n E Code dot com.
That's Genesis one code dot com. Going back to the
to the scientific values that you discussed in your book
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and how you tie the two together, Daniel, how do
we explain the cast of characters in the Bible? For example,
the Bible talks about the creation of men Adam and Eve,
and then how their families prospered and they set it
around the world. My question to you is, if God
created Adam and Eve, wouldn't everybody around the world look
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the same?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I don't. I don't see why. I mean, we know
today that we are made of a DNA, and that
DNA mutates and adapts to different situations like hot climates,
darker skin, and so on, and less food, smaller people,
and more food larger people. And we understand today that
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the whatever we're made of is that it adapts to
all these different things, and we expect the difference is
not just in humans, but in all life.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So tell me, do you think that we were created
by accident by chance?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Me personally, after having researched all this and looked at
the scientific side and the biblical side, No, I think
I think there was divine intervention, at least when it
comes to our soul. Our body could have been done
in a very similar way to other animals. But it's
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pretty clear that we're different than than than animals, and
that difference comes from the thing we call a soul.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If we were created on purpose, even even the soul.
All right, yeah, are there life forms on other planets
that have the same soul that we have?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Okay, well that's beyond the scope of my of my
my research. But we of course science hasn't had it
doesn't have a definitive answer for us that, and at
least my understanding the Bible is there's just no definitive
answer there for that either.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
So so based on based on that, are you saying
that your your book is only based on earthlings?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
My you know, my book is based on looking at
what we know in science and what the Bible says
at face value and comparing and contrasting that. And so
I didn't go into extraterrestrials because frankly, I just don't
have any information definitive one way or another. But we
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do know that we exist today, we know what we're like,
we know how long we've been around two hundred thousand years,
and we know the hope at of other things before us.
That knowledge we have, and we have a lot of
description of the creation on this planet in the Bible.
That's what I can work with, all right, But.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Let's say let's say that you're correct and that a
god created us. Where did this God come from? If
he didn't come from this planet, where did he come from?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I don't have a good answer for that. All I
can say is that that God is claimed by the
people that have passed the Bible down for thousands of
years to have done twenty acts.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, I know, we've we've we've talked about this
a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
But that's all I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
But does it make sense that if there is this
God who no one has ever seen, that if he
created life on this planet, that he would have created
life on other planets, Not even if the life, but
the souls that you that you say that he created.
Doesn't that make sense in toological mind?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Uh? No, it's not obvious to me. Like you know,
we we first of all, we're made in God's image.
The best way to try and get any glimpse at
all at that is to look at ourselves. And you know,
when we make something, we make something. When we decide
to go to the moon, we set to go to
the moon, We don't decide to go everywhere else or
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so on.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So so if we're made in God's image, then we
ourselves are God.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
No, that's not the definition of God's image in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well how do you know, Like, how do you explain
with then?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Okay, Well, the way it's explained in the Bible is
that that that image means that we have free choice,
whereas other animals do not have.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Free So why was it written that we were created
in his image if that's not what he meant at all?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Well, you see, we have English translation back from Greek,
back from Hebrew, and all of these words, even the
word God is not right in the translation because as
I mentioned a little earlier, there's several names used for God,
so you always have to say which name is It's
a mister engineer, mister father, yeah, mister miracle, which one
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is it? So one have to look at that in
the full context, and I explain you know, I don't
go into a lot of that in the Genesis one code,
but I do have one chapter that explains how, just
like I explained how scientists get to answers. I explain
how people that study theology get to answers. And it's
not the image we have from Sunday School. You just
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read text. It doesn't make a lot of sense and
hasn't weird old English words in it. That's it. It's
way more quote unquote scientific than that.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
All right, So, if I understand the original Bible was
written in Greek.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
In Hebrew, in Hebrew, and what the Bible, meaning the
Old Testament, we're talking Genesis. I'm not talking about the
Bible in the in the in the in the in
the definition of the New Testament, and so I'm talking
about the creation story. The very first chapter in the
very first book of Genesis was originally written in Hebrew
and then translated to.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Greek and so on and then, and if I'm not mistaken,
it was Moses who wrote the Book of Genesis.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's what it says writ in the book.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And this is the same Moses who took the Israelites
out of Egypt, right, And isn't it also believed by
theologists today that that Christ himself and the beginning of
Genesis came out of Egypt, that it didn't come out
of Israel.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I don't have that knowledge now, okay, I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
If once again, if there is this divine entity called
God is here.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Still around.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
That's what the Bible says, yes, around that active.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I often wonder if if humans created God because we
live in a in a binary world or a binary
existence zeros in one up, down in out right wrong, wet, dry, good, evil, Heaven, Hell, God, Satan,
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and many times people use God and Satan as excuses
for their actions. So is it possible that we that
throughout history we've been using these these entities, these being
things as escapegoats for our own failures as well as
because we some people have a problem accepting praise for
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the work they've done or acknowledging the great things they've done.
