September 13, 2025 • 57 mins
Karin Wilkinson, the talented author behind the “Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest” is an extraordinary individual. Her personal experiences as an alien abductee and survivor have shaped her unique perspective, infusing her writing with a profound sense of authenticity. Karin's groundbreaking research into the phenomenon of alien abductions has allowed her to shed light on a subject often stigmatized or dismissed by mainstream society. With a relentless dedication to uncovering the truth and offering solace to other abductees, Karin Wilkinson has carved a prominent place for herself in the world of literature and paranormal research. Her novels serve as both gripping works of fiction and a source of hope and understanding for those who have encountered similar inexplicable encounters.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All hnry.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the X Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Now here's your host, Rob Kanno.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
This's got to be a morning of. If we can
hold on through the night, we have a chance to
find the sunshine. Let's keep on looking for the lond Oh,
(00:54):
can't you see the morning of?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Welcome back everyone, This is the Extoni Am. I'm Rob McConnell,
and we're still coming to you from our broadcast center
and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, and you're listening to
us on your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty and around
the world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. In this
hour ex oonation, my guest is Karen Wilkinson. We're going
to be speaking to Karen about her book entitled Stolen Seed,
(01:21):
Evil Harvest. She is a UFO abductee, survivor and researcher,
and her website is Karen Wilkinson Author dot com. And
joining me now is Karen Wilkinson. Karen, Welcome to the XON.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Hi, Rob, thank you. I am so happy to be
here with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, it's great having you with us. Tell us a
little bit about yourself and what led up to your
book Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Sure, thank you. You know, I have experienced what some
might call a classic non human abduction scenario my entire life.
From as young as I can remember, I was being
taken and it was just such you know, it's such
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such a hard thing to deal with, And I had
a near death experience where that was also a very
scary experience, and I went through some PTSD therapy to
deal with that, and in doing that therapy it also
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helped me deal with this lifetime of just terrible experiences
with these entities. And once I had done that, I
was able to really start processing it and decided to
share my account with a good now good friend, La Marzouli,
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And so I shared that with him and it became
sort of the temp pole for his fourth movie in
the UFO Disclosure series on UFO abductions. So that's where
it started something I never thought I would do. You know, Rob,
these are not the kind of things people want to
hear about you, not the type of thing that's easy
to talk about, that's for sure. Well.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
First, first of all, I applaud you for coming out
and sharing this information, not only with La, but with
the world because I believe there are a lot of
many people out there who have had these experiences or
experience like these, but because of the social stigma attached
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to it, or people attach a woo woo factor in it,
they just keep it to themselves. And I believe that
by keeping these experiences to themselves, they're doing more harm
than good to themselves, and they should share this information
so that other people will know that they're not alone
and they too will come forward and get help.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Absolutely, I one hundred percent agree with you. And Yeah,
while it was terrifying and very difficult at first to
share this and it still is, but it's getting a
little easier as I go along, I really felt led
to do it. And once I shared with La and
that movie came out, I started hearing from people meeting
people and talking to people who were in very similar circumstances,
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who were in almost identical circumstances, and they just wanted
someone to talk to about it. They wanted someone who
wasn't going to think they were crazy. I mean, I
never expected La to be as receptive and responsive to
me when I was speaking with him, and that was
just such a weight lifted off to me, to know
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that someone actually listened to me and didn't call me crazy,
but understood that what I was saying was the truth
and he could tell I was telling the truth. And
then to meet all these other people with the same situation,
I thought, I need to take this a step further,
to share this in another way. And that's when I just,
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you know, I really it led to write and I
just wrote the truth. I wrote what happened, and as
a way to kind of help start that conversation, to
make it to kind of try to remove some of
that stigma and make it okay, you know, to let
people know they're not alone, that this really is happening
and it's happening to so many people.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Can you share with our listening audience what type of
experiences you've had with these entities and how it started
and what a typical encounter was like for you?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Absolutely, you know they From as young as I can remember,
I was being taken. My earliest memories are of waking
up at night terrified because these entities, these bulbous head
typical what people typically describe as gray alien entities with
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the bulbous heads, the big screen looking vacuums, black eyes,
they this thin, spindly bodies. Just they exuded just evil.
I mean you could just they were scary. I was
so scared as a little kid. And they would show
up night after night so often when I was little,
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and sometimes at the foot of the bed, sometimes beside
the bed, sometimes out the window, you know, looking in.
And you know, I would try to find ways to
hide when I was little. You know, I thought if
I could get a suitcase and put it under the
bed and get in it and zip it up, maybe
they couldn't find me. You know, they always found me.
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There was just no way to hide, and I felt helpless,
and I felt like there was nothing I could do.
