Dr Bramhall is a 62 year old child and adolescent psychiatrist who was born in Milwaukee and graduated from Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. She became radicalized in her early thirties, owing in part to the extreme hardship of balancing a medical career with single motherhood, and in part to a growing awareness that her clients' difficulties stemmed from profound economic and social deprivation that she was helpless to address with psychiatric treatment. Most of her activism has focused on the 20 year movement to create a national single payer health care system in the US. Prior to emigrating to New Zealand in 2002, she was a private practice psychiatrist in Seattle for 20 years, and before that in Chico, California for five years. She currently resides in New Plymouth and for the last eight years has worked, as a psychiatrist, for the New Zealand National Health Service. She is also on the National Executive of the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand. She is single and has one daughter, a PhD candidate in the Health Sciences Technology Program at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. - http://stuartbramhall.aegauthorblogs.com
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Speaker 4 (06:35):
And welcome back everyone. Doctor Stuart Gene Bramhall as our
special guest. She is the author of the most Revolutionary
Act Memoir of an American Refugee. Her website is www
dot Stuart Bramhaul dot com. First of all, doctor, welcome
to the x own. It's great having you with us
all the way from New Plymouth, New Zealand here. And
I was wondering if you could explain to us the
(06:57):
subtitle of your book, Memoir of an Americamerican Refugee.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, it's my feeling that I'm here in New Zealand
for the last eight years, mainly for political reasons. It
has a lot to do with economic changes that have
happened in the United States with the War on Terrorism.
(07:27):
That really caused a lot of cutbacks to actually forty
nine of the fifty states, and it really affected me
because I saw a lot of low income, mentally ill
people who were getting their health care paid for through
Medicaid and Medicare, and that was basically cut off with
(07:48):
the War on Terrorism. So that's a big part of
my immediate decision to come here. I also went through
a long period start in nineteen eighty seven, where I
was experiencing some personal harassment by the US government for
(08:10):
my political activities, and that is basically the subject of
my book, The Most Revolutionary.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
If you don't mind me asking doctor, what was some
of the harassment that you were subjected to by the government.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, it started as really really intense phone harassment. At first.
I was getting about fifteen calls a day, and these
would be hang up calls and wrong numbers where people
would giggle and hang up. There would be obscene phone calls.
(08:45):
There would be calls from people that weren't direct death threats,
but they were continually trying to sell me burial plants
and funeral insurance, and so it was really very clear
implied threat.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Why would the government, Why would the government stoop so
low into doing that to a citizen?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I don't know. I can't answer a lot of
these questions. And this is one reason why I postponed
in writing my memoir for twenty years, because I was
trying to figure out exactly who was doing this and
why they were doing that. The best explanation I could
come up with is that it started immediately after I
(09:30):
became involved in working with two former Black Panthers who
were trying to They had occupied a school to transform
it into an African American heritage museum, and as a
psychiatrist with money and social status, I was helping them,
(09:52):
and apparently that was really perceived as a threat and
it's my belief that that's why.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
It started so much for democracy.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, I I've read everything I could on this subject,
and I wore Churchill in the co Intel prop Papers
has written about how the the FBI did the same
thing to the movie actress Gene Simmons when she was
giving financial support to the Black Panthers, that he just
(10:23):
really harassed her to death, you know, with the same
kind of phone harassment. And because she was the very
public figure he would what he did is he would
get all these gossip columnists to put rumors in their
in their columns, and there, you know, Hoover had spread
(10:43):
this rumor that actually she was pregnant by one of
the Black Panthers, and both Simmons and her and her
husband ended up committing suicide as a result of result
of it. Because it's really quite brutal what they were
put through. And so that that is the sumption that
I made it, that it was directed towards.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That Isn't it really unusual for a chance psychiatrist to
be so radical?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Uh No, I don't. I don't really think so. I
think the problem we have in the United States is
that the left is virtually invisible because they really they're
really strongly censored in the press. When you do read
(11:32):
about coverage of various kind of protests or issues that
the left take on. There they're really made out to
be radical kooks basically if they you know, usually they're
just ignored. Recently, I think I think his name is Gibbs.
(11:53):
He's one of Obama's spokespeople, and he has said that
we're all on drugs. He's just said that in the
in the last week or so, because basically it's over
this dispute we're having with the Obama administration over his
health care program, and he's basically saying that we're all
on drugs and we won't be happy until we have
(12:13):
a Canadian style healthcare system. So that makes it very
hard for people to come forward as leftists. But there
really is a lot going on in the United States.
