Rob McConnell Interviews - JON MICA - The Autistic Holocaust - The 'X' Zone Radio/TV Show

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Xxoneadio TV dot com. We're gonna be talking about autism
this our exxone nation. Our guest is John E. Micah.

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He is the author of The Autistic Holocaust, The Reason
Our Children Keep Getting Sick. It's published by Trying Day
and John basically accuses the federal government of having a
corrupt and morally in sound relationship with Big Pharma, first
noting the dramatic rise in the cases of autism in
the United States since the nineteen seventies. The Autistic Holocaust

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then discusses the rampant misuse and dangers associated with vaccinations.
Joining me now is a John E. Micah and John,
Welcome to the exxone John, we can't hear you, John,
we can't hear you. Just give us a sec Our
technicians are seeing if there's anything going on at this end. Craigmaster,

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can can you see what's going on? Here.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh there you go. Yeah, sorry, it's hard to turn
it on. I get't to be smarter than the equipment.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh that's all right. You just gave on engineer two
producer as a heart attack, and they deserve it at times.
There you go, reality check. Hey, hey, John, thanks very
much for joining us. Tell me about the autistic holocaust,
the reason our children keep getting sick?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Absolutely well, I have a son that's autistic, and actually
he was diagnosed with autism when he was twenty eight
years old. That was his diagnosis was confirmed. At that age.
He kind of slipped through the cracks, so to speak.
And you know, and it actually was a situation where
my relationship with him was very strange because he went
through a situation where it was a divorce, nasty situation

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that sort of complicated the whole situation because you know,
here is a child that you know, I'm looking at
as my son, and you know, I feel maybe I'm
a bad father. Not sure what's wrong with my son.
I noticed things when he was much young, like five, six, seven,
eight years of age, communicative problems, socialization problems, and behavioral problems.

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So I really didn't know. And back you know, back
in the seventies and eighties, you know, this thing wasn't
such really well known or you know, not much attention
was brought to as it is now. And I had
an opportunity through writing through my son. You know, he
was afraid of his he didn't like his cursive writing,

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so he sort of discommunicated me. He was living with
his primary caregiver, his mom. And I go on to
tell about this in my book, along with some very
interesting facts and figures and statistics. But anyway, you know,
as through helping my dad write a book, I focused
on the Oversight Committee on Government Reform hearing which focused

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on the raising rights of autism one in eighty eight.
It was the prevalence rate for autism spectrum disorders in
twenty twelve. And I found out through doing a little
more digging that you know, there is a lover a
lot of government uh sort of corruption or cover up
and malfi essence on the part of the Centers for
Disease Control. Uh. And you know you've got pharmaceutical companies

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working hand in hand to to as sway legislation. Uh.
And you know, it's a very complicated process. And the
more I dug, the angrier I got. So, you know,
I started writing and digging more and more, and then
I found out, as you know, through the hearing and
everything else, I found out spending two years of my life.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
And you know, I'm not a scientist. I'm not a
I want to clarify that I'm not a research or doctor.
But you know, I'm a concerned parent with an autistic child.
And as I found out, my relationship with him grew
through you know, doing a little digging on this book.
And I've been in touch with many autistic children and
family members of autistic children, and the reception I've got

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from writing this book is has been just really sort
of overwhelming. So and so that's how I got started.
It was my son that got it going, and as
I got into it, more and more people that were
you know, I guess I could say, for lack of
a better word, far more intelligent than I took a
vested interest in what I was doing, and that sort
of helped me along the way. And Trinday was amazing.

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And I've got just a phenomenal scientific research editor who's
an expert on many topics who assist me put this
thing together. Came up with a phenomenal product, easy to read,
anybody can understand it and just got information and then
you know, read this book two things, you're going to
come to a conclusion on you and you say, I
didn't know that, and you know what, that makes a
lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
All right, let's let's let's just go back and describe
for our listeners what autism is, because we're talking about
what is it? One in sixty eight American children, that's correct,
So let's let's let the other sixty seven people know
what autism.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Is absolutely well. Autism, by the way, is a neurological
disorder order. It affects a child or an adults ability
to communicate uh on a what I would call a
successful level or a higher functioning level.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
And it can affect their you know, their so their
socialization skills, as my son was afraid to leave the
house for five years. And it can also affect their
behavioral characteristics. And some children on that autism spectrum disorder scale, uh,
two thirds of them will never lead a normal life.
Will require institution, institutionalization and professional help and all kinds

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of services that they need simply to you know, adjust
to the best of their ability. So you know, it's
a it's a situation where it's a neuro developmental disorder, UH.
And it's it's the greatest UH disorder, you know more actually,
it's it's greater than all the development developmental disorders combined.

