September 11, 2025 • 57 mins
The assassination of President Kennedy is known as the acrime of the century. It is one of the greatest mysteries of all time. What could one man do to find the truth? You will be surprised by the answer. Jim Koepke interviewed dozens of people from the Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon era, including Directors of the CIA, Intelligence Operatives, Organized Crime Figures, and Military Officers. Koepkeas research even led him to the Watergate figure known as aDeep Throat.a The information Koepke found is stunning and will encourage the reader to give considerable thought to these historical events.
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twenty XON Nation. It's it's a tradition here in the
X Zone for you listeners who have listened to us
over the past thirty years to know that we talk
about the jfk assassination this time of year. You know,
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it happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, and
it was shortly after noon on that day President John F.
Kennedy was assassinated as you rode in a motorcade through
the Daily Plaza in downtown Dallas, Texas. Well, joining me
now to talk about this is the author of Chasing Ghosts,
my research into the Kennedy assassination, and Jim Kefp is
(02:05):
our special guest. And Jim is a he's a researcher
into the assassination of JFK. And Jim welcome back to
the xcell and great have you with us again.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Thank you, Rob, it's sure good to be here. Good
talking to you again.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Good talking to you too, my friend. Well, how did
you get involved in researching in the JFK assassination and
subsequently you're writing your book.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, you know, this was probably in the nineteen nineties,
twenty twenty five years ago. I had a real stressful job.
I've worked in mental health throughout my career, and I
was looking for a hobby, and I, you know, I
looked into a lot of things. I you know, I
can't sing, I can't dance, don't want a knit and
I had always heard so much about the Kennedy assassination.
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So I thought, well, you know, that would be an
interesting hobby for a few months anyway, Sure, and so
I started doing my own research. And like I said,
it's been more than than twenty years, but you know,
I when I first started, I was more than willing
to accept the government conclusions that Oswald Lee Harvey Oswald
was the lone assassin. You know, the more I looked
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into it, though, more I found out how ridiculous that was.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
What were the points where you came to the conclusion
that this is ridiculous? Come on, what are you guys
talking about? What kind of bill of sale are you
trying to sell us here? What are you trying to
sell the American public?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What was it? Jim?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, it's there's so many things. The first thing really
was reading the Warren Commission reports. It is what his
critics say it is. It's very poorly written, there's no index,
and they seem to go back and forth, and their
conclusion is that Oswald had no motive to kill Kennedy.
And you know, the whole thing with doing a murder
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investigation is finding out the motive, and they admit right
up front that he had no motive. So that just
didn't make any s sense to me.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Jim, do you believe that the jfk assassination was a conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, it really had to be, because, you know,
one of the other things I looked into is I
found out that President Gerald Ford, who was on the
Warrant Commission, admitted in the late nineteen seventies that he
actually changed the autopsy evidence in order to make it
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look like a single bullet hit Kennedy and Conley. I mean, really,
he actually admitted he had to change the autopsy evidence.
So right then and there, to me, that that proves
that the Warrent Commission was fiction.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
If gerald Ford said that he actually, you know, made
these changes, how come this wasn't brought to light and
the entire Warren Commission was put under strict scrutiny, as
well as the arrest or removal of certain members, including
Gerald Ford.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, the media has always seemed to be complicit
in this cover up. There was plenty of information back
in the nineteen sixties, but the media kind of put
a lid on any you know, questions about it, all
the different things that just didn't make any sense. The
media was not willing to look into it. They just
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had no curiosity at all. They just wanted to accept
the conclusions and put the whole matter to rest. But
so much of it was so bizarre that people kept
asking questions and asking questions. And I think what really
did it was in the nineteen seventies when the Zapruda
film was released, and it was pretty clear then that
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Kennedy's head snapped backwards when he was killed, not forwards
like we were told for many years.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Why do you think that Kennedy was assassinated, Jim?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think there were multiple reasons. What I found is that,
and I had no idea about this until I did
a lot of research. Lyndon Johnson was in a lot
of trouble. He was certainly going to be dropped from
the ticket in nineteen sixty four. Kennedy had confided that
in a few people, and they all came up with
the same story that asked Kennedy was going to drop
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Johnson at the same time, Johnson was in serious legal trouble.
I found that there had been a grand jury investigation
regarding Lyndon Johnson's crooked background, and he had been cheating
the federal government out of different contracts. And you know,
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I could not believe this when I first heard it,
but there was grand jury testimony that Johnson had given
authorization for murders for people who were investigating his crooked
business dealings.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Jim, how can this go How can this go on?
You know, without the public finding out? My good, heavens,
Look what's happening with former President Trump? You know, he's
under the microscope. He's getting grand juried and he's also
getting charged. How come this didn't happen in the days
of Lyndon B. Johnson?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You know? All I can say is that the media
was in bed with the powers that be and they
did not want to investigate this. They would if anyone
questioned the Warrant Commission report, they would be publicly ridiculed,
they would be humiliated, and if nothing else, they would
be ignored.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
All right, Let's go back to Lee Harvey Oswell for
a second. Was he a patsy? Was he part of
this conspiracy or was he just an innocent bystander.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I think he was a patsy. He had pulled the
police officers after he was arrested that he was a patsy.
He had some involvement, But I just can't believe that
anyone would trust him with this complicated, this complex set
up for a murder. I think he was used. I
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think they needed someone as a patsy. Now we know
that he was not a very good shot, and if
I'm going to involve him in a conspiracy to kill
the president, I'm not going to put a rifle in
his hands because I don't think he can make the shot.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
But wasn't he wasn't he a trained marksman according to
the report, So I remember reading the way back then.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, yes, he was in the Marine Corps and he
did fail his first marksman exam. He wasn't a good
enough shot to pass it now, so he went underwent
some additional training and then he was able to pass
it and he became an average shot, was his classification.
But you know, I communicated with a person who knew
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him when he lived in Russia, someone the Warrant Commission
said was his best friend while he was in Russia,
doctor Earn Tita Vets. And Tita Vets told me that
he went hunting with Oswald one time and they had shotguns,
and he said, even with a shotgun, Oswald couldn't hit anything.
At the end of the day, Oswald had not bagged
(09:13):
a single bird.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
So he was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Certainly not impressed with Oswald's ability to shoot.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
So who, in your opinion killed JFK. Was it the
CIA or was it the mob or was it LBJ?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well? I think LBJ might have been approached by people
in the CIA who hated Kennedy, and the mob may
have been used to do some of the support work,
but it seems to have generally been created by the CIA.
I think LBJ may have been approached and asked if
he would assist in the cover up, because you know,
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if you're going to do something like this, if you
found out about it, you'll be hung. You know, if
you if you're found out that you have murdered the
president of the United States, that's treason, you would be hung.
They would need Linda Johnson. Nobody else could guarantee you
cover up but the new president of the United States,
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so they very much needed Linda Johnson on their side.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Was Lee Harvey Oswald a member of the CIA.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, the evidence indicates that he had a CIA file,
but when that information was requested by the Congress, the
file folder they presented was empty. So there's something really
funny going on there.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Do you think it was taken away the accident. I'm
sorry the papers within the file were not brought to
Congress under national security.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, I'm sure that any relevant information was destroyed. You know,
people talk about opening up the file. There's, you know,
still some files from the Warrant Commission. I seriously doubt
that there's anything relevant left in those those files. I think,
you know, anything that would be incriminating has been gone
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through and destroyed.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I don't think there's anyone listening tonight on Classic twelve
twenty Jim who you know who was born in the
fifties would not remember where they were when they found
out that President John F. Kennedy had been assassinated. Jim,
where were you when you heard the story that JFK
had been assassinated?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, you know, I was in fourth grade and I
had just a wonderful teacher, but she was always you know,
she's very nice, but very firm, always in control. One day,
right after lunch, she came into the room and she
was crying, and I just can't tell you the effect
that had on us kids to see somebody who you know,
(11:55):
she was always super in control of her emotions and
she was just crying. We're like, what this like? The
world ended, and she said the president had been shot.
And you know, like anybody else who was alive back then,
I will never forget, forget that moment.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
When we look throughout history, and you know, over the
years since the assassination of JFK, it seems that there's
been another nefarious plots that have taken place, but the
JFK assassination stands out amongst most. Why do you think
that is, Jim.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, I think because they had to involve a lot
of people in this in order to make this conspiracy work.
But so many people, and I'm sure you've heard this,
so many people have mysteriously died mysteriously, usually violently killed
a top official. And I think it was the FBI
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was went out into the woods hunting and was shot
and killed. People all the time just wind up mysteriously
dying in this. That's how to keep a lid on it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Jim Kepke is our very special guest to this hour exponation.
