November 27, 2025 • 56 mins
Tonight on The ‘X’ Zone, we step into one of the darkest and most misunderstood corners of the paranormal world — the realm of demonic oppression, spiritual warfare, and the battle between good and evil. My guest is Father Shawn Whittington, a highly respected exorcist, deliverance minister, paranormal investigator, and the founder of Ghost-B-Gone, one of the most trusted ministries dedicated to helping individuals and families who believe they are facing malevolent forces. With years of experience confronting hauntings, attachments, and full-blown possession cases, Father Shawn brings a rare combination of spiritual authority, deep compassion, disciplined training, and firsthand knowledge of the dangers lurking in the shadows. Tonight, he joins us to discuss his work, his faith, his most challenging cases, and what really happens when an exorcist steps onto the battlefield. This is one conversation you do not want to miss — so please welcome to The ‘X’ Zone… Father Shawn Whittington. - www.ghost-b-gone.biz
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All Hnri.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the X Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality.
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Now here's your host, Roberconnell.
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They whispered through Nova as chill as.
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The skies began to moan, and the crew looked north
through the gathering storm, far from their heart and home.
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Oh the lake lost golden, The night was black, and
the wind through her sill. She fought till her style
was cracked by the fury of Superior Star.
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Now the bell still tolls, where the.
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Water swelling, the ghost sleep breakers. Well the fo who
never came back from the wreck of the land, it's cheel.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
And welcome back everyone. Wow, the record of the Edmumphist
Jeralden still gives me shivers when I hear that song,
not only the song that we did, but also the
one by the late Great Gordon light Foot explanation. This
hour on the expone, we step into one of the
darkest and most misunderstood corners of the paranormal world. And
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that's the realm of demonic oppression, spiritual warfare, and the
battle between good and evil. My guest this hour is
Father Shawn Whittington, a highly respected exorcist, deliverance minister, paranormal investigator,
and founder of Ghost be Gone, one of the most
trusted mister ministries dedicated to helping individuals and families who
(02:32):
believe they are facing malevolent forces. With years of experience
confronting hauntings, attachment, and full blow in possession cases, Father
Shawn brings a rare combination of spiritual authority, deep compassion, discipline, training,
and first hand knowledge of the dangers of that are
lurking in the shadows. Tonight, he joins us to discuss
(02:54):
his work, his faith, his most challenging cases, and what
really happens when another exorcist steps onto the battlefield. This
is one conversation you will not want to miss. So
please welcome with me Father Shawn Whittington to the x
Z Own and Father Shawn, always great having you with us,
my friend. How are you?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
God bless you, brother, It's my pleasure. God bless you
for asking me back. And I always have a great
time here, and I know I tell you this every time,
but I just have to do it. You play, and
you're probably gonna play more in the next hour. But
you play such wonderful music on this show, on your show,
I have to ask you. I know you're a lifelong
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paranormal experiencer and enthusiast in your own right. You are
where you're at in Canada? Are you near any of
the Great Lakes?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Oh, we're right on the shores of Lake Ontario.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Here there you go. Do you I should know this.
Do you have any legends of like ghost ships?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Oh? My goodness, we're a right smack dab in the
middle of what's known as the Great Lakes Triangle. Really, yes,
there's ghost ships. Planes had vanished over the Great Lakes
and filled with Indian myth legends. Missus John Grave Simcoe,
the wife of the first governor of this province, saw
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great balls of fire in the sky flying in formation
years ago. Their stories, well, one of the stories that
we actually covered was the night the Edmund Fitzgerald sank
in Lake Superior under suspicious conditions. Strange occurrences happened all
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the way down the Niagara River. The animals at Marine Land,
which is in Niagara Falls, it's a major attraction. They
all got spooked by some invisible force and they bolted
out of their enclosures and they were found on the
Queen Elizabeth Highway, which is the main highway from Toronto
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into the US, and it's just filled. We have the
Screaming Tunnel where I used to do my show at
six' ten C, ktb the most haunted radio station In.
Canada we have stories of, specters you, know just going
down the streets In Niagara. Falls we have stories of
phantom horse carriages being driven by phantom, drivers filled with.
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Legends and one Day i'd love for you to come
on up here and let me take you. AROUND i have.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
To and you Mentioned Niagara. Falls so much, energy oh,
yeah you know produced. There, yeah just highly charged paranormal
activity throughout that whole neck of the. Regions BUT i
had never really heard of anybody talk about seeing ghost.
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Ships AND i just had somebody call me the other
day and they saw one off the coast of Either
North carolina Or South. Carolina But i've always been in
being a navy man, Myself i've always been intrigued by,
that AND i remember when the ship THAT i was
on we would be out at, sea sometimes three or
four months in a road just doing whatever they do out,
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there and you, KNOW i would get off watch and
they always THOUGHT i was weird THAT i would go
up to like the crow's. NEST i had it in
with the with the radio. SHACK i was a radio
man AND i had an in with the signa and
they let me go up to the crows nest And
i'd sit up there all night long with the, infrared you,
know night vision goggles on looking for, stuff and never
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saw a ghost. Ship BUT i always wondered with, that
what type of reaction that would get out of me
to see.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
That you, know, WELL i did not know you were
a member of the military and you were in The.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Navy, yeah, lot time go another lifetime.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Brother, WELL i want to thank you for your, service my.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Friend thank, You god bless.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You it's, well it's well, Appreciated Father sean for those
meeting you for the first time here and there. Song
what led you into the work of, deliverance spiritual warfare and, Exorcism.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Well That's i'm going to give you the same ANSWER
i give, everybody because it's the. TRUTH i got actually
drug into this line of, work kicking and, screaming literally
i'd ALREADY i was seeing spirit WHEN i was a young,
boy and SO i was an amateur ghostbuster at a
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very early, age probably around. Ten And i'm that weird
kid riding around on the bicycle with the you, know
the shwin with the basket on The hannah bars AND
i had a little hole right in there and huh.
Uh you, know back then you didn't have the little voiceover,
recorder so i had this, big clunky tape, recorder And
i'm riding around looking for every you, know abandoned looking
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LOCATION i can to go, in and you, know. HERBEXING
i guess that would be back then you would be called.
HERBEXING i really didn't know WHAT i was, doing had some,
scares but as time went, ON i got more and
more passionate about investigating paranormal occurrences in ghost hunting and ghost,
pusting if you, WILL i wish looking, BACK i WISH
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i had been more open about that passion because WHEN
i was, young that was a weird. Thing your friends
all thought you were a kook if you were into
that sort of, stuff and you, know you want to
have friends when you're, young SO i kind of kept
that a. Secret that was a secret passion of. MINE
i regret doing, that but, many many years LATER i
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SAW i met my. Wife we were set up on
a blind, date we didn't know, it and we hit it.
Off she was A stephen minister in The Lutheran church
and a psychic. Medium she doesn't like to call herself,
that so she will tell you, no but trust, me
she's a several times over near death experienced survivor and
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has come back from those experiences, with for lack of
a better, term a, gift if you. Will and so
we hit it off right, away and right away we
were honest with each other about our passion for the paranormal.
Field so we Started Ghost, begone and that's over twenty years,
ago and we were just your average you, know going
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on ghost, tours going attending para cons in paranormal, conferences
and helping people with their paranormal. Issues if someone reached
out to us for help residential and, commercial and we
worked a very ugly case. Together it was a coworker
(09:52):
of mine who said just recently. Married so she was
a newlywed AND i worked at the. TIME i spent
the last years before becoming an ordained priest a veterinary.
Technician so she was a coworker at this hospital THAT
i worked, at and she, said you need to come
over to my. HOUSE i don't want to discuss it
here at, work but you won't regret. It please come
(10:15):
AND i need your. Help so my wife AND i
went over, there and she was actually being, raped literally
by something she couldn't see at. Night it started just at,
night but then it progressed to daytime when she'd be
in the, shower when she'd be on the couch outside
on her porch having a, cigarette and then it started
(10:38):
to attack and rape her husband because he would try
to intervene in the attacks and stop, it and he
would come under. Attack they both went to the doctor for.
Exams he was SUFFERING i Hope i'm not going to
get too graphic, here but he was suffering like rectal
fissures from these Tax she was also suffering the same
(11:03):
type of physical ailments that a woman gets from being sexually.
Assaulted so it was pretty, bad and long story, short
my wife AND i we went there one time and
we experienced so much. Stuff we were weighing over our.
HEADS i probably said and did some THINGS i shouldn't have.
(11:25):
Done we did some provoking and we shouldn't have done.
That we Used ouiji board AND i believe that opened
up an additional portal and allowed whatever was there to
attach to. Us we came home from that experience and
whatever was there took up residence in our home, here
the Home i'm living in now and coming to you live,
(11:48):
from and this thing was in our home for probably two.
MONTHS i reached out to the paranormal community for, help
And god bless them if for once they came through for.
Me in OUR u me to my then mentor who's retired.