They say, thank God for this, thank God for that
God made me do it.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know, that's separate as to whether God exists or
doesn't exist. That I think we as human beings are
really really good at trying to unfortunately project things outside
of us. I mean, we spend a lot of our
lives blaming our parents, never mind God or things going
right or wrong. So that that's just a human and
(29:39):
nature issue that happens irrespective of whether there's an existence
of another divine being.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
All right, if God is still around today, why isn't
he still creating?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, you know, we can look at at at things
and say it's all running like a clockwork.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
No, I disagree. I think it's sucks. I think there's
more flaws, and I think there's more flaws in this
world than could ever be imagined by anyone.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, we look at you know, we look at at
nature and it's it looks pretty amazing. And you watch
a baby being born or a kit being born, it's
pretty amazing. Yeah, when once we get into the act
with our fabulous free will and weveart shooting at each other,
it gets pretty ugly. But you know, the natural things,
if you've got in the mountains and you see what's
going on with the butterflies and the mountains and so on,
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it's it's it's pretty amazing. And and frankly, we don't
understand it all. Still, it's not it's not all that simple.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
If we can't understand the simple things in life, how
is it that we're so hell bent on to try
and understand the most complicated things in life, such as
our creation and a mythological or hypothetical or believable god.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Well, that's part of that little crazy soul we have,
you know, we we have this is uh, this this
incredible need to explore and to understand and to comprehend
those things, which is you know, we spend billions of
dollars trying to go to Mars. Well, there's all kinds
of other problems in our backyard exactly. But that's human nature.
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That's that's that's what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
If I was a god, and Lord knows I'm not
and I don't profess to be. But if I had
created something like this planet, the people on it, all
the life forms on it, and I saw the hunger,
the sorrow, the disease, the wars, I would do something
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about it. And yet this God has sat still since
the creation of man and has only given himself the
views by a very select few. And yet you look
at other cultures Greek mythology, for example, the Egyptians, they
had over two hundred and twenty gods. So how do
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we know that this God that we're talking about this
hour in the Genesis Code Genesis one code, is the
real God?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Well, there's two statements you made. You would do something
about it. I'll get back to that about the real God.
You know, My only approach to that is that you know,
if I tell you that I built that house across
the street, and then I say, and here are my plans.
These are the plans that I used to build a house,
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you could say, well, look, I don't really know if
you built the house or not. Maybe I didn't tell you.
Maybe I died a long time ago, and I just
left your letter saying look, I built the house across
the street and hear the plants. Yeah, how are you
going to test that? We can? We can have all
this intellects discussions and there's there's literally thousands of books
in the market that have these intellectual discussions. They didn't
satisfy me, so I don't want to argue their point.
(33:08):
What I did is I took those plans, yeah, and
I went to that house. So the Genesis is told
in the sources is the blueprint of creation. So there
are the plans.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I took the plans and I said, do the plans
match the house? Does Genesis match the universe? And the
answer I got was an unequivocal. Yes, and that's as
far as I can get it. I don't have an
answer for what is God? But I said that you
told me this is the plan. I checked the plan.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay, I understand where you're going. You did the very
diligent You did your work very diligently. But let's use
that that metaphor that you just used about building the house.
You know, you come up with the plans, you tell
me you that you built the house, and I go
to see the house. Did you actually go to where
creation was supposed to have started in the Middle East?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Sorry? Is it again?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I said, did you actually go to where creation the
Garden of Eden was It was believed to have been
in the Middle East when you were doing your research.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I have been to that area, Yes, and what did
you find? I didn't find the Garden of Eden?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And yet it's in the plans.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Uh No, the plans said that all that was changed.
It was existed at that time. And in my research
I have I have checked given the display tectonics of
all the continents around where those continents were, and they
were in the equator, they weren't in the North Pole.
So you could have had a pretty decent garden, sure,
and so on and so forth, but that part is
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not there. I want to check the sayings that are
still there. He said he made the sun, Well, sun's
there made. He said they made the sun in Day four.
That's four and four and a half billion years ago.
That's what science says. Uh. He said he made first
life in the waters. We've come to that conclusion scientistically.
He said he made that that life three point five
billion years ago. Science has come to the same conclusion,
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and so forth for for many events. That's that's what
I went to check. So you go check on Adam.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You know you've done.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Your homework, no two ways about it, and I applaud
you for that. But how come there are so many
other religions If there's only one God, or was God?