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We talk about UH, childhood cancer, juvenile diabetes, and pediatric AIDS.
So and this thing keeps getting growing more and more
and more. It's the graph of it is linear and statistic.
And what's really amazing, by the way, Rob, is that
we don't even got to go back to nineteen eighty

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and you go back to the seventies, it was one
maybe two or three or four or five children that
were diagnosed with autism. Was not even recognized as a
disorder until nineteen eighty. And the way we judge that
standard is by the DSM in here and maybe in
candidates the ICD the International Classification of Diseases. They have
an addition equivalent to ours, the Diagnostics Statistical Manual Mental Disorders,

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and it wasn't even recognized until the third edition in
nineteen eighty is infantile autism. And it's gone through some
categorical umbrella ing and whatnot, and right now it's very
hard to get an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis. And the
d s M five has really excluded Asperger syndrome, which
is a higher functioning level, but wasn't Asperger.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
It wasn't Asperger syndrome coined by let me see, doctor
Hans Asperger in Germany. And there's a similarity to autism
at the same time. And isn't autism and schizophrenia sometime
linked together by many researchers.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, you know, again, I think you're talking about neurological disorders,
and you know, we can look at a whole litany
of things in a regard, but when we're talking about
a definition. According to the DSM here in the United States,
it did actually list as part of the autism spectrum disorder.
In nineteen ninety four text revised edition, it added Asperger syndrome.

(16:46):
As you mentioned the doctor they brought to that to attention,
as you know, somebody which is socially or communicatively impaired
and so, and these people were receiving services under that diagnosis,
desperately needed services they you know, that were required so
that they could lead the best lives to their ability.

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And now what we've looked at is a very constricting definition.
There's no such thing as Asperger's disorder anymore. It's everything
falls under autism spectrum discas well.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well. Isn't Aspergers considered still by the medical community as
being a lesser form of autism?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Correct? Would I would agree with that statement. Yeah, However,
somebody with Aspergers can function normally. I'll give you an example. Now,
my son told me when he was fourteen that he
was diagnosed with Aspergers. I'd never heard of it before,
and you know, after doing all the research I could
on it. You know, people by the way people with autism,
some people you'd look at and you say, you know,

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you'd never even recognize their autistic. And then you've got
to go all the way to the under other end
of the scale, where there's there's people that, you know,
children that are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, it may be weigh
one hundred to two hundred pounds, and you know, they
had the head butt. They you know, they kick, they scratch,
they break break bones, and they're uncontrollable. So you go

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from one end of the spectrum to the other, and
two thirds of the children actually are of the more
severe type of this autism. Spectrum UH disorder. And that's
that's what the CDC uses to determine autism spectrum disorder
UH and and so actually they actually looked at everything
you know, from Aspergers and everything.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
But you also say that the CDC has been lying
to the American people.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh, that's absolutely true. That's documented, and I bring instances
of that in the book. You know, they have gone
through a manipulation of you know, I'll go back to
Simpson Wood and through a Foyer request obtained by concerned parents.
It was doctor Boyle herself who was assistant director of
of the CDC and in the capacity she was and

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she suggested to the director of the CDC to manipulate
the data by including one in two year olds into
their into their studies, to water down and make it
look like there wasn't so much of an effect. And
you know, here's another thing, and we look at the
Vaccine Safety Data Link. Now, this is a large pool

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of information that keeps track of all the shots, the
reactions to the shots, and whatever in shots with or
without dimerisol, which was a huge, huge concern not all
that long ago, which is still in vaccine vaccines and
the in form of the flu shot today. Not all
have it, but some do, and it's still administered even

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to pregnant women. And so you know, you've got the
government in some cases. I cite a couple of studies
and some pub med studies in my book. I support
everything I say with fact and with studies. You know,
these aren't things I just make up, you know, I could.
I could spend several hours talking about things that aren't
even in the book. But what I do is I address

(19:59):
some of the things, like you concerned, as far as
government malfi essence. And let's look at a broader scale too.
Let's look at what the pharmaceutical industry is tied into this,
and let's look at the very laws that were established
to protect these agencies. I mean, you look at the
National Childhood Injury National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which was

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established in nineteen eighty six, and the Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program in nineteen eighty eight, clearly stated that we could
not sue these vaccine manufacturers for you know, even if
there was unavoidable side effects that resulted in injury or
death due to administration of these drugs. And that was

(20:43):
again snuck into a rider in the Homeland Security And
I'm sure you remember nine to eleven, everybody does you know?
I live here in the state of New York, and
George Bush signed into law the Homeland Security Act, And
within the Homeland Security Act was a rider actually under
the red hairing of national security protected these vaccine manufacturers.

(21:04):
And when as far as to say and reinforcing the
vaccine injury compensation programs, that's said, you know, even if
it's due to willful neglect. In other words, even if
that we are harmed purposefully either through a bad lot
and somebody dies or gets injured, we can't sue these
vaccine manufacturers. So they're protected by law by the government,

(21:26):
you know. And there's a fund for these people that's
actually funded by the vaccine by the they're paying exercise tax.
These vaccine manufacturers pay an exercise tax for every manufactured
vaccine seventy five cents per single shot and trivalent or
vaccines like measles and unsubella detap or charged two dollars

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and twenty five cents, which go into a fund to
compensate those victims of a vaccine injury.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now the victims, all right, but let me ask you,
let me ask you their how what is the percentage
of people who are vaccinated that suffer any ill effects?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Was it.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Five percent?

