December 13, 2025 • 41 mins
In this compassionate and insightful episode of Rob McConnell Interviews, Rob speaks with Dr. Stephen Garrett Marcus, MD, a leading medical expert and author of Complications of Cancer, to shed light on the often overlooked challenges faced by patients and caregivers throughout the cancer journey. Dr. Marcus explains the biological, emotional, and systemic complications that arise not just from the disease itself but also from its treatments, offering a clear understanding of what patients truly endure. From pain management and immune dysfunction to treatment side effects, psychological strain, and quality-of-life concerns, he provides an accessible yet deeply informed perspective that empowers families with knowledge. This thoughtful conversation emphasizes humanity, hope, and the vital role of education in navigating one of life’s most difficult battles.
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our website www dot xzon Radio TV dot com. My
first guest on tonight show Xonation is doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus.
We're going to be talking to the good doctor about
can patients fight cancer complications? Well, often it's not the
cancer that kills, it's the complications of cancer, some of
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which can be corrected with quick attention, says our guest
this hour, doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus. And this is quote.
Complications are common, says doctor Marcus, the author of a
comprehensive new reference book entitled Complications of Cancer, and his
website is www dot Complications of cancer dot com. Let
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me see and they become more frequent and severe of
cancer progresses or spreads, Immediate medical attention is critically important
with serious complicated when serious complications develop, he emphasizes, and
joining me now is our guest this hour, Doctor Stephen
Garrett Marcus, and doctor Marcus. Welcome to the xone.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know what, cancer seems to be on the on
the rise. Fifty sixty years ago for cancer to be
diagnosed and someone was very rare. Why is that, sir?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think it largely is based upon first increased recognition
of cancer, increased ability to diagnose cancer in its earliest stages,
but also it's changes in many of the habits that
produce cancer, and of course the most common habit producing
cancer is cigarette smoking. Cigarette smoking is very highly associated
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not only with lung cancer, but with a variety of
other very serious cancers, such as cancer of the throat,
cancer of the esophagus, and cancer of the bladder. And
so smoking smoking, which increased probably quite a bit after
World War Two when it became very common to smoke,
is a big problem. And also overeating excess calories has
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also been linked to an increasing risk of cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
How dangerous is second hand smoke is it as dangerous
as the person who takes the first puff sun to
actually gets it into their lungs.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Second Hand smoke is very dangerous, although it's not as
dangerous to be exposed to second hand smoke as to
be smoking oneself. But often you see people who smoked
for years and then stopped and then years later developed
lung cancer. But often they living in the house with
someone else who didn't stop smoking, so the continued second
hand smoke to which they're exposed continues to increase their
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risk of cancer. So secondhand smoke is risk to everyone,
but it's especially a risk to people who at one
time with heavy smokers, then stopped and continue to be
exposed to the second hand smoke.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, it still boggles my mind, doctor, with all the
evidence that the medical community has come out with against
the against smoking and a second hand smoke, and yet
the government has not done enough, in my opinion, to
stop the sale of tobacco. It's like, all right, here's
a gun, put it to your head, pull the trigger.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, it's very difficult to regulate. It's very difficult to
regulate that type of behavior. But what they can do
is to stop smoking in public places, indoors and in
some college campuses, for example, they're now slapping smoking out
of doors as well.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Whatever can be done to discourage smoking without infringing on
people's feelings of civil liberty, I think are quite important.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That brings up a whole new different topic. Where does
civil liberties end and where does the actual concern for
a person start. We're going to be talking more to
our guests this hour. Exhonation doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus. He
is the author of a new book, Complications of Cancer.
His website Www Dot Complications of cancer dot com. My
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name is Rob McConnell. This is the actual I'm the
good doctor, and I returned on the other side of
this commercial break. As we continue from our studios in
beautiful Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Don't go away.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Over the job.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I think of you. I always catch my breath and
I'm still standing here and you away, and I'm wondering why.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I name explanation. I guess this hour is Doctor Stephen
Garrett Marcus. He received his medical degree from New York
Medical College and completed a medical oncology fellowship at the
University of California in San Francisco. As a senior research
executive in biotechnology and pharmaceutical industry since nineteen eighty five,
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he played a lead role in developing a betis serons
as the first effective treatment of multiple sclerosis, and has
led multi national research teams for other treatments. Doctor Marcus
as president and CEO of a biotechnology company developing new
treatments for cancer and other life threatening illnesses. His website
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www Dot Complicated of cancer dot com. Doctor, What are
the most commonly held myths about cancer treatment that you
can debunk well?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I think that one of the most commonly held myths
is that is that cancer is either curable or not curable,
and that if it's not curable, that there is nothing
much that can be done to treat the cancer. Cancer.
Cancers are of course, often curable by surgery, but even
if they're not curable by surgery, there are a wide
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variety of treatments that are available that can that can
greatly extend life and improve quality and improve quality of life.