Did God have brothers and sisters?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No, there's no, there's no, no collaboration of that in
the in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
But once again that once again you're talking about the
collaboration in the Bible. When you look at Greek mythology,
when you look at the Egyptian history, it's totally different
from that found in the Bible. You and I have
to take our final break We'll be back on the
other side of this commercial break, as The Excellent continues
with Daniel Friedoman Friedman, I'm sorry. His website is www
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dot Genesis one code dot com and he's the author
of the Genesis one Code. We'll be back. Don't go away.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
H m H.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Daniel Friedman is my guest this hour. He is the
author of Genesis one Code. His website is www dot
Genesis O N E C O D E. First of all, Daniel,
as I told you during the break, it's been great
having you with us. I've enjoyed this conversation immensely. I
wish you the best of success with your book. But
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what would you like people to walk away with? What
would you like them to learn take from your book?
At the end?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Okay, well, thank you so much for having me, and
thank you so much for asking that question. You know,
what I'd like people to do is that we have
a very thorough, excellent scientific body of knowledge derive in
a very systematic way, which by and large is right,
and a huge proportion of our population dismisses it because
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they look at the Bible and says it doesn't agree
with it. We also have a very rich heritage. And
I know there's a lot of religions, but I'm sticking
with the one I know about you Judaism and Christianity
and Islam that relies on genesis to different extents. And
they also have some really smart guys have been around
for thousands of years off and on, and they've done
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a lot of studying. And what I tried to do
in my book, and what I challenge other people to
do is to look at both bodies of knowledge and
learn from each And I think you will find, like
I found on an extraordinary trip, that they enlighten each other,
that they don't contradict themselves that much. They do some places.
But if we're gonna get to the answer to our
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most basic question of our ora origins, we need all
the help we can get. We can't just go with
one side or the other. We need to look at
both sides and we need to try and integrate it.
And other people that know other religions can do bring
that along.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You know a lot of people ask the question, why
are we here? Do we really need the answer to
that question?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Boy, I definitely do every morning.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Why you know it's not going to change anything. You
still have to go to work, You still have to
pay your bills, you still have to to pick the
kids up, you still have to cut the lawn. What
will it change?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Well, you know, when I to work, I really put
everything into it, and I think it makes a difference.
And I think it's important to in my case, employ
other people and give other people a chance to do
things and advance things to make our life better. And
I'm sure everybody else has that. If I just came
to work to buy get money, to buy food tonight,
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to wake up tomorrow morning, I think I'd die Why
because said there's no meaning or purposes that at all,
and just trying to stay lives. What is the point
of that?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
All right?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
But on the other side of the coin, if you
knew where we came from, and let's say one hundred
years from now or even next week, something comes along
that says, hey, you know what we can prove beyond
the shadow of about that all this is just sheer accident.
What happens then? How does that change your life?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
That's a big problem.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Why you still have to go to work, you still
have to pay your bills, you still have the hydro
company to pay, still have bell Canada to pay.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
It changes not truth, that's true. So you know, there's
there's two aspects to us. There's the animal aspect. You know,
we have to eat and we do what we need
to eat. And then there were as we've spoken about
our human soul that wants to go to the moon
and wants to know where we are and wants to
love the kids.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know, you know, we're.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Running out of time very fast. But when we talk
about going to the moon, we went there, spent all
that money for what nothing?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
How well, we found out how old the moon is.
We found out a lot about how the other system
and the Earth was made. We're part of the way
to the answer to our origins.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, all right, thank you very much, Daniel, nice talking
to you. Congratulations, excellanation. Our guest this hour has been
Daniel Friedman, and once again he is the author of
Genesis one Code. I don't know what would how would
your life change if tomorrow you received a call where
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it was all over CNN and other news outlets that
you know what scientists have proved beyond the shadow of
it out that creation was all by chance, that there
is no divine intervention. Would that change your life, tell
you something wouldn't change mine. I'd still have to come
to work the next day. My name is Rob McConnell.
This is the x Owa. I'll be back on the
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And the older and more knowledgeable we get, the more
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and this is according to a new psychology study, science
and religion coexist harmonically excuse me, in the minds of
most people, they are not competing a domain, says engineering
physicist Daniel Friedman, the author of The Genesis one Code.
And this shows how science and religion agree on the
timeless timelines for development of the universe and the appearance
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of life on Earth. Joining me now is Daniel Friedman.
And Daniel, welcome to the X Zone. Congratulations on a
great book.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Thank you, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Tell us what was your inspiration into writing The Genesis
one Code.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Basically, I've had the question myself for a long time.
