December 4, 2025 • 56 mins
onight on The ‘X’ Zone Radio Show, we welcome one of the most fascinating and influential couples in the field of human psychology and relationship transformation — Judith Sherven, PhD, and Jim Sniechowski, PhD. Together, Judith and Jim are pioneers in understanding the deeper emotional and psychological forces that shape how we love, how we connect, and how we truly belong. Through their groundbreaking books, workshops, and online programs, they’ve helped thousands around the world move past fear, self-doubt, and emotional barriers to create relationships rooted in authenticity, intimacy, and profound personal growth. From their signature teaching, “The Magic of Belonging,” to their insights on vulnerability, self-acceptance, and the unconscious fears that sabotage love, Judith and Jim bring a rare blend of clinical expertise, personal wisdom, and deep compassion. Their website is JudithandJim.com — and tonight, we’re diving into the heart of what it means to love, to be loved, and to become fully at home in who we are.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-x-zone-radio-tv-show--1078348/support.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
We are proud to announce the we have launched TWATNews.com, launched in August 2025.
TWATNews.com is an independent online news platform dedicated to uncovering the truth about Donald Trump and his ongoing influence in politics, business, and society. Unlike mainstream outlets that often sanitize, soften, or ignore stories that challenge Trump and his allies, TWATNews digs deeper to deliver hard-hitting articles, investigative features, and sharp commentary that mainstream media won’t touch
.
These are stories and articles that you will not read anywhere else.Our mission is simple: to expose corruption, lies, and authoritarian tendencies while giving voice to the perspectives and evidence that are often marginalized or buried by corporate-controlled media
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-x-zone-radio-tv-show--1078348/support.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
We are proud to announce the we have launched TWATNews.com, launched in August 2025.
TWATNews.com is an independent online news platform dedicated to uncovering the truth about Donald Trump and his ongoing influence in politics, business, and society. Unlike mainstream outlets that often sanitize, soften, or ignore stories that challenge Trump and his allies, TWATNews digs deeper to deliver hard-hitting articles, investigative features, and sharp commentary that mainstream media won’t touch
.
These are stories and articles that you will not read anywhere else.Our mission is simple: to expose corruption, lies, and authoritarian tendencies while giving voice to the perspectives and evidence that are often marginalized or buried by corporate-controlled media
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
All, hnry, Welcome to the X Zone, a place where
fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now here's your host, Rob McConnell.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
In a world where shadows dance and dreams take flight
through the veil of reality into the night. Raw McConnell
leads the way. A beacon so bright with over thirty
five years, he ignites the light, a voice from the north,
where whispers are old stories untold in the echoes of
(00:55):
old that needs.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Fiction in this realm of delight, in the zone sooner
there to be seen where the line been imposers with reason,
(01:23):
the unknown God.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, good evening, one and all, and welcome back to
the X And I am Rob McConnell, and for the
next two hours, i'm your host and your guide. Us
Together we will cross the time space continuum to this
place that I call the X xone. It's a place
for people dear to believe and dear to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And the X Zone comes to you Monday through Friday
(01:49):
right here on the X Zone Broadcast Network, talk Star
Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network, Tuber, and of course, on
your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty c F A j
A right here in St. Catharines, Ontario, on Lake Street,
just in front of the beautiful Montebello Park, and they
stream us around the world, a classic twelve twenty do CA.
(02:13):
By the way, Christmas is just around the corner. And
as I always say, if you're coming down to Niagara,
or if you're looking for something to do this weekend,
the weather's not supposed to be that bad, but it's
snowed down here in Niagara today. And I was talking
to a couple of friends of mine who were at
the in Niagara Falls, and they were driving past the
(02:36):
Festival of Lights, and the snow just adds to the
Christmas ambiance. And if you'd love to bring your children
down to see the wonderful Christmas displays put on by
the Niagara Parks Commission and the City of Niagara Falls,
come on down, just take the QEW, follow the signs,
and I guarantee you you'll have a great time. And
(02:57):
we love people here in Niagara. It's that easy. Well tonight,
I have two friends that we're supposed to be on
the show with me, but one friend apparently was called
off on business and we're welcoming one of the most
fascinating and influential couples in the field of human psychology
(03:19):
and relationship transformation, doctor Judah Chevrin and Jim Sniakowski. And
it's Jim who's not going to be with us tonight
because of this late, late call that he received. So
I know Jim's a very studious professional and he will
only not be here unless it was an emergency. So Jim,
where you are, We're thinking of you together. Judith and
(03:41):
Jim are pioneers and understanding the deeper emotional and psychological
forces that shape how we love, how we connect, and
how we truly belong. Through their ground baking books, workshops
and online programs, they've helped thousands around the world move
past their fears, self doubt, and emotional barriers to create
(04:02):
relationships rooted in authenticity, intimacy, and profound personal growth. From
their signature teaching the Magic of Belonging to their insights
on vulnerability, self acceptance, and the unconscious fears that sabotage
love and relationships, Judith and Jim bring a rare blend
(04:22):
of clinical expertise, personal wisdom, and deep compassion. Their website
is Judith and Jim dot Com and tonight we're diving
into the heart of what it is and what it
means to be in love, to be loved, and to
become fully at home in Who we are joining me
now is doctor judush chevn and Judith. Welcome back to
(04:44):
the x own. I'm going to misbugging my good friend
Jim tonight.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, no doubt you'll get to bug Jim and Soonish.
Right now, he's, as you said, he's taking care of
something very important. But it's a pleasure to be with you, sir.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Always, it's all. It's always season. It certainly is Judith
for listeners meeting you for the very first time. Who
are who are Jim and Judith? And what brought the
two of you into the field of psychology and personal development?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, both of us before we ever met on our
blind dates. And I am wife number three, so there's
hope for everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh wait, wait a Sey, your wife number three? What
does he do?
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Burn?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What did he do burn? Wife number one? And two? Out?
He's an animal?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He divorced them? Okay, very simple, no kids, right divorce yep.
And I had never been married and I was forty three.
He was forty five and we've been married thirty eight years.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
God bless you both, Yes, bless.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You everyone watching listening. There is hope. Please do not
give up. If you're single, if you're divorced, whatever, keep looking.
The magic is out there.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It certainly is, and I can attest to that with
my good wife Laura. We have six children, fifteen grandchildren
and four great grandchildren.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Now, so how years have you been married?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh God, let's see. Let's see. Amy is nearly fifty,
So nearly fifty years.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Wow, But you see, I discovered the two words that
a man can say that will save any marriage, two
simple words. All you have to say is yes, dear,
I don't know that. I know you wouldn't. That's just
(07:05):
a little joke. Laura and I have. Plus. She says, Robbie,
when a you're going to retire? And I say, honey,
when are you going to stop my you know, spending money,
you know, one fees of the other. Oh my parents,
God bless them. Before my mom passed away, they were
married for nearly seventy two years. Whoav Bravo was right?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, so in today's society, correct me if I'm wrong, Judith,
it seems that love and marriage are disposable. People think, well,
if this doesn't work, you know, we'll just go on
to the next one. Nobody, it seems that nobody really, No,
I shouldn't say nobody, but most of the people really
(07:49):
don't understand what love is and how important working on
a relationship is, and communication is the key. In my opinion,
I think.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
You're absolutely right. And I think because people don't get
training in how to date successfully and sincerely, and they
certainly don't get training in how to be married successfully
and just what you're talking about of communicating, and people
ask us, will have the two of you ever had
(08:23):
a fight? But well, of course, of course, why you know,
why would you want to be married to somebody that
you haven't ever had a fight with. So we would
encourage people to really understand that when you are dating
and you're becoming serious with somebody, it's absolutely important that
(08:47):
you tell the truth. Yes, we've had so many people
come up to us, either at workshops or whatever about
our books and say, you've saved me. We were starting
to argue and fight and I thought it was time
to break up, and instead I read your book, and
I read your book of the new intimacy, and I realized,
(09:12):
oh my goodness, we're just getting deeper into our love.