I just had to kind of give into it. And
so in a typical abduction scenario for me was that
I would be put into what's commonly referred to as
sleep paralysis state where I was fully aware, but I
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couldn't move, I couldn't respond to react, and at that
point sometimes I would just be switched off, like to sleep,
almost but not every time that point when I was awake,
the ones that I remember, I would be levitated, levitated
off of a bed like something out of a scary movie,
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and through a ceiling or out a closed window, which
you know sounds just beyond possible, but they're dealing with
with physics and science and understanding that we don't have,
you know, we're dealing with entities that are so far
advanced from us. And so at that point, it would
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just feel this almost vibration kind of feeling in my
body like I was going into a million pieces when
I'd go up through a ceiling or out a window.
You know, it's like my whole body changed at that point,
and this is happening over and over again. So it's
not like a one off thing where that could have been,
you know, just a random dream or something. These weren't dreams.
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They were very real. Sometimes I would you know, wet
the bed because I'm so scared as soon as they
showed up. That happened a lot, or I'd be brought back,
my pajamas would be inside out, you know, I'd come
back with marks on my body. But back to the
process that Sometimes there would be a light that I
would see myself going into a light kind of just
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very bright, very very direct. I don't remember there always
being a light though, and then I would usually be
switched off kind of put to sleep at that point
and wake up on a table. Typically when I was little,
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I'd wake up sometimes on a table being examined, and
they would do all kinds of invasive examinations, you know,
some things with needles, and I don't know what they
were taking from my body or putting into my body
with the needles. Some things were like big X ray
type machines. But you know, I didn't know what they were. A.
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I was just a little little kid, and B they
weren't explaining what they were doing to me. They you know,
they didn't care if I'm what I was feeling, obviously,
And sometimes I would be sitting they would have me
in a room with other little children, like sitting it
on the table with weird shaped blocks. Sometimes when they
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were coloring books too, which was odd coloring books and
crowns and things have been very odd shaped blocks and
weird toys, not like the toys we had in school.
And it wasn't desks like we had at school. It
was just big tables with little chairs around them. And
some of the kids weren't normal, and some were most
of us were scared or just not very responsive. And
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typically at that point, you know what, they would do
what they wanted for that particular abduction, and then I
would wake up back in my bed, tired, thirsty, confused, scared. Yeah,
all the things you can imagine as a little kid.
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And this just went on and on throughout my life. Obviously,
the things that they did changed as I got older,
but that would be a that's a typical scenario that
I would go through.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
When you returned back to your home and you woke
up in your bed, did you go to your parents?
And if you did, how did your parents react to
the horrible situation that you were describing to them?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Sure? Yeah. I would often go into their room and
they would not be happy that I was waking them up.
So I learned to just crawl under their bed to sleep.
And when I did try to talk to them about
what was happening, I didn't have the right words to
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tell them. You know, as a small child, I didn't
have great communication skills. Plus I didn't know what these
things were, you know, and they thought I was just
having bad dreams or making things up.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But you would come home and you would have marks
on your body, your pajamas would be inside out. Didn't
that raise concern with your parents. I know that if
any of my children or grandchildren or great grandind children
came to see me and they told me about a
dream they that I thought they were having and they
and they would say no, Papa, look and showed me marks,
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I would be very concerned.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Sure. Yeah, And now you know the funny thing is
is I was trying to explain to them what was happening.
And didn't you know, back then, we didn't have UFO movies.
I didn't know what these things were. I didn't know
how to describe them. I kept saying, the little ones
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kept coming to get me. They were touching me, they
were bothering me, and my mom thought maybe it was
something at school, because they found me in school. It
was like kindergarten. They found me in the corner of
a bathroom stall, just cuddled up, rocking, holding my knees,
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and you know, I kind of just had a breakdown.
I couldn't take it anymore. It was just too much,
and I tried to explain what was happening, and they
just thought it was maybe other kids. So they took
me to the doctor and the doctor examined me, and
I had some bruises, and I had a weird bonemark
on my back which nobody could explain. But they didn't,
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you know, they weren't looking for something from a supernatural realm.
And I couldn't explain how that got there. And he
said that whatever happened, you know, I was little, and
physically I was fine, and I would probably I would
forget it, you know, I wouldn't remember as I grew up,
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and just to take me home and I would be fine.
And I just kind of gave up trying to explain it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Karen, Karen, I'm going to let I've got to take
that break here, but I you know, I can tell
that this is affecting you, and I just want you
to take a little bit of a breather and we'll
be back on the other side of this break.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Okay, Okay, thank you, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Explanation. Karen Wilkinson is my guest. Karen Wilkinson, author dot com.
She's the author of Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. She's a
UFO abductee, survivor and researcher. And we'll be back on
the other side of this break as the Excelle continues
with yours truly, Rob McConnell from our broadcast center and
studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario on your Hometown Classic Classic
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twelve twenty and we're streamed around the world on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. We'll be back. Don't go away.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Then we have a chance to find the sunshine.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Let's final word love.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Me.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Welcome back to everyone. This is the excell and I
am Rob McConnell, and we're coming to you from our broadcast
center in studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, on your
Hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. And the X Radio
Show is here on Classic twelve twenty Monday through Friday
at ten pm Eastern until midnight. My I guess this
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hour is Karen Wilkinson and she's the author of a
book that comes from her heart. It's based on her
personal experiences and she believes that it is very important
that this message gets out there to people who may
have had similar experiences, to let them know that they
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are not alone. The name of the book is Stolen Seed,
Evil Harvest, and Karen is a UFO abductee survivor and researcher,
and her website is Karen Wilkinson author dot com Karen.