Speaker 5 (22:10):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's a great question. I don't have a definitive answer
for you.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So how can then just let me just let me
finish her? So then how can we go ahead and
keep slamming the government and big farm if we're not
sure of the statistics? That seems rather we're responsible.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
One thing. We are sure of the fact that it's
been you know, it's been documented that they have, uh,
they have lied to us, they have been deceptive. Uh,
they mitigate or are you are you?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Are you saying that autism is caused by vaccinations?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Well, you know what I'm gonna I'm going to step
right out here and open a can of worms. I'm
gonna say, Uh, there's reason, there's there's a plausible reason
to believe that in many cases they they have in fact, uh,
contributed to that neurological disorder. In fact, there was a case,
Wait a minute, there was there was a case that
was determined in the vaccine court child named Bailey Banks,

(23:08):
uh and what he what he had after he received uh,
you know, several vaccinations. Uh, he actually got a D
E M. You know, his eyes rolling back in the head, seizures,
and the neurologist determined that he did have in fact
a D e M uh and his his health was
compromised to a degree where you know, he would he

(23:31):
would be suffering. And I go into detail on this
in the book. Now here's a case where Master Abel
determined that the child's uh A d M, by the way,
is acute disseminated in cephalomyelitis. It was determined by Master
Abel that the A d M resulted in his as
a result of the vaccinations, resulted in his pervasive developmental

(23:51):
disorder not otherwise specified, which falls on the which falls
on the autism spectrum. Uh disorder, you know, falls within
that spectrum. So there's a case where you know in
that one instance that there is there is an issue
with these vaccinations cases.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
All right, So there is what there is one case
that we know of one case. There's just a second here,
Just a second, Just a second, John, John, Just a second.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Tell me about would you say the autism society knows
what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, it's it's funny. You mentioned them autism speaks. Is
that what you're talking about the autism Society? Okay, Now,
if we talk about the autism society, there's two sides
of that fence.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, No, I'm just okay, I'm just asking you if
I understand. They're an organization that is quite credible. They're
above board. They have done a lot of research and
this is what they claim to be a cause of autism.
There is no single cause for autism spectrum disorder, but

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it is generally accepted that it is caused by abnormalities
in the brain structure or function. Brain skins show differences
in the shape and structure of the brain in children
with autism compared to neotypical children neurotypical children. Researchers do
not know the exact cause of autism, but are investigating
a number of theories, including links among hereditary genetics and

(25:16):
medical problems. In many families, there appears to be a
pattern of autism or of related or related disabilities, further
supporting the theory that the disorder has a genetic basis.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Okay, let's look at genetics first of all. Let's look
at the prevalence and how it has gone from one
in ten thousand to one in sixty eight in some cases,
in some states it's one in twenty six. This does
not account for a genetic disorder. There's no such thing
as a genetic epidemic. That's not even possible.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
So the autism society is wrong.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, there's a lot of societies that are wrong. There's
a lot of organizations I list in my book specifically
that I side with that actually do help children. And
many of these foundations, by the way that you mentioned,
I'll mention autism speaks, I'll mention every child by two. Now,
these these societies, uh, you know, they're on the side

(26:15):
where there is nothing wrong with vaccinations. They absolutely have
nothing to do with any type of neurological disorders such
as autism, where in fact, there you know, there there
is study after study where we go back to again,
go just simply go back to thimerisol where there was
an issue with that and and it's the studies we do. Okay, Now,

(26:36):
if you're telling me that these vaccinations have nothing to
do with neurological disorders such as autism, I can tell
you there's no amount of studies or controls you can
put together to prove that because you know the best
thing we can do, and you know, ol Or and
Older mentioned that in their book and they said, you know,
we're talking about a nil hypothesis. In other words, I'll

(26:59):
use mercury as an example that mercury has nothing to
do and that was the thing, mercury has nothing to
do with autism. Well, you can't even really make that
statement and have it be plausible because there's no studies
in any amount of combination that you can show me
all the ways, show me all the ways and all
the possible ways and situations and scenarios that it doesn't

(27:23):
prove autism, and you can't do that. The best you
can do is hope to show one instance where it
actually does relate in neurological disorders such as autism, which
has been proven in the vaccine court. And so when
you do this one time, that leaves room for a
plausible room for possibility that there is a situation here.