And the other major myth is the lack of focus
upon the complications of cancer. That the treatment of cancer
not only involves attempting to cure the cancer itself, but
also to avoid or to promptly treat the serious complications
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that can pose as much of a risk to life
as the underlying cancer itself.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Why is it that some people get cancer and other
people don't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Much of that is remains unknown. And some of this,
of course, a lot of it depends upon our genes, sure,
and upon our heredity, and a lot of it depends
upon exposure to chemicals in our environment, to exposure to
cigarette smoke. But you have many people who are extremely
healthy and who've done all the right things their entire
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life and who developed cancers for reasons that are unknown,
and it's still one of the great mysteries in the
world of cancer research.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
When doing any research for cancer, or as well as
the great work that is done by the medical profession
around the world and helping those with cancer overcome or
best as they can cope with cancer, what percentage of
patience doctor would you say experience complications and what are
the major complications that they would face.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, I would say that the overwhelm helming majority of
people who develop cancers other than very superficial skin cancers,
developed some complications of the cancer. If a cancer is
superficial or is easily treated by surgery, then often there
are no complications at all. But if the cancer is
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at a stage where it becomes difficult to treat or
difficult to cure, or if cure is no longer possible,
then the overwhelming majority of people will have some form
of complication of the cancer at some point the over
the coming months or years.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
What is the most common serious complication of cancer treatment.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Well, of cancer treatment itself, the most common complication is
suppression of the bone marrow, and when the bone marrow
is suppressed, the bone marrow is responsible for producing the
white blood cells that fight infections and the platelets that
allow our blood to club to clock properly, and as
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well produce the red blood cells that bring oxygen to
our tissues. So when white blood cells are diminished, a
person's very prone to getting infections in particular, and that's
one of the most serious complications of cancer treatment.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know, we've talked to people over the years who
believe there's a conspiracy with big Pharma, and you know,
Big farm is actually dragging their legs in order to
find a cure for cancer. Because once there's a cure
for cancer, then there's a lot of money that's lost.
How do you react to those kinds of statements.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Doctor Well, Having been in the pharmaceutical industry for many
years and working with so many very dedicated, very serious scientists,
I can just say that it's just absolutely not true.
People working very hard to find some treatment for cancer.
Because all of us are human. Half half of us
in the pharmaceutical industry will ourselves die of cancer. Almost
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all of us will have somebody close to us who
who either dies of cancer or suffers with cancer. People
are trying very, very hard to find some treatment for cancer.
It's just that it's a very, very difficult not to crack.
It's very complicated science. Our tools are not sharp enough
to yet uncover all the mysteries of cancer. It's very difficult.
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That there are a lot of very smart, very dedicated
people working on.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
This is cancer research getting the appropriate funding.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh, I wish it had more funding. We could always
use more funding from the federal government at the NIH
level for what's called basic research, and pharmaceutical companies also
could use more money to do the research. It's research
to find cancer treatment is extremely expensive, not only in
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the basic research that goes on in the laboratory, but
also the clinical testing which we must do to determine
whether drug is safe and effective.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Now before a drug actually gets on the market, that
the medical profession can use. How long does it take
from the time you, as a biotechnol bioscientists start on
a project to the time it gets into what I
believe is called trials.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yes, well, usually it takes three to five years between
the time somebody has a laboratory idea for something that
may work and the time until it's actually first tested
in a person. The reason for this is first we
have to validate the science. Then you have to do
the appropriate testing to make sure that this is safe
to put into human beings. And then you have to
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go to the ethics committees and to the FDA or
in Canada, the HPB, which is the equivalent of the FDA,
so that the ethics can be reviewed, so that the
science could be reviewed, so that the safety of the
people that are going to be treated with this can
be reasonably assured, and so that usually takes a good
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three to five years. And then the clinical testing itself
of the drug, depending on how fact of the drug
turns out to be, will usually be another four to
six years or in that range.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
My gosh. And of course this is a very costly,
very costly procedure.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It is extremely costly and can cost, depending on the drug,
hundreds of millions or even over a billion dollars to
develop a new drug.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
How close, doctor, in your most modest opinion, are we
to actually finding a cure for cancer or is the
actual finding of the cure being made so difficult by
them many different types of cancers.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yes, I don't know that we're going to ever find
a cure for all cancer. It's possible, but it looks
as though every cancer has its own unique fingerprint. Every
cancer seems to be different, and there probably will be
many different treatments for the many different types of cancer,
But unfortunately we've cured very few cancers at this point
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in time. We can surgically cure colon cancer and prostate
cancer and many other cancers as so surgical cures are
certainly possible, but once something is surgically not curable, finding
cures has been rather elusive and right now, the major
curable cancers are leukeinias and lymphomas, and a few other
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uncommon cancers are sometimes curable, but the most common cancers
lung cancer, breast cancer, stomach cancer, pancreatic cancer. Once those
are no longer surgically curable, they're very difficult to cure
with existing therapies.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
We see on TV commercials for an alternative health center
that says, you know, basically, if they listen, if the
established medical community can't cure you, we can or come
over and see us. Is there a lot of competition
in the cancer the fight for cancer industry, within the
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medical community itself.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, many many people will seek an alternative when they're
told by their traditional physicians that a treatment treatments are
no longer available that will be significantly effective, and it
certainly is understandable to seek those alternatives. The problem is
that many of those alternatives are really untested, and when
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you look beneath the surface of those alternatives, they often
have people with very suspect credentials and often charging a
very large amount of money. This is why an important
alternative people with treatments or diseases that are thought to
be somewhat treatable or poorly treatable, or defined reputabile clinical.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Trials ex oonation. Our guest to this hour is doctor
Stephen Garrett Marcus. His website is www. Dot Complications of
cancer dot com. That's www. Dot complications of cancer dot com.
Are the statistics that you see doctor showing that there
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is a definite spike in cancer and are people in
the younger age groups now also being diagnosed with cancer?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Well, many people in younger age groups are diagnosed with cancer,
it's difficult to say whether their numbers are are significantly increasing,
other than the increased risk of lung cancer as people
have started smoking at a much earlier age. And also
there are some cancers that may be related to what's
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called the human papeloma virus. It's actually transmitted virus that
also appear to be occurring at a somewhat younger age.
But overall, it's not entirely clear that people are getting
cancer at younger and younger ages unless they've been exposed
to some thing that causes that cancer.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
And I'm sure there's a lot more skin cancer coming
up with the you know, more and more people spending
time outside and really not taking care of their skinning,
playing the proper the appropriate preventative measures that could actually
help them.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yes, there is also a higher instance of melanoma in particular,
which is the most dangerous of skin cancers, as people
are exposed to more and more sun and also to
tanning beds.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Let's talk about tanning beds when we come back from
this commercial break with our news. Doctor Marcus, thanks very
much for being with us. It's very interesting talking to you, sir,
x O nation. My guess this hour is doctor Stephen
Garrett Marcus. He is the author of Complications of Cancer
www dot Complications of Cancer dot com. And we'll be
back on the other side of this commercial break with
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Speaker 3 (21:13):
Welcome back everyone, This is the excellent. My name is
Rob McConnell I. Guess this hour is doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus.
