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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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www dot simultv dot com and in the search engine
just type in xone. My guest this hour exonation is
Gary Wimmer, and Gary, for the past forty years, has
been a professional musician and psychic. He has been referred
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to as a medium, intuitive, healer, teacher, spiritualist, and clairvoyant. However,
he feels that spirituality and the psychic phenomenon are manifested
and overlapping, not confined or restricted by human definitions, and
he serves in all of these capacities to vary degrees.
He is also a frequent radio TV guest and gives
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live readings to callers and joining me now from who
knows Where is Gary Winery? Gary, Welcome back to the exell.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And how are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Pretty good? Coming to you from who knows where? Actually Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Austin, Texas. So how have you been since you and
I last chatted? My man?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
All, as the world gets crazier and the revolution keeps happening,
I just managed to stay happier because I kind of
see what's happening. I kind of understood, and that's a piece.
So I'm doing pretty good. No complaints at all, No
complaints de barbick, but no complaints.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Tell me, Guyary, why is the world in such an
upended state these days?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well? I tend to think it's not one. It's several reasons,
all kind of piling on. It's the next step in mankind.
It's the age of Aquarius. We have to learn more
about our spirituality and our psychic ability and compassion and
love and fairness, as well as practical things like global warming.
(02:16):
So there's a revolution going on in every society in
every country right now. People are angry and frustrated or extremism,
and it kind of goes along with my theory or
perhaps fact that you have to see the holes in
the boat before you can fix them. You have to
see the problems in society before we can fix them.
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So we're seeing all the problems and that's kind of
what happens. Got to come to the surface so we
can do better.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Is spirituality on an increase on a decline or is
it just staying in the middle. And because people really
don't know what to do, where to go, or what
to say.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, I don't think any two people have the same
mission of the same voyage. Yes, I do believe because
of my experience, I know that there's only oneinite, infinite
mind thing. Everybody, every thought, every molecule is a part
of it, is an expression of it. Is it seeing itself?
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But yeah, when we're humans in society, we tug of
war with all the things we have to do with
it is a challenge, It can be a challenge. People
are always learning things.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Darry, I understand that you have had a near death
experience in and out of body experience. Can you tell
us about that?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, in nineteen I started giving readings. I started getting
interested in psychic ability way back in college in the sixties,
late sixties. In nineteen seventy seven, I'll give you a
short summary. I was traveling on the road quit a band,
and over the next couple of days started becoming increasingly
psychic out of a clear blue and when I first noticed,
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I started seeing the newspaper through my room eyes. We
went to a bar and I could feel people walk
by and I could tell all about them, and then
I imagined myself going outside to get a breath of air.
Because this escalating psychability started taking off like a rocket,
and I wrote a book called The Second Eternity about it.
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I went through a week of solid, escalating psychic ability
with people all around me witnesses, and I couldn't turn
it off, and I did not know why it was happening,
and I have never been so scared. At the same time,
I was so enlightened. It's like a completely different dimension.
I got on and after eight days of that long
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story short, I was involved in a head on collision
with a car. I was a pedestrian, should have gotten killed. Left.
My body expanded outward like a balloon in all directions,
entered infinite mind, completely, forgot about myself or Earth or creation,
experienced the infinite water and this is the infinite mind.
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And then came back landed in my body in Guadaloupe
Street in Austin, Texas, and boy did he get bizarre
from that point forward, you know, But it was the
most incredible experience in my life. I wish I could
give people a ride there no fear of death. It's
death is it's so beautiful beyond this body. But our
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challenge is here in our bodies, in this reality, in
this society, in this culture. However, I think the one
thing people can do to try to dig through this
chaos is to be at peace, seek peace, meditate, look
at everything that's happening in your life as it can
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empower you, just as much as we look at how
much it excuse us or throw us a curveball, that's
a given. Educate yourself on the fact that everything has
another side to it. Yeah, plus and minus yin and yang.
You know, every change we go through and life throws
changes is not to screw us up. It's to help
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us learn something we didn't know. But we don't get
a rule buck explaining that. So things are in order,
as far as I can see, as crazy and as
painful as it is, everybody's having a different role in
this big melodrama, and it couldn't have happened one hundred
years ago, fifty years ago because we did not have
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mass communications. We know what's going on with everybody all
over the planet instantaneously, and so it's a perfect setup
for higher consciousness or evil to spread real quickly, you know.
So that's my kind of synopsis.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
How does can one see in today's society God and
higher consciousness?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, I think man's been trying to understand what God
is or might be for the ages. You know, we
had multi gods, and then we had one God, and
then we got fifteen different thirty different different major religions,
and they're all partially right. But I think the one
thing about religion in general, even though it serves a
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good purpose, it keeps people from being completely ruthless and crazy,
but they tend to be biased. God's on my side,
God's God's this way. God's infinite, and we cannot comprehend
infinity with a human mind that has limitations. It's quite
a challenge. That's why people who have had a glimpse
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at it had to leave their body because your brain
cannot comprehend it. It's beyond it. But did I wander off.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
What was the question again, Rob, I was asking you
how people in today's society can see God and understand
the higher consciousness.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Seek and you shall find. There's no two near death
experiences the same. There's no two people the same. Even
genetic twins have different lives, different souls. So it's all within,
answers to everything within. If you understand that within, you
can understand everything external to you. And yes, it is
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a challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You said earlier that we don't come with an instruction manual.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
How come?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Why not? Why does it have to be so hard?
Why aren't we given a heads up on what to expect?
And why and how?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well? I suppose it's just one of the many, many
ways that life could have manifested. Perhaps it's unique to
this planet to some degree. There's all kinds of things
we wonder, why wouldn't it be this way? The best
way I can see it is that we came here
with free will, and we did choose a certain you know,
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family and genes and situation. There are no accidents, there
are no coincidences. Everything is causing effect. So we're here
by cause and effect. The whole universe is here by
cause and effect, and we can create cause and effect.
If you want to understand, you have to seek. You've
got to learn to play the piano. You got to practice.
(09:01):
Do you want to grow, Yeah, you want to grow
in your mind, in your heart. You got to practice.
You want to be a good radio interviewer like you, Rob,
you got to practice and you've done it for a
long time. So you know, human things, human development, understanding, courage, strength, Uh,
those things take time. You know. There's not a button
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on your head you can push to become enlightened, but process.
And there's thousands of books read on it. And I
think one of the main things we should do in
a nutshell is not drive ourselves crazy over what we
cannot change. Look at it as learning. Find out what
you can change. Find out your two, three or four
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five power buttons, you know, push those. I was a
musician for fifty years, right, and boy I got the
crappy his voice in the business. Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know, well, you know there's some people who will
debate that, my friend, and I'm one of them. So
please stand by. We've got to take our commercial break.
Thanks very much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's always a great pleasure talking to explanation. My guest
Gary is Gary Wimmer, and if you'd like to find
out more about Gary, you can either google Gary Wimmer
or go to his website lithomancy dot com. That's l
I T H O M A n c hy dot
com and Gary and I will return on the other
side of this break as we continue here in the
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X zone from our broadcast center and studios in Niagara, Ontario, Canada.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Son go away and welcome back.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Gary Wimer is my guest www dot Littlemancy dot com.
