December 11, 2025 • 42 mins
In this enlightening edition of Rob McConnell Interviews, Rob welcomes Gary Gillette, metaphysical researcher, teacher, and explorer of consciousness, for an insightful journey into the world of the metaphysical. Gillette delves into the unseen forces that shape human experience—energy fields, intuition, spiritual awareness, synchronicity, and the multidimensional nature of reality. Drawing from years of study and personal exploration, he discusses how metaphysical principles influence everyday life, how individuals can tap into higher states of awareness, and why the boundaries between science and spirituality are rapidly fading. This engaging conversation invites listeners to expand their understanding of existence and consider that reality may be far more mysterious, interconnected, and purposeful than conventional thought allows.
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Definition Radio, Star Cable and x Zone TV. My guest
this hour is Gary Gillette. He is an award winning voice, actor, director, producer, performer,
humorist and teacher. Now heard in twenty two countries. He
can be heard in cartoons, movies, video games, audio books,
amusement parks as well as vending machines. I guess that's
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your coffee is ready. He's also a Shawman metaphysicist, teacher,
author and lecturer in the world of esoterech knowledge. And Gary,
welcome back to the X Zone.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Ron.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Tell me for the listeners who may not have been
with us the last time you gracedar airwaves with your voice.
How did you go from being a voice actor and
the work that you do in the media the multimedia
to Shaman metaphysicist, teacher and author and lecturer in the
world of esoteric knowledge.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I never really separated the two. I've always been into
metaphysics since I've had ND since I was a little boy,
and it's always been a part of my life. In fact,
doing the voice over stuff is a way to kind
of bring a message of joy and fun into a
world of what I consider metaphysics.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
How do you define a near death experience or ND.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I would say it's in some you know you've heard
it like a near death, I mean, and you come back,
but when you actually go to the other side, it's
more like beyond near death. It's like you are dead,
and you get to see the other side of the
realm of existence.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And then you come back.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
So they say it's near because you did come back,
but essentially you know you're A near death experience to
some people is not getting hit by car as they
walk across the street. To me, it's actually experiencing the
essence of the other side, your spiritual side, and learning
about that and then coming back and trying to figure
out what you're still doing as a human being.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
How many times did you die?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Gary, Well, four times?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
When was the most recent.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
The most recent was ten years ago as I crossed
the street with my fiance in seem Valley and didn't
We didn't quite make it across the street. We got
hit by drunk drivers. He's going about fifty miles an
hour and she died immediately and I died with her,
but I got to come back. So that was my
last time. I was ten years ago this year on Memorial.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Day, at the time when you both died. What do
you remember, if anything, Well, I.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Remember a lot, mostly inches with her out of the body. Phenomenal, exciting,
wonderful stuff together, just a joyousness of being together really
and playing and becoming different essences of being. At one
time we were living in an ice castle together and
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our love was so strong we were melting the ice,
which I thought was pretty, you know, pretty exciting. And
other times where where we just part of each other's
lives and animal form and spirit form and just enjoying
each other's company extremely to the point where you're just like,
why would I ever want to stop this? But one
day she just kind of smiled at me and pushed
me back. Wow, And that's when I knew that perhaps
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I wasn't going to stay with her in this particular essence,
this particular spiritual faction.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
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Welcome back to the excellent everyone. Gary Jillet's our special guest.
Two websites karmikreliefthbook dot com and metaliving dot org. What
was it like for you, Gary when your girlfriend basically
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said it's time for you to go back, it's not
your time.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, she was my fiance, which made it even more powerful.
The music you just played really hit home because that's
something she would would sing, you know, something like that.
It was very very spiritual in essence, but had had
a moment of strong humanity in her. In the case
of being with her, it was very very tough because
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I'd found what one might call, you know, your your soulmate,
and I was helping her explore her spiritual side that
she was just really understanding and getting into. And we
were just coming into each other's lives as extremely powerful
entities to help each other. So when I had to
leave her, especially in that form, even though out of
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the body, it didn't seem like it was anything different
than being in the body, essentially, except that everything is
so much bigger, so much more vibrant, the colors, the
sound is unbelievable. And to have to leave that was very,
very tough, especially knowing that I was coming into a
body that was very much broken up, and you know,
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and I'd probably have to learn to walk again, which
which was the case.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
How long were you on the other side with.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Her on my last one or like, yeah, with her,
I think it was just a few minutes in human time,
or they didn't give me an exact time. I remember
sometimes they told me how much it was, you know,
but in this case, they didn't really tell me a
time other.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Than to me it seemed like weeks.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And I know I was in ICU for five weeks,
so it was probably gonna out quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The other three times when you died, were they the same?
Was it? You know? I've heard so many stories from
people who have had near death experiences where they go
through the life review and then they go at the
end of the tunnel, and there's a deity that basically
turns them around and says, no, it's not your time yet,
or a loved one. Did this happen to you? And
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the other three experiences that you had as well?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
When I was first born, I died what they would
call a sudden infandescinedo mercids, I guess they call it now.
So then I was told that the reason I was
coming back into human form, And there's about many entities
around me, many lovely called guardian angels, etc. Telling me
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that my brother had died and eight years before I
was born, and that they'd already taken him and he'd
already gone back to his home, the home wherever you
want to call.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
It, the different spiritual essence.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
So they said that basically, you're going back because they've
had two daughters since you, and they really really wanted
to send and we cannot take another son from this family,
from this couple, because that's really all they prayed for,
that's what they wanted.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
So you're going back.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And I thought, well, okay, if I have to, but
really I kind of like being here again. And they said, well,
you have a lot to learn, a lot to teach,
and you're going to have a very busy life. So
that was the essence of the first time. When I
was eight years old. The second time came, and that's
when I was in a very unusual accident or a
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lawnmower picked up a bolt used to attach transformers onto
these poles, these electric poles, and it was shot for
malamore into my neck and I died for six minutes.
I watched him operate on me. If you go to
my website, you can see a picture of me on
the operating table with a bolt sticking out of my neck.
Don't worry, it's not gruesome. It's just one of those
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things where I go wow. And this is what I
witnessed from the ceiling essentially as they operated on me.