You know which is right, the scientific explanation of our
origins or the biblical explanation of our origins. But what
really brought it home in the last few years is
my nephews and nieces that you know, became teenagers who
went back to school and had all the same questions
(03:20):
I had at the time, and of course today with
a much higher knowledge from a scientific point of view,
and those questions became even more and more relevant. And
in an attempt to answer those questions and to do
the research and eventually to get to the conclusions I
got to, I ended up writing the book Why.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Do you think it's so necessary in today's today's time
and age that the question about creation that has been
boggling our minds is since the beginning of recorded history,
since the recording of time seems to be so important
to everyone.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, it's getting more and more important. And I think
it's because we're learning more and more. We had amazing
scientific advances and we all see the Hubble space telescope
pictures and read about all these amazing number of stars
and black holes and so on. And at the same time,
most people in the Western world have been brought up
(04:21):
with some kind of creation narrative, particularly from Genesis, which
at first blushed to most seems to be quite different
than contradictory, and this of course has led to the
famous kind of creation evolution debate, as you mentioned, have
been going on forever, still an issue in the presidential
election in the state. So the stories are getting more
(04:45):
and more apart, and because they're getting more and more
apart and people, the polls show that people are still
fundamentally trying to have a camp in a foot In
both camps, people are and I do not want to
dismiss the Biblical story. Over eighty five percent of the
(05:06):
US population, as the numbers I have believe that God
has been involved in some shape or form and creation.
Only fifteen percent believe in only a natural evolution. But nonetheless,
despite those eighty five percent, more than half believe that
maybe the process that God used was evolutionary. So you
can see the integration going on between science and religion there.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Do you think today's society has outgrown the need for religion?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, I would almost say the opposite. From my observations.
There seems to be a move back to spirituality. I
don't know, I don't know if that's religion or not.
But the more technologically advanced we get, the more popular,
a lot of spirituality type of things, not just religion,
(05:55):
but yoga and other things become so, if anything, we
seem to be pushing in both directions somehow.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
All right, stand by, Daniel, You and I have to
take our first two minute commercial break. Ex O Nation.
Daniel Friedman is our special guest. He is the author
of Now do you have your pencils on paper ready?
I'm sure you do, The Genesis one Code. His website
is www dot Genesis one code dot com and that's
the word O n E code dot com. We'll be
(06:25):
back on the other side of this two minute break.
Don't go away, Welcome back to the excellent everyone. Daniel
(06:53):
Friedman is my special guest this hour. He is the
CEO of m D a and Aerospace Company in Canada, which,
among other things, specializes in robotics used on the International
Space Station. He has a master's in engineering physics and
thirty years experience in the space industry. He has published
more than twenty peer reviewed scientific papers on space industry topics.
(07:16):
He is also a longtime student of cosmology and religion,
and he is the author of a great book, The
Genesis one. Coode at www dot Genesis onecode dot com,
and that's genesisne code dot com being part of the
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space industry, which is really high tech compared to cosmology
and religion, which is based on belief. How do the
two tie together.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Well, that's the interesting part. I mean, in the space industry,
of course, a lot of what we do relates to
looking at the cosmos. So I live every day with
the reality that we can see what's going out in
the cost. In fact, we can see because LFE takes
time to travel, we can see back twelve billion years
in time when we look through the Hubbles based telescope
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and see what things were like back then. At the
same time, my religious studies point to on Earth being
created six thousand years ago, and so it certainly brings
the whole question of science and religion and our origins
into complete focus, demanding some kind of an integration and
(08:35):
an answer.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So, in your opinion, does science ever corroborate religion or
vice versa.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Absolutely? In fact, my whole book is about that. I
tell the understanding from science about how the universe and
life came to be, and then I take the understanding
from religion, or at least the Abramaic religions, genesis of
how the world and life came to be. And you
(09:07):
know what I did is I discovered something quite remarkable
that there is an incredible agreement on what happened and
when it happened. So what meaning like you know, the
first life or the sun, and when meaning like four
and a half billion years ago for the Sun, and
there there isn't an agreement on how it happened. That's difference.
(09:28):
The explansion is science and the expedition religion is different.
And of course why And in fact that's once you
agree on what happened and when it happened, and you
see that the two work together, you can shed a
lot of light on the how. And I think you
can see that religion and light in science and vice versa.
(09:48):
There's many examples of that that I go over in
the Genesis one code.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know, there seems to be a lot of debate
even between members of the scientific community about what really
happened at the beginning? What is your what do you
believe in your heart of hearts based on the research
that you've done, started all of our existence, started life
here on this planet. Was it the Big Bang?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Okay? So you know This is the very interesting part.
In science. We know what happened very very detailed and
very precisely, from right after the beginning until today. We
have a fourteen billion year history of what happened, how
the galaxy is developed, and the stars developed, and our
(10:34):
solar system developed and everything else. We understand it very well.
We can actually see it in pictures. But we don't
understand what happened right at the beginning because we cannot
see that. We cannot experiment and reproduce that. And in fact,
the mathematical theory, which is the Big Bang theory, doesn't
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give us an answer for the very very beginning. This
is an answer for everything else. But at the beginning
need the same kind of magical explosion. And on the
religion account what you will find and we need to
get into a little bit more detail. But we are
told in the Bible how things are happening. We are
told when quote unquote a miracle or a divine intervention
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is taking place, and when things are evolving naturally through
the forces of nature. And it turns out that in
the cosmological account of the Bible, which is the first
four days of creation in Genesis, they went through four.
