December 24, 2025 • 50 mins
In this fascinating interview, Giorgio A. Tsoukalos explores the foundations and implications of the Ancient Astronaut Theory. Tsoukalos examines ancient texts, archaeological anomalies, advanced engineering feats, and global myths that suggest humanity may have had contact with extraterrestrial intelligences in the distant past. From the pyramids and megalithic structures to ancient art and sacred knowledge, this discussion challenges conventional history and asks whether ancient civilizations possessed help—or knowledge—from beyond Earth. A thought-provoking conversation for anyone intrigued by UFOs, ancient mysteries, and humanity’s possible cosmic origins.
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each and every one of you have seen him on
Let's see Sci Fi Channel, National Geographic Channel, the Travel Channel,
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the History Channel, and he's considered to be the foremost
authority in the ancient astronaut field. You probably have guessed
by now that my guest this hour is Giorgio Sucullis.
And Georgio, it's such a great pleasure talking to you
again after all these years you've been one busy person,
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and anyone who knows anything about ancient astronaut theory knows you, because,
as I said during the intro, you are the leading
authority right now in that field.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh, get out of here. Thank you very much for
his amazing introduction, and I'm glad to be back in
the show, and I'm glad to hear that everything is well.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
With you, Georgio. Over the years, how much progress has
there been in the the proving to the non believers
that ancient astronauts really have been here thousands of years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, I mean absolutely nothing, because you know, the pieces
of evidence that we've had twenty years ago or fifteen
years ago are as vaid as they are today. Some
have been removed, some have been added. For example, you
know that one lintel stone in Egypt at Dendera that
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looks like a helicopter or a tank and a UFO
that has for years, for decades, that has been considered
to be, you know, the smoking gun for ancient aliens.
And the bottom line is that what we're looking at
there is absolutely not what it seems to be. But
there are in fact two hieroglyphs superimposed on each other
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in three different locations, thus creating something that looks like
a helicopter, looks like a UFO, and looks like a tank.
But they never were those three things ever. And you know,
so things like that to me, when you, you know,
eliminate that piece of evidence, and I've done that already
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back in two thousand and six, and people are still
looking at that as a valid piece of evidence, then
you know, it's kind of unfortunate that nobody is doing
the appropriate research to figure out, you know, what what
can be, which evidence is correct and which one isn't.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
In your opinion, Georgio, what is the smoking gun?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, there are multiple avenues that you that one can
go with this answer, But personally, I do think that
there's this one site in the highlands of the Andes
on the border between Bolivia and Peru, and it's on
the Bolivian side of Late Lake Titicaka. It's a site
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called Puma Punku, and there we have these massive pieces
of stones, these monumental blocks that have been cut with
incredible precision, and that to me, you know, archaeologists claim
that that was all done with nothing else but a
bunch of copper tools and maybe with some chicken bones,
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and you know, if you're inclined to subscribe to that,
that's fine.
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We're gonna have little bit of a cliffhanger here, Georgia,
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And welcome back everyone. This is the ex Online. Name
is Rob McConnell. My very special guest is Giorgio Sucullis.
And Georgio. There's something happening in the desert between starting
on the ninth of August going all the way through
the eleventh of August. Michael Lachman was with us last
week talking about it, and it's called Contact in the Desert.
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The website is www dot Contact in the Desert dot net.
And I understand you're going to be at that that event.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yes, I will, and so will a whole bunch of
other people. I mean, it's a it's going to be
if you ever wanted to meet the half of the
cast of Ancient Aliens. We're all going to be at
that conference. Stephen Greer, David Wilcock, Michael Tellinger, Jason Martel, William, Henry,
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it's going to be a Michael cremo even Wow, it's
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August ninth, three eleventh. So if you haven't gotten your
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and see what's up.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Why do you think even today you and I have
been talking for the last twenty years about extraterrestrials e
T and the entire genre. It seems like everything.
Speaker 11 (13:48):
Is by the way.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It hasn't been. It hasn't been twenty years. It's been
maybe about around fifteen or so.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You know, you're you're right, you're right, you're right. I've
been doing that. I've been doing the show for.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
We're not that old. We're old, but we're.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Not that old. All right, Thank you very much for
correcting me that kind of correction. I'll go for any
the other week.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
See, there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But more and more people are wanting answers Georgio. They're
not settling for the answers that the rumor mill is
has been dishing out over the years. And yet, and yet,
with all the hard work that independent researchers and television
shows like yours are doing in the field to get
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the answers out there, everything is the same way as
it was when we first started talking about it, going
back fifteen years ago. There has been no significant find
to help the believers.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That is correct. I absolutely agree with what we're saying. However,
the fact that shows like Ancient Aliens, for example, now
are on TV and they're fairly successful, that to me
means that there is an insatiable curiosity out there. And
(15:06):
you know, of course there are new pieces of evidence
that have been found that maybe we haven't yet talked
about on Ancient Aliens, but for example, there there now
has been some genetic research that we've examined that suggests
that the idea of the voice box, that we are
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the only you know, animal in the animal kingdom that
has a voice box in that sense with which we
can form words and things like that, that that is
due to a you know, genetic alteration of in our
genetic makeup and then people are like, all right, so
it's a survival of the fittest and things like that.