And doctor Marcus is the author of a book that
deals with cancer. And the question that we asked doctor
Marcus at the beginning of the show is can patients
fight cancer complications? The name of his book is Complications
of Cancer and his website is www dot Complications of
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cancer dot com. Before we went to the break, doctor
we briefly touched on the different scenarios you know, with cancer,
and we talked very very briefly about tanning salons, and
I was wondering if you could tell us more about
how people get cancer at tanning salons. Is it because
the same the same ingredient through the same cause that
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would cause skin melanoma outside.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yes, it's basically the ultra violet type of radiation that
activates certain cells that are deep within the skin that
produces a substance called melanin. They're called melanocytes, and when
these cells are activated and you basically tickle their DNA,
they can cause the DNA to suddenly become abnormal and
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those cells that can begin to grow and multiply, and
when this happens, then they can turn into the malignant
melanoma cells. So exposure in exposure to tanning salons also
gives you a very concentrated dose of this harmful type
of vultra violet radiation.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I understand in some states and provinces they're actually issuing
health warnings and they're actually putting an age limit onto
the people who can actually go into these units.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yes, I think that's a very good idea. But if
someone does go to these units, then it's very important
that they see a dermatologist regularly so that their skin
can be very carefully examined from the top of their
head to the bottom of their feet to make sure
that none of these melanomas are growing, because at that point,
the best chance of curing a melanoma is by early
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identification in them, by removing the melanoma surgically.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You now, somebody's probably saying, all right, it's only a
small little dot, you know, who cares. But what are
the complications of a person who doesn't detect the small melanoma?
And how can it grow and how dangerous can it be?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Melanoma is one of the most dangerous of all the
cancers because it has a tendency to spread widely throughout
the body, especially melanoma's on the scalp for example, which people,
for example, who have bald heads and who are in
the sun quite a bit, should be particularly careful because
they often get melanomas on the scalp and those can
be extremely dangerous because those have tendency to spread to
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organs throughout the body, and so identifying them early and
removing them is the best is the best way of
preventing the severe complications of that deadly form of cancer.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Let me pitch this douc to you.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Doctor.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I'm sorry, it seems that we're having a bit of
of a sunburst over here. Well, let me ask you this,
all right, If melanoma is caused by radiation, basically, am
I correct?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
By ultrabile radiation, it's a major cause of it. Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Is it then possible that the microwave radiation that is
used in the cell phone industry can also cause cancer?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, that's been the subject of a lot of dispute
and a lot of research, and the major concern is
whether or not this increases the risk of malignant brain timors, because,
after all, you put a cell phone next to your ear,
and your ear is next to your brain, and so
there's been a major worry about whether or not this
can increase the risk of malignant brain tumors. It's not
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been said that it increases the risk of melanoma, but
there still remains at least some concern about a higher
risk of brain tumors. The most recent thinking though, is
that if there is an increased risk, it's a very
trivial one, but this still remains to be evaluated.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It's funny because when you pull into a gas station,
the first thing they tell you to do is to
shut off your cell phone. And when you get on
an aircraft, it affects the aircraft's avionics, so you're asked
to keep your cell phone or your your handheld device off.
When you go into a hospital, they ask you to
keep your your handheld device off. Is this just a
precaution for cross technology purposes or is there more to
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it than meets the eye.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
The major concern is just interfering with other devices, at
least in the hospital setting, with other devices in the hospital.
I guess in an aircraft, it's interfering with the aircraft
whatever is in the aircraft avionics?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
How is how is the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry,
And of course you people in research who God bless you.
My hat's off to you for all the hard work
that you do. How are you preparing for the changing times?
For example, there's a lot more seniors coming. The baby
boomers are turning into seniors. Now, how is this going
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to affect the research and the actual production of any
pharmaceutical breakthrough that comes.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well, it's going to be a very big challenge because
we need new medications. The population is aging, and as
we are more successful in treating diseases and keeping people
alive long or even curing diseases, people live to get
yet more diseases, and in the end, the cost of
medical care continues to climb. And so the key is
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to do one's best to find more and more effective
therapies that not only can cure the disease, but they
can do so rather promptly, and by doing so, reduce
the overall cost of medical Here reduced the incidents of
hospitalizations and all the other ancillary costs associated with that.
But it is a very big challenge over the next
several years is developing cost effective medications that are that
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are effective and while at the same time that don't
strain the ability of the system to pay for them.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
In your opinion, sir, what is the best medical treatment
at this time for cancer?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Well, the best medical treatment when it's possible is always
surgical removal of the cancer. So if someone, for example,
has a small localized lung cancer which is surgically curable,
the best treatment for it will be is surgery. But
if the cancer is not curable, then every cancer is
its own story, and that's why in the book Complications
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of Cancer, I talk talk in the beginning of the
book about the fifteen most common forms of cancer, so
that I give just a broad overview with a lot
of specific detail about the different cancers. This serves as
a foundation for understanding the many complications of cancer, which
I discuss later on in the book, which can cut
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across most of the major forms of cancer.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
What is the besides the melanimal What are some of
the signs or symptoms that one may have cancer or
does this all depend on going to your doctor on
a regular basis for regular checkups.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well, you know, many cancers are just not detectable until
they're rather advanced. Certainly, going to doctors for regular checkups
it can help, especially to prevent colon cancer. Colonoscopy or
sigmoidoscopy or testing the stool for blood it can certainly
identify colon cancer at an early stage. There's controversy about
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some other cancers as to how effective screening for cancer
really is. For example, there's controversy about the use of
CT scans or X rays for early detection of lung cancer.