I mean, there's more than a million people who are
very active, you know, you know, mainly at the community level,
but to some extent at the national level, trying to
(12:35):
bring about genuine change in the United States. Because people
don't see it, they just assume that it's not happening.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So tell me, doctor, what was your motivation in writing
The Most Revolutionary Act.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh well, initially I was really pissed off. I was
really quite angry because it was quite frightening what had
been what had been done, what had been done to me.
And then there was a number of best sellers that
came out by Greg Pallaced and Tiply and a number
(13:19):
of others, really showing that what they're called now is
called state crimes against democracy, that the US government was,
especially in their Intelligence and Security Service, was really involved
in a lot of critical activity. And I would see
all these people buying these best selling books and I thought, oh,
(13:40):
oh good, you know, people are going to finally get involved,
they're going to get organized, they're going to do something.
But it didn't. It didn't happen. You know. In fact,
Naomi Wolf talks about something called outrage fatigue, where people
just to hear all this stuff and it becomes so
overwhelming that they've figured they can't do anything about it.
(14:01):
And I thought, well, you know, you know, maybe if
it was more you know, personal and as a memoir,
that it would it would be a way to show
people that the left is out is out here, and
that people do organize and in some way to make
(14:22):
us less invisible.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know, some of the occurrences you describe in your
book seem pretty far fetched. How do most people react
And do they accuse you of being paranoid?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh? Yeah, they do. And when when it first started happening,
I was, I was really paranoid. I had a couple
of instances where people tried to run me down with
their with their car, and that made me really scared.
That's really it's really hard to figure out how to
deal with that kind of thing. And when you're bombarded
(14:55):
with so many calls, and then I had people stocking me,
and I had people stealing my mail, and I had
people breaking in, you get into a state of mind
that if anything bad happens to you, you want to
attribute it to whoever it is that's doing all of
this stuff. And what I did back in nineteen eighty
(15:21):
eight is I started actually keeping a log of every
time something happened that I thought might be attributed to
whoever these people were, I would write it down, write
down the people involved, and that way I began to
see a pattern, whether it was real or if it
was just bad luck or just a coincidence. But there's
no question. I was really paranoid when it first when
(15:45):
it first started, doctor.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Did you go ahead?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I can't explain. I can't explain who's doing it, okay,
or why they're doing it, or why it would continue.
Now I haven't had the problem at all since I've
been to New Zealand. You know. I continued to get
these prank phone calls and hang up calls until the
(16:09):
week I left board in New Zealand. But it's not
happening here, and in my mind, that tells me that
I'm not I'm not paranoid. There was definitely something going
on when I was living in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Did you ever go to the police or other law
enforcement agencies and if so, what did they say?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, I did, The police are really not a uniform force.
I worked with one detective in in homicide because I
I had this situation where I had three patients who
(16:45):
were labor activists who died under very suspicious circumstances, and
I felt the evidence was really clear that they had
been murdered, and so I did work with him on
that Rather than my own, my own specific issue, I
worked with another individual and the police who felt that
(17:08):
the harassment I was experiencing was related to some research
that I was doing in AIDS and about AIDS and HIV.
This is back in the nineteen eighties, right, and he
told me to quit doing that. He said that that
was very dangerous and that I should stay away from it.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
All right, doctor, doctor, you and I have to take
a commercial break. I hate to interrupt you because I
know how important the story is, and we will get
back to a doctor as soon as we get back
from the news break. Please stend by, and thank you
very much for joining us. It's a great pleasure talking
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Doctor Steward Bramhall is our special guest www dot stored
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Bramhall dot com. That's s t U AR T b
R A M H A l L dot com and
doctor Bramhell is the author of the Most Revolutionary Act,
Memoir of an American Refugee and doctor. Before we went
to the commercial break, we were talking about how some
of the occurrences that you described in your book seem
(20:07):
pretty far fetched, and I was asking you about how
most people react and have you ever been accused of
being paranoid? And you told us how you started chronicling
all these all these different events and you know sure
enough this wasn't you being paranoid, and that you went
to law enforcement and basically they did.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But Gus, well, you could, you could pay twenty five
dollars to go to the Seattle Police and have them
put a trap on on your phone in order to
find out the phone numbers these were coming from. And
I also I also tried that, but then it's the
discretion of the police whether they want to give you
(20:50):
the information that they come up with. So we we
tried that. And see the problem is is I was
also involved in a in a sit in at the
University of Washington, and that was when they when I
would when the phone harassment became most intense, and UH,
(21:14):
I was, I was what what what had happened is
the police, uh basically started beating up on one of
the demonstrators and then they arrested him, which is kind
of a common pattern in Seattle, is that police beat
up on you, then they arrest you.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
And so so let me get this straight. What they
do is they they they get you for resisting arrest
before you're even arrested, right And.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And I basically myself and one of the other demonstrators
we stood in the doorway to basically block the block
the officers who were trying to drag this guy outside
to the patrol car. And uh, as a result, I
(22:04):
had my pa my picture on the front page of
the Seattle Post Intelegencer, and I was charged for obstruct
obstructing a peace officer. So when the phone harassment first started,
I assumed that the police were were part of it,
and that the harassment was just coming from the police,
(22:26):
because there were there were other members of the African
American community that this happened to when they were involved
in demonstrations and they actually fought these charges of being
resisting arrests. What what what we did. I worked for
Mothers Against Police Harassment for a long period of time,
and what typically happened is we would get the charges
(22:47):
dropped and then we would sue the police and we
would usually win. And so what would happen is there
would be a lot of phone harassment. During that time.
