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the program, we welcome investigative author and political commentator Donald
Jeffries a man known for pulling back the curtain on
the darker corners of the American history. From the assassination
of JFK to the attacks on nine to eleven to
the Oklahoma City bombing and beyond. Jeffries has spent decades
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exposing their cracks and the official narratives. He's the author
of the eye opening book Hidden History, an exposaic of
modern crimes, conspiracies, and cover ups in American politics. Buckle up, folks,
because the truth the truths you've been told, may only
be half of the story. Joining me now is Donald Jeffries.
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And Donald, welcome back to the excellent great talking to
you again.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well thanks for having me on.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Don let me ask you what first led you down
the path of researching America's hidden history.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, it was a JFK assassination. That's still my wheelhouse issue,
my baby and never gone away from it. I was seven.
JFK was assassinated, but had a huge impact on me
because I was from a Catholic family and they were
all devastated. So that's one of my earliest memories and
coverage of that, and here in doubts. My father never
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believed I was ahllle bit, and so I was kind
of saturated in that, and as a teenager, I just
became interested. I heard about all these books that were
out there by people like Mark Lane Russian Judgment, and
so I just started devowering everything I could on the subject.
And Mark Lane became a hero. I saw him interviewed
and really admired his civil libertarianism, and I gravitated to that,
and that's what I based my own politics on. So
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I heard he had an organization called Citizens Committee Inquiry,
both chapters all over the country. So I volunteered and
I ended up having the chapter in my local area
and it was near his office, so I got to
meet him, and that was a heavy experience for me
because he was a genuine hero of mine. So one
of my fondest memories. And you know, from there, I
was a very far left winger that point, you know,
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really radical left winger, card carrying, remember the ACLU, and
you know, anti war activist, advocating for prisoner rights and
things like that, and obviously you know, good pay for
workers and all that stuff. So eventually, you know, it
led me to other issues that I realized the JFK
assassination didn't happened in a vacuum, that wasn't just a
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momentary lapse, you know, of corruption, that this was something
that was a standard operating procedure, And so I started
looking into all these other things. Eventually I became right wing,
and a lot of my beliefs, and especially during the Clinton years,
which I called conspiracy central in my book Hidden History,
and I started investigating all those things. I was the
first one to launch an independent investigation into what I
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believe was the assassination of John F. Kennedy Junior. And
that's one of the highlights that TheInk com Hitting History,
and also my latest book, American Memory Hall, I delved
in deeper into the assassination of JFK. Junior as well
as a lot of the other subjects. So eventually I
just came to where I at this point where I
am now. I write regularly on substack. I've had ten published,
I developed a pretty good following over on substack, and
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I basically at this point believe that that we should
not accept anything if our government, our media is talking
about reporting whatever those reporting, we know they're lying to us.
So that's what I tell people to begin at that
begin at that point that whatever it is they're telling you,
you know it's not the truth. And then you have
to try to figure out if you can figure out
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what the truth.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Is uh down, in your view, how has mainstream media
contributed to covering up or distorting key historical events and facts.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, it would be impossible for the conspirators to succeed
if it wasn't for the mainstream media. Riley, come up,
my dog is interfare with my wires here. You know
it's going down. It's like storm outside without the cooperation
of the media. That's what Jim Garrison step when he's
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a mess. The MGAF kansassins. They can never happen to
that without the cooperation of the media. And Riley go,
she keeps she's gonna end up cutting us off here
I can't get her off. But again, they operate the
way tasks and profit they did at the height of
the Soviet Union. Just the average that Sodia Soviet citizen
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understood they were being lied to. The average America doesn't understand.
They think CNN and CBS and the New York Times,
they think that they're part of a free press, and
they're obviously not as I've said, I could never have
written almost almost nothing that I've written. Could I could
have what I've been able to write if we had
a free press and we had to actually investigated a
journalist because I'm some of these things I'm trying to
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investigate with you know, no resources. Really it's very I mean,
I get a hold of some of these people, but
most of the time they're hard to get a hold of.
You know, they don't want to talk about anything. So
it's but if I had the resources of a major
television network or a big newspaper for something magazine, then
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obviously you could do a lot more. Our media won't
do I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Our media won't walk there.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Sure they won't do that. They don't allow any investigative journalism.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Let me ask you this, what is your take on
President Trump?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, that's that's a good question. I catch it from
all angles there. I have a unique take on him.
I call myself a Trump agnostic. There were the smallest
minority grow up in the world, and everybody either hates
Trump or loves him. It's the nature of his personality.
So I and people, you know, the people love Trump.
I think I hate him, and the people that hate
Trump think I love him, So I mean, I I basically,
(07:39):
I guess the best way to sum it up is
that I like most of his rhetoric, and I dislike
most of what he actually does. So I think that's
the best way to put it is that he says
a lot of great stuff. Oh he actually happens is
usually not so great. So but I'm I'm always willing to,
you know, to give him a chance. I think this
administration looks better on on paper in terms I love.