Gary for our listeners who may be joining us for
the first time, on the number of affiliates we have
that have joined us recently here on SIMULTV. What is lithomancy.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Lithomancy is a art of divination giving readings. Basically I
means stone Mancy means by divination. It's a system of
reading a pattern in stones. Now. I started giving readings
in the early seventies and with cards and a little
bit of palmistry and a lot other methods. In nineteen
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eighty I met a lady who did a reading this
way and she taught me her method and it became
my main method and basically involves sixteen stones. Ten of
them are planet stones. They represent Sun, Moon, Burkery, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Sadder, Neptune, Urinus,
and Pluto. And there's six personal stones that are love, life, luckment, timing,
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in place, and whether I do it over the phone
in person. If I do it over the phone, I
charge the stones up in my hands, have the person
say drop and I drop them. I do it in person,
they drop them. And in any case, I read it
like a clock for twelve weeks, starting at the center
up to the twelve o'clock, the sort of the first
week and then around for approximate will be twelve weeks,
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give or take. And I really like the system because,
you know, twelve weeks is kind of a lot of
stuff can change in twelve weeks or twenty four hours,
you know, for that matter, and you know, a certain
psychic perspective. I tend to see what people are going
through and why and what they can learn through it.
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I don't try to nail it when or you know
a guy named you know, Joe on Thursday or whatever,
because things can change. You don't want to mislead somebody.
Maybe it's a guy named James on Tuesday, so that's
kind of the system, and I've been using it since
nineteen eighty. I wrote a book on it called Lithomancy,
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The Psychic Ord of Reading Stones. And basically what it
is rob is just reading symbolism. It's astrology is a nice,
already determined method. There's a lot of symbolism involved. But
I lived in Europe in the nineties and a couple
of times I did the stones with me, and I
started giving people readings by just having them arrange stuff
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on a table a car and a guitar string, an astra,
a trink and a coin. You know, So would you
say that because I believe go ahead. I was just
going to say so.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It sounds as if the stones are another oracle, like
a crystal ball or the tea leaves that gives you,
the reader, the ability to read the signs correct.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's just a method of seeing symbolism. And I see
how they point and move, I mean, don't move, but point,
and how they form triangles or patterns or circles or
spirals or you know, Fibonacci's all kinds of different patterns,
and how the close they are three for particular things.
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After that, it's getting a little bit cluttered.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know, Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It's a it's a need art and it's basically reading symbolism,
you know, it just happens to be nice convenience form.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We were talking before about God and higher consciousness. You've
shared with us your near death experience and out a
body experience. But I have talked to so many people
and they say that they have an inner complexity that
they deal with. How would you describe the inner complexity
that they talk about.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think it has everything to do with Bill's kids, life, love, sex,
a age, healthcare of you know, political, social issues, all
kinds of external as well as internal issues. And I
think the external issues are kind of a product of
you know, our society, our culture, our times whatever. The
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internal ones have been the same throughout history. We're either
at peace or we're working on it, or we're not,
or some variation thereof. Because again, everybody's life can be
so complex. But most spiritualists, and I agree with this too,
you self some time to meditate and cut off all
the complexity and get back in just breathing and feeling
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right here right now. Then you're kind of able to
pay attention to what you can do next instead of
everything you can't change up to this moment, everything that
drives you crazy. So yeah, everybodys lot I see now.
But it doesn't mean we have to go crazy. Just
means we've got.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
At la more so we have to stop and smell
the roses.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Absolutely. In today's hectic life, I drive down the street
and I just see people on their phones and rushing
and traffic and Jesus, folks, lighting up, slow down. We're
just consuming so much gas. And you know, every day
I turn on they've got fifteen different truck commercials on
big old VHS. Jesus, folks, this is I mean, it
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is crazy, it's crazy, But you know, everybody's limited what
they can do. I'm not president, not a congressman. I
can vote, I can get my opinion. But more than anything, again,
it boils down to if you're in peace, in your
own head, in your own heart, in your own mind,
everything works. And I'd like to add one thing. Sure,
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you know any limitations in life, how fast you can drive,
how long you live, you know how much spaghetti you
can eat, everything, But spiritually, psychically and emotionally and with
love and compassion and forgiveness and creativity and morals and virtues.
There's no limit, zero limit of how much we can
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grow a b Those are the things that make you happy.
And see, nobody can take that away from it. They
can take your car, your pizza. They cannot take your soul,
your heart, of your mind. They can take your life,
they can't take your soul, your herd, your mind.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
However, it's sad to say that there are many people
out there who tries so desperately to rob people of
their soul, their mind, their heart, their very essence of life.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, I think that's true. Hell, we saw Hitler. Yeah
I didn't, thank God, But what an example. The lady
who taught me a lot of psychic ability, I asked
her about a situation like that, and she said the
Jews in mass not consciously but subconsciously, before they became
as victims, they came to fulfill a certain thing, to
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show the world what a dangerous person can do, which
goes along with my theory grew up anything. I'm I'm
not sure it's a theory. I think it's a fact.
But what was your question again, rob.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, I was just saying that, you know, in today's society,
there are people who deliberately go to try and rob
you of your of your essence, your heart, your your spirituality.
There's those people in society who get a thrill out
of just being rotten people, and they will do anything
to bring another person down because they haven't realized yet
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that they have the power within them to change their
life to a positive aspect instead of the negativity that
they live in.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's absolutely true, and unfortunately, that's one of the things
that free will allows is people want to be a jerk.
They can be a jerk. I like we were talking
a while ago, you don't come with a rule book,
you don't come with instructions. We have to learn things.
But we all get slapped around, we all go through
curveballs and changes and surprises. But those of us who
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those who want to know take a deep breath and
try to look at the situation. And those who get
aimed we got and beat up somebody else's same situation.
It's how they react. Unfortunately, we can't take the evil
out of people. We can only hopefully educate them. And
you know, I think a lot of people. I see
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people come to this planet and you know, twenty year
old guy kills four people and ends up life in
prison or executed. I think it's so I have to
look at it like it's not. It is divine order
working itself out in some form in some way. There
are no accidentss.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's because we don't understand or we cannot see the
rest of the ripple effect.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How in the war.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, you know, like you take that ripple, you take
a stone, toss it into a into a par and
the ripples go out. And if you take another pebble
and toss it into the same pond, the lines of
the ripples interact. And I really believe that that has
cause and effect.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh absolutely. And there's so many ripples going on. There's
so many just on a physical ever, every atom, every
molecule is right in an electromagnetics, it's everything is all over.
So ripples frequency patterns bought. It's a good thing. We
don't have a radio inside of our heads. Maybe we do,
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we actually do, to be honest with you, but thank god.
It doesn't tune into amr FM. It tunes into higher
consciousness if we want to tune it in that way. Yeah,
it's a choice. It's a choice followed by practice.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, plus, I think that since the increased amount of
data that people are being subjected to on a daily basis,
it doesn't certainly help the psyche.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, it is bombard it, it really is bomb And
you know, for example, I couldn't watch the President speak.
It's just bombarding. You know, it's just noise. Uh, there's
a lot of noise. And there is a lot of
noise because a lot of people go in a lot
of places and pickups and distractions and everything else. But
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we have a responsibility to ourselves to turn off the
noise and find peace. Nobody else or nothing else can
do it for us other than ourselves. It's much less
tied to your situation or the or the cards you
have than how you play the cards or how you
look at your situation. You can have all the power
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and money in the world and be miserable, or you
could be innocent of a crime like Nelson Mandela and
go to jail for defending your people. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Hey, Gary, we've got to take our news break out.
The botom of the Hour, signed by my friend Gary Wimmer,
is our special guest this hour. His website is www
dot Littlemenci dot com and that's l I T H
O M A n C Y dot com. This is
the X on I M Rob McConnell coming to you
from the broadcast center in studios of Realmer McConnell Media
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Company in Niagara, Ontario, Canada. If you'd like to send
me an email, x own at xzone radio TV dot com,
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and I will be back after this news breaks. Whatever
you do, don't go away. Welcome back everyone. Gary Wimer
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is our special guest w d WW dot LITHLEMANC dot com.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
How can people start to develop their own awareness and
their own psychic abilities?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, you know, I think the easiest thing in ROB
is in your everyday activity, no matter who you are,
what you're doing. If you allow yourself to at least
consider the possibility that life is always talking to you, right,
then you open yourself up to the possibility of looking
at things differently and just you have to look at
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things differently if you want to grow and involve. If
you don't know how to swim, you have to look
differently and go go pactice. If you want to evolve,
if you want to find ways to connect, imagine universe
is always talking to you. Number number two. Meditate, allow
yourself to get five to ten minutes of just peace,
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you and your mind, your higher mind, and so forth. Personally,
I try techniques, and I'll mentioned when I learned several
years ago, Rob. About ten years ago, I misplaced my
keys for about the twentieth time. I did what everybody does.