I had a lot of clients who had phone harassment,
and there were other people I worked with in Mothers
Against Police Harassment who had it. So I just thought
(23:08):
it was the Seattle police who were harassing me. So
it didn't really surprise me that they weren't going to
tell me who was making these calls. After I started
having my male stolen and had a lot of people
stalking me and then I had the thing that really
(23:29):
bothered me is that I would have people come to
my office who would pose as patients that clearly weren't patients.
And that put me in a real bund because as
a doctor, I have a certain duty of care and
if I just terminate a patient, I can be sued
for abandonment. So it always put me in a real
(23:51):
difficult situation when when it was really clear these people
were making their symptoms up and had some kind of
agenda in seeing me, I thought, well, this is I
don't think that the Seattle police are big enough to
organize something like this.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It was my impression that was there had to be
some kind of national security agency involved, And at that time,
the only two I knew of were the FBI and CIA.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You know, I later learned that in nineteen eighty seven
there were about twelve federal agencies. I never even heard
of the National Security Agency and there was defense. There
were twelve of them that spot spied on American citizens,
but I didn't know it at that time. Plus the
fact they were also using a number of private contractors
(24:46):
even then, so it's very very likely that they paid
some private contractor to make all these phone calls and
to follow me. So I really began to the sense
that it went much further than the than the than
the police go ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I'm so. I was just going to say, there's a
lot of liberals and progressives that are really critical of
so called conspiracy theories for wasting time and energy trying
to prove conspiracies they won't ever be able to prove.
Now when should uh when they should be fighting much
more serious problems such as the war in the Middle East,
(25:28):
on civil liberties at home. What is your take on
this thing, on this entire scenario, do you think I
have I'm going to answer this question based because based
on what we of what we've said, it's it's my
belief that you believe that there are conspiracies against the
(25:51):
citizens of the United States that are being perpetrated by
its very own government.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, and I I really am. I'm really grateful to
Project censored because it's my understanding that they now they
don't call it conspiracies anymore. It's called a SCAD or
a state crime against democracy, and I think it's more
helpful to refer it to it that way because that
(26:18):
accepts the reality that the government does do these kind
of things. And I agree with liberals and progressives who
say we have to be really careful not to spend
too much time trying to research these things and prove
(26:38):
that they really happened. I think, you know, we're never
going to see the truth about scads on the six
o'clock news. I think we think we really have to
accept that, and Obama is not going to get up
and admit from the White House Law and that these
things are happening. I think we need to accept that.
I think there is some importance in creating historical record,
(27:01):
and that's why I think that a lot of the
academics and journalists who research these scads and document them
and publish them on the internet, I think what they're
doing is they're creating an alternative history, you know, so
for our children and our grandchildren, there will be a
written record that this really happened. We don't have to
(27:23):
accept the official government or corporate history anymore. We can
create our own history. But I you know, as for myself,
I feel it is more important to continue to be
involved in grassroots activities rather than spending a lot of
time researching research and conspiracies.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Possible that President Obama may not actually be aware of
the of the the misuse of justice that is being
perpetrated against citizens of the United States, That he may
in fact be oblivious to all this, and that it's
the handlers or the real power behind the government that
(28:07):
is actually doing this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yes and no, there is a real power behind the government,
and Obama knows exactly who it is, and I think
he has limited power to do anything about it.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Tell me about the Department of Defense having created HIV AIDS.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, I was told. I was told to stop my
AIDS research in nineteen eighty seven by one of the
police officers who came out to my home after one
of the break ins, and I was told the same
by one of the health editors one of the minority newspapers. Now,
my research into AIDS was didn't concern the origin of
(28:54):
the AIDS virus. It concerned a novel treatment. I don't
know if you've ever heard of the drug Tagament. It's
an ulcer drug that's really incredibly cheap, and there was
this guy in East Germany that was doing some research
using tagament and very early HIV infection, and absolutely no
(29:15):
one was doing this research in the United States. Instead,
they were promoting this AZT which was this new drug
that costs two thousand dollars a month. And I just
could not figure this out. Why are they only researching
a drug that costs two thousand dollars a month when
when you can give somebody with early HIV tagamat for
(29:36):
twenty five dollars a month and keep them from developing
full blown infection. I think what happened is after I
was involved in this sit in that somebody started tapping
my phone and they heard me making a bunch of
calls to all these reporters about AIDS, and they assumed
that I was trying to promote information about the origin
(29:59):
of AIDS. I wasn't. It was about AIDS treatment. But
I think that was responsible for some of the harassment,
as there was a misunderstanding about what I was actually doing.