He is the guest of Chasing Ghost And if you'd
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Wilcoom to the X Zone, a place where fact is
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Speaker 8 (15:09):
At the airport in Dallas and throughout the streets of Dallas,
the Dallas Police had been augmented by some four hundred
policemen called in on their day off because there were
some fears and concerns in Dallas that there might be
demonstrations at least that could embarrass the president, because it
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was only on October the twenty fourth, that our ambassador
to the United Nations, ADLEYE. Stevenson, was assaulted in Dallas,
leaving a dinner meeting there. From Dallas, Texas, the flash apparently.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Official President Kennedy died at one pm Central Standard time
two o'clock Eastern Standard time, some thirty eight minutes ago.
Vice President and Johnson has left the hospital in Dallas,
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but we do not know to where he has proceeded.
Presumably he will be taking the oath of office shortly
and become the thirty sixth President of the United States.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Cold late night, so long ago, when arms not so strong.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know, told me never.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Seen us so blue.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So n see, we've seen each other in the dream.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Lacking you look.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Back you me yeah, I said, with a smile, And
let's get up. John them a magic.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
This is the excellent I Amerald McConnell, and you're listening
to us on your hometown radio, Plastic twelve twenty. My
guess this hour is Jim Copy and we're talking about
the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November the
twenty second in nineteen sixty three. It was shortly after
noon on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, when President
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John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he rode in a
motorcade through Daily Park Plaza in Dallas, Texas. By the
fall of nineteen sixty three, President John F. Kennedy and
his political advisors were preparing for the next presidential election campaign.
Although he had not formally announced his candidacy, it was
clear that President Kennedy was going to run and seemed
(17:55):
confident about his chances for re election. At the end
of September, the presiden traveled west speaking in nine different
states in less than a week.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
The trip was meant to put.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
A spotlight on natural resources and conservation efforts, but JFK
also used it to sound out other themes such as education,
national security, and world peace for his run in nineteen
sixty four. In this edition of the X Zone, we're
using the way back machine going back to November the
twenty second, nineteen sixty three. I guess Jim Coppy and Jim,
(18:27):
thanks very much for joining us. It was a pleasure
talking to you. In your opinion, okay, millions of people
watched in horror as President Kennedy was assassinated or shot.
At the time, you know, we did not know that
he was dead. And as we heard in the clip
that I played just prior to coming back to you, Jim,
(18:48):
was Walter Cronkite, you know, who was announcing the death
of President Kennedy. We saw Lee Harvey Oswell also get
shot days later by Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby was a
small time thug who liked to tout his friendship with
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several members of the Dallas Police Force. In your opinion, Jim,
who was Jack Ruby and what was his part in
this horrific event?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, like you said Rob he was a small time thug,
but he did have connections with the Chicago Mob. And
you know, it just seems to me clearly he was
told to go and take care of Oswald. And when
the Mob tells you to do something, you do it.
There's just no options, you have no choices. I very
(19:41):
much doubt he wanted to do it. But again, when
the Mob says do something, he knew we had to
do it.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Why would the mob want President John F. Kennedy dead?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, you know that's a very good question. We know
at the mob chieftains, the Guacana family in Chicago, Carlos
Marcello down in New Orleans, they all hated Kennedy because
jfk had made Bobby Kennedy his brother, the Attorney General.
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And Bobby Kennedy was clearly destroying the mafia. He was
going after them with a fierceness that they had never
experienced before, and he was being very successful in destroying them. Now,
an FBI informant had quoted Carlos Marcello, who's the New
Orleans mafia, had as saying he was going to take
care of Bobby by getting rid of Jack. And you
(20:41):
know that that really makes sense. I mean, that's what
you would have to do if he had gone after Bobby, Well,
JFK would have, you know, continued destroying the mob. But
if you get rid of the president, then you control
the attorney general. Because we know that Bobby Kennedy's knew boss,
Linda Johnson, hated him. The two did not get along,
(21:05):
you know.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
It seems that there was a lot of friction between
Kennedy and LBJ. So why did Kennedy, you know, take
LBJ on as his running mate?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Well, purely politics. He needed Texas, he needed the elector
of w Oltston, Texas. And if you read the history
behind that, you could see that Kennedy had strong reservations
about taking on Linda Johnson. He really didn't want him,
but his advisors at the time told him it was
a smart thing to do politically.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Kennedy's secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, wrote an autobiography about that, and
she seems like a very honest person. I don't think
she's the kind of person who would make things up,
and she was very straightforward in that book. She wrote
that Kennedy really despised Linda Johnson, did not think much
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of him at all, and was certainly thinking of well,
for sure getting rid of Johnson in nineteen sixty four,
not putting him back on the ticket.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Who do you think who do you think Kennedy would
have put on the ticket once Johnson was off?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
No, I'm not sure. I've heard rumors. Different people have
different opinions, but I think Kennedy was of the mind
that anybody, anybody but Johnson, would be better.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Was there a.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I understand that the Warren Commission also did the investigation
into the Martin Luther King assassination.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, that was part of the called that Congressional what
was it the House Committee on Assassinations?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Oh, I'm sorry, Jim. Was that the House Select Committee
on Assassinations?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yes, yes, and we know that that never I don't
believe it was ever resolved. Prominently, the family of Martin
Luther King did sue the government for the murder civilly
I think it was, and they were successful. The jury
did find that King was murdered as a result of
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conspiracy that the government was involved in. Really, the only
person who has ever brought anyone to trial in the
Kennedy case was Jim Garrison in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Jim, is it true that there was an FBI flash
that was sent to Dallas concerning the assassination?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
There was, there was a warning scent just prior to
the assassination. Nobody seems to be able to trace who
that came from or where that came from, but something
has definitely come out. Now we know that in Miami,
the FBI had a spy or mole working with some people,
(23:58):
and I think it was organized. I'm in big business,
and they were talking about attempted assassination. But as to
where that memo came came from in the FBI, I've
never been able to determine myself by anything, and I
don't think anyone knows. But somebody obviously knew that something
was terribly wrong and tried to do what they could to,
(24:20):
you know, notify the powers that be, but it was ignored.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
All right, Let's let's go back a little bit. We
just briefly talked.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
About the Superator film.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Tell our audience.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
About the super the Superorter.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Wow Supporter film and its relevance in debunking the the no,
not really debunking, but questioning the Warren Commission's findings.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well, you know, Rob thought that Zapruder film. We wouldn't
be here today because we would still I think the
entire population would still accept that the Aren't commissioned report
was correct, that Kennedy was shot from the back and
his head was thrust forward. And you know, people believe
that turkey of a story for many, many years until
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the Zappruder film was finally released in the nineteen seventies.
And I mean, I remember the first time I saw it,
I'm like, holy cow, we've been lyed to this whole time,
because clearly Kennedy's head was pushed back, and you know,
if someone pushes you, that's the direction you go in.
So clearly he had to have been shot from the
(25:33):
front and that that was the killing shot. That was
a shot that killed him. And without there's a Prouder film,
you know, we would have nothing, nothing to go on.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I've often wondered, Jim, how in the name of heaven
this could have happened.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
With all the work.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
That the CIA as well as other members of the government,
including the military services. They usually infiltrate a city well beforehand.
The intel is always very credible. It's always you know,
(26:13):
sourced out, it's always investigated it's vetted left, right and center.
They've done a pretty good job up until the assassination
of JFK.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What happened, Well, the person who says he was in
charge of providing that kind of military backup was a
gentleman from the Pentagon named Colonel Fletcher Proudy, and he
says surprisingly he was sent out of the country right
before the trip to Dallas, which he thought was odd.
(26:44):
It was also his understanding that the military people who
were who would have been assigned who, as you say,
going to Dallas and check things out, were told to
stand down that day that someone else, we don't know who,
but someone else will be covering it for them this time.
And now that's really odd, and it's quite a coincidence
(27:05):
that they were told to stand down, because, like you say,
that standard procedure involve military in providing coverage for the president.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
When we come back from this shortbreak, Jim, I'd like
to talk to you about the I don't know, the
possibility that the story about the assassination of President JFK
may have been linked to a newspaper prior to the
(27:36):
assassination actually taking place.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
How does that sound?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
All right?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Good?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
All right?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
xCE oll Nation. Our guess this hour is Jim Cocky.
If he is the author of a very fascinating book,
I've had the pledge of reading it. The name of
the book is Chasing Ghosts and it's available at Amazon
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fiction and fiction is reality. Now here's your host, Rob McConnell's.
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Speaker 5 (30:24):
I welcome back to everyone. First of all, i'd like
to say how great it is to be back here
at Saint Catherine's and broadcasting from the place it all
started thirty years ago on twelve twenty. Back then it
was HSC twelve twenty and here we are back in
our beautiful Niagara area. Laura and I are so happy
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to be back here, and I want to thank so
many people for making us feel right back here at
home and special thanks to my good friend John Lott
the Niger Falls review saying Catherine Standards for that great article.