(08:02):
You know, I'm a Kennedy fan boy, so I was
very happy he picked Arf k Jr. I think whatever
good comes out of this administration will start with Arf
k JR. I like Kelsea Gabbert, and you know, those
two alone make for a pretty good you know, it's
a pretty good start. So we'll see what happens. And
(08:22):
I thought Doge was a good idea with Elon Musk,
But I'm not sure what's going on there. I don't
know if anybody nobody's been prosecuted, and so it's nice
to fraud was revealed. But we'll see what happens to
me on there. But Trump's great. His contribution maybe in
bringing the roaches out into the light where he's you know,
even no matter what he is, if he's legitimate or not,
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his rhetoric is succeeding and showing the average person how
corrupt all these people in institutions are. And I think
that's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
But there's a lot of people who believe that he
is more corrupt than anyone else in any institution.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and I think that's ridiculous. I've argued a lot
of because he I mean, I think he may have
the most obnoxious personality we've seen in office, and he
can certainly be overbearing and maddening sometimes the way he
phrases things. But you know, I do body counts for
most of these people in my book. You know, obviously
the Clinton BodyCount leads them all, But I mean, you
go back to Roosevelt. FDR had a BodyCount, LBJ had
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a huge body account. Wish has had a Bobby BodyCount.
Obama had a body BodyCount. Trump doesn't have a BodyCount
that I've seen that we see. I mean, it's hidden
really well if it's there. But he I you know,
I understand he came from he was born to a
very wealthy family and became even wealthier. And he grew
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up in New York, so it's hard to believe he
didn't come into contact with shady people in the destruction
business in New York. And I'm sure he did, so,
you know, he's hardly He's not my ideal idea of
any kind of white at night, you know, riding in
on a white horse. But I think that if you
look and I got in an argument about this on
a show a couple of weeks ago about this, but
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I mean, if you compare him just to like Obama
and Bush certainly w Bush, both Bushes, and Clinton the
more recent president. So he just he doesn't have any
All the scandals that he's kind of featured in that
we know of were fake ones like Russia game, you know,
and the lawfare prosecutions of him, which you're ridiculous. Like
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I said, I think I personally think I's part of it.
I think he's an actor. I call it the Trumpets
side project. You know, people get confused by, but people
can go to my sub stack and I've written many
articles on the Trumpet Snigne project or I think he's
an actor hired to play a role and basically to
kill the third Party movement to kill because he has
done that, we will. You know, there are many, many
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millions of populace out there. You saw that with Bernie
Sanders campaign in twenty sixteen too, and they could possibly
have joined forces under a unifying figure that was hardly Trump.
And so now everybody, because of Trump, everybody is locked
into these two disastrous parties. Tweetled them and tweetled THEE
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and the Uniparty is stronger than ever because of that.
So and I said, you know, when Trump was elected
the first time, whatever he is or whoever he is,
he's our last hope. I don't know what comes after Trump,
but I know this for what. I don't know if
he's got accomplish it, and we'll see. But actually, I mean,
he will tell you accomplished things, but he tells you
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that at the first time as well, and as people
will on the other side of say the other side
is I said, but millions of people hate him for
things he never did, and millions of people love for
things he never did. So he's a unique individual. And
I people don't have to think of me while I'm
talking about it. But I just look, I'm just telling
you the truth. I want him to. I want anyone
to succeed, certainly, you know, I'd love to see him
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solve the immigration problem, which he needs to be solved,
but I'd love to see him build the infrastructures hadn't
touched I've been touched for sixty years. I love to
see him bring home all the troops that are nonsensically
in over one hundred and fifty countries around the world.
But you know, everything, he'll talk about peace and say
some great stuff and then he just bombs Yemen.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Again exactly exactly, you know, and then he causes rhetoric
wherever he goes. For example, what hell all the talk
about Canada being the fifty first state and then taking
over taking over Greenland and then you know, Netta who
you get rid of the people in the Giza Plateau,
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send them off to Arabia and I'll take it over
and turn it into a trump Land like right. Yeah,
Sometimes I think that he doesn't realize what he's saying
and what the implication of what he says as the
president of the United States carries a lot of weight, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Or he's playing a part, Like I said, this is
because he says so many outrageous things and a lot
of times. Again, I think he at the very least
he would be a master troll. He loves to troll people. Yeah,
and so that's why you have to pretty much discard
everything he says, because he just just since he's been present,
he's tried out a lot of great ideas. He talked
about getting rid of tax on Social Security, which obviously issued.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Don don I hate to do this too. I hate
to do this too, but I've got to take a break.
Please stand by, Let's come back and continue talking about uh,
President Trump and other things ex oanation. Our guest this
hour is Donald Jeffries. His website is let me see
Donald Jeffries dot substack dot com.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Right, yeah, that's my substack yet.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Okay, we'll be back on the other side of this
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Speaker 4 (13:54):
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Speaker 7 (14:24):
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Speaker 3 (14:30):
He's going home home.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
He freed a lot of people, but seemed good.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
They die young.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
You know, I just looked down and he's m anybody
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Speaker 4 (15:00):
Can you tell.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Me where he's gone on?
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Here?
Speaker 6 (15:11):
The die young?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I just looked down and.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Excenation. Donald Jefferies is my special guest of this hour.