And I remember thinking it's too bad because he was
such a nice boy. And I wait a minute, that's
my favorite shirt, and that dawned on me that probably
won't be needed that shirt where I'm going. And that
was they say six minutes. But at that point I
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was told that I was still not sticking around. I
could hit the gift store on the way out. I
had a lot of stuff to do on Earth, so
enjoy my time here, but I was going back and
I said, you know, in my impudence as an eight
year old, I remember.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Saying, well, so when can I come home?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And they basically alluded that once your mother has passed,
the doors will be open for you, and that that
was the answer I got. And I pretty much lived
my life for a long long time until the third one,
which with my fiance and I had told her. Listen,
they told me this when I was eight years old,
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and she said, well, I almost wish I hadn't told
me that, And I said, well, it's not like I'm
gonna step in front of a truck or something. Can
you imagine? That's the way I've phraised it. And that's
exactly what happened on the third one.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What about fourth one?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
The fourth one was when I flat lined when they
were operating on me trying to get my body back together.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Have you ever asked those that you see or communicate
with on the other side why you four times?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's not something I think of as terms of numbers.
I keep kind of asking why I am being sent
back again? Not in a way that oh my god,
why are you doing this to me? But more like
what is my mission. What have I not accomplished yet?
And I'm still looking for that on a daily basis
now to completely liquefy all my belongings and move to
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someplace where I can, you know, live where I can
just grow my own vegetables and live in a peaceful
environment where I don't have to think about ridiculous things.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I'm looking for a place where I can you know,
maybe a Maui or even you know, somewhere into Panga Hills,
because I'm not too far from there, but I'm thinking
someplace where I could just be who I am, teach
metaphysics to those who want to learn it, live on
the land like I'm supposed to do, like I've done
many times in past lives, and not think about, Oh
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my gosh, you know, I just can't make sense of
my life. I'm still trying to kind of find it
on a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Did that answer your question? Because I don't know how
far off I went on that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
One, Well you answered it in all honesty, so yes,
it did answer my question.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Okay, you know, the answers I get when I go
inside to meditate are basically the answers I get when
I leave the body after I have so called the
essence of here's what we want you to do, here's
what you can do, here's what your I don't know,
your your clarity of purposes on earth, and find that
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keep looking, keep looking. Everything you do is leading to
that answer. So they don't really go, Okay, you're gonna
do this, and you're gonna do this, and then this happens,
and this happens. They say, you know, with total volition,
you are free to make these decisions, and each decision
will change in essence, how you come to your truth?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Why do they keep it a mystery? Why can't we
just be told?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
That is probably the mine dollar question I would like.
I think I'll put a chapter devoted to you in
that question in my book, since I'm still writing a
lot of it, even though I've I've done some pre
sales on it, and I have a lot of things
to offer people who want to know more now, like
I have PDFs on lucid dreaming and stuff like that.
(14:58):
But the question I think is best answered by they,
And I'm saying, the entities look at us as energy
forms who are still learning, and if they give us
too much information, perhaps will change the way we find
our own path. And I think that if we look inside,
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we do find their answers, and we do find the
truth to who we think we are, who we can be.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Who are they? Who are these entities?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well, in my case, they were my brother people who
had passed on before I was born, and as I
was alive. My grandparents now are one of them who
had visited me when he died, my mom my father
now although at the time, again it depends on when
you look at the so called timeline of death. There
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is no time space continuing out of the body. So
you can visit and ask questions of anyone anything and
they will do their best to answer you. So I
don't think it's necessarily I mean, you have guardian angels,
and you have many, many things like when I heard
that song when we came back in from the from
the commercial time, I felt Laura's energy around me, very powerful.
That's my that's my fiance, and I know she's right
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here with me because I can hear her laughing, so
stop it. So eventually, essentially we are constantly in contact
with these We don't have to go outside, we don't
have to find this extrinsically. Jesus Christ said, you know,
the answer, the truth to who we are is found
within And I think most Buddha, Confuciusts, Mohammed, they all
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said the same thing, that we aren't separate from that
which we think is a part of us that we
can't see.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
So why don't we accept the world that you just
described with the different masters and the connection between the
great beyond as reality? And why do we always or
why does societ he put it in a negative context
and basically say it doesn't exist, it's all imaginary. It's
poop poo.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Wow. That's a heck of a phrasing. It's poopoo. I
mean that's what you said.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, that was that was for you, because you see,
I know that you do vending machines and amusement machines.
So plus I can't I can't use what I was
thinking on air.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Oh yeah, so now what you're thinking, and we can
change it to many of the languages, but I shall
refrain from doing that at the moment.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Uh No.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But essentially, uh that is a control factor. It is
saying that if you don't do what we say, you're
supposed to do as we say, it, then you go
into a place that is either bloody awful or you'll
never understand.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay. And if they, or if we were to find.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Out the truth of who we actually are as spiritual beings,
these entities, these amazing entities of phenomenal power, which uh
you know, let's face it, the illuminatium mini others head
through throughout history have said, here's the answer. If we
found that out, we would be so empowered that we
wouldn't take the b s, the poo poo that we
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get from our governments. We wouldn't take the nonsense that
we get from the people or government or institutions, any
institution that says you are wrong and we are right,
because we say we are. We have to look at
that as a point of viewers. We know this, we
can remember this, but we're told lies and we have
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to find our way around this. We have to find
our way to our own truth.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Stand by you and I have to take our break
with the news at the bottom of the hour. Gary
Jillett's our special guest ex oanation. Two websites Carmik Relief,
the book dot Com, and Metal Metal Metal Living. Jeez,
I was gonna say Metal Living Metal Metaliving dot Org.
We'll be back on the other side of this break.
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Gary Jillet's our special guest. This our explanation www dot
Comic reliefthbook dot com and Metaaliving dot org. Gary, what
do you want to teach the world?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Well, basically that we have the ability to empower ourselves
and others through our spirituality. Through that we can we
can look at ourselves as humans and you know, with
the spiritual form, and we can look ourselves as spirits in.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
A human form.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And by doing I believe the latter, we can really
find out what we can do to make Earth the
best place that we can make it, you know, for
humans until we passed to the next you know, facet
of ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
What do our dreams tell us? And where does dreaming
fit into the reality, into the entire scheme between what
we call this world of reality and the world of spirituality.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I think there are link I think there are a
bridge to the spiritual selves. I know that I like
to program lucid dreams and I like to have a
lot of fun in them. Like last night, I remember
going to a twin universe of Earth and there were
twins literally twins, and I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed
being in at wherever that was, and I didn't. I
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didn't ask for that, but that's where I went. So
I had a good time with it. And I really
think that we can ask our dreams questions, and that
part of us, that higher essence of ourselves, will help
us find the answers, will help us look around and say, oh, well,
here's something you may not have considered. Here's I mean.