(27:45):
Now you mentioned, okay, where there's a genetic issue. Okay,
well that does play a role, But I think the
far bigger role is an environmental issue, because if we
look at what we're doing and what we have done
in the last thirty years. We're introducing a lot of
environmental toxins into our children, and I talk about some

(28:07):
of these environmental toxins that go and maybe it's a
synergistic effect. I think the most likely candidate is what
we're doing because we have one of the most aggressive
recommended vaccine schedules in the entire country, I'm sorry, in
the world, and you know, there's others that don't and
they don't have the situations that we have here. I

(28:30):
think diet plays a role. I think genetically modified organisms
play role. I think aborted fetal cell lines player role.
I think there's a lot of doctors I mentioned in
the book that you know have theories, as you say,
we have a theory that make very compelling arguments, and
the fact is that they're not recognized by mainstream medical situations.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, but usually when people are not recognized, there's a
reason for that.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Well, there's a reason for that, and the reason for
that is, you know, it goes against the mainstream And
when we say, you know, I'll use I'll use this
as an example. You know, I can name some of
the doctors in the book here that you know they
say that there's an issue with these vaccinations. And you know, okay,

(29:19):
I'll look at doctor Wakefield as an example. Now, maybe
he did some things wrong, maybe he did a lot
of things wrong, but he didn't really hurt anybody. All
he suggested was there may be an issue with this
MMR vaccine and we needed to take a closer look
at it. And it's the same thing with the guyers
who really got lamb based it and crucified because they
stood out and said, no, wait a minute, this needs

(29:41):
to be looked at. And they went in to get
you know, do research in the Vaccine Safety Day Link
and they had to jump through hoops and in regards
to even getting in it was almost impossible. No external
research were even allowed into this Safety Data Link until
they were were the first two they got in there.
And once they got in there, uh, the information they

(30:04):
were granted was was manipulated by the government, by the
c d C. Actually and uh it was misrepresented, misrepresented
by the CDC when they went to an iom hearing.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, all right, this this is wonderful, This is all great,
but when it comes down to push and shove, okay,
you've got the people who you started off by saying,
bang it's the vaccines. Then it's now now it's just

(30:37):
you know, it seems that what we're talking about now,
it's it's because that the the he's going on, Craig, Craig,
can you shut that off please?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I got a little bit of ice going on.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
We got we got that cleared, you know, it's it's
we we I thought that we were talking about. It
seems like you've got something going on.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
In your computer, dif friend, Oh really.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
How's that? Is that better? Much better?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
We started off and we were pointing the finger at vaccines.
Now we're pointing the finger at the environment. Do we
really know or we just taking pot shots?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well? No, environmental means anything. A vaccine is environmental. Is
an environmental introduction into our immune system. That's an environmental.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Okay, all right, so I understand that now. So why
would I not believe the CDC and believe you when
the CDC says vaccines do not cause autism? They say
autism spectrum disorder is a developmental disability that caused by
differences in how the brain functions. People with ASD may communicate, interact, behave,

(31:59):
and learn in different ways. Recent estimates from the CDC's
Autism and Development Disabilities Monitoring Network found that about one
in sixty eight children have been identified with ASD in
communities across the United States. CDC is committed to providing
essential data on ASD, searching for the causes of and
other factors that increase the risk for ASD. There is

(32:23):
no link between vaccines and autism. Some people have had
concerns that ASD might be linked to vaccines children received,
but studies have shown that there is no link between
receiving vaccines and developing ASD. Why wouldn't I believe them?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, you know what, I go back to history too,
and let's go back to it was in two thousand
they had a Simpson Wood hearing the conglomerate of the
pharmaceutical companies and members from the CDC. You know, there
was an effect shown by doctor Verstratten that actually did
show an effect between these vaccinations and timeerosol in mercury,

(33:01):
and it was it was negated. It was watered down
by HMOs reduction of certain HMOs and information. But there
was even at that time there was a linear and
you know a significant statistical linear effect. But they what
they concluded from that was We really need to take

(33:23):
a look more so at these vaccinations. And you know,
here we have the most aggressive, the most aggressive vaccination schedule,
and we're giving these children. Maybe you can explain to
me why we're giving a hepatitis beach shot to you know,
the first sexually transmitted disease to a six month old child.
Maybe you can explain to me, why are we giving

(33:43):
forty nine different vaccines to children before they reach you know,
before they reach age of going to school. Why are
we giving sixty nine vaccinations to children before they're eighteen
years of age? You know, I didn't get that many
when I was when I was younger, certainly I didn't
get you know, a tenth.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Is well as though, you know, to have you ask why,
and if so, what's your answer, what's the answer you're given?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well, again, I'll go back to environmental causes, and most
most plausible causes is things were injecting into our body
and it's it's you know, and the thing is too
when we really take a look at these vaccines, there
are studies that show that they are harmful and they
are associated with neurological disorders, and especially in the case

(34:26):
of mercury, and that's one reason through the Modernization Act,
through public concern and pressure, that the government came out
and said to all these vaccine manufacturers, you have got
to get rid of thymerasol in these vaccinations. And the
only thing that was exempt was the flu shot. And
so to this day we still have the flu shot
with thimerasol in it. Now, let's go even to Marie McCormick,

(34:48):
who was on the Vaccine Safety Risk and Working Assessments
Group with the CDC, and you know, doctor Goldman did
a study which I cited and just the flu shot alone,
just the flu shot alone with thimerosol. You know, the
CDC didn't warn the dangers of this. They didn't they
didn't account and the category didn't categorically denied. With the