And Donald, just to finish off with the President Trump.
You know when he started his fifty first state rhetoric
calling our former prime minister the governor of Canada, and
then with the tyriffs and then going after Greenland, causing
rhetoric there, pulling it up this organization, that organization, and
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whenever he signed an executive order, he had to make
a big show out of it. Didn't he didn't he
talk about lowering the costs for the American consumers, that
they'd have more money in their pockets. Prices would go down.
Mind you, the price of eggs did go down. But
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it seems that all the major political promises that he
made that pertain to the individual have never been kept.
A lot more people are unemployed, and yet it continues
allowing Pete's Haigseth, the Secretary of Defense, to my god,
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what was it, twenty percent of high ranking generals and
admirals gone.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
He got rid of.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
The top people at the Pentagon when he was there.
It seems that what Trump wants are a bunch of
henchmen that agree with whatever he says, that glorify him,
bend down in front of him on one knee, and
kiss his ring at every opportunity that they have. And
the fact that he doesn't abide by the laws and
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he's not sure what his right is or what his
obligations are under the constitutions sends a very scary message,
I am sure to many Americans.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, well, certainly, but again his I would I mean,
I don't know. Maybe people have argued that is it
possible that Trump is what he appears to be at
face value just an incredibly immature, unbelievably but the ego
almost the size of ego almost we've never seen before,
the likes of which we haven't seen. I guess it's possible.
(17:28):
I think it's a little too Hollywoodish for me, and
I don't know that.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I agree with you one hundred percent. It is very hollywooish.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, so I think that again, I believe that
he was created as a character. He's playing a part
because he is so outlandish. And what happens is that
what he says and does, the people that love him
are they've already they like his brash style, and they
love the fact that the people, the powerful people that
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hate him are so bad and so awful that they
just love no matter what he says about they call
them fake news or saying get out of it. You know,
they love that even though regardless of why I say
it right and so, and I still you know, I
still do when he tells some CNN reporter off, you know,
it's it's ahilterary things. I know it's there. But the
other side is is trained to train to hate anything
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he says. I've compared Trump to Emmanuel Goldstein, who is
the opposition leader in nineteen eighty four, and you remember
the two minutes hate. Now we have twenty four to
seven hate for Trump, but in nineteen eighty four, the
people will get together and throw popcorn at the screens
and when they played gold Stein and go crazy with
that two minute hate. I think that's happening with millions
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of people and whenever they see him come on their
TV screen. But it's a twenty four to seven hate.
I see my family, and I see what that Trump
arrangement syndrome is a very real thing, and it's ruined
a lot of people, a lot of people that were
good people from the jfkre research community. And I stru
going to maintain relationships with it now because they think
of me as a Trump supporter. I mean again, I
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support what he does. It's good.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
But isn't that You're right? But isn't that your right
to support anyone that you want to. Isn't that one
of the rights that you have, just like you know,
freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and all the
other constitutional rights that you're guaranteed. And yet the President,
in his infinite wisdom, and I'm being sarcastic with that one,
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is going against his own constitution and breaking the law,
making up the rules as they go along. And in fact,
I heard one of the Supreme Court justices when asked,
you know, what would happen if the Supreme Court I
came down with a decision, which they have and he
doesn't comply, And they said, well, what are we supposed
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to do? He's the president, he makes the laws, he
breaks the laws.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
What's that we Unfortunately, again I write a lot about
judicial review. Nobody I don't think. I think I'm the
only person in America that does. Thomas Jefferson was warned
us about it when it was because that's all long.
We've had judicial reviews since John Marshall the Supreme Court justice.
And we're supposed to have a system of checks and
balances and three equal branches of the government, separate equal
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and we don't, and we haven't since the early days
of the republic because the Constitution, John Marshall usurped powers
under there. They never the founders never intended for the
Supreme Court to be the arbiter of all things constitutional,
to interpret everything. And even more so, the judicial powers
become judicial views become even more abused, as you see
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it now with Trump getting an arguments of these mostly
awful federal judges. I mean, it's you know, so many
people call America democracy. They're not a democracy. They're supposed
to be a constitution republic, but they're not that either.
We're neither one. We're an oligarchy or a plutocracy by
any definition. But however, you want to say, a democracy
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is not something where one unelected official and overturned for
the will of millions of people. And that has happened
for a long time in America. Back in the eighties
early nineties, a very different California passed overwhelming the passed
Proposition one eighty seven, which would have sensibly solved the
illegal immigration crisis. Then when it was manageable, the idea
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of them was to very reasonably deny benefits to anyone
who wasn't here, couldn't prove their hair legally.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
That makes a lot of sense, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, is not any sane country would do that. So naturally,
you know, many, many millions of people voted passed overwhelming.