Don't forget Einstein. Many, many wonderful people of science and
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metaphysics use dreams to answer questions, to find out more
information about their higher selves.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What do you use dreams for?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Essentially that Sometimes I just dream because it feels good,
because I'm sleeping, and that's where I go. Other times
I do like to say, oh, wow, you know, what
would be a really good thing to try to understand
would be maybe my next steps, maybe more of a
clarity of purpose, Maybe maybe talking to the other entities
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on the other side, and find out maybe what I
can do to increase my quality of life, not from possessions,
but from knowledge and love.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
How can we use the other side to better ourselves
on this side?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Well, I guess just by by realizing that we do
have that as a library. Mikashak records, if you will
a place where we can say, you know this is
this is a storehouse of information that we can access,
and we can do that through meditation as well. I
believe the two aren't mutually exclusive. I think the two
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have a lot in common because we are looking inside
for answers and we are looking to find maybe other
entities or spirits to help us find these answers.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
How would one go about learning how to do lucid dreaming?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Gary, Well, I'll send a PDF to anybody who wants
to go. You know, anybody listening now, I'd be happy
to If you go to my website, I'll be happy
to send you a PDF on that. But basic outline
is that you decide that you are.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Going to.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
In a lucid dream. Things change very quickly as in
any dream, right, but in a lucid dream you realize it.
So here's the key. The key is to pick up
something with writing on it, anything, a newspaper, I've done that,
coins anything that has writing on it, look at it
and then put it down, and then look at it again.
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It will be it'll be different, Yeah, it'll be it'll
be different. And when you realize that, you go wait
a minute. In my so called real life, I look
at something and I put it down, I look at
it again. It's pretty much the same, and it is
exactly the same, so it'll be different every time you
do it. And then you say, wait a minute. Okay,
Now I know.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I'm an a lucid dream.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
See when I dream. When I dream, I look for
signs or words that I can't read. For example, the
front page of a newspaper it makes no sense to me.
And then I look at a street sign it makes
no sense to me, or or a sign on a store.
Then I know I'm lucid dreaming. And that's when the
fun begins and they probably there you go, sure, if
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you do that, then you can no.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I'm kidding, of course, because of course you speak French
and that's probably not the language you're having trouble with.
For me, I study many languages over the years, probably.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
About twelve languages.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
So if I find something that is totally hard to read,
I think that's probably a good key as well. So
that's probably a good key for you is to look
at it and say, wait a minute, I can't read this,
but do you become more curious about it? To find
out what it's trying to tell you, or do you
seek to translate it to a language you do understand.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I just realized that. I just realized that I'm in
a dream, and now whatever I want to do, I
can now see.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I thought I was talking to you for real, So
this is a dream. I kind of suspected that because
I was looking at my email and a change.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
But I think I just opened the other email.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I think so too.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
No, No, of course, no, I think that once you
do realize it's a dream, then what I do, and
I'm a crazy person, I head for the nearest high
point and leap off and see if I can fly.
If I can't, then I know it's in the dreamline dead,
and then big deal. I'm got it back anyway. But
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I try to find that empowerment.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
What happens if you don't the next time, the next time,
you don't come back. If I know what, if you
don't come back.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Then I'll have done my business. I mean, you have
this recording. People can go to the archives and say
that's one more schmuck that did it. But he could
while he was here, and now he's gone, and maybe
I'll see him in a dream, or maybe he'll contact
me another way, who knows. But I've made a small
imprint on the soul of humanity.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you think That imprint is.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Love?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Sharing love, and everybody does that. I mean, we do
it in many different ways. Sometimes we get confused and
it comes out as a negative what we think of
as a negative connotation.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But we look at love and if.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
We think of it as something we can share without
ever having to worry about getting some back, that we're
always going to have some more than enough to give.
But if we think of it as something that if
we give it away, we're either not going to get
it back unconditionally, which is a very strange kind of concept,
or we're not going to get it back enough to
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feel what we believe to be our souls.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Because when we give it away freely, and I can
give it away to stranger on the street, I don't
feel that I need to have it back in the
same form for me to feel okay about giving it away.
It's something that you could never run out of.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
If you choose.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
If you love yourself, you could love others one hundred percent.
If you don't love yourself, then you're going to have
to find a way to do so. And from that
point of view, at least in my opinion, and from
that point of view, if you love yourself, then everything
is okay because you live in a world of love
and you don't live in a world of fear or
hate or lack or or or something where people say,
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oh my god, this is never going to happen. This
is never going to make sense to me. It will
make sense because you choose to have it make sense.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Plus, if you can't love yourself, no one else can.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I believe that to be true, because if you don't
love yourself, other people look at you and say, wow,
I love them. But if they can't love themselves, I
don't really feel that my love is getting through.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
That's the weirdest thing, in my opinion that anything can
even be imagined, is that your ego. You can be
put that aside, because the ego is trying to define
who you are as a human being. But if you
can define yourself as a being of pure energy and
pure love, then the ego doesn't have to get in
the way. The ego doesn't need to say, oh wait
a minute, I'm not getting loved from this person. I'm
not getting loved from this. You look at the animals
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and they say, I love you unconditionally. It's nice when
you freed me, but I can love you unconditionally. And
why can't humans realize that this is possible for humans
as well?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I guess they, like you were saying, The ego kicks in.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Absolutely. The ego defines who we are. We look in
the room and.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Say, okay, I am around fifty years old, I have
lost my hair, I am pretty good shape because I
played tennis. I get some sleep, and I'm healthy and
I eat healthy foods. But wait a minute, this is
just the outer. This is how I keep the physicality.
This is how I keep the physical part of me alive.