Now she was an Ordained catholic. Exorcist she took me
under her, wing taught me how to fight this thing
(12:09):
and get it out of our, house and she said
after we were, done she saw something in me THAT
i didn't see in. Myself she, SAID i think you're
being called to the ministry of exorcism and, deliverance and
if you're, INTERESTED i can put you through my school
and get you to become an ordained a deliverance. MINISTER
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i didn't want to say. YES i was, scared BUT
i said, yes And i'll tell you, why BECAUSE i
never wanted to have to be at such a loss
at what to do again that ever happened to me,
again what happened to my wife AND i for that
two months in this, HOME i didn't want. ONE i
wanted to know what to do the next time that.
Happened and if people came to me for help, AGAIN
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i wanted to be able to help. Them so that's
WHY i stayed with her and finished my, training went
on to become an Ordained Deliverance minister and then but
that came at great.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Cost all, Right, seawan we have to do a bit
of a cliffhanger. Here i've got to take my first break.
Explanation Father Sean whittington is my very special guest this.
Hour his website is ghost and then there said dash
B Dash gone dot biz And Father whittington AND i
will be back on the other side of the break
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as the actull continues on The Talk Star Radio, Network
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On Shaw, Media Rogers, international and On videotron In. Quebec
I'm rob, McConnell and you're also listening to us on
your hometown Radio classic twelfth twenty C faja m And
St catherine streaming us At classic twelfth twenty DOT.
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Ca in The heart of The, night where are The
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On THE X, zone we, Gather come What may With
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Guiding us through the, dark searching for truth, hidden igniting
the spar whispers of, spirits both gentle and, bold tales
of the ancients in the stories retold from haunted old
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houses to the echo in. Halls we seek The, unknown
Where misterry calls on.
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The Exone radio where the truth five.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Through the stories and welcome back if your one. Father
Sean woddington is our very special. Guest his website is
ghost Dash bee dash agone dot. Biz, sean how did
your family and friends take your change of venue and
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when you decided to become an Ordained Deliverance.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Minister it's funny that you should ask that. Question it's
kind of like. People people were a little people that
have known me all my, life that love me and
respect me and still occasionally reach out to. Me how
you do and don't hesitate to reach out to me
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if you ever need me kind of. Thing, yeah the
people kind of faded, away, no because, uh you, know
AND i don't blame. Him people are scared about what it.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
IS i do be proud because here you are stepping
up facing an enemy that we all.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Fear, well, Yeah i've had some close friends that have
hung out with me since Because i've gone on from
being a deliverance minister to entering the, seminary graduating and
becoming an Ordained catholic priest. Exorcist And i've had friends
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that have hung out with me since then who've reported
having some issues. Afterwards and so it's the reason. Why you,
know my wife is a survivor of an extreme demonic,
attack so she'll fight me on, it but VERY i
take her on very few cases anymore because that was
a scary. Time but people tend TO i, know they
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pray for, ME i know they love. Me they're around
IF i need. Them but people tend to kind of
kind of keep their distance a little. Bit AND i get,
it AND i understand it is what it. Is so
that's what it's been, like and that's what it was
like even WHEN i was. Young IF i was honest
with the FEW i can count them on one, hand
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the few friends THAT i, did, say, LISTEN i like
to go out to places and look for. Ghosts that
usually led to them not really wanting to hang out
with me. Anymore So i've got, many many years behind
me of experiencing that kind of, thing AND i get,
it AND i, understand AND i don't have a problem with.
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It my family very, supportive my immediate, family my. Mom you.
KNOW i used to talk to my mom and tell
HER i saw spirits WHEN i was, young and she
just sow a matter of. Factly so you're going how
she knew, THIS i don't. Know she was very gifted,
too but she would, say you're going to see a
lot of ghosts in your, life and they're nothing to
be afraid. Of they're just people without a body. Anymore
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and so if you see, one if you're, not you,
know so freaked out that you can't do, this you
should try and compose yourself and ask them why are
they appearing to. You they have a message for, you
if they need some help with. Something but if you
can't help, them then you should at the very least
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tell them that you see, them but that you're freaked
out and you'd really wish that they didn't appear to
you any. Longer do one of the. Two but she,
said you're going to see a lot of spirits in your.
Life THEN i started seeing things THAT i knew were
different than just your regular disembodied human, spirit and they
were much more. Frightening and WHEN i asked her about that,
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stuff she would sort of kind of change the subject
and just, said those are the ones you want to
want to be careful about that and watch what you
do in, life and don't invite those types of things
into your, life because we're all. Targets and if you
say and do the wrong, THING i, mean they're everywhere
and they're always, watching and they're waiting for just that little.
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Invitation and so many PEOPLE i helped today they didn't
do anything, wrong they didn't think they did anything, wrong
but they might. Have it can be as simple as
joking with someone and, saying you, Know i'd rather. Serve
i'd rather rule in hell than serve in. Heaven you,
know you got to be careful the things you, say
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because if they feel they've been given commission to, attach
they're going to, attach and then it's you're in.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Trouble the world today is in a total. Upheoval many,
people young and old have never experienced such geopolitical you
know what's going on in one, country the number of
people that are, hungry the number of people that are,
homeless the number of people who lose their, jobs the
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number of divorce rates that are, skyrocketing and so. On
is this all part Of satan's master plan to destroy?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Humans, well it's, been that's been his master plan from
the very, beginning since they were all kicked out of
heaven and sent to. Hell so it's just a really ugly.
TIME i can't remember in my lifetime seeing the world
as ugly as it's it is right. Now the horrors
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that you see human beings committing towards one another and
towards religious of, all not Just, Catholic, Judaism muslim, whatever you,
know whatever path you're walking, on if you do have
a religious belief, system you know in your, household everybody's
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a target. Now AND i do Believe satan's already lost the.
Battle we all we know. That but there's many the,
WAR i should, say but there's many battles along the
way that he continues to wage on. Mankind and so
it's just it is a non never ending battle until
the very final one where we know he's. Defeated but
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there's going to be a lot of collateral damage along the.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Way my, gosh look what's happening in The. Ukraine look
what happened today In, washington right smack dab a block
and a half away from The White, house Two national
guardsmen got shot or in critical. Condition to see this.
Happen and then with what is happening With ice and
the immigration, crisis it seems that the entire world is going, Crazy.
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Sean and why isn't there some heavenly. INTERVENTION i understand
we've got free, will but you're a. Dad i'm a.
Dad to see my children, SUFFER i would certainly. Intervene
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and yet all this is going, on and no one from,
above to my, knowledge is, intervening unless they're doing it
in such a way that it's being done but not.
Noticed if you can understand What i'm trying.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
To get, at, ABSOLUTELY i am a dad of a
lot of fur. Babies i've never had any children of
my own THAT i know.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Of, now hold, ON i can send you. Some i'll do,
that just because you're a. FRIEND i tried to pawnd
fifteen grandchildren off to the last, Guest Oh, god and
they said. No so HERE i. Am i've got a
special offer for.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
You, OKAY i tell, YOU i believe me WHEN i tell,
YOU i See i've witnessed enough divine. Intervention you got
to have an eye and look for. It and it
could be something very, little it could be something. Big
people want to see these big. Miracles they're around us
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every single, day but sometimes they're very small and they go.
Unnoticed but there's a lot of intervention going on all the.
Time or trust, me you AND i wouldn't be having this.
Conversation people want to focus on the, bad and that's
something That satan, wants is for us to focus on that.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Bad you, know WHEN i look in WHEN i look
back in, history for, example of The lady Of fatima In,
portugal she was, there she gave the. Message why couldn't
that same type of miracle happen? Today is it because
those in power today think that they don't even have
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to Acknowledge? God or is it because the devil and
evil have more control over them than they themselves?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
KNOW i think you're right on everything you've, said AND
i believe that people we've gotten away as, society we've
gotten away From, god and that's brutally apparent. Too if
you just look at the statistics and watch shows about that,
topic we've gotten away From god and gotten away from.
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Faith my advice is if you don't have if you're
an atheist or a non, believer or you just you
don't buy into any of that, stuff that's, okay but
it doesn't give you an excuse to not wake up every,
day look in the mirror and say to, Yourself i'm
going to be the best version of myself today That
i'm going THAT i can. Be i'm going to treat
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people the WAY i want to be. Treated i'm not
going to hurt. Anybody i'm not going to be a,
pervert And i'm going to just try and do unto
others AS i would have them do unto, me and you,
know help my fellow.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Man and by them doing, that what they're doing is
acknowledging the fact that these are the words from The Great.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Book and if you do have a religious belief system in,
place don't pervert. It stay strong in you're. Faith there
is great power to prayer and all of the THINGS
i just. Said you want to practice that and then
include a lot of. PRAYER i always you, know harp
(25:13):
on people, to you, know Especially. Catholics christians can do this,
too But catholics they should just you, know try to
go to confession once every couple of weeks or once a.
Month try your best to go To. MASS i Say
mass here in my home every day being a. Priest
but people should try and go to confession once twice a,
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month go to church Every, sunday receive, communion pray a.
Lot that stuff is very important because it's very easy
for the demons to just, say you, Know i'll move
on to the next easy. Target they want the easy.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Target well let me let me let me ask you, This.
Sean you, know there are a lot of evangelists on
television and on radio and on the. Internet participating in
an online church. Sermon does that give you the same
protection as going into a church or into a a
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synagogue or, wherever or a temple and under you, know
and participating in the.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
SERVICE i believe that if you have a, church that
you can physically go to a brick and mortar location
right that you're comfortable, at that's really good for the.