And of course we have to argue, and of course
we have to fight.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Now. I'd just like to interject something here. When you
and I are talking about fighting, we're not talking about
physical altercations. No, we're talking. We're talking. We're talking about
the verbal And what I see is when when two
people fight, it's that there's a breakdown in the communication.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And there's a misunderstanding of each person's point.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Of view right exactly, And.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So you need to clarify where you're coming from. And
once in a while you just need to blow off steam. Yeah,
you know, our favorite favorite fight was way early on
and we were yelling and an obscenity, I must admit,
(10:08):
at each other and across the building. We didn't even
know this person who yelled. Would the two of you
shut that up? We thought it was so funny. We
laughed and laughed until we ended up on the floor, laughing,
holding each other, just being hysterical.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Isn't that wonderful?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Isn't that fun?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It is? Yeah, that truly is what we do here
at home is I work late, As you well know,
By the time I get home, it's usually two three
o'clock in the morning, and I'm an early riser. I'm
back at the officer at the home office said about
six or seven in the morning. When Laura gets up,
(10:52):
I leave what I'm doing, I make her a cup
of coffee and we both sit down and talk. We
plan our day, We discuss anything that we need to discuss.
And we've been doing this for a number of years
now and it works.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
And it's intimacy. Yes, so many people think that's just
busybody business, you know, just talking about what you're going
to be doing, and it's boring. Why would you bother
to do that? No, no, no, no, you are making
that deep connection with each other every day. Today, earlier,
(11:39):
much earlier, Jim and I made chicken soup together and
we talk through the chopping and the are you you know,
shall we try a little bit more of this? Shall
we try a little bit more of that. It's a
kind of intimacy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And that's what chicken soup, and that's what it's all about.
I hear you, you hear me. Together, we hear each.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Other exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
By the way, when you do chicken soup. Do you
boil the whole chicken first?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
We use chicken legs only.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Ah. Oh well, I use the whole, the whole thing.
And then what I do is I take the meat
off and I put the bones back in and the
white meat I use for you know, chicken pot pie
or chicken salad sandwiches. What the hell, this isn't a
cooking show. See what you do to me?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Woman?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Listen, you and I have to take our first break. Judith,
please don't buy. Thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Almost great pleasure to seeing you. And give my best
to Gym when you see him for me and I'll
stay right here, all right. An explanation. If you'd like
to find out more about these two wonderful people, please
visit their website Judith and Jim dot com. I'm Rob Condell.
This is the XON or maybe we should open a
(13:02):
cooking show, because damn it, now I'm hungry. You're listening
to us on the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network,
XON Broadcast Network, and of course, on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty CFAJAM right here in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada,
streaming US on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
(13:26):
Judith and I will be back to Whatever you do,
don't go away.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
In a world where shadows dance and dreams take flight
through the veil of reality into the night. Rob McConnell
leads the way. A beacon so bright with over thirty
five years, he ignites the light, a voice from the north,
where whispers are bold, stories on.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
The snow falls down, the candles glow, there's peace and hearts.
The world should know the stranger's smiles, A child believed
(14:28):
love wraps softly lie. Christmas Eve, we all open, do
we land together? We learn to all understand.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
All friends call, and great is mad.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
For Christmas turns ons again. E on Christmas, kindness flowed
lines on every.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Tree and welcome back to once again. That is Christmas,
if every day were Christmas. That's from our brand new
album that is available on Amazon dot Com and Amazon
dot ca. A I guess this our Judith Chevron. Jim
Met Sneakowski was supposed to be with us, but he
(15:35):
was called away on urgent personal business. And you and
I were talking about cooking, and I said, this isn't
a cooking show.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And then during the commercial break, I got to thinking
about all the great times my wife and I have
had cooking over the years. So maybe we should do
a cooking show one day, you and I and bring
on special recipes that would bring people together. You, Jim
and I doing this together all right, I think accidentally, very.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Special recipes that are simple and easy that we'll be
glad to share.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, this is this is a great idea. Thank you
for see we brought this idea up talking about chicken soup. Jude,
if you talk about what was that phrase that I
wanted to oh, the magic of belonging? What does that
phrase mean? At its core?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
At its core, we are not alone. Now, I understand
that some people feel very much alone, and they really
are not feeling a belonging.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
With anybody, especially at this time of year exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But so many people discount the belongingness with friends. They
may not have a lover, they may not have a spouse,
but they have friends. And there is a belonging with
their friends if they will please pay attention to it.
(17:12):
And and Rob, there is a belonging with even strangers.
When magic happens, and I want to share with you
and everyone that just recently we went to Costco. I
don't know if you have.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
A Costco there, I will be sure doing. My wife
and I are proud owners of the Executive cards there
you go.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
So Jim had been having trouble with one of his legs.
It was just it was just, you know, funny. And
so as we left the left with having made our purchases,
I was out in front on our way to the car,
and Jim was behind me pushing them the car. And
(18:00):
when I looked back, I thought, oh, my goodness, something happened.
Jim's leg muscle must have given out. Here were two
young men holding him under each arm, and an older
gentleman pushing our carts following me, and it was magical,
(18:22):
and there was a belonging between all of us. And
there was a woman that was part of their crew,
and she was on the sideline smiling at me and
you know, indicating that everything is okay, but Jim just
needs support right now, I know. And they got to
(18:44):
our car and I thanked them profusely, of course, and
there was this deep sense of magical belonging with them.
They had saved the day, and they were right there
right there immediately so is Jim's leg gave out and
he when we got home, he said, I don't know
(19:05):
what happened. He said, I'm fine, he's walking around just fine,
but that muscle just gave out and they were right behind,
ready to grab him. And I you know your show
tends to be a little esoteric from time to time, Yes,
and so I wanted to give this example of every
(19:27):
day magic, every day belonging with strangers that we'll never
see again. But they were right there. And how often
are you in a parking lot and there's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Nobody around more times than left? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Often often, but no, there, these gentlemen were right behind
Jim and ready to catch him as he went down.
It was a magical sense of belonging, a.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Fast, fantastic story, you know. And I noticed throughout my
life that around Christmas time there is this wonderful magic
that is called the Christmas Spirit, where people smile more,
they dig deeper in their pockets to help those who
need help. They go into their pantries and they get
(20:21):
extra food that they say, well, we can afford to
give this away, or the clothes in the closet that
they giveaway, and you know what I wish that I
would be able to can that feeling. Yes, and when
people were upset, just open up a can of Christmas
(20:44):
spirit and the magic would happen and things would be okay.
But it takes it takes an effort on everybody's part
to make magic happen. Like if those kind people would
have ignored Jim, you know who knows right.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, exactly. And there are so many opportunities, as you
point out, that each of us can help support someone else. Back.
Our neighbor, who's a bit older than you are, was
(21:22):
up on his roof putting up the Christmas lights. He
was seated. He made sure he was seated so he
wouldn't fall. But I thought, I'm going to send him
some magic. I didn't use those words, but I was thinking,
I want to send a prayer over to Marty, make
(21:43):
sure that he's safe up there on his roof.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
The reason I'm shaking my head like that is because
it was about five years ago I was putting Christmas
tree lights up on our roof and I fell off
the roof. No, no, no, well, I broke my femur. No,
I shattered my femur, broke my pelvis wrecked up my back. Yeah,
(22:09):
and that was during COVID.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah, oh my god, I'm so no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, no, I just found it when you were saying, well,
he was up on the roof putting Christmas tree lights
sometimes like oh no, no, no, don't tell me he
fell to but you know, but you know what, I
discovered a few things with that fall. Number One, Sir
Isaac Newton was right, there is gravity. And number two,
(22:36):
it's not the fall that hurts. It's a sudden stop
now stop. Yeah, it was. It was a it was
a continuation of comical errors. Because we called the ambulance.
The nine one one on the ambulance bay was about
(22:56):
a quarter of a mile from my house. It took
them fifty four minutes to get to the place. Number two,
it took them over a half hour to figure how
to put me onto the stretcher. And then when we
got into the ambulance, the driver turned to me and
he said, excuse me, sir, do you know how to
get to the well in General Hospital? From here?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
How bizarre?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I know, I laughed, It just cracked me up.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Mind you.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
We got to the well in General Hospital and they
were very attentive. They were great doctors and they took
good care of me. So no, but things happened for
a reason. It gave me time to reflect when I
was in the hospital and then they put me into
a rehab center here in Saint Catharine's. It gave me
time to reflect on my life and I realized that
(23:46):
things happen in life for a reason. I truly believe that, yes,
we do have free will. We can deviate from the plan.
It's just like on a road map. You can go
from A to be on the main highway or from
A to be on the alternative route. And you know,
that gave me a lot of time to think. And
(24:09):
like I said, it was during COVID, things were just
going awry all over the place. People God bless them,
they lost their loved ones. And here I am fortunate
enough to have gone home in a couple of months,
but there were a lot of people who didn't go home.
(24:30):
And I believe in fate, I believe in destiny, I
believe in synchronicity, but I believe in the power of
the human spirit. And that was the most important lesson.
I learned that no matter what the problem is, out there.