Thanks John, really appreciate it. And to all the people
that I know here at twelve twenty, in you Chuck Lafleur,
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the news director, Pete Dickter, the guy who does a
great drive home show and chief engineer. We've all worked
together over the years as professional broadcasters and I can't
tell you how excited I am to be back here.
And today I was downtown and people actually saw read
the article that John did. I shouldn't sound surprised because
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everybody in Niagara reads the Saint Catherine Standards in the
Niagara Falls review of the story was in both newspapers,
and they were coming up to me on the street
and saying, you're back, You're back. Well, yes I am,
and you know, I'm so happy to be back because
here in Saint Catherine's and Niagara are the greatest people
that I've had the pleasure of meeting over the many years.
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We've done a number of remotes and we're going to
continue because we are now here. On your hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty Monday through Friday at eleven pm Eastern,
Jim Coffey's my very special guest, and we're talking about
the assassination of John F.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
And you know, as crowds of excited people to lined
the streets and waved to the Kennedys, the car turned
onto Main Street at the Daily Plaza at about twelve
thirty PM. As was passing the Texas School Book Depository,
gunfire suddenly reverberated in the plaza.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Well, it struck that.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
At the President's neck and head, and he slumped over
towards Missus Kennedy. The Governor Connolly was also shot in
the back. Now, a lot of controversy. We've talked about
the Zuputer film. We talked about motive, we talked about
the opportunity. We've talked about the connection between the mob, CIA, LBJ.
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We talked about so many things, including how Gerald Ford
rigged the autopsy report. Now, to me, that is inexcusable.
But wasn't Gerald Ford the president who exonerated President Nixon?
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Remember that Watergate?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yes, yes, talk about getting your fingers dirty. My god, Jim.
But something that you and I talked about that I
really think our listeners should know is that apparently a
newspaper story was published before the president was even assassinated.
Tell us about that, Jim.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, what's fascinating is that it seems like the story
was written, like you say, in advance, and they had
so much information about Oswald. Now, we have to keep
in mind this is nineteen sixty three, and today I
can go on the Internet and in a pretty quick
amount of time I can find information about almost anyone.
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But in nineteen sixty three you would have to do
a lot of legwork, make a lot of phone calls,
do a lot of research in order to get background
information about someone no one had ever heard of, like
Lee Harvey Oswald. Yet his newspaper account had his history.
I believe he had information about his trip and his
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time in Russia, all those kinds of things. How did
they instantaneously get that? And you know, it seems like
they even got the story put together before the shooting happened.
How is that possible? I mean, it's clearly it looks
like things were in place, and maybe they jumped the
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gun a little bit too early with inserting that story.
But you know, we found out in the nineteen seventies
from a congressional investigation that the SIA had over three
hundred assets in the media, you know, journalists, some of
whom were nationally known. So they had these people at
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their disposal to use when they want to push a narrative.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Oh wow, it's it's incredible that all this could have
been perpetrated in the United States of America. There were
also reports of other people who were seen around daily
plaza who were in police uniforms. But when the police
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did a a an inventory of where their officers were,
these were not Dallas police officers as well as there
were people who were impersonating Secret Service agents. This had
to be well coordinated will in advance. Was anybody ever
arrested because of their involvement in the Kennedy assassination besides
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Lee Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well, that would be the only person who was arrested,
play Shaw in New Orleans. But no nobody on the
scene at the time. Now, they did stop three they
called them three tramps who were behind the Texas school
book Depository, but they were released, They were interviewed and released.
So no, no one has really ever been brought to
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justice for this part of this. And the interesting thing is,
like you say, there were a number of people who
pretended to be Secret Service agents or were in police uniforms,
and there just has never been any curiosity by anyone
in law enforcement about who those people were. You know,
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where did they come from, what were they doing there?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
You know, Jim, I'm sure you're asked this question many
times when you go out to do public appearances and
give talks on the JFK assassination. Why should anyone care
about who killed President Kennedy here now in this day
and age.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Well, I like for people to. I'm aut history buff,
and I think it's important for people to know their
true history, to know what really happened in order to
understand how we got to this point. We need to know,
you know, what happened in the past, and maybe that
will help us avoid mistakes. Plus that the same organizations
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that put this assassination conspiracy together, I think there's still
an operation. They might have different people in charge, but
there's still an operation. And heaven only knows what they're
up to these days, because I don't think it was,
you know, a one time thing, we're going to kill
the president. No, I think it had emboldened them when
they got away with killing the president. They said, hey,
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you know, we can do pretty much anything we want
and get away with it. I'd like to put a
stop to that. And I think if we, you know,
can start looking at who killed Kennedy, we can start
unraveling what these other organizations have been up to in
the mean time.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Jim, do you think that the people who were responsible
for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy were also
responsible or are also responsible for the assassination of Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That's a great question, you know, there's just something really
odd about the death of Bobby Kennedy. About a month
before he was killed, he mentioned he never should have
said this, but he mentioned if he had, if he
were to hold the office of president, he could find
out who really killed his brother John. And I think
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he never should have said anything like that publicly. Of course,
it's easy to have twenty twenty hindsight, but I think
that might have had something to do with his death.
And more and more people when they look at Bobby
Kennedy and his assassination, there's just something really funny that
happened there. It really doesn't doesn't look right no way.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Jim, do you think that there's evidence out there today
or that is in possession of the government or anyone
else that could actually solve this murder?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I do. I think there are a couple smoking gun
pieces of evidence out there. One of the things I
did during my research this is a little complex, rob,
but I submitted what's known as a foyer or a
Freedom of Information Act request with the FBI for information
related to Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedy assassination. And this
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took several years to get a response from them. And
when I did get a response. I had a huge
stack of papers. It's just unbelievable how many reams of
stuff they sent me, almost all of which was just
junk mail. In the middle of it, though, was a
memo from j Edgar Hoover. This was back in the
nineteen sixties. As it turned out, this memo discussed the
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fact that the FBI had a spy or a mole
in the Soviet KGB who had always, according to the memo,
always given accurate information. This mole said that the KGB,
as you might expect, wanted to know what really happened
in the Kennedy assassination. It didn't look right to them
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the Warrant Commission report, and so when they did their
own investigation, they uncovered, and this is what this official
FBI memal says, they uncovered evidence proving that Linda Johnson
gave authorization for the death of President Kennedy. Now that's
just you know, that just blows the doors off this
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whole issue of who assassinated President Kennedy. I've been trying
for or at least ten fifteen years, ever since I
got this information to work with this the Russian government
to release that evidence because I think everyone needs to
see it, everyone needs to hear it. Apparently, as best
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I can gather, at some point the KGB, somebody in
the Soviet Union was able to wiretap President Johnson. I
have no idea if it was while he was visiting someplace,
or if it was in his car, or whatever it was,
and he apparently incriminates himself. Can you imagine if we
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could get our hands on that tape. I've been to
I've talked to the Russian diplomats at the UN, at
the Russian Embassy in Washington, d C. I've been to
the Russian console in Seattle, and at that level they've
actually been helpful. They seem like they want to help
me get that information released. I've been told there are
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KGB archives, and there are KGB secret archives, and this
information is in the KGB secret archives, and as soon
as it goes up to another level in the Russian government,
I hit a stone wall. I just, you know, no
cooperation whatsoever. They don't want to release that, Jim.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Is it possible that this is just fake news, that
it never did happen, and it was somebody trying to
throw the investigation off by putting in a little bit
of information that the Russians have done their own investigation
and they know who killed President Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Well, you know, Rob, anything is possible. But oh again,
this memo comes from the office of Jared R. Hoover,
and this person had always given accurate information, So I
think at least should be looked at.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
And Jim, hold on, hold on to that thought, Jim,
We've got to take our final break here and dex onation, Jim, Copyes,
are special. I guess we're going to continue talking about this,
Mamma when we return. Wow, I can't believe all this.
This is why this is a place where people dare
to believe and dare to be heard. It's a place
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Rob McConnell and we're coming to you on Hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty here in the ex Zone. I'm Rob
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Speaker 4 (44:20):
Hello, let a little.
Speaker 10 (44:36):
And welcome back.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
This is the X one on your hometown radio twelve twenty.
You can listen to us online at www dot Classic
twelve twenty.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
M.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Jim Copy is my special guests. We were talking about
when we last left the before the commercial break, about
the the memo that Jim received in a uh in
reams and Dreams and Dreams of Papers from a foyer.
That's a Freedom of Information Act request in the United
States on information pertaining to former President l Lyndon B.