But there's so much more that I can't even begin
to share in any language. Because everyone sees this in themselves.
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They say who am I?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Who am I?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Really? What am I doing here? And the ego says,
oh yeah, well, let me see.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You're an actor and your father and you do this,
and you do this and you want a car. No,
that's insane, But the ego says, well, that's all I
can give you. When you give a child a toy,
he associates that toy with who he is. Try taking
that toy away and see what happens. The ego says, Oh, no, no,
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that's me.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
That that ball is now a part of who I am.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I look at that ball and I see the stars,
and I see the little stripes on it, and I
see all these pretty colors, I see these multi.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
It's that's who I am. That's me. If I can't
identify with this who am I. So we go throughout
our entire.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Life surrounding ourselves with these, these these things, these objects
who try to define who we are. As I look
around this room, I know that these objects mean nothing,
But yet they tell me, oh, yes, you do this,
and this is because of this. You have this award
from this, and you have this from here, and this
defines who you thought you were, and this colors you
and this looks good on you. And you do this
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and when you do this, people say, oh, that looks
so good on you.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
But that's insanity.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
That's that's absolutely My definition has been said is looking
around the world and trying to use it to define
who you are. And I think everybody, everybody goes through this.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
How did you become a shaman?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I think I have little choice in the matter in
that I knew that spirituality went way beyond any kind
of religion to me, So I explored all religions as
much as I possibly could. And I guess the idea
of Daoism made the most sense to me because my
path is constant. My path is who I am, but
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only as far as the path itself. If I'm looking
for a destination, then the path is meaningless. The path
is the destination. And once I realized that, I said,
you know, I believe that we can become more. And
that's when I decided that I was going to explore
this avenue of who I was.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Explanation Gary Gillet's are a special guest this hour. Www
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dot Org. How can you laugh at the idea of dying?
Is because you know that life is worse than death?
Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Hold on one second, I'm trying to restrain that until
you finish your sentence your question.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, absolutely, you have.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
To, because not because it is makes more sense? Is
it because it is who we are when we die?
We are who we truly are instead of again this facet,
this this illusion, this maya of being on this planet
and trying to make sense of it. So I have
(32:24):
to laugh because this is absurd. Our definition of being
alive is rather absurd, and that we honestly don't think
that anybody else is like us.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
We honestly look around.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
And say, you know, we have to use divisiveness because
that person is black, or that person is shorter, that
person is fat, or that person is handicapped. Oh my god,
that is just insane. If you can look at somebody
and say that's the reason I want. I am different
from you. You are just I don't know. You're in
a forest of trees, but you don't see that you.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Are a tree.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You're looking outside of the forest to say who am
I instead of saying I am everything. My favorite thing
in metaphysics is the essence or the idea of entanglement,
which is to say we are a part of everything
that we can see or hear, or imagine or taste
or anything.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
We are part of that.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
So to separate ourselves from that is absolute insanity, and
that is being a human. So, yeah, dying is pretty good.
But then we move on to another state and many
other states actually from what I understand, and then we
also become more of who we truly are instead of
who we think we are.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Having been dead four times and come back four times,
do you find yourself taking risks with your life or
you're more careful? Do you value life more now?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I think the Jois de vill is very powerful and
there's no reason to think that life is anything more
than precious as a gift in a learning tool, it's
a learning a way to learn, in a way to
empower yourself in the universe because you're finding questions, you're
finding answers to questions that are really part of the cosmos.
(34:15):
So I don't I don't go out of my way
to do things that I think will endanger my life.
I have done the highest bunge in the world to
one of them in New Zealand. I have swum with sharks.
I have done many things that I think are part
of the joy of life. I don't think that, you know,
I mean, I ride motorcycle occasionally. I don't think that
(34:37):
it's something where I it's like a death kind of
thing where I say, oh my god. If I take
more risks. I'm going to get there sooner.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And I don't.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I'm not I'm not a person who says I can't
cross the street anymore because I was once hit by
a truck as I cross the street. I'm not a
person to say, oh, this, this will never work because
I can't. You know, I don't know what the outcome
will be. So no, I think I take more risks
because I'm not afraid to be alive.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
So you don't consider yourself to be immortal.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well yeah, just not as a human.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
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The book dot com, metalliving dot RG. Gary, to you,
what is the meaning of life?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
To live?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
I guess just to be alive and explore the essence
of humanity. I mean, as far as life in this form.
I believe that if we look at everything is a
learning experience, everything is an unfolding, then the meaning is
self evident.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, what's next for Gary Gillette?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
I think the next thing for me is to find,
like I think I alluded to in the beginning, a
nice little place where I can grow my own vegetables
and maybe have people come by and I could teach
them metaphysics. If anybody's out there who wants me to
be a living metaphysicist and I'm also a massage therapist,
I will be more than happy to consider that arrangement
(39:47):
because I just need something simple. I don't need complication,
and my life has been full of complications. I'm not
looking for maybe a place either in Topanga or Maui,
or someplace where it's beautiful and has a positive energy,
that it can be who I really am instead of
who I you know, instead of just just just being
you know. I mean, I think it's just time for
(40:07):
a change, and I like shaking things up. I don't
mind just moving on and being something completely different.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Here, here's a question for you. How does somebody know
that where they're living has a lot of negative energy
and not positive energy.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
A lot of times, as spiritual entities, as psychic beings
which we are, we can feel that, and we when
we don't, we don't respond well to it, or we
feel sick, or we just are getting what they call
energy vampires around us that are trying to pull in
our energy for them because they don't have a powerful
(40:44):
energy response for themselves. They don't don't know how to
get to that. So I would say a lot of
times it's just a feeling you get, and we all
were very aware, and we don't Sometimes will deny this
or we won't realize it, but we're very aware of
what we're supposed to be doing, and a lot of
times will even sabotage things to create a life that
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we think that we're actually supposed to be living.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
So it sounds like at times we can be our
own worst enemies.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
I believe that to be true, in that we don't
know our path most of the time, so we're looking
at a way to get there and sometimes the way
we get there is very you know, circumnavigation we're compared
to perhaps the way we thought we were going to
get there.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Hey, hey, Gary, we've run out of time for tonight,
but I want to thank you so much for coming
on the show and sharing your stories with us. And
i'd also like to give you congratulations for your new
book that's available for pre orders, The Spiritual Guidebook.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
I appreciate that. It's always fun to be on your show.