There are no good detections for for ovrain cancer ADIT
early stages, or for pantcreatic cancer or stomach cancer. Those
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cancers are often difficult to pick up on a routine
physical examination.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
One six ten seven zero three five is the toll
free number here at the XON. Our guest this hour
is doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus. He's the author of To
Have Your Pencils and Paper Ready, Complications of Cancer, and
his website is www Dot Complications of Cancer dot com.
That's www dot Complications of Cancer dot com. There are
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the you know, there's there's the hospitals, and then there's
the hospice, and then they're, like I said, are there
are the other type of of institutions where they use
the bodymind, soul and spirit as well as traditional medicine
too to work with a cancer patient. Have you heard
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or have you seen or is there any evidence whatsoever
that this approach works better than the traditional medical procedures.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Sometimes they call those other procedures best supportive care, And
there have been clinical trials where they've evaluated for different
cancers best supportive care, which means basically non medical treatment
but other things such as nutrition and frame of mind
and spiritual support, and compared that with standard therapy or
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sometimes use that as an adjunct or something that's in
addition to standard therapy. And what usually is found is
that when added on to standard therapy, it can be
very useful. Now, of course, it depends on what type
of what type of so called alternative therapy there is.
There are many alternative therapies that themselves can have quite
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a bit of toxicity. For example, years ago, it was
very common to give intensive high colonic enemies on a
frequent basis to people with cancer, and often all that
did was dehydrate and weakened people and had no benefit whatsoever.
So not all alternative therapy is effective, but as an
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adjunct to standard therapy. There is many of these forms
of therapy and found to be useful.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Is there a way that we can start knocking down
the number of people who contract cancer, you know, without
having to depend on the medical research that's going on
in the pharmaceutical industry. Is there something that John Q
public can do or try and get their governments to do.
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We talked briefly about the cigarette problems, and you know,
the human rights, but what about the people who suffer
from the human the secondhand smoke of these smokers who
are infringing on their rights.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, there are many clinical trials that are in progressive
things which are called chemopreventive agents, which means medicines or
vitamins that might prevent cancer and people who are exposed
to cancer causing agents such as secondhand smoke. And so
far nothing really stands out as preventive. But the only
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thing that one can say is that just looking back
over broad populations, what we know is that people who
eat more fruits and vegetables, in some particular fruits such
as blueberries and strawberries and raspberries, and people who eat
a lot of green leafy vegetables seem to have a
lower incidence of cancer, and they probably do have some
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preventive effect in people who are otherwise exposed to cancer
causing agents such as second hand smoke.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
In your opinion, what are some of these steps that
listeners can do to better their chances to prevent cancer?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I think at first is to restrict calories. By restricting calories,
I don't mean something to an extraordinary extent, but not
eating to access to the point of becoming obese, because
obesity is clearly associated with an increased risk of cancer.
And then cutting back somewhat on not only on red meat,
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but also on highly processed red meats and on barbecued
meats that can decrease the risk and increase in the
intake of green leafy vegetables and fresh fruits.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Are we talking about barbecued meats that are charred or
are we talking about barbecue meats that are even seared
using the new propane propane units that have no charcoal.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, it's primarily charred meats, primarily charred food.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Jeez. I wonder if if over time there's been a
study done to see if there are a number of
firefighters who have come down with lung cancer because of
all the smoke that they eat.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's a good question. I don't by the answer.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Doctor, Our time is nearly up here. Could you give
our listeners an idea on how they can get a
copy of your book?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yes, sir, they can go on to my website which
is www dot Complications of Cancer dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And of course, our guest this our x oonation has
been doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus, MD, and he is the
author of Complications of Cancer www dot Complications of Cancer
dot com. Doctor, I want to thank you so much
for joining us. It's been a great pleasure talking to you,
and I wish you success in the future. And thank
you for all the great work that you and other
researchers and doctors around the world are doing to help
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eradicate this awful disease. Thank you take care of having me.
There we go x oonation once again, can patients fight
cancer complications? Well, my guess this hour has been Steven
Garrett Marcus, MD. He received his medical degree from New
York Medical College and completed a medical oncology fellowship at
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the University of California in San Francisco as a senior
research executive in the biotechnology and pharmaceutical industry since nineteen
eighty five. He played a lead role in developing beta
seron as the first effective treatment of multiple sclerosis, and
has led multinational research teams for other treatments. Doctor Marcus
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is the president and CEO of a biotechnology company developing
new treatments for cancer and other life threatening illnesses and diseases.
Once again. The name of his book is Complications of
Cancer and his website is www dot Complications of Cancer
dot com. Now I'll be back on the other side
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We're going to be talking to the good doctor about
can patients fight cancer complications? Well, often it's not the
cancer that kills, it's the complications of cancer, some of
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which can be corrected with quick attention, says our guest
this hour, doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus. And this is quote.