(15:49):
We had to learn how to speak. But then you
look at from another perspective and you're like, wait a second,
what if that that alternate or that genetic alter that altercation,
or that that change. What if that was from a
direct impact of some type of extraterrestrial interference. And you know,
(16:12):
nobody has the answers to that, but I think they're
valid questions.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Just look at the just look at the Bible for
goodness sake, and all the references that have been made
to the the the the Elohim are those who came
down from the sky, the Nephelin. I'm sorry, those who
came down from the skies and the and the references
that you can easily interpret to being of an of
an et origin. The work that that Eric von Donokan
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has done, the work that you are doing, and other
credible researchers, you know, hats off to you. But getting
back to the the the credibility factor. I've watched your show.
It's great, I love it, but there are other Mickey
Mouse shows out there that just that you know, like,
I'm sorry it shouldn't even be on the because what
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they do is they just go off the deep end.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, I mean that is you know, and I appreciate
that you're saying this because you know, just the other
day I did another interview, a radio interview, and the
interviewer asked me, so, do you agree that they might
be Playadian's or so that they might be from the plates,
or do you rather think that they're you know, from
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some other part of the solars, I mean, another part
of the universe or the galaxy. And I said to
the guy, said, you know, who cares? This is the
this is the problem why this whole topic isn't totally
accepted into mainstream society because you know, here we are
in the fields, quibbling about, you know, where are they from,
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what were their names? You know, all those different things,
while we completely overlook the one glaring thing, and that is, hey,
we've been visited from out there or they're still here actually,
and who cares where they're from. They're from out there.
That's all we need to know, so, you know, and
that is sensational enough. But you know, unfortunately we need
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to somehow, you know, make it more complicated, and that
I think is one of the reasons, you know why
some of those other shows, you know that people think
that they have gone completely off of the deep off
the deep end, and that is not how you reach
the mainstream by you know, embracing fringe ideas.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I've had people on the show who've told me that
they've been abducted by the aliens, that the aliens took
them through their bedroom walls and into a spacecraft that
eighty miles high, five hundred miles wide, and they were
taken on a tour of the Solar System and returned
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back to their beds. But before they were returned back
to theirs, they saw infants in test tubes, you know,
like and and I just say, well, you know, maybe
what if? And then it's like no.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, it's some stories are are really difficult to to
you know, follow, but you know, you never say never.
See That's the that's the thing, that's what's so crazy
about this entire topic, because we just don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
With all the modern technology that we have now, Georgia,
why do you think that there has not been that
all conclusive photograph taken of either a UFO, a mothership
or an alien an extraterrestrial, I should say, I say.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That is a perfect that is a perfect question. But
at the same time, you know, when's the last time
you took a really good picture of the moon or
of the star with your camera, I mean, with your
with your cell phone camera, you know. And I'm not
making any excuses, and I completely understand the question, and
(20:11):
I agree with you that you know, where is the
you know, sharp focused HD footage of some type of
a craft. And you know, one could argue that footage
like that exists, but in my opinion, a lot of
that stuff that is crisp is you know cgi.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Sure, do you think the governments of the world are
actually perpetrating a cover up and a conspiracy when it
comes to UFOs and these ets?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't think so, because you know, when you go
down to the d m V, you know how the
government works, it's it's a complete you know, the one hand,
the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is
doing almost and so you know, I really don't think
there is a cover up going on in that sense,
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because you know, otherwise shows like yours or Ancient Aliens
wouldn't exist and we couldn't be talking about these things.
I really do think that there is something going on,
but what it is, nobody has a clue.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Nobody when people meet you outside or at the conventions,
at the at the seminars that you do, or when
you're on the set doing Ancient Aliens, what kind of quote?
What is the main question that you get asked?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, the main question I could ask is you know,
how did I get into all of this? And I
usually have to, you know, tell them that, you know,
I got introduced to this by my grand grandma, and
that I had the great, you know, possibility to travel
around the world with my parents as a little kid,
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and so everywhere we went they showed us around the
monuments and things like that, and then upon returning home,
my grandma would always say, all right, so you've just
learned the mainstream view of those places. Let me now
introduce you that there's another viewpoint.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And so as a very young kid, five six, seven
years old, I was introduced to alternative ideas of history.
Even though you know my mom, I mean, my grandma,
she you know, went to church every Sunday, so you know,
one thing did not eliminate the other, just because you know,
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she was a Bible fearing woman that did not preclude
her from embracing extraterrestrials or the at least the ideas
of you know, such topics.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Giorgio stan By, my friend, you and I have to
take our commercial break. We'll be back after the news
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and we all know him from television on Ancient Aliens.
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And once again, thanks very much for joining us tonight. Georgio.