Soul being around other, worshipers talking to, people interacting with,
people seeing the, priest going, up receiving comedian and all.
That but you know WHAT i, do AND i am
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one of those online. GUYS i get a lot of
my preach on. Online what that WHY i do that
is BECAUSE i don't have a brick and mortar location
AND i can reach a lot more people than IF
i wasn't online getting my preach on if you, will
so that's important. Too but many of these people you'll find,
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out they just they just don't have a place to go,
to so they enjoy having someone that they can see.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Online Stand, by my good, friend you AND i have
to take our break at the bottom of the hour.
Exonation our guest is Father Shawn. Whittington his website is
Ghost dash b Dash gun dot. Biz and you're listening
to us on The Talkstar Radio, Network Mutual Broadcast, NETWORK
Xon Broadcast, network On, tuber and of course on your
hometown Radio classic twelve twenty C fa J A m
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streaming us On classic twelve twenty DOT Ca houses.
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To The echo In, Halls we seek the, unknown where mistery.
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Call it.
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On The exit, Radio where the truth finds away through
the stories of ghosts that wander and sway in the.
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Seekers from the.
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Mountains out IN bc to the shores Of. Newfoundlands lights
are glowing through the.
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Snow hearts are open hand in.
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Hand from the prairie silent winter fields to the streets And.
Montreal the spirit of the season brings its magic to a.
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Sort it's that.
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Special time of year Across canada.
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Where the war feels warm in me.
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Familys, gaed the voices, sing.
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Open sheet.
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From all the lies.
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So.
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Clear It's christmas Across canada on that special.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Time then welcome back to you one Doctor Father Sean
whittington is our special guest to this. Hour website Is
Ghost dash B Dash gone dot. Biz how different is
being an exorcist compared to the exorcists that we see ON? Tv, well, uh.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
IT'S i get A i get a kick out of,
it to be honest with. You WHEN i watch a
show and then a priest comes in and you know,
Me I'm i'm just just locked on. That, YEAH i
lock onto that person's trying to, see you, know what
is he doing? Right what is he doing? Wrong how
is he behaving on the? Screen the kinds of you
know what you know to see if if there's somebody
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out there that's training these. Actors and you, KNOW i
have to, SAY i haven't really seen anybody h embarrass
the church in their. Behavior but then you get some
of these really low, budget campy horror films where you you,
know some of them are a little you, know a
little bit, much but it's all part of. ENTERTAINMENT i don't,
(30:20):
judge and IT'S i still get a kick out of.
It even WHEN i see THAT i get a kick
out of. It but it's very, different very. Different. Uh
it's it's LIKE i, SAID i got drug into, it
kicking and, screaming but it was meant to. BE i
realize now that it was a calling And i've entered
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the call as BEST i. Can and, uh but you
got you gotta be.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Careful can you take us through how you perform an?
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Exorcism, well basically a lot of people don't know. This
it's just a large. Prayer but it has to be
also scrypted because you also need my. Idea now this
sometimes it doesn't work out this, way but my ideal,
situation IF i can set it up and all the
dominoes fall the way they should fall for me getting
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ready for, THIS i want to have at least one
or two prayer warriors in the room to sit at
a couple of opposite sides of the, room and their
job is no matter what you, hear, see, smell, feel
just to keep The bible open and continue to. Pray, pray,
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pray don't stop. Praying then you have to have men
with you if it's a man who's under demonic, possession
because if they vomit or defecate all over themselves during the,
ritual you have to have men take them to the.
Restroom you don't want women taking a man into the
restroom to clean him. Up and the same flip side
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of that, coin if it's a woman who is under demonic,
possession you don't want men taking her to the restroom
if she vomits and dedicates all over, herself you want
women with. You so sometimes it's hard to find people
that will assist. You but you got to try and
get people that will come in there and assist. You
and they can't be of poor. Character they have to
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be devoutly religious people under a state of grace that
are in this room with you helping. RESTRAIN i hate
to you, KNOW i, Mean i've been in exorcisms where
it would have been nice to have some of, them you,
know cargo straps to strap some of these people down
to whatever they're you know they're sitting, in but you
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know you need. Help you also need assistance that are
going to be. There not only IF i get ill
and get hurt AND i get taken, out someone has
to step. In especially if you're right in the middle
of the, right someone has to step in and take
over for. You so you need at least another. Priest you.
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Know my ideal situation is if there's an archbishop that
has taken authority over the, exorcism And i'm there to assist.
Him BUT i am totally ready and willing and prepared
to take authority over an, exorcism BUT i would like
to have at least a priest who knows how to
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perform the rite with me in case something happens to.
Me and it's just a large, prayer but there's a
lot of responses and then you have to kind of
know the ebb and flow of how things go when
you don't want to get into too much dialogue with
The if once the, entity the unclean spirit, manifests you
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don't want to have any real eyeed eye contact or
conversation with the. Demon but there are times when you,
know as the thing does its ebb and flow ups and.
Downs as you progress through this the ritual and this
long prayer and this, script there's times where you need
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to ask what your mission, is who sent? You when
do you plan to? Leave who are? You if you
can get a demon, name that's very, powerful but it's
not absolutely. Necessary but the thing is is you have
to be prepared to be there for hours and sometimes
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take a break and come back another. Day i've assisted
in exorcisms that have lasted, Months so it's not a
it's not a wham, bam thank you. MAN i have
no magic. POWERS i can't walk into a home and
wave a magic wand and make everything go. Away and
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the little the big secret here that a lot of
people don't. Know everybody is in such a weakened, state
whether it's the person that's under oppression Or god forbid
possessed to everybody around that's close to that, person family,
members everybody is so their life has been turned upside,
down and they know that their lives are at, stake
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and they know that their souls are at. Stake everybody
is just a fragment of themselves at this, point so
it's hard to get them to realize that they are
truly the ones that have the power to draw their
line in the, sand make a, stand put up a good,
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Fight god, forbid the fight of their life if true
evil comes. Calling they're the ones that truly have the power.
ONES i can get everybody to really truly believe, that
and usually there's a good.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Outcome you were saying a little while ago that you
like to have people men and women, there depending on
the sex of the person who is being, possessed to
if they vomit or, deficate to take them to the. Washrom, now,
now while they these other people are taking them to the,
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washrom what would stop the demon from continuing to to you,
know to have the person possessed an act in physical
manners or or defecate, again or to to do whatever
they can to to scare these people who are there
to help you. Out, uh do you continue your prayers
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while this person is taken and everything and does the
suppression of the spirit or the or the demon once
you know their, identity what does? That what extra power
does that give?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
You? WELL i go in to THESE i show up
at a. Location, everybody we all have everything worked out
and we're all ready to. Go but WHEN i show
up at a, LOCATION i enter across the threshold on
my hands and, knees AND i crawl in there AND
i rebaptize everybody not. Rebaptized that's a poor, phrase because
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everybody there is Usually catholic and already. Baptized BUT i
will do a renewal of have everybody go through a
renewal of baptismal, promises and Like jesus did with the,
Apostles i'll get on my hands and knees and wash
everybody's feet in holy, water and everybody is hopefully in
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a state of. Grace we've all gone To, mass we've
all gone to confession And mass and received communion prior
to the, exorcism and you just you know when the
time is. Right you can't allow a person to sit
who's urinated and defecated and vomited all over, themselves and
that doesn't happen and every, exorcism but you can't have
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them sit like that too. Long but you can't release
them if it's at the height of a manifestation and
there's a lot of violence going, on you can't just
release them at that. Point you, know when there's a,
time there's usually. Breaks that's also another weird word to
say a, Break but, there's LIKE i, said there's an
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ebb and flow of an, exorcism and you can tell
when there's a time when it's safe for the person
to be the inflicted person to be taken in and
be cleaned. Up but you got to be very. Careful
you never stop. Praying that's WHY i have the prayer warriors.
THERE i remember one, time now this was an, exorcism
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THAT i was assisting another priest. On he got ill
and had to go into the. GARAGE i took over
as BEST i, could and there was a time during
the exorcism WHERE i leaned too close and the person
that was in a wheelchair at the time got her hand.
Loose we just had her hands strapped down because she
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had a form of muscular dystrophe where she couldn't really get,
around but she was able to get one hand loose
and she struck me rather hard in the. Face it
felt like a large muscular man that was a professional
boxer had punched me in my. FACE i for a split,
SECOND i mean a split second got very. Angry and
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as soon AS i got angry at, that not at,
her but at the unclean spirit for striking out at,
me all of a, sudden every single, door, window, kitchen,
cabinet everything in the house started opening and slamming all
(39:54):
at the same. Time the noise was so deafening that
somebody standing right next to me couldn't hear WHAT i
was saying to. Them the priest heard this going in the,
garage heard this going. ON i came, in grabbed, me
took me into the garage and asked me what had.
Happened ONCE i told, him he, said we're, done because
now he's taken your anger and harnessed that in order
(40:17):
to get the energy to now turn everything upside down
in there and be able to do all these extreme parlor.
Tricks and tonight we're. Done we can come back and
fight another, day But i'm. Ill and you've already your
compromise now because of that one moment where you felt.