Before we went to the break, I could tell that
this is a very emotional story for you.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yeah, it really is, thank you, Rob. It's you know,
because it's been a lifetime of trying to figure out
how to deal with this and put this in one
place and then have a normal life outside of what's
happened and what was happening. So it definitely it goes
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outside of There's no one. There's no one to go
talk to about this. There aren't you know, it's not
something that anyone ever talked about growing up. And I
was told by these entities as well to stop talking,
to stop trying to talk to the teachers at school,
or my parents, or my friends or anyone else. They
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were not happy that I was trying to get help,
that I was trying to tell people what was happening,
and they threatened me and to get me to stop
talking about it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Now, previously you said that that this may have been
something to do with a supernatural realm. Now are we
talking about the supernatural realm or are we talking about
ets here or are they one and the same.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yes, I believe that they are one and the same.
I really believe that what we're dealing with our entities
that are able to exist in our realm and in
other realms, we're dealing with entities that are far more
advanced than we are, that have been here a lot
longer than we have, that have abilities and understandings of
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physics and technology and things that we haven't even begun
to understand, and that have probably helped our humanity and
society along the way with a lot of the advancements
that we have seen in the last one hundred years
or so.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Now, when you're abducted, how do they communicate with you?
Is it a thought transference? Is it telepathy? Do they
verbally speak that you can actually hear them? How is
the communication done?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Generally, it was through basically like a telepathy, a thought thing.
Could hear them speaking to me in my mind, and
sometimes I would verbally speak back, and sometimes I would
just think back what I wanted to say. There were
when I was taken. There were different types of entities,
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and there were humans there too, but I never talked
to the humans. They weren't ever supposed to interact with
the people that were being taken from my experience. I
can't speak for anyone else but from what I saw
and from what happened to me. So yes, to answer
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your question, it was generally all sort of a telepathy thing.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
In the information you sent us, I read something that
touched me and it said that you said, for as
early as I can remember, I have been abducted by
non human alien entities, possibly hundreds of times. I have
seen many UAPs UFOs throughout my lifetime and suffered emotional
and physical ailments due to the things they did to me.
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I pray that I can utilize my experiences to glorify God,
to share the truth, and to help others in any
way I can. That's very deep. That to me says
this is what I've experienced. I know the pain, I
know the suffering, and I want to help you.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Thank you. Yeah, that is exactly the message I want
to send across that. You know. I want to make
it okay for people to talk about this, you know,
I want to share that if someone comes to you
and says, I've had this weird stuff happening to me,
these things happen over the course of my life, or
this happened to me I have this memory when I
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was little for people to just listen and listen with
an open mind and an open heart. And I want
to share too with people how I was able to
stop it, because I did figure out, you know, for me,
how I was able to stop it, and that's worked
for many others who I've spoken with as well. And
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I think it's important to let people know that there's
hope and there is a way to get out of
this and just stop it from happening.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know, this show's tag is where people dare to
believe and dare to be heard. And I've always had
this idea that this is the safe place for people
like you and other people who have had other experiences
can come and openly talk about it without the fear
of ridicule or criticism, because there are so many unknown
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things that are happening to people out there that they
feel as if they have to stay in a closet
because no one will believe me. They'll think I'm crazy,
They'll think I'm sick, They'll think that I'm just doing
this for attention, when in fact they have had a
real experience that they cannot understand. So tell me, how
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do you stop this from happening. What did you do
to get your life back in order?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yes, well, thank you for saying that, and thank you
for having a safe place.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's my pleasure.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah. I think it's just so important. There just aren't
enough places for people to talk about things like this
and to know that they'll be listened to and heard,
and that you know it is safe. I was when
I was eighteen, around eighteen years old, my roommates and
I found a church and I became a Christian. And
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this was something very new to me, and it was
very exciting to me because I finally found a place
where I felt a love and a level of just
acceptance and protection beyond anything I could have ever imagined.
Unconditional love, unconditional love. And while I was in that
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part of my life and believing and living that life,
they these entities stopped visiting me, they stopped taking me,
they stopped harassing me. But I fell away from that faith.
I got married to someone who was not a man
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of faith and did not accept my faith, and so
I was just used to doing what I was told.
