December 8, 2025 • 43 mins
In this captivating episode, Rob McConnell dives into one of America’s most enduring enigmas with special guest Joe Bullard, acclaimed author and Coral Castle researcher. Together, they explore the haunting mystery behind the Coral Castle in Homestead, Florida—a massive limestone structure built single-handedly by the enigmatic Edward Leedskalnin. With no heavy machinery and working under the cover of night, Leedskalnin left behind an architectural marvel that has puzzled scientists, engineers, and historians for decades. Was it lost ancient knowledge, magnetic secrets, or something even more otherworldly? Joe Bullard sheds new light on the legend, sharing chilling theories, historical insights, and first-hand accounts that may bring us closer to understanding how one man defied the laws of physics. Don’t miss this thought-provoking journey into one of the greatest mysteries of the modern world.
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store dot com. My first guest tonight is a Joe
Bullard and we've had the pleasure of having Joe on
many times before, and we're going to be talking about
the Coral Castle in Florida. Joe was born in Florida
in nineteen fifty one. He attended the University of West
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Florida and graduated with a bachelor's degree in journalism In
nineteen seventy four. He found out about the Coral Castle
on the television series called In Search Of in September
of nineteen eighty four. During this time, he was working
at Lake City Community College as a public information director
and professor of newspaper class. Joe spent ten years of
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research at Coral Castle and started writing Waiting for Agnes
in February of nineteen ninety five. It took him five
years to get the story on paper and almost four
years to publish it. We'll also be discussing the Bermuda
Triangle with Joe tonight and Joe Board. Welcome back to
the X Zone. How are you Joe?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Hey, Rob's great man, you sound great. Great to be
back on xxone.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, super having you here, Joe. Now, Joe, I was
wondering if you could let our listeners know where exactly
in Florida the Coral Castle is.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Rob Coral Castle is located about a thirty minute drive.
It's actually south of Miami and it's Homestead in Florida
City where Florida City is where it first built it.
Then he moved it, like we've talked before, one stone
at the time. He moved it to Homestead in about
nineteen thirty six. So when you're down there, You're about
an hour away from the Florida Keys, so you're right
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in the middle between the Florida Keys in Miami is
where Homestead and Florida City are.
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All right, Joe, you and I have to take a
commercial break. We'll be back in two minutes. Joe Bullard
is our very special guest. In this first hour of
Tonight's Xzone. We're going to be talking about the Coral Castle.
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Speaker 3 (08:34):
And welcome back to the excellent everyone. We're talking about
the Coral Castle in Florida this hour. Joe Bullard is
our special guest, and Joe, I was wondering if you
could give our listeners a brief history of the Coral
Castle and when it was moved. Joe, how long did
it take ed to move it?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Okay, the story of coal Castle actually begins in Lot
the nineteen twelve.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Rub Ed was a twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Year old He and his uncle or his grandfather, I'm sorry.
At the time, we're in the tombstone business. And Ed
was twenty six and the girl that he met was
named Agnes Scuffs.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
They had a brief.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Dating type thing and they both just fell in love,
and so they set a date for the wedding, and
the night before the wedding. You got to remember, Agnes
was only sixteen years old and Ed was twenty six,
a little bit older than her. Of course that wasn't
too much in that time zone, that that wasn't too
much for them. But for some reason, she never really
gave it a reason, but she jilted him the night
(09:36):
before their wedding, and it was the only girl he'd
ever loved. Rob He was sickly as a child, never
a big guy. He was like five feet one hundred
pounds and had you know, had really missed a lot
of school for sickness and didn't have a chance to
be around to the kids in date too much. So
when she jilted him, it devastated him. He left Loti
(09:57):
up now Lotvia is one of the Baltic states. You've
got Lithuania and Estonia, and it's just right on.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
The edge of Russia. In World War Two, the Germans
took it over, and then the Russians took it over.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
So Latvia was kicked around, kind of like a soccer ball,
if you will. So Ed was broken hearted, and he said, well,
I got to get out of a Lotvia. And there
was a friend of his that told him, he said,
you know, you might get a job in Canada cutting
timber and Ed said, well, I don't care. I got
to get out of here. So he jumped on a boat.
Rob and I've always been interested. I've never been able
(10:29):
to track down in what part of Canada that he worked,
but he worked in the lumber then Alan and he
sort of built up his help again because he was
working hard. And in nineteen eighteen he started coughing and
having really difficulties breathing, and they told him, they said, look,
you've got to get out of this cold and somewhere warmer.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I had always been told Rob that he took a
boat from Canada. But one of the last times I
was on your show, I got an email from a
guy and he said, you know, I loved your story
and it was all it was all correct, he said,
except for the part where he took a boat. He said,
he did not take a boat because my father saw
him in Jacksonville, Florida, evidently, and they we think he
(11:12):
just crossed I guess not legally, but just wherever he
could cross.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
At that time.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
In nineteen eighteen, Rob he crossed into America walking. And
now this is what's strange. He walked with a divining rod,
you know, like when you're browsing for water. Because the
gentleman said, in Jacksonville, his father was going to work
every day, and his father worked because he was pretty
close to Jacksonville, Florida, and he saw this little man
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walking around with the divining rod, checking the ground as
he walked. So he became curious one day and he
stopped him and he said, sir, He said, what in
the world are you doing? And the little man just
looked at him and he said, when I find it,
I don't know it, and he just kept on walking Rob.
And so the man was like, well, what did that mean?
So for several days he kept following the road where
(12:02):
ed would be and he came back again to him
and he said, Sarah, I don't mean to molest you,
but what are you looking for? And what did you
mean when you find it? And they said. Ed just
smiled and he said, all I can tell you is
when I find it, I'll know it. And he kept
on walking. So this is really a phenomenal thing to me, Rob,
because Ed walked and he didn't take a boat. From
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what I can understand, because this gentleman was very sure.