We humans have the ability to solve it. If we
(24:54):
work on it, we can make it happen. The difference
between a dream and reality is just doing it. Dream
is the blueprint. Reality is getting all those little workers
in plate to make it happen. And that is so
important in my opinion, in a relationship. We have to
work at it, and you have.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
To work at your life, as you're saying. And one
of our more recent books is called Overcoming the Fear
of being Fabulous. Overcoming the Fear of being fabulous.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh wow, I love the tumble.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
For instance, how often when you pay somebody a compliment,
whether it's what a beautiful sweater, how lovely you look today,
or whatever it might be, and people say, oh, no,
big deal. They don't take it in, they don't receive
(25:58):
the compliment, and they don't thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I don't know I've had I've had the opposite happen.
I'll say, like today we were out shopping and no
I would talk to the salesguer and I said, well,
thank you so much for your help, and she said, I, sir,
thank you. And you know, just by saying Merry Christmas,
you put a big smile on somebody's face or opening
(26:24):
the door for somebody I don't know. I found it's
the opposite.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Well good, I'm glad that you have, but we see
all too often people shrugging off and they aren't owning
who they really are.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You and I have to take our break. My dear
friend Plea stand by always good seeing you ex oanation
if you'd like to find out more about my guest tonight.
Her partner in crime, unfortunately is not with her tonight.
Jim and Judith, I'm sorry, Judith and Jim dot com. Ladies.
First I see once again and it's Judith and Jim
dot Com and we'll be back on the other side
(27:04):
of the sharp break as we continue hearing the exce
one with yours truly Rob McConnell from our broadcast center
and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada. And you can
listen to us in your car, your home, wherever you are,
wherever you have an AM radio on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty CFAJ, and they also stream us online
at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It's the world no stranger, smile chan Believe love, Perhapsmtly
Christmas E We all can lose. We live together, weird
(27:53):
to ull to stay All friends call.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
Snowflakes falling on Terri Street, Downtown lights shine and soft down, sweet.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Voices laughing, Save bels Nick. It's the magic time of you.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
From port Dollhouse in a Miten's glove.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Families gather with water from hard school, this pee settler.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Theorld feels riding on this gent to Christstmas night.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
It's Christmas and Saint Canneries.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Where the well and waters clean children.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And welcome back to the explanation. Earlier today, Laura and
I were out about the town here in St. Cathar's.
We were on St. Paul Street and we have to
run into a new used store or they call thrift stores,
I guess. And we went in and we were talking
and well, Laura was shopping. I was talking to the
(29:35):
young lady that's there. Her name was Sonya, that she's
from Mel Salvador originally, and they have this thrift shop.
And I said to her, I said, what if it
gave you the inspiration to open a thrift shop? And
do you know what she said? It floored me, Judas.
She said, it's because I know there are people that
need help who cannot afford to buy brand new And
(30:00):
if we can help them and their families at this
time of need, then I'm a good Christian and I'm
a good person. Wow, people are out there. People do care.
And that's just one of the many stories that we're
(30:21):
going to be bringing our listeners and share with our
guests here until Christmas. In fact, I was talking to
our production staff today and wouldn'd be a great idea
to do that every day, let people know about the
good things in life instead of all the negativity we
hear on the news. Like, I can't remember a time, Judith,
when I was growing up where there was so much negativity,
(30:45):
so much hate, so many wars going on. I remember
waking up one morning when I was about twelve years
old and I heard that the war in that the
Israeli war had started, and it threw me like, what
do you mean a war? And now it's nothing, oh, Jaez,
(31:06):
President Trump's going to invade salve it or they double
tapped a bunch of survivors on a ship that they
already shot down. So what they do they just go
back and kill people and all this negative of the
war in Ukraine, how many people are dying there each
and every day. Right, how do I, judith, how do
(31:27):
we get to these people that they're getting it all wrong?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Isn't what a wonderful question? And I truly I have
no idea. I think about it similar to how you
were thinking about it. I don't know how to help
people change their perspective so that it is a peaceful planet.
It's a place where we all like to be here
(31:56):
and respect each other's differences instead of all of these,
as you say, all of these wars, and certainly at
our ages we have been through not ourselves involved in
these wars, but hearing about wars, watching wars on television
(32:18):
and now on our computers, and it seems to never
never change. And it's like, you know, our people at
their baseline, separate from a lot of other people so
malignant that they just can't help themselves but fight wars.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I don't know, you know, I can recall, just off
the top of my head, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam
War nine to eleven, the Afghanistan conflict, the Desert Storm.
Then you have all the shootings, the assassination of JFK,
(33:02):
the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, and I don't think anyone
needs to go through this in a lifetime. And I
understand that one group looks at it, well, you see, Rob,
that's because war makes money. But war also takes lives,
and to me, the life of a person is priceless.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Absolutely. But I think what we have to face is
what you just said, which is the corporations that are
making a fortune every time there's a war is driving
some of this problem. Yeah, and people are not as
important as these gigantic corporations that are making a fortune.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And when you have people who are in charge of
countries and are using their political positions for their gain
and the gain of their ally lies. I'll give you
an example. You've got Venezuela. President Trump is saying that
he's put the entire fleet in front of Venezuela because
(34:11):
of the Narco terrorists. But what he isn't saying is
that Venezuela has the most oil on the planet, and
he's got buddies in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East
who are giving him jets, giving him business to protect
(34:35):
their interest and their interests is the competition in Venezuela?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And also, come on, come on, exactly, why don't they
see it? Why don't they see it? What is like,
I'm just a radio guy, you know, and I look
at the world. Maybe I look at the world through
strange eyes because I love people, because I look at
(35:07):
you know, if you're not part of the solution, you're
part of the problem.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I don't think you have strange eyes. I think you
have eyes of love. And so many people do not
have eyes of love, particularly a lot of the people
that are these world leaders, so called leaders. They're not
looking with love, as you say, They're looking with who's
(35:37):
paying them these big fortunes, who is buying them off?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And what will give them more power?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Right right?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Exactly. I'm so it's very very sad.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
How can we help people on a personal level, on
a personal, day to day level. Find answers are a
big issue with most families. Most families, mom and dad
both work. The little ones I'm talking about, you know,
teenagers are left on their own. We go to a
restaurant for supper tonight and we're sitting down and at
(36:18):
the table across from us is a mom and dad
and four kids. Laura said, are you looking at what
they're doing? I said, no, I'm reading them in you
trying to figure out what I'm going to have for supper. Honey,
Why she said, Robbie, they're all using their iPhones instead
of talking to each other. Ah, what have we done?
(36:40):
What has technology done? Is it us who have allowed
ourselves to fall into the pit of well, you're not
that interesting, so I'm going to go on my iPhone
and find something else to chat about. Or is it
technology that actually wants us to do this Because the
more view certain things get, the more clicks they get,
(37:02):
the more clicks they get, the worm money they make.
And we'll break back into the same thing that we
were talking about a minute ago. It's all about money.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
And I think to some degree it is all about money.
And I think to some degree, a lot of families
have kids because they're supposed to, not because they want to,
and they really cherish these children and want to talk
with those children and want to get to know them
(37:30):
better all the time. I think so often people are
having kids because they're supposed to, and then it's easy
to just resort to using your iPhone at dinner instead
of talking. And I think also sometimes the younger generation
(37:53):
doesn't know how to trust their parents.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And who's fault and who's.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Fault is that? I would say, it's the parents fault.
Why aren't the parents welcoming the differentness of their children?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
When we were young, my brother and I we had
suffer with mom and dad every night, and this was
what I l in later years, would call up the
daily wrap up. Dad would tell us what happened at work.
Mom would tell us what happened at work. We would
tell Mom and Dad what happened at school, and then
we'd have a general conversation while we were having our supper.
(38:32):
We communicated. And this is why I guess I'm into communication,
because it was such a pivotal point in my life
and so important in my life that we communicate.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And how wonderful that your family dinners were all about communication? Yeah,
I would say the family I grew up and I
had a younger brother, I have a younger brother was
more about my father catering to my mom because he
cherished her, but neither of them particularly interested in my
(39:11):
brother or me. Nothing bad happened, nobody was being abusive,
but I think my brother and I both felt like, Okay,
it's up to us to take care of each other.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, thank you, and truly everybody you know listening, please
pay attention In terms of your family. Are you open
to learning about your kids, your nieces, nephews, grandchildren, whoever
it may be. Are you open to asking those questions
(39:52):
of what's going on at school these days? You know
you may not like the answer. You know, you may
be hearing that they're bored at school, or they have
a teacher they don't like, or whatever. That's life. Please
be interested.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
That is life and life it sometimes can be cruel
about you know. That's the fact. You can't fix a
problem if you don't know that the problem exists, right right,
And we all just need to work together to solve
the problems. And as Laurie used to tell our kids
when they were growing up, you have to learn to
face the monster in the closet.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Ah, how lovely.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, and you know she's a good mom, very good mom?