Complications are common, says doctor Marcus, the author of a
comprehensive new reference book entitled Complications of Cancer, and his
website is www dot Complications of cancer dot com. Let
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me see and they become more frequent and severe of
cancer progresses or spreads, Immediate medical attention is critically important
with serious complicated when serious complications develop, he emphasizes, and
joining me now is our guest this hour, Doctor Stephen
Garrett Marcus, and doctor Marcus. Welcome to the xone.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know what, cancer seems to be on the on
the rise. Fifty sixty years ago for cancer to be
diagnosed and someone was very rare. Why is that, sir?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think it largely is based upon first increased recognition
of cancer, increased ability to diagnose cancer in its earliest stages,
but also it's changes in many of the habits that
produce cancer, and of course the most common habit producing
cancer is cigarette smoking. Cigarette smoking is very highly associated
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not only with lung cancer, but with a variety of
other very serious cancers, such as cancer of the throat,
cancer of the esophagus, and cancer of the bladder. And
so smoking smoking, which increased probably quite a bit after
World War Two when it became very common to smoke,
is a big problem. And also overeating excess calories has
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also been linked to an increasing risk of cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
How dangerous is second hand smoke is it as dangerous
as the person who takes the first puff sun to
actually gets it into their lungs.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Second Hand smoke is very dangerous, although it's not as
dangerous to be exposed to second hand smoke as to
be smoking oneself. But often you see people who smoked
for years and then stopped and then years later developed
lung cancer. But often they living in the house with
someone else who didn't stop smoking, so the continued second
hand smoke to which they're exposed continues to increase their
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risk of cancer. So secondhand smoke is risk to everyone,
but it's especially a risk to people who at one
time with heavy smokers, then stopped and continue to be
exposed to the second hand smoke.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, it still boggles my mind, doctor, with all the
evidence that the medical community has come out with against
the against smoking and a second hand smoke, and yet
the government has not done enough, in my opinion, to
stop the sale of tobacco. It's like, all right, here's
a gun, put it to your head, pull the trigger.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, it's very difficult to regulate. It's very difficult to
regulate that type of behavior. But what they can do
is to stop smoking in public places, indoors and in
some college campuses, for example, they're now slapping smoking out
of doors as well.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Whatever can be done to discourage smoking without infringing on
people's feelings of civil liberty, I think are quite important.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That brings up a whole new different topic. Where does
civil liberties end and where does the actual concern for
a person start. We're going to be talking more to
our guests this hour. Exhonation doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus. He
is the author of a new book, Complications of Cancer.
His website Www Dot Complications of cancer dot com. My
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name is Rob McConnell. This is the actual I'm the
good doctor, and I returned on the other side of
this commercial break. As we continue from our studios in
beautiful Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Don't go away.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Over the job.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I think of you. I always catch my breath and
I'm still standing here and you away, and I'm wondering why.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I name explanation. I guess this hour is Doctor Stephen
Garrett Marcus. He received his medical degree from New York
Medical College and completed a medical oncology fellowship at the
University of California in San Francisco. As a senior research
executive in biotechnology and pharmaceutical industry since nineteen eighty five,
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he played a lead role in developing a betis serons
as the first effective treatment of multiple sclerosis, and has
led multi national research teams for other treatments. Doctor Marcus
as president and CEO of a biotechnology company developing new
treatments for cancer and other life threatening illnesses. His website
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www Dot Complicated of cancer dot com. Doctor, What are
the most commonly held myths about cancer treatment that you
can debunk well?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I think that one of the most commonly held myths
is that is that cancer is either curable or not curable,
and that if it's not curable, that there is nothing
much that can be done to treat the cancer. Cancer.
Cancers are of course, often curable by surgery, but even
if they're not curable by surgery, there are a wide
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variety of treatments that are available that can that can
greatly extend life and improve quality and improve quality of life.
And the other major myth is the lack of focus
upon the complications of cancer. That the treatment of cancer
not only involves attempting to cure the cancer itself, but
also to avoid or to promptly treat the serious complications
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that can pose as much of a risk to life
as the underlying cancer itself.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Why is it that some people get cancer and other
people don't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Much of that is remains unknown. And some of this,
of course, a lot of it depends upon our genes, sure,
and upon our heredity, and a lot of it depends
upon exposure to chemicals in our environment, to exposure to
cigarette smoke. But you have many people who are extremely
healthy and who've done all the right things their entire
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life and who developed cancers for reasons that are unknown,
and it's still one of the great mysteries in the
world of cancer research.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
When doing any research for cancer, or as well as
the great work that is done by the medical profession
around the world and helping those with cancer overcome or
best as they can cope with cancer, what percentage of
patience doctor would you say experience complications and what are
the major complications that they would face.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, I would say that the overwhelm helming majority of
people who develop cancers other than very superficial skin cancers,
developed some complications of the cancer. If a cancer is
superficial or is easily treated by surgery, then often there
are no complications at all. But if the cancer is
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at a stage where it becomes difficult to treat or
difficult to cure, or if cure is no longer possible,
then the overwhelming majority of people will have some form
of complication of the cancer at some point the over
the coming months or years.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
What is the most common serious complication of cancer treatment.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Well, of cancer treatment itself, the most common complication is
suppression of the bone marrow, and when the bone marrow
is suppressed, the bone marrow is responsible for producing the
white blood cells that fight infections and the platelets that
allow our blood to club to clock properly, and as
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well produce the red blood cells that bring oxygen to
our tissues. So when white blood cells are diminished, a
person's very prone to getting infections in particular, and that's
one of the most serious complications of cancer treatment.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know, we've talked to people over the years who
believe there's a conspiracy with big Pharma, and you know,
Big farm is actually dragging their legs in order to
find a cure for cancer. Because once there's a cure
for cancer, then there's a lot of money that's lost.
How do you react to those kinds of statements.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Doctor Well, Having been in the pharmaceutical industry for many
years and working with so many very dedicated, very serious scientists,
I can just say that it's just absolutely not true.
People working very hard to find some treatment for cancer.
Because all of us are human. Half half of us
in the pharmaceutical industry will ourselves die of cancer. Almost
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all of us will have somebody close to us who
who either dies of cancer or suffers with cancer. People
are trying very, very hard to find some treatment for cancer.
It's just that it's a very, very difficult not to crack.
It's very complicated science. Our tools are not sharp enough
to yet uncover all the mysteries of cancer. It's very difficult.