I had been conditioned and groomed by these entities from
the time I was a very small child, and so
following orders was something I was comfortable with, and so
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I fell away and it started again. But I never
forgot that, and later in life, I many many years,
you know, a few decades later, I found my way
back to that faith, and I realized there's a hierarchy
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among these entities, and there's one who was at the
top of that hierarchy, and that's Jesus, that is God,
that is our creator. And when I.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Called on him, he was there.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
He was there, and they left, and they left me alone,
and you know, they kept trying to come back and
trying again, and I kept calling on Jesus and every
time without fail and smiling as I say this instead
of crying. But I'm crying in a good way. It's
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topped in the I was just over the moon. You know.
It was one of the greatest things I could have.
It was answered prayers and it happened. I found my
way back to my faith after I had a near
death experience, which was another amazing, miraculous experience that happened
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in my life that I felt just love and peace
that we don't have anything like it here. There is
just no way to describe it. And yeah, I had
lost my way, but he never left me. You know, it.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Sounds like your life is a living testament to the
fight of good and evil that so many of us
have read about in biblical times, where you know, you
had God versus Satan, Jesus versus Satan, and it seems
that you were in the middle of a tug of
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war until that you decided, Hey, I don't want these
entities anymore. I don't want to have my life in
turmoil anymore. And when you went back to your faith
Jesus God that they had the power, they put that
power in you, and the entities knew it, and they
just left.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You alone, exactly exactly. And it's a battle that never stopped,
and it's a battle that's being fought by so many
that so many humans people are stuck in the middle
of that are stuck in that tug of war. And
that's one of the most important things that I want
to share is that that tug of war doesn't you know,
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that's always going to be out there, that's going to
be happening. But we don't have to be pulled by
the dark side, by the fallen ones in this anymore.
That we haven't We have a savior who is on
our side and is willing to fight for us. I
didn't have to fight anymore, and that was the most
amazing part.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Are you okater?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Oh? Yes, yes, okay, great.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You mentioned two dates in your book Roswell in nineteen
forty seven, and a lot you know, I'm sure the
ninety five percent of everybody listening to this broadcast tonight
on Classic twelve twenty is well aware of what the
Roswell event of nineteen forty seven is. But you also
talk about the Granada Treaty. What is that about?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yes, yeah, I mentioned those two dates because yes, a
lot of people are familiar with Roswell, and it kind
of sets up the fact that our government has known
about this for a very long time, and we all
and suddenly recently that they've known about this for a
very long time. And the Granada Treaty is another one
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of those shadowy events like Roswell, where supposedly there was
an agreement made between the powers that be, whether it
be your government or a shadowy offshoot of our government
or a secret group or agency, that gave these entities
permission to take humans and to take animals and to
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experiment on them and to abduct them and to do
what they would with them. And I think it's really
important to share that. You know, this is our government,
the people, the powers to be, the leaders, those in
charge and control have known about this for a long
time and have created this false stigma that people like
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me are crazy when they've been involved in it all along.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You and I have to take a very fast break here,
so please stand by. When do we come back, Let's
continue this interesting and touching story. It almost seems, Karen,
that the government is in bed with Satan.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yes does doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It sure does. We'll talk more on the other side
of this break as we continue hearing the X Zone
from our broadcast center in studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
and your world, and you're listening to us right here
on Classic twelve twenty streaming around the world on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. My name is Rob mcconnellan. If
you'd like to send us a namail, tell us what
you think about Karen's story. Tell me have you had
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an experience of abduction? Are you looking for help? Yes,
there is a solution and we'll help you find it
just email xone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Don't go away, good to make a change for once
in mind life.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
It's gonna be real good, gonna make a difference, gonna
make it a run.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And as I turned up the corn a feed of
a winter cold.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The swing is a blue in my mind. See okays
in the street, but not enough tweet?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Who am I to be blind? Buttending not to see them?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Son us?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The string up a broken bottle.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Time and one then and welcome back everyone. This is
the excell and I'm Rob McConnell, coming to you from
our broadcast center in studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada
and Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the world on
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. This hour is Karen Wilkinson
and Karen is the author of Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest
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her website Karen wilkinsonauthor dot com. And she is a
UFO abductee, survivor and researcher who wants to help those
who have had experiences like hers, who feel as if
they need to hide it, they need to keep it
away from those who love them, who they believe will
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not understand the experience. Well, Karen says, you're not alone.
It is happening, and Karen, thank you for joining us. Again.