It's great talking to you after all these years, after
with all the traveling you've done during the during your
lifetime and recently doing your TV show. Has there any
have you come across anything that has been like a
(29:41):
Eureka moment for you that just blew you out of
the water.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, there's always a few little things that you come
across where you constantly put together the puzzle. But I
mean my Eureka moments happened a long time ago when
I visited Puma Punku the first time, or when I
visited certain museums around the world, when I and slowly
but truly you all, you know, you put it together
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and now it's it's just that the picture just starts
to emerge a little bit more clear then let's say
fifteen years ago. And you know, the more and more
people send stuff in, like you know, of statues that
they have found somewhere else at a museum where I've
never been to. So with the Internet and with Facebook especially,
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you know, we we become an even more connected planet,
and so that networking has been invaluable in trying to
figure out, you know, what was it all about? What
is it all about? And you know, it's it's amazing,
how I mean, even on Ancient Aliens we are discussing
stuff where I personally didn't even know it existed. So,
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you know, it's amazing what our research team has come
up with. I mean, they're doing a spectacular.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Job now for our listeners around the world who may
be asking themselves, what is this Ancient Aliens TV show
that these two guys are talking about. It's very simple exhonation.
Ancient Aliens explores the theories that extraterrestrials have visited Earth
for millions of years now. That goes from the Age
of Dinosaurs to ancient Egypt, to early cave drawings to
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continued mass sightings in the United States and in each
episode in the It's a hit TV series on History Channel,
the series gives a historic depth to questions, speculations, provocative controversies,
first hand accounts, and grounded theories surrounding this age old
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debate the question did intelligent beings from outer space actually
visit Earth thousands of years ago. Do you think that
question has been answered, Georgio.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
In my mind, yes it has, because you know, I,
to me, the whole ancient astnaut theory is not and
it never has been a matter of belief. It has
always been a matter of knowing. I mean, I'm convinced
that they were here. I don't need any you know,
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a piece of a crashed spaceship or something like that.
I don't need that because the evidence that we have
in the ancient texts and the statues and the paintings
and all the different relics from our ancient past, they point,
of course, in my opinion, in one clear direction. And
(32:41):
you know, if somebody wants to disagree with that, that
is fine. I have absolutely no problem with anyone disagreeing
with any of the conclusions that we draw on ancient aliens.
And that's good. Debate is good. It becomes strange and
bizarre when the debate, you know, turns to become if
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the attacks become insulting and things like that, because then
it's no longer a debate and it's just you know,
hurling insults, and that's really not That does not advance anything.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Why is there so much discord between different organizations within
the UFO community. Why can't they work together, share the
information and solve the mystery.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You know, that's really funny that you should should ask
that question, because I just finished editing an article for
Legendary Times in which the author asks that exact same question.
Because you know, we're all in this together, but it
seems that, you know, everybody wants to reinvent the wheel.
(33:49):
Everybody is has petty hang ups with somebody else, and
it's it's strange, you know, when when in actuality we
should in a way, how we can you know, bridge
the gap between our field and the mainstream and things
like that, But you know, it's it's strange. I mean, sure,
(34:11):
just for just for the conference as well, you know,
I mean there's some people and you read this on
your Facebook wall. It's like, well, yes I will, I
will go to this, but no, I checked the people
in attendance. Because of one person, I'm not going. I mean,
it's just so odd. You have, you know, a lineup
of fifty of the best people, and because one person
(34:34):
that you don't like, you're not going to go to
the whole event. I mean, that's crazy. So you know,
it's just people are bizarre. It's just we live in
a very strange world.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Strange as an understatement, my friend speaking about speaking speaking
about strange. One of the strangest topics that I deal
with here on this show. And I know that you
people on Ancient Aliens have have covered this. It's called
you know, it's the alien abduction scenario. And at the conference,
(35:08):
Travis Walton's going to be there. And I've had the
pleasure of having Travis on the show many times. I
find him to be very credible. Something happened. When you
look at the big picture and you you know, you
don't look at the movie, but you talk to Travis himself,
you can hear it. You can hear the memories coming
(35:29):
up to the surface, and you get a sense of
what he might have gone through because no one will
ever know except Travis. Where do you believe the alien
abduction scenario fits into the UFO Ancient Alien Realm?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, well, Travis Walton too, will will appear at their conference.
And I just actually ran into Travis only a couple
of weeks ago when we both appeared at San Diego
Comic Con for different events, but we made a point
to see each other, and he looked very good and
was very excited to be at Comic Con. And I
(36:13):
think that the whole abduction phenomenon fits into the ancient
asnaut theory very very well, because you know, there are
or we have ancient stories of abductions where for example,
where you have the Apocalypse of Abraham, where it's no
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longer it used to be a part of the Bible.
But if you are now trying to go and look
for that passage in you know, in the Irregular Bible,
you're not going to find it because it was taken out,
so it is now an apocryphal text. And it describes
how Abraham was taking up in a fiery chariot where
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he was able to see the round of the earth,
where he felt as if he was falling down, and
then he was upside down again, and then he was
right side up and upside down and right side up,
thus describing artificial gravity for example. And you know, so
we have abduction stories also in ancient times. And therefore
(37:17):
I think that you know, to me, it was never
the idea that, oh, okay, so you deal with ancient aliens,
meaning how come they were here? In the past and
where did they go? Why did they disappear? You know,
that was never the idea. Nobody has ever suggested that
just because you know, aliens visited us in the past,
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that that is, you know, restricted to that period in time.
I think that they've always been here with us and
observed their quote unquote experiment.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What is the biggest key to trying to understand this,
this this maze that we're all looking at saying, gee,
there's got to be an answer. It seems as soon
as we get into this maze, we turn right, turn left,
and it's a block. You've got to work your way
all the way back to where you started from. Basically,
(38:12):
is it cooperation? Is it better education? Is it understanding?