Anger so you've got to be very, careful and you've
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got to there's a lot you. Know it starts with a.
Prayer there's praying all through, it and it ends with
prayer and so and then people people go through a
post demonic stress. Disorder if you will these people that
have just gone through, this they will always love me
(41:01):
and we could continue after the, break but they never
want to see me. Again and you can't blame them
because seeing me is a reminder.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Of what, Happened so either that or should be a
reminder of how you saved.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Them, well, absolutely they love me and pray for, Me
BUT i send instructions with them WHEN i, leave because
you don't want to make the same mistakes again that
caused you to get in that. Situation and that's important, too.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
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Speaker 6 (43:01):
With Well Shawn whittington's are our? Guest?
Speaker 7 (43:05):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Sean my question after listening to you describe how you
you you do your your. Exorcism it must be a
physical and mental strain on you and those who are.
PARTICIPANTS a lot of, praying and you know you prepare
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by going to mass, Confession you crawl, in you wash
the feet of those in, attendance and basically you JUST
i renew their baptismal. Rites but what happens if the
person isn't A?
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Catholic that's such a Hard, uh there's Many one Thing
i've learned over many years is when to say when
and when to cut somebody. Loose and that's probably the
hardest thing to have to deal. With these people their
lives have been turned upside, down, right and they're, experiencing
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you know, what they're experiencing something they can't, explain and
they know that they need. Help BUT i have people
that they don't they don't want to do ANYTHING i
asked them to. Do that's going to help, Them AND
i don't blame. Them i've always found it. Amazing and
that's also the demonic at. Work these people are, brainwashed demonically,
(44:30):
brainwashed and they just want me to come, in LIKE
i said, earlier and wave a magic wand and make
it all. Better but they're not going to do anything
that you ask them to. Do on a spiritual, Level
they're not Gonna they're not gonna go get. BAPTIZED i
may talk some of them into going to a non
(44:50):
Denominational christian based church to get fully submerged in The holy,
waters but they're not going to go to A catholic
church and get baptized and start going going To mass
and receiving. Comedion why that's amazes me that a person
going through that type of horror would not be willing
to do.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
That is it Too is it too late by the
time they get. Possessed in order to go through the,
uh the the the courses and the rituals to become
a you, know a Baptized catholic in order to receive
The Holy communion and so on and so, forth the.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
Unclean spirit needs to be exercised first before the person
can start doing, that go To catechism and become.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
Baptized so let's say the person Is, protestant okay or,
ANGLE i can can you still perform the exorcism on them.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
When In? Rome you, know sometimes you have to Be
johnny on the spot and you do what you've got to.
Do sometimes the battle, pick you, know chooses. You you
don't choose the, battle and then you gotta do what
you gotta. Do But i've also learned THAT i Have
i've referred many many cases out to other teams and
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other clergy that are better suited for that. Person, unfortunately you,
know my wife being A stephen minister in The Lutheran,
CHURCH i can you, know she can talk to The.
LUTHERANS i can talk to The christians and The. Catholics
i've even performed an exorcism or two on A jewish.
Person one EXORCISM i actually assisted A jewish exorcist in
(46:37):
this because when she first reached out to, me she, said,
OH i didn't know you Were, catholic you can't help.
ME i, said, ABSOLUTELY i can help, you AND i,
will and it meant it meant a lot to her
THAT i reached. Out it took some, Hunting BUT i
hunted down and found A jewish.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
Exorcist but if there's only, one if there's only One,
god why what wouldn't matter what denomination you, are if,
you as a member of the, clergy are doing an
exorcist to protect and to save one of his.
Speaker 7 (47:11):
Children, well it comes back to the power of faith
and the power of. Prayer these people need to believe
in what's going. On so this woman was much more
ready to totally buy in with this rabbi than she
was with, Me and that goes a long, way especially
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during an. Exorcism these, people it's all part of these
people being the ones that have the true power to fight.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Back so is part of being possessed mind over.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
Matter there is a lot of mind over. Matter you
have to be you have to be ready to. Fight
you have to be ready to dig really, deep pull
some scabs off of some old. Wounds what it was
that caused you to be in this, situation and whoever's
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there that's trying to help, you you need to help
them and fight. Back you need to. Fight, also you
can't you can't just leave it in the hands of
a priest, or a rabbi or a deliverance, minister you
have to be prepared to fight, too and everybody in that.
Family that's one Of satan's biggest goals is to demolish the.
(48:26):
Family very few exorcisms That i've attended or been a part,
of or took authority over what there was a family
wasn't a family. Involved there's always a family, involved and
he wants to destroy. That so you need to get
everybody in that family on, board or they or they
can't be present Because satan's in the. Mind he's living
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rent free in the mind of every single person that's
in that room part of this. Thing that's why you've
got to be careful what you listen, to what you respond,
to and you just got to stay focused and stay in.
Prayer but these people have to learn how to fight.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
BACK i understand. THAT i understand. That but is it
not the demon that is in control during the during
the exorcism and not the person who is the host
of the. Demon and if it's the demon in who
is in, control how can how can the the host
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of the demon be expected to fight?
Speaker 7 (49:32):
Back, well they have given at one point somewhere along
this roller coaster ride of they've done something to start
with that drew the attention of this, entity and then
somewhere along the line during the infestation stage and then
(49:52):
the oppression, stage they've done something to actually give permission
to this thing to. Attach and then once the was,
given then it just escalated until SOMETIMES i go into
these cases and that's as far as it's. Gone it
hasn't gone to a full blown possession. Yet but once
the possession has taken, Place god's always in. Control it's
(50:15):
Always god that's in. Control but the people when the
unclean spirit, manifests it's in control to a certain, degree
but the person is still in control of their. Soul
they just have this, invading unclean spirit that has entered
(50:37):
their shell and is manifesting through and is suppressing the person.
Behind but the demon doesn't have control of that person's.
Soul that person's essence is still. There so before any
of this even, begins hopefully they're in the right frame
of mind that they're ready to help you fight.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
Back but If god is in, Control god exercise the.
Speaker 7 (51:02):
DEMON i believe this is my humble, opinion AND i
don't have all the. Answers you AND i are going
to be having this discussion one day in heaven and
we'll have a nice laugh and a pint over all
the things we're going to know then that we don't know.
NOW i believe in many, circumstances AND i get asked
this question a. Lot you, know why Would god allow
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that person to be? Possessed they're A god, fearing church
going person who hasn't done anything. Wrong AND i believe
sometimes the reason Why god allows this to take place
is because there's somebody close to that person that needs
to see that true evil does exist and then needs
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to see That god exists in the power of divine.
Intervention and sometimes that can be the person that is under,
possession but many times it's somebody close to them that
needs to see That god always. INTENDS i believe that
person is going to ultimately be, saved but there's going
(52:08):
to be a process that we all have to go
through to get to that, point and somebody in that
person's immediate bubble close to them is in a position
that they need to witness, that they need to see
that true evil does, exist That god does, exist and
that there is such a thing as divine, intervention and
(52:29):
they need to see. That then, again possessions that take
place when people have just a lot of my clients
that come to me now are actually paranormal investigators without any.
Training they've gone to the wrong, place and they've been
there at the wrong, time and they've said and done
(52:50):
the wrong, thing and they have caused an attachment to
come upon, them and then they didn't realize the warning,
signs and they've allowed that to fester and, grow and
it gets pretty ugly pretty.
Speaker 6 (53:06):
Quick why would, you a man of the, cloth call
somebody who comes to you for help a. Client that
kind of just doesn't sound.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
RIGHT i never really thought about, it to be honest with.
You WHY i would call them a? Client probably old
old habits for many many years of just being a
paranormal investigator helping people that come to me for, help calling,
them you KNOW i have this client, now or probably old.
Speaker 6 (53:36):
HABIT i just thought i'd ask because it just kind
of sounded wrong coming from a man of the.
Speaker 7 (53:42):
Cloth, WELL i get a lot of people to, say
why is your website that dot? Biz is it a? Business?
WELL i have things on there for, sale like my.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Books you know you were telling, me you, know you
were telling me you've got a new book coming.
Speaker 7 (53:56):
AROUND i.
Speaker 6 (53:58):
Do, uh we've got about A milli. Left that's WHY
i figured we.
Speaker 7 (54:02):
Can if you go to my, website you'll see my
first two books. Right my first, Book God goes to
The Paranormal, Ministry God goes to The Paranormal mystry. Too
the new book is Help Me I'm. HAUNTED i co
wrote it with my, publisher who's a lifelong paranormal experiencer
and a paranormal enthusiast as you, Are, Rob and there's
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also a lot of leading figures in the paranormal field
that contributed articles to. This and how that book came
along was people reaching out to me with all the
same questions over and over and over again that are experiencing.
STUFF i need help with? This how DO i get?
Help so we address all of the most popular and
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some not so popular scary things that people are going
through and how they can get. Help and if you
buy it off Of, amazon it's a little that's, expensive
but off the, WEBSITE i autograph it and it to
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Handy so that's helped.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Me I'm Haunted Father Shawn. Weddington as, Always, sean time
goes by so, faster and you're with us. Again thank
you for the great work that you do and for
the people that you've helped over the. Years AND i
look forward to the next time you AND i meet
here in the Ex. Home but IF i don't speak
to you until Before, CHRISTMAS i want to wish you
and your family and all your friends a very Merry
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christmas and a, happy, healthy demonic Free New.