So what happened in a democracy that Okay, it's law
in the Constitution of republic, it should still be. But
with whatever we have under the power of judicial review,
it goes right to an unelected federal judge. And these
federal judges, it doesn't matter who appoints him. Trump is
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appointed someone that go against them too, not almost none
of them are any good. They all instinctively go against
whatever's in the interests of the people. And so what
do they do there? The guys throw it out? So
what was the point of having referendum, got other referendums
to legalize marijuana and things like that. Judges are thrown out,
so there's no way around it. And that's what you're
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seeing now in America is a battle between the two
branches of the government that have power because Trump is
becoming an imperial president, as most presidents have been since Lincoln,
most of them have been. And like Rosevel, that's the
r they talk about Trump's executive orders. Roosevelt transformed the government,
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I mean tons and tons of executive orders, breading all
these alphabet agencies that had no you know, place under
the Constitution. And people think of him as a great hero.
But so whatever Trump is trying to do, he's not
being allowed to because like when he wanted to, he did.
That's why I said when he started at this time,
I said, well he's great, he's listening to me. So
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I said, before you do what you didn't do the
first time. So, you know, he signed a lot of
executed orders which are very good at debanning birthright citizenship,
which is really stupid. It's not in the constitution. It
makes no sense, and that would sall. But what happened
federal judges already said nonconstitutional, which and they're going to
do that about anything he does. That's good. So he's trying.
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If he was sincere, he would be. And then what
happens because we have a third branch in the government,
the legislative branch, which should be the most receptive to
the will of the people, because we can theoretically overturn
turn over one part of that House anyhow every two years,
the House representatives, so we never do because we re
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elect ninety six percent of them, which is a higher
rate of return to office than the Russian Polyppeer ahead
of the Soviet Union. So people want to be American
should be ashamed of that. But they don't even know.
They don't know anything. So when what's happening now with
the battle between Trump and various federals made the same
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court Congress office is sitting on its hands. They do
that all the time. They haven't And look at all
the foreign escapades we've been in since World War Two,
and the last time they declared war, which is their
role under the Constitution, was warwars. They just sit down
and let prison bomb countries, occupy countries, commit huge numbers
of troops like they did in Korea and Vietnam for
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protracted wars and they never declared war, and so they
have abrogated their responsibility. So you have one really weak sister,
one really weak branch of those three branches in the
legislative and that's the problem. So Trump, theoretically, by having
both houses of Congress, he's got the Senate in the House,
Republican leadership should be able to get something done. But
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he knows he can't because first of all, there's only
a handful of real MAGA type republics there and most
of them are still I knows, and they're going to
disagree with what They're not going to go Thei're going
to vote against him. He knows that, I sus fact,
and so he's trying to govern by executive order. I
don't think you can never him exactly. FDR did, but
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you know FCR, FDR also had you know, a press
that was really friendly to him largely, and we were,
you know, we were in desperate circumstances in the Great Depression,
so he had a lot more opportunity. But Trump is
obviously doesn't have a friendly press, and yeah, I don't
I have to.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I think Fox and Fox is very friendly towards him,
after all, murdochlands Fox and Murder. Yes, you know, Murdocks
in the office with him more times than enough.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He does have Fox. Yes, Fox is, but but I
suspect Fox wouldn't be friendly with him if if some
of it is more radical, like for instance, you know,
he's all he's proposed a lot of great things to taxes.
He discussed on not having tax, no income tax at
all for people making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year. I don't think Fox News would like that.
And and he's even talked about abolishing the up tax
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all together and getting rid of the IRS, which would
be even better. But you know, he says these things,
then you never hear about him again.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
He never does you like that, he's he's got great idea.
I agree with you one hundred percent. However, for example,
you know, he talks a good talk, but he keeps
changing his mind. Tariffs one day of one hundred and
forty five percent, and then the next day, well, we're
working on a deal with China. China says, no, we're
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not where nobody's talking to us. And then you've got
questionable actions. Was there really an assassination attempt on his
life in Pennsylvania. We never hear about that anymore. There's
a lot of things that should still be in front
of us in the news, and it's gone. It's forgotten.
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No Oh, wait a minute, it's like the old thing,
you know, squirrel. Oh, next idea, let's reopen Alcatraz, Squirrel,
Let's do something else. It's it's very hard for anybody
outside of the United States to look inside and say,
what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, exactly that again. I think that's part of where
I say I don't. I can't believe his personality is written.
I think it's scripted, because I mean, for instance, the
whole Canada annex and first of all, what sense does it?
Why is talking about Canada? That's that was never part
of his campaign?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
All right? Stand by, my friend, stand by. I hate
to do this too, but I really appreciate you coming
on and talking about these issues, and I wish you
much success. Ex O Nation. Donald Jeffries is our guest,
and Donald and I will be back on the other
side of this break. And if you'd like to find
out more about Donald, visit Donald Jeffries at substack dot com.
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Explanation. That is DJ and it's called Heaven nine to eleven.
It's a nine to eleven tribute. Donald Jeffries is our
special guest this hour Explanation www dot Donald Jeffries dot
substack dot com. We were talking about President Trump and
his statements about Canada the fifty first state. I personally
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believe that he just didn't like the Prime Minister at
the time, and you know it could have been said
in a joke. He saw the reaction of the Prime
Minister and said, hmmm, I can have some fun here,
but it went way too far. It's affecting his the
country's tourism, it's affecting how Canadians feel about Americans. It's
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hurting trade not only now with the Canada Mexico, but worldwide.