Is it mutual respect between all the researchers? What do
we do?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I think it's everything that you just mentioned, because you know,
in the end, most certainly is it's collaboration. But at
the same time, you know, it's also where we live
in this time where the digital age, you know, I mean,
(38:44):
if you remember fifteen years ago, this whole digital age thing,
it just it only began. Now it is common knowledge.
Everybody grows up with it. It's second nature. But fifteen years ago,
the internet was something exciting, it was something new, and
you know, so that is something that we have all
(39:07):
become to experience from the cradle basically to where it
is now. But I don't think that we are using
it to the most effective of ways by accessing you know,
other people's research, I mean exactly. You know, it's very
individualized still, despite the Internet, and that's strange.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah. I was talking to Butch Witkowski last night and
he is with the Paufo Research Center, and it seems
like the majority of researchers and I'm putting that name
in brackets here are just like the armchair quarterbacks. They
do their research on the computers with other people's work
(39:52):
instead of going out into the field and doing the
research firsthand. You know, you you do it on your shows.
You do it well.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And that is the thing that you know that once
once you go out and you go to the libraries
or you and you look at the texts, or you
go and look at the monuments, or you look at
the artifacts in the different museums, that is way different.
You have no idea how many times a week or
(40:23):
a month, I am sent an article with pictures that
were clearly photoshopped, you know, not thinking that hey, Georgia
might have actually been at that site and he knows
that that stone is certainly not there and definitely not
in that configuration, or you know, I mean, it's it's frightening.
What in this day and age passes for real? And
(40:45):
you know, all this stuff online on YouTube about you know,
the discoveries of bones of giants and things like that.
Those are all great stories, but has a an actual
fossilized giant bone been discovered? No, Only replicas are in
museums or in those different places in those exhibits. They're
(41:07):
never the actual bone where you can go and do
some DNA testing. And that to me is a telltale
sign of it not being genuine. But does that change
my opinion on the ancient asnaut theory. Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
You know, it's just like the other areas of the
paranormal when it comes to hoaxes, fakes, lack of evidence
or created evidence to try and pull the wool over
the eyes of the unsuspecting Bigfoot. For example, all we
have are these casts. There's no evidence whatsoever that can
be taken to a lab for DNA analysis. There's never
(41:45):
been a cadaver found of a bigfoot. The same thing
goes for the Lockness monster, and so on and so forth. Right,
you know, I always say, Georgio, that the Internet is
the largest septic tank ever created by mankind.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh the Internet. I cannot even tell you how much
I agree with that statement. It is frightening. Nobody everybody
checks their brain at the door the moment they turn
on that machine. I mean, it is wild. I mean
I would be embarrassed to, uh, you know, volunteer some
(42:25):
of the thoughts that people post on Facebook. And not
just that they post it, but it's it's it's a
it's just a knee jerk reaction. Nobody turns on their
brain anymore before they talk. And that is really disconcerting,
highly fascinating and amusing and humorous, but at the same time,
it's it's it's horrifying.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
And and look what we're doing with our kids in school,
giving them all this technology instead of the old way
of communicating by talking to the person and understanding. Georgio,
stand by, good friend. You and I have to take
our final break. We'll be back in about four minutes
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Get rid of the sensationalism, get rid of the special effects,
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Speaker 1 (48:23):
I appreciate the words, Rob, that's that's truly nice of you.
And you know, Promeses Entertainment, especially Kevin Burns, he's the
executive producer. He's doing a really fantastic job at you know,
just presenting, presenting the sides and raising the questions because
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there's only a few that say that that is how
it was. Everybody else raises questions. And since when is
raising questions? Since when has that become a problem?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
You know, raising a question is only a problem if
you have if you're hiding the truth and the answers right,
you know, and the truth is out there. I love that.
I love that saying you have to keep looking for
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and I were talking about, going to the libraries, going
to the sites, doing the footwork, doing the gumshoe work yourself. Georgio,
you and I have to say so long for tonight.
I wish you continued success, have a great time at
the Contact in the Desert, and we'll look forward to
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in the ex.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Zone sounds great. Thank you very much, Rob for having me.
It was a great.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Pleasure, my great pleasure, and regards to you and the
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Georgiosuklass has been my special guest.
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authority in the ancient astronaut field. You probably have guessed
by now that my guest this hour is Giorgio Sucullis.
And Georgio, it's such a great pleasure talking to you
again after all these years you've been one busy person,
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and anyone who knows anything about ancient astronaut theory knows you, because,
as I said during the intro, you are the leading
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Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh, get out of here. Thank you very much for
his amazing introduction, and I'm glad to be back in
the show, and I'm glad to hear that everything is well.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
With you, Georgio. Over the years, how much progress has
there been in the the proving to the non believers
that ancient astronauts really have been here thousands of years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, I mean absolutely nothing, because you know, the pieces
of evidence that we've had twenty years ago or fifteen
years ago are as vaid as they are today. Some
have been removed, some have been added. For example, you
know that one lintel stone in Egypt at Dendera that
(04:57):
looks like a helicopter or a tank and a UFO
that has for years, for decades, that has been considered
to be, you know, the smoking gun for ancient aliens.