Speaker 7 (55:31):
Year god bless, you. BROTHER i love. You god bless.
Everyone Happy thanksgiving to all the people In. America god bless, You.
ROB i love, you. Brother i'm gonna get you on
my show as soon AS i, can all.
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Right god bless, you. Buddy Explanation Father Sean whittington has
been our guest this. Hour well that's it for. Tonight
i'll be back tomorrow, night same, time same. Channel so until,
THEN i always keep your eyes to the sky and
your heart to the. Light good night, Everyone
Speaker 7 (56:00):
Ghost
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And welcome back everyone. Wow, the record of the Edmumphist
Jeralden still gives me shivers when I hear that song,
not only the song that we did, but also the
one by the late Great Gordon light Foot explanation. This
hour on the expone, we step into one of the
darkest and most misunderstood corners of the paranormal world. And
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that's the realm of demonic oppression, spiritual warfare, and the
battle between good and evil. My guest this hour is
Father Shawn Whittington, a highly respected exorcist, deliverance minister, paranormal investigator,
and founder of Ghost be Gone, one of the most
trusted mister ministries dedicated to helping individuals and families who
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believe they are facing malevolent forces. With years of experience
confronting hauntings, attachment, and full blow in possession cases, Father
Shawn brings a rare combination of spiritual authority, deep compassion, discipline, training,
and first hand knowledge of the dangers of that are
lurking in the shadows. Tonight, he joins us to discuss
(02:54):
his work, his faith, his most challenging cases, and what
really happens when another exorcist steps onto the battlefield. This
is one conversation you will not want to miss. So
please welcome with me Father Shawn Whittington to the x
Z Own and Father Shawn, always great having you with us,
my friend. How are you?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
God bless you, brother, It's my pleasure. God bless you
for asking me back. And I always have a great
time here, and I know I tell you this every time,
but I just have to do it. You play, and
you're probably gonna play more in the next hour. But
you play such wonderful music on this show, on your show,
I have to ask you. I know you're a lifelong
(03:38):
paranormal experiencer and enthusiast in your own right. You are
where you're at in Canada? Are you near any of
the Great Lakes?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Oh, we're right on the shores of Lake Ontario.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Here there you go. Do you I should know this.
Do you have any legends of like ghost ships?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Oh? My goodness, we're a right smack dab in the
middle of what's known as the Great Lakes Triangle. Really, yes,
there's ghost ships. Planes had vanished over the Great Lakes
and filled with Indian myth legends. Missus John Grave Simcoe,
the wife of the first governor of this province, saw
(04:21):
great balls of fire in the sky flying in formation
years ago. Their stories, well, one of the stories that
we actually covered was the night the Edmund Fitzgerald sank
in Lake Superior under suspicious conditions. Strange occurrences happened all
(04:43):
the way down the Niagara River. The animals at Marine Land,
which is in Niagara Falls, it's a major attraction. They
all got spooked by some invisible force and they bolted
out of their enclosures and they were found on the
Queen Elizabeth Highway, which is the main highway from Toronto
(05:05):
into the US, and it's just filled. We have the
Screaming Tunnel where I used to do my show at
six' ten C, ktb the most haunted radio station In.
Canada we have stories of, specters you, know just going
down the streets In Niagara. Falls we have stories of
phantom horse carriages being driven by phantom, drivers filled with.
(05:30):
Legends and one Day i'd love for you to come
on up here and let me take you. AROUND i have.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
To and you Mentioned Niagara. Falls so much, energy oh,
yeah you know produced. There, yeah just highly charged paranormal
activity throughout that whole neck of the. Regions BUT i
had never really heard of anybody talk about seeing ghost.
(05:57):
Ships AND i just had somebody call me the other
day and they saw one off the coast of Either
North carolina Or South. Carolina But i've always been in
being a navy man, Myself i've always been intrigued by,
that AND i remember when the ship THAT i was
on we would be out at, sea sometimes three or
four months in a road just doing whatever they do out,
(06:19):
there and you, KNOW i would get off watch and
they always THOUGHT i was weird THAT i would go
up to like the crow's. NEST i had it in
with the with the radio. SHACK i was a radio
man AND i had an in with the signa and
they let me go up to the crows nest And
i'd sit up there all night long with the, infrared you,
know night vision goggles on looking for, stuff and never
(06:41):
saw a ghost. Ship BUT i always wondered with, that
what type of reaction that would get out of me
to see.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
That you, know, WELL i did not know you were
a member of the military and you were in The.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Navy, yeah, lot time go another lifetime.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Brother, WELL i want to thank you for your, service my.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Friend thank, You god bless.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You it's, well it's well, Appreciated Father sean for those
meeting you for the first time here and there. Song
what led you into the work of, deliverance spiritual warfare and, Exorcism.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Well That's i'm going to give you the same ANSWER
i give, everybody because it's the. TRUTH i got actually
drug into this line of, work kicking and, screaming literally
i'd ALREADY i was seeing spirit WHEN i was a young,
boy and SO i was an amateur ghostbuster at a
(07:34):
very early, age probably around. Ten And i'm that weird
kid riding around on the bicycle with the you, know
the shwin with the basket on The hannah bars AND
i had a little hole right in there and huh.
Uh you, know back then you didn't have the little voiceover,
recorder so i had this, big clunky tape, recorder And
i'm riding around looking for every you, know abandoned looking
(07:58):
LOCATION i can to go, in and you, know. HERBEXING
i guess that would be back then you would be called.
HERBEXING i really didn't know WHAT i was, doing had some,
scares but as time went, ON i got more and
more passionate about investigating paranormal occurrences in ghost hunting and ghost,
pusting if you, WILL i wish looking, BACK i WISH
(08:21):
i had been more open about that passion because WHEN
i was, young that was a weird. Thing your friends
all thought you were a kook if you were into
that sort of, stuff and you, know you want to
have friends when you're, young SO i kind of kept
that a. Secret that was a secret passion of. MINE
i regret doing, that but, many many years LATER i
(08:45):
SAW i met my. Wife we were set up on
a blind, date we didn't know, it and we hit it.
Off she was A stephen minister in The Lutheran church
and a psychic. Medium she doesn't like to call herself,
that so she will tell you, no but trust, me
she's a several times over near death experienced survivor and
(09:05):
has come back from those experiences, with for lack of
a better, term a, gift if you. Will and so
we hit it off right, away and right away we
were honest with each other about our passion for the paranormal.
Field so we Started Ghost, begone and that's over twenty years,
ago and we were just your average you, know going
(09:31):
on ghost, tours going attending para cons in paranormal, conferences
and helping people with their paranormal. Issues if someone reached
out to us for help residential and, commercial and we
worked a very ugly case. Together it was a coworker
(09:52):
of mine who said just recently. Married so she was
a newlywed AND i worked at the. TIME i spent
the last years before becoming an ordained priest a veterinary.
Technician so she was a coworker at this hospital THAT
i worked, at and she, said you need to come
over to my. HOUSE i don't want to discuss it
here at, work but you won't regret. It please come
(10:15):
AND i need your. Help so my wife AND i
went over, there and she was actually being, raped literally
by something she couldn't see at. Night it started just at,
night but then it progressed to daytime when she'd be
in the, shower when she'd be on the couch outside
on her porch having a, cigarette and then it started
(10:38):
to attack and rape her husband because he would try
to intervene in the attacks and stop, it and he
would come under. Attack they both went to the doctor for.
Exams he was SUFFERING i Hope i'm not going to
get too graphic, here but he was suffering like rectal
fissures from these Tax she was also suffering the same
(11:03):
type of physical ailments that a woman gets from being sexually.
Assaulted so it was pretty, bad and long story, short
my wife AND i we went there one time and
we experienced so much. Stuff we were weighing over our.
HEADS i probably said and did some THINGS i shouldn't have.
(11:25):
Done we did some provoking and we shouldn't have done.
That we Used ouiji board AND i believe that opened
up an additional portal and allowed whatever was there to
attach to. Us we came home from that experience and
whatever was there took up residence in our home, here
the Home i'm living in now and coming to you live,
(11:48):
from and this thing was in our home for probably two.
MONTHS i reached out to the paranormal community for, help
And god bless them if for once they came through for.
Me in OUR u me to my then mentor who's retired.
Now she was an Ordained catholic. Exorcist she took me
under her, wing taught me how to fight this thing
(12:09):
and get it out of our, house and she said
after we were, done she saw something in me THAT
i didn't see in. Myself she, SAID i think you're
being called to the ministry of exorcism and, deliverance and
if you're, INTERESTED i can put you through my school
and get you to become an ordained a deliverance. MINISTER
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i didn't want to say. YES i was, scared BUT
i said, yes And i'll tell you, why BECAUSE i
never wanted to have to be at such a loss
at what to do again that ever happened to me,
again what happened to my wife AND i for that
two months in this, HOME i didn't want. ONE i
wanted to know what to do the next time that.
Happened and if people came to me for help, AGAIN
(12:54):
i wanted to be able to help. Them so that's
WHY i stayed with her and finished my, training went
on to become an Ordained Deliverance minister and then but
that came at great.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Cost all, Right, seawan we have to do a bit
of a cliffhanger. Here i've got to take my first break.