You know that one room, yeah, one room to the next,
shuffling drawers, driving myself crazy, And after about five or
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ten minutes, I'll screw this. This is absurd. I'm going
to change this around. If I don't try, I won't
know if her keys you find me. And I thought
my synapses somewhere in my brain know where I left them.
I can't consciously, So divine mind, high mind, consciousness, keys,
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my synapses, you all get together. I'm gonna go about
my life and just pull me to the keys. Ten
minutes I found them, goodness. And when I went to
reach the keys, almost as clearly as I'm talking to you, Rob,
they said, we can't walk, but your system works. Try it.
And all the time, that's ten years ago, I don't
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seventy two I misplaced uff. All the time I got
stacks and stacks and stacks of stuff, and I never
go look for anything. I think about it, and I'm
drawn to it. Within a moment or two, several years
ago in the garage, I used that technique to help
me find my keys, which I had accidentally dropped in
the recycle bin. I meditated, and I asked the universe
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to soon I opened my eyes, show me a sign
to show me right where my keys are right now.
And I opened my eyes and there's a screwdriver I
left on the floor that's pointing right over the recycle bin.
I didn't know I had them in my hand when
I turned the recycling bin over it. They're at the
bottom of the damn recycling bin.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So what you were doing, what you were doing was
you were reading the signs.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Absolutely and creating a system causing the fact. It doesn't
just happen. You can make the universe happen to your
cause and effect. We know it about evil stuff, Yes,
let's think about it. How much power we have is
in the good stuff? So yeah, little techniques like that.
I've gotten so many techniques, whether it's watching TV. I
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watched the football games, I watched the Super Bowl yesterday,
New Kansas City was won by thirty one.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, that was a good game.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It was a good game. But I watched the games
a little bit, not that I'm into football. I try
to see where the ball is going to go, who's
going to run which way? And I get about seventy
five eighty percent, right, I don't gambler. Nobody knows. It's
at me. It's my own little practice on Sunday, and
I don't want to hear the announcer. I use everything
as a practice now. I'm a little bit obsessed with
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it because of my near death experience, and I've been
involved in psychic phenomenon my whole lot. But even if
you're a back or run a cash register or a salesman,
doesn't mean you can't find your own way to start
reading the signs and empower yourself. Look at life for
the new things that can show you and offer you.
If you want to be fresh, you know, if you don't,
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you can stay limited. It's a choice.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I would imagine Gary that it all all goes back
to how we used to in the olden days. You
know how we used to not take anything for granted,
Like you got as much in of the day as
you could.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I remember as a kid playing outside, you know, from
early morning, coming in for lunch, going back out, coming
back in for supper, going back out, you know, doing homework,
going outside, communicating with my parents, having meals with the parents,
not having these little electronic gizmos that everybody plays with
instead of communicating verbally, you know. I remember taking walks.
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We lived in a beautiful country area south of Montreal,
and we had a stream in front of our house,
and I remember walking and listening to the stream, hearing
the frogs croaking, actually hearing me the way talking to
God exactly exactly, feeling as part of one, one with all,
one with universe. And then as I progressively got over,
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especially in the broadcast industry, it stops until I realized, hey,
I myself am missing this. So now I go out
for walks in the morning, and once again I hear nature.
Once again, I feel part in one with the universe.
And it's a great feeling. And if anybody cannot feel that,
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just let it happen. It'll happen. You just have to
open yourself up and say I'm here, I'm listening, I'm part.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well, Rob, you'd listened to your own signs, and you
made a change and you benefited. Yes, definitely, pretty much
that simple. I really want to look at it, you know,
look at the signs. Are you feeling good or feeling bad?
And you know what you did is basically going well,
I can't change, so I'm going to change the present,
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you know, and that will start a new trajectory to
a new future and not the one that was on default.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And and I really think that the youth of today
and so many people have been lost in the in
the sociological you know puzzle that face each and every day,
that that they're missing so much. Gary, how do we
how do we how do we teach them? How do
we get the message across to them? Like you and
I are doing our very best tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, I kind of look at the younger generation as uh,
get off your damn phone, talk to people, get off
your phone, get off the damn internet, don't talk to people,
text everything, don't follow faith, don't give a damn about
what your friend's making for dinner. Do some of substance,
think of substance, whether but you know, millennials or your
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ninety you have to do that in life or you
get stale. And if you do your part to make
the world better by enlightening yourself and doing your best
thing rather than app you're doing to benefit yourself into
the whole world, everybody benefits. So I think I grew
up with six brothers. Man, I was so used to
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three or four, five people at dinner or seven and arguments.
You know. When it came politics and Nixon, well we
were a divided house, a divided time in nineteen seventies,
it was. But we learned from talking and inn and
communicating and compromising and lists. Yeah, a lot of that
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has kind of disappeared in the digital age. But still,
if you want to have sex, you got to deal
with the human being. If you want to be in
a football team or a team, you got to actually
talk and be there. You can't do that over text,
you know, over TV. So there's even though a lot
of stuff is going to high tech and I guess
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not personal. The humans is a personal animal. On back
to it one another, the question is are you going
to pursue it or go back to the media, or
go back to the two, go back to the phone.
It's to be evolved with you other involved with other
human beings.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I think the biggest mistake the educational field has made
over the years, and I've been blasted by listeners who
are teachers and principles and people who are on the
board of education of many communities and throughout the states
in Canada, is that children are not being taught in school.
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I see school these days as a babysitting service to
the parents because if children were being taught, you don't
need a cell phone to be taught. Teach them how
to use their brain, absolutely, how to be members of society,
how to communicate, because one of these days, Gary, and
I'm not a psychic, my friend, and you know that
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one of these days there's going to be another EMF
or solar flare's gonna knock out the electronic grid. What
are these kids going to do?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It's not if it's when the inevitable is going to happen. Absolutely,
I I went to Catholic school from the third to
the seventh grade. I was a learned Latin because I
was an Ultimore damn gueen Lativikat you've been to tempt
says pox Dominus Bridge to do. I knew the whole mass.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Of Latin I nearly yelled bingo for something.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
There you go. I learned Spanish by the eighth grade.
By the seventh grade, a new Spanish. Uh So there
was a good education. It was hard, but it was good,
and even the public schools were the more demanding. I
think it is more of a babysitter job, and unfortunately
it's because so much distraction in society. However, you still
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have people who are going to exhale work hard. Yeah,
you're going to have a lot of people get lost
in the latest stupid thing. And part of it is
not communicating with humans and not growing and not evolving.
But h hill, I'm sure fifty years ago there was
problems that made people less successful than they could have
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been as well. Maybe this be su fighting horses and
not enough time going to school.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yep, so most probably. But listen, my friend, you and
I have to take our final break for this hour,
and Gary, when we come back, we'll continue this very
interesting conversation. Thanks very much for joining us and x
O nation. Gary will be back with me, and if
you'd like to find out more information about my good
friend Gary Wimmer, visit his website www dot Lithomenci dot com.