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That there are a lot of very smart, very dedicated
people working on.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
This is cancer research getting the appropriate funding.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh, I wish it had more funding. We could always
use more funding from the federal government at the NIH
level for what's called basic research, and pharmaceutical companies also
could use more money to do the research. It's research
to find cancer treatment is extremely expensive, not only in
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the basic research that goes on in the laboratory, but
also the clinical testing which we must do to determine
whether drug is safe and effective.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Now before a drug actually gets on the market, that
the medical profession can use. How long does it take
from the time you, as a biotechnol bioscientists start on
a project to the time it gets into what I
believe is called trials.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yes, well, usually it takes three to five years between
the time somebody has a laboratory idea for something that
may work and the time until it's actually first tested
in a person. The reason for this is first we
have to validate the science. Then you have to do
the appropriate testing to make sure that this is safe
to put into human beings. And then you have to
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go to the ethics committees and to the FDA or
in Canada, the HPB, which is the equivalent of the FDA,
so that the ethics can be reviewed, so that the
science could be reviewed, so that the safety of the
people that are going to be treated with this can
be reasonably assured, and so that usually takes a good
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three to five years. And then the clinical testing itself
of the drug, depending on how fact of the drug
turns out to be, will usually be another four to
six years or in that range.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
My gosh. And of course this is a very costly,
very costly procedure.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It is extremely costly and can cost, depending on the drug,
hundreds of millions or even over a billion dollars to
develop a new drug.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
How close, doctor, in your most modest opinion, are we
to actually finding a cure for cancer or is the
actual finding of the cure being made so difficult by
them many different types of cancers.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yes, I don't know that we're going to ever find
a cure for all cancer. It's possible, but it looks
as though every cancer has its own unique fingerprint. Every
cancer seems to be different, and there probably will be
many different treatments for the many different types of cancer,
But unfortunately we've cured very few cancers at this point
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in time. We can surgically cure colon cancer and prostate
cancer and many other cancers as so surgical cures are
certainly possible, but once something is surgically not curable, finding
cures has been rather elusive and right now, the major
curable cancers are leukeinias and lymphomas, and a few other
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uncommon cancers are sometimes curable, but the most common cancers
lung cancer, breast cancer, stomach cancer, pancreatic cancer. Once those
are no longer surgically curable, they're very difficult to cure
with existing therapies.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
We see on TV commercials for an alternative health center
that says, you know, basically, if they listen, if the
established medical community can't cure you, we can or come
over and see us. Is there a lot of competition
in the cancer the fight for cancer industry, within the
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medical community itself.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, many many people will seek an alternative when they're
told by their traditional physicians that a treatment treatments are
no longer available that will be significantly effective, and it
certainly is understandable to seek those alternatives. The problem is
that many of those alternatives are really untested, and when
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you look beneath the surface of those alternatives, they often
have people with very suspect credentials and often charging a
very large amount of money. This is why an important
alternative people with treatments or diseases that are thought to
be somewhat treatable or poorly treatable, or defined reputabile clinical.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Trials ex oonation. Our guest to this hour is doctor
Stephen Garrett Marcus. His website is www. Dot Complications of
cancer dot com. That's www. Dot complications of cancer dot com.
Are the statistics that you see doctor showing that there
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is a definite spike in cancer and are people in
the younger age groups now also being diagnosed with cancer?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Well, many people in younger age groups are diagnosed with cancer,
it's difficult to say whether their numbers are are significantly increasing,
other than the increased risk of lung cancer as people
have started smoking at a much earlier age. And also
there are some cancers that may be related to what's
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called the human papeloma virus. It's actually transmitted virus that
also appear to be occurring at a somewhat younger age.
But overall, it's not entirely clear that people are getting
cancer at younger and younger ages unless they've been exposed
to some thing that causes that cancer.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
And I'm sure there's a lot more skin cancer coming
up with the you know, more and more people spending
time outside and really not taking care of their skinning,
playing the proper the appropriate preventative measures that could actually
help them.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yes, there is also a higher instance of melanoma in particular,
which is the most dangerous of skin cancers, as people
are exposed to more and more sun and also to
tanning beds.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Let's talk about tanning beds when we come back from
this commercial break with our news. Doctor Marcus, thanks very
much for being with us. It's very interesting talking to you, sir,
x O nation. My guess this hour is doctor Stephen
Garrett Marcus. He is the author of Complications of Cancer
www dot Complications of Cancer dot com. And we'll be
back on the other side of this commercial break with
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Speaker 3 (21:13):
Welcome back everyone, This is the excellent. My name is
Rob McConnell I. Guess this hour is doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus.
And doctor Marcus is the author of a book that
deals with cancer. And the question that we asked doctor
Marcus at the beginning of the show is can patients
fight cancer complications? The name of his book is Complications
of Cancer and his website is www dot Complications of
(21:38):
cancer dot com. Before we went to the break, doctor
we briefly touched on the different scenarios you know, with cancer,
and we talked very very briefly about tanning salons, and
I was wondering if you could tell us more about
how people get cancer at tanning salons. Is it because
the same the same ingredient through the same cause that
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would cause skin melanoma outside.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yes, it's basically the ultra violet type of radiation that
activates certain cells that are deep within the skin that
produces a substance called melanin. They're called melanocytes, and when
these cells are activated and you basically tickle their DNA,
they can cause the DNA to suddenly become abnormal and
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those cells that can begin to grow and multiply, and
when this happens, then they can turn into the malignant
melanoma cells. So exposure in exposure to tanning salons also
gives you a very concentrated dose of this harmful type
of vultra violet radiation.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I understand in some states and provinces they're actually issuing
health warnings and they're actually putting an age limit onto
the people who can actually go into these units.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yes, I think that's a very good idea. But if
someone does go to these units, then it's very important
that they see a dermatologist regularly so that their skin
can be very carefully examined from the top of their
head to the bottom of their feet to make sure
that none of these melanomas are growing, because at that point,
the best chance of curing a melanoma is by early
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identification in them, by removing the melanoma surgically.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You now, somebody's probably saying, all right, it's only a
small little dot, you know, who cares. But what are
the complications of a person who doesn't detect the small melanoma?