Explanation Father Sean whittington is my very special guest this.
Hour his website is ghost and then there said dash
B Dash gone dot biz And Father whittington AND i
will be back on the other side of the break
(13:28):
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Guiding us through the, dark searching for truth, hidden igniting
the spar whispers of, spirits both gentle and, bold tales
of the ancients in the stories retold from haunted old
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Where misterry calls on.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
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Speaker 6 (15:01):
Through the stories and welcome back if your one. Father
Sean woddington is our very special. Guest his website is
ghost Dash bee dash agone dot. Biz, sean how did
your family and friends take your change of venue and
(15:23):
when you decided to become an Ordained Deliverance.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Minister it's funny that you should ask that. Question it's
kind of like. People people were a little people that
have known me all my, life that love me and
respect me and still occasionally reach out to. Me how
you do and don't hesitate to reach out to me
(15:48):
if you ever need me kind of. Thing, yeah the
people kind of faded, away, no because, uh you, know
AND i don't blame. Him people are scared about what it.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
IS i do be proud because here you are stepping
up facing an enemy that we all.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Fear, well, Yeah i've had some close friends that have
hung out with me since Because i've gone on from
being a deliverance minister to entering the, seminary graduating and
becoming an Ordained catholic priest. Exorcist And i've had friends
(16:26):
that have hung out with me since then who've reported
having some issues. Afterwards and so it's the reason. Why you,
know my wife is a survivor of an extreme demonic,
attack so she'll fight me on, it but VERY i
take her on very few cases anymore because that was
a scary. Time but people tend TO i, know they
(16:48):
pray for, ME i know they love. Me they're around
IF i need. Them but people tend to kind of
kind of keep their distance a little. Bit AND i get,
it AND i understand it is what it. Is so
that's what it's been, like and that's what it was
like even WHEN i was. Young IF i was honest
with the FEW i can count them on one, hand
(17:08):
the few friends THAT i, did, say, LISTEN i like
to go out to places and look for. Ghosts that
usually led to them not really wanting to hang out
with me. Anymore So i've got, many many years behind
me of experiencing that kind of, thing AND i get,
it AND i, understand AND i don't have a problem with.
(17:31):
It my family very, supportive my immediate, family my. Mom you.
KNOW i used to talk to my mom and tell
HER i saw spirits WHEN i was, young and she
just sow a matter of. Factly so you're going how
she knew, THIS i don't. Know she was very gifted,
too but she would, say you're going to see a
lot of ghosts in your, life and they're nothing to
be afraid. Of they're just people without a body. Anymore
(17:53):
and so if you see, one if you're, not you,
know so freaked out that you can't do, this you
should try and compose yourself and ask them why are
they appearing to. You they have a message for, you
if they need some help with. Something but if you
can't help, them then you should at the very least
(18:13):
tell them that you see, them but that you're freaked
out and you'd really wish that they didn't appear to
you any. Longer do one of the. Two but she,
said you're going to see a lot of spirits in your.
Life THEN i started seeing things THAT i knew were
different than just your regular disembodied human, spirit and they
were much more. Frightening and WHEN i asked her about that,
(18:33):
stuff she would sort of kind of change the subject
and just, said those are the ones you want to
want to be careful about that and watch what you
do in, life and don't invite those types of things
into your, life because we're all. Targets and if you
say and do the wrong, THING i, mean they're everywhere
and they're always, watching and they're waiting for just that little.
(18:58):
Invitation and so many PEOPLE i helped today they didn't
do anything, wrong they didn't think they did anything, wrong
but they might. Have it can be as simple as
joking with someone and, saying you, Know i'd rather. Serve
i'd rather rule in hell than serve in. Heaven you,
know you got to be careful the things you, say
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because if they feel they've been given commission to, attach
they're going to, attach and then it's you're in.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Trouble the world today is in a total. Upheoval many,
people young and old have never experienced such geopolitical you
know what's going on in one, country the number of
people that are, hungry the number of people that are,
homeless the number of people who lose their, jobs the
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number of divorce rates that are, skyrocketing and so. On
is this all part Of satan's master plan to destroy?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Humans, well it's, been that's been his master plan from
the very, beginning since they were all kicked out of
heaven and sent to. Hell so it's just a really ugly.
TIME i can't remember in my lifetime seeing the world
as ugly as it's it is right. Now the horrors
(20:22):
that you see human beings committing towards one another and
towards religious of, all not Just, Catholic, Judaism muslim, whatever you,
know whatever path you're walking, on if you do have
a religious belief, system you know in your, household everybody's
(20:42):
a target. Now AND i do Believe satan's already lost the.
Battle we all we know. That but there's many the,
WAR i should, say but there's many battles along the
way that he continues to wage on. Mankind and so
it's just it is a non never ending battle until
the very final one where we know he's. Defeated but
(21:04):
there's going to be a lot of collateral damage along the.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Way my, gosh look what's happening in The. Ukraine look
what happened today In, washington right smack dab a block
and a half away from The White, house Two national
guardsmen got shot or in critical. Condition to see this.
Happen and then with what is happening With ice and
the immigration, crisis it seems that the entire world is going, Crazy.
(21:29):
Sean and why isn't there some heavenly. INTERVENTION i understand
we've got free, will but you're a. Dad i'm a.
Dad to see my children, SUFFER i would certainly. Intervene
(21:50):
and yet all this is going, on and no one from,
above to my, knowledge is, intervening unless they're doing it
in such a way that it's being done but not.
Noticed if you can understand What i'm trying.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
To get, at, ABSOLUTELY i am a dad of a
lot of fur. Babies i've never had any children of
my own THAT i know.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Of, now hold, ON i can send you. Some i'll do,
that just because you're a. FRIEND i tried to pawnd
fifteen grandchildren off to the last, Guest Oh, god and
they said. No so HERE i. Am i've got a
special offer for.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
You, OKAY i tell, YOU i believe me WHEN i tell,
YOU i See i've witnessed enough divine. Intervention you got
to have an eye and look for. It and it
could be something very, little it could be something. Big
people want to see these big. Miracles they're around us
(22:51):
every single, day but sometimes they're very small and they go.
Unnoticed but there's a lot of intervention going on all the.
Time or trust, me you AND i wouldn't be having this.
Conversation people want to focus on the, bad and that's
something That satan, wants is for us to focus on that.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Bad you, know WHEN i look in WHEN i look
back in, history for, example of The lady Of fatima In,
portugal she was, there she gave the. Message why couldn't
that same type of miracle happen? Today is it because
those in power today think that they don't even have
(23:35):
to Acknowledge? God or is it because the devil and
evil have more control over them than they themselves?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
KNOW i think you're right on everything you've, said AND
i believe that people we've gotten away as, society we've
gotten away From, god and that's brutally apparent. Too if
you just look at the statistics and watch shows about that,
topic we've gotten away From god and gotten away from.
(24:09):
Faith my advice is if you don't have if you're
an atheist or a non, believer or you just you
don't buy into any of that, stuff that's, okay but
it doesn't give you an excuse to not wake up every,
day look in the mirror and say to, Yourself i'm
going to be the best version of myself today That
i'm going THAT i can. Be i'm going to treat
(24:30):
people the WAY i want to be. Treated i'm not
going to hurt. Anybody i'm not going to be a,
pervert And i'm going to just try and do unto
others AS i would have them do unto, me and you,
know help my fellow.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Man and by them doing, that what they're doing is
acknowledging the fact that these are the words from The Great.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Book and if you do have a religious belief system in,
place don't pervert. It stay strong in you're. Faith there
is great power to prayer and all of the THINGS
i just. Said you want to practice that and then
include a lot of. PRAYER i always you, know harp
(25:13):
on people, to you, know Especially. Catholics christians can do this,
too But catholics they should just you, know try to
go to confession once every couple of weeks or once a.
Month try your best to go To. MASS i Say
mass here in my home every day being a. Priest
but people should try and go to confession once twice a,
(25:33):
month go to church Every, sunday receive, communion pray a.
Lot that stuff is very important because it's very easy
for the demons to just, say you, Know i'll move
on to the next easy. Target they want the easy.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Target well let me let me let me ask you, This.
Sean you, know there are a lot of evangelists on
television and on radio and on the. Internet participating in
an online church. Sermon does that give you the same
protection as going into a church or into a a
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synagogue or, wherever or a temple and under you, know
and participating in the.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
SERVICE i believe that if you have a, church that
you can physically go to a brick and mortar location
right that you're comfortable, at that's really good for the.
Soul being around other, worshipers talking to, people interacting with,
people seeing the, priest going, up receiving comedian and all.
That but you know WHAT i, do AND i am
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one of those online. GUYS i get a lot of
my preach on. Online what that WHY i do that
is BECAUSE i don't have a brick and mortar location
AND i can reach a lot more people than IF
i wasn't online getting my preach on if you, will
so that's important. Too but many of these people you'll find,
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out they just they just don't have a place to go,
to so they enjoy having someone that they can see.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Online Stand, by my good, friend you AND i have
to take our break at the bottom of the hour.