I look forward to doing this again sometime. If I
might spell the website rule, do go ahead. It's k
A R AM I C t h E b O
O k dot com and Metalaliving dot org, which is
m E t A l I v I n G
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dot O r G.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
So that'll give you an idea. Maybe you know to
to link.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
We've got to say, so long, buddy. We'll make sure
that people do get your links. I'll be back on
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Ron.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Tell me for the listeners who may not have been
with us the last time you gracedar airwaves with your voice.
How did you go from being a voice actor and
the work that you do in the media the multimedia
to Shaman metaphysicist, teacher and author and lecturer in the
world of esoteric knowledge.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I never really separated the two. I've always been into
metaphysics since I've had ND since I was a little boy,
and it's always been a part of my life. In fact,
doing the voice over stuff is a way to kind
of bring a message of joy and fun into a
world of what I consider metaphysics.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
How do you define a near death experience or ND.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I would say it's in some you know you've heard
it like a near death, I mean, and you come back,
but when you actually go to the other side, it's
more like beyond near death. It's like you are dead,
and you get to see the other side of the
realm of existence.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And then you come back.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
So they say it's near because you did come back,
but essentially you know you're A near death experience to
some people is not getting hit by car as they
walk across the street. To me, it's actually experiencing the
essence of the other side, your spiritual side, and learning
about that and then coming back and trying to figure
out what you're still doing as a human being.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
How many times did you die?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Gary, Well, four times?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
When was the most recent.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
The most recent was ten years ago as I crossed
the street with my fiance in seem Valley and didn't
We didn't quite make it across the street. We got
hit by drunk drivers. He's going about fifty miles an
hour and she died immediately and I died with her,
but I got to come back. So that was my
last time. I was ten years ago this year on Memorial.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Day, at the time when you both died. What do
you remember, if anything, Well, I.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Remember a lot, mostly inches with her out of the body. Phenomenal, exciting,
wonderful stuff together, just a joyousness of being together really
and playing and becoming different essences of being. At one
time we were living in an ice castle together and
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our love was so strong we were melting the ice,
which I thought was pretty, you know, pretty exciting. And
other times where where we just part of each other's
lives and animal form and spirit form and just enjoying
each other's company extremely to the point where you're just like,
why would I ever want to stop this? But one
day she just kind of smiled at me and pushed
me back. Wow, And that's when I knew that perhaps
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I wasn't going to stay with her in this particular essence,
this particular spiritual faction.
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Welcome back to the excellent everyone. Gary Jillet's our special guest.
Two websites karmikreliefthbook dot com and metaliving dot org. What
was it like for you, Gary when your girlfriend basically
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said it's time for you to go back, it's not
your time.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, she was my fiance, which made it even more powerful.
The music you just played really hit home because that's
something she would would sing, you know, something like that.
It was very very spiritual in essence, but had had
a moment of strong humanity in her. In the case
of being with her, it was very very tough because
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I'd found what one might call, you know, your your soulmate,
and I was helping her explore her spiritual side that
she was just really understanding and getting into. And we
were just coming into each other's lives as extremely powerful
entities to help each other. So when I had to
leave her, especially in that form, even though out of
(08:19):
the body, it didn't seem like it was anything different
than being in the body, essentially, except that everything is
so much bigger, so much more vibrant, the colors, the
sound is unbelievable. And to have to leave that was very,
very tough, especially knowing that I was coming into a
body that was very much broken up, and you know,
(08:39):
and I'd probably have to learn to walk again, which
which was the case.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
How long were you on the other side with.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Her on my last one or like, yeah, with her,
I think it was just a few minutes in human time,
or they didn't give me an exact time. I remember
sometimes they told me how much it was, you know,
but in this case, they didn't really tell me a
time other.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Than to me it seemed like weeks.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And I know I was in ICU for five weeks,
so it was probably gonna out quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The other three times when you died, were they the same?
Was it? You know? I've heard so many stories from
people who have had near death experiences where they go
through the life review and then they go at the
end of the tunnel, and there's a deity that basically
turns them around and says, no, it's not your time yet,
or a loved one. Did this happen to you? And
(09:37):
the other three experiences that you had as well?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
When I was first born, I died what they would
call a sudden infandescinedo mercids, I guess they call it now.
So then I was told that the reason I was
coming back into human form, And there's about many entities
around me, many lovely called guardian angels, etc. Telling me
(10:02):
that my brother had died and eight years before I
was born, and that they'd already taken him and he'd
already gone back to his home, the home wherever you
want to call.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
It, the different spiritual essence.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
So they said that basically, you're going back because they've
had two daughters since you, and they really really wanted
to send and we cannot take another son from this family,
from this couple, because that's really all they prayed for,
that's what they wanted.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
So you're going back.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And I thought, well, okay, if I have to, but
really I kind of like being here again. And they said, well,
you have a lot to learn, a lot to teach,
and you're going to have a very busy life. So
that was the essence of the first time. When I
was eight years old. The second time came, and that's
when I was in a very unusual accident or a
(10:52):
lawnmower picked up a bolt used to attach transformers onto
these poles, these electric poles, and it was shot for
malamore into my neck and I died for six minutes.
I watched him operate on me. If you go to
my website, you can see a picture of me on
the operating table with a bolt sticking out of my neck.
Don't worry, it's not gruesome. It's just one of those
(11:12):
things where I go wow. And this is what I
witnessed from the ceiling essentially as they operated on me.
And I remember thinking it's too bad because he was
such a nice boy. And I wait a minute, that's
my favorite shirt, and that dawned on me that probably
won't be needed that shirt where I'm going. And that
was they say six minutes. But at that point I
(11:35):
was told that I was still not sticking around. I
could hit the gift store on the way out. I
had a lot of stuff to do on Earth, so
enjoy my time here, but I was going back and
I said, you know, in my impudence as an eight
year old, I remember.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Saying, well, so when can I come home?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And they basically alluded that once your mother has passed,
the doors will be open for you, and that that
was the answer I got. And I pretty much lived
my life for a long long time until the third one,
which with my fiance and I had told her. Listen,
they told me this when I was eight years old,
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and she said, well, I almost wish I hadn't told
me that, And I said, well, it's not like I'm
gonna step in front of a truck or something. Can
you imagine? That's the way I've phraised it. And that's
exactly what happened on the third one.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What about fourth one?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
The fourth one was when I flat lined when they
were operating on me trying to get my body back together.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Have you ever asked those that you see or communicate
with on the other side why you four times?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's not something I think of as terms of numbers.