I didn't find out about the Department of Defense role
in the origin of HIV until much later. It was
actually in the nineteen nineties that I found out about it. Now,
(30:22):
the way I found out is that during this time
that people were trying to run me over with their car,
there were a couple of people in Illinois who died.
One was Ted Strecker. I don't know if you've ever
heard of the Streker Memorandum.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yes I have.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, he died in early nineteen eighty eight under very
suspicious circumstances with a shotgun wound to his head, and
his brother, who was a doctor, swore up and down
to the police that the I wasn't suicidal. He was
(31:01):
looking forward to his next TV interview. But you know,
as often happens in these cases as they're not investigated.
And I know of one particular instance where one of
my patients where the murder wasn't investigated because the Postal Inspectors,
which is actually one of an intelligent security operation, they
(31:22):
came in and they seized the whole evidence about from
the Seattle police and it went down a black hole,
you know. So it's hard to say it's not always
the fault of the police that these murders aren't investigated.
The other person who died in nineteen eighty eight was
Douglas Hoff, who was a legislator in the Illinois State
Legislature with Illinois State Legislature. He supposedly died of a
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heroin overdose, which seems very unlikely, particularly since it's rather
hard to die of a heroin overdose.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Doctor.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
In your book, you describe yourself as being admitted to
a psyche atric hospital as a victim of some kind
of mind control experiment. Now, what makes you so sure
it just wasn't a psychotic episode?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well, I saw a psychologist after I left the hospital
who was actually a VA psychologist who had a veterans
administration psychologist who had a private practice, and he worked
a lot with veterans who were in Cambodia when it
(32:32):
was illegal to be in Cambodia. That put a lot
of our American troops in a very difficult situation because
they when they returned to the United States, those people
used to get regular threats from the CIA would come
and see them and basically threaten them and threaten their
families if they talked about any of their experiences in Cambodia.
(32:56):
And he'd worked with those people, and it was his
feeling that I did have some really strange experiences in
nineteen eighty seven that resulted me in my hospitalization, but
he felt they were due to post traumatic stress disorder.
And I'm sure you've heard of that, right, sure, Yeah,
(33:18):
And he felt he was also really concerned about a
relationship I had with an African American man who he
really felt was what would you call an undercover operated
who was really really playing mind games with me and
(33:38):
was responsible for a lot of the strange things that
were happening that were a little bit like a dissociative
episode that you get with PTSD. Do you know what
a dissociative episode is?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
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can people do too to try and expose what is
going on and how certain citizens in the United States
are are being harassed and targeted by the very government
that is supposed to protect them.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, I don't think that they. I think I think
that that's really covered right now. As far as you know,
Alex Jones is doing some great great stuff and a
lot of authors are coming out with best selling books.
As far as how this is going on, I think
(37:42):
that right now, especially with the economic collapse, that what
people need to do is to to basically organize, uh,
so that they're not totally controlled by the government and
(38:03):
by the corporations that seem to have total control over
the government. And I've come to the belief that it
doesn't really matter what your politics are. It doesn't matter
whether you're conservative or whether you're progressive, or whether you're leftists,
and it's not even important to join a political group.
(38:24):
I think that there's a lot of really valuable community
organizing that's going on right now. So if you just
want to go next door and see your neighbor and
organize your street or organize your block, because I don't
think the economy is going to get better, and so
(38:48):
you know, we all need really really individual lives right now.
And I think the solution is for people to get
more civically involved in community involved. And I can give
some suggestions, you know, if you think that would be
worth one sure.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
We've got about one minute.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think that people should organize for the economy getting worse,
and just to call a meeting in their neighborhood and
have one person organized the generators, and one person organized
the wood, and one person organized the water, and one
person to look after the senior citizens and make sure
(39:30):
their gas is turned off. I think that's a very
important form of organizing, and I think the moment that
people get together and do something as a group, they
begin to have some voice that stands out in opposition
to the government and to the major corporations.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Doctor, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
Has been a great pleasure talking to you. Where can
people get copies of your book, Well, the best thing.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Is to go to my website at Stewart Bramhall dot com.