Exonation our guest is Father Shawn. Whittington his website is
Ghost dash b Dash gun dot. Biz and you're listening
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Speaker 6 (29:10):
Time then welcome back to you one Doctor Father Sean
whittington is our special guest to this. Hour website Is
Ghost dash B Dash gone dot. Biz how different is
being an exorcist compared to the exorcists that we see ON? Tv, well, uh.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
IT'S i get A i get a kick out of,
it to be honest with. You WHEN i watch a
show and then a priest comes in and you know,
Me I'm i'm just just locked on. That, YEAH i
lock onto that person's trying to, see you, know what
is he doing? Right what is he doing? Wrong how
is he behaving on the? Screen the kinds of you
know what you know to see if if there's somebody
(29:58):
out there that's training these. Actors and you, KNOW i
have to, SAY i haven't really seen anybody h embarrass
the church in their. Behavior but then you get some
of these really low, budget campy horror films where you you,
know some of them are a little you, know a
little bit, much but it's all part of. ENTERTAINMENT i don't,
(30:20):
judge and IT'S i still get a kick out of.
It even WHEN i see THAT i get a kick
out of. It but it's very, different very. Different. Uh
it's it's LIKE i, SAID i got drug into, it
kicking and, screaming but it was meant to. BE i
realize now that it was a calling And i've entered
(30:43):
the call as BEST i. Can and, uh but you
got you gotta be.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Careful can you take us through how you perform an?
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Exorcism, well basically a lot of people don't know. This
it's just a large. Prayer but it has to be
also scrypted because you also need my. Idea now this
sometimes it doesn't work out this, way but my ideal,
situation IF i can set it up and all the
dominoes fall the way they should fall for me getting
(31:15):
ready for, THIS i want to have at least one
or two prayer warriors in the room to sit at
a couple of opposite sides of the, room and their
job is no matter what you, hear, see, smell, feel
just to keep The bible open and continue to. Pray, pray,
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pray don't stop. Praying then you have to have men
with you if it's a man who's under demonic, possession
because if they vomit or defecate all over themselves during the,
ritual you have to have men take them to the.
Restroom you don't want women taking a man into the
restroom to clean him. Up and the same flip side
(31:58):
of that, coin if it's a woman who is under demonic,
possession you don't want men taking her to the restroom
if she vomits and dedicates all over, herself you want
women with. You so sometimes it's hard to find people
that will assist. You but you got to try and
get people that will come in there and assist. You
and they can't be of poor. Character they have to
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be devoutly religious people under a state of grace that
are in this room with you helping. RESTRAIN i hate
to you, KNOW i, Mean i've been in exorcisms where
it would have been nice to have some of, them you,
know cargo straps to strap some of these people down
to whatever they're you know they're sitting, in but you
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know you need. Help you also need assistance that are
going to be. There not only IF i get ill
and get hurt AND i get taken, out someone has
to step. In especially if you're right in the middle
of the, right someone has to step in and take
over for. You so you need at least another. Priest you.
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Know my ideal situation is if there's an archbishop that
has taken authority over the, exorcism And i'm there to assist.
Him BUT i am totally ready and willing and prepared
to take authority over an, exorcism BUT i would like
to have at least a priest who knows how to
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perform the rite with me in case something happens to.
Me and it's just a large, prayer but there's a
lot of responses and then you have to kind of
know the ebb and flow of how things go when
you don't want to get into too much dialogue with
The if once the, entity the unclean spirit, manifests you
(33:51):
don't want to have any real eyeed eye contact or
conversation with the. Demon but there are times when you,
know as the thing does its ebb and flow ups and.
Downs as you progress through this the ritual and this
long prayer and this, script there's times where you need
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to ask what your mission, is who sent? You when
do you plan to? Leave who are? You if you
can get a demon, name that's very, powerful but it's
not absolutely. Necessary but the thing is is you have
to be prepared to be there for hours and sometimes
(34:33):
take a break and come back another. Day i've assisted
in exorcisms that have lasted, Months so it's not a
it's not a wham, bam thank you. MAN i have
no magic. POWERS i can't walk into a home and
wave a magic wand and make everything go. Away and
(34:54):
the little the big secret here that a lot of
people don't. Know everybody is in such a weakened, state
whether it's the person that's under oppression Or god forbid
possessed to everybody around that's close to that, person family,
members everybody is so their life has been turned upside,
down and they know that their lives are at, stake
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and they know that their souls are at. Stake everybody
is just a fragment of themselves at this, point so
it's hard to get them to realize that they are
truly the ones that have the power to draw their
line in the, sand make a, stand put up a good,
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Fight god, forbid the fight of their life if true
evil comes. Calling they're the ones that truly have the power.
ONES i can get everybody to really truly believe, that
and usually there's a good.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Outcome you were saying a little while ago that you
like to have people men and women, there depending on
the sex of the person who is being, possessed to
if they vomit or, deficate to take them to the. Washrom, now,
now while they these other people are taking them to the,
(36:17):
washrom what would stop the demon from continuing to to you,
know to have the person possessed an act in physical
manners or or defecate, again or to to do whatever
they can to to scare these people who are there
to help you. Out, uh do you continue your prayers
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while this person is taken and everything and does the
suppression of the spirit or the or the demon once
you know their, identity what does? That what extra power
does that give?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
You? WELL i go in to THESE i show up
at a. Location, everybody we all have everything worked out
and we're all ready to. Go but WHEN i show
up at a, LOCATION i enter across the threshold on
my hands and, knees AND i crawl in there AND
i rebaptize everybody not. Rebaptized that's a poor, phrase because
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everybody there is Usually catholic and already. Baptized BUT i
will do a renewal of have everybody go through a
renewal of baptismal, promises and Like jesus did with the,
Apostles i'll get on my hands and knees and wash
everybody's feet in holy, water and everybody is hopefully in
(37:39):
a state of. Grace we've all gone To, mass we've
all gone to confession And mass and received communion prior
to the, exorcism and you just you know when the
time is. Right you can't allow a person to sit
who's urinated and defecated and vomited all over, themselves and
that doesn't happen and every, exorcism but you can't have
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them sit like that too. Long but you can't release
them if it's at the height of a manifestation and
there's a lot of violence going, on you can't just
release them at that. Point you, know when there's a,
time there's usually. Breaks that's also another weird word to
say a, Break but, there's LIKE i, said there's an
(38:23):
ebb and flow of an, exorcism and you can tell
when there's a time when it's safe for the person
to be the inflicted person to be taken in and
be cleaned. Up but you got to be very. Careful
you never stop. Praying that's WHY i have the prayer warriors.
THERE i remember one, time now this was an, exorcism
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THAT i was assisting another priest. On he got ill
and had to go into the. GARAGE i took over
as BEST i, could and there was a time during
the exorcism WHERE i leaned too close and the person
that was in a wheelchair at the time got her hand.
Loose we just had her hands strapped down because she
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had a form of muscular dystrophe where she couldn't really get,
around but she was able to get one hand loose
and she struck me rather hard in the. Face it
felt like a large muscular man that was a professional
boxer had punched me in my. FACE i for a split,
SECOND i mean a split second got very. Angry and
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as soon AS i got angry at, that not at,
her but at the unclean spirit for striking out at,
me all of a, sudden every single, door, window, kitchen,
cabinet everything in the house started opening and slamming all
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at the same. Time the noise was so deafening that
somebody standing right next to me couldn't hear WHAT i
was saying to. Them the priest heard this going in the,
garage heard this going. ON i came, in grabbed, me
took me into the garage and asked me what had.
Happened ONCE i told, him he, said we're, done because
now he's taken your anger and harnessed that in order
(40:17):
to get the energy to now turn everything upside down
in there and be able to do all these extreme parlor.
Tricks and tonight we're. Done we can come back and
fight another, day But i'm. Ill and you've already your
compromise now because of that one moment where you felt.
Anger so you've got to be very, careful and you've
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got to there's a lot you. Know it starts with a.
Prayer there's praying all through, it and it ends with
prayer and so and then people people go through a
post demonic stress. Disorder if you will these people that
have just gone through, this they will always love me
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and we could continue after the, break but they never
want to see me. Again and you can't blame them
because seeing me is a reminder.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Of what, Happened so either that or should be a
reminder of how you saved.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Them, well, absolutely they love me and pray for, Me
BUT i send instructions with them WHEN i, leave because
you don't want to make the same mistakes again that
caused you to get in that. Situation and that's important, too.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
All, right stand by my good Friend Wow Father Sean
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Speaker 4 (41:52):
Geez pass me nine On Gate.
Speaker 9 (42:14):
Street the signal homes, low statics, alive and the shadows
glow through the glass of the control room.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Door something, whispers we've been here.
Speaker 9 (42:25):
Before all fund staff sec the your size bread on
ail like.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Flickers and dies through the hallway shell creeps.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Me C K T bee never sleeps.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
Go so street.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Calling my name had me always lost in the flame
from the grind of the. Mic they rise, again telling
the stories.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Through static.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
With Well Shawn whittington's are our? Guest?
Speaker 7 (43:05):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Sean my question after listening to you describe how you
you you do your your. Exorcism it must be a
physical and mental strain on you and those who are.