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Speaker 2 (34:56):
Welcome back every one.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Gary Wimer is our special guest and Gary's site is
lithomancy dot com and he's also the author of Lithomancy,
The Psychic Art of Reading Stones. Now, Gary and I
were talking about reading stones earlier this this hour, and
during the commercial break, I asked Gary if he could
give us a demonstration of how a stone reading goes
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using me. Now, this is unrehearsed, this is unedited. Whatever
Gary says will.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Not be altered.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So Gary, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Okay, Rob, what I've got I've got these sixteen stones
in my hand right, ten of them planet stones, yeah,
six of personal stones, and all you have to do,
and it feels right one time will clearly just say
draw okay, they drop, app you drop okay. Well, right
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here I read in the center and I'll give you
kind of an idea. You've got the Louckstone at the
very very top. You're at twelve o'clock, so it's showing
a lucky cycle for you in it in an accident.
It's because you've been doing a lot of planning, a
lot of fresh strategy, a lot of expansion. And over
the next couple of weeks you've got Neptune right next
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to Uranus that has a lot to do with not
only changes, but new plans and new dreams, and it
almost underscores your real desire to know more yourself. That
seems to be something growing in you, probably from talking
to so many people so long. That is true now
both the fourth and fifth week here you're kind of
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just pinnacle with Jupiter and Venus, and that shows a
lot of balance coming in your life, which is really
going to help long term on this healing, love things,
family things over the long term. So as you start
this lucky cycle and make a commitment to your business,
you're also making a commitment subconsciously and spiritually to this
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new balance that you have that you can provide other
people both in the future and heal from the past
and springs strong techniques and communication. By the sixth of
the ninth week, here Mercury is right next to the environment,
so it's showing not only an inuation of your show
and so forth, but like a new sort of zest.
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And again, I think your curiosity is coming through, probably
more than it has, which is good because there's a
strong triangle here starting with twelve o'clock, the lux stone
you're bringing in this new luck venus by about this
fourth or fifth week, and this love stone outside the
circle near both Pluto, which is healing and the Sunstone,
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which is like new goals, because you are healing over
a lot of past stuff and bringing that to power.
So it don't be surprised if the ninth of the
twelfth week, emotionally and on a practical level business level,
you've really brought this triangle into play, brought this spirituality.
Triangles represent the Trinity or pyramids, third eye. That makes
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sense to you, Rob, it sure does, and as usual
you're dead on. Well that's through three months in ninety seconds.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, thank you so much for that, my friend. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
What has been your most rewarding part of the work
that you do with people helping them to understand life,
helping them to get back on to a path, you know,
doing the readings? There must be there must be those
special times and those people that have just touched you away.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Oh very You know, as a musician, I went through
very severe depression because I had a crappy voice and
trying to figure out to make a live and playing music.
Uh so I've been through a lot of extremes, a
lot of depression.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Wait a second, Wait a second, Wait a second, Pal,
I've got to tell you something. What's that You sound
a heck of a lot better than Chris Christofferson does.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Well, I might agree to that, and he's a pretty
flat signing.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Oh god, anyway, I'm giving you a compliment.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, thank you, Rob. I use myself as an example of,
like I said, not having the great gift of something
very important in music, but having the attitude and that's
what my near death experience taught me. And what was
the question again.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I said, I was asking about the people that you
touched doing what you do. If there's one or two
examples or stories that you could share with us.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
There's actually a lot of them, because I dedicate myself
at my age in the last ten years to making
the world better the best way I can. I find
power people. If I can help people realize that there's
light and there's creativity, and there's infinite power that we
are tied to through a spiritual umbilical cord, and if
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we yank on it and practice and ask, we can grow.
And one thing I find very important for your listeners
and for everybody is our guides. Our higher mind knows
the rule not to interfere with human free will. Yeah,
so if you really want to benefit, you have to ask,
you have to practice, you have to and if you
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do that, you learn the tools and techniques to accomplish
everything in life. I'm the happiest person on the planet,
rob because every day I get to decide that and
nobody gets to outvote me. Period.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You know, we were talking about how other people can
empower other people, and I'd like to give an example.
When I was growing up, Like I said, we lived
on the south shore of Montreal, and my dad, God
bless him, he's still with us. He's in his nineties now.
He a hard working man, a wonderful dad, a man
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that I don't believe anyone on this planet can equal.
He used to be a presser, press clothes. He was
on his feet all day long. He'd go in at
seven o'clock in the morning and he'd come home at
seven o'clock at night, have supper, and God bless him,
he was tired at the end of the day. During
the summertime, we'd sit out on the front porch overlooking
that river, and there was a train bridge that we
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could see because the train tracks were not very far
from our home. And my dad and all his infinite wisdom,
looked at me and he said, you know, son, no
matter what happens in life, no matter how dark it gets,
there's always a light at the end of the tunnel.
And as a child, this just kind of inspired me.
And just as I was getting so embraced in the moment,
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he said, but in your case, it might be an
oncoming train, and that's the God's truth. The message that
I got from my dad was never be too sure
of what is coming down the track, whether it's the
light at the end of the tunnel, at the end
of the tunnel, or if it's a train, be prepared
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for whatever life sends you.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Rob. It's interesting because I wrote a song that goes,
keep your eyes wide open no matter what you do, because, uh,
the scrds you play, because the lightst end tunnel could
be the train coming back on you. Wow. And you
wrote a song about that.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And you said there were no coincidences there, you go,
there are no coins.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
They're just And that's what I think people should realize
in life. That stuff happens that we have no control over.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's a script we're following.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Pardon me, it's like a script we're following to some degree.
But we do get choices of whether we go right
or lift yep.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Now, you know as well as I do that any
good actor has that leniency given to him by the director.
And I think this is what God has done, or
the ultimate power, or is the great Spirit in the sky,
whatever you want to call this universal force. We're given latitude,
a lot, yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And and creativity and free will big time, big time.
I think some people are luckier than others. Some people
have better voices, some people are brought up with better
standards and so forth. But the conditions were in every
one of us is exactly where the conditions we need
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to be and to learn what we came to learn.
The question is do we open our minds up and
learn it or do we keep making the same mistakes.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Would you say it's more important to open the heart
than it is to open the mind.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, I think so, because the mind is lived, and
right before my near death experience is one of the
things that really freaked me out is my logical mind.
It it completes and could not figure out why this
was going on. I had to depend on heart, I
had to depend on soul. The mind is great for
negotiating and analyzing the time to cut it off and
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let the spirit and the heart and the soul guide
the way because the mind law always says, the light
on is the light off? Is the light on? Just
light off? You know the Tuggle War. So what's next
for you?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Gary? What are you going to be doing in the
near future. You're a psychic, you should know this.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I'm actually relaxing a lot. I'm going to be speaking
of a couple. I NAD International Association with your Death Studies.
I do some courses on psychic readings. Of course, I
do a lot of readings. Sometimes I do for groups
and functions. And meanwhile, I've had quite some serious back problems.
I can't walk too well. So I decided to screw that.
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I'm building a fence, building a huge seater fence in
my backyard, new Gate and everything. Uh, just to motivate
myself to not consider my handicap something that's gonna screw
with me. The fence is too expensive for me to hire.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Oh jeez, tell me about it. Well, if you when
you're finished yours, Gary, you can come up and help
me do mine.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
The ones enough, I'll thank you anything for you at
fince Billin's not my main thing.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Hey, Gary, As always, when you're with me, my man,
time goes by so fast. I want to thank you
ever so much for joining us. Gary. I appreciate you.
I appreciate the message that you share with those that
are fortunate enough to be touched by you, and thank
you for the reading.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
You too, and Rob keep doing what you're doing. You
make people for you loud to say God bless you brother.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Thank you very much, Gary, and x O Nation. If
you'd like to get a stone reading from Gary, just
go to his website lithomancy dot com and we're going
to be putting that on. Gary's the little information that
we put on for all of you who want to
go to our podcasts or even our website where we
have all the information about our guests. Once again, his
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www dot simultv dot com and in the search engine
just type in xone. My guest this hour exonation is
Gary Wimmer, and Gary, for the past forty years, has
been a professional musician and psychic. He has been referred
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to as a medium, intuitive, healer, teacher, spiritualist, and clairvoyant. However,
he feels that spirituality and the psychic phenomenon are manifested
and overlapping, not confined or restricted by human definitions, and
he serves in all of these capacities to vary degrees.