Is you? And I must take our final break, My
dear friend, please stand by exhnation. The one and only
doctor Judith Shevrin is our special guest and her hobby
Jim is usually with us, but unfortunately he's been called
away on personal business. We'll have him back on in
the near future, because I feel like the Three Amigos
(41:04):
when we're together, you know, three good old buddies. Stand
by Judith. We'll be right back and so we'll be
explanation as we continue right here in the X Zone
from our broadcast center and studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada.
And yes, you're still listening and watching us on the
X On Broadcast Network, Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network,
Tuber and listening to us near your car, your home,
(41:27):
your office, wherever you're wherever you have an AM radio
and you have it set to twelve twenty am because
that's Classic your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty CFAJAM right
here in St. Catherine streaming us on Classic twelve twenty dot.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
CA Family, Scatoil.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
School, lest.
Speaker 8 (41:55):
Fields Right on this Janz.
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Esus high on the tree through the soft candle, woln
Angel stands watch on the world down below, hurrying.
Speaker 10 (42:24):
Shine and gold, her heart full love, grace. She's seen
every joy in this ould sacred place. She's watched tiny
(42:44):
heads hanging silver bow.
Speaker 11 (42:49):
Her laughter stores the children wood tail from new left
to hold from Sez God.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
This Welcome back everyone. Judith Shreven is our special guest.
Doctor Judith Hirvin is our special guest. And first of all, judithh,
thank you so much for coming on the show tonight.
It's almost such a great pleasure having you here with us.
I would imagine that one of the biggest challenges that
you and Jim face in your professional life when dealing
(43:27):
with people is those people who have no self worth.
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Really, you're right, It certainly is certainly an issue, and
one of the ways that we deal with it is
to help them grow their self worth. And the reason
I mentioned the business of receiving compliments is these people
definitely just pass it off. They don't receive the compliment,
(44:00):
they don't take in the praise. Whether it's at work
or in their social life, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Is that because they don't feel they deserve it right
well there.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
And they've never learned to take in what is coming
to them of worth. They just pass it by. They
just pass it by, and so it doesn't land and
it doesn't go in and help them grow their self worth.
(44:33):
So receiving compliments is a huge issue. We've had a
number of people at the major places like LinkedIn or
credit Garma, places where we've been coaches say I deserve
I deserve a promotion, but my supervisor, my manager just
(44:56):
ignores me. Well, have you asked? Have you asked what
you need to do to deserve that promotion?
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
No, no, I would never do that. I would. Well,
how about if we make a deal with you. But
between now and the next time we talk, which may
be a week two weeks later, you go to your
manager and you say, what do I need to do
so that you will promote me to the next level?
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (45:29):
All right, all right, all right. And when they come back,
very often what they say is I was shocked. My
manager said, oh my goodness, thank you for bringing this up.
I've been thinking about you. I'm so busy, I don't
have time. Here's what you need to do. You need
to do these two steps or three, whatever it might be,
(45:54):
and then I will happily give you a promotion. You
certainly are going to deserve it. Thank you for raising
the issue with me. They are in shock because they've
never thought to ask.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Once again, they don't know they're self worth. But they're
also afraid of rejection.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
And yet with their manager, who often may have had
the position they're in six months, a year, a year
and a half, and they've had the same manager and
they've not been rejected, although as you're saying, they often
fear rejection, right, you know, if they ask for more,
(46:34):
what will come, what will happen? And yet how are
they going to find out? So really, for so many people,
it's taking one tiny little step. And really, when we
said when we wrote the book Overcoming the Fear of
being Fabulous, what we had in mind and we do
(46:57):
have in mind, is how people hold them selves back
from being more than they are right now, And it
was being fabulous.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I remember the first time I went in to see
a boss and I am still in high school at
the time, and I was working weekends in part time,
and I was there about six months, and I'm watching
everybody else, and you know, they're getting raises and they're
doing this and not the other. I figured, what the hell?
(47:29):
So I went in to see the lost and I said,
and I'll tell you the honest truth, I was afraid.
I was afraid, but I decided, hey, I'm worth more.
I work as hard. It's harder than some of these
other people. So I went in and I asked the boss.
His name was Bruno Lambert, and I said, mister Lambert,
(47:49):
I'd like a raise. He looked up and he said, okay,
Robbie got one. I went back to what he was
doing and I'm sorry, that's it.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
It was that easy.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, yes, and was asked.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
And yet Jim and I met on a blind date.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Oh, tell me about this. I love to hear these
love stories.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
And as I said, he was in the middle of
his divorce. Number two and I had never married, and
we were in our forties, and we realized both of
us had been professional actors earlier in our lives, and
we came up with the phrase the fear of being fabulous,
because we both agreed we had never gone to our
(48:33):
agents and said, do what you have to do to
get me a running part in a series, or do
what you have to do to make me a star.
In fact, after college, I went back to New York City,
I grew, I went to UCLA, and I went to
I went back to New York and did lots of
work and one of my managers, one of my agents there,
(48:55):
said I would like to manage your acting career. Rob
what I said was no, No, I need to go
back to Los Angeles and get married. Third, twenty two
years later, I meet Jim to get married. But it
(49:16):
never crossed my mind to be a star. It never
crossed my mind to make a career out of acting.
And yet here was this person saying, I'd like to
be your manager. And my answer was so fear of
being fabulously you know, dumb, No, I need to go
(49:37):
back to Los Angeles and get married because my parents
had raised me to get married and have kids.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Do you regret not taking that proposition from the agent?
Speaker 5 (49:51):
We Jim and I've talked a lot about all of
the ways that we regret not growing our careers as actors,
and yet we also come back to well what if
we hadn't met?
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Oh that Once again, I truly believe that destiny plays
a major part in our life. I'll give you another
example if you don't mind. There are so many times
over the years, I've been doing the show now for
thirty eight years, and there are times when I figure
that's it. I'm tired, you know, it's time to and
(50:27):
the powers to be kind of put enough roadblocks in
front of me that I can't. It's like, Okay, I
get the message, not yet, and then everything goes as
smooth as silk. So I really believe in destiny that
throughout my life I've been at the right place at
(50:48):
the right time, met the right people, like meeting you
and Jim for an example, doing what I've to do
because I'm a dreamer, I truly am. But I've always
believed that if I dream it, I can do it.
(51:11):
And John Lennon, I don't know if you remember that
in one of his songs, she said it was in
all you need is love. Anything I can do, you
can do, huh. You know? So I believe. I believe
that people can do what they want. They just need
to know that they can, and they need people like
(51:33):
you and Jim to help them if they don't realize
their self worth and how your help can make them
achieve whatever they want to achieve in life.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
Yes, absolutely, and to understand that how they were and
I'm going to use a very strong word but brainwat
and their families.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Oh, I've seen parents when I've been out say to
their child, oh, you'll never be anything. What a thing
to say to our child? What a thing to say
to anyone.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Know exactly, but parents say those kinds of things all
the time. And also they are role models. Jim and
I grew up in lower middle class families. My dad
sold used cars, he was a high school dropout to
support his family, and Jim's dad worked in Detroit and
(52:36):
the Ford Motor Company. So also our role models were
not of people that were making a lot of money
and you were super successful, and there was no big
encouragement for us to proceed further than we already were.
We were already far more successful than the parents that
(52:58):
we had, and they didn't help us either. So please,
everybody listening, encourage your kids to grow, grow.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Grow, absolutely, no matter what your financial status is in life,
no whether you're My dad was a presser where he
worked in the laundry industry. He was a presser. My
mom was a secretary. And yet they did everything in
their power to give my brother the love that they
(53:31):
gave us over the many years, and I grew to
understand that when it comes to who you are, it's
not the money you have in your pocket, it's the
love you have in your heart. Ah, So thank you
Mom and dad.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
Isn't that the truth?