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Speaker 4 (06:35):
And welcome back everyone. Doctor Stuart Gene Bramhall as our
special guest. She is the author of the most Revolutionary
Act Memoir of an American Refugee. Her website is www
dot Stuart Bramhaul dot com. First of all, doctor, welcome
to the x own. It's great having you with us
all the way from New Plymouth, New Zealand here. And
I was wondering if you could explain to us the
(06:57):
subtitle of your book, Memoir of an Americamerican Refugee.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, it's my feeling that I'm here in New Zealand
for the last eight years, mainly for political reasons. It
has a lot to do with economic changes that have
happened in the United States with the War on Terrorism.
(07:27):
That really caused a lot of cutbacks to actually forty
nine of the fifty states, and it really affected me
because I saw a lot of low income, mentally ill
people who were getting their health care paid for through
Medicaid and Medicare, and that was basically cut off with
(07:48):
the War on Terrorism. So that's a big part of
my immediate decision to come here. I also went through
a long period start in nineteen eighty seven, where I
was experiencing some personal harassment by the US government for
(08:10):
my political activities, and that is basically the subject of
my book, The Most Revolutionary.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
If you don't mind me asking doctor, what was some
of the harassment that you were subjected to by the government.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, it started as really really intense phone harassment. At first.
I was getting about fifteen calls a day, and these
would be hang up calls and wrong numbers where people
would giggle and hang up. There would be obscene phone calls.
(08:45):
There would be calls from people that weren't direct death threats,
but they were continually trying to sell me burial plants
and funeral insurance, and so it was really very clear
implied threat.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Why would the government, Why would the government stoop so
low into doing that to a citizen?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I don't know. I can't answer a lot of
these questions. And this is one reason why I postponed
in writing my memoir for twenty years, because I was
trying to figure out exactly who was doing this and
why they were doing that. The best explanation I could
come up with is that it started immediately after I
(09:30):
became involved in working with two former Black Panthers who
were trying to They had occupied a school to transform
it into an African American heritage museum, and as a
psychiatrist with money and social status, I was helping them,
(09:52):
and apparently that was really perceived as a threat and
it's my belief that that's why.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
It started so much for democracy.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, I I've read everything I could on this subject,
and I wore Churchill in the co Intel prop Papers
has written about how the the FBI did the same
thing to the movie actress Gene Simmons when she was
giving financial support to the Black Panthers, that he just
(10:23):
really harassed her to death, you know, with the same
kind of phone harassment. And because she was the very
public figure he would what he did is he would
get all these gossip columnists to put rumors in their
in their columns, and there, you know, Hoover had spread
(10:43):
this rumor that actually she was pregnant by one of
the Black Panthers, and both Simmons and her and her
husband ended up committing suicide as a result of result
of it. Because it's really quite brutal what they were
put through. And so that that is the sumption that
I made it, that it was directed towards.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That Isn't it really unusual for a chance psychiatrist to
be so radical?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Uh No, I don't. I don't really think so. I
think the problem we have in the United States is
that the left is virtually invisible because they really they're
really strongly censored in the press. When you do read
(11:32):
about coverage of various kind of protests or issues that
the left take on. There they're really made out to
be radical kooks basically if they you know, usually they're
just ignored. Recently, I think I think his name is Gibbs.
(11:53):
He's one of Obama's spokespeople, and he has said that
we're all on drugs. He's just said that in the
in the last week or so, because basically it's over
this dispute we're having with the Obama administration over his
health care program, and he's basically saying that we're all
on drugs and we won't be happy until we have
(12:13):
a Canadian style healthcare system. So that makes it very
hard for people to come forward as leftists. But there
really is a lot going on in the United States.
I mean, there's more than a million people who are
very active, you know, you know, mainly at the community level,
but to some extent at the national level, trying to
(12:35):
bring about genuine change in the United States. Because people
don't see it, they just assume that it's not happening.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So tell me, doctor, what was your motivation in writing
The Most Revolutionary Act.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh well, initially I was really pissed off. I was
really quite angry because it was quite frightening what had
been what had been done, what had been done to me.
And then there was a number of best sellers that
came out by Greg Pallaced and Tiply and a number
(13:19):
of others, really showing that what they're called now is
called state crimes against democracy, that the US government was,
especially in their Intelligence and Security Service, was really involved
in a lot of critical activity. And I would see
all these people buying these best selling books and I thought, oh,
(13:40):
oh good, you know, people are going to finally get involved,
they're going to get organized, they're going to do something.
But it didn't. It didn't happen. You know. In fact,
Naomi Wolf talks about something called outrage fatigue, where people
just to hear all this stuff and it becomes so
overwhelming that they've figured they can't do anything about it.