(35:10):
swine flu two thousand and nine twenty ten campaign, there
was a four and fifty percent increase in fetal in
stillburn and miscarriages and stillburn's. So this was denied categorically
by the CDC. And let's go to Kathleen Sibylius, the
former Health Secretary of Human Services, and she she also

(35:35):
stated that, you know, we're not going to give any
credibility to these people simply because you know that vaccines
are proven to be safe and effective. All right now,
if you're no, wait a minute, if you're telling me
that vaccines are safe and effective, I'm going to challenge
you on that, because yes, because effect.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well listen, I'm a father, I've got six kids, I've
got seven grandchildren. I have had all my vaccines. My
kids have had their vac scenes, my grandchildren have had
their vaccines. Everybody I know has had the vaccines. You
know what, none of them are autistic.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Wonderful, That's that's great. That's great. Now let's look at
all the people that have had their regular their shots
and their child has died as a result of a
baby wall visit. Let's take a look at the children
that actually do rerest into autism after a week.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
So all right, now, hold on here, Okay, I understand
you're on your you're on your orange crate, You're out there.
You want to make a difference at the end of
the day. Are you going to make that difference? I
believe so, I believe I have. Now is what difference have?
What difference have you made.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Simply simply educating people? As I educated myself on things,
I didn't know things that you know that are that
are hidden and not so much accentuated, and you're not
going to find by the way, you're not going to
find this information going basically to the internet. You know,
I spent a lot of time. I talked to a
lot of different people that know why you're talking about and.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And what what's what's your reasoning for doing what you're doing,
what's the story behind the story? What are you getting
out of this?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Ah? That's well, you know, okay, here I am. I'm
selling a book. I'm not going to become rich office
selling the book.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
You know, do you want to be looked at as
an expert?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Well, I'm sorry, what's that?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Do you want to be looked at as an expert
as a victim?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
No, I'm hardly an expert. I'm just a parent. I'm
just a concerned parent with an autistic.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Chang all right, But let me ask you this. Let
me ask you this. Yes, why would a parent buy
your book? You're not a doctor. You're just a person
who's You're just a person who has collected information. You
don't have an MD, you don't have a PhD, you
don't have a history of working in medical research.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Correct. So I'll tell you this, neither did stand Kurts okay.
And he had a son that was autistic. He's not
a doctor, he's not a scientist, he's not a research
sure of any kind. His son had autism, and the
doctors told him, your son will never be normal. But
he didn't take that answer. He said, no, my son
will be normal. And he took steps on his own.
He did research on his own. He transformed his son

(38:14):
from from you know, having severe manifestations of autism to
reversing the process to the point where you would not
even know that his son Ethan has autism. And so
parents can make a difference. And if we look at
all these individual organizations that I list in my book,
not all these are doctors or scientists. And I'll be

(38:36):
honest with you, some of these doctors and scientists, you know,
and where are they getting their paychecks from? Who are
they getting paid by? What motivations do they have to
say what they do? Well, let's take a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Let's take a look at that. All right, let's take
a look at that. God forbid, you're in a car accident.
Do you want somebody to write a who's written a
book on first daid to take care of you? Or
do you want a medical doctor who's spent four years
in school, then went another four years in in in residency,
in two years in an emergency ward. Who would you

(39:09):
rather have take care of you? Whose advice would you
listen to?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Well? I will answer that would by stating this, doctors
kill more people than anything in the United States. For
killing those four hundred thousand people a year. In some
cases they remove the wrong body part in some cases.
Why why are you?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Why are you so anti government? Why are you so
anti doctors?

Speaker 5 (39:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
There's there's something hidden here, There's something that you're hiding
behind And I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, No, I'm not. I'm not anti government.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I believe listen, you're you're anti You're anti what You're anti?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
You I'm anti. I'm not. Really. Here's here's my position.
We have the best government in the United States in
the entire world.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And did you say the CDC lies, Well, they.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Have It's been documented, Dave Love.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
All right, So how can you have you have the
best government in the world. How can you have the
best government in the world if the agency responsible for
the welfare I guess of the American people has been
lying to the people, and you've caught them, You've documented it.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
That's correct. So how I didn't document it? This was
documented before. I just brought it to light through what
I found. I saw some things that were very, very startling,
and I didn't know these things until I came across it.
And you know, I don't know that I need to
be a doctor to to to read. I don't think
I need to be a doctor to come across something
that that looks like, you know, supported by a study,

(40:38):
to bring that to light because these people that I
write about the book, they are experts, okay, and I
cite their studies.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yes, you see, that's that is that in itself is
troubling because you selected what you wanted in your book.
You see, an author can sway any argument his or
her way by what he selects or she selects to
put in her book. An author is very biased. The
fact that your son, and I'm very sorry to hear this,