Later on, in fact, when Carl Castle became clear and
famous kind of, his father saw the picture of Ed
in the paper and he said, that is the exact
man that I saw walking in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So this means that this little character came all the way,
I want to say, in the upper northern part of Canada,
I'm not sure, all the way down through that time,
and then walked down to Miami. And the whole time
he was using his divining rod looking for the certain
land that he wanted.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know. I in nineteen eighteen there was a logging
right across Canada, so he could have been anywhere from
the Atlantic provinces to mid Ontario or right through to
British Columbia.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Now that's one heck of a walk, I'm telling you,
the little man. And at this time, here's what's really wild.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
This whole time he had tuberculosis.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Oh lord, Yeah, when.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
He got to when he got to Florida, the doctor
checked him out. They found him passed that on the
side of the road, and a guy doing real estate
was riding along and they thought he.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Was a boy. He was so small where they ticked
him up. He was passed out.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
They checked him out and the doctor told him the
next day he said, son, I don't know how you've
even had the energy to brush your teeth. Your body
is eaten up with tuberculosis. You have four to six
months to live. So he made that walk from Canada.
Rob all the time with terminal tuberculosis.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What was his motivation for walking all the way from
Canada to Florida?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Was it to find the exact spot by following the
lay lines or whatever he was seeking with his divining rods.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I believe that he was looking for the lay lines,
you know, those lay lines where where with Bruce Cathy's
work and book, He's got a book out called Harmonic
Grid in the UFOs, and it's it's obvious that he
was looking for those lay lines and he's looking for
the most powerful spot to erect the castle. I really believe, Rob,
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and several people have written to me talking about you know,
that is the essence of Ed. That's if you're going
to write a song about Ed, it's about the walk
from Canada to Florida. And I believe during that whole
time he was looking for that place. And you know,
in his mind he had the castle for Agnes already built.
He was just looking for the place to put it.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Where did he get where did he get his knowledge from?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You know, when you asked him that question, Rob, he
would smile and he would say, well, he'd say, I
read books on the Egyptians, on the Mayans, on the Incas,
on the Aztecs, and every book he could get his
hand on about magnets and how the magnetic forces affect
the earth. That was one of his strong things. And
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then you would say, well, what books did you read?
And he would never tell you. Really, and the little
man when he got to Florida, people said he would
spend five hours a day in the library as he
was building the castle.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
But Rob. I've gone to that library down.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
In Homestead in Florida City, and you know, I'm not
saying that he couldn't find books in there about it,
but I believe that he traveled either with the books
from Lotvia because around lot Bey in that area there
are a lot of the ancient discoveries type thing, you know,
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and I believe that he had to have had that
knowledge before he came to Florida. He knew what he
was doing, and he knew where he was going.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
All right, why did he choose the wrist land in
Florida City to build the coral Castle.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Here's here's what is so strange about this. He goes
around with his divining rod and he went to a
junk yard after he was diagnosed with tuberculosis. He said, well,
he said, I need to make some tools. Deserve a
junk yard around here, And they said, yeah, you know,
Killgore's junk yards is right around the corner. So they
took him there and he got a bunch of bizarre
looking tools, you know, wheel bearings from old trucks and
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bumpers and everything you can imagine. And then he found
an old bicycle. And he was so poor the man
gaining the bicycle because he had no tires on it.
So he rode around Homestead and really Florida City on
that bicycle, and he'd stopped every now and get off
and go dowsing. And that's how he got the name
crazy Ed. So one day he came in and the
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real estate man had been helping him, and Ed came
in and they want he said, he said, Tom, He said,
I have found the piece of land that I want.
So he was excited for the real estate man. He said, great,
let's go look at it. And when he came out there, Rob, it.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Was the worst.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The real estate man said, you, son, you can't farm
anything but rocks in this place, only a little bit
of top soil and four thousands feet straight down, Rob,
is this coral? Now, this coral is called oolitic limestone.
And the reason it's called that is these little characters
called uliths or which are like little tiny seahorses, if
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you will, little tiny crustacean looking things, and they get
together and they form, and when they die, their bodies
are stuck together. And that coral, they say, and I
think it's older than this, But the scientists now saying
it's thirty thousand years old, okay, And he chose that
limestone because it was that area there was less topsails,
who had less digging. And the man said, well, Ed,
(17:44):
you know this land is no good. But son, we
don't won't even charge. We'll give it to you if
you want. He said fine, So they gave him the
lamb and he told him, he said, I'm going to
put up a tent. You guys just leave and come
back and check on me in by a month. When
they came back, it was a hot Sunday afternoon and
the man his wife said, let's go check on Ed
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and just see what he's doing. When they walked up
on him, Rob he had a tripod of poles, telephone
poles sixty feet tall, okay. In the middle of that
teepee that tripod was a chain coming down and at
the bottom of that chain was a piece of ten
tons of coral. It was cut into a block. And
when I say a block, I mean it was perfectly squared,
(18:27):
perfectly cut and just hanging in that tripod. Now, Ed
was a small man, but he was working with that stone,
so he kind.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Of got a good bill.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
He got a little stocky bill there and when they
walked up on him, he had no shirt. And the
funny thing was when they walked up, he wasn't working.
He was staring at them. Now, this is one of
the characteristics of ed that that gets overlooked, and this
is true. You can talk to anybody in Homestead that
was there at the time. They're mostly dead now, but
they left behind documents that said he knew he could
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feel the person.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
He had a sixth sense.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
He was building the castle, people would try to sneak
up on him. Remember he only worked from midnight till
six in the morning, and when people tried to sneak up,
he would step up on the walls, sit down and
start singing or saying, how you guys doing tonight? I
can't work until you leave. They low crawled like alligators.
They would just sneak up, be fifty seventy five yards
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and he'd stand up and know they were there. Nobody
ever explained where that sense was. But someone asked him
one time and said, how do you perceive the people?
And he said, let me tell you something. The human
mind has not been developed. You know, we only use
a small percentage of it, he said, But I've concentrated,
and I can chase a mosquito off a wall from
across the room. That's what his powers of concentration were.
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And he said, you know how you feel somebody sneaking
up on you from behind? He said, I can see
in the front, and I feel the vibrations of the
human body. He was very tuned into detail things that
we took for granted.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
He studied.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You know, you know we laugh here in the state,
and I'm sure in Canada you do it too. We say, well,
you know, what's so boring? It was watching like watching
paint draft right, yeah, okay. He would actually watch mold
going in a pond to see how the sunlight affected
the growth.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
So he was, ah, so.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
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Last night on the show, in the final hour, Patrick
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continued being done at the NAPA State Hospital. Joe Bullard
is our special guest. We're talking about the Coral Castle
and for more information, you can visit Joe's website at
www dot Waiting for Agnes dot com. Joel, thanks for
being with us. Was always great having you on the show.