Doesn't he realize that in yeah, well wait a secon
hold on. If he's an actor, he's just sticking to
the script. I would love to know who who wrote
the script.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, I think that the same people that you know.
That's the question is who's really behind everything? And everybody
has their little favorite. They like to say that somebody
clearly is I mean somebody you know is I use
this line all the time. Jim Forrestall James Forstall was
a Harry Truman Secretary of Defense and he was also
a very early and very passionate critic of israel. I
(30:26):
said this is really stupid. You can't you can't do that.
And somebody pushed him out of the window to those
naval hospital and they claimed to kill himself. But you know,
the high ranking official to die that way. And one
of his good friends was Joe McCarthy in my work,
especially American Memory All, I've done everything I could to
restore McCarthy's reputation and treated terribly ms fairly by his historians.
I think he was a hero. But Forrestall told McCarthy
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one time, he said, you know, McCarthy, if there wasn't
this giant conspiracy, once in a while, they'd make a
mistake in our favor. And I use that line all
the time. There's nothing, you know, there's nothing end them
about any of this. Whereas as FDR said, you know,
nothing happened by accident in politics, it was. It happens
even to bet it was planned that way. So I
don't I don't know who's when. And I in my
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book Hidden History and Crimes and cover Ups in American
Politics seventy seventy sixty nineteen sixty three, another book, I
have tons and tons of quotes from world leaders going
way back to Benjamin Disraelian in England and all the
way up to even people like Bill Clinton. It's all
the same thing that you know their power behind the
scenes that are really running things. I don't even know
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if they know for sure who it is, so that
somebody's manipulating things somebody is and they know, like when
it comes time for something like the Epstein files, if
they were, they all seem to know, well, okay, you
know we're going to hesitate on this. Well why do
you have to state with this? Something is something, there's
something hovering above that is making your hestate. Just just
(31:55):
like we saw Virginia Jeffree, you know, very courteous women
who died. They claimed she killed herself, which is ridiculous.
I wrote a long article and substack event recently, and
but you know, the public kind of winks and just
says they did with Epstein. You know, I think, I think,
I don't think there's a person in America that Epstein
killed himself except the people that officially investigated it. They
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concluded he did the same thing here is that people
everybody knows that Virginia Jeffrey was knocked off. She said
she would never kill herself. So there's somebody there. And
that's the gist of what I write about all the time.
I randomness, and it gets into I think I look
at this as a spiritual battle. I think that we're
preachers of God and I think we're engaged in a
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spiritual battle. And the people that are opponents want you
to believe that you're nothing but a random, tiny speck
in an endless universe and they can barely see you
on a you know, and I'll put you like you
are here and you you can't what what do you know?
To try to, you know, emphasize how irrelevant you are.
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You know, look at all this giant world universe out there,
and you're just a nothing. And I think it's to
minimize God and the fact that you were You're a
special creature. It was created by a creator. And so
I think that what Forrestall said was very relevant. And
uh so I think when you look at something like
if you just analyze these things like Trump, he started
(33:23):
talking about Canada. Yeah, he may be trolling people because
he didn't like Trudeau, but it's at the very least.
You know, I have some friends in Canada. I do
a show with them a lot of times too, and
we had one after the recent election, and we talked
about how you know, Trump, or as I call him Trump,
and Stein was pretty much responsible for the guy you
got up there now. Probably was Probably it's because I
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think he unified Canadians. A lot of Canadians were able
to unify. Were all going to show Trump that's stupid. Trump.
We're not you know, we're not going to become a
fifty first states. Look at the surface of why would Trump,
why would he want Canada to be a state? Because
I mean, I know you're going there, but uh, I'm
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pretty sure if you remained one country and became a state,
I'm pretty sure it would be a blue state. I'm
pretty sure. But you would vote I would Liberals. So
I don't think if Trump is supposed to be on
the other side, why would you possibly want to do
that because you had to recalibrate the Electoral College votes
and Canada would probably get the most of anybody in
in California. So what would again, Nobody, nobody, you know,
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the people that worship Trump, that worship everything he does,
so nobody nobody says, well, you know, Trump, that makes
no sense. Why would you know, Why would you want
to to incorporate a group of people who are probably
going to vote against you and your party all the time.
So I don't understand that. I don't understand it. Talking
about Greenland, I don't understand the Panama Canal, all that
(34:53):
came out of nowhere. Right before he was inaugurated. He
never talked about any of that stuff in the campaign,
and I think people sat there scratching their heads. But again,
the people that love Trump love everything he says because
it sets off it triggers people with TVs, and they
love seeing people with TVs get upset. And they don't
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care what Trump has said, doesn't matter how stupid it
is or anything. They don't even have to agree with it.
They just love, you know. And at this point, because
you know, we can't see him to get anything done
here for the benefit of the people, that may be
all that you know, we can hope for maybe is
to be entertained.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Let me ask you, do you think those two assassination
attempts that were one in mari A Lance and one
in Florida on the golf course, and the most notable one,
what's the one in Pennsylvania. Do you think that they
were legitimate assassination attempts or were they staged?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Well, there's certainly a lot of questions. I don't think
there's I don't too much to question about the one
in the golf course. It really never got to that
stage and itways basically similar. But the one in Butler Pennsyvana.