Speaker 10 (45:14):
Johnson. Jim, what what what?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
What did you feel like when you saw this information
in print in your hands? Sent to you by the
United States government written.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I could have fallen off my chair around when I
read it. I mean this again, this this is an
official document from the FBI, from the United States government.
This isn't something anyone made up. And I haven't told
that I was have. I was the first person to
discover this document in the last couple of years. Other
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people have have discovered this information too, so it's it's
out there, but nobody seems to know what to do
about it. I mean, like I said, I've been trying
for more than ten years to work with the Russian government.
I've gotten some pretty tourist responses from them. It's really
hard to communicate with them. It can take months to
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send a letter to Moscow and it can take months
to get it in, you know, a response from them.
But basically they've told me the same thing over and over,
which is, we don't want to talk to you about this,
so but I keep trying.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, you know, before we went to the break, I
also asked you the possibility of this being fake news.
But like you said, you've got it in print. It
came from the government in reams of paper requested by
you in a Foya with this information, Jim, you've you know,
it's in your book and listeners can get a copy
of your book at Amazon.
Speaker 10 (46:51):
It's called Chasing Ghosts.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Have you ever feared for your life or that your
life was in danger because of the digging that you're
doing into into this case, a case that many want forgotten,
and yet so many deserve to have the answers.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Well. I have been threatened a few times by people
who know how to threaten. I actually was able to
interview a former CIA director, Richard Helms, and you know,
I discussed all this information with him, and he told me,
I believe his exact words were, you need to stop
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this investigation right now. Do you understand what I'm telling you?
And I took that as a pretty thinly veiled threat.
And again, if Oswald was the lone assassin, why would
a CIA director care what I was doing with my
spare time. So that was worrisome. And you know the
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other thing is with this information we were talking about
that the Russian government has, if I ever were to
get that, I would immediately put it online, immediately share
with news organizations because holding a bit of information like that,
my life wouldn't be worth a nickel anymore, if you know,
if I'm the only person who holds it, so I
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would immediately share it because people deserve to know.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Excellanation. Jim Coffey is our guest. He's the author of
Chasing Ghost. And you know, Jim has been researching the
Kennedy assassination for more than twenty years. His work even
has been reviewed by Oliver Stone, and apparently he was
very impressed by your work.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
He had some very nice things to say about it. Yeah,
he thought it was very enlightening and very thorough. And
you know, I just gave a presentation a week or
so ago and one of the people in the audience
was a thirty year homicide veteran. He was a detective
and homicide and he came up to me afterwards and
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he told me I had done a great job investigating this,
you know, very tenacious, very thorough. So yeah, I've gotten
some nice compliments from people, Jim.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Is it possible that the Warren Commission has suppressed evidence?
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Oh? I think so absolutely, But I think that's actually
pretty well known if you look at it. They did
not want to follow certain leads that would take people
to the truth they suppressed those leads they tried to
focus on really just cherry pick information that would incriminate
Lee Harvey Oswald and ignore everything else. That their investigation
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was really a joke. I can't believe anybody would really
defend the Warren Commission as being a legitimate investigation.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
Let me ask you this, Jim, let us say, getting
back into the X zone time machine, that we went
back to the days of the Warren Commission, and you,
Jim Copy, were in charge of it, how differently would
you have run the Warren Commission, or as it would
have been called, the Coppy Commission.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Well, the first thing I would have done is hire
some professional experienced homicide investigators, people who had you know,
successfully prosecuted murder investigations. You know, so people who work
for police departments or maybe people in the FBI, and
you know, just give them free reiin, go out there
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and find out what really happened. And this is, you know,
when the case is still warm. Now it's a pretty
cold trail. But back then I think we would have
we would have found out in a very short order
if we had professional investigators who wanted to know the truth.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
But why wouldn't the Warrant Commission use their resources, the
top you know, top federal investigators in the United States.
Why didn't they just do that? Why didn't they not
let the investigation proceed as a regular like you say, homicide,
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
It's it seems pretty clear that they wanted to cover
it up for whatever reason. And now remember the person
that Linda Johnson put in charge of this was Alan Dallas,
who John Kennedy had fired. So why would you put
someone in charge, you know, that had been fired for
screwing up the Bay of Pigs invasion. So the whole
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thing just stunk from the very get goal. And yet
there were some people on the Warrant Commission report who
were coerced into signing it because they did not agree
with what the conclusions were.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
Jim must fast forward to twenty twenty three. How different
do you think the investigation into the assassination of President
Kennedy would have been conducted if it would have been
conducted today.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Well, there would be so much more open sources of
information with the Internet. When someone had a suspicion or
someone had a lead, they would you know, post it
on the Internet and they would get a lot of
interest millions of people, and it'd be very hard for
the media to shut down and control all the people
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are just because you know, that's one of the good
things about the Internet is you just can't shut people down.
You can't control the flow of information like you could
back in nineteen sixty three when you really only had
three news networks.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
When you were writing your book, Jim and doing the research,
did you work with any other investigators on the case.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
I'm not really no, No, I kind of did my
own thing. It seemed like most investigators they you know,
they just cherry pick information to support their preconceived theory,
and I wanted to just find out what was really happening,
so I, you know, I was open to any and.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Everything besides the memo that we've been talking about that
you received from the folio. Was there any other part
of the investigation where this where the hair on the
back of your neck just stood up and you said,
holy cow, how could this have been missed?
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Well? There is, And I'm not trying to be mysterious here,
but I'm promised not to reveal people's identities. I actually
spoke with somebody who worked in the Nixon Whitehouse. Now,
Rob do you remember back in the day there was
mysterious eighteen minutes of audio tape that was deleted.
Speaker 5 (53:27):
Oh, I sure do.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Yeah, Well, this was a surprise to me, but he
told me that there were automatic backups of all those
tapes made and that he had possession of that at
one time, and that eighteen minutes of tape Nixon is
discussing the conspiracy that killed John F. Kennedy, and that's
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why they deleted the eighteen minutes. But there's a backup
of it, and somebody still has possession of it, and
I've been I've been trying to get person to confirm
or deny that, and so far they haven't denied it,
which makes me think they really do have that tape.
Can you imagine if we could get access to the
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audio tape what that would mean to hear a President
Richard Nixon giving detailed information about the conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
But that all makes sense if and you know after
learning that Gerald Ford, you know, doctored.
Speaker 10 (54:29):
Up the the.
Speaker 5 (54:31):
The evidence, and that Gerald Ford was the president or
the vice president under Nixon, who when President Nixon was
booted out impeached. Goodbye, yes, salieu A Revoir, get the
hell out of the White House. You know it's it
was it was Ford that exonerated him, so you know
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that it does. You know there's something here that just
hasn't been fully discovered disclosed, and I think if anybody
can do it, Jim, it's you.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
I'm trying, Robin. I'm going to keep at it.
Speaker 5 (55:08):
Jim. I've got about one minute left. What are your
final thoughts for the excell Nation tonight?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
My final thoughts would be, just, in my opinion, to
tell people don't believe anything you hear in the main
street media. I mean that's not to say everything they
say is wrong, but just try and understand. Are they
trying to push a narrative here? Are they trying to
control your thinking? Are they giving you the facts or
are they telling you what to think? I just I
think a healthy mistrust of the powers that be is
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a good thing.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
Jim. Let our listeners know where they can get a
copy of your book, Chasing Ghosts.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
It's on Amazon dot com. Jim.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
I want to thank you ever so much for joining
us and do me a favorite, Jim, if you get
any more information about the Kennedy case, or if you
finally do get something from the Russian government that you
want to black.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
Share with the world to protect yourself. Give me a call.
Speaker 10 (56:05):
We'll get you right on.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
You got it, buddy.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
It's been a nice talking to you, Jim. Regards to
your family and thanks so much for being here with
us in the Xzone on your hometown radio twelve twenty.
Thanks Rob, Take care, Jim x Oonation. Jim Coffey has
been our guest tonight and I've had the pleasure of
knowing Jim for a number of years. He's a great investigator.
He's also a great author. He's the author of Chasing Ghost,
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my research into the Kennedy assassination. I'll be back tomorrow
night here in the x Zone with as we continue
our investigation into the world of paranormal and the science
of parapsychology. So for tonight x Oonation, I want to
thank everyone for listening. You can always send me an
email to x Zone at Xonerradio TV dot com. To
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my senior producer and wife, thank.
Speaker 10 (56:54):
You, sweetheart for all your hard work.
Speaker 5 (56:56):
Craig West here at the x Zone Broadcast Network Master Control.
Oh thanks Craig, and I'll be back tomorrow night, as
once again we search for the truth because this is
a place where people dare to believe and dare to
be heard, as a place where fact is fiction and
fiction is reality. So until tomorrow night, Xzone Nation, please
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Welcome to the xizone, a place where fact is fiction
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Like you always do.