Everything in that account is a natural occurrence of cost
and effects of physical laws, except except the beginning. The
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account clearly states that in the beginning there was an
divine act out of nothing. Something was made after that,
It says clearly, you will understand it of if you
study physics, not non argument, but you will not understand
the beginning. And that's precisely what we don't understand today.
So two other events related to lives that have the
(12:06):
same same situation, which are the making of this species
and the human soul. Those are the three acts the
very beginning, the different species and the human soul that
the Bible clearly tells us our divine acts of creation,
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And the definition of creation is something out of nothing.
So it's like a magician pulling a rabbit out of
the air. Every other act, every other act is an
act of formation, an act of formation. And I'm translating,
of course, from the original Hebrew into the English, which
are not as rich. But an act of formation is
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making something from something else, making a table out of wood,
making a star out of hydrogen, and so on. And
those acts of formation are all done in a natural
cause and effect. Now, how do we know that because
the Bible uses different names for God throughout the Bible.
In English, we see Lord, King, father, and son. In
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the Hebrews, very specific names, very specific meaning. And whatever
name is being used is the name that is acting.
So if you call me an engineer, you would expect
me to act in a professional manner, methodical and so on.
If you call me dad, I go to pieces and
I do whatever you tell me exactly. So God is
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the same. He has different names, and he's got the
engineer name in the whole of Chapter one of Genesis,
except for those three events that are divine.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So should understand it as an engineer, as a scientist,
as a physicist, how do you prove there's a human soul?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Oh that's a whole other stuff. Now we're jumping to life.
So I don't have any way to prove as a
human soul. But I can go to the Bible and
it tells me that the fact that humans have a
human soul, animals have a soul too. It's an animal soul,
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but human have a The humans have an animal soul too.
You know, we we can behave like animals pretty easily,
but we have a divine component to our souls. It's
called a divine soul that's different than any other creature.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, but don't forget that the Bible was written by humans,
not by God himself. So is it possible that it
wasn't God who created life, but it was life who
created God in order to answer questions that mankind at
the time never had the answers to or the ability
to find the answers except through mythological folklore.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's you know, that's the age of the age Old questions,
of course, and that would be possible. And however, what
else you know, if you want to stick to proofs
and engineering, what I do in my book is I
go to the Bible, and I extract from the Bible,
strictly from the Bible, not using any other anything else.
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Twenty events. You know, it made the sun first life.
And I have a very very simple formula which is
again derived from the Bible, that converts those creation time
events to what we measure in science or scientific time,
and they match. Now, that's an impossible coincidence. No human
that wrote the Bible. And I'm not suggesting that humans
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wrote the Bible. But if the Bible, I know why
I could have gotten that right.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I'm saying that humans wrote the Bible.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Okay, I couldn't have gotten that right. They couldn't have
gotten thirteen point seven billion years right, four and a
half billion years right, in fact when they wrote it.
If they wrote it, that was not the belief at all.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
But being a scientist, a physicist, how can you base
your entire theory or your entire work based on a
book to which there's no physical proof.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Well, you know what I'm doing is I am going
to peer reviewed science and I am taking that at
face value because I'm very smart people put that science together.
And I'm saying that science tells us when the how
old the universes, how old the sun is, when life
first came to be, all of those things at twenty facts,
(16:26):
straightforward fact that today are not disputed. I am then
going to the scriptures in a scientific way and I'm saying, Okay,
I'm going to take them at face value. They claim
they came from God, And what do those scriptures say
about those same twenty events? And you know it matches
the time when those events happen and what those events
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were match. Furthermore, in the three places where the scriptures
tell us you will not understand things scientifically. We don't today.
Now someonell argue we might tomorrow, but today we don't
understand those three things.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
When and everything else what happens one hundred times, one
hundred years from now? Science develops new theories and quantum physics,
quantum mechanics, and they take a look at the Bible
and say, you know what, this is all myth, legend, folklore.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Well, I've already done that.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Okay. So you know, how can we as a human
race put so much faith in a book to which
there is no actual proof?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well, I mean part of my book and is not
the whole answer, But part of my book is to
show you that, you know that the best way we
have of proving something is we go and measure it right,
and we go and look at it. So I just
took the Bible from a scientific point of view, and
I says, okay, it's just right here in this paragraph
that the sun appeared at this time. Now is that
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what I can see from science? And the answer is yes,
it coins sides and it coincides for a raft of
other events. No, how could that be right? Like, how
could anybody get that right? Unless they have divine fore knowledge.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I mean, well, don't we have to establish what divine
four knowledge is before we can give it any credibility.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Well, what I'm saying is that there's a book. Those
people that follow that book called the Bible claim it
is correct. I've analyzed it, and I've compared to other
people who have written a different book, which is a
munch of scientific papers, which is the story of creation
or the development of the universe from a scientific point
of view. And I just I am detached from both.