I keep kind of asking why I am being sent
back again? Not in a way that oh my god,
why are you doing this to me? But more like
what is my mission. What have I not accomplished yet?
And I'm still looking for that on a daily basis
now to completely liquefy all my belongings and move to
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someplace where I can, you know, live where I can
just grow my own vegetables and live in a peaceful
environment where I don't have to think about ridiculous things.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I'm looking for a place where I can you know,
maybe a Maui or even you know, somewhere into Panga Hills,
because I'm not too far from there, but I'm thinking
someplace where I could just be who I am, teach
metaphysics to those who want to learn it, live on
the land like I'm supposed to do, like I've done
many times in past lives, and not think about, Oh
(13:34):
my gosh, you know, I just can't make sense of
my life. I'm still trying to kind of find it
on a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Did that answer your question? Because I don't know how
far off I went on that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
One, Well you answered it in all honesty, so yes,
it did answer my question.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Okay, you know, the answers I get when I go
inside to meditate are basically the answers I get when
I leave the body after I have so called the
essence of here's what we want you to do, here's
what you can do, here's what your I don't know,
your your clarity of purposes on earth, and find that
(14:12):
keep looking, keep looking. Everything you do is leading to
that answer. So they don't really go, Okay, you're gonna
do this, and you're gonna do this, and then this happens,
and this happens. They say, you know, with total volition,
you are free to make these decisions, and each decision
will change in essence, how you come to your truth?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Why do they keep it a mystery? Why can't we
just be told?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
That is probably the mine dollar question I would like.
I think I'll put a chapter devoted to you in
that question in my book, since I'm still writing a
lot of it, even though I've I've done some pre
sales on it, and I have a lot of things
to offer people who want to know more now, like
I have PDFs on lucid dreaming and stuff like that.
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But the question I think is best answered by they,
And I'm saying, the entities look at us as energy
forms who are still learning, and if they give us
too much information, perhaps will change the way we find
our own path. And I think that if we look inside,
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we do find their answers, and we do find the
truth to who we think we are, who we can be.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Who are they? Who are these entities?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well, in my case, they were my brother people who
had passed on before I was born, and as I
was alive. My grandparents now are one of them who
had visited me when he died, my mom my father
now although at the time, again it depends on when
you look at the so called timeline of death. There
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is no time space continuing out of the body. So
you can visit and ask questions of anyone anything and
they will do their best to answer you. So I
don't think it's necessarily I mean, you have guardian angels,
and you have many, many things like when I heard
that song when we came back in from the from
the commercial time, I felt Laura's energy around me, very powerful.
That's my that's my fiance, and I know she's right
(16:17):
here with me because I can hear her laughing, so
stop it. So eventually, essentially we are constantly in contact
with these We don't have to go outside, we don't
have to find this extrinsically. Jesus Christ said, you know,
the answer, the truth to who we are is found
within And I think most Buddha, Confuciusts, Mohammed, they all
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said the same thing, that we aren't separate from that
which we think is a part of us that we
can't see.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
So why don't we accept the world that you just
described with the different masters and the connection between the
great beyond as reality? And why do we always or
why does societ he put it in a negative context
and basically say it doesn't exist, it's all imaginary. It's
poop poo.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Wow. That's a heck of a phrasing. It's poopoo. I
mean that's what you said.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, that was that was for you, because you see,
I know that you do vending machines and amusement machines.
So plus I can't I can't use what I was
thinking on air.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Oh yeah, so now what you're thinking, and we can
change it to many of the languages, but I shall
refrain from doing that at the moment.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Uh No.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But essentially, uh that is a control factor. It is
saying that if you don't do what we say, you're
supposed to do as we say, it, then you go
into a place that is either bloody awful or you'll
never understand.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay. And if they, or if we were to find.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Out the truth of who we actually are as spiritual beings,
these entities, these amazing entities of phenomenal power, which uh
you know, let's face it, the illuminatium mini others head
through throughout history have said, here's the answer. If we
found that out, we would be so empowered that we
wouldn't take the b s, the poo poo that we
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get from our governments. We wouldn't take the nonsense that
we get from the people or government or institutions, any
institution that says you are wrong and we are right,
because we say we are. We have to look at
that as a point of viewers. We know this, we
can remember this, but we're told lies and we have
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to find our way around this. We have to find
our way to our own truth.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
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Gary Jillet's our special guest. This our explanation www dot
Comic reliefthbook dot com and Metaaliving dot org. Gary, what
do you want to teach the world?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Well, basically that we have the ability to empower ourselves
and others through our spirituality. Through that we can we
can look at ourselves as humans and you know, with
the spiritual form, and we can look ourselves as spirits in.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
A human form.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And by doing I believe the latter, we can really
find out what we can do to make Earth the
best place that we can make it, you know, for
humans until we passed to the next you know, facet
of ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
What do our dreams tell us? And where does dreaming
fit into the reality, into the entire scheme between what
we call this world of reality and the world of spirituality.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I think there are link I think there are a
bridge to the spiritual selves. I know that I like
to program lucid dreams and I like to have a
lot of fun in them. Like last night, I remember
going to a twin universe of Earth and there were
twins literally twins, and I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed
being in at wherever that was, and I didn't. I
(21:52):
didn't ask for that, but that's where I went. So
I had a good time with it. And I really
think that we can ask our dreams questions, and that
part of us, that higher essence of ourselves, will help
us find the answers, will help us look around and say, oh, well,
here's something you may not have considered. Here's I mean.