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And welcome back to the exone everyone. I am Rob McConnell,
and we're coming to right here on your hometown Radio
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X Zone comes to you Monday through Friday at eleven
pm Eastern right here on your hometown Radio Classic twelve
twenty XON Nation. It's it's a tradition here in the
X Zone for you listeners who have listened to us
over the past thirty years to know that we talk
about the jfk assassination this time of year. You know,
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it happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, and
it was shortly after noon on that day President John F.
Kennedy was assassinated as you rode in a motorcade through
the Daily Plaza in downtown Dallas, Texas. Well, joining me
now to talk about this is the author of Chasing Ghosts,
my research into the Kennedy assassination, and Jim Kefp is
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our special guest. And Jim is a he's a researcher
into the assassination of JFK. And Jim welcome back to
the xcell and great have you with us again.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Thank you, Rob, it's sure good to be here. Good
talking to you again.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Good talking to you too, my friend. Well, how did
you get involved in researching in the JFK assassination and
subsequently you're writing your book.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, you know, this was probably in the nineteen nineties,
twenty twenty five years ago. I had a real stressful job.
I've worked in mental health throughout my career, and I
was looking for a hobby, and I, you know, I
looked into a lot of things. I you know, I
can't sing, I can't dance, don't want a knit and
I had always heard so much about the Kennedy assassination.
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So I thought, well, you know, that would be an
interesting hobby for a few months anyway, Sure, and so
I started doing my own research. And like I said,
it's been more than than twenty years, but you know,
I when I first started, I was more than willing
to accept the government conclusions that Oswald Lee Harvey Oswald
was the lone assassin. You know, the more I looked
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into it, though, more I found out how ridiculous that was.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
What were the points where you came to the conclusion
that this is ridiculous? Come on, what are you guys
talking about? What kind of bill of sale are you
trying to sell us here? What are you trying to
sell the American public?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What was it? Jim?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, it's there's so many things. The first thing really
was reading the Warren Commission reports. It is what his
critics say it is. It's very poorly written, there's no index,
and they seem to go back and forth, and their
conclusion is that Oswald had no motive to kill Kennedy.
And you know, the whole thing with doing a murder
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investigation is finding out the motive, and they admit right
up front that he had no motive. So that just
didn't make any s sense to me.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Jim, do you believe that the jfk assassination was a conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, it really had to be, because, you know,
one of the other things I looked into is I
found out that President Gerald Ford, who was on the
Warrant Commission, admitted in the late nineteen seventies that he
actually changed the autopsy evidence in order to make it
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look like a single bullet hit Kennedy and Conley. I mean, really,
he actually admitted he had to change the autopsy evidence.
So right then and there, to me, that that proves
that the Warrent Commission was fiction.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
If gerald Ford said that he actually, you know, made
these changes, how come this wasn't brought to light and
the entire Warren Commission was put under strict scrutiny, as
well as the arrest or removal of certain members, including
Gerald Ford.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, the media has always seemed to be complicit
in this cover up. There was plenty of information back
in the nineteen sixties, but the media kind of put
a lid on any you know, questions about it, all
the different things that just didn't make any sense. The
media was not willing to look into it. They just
(05:21):
had no curiosity at all. They just wanted to accept
the conclusions and put the whole matter to rest. But
so much of it was so bizarre that people kept
asking questions and asking questions. And I think what really
did it was in the nineteen seventies when the Zapruda
film was released, and it was pretty clear then that
(05:44):
Kennedy's head snapped backwards when he was killed, not forwards
like we were told for many years.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Why do you think that Kennedy was assassinated, Jim?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think there were multiple reasons. What I found is that,
and I had no idea about this until I did
a lot of research. Lyndon Johnson was in a lot
of trouble. He was certainly going to be dropped from
the ticket in nineteen sixty four. Kennedy had confided that
in a few people, and they all came up with
the same story that asked Kennedy was going to drop
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Johnson at the same time, Johnson was in serious legal trouble.
I found that there had been a grand jury investigation
regarding Lyndon Johnson's crooked background, and he had been cheating
the federal government out of different contracts. And you know,
(06:39):
I could not believe this when I first heard it,
but there was grand jury testimony that Johnson had given
authorization for murders for people who were investigating his crooked
business dealings.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Jim, how can this go How can this go on?
You know, without the public finding out? My good, heavens,
Look what's happening with former President Trump? You know, he's
under the microscope. He's getting grand juried and he's also
getting charged. How come this didn't happen in the days
of Lyndon B. Johnson?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You know? All I can say is that the media
was in bed with the powers that be and they
did not want to investigate this. They would if anyone
questioned the Warrant Commission report, they would be publicly ridiculed,
they would be humiliated, and if nothing else, they would
be ignored.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
All right, Let's go back to Lee Harvey Oswell for
a second. Was he a patsy? Was he part of
this conspiracy or was he just an innocent bystander.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I think he was a patsy. He had pulled the
police officers after he was arrested that he was a patsy.
He had some involvement, But I just can't believe that
anyone would trust him with this complicated, this complex set
up for a murder. I think he was used. I
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think they needed someone as a patsy. Now we know
that he was not a very good shot, and if
I'm going to involve him in a conspiracy to kill
the president, I'm not going to put a rifle in
his hands because I don't think he can make the shot.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
But wasn't he wasn't he a trained marksman according to
the report, So I remember reading the way back then.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, yes, he was in the Marine Corps and he
did fail his first marksman exam. He wasn't a good
enough shot to pass it now, so he went underwent
some additional training and then he was able to pass
it and he became an average shot, was his classification.
But you know, I communicated with a person who knew
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him when he lived in Russia, someone the Warrant Commission
said was his best friend while he was in Russia,
doctor Earn Tita Vets. And Tita Vets told me that
he went hunting with Oswald one time and they had shotguns,
and he said, even with a shotgun, Oswald couldn't hit anything.
At the end of the day, Oswald had not bagged
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a single bird.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
So he was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Certainly not impressed with Oswald's ability to shoot.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
So who, in your opinion killed JFK. Was it the
CIA or was it the mob or was it LBJ?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well? I think LBJ might have been approached by people
in the CIA who hated Kennedy, and the mob may
have been used to do some of the support work,
but it seems to have generally been created by the CIA.
I think LBJ may have been approached and asked if
he would assist in the cover up, because you know,
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if you're going to do something like this, if you
found out about it, you'll be hung. You know, if
you if you're found out that you have murdered the
president of the United States, that's treason, you would be hung.
They would need Linda Johnson. Nobody else could guarantee you
cover up but the new president of the United States,
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so they very much needed Linda Johnson on their side.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Was Lee Harvey Oswald a member of the CIA.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, the evidence indicates that he had a CIA file,
but when that information was requested by the Congress, the
file folder they presented was empty. So there's something really
funny going on there.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Do you think it was taken away the accident. I'm
sorry the papers within the file were not brought to
Congress under national security.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, I'm sure that any relevant information was destroyed. You know,
people talk about opening up the file. There's, you know,
still some files from the Warrant Commission. I seriously doubt
that there's anything relevant left in those those files. I think,
you know, anything that would be incriminating has been gone
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through and destroyed.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I don't think there's anyone listening tonight on Classic twelve
twenty Jim who you know who was born in the
fifties would not remember where they were when they found
out that President John F. Kennedy had been assassinated. Jim,
where were you when you heard the story that JFK
had been assassinated?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, you know, I was in fourth grade and I
had just a wonderful teacher, but she was always you know,
she's very nice, but very firm, always in control. One day,
right after lunch, she came into the room and she
was crying, and I just can't tell you the effect
that had on us kids to see somebody who you know,
(11:55):
she was always super in control of her emotions and
she was just crying. We're like, what this like? The
world ended, and she said the president had been shot.
And you know, like anybody else who was alive back then,
I will never forget, forget that moment.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
When we look throughout history, and you know, over the
years since the assassination of JFK, it seems that there's
been another nefarious plots that have taken place, but the
JFK assassination stands out amongst most. Why do you think
that is, Jim.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, I think because they had to involve a lot
of people in this in order to make this conspiracy work.
But so many people, and I'm sure you've heard this,
so many people have mysteriously died mysteriously, usually violently killed
a top official. And I think it was the FBI
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was went out into the woods hunting and was shot
and killed. People all the time just wind up mysteriously
dying in this. That's how to keep a lid on it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
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Speaker 8 (15:09):
At the airport in Dallas and throughout the streets of Dallas,
the Dallas Police had been augmented by some four hundred
policemen called in on their day off because there were
some fears and concerns in Dallas that there might be
demonstrations at least that could embarrass the president, because it
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was only on October the twenty fourth, that our ambassador
to the United Nations, ADLEYE. Stevenson, was assaulted in Dallas,
leaving a dinner meeting there. From Dallas, Texas, the flash apparently.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Official President Kennedy died at one pm Central Standard time
two o'clock Eastern Standard time, some thirty eight minutes ago.