(14:01):
And I thought, well, you know, you know, maybe if
it was more you know, personal and as a memoir,
that it would it would be a way to show
people that the left is out is out here, and
that people do organize and in some way to make
(14:22):
us less invisible.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know, some of the occurrences you describe in your
book seem pretty far fetched. How do most people react
And do they accuse you of being paranoid?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh? Yeah, they do. And when when it first started happening,
I was, I was really paranoid. I had a couple
of instances where people tried to run me down with
their with their car, and that made me really scared.
That's really it's really hard to figure out how to
deal with that kind of thing. And when you're bombarded
(14:55):
with so many calls, and then I had people stocking me,
and I had people stealing my mail, and I had
people breaking in, you get into a state of mind
that if anything bad happens to you, you want to
attribute it to whoever it is that's doing all of
this stuff. And what I did back in nineteen eighty
(15:21):
eight is I started actually keeping a log of every
time something happened that I thought might be attributed to
whoever these people were, I would write it down, write
down the people involved, and that way I began to
see a pattern, whether it was real or if it
was just bad luck or just a coincidence. But there's
no question. I was really paranoid when it first when
(15:45):
it first started, doctor.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Did you go ahead?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I can't explain. I can't explain who's doing it, okay,
or why they're doing it, or why it would continue.
Now I haven't had the problem at all since I've
been to New Zealand. You know. I continued to get
these prank phone calls and hang up calls until the
(16:09):
week I left board in New Zealand. But it's not
happening here, and in my mind, that tells me that
I'm not I'm not paranoid. There was definitely something going
on when I was living in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Did you ever go to the police or other law
enforcement agencies and if so, what did they say?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, I did, The police are really not a uniform force.
I worked with one detective in in homicide because I
I had this situation where I had three patients who
(16:45):
were labor activists who died under very suspicious circumstances, and
I felt the evidence was really clear that they had
been murdered, and so I did work with him on
that Rather than my own, my own specific issue, I
worked with another individual and the police who felt that
(17:08):
the harassment I was experiencing was related to some research
that I was doing in AIDS and about AIDS and HIV.
This is back in the nineteen eighties, right, and he
told me to quit doing that. He said that that
was very dangerous and that I should stay away from it.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
All right, doctor, doctor, you and I have to take
a commercial break. I hate to interrupt you because I
know how important the story is, and we will get
back to a doctor as soon as we get back
from the news break. Please stend by, and thank you
very much for joining us. It's a great pleasure talking
to you, excel Nation. Our special guest is doctor Stuart
Bromhall www dot Stuart Bromhall dot com and doctor Bromhall
(17:48):
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an American Refugee and The Good Doctor. And I will
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Hi everyone, Rob McConnell here, and I wanted to spend
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The Internet streams just about everything, from new releases to
old classics, almost every show, every episode, and much more.
But the question has always been how do you do it? Well? Now,
(19:02):
thanks to the folks at one two three Ready TV,
I have the answer for you. They have developed a
simple program app one two three Ready TV that you
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Doctor Steward Bramhall is our special guest www dot stored
(19:46):
Bramhall dot com. That's s t U AR T b
R A M H A l L dot com and
doctor Bramhell is the author of the Most Revolutionary Act,
Memoir of an American Refugee and doctor. Before we went
to the commercial break, we were talking about how some
of the occurrences that you described in your book seem
(20:07):
pretty far fetched, and I was asking you about how
most people react and have you ever been accused of
being paranoid? And you told us how you started chronicling
all these all these different events and you know sure
enough this wasn't you being paranoid, and that you went
to law enforcement and basically they did.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But Gus, well, you could, you could pay twenty five
dollars to go to the Seattle Police and have them
put a trap on on your phone in order to
find out the phone numbers these were coming from. And
I also I also tried that, but then it's the
discretion of the police whether they want to give you
(20:50):
the information that they come up with. So we we
tried that. And see the problem is is I was
also involved in a in a sit in at the
University of Washington, and that was when they when I
would when the phone harassment became most intense, and UH,
(21:14):
I was, I was what what what had happened is
the police, uh basically started beating up on one of
the demonstrators and then they arrested him, which is kind
of a common pattern in Seattle, is that police beat
up on you, then they arrest you.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
And so so let me get this straight. What they
do is they they they get you for resisting arrest
before you're even arrested, right And.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And I basically myself and one of the other demonstrators
we stood in the doorway to basically block the block
the officers who were trying to drag this guy outside
to the patrol car. And uh, as a result, I
(22:04):
had my pa my picture on the front page of
the Seattle Post Intelegencer, and I was charged for obstruct
obstructing a peace officer. So when the phone harassment first started,
I assumed that the police were were part of it,
and that the harassment was just coming from the police,
(22:26):
because there were there were other members of the African
American community that this happened to when they were involved
in demonstrations and they actually fought these charges of being
resisting arrests. What what what we did. I worked for
Mothers Against Police Harassment for a long period of time,
and what typically happened is we would get the charges
(22:47):
dropped and then we would sue the police and we
would usually win. And so what would happen is there
would be a lot of phone harassment. During that time.