That was And again it shows you the power of
GDS because that after it happened or whatever happened, a
(36:07):
friend of mine, yet real liberal who's never agreed with
he thinks I'm completely nuts, like a lot of people do.
And he, you know, he hates all, certainly hates Trump.
He's a diehard Democrat. He texts me and says, well,
I hope you're going to talk about this fake assassination.
And then I and I said, wow, I think I
texted back. Finally you found something you thought was fake,
(36:27):
and you saw Joy Reid, Keith Olberman. These are the
people that want to prosecute somebody for questioning Sandy Hook
or Boston bombing or any of the school shootings. They
must throw me in jail for that. But they're doing
the exact same thing. So and then you had the
Trump people, of course saying that he was saying, my god,
and this was you know, you can't question and all that.
So it's it's interesting, how you know, But that's that's
(36:49):
the way both sides look at all these things. And
I think they're both worseless because they they have no
consistent principles there's a lot to question there, but I
don't I don't know this. Someone died, and I don't
want to you know, I don't want to say that
was fake or anything. But Trump's certainly his his his
ear healed very quickly. But the most important thing to
(37:13):
consider is that you had this guy walking around, the
alleged shooter, you know, with carrying a rifle, and you
had the witnesses learning police to him climbing up the
side of the building, and police still didn't do anything.
His Secret Service didn't do anything. After he was shot.
They propped him up with his front completely exposed, so
he could be shot again. You know, at the very least.
(37:34):
You know, if I was conducting that, I'm not going
to say I think it was anything. I would say
we did have an investigation. What question the Secret Service
and show the pictures and saying, okay, what are you
doing here? Is this? Is this what your training tells
you to do when your target has been hit. Instead
of covering completely and escorting him quickly out of there,
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you push him up or allow himself to push up
and rise up with his fist pumping with front completely exposed.
Like Will R. By Oswald is that what you're trying
to do.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
A lot of there were a lot of similarities. There
were a lot of similarities between what happened in Pennsylvania
and the JFK assassination.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Right. Well, the main one is the you know, is
the complete standout of the Secret Service exactly. But you know,
this is this is the problem is you have million
millions of people believed the Trump assassination was staged. But
they might have believed that anyhow because again, they hate
Trump so much. They didn't want him to be this
hero that you know, the right wing media to him
(38:37):
as that he you know, persevered and jumped up triumphantly
and all that. So they weren't going to accept that regardless.
But the other side is they don't really want any
quite too many questions asked about it because there is
an element there that doesn't make much sense. You know,
the bullet, I mean, there's the picture of the bullet
(38:59):
that was that was caught in mid of air. I
don't know there has ever been a photograph of a
bullet caught and I didn't know you could do that.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, there is that technology of the are ultra
high speed cameras that can actually actually do that.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, so you have these things. And the guy that
took that picture is the exact same guy who took
the iconic photo of George W. Bush being whispered to
in his ear when he was reading the book of
My Pote Pet Goat on nine to eleven. So kind
of a wild coincidence that the same photography would take
two iconic photos like that, So it should be it
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should be investigated. To my knowledge, it's not been investigated
at all. I wrote a little bit about it to
the extent of whatever I can find, and I do
find it amazing that both alleged assassins happened to appear
in black Rock commercials when they were young. I don't
know what the odds of that are, but they've got
to be astronomical.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
They are, So.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
That's I think. Obviously there's a lot there to question.
But you know, people they're going to base it on
on their feelings about Trump, and if they hate Trump,
and the millions of people do, then they want to
believe this is a charade. You know, nobody would nobody
would shoot Trump because everybody that hates him is I
(40:17):
guess upstanding or something. And the people that love Trump
want to believe that he's this great hero and then
he survived, you know, to assassinates tw assassinations.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
All right, Don please stand by you and I have
to take our final break for this hour. A lot
of questions that have gone unanswered, a lot of geopolitical
upset in the world. The stock market doesn't know which
way to go up or down. Will we ever find
out who is behind the play called the White House
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the West Wing Version two point zero? We can only
hope If you'd like to find out more about Don Jeffries,
visit his sub stack at www dot Donald Jeffries dot
substack dot com and we'll be back as we wrap
(41:09):
up this hour here in the X Zone with here's
truly Rob McConnell my special guest, Donald Jeffries, as we
consider just trying to make sense of what is going
on in this world. And here's a very very interesting fact.
UFO sightings over the last month are down seventy two
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the X Zone.
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Speaker 6 (42:45):
Welcome back everyone. Don Jeffries is our special guest this
hour a w W W w W dot Donald Jeffries
dot substack dot com. As I was saying to you
off air, thanks so much for coming on the show.
It's it's great. It's great having you with us to
present another side to this dog and pony show that
(43:07):
we call trump Ism. So thanks very much, Don, and
you have an open invitation anytime you'd like to come on.
Just let us know. We'll make sure it happens.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Pleasure.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
One question before we get on us, I would like
to talk to you about the Kennedy papers that were released.