He is also a frequent radio TV guest and gives
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live readings to callers and joining me now from who
knows Where is Gary Winery? Gary, Welcome back to the exell.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And how are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Pretty good? Coming to you from who knows where? Actually Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Austin, Texas. So how have you been since you and
I last chatted? My man?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
All, as the world gets crazier and the revolution keeps happening,
I just managed to stay happier because I kind of
see what's happening. I kind of understood, and that's a piece.
So I'm doing pretty good. No complaints at all, No
complaints de barbick, but no complaints.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Tell me, Guyary, why is the world in such an
upended state these days?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well? I tend to think it's not one. It's several reasons,
all kind of piling on. It's the next step in mankind.
It's the age of Aquarius. We have to learn more
about our spirituality and our psychic ability and compassion and
love and fairness, as well as practical things like global warming.
(02:16):
So there's a revolution going on in every society in
every country right now. People are angry and frustrated or extremism,
and it kind of goes along with my theory or
perhaps fact that you have to see the holes in
the boat before you can fix them. You have to
see the problems in society before we can fix them.
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So we're seeing all the problems and that's kind of
what happens. Got to come to the surface so we
can do better.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Is spirituality on an increase on a decline or is
it just staying in the middle. And because people really
don't know what to do, where to go, or what
to say.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, I don't think any two people have the same
mission of the same voyage. Yes, I do believe because
of my experience, I know that there's only oneinite, infinite
mind thing. Everybody, every thought, every molecule is a part
of it, is an expression of it. Is it seeing itself?
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But yeah, when we're humans in society, we tug of
war with all the things we have to do with
it is a challenge, It can be a challenge. People
are always learning things.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Darry, I understand that you have had a near death
experience in and out of body experience. Can you tell
us about that?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, in nineteen I started giving readings. I started getting
interested in psychic ability way back in college in the sixties,
late sixties. In nineteen seventy seven, I'll give you a
short summary. I was traveling on the road quit a band,
and over the next couple of days started becoming increasingly
psychic out of a clear blue and when I first noticed,
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I started seeing the newspaper through my room eyes. We
went to a bar and I could feel people walk
by and I could tell all about them, and then
I imagined myself going outside to get a breath of air.
Because this escalating psychability started taking off like a rocket,
and I wrote a book called The Second Eternity about it.
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I went through a week of solid, escalating psychic ability
with people all around me witnesses, and I couldn't turn
it off, and I did not know why it was happening,
and I have never been so scared. At the same time,
I was so enlightened. It's like a completely different dimension.
I got on and after eight days of that long
(04:40):
story short, I was involved in a head on collision
with a car. I was a pedestrian, should have gotten killed. Left.
My body expanded outward like a balloon in all directions,
entered infinite mind, completely, forgot about myself or Earth or creation,
experienced the infinite water and this is the infinite mind.
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And then came back landed in my body in Guadaloupe
Street in Austin, Texas, and boy did he get bizarre
from that point forward, you know, But it was the
most incredible experience in my life. I wish I could
give people a ride there no fear of death. It's
death is it's so beautiful beyond this body. But our
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challenge is here in our bodies, in this reality, in
this society, in this culture. However, I think the one
thing people can do to try to dig through this
chaos is to be at peace, seek peace, meditate, look
at everything that's happening in your life as it can
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empower you, just as much as we look at how
much it excuse us or throw us a curveball, that's
a given. Educate yourself on the fact that everything has
another side to it. Yeah, plus and minus yin and yang.
You know, every change we go through and life throws
changes is not to screw us up. It's to help
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us learn something we didn't know. But we don't get
a rule buck explaining that. So things are in order,
as far as I can see, as crazy and as
painful as it is, everybody's having a different role in
this big melodrama, and it couldn't have happened one hundred
years ago, fifty years ago because we did not have
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mass communications. We know what's going on with everybody all
over the planet instantaneously, and so it's a perfect setup
for higher consciousness or evil to spread real quickly, you know.
So that's my kind of synopsis.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
How does can one see in today's society God and
higher consciousness?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, I think man's been trying to understand what God
is or might be for the ages. You know, we
had multi gods, and then we had one God, and
then we got fifteen different thirty different different major religions,
and they're all partially right. But I think the one
thing about religion in general, even though it serves a
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good purpose, it keeps people from being completely ruthless and crazy,
but they tend to be biased. God's on my side,
God's God's this way. God's infinite, and we cannot comprehend
infinity with a human mind that has limitations. It's quite
a challenge. That's why people who have had a glimpse
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at it had to leave their body because your brain
cannot comprehend it. It's beyond it. But did I wander off.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
What was the question again, Rob, I was asking you
how people in today's society can see God and understand
the higher consciousness.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Seek and you shall find. There's no two near death
experiences the same. There's no two people the same. Even
genetic twins have different lives, different souls. So it's all within,
answers to everything within. If you understand that within, you
can understand everything external to you. And yes, it is
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a challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You said earlier that we don't come with an instruction manual.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
How come?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Why not? Why does it have to be so hard?
Why aren't we given a heads up on what to expect?
And why and how?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well? I suppose it's just one of the many, many
ways that life could have manifested. Perhaps it's unique to
this planet to some degree. There's all kinds of things
we wonder, why wouldn't it be this way? The best
way I can see it is that we came here
with free will, and we did choose a certain you know,
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family and genes and situation. There are no accidents, there
are no coincidences. Everything is causing effect. So we're here
by cause and effect. The whole universe is here by
cause and effect, and we can create cause and effect.
If you want to understand, you have to seek. You've
got to learn to play the piano. You got to practice.
(09:01):
Do you want to grow, Yeah, you want to grow
in your mind, in your heart. You got to practice.
You want to be a good radio interviewer like you, Rob,
you got to practice and you've done it for a
long time. So you know, human things, human development, understanding, courage, strength, Uh,
those things take time. You know. There's not a button
(09:22):
on your head you can push to become enlightened, but process.
And there's thousands of books read on it. And I
think one of the main things we should do in
a nutshell is not drive ourselves crazy over what we
cannot change. Look at it as learning. Find out what
you can change. Find out your two, three or four
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five power buttons, you know, push those. I was a
musician for fifty years, right, and boy I got the
crappy his voice in the business. Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know, well, you know there's some people who will
debate that, my friend, and I'm one of them. So
please stand by. We've got to take our commercial break.
Thanks very much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's always a great pleasure talking to explanation. My guest
Gary is Gary Wimmer, and if you'd like to find
out more about Gary, you can either google Gary Wimmer
or go to his website lithomancy dot com. That's l
I T H O M A n c hy dot
com and Gary and I will return on the other
side of this break as we continue here in the
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X zone from our broadcast center and studios in Niagara, Ontario, Canada.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Son go away and welcome back.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Gary Wimer is my guest www dot Littlemancy dot com.