Don't forget Einstein. Many, many wonderful people of science and
(22:17):
metaphysics use dreams to answer questions, to find out more
information about their higher selves.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What do you use dreams for?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Essentially that Sometimes I just dream because it feels good,
because I'm sleeping, and that's where I go. Other times
I do like to say, oh, wow, you know, what
would be a really good thing to try to understand
would be maybe my next steps, maybe more of a
clarity of purpose, Maybe maybe talking to the other entities
(22:48):
on the other side, and find out maybe what I
can do to increase my quality of life, not from possessions,
but from knowledge and love.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
How can we use the other side to better ourselves
on this side?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Well, I guess just by by realizing that we do
have that as a library. Mikashak records, if you will
a place where we can say, you know this is
this is a storehouse of information that we can access,
and we can do that through meditation as well. I
believe the two aren't mutually exclusive. I think the two
(23:26):
have a lot in common because we are looking inside
for answers and we are looking to find maybe other
entities or spirits to help us find these answers.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
How would one go about learning how to do lucid dreaming?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Gary, Well, I'll send a PDF to anybody who wants
to go. You know, anybody listening now, I'd be happy
to If you go to my website, I'll be happy
to send you a PDF on that. But basic outline
is that you decide that you are.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Going to.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
In a lucid dream. Things change very quickly as in
any dream, right, but in a lucid dream you realize it.
So here's the key. The key is to pick up
something with writing on it, anything, a newspaper, I've done that,
coins anything that has writing on it, look at it
and then put it down, and then look at it again.
(24:22):
It will be it'll be different, Yeah, it'll be it'll
be different. And when you realize that, you go wait
a minute. In my so called real life, I look
at something and I put it down, I look at
it again. It's pretty much the same, and it is
exactly the same, so it'll be different every time you
do it. And then you say, wait a minute. Okay,
Now I know.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I'm an a lucid dream.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
See when I dream. When I dream, I look for
signs or words that I can't read. For example, the
front page of a newspaper it makes no sense to me.
And then I look at a street sign it makes
no sense to me, or or a sign on a store.
Then I know I'm lucid dreaming. And that's when the
fun begins and they probably there you go, sure, if
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you do that, then you can no.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I'm kidding, of course, because of course you speak French
and that's probably not the language you're having trouble with.
For me, I study many languages over the years, probably.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
About twelve languages.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
So if I find something that is totally hard to read,
I think that's probably a good key as well. So
that's probably a good key for you is to look
at it and say, wait a minute, I can't read this,
but do you become more curious about it? To find
out what it's trying to tell you, or do you
seek to translate it to a language you do understand.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I just realized that. I just realized that I'm in
a dream, and now whatever I want to do, I
can now see.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I thought I was talking to you for real, So
this is a dream. I kind of suspected that because
I was looking at my email and a change.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
But I think I just opened the other email.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I think so too.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
No, No, of course, no, I think that once you
do realize it's a dream, then what I do, and
I'm a crazy person, I head for the nearest high
point and leap off and see if I can fly.
If I can't, then I know it's in the dreamline dead,
and then big deal. I'm got it back anyway. But
(26:11):
I try to find that empowerment.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
What happens if you don't the next time, the next time,
you don't come back. If I know what, if you
don't come back.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Then I'll have done my business. I mean, you have
this recording. People can go to the archives and say
that's one more schmuck that did it. But he could
while he was here, and now he's gone, and maybe
I'll see him in a dream, or maybe he'll contact
me another way, who knows. But I've made a small
imprint on the soul of humanity.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you think That imprint is.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Love?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Sharing love, and everybody does that. I mean, we do
it in many different ways. Sometimes we get confused and
it comes out as a negative what we think of
as a negative connotation.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
But we look at love and if.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
We think of it as something we can share without
ever having to worry about getting some back, that we're
always going to have some more than enough to give.
But if we think of it as something that if
we give it away, we're either not going to get
it back unconditionally, which is a very strange kind of concept,
or we're not going to get it back enough to
(27:17):
feel what we believe to be our souls.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Because when we give it away freely, and I can
give it away to stranger on the street, I don't
feel that I need to have it back in the
same form for me to feel okay about giving it away.
It's something that you could never run out of.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
If you choose.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
If you love yourself, you could love others one hundred percent.
If you don't love yourself, then you're going to have
to find a way to do so. And from that
point of view, at least in my opinion, and from
that point of view, if you love yourself, then everything
is okay because you live in a world of love
and you don't live in a world of fear or
hate or lack or or or something where people say,
(28:01):
oh my god, this is never going to happen. This
is never going to make sense to me. It will
make sense because you choose to have it make sense.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Plus, if you can't love yourself, no one else can.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I believe that to be true, because if you don't
love yourself, other people look at you and say, wow,
I love them. But if they can't love themselves, I
don't really feel that my love is getting through.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
That's the weirdest thing, in my opinion that anything can
even be imagined, is that your ego. You can be
put that aside, because the ego is trying to define
who you are as a human being. But if you
can define yourself as a being of pure energy and
pure love, then the ego doesn't have to get in
the way. The ego doesn't need to say, oh wait
a minute, I'm not getting loved from this person. I'm
not getting loved from this. You look at the animals
(28:47):
and they say, I love you unconditionally. It's nice when
you freed me, but I can love you unconditionally. And
why can't humans realize that this is possible for humans
as well?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I guess they, like you were saying, The ego kicks in.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Absolutely. The ego defines who we are. We look in
the room and.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Say, okay, I am around fifty years old, I have
lost my hair, I am pretty good shape because I
played tennis. I get some sleep, and I'm healthy and
I eat healthy foods. But wait a minute, this is
just the outer. This is how I keep the physicality.
This is how I keep the physical part of me alive.
But there's so much more that I can't even begin
to share in any language. Because everyone sees this in themselves.