(18:37):
I try to be detached from both. And people say
that I've accomplished that in the book. Obviously I have
a bias myself, but I try to take that out
of the book, in the Genesis one Code, and I
just compare them. All.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Right, stand by, we've got to take it all right,
stand bye, We've got to take our news break at
the bottom of the hour. Daniel Friedman is our guest
of this our ex onation. He's the author of the
Genesis one Code w w UW dot Genesis onecode dot com.
That's Genesis O n E code dot com. My name
(19:08):
is Robin Connell.
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Daniel Friedman is our special guest for this hour. He's
written a book that I'm sure is going to shake
up a lot of people, and you know, with Christmas
time coming, this is the type of book that if
you have somebody that's into science, if you have someone
that's into cosmology, if you have someone who's who's into
understanding the paranormal, this is the type of book that
(21:06):
they would really appreciate getting for Christmas. It's called The
Genesis one Code. Daniel Friedman is the author and Daniel's
website is www dot Genesis o n E Code dot com.
That's Genesis one code dot com. Going back to the
to the scientific values that you discussed in your book
(21:29):
and how you tie the two together, Daniel, how do
we explain the cast of characters in the Bible? For example,
the Bible talks about the creation of men Adam and Eve,
and then how their families prospered and they set it
around the world. My question to you is, if God
created Adam and Eve, wouldn't everybody around the world look
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the same?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I don't. I don't see why. I mean, we know
today that we are made of a DNA, and that
DNA mutates and adapts to different situations like hot climates,
darker skin, and so on, and less food, smaller people,
and more food larger people. And we understand today that
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the whatever we're made of is that it adapts to
all these different things, and we expect the difference is
not just in humans, but in all life.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So tell me, do you think that we were created
by accident by chance?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Me personally, after having researched all this and looked at
the scientific side and the biblical side, No, I think
I think there was divine intervention, at least when it
comes to our soul. Our body could have been done
in a very similar way to other animals. But it's
(22:56):
pretty clear that we're different than than than animals, and
that difference comes from the thing we call a soul.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If we were created on purpose, even even the soul.
All right, yeah, are there life forms on other planets
that have the same soul that we have?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Okay, well that's beyond the scope of my of my
my research. But we of course science hasn't had it
doesn't have a definitive answer for us that, and at
least my understanding the Bible is there's just no definitive
answer there for that either.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
So so based on based on that, are you saying
that your your book is only based on earthlings?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
My you know, my book is based on looking at
what we know in science and what the Bible says
at face value and comparing and contrasting that. And so
I didn't go into extraterrestrials because frankly, I just don't
have any information definitive one way or another. But we
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do know that we exist today, we know what we're like,
we know how long we've been around two hundred thousand years,
and we know the hope at of other things before us.
That knowledge we have, and we have a lot of
description of the creation on this planet in the Bible.
That's what I can work with, all right, But.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Let's say let's say that you're correct and that a
god created us. Where did this God come from? If
he didn't come from this planet, where did he come from?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I don't have a good answer for that. All I
can say is that that God is claimed by the
people that have passed the Bible down for thousands of
years to have done twenty acts.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, I know, we've we've we've talked about this
a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
But that's all I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
But does it make sense that if there is this
God who no one has ever seen, that if he
created life on this planet, that he would have created
life on other planets, Not even if the life, but
the souls that you that you say that he created.
Doesn't that make sense in toological mind?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Uh? No, it's not obvious to me. Like you know,
we we first of all, we're made in God's image.
The best way to try and get any glimpse at
all at that is to look at ourselves. And you know,
when we make something, we make something. When we decide
to go to the moon, we set to go to
the moon, We don't decide to go everywhere else or
(25:51):
so on.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So so if we're made in God's image, then we
ourselves are God.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
No, that's not the definition of God's image in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well how do you know, Like, how do you explain
with then?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Okay, Well, the way it's explained in the Bible is
that that that image means that we have free choice,
whereas other animals do not have.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Free So why was it written that we were created
in his image if that's not what he meant at all?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Well, you see, we have English translation back from Greek,
back from Hebrew, and all of these words, even the
word God is not right in the translation because as
I mentioned a little earlier, there's several names used for God,
so you always have to say which name is It's
a mister engineer, mister father, yeah, mister miracle, which one
(26:39):
is it? So one have to look at that in
the full context, and I explain you know, I don't
go into a lot of that in the Genesis one code,
but I do have one chapter that explains how, just
like I explained how scientists get to answers. I explain
how people that study theology get to answers. And it's
not the image we have from Sunday School. You just
(26:59):
read text. It doesn't make a lot of sense and
hasn't weird old English words in it. That's it. It's
way more quote unquote scientific than that.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
All right, So, if I understand the original Bible was
written in Greek.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
In Hebrew, in Hebrew, and what the Bible, meaning the
Old Testament, we're talking Genesis. I'm not talking about the
Bible in the in the in the in the in
the definition of the New Testament, and so I'm talking
about the creation story. The very first chapter in the
very first book of Genesis was originally written in Hebrew
and then translated to.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Greek and so on and then, and if I'm not mistaken,
it was Moses who wrote the Book of Genesis.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's what it says writ in the book.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And this is the same Moses who took the Israelites
out of Egypt, right, And isn't it also believed by
theologists today that that Christ himself and the beginning of
Genesis came out of Egypt, that it didn't come out
of Israel.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I don't have that knowledge now, okay, I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
If once again, if there is this divine entity called
God is here.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Still around.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
That's what the Bible says, yes, around that active.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I often wonder if if humans created God because we
live in a in a binary world or a binary
existence zeros in one up, down in out right wrong, wet, dry, good, evil, Heaven, Hell, God, Satan,
(28:46):
and many times people use God and Satan as excuses
for their actions. So is it possible that we that
throughout history we've been using these these entities, these being
things as escapegoats for our own failures as well as
because we some people have a problem accepting praise for
(29:07):
the work they've done or acknowledging the great things they've done.