Gary for our listeners who may be joining us for
the first time, on the number of affiliates we have
that have joined us recently here on SIMULTV. What is lithomancy.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Lithomancy is a art of divination giving readings. Basically I
means stone Mancy means by divination. It's a system of
reading a pattern in stones. Now. I started giving readings
in the early seventies and with cards and a little
bit of palmistry and a lot other methods. In nineteen
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eighty I met a lady who did a reading this
way and she taught me her method and it became
my main method and basically involves sixteen stones. Ten of
them are planet stones. They represent Sun, Moon, Burkery, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Sadder, Neptune, Urinus,
and Pluto. And there's six personal stones that are love, life, luckment, timing,
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in place, and whether I do it over the phone
in person. If I do it over the phone, I
charge the stones up in my hands, have the person
say drop and I drop them. I do it in person,
they drop them. And in any case, I read it
like a clock for twelve weeks, starting at the center
up to the twelve o'clock, the sort of the first
week and then around for approximate will be twelve weeks,
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give or take. And I really like the system because,
you know, twelve weeks is kind of a lot of
stuff can change in twelve weeks or twenty four hours,
you know, for that matter, and you know, a certain
psychic perspective. I tend to see what people are going
through and why and what they can learn through it.
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I don't try to nail it when or you know
a guy named you know, Joe on Thursday or whatever,
because things can change. You don't want to mislead somebody.
Maybe it's a guy named James on Tuesday, so that's
kind of the system, and I've been using it since
nineteen eighty. I wrote a book on it called Lithomancy,
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The Psychic Ord of Reading Stones. And basically what it
is rob is just reading symbolism. It's astrology is a nice,
already determined method. There's a lot of symbolism involved. But
I lived in Europe in the nineties and a couple
of times I did the stones with me, and I
started giving people readings by just having them arrange stuff
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on a table a car and a guitar string, an astra,
a trink and a coin. You know, So would you
say that because I believe go ahead. I was just
going to say so.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It sounds as if the stones are another oracle, like
a crystal ball or the tea leaves that gives you,
the reader, the ability to read the signs correct.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's just a method of seeing symbolism. And I see
how they point and move, I mean, don't move, but point,
and how they form triangles or patterns or circles or
spirals or you know, Fibonacci's all kinds of different patterns,
and how the close they are three for particular things.
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After that, it's getting a little bit cluttered.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know, Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It's a it's a need art and it's basically reading symbolism,
you know, it just happens to be nice convenience form.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We were talking before about God and higher consciousness. You've
shared with us your near death experience and out a
body experience. But I have talked to so many people
and they say that they have an inner complexity that
they deal with. How would you describe the inner complexity
that they talk about.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think it has everything to do with Bill's kids, life, love, sex,
a age, healthcare of you know, political, social issues, all
kinds of external as well as internal issues. And I
think the external issues are kind of a product of
you know, our society, our culture, our times whatever. The
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internal ones have been the same throughout history. We're either
at peace or we're working on it, or we're not,
or some variation thereof. Because again, everybody's life can be
so complex. But most spiritualists, and I agree with this too,
you self some time to meditate and cut off all
the complexity and get back in just breathing and feeling
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right here right now. Then you're kind of able to
pay attention to what you can do next instead of
everything you can't change up to this moment, everything that
drives you crazy. So yeah, everybodys lot I see now.
But it doesn't mean we have to go crazy. Just
means we've got.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
At la more so we have to stop and smell
the roses.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Absolutely. In today's hectic life, I drive down the street
and I just see people on their phones and rushing
and traffic and Jesus, folks, lighting up, slow down. We're
just consuming so much gas. And you know, every day
I turn on they've got fifteen different truck commercials on
big old VHS. Jesus, folks, this is I mean, it
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is crazy, it's crazy, But you know, everybody's limited what
they can do. I'm not president, not a congressman. I
can vote, I can get my opinion. But more than anything, again,
it boils down to if you're in peace, in your
own head, in your own heart, in your own mind,
everything works. And I'd like to add one thing. Sure,
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you know any limitations in life, how fast you can drive,
how long you live, you know how much spaghetti you
can eat, everything, But spiritually, psychically and emotionally and with
love and compassion and forgiveness and creativity and morals and virtues.
There's no limit, zero limit of how much we can
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grow a b Those are the things that make you happy.
And see, nobody can take that away from it. They
can take your car, your pizza. They cannot take your soul,
your heart, of your mind. They can take your life,
they can't take your soul, your herd, your mind.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
However, it's sad to say that there are many people
out there who tries so desperately to rob people of
their soul, their mind, their heart, their very essence of life.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, I think that's true. Hell, we saw Hitler. Yeah
I didn't, thank God, But what an example. The lady
who taught me a lot of psychic ability, I asked
her about a situation like that, and she said the
Jews in mass not consciously but subconsciously, before they became
as victims, they came to fulfill a certain thing, to
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show the world what a dangerous person can do, which
goes along with my theory grew up anything. I'm I'm
not sure it's a theory. I think it's a fact.
But what was your question again, rob.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, I was just saying that, you know, in today's society,
there are people who deliberately go to try and rob
you of your of your essence, your heart, your your spirituality.
There's those people in society who get a thrill out
of just being rotten people, and they will do anything
to bring another person down because they haven't realized yet
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that they have the power within them to change their
life to a positive aspect instead of the negativity that
they live in.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's absolutely true, and unfortunately, that's one of the things
that free will allows is people want to be a jerk.
They can be a jerk. I like we were talking
a while ago, you don't come with a rule book,
you don't come with instructions. We have to learn things.
But we all get slapped around, we all go through
curveballs and changes and surprises. But those of us who
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those who want to know take a deep breath and
try to look at the situation. And those who get
aimed we got and beat up somebody else's same situation.
It's how they react. Unfortunately, we can't take the evil
out of people. We can only hopefully educate them. And
you know, I think a lot of people. I see
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people come to this planet and you know, twenty year
old guy kills four people and ends up life in
prison or executed. I think it's so I have to
look at it like it's not. It is divine order
working itself out in some form in some way. There
are no accidentss.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's because we don't understand or we cannot see the
rest of the ripple effect.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How in the war.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, you know, like you take that ripple, you take
a stone, toss it into a into a par and
the ripples go out. And if you take another pebble
and toss it into the same pond, the lines of
the ripples interact. And I really believe that that has
cause and effect.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh absolutely. And there's so many ripples going on. There's
so many just on a physical ever, every atom, every
molecule is right in an electromagnetics, it's everything is all over.
So ripples frequency patterns bought. It's a good thing. We
don't have a radio inside of our heads. Maybe we do,
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we actually do, to be honest with you, but thank god.
It doesn't tune into amr FM. It tunes into higher
consciousness if we want to tune it in that way. Yeah,
it's a choice. It's a choice followed by practice.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, plus, I think that since the increased amount of
data that people are being subjected to on a daily basis,
it doesn't certainly help the psyche.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, it is bombard it, it really is bomb And
you know, for example, I couldn't watch the President speak.
It's just bombarding. You know, it's just noise. Uh, there's
a lot of noise. And there is a lot of
noise because a lot of people go in a lot
of places and pickups and distractions and everything else. But
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we have a responsibility to ourselves to turn off the
noise and find peace. Nobody else or nothing else can
do it for us other than ourselves. It's much less
tied to your situation or the or the cards you
have than how you play the cards or how you
look at your situation. You can have all the power
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and money in the world and be miserable, or you
could be innocent of a crime like Nelson Mandela and
go to jail for defending your people. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Hey, Gary, we've got to take our news break out.
The botom of the Hour, signed by my friend Gary Wimmer,
is our special guest this hour. His website is www
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from the broadcast center in studios of Realmer McConnell Media
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and I will be back after this news breaks. Whatever
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Speaker 3 (23:03):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
How can people start to develop their own awareness and
their own psychic abilities?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, you know, I think the easiest thing in ROB
is in your everyday activity, no matter who you are,
what you're doing. If you allow yourself to at least
consider the possibility that life is always talking to you, right,
then you open yourself up to the possibility of looking
at things differently and just you have to look at
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things differently if you want to grow and involve. If
you don't know how to swim, you have to look
differently and go go pactice. If you want to evolve,
if you want to find ways to connect, imagine universe
is always talking to you. Number number two. Meditate, allow
yourself to get five to ten minutes of just peace,
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you and your mind, your higher mind, and so forth. Personally,
I try techniques, and I'll mentioned when I learned several
years ago, Rob. About ten years ago, I misplaced my
keys for about the twentieth time. I did what everybody does.