Who do you think will what do you think will
happen during the mid term elections?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Oh that's a good question. What will happen in the
midterm elections? I mean and typically the part out of
power gain seats that didn't happen under Biden in his
term elections. I suspect it will, but I don't know.
You know, there's a lot Trump has I think increased
the support. So it depends on you how much he's uh,
(43:53):
he's able to accomplish, and you know, I don't know what,
if anything he heal they will let him accomplish, or
what he really want wants to accomplish. So I think
that you know, at this point that our country is
just more divided than we've ever been, way more aheaded
than we were in the Civil War. And it's pretty
much split down the middle. It's very close.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Do you think that I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
No, And I said, it's all based on Trump too.
He's the lightning rod. He is the.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Divider in your opinion? Are is the United States of
America heading for a constitutional crisis?
Speaker 3 (44:28):
For what crisis?
Speaker 6 (44:30):
A constitutional crisis?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Well, you know, it's it's ironic, you know, because the
left is talking about Trump and the Constitution, and I
think there's very little evidence that today's left, you know,
supports the Constitution or wants it. They certainly would like
to scrap the Bill of Rights. Wait, no, they don't
believe in that. Trump to what degree Trump will lives
in it? I don't know either, you know, because he
(44:54):
is he's a big free speech supporter unless it's Israel
and he wants to you know, they just had some
legislation were able to quash just in time. That could
have somebody could have gotten up to it twenty years
in jail, wow, for criticizing you know, Israel and college campuses.
So this is a problem we have. You know, for
somebody like me, I'm a free speech purist, there's there's
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really nowhere to go. I mean, the Republicans generally are
better on free speech because the Democrats want to censor
you on all host of anything, all woke subjects. But
the Republicans are really really awful with the Zionism stuff.
They're just completely betrothed to it.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Besides the deep pockets of Elon Musk, do you think
there's anything behind the scenes that could shed some light
on what the role of Elon Musk really is.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Well, yeah, Elon Musk is another enigma because he's you know,
certainly and I get mistaken again just everything he's done
since he suddenly talked up freedom of speech, I've generally supported.
But I know his history. I know he's at the
very least, he's incredibly weird. I know his mother was.
I think he's practicing, which maybe I don't know. And
(46:08):
you know Musk, you know he dressed up his bath
inet wearing an upside down cross, and you know, there's
pictures at him.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
So I don't and don't forget his mother was Canadian.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Right, so I don't. I don't know, you know, if
he's our greatest African American or not. Everybody, but he's uh,
you know, it's it's hard to All I can do
is judge by what he's done. But I'm also aware
that he is he has gotten paid. Lots of his
companies have received lucrative largs themselves, so he really should
(46:43):
he was when he was working on doatch, he should
have set an example and and gotten rid of anything
that he was he was receiving from the government. But
generally speaking, you know, again as an all leftist, I
applaud transparency and I think sometimes the best disintection. So
I thought it was great what they were doing, and
I thought, you know, we're getting the apoplectic about it
(47:04):
and just not and refusing to believe the government was was.
I mean, I've argued with people that were former friends,
you know, you know, so you really this is a
surprise to you. So you think the government isn't corrupt?
Do you think that this fraud isn't going on? Why
does it surprise you? But so but Musk himself, I
don't know. So, I mean, right before the Doge thing,
(47:25):
I was very critical of him because he he you know,
he threw a hissy fit over the h one B
visa work and so did evk Ronles Swami and vik
errolis Wami. I liked a lot, and I'm you know,
I had a vested interest because when he was interviewed
by Alex Jones, my son and I noticed he was
sitting in front of a bookshelf and in the back
of the bookshelf, my book Hidden History is on the bookshelf. Fascinating,
(47:48):
So I thought, wow, I said wow. But vig So,
I said, how do I'm not going to like that guy?
He said a lot of good things. But but as
soon as he him and Elon did this double team
where they just went out nuts about you know, the
vag vegs disappeared. Now you know, he basically attacked American
workers and said, you know, our culture was bad, which
(48:08):
it is, but not for the reasons he said necessarily.
But he, you know, said how much we need these
visa workers? And so did yell Musk, and I thought
you know, this is this is this is not what
Magus supports. But again, Trump has always straddled the line
with visa workers. He talked about the first term, it
gets some great stuff about getting rid of them, ending it.
(48:30):
He never ended it. He hired more visa workers than
ever for his own resorts and everything. So this is
the problem. So Musk, I love what he said about
in free speech and my shadow band, because I'm shadow
band everywhere. My shadow band has eased up some since
you must cookover, it's not as bad I do. I
can get followers now, so following me at Don Jeffery's
(48:52):
on X. But but and they don't do what they
used to do, where I'd suddenly use lose a thousand
followers one day, or Pete would tell me I followed
you like eight times, and it keeps, they keep unfollowing me.