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It's such an interesting story. It is such it's got
to be one of the world's last mysteries. For goodness sake,
how this man moved all these giant sized pieces of
coral by himself and we still don't know the technology
that used. Are we any closer to getting the truth?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
No, Rob, Unfortunately, I'm in my twenty fifth year of
studying this and you're one of the great advocates of
Coral Castle, because, believe it or not, I mean, we've
been preaching this story for how many times on your
show and how many years? And you know, every time
I do one of your shows, and I tell you,
I love the people in Canada because I get more
orders for books from Canada than I do in the
(24:47):
United States. And it's it's really strange, but even I've
only done one radio interview in Florida, and all the
time I've done you so many times and thankful for
you and Exelon because this is the last one of
the last great mysteries. You know, when he died in
nineteen fifty one, he left behind clues.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
But you really have to study ED.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And no, we're no closer, Rob, because there's only a
few people. I wish that, you know, we could get scientists.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
I wish we could get even.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
The college to do this from the University of Florida.
It's only an eight hour drive from there. But there's
nobody studying what ED did.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
I mean, there's a few people.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I shouldn't say nobody, but it's just there's just not enough.
It should be a university.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Is there a connection between the Coral Castle Ed's mystical
powers and the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's that's an interesting question, Rob, and I did not
realize this until I started studying the Bermuna triangle in
Coral Castle. But Caral Castle actually sits in the end, right.
The Bermuda Triangle goes out from the kind of like
the bottom of New Jersey and it forms the point
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up at Bermuda, and then it comes down to just
kind of cuts the edge of Puerto Rico that goes
through Kingston, Jamaica goes through a part of Cuba. So
actually the Coral Castle sits right if you could, at
the base or the bottom of the Bermuda Triangle. And
you know, it's really interesting, Rob, because Florida has so
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much weird stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I think since I talked to you last time, there
was only a little blurb in the newspaper, but they
have found a twenty thousand foot deep chasm between Florida
and Bermuda, and evidently what's happening there is and I
had friends out in Pensacolta, where I went to school,
and theyre's discovering usos, the underwater submerged vehicles that are unknown.
(26:53):
They're saying they're using this chasm to go from Florida
right on into Canada. And you know, you've had bunches
of side of the USO is there, and so where
Ed's castle is located. You know, there's so many theories
now that you know, Casey said that Atlantis was sitting
right there between Florida and Bermuda. And I don't know
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if we talked about this, Rob, but back in the
nineteen seventies, a doctor from Santa Monica was skin diving
in Bermuda now in Florida, right, and I've been there
many times. Between Bermuda here in Florida and Bermuda, You'll
be sitting out the rob beautiful whether a squaw will
blow up in twenty minutes and you've got to get
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out of there because I mean, winds come through. They're
not hurricane, but they're strong. Well, anyway, long story short,
this doctor was Scoono diving. Well, they contacted him. They said, Doc,
you got to get out of the water. You got
to move.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Squaws coming up.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Well, they go back to their hotel and wait because
the storm takes two days.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
When they go back to this area where they were diving,
what happened was that wind blew away all the sand.
There was a pyramid of he he estimated four hundred
and eighty feet high. Okay, the top of it was broken.
He was able to enter the pyramid. He got down
to the pyramid about forty five feet from the top,
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and in this there was a marble base there Rob
facing the upper top, and on one of the ceilings
that was still left in the pyramid came a rod
down and the rod stopped right at a pair of
bronze hands, and in these bronze hands was a perfect
crystal round crystal ball about the size of a C ball,
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a little bit bigger, and he was fascinated. Well, he
was able to wrench the bronze hands apart because they
weren't that close holding the ball.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
He got the.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Magnetic or the crystal ball out of there, and about
this time the squaw came up again, so he had
no time to really research this pyramid. He swims out
of there, gets back to his boat. Okay, they had
no time to really map where they were or what
was going on. Okay, he goes back to California, takes
this crystal ball, and he remembered the rod that was
coming out of the pyramid and down to the crystal ball,
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and he thought, well, this is strange. Wonder what's going
on here. Well, they take this crystal ball and these
scientists test it. They take a rod like was in
the Great Pyramid or the pyramid in the Bermuda triangle there,
and they put a little spring on the end and
then they attached.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
A little piece of steel to it, just like the.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Rod was coming down at the pyramid. Well, every time
they approached this crystal ball. Rob it would deflect, it
would not allow that piece of steel to come in
contact with it. Every time they pushed it, it would
push that It was like a slinky, if you will,
and it would just push that spring back. And they
were amazed. And now this crystal ball was studied by
every scientist. He took it all over the United States
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and they all said, we do not understand what is there.
So there's so many and they could not find that pyramid.
They went back the next year and the storms.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Had covered it back up.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
But there's absolute evidence of these things there.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Here's interesting coincidence, my friend, have you ever heard of
the Great Lakes Triangle.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I've heard of it wrong, but I'm really ignorant of it.
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, you know what you're not, because the the the
Great Lakes Triangle is one sixteenth the size of the
Bermuda Triangle. They're basically the exact same shape. It starts
at around Kingston on the Saint Lawrence River, goes to
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the top of Lake Superior, down to the bottom of
Lake Michigan, and then in a straight line back to
Kingston or Marysburg. Wow, there have been more ships lost more,
ships disappeared, Aircraft have disappeared, people have disappeared. There have
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been ghost ship sightings, there have been lake there have
been lake monster sidings, all within the Great Lakes Triangle.
It is perfectly aligned with the true North. So if
you had ed walking from Canada and following a lay
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line to the Bermuda Triangle, which is sixteen times larger,
which would give it a strength of sixteen times magnification
and increase. This is one coincidence. A second coincidence is
that there was a novelisk that arose from a location
(31:40):
in the Great Lakes Triangle. I believe it was in
the Saint Lawrence River. It arose out of the water,
and then you know what, not, unlike your pyramid, disappeared again,
never to be seen since that time. Wow, what do.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
You remember what shape the obelisk was?