And the bottom line is that what we're looking at
there is absolutely not what it seems to be. But
there are in fact two hieroglyphs superimposed on each other
(05:22):
in three different locations, thus creating something that looks like
a helicopter, looks like a UFO, and looks like a tank.
But they never were those three things ever. And you know,
so things like that to me, when you, you know,
eliminate that piece of evidence, and I've done that already
(05:43):
back in two thousand and six, and people are still
looking at that as a valid piece of evidence, then
you know, it's kind of unfortunate that nobody is doing
the appropriate research to figure out, you know, what what
can be, which evidence is correct and which one isn't.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
In your opinion, Georgio, what is the smoking gun?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, there are multiple avenues that you that one can
go with this answer, But personally, I do think that
there's this one site in the highlands of the Andes
on the border between Bolivia and Peru, and it's on
the Bolivian side of Late Lake Titicaka. It's a site
(06:34):
called Puma Punku, and there we have these massive pieces
of stones, these monumental blocks that have been cut with
incredible precision, and that to me, you know, archaeologists claim
that that was all done with nothing else but a
bunch of copper tools and maybe with some chicken bones,
(06:55):
and you know, if you're inclined to subscribe to that,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
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And welcome back everyone. This is the ex Online. Name
is Rob McConnell. My very special guest is Giorgio Sucullis.
And Georgio. There's something happening in the desert between starting
on the ninth of August going all the way through
the eleventh of August. Michael Lachman was with us last
week talking about it, and it's called Contact in the Desert.
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The website is www dot Contact in the Desert dot net.
And I understand you're going to be at that that event.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yes, I will, and so will a whole bunch of
other people. I mean, it's a it's going to be
if you ever wanted to meet the half of the
cast of Ancient Aliens. We're all going to be at
that conference. Stephen Greer, David Wilcock, Michael Tellinger, Jason Martel, William, Henry,
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Michael Sayah, David sa Sareda, you know, Richard Dolan. I mean,
it's going to be a Michael cremo even Wow, it's
going to be a great event, and it's going to
be in Joshua at the Joshua Tree Retreat Center from
August ninth, three eleventh. So if you haven't gotten your
tickets yet, go over get over to contactingdesert dot net
(13:30):
and see what's up.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Why do you think even today you and I have
been talking for the last twenty years about extraterrestrials e
T and the entire genre. It seems like everything.
Speaker 11 (13:48):
Is by the way.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It hasn't been. It hasn't been twenty years. It's been
maybe about around fifteen or so.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You know, you're you're right, you're right, you're right. I've
been doing that. I've been doing the show for.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
We're not that old. We're old, but we're.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Not that old. All right, Thank you very much for
correcting me that kind of correction. I'll go for any
the other week.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
See, there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But more and more people are wanting answers Georgio. They're
not settling for the answers that the rumor mill is
has been dishing out over the years. And yet, and yet,
with all the hard work that independent researchers and television
shows like yours are doing in the field to get
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the answers out there, everything is the same way as
it was when we first started talking about it, going
back fifteen years ago. There has been no significant find
to help the believers.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That is correct. I absolutely agree with what we're saying. However,
the fact that shows like Ancient Aliens, for example, now
are on TV and they're fairly successful, that to me
means that there is an insatiable curiosity out there. And
(15:06):
you know, of course there are new pieces of evidence
that have been found that maybe we haven't yet talked
about on Ancient Aliens, but for example, there there now
has been some genetic research that we've examined that suggests
that the idea of the voice box, that we are
(15:27):
the only you know, animal in the animal kingdom that
has a voice box in that sense with which we
can form words and things like that, that that is
due to a you know, genetic alteration of in our
genetic makeup and then people are like, all right, so
it's a survival of the fittest and things like that.
(15:49):
We had to learn how to speak. But then you
look at from another perspective and you're like, wait a second,
what if that that alternate or that genetic alter that altercation,
or that that change. What if that was from a
direct impact of some type of extraterrestrial interference. And you know,
(16:12):
nobody has the answers to that, but I think they're
valid questions.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Just look at the just look at the Bible for
goodness sake, and all the references that have been made
to the the the the Elohim are those who came
down from the sky, the Nephelin. I'm sorry, those who
came down from the skies and the and the references
that you can easily interpret to being of an of
an et origin. The work that that Eric von Donokan
(16:40):
has done, the work that you are doing, and other
credible researchers, you know, hats off to you. But getting
back to the the the credibility factor. I've watched your show.
It's great, I love it, but there are other Mickey
Mouse shows out there that just that you know, like,
I'm sorry it shouldn't even be on the because what
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they do is they just go off the deep end.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, I mean that is you know, and I appreciate
that you're saying this because you know, just the other
day I did another interview, a radio interview, and the
interviewer asked me, so, do you agree that they might
be Playadian's or so that they might be from the plates,
or do you rather think that they're you know, from
(17:27):
some other part of the solars, I mean, another part
of the universe or the galaxy. And I said to
the guy, said, you know, who cares? This is the
this is the problem why this whole topic isn't totally
accepted into mainstream society because you know, here we are
in the fields, quibbling about, you know, where are they from,
(17:50):
what were their names? You know, all those different things,
while we completely overlook the one glaring thing, and that is, hey,
we've been visited from out there or they're still here actually,
and who cares where they're from. They're from out there.