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah? We've got about a minute left before I have
to say so long. What final message would you like
to leave with the audience tonight.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Please pay attention to all of the everyday magic that
happens in your life. Like the two guys that grabbed
my husband Jim under his arms out in the Costco
parking lot and helped get him into the car, and
the gentleman who took the cart and brought it to
(54:22):
the car. That was every day magic. Please notice everything
that happens to you that is every day magic.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
And this is the season of magic. So to you
and Jim, and to your family, your friends, and all
those hearts that you touch on a daily basis, to
you all, a very merry Christmas, happy holidays, and May
twenty twenty and May and May the year twenty twenty
(54:50):
six bring you love, light and happiness. That's it.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
That's it, and wonderful to be with you.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Take care of yourself. Please give my very best to Jim,
and I look forward to the next time we all
meet back here in the Xon. So until then, take
care of my friend. God bless x oonation that this
has been an hour that I fully enjoy talking to
Judith and Jim. Unfortunately, Jim was called away on business,
but he'll be with us next time, and I'll be
(55:22):
able to bug them some more. We'll think I usually
do so. Until then, along Judith and the x O Nation,
we'll be back on the other side of the sharp
break as we continue hearing the xone from our broadcast
center in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, and you're listening to
us on your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty c FAJAM
streaming us at Classic twelfth twenty dot CA.
Speaker 9 (55:46):
High on the tree through the South Candoglobe, n Angel Stazzle.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
Down below. Ring shot
All, hnry, Welcome to the X Zone, a place where
fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now here's your host, Rob McConnell.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
In a world where shadows dance and dreams take flight
through the veil of reality into the night. Raw McConnell
leads the way. A beacon so bright with over thirty
five years, he ignites the light, a voice from the north,
where whispers are old stories untold in the echoes of
(00:55):
old that needs.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Fiction in this realm of delight, in the zone sooner
there to be seen where the line been imposers with reason,
(01:23):
the unknown God.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, good evening, one and all, and welcome back to
the X And I am Rob McConnell, and for the
next two hours, i'm your host and your guide. Us
Together we will cross the time space continuum to this
place that I call the X xone. It's a place
for people dear to believe and dear to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And the X Zone comes to you Monday through Friday
(01:49):
right here on the X Zone Broadcast Network, talk Star
Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network, Tuber, and of course, on
your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty c F A j
A right here in St. Catharines, Ontario, on Lake Street,
just in front of the beautiful Montebello Park, and they
stream us around the world, a classic twelve twenty do CA.
(02:13):
By the way, Christmas is just around the corner. And
as I always say, if you're coming down to Niagara,
or if you're looking for something to do this weekend,
the weather's not supposed to be that bad, but it's
snowed down here in Niagara today. And I was talking
to a couple of friends of mine who were at
the in Niagara Falls, and they were driving past the
(02:36):
Festival of Lights, and the snow just adds to the
Christmas ambiance. And if you'd love to bring your children
down to see the wonderful Christmas displays put on by
the Niagara Parks Commission and the City of Niagara Falls,
come on down, just take the QEW, follow the signs,
and I guarantee you you'll have a great time. And
(02:57):
we love people here in Niagara. It's that easy. Well tonight,
I have two friends that we're supposed to be on
the show with me, but one friend apparently was called
off on business and we're welcoming one of the most
fascinating and influential couples in the field of human psychology
(03:19):
and relationship transformation, doctor Judah Chevrin and Jim Sniakowski. And
it's Jim who's not going to be with us tonight
because of this late, late call that he received. So
I know Jim's a very studious professional and he will
only not be here unless it was an emergency. So Jim,
where you are, We're thinking of you together. Judith and
(03:41):
Jim are pioneers and understanding the deeper emotional and psychological
forces that shape how we love, how we connect, and
how we truly belong. Through their ground baking books, workshops
and online programs, they've helped thousands around the world move
past their fears, self doubt, and emotional barriers to create
(04:02):
relationships rooted in authenticity, intimacy, and profound personal growth. From
their signature teaching the Magic of Belonging to their insights
on vulnerability, self acceptance, and the unconscious fears that sabotage
love and relationships, Judith and Jim bring a rare blend
(04:22):
of clinical expertise, personal wisdom, and deep compassion. Their website
is Judith and Jim dot Com and tonight we're diving
into the heart of what it is and what it
means to be in love, to be loved, and to
become fully at home in Who we are joining me
now is doctor judush chevn and Judith. Welcome back to
(04:44):
the x own. I'm going to misbugging my good friend
Jim tonight.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, no doubt you'll get to bug Jim and Soonish.
Right now, he's, as you said, he's taking care of
something very important. But it's a pleasure to be with you, sir.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Always, it's all. It's always season. It certainly is Judith
for listeners meeting you for the very first time. Who
are who are Jim and Judith? And what brought the
two of you into the field of psychology and personal development?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, both of us before we ever met on our
blind dates. And I am wife number three, so there's
hope for everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh wait, wait a Sey, your wife number three? What
does he do?
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Burn?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What did he do burn? Wife number one? And two? Out?
He's an animal?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He divorced them? Okay, very simple, no kids, right divorce yep.
And I had never been married and I was forty three.
He was forty five and we've been married thirty eight years.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
God bless you both, Yes, bless.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You everyone watching listening. There is hope. Please do not
give up. If you're single, if you're divorced, whatever, keep looking.
The magic is out there.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It certainly is, and I can attest to that with
my good wife Laura. We have six children, fifteen grandchildren
and four great grandchildren.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Now, so how years have you been married?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh God, let's see. Let's see. Amy is nearly fifty,
So nearly fifty years.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Wow, But you see, I discovered the two words that
a man can say that will save any marriage, two
simple words. All you have to say is yes, dear,
I don't know that. I know you wouldn't. That's just
(07:05):
a little joke. Laura and I have. Plus. She says, Robbie,
when a you're going to retire? And I say, honey,
when are you going to stop my you know, spending money,
you know, one fees of the other. Oh my parents,
God bless them. Before my mom passed away, they were
married for nearly seventy two years. Whoav Bravo was right?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, so in today's society, correct me if I'm wrong, Judith,
it seems that love and marriage are disposable. People think, well,
if this doesn't work, you know, we'll just go on
to the next one. Nobody, it seems that nobody really, No,
I shouldn't say nobody, but most of the people really
(07:49):
don't understand what love is and how important working on
a relationship is, and communication is the key. In my opinion,
I think.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
You're absolutely right. And I think because people don't get
training in how to date successfully and sincerely, and they
certainly don't get training in how to be married successfully
and just what you're talking about of communicating, and people
ask us, will have the two of you ever had
(08:23):
a fight? But well, of course, of course, why you know,
why would you want to be married to somebody that
you haven't ever had a fight with. So we would
encourage people to really understand that when you are dating
and you're becoming serious with somebody, it's absolutely important that
(08:47):
you tell the truth. Yes, we've had so many people
come up to us, either at workshops or whatever about
our books and say, you've saved me. We were starting
to argue and fight and I thought it was time
to break up, and instead I read your book, and
I read your book of the new intimacy, and I realized,
(09:12):
oh my goodness, we're just getting deeper into our love.
And of course we have to argue, and of course
we have to fight.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Now. I'd just like to interject something here. When you
and I are talking about fighting, we're not talking about
physical altercations. No, we're talking. We're talking. We're talking about
the verbal And what I see is when when two
people fight, it's that there's a breakdown in the communication.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And there's a misunderstanding of each person's point.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Of view right exactly, And.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So you need to clarify where you're coming from. And
once in a while you just need to blow off steam. Yeah,
you know, our favorite favorite fight was way early on
and we were yelling and an obscenity, I must admit,
(10:08):
at each other and across the building. We didn't even
know this person who yelled. Would the two of you
shut that up? We thought it was so funny. We
laughed and laughed until we ended up on the floor, laughing,
holding each other, just being hysterical.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Isn't that wonderful?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Isn't that fun?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It is? Yeah, that truly is what we do here
at home is I work late, As you well know,
By the time I get home, it's usually two three
o'clock in the morning, and I'm an early riser. I'm
back at the officer at the home office said about
six or seven in the morning. When Laura gets up,
(10:52):
I leave what I'm doing, I make her a cup
of coffee and we both sit down and talk. We
plan our day, We discuss anything that we need to discuss.
And we've been doing this for a number of years
now and it works.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
And it's intimacy. Yes, so many people think that's just
busybody business, you know, just talking about what you're going
to be doing, and it's boring. Why would you bother
to do that? No, no, no, no, you are making
that deep connection with each other every day. Today, earlier,
(11:39):
much earlier, Jim and I made chicken soup together and
we talk through the chopping and the are you you know,
shall we try a little bit more of this? Shall
we try a little bit more of that. It's a
kind of intimacy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And that's what chicken soup, and that's what it's all about.