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You know what? I did an article on this. Okay,
I will find the article and I will.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Send it to you, Okay, because you know I'm sitting
here thinking ed Rays. The tallest stone at Coral Castle
is an obelisk and a half tons.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
There's more. There's more to this than a coincidence, my friend.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, Wow, that I had not thought about. I'd not
thought about him because for some reason, how did he
know exactly where to walk from Canada? You know where
to go to look for these lines, so it had
to be something guiding him.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Plus, in the Great Lakes Triangle, there are columns of
electromagnetism that move throughout the Great Lakes that are marked
on navigational charts, just as those are in the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Goodness, maybe you should do a book on this.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Rob, Oh gosh, if I ever have the time, My friend,
you are about the two million person who suggested I
do a book, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Sitting here going, gosh, man, this there is so much
coincidence between here and in Canada, like maybe something here.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
I think so. In fact, Rob, I was.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Going to tell you I've had so many people. I
got really excited when I found out that he made
the walk from Canada, and I called a few of
my friends in Canada that I've kind of met through
your show, and one of them, his last name is Ferguson,
which is my grandmother's name, so we've kind of bonded.
And I told him, I said, Larry, I said, I
want to I want to make the walk that Ed
did from Canada to Florida. I was kind of kidding
(33:44):
him and he said, really, so he's called me back
up and I said, you know, I wonder if the
I wonder if the people in Canada would What I
was thinking of, Rob is is making up a stone
kind of like Ed had the crescent moon. Make it
in styrofoam and make it look like a stone, and
then take that walk, say from Toronto or Ontario, and
maybe walk the back roads like he did. And you know,
if somebody wanted to give me a ride, that could
(34:05):
give me a ride and just see what we could
do with we tracing his steps.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Well, you know what, I think, now that we've established
there might be a very strong connection between the Great
Lakes Triangle and the Bermuda Triangle. I think that this
certainly does merit looking into a lot closer.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, yeah, because amazing. Yeah, And I love it that
Canada is connected with the Ed story. See, because he
spent four years in Canada trying to get over his heartbreak,
and he would not have left had not been for
his health. I think he was stayed in Canada. He
was very happy there.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Tell me, whatever happened to Agnes.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Well, the Agnes story that I understand. One of the
last times, well, I guess one of the second times
I was in Coral Castle was nineteen eighty four, and
I must have just missed her.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
This.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
One of the guys at Coral Castle said that one
day he gave a tour. Well, after the tour, a
young couple came up to him and said, hey, we
love the tour and we wanted you to know we're
from Latvia and said the tour guy said, oh, that's great.
He said, you wouldn't happen to have Agnes's phone number,
would you? And the man said, you know, funny, but
we do because she is our babysitter when we left Riga.
She's babysitting our children. And the man, the guy was astonished,
(35:19):
and he said if you got her phone number and
the guy said yeah. He said could we call her and.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
He said of course.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
So they go in the little museum there and they
call her and the guy introduced himself and he said, Agnes,
I'm here with the you know your friends that you're babysitting.
And he said, we're at Coral Castle and we'd love
to have you as a guest. You know, we'll pay
for your trip and just be cold for you to
come and see the castle. And she was not really
happy with the phone calls. She said, let me tell
you something. She said, I'm not interested in that castle
(35:46):
when he built it. I surely don't want to see
it now. And I'm going to tell you another thing.
She said, I never loved him, Oh my gosh, and
hung up out. Well, I tell a lot of people, Rob,
she had no idea, of course, that he would go
on and do this monument to her. That's you know,
I mean, it's a scientific wonder, it's in everything. And
(36:07):
course he would always say I did it because I'm
waiting for Agnes. So he really made her famous. And
I think Rob, she was embarrassed that things went the
way they did and that she jilted him. And I
think the story that I have was that it was
not so much Agnes that stopped the wedding, but it
was her mother. She felt like Ed was too old
and too poor and she wanted her daughter to marry up,
(36:31):
and she didn't feel like Ed was in their class.
And so they believe that her being a young girl,
she was more influenced by her mother. Now they think
the person that came to carl Castle that she had
baby sat with their children, said that she was divorced
and had two children. So at some point she had
gotten married and had children and something happened to her husband.
(36:54):
But she was eighty three, I believe at that time,
in nineteen eighty four, so that depth she would be,
you know, long gone by.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Now, Joe, please stand by. We've got to take our
final break for this hour. Joe Bullard's are a special
guest and we're going to be talking to Joe over
the next couple of weeks about the Coral Castle connection
with the Bermuda Triangle and the Great Lakes Triangle here
in North America. My name is Rob McConnell. This is
the X Zone. For more information on Joe Bullard waiting
(37:25):
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Joe Bullard's are a special guest. We're talking about the
Coral Castle in Florida. If you'd like more information on Joe,
visit his website at www dot Waiting for Agnes dot com.
First of all, Joe, always great having you here on
the show. We'll be in touch with you and we'll
do a joint investigation on the connection between the Bermuda Triangle,
(40:28):
Coral Castle and the Great Lakes Triangle. There has to
be a connection here has to.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Be rob if I might just missed real quickly. We
also have a short video of your listeners would like
to check it out on YouTube. You just go to
the travel place in Kyping Coral Castle and our video
is the first one called Mystery at Coral Castle on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
We'll certainly put that on the website as well. Joe,
thanks a couple of quick questions. Why did Ed move
Coral Castle ten miles away to Homestead in nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
In that area, Rob he was, I'll just have to
He was approached by three or four thugs.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
At night one night.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
They were trying to find out information on his perpetual
motion holder that was the electric the machine that produced
electricity with magnets. Well, he wouldn't tell him anything, so
they finally beat him almost to death, and right after
that beating he started moving the castle. Now he told
people that the cat the area there was getting too
crowded and he wanted to be farther out from town. Well,
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he caught up his friend and they backed a truck
and trailer in there, and he told the man to
leave and come back in an hour. When the man
came back in an hour, there was a thirty ton
and an eighteen ton stone loaded on the truck, and
so they started moving. It took them one year to
move the castle stone by Stone. Now here's what there's
two theories.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
The area at Florida City, this harmonic grid that we
keep talking about, are these lay lines. If the listener
there can just imagine that these are like electric power
lines that would run into Of course, they're invisible except
to those who can find them, like Ed. Now an earthquake,
Rob can come along in course that tremor in that shake,
they say that it can mess up that energy line.