You know that one room, yeah, one room to the next,
shuffling drawers, driving myself crazy, And after about five or
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ten minutes, I'll screw this. This is absurd. I'm going
to change this around. If I don't try, I won't
know if her keys you find me. And I thought
my synapses somewhere in my brain know where I left them.
I can't consciously, So divine mind, high mind, consciousness, keys,
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my synapses, you all get together. I'm gonna go about
my life and just pull me to the keys. Ten
minutes I found them, goodness. And when I went to
reach the keys, almost as clearly as I'm talking to you, Rob,
they said, we can't walk, but your system works. Try it.
And all the time, that's ten years ago, I don't
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seventy two I misplaced uff. All the time I got
stacks and stacks and stacks of stuff, and I never
go look for anything. I think about it, and I'm
drawn to it. Within a moment or two, several years
ago in the garage, I used that technique to help
me find my keys, which I had accidentally dropped in
the recycle bin. I meditated, and I asked the universe
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to soon I opened my eyes, show me a sign
to show me right where my keys are right now.
And I opened my eyes and there's a screwdriver I
left on the floor that's pointing right over the recycle bin.
I didn't know I had them in my hand when
I turned the recycling bin over it. They're at the
bottom of the damn recycling bin.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So what you were doing, what you were doing was
you were reading the signs.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Absolutely and creating a system causing the fact. It doesn't
just happen. You can make the universe happen to your
cause and effect. We know it about evil stuff, Yes,
let's think about it. How much power we have is
in the good stuff? So yeah, little techniques like that.
I've gotten so many techniques, whether it's watching TV. I
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watched the football games, I watched the Super Bowl yesterday,
New Kansas City was won by thirty one.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, that was a good game.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It was a good game. But I watched the games
a little bit, not that I'm into football. I try
to see where the ball is going to go, who's
going to run which way? And I get about seventy
five eighty percent, right, I don't gambler. Nobody knows. It's
at me. It's my own little practice on Sunday, and
I don't want to hear the announcer. I use everything
as a practice now. I'm a little bit obsessed with
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it because of my near death experience, and I've been
involved in psychic phenomenon my whole lot. But even if
you're a back or run a cash register or a salesman,
doesn't mean you can't find your own way to start
reading the signs and empower yourself. Look at life for
the new things that can show you and offer you.
If you want to be fresh, you know, if you don't,
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you can stay limited. It's a choice.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I would imagine Gary that it all all goes back
to how we used to in the olden days. You
know how we used to not take anything for granted,
Like you got as much in of the day as
you could.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I remember as a kid playing outside, you know, from
early morning, coming in for lunch, going back out, coming
back in for supper, going back out, you know, doing homework,
going outside, communicating with my parents, having meals with the parents,
not having these little electronic gizmos that everybody plays with
instead of communicating verbally, you know. I remember taking walks.
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We lived in a beautiful country area south of Montreal,
and we had a stream in front of our house,
and I remember walking and listening to the stream, hearing
the frogs croaking, actually hearing me the way talking to
God exactly exactly, feeling as part of one, one with all,
one with universe. And then as I progressively got over,
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especially in the broadcast industry, it stops until I realized, hey,
I myself am missing this. So now I go out
for walks in the morning, and once again I hear nature.
Once again, I feel part in one with the universe.
And it's a great feeling. And if anybody cannot feel that,
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just let it happen. It'll happen. You just have to
open yourself up and say I'm here, I'm listening, I'm part.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well, Rob, you'd listened to your own signs, and you
made a change and you benefited. Yes, definitely, pretty much
that simple. I really want to look at it, you know,
look at the signs. Are you feeling good or feeling bad?
And you know what you did is basically going well,
I can't change, so I'm going to change the present,
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you know, and that will start a new trajectory to
a new future and not the one that was on default.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And and I really think that the youth of today
and so many people have been lost in the in
the sociological you know puzzle that face each and every day,
that that they're missing so much. Gary, how do we
how do we how do we teach them? How do
we get the message across to them? Like you and
I are doing our very best tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, I kind of look at the younger generation as uh,
get off your damn phone, talk to people, get off
your phone, get off the damn internet, don't talk to people,
text everything, don't follow faith, don't give a damn about
what your friend's making for dinner. Do some of substance,
think of substance, whether but you know, millennials or your
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ninety you have to do that in life or you
get stale. And if you do your part to make
the world better by enlightening yourself and doing your best
thing rather than app you're doing to benefit yourself into
the whole world, everybody benefits. So I think I grew
up with six brothers. Man, I was so used to
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three or four, five people at dinner or seven and arguments.
You know. When it came politics and Nixon, well we
were a divided house, a divided time in nineteen seventies,
it was. But we learned from talking and inn and
communicating and compromising and lists. Yeah, a lot of that
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has kind of disappeared in the digital age. But still,
if you want to have sex, you got to deal
with the human being. If you want to be in
a football team or a team, you got to actually
talk and be there. You can't do that over text,
you know, over TV. So there's even though a lot
of stuff is going to high tech and I guess
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not personal. The humans is a personal animal. On back
to it one another, the question is are you going
to pursue it or go back to the media, or
go back to the two, go back to the phone.
It's to be evolved with you other involved with other
human beings.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I think the biggest mistake the educational field has made
over the years, and I've been blasted by listeners who
are teachers and principles and people who are on the
board of education of many communities and throughout the states
in Canada, is that children are not being taught in school.
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I see school these days as a babysitting service to
the parents because if children were being taught, you don't
need a cell phone to be taught. Teach them how
to use their brain, absolutely, how to be members of society,
how to communicate, because one of these days, Gary, and
I'm not a psychic, my friend, and you know that
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one of these days there's going to be another EMF
or solar flare's gonna knock out the electronic grid. What
are these kids going to do?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It's not if it's when the inevitable is going to happen. Absolutely,
I I went to Catholic school from the third to
the seventh grade. I was a learned Latin because I
was an Ultimore damn gueen Lativikat you've been to tempt
says pox Dominus Bridge to do. I knew the whole mass.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Of Latin I nearly yelled bingo for something.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
There you go. I learned Spanish by the eighth grade.
By the seventh grade, a new Spanish. Uh So there
was a good education. It was hard, but it was good,
and even the public schools were the more demanding. I
think it is more of a babysitter job, and unfortunately
it's because so much distraction in society. However, you still
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have people who are going to exhale work hard. Yeah,
you're going to have a lot of people get lost
in the latest stupid thing. And part of it is
not communicating with humans and not growing and not evolving.
But h hill, I'm sure fifty years ago there was
problems that made people less successful than they could have
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been as well. Maybe this be su fighting horses and
not enough time going to school.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yep, so most probably. But listen, my friend, you and
I have to take our final break for this hour,
and Gary, when we come back, we'll continue this very
interesting conversation. Thanks very much for joining us and x
O nation. Gary will be back with me, and if
you'd like to find out more information about my good
friend Gary Wimmer, visit his website www dot Lithomenci dot com.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
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Speaker 1 (34:07):
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Speaker 3 (34:11):
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Speaker 2 (34:56):
Welcome back every one.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Gary Wimer is our special guest and Gary's site is
lithomancy dot com and he's also the author of Lithomancy,
The Psychic Art of Reading Stones. Now, Gary and I
were talking about reading stones earlier this this hour, and
during the commercial break, I asked Gary if he could
give us a demonstration of how a stone reading goes
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using me. Now, this is unrehearsed, this is unedited. Whatever
Gary says will.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Not be altered.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So Gary, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Okay, Rob, what I've got I've got these sixteen stones
in my hand right, ten of them planet stones, yeah,
six of personal stones, and all you have to do,
and it feels right one time will clearly just say
draw okay, they drop, app you drop okay. Well, right
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here I read in the center and I'll give you
kind of an idea. You've got the Louckstone at the
very very top. You're at twelve o'clock, so it's showing
a lucky cycle for you in it in an accident.