(41:07):
had autism. You have written a book on autism. You
are using the selective research of those who support your view.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
I disagree. I disagree. I disagree on the fact that
I do not just point my view out. I look
at both sides of the issue. And this is one
thing that I got help from with my editor, Nick Bryant,
who's one of the best scientific researchers in the country.
He said, John, simply state the facts of everything there
and let the people decide for themselves which the way

(41:41):
they want to go. I look at both sides. I
cite studies from both sides, and quite frankly, this book
could have been a thousand pages long, but I wouldn't
read it if it were that long. You know. I
just give people enough information and if people just simply
take the time to look at it. And you asked
another question earlier. I mean, if anybody is having a child,

(42:02):
yes they should read this book because within the book
it's you know, I'm sorry, but parents are better doctors
than doctors are for their own children. You're going to
see a doctor and you're going to spend fifteen minutes
with that doctor. That parent is going to spend his
entire life with that child, and that parent is going
to know how medications are responding to the child. He's
going to know if the child gets sick, He's going

(42:24):
to know it he or she is going to know
it first. And really we are our own best doctors. Okay,
I don't trust anybody with my health. Okay, I've taken
the time, and not everybody does that. And we go
into a doctor's office and the first thing they want
to do. In most cases, a writer is a prescription
for things we shouldn't even get a prescription for. And
this is the way of our western medical thinking. Now,

(42:47):
going back to the whole point between autism and the
fact that it's a humongous program. We don't have enough
time to talk about all the issues in the book.
It just can't be covered in an hour. It certainly can't.
But we can recognize that there is, in fact a problem,
it is in fact documented. These aren't things I'm making up.
I'm not trying to sway anybody into my corner. In fact,

(43:08):
I would encourage anybody to read the book and correspond
with me. Talk to me, tell me where I'm wrong,
Show me where I'm wrong. Just show me. I cited
a study that's not good, Show me a bad one.
There are bad studies done on both sides of this fence.
You can make a study reflect anything you want. You can,
and so has the government done that many, many, many times.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
And yet you say, on one hand, the government has
you know, done evil by tainting these studies, and then
you say, you've got a great government, So how can
you have both sides of the coin showing up.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
I never really got a chance to finish what I
was saying. We do we Hey, listen, we have the
best system of government on the planet now as far
as I'm concerned. There's a lot of flaws with that system. Obviously,
maybe it's a lot, but it's the best crap we've
got right now. Okay, I'll look at it that way. Okay,

(44:05):
maybe it's the best crap we've got right now. And
there are so many things wrong, and let's look at
our individual rights. Those are being violated on a daily basis.
And it goes right with the vaccines. And in California,
you know, it was Richard pan who came out with
legislation recently to you know that mandatory vaccinations regardless of
no exemptions for children. And you know this is and

(44:28):
Jerry Brown is endorsing this position. And it's getting to
the point where all the CDC wants to do is
inoculate herd immunity now we're collateral damage. Some people will
never get autism as a results of a shot. I
agree with you. Some children will never get autism as
results of a shot. Again, I agree with that. Am
I saying we shouldn't get vaccinated. That's not what I'm saying.

(44:49):
What I'm saying is we should really have informed consent
as to what these things can do to us, and
we should have the right of whether we want to
be vaccinated or not. And that right is being a
wrote it on a daily basis. Children are getting hurt,
children are dying, not all of them, granted, but some are.
And it does not have to be that way. It
certainly does not have to be that way. There are

(45:11):
things we can do. And it's like this show we're doing,
this is beautiful. Now, I was reading something here. You've
got more listeners than some other shows, and you've been
doing this since nineteen ninety two, and you've got some
great credentials to your name, and I feel very honored
to be on your show. And maybe I'm not the
right guy to tell you this or argue with you. Hey, listen,

(45:32):
I'm not Moses. I don't have a stick, I don't
have Aaron standing behind me here. Yeah, but you know
I'm just and no I'm not a doctor. But aside
from that, I can see where there's a problem, and
the people that I've shared this information with me that
are experts and see where there's a problem. And again

(45:55):
it's not a matter of me choosing sides. It's reading
historical facts. Yes, all I do was historical fact and
I state studies and how they relate to our lives. Right,
So everybody else, if all.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
This information that that you've brought into your book, yes
that you believe is true, and you know I haven't
read it, so I can't make that determination.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
What I am saying though, why the discord within the
medical community. I believe based on some information my producer
found that it's a minority of the medical community that
is against vaccines and vaccination, where the majority of the

(46:42):
medical community sees the benefits of it.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Okay, I will point this out to you. The medical
community is not the scientific community is not self governing.
They don't you know, govern themselves. In fact, if you
take upon a study on your own, who's going to
fund this study? Who's going to fund the study? To
point out that there may be an issue with vaccinations.
Who's going to come out and do a long term

(47:09):
health related study to vaccines and whatever autism or any
neurological disorder and say, you know what, kids, you've got
a problem here. You're not going to get funding for it,
and if you try it, you're going to get ostracized.
You're going to lose your you're going to lose your
funding and possibly lose your ability to practice. And no
scientists in their right mind is going to step out
and do that unless you know they have a conscience