We were talking before we went to the break about
the Granada Treaty. What is that again?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
So the Granada Treaty was a treaty that there's still
a lot of question around that, and documentation that's been
released about it is very very redacted. Of course, that
treaty was a treaty made by members of our country,
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whether it was the government directly or an offshoot of
the government. This is where groups like the Majestic Twelve
come into play for those who might be familiar with
that group, which was a group of people put in
place to work with and deal with things like the
Roswell incident, and they gave with this treaty supposedly gave
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permission for these entities to take people and experiment on them,
abduct them, to experiment on animals, abduct them things that
we now see today as cattle mutilations. Other animals and
people have even been found in that same circumstance drained
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of blood, certain organs and body parts and things miss saying,
and so that permission was given to them to do
these things by someone.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
You share what you call as a near death experience
in your book. What happened and how does this tie
into your book?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Sure? Yeah, When I was having one of the many
surgeries that I've had to kind of reconstruct and hold
my body together for all kinds of anomalous bone issues
and things that I've had, I was in an operating
room waiting to be operated on, but I wasn't hooked
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up to any machines or anything yet. I just had
two IV ports in my arm. But I was already
in the actual operating room. There were a couple of
nurses walking around, just you know, doing the things that
they do to get ready for the surgery, and my
doctor was in another room getting things ready, and an
anesthesiologist walked in and leaned over from She had a
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white lab coat on with a pocket, a breast pocket
full of syringes. She pulled one of those syringes out,
pushed it into my IV port, and just turned and
walked away. Didn't ask me if how that made me feel,
If I was okay, and it was supposed to have
been a sedative as far as I knew, She gave
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me a paralytic and walked away from me. And I
know they used paralytics and surgery, but that's when you're
hooked up to machines that are breathing for you, and
you have people watching you, and that type of thing.
I wasn't hooked up to anything yet. I was alone
and I couldn't move, I couldn't breathe. My body felt
like it was made out of cement. I couldn't gesture
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to anyone, I couldn't breathe. I suffocated. I was suffocating
to death on the table. And as I lay there dying,
I heard a voice in my head, as clear as day, saying,
it's okay, you can let go now, I'm with you,
and I just the blink of an eye was out
of my body and I felt the most incredible, amazing
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love and peace. There are not words to describe it.
We don't have anything like it here. It was beyond belief.
And I could see and hear everything going on in
the operating room and in the surrounding rooms. The walls
didn't prevent me from seeing. I could see what my
doctor was doing, and I was still me, I still
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had my personality. That was the most amazing part to me.
I had no fear, I just had peace. And I
watched them when they realized that I was lying there
dead on the table. I watched them try to bag me,
to resuscitate me. I watched the process of them finally
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intubating me, and then once they got me breathing again,
it ended just as quickly as it again and I was,
you know, back in my body and asleep, and they
went on with the surgery. But it was just the
actual process that led up to the to that was
so just so terrifying that I had to go through
PTSD therapy. God, and as I mentioned earlier, to get
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through it, and that's what helped me to actually be
able to then deal with this lifetime of these heinous abductions.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I've got two questions to ask you. I've had a
number of surgeries myself, and one of the first things
that they've all was done was hooked me up to
a monitoring system from my oxygen levels and as well
as my cardio levels. Yes, then, you know, and there
has always been somebody in the o r with me.
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I find it amazing that you were left alone in
an operating room by yourself.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know they it was almost as if
it was planned.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Well, that was my next question. The person who injected you,
were they actually member of the hospital staff number one?
And if they weren't, how could they do what they
did to you without any any repercussions.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Yeah, I don't know, and we couldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I never saw her again. I couldn't find her name
in any of the paperwork. I contacted probably one hundred
lawyers trying to get help. I didn't want anything from
the hospital. I just wanted someone to help me pay
for therapy because it was very expensive and no one
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would touch it. No one would touch.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
It, unbelieved.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Have folders and folders and folders of paperwork about this,
and none of it makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know, something else that a lot of people say
is that these aliens are well being benevolent space brothers
who wish to bring light and enlightenment to humanity. Now,
with all you've gone through, God bless you for what
you've gone through, and thank you for sharing this. Do
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you agree with this opinion?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Thank you for your kind words. No, I absolutely do
not agree with your opinion. I don't feel that abducting
little children and adults and people against their will is
benevolent behavior. I don't feel that I was you know,
I was raped, I was abused, I was groomed, I
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was basically trafficked within that you know, organization, if you
want to call it that, and all of that was
against my will, and not just me, but other people,
the other people that I saw there and that happening too.
So that's not benevolent behavior, especially with the little children.
That's what breaks my heart the most of all.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Why do you think that government is letting this happen?
Why do you think they're so hush hush about it?
Why don't they admit it? Number one? Number two help
the people that have been affected by this phenomenon, and
number three stop it. If they've been complicit in a
signing of an agreement that would allow a foreign entity,
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whether it is supernatural or whether it is from somewhere
out in the great beyond, well why do they just
turn their back and say, ah, not us don't look
this way right?
Speaker 5 (38:36):
A couple of reasons. A. I think they're into deep
with entities that are way too powerful for them to not.