It's because you've been doing a lot of planning, a
lot of fresh strategy, a lot of expansion. And over
the next couple of weeks you've got Neptune right next
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to Uranus that has a lot to do with not
only changes, but new plans and new dreams, and it
almost underscores your real desire to know more yourself. That
seems to be something growing in you, probably from talking
to so many people so long. That is true now
both the fourth and fifth week here you're kind of
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just pinnacle with Jupiter and Venus, and that shows a
lot of balance coming in your life, which is really
going to help long term on this healing, love things,
family things over the long term. So as you start
this lucky cycle and make a commitment to your business,
you're also making a commitment subconsciously and spiritually to this
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new balance that you have that you can provide other
people both in the future and heal from the past
and springs strong techniques and communication. By the sixth of
the ninth week, here Mercury is right next to the environment,
so it's showing not only an inuation of your show
and so forth, but like a new sort of zest.
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And again, I think your curiosity is coming through, probably
more than it has, which is good because there's a
strong triangle here starting with twelve o'clock, the lux stone
you're bringing in this new luck venus by about this
fourth or fifth week, and this love stone outside the
circle near both Pluto, which is healing and the Sunstone,
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which is like new goals, because you are healing over
a lot of past stuff and bringing that to power.
So it don't be surprised if the ninth of the
twelfth week, emotionally and on a practical level business level,
you've really brought this triangle into play, brought this spirituality.
Triangles represent the Trinity or pyramids, third eye. That makes
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sense to you, Rob, it sure does, and as usual
you're dead on. Well that's through three months in ninety seconds.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, thank you so much for that, my friend. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
What has been your most rewarding part of the work
that you do with people helping them to understand life,
helping them to get back on to a path, you know,
doing the readings? There must be there must be those
special times and those people that have just touched you away.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Oh very You know, as a musician, I went through
very severe depression because I had a crappy voice and
trying to figure out to make a live and playing music.
Uh so I've been through a lot of extremes, a
lot of depression.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Wait a second, Wait a second, Wait a second, Pal,
I've got to tell you something. What's that You sound
a heck of a lot better than Chris Christofferson does.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Well, I might agree to that, and he's a pretty
flat signing.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Oh god, anyway, I'm giving you a compliment.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, thank you, Rob. I use myself as an example of,
like I said, not having the great gift of something
very important in music, but having the attitude and that's
what my near death experience taught me. And what was
the question again.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I said, I was asking about the people that you
touched doing what you do. If there's one or two
examples or stories that you could share with us.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
There's actually a lot of them, because I dedicate myself
at my age in the last ten years to making
the world better the best way I can. I find
power people. If I can help people realize that there's
light and there's creativity, and there's infinite power that we
are tied to through a spiritual umbilical cord, and if
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we yank on it and practice and ask, we can grow.
And one thing I find very important for your listeners
and for everybody is our guides. Our higher mind knows
the rule not to interfere with human free will. Yeah,
so if you really want to benefit, you have to ask,
you have to practice, you have to and if you
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do that, you learn the tools and techniques to accomplish
everything in life. I'm the happiest person on the planet,
rob because every day I get to decide that and
nobody gets to outvote me. Period.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You know, we were talking about how other people can
empower other people, and I'd like to give an example.
When I was growing up, Like I said, we lived
on the south shore of Montreal, and my dad, God
bless him, he's still with us. He's in his nineties now.
He a hard working man, a wonderful dad, a man
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that I don't believe anyone on this planet can equal.
He used to be a presser, press clothes. He was
on his feet all day long. He'd go in at
seven o'clock in the morning and he'd come home at
seven o'clock at night, have supper, and God bless him,
he was tired at the end of the day. During
the summertime, we'd sit out on the front porch overlooking
that river, and there was a train bridge that we
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could see because the train tracks were not very far
from our home. And my dad and all his infinite wisdom,
looked at me and he said, you know, son, no
matter what happens in life, no matter how dark it gets,
there's always a light at the end of the tunnel.
And as a child, this just kind of inspired me.
And just as I was getting so embraced in the moment,
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he said, but in your case, it might be an
oncoming train, and that's the God's truth. The message that
I got from my dad was never be too sure
of what is coming down the track, whether it's the
light at the end of the tunnel, at the end
of the tunnel, or if it's a train, be prepared
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for whatever life sends you.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Rob. It's interesting because I wrote a song that goes,
keep your eyes wide open no matter what you do, because, uh,
the scrds you play, because the lightst end tunnel could
be the train coming back on you. Wow. And you
wrote a song about that.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And you said there were no coincidences there, you go,
there are no coins.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
They're just And that's what I think people should realize
in life. That stuff happens that we have no control over.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's a script we're following.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Pardon me, it's like a script we're following to some degree.
But we do get choices of whether we go right
or lift yep.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Now, you know as well as I do that any
good actor has that leniency given to him by the director.
And I think this is what God has done, or
the ultimate power, or is the great Spirit in the sky,
whatever you want to call this universal force. We're given latitude,
a lot, yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And and creativity and free will big time, big time.
I think some people are luckier than others. Some people
have better voices, some people are brought up with better
standards and so forth. But the conditions were in every
one of us is exactly where the conditions we need
(43:16):
to be and to learn what we came to learn.
The question is do we open our minds up and
learn it or do we keep making the same mistakes.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Would you say it's more important to open the heart
than it is to open the mind.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, I think so, because the mind is lived, and
right before my near death experience is one of the
things that really freaked me out is my logical mind.
It it completes and could not figure out why this
was going on. I had to depend on heart, I
had to depend on soul. The mind is great for
negotiating and analyzing the time to cut it off and
(43:53):
let the spirit and the heart and the soul guide
the way because the mind law always says, the light
on is the light off? Is the light on? Just
light off? You know the Tuggle War. So what's next
for you?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Gary? What are you going to be doing in the
near future. You're a psychic, you should know this.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I'm actually relaxing a lot. I'm going to be speaking
of a couple. I NAD International Association with your Death Studies.
I do some courses on psychic readings. Of course, I
do a lot of readings. Sometimes I do for groups
and functions. And meanwhile, I've had quite some serious back problems.
I can't walk too well. So I decided to screw that.
(44:36):
I'm building a fence, building a huge seater fence in
my backyard, new Gate and everything. Uh, just to motivate
myself to not consider my handicap something that's gonna screw
with me. The fence is too expensive for me to hire.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Oh jeez, tell me about it. Well, if you when
you're finished yours, Gary, you can come up and help
me do mine.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
The ones enough, I'll thank you anything for you at
fince Billin's not my main thing.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Hey, Gary, As always, when you're with me, my man,
time goes by so fast. I want to thank you
ever so much for joining us. Gary. I appreciate you.
I appreciate the message that you share with those that
are fortunate enough to be touched by you, and thank
you for the reading.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
You too, and Rob keep doing what you're doing. You
make people for you loud to say God bless you brother.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Thank you very much, Gary, and x O Nation. If
you'd like to get a stone reading from Gary, just
go to his website lithomancy dot com and we're going
to be putting that on. Gary's the little information that
we put on for all of you who want to
go to our podcasts or even our website where we
have all the information about our guests. Once again, his
(45:43):
website is lithomancy dot com. I'll be back on the
other side of this commercial break with the news as
we continue here in the X Zone from our broadcast
center in studios in Niagro, Ontario, Canada. Up next, doctor
John Brandenburg is my guest. I'm Rob McConnell. This is
the XO Stuck Away
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