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And they believe that Ed made a surveying error at
Florida City and when he discovered the error, the power
there was not as strong. So he always would take
in his dowsing rods. So he went to Homestead one day,
which is ten miles north of Florida City. There and
found a stronger point of this power. And they believe,
(42:33):
Now this is just all theory, but they believe that
he moved it from Florida City to Homestead because he
could see that the lay line power was diminishing. Now
this is kind of getting fuzzy and it's kind kind
of hard to understand. But at Coral Castle, I have
seen a god. There's a guide there, Rob who can
show you where those lay lines. Now they're not as
(42:55):
strong as they were, but they will still move dowsing
rods unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, Joe, We've got to say so long for tonight,
but I will be in touch with you over the
next couple of days and let's see what we can
come up with to cement these three mysteries together.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
That sounds great, Rob, thank you again for having me on,
and I want to thank all your your listeners in
Canada for supporting me.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
Man.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
You guys are great and I love Canada.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
You take care, buddy, well, speak you soon. Bye bye bye,
Joe Bullard www dot waiting for Agnes dot com. When
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Speaker 4 (04:17):
Hey, Rob's great man, you sound great. Great to be
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Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, super having you here, Joe. Now, Joe, I was
wondering if you could let our listeners know where exactly
in Florida the Coral Castle is.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Rob Coral Castle is located about a thirty minute drive.
It's actually south of Miami and it's Homestead in Florida
City where Florida City is where it first built it.
Then he moved it, like we've talked before, one stone
at the time. He moved it to Homestead in about
nineteen thirty six. So when you're down there, You're about
an hour away from the Florida Keys, so you're right
(04:53):
in the middle between the Florida Keys in Miami is
where Homestead and Florida City are.
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And welcome back to the excellent everyone. We're talking about
the Coral Castle in Florida this hour. Joe Bullard is
our special guest, and Joe, I was wondering if you
could give our listeners a brief history of the Coral
Castle and when it was moved. Joe, how long did
it take ed to move it?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Okay, the story of coal Castle actually begins in Lot
the nineteen twelve.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Rub Ed was a twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Year old He and his uncle or his grandfather, I'm sorry.
At the time, we're in the tombstone business. And Ed
was twenty six and the girl that he met was
named Agnes Scuffs.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
They had a brief.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Dating type thing and they both just fell in love,
and so they set a date for the wedding, and
the night before the wedding. You got to remember, Agnes
was only sixteen years old and Ed was twenty six,
a little bit older than her. Of course that wasn't
too much in that time zone, that that wasn't too
much for them. But for some reason, she never really
gave it a reason, but she jilted him the night
(09:36):
before their wedding, and it was the only girl he'd
ever loved. Rob He was sickly as a child, never
a big guy. He was like five feet one hundred
pounds and had you know, had really missed a lot
of school for sickness and didn't have a chance to
be around to the kids in date too much. So
when she jilted him, it devastated him. He left Loti
(09:57):
up now Lotvia is one of the Baltic states. You've
got Lithuania and Estonia, and it's just right on.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
The edge of Russia. In World War Two, the Germans
took it over, and then the Russians took it over.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
So Latvia was kicked around, kind of like a soccer ball,
if you will. So Ed was broken hearted, and he said, well,
I got to get out of a Lotvia. And there
was a friend of his that told him, he said,
you know, you might get a job in Canada cutting
timber and Ed said, well, I don't care. I got
to get out of here. So he jumped on a boat.
Rob and I've always been interested. I've never been able
(10:29):
to track down in what part of Canada that he worked,
but he worked in the lumber then Alan and he
sort of built up his help again because he was
working hard. And in nineteen eighteen he started coughing and
having really difficulties breathing, and they told him, they said, look,
you've got to get out of this cold and somewhere warmer.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I had always been told Rob that he took a
boat from Canada. But one of the last times I
was on your show, I got an email from a
guy and he said, you know, I loved your story
and it was all it was all correct, he said,
except for the part where he took a boat. He said,
he did not take a boat because my father saw
him in Jacksonville, Florida, evidently, and they we think he
(11:12):
just crossed I guess not legally, but just wherever he
could cross.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
At that time.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
In nineteen eighteen, Rob he crossed into America walking. And
now this is what's strange. He walked with a divining rod,
you know, like when you're browsing for water. Because the
gentleman said, in Jacksonville, his father was going to work
every day, and his father worked because he was pretty
close to Jacksonville, Florida, and he saw this little man
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walking around with the divining rod, checking the ground as
he walked. So he became curious one day and he
stopped him and he said, sir, He said, what in
the world are you doing? And the little man just
looked at him and he said, when I find it,
I don't know it, and he just kept on walking Rob.
And so the man was like, well, what did that mean?
So for several days he kept following the road where
(12:02):
ed would be and he came back again to him
and he said, Sarah, I don't mean to molest you,
but what are you looking for? And what did you
mean when you find it? And they said. Ed just
smiled and he said, all I can tell you is
when I find it, I'll know it. And he kept
on walking. So this is really a phenomenal thing to me, Rob,
because Ed walked and he didn't take a boat. From
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what I can understand, because this gentleman was very sure.
Later on, in fact, when Carl Castle became clear and
famous kind of, his father saw the picture of Ed
in the paper and he said, that is the exact
man that I saw walking in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So this means that this little character came all the way,
I want to say, in the upper northern part of Canada,
I'm not sure, all the way down through that time,
and then walked down to Miami. And the whole time
he was using his divining rod looking for the certain
land that he wanted.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know. I in nineteen eighteen there was a logging
right across Canada, so he could have been anywhere from
the Atlantic provinces to mid Ontario or right through to
British Columbia.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Now that's one heck of a walk, I'm telling you,
the little man. And at this time, here's what's really wild.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
This whole time he had tuberculosis.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Oh lord, Yeah, when.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
He got to when he got to Florida, the doctor
checked him out. They found him passed that on the
side of the road, and a guy doing real estate
was riding along and they thought he.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Was a boy. He was so small where they ticked
him up. He was passed out.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
They checked him out and the doctor told him the
next day he said, son, I don't know how you've
even had the energy to brush your teeth. Your body
is eaten up with tuberculosis. You have four to six
months to live. So he made that walk from Canada.
Rob all the time with terminal tuberculosis.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What was his motivation for walking all the way from
Canada to Florida?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Was it to find the exact spot by following the
lay lines or whatever he was seeking with his divining rods.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I believe that he was looking for the lay lines,
you know, those lay lines where where with Bruce Cathy's
work and book, He's got a book out called Harmonic
Grid in the UFOs, and it's it's obvious that he
was looking for those lay lines and he's looking for
the most powerful spot to erect the castle. I really believe, Rob,
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and several people have written to me talking about you know,
that is the essence of Ed. That's if you're going
to write a song about Ed, it's about the walk
from Canada to Florida. And I believe during that whole
time he was looking for that place. And you know,
in his mind he had the castle for Agnes already built.