Vice President and Johnson has left the hospital in Dallas,
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but we do not know to where he has proceeded.
Presumably he will be taking the oath of office shortly
and become the thirty sixth President of the United States.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Cold late night, so long ago, when arms not so strong.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know, told me never.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Seen us so blue.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So n see, we've seen each other in the dream.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Lacking you look.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Back you me yeah, I said, with a smile, And
let's get up. John them a magic.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
This is the excellent I Amerald McConnell, and you're listening
to us on your hometown radio, Plastic twelve twenty. My
guess this hour is Jim Copy and we're talking about
the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November the
twenty second in nineteen sixty three. It was shortly after
noon on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, when President
(17:33):
John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he rode in a
motorcade through Daily Park Plaza in Dallas, Texas. By the
fall of nineteen sixty three, President John F. Kennedy and
his political advisors were preparing for the next presidential election campaign.
Although he had not formally announced his candidacy, it was
clear that President Kennedy was going to run and seemed
(17:55):
confident about his chances for re election. At the end
of September, the presiden traveled west speaking in nine different
states in less than a week.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
The trip was meant to put.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
A spotlight on natural resources and conservation efforts, but JFK
also used it to sound out other themes such as education,
national security, and world peace for his run in nineteen
sixty four. In this edition of the X Zone, we're
using the way back machine going back to November the
twenty second, nineteen sixty three. I guess Jim Coppy and Jim,
(18:27):
thanks very much for joining us. It was a pleasure
talking to you. In your opinion, okay, millions of people
watched in horror as President Kennedy was assassinated or shot.
At the time, you know, we did not know that
he was dead. And as we heard in the clip
that I played just prior to coming back to you, Jim,
(18:48):
was Walter Cronkite, you know, who was announcing the death
of President Kennedy. We saw Lee Harvey Oswell also get
shot days later by Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby was a
small time thug who liked to tout his friendship with
(19:09):
several members of the Dallas Police Force. In your opinion, Jim,
who was Jack Ruby and what was his part in
this horrific event?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, like you said Rob he was a small time thug,
but he did have connections with the Chicago Mob. And
you know, it just seems to me clearly he was
told to go and take care of Oswald. And when
the Mob tells you to do something, you do it.
There's just no options, you have no choices. I very
(19:41):
much doubt he wanted to do it. But again, when
the Mob says do something, he knew we had to
do it.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Why would the mob want President John F. Kennedy dead?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, you know that's a very good question. We know
at the mob chieftains, the Guacana family in Chicago, Carlos
Marcello down in New Orleans, they all hated Kennedy because
jfk had made Bobby Kennedy his brother, the Attorney General.
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And Bobby Kennedy was clearly destroying the mafia. He was
going after them with a fierceness that they had never
experienced before, and he was being very successful in destroying them. Now,
an FBI informant had quoted Carlos Marcello, who's the New
Orleans mafia, had as saying he was going to take
care of Bobby by getting rid of Jack. And you
(20:41):
know that that really makes sense. I mean, that's what
you would have to do if he had gone after Bobby, Well,
JFK would have, you know, continued destroying the mob. But
if you get rid of the president, then you control
the attorney general. Because we know that Bobby Kennedy's knew boss,
Linda Johnson, hated him. The two did not get along,
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you know.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
It seems that there was a lot of friction between
Kennedy and LBJ. So why did Kennedy, you know, take
LBJ on as his running mate?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Well, purely politics. He needed Texas, he needed the elector
of w Oltston, Texas. And if you read the history
behind that, you could see that Kennedy had strong reservations
about taking on Linda Johnson. He really didn't want him,
but his advisors at the time told him it was
a smart thing to do politically.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Kennedy's secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, wrote an autobiography about that, and
she seems like a very honest person. I don't think
she's the kind of person who would make things up,
and she was very straightforward in that book. She wrote
that Kennedy really despised Linda Johnson, did not think much
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of him at all, and was certainly thinking of well,
for sure getting rid of Johnson in nineteen sixty four,
not putting him back on the ticket.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Who do you think who do you think Kennedy would
have put on the ticket once Johnson was off?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
No, I'm not sure. I've heard rumors. Different people have
different opinions, but I think Kennedy was of the mind
that anybody, anybody but Johnson, would be better.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Was there a.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I understand that the Warren Commission also did the investigation
into the Martin Luther King assassination.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, that was part of the called that Congressional what
was it the House Committee on Assassinations?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Oh, I'm sorry, Jim. Was that the House Select Committee
on Assassinations?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yes, yes, and we know that that never I don't
believe it was ever resolved. Prominently, the family of Martin
Luther King did sue the government for the murder civilly
I think it was, and they were successful. The jury
did find that King was murdered as a result of
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conspiracy that the government was involved in. Really, the only
person who has ever brought anyone to trial in the
Kennedy case was Jim Garrison in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Jim, is it true that there was an FBI flash
that was sent to Dallas concerning the assassination?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
There was, there was a warning scent just prior to
the assassination. Nobody seems to be able to trace who
that came from or where that came from, but something
has definitely come out. Now we know that in Miami,
the FBI had a spy or mole working with some people,
(23:58):
and I think it was organized. I'm in big business,
and they were talking about attempted assassination. But as to
where that memo came came from in the FBI, I've
never been able to determine myself by anything, and I
don't think anyone knows. But somebody obviously knew that something
was terribly wrong and tried to do what they could to,
(24:20):
you know, notify the powers that be, but it was ignored.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
All right, Let's let's go back a little bit. We
just briefly talked.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
About the Superator film.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Tell our audience.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
About the super the Superorter.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Wow Supporter film and its relevance in debunking the the no,
not really debunking, but questioning the Warren Commission's findings.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well, you know, Rob thought that Zapruder film. We wouldn't
be here today because we would still I think the
entire population would still accept that the Aren't commissioned report
was correct, that Kennedy was shot from the back and
his head was thrust forward. And you know, people believe
that turkey of a story for many, many years until
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the Zappruder film was finally released in the nineteen seventies.
And I mean, I remember the first time I saw it,
I'm like, holy cow, we've been lyed to this whole time,
because clearly Kennedy's head was pushed back, and you know,
if someone pushes you, that's the direction you go in.
So clearly he had to have been shot from the
(25:33):
front and that that was the killing shot. That was
a shot that killed him. And without there's a Prouder film,
you know, we would have nothing, nothing to go on.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I've often wondered, Jim, how in the name of heaven
this could have happened.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
With all the work.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
That the CIA as well as other members of the government,
including the military services. They usually infiltrate a city well beforehand.
The intel is always very credible. It's always you know,
(26:13):
sourced out, it's always investigated it's vetted left, right and center.
They've done a pretty good job up until the assassination
of JFK.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What happened, Well, the person who says he was in
charge of providing that kind of military backup was a
gentleman from the Pentagon named Colonel Fletcher Proudy, and he
says surprisingly he was sent out of the country right
before the trip to Dallas, which he thought was odd.
(26:44):
It was also his understanding that the military people who
were who would have been assigned who, as you say,
going to Dallas and check things out, were told to
stand down that day that someone else, we don't know who,
but someone else will be covering it for them this time.
And now that's really odd, and it's quite a coincidence
(27:05):
that they were told to stand down, because, like you say,
that standard procedure involve military in providing coverage for the president.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
When we come back from this shortbreak, Jim, I'd like
to talk to you about the I don't know, the
possibility that the story about the assassination of President JFK
may have been linked to a newspaper prior to the
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assassination actually taking place.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
How does that sound?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
All right?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Good?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
All right?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
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Hells you my god, j okay.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I welcome back to everyone. First of all, i'd like
to say how great it is to be back here
at Saint Catherine's and broadcasting from the place it all
started thirty years ago on twelve twenty. Back then it
was HSC twelve twenty and here we are back in
our beautiful Niagara area. Laura and I are so happy
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to be back here, and I want to thank so
many people for making us feel right back here at
home and special thanks to my good friend John Lott
the Niger Falls review saying Catherine Standards for that great article.
Thanks John, really appreciate it. And to all the people
that I know here at twelve twenty, in you Chuck Lafleur,
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the news director, Pete Dickter, the guy who does a
great drive home show and chief engineer. We've all worked
together over the years as professional broadcasters and I can't
tell you how excited I am to be back here.