I hear you, you hear me. Together, we hear each.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Other exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
By the way, when you do chicken soup. Do you
boil the whole chicken first?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
We use chicken legs only.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Ah. Oh well, I use the whole, the whole thing.
And then what I do is I take the meat
off and I put the bones back in and the
white meat I use for you know, chicken pot pie
or chicken salad sandwiches. What the hell, this isn't a
cooking show. See what you do to me?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Woman?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Listen, you and I have to take our first break. Judith,
please don't buy. Thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Almost great pleasure to seeing you. And give my best
to Gym when you see him for me and I'll
stay right here, all right. An explanation. If you'd like
to find out more about these two wonderful people, please
visit their website Judith and Jim dot com. I'm Rob Condell.
This is the XON or maybe we should open a
(13:02):
cooking show, because damn it, now I'm hungry. You're listening
to us on the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network,
XON Broadcast Network, and of course, on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty CFAJAM right here in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada,
streaming US on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
(13:26):
Judith and I will be back to Whatever you do,
don't go away.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
In a world where shadows dance and dreams take flight
through the veil of reality into the night. Rob McConnell
leads the way. A beacon so bright with over thirty
five years, he ignites the light, a voice from the north,
where whispers are bold, stories on.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
The snow falls down, the candles glow, there's peace and hearts.
The world should know the stranger's smiles, A child believed
(14:28):
love wraps softly lie. Christmas Eve, we all open, do
we land together? We learn to all understand.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
All friends call, and great is mad.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
For Christmas turns ons again. E on Christmas, kindness flowed
lines on every.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Tree and welcome back to once again. That is Christmas,
if every day were Christmas. That's from our brand new
album that is available on Amazon dot Com and Amazon
dot ca. A I guess this our Judith Chevron. Jim
Met Sneakowski was supposed to be with us, but he
(15:35):
was called away on urgent personal business. And you and
I were talking about cooking, and I said, this isn't
a cooking show.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And then during the commercial break, I got to thinking
about all the great times my wife and I have
had cooking over the years. So maybe we should do
a cooking show one day, you and I and bring
on special recipes that would bring people together. You, Jim
and I doing this together all right, I think accidentally, very.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Special recipes that are simple and easy that we'll be
glad to share.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, this is this is a great idea. Thank you
for see we brought this idea up talking about chicken soup. Jude,
if you talk about what was that phrase that I
wanted to oh, the magic of belonging? What does that
phrase mean? At its core?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
At its core, we are not alone. Now, I understand
that some people feel very much alone, and they really
are not feeling a belonging.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
With anybody, especially at this time of year exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But so many people discount the belongingness with friends. They
may not have a lover, they may not have a spouse,
but they have friends. And there is a belonging with
their friends if they will please pay attention to it.
(17:12):
And and Rob, there is a belonging with even strangers.
When magic happens, and I want to share with you
and everyone that just recently we went to Costco. I
don't know if you have.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
A Costco there, I will be sure doing. My wife
and I are proud owners of the Executive cards there
you go.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
So Jim had been having trouble with one of his legs.
It was just it was just, you know, funny. And
so as we left the left with having made our purchases,
I was out in front on our way to the car,
and Jim was behind me pushing them the car. And
(18:00):
when I looked back, I thought, oh, my goodness, something happened.
Jim's leg muscle must have given out. Here were two
young men holding him under each arm, and an older
gentleman pushing our carts following me, and it was magical,
(18:22):
and there was a belonging between all of us. And
there was a woman that was part of their crew,
and she was on the sideline smiling at me and
you know, indicating that everything is okay, but Jim just
needs support right now, I know. And they got to
(18:44):
our car and I thanked them profusely, of course, and
there was this deep sense of magical belonging with them.
They had saved the day, and they were right there
right there immediately so is Jim's leg gave out and
he when we got home, he said, I don't know
(19:05):
what happened. He said, I'm fine, he's walking around just fine,
but that muscle just gave out and they were right behind,
ready to grab him. And I you know your show
tends to be a little esoteric from time to time, Yes,
and so I wanted to give this example of every
(19:27):
day magic, every day belonging with strangers that we'll never
see again. But they were right there. And how often
are you in a parking lot and there's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Nobody around more times than left? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Often often, but no, there, these gentlemen were right behind
Jim and ready to catch him as he went down.
It was a magical sense of belonging, a.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Fast, fantastic story, you know. And I noticed throughout my
life that around Christmas time there is this wonderful magic
that is called the Christmas Spirit, where people smile more,
they dig deeper in their pockets to help those who
need help. They go into their pantries and they get
(20:21):
extra food that they say, well, we can afford to
give this away, or the clothes in the closet that
they giveaway, and you know what I wish that I
would be able to can that feeling. Yes, and when
people were upset, just open up a can of Christmas
(20:44):
spirit and the magic would happen and things would be okay.
But it takes it takes an effort on everybody's part
to make magic happen. Like if those kind people would
have ignored Jim, you know who knows right.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, exactly. And there are so many opportunities, as you
point out, that each of us can help support someone else. Back.
Our neighbor, who's a bit older than you are, was
(21:22):
up on his roof putting up the Christmas lights. He
was seated. He made sure he was seated so he
wouldn't fall. But I thought, I'm going to send him
some magic. I didn't use those words, but I was thinking,
I want to send a prayer over to Marty, make
(21:43):
sure that he's safe up there on his roof.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
The reason I'm shaking my head like that is because
it was about five years ago I was putting Christmas
tree lights up on our roof and I fell off
the roof. No, no, no, well, I broke my femur. No,
I shattered my femur, broke my pelvis wrecked up my back. Yeah,
(22:09):
and that was during COVID.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah, oh my god, I'm so no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, no, I just found it when you were saying, well,
he was up on the roof putting Christmas tree lights
sometimes like oh no, no, no, don't tell me he
fell to but you know, but you know what, I
discovered a few things with that fall. Number One, Sir
Isaac Newton was right, there is gravity. And number two,
(22:36):
it's not the fall that hurts. It's a sudden stop
now stop. Yeah, it was. It was a it was
a continuation of comical errors. Because we called the ambulance.
The nine one one on the ambulance bay was about
(22:56):
a quarter of a mile from my house. It took
them fifty four minutes to get to the place. Number two,
it took them over a half hour to figure how
to put me onto the stretcher. And then when we
got into the ambulance, the driver turned to me and
he said, excuse me, sir, do you know how to
get to the well in General Hospital? From here?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
How bizarre?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I know, I laughed, It just cracked me up.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Mind you.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
We got to the well in General Hospital and they
were very attentive. They were great doctors and they took
good care of me. So no, but things happened for
a reason. It gave me time to reflect when I
was in the hospital and then they put me into
a rehab center here in Saint Catharine's. It gave me
time to reflect on my life and I realized that
(23:46):
things happen in life for a reason. I truly believe that, yes,
we do have free will. We can deviate from the plan.
It's just like on a road map. You can go
from A to be on the main highway or from
A to be on the alternative route. And you know,
that gave me a lot of time to think. And
(24:09):
like I said, it was during COVID, things were just
going awry all over the place. People God bless them,
they lost their loved ones. And here I am fortunate
enough to have gone home in a couple of months,
but there were a lot of people who didn't go home.
(24:30):
And I believe in fate, I believe in destiny, I
believe in synchronicity, but I believe in the power of
the human spirit. And that was the most important lesson.
I learned that no matter what the problem is, out there.
We humans have the ability to solve it. If we
(24:54):
work on it, we can make it happen. The difference
between a dream and reality is just doing it. Dream
is the blueprint. Reality is getting all those little workers
in plate to make it happen. And that is so
important in my opinion, in a relationship. We have to
work at it, and you have.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
To work at your life, as you're saying. And one
of our more recent books is called Overcoming the Fear
of being Fabulous. Overcoming the Fear of being fabulous.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh wow, I love the tumble.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
For instance, how often when you pay somebody a compliment,
whether it's what a beautiful sweater, how lovely you look today,
or whatever it might be, and people say, oh, no,
big deal. They don't take it in, they don't receive
(25:58):
the compliment, and they don't thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I don't know I've had I've had the opposite happen.
I'll say, like today we were out shopping and no
I would talk to the salesguer and I said, well,
thank you so much for your help, and she said, I, sir,
thank you. And you know, just by saying Merry Christmas,
you put a big smile on somebody's face or opening
(26:24):
the door for somebody I don't know. I found it's
the opposite.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Well good, I'm glad that you have, but we see
all too often people shrugging off and they aren't owning
who they really are.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You and I have to take our break. My dear
friend Plea stand by always good seeing you ex oanation
if you'd like to find out more about my guest tonight.