Only so, I don't think that they actually have much
of a choice as to whether they were to say
we want to discontinue this agreement.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Now, Karen, I'm going to ask you to re repete
what you just said, because as you were talking, something
or someone was trying to interfere with our signal from you.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Oh dear, okay, can you hear me now?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I can hear you now, So if you could repeat
what you said about the government.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Sure, I believe that they are in too deep with
entities that are way too powerful, and if they wanted
to get out of this deal or stop it, or
you know, end any agreements they'd made, there's no way
that they could. They don't have enough power over these
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entities to do that. These entities are much more powerful
and much more advanced than they are, so they're not
you know, you're not dealing on an even playing field here.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Wait, I think yeah. When we were getting ready to
go on here, you and I were talking about there
are times when there seems to be interference or somebody
doesn't want you to get your message out there. And
I just found it so strange that somebody or something
actually tried to disrupt our communication.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yes, yeah, it happens so often, and strange things happen,
and probably about between thirty and fifty percent of the
interviews I tried to do it either get have to
be postponed or aren't able to even go forward. So
I'm always grateful when we're actually able to be together
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and speak and it's yeah, it's they're not happy that
I'm talking. Obviously there have been attempts on my life
and their attempts on my safety, but I'm not afraid.
I can't be afraid because I know that I'm protected
by a higher power, and I know that that you
know I'm in this to share this information. It's too important.
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It's too important. If they're trying that hard to stop me,
then that just makes me work that much harder to
share this message and to speak louder and try harder
and work harder to share with more people and to
reach more people, because obviously I'm doing something right.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
What kind of attempts on your life have you had?
And I've got about a minute before I have to
go to my break.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Oh sure, yeah, I mean, I you know, obviously, with
the near death experience, I believe that that was a
preemptive attempt to try to keep me from from starting
this journey, you know, because at that point I was
I was really trying to start dealing with this and
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working on this, and then I have had just crazy
things where just cars going pulling out right in front
of me, and I don't know how it is divine intervention,
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but half a dozen times that I have I don't
even know how I haven't hit these cars and just
crazy things like that that make no sense. It's just
obviously it's I've had health issues. I had a brain tumor.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Okay, we're going to have to hold it there because
we have to go for this heartbreak. When we come back,
I'd like to talk to you about some of the
health issues that you've had that you've been able to
attribute to the Oh my gosh, I don't know what
to call it, the events that you've had in your life,
whether they be with the supernatural or with the ETS
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x oanation. I guess This hour is Karen Wilkinson, and
she's a UFO abductee, researcher and survivor. Fascinating story. This
is the ex soonal place for people dared to believe
and dare to be heard, coming to you from our
broadcast center in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario on Classic
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twelve twenty and around the world on Classic twelve twenty
dot CA. So we'll be back on Holmer.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Can you got your up.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Swaying at the music? Stars strangers making the most of
the darg.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
To but to the bodies become.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I see you the smoky.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Can be and welcome back to the XON. Wow. This
is Rob Mcconnell'll come to you from our studios in
Saint Catharine's on Classic twelve twenty and around the world
on Classic twelfth twenty dot CA. My guess this hour
is an incredible person x O Nation. Her name is
Karen Wilkinson. Her website Karen Wilkinson Author dot com. She's
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the author of a book that is Going that tells
it as it is, Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. She's a
UFO abductee, survivor and researcher. First of all, Karen, I
want to thank you so much for coming on the
show and for sharing this this these experiences with the
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x O Nation tonight, because I am positive Karen, that
there are people listening tonight who will say, Wow, it
is real. Really happened to me. I wasn't imagining it.
How does that make you.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Feel, Karn, Well, thank you, Robert, No that you know.
It makes me sad that it's happened to them, but
it makes me happy that they can know that they're
not alone. And I have a section on my website
where people can reach out to me. You can send
me a message, and I respond to every message that
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I receive. It's not always right away, because I do
get a lot of them, but I do absolutely take
the time to get to each and every person, which
is why it takes a while sometimes, because I want
people to know they can reach out to me, even
if they just want to share their story and let
have someone to just kind of get this out with
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and to have someone let them know that it's okay.
I believe you. I understand where you are, and it's
important to me that you know that you know there's
someone out there who cares. So I just want to
let people know that you can reach out to me,
and I will get back to you as soon as
I can.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Karen, do you believe that these experiences that you've experienced
run in families?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
I do.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
I do believe that there are a couple of components
to that I do believe there's a genetic component that
they're looking for, very specific genetic material that is compatible
that they can utilize, which is one of the same
reasons why you see cattle mutilations, which I'll bring into that.
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But once once you find ali, I'm an OH negative
blood type, that's a very compatible blood type. I can
give blood to anyone. I can't receive it from anyone
else except OH negative, but I can give blood to anyone.
And the genetic lineage is very important to them, and
they reiterated that to me over and over again during
my abductions. And then you know, obviously they seem to
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have a much much longer life span than we do.