And today I was downtown and people actually saw read
the article that John did. I shouldn't sound surprised because
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everybody in Niagara reads the Saint Catherine Standards in the
Niagara Falls review of the story was in both newspapers,
and they were coming up to me on the street
and saying, you're back, You're back. Well, yes I am,
and you know, I'm so happy to be back because
here in Saint Catherine's and Niagara are the greatest people
that I've had the pleasure of meeting over the many years.
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We've done a number of remotes and we're going to
continue because we are now here. On your hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty Monday through Friday at eleven pm Eastern,
Jim Coffey's my very special guest, and we're talking about
the assassination of John F.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
And you know, as crowds of excited people to lined
the streets and waved to the Kennedys, the car turned
onto Main Street at the Daily Plaza at about twelve
thirty PM. As was passing the Texas School Book Depository,
gunfire suddenly reverberated in the plaza.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Well, it struck that.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
At the President's neck and head, and he slumped over
towards Missus Kennedy. The Governor Connolly was also shot in
the back. Now, a lot of controversy. We've talked about
the Zuputer film. We talked about motive, we talked about
the opportunity. We've talked about the connection between the mob, CIA, LBJ.
(32:56):
We talked about so many things, including how Gerald Ford
rigged the autopsy report. Now, to me, that is inexcusable.
But wasn't Gerald Ford the president who exonerated President Nixon?
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Remember that Watergate?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yes, yes, talk about getting your fingers dirty. My god, Jim.
But something that you and I talked about that I
really think our listeners should know is that apparently a
newspaper story was published before the president was even assassinated.
Tell us about that, Jim.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, what's fascinating is that it seems like the story
was written, like you say, in advance, and they had
so much information about Oswald. Now, we have to keep
in mind this is nineteen sixty three, and today I
can go on the Internet and in a pretty quick
amount of time I can find information about almost anyone.
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But in nineteen sixty three you would have to do
a lot of legwork, make a lot of phone calls,
do a lot of research in order to get background
information about someone no one had ever heard of, like
Lee Harvey Oswald. Yet his newspaper account had his history.
I believe he had information about his trip and his
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time in Russia, all those kinds of things. How did
they instantaneously get that? And you know, it seems like
they even got the story put together before the shooting happened.
How is that possible? I mean, it's clearly it looks
like things were in place, and maybe they jumped the
(34:42):
gun a little bit too early with inserting that story.
But you know, we found out in the nineteen seventies
from a congressional investigation that the SIA had over three
hundred assets in the media, you know, journalists, some of
whom were nationally known. So they had these people at
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their disposal to use when they want to push a narrative.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Oh wow, it's it's incredible that all this could have
been perpetrated in the United States of America. There were
also reports of other people who were seen around daily
plaza who were in police uniforms. But when the police
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did a a an inventory of where their officers were,
these were not Dallas police officers as well as there
were people who were impersonating Secret Service agents. This had
to be well coordinated will in advance. Was anybody ever
arrested because of their involvement in the Kennedy assassination besides
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Lee Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well, that would be the only person who was arrested,
play Shaw in New Orleans. But no nobody on the
scene at the time. Now, they did stop three they
called them three tramps who were behind the Texas school
book Depository, but they were released, They were interviewed and released.
So no, no one has really ever been brought to
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justice for this part of this. And the interesting thing is,
like you say, there were a number of people who
pretended to be Secret Service agents or were in police uniforms,
and there just has never been any curiosity by anyone
in law enforcement about who those people were. You know,
(36:37):
where did they come from, what were they doing there?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
You know, Jim, I'm sure you're asked this question many
times when you go out to do public appearances and
give talks on the JFK assassination. Why should anyone care
about who killed President Kennedy here now in this day
and age.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Well, I like for people to. I'm aut history buff,
and I think it's important for people to know their
true history, to know what really happened in order to
understand how we got to this point. We need to know,
you know, what happened in the past, and maybe that
will help us avoid mistakes. Plus that the same organizations
(37:22):
that put this assassination conspiracy together, I think there's still
an operation. They might have different people in charge, but
there's still an operation. And heaven only knows what they're
up to these days, because I don't think it was,
you know, a one time thing, we're going to kill
the president. No, I think it had emboldened them when
they got away with killing the president. They said, hey,
(37:43):
you know, we can do pretty much anything we want
and get away with it. I'd like to put a
stop to that. And I think if we, you know,
can start looking at who killed Kennedy, we can start
unraveling what these other organizations have been up to in
the mean time.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Jim, do you think that the people who were responsible
for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy were also
responsible or are also responsible for the assassination of Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That's a great question, you know, there's just something really
odd about the death of Bobby Kennedy. About a month
before he was killed, he mentioned he never should have
said this, but he mentioned if he had, if he
were to hold the office of president, he could find
out who really killed his brother John. And I think
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he never should have said anything like that publicly. Of course,
it's easy to have twenty twenty hindsight, but I think
that might have had something to do with his death.
And more and more people when they look at Bobby
Kennedy and his assassination, there's just something really funny that
happened there. It really doesn't doesn't look right no way.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Jim, do you think that there's evidence out there today
or that is in possession of the government or anyone
else that could actually solve this murder?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I do. I think there are a couple smoking gun
pieces of evidence out there. One of the things I
did during my research this is a little complex, rob,
but I submitted what's known as a foyer or a
Freedom of Information Act request with the FBI for information
related to Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedy assassination. And this
(39:28):
took several years to get a response from them. And
when I did get a response. I had a huge
stack of papers. It's just unbelievable how many reams of
stuff they sent me, almost all of which was just
junk mail. In the middle of it, though, was a
memo from j Edgar Hoover. This was back in the
nineteen sixties. As it turned out, this memo discussed the
(39:52):
fact that the FBI had a spy or a mole
in the Soviet KGB who had always, according to the memo,
always given accurate information. This mole said that the KGB,
as you might expect, wanted to know what really happened
in the Kennedy assassination. It didn't look right to them
(40:12):
the Warrant Commission report, and so when they did their
own investigation, they uncovered, and this is what this official
FBI memal says, they uncovered evidence proving that Linda Johnson
gave authorization for the death of President Kennedy. Now that's
just you know, that just blows the doors off this
(40:33):
whole issue of who assassinated President Kennedy. I've been trying
for or at least ten fifteen years, ever since I
got this information to work with this the Russian government
to release that evidence because I think everyone needs to
see it, everyone needs to hear it. Apparently, as best
(40:56):
I can gather, at some point the KGB, somebody in
the Soviet Union was able to wiretap President Johnson. I
have no idea if it was while he was visiting someplace,
or if it was in his car, or whatever it was,
and he apparently incriminates himself. Can you imagine if we
(41:17):
could get our hands on that tape. I've been to
I've talked to the Russian diplomats at the UN, at
the Russian Embassy in Washington, d C. I've been to
the Russian console in Seattle, and at that level they've
actually been helpful. They seem like they want to help
me get that information released. I've been told there are
(41:38):
KGB archives, and there are KGB secret archives, and this
information is in the KGB secret archives, and as soon
as it goes up to another level in the Russian government,
I hit a stone wall. I just, you know, no
cooperation whatsoever. They don't want to release that, Jim.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Is it possible that this is just fake news, that
it never did happen, and it was somebody trying to
throw the investigation off by putting in a little bit
of information that the Russians have done their own investigation
and they know who killed President Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Well, you know, Rob, anything is possible. But oh again,
this memo comes from the office of Jared R. Hoover,
and this person had always given accurate information, So I
think at least should be looked at.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
And Jim, hold on, hold on to that thought, Jim,
We've got to take our final break here and dex onation, Jim, Copyes,
are special. I guess we're going to continue talking about this,
Mamma when we return. Wow, I can't believe all this.
This is why this is a place where people dare
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(42:55):
Rob McConnell and we're coming to you on Hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty here in the ex Zone. I'm Rob
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Speaker 4 (44:20):
Hello, let a little.
Speaker 10 (44:36):
And welcome back.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
This is the X one on your hometown radio twelve twenty.
You can listen to us online at www dot Classic
twelve twenty.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
M.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Jim Copy is my special guests. We were talking about
when we last left the before the commercial break, about
the the memo that Jim received in a uh in
reams and Dreams and Dreams of Papers from a foyer.
That's a Freedom of Information Act request in the United
States on information pertaining to former President l Lyndon B.
Speaker 10 (45:14):
Johnson. Jim, what what what?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
What did you feel like when you saw this information
in print in your hands? Sent to you by the
United States government written.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I could have fallen off my chair around when I
read it. I mean this again, this this is an
official document from the FBI, from the United States government.
This isn't something anyone made up. And I haven't told
that I was have. I was the first person to
discover this document in the last couple of years. Other
(45:52):
people have have discovered this information too, so it's it's
out there, but nobody seems to know what to do
about it. I mean, like I said, I've been trying
for more than ten years to work with the Russian government.