(47:33):
and they don't care what happens to them, but they
actually care more so about other people.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Have you had the opportunity to speak to any of
those scientists who were actually threatened with ostracization out of
the by a government agency or by big pharma.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Well, I've talked. I've spoken with doctor Teresa Diischer and
she's been getting some problems, and again I mentioned her
in the book. And you know, I focus on a
couple doctors that have been completely crucified and they've never
hurt anybody other than the fact that they brought it
to some people's attentions and to the pharmacistical's attentions. And

(48:10):
the CDC's attentions that these vaccines were an issue.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Did you contact the CDC and whoever was causing problems
for these doctors to get their side of the story.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
This was revealed. This was revealed to a degree, to
a large extent in the Oversight Committee on Government Reform
hearing in twenty twelve. And not many people are going
to take it time to go back and look at that,
but it was a three and a half hour hearing,
and there were some points brought up in the written
testimony that cited specific cases of this type of third rail.

(48:47):
People that take up third rail issues such as what
we're talking about here, they don't, you know, they run
into problems. It's much easier not to create waves. And
so I mean, if you're told, you know, hey, listen,
don't do that. And in the same case with Wakefield study,
you know, all they retracted his study because most of

(49:11):
the people that backed that study, they retracted their position
because they wanted to keep their jobs. And in fact,
to this day, Wakefield goes around saying how bad the
vaccinations are and how there is a correlation you know,
you know, he looks at and I'll go I won't
even get get into that in a great detail. I
talk about that in the book. But his partner, Walker

(49:33):
John Walker Smith was exonerated and it was a Judgmentting
determined that you know, they should really look at the
general medical counsel, the ones that took took their licenses
away in the first place. You didn't hear a lot
about that, but it was all over thront pages and
you know, accusations that were genesis by a reporter named

(49:53):
Brian Dere and he really, you know, he looked at
all these twelve children that they did a study on
and list that case by case in there. How these
were dubious accusations. So we have a case not just
the United States, but in the United Kingdom where any
doctor that stands out and wants to bring this to
light and wants to do this, they run into problems.

(50:16):
And again, let's look at even go go across the board,
look at everything, look at the bigger picture, look at
genetically modified foods. And r pot who came out and
said these genetically modified potatoes are doing something to these rats.
We shouldn't be eating his potatoes. He lost his funding
and you know he was ousted. This is not nothing new,

(50:41):
all right, And you know a lot of people are
are We're actually taught here in the United States and
in many other places that if you don't get a vaccination,
you're stupid. Okay, And that's fine. But and maybe it's
just me, but I don't think it is. And maybe

(51:02):
there are a minority of people that share a common
system of beliefs as I do. But you know, be
that what it may these things cause harm. There's different
delivery systems we could implement to make sure that if
the fact, you know, we don't have to have all
these toxic, toxic ingredients go into a vaccination to deliver

(51:22):
something an antigen, so that we can develop an immunity
to a disorder or a disease.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
All Right. I just like to cut in here because
I'd like to let our listeners know that they're listening
to the Starcom Radio Network. My name is Rob mcconnum.
My guest is John Hewitt, and we're talking about John's
new book entitled The Autistic Holocausts The Reason our Children
are getting sick.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
This is, according to the US government, causing risks of autism.
Most scientists agree that genes are one of the risk
factors that can make a person more likely to develop
ASD children who have a sibling with ASD or at
higher risk of also having ASD. ASD tends to occur

(52:05):
more often in people who have certain genetic or chromosomal conditions,
such as fragile x syndrome or tuberculosis. When taken during pregnancy,
the prescription drugs valpuric acid and thalidamite have been linked
with the higher risk of ASD. There is some evidence
that the critical period for developing ASD occurs before, during,

(52:29):
and immediately after birth. Children are born to older parents
are at greater risk for having ASD. ASD continues to
be an important public health concern. Like many families living
with ASD, CDC wants to find out what causes the disorder.
Understanding the factors that make a person more likely to
develop ASD will help us to learn more about the causes.

(52:52):
So there you go. It's not as if the CDC
is saying, hey, it's not my problem, who cares. Like,
according to the research that they've done and they're continuing to do,
they're taking this quite seriously. But they're adamant. They are
adamant that it has nothing to do whatsoever with vaccines
or terminal.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
All right, can I address one of the points you
just brought up and said the CDC sited is credible? Yep. Okay,
Let's look at that older parents have father children. Well,
there was a paper that was co authored by doctor
Diischer called the Impact of Environmental Factors of the Prevalence
of Autistic Disorders after seventy nine and that disputes that

(53:35):
the IACC's possible explanation for the sk skyrocketing rates of
autism today. The paper demonstrate that the fathers over the
age of forty had similar numbers of live bursts. There
were similar number of live bursts in nineteen sixty three
as they did in two thousand and one. Okay, but
the reported autism prevalence was zero point seven cases per