That's all we need to know, so, you know, and
that is sensational enough. But you know, unfortunately we need
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to somehow, you know, make it more complicated, and that
I think is one of the reasons, you know why
some of those other shows, you know that people think
that they have gone completely off of the deep off
the deep end, and that is not how you reach
the mainstream by you know, embracing fringe ideas.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I've had people on the show who've told me that
they've been abducted by the aliens, that the aliens took
them through their bedroom walls and into a spacecraft that
eighty miles high, five hundred miles wide, and they were
taken on a tour of the Solar System and returned
(18:56):
back to their beds. But before they were returned back
to theirs, they saw infants in test tubes, you know,
like and and I just say, well, you know, maybe
what if? And then it's like no.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, it's some stories are are really difficult to to
you know, follow, but you know, you never say never.
See That's the that's the thing, that's what's so crazy
about this entire topic, because we just don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
With all the modern technology that we have now, Georgia,
why do you think that there has not been that
all conclusive photograph taken of either a UFO, a mothership
or an alien an extraterrestrial, I should say, I say.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That is a perfect that is a perfect question. But
at the same time, you know, when's the last time
you took a really good picture of the moon or
of the star with your camera, I mean, with your
with your cell phone camera, you know. And I'm not
making any excuses, and I completely understand the question, and
(20:11):
I agree with you that you know, where is the
you know, sharp focused HD footage of some type of
a craft. And you know, one could argue that footage
like that exists, but in my opinion, a lot of
that stuff that is crisp is you know cgi.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Sure, do you think the governments of the world are
actually perpetrating a cover up and a conspiracy when it
comes to UFOs and these ets?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't think so, because you know, when you go
down to the d m V, you know how the
government works, it's it's a complete you know, the one hand,
the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is
doing almost and so you know, I really don't think
there is a cover up going on in that sense,
(21:02):
because you know, otherwise shows like yours or Ancient Aliens
wouldn't exist and we couldn't be talking about these things.
I really do think that there is something going on,
but what it is, nobody has a clue.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Nobody when people meet you outside or at the conventions,
at the at the seminars that you do, or when
you're on the set doing Ancient Aliens, what kind of quote?
What is the main question that you get asked?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, the main question I could ask is you know,
how did I get into all of this? And I
usually have to, you know, tell them that, you know,
I got introduced to this by my grand grandma, and
that I had the great, you know, possibility to travel
around the world with my parents as a little kid,
(21:58):
and so everywhere we went they showed us around the
monuments and things like that, and then upon returning home,
my grandma would always say, all right, so you've just
learned the mainstream view of those places. Let me now
introduce you that there's another viewpoint.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And so as a very young kid, five six, seven
years old, I was introduced to alternative ideas of history.
Even though you know my mom, I mean, my grandma,
she you know, went to church every Sunday, so you know,
one thing did not eliminate the other, just because you know,
(22:36):
she was a Bible fearing woman that did not preclude
her from embracing extraterrestrials or the at least the ideas
of you know, such topics.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Giorgio stan By, my friend, you and I have to
take our commercial break. We'll be back after the news
ex oll Nation. Here's a couple of websites. Contact in
the Desert is going to be August the ninth to eleventh.
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this hour is no stranger to the paranormal. The UFOs,
Ancient astronauts, and I'm talking about Georgios who cull Us
and we all know him from television on Ancient Aliens.
(29:21):
And once again, thanks very much for joining us tonight. Georgio.
It's great talking to you after all these years, after
with all the traveling you've done during the during your
lifetime and recently doing your TV show. Has there any
have you come across anything that has been like a
(29:41):
Eureka moment for you that just blew you out of
the water.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, there's always a few little things that you come
across where you constantly put together the puzzle. But I
mean my Eureka moments happened a long time ago when
I visited Puma Punku the first time, or when I
visited certain museums around the world, when I and slowly
but truly you all, you know, you put it together
(30:08):
and now it's it's just that the picture just starts
to emerge a little bit more clear then let's say
fifteen years ago. And you know, the more and more
people send stuff in, like you know, of statues that
they have found somewhere else at a museum where I've
never been to. So with the Internet and with Facebook especially,
(30:32):
you know, we we become an even more connected planet,
and so that networking has been invaluable in trying to
figure out, you know, what was it all about? What
is it all about? And you know, it's it's amazing,
how I mean, even on Ancient Aliens we are discussing
stuff where I personally didn't even know it existed. So,
(30:56):
you know, it's amazing what our research team has come
up with. I mean, they're doing a spectacular.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Job now for our listeners around the world who may
be asking themselves, what is this Ancient Aliens TV show
that these two guys are talking about. It's very simple exhonation.
Ancient Aliens explores the theories that extraterrestrials have visited Earth
for millions of years now. That goes from the Age
of Dinosaurs to ancient Egypt, to early cave drawings to
(31:23):
continued mass sightings in the United States and in each
episode in the It's a hit TV series on History Channel,
the series gives a historic depth to questions, speculations, provocative controversies,
first hand accounts, and grounded theories surrounding this age old
(31:43):
debate the question did intelligent beings from outer space actually
visit Earth thousands of years ago. Do you think that
question has been answered, Georgio.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
In my mind, yes it has, because you know, I,
to me, the whole ancient astnaut theory is not and
it never has been a matter of belief. It has
always been a matter of knowing. I mean, I'm convinced
that they were here. I don't need any you know,
(32:19):
a piece of a crashed spaceship or something like that.