I've gotten some pretty tourist responses from them. It's really
hard to communicate with them. It can take months to
(46:14):
send a letter to Moscow and it can take months
to get it in, you know, a response from them.
But basically they've told me the same thing over and over,
which is, we don't want to talk to you about this,
so but I keep trying.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, you know, before we went to the break, I
also asked you the possibility of this being fake news.
But like you said, you've got it in print. It
came from the government in reams of paper requested by
you in a Foya with this information, Jim, you've you know,
it's in your book and listeners can get a copy
of your book at Amazon.
Speaker 10 (46:51):
It's called Chasing Ghosts.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Have you ever feared for your life or that your
life was in danger because of the digging that you're
doing into into this case, a case that many want forgotten,
and yet so many deserve to have the answers.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Well. I have been threatened a few times by people
who know how to threaten. I actually was able to
interview a former CIA director, Richard Helms, and you know,
I discussed all this information with him, and he told me,
I believe his exact words were, you need to stop
(47:30):
this investigation right now. Do you understand what I'm telling you?
And I took that as a pretty thinly veiled threat.
And again, if Oswald was the lone assassin, why would
a CIA director care what I was doing with my
spare time. So that was worrisome. And you know the
(47:50):
other thing is with this information we were talking about
that the Russian government has, if I ever were to
get that, I would immediately put it online, immediately share
with news organizations because holding a bit of information like that,
my life wouldn't be worth a nickel anymore, if you know,
if I'm the only person who holds it, so I
(48:11):
would immediately share it because people deserve to know.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Excellanation. Jim Coffey is our guest. He's the author of
Chasing Ghost. And you know, Jim has been researching the
Kennedy assassination for more than twenty years. His work even
has been reviewed by Oliver Stone, and apparently he was
very impressed by your work.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
He had some very nice things to say about it. Yeah,
he thought it was very enlightening and very thorough. And
you know, I just gave a presentation a week or
so ago and one of the people in the audience
was a thirty year homicide veteran. He was a detective
and homicide and he came up to me afterwards and
(48:54):
he told me I had done a great job investigating this,
you know, very tenacious, very thorough. So yeah, I've gotten
some nice compliments from people, Jim.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Is it possible that the Warren Commission has suppressed evidence?
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Oh? I think so absolutely, But I think that's actually
pretty well known if you look at it. They did
not want to follow certain leads that would take people
to the truth they suppressed those leads they tried to
focus on really just cherry pick information that would incriminate
Lee Harvey Oswald and ignore everything else. That their investigation
(49:33):
was really a joke. I can't believe anybody would really
defend the Warren Commission as being a legitimate investigation.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
Let me ask you this, Jim, let us say, getting
back into the X zone time machine, that we went
back to the days of the Warren Commission, and you,
Jim Copy, were in charge of it, how differently would
you have run the Warren Commission, or as it would
have been called, the Coppy Commission.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Well, the first thing I would have done is hire
some professional experienced homicide investigators, people who had you know,
successfully prosecuted murder investigations. You know, so people who work
for police departments or maybe people in the FBI, and
you know, just give them free reiin, go out there
(50:22):
and find out what really happened. And this is, you know,
when the case is still warm. Now it's a pretty
cold trail. But back then I think we would have
we would have found out in a very short order
if we had professional investigators who wanted to know the truth.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
But why wouldn't the Warrant Commission use their resources, the
top you know, top federal investigators in the United States.
Why didn't they just do that? Why didn't they not
let the investigation proceed as a regular like you say, homicide,
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
It's it seems pretty clear that they wanted to cover
it up for whatever reason. And now remember the person
that Linda Johnson put in charge of this was Alan Dallas,
who John Kennedy had fired. So why would you put
someone in charge, you know, that had been fired for
screwing up the Bay of Pigs invasion. So the whole
(51:19):
thing just stunk from the very get goal. And yet
there were some people on the Warrant Commission report who
were coerced into signing it because they did not agree
with what the conclusions were.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
Jim must fast forward to twenty twenty three. How different
do you think the investigation into the assassination of President
Kennedy would have been conducted if it would have been
conducted today.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Well, there would be so much more open sources of
information with the Internet. When someone had a suspicion or
someone had a lead, they would you know, post it
on the Internet and they would get a lot of
interest millions of people, and it'd be very hard for
the media to shut down and control all the people
(52:07):
are just because you know, that's one of the good
things about the Internet is you just can't shut people down.
You can't control the flow of information like you could
back in nineteen sixty three when you really only had
three news networks.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
When you were writing your book, Jim and doing the research,
did you work with any other investigators on the case.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
I'm not really no, No, I kind of did my
own thing. It seemed like most investigators they you know,
they just cherry pick information to support their preconceived theory,
and I wanted to just find out what was really happening,
so I, you know, I was open to any and.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Everything besides the memo that we've been talking about that
you received from the folio. Was there any other part
of the investigation where this where the hair on the
back of your neck just stood up and you said,
holy cow, how could this have been missed?
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Well? There is, And I'm not trying to be mysterious here,
but I'm promised not to reveal people's identities. I actually
spoke with somebody who worked in the Nixon Whitehouse. Now,
Rob do you remember back in the day there was
mysterious eighteen minutes of audio tape that was deleted.
Speaker 5 (53:27):
Oh, I sure do.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Yeah, Well, this was a surprise to me, but he
told me that there were automatic backups of all those
tapes made and that he had possession of that at
one time, and that eighteen minutes of tape Nixon is
discussing the conspiracy that killed John F. Kennedy, and that's
(53:50):
why they deleted the eighteen minutes. But there's a backup
of it, and somebody still has possession of it, and
I've been I've been trying to get person to confirm
or deny that, and so far they haven't denied it,
which makes me think they really do have that tape.
Can you imagine if we could get access to the
(54:11):
audio tape what that would mean to hear a President
Richard Nixon giving detailed information about the conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
But that all makes sense if and you know after
learning that Gerald Ford, you know, doctored.
Speaker 10 (54:29):
Up the the.
Speaker 5 (54:31):
The evidence, and that Gerald Ford was the president or
the vice president under Nixon, who when President Nixon was
booted out impeached. Goodbye, yes, salieu A Revoir, get the
hell out of the White House. You know it's it
was it was Ford that exonerated him, so you know
(54:53):
that it does. You know there's something here that just
hasn't been fully discovered disclosed, and I think if anybody
can do it, Jim, it's you.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
I'm trying, Robin. I'm going to keep at it.
Speaker 5 (55:08):
Jim. I've got about one minute left. What are your
final thoughts for the excell Nation tonight?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
My final thoughts would be, just, in my opinion, to
tell people don't believe anything you hear in the main
street media. I mean that's not to say everything they
say is wrong, but just try and understand. Are they
trying to push a narrative here? Are they trying to
control your thinking? Are they giving you the facts or
are they telling you what to think? I just I
think a healthy mistrust of the powers that be is
(55:37):
a good thing.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
Jim. Let our listeners know where they can get a
copy of your book, Chasing Ghosts.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
It's on Amazon dot com. Jim.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
I want to thank you ever so much for joining
us and do me a favorite, Jim, if you get
any more information about the Kennedy case, or if you
finally do get something from the Russian government that you
want to black.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
Share with the world to protect yourself. Give me a call.
Speaker 10 (56:05):
We'll get you right on.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
You got it, buddy.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
It's been a nice talking to you, Jim. Regards to
your family and thanks so much for being here with
us in the Xzone on your hometown radio twelve twenty.
Thanks Rob, Take care, Jim x Oonation. Jim Coffey has
been our guest tonight and I've had the pleasure of
knowing Jim for a number of years. He's a great investigator.
He's also a great author. He's the author of Chasing Ghost,
(56:30):
my research into the Kennedy assassination. I'll be back tomorrow
night here in the x Zone with as we continue
our investigation into the world of paranormal and the science
of parapsychology. So for tonight x Oonation, I want to
thank everyone for listening. You can always send me an
email to x Zone at Xonerradio TV dot com. To
(56:51):
my senior producer and wife, thank.
Speaker 10 (56:54):
You, sweetheart for all your hard work.
Speaker 5 (56:56):
Craig West here at the x Zone Broadcast Network Master Control.
Oh thanks Craig, and I'll be back tomorrow night, as
once again we search for the truth because this is
a place where people dare to believe and dare to
be heard, as a place where fact is fiction and
fiction is reality. So until tomorrow night, Xzone Nation, please
(57:16):
always remember to keep your eyes to the sky and
your heart to the light. So from our home to yours,
take care, have a nice night, and always always remember
you're listening to the X Zone on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
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