And how can it grow and how dangerous can it be?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Melanoma is one of the most dangerous of all the
cancers because it has a tendency to spread widely throughout
the body, especially melanoma's on the scalp for example, which people,
for example, who have bald heads and who are in
the sun quite a bit, should be particularly careful because
they often get melanomas on the scalp and those can
be extremely dangerous because those have tendency to spread to
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organs throughout the body, and so identifying them early and
removing them is the best is the best way of
preventing the severe complications of that deadly form of cancer.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Let me pitch this douc to you.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Doctor.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I'm sorry, it seems that we're having a bit of
of a sunburst over here. Well, let me ask you this,
all right, If melanoma is caused by radiation, basically, am
I correct?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
By ultrabile radiation, it's a major cause of it. Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Is it then possible that the microwave radiation that is
used in the cell phone industry can also cause cancer?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, that's been the subject of a lot of dispute
and a lot of research, and the major concern is
whether or not this increases the risk of malignant brain timors, because,
after all, you put a cell phone next to your ear,
and your ear is next to your brain, and so
there's been a major worry about whether or not this
can increase the risk of malignant brain tumors. It's not
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been said that it increases the risk of melanoma, but
there still remains at least some concern about a higher
risk of brain tumors. The most recent thinking though, is
that if there is an increased risk, it's a very
trivial one, but this still remains to be evaluated.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It's funny because when you pull into a gas station,
the first thing they tell you to do is to
shut off your cell phone. And when you get on
an aircraft, it affects the aircraft's avionics, so you're asked
to keep your cell phone or your your handheld device off.
When you go into a hospital, they ask you to
keep your your handheld device off. Is this just a
precaution for cross technology purposes or is there more to
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it than meets the eye.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
The major concern is just interfering with other devices, at
least in the hospital setting, with other devices in the hospital.
I guess in an aircraft, it's interfering with the aircraft
whatever is in the aircraft avionics?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
How is how is the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry,
And of course you people in research who God bless you.
My hat's off to you for all the hard work
that you do. How are you preparing for the changing times?
For example, there's a lot more seniors coming. The baby
boomers are turning into seniors. Now, how is this going
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to affect the research and the actual production of any
pharmaceutical breakthrough that comes.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well, it's going to be a very big challenge because
we need new medications. The population is aging, and as
we are more successful in treating diseases and keeping people
alive long or even curing diseases, people live to get
yet more diseases, and in the end, the cost of
medical care continues to climb. And so the key is
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to do one's best to find more and more effective
therapies that not only can cure the disease, but they
can do so rather promptly, and by doing so, reduce
the overall cost of medical Here reduced the incidents of
hospitalizations and all the other ancillary costs associated with that.
But it is a very big challenge over the next
several years is developing cost effective medications that are that
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are effective and while at the same time that don't
strain the ability of the system to pay for them.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
In your opinion, sir, what is the best medical treatment
at this time for cancer?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Well, the best medical treatment when it's possible is always
surgical removal of the cancer. So if someone, for example,
has a small localized lung cancer which is surgically curable,
the best treatment for it will be is surgery. But
if the cancer is not curable, then every cancer is
its own story, and that's why in the book Complications
(27:44):
of Cancer, I talk talk in the beginning of the
book about the fifteen most common forms of cancer, so
that I give just a broad overview with a lot
of specific detail about the different cancers. This serves as
a foundation for understanding the many complications of cancer, which
I discuss later on in the book, which can cut
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across most of the major forms of cancer.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
What is the besides the melanimal What are some of
the signs or symptoms that one may have cancer or
does this all depend on going to your doctor on
a regular basis for regular checkups.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well, you know, many cancers are just not detectable until
they're rather advanced. Certainly, going to doctors for regular checkups
it can help, especially to prevent colon cancer. Colonoscopy or
sigmoidoscopy or testing the stool for blood it can certainly
identify colon cancer at an early stage. There's controversy about
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some other cancers as to how effective screening for cancer
really is. For example, there's controversy about the use of
CT scans or X rays for early detection of lung cancer.
There are no good detections for for ovrain cancer ADIT
early stages, or for pantcreatic cancer or stomach cancer. Those
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cancers are often difficult to pick up on a routine
physical examination.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
One six ten seven zero three five is the toll
free number here at the XON. Our guest this hour
is doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus. He's the author of To
Have Your Pencils and Paper Ready, Complications of Cancer, and
his website is www Dot Complications of Cancer dot com.
That's www dot Complications of Cancer dot com. There are
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the you know, there's there's the hospitals, and then there's
the hospice, and then they're, like I said, are there
are the other type of of institutions where they use
the bodymind, soul and spirit as well as traditional medicine
too to work with a cancer patient. Have you heard
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or have you seen or is there any evidence whatsoever
that this approach works better than the traditional medical procedures.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Sometimes they call those other procedures best supportive care, And
there have been clinical trials where they've evaluated for different
cancers best supportive care, which means basically non medical treatment
but other things such as nutrition and frame of mind
and spiritual support, and compared that with standard therapy or
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sometimes use that as an adjunct or something that's in
addition to standard therapy. And what usually is found is
that when added on to standard therapy, it can be
very useful. Now, of course, it depends on what type
of what type of so called alternative therapy there is.
There are many alternative therapies that themselves can have quite
(30:55):
a bit of toxicity. For example, years ago, it was
very common to give intensive high colonic enemies on a
frequent basis to people with cancer, and often all that
did was dehydrate and weakened people and had no benefit whatsoever.
So not all alternative therapy is effective, but as an
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adjunct to standard therapy. There is many of these forms
of therapy and found to be useful.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Is there a way that we can start knocking down
the number of people who contract cancer, you know, without
having to depend on the medical research that's going on
in the pharmaceutical industry. Is there something that John Q
public can do or try and get their governments to do.