PARTICIPANTS a lot of, praying and you know you prepare
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by going to mass, Confession you crawl, in you wash
the feet of those in, attendance and basically you JUST
i renew their baptismal. Rites but what happens if the
person isn't A?
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Catholic that's such a Hard, uh there's Many one Thing
i've learned over many years is when to say when
and when to cut somebody. Loose and that's probably the
hardest thing to have to deal. With these people their
lives have been turned upside, down, right and they're, experiencing
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you know, what they're experiencing something they can't, explain and
they know that they need. Help BUT i have people
that they don't they don't want to do ANYTHING i
asked them to. Do that's going to help, Them AND
i don't blame. Them i've always found it. Amazing and
that's also the demonic at. Work these people are, brainwashed demonically,
(44:30):
brainwashed and they just want me to come, in LIKE
i said, earlier and wave a magic wand and make
it all. Better but they're not going to do anything
that you ask them to. Do on a spiritual, Level
they're not Gonna they're not gonna go get. BAPTIZED i
may talk some of them into going to a non
(44:50):
Denominational christian based church to get fully submerged in The holy,
waters but they're not going to go to A catholic
church and get baptized and start going going To mass
and receiving. Comedion why that's amazes me that a person
going through that type of horror would not be willing
to do.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
That is it Too is it too late by the
time they get. Possessed in order to go through the,
uh the the the courses and the rituals to become
a you, know a Baptized catholic in order to receive
The Holy communion and so on and so, forth the.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
Unclean spirit needs to be exercised first before the person
can start doing, that go To catechism and become.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
Baptized so let's say the person Is, protestant okay or,
ANGLE i can can you still perform the exorcism on them.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
When In? Rome you, know sometimes you have to Be
johnny on the spot and you do what you've got to.
Do sometimes the battle, pick you, know chooses. You you
don't choose the, battle and then you gotta do what
you gotta. Do But i've also learned THAT i Have
i've referred many many cases out to other teams and
(46:09):
other clergy that are better suited for that. Person, unfortunately you,
know my wife being A stephen minister in The Lutheran,
CHURCH i can you, know she can talk to The.
LUTHERANS i can talk to The christians and The. Catholics
i've even performed an exorcism or two on A jewish.
Person one EXORCISM i actually assisted A jewish exorcist in
(46:37):
this because when she first reached out to, me she, said,
OH i didn't know you Were, catholic you can't help.
ME i, said, ABSOLUTELY i can help, you AND i,
will and it meant it meant a lot to her
THAT i reached. Out it took some, Hunting BUT i
hunted down and found A jewish.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
Exorcist but if there's only, one if there's only One,
god why what wouldn't matter what denomination you, are if,
you as a member of the, clergy are doing an
exorcist to protect and to save one of his.
Speaker 7 (47:11):
Children, well it comes back to the power of faith
and the power of. Prayer these people need to believe
in what's going. On so this woman was much more
ready to totally buy in with this rabbi than she
was with, Me and that goes a long, way especially
(47:31):
during an. Exorcism these, people it's all part of these
people being the ones that have the true power to fight.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Back so is part of being possessed mind over.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
Matter there is a lot of mind over. Matter you
have to be you have to be ready to. Fight
you have to be ready to dig really, deep pull
some scabs off of some old. Wounds what it was
that caused you to be in this, situation and whoever's
(48:04):
there that's trying to help, you you need to help
them and fight. Back you need to. Fight, also you
can't you can't just leave it in the hands of
a priest, or a rabbi or a deliverance, minister you
have to be prepared to fight, too and everybody in that.
Family that's one Of satan's biggest goals is to demolish the.
(48:26):
Family very few exorcisms That i've attended or been a part,
of or took authority over what there was a family
wasn't a family. Involved there's always a family, involved and
he wants to destroy. That so you need to get
everybody in that family on, board or they or they
can't be present Because satan's in the. Mind he's living
(48:48):
rent free in the mind of every single person that's
in that room part of this. Thing that's why you've
got to be careful what you listen, to what you respond,
to and you just got to stay focused and stay in.
Prayer but these people have to learn how to fight.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
BACK i understand. THAT i understand. That but is it
not the demon that is in control during the during
the exorcism and not the person who is the host
of the. Demon and if it's the demon in who
is in, control how can how can the the host
(49:30):
of the demon be expected to fight?
Speaker 7 (49:32):
Back, well they have given at one point somewhere along
this roller coaster ride of they've done something to start
with that drew the attention of this, entity and then
somewhere along the line during the infestation stage and then
(49:52):
the oppression, stage they've done something to actually give permission
to this thing to. Attach and then once the was,
given then it just escalated until SOMETIMES i go into
these cases and that's as far as it's. Gone it
hasn't gone to a full blown possession. Yet but once
the possession has taken, Place god's always in. Control it's
(50:15):
Always god that's in. Control but the people when the
unclean spirit, manifests it's in control to a certain, degree
but the person is still in control of their. Soul
they just have this, invading unclean spirit that has entered
(50:37):
their shell and is manifesting through and is suppressing the person.
Behind but the demon doesn't have control of that person's.
Soul that person's essence is still. There so before any
of this even, begins hopefully they're in the right frame
of mind that they're ready to help you fight.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
Back but If god is in, Control god exercise the.
Speaker 7 (51:02):
DEMON i believe this is my humble, opinion AND i
don't have all the. Answers you AND i are going
to be having this discussion one day in heaven and
we'll have a nice laugh and a pint over all
the things we're going to know then that we don't know.
NOW i believe in many, circumstances AND i get asked
this question a. Lot you, know why Would god allow
(51:25):
that person to be? Possessed they're A god, fearing church
going person who hasn't done anything. Wrong AND i believe
sometimes the reason Why god allows this to take place
is because there's somebody close to that person that needs
to see that true evil does exist and then needs
(51:47):
to see That god exists in the power of divine.
Intervention and sometimes that can be the person that is under,
possession but many times it's somebody close to them that
needs to see That god always. INTENDS i believe that
person is going to ultimately be, saved but there's going
(52:08):
to be a process that we all have to go
through to get to that, point and somebody in that
person's immediate bubble close to them is in a position
that they need to witness, that they need to see
that true evil does, exist That god does, exist and
that there is such a thing as divine, intervention and
(52:29):
they need to see. That then, again possessions that take
place when people have just a lot of my clients
that come to me now are actually paranormal investigators without any.
Training they've gone to the wrong, place and they've been
there at the wrong, time and they've said and done
(52:50):
the wrong, thing and they have caused an attachment to
come upon, them and then they didn't realize the warning,
signs and they've allowed that to fester and, grow and
it gets pretty ugly pretty.
Speaker 6 (53:06):
Quick why would, you a man of the, cloth call
somebody who comes to you for help a. Client that
kind of just doesn't sound.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
RIGHT i never really thought about, it to be honest with.
You WHY i would call them a? Client probably old
old habits for many many years of just being a
paranormal investigator helping people that come to me for, help calling,
them you KNOW i have this client, now or probably old.
Speaker 6 (53:36):
HABIT i just thought i'd ask because it just kind
of sounded wrong coming from a man of the.
Speaker 7 (53:42):
Cloth, WELL i get a lot of people to, say
why is your website that dot? Biz is it a? Business?
WELL i have things on there for, sale like my.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Books you know you were telling, me you, know you
were telling me you've got a new book coming.
Speaker 7 (53:56):
AROUND i.
Speaker 6 (53:58):
Do, uh we've got about A milli. Left that's WHY
i figured we.
Speaker 7 (54:02):
Can if you go to my, website you'll see my
first two books. Right my first, Book God goes to
The Paranormal, Ministry God goes to The Paranormal mystry. Too
the new book is Help Me I'm. HAUNTED i co
wrote it with my, publisher who's a lifelong paranormal experiencer
and a paranormal enthusiast as you, Are, Rob and there's
(54:26):
also a lot of leading figures in the paranormal field
that contributed articles to. This and how that book came
along was people reaching out to me with all the
same questions over and over and over again that are experiencing.
STUFF i need help with? This how DO i get?
Help so we address all of the most popular and
(54:46):
some not so popular scary things that people are going
through and how they can get. Help and if you
buy it off Of, amazon it's a little that's, expensive
but off the, WEBSITE i autograph it and it to
you and a, house a beautiful, house blessing. Kid you
never know one of those are going to come in.
Handy so that's helped.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Me I'm Haunted Father Shawn. Weddington as, Always, sean time
goes by so, faster and you're with us. Again thank
you for the great work that you do and for
the people that you've helped over the. Years AND i
look forward to the next time you AND i meet
here in the Ex. Home but IF i don't speak
to you until Before, CHRISTMAS i want to wish you
and your family and all your friends a very Merry
(55:26):
christmas and a, happy, healthy demonic Free New.
Speaker 7 (55:31):
Year god bless, you. BROTHER i love. You god bless.
Everyone Happy thanksgiving to all the people In. America god bless, You.
ROB i love, you. Brother i'm gonna get you on
my show as soon AS i, can all.
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Right god bless, you. Buddy Explanation Father Sean whittington has
been our guest this. Hour well that's it for. Tonight
i'll be back tomorrow, night same, time same. Channel so until,
THEN i always keep your eyes to the sky and
your heart to the. Light good night, Everyone
Speaker 7 (56:00):
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