Her partner in crime, unfortunately is not with her tonight.
Jim and Judith, I'm sorry, Judith and Jim dot com. Ladies.
First I see once again and it's Judith and Jim
dot Com and we'll be back on the other side
(27:04):
of the sharp break as we continue hearing the exce
one with yours truly Rob McConnell from our broadcast center
and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada. And you can
listen to us in your car, your home, wherever you are,
wherever you have an AM radio on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty CFAJ, and they also stream us online
at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It's the world no stranger, smile chan Believe love, Perhapsmtly
Christmas E We all can lose. We live together, weird
(27:53):
to ull to stay All friends call.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
Snowflakes falling on Terri Street, Downtown lights shine and soft down, sweet.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Voices laughing, Save bels Nick. It's the magic time of you.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
From port Dollhouse in a Miten's glove.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Families gather with water from hard school, this pee settler.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Theorld feels riding on this gent to Christstmas night.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
It's Christmas and Saint Canneries.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Where the well and waters clean children.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And welcome back to the explanation. Earlier today, Laura and
I were out about the town here in St. Cathar's.
We were on St. Paul Street and we have to
run into a new used store or they call thrift stores,
I guess. And we went in and we were talking
and well, Laura was shopping. I was talking to the
(29:35):
young lady that's there. Her name was Sonya, that she's
from Mel Salvador originally, and they have this thrift shop.
And I said to her, I said, what if it
gave you the inspiration to open a thrift shop? And
do you know what she said? It floored me, Judas.
She said, it's because I know there are people that
need help who cannot afford to buy brand new And
(30:00):
if we can help them and their families at this
time of need, then I'm a good Christian and I'm
a good person. Wow, people are out there. People do care.
And that's just one of the many stories that we're
(30:21):
going to be bringing our listeners and share with our
guests here until Christmas. In fact, I was talking to
our production staff today and wouldn'd be a great idea
to do that every day, let people know about the
good things in life instead of all the negativity we
hear on the news. Like, I can't remember a time, Judith,
when I was growing up where there was so much negativity,
(30:45):
so much hate, so many wars going on. I remember
waking up one morning when I was about twelve years
old and I heard that the war in that the
Israeli war had started, and it threw me like, what
do you mean a war? And now it's nothing, oh, Jaez,
(31:06):
President Trump's going to invade salve it or they double
tapped a bunch of survivors on a ship that they
already shot down. So what they do they just go
back and kill people and all this negative of the
war in Ukraine, how many people are dying there each
and every day. Right, how do I, judith, how do
(31:27):
we get to these people that they're getting it all wrong?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Isn't what a wonderful question? And I truly I have
no idea. I think about it similar to how you
were thinking about it. I don't know how to help
people change their perspective so that it is a peaceful planet.
It's a place where we all like to be here
(31:56):
and respect each other's differences instead of all of these,
as you say, all of these wars, and certainly at
our ages we have been through not ourselves involved in
these wars, but hearing about wars, watching wars on television
(32:18):
and now on our computers, and it seems to never
never change. And it's like, you know, our people at
their baseline, separate from a lot of other people so
malignant that they just can't help themselves but fight wars.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I don't know, you know, I can recall, just off
the top of my head, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam
War nine to eleven, the Afghanistan conflict, the Desert Storm.
Then you have all the shootings, the assassination of JFK,
(33:02):
the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, and I don't think anyone
needs to go through this in a lifetime. And I
understand that one group looks at it, well, you see, Rob,
that's because war makes money. But war also takes lives,
and to me, the life of a person is priceless.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Absolutely. But I think what we have to face is
what you just said, which is the corporations that are
making a fortune every time there's a war is driving
some of this problem. Yeah, and people are not as
important as these gigantic corporations that are making a fortune.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And when you have people who are in charge of
countries and are using their political positions for their gain
and the gain of their ally lies. I'll give you
an example. You've got Venezuela. President Trump is saying that
he's put the entire fleet in front of Venezuela because
(34:11):
of the Narco terrorists. But what he isn't saying is
that Venezuela has the most oil on the planet, and
he's got buddies in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East
who are giving him jets, giving him business to protect
(34:35):
their interest and their interests is the competition in Venezuela?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And also, come on, come on, exactly, why don't they
see it? Why don't they see it? What is like,
I'm just a radio guy, you know, and I look
at the world. Maybe I look at the world through
strange eyes because I love people, because I look at
(35:07):
you know, if you're not part of the solution, you're
part of the problem.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I don't think you have strange eyes. I think you
have eyes of love. And so many people do not
have eyes of love, particularly a lot of the people
that are these world leaders, so called leaders. They're not
looking with love, as you say, They're looking with who's
(35:37):
paying them these big fortunes, who is buying them off?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And what will give them more power?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Right right?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Exactly. I'm so it's very very sad.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
How can we help people on a personal level, on
a personal, day to day level. Find answers are a
big issue with most families. Most families, mom and dad
both work. The little ones I'm talking about, you know,
teenagers are left on their own. We go to a
restaurant for supper tonight and we're sitting down and at
(36:18):
the table across from us is a mom and dad
and four kids. Laura said, are you looking at what
they're doing? I said, no, I'm reading them in you
trying to figure out what I'm going to have for supper. Honey,
Why she said, Robbie, they're all using their iPhones instead
of talking to each other. Ah, what have we done?
(36:40):
What has technology done? Is it us who have allowed
ourselves to fall into the pit of well, you're not
that interesting, so I'm going to go on my iPhone
and find something else to chat about. Or is it
technology that actually wants us to do this Because the
more view certain things get, the more clicks they get,
(37:02):
the more clicks they get, the worm money they make.
And we'll break back into the same thing that we
were talking about a minute ago. It's all about money.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
And I think to some degree it is all about money.
And I think to some degree, a lot of families
have kids because they're supposed to, not because they want to,
and they really cherish these children and want to talk
with those children and want to get to know them
(37:30):
better all the time. I think so often people are
having kids because they're supposed to, and then it's easy
to just resort to using your iPhone at dinner instead
of talking. And I think also sometimes the younger generation
(37:53):
doesn't know how to trust their parents.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And who's fault and who's.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Fault is that? I would say, it's the parents fault.
Why aren't the parents welcoming the differentness of their children?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
When we were young, my brother and I we had
suffer with mom and dad every night, and this was
what I l in later years, would call up the
daily wrap up. Dad would tell us what happened at work.
Mom would tell us what happened at work. We would
tell Mom and Dad what happened at school, and then
we'd have a general conversation while we were having our supper.
(38:32):
We communicated. And this is why I guess I'm into communication,
because it was such a pivotal point in my life
and so important in my life that we communicate.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And how wonderful that your family dinners were all about communication? Yeah,
I would say the family I grew up and I
had a younger brother, I have a younger brother was
more about my father catering to my mom because he
cherished her, but neither of them particularly interested in my
(39:11):
brother or me. Nothing bad happened, nobody was being abusive,
but I think my brother and I both felt like, Okay,
it's up to us to take care of each other.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, thank you, and truly everybody you know listening, please
pay attention In terms of your family. Are you open
to learning about your kids, your nieces, nephews, grandchildren, whoever
it may be. Are you open to asking those questions
(39:52):
of what's going on at school these days? You know
you may not like the answer. You know, you may
be hearing that they're bored at school, or they have
a teacher they don't like, or whatever. That's life. Please
be interested.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
That is life and life it sometimes can be cruel
about you know. That's the fact. You can't fix a
problem if you don't know that the problem exists, right right,
And we all just need to work together to solve
the problems. And as Laurie used to tell our kids
when they were growing up, you have to learn to
face the monster in the closet.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Ah, how lovely.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, and you know she's a good mom, very good mom?
Is you? And I must take our final break, My
dear friend, please stand by exhnation. The one and only
doctor Judith Shevrin is our special guest and her hobby
Jim is usually with us, but unfortunately he's been called
away on personal business. We'll have him back on in
the near future, because I feel like the Three Amigos
(41:04):
when we're together, you know, three good old buddies. Stand
by Judith. We'll be right back and so we'll be
explanation as we continue right here in the X Zone
from our broadcast center and studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada.
And yes, you're still listening and watching us on the
X On Broadcast Network, Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network,
Tuber and listening to us near your car, your home,
(41:27):
your office, wherever you're wherever you have an AM radio
and you have it set to twelve twenty am because
that's Classic your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty CFAJAM right
here in St. Catherine streaming us on Classic twelve twenty dot.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
CA Family, Scatoil.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
School, lest.