I don't need that because the evidence that we have
in the ancient texts and the statues and the paintings
and all the different relics from our ancient past, they point,
of course, in my opinion, in one clear direction. And
(32:41):
you know, if somebody wants to disagree with that, that
is fine. I have absolutely no problem with anyone disagreeing
with any of the conclusions that we draw on ancient aliens.
And that's good. Debate is good. It becomes strange and
bizarre when the debate, you know, turns to become if
(33:05):
the attacks become insulting and things like that, because then
it's no longer a debate and it's just you know,
hurling insults, and that's really not That does not advance anything.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Why is there so much discord between different organizations within
the UFO community. Why can't they work together, share the
information and solve the mystery.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You know, that's really funny that you should should ask
that question, because I just finished editing an article for
Legendary Times in which the author asks that exact same question.
Because you know, we're all in this together, but it
seems that, you know, everybody wants to reinvent the wheel.
(33:49):
Everybody is has petty hang ups with somebody else, and
it's it's strange, you know, when when in actuality we
should in a way, how we can you know, bridge
the gap between our field and the mainstream and things
like that, But you know, it's it's strange. I mean, sure,
(34:11):
just for just for the conference as well, you know,
I mean there's some people and you read this on
your Facebook wall. It's like, well, yes I will, I
will go to this, but no, I checked the people
in attendance. Because of one person, I'm not going. I mean,
it's just so odd. You have, you know, a lineup
of fifty of the best people, and because one person
(34:34):
that you don't like, you're not going to go to
the whole event. I mean, that's crazy. So you know,
it's just people are bizarre. It's just we live in
a very strange world.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Strange as an understatement, my friend speaking about speaking speaking
about strange. One of the strangest topics that I deal
with here on this show. And I know that you
people on Ancient Aliens have have covered this. It's called
you know, it's the alien abduction scenario. And at the conference,
(35:08):
Travis Walton's going to be there. And I've had the
pleasure of having Travis on the show many times. I
find him to be very credible. Something happened. When you
look at the big picture and you you know, you
don't look at the movie, but you talk to Travis himself,
you can hear it. You can hear the memories coming
(35:29):
up to the surface, and you get a sense of
what he might have gone through because no one will
ever know except Travis. Where do you believe the alien
abduction scenario fits into the UFO Ancient Alien Realm?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, well, Travis Walton too, will will appear at their conference.
And I just actually ran into Travis only a couple
of weeks ago when we both appeared at San Diego
Comic Con for different events, but we made a point
to see each other, and he looked very good and
was very excited to be at Comic Con. And I
(36:13):
think that the whole abduction phenomenon fits into the ancient
asnaut theory very very well, because you know, there are
or we have ancient stories of abductions where for example,
where you have the Apocalypse of Abraham, where it's no
(36:34):
longer it used to be a part of the Bible.
But if you are now trying to go and look
for that passage in you know, in the Irregular Bible,
you're not going to find it because it was taken out,
so it is now an apocryphal text. And it describes
how Abraham was taking up in a fiery chariot where
(36:54):
he was able to see the round of the earth,
where he felt as if he was falling down, and
then he was upside down again, and then he was
right side up and upside down and right side up,
thus describing artificial gravity for example. And you know, so
we have abduction stories also in ancient times. And therefore
(37:17):
I think that you know, to me, it was never
the idea that, oh, okay, so you deal with ancient aliens,
meaning how come they were here? In the past and
where did they go? Why did they disappear? You know,
that was never the idea. Nobody has ever suggested that
just because you know, aliens visited us in the past,
(37:37):
that that is, you know, restricted to that period in time.
I think that they've always been here with us and
observed their quote unquote experiment.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What is the biggest key to trying to understand this,
this this maze that we're all looking at saying, gee,
there's got to be an answer. It seems as soon
as we get into this maze, we turn right, turn left,
and it's a block. You've got to work your way
all the way back to where you started from. Basically,
(38:12):
is it cooperation? Is it better education? Is it understanding?
Is it mutual respect between all the researchers? What do
we do?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I think it's everything that you just mentioned, because you know,
in the end, most certainly is it's collaboration. But at
the same time, you know, it's also where we live
in this time where the digital age, you know, I mean,
(38:44):
if you remember fifteen years ago, this whole digital age thing,
it just it only began. Now it is common knowledge.
Everybody grows up with it. It's second nature. But fifteen years ago,
the internet was something exciting, it was something new, and
you know, so that is something that we have all
(39:07):
become to experience from the cradle basically to where it
is now. But I don't think that we are using
it to the most effective of ways by accessing you know,
other people's research, I mean exactly. You know, it's very
individualized still, despite the Internet, and that's strange.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah. I was talking to Butch Witkowski last night and
he is with the Paufo Research Center, and it seems
like the majority of researchers and I'm putting that name
in brackets here are just like the armchair quarterbacks. They
do their research on the computers with other people's work
(39:52):
instead of going out into the field and doing the
research firsthand. You know, you you do it on your shows.