(29:25):
They say who am I?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Who am I?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Really? What am I doing here? And the ego says,
oh yeah, well, let me see.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You're an actor and your father and you do this,
and you do this and you want a car. No,
that's insane, But the ego says, well, that's all I
can give you. When you give a child a toy,
he associates that toy with who he is. Try taking
that toy away and see what happens. The ego says, Oh, no, no,
(29:51):
that's me.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
That that ball is now a part of who I am.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I look at that ball and I see the stars,
and I see the little stripes on it, and I
see all these pretty colors, I see these multi.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
It's that's who I am. That's me. If I can't
identify with this who am I. So we go throughout
our entire.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Life surrounding ourselves with these, these these things, these objects
who try to define who we are. As I look
around this room, I know that these objects mean nothing,
But yet they tell me, oh, yes, you do this,
and this is because of this. You have this award
from this, and you have this from here, and this
defines who you thought you were, and this colors you
and this looks good on you. And you do this
(30:29):
and when you do this, people say, oh, that looks
so good on you.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
But that's insanity.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
That's that's absolutely My definition has been said is looking
around the world and trying to use it to define
who you are. And I think everybody, everybody goes through this.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
How did you become a shaman?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I think I have little choice in the matter in
that I knew that spirituality went way beyond any kind
of religion to me, So I explored all religions as
much as I possibly could. And I guess the idea
of Daoism made the most sense to me because my
path is constant. My path is who I am, but
(31:13):
only as far as the path itself. If I'm looking
for a destination, then the path is meaningless. The path
is the destination. And once I realized that, I said,
you know, I believe that we can become more. And
that's when I decided that I was going to explore
this avenue of who I was.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Explanation Gary Gillet's are a special guest this hour. Www
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dot Org. How can you laugh at the idea of dying?
Is because you know that life is worse than death?
Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Hold on one second, I'm trying to restrain that until
you finish your sentence your question.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, absolutely, you have.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
To, because not because it is makes more sense? Is
it because it is who we are when we die?
We are who we truly are instead of again this facet,
this this illusion, this maya of being on this planet
and trying to make sense of it. So I have
(32:24):
to laugh because this is absurd. Our definition of being
alive is rather absurd, and that we honestly don't think
that anybody else is like us.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
We honestly look around.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
And say, you know, we have to use divisiveness because
that person is black, or that person is shorter, that
person is fat, or that person is handicapped. Oh my god,
that is just insane. If you can look at somebody
and say that's the reason I want. I am different
from you. You are just I don't know. You're in
a forest of trees, but you don't see that you.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Are a tree.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You're looking outside of the forest to say who am
I instead of saying I am everything. My favorite thing
in metaphysics is the essence or the idea of entanglement,
which is to say we are a part of everything
that we can see or hear, or imagine or taste
or anything.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
We are part of that.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
So to separate ourselves from that is absolute insanity, and
that is being a human. So, yeah, dying is pretty good.
But then we move on to another state and many
other states actually from what I understand, and then we
also become more of who we truly are instead of
who we think we are.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Having been dead four times and come back four times,
do you find yourself taking risks with your life or
you're more careful? Do you value life more now?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I think the Jois de vill is very powerful and
there's no reason to think that life is anything more
than precious as a gift in a learning tool, it's
a learning a way to learn, in a way to
empower yourself in the universe because you're finding questions, you're
finding answers to questions that are really part of the cosmos.
(34:15):
So I don't I don't go out of my way
to do things that I think will endanger my life.
I have done the highest bunge in the world to
one of them in New Zealand. I have swum with sharks.
I have done many things that I think are part
of the joy of life. I don't think that, you know,
I mean, I ride motorcycle occasionally. I don't think that
(34:37):
it's something where I it's like a death kind of
thing where I say, oh my god. If I take
more risks. I'm going to get there sooner.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And I don't.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I'm not I'm not a person who says I can't
cross the street anymore because I was once hit by
a truck as I cross the street. I'm not a
person to say, oh, this, this will never work because
I can't. You know, I don't know what the outcome
will be. So no, I think I take more risks
because I'm not afraid to be alive.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
So you don't consider yourself to be immortal.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well yeah, just not as a human.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
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Gary Jill, that's our guest this hour once again. Next
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The book dot com, metalliving dot RG. Gary, to you,
what is the meaning of life?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
To live?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
I guess just to be alive and explore the essence
of humanity. I mean, as far as life in this form.
I believe that if we look at everything is a
learning experience, everything is an unfolding, then the meaning is
self evident.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, what's next for Gary Gillette?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
I think the next thing for me is to find,
like I think I alluded to in the beginning, a
nice little place where I can grow my own vegetables
and maybe have people come by and I could teach
them metaphysics. If anybody's out there who wants me to
be a living metaphysicist and I'm also a massage therapist,
I will be more than happy to consider that arrangement
(39:47):
because I just need something simple. I don't need complication,
and my life has been full of complications. I'm not
looking for maybe a place either in Topanga or Maui,
or someplace where it's beautiful and has a positive energy,
that it can be who I really am instead of
who I you know, instead of just just just being
you know. I mean, I think it's just time for
(40:07):
a change, and I like shaking things up. I don't
mind just moving on and being something completely different.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Here, here's a question for you. How does somebody know
that where they're living has a lot of negative energy
and not positive energy.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
A lot of times, as spiritual entities, as psychic beings
which we are, we can feel that, and we when
we don't, we don't respond well to it, or we
feel sick, or we just are getting what they call
energy vampires around us that are trying to pull in
our energy for them because they don't have a powerful
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energy response for themselves. They don't don't know how to
get to that. So I would say a lot of
times it's just a feeling you get, and we all
were very aware, and we don't Sometimes will deny this
or we won't realize it, but we're very aware of
what we're supposed to be doing, and a lot of
times will even sabotage things to create a life that
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we think that we're actually supposed to be living.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
So it sounds like at times we can be our
own worst enemies.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
I believe that to be true, in that we don't
know our path most of the time, so we're looking
at a way to get there and sometimes the way
we get there is very you know, circumnavigation we're compared
to perhaps the way we thought we were going to
get there.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Hey, hey, Gary, we've run out of time for tonight,
but I want to thank you so much for coming
on the show and sharing your stories with us. And
i'd also like to give you congratulations for your new
book that's available for pre orders, The Spiritual Guidebook.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
I appreciate that. It's always fun to be on your show.
I look forward to doing this again sometime. If I
might spell the website rule, do go ahead. It's k
A R AM I C t h E b O
O k dot com and Metalaliving dot org, which is
m E t A l I v I n G
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dot O r G.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
So that'll give you an idea. Maybe you know to
to link.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
We've got to say, so long, buddy. We'll make sure
that people do get your links. I'll be back on
the other side of this commercial break at six and
a half minutes past with the news
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