He was just looking for the place to put it.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Where did he get where did he get his knowledge from?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You know, when you asked him that question, Rob, he
would smile and he would say, well, he'd say, I
read books on the Egyptians, on the Mayans, on the Incas,
on the Aztecs, and every book he could get his
hand on about magnets and how the magnetic forces affect
the earth. That was one of his strong things. And
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then you would say, well, what books did you read?
And he would never tell you. Really, and the little
man when he got to Florida, people said he would
spend five hours a day in the library as he
was building the castle.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
But Rob. I've gone to that library down.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
In Homestead in Florida City, and you know, I'm not
saying that he couldn't find books in there about it,
but I believe that he traveled either with the books
from Lotvia because around lot Bey in that area there
are a lot of the ancient discoveries type thing, you know,
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and I believe that he had to have had that
knowledge before he came to Florida. He knew what he
was doing, and he knew where he was going.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
All right, why did he choose the wrist land in
Florida City to build the coral Castle.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Here's here's what is so strange about this. He goes
around with his divining rod and he went to a
junk yard after he was diagnosed with tuberculosis. He said, well,
he said, I need to make some tools. Deserve a
junk yard around here, And they said, yeah, you know,
Killgore's junk yards is right around the corner. So they
took him there and he got a bunch of bizarre
looking tools, you know, wheel bearings from old trucks and
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bumpers and everything you can imagine. And then he found
an old bicycle. And he was so poor the man
gaining the bicycle because he had no tires on it.
So he rode around Homestead and really Florida City on
that bicycle, and he'd stopped every now and get off
and go dowsing. And that's how he got the name
crazy Ed. So one day he came in and the
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real estate man had been helping him, and Ed came
in and they want he said, he said, Tom, He said,
I have found the piece of land that I want.
So he was excited for the real estate man. He said, great,
let's go look at it. And when he came out there, Rob, it.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Was the worst.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The real estate man said, you, son, you can't farm
anything but rocks in this place, only a little bit
of top soil and four thousands feet straight down, Rob,
is this coral? Now, this coral is called oolitic limestone.
And the reason it's called that is these little characters
called uliths or which are like little tiny seahorses, if
(17:22):
you will, little tiny crustacean looking things, and they get
together and they form, and when they die, their bodies
are stuck together. And that coral, they say, and I
think it's older than this, But the scientists now saying
it's thirty thousand years old, okay, And he chose that
limestone because it was that area there was less topsails,
who had less digging. And the man said, well, Ed,
(17:44):
you know this land is no good. But son, we
don't won't even charge. We'll give it to you if
you want. He said fine, So they gave him the
lamb and he told him, he said, I'm going to
put up a tent. You guys just leave and come
back and check on me in by a month. When
they came back, it was a hot Sunday afternoon and
the man his wife said, let's go check on Ed
(18:05):
and just see what he's doing. When they walked up
on him, Rob he had a tripod of poles, telephone
poles sixty feet tall, okay. In the middle of that
teepee that tripod was a chain coming down and at
the bottom of that chain was a piece of ten
tons of coral. It was cut into a block. And
when I say a block, I mean it was perfectly squared,
(18:27):
perfectly cut and just hanging in that tripod. Now, Ed
was a small man, but he was working with that stone,
so he kind.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Of got a good bill.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
He got a little stocky bill there and when they
walked up on him, he had no shirt. And the
funny thing was when they walked up, he wasn't working.
He was staring at them. Now, this is one of
the characteristics of ed that that gets overlooked, and this
is true. You can talk to anybody in Homestead that
was there at the time. They're mostly dead now, but
they left behind documents that said he knew he could
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feel the person.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
He had a sixth sense.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
He was building the castle, people would try to sneak
up on him. Remember he only worked from midnight till
six in the morning, and when people tried to sneak up,
he would step up on the walls, sit down and
start singing or saying, how you guys doing tonight? I
can't work until you leave. They low crawled like alligators.
They would just sneak up, be fifty seventy five yards
(19:21):
and he'd stand up and know they were there. Nobody
ever explained where that sense was. But someone asked him
one time and said, how do you perceive the people?
And he said, let me tell you something. The human
mind has not been developed. You know, we only use
a small percentage of it, he said, But I've concentrated,
and I can chase a mosquito off a wall from
across the room. That's what his powers of concentration were.
(19:44):
And he said, you know how you feel somebody sneaking
up on you from behind? He said, I can see
in the front, and I feel the vibrations of the
human body. He was very tuned into detail things that
we took for granted.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
He studied.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You know, you know we laugh here in the state,
and I'm sure in Canada you do it too. We say, well,
you know, what's so boring? It was watching like watching
paint draft right, yeah, okay. He would actually watch mold
going in a pond to see how the sunlight affected
the growth.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
So he was, ah, so.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
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continued being done at the NAPA State Hospital. Joe Bullard
is our special guest. We're talking about the Coral Castle
and for more information, you can visit Joe's website at
www dot Waiting for Agnes dot com. Joel, thanks for
being with us. Was always great having you on the show.
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It's such an interesting story. It is such it's got
to be one of the world's last mysteries. For goodness sake,
how this man moved all these giant sized pieces of
coral by himself and we still don't know the technology
that used. Are we any closer to getting the truth?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
No, Rob, Unfortunately, I'm in my twenty fifth year of
studying this and you're one of the great advocates of
Coral Castle, because, believe it or not, I mean, we've
been preaching this story for how many times on your
show and how many years? And you know, every time
I do one of your shows, and I tell you,
I love the people in Canada because I get more
orders for books from Canada than I do in the
(24:47):
United States. And it's it's really strange, but even I've
only done one radio interview in Florida, and all the
time I've done you so many times and thankful for
you and Exelon because this is the last one of
the last great mysteries. You know, when he died in
nineteen fifty one, he left behind clues.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
But you really have to study ED.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And no, we're no closer, Rob, because there's only a
few people. I wish that, you know, we could get scientists.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
I wish we could get even.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
The college to do this from the University of Florida.