They say, thank God for this, thank God for that
God made me do it.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know, that's separate as to whether God exists or
doesn't exist. That I think we as human beings are
really really good at trying to unfortunately project things outside
of us. I mean, we spend a lot of our
lives blaming our parents, never mind God or things going
right or wrong. So that that's just a human and
(29:39):
nature issue that happens irrespective of whether there's an existence
of another divine being.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
All right, if God is still around today, why isn't
he still creating?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, you know, we can look at at at things
and say it's all running like a clockwork.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
No, I disagree. I think it's sucks. I think there's
more flaws, and I think there's more flaws in this
world than could ever be imagined by anyone.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, we look at you know, we look at at
nature and it's it looks pretty amazing. And you watch
a baby being born or a kit being born, it's
pretty amazing. Yeah, when once we get into the act
with our fabulous free will and weveart shooting at each other,
it gets pretty ugly. But you know, the natural things,
if you've got in the mountains and you see what's
going on with the butterflies and the mountains and so on,
(30:31):
it's it's it's pretty amazing. And and frankly, we don't
understand it all. Still, it's not it's not all that simple.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
If we can't understand the simple things in life, how
is it that we're so hell bent on to try
and understand the most complicated things in life, such as
our creation and a mythological or hypothetical or believable god.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Well, that's part of that little crazy soul we have,
you know, we we have this is uh, this this
incredible need to explore and to understand and to comprehend
those things, which is you know, we spend billions of
dollars trying to go to Mars. Well, there's all kinds
of other problems in our backyard exactly. But that's human nature.
(31:19):
That's that's that's what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
If I was a god, and Lord knows I'm not
and I don't profess to be. But if I had
created something like this planet, the people on it, all
the life forms on it, and I saw the hunger,
the sorrow, the disease, the wars, I would do something
(31:50):
about it. And yet this God has sat still since
the creation of man and has only given himself the
views by a very select few. And yet you look
at other cultures Greek mythology, for example, the Egyptians, they
had over two hundred and twenty gods. So how do
(32:12):
we know that this God that we're talking about this
hour in the Genesis Code Genesis one code, is the
real God?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Well, there's two statements you made. You would do something
about it. I'll get back to that about the real God.
You know, My only approach to that is that you know,
if I tell you that I built that house across
the street, and then I say, and here are my plans.
These are the plans that I used to build a house,
(32:46):
you could say, well, look, I don't really know if
you built the house or not. Maybe I didn't tell you.
Maybe I died a long time ago, and I just
left your letter saying look, I built the house across
the street and hear the plants. Yeah, how are you
going to test that? We can? We can have all
this intellects discussions and there's there's literally thousands of books
in the market that have these intellectual discussions. They didn't
satisfy me, so I don't want to argue their point.
(33:08):
What I did is I took those plans, yeah, and
I went to that house. So the Genesis is told
in the sources is the blueprint of creation. So there
are the plans.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I took the plans and I said, do the plans
match the house? Does Genesis match the universe? And the
answer I got was an unequivocal. Yes, and that's as
far as I can get it. I don't have an
answer for what is God? But I said that you
told me this is the plan. I checked the plan.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay, I understand where you're going. You did the very
diligent You did your work very diligently. But let's use
that that metaphor that you just used about building the house.
You know, you come up with the plans, you tell
me you that you built the house, and I go
to see the house. Did you actually go to where
creation was supposed to have started in the Middle East?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Sorry? Is it again?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I said, did you actually go to where creation the
Garden of Eden was It was believed to have been
in the Middle East when you were doing your research.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I have been to that area, Yes, and what did
you find? I didn't find the Garden of Eden?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And yet it's in the plans.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Uh No, the plans said that all that was changed.
It was existed at that time. And in my research
I have I have checked given the display tectonics of
all the continents around where those continents were, and they
were in the equator, they weren't in the North Pole.