You do it well.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And that is the thing that you know that once
once you go out and you go to the libraries
or you and you look at the texts, or you
go and look at the monuments, or you look at
the artifacts in the different museums, that is way different.
You have no idea how many times a week or
(40:23):
a month, I am sent an article with pictures that
were clearly photoshopped, you know, not thinking that hey, Georgia
might have actually been at that site and he knows
that that stone is certainly not there and definitely not
in that configuration, or you know, I mean, it's it's frightening.
What in this day and age passes for real? And
(40:45):
you know, all this stuff online on YouTube about you know,
the discoveries of bones of giants and things like that.
Those are all great stories, but has a an actual
fossilized giant bone been discovered? No, Only replicas are in
museums or in those different places in those exhibits. They're
(41:07):
never the actual bone where you can go and do
some DNA testing. And that to me is a telltale
sign of it not being genuine. But does that change
my opinion on the ancient asnaut theory. Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
You know, it's just like the other areas of the
paranormal when it comes to hoaxes, fakes, lack of evidence
or created evidence to try and pull the wool over
the eyes of the unsuspecting Bigfoot. For example, all we
have are these casts. There's no evidence whatsoever that can
be taken to a lab for DNA analysis. There's never
(41:45):
been a cadaver found of a bigfoot. The same thing
goes for the Lockness monster, and so on and so forth. Right,
you know, I always say, Georgio, that the Internet is
the largest septic tank ever created by mankind.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh the Internet. I cannot even tell you how much
I agree with that statement. It is frightening. Nobody everybody
checks their brain at the door the moment they turn
on that machine. I mean, it is wild. I mean
I would be embarrassed to, uh, you know, volunteer some
(42:25):
of the thoughts that people post on Facebook. And not
just that they post it, but it's it's it's a
it's just a knee jerk reaction. Nobody turns on their
brain anymore before they talk. And that is really disconcerting,
highly fascinating and amusing and humorous, but at the same time,
it's it's it's horrifying.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
And and look what we're doing with our kids in school,
giving them all this technology instead of the old way
of communicating by talking to the person and understanding. Georgio,
stand by, good friend. You and I have to take
our final break. We'll be back in about four minutes
from now. Explanation, don't forget Contact in the Desert ninth
to eleventh of August www dot contact inthdesert dot net.
(43:10):
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Explanation. Contacting the Desert August the ninth to eleventh. It
is going to be the place to be on this
planet and probably throughout the entire Solar System. Their website
is www dot Contact in the Desert dot net. Once again,
it's August ninth through eleventh, that's a Friday Saturday Sunday.
(47:20):
The Who's Who in Ufology, Alien Abductions, New Age are
going to be there once again. Www. Dot Contact in
the Desert dot net is the website. There are still
a few tickets available. As soon as I go to
my commercial break with the news at the top of
the hour, go to your computer, get those tickets and
(47:43):
you'll have the opportunity of meeting some of the greatest
people that we've had here on this show, as well
as another great person that we've had on the show,
Georgio Sukolas, who's with us tonight from Ancient Aliens on
History Channel, and Buddy, thanks very much for joining us
continued success. I love your show. It is, in my opinion,
(48:04):
the benchmark on what these other wacko shows should be
looking at and saying, we want to be more like this.
Get rid of the sensationalism, get rid of the special effects,
get rid of the night shot, get back down to basic,
and you and your crew do a fantastic job.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I appreciate the words, Rob, that's that's truly nice of you.
And you know, Promeses Entertainment, especially Kevin Burns, he's the
executive producer. He's doing a really fantastic job at you know,
just presenting, presenting the sides and raising the questions because
you know, except for a few people on there, you know,
(48:45):
there's only a few that say that that is how
it was. Everybody else raises questions. And since when is
raising questions? Since when has that become a problem?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
You know, raising a question is only a problem if
you have if you're hiding the truth and the answers right,
you know, and the truth is out there. I love that.
I love that saying you have to keep looking for
it until you find it and don't take someone else's
word for it. Find the truth out yourself, like you
(49:19):
and I were talking about, going to the libraries, going
to the sites, doing the footwork, doing the gumshoe work yourself. Georgio,
you and I have to say so long for tonight.
I wish you continued success, have a great time at
the Contact in the Desert, and we'll look forward to
the next time you join us back here home here
in the ex.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Zone sounds great. Thank you very much, Rob for having me.
It was a great.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Pleasure, my great pleasure, and regards to you and the
cast and crew of your great show, Ancient Aliens ex Oonation.
Georgiosuklass has been my special guest.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Here.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Here are your other websites again. For information on Contact
in the Desert ww dot Contact in the Desert dot net.
That's www dot Contact in the Desert dot net. Now
for more information on Georgio www dot Legendary Times Books
(50:15):
dot com. That's www dot Legendary Times Books dot com,
or you can go to Legendarytimes dot com. A great
guy and I love his show. It's one of the
very few TV shows I watch other than the news channels.
I'll be back on the other side of this commercial
break with the news as we continue here in the
X one from our studios in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. My
(50:37):
name is Rob McConnell. Don't Go Away.
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