It's only an eight hour drive from there. But there's
nobody studying what ED did.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
I mean, there's a few people.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I shouldn't say nobody, but it's just there's just not enough.
It should be a university.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Is there a connection between the Coral Castle Ed's mystical
powers and the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's that's an interesting question, Rob, and I did not
realize this until I started studying the Bermuna triangle in
Coral Castle. But Caral Castle actually sits in the end, right.
The Bermuda Triangle goes out from the kind of like
the bottom of New Jersey and it forms the point
(26:05):
up at Bermuda, and then it comes down to just
kind of cuts the edge of Puerto Rico that goes
through Kingston, Jamaica goes through a part of Cuba. So
actually the Coral Castle sits right if you could, at
the base or the bottom of the Bermuda Triangle. And
you know, it's really interesting, Rob, because Florida has so
(26:26):
much weird stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I think since I talked to you last time, there
was only a little blurb in the newspaper, but they
have found a twenty thousand foot deep chasm between Florida
and Bermuda, and evidently what's happening there is and I
had friends out in Pensacolta, where I went to school,
and theyre's discovering usos, the underwater submerged vehicles that are unknown.
(26:53):
They're saying they're using this chasm to go from Florida
right on into Canada. And you know, you've had bunches
of side of the USO is there, and so where
Ed's castle is located. You know, there's so many theories
now that you know, Casey said that Atlantis was sitting
right there between Florida and Bermuda. And I don't know
(27:14):
if we talked about this, Rob, but back in the
nineteen seventies, a doctor from Santa Monica was skin diving
in Bermuda now in Florida, right, and I've been there
many times. Between Bermuda here in Florida and Bermuda, You'll
be sitting out the rob beautiful whether a squaw will
blow up in twenty minutes and you've got to get
(27:34):
out of there because I mean, winds come through. They're
not hurricane, but they're strong. Well, anyway, long story short,
this doctor was Scoono diving. Well, they contacted him. They said, Doc,
you got to get out of the water. You got
to move.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Squaws coming up.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Well, they go back to their hotel and wait because
the storm takes two days.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
When they go back to this area where they were diving,
what happened was that wind blew away all the sand.
There was a pyramid of he he estimated four hundred
and eighty feet high. Okay, the top of it was broken.
He was able to enter the pyramid. He got down
to the pyramid about forty five feet from the top,
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and in this there was a marble base there Rob
facing the upper top, and on one of the ceilings
that was still left in the pyramid came a rod
down and the rod stopped right at a pair of
bronze hands, and in these bronze hands was a perfect
crystal round crystal ball about the size of a C ball,
(28:34):
a little bit bigger, and he was fascinated. Well, he
was able to wrench the bronze hands apart because they
weren't that close holding the ball.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
He got the.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Magnetic or the crystal ball out of there, and about
this time the squaw came up again, so he had
no time to really research this pyramid. He swims out
of there, gets back to his boat. Okay, they had
no time to really map where they were or what
was going on. Okay, he goes back to California, takes
this crystal ball, and he remembered the rod that was
coming out of the pyramid and down to the crystal ball,
(29:05):
and he thought, well, this is strange. Wonder what's going
on here. Well, they take this crystal ball and these
scientists test it. They take a rod like was in
the Great Pyramid or the pyramid in the Bermuda triangle there,
and they put a little spring on the end and
then they attached.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
A little piece of steel to it, just like the.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Rod was coming down at the pyramid. Well, every time
they approached this crystal ball. Rob it would deflect, it
would not allow that piece of steel to come in
contact with it. Every time they pushed it, it would
push that It was like a slinky, if you will,
and it would just push that spring back. And they
were amazed. And now this crystal ball was studied by
every scientist. He took it all over the United States
(29:44):
and they all said, we do not understand what is there.
So there's so many and they could not find that pyramid.
They went back the next year and the storms.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Had covered it back up.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
But there's absolute evidence of these things there.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Here's interesting coincidence, my friend, have you ever heard of
the Great Lakes Triangle.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I've heard of it wrong, but I'm really ignorant of it.
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, you know what you're not, because the the the
Great Lakes Triangle is one sixteenth the size of the
Bermuda Triangle. They're basically the exact same shape. It starts
at around Kingston on the Saint Lawrence River, goes to
(30:30):
the top of Lake Superior, down to the bottom of
Lake Michigan, and then in a straight line back to
Kingston or Marysburg. Wow, there have been more ships lost more,
ships disappeared, Aircraft have disappeared, people have disappeared. There have
(30:51):
been ghost ship sightings, there have been lake there have
been lake monster sidings, all within the Great Lakes Triangle.
It is perfectly aligned with the true North. So if
you had ed walking from Canada and following a lay
(31:14):
line to the Bermuda Triangle, which is sixteen times larger,
which would give it a strength of sixteen times magnification
and increase. This is one coincidence. A second coincidence is
that there was a novelisk that arose from a location
(31:40):
in the Great Lakes Triangle. I believe it was in
the Saint Lawrence River. It arose out of the water,
and then you know what, not, unlike your pyramid, disappeared again,
never to be seen since that time. Wow, what do.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
You remember what shape the obelisk was?
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You know what? I did an article on this. Okay,
I will find the article and I will.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Send it to you, Okay, because you know I'm sitting
here thinking ed Rays. The tallest stone at Coral Castle
is an obelisk and a half tons.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
There's more. There's more to this than a coincidence, my friend.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, Wow, that I had not thought about. I'd not
thought about him because for some reason, how did he
know exactly where to walk from Canada? You know where
to go to look for these lines, so it had
to be something guiding him.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Plus, in the Great Lakes Triangle, there are columns of
electromagnetism that move throughout the Great Lakes that are marked
on navigational charts, just as those are in the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Goodness, maybe you should do a book on this.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Rob, Oh gosh, if I ever have the time, My friend,
you are about the two million person who suggested I
do a book, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Sitting here going, gosh, man, this there is so much
coincidence between here and in Canada, like maybe something here.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
I think so. In fact, Rob, I was.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Going to tell you I've had so many people. I
got really excited when I found out that he made
the walk from Canada, and I called a few of
my friends in Canada that I've kind of met through
your show, and one of them, his last name is Ferguson,
which is my grandmother's name, so we've kind of bonded.