So once you find a compatible genetic specimen as we're treated,
because they really don't treat it as like people. They
treat us like specimens and things, then you want to
continue that within that family line. You're going to be
able to find more, you know, other members of that
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family who will possibly have that same blood type and
the genetics that are as compatible as well. So I
believe that's one reason it runs in family lines, and
I believe another reason is because of the activities of
certain family members where those family members have given permissions
for them to take their family members, whether it be
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involvement in Satanic groups and certain Masonic groups and things
like that that just seem to have some sort of
a strange tie in into this phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
When you look back on your life and all the
experiences that you've had with these entities, what do you
believe their true intentions are.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah, that's a good question. I believe that their intentions
are to interfere with the human population and to lead
people away from the truth by touting themselves as our
ancestral cedars or as our benevolent space brothers. That pulls
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people away from the truth of our actual creator God,
and it pulls people away from the truth of who
we are and where we came from. And it gives
them an opportunity to go back to something that goes
back to the Bible, our Christian Bible, to Genesis three,
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to the Garden of Eden, when the Nakashins say is
in the garden of Eden, and he says, you know,
God is in the garden with him, and it says
or Jesus and says, your seed will be at enmity
with the seed of the woman, and you will bruise
his heel and he will crush your head. That sets
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up a seed war that is going on still today.
And initially that seed war was to try to stop
the savior Jesus from being born. But they didn't know
what line from the tribes, from the twelve tribes, Jesus
would come from. So that is when in Genesis six
it talks about how they felt, how the sons of God,
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which these are the watcher angels, found the daughters of
men beautiful and took for them wives of all that
they chose, and had offspring with them. These were called
the nepheline mighty been of old right, and that's going
on still today. It's just a different, a different manner
because in Daniel Too and Daniel I leave its chapter two,
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it says, you know that in the days, in the
last days and the times before Jesus comes, you know
they'll do this again. They will take them, but they
won't cleave to them. They won't have these contracts like
they had back in the days of Genesis six, these
marriage contracts. And that's exactly what's happening. They're taking women.
They took eggs from me they take sperm and eggs
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oven from other women and men, and they implanted these
embryos into me and then took them before the end
of the first trimester, before my body could reject it.
And I write a great deal about that in the book,
and it's one of the most heart wrenching and difficult
things that I ever wrote about. It's very hard to
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talk about and very hard to write about. But I
believe that they're still in that same sea board to dilute,
you know, to create a modern day nepheline.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
I want to ask you a question, and I'm not
The question is not meant to doubt you, so please sure, okay,
with all that you've had happened to you, have you
made any official reports to police, to doctors, to anyone
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where you could say, well, listen, I'm not crazy. It
really did happen. Check this out. I went to this
police department, I filed this, you know, this report with
this governmental agency. I've asked for hospital records to confirm
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (51:39):
Sure, you know, who would I what would I say
to the police? I mean, A, well, A, it's not happening. Now,
there's no way for me to do that now. But
when I had the fetuses missing, I was in the hospital.
They did dncs. They confirmed there was no baby, no heartbeat,
and no fetal tissue. But I had just I have
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been with my my obg yn up to that point
confirming these pregnancies, confirming that that baby was there. And
I told them in the hospital, you can talk to
my doctor, this baby was there, right, And what did
They don't do anything?
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Okay, So if you've got proof that you were pregnant, mh,
you have this encounter of an ungodly type, your fetus
is removed, you have proof that the hospital says, sorry,
there's nothing there, right. You know, to me, that would
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be a very strong case of somebody missing the ball
and raising alarms all over the place.
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Well, this has been reported by the government in a
report that they call nonmalists acute and subacute effects on
human and biological tissues. And they actually report our government
that these missing pregnancies are a result of exposure to
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UAPs and non human entities. So they know what's going on,
but there's nothing for.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Me to do about it, all right. If they know
this is going on, Karen, why all this big hubbub
about the congressional hearings. If if it's already enormous and
established fact.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
If that's a really good question. I don't you know,
there's all these reports out there that these are Anyone
can look that report up. It came out in the
report was released in twenty twenty two, so it wasn't
very long ago. And you know, Tucker Carlson, I think,
interviewed Gary Nolan in August of twenty twenty and they
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talked about different anomalous injuries like this that have been reported,
and you know, there just isn't any interest in it.
It doesn't seem well. I find so many women in
the same position.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I find it really funny because everybody in the UFO
community is screaming for a smoking gun and they have
one and they're not using it.
Speaker 5 (54:15):
But I don't have the baby. I don't have the
fetal tissue, but you do have the I want to
say your body. You know, well, you lost that baby
and you didn't realize it.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
But how many times did this happen to you? Well?
Speaker 5 (54:28):
I have three confirmed that happened, and then many others.
Because I stopped going to the obg y N until
I got to a certain point because it was just
too heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
I understand that, I understand that in my heart, my
heart goes to you, It really does. But when the
government says, oh, yeah, we know it's you. You you
you were giving us the title of an article or
something that was issued by the government that basically said
the h we know that this is happening as a
result of interaction with a UAP. If the government it
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already has that information, how come move on and other
organizations that claim to be the heroes and the the
knights in shining armor for the UFO community, don't take
this information and run with it.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
Yeah, Moufon was actually involved in putting the list of
seventy seven. I think it was effects, physical and psychological
effects together.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
For that report. So if Moufon already gave this information
to the US government, the US government has already read
it and issued it. Something doesn't make sense here.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
No, none of it makes sense, does it?