Speaker 8 (41:55):
Fields Right on this Janz.
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Esus high on the tree through the soft candle, woln
Angel stands watch on the world down below, hurrying.
Speaker 10 (42:24):
Shine and gold, her heart full love, grace. She's seen
every joy in this ould sacred place. She's watched tiny
(42:44):
heads hanging silver bow.
Speaker 11 (42:49):
Her laughter stores the children wood tail from new left
to hold from Sez God.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
This Welcome back everyone. Judith Shreven is our special guest.
Doctor Judith Hirvin is our special guest. And first of all, judithh,
thank you so much for coming on the show tonight.
It's almost such a great pleasure having you here with us.
I would imagine that one of the biggest challenges that
you and Jim face in your professional life when dealing
(43:27):
with people is those people who have no self worth.
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Really, you're right, It certainly is certainly an issue, and
one of the ways that we deal with it is
to help them grow their self worth. And the reason
I mentioned the business of receiving compliments is these people
definitely just pass it off. They don't receive the compliment,
(44:00):
they don't take in the praise. Whether it's at work
or in their social life, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Is that because they don't feel they deserve it right
well there.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
And they've never learned to take in what is coming
to them of worth. They just pass it by. They
just pass it by, and so it doesn't land and
it doesn't go in and help them grow their self worth.
(44:33):
So receiving compliments is a huge issue. We've had a
number of people at the major places like LinkedIn or
credit Garma, places where we've been coaches say I deserve
I deserve a promotion, but my supervisor, my manager just
(44:56):
ignores me. Well, have you asked? Have you asked what
you need to do to deserve that promotion?
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
No, no, I would never do that. I would. Well,
how about if we make a deal with you. But
between now and the next time we talk, which may
be a week two weeks later, you go to your
manager and you say, what do I need to do
so that you will promote me to the next level?
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (45:29):
All right, all right, all right. And when they come back,
very often what they say is I was shocked. My
manager said, oh my goodness, thank you for bringing this up.
I've been thinking about you. I'm so busy, I don't
have time. Here's what you need to do. You need
to do these two steps or three, whatever it might be,
(45:54):
and then I will happily give you a promotion. You
certainly are going to deserve it. Thank you for raising
the issue with me. They are in shock because they've
never thought to ask.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Once again, they don't know they're self worth. But they're
also afraid of rejection.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
And yet with their manager, who often may have had
the position they're in six months, a year, a year
and a half, and they've had the same manager and
they've not been rejected, although as you're saying, they often
fear rejection, right, you know, if they ask for more,
(46:34):
what will come, what will happen? And yet how are
they going to find out? So really, for so many people,
it's taking one tiny little step. And really, when we
said when we wrote the book Overcoming the Fear of
being Fabulous, what we had in mind and we do
(46:57):
have in mind, is how people hold them selves back
from being more than they are right now, And it
was being fabulous.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I remember the first time I went in to see
a boss and I am still in high school at
the time, and I was working weekends in part time,
and I was there about six months, and I'm watching
everybody else, and you know, they're getting raises and they're
doing this and not the other. I figured, what the hell?
(47:29):
So I went in to see the lost and I said,
and I'll tell you the honest truth, I was afraid.
I was afraid, but I decided, hey, I'm worth more.
I work as hard. It's harder than some of these
other people. So I went in and I asked the boss.
His name was Bruno Lambert, and I said, mister Lambert,
(47:49):
I'd like a raise. He looked up and he said, okay,
Robbie got one. I went back to what he was
doing and I'm sorry, that's it.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
It was that easy.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, yes, and was asked.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
And yet Jim and I met on a blind date.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Oh, tell me about this. I love to hear these
love stories.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
And as I said, he was in the middle of
his divorce. Number two and I had never married, and
we were in our forties, and we realized both of
us had been professional actors earlier in our lives, and
we came up with the phrase the fear of being fabulous,
because we both agreed we had never gone to our
(48:33):
agents and said, do what you have to do to
get me a running part in a series, or do
what you have to do to make me a star.
In fact, after college, I went back to New York City,
I grew, I went to UCLA, and I went to
I went back to New York and did lots of
work and one of my managers, one of my agents there,
(48:55):
said I would like to manage your acting career. Rob
what I said was no, No, I need to go
back to Los Angeles and get married. Third, twenty two
years later, I meet Jim to get married. But it
(49:16):
never crossed my mind to be a star. It never
crossed my mind to make a career out of acting.
And yet here was this person saying, I'd like to
be your manager. And my answer was so fear of
being fabulously you know, dumb, No, I need to go
(49:37):
back to Los Angeles and get married because my parents
had raised me to get married and have kids.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Do you regret not taking that proposition from the agent?
Speaker 5 (49:51):
We Jim and I've talked a lot about all of
the ways that we regret not growing our careers as actors,
and yet we also come back to well what if
we hadn't met?
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Oh that Once again, I truly believe that destiny plays
a major part in our life. I'll give you another
example if you don't mind. There are so many times
over the years, I've been doing the show now for
thirty eight years, and there are times when I figure
that's it. I'm tired, you know, it's time to and
(50:27):
the powers to be kind of put enough roadblocks in
front of me that I can't. It's like, Okay, I
get the message, not yet, and then everything goes as
smooth as silk. So I really believe in destiny that
throughout my life I've been at the right place at
(50:48):
the right time, met the right people, like meeting you
and Jim for an example, doing what I've to do
because I'm a dreamer, I truly am. But I've always
believed that if I dream it, I can do it.
(51:11):
And John Lennon, I don't know if you remember that
in one of his songs, she said it was in
all you need is love. Anything I can do, you
can do, huh. You know? So I believe. I believe
that people can do what they want. They just need
to know that they can, and they need people like
(51:33):
you and Jim to help them if they don't realize
their self worth and how your help can make them
achieve whatever they want to achieve in life.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
Yes, absolutely, and to understand that how they were and
I'm going to use a very strong word but brainwat
and their families.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Oh, I've seen parents when I've been out say to
their child, oh, you'll never be anything. What a thing
to say to our child? What a thing to say
to anyone.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Know exactly, but parents say those kinds of things all
the time. And also they are role models. Jim and
I grew up in lower middle class families. My dad
sold used cars, he was a high school dropout to
support his family, and Jim's dad worked in Detroit and
(52:36):
the Ford Motor Company. So also our role models were
not of people that were making a lot of money
and you were super successful, and there was no big
encouragement for us to proceed further than we already were.
We were already far more successful than the parents that
(52:58):
we had, and they didn't help us either. So please,
everybody listening, encourage your kids to grow, grow.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Grow, absolutely, no matter what your financial status is in life,
no whether you're My dad was a presser where he
worked in the laundry industry. He was a presser. My
mom was a secretary. And yet they did everything in
their power to give my brother the love that they
(53:31):
gave us over the many years, and I grew to
understand that when it comes to who you are, it's
not the money you have in your pocket, it's the
love you have in your heart. Ah, So thank you
Mom and dad.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
Isn't that the truth?
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah? We've got about a minute left before I have
to say so long. What final message would you like
to leave with the audience tonight.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Please pay attention to all of the everyday magic that
happens in your life. Like the two guys that grabbed
my husband Jim under his arms out in the Costco
parking lot and helped get him into the car, and
the gentleman who took the cart and brought it to
(54:22):
the car. That was every day magic. Please notice everything
that happens to you that is every day magic.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
And this is the season of magic. So to you
and Jim, and to your family, your friends, and all
those hearts that you touch on a daily basis, to
you all, a very merry Christmas, happy holidays, and May
twenty twenty and May and May the year twenty twenty
(54:50):
six bring you love, light and happiness. That's it.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
That's it, and wonderful to be with you.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Take care of yourself. Please give my very best to Jim,
and I look forward to the next time we all
meet back here in the Xon. So until then, take
care of my friend. God bless x oonation that this
has been an hour that I fully enjoy talking to
Judith and Jim. Unfortunately, Jim was called away on business,
but he'll be with us next time, and I'll be
(55:22):
able to bug them some more. We'll think I usually
do so. Until then, along Judith and the x O Nation,
we'll be back on the other side of the sharp
break as we continue hearing the xone from our broadcast
center in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, and you're listening to
us on your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty c FAJAM
streaming us at Classic twelfth twenty dot CA.
Speaker 9 (55:46):
High on the tree through the South Candoglobe, n Angel Stazzle.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
Down below. Ring shot
Popular Podcasts
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.