(31:44):
We talked briefly about the cigarette problems, and you know,
the human rights, but what about the people who suffer
from the human the secondhand smoke of these smokers who
are infringing on their rights.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, there are many clinical trials that are in progressive
things which are called chemopreventive agents, which means medicines or
vitamins that might prevent cancer and people who are exposed
to cancer causing agents such as secondhand smoke. And so
far nothing really stands out as preventive. But the only
(32:18):
thing that one can say is that just looking back
over broad populations, what we know is that people who
eat more fruits and vegetables, in some particular fruits such
as blueberries and strawberries and raspberries, and people who eat
a lot of green leafy vegetables seem to have a
lower incidence of cancer, and they probably do have some
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preventive effect in people who are otherwise exposed to cancer
causing agents such as second hand smoke.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
In your opinion, what are some of these steps that
listeners can do to better their chances to prevent cancer?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I think at first is to restrict calories. By restricting calories,
I don't mean something to an extraordinary extent, but not
eating to access to the point of becoming obese, because
obesity is clearly associated with an increased risk of cancer.
And then cutting back somewhat on not only on red meat,
(33:20):
but also on highly processed red meats and on barbecued
meats that can decrease the risk and increase in the
intake of green leafy vegetables and fresh fruits.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Are we talking about barbecued meats that are charred or
are we talking about barbecue meats that are even seared
using the new propane propane units that have no charcoal.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, it's primarily charred meats, primarily charred food.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Jeez. I wonder if if over time there's been a
study done to see if there are a number of
firefighters who have come down with lung cancer because of
all the smoke that they eat.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's a good question. I don't by the answer.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Doctor, Our time is nearly up here. Could you give
our listeners an idea on how they can get a
copy of your book?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yes, sir, they can go on to my website which
is www dot Complications of Cancer dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And of course, our guest this our x oonation has
been doctor Stephen Garrett Marcus, MD, and he is the
author of Complications of Cancer www dot Complications of Cancer
dot com. Doctor, I want to thank you so much
for joining us. It's been a great pleasure talking to you,
and I wish you success in the future. And thank
you for all the great work that you and other
researchers and doctors around the world are doing to help
(34:39):
eradicate this awful disease. Thank you take care of having me.
There we go x oonation once again, can patients fight
cancer complications? Well, my guess this hour has been Steven
Garrett Marcus, MD. He received his medical degree from New
York Medical College and completed a medical oncology fellowship at
(35:00):
the University of California in San Francisco as a senior
research executive in the biotechnology and pharmaceutical industry since nineteen
eighty five. He played a lead role in developing beta
seron as the first effective treatment of multiple sclerosis, and
has led multinational research teams for other treatments. Doctor Marcus
(35:22):
is the president and CEO of a biotechnology company developing
new treatments for cancer and other life threatening illnesses and diseases.
Once again. The name of his book is Complications of
Cancer and his website is www dot Complications of Cancer
dot com. Now I'll be back on the other side
(35:43):
of this commercial break, and when we come back, we're
going to be talking about Article three sixty five of
the Criminal Code of Canada, which states doing psychic readings
for a consideration is against the law in Canada. My
name is Rob McConnell. This is the ex on. I'll
be back on the other side of this break. So
(36:04):
whatever you do, do not, I mean do not go away.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh so.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Fortun fortune.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
For sheep Sellen Caen.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
You see what my future is going to be?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Geniousy it tall in your crystal ball?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Have you got a dream for me?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
For che Sellen.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
As she waited, just pull me.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Wo it out and welcome back everyone. Jeez, we started
this set off with Bobby Kurtola singing Fortune Teller and
then went right into Queen another one bites of the dust.
That is because we here at the X Zone Radio show,
we're going to be scrubbing all psychics, We're going to
be scrubbing all clairvoyants, mediums. We're even going to to
(37:55):
lift the We're going to have to stop having those
who talk about witchcraft and sorcery on the show. Because,
according to Article three sixty five of the Criminal Code
of Canada, and this is right out of the law books,
everyone who fraudulently a pretends to exercise or to use
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any kind of witchcraft's sorcery, enchantment or conjuration b undertakes
for a consideration to tell fortunes, or c pretends from
his skill in or knowledge of an occult or crafty
science to discover where, or in what manner anything that
is supposed to have been stolen or lost may be found,
(38:38):
is guilty of an offense punishable upon summary conviction. Basically,
what this means is that anybody, and this is our interpretation,
anybody who tells fortunes or gives psychic readings and is
paid by you, the listener, you, John Q Public, you
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a citizen of Canada. They are breaking the law whether
they are sitting in front of you at a psychic fair,
whether they are on your telephone, or whether they are
doing it over the internet. The Canadian Criminal Code of
Canada is very clear and specific, and Article three sixty
(39:26):
five states everyone who fraudulently pretends to exercise or to
use any kind of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment or conjuration b
undertakes for consideration to tell fortunes. Now, I just like
to introjectory for consideration means money, anything, property, whatever. The
(39:48):
person who's giving you the reading, you supply them with
something for that reading. That's consideration. Or see pretends from
his skill in ornuledge of an occult or crafty science
to discover where or in what man or anything that
is supposed to have been stolen or lost may be found,
is guilty of an offense punishable on summary conviction. For
(40:13):
that reason, we here at the X Zone will not
be having any more psychics on the show. I know
there's a lot of people who say oh boo hoo hoo.
You know too bad. If you want help, seek professional
help from a legal source. All the years we've had
psychics on the show, there's not very many that I
(40:36):
can remember that have actually come up with anything that
is true. If they all have major egos which are
fed by your money. I'll be back on the other
side of this commercial break with the news as the
Xone continues from our Psychic Free studios in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
(40:57):
My name is Rob McConnell. If you'd like to comment
on our ban on psychics, send me an email xpone
at xon Radio TV dot com. I'll be back on
the other side of the news. No, not with the
Psychic here in the X Zone.
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