So you could have had a pretty decent garden, sure,
and so on and so forth, but that part is
(34:44):
not there. I want to check the sayings that are
still there. He said he made the sun, Well, sun's
there made. He said they made the sun in Day four.
That's four and four and a half billion years ago.
That's what science says. Uh. He said he made first
life in the waters. We've come to that conclusion scientistically.
He said he made that that life three point five
billion years ago. Science has come to the same conclusion,
(35:07):
and so forth for for many events. That's that's what
I went to check. So you go check on Adam.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You know you've done.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Your homework, no two ways about it, and I applaud
you for that. But how come there are so many
other religions If there's only one God, or was God?
Did God have brothers and sisters?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No, there's no, there's no, no collaboration of that in
the in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
But once again that once again you're talking about the
collaboration in the Bible. When you look at Greek mythology,
when you look at the Egyptian history, it's totally different
from that found in the Bible. You and I have
to take our final break We'll be back on the
other side of this commercial break, as The Excellent continues
with Daniel Friedoman Friedman, I'm sorry. His website is www
(35:58):
dot Genesis one code dot com and he's the author
of the Genesis one Code. We'll be back. Don't go away.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
H m H.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Daniel Friedman is my guest this hour. He is the
author of Genesis one Code. His website is www dot
Genesis O N E C O D E. First of all, Daniel,
as I told you during the break, it's been great
having you with us. I've enjoyed this conversation immensely. I
wish you the best of success with your book. But
(37:10):
what would you like people to walk away with? What
would you like them to learn take from your book?
At the end?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Okay, well, thank you so much for having me, and
thank you so much for asking that question. You know,
what I'd like people to do is that we have
a very thorough, excellent scientific body of knowledge derive in
a very systematic way, which by and large is right,
and a huge proportion of our population dismisses it because
(37:40):
they look at the Bible and says it doesn't agree
with it. We also have a very rich heritage. And
I know there's a lot of religions, but I'm sticking
with the one I know about you Judaism and Christianity
and Islam that relies on genesis to different extents. And
they also have some really smart guys have been around
for thousands of years off and on, and they've done
(38:03):
a lot of studying. And what I tried to do
in my book, and what I challenge other people to
do is to look at both bodies of knowledge and
learn from each And I think you will find, like
I found on an extraordinary trip, that they enlighten each other,
that they don't contradict themselves that much. They do some places.
But if we're gonna get to the answer to our
(38:25):
most basic question of our ora origins, we need all
the help we can get. We can't just go with
one side or the other. We need to look at
both sides and we need to try and integrate it.
And other people that know other religions can do bring
that along.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You know a lot of people ask the question, why
are we here? Do we really need the answer to
that question?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Boy, I definitely do every morning.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Why you know it's not going to change anything. You
still have to go to work, You still have to
pay your bills, you still have to to pick the
kids up, you still have to cut the lawn. What
will it change?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Well, you know, when I to work, I really put
everything into it, and I think it makes a difference.
And I think it's important to in my case, employ
other people and give other people a chance to do
things and advance things to make our life better. And
I'm sure everybody else has that. If I just came
to work to buy get money, to buy food tonight,
(39:20):
to wake up tomorrow morning, I think I'd die Why
because said there's no meaning or purposes that at all,
and just trying to stay lives. What is the point
of that?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
All right?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
But on the other side of the coin, if you
knew where we came from, and let's say one hundred
years from now or even next week, something comes along
that says, hey, you know what we can prove beyond
the shadow of about that all this is just sheer accident.
What happens then? How does that change your life?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
That's a big problem.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Why you still have to go to work, you still
have to pay your bills, you still have the hydro
company to pay, still have bell Canada to pay.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
It changes not truth, that's true. So you know, there's
there's two aspects to us. There's the animal aspect. You know,
we have to eat and we do what we need
to eat. And then there were as we've spoken about
our human soul that wants to go to the moon
and wants to know where we are and wants to
love the kids.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know, you know, we're.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Running out of time very fast. But when we talk
about going to the moon, we went there, spent all
that money for what nothing?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
How well, we found out how old the moon is.
We found out a lot about how the other system
and the Earth was made. We're part of the way
to the answer to our origins.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, all right, thank you very much, Daniel, nice talking
to you. Congratulations, excellanation. Our guest this hour has been
Daniel Friedman, and once again he is the author of
Genesis one Code. I don't know what would how would
your life change if tomorrow you received a call where
(40:51):
it was all over CNN and other news outlets that
you know what scientists have proved beyond the shadow of
it out that creation was all by chance, that there
is no divine intervention. Would that change your life, tell
you something wouldn't change mine. I'd still have to come
to work the next day. My name is Rob McConnell.
This is the x Owa. I'll be back on the
(41:11):
other side of this commercial break with the news as
we continue from our studios in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Whatever
you do, do, go wee.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
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