I had a lot of clients who had phone harassment,
and there were other people I worked with in Mothers
Against Police Harassment who had it. So I just thought
(23:08):
it was the Seattle police who were harassing me. So
it didn't really surprise me that they weren't going to
tell me who was making these calls. After I started
having my male stolen and had a lot of people
stalking me and then I had the thing that really
(23:29):
bothered me is that I would have people come to
my office who would pose as patients that clearly weren't patients.
And that put me in a real bund because as
a doctor, I have a certain duty of care and
if I just terminate a patient, I can be sued
for abandonment. So it always put me in a real
(23:51):
difficult situation when when it was really clear these people
were making their symptoms up and had some kind of
agenda in seeing me, I thought, well, this is I
don't think that the Seattle police are big enough to
organize something like this.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It was my impression that was there had to be
some kind of national security agency involved, And at that time,
the only two I knew of were the FBI and CIA.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You know, I later learned that in nineteen eighty seven
there were about twelve federal agencies. I never even heard
of the National Security Agency and there was defense. There
were twelve of them that spot spied on American citizens,
but I didn't know it at that time. Plus the
fact they were also using a number of private contractors
(24:46):
even then, so it's very very likely that they paid
some private contractor to make all these phone calls and
to follow me. So I really began to the sense
that it went much further than the than the than
the police go ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I'm so. I was just going to say, there's a
lot of liberals and progressives that are really critical of
so called conspiracy theories for wasting time and energy trying
to prove conspiracies they won't ever be able to prove.
Now when should uh when they should be fighting much
more serious problems such as the war in the Middle East,
(25:28):
on civil liberties at home. What is your take on
this thing, on this entire scenario, do you think I
have I'm going to answer this question based because based
on what we of what we've said, it's it's my
belief that you believe that there are conspiracies against the
(25:51):
citizens of the United States that are being perpetrated by
its very own government.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, and I I really am. I'm really grateful to
Project censored because it's my understanding that they now they
don't call it conspiracies anymore. It's called a SCAD or
a state crime against democracy, and I think it's more
helpful to refer it to it that way because that
(26:18):
accepts the reality that the government does do these kind
of things. And I agree with liberals and progressives who
say we have to be really careful not to spend
too much time trying to research these things and prove
(26:38):
that they really happened. I think, you know, we're never
going to see the truth about scads on the six
o'clock news. I think we think we really have to
accept that, and Obama is not going to get up
and admit from the White House Law and that these
things are happening. I think we need to accept that.
I think there is some importance in creating historical record,
(27:01):
and that's why I think that a lot of the
academics and journalists who research these scads and document them
and publish them on the internet, I think what they're
doing is they're creating an alternative history, you know, so
for our children and our grandchildren, there will be a
written record that this really happened. We don't have to
(27:23):
accept the official government or corporate history anymore. We can
create our own history. But I you know, as for myself,
I feel it is more important to continue to be
involved in grassroots activities rather than spending a lot of
time researching research and conspiracies.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Possible that President Obama may not actually be aware of
the of the the misuse of justice that is being
perpetrated against citizens of the United States, That he may
in fact be oblivious to all this, and that it's
the handlers or the real power behind the government that
(28:07):
is actually doing this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yes and no, there is a real power behind the government,
and Obama knows exactly who it is, and I think
he has limited power to do anything about it.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Tell me about the Department of Defense having created HIV AIDS.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, I was told. I was told to stop my
AIDS research in nineteen eighty seven by one of the
police officers who came out to my home after one
of the break ins, and I was told the same
by one of the health editors one of the minority newspapers. Now,
my research into AIDS was didn't concern the origin of
(28:54):
the AIDS virus. It concerned a novel treatment. I don't
know if you've ever heard of the drug Tagament. It's
an ulcer drug that's really incredibly cheap, and there was
this guy in East Germany that was doing some research
using tagament and very early HIV infection, and absolutely no
(29:15):
one was doing this research in the United States. Instead,
they were promoting this AZT which was this new drug
that costs two thousand dollars a month. And I just
could not figure this out. Why are they only researching
a drug that costs two thousand dollars a month when
when you can give somebody with early HIV tagamat for
(29:36):
twenty five dollars a month and keep them from developing
full blown infection. I think what happened is after I
was involved in this sit in that somebody started tapping
my phone and they heard me making a bunch of
calls to all these reporters about AIDS, and they assumed
that I was trying to promote information about the origin
(29:59):
of AIDS. I wasn't. It was about AIDS treatment. But
I think that was responsible for some of the harassment,
as there was a misunderstanding about what I was actually doing.