(53:57):
ten thousand and nineteen sixty three to seventy nine per
ten thousand and two thousand and one. So doctor Deischer
even concluded in Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute that parental age
was not a major trigger for autistic disorder. When godfathers
would have been fathering as many autistic children in nineteen
sixty three is two eight. Now I'm not going to

(54:18):
go every over point by point by point with you.
But these can be disputed by other studies, So you know,
we need to take a look at other and say,
all right, and let's go back to genetics. And yes,
there is an underlying issue with genetics. There is an
underlying issue with bipolar. I know I have a bipolar
disorder and it's it's it's stabilitating. And I didn't know

(54:38):
that if I had a bipolar disorder that my son
had a greater risk of coming down with an autistic
spectrum disorder. You just mentioned that schizophrenia schizophrenia as well.
But you know, and I'll go back to the current
situation and what accounts for this situation we're looking your
what you're suggesting is a genetic genetic epidemic and that

(55:00):
it's just not feasibly possible in time time frame that
we've seen the exponential problem problem.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Let me ask you, this is the autism problem one
in sixty eight around the world or only in the US.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Well, I know it in the US, it's one in
sixty eight, and it's different in different countries. We have
one of the highest autism prevalence rates in the world.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Is there autism in third world countries.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Absolutely, and I mean we go to Africa and and
it was brought up again in the OCGR hearing there
were tens of millions of cases of autism.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Okay, now let me ask you this. Let me ask
you this. Okay, just taking that thought one step further,
did all the children or the parents in Africa receive
the vaccines?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
It was brought it was brought to my attention what
I when I listened to the congressional hearing that and
it was a statement was made by Congressman Posey that said,
prior to the introductions of vaccines in Africa, it was
ever even heard of. Although we can make an argument
on the other side of that that accounts for the
rise in autism as well. And there may be other

(56:09):
environmental factors involved in that. There may you may be
talking genetically contributory factors in that as well. And I'm
not an expert on everything in the entire world, but
I can tell you the rates different in different parts
of the world and where they where they have the highest. Uh,

(56:31):
you know, the most aggressive vaccine recommended vaccine schedules that
it correlates to a higher prevalence in the autism spectrum disorders.
So you know, I can't tell you everything about Africa.
I can tell you there's a there's a very large
problem with autism in Africa. This this really is a

(56:52):
pandemic problem. It's not just in the United States, it's worldwide.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Okay, But if we look at what I what I'm
looking at here is you're saying that because of vaccines,
this is why we're having the autism problem in the
United States. This is what's causing it. And yet there
are countries that do not enforce vaccines where there are

(57:19):
people with autism. So how can we say that the
vaccines are the culprit in this case?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
What we can say is that and again we got
to look at history. We've got to look at it.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
No, no, no answer answer this question. It's a very simple question.
How can we say that autism is caused by vaccinations
if there are countries where people are not receiving the
vaccinations and they are they are autistic.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
We have the same thing here. We have autism that
has caused you know, autism is going to happen, and
it has happened for quite some time. But my question
is why is it such a problem Now, what do
we doing now that is making this rate higher and higher?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
It's very simple. It's very simple, right, because the population
is growing. It's simple. The more people you have, the
more of anything you're going to have. Well, the numbers
aren't going to decrease, they're going.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
To increase relative. Now wait a minute, everything's relative because
we want to do it that way. Then let's go
back to nineteen seventy.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I hate to do this, but we're out of time
for tonight. I want to thank you so much for
joining us. I don't know. I don't buy it. I
really don't. I just don't buy it. I have a
problem with it because there are countries on this planet

(58:44):
that do not get any medical vaccinations whatsoever, and yet
there are cases of autism. You know, I just don't
understand the logic. And I've found out over the years
that authors can sway author is right because something has

(59:07):
ticked them off when it comes to certain topics. And
this is a topic that is very dear to him
because of his son and his own problems. He's looking
for answers. God, I give him. I give him credit
for that. He's looking for answers. But there's three sides

(59:30):
to every story. You know, this ex own nation as
well as I do. They're his side, her side, and
the truth. And I think that in many cases when
it comes to when it comes to trying to reason
on why things are happening, like we can't say, God,

(59:52):
why did this happen to me? In fact, many people
say that no matter what happens to them, God, why
did you know? Why is this happening to me? God
had nothing to do with it. You were the were
the results of your own actions. You know, cause and effect.
It's that simple. I have had every one of my
children vaccinated. I know my children have had their children vaccinated.

(01:00:18):
All my friends have had their children vaccinated. Not one
of their children, My children or my friend's children's are autistic.
By the way, before the nineteen forties, no one ever
heard of autism. My name is Rob McConnell. This is

(01:00:38):
the Xxon, a place where people dare to believe as
you've heard, and dare to be heard. And I'll be
back on the other side of the top of the
hour as we continue here in the X Zone with
yours truly, Rob McConnell, live and around the world on
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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Rob McConnell Interviews - JON MICA - The Autistic Holocaust