And I told him, I said, Larry, I said, I
want to I want to make the walk that Ed
did from Canada to Florida. I was kind of kidding
(33:44):
him and he said, really, so he's called me back
up and I said, you know, I wonder if the
I wonder if the people in Canada would What I
was thinking of, Rob is is making up a stone
kind of like Ed had the crescent moon. Make it
in styrofoam and make it look like a stone, and
then take that walk, say from Toronto or Ontario, and
maybe walk the back roads like he did. And you know,
if somebody wanted to give me a ride, that could
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give me a ride and just see what we could
do with we tracing his steps.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Well, you know what, I think, now that we've established
there might be a very strong connection between the Great
Lakes Triangle and the Bermuda Triangle. I think that this
certainly does merit looking into a lot closer.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, yeah, because amazing. Yeah, And I love it that
Canada is connected with the Ed story. See, because he
spent four years in Canada trying to get over his heartbreak,
and he would not have left had not been for
his health. I think he was stayed in Canada. He
was very happy there.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Tell me, whatever happened to Agnes.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Well, the Agnes story that I understand. One of the
last times, well, I guess one of the second times
I was in Coral Castle was nineteen eighty four, and
I must have just missed her.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
This.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
One of the guys at Coral Castle said that one
day he gave a tour. Well, after the tour, a
young couple came up to him and said, hey, we
love the tour and we wanted you to know we're
from Latvia and said the tour guy said, oh, that's great.
He said, you wouldn't happen to have Agnes's phone number,
would you? And the man said, you know, funny, but
we do because she is our babysitter when we left Riga.
She's babysitting our children. And the man, the guy was astonished,
(35:19):
and he said if you got her phone number and
the guy said yeah. He said could we call her and.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
He said of course.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
So they go in the little museum there and they
call her and the guy introduced himself and he said, Agnes,
I'm here with the you know your friends that you're babysitting.
And he said, we're at Coral Castle and we'd love
to have you as a guest. You know, we'll pay
for your trip and just be cold for you to
come and see the castle. And she was not really
happy with the phone calls. She said, let me tell
you something. She said, I'm not interested in that castle
(35:46):
when he built it. I surely don't want to see
it now. And I'm going to tell you another thing.
She said, I never loved him, Oh my gosh, and
hung up out. Well, I tell a lot of people, Rob,
she had no idea, of course, that he would go
on and do this monument to her. That's you know,
I mean, it's a scientific wonder, it's in everything. And
(36:07):
course he would always say I did it because I'm
waiting for Agnes. So he really made her famous. And
I think Rob, she was embarrassed that things went the
way they did and that she jilted him. And I
think the story that I have was that it was
not so much Agnes that stopped the wedding, but it
was her mother. She felt like Ed was too old
and too poor and she wanted her daughter to marry up,
(36:31):
and she didn't feel like Ed was in their class.
And so they believe that her being a young girl,
she was more influenced by her mother. Now they think
the person that came to carl Castle that she had
baby sat with their children, said that she was divorced
and had two children. So at some point she had
gotten married and had children and something happened to her husband.
(36:54):
But she was eighty three, I believe at that time,
in nineteen eighty four, so that depth she would be,
you know, long gone by.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Now, Joe, please stand by. We've got to take our
final break for this hour. Joe Bullard's are a special
guest and we're going to be talking to Joe over
the next couple of weeks about the Coral Castle connection
with the Bermuda Triangle and the Great Lakes Triangle here
in North America. My name is Rob McConnell. This is
the X Zone. For more information on Joe Bullard waiting
(37:25):
for Agnes dot com.
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Joe Bullard's are a special guest. We're talking about the
Coral Castle in Florida. If you'd like more information on Joe,
visit his website at www dot Waiting for Agnes dot com.
First of all, Joe, always great having you here on
the show. We'll be in touch with you and we'll
do a joint investigation on the connection between the Bermuda Triangle,
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Coral Castle and the Great Lakes Triangle. There has to
be a connection here has to.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Be rob if I might just missed real quickly. We
also have a short video of your listeners would like
to check it out on YouTube. You just go to
the travel place in Kyping Coral Castle and our video
is the first one called Mystery at Coral Castle on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
We'll certainly put that on the website as well. Joe,
thanks a couple of quick questions. Why did Ed move
Coral Castle ten miles away to Homestead in nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
In that area, Rob he was, I'll just have to
He was approached by three or four thugs.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
At night one night.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
They were trying to find out information on his perpetual
motion holder that was the electric the machine that produced
electricity with magnets. Well, he wouldn't tell him anything, so
they finally beat him almost to death, and right after
that beating he started moving the castle. Now he told
people that the cat the area there was getting too
crowded and he wanted to be farther out from town. Well,
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he caught up his friend and they backed a truck
and trailer in there, and he told the man to
leave and come back in an hour. When the man
came back in an hour, there was a thirty ton
and an eighteen ton stone loaded on the truck, and
so they started moving. It took them one year to
move the castle stone by Stone. Now here's what there's
two theories.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
The area at Florida City, this harmonic grid that we
keep talking about, are these lay lines. If the listener
there can just imagine that these are like electric power
lines that would run into Of course, they're invisible except
to those who can find them, like Ed. Now an earthquake,
Rob can come along in course that tremor in that shake,
they say that it can mess up that energy line.
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And they believe that Ed made a surveying error at
Florida City and when he discovered the error, the power
there was not as strong. So he always would take
in his dowsing rods. So he went to Homestead one day,
which is ten miles north of Florida City. There and
found a stronger point of this power. And they believe,
(42:33):
Now this is just all theory, but they believe that
he moved it from Florida City to Homestead because he
could see that the lay line power was diminishing. Now
this is kind of getting fuzzy and it's kind kind
of hard to understand. But at Coral Castle, I have
seen a god. There's a guide there, Rob who can
show you where those lay lines. Now they're not as
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strong as they were, but they will still move dowsing
rods unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, Joe, We've got to say so long for tonight,
but I will be in touch with you over the
next couple of days and let's see what we can
come up with to cement these three mysteries together.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
That sounds great, Rob, thank you again for having me on,
and I want to thank all your your listeners in
Canada for supporting me.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
Man.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
You guys are great and I love Canada.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
You take care, buddy, well, speak you soon. Bye bye bye,
Joe Bullard www dot waiting for Agnes dot com. When
we come back on the other side of the commercial break,
Brian David Anderson is going to be joining me in
the next hour for the open mic session if you'd
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