I didn't find out about the Department of Defense role
in the origin of HIV until much later. It was
actually in the nineteen nineties that I found out about it. Now,
(30:22):
the way I found out is that during this time
that people were trying to run me over with their car,
there were a couple of people in Illinois who died.
One was Ted Strecker. I don't know if you've ever
heard of the Streker Memorandum.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yes I have.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, he died in early nineteen eighty eight under very
suspicious circumstances with a shotgun wound to his head, and
his brother, who was a doctor, swore up and down
to the police that the I wasn't suicidal. He was
(31:01):
looking forward to his next TV interview. But you know,
as often happens in these cases as they're not investigated.
And I know of one particular instance where one of
my patients where the murder wasn't investigated because the Postal Inspectors,
which is actually one of an intelligent security operation, they
(31:22):
came in and they seized the whole evidence about from
the Seattle police and it went down a black hole,
you know. So it's hard to say it's not always
the fault of the police that these murders aren't investigated.
The other person who died in nineteen eighty eight was
Douglas Hoff, who was a legislator in the Illinois State
Legislature with Illinois State Legislature. He supposedly died of a
(31:45):
heroin overdose, which seems very unlikely, particularly since it's rather
hard to die of a heroin overdose.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Doctor.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
In your book, you describe yourself as being admitted to
a psyche atric hospital as a victim of some kind
of mind control experiment. Now, what makes you so sure
it just wasn't a psychotic episode?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well, I saw a psychologist after I left the hospital
who was actually a VA psychologist who had a veterans
administration psychologist who had a private practice, and he worked
a lot with veterans who were in Cambodia when it
(32:32):
was illegal to be in Cambodia. That put a lot
of our American troops in a very difficult situation because
they when they returned to the United States, those people
used to get regular threats from the CIA would come
and see them and basically threaten them and threaten their
families if they talked about any of their experiences in Cambodia.
(32:56):
And he'd worked with those people, and it was his
feeling that I did have some really strange experiences in
nineteen eighty seven that resulted me in my hospitalization, but
he felt they were due to post traumatic stress disorder.
And I'm sure you've heard of that, right, sure, Yeah,
(33:18):
And he felt he was also really concerned about a
relationship I had with an African American man who he
really felt was what would you call an undercover operated
who was really really playing mind games with me and
(33:38):
was responsible for a lot of the strange things that
were happening that were a little bit like a dissociative
episode that you get with PTSD. Do you know what
a dissociative episode is?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
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Stewart Bramhall as our guest Stuart dot com doctor. What
(37:02):
can people do too to try and expose what is
going on and how certain citizens in the United States
are are being harassed and targeted by the very government
that is supposed to protect them.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, I don't think that they. I think I think
that that's really covered right now. As far as you know,
Alex Jones is doing some great great stuff and a
lot of authors are coming out with best selling books.
As far as how this is going on, I think
(37:42):
that right now, especially with the economic collapse, that what
people need to do is to to basically organize, uh,
so that they're not totally controlled by the government and
(38:03):
by the corporations that seem to have total control over
the government. And I've come to the belief that it
doesn't really matter what your politics are. It doesn't matter
whether you're conservative or whether you're progressive, or whether you're leftists,
and it's not even important to join a political group.
(38:24):
I think that there's a lot of really valuable community
organizing that's going on right now. So if you just
want to go next door and see your neighbor and
organize your street or organize your block, because I don't
think the economy is going to get better, and so
(38:48):
you know, we all need really really individual lives right now.
And I think the solution is for people to get
more civically involved in community involved. And I can give
some suggestions, you know, if you think that would be
worth one sure.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
We've got about one minute.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think that people should organize for the economy getting worse,
and just to call a meeting in their neighborhood and
have one person organized the generators, and one person organized
the wood, and one person organized the water, and one
person to look after the senior citizens and make sure
(39:30):
their gas is turned off. I think that's a very
important form of organizing, and I think the moment that
people get together and do something as a group, they
begin to have some voice that stands out in opposition
to the government and to the major corporations.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Doctor, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
Has been a great pleasure talking to you. Where can
people get copies of your book, Well, the best thing.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Is to go to my website at Stewart Bramhall dot com.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Doctor, take care of yourself. I look forward to the
next time you and I meet here in the X
xone X our nation. Doctor Stuart Bramhall has been my
special guest. Her website is Stuart Bramhall dot com. I'll
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(40:23):
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