So that's the way these shadow man's work. But Musk
is generally get better in that regard. I don't know
if he's just upset about all the attacks on Tesla
and that's why he's kind of backing off any quicker
(49:14):
than he thought. I don't know what the future doge
is either. So basically the constitutional crisis. I think could
if you call it a constitutional crisis, I think that
would have happened or could have happened if Trump tries
to get any of these big ideas of his past,
assuming that he believes in any him enough to do it,
and that would be like abolishing the I R S
(49:35):
or some ending income taxes, or doing something like, you know,
really prosecuting people for the fraud that you're saying. If
he audited the Federal Reserve or something and we saw
all the you know, obvious stuff that must be there,
or even the Pentagon he talked about all the pagany
these things are done. Yeah, that's going to be a
(49:55):
constitutional crisis because you saw what happened with the USAID
where just that I mean people went nuts here and
I remember, you know, telling people on social media because
they were just weeping and going crazy over these poor
government workers. And I said, look, you know, you know
how many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Americans
in private industry have been outsourced and laid off and
(50:18):
replaced by foreign visa workers and cheaper labor. And so
the CEOs could get you know, bigger year end bonuses
over the last in several decades, and I never heard anyone,
anyone in the country, you know, massive protests against that
and going crazy. This is terrible, not like you did
(50:38):
with the government workers. So and I think most of
us know that. I've known a lot of government workers,
and we understand that you could get rid of the
vast majority of government workers and no one would, you know,
nothing would change.
Speaker 6 (50:53):
Something. I've noticed, something I've noticed. I'm sorry, I didn't
mean to cut you off there, my friend. Something I've
noticed is that organizations like Black Lives Matter don't exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, well they well, I don't know they don't exist.
But you're again, I think these organizations, I think to
the for instance, most people don't know the Black Lives Matter.
I think it's seventy percent black, just you know, so
most most of them are not black. But the people
that that run these outfits, I think it's whether it's
George Soros or whoever they turn on. They turned these
(51:27):
things on off like a spicket. Because when you know,
the most incredible thing about Trump's second coming, the second election,
is that there's been almost there been almost no protests
in the streets like they were the first time. I thought,
you know, going nuts.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
Oh wait a minute, we're getting media reports and reports
from different organizations, grassroot organizations that there are protests right
across the United States. Uh well, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yes, you do have them. More recently you've had you've
had some, but you've had something. But I'm talking about
when he first got in, like the last time, when
he got in, they you had the pussy hat down
in the streets instantly, not my president. So this took
a couple of months, and then you do have the
protests and they're yeah, they're it's yeah, they're definitely a
lot of them are paid and stuff. And you have
(52:15):
people from the right that infiltrate him, and a lot
of also are They get grouped together with the anti
England protester, the people that want to you know, fire
bomb teslas and stuff. So there's again, those are all
people with TVs. They don't even know why they're there.
They can't articulate, you know, what they hate. They do
Trump's personality, which is the at the heart of TVs.
(52:36):
They can't quantify with the hand by the guy. But
in terms of whether I mean they they they speak
in platitudes like you know, Trump piece he's trampling on
the Constitution. He's a dictator all this stuff, and I
can't he's he's really I don't know what he's done
in terms of trampling the Constitution. And he certainly We've
(52:58):
had every constant going back to I mean everybody president
went back to Abraham Lincoln. Most of them have done
things to circumvented the Constitution, and certainly Roosevelt did in
any times. And we had, you know, our recent presidents
as well. I mean just that, you know, when you
had things like I give you know, examples like Bill Clinton,
(53:19):
you know, killing all those women and children and American
citizens at Waco.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Yes, that was awful.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Armored tanks and using a poison using poisonous gas. It
was banned for usage in warfare under the Gim Convention.
If that wasn't a peachable offense, I don't know what
it is. And you had Obama Obama and killed a
wedding party in Yemen. He also bombed and he also
droned an American citizens and had not been even charge
of the crime. And they killed his sixteen year old
(53:47):
son for good measurement.
Speaker 6 (53:48):
Brag debat don I hate to do this, but I've
got one minute left before I have to say along
to you again. Thank you so much for coming on
the show. Deeply appreciate it. I have to get you
back on because I wanted to talk to you about
the JFK assassination. I want to get into depth on
the Oaklist City bombing, and I wanted to know your
(54:08):
take on the the slew of JFK documents that had
been released. So if you, if you would, if you
would be able to well, get my producer to send
you some dates, get you back on, and once again,
thanks for everything and continued success, because in my opinion,
we need people like you who actually check into things
(54:32):
and who are not afraid to go against the administration
like so many members of the media are. So thank
you so much for joining us. Take care of yourself,
and I look forward to the next time you and
I meet here in the exon. Okay, Thanks, thank you, sir,
x O nation. Donald Jeffries joined us this hour and
shared shared with us a lot of information. It gave
(54:55):
us a different side of the coin to look at.
Don's work has been challenged, but he comes up with
facts and an alternative way of looking at it, especially
for people who have been able to sit down and
drink a lot of the lemonade or the kool aid
(55:16):
that President Trump likes to doil out in his dog
and pony shows once again. His website is Donald Jeffries
dot substack dot com. I'll be back on the other
side of this break as the X Zone continues with
our number two from our broadcast center and studios in
Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada. I'm Rob McConnell. Don't go Away,
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Speaker 4 (56:07):
No nonswers something that wasn't true.