Speaker 2 (55:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (55:39):
None of it makes sense. And there's always an excuse,
there's always a well. And there are a lot of
people out there who will approach someone like me. And
I have met so many women who've gone through this,
robbed so many and they say you are having a
psychotic delusion. This never happened, and they leave it right there,
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and that's the end of it.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Speaking about the end of it, our time is coming
up very short. We have about a minute left. First
of all, Karen, thank you so much. Let our listeners
know how they can find out more about you and
where they can get a copy of your book.
Speaker 5 (56:13):
Oh, thank you so much, Roby. I wish we had
more time. The book was available exclusively right now at
lamarzuli dot net. That's l A m A r z
U l l a dot net. And you can find
that link on my website which is Karen Wilkinson author
dot com, which I have given you for the show notes.
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And you can find me on Facebook at Karen Wilkinson.
Just my name Karen with an I Wilkinson with eyes,
so you can find me there and all the links
will be there as well. And you know, I just
encourage anyone if you need, if you just need to
talk or want to share your story, you know, just
please reach out to me. I'm not a therapist and
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nothing like that. I'm just a fellow experiencer who wants
to be there and sharing this and just for comfort
if I can.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Karen, we'll have to get you back on in the
future because we do have still so much to talk about.
But until then, thank you so much. It's been a
great pleasure talking to you and dexonation. That's it for
me for tonight. I'll be back tomorrow night at ten
o'clock as once again we cross the time space continuum
to this place that I call the X Zone. So
from everyone here at the X Zone to everyone out there,
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take care of yourself, be careful, and always remember to
keep your eyes to the sky and your heart to
the light. Good Night, everyone,
All hnry.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the X Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Now here's your host, Rob Kanno.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
This's got to be a morning of. If we can
hold on through the night, we have a chance to
find the sunshine. Let's keep on looking for the lond Oh,
(00:54):
can't you see the morning of?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Welcome back everyone, This is the Extoni Am. I'm Rob McConnell,
and we're still coming to you from our broadcast center
and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, and you're listening to
us on your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty and around
the world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. In this
hour ex oonation, my guest is Karen Wilkinson. We're going
to be speaking to Karen about her book entitled Stolen Seed,
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Evil Harvest. She is a UFO abductee, survivor and researcher,
and her website is Karen Wilkinson Author dot com. And
joining me now is Karen Wilkinson. Karen, Welcome to the XON.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Hi, Rob, thank you. I am so happy to be
here with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, it's great having you with us. Tell us a
little bit about yourself and what led up to your
book Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Sure, thank you. You know, I have experienced what some
might call a classic non human abduction scenario my entire life.
From as young as I can remember, I was being
taken and it was just such you know, it's such
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such a hard thing to deal with, And I had
a near death experience where that was also a very
scary experience, and I went through some PTSD therapy to
deal with that, and in doing that therapy it also
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helped me deal with this lifetime of just terrible experiences
with these entities. And once I had done that, I
was able to really start processing it and decided to
share my account with a good now good friend, La Marzouli,
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And so I shared that with him and it became
sort of the temp pole for his fourth movie in
the UFO Disclosure series on UFO abductions. So that's where
it started something I never thought I would do. You know, Rob,
these are not the kind of things people want to
hear about you, not the type of thing that's easy
to talk about, that's for sure. Well.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
First, first of all, I applaud you for coming out
and sharing this information, not only with La, but with
the world because I believe there are a lot of
many people out there who have had these experiences or
experience like these, but because of the social stigma attached
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to it, or people attach a woo woo factor in it,
they just keep it to themselves. And I believe that
by keeping these experiences to themselves, they're doing more harm
than good to themselves, and they should share this information
so that other people will know that they're not alone
and they too will come forward and get help.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Absolutely, I one hundred percent agree with you. And Yeah,
while it was terrifying and very difficult at first to
share this and it still is, but it's getting a
little easier as I go along, I really felt led
to do it. And once I shared with La and
that movie came out, I started hearing from people meeting
people and talking to people who were in very similar circumstances,
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who were in almost identical circumstances, and they just wanted
someone to talk to about it. They wanted someone who
wasn't going to think they were crazy. I mean, I
never expected La to be as receptive and responsive to
me when I was speaking with him, and that was
just such a weight lifted off to me, to know
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that someone actually listened to me and didn't call me crazy,
but understood that what I was saying was the truth
and he could tell I was telling the truth. And
then to meet all these other people with the same situation,
I thought, I need to take this a step further,
to share this in another way. And that's when I just,
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you know, I really it led to write and I
just wrote the truth. I wrote what happened, and as
a way to kind of help start that conversation, to
make it to kind of try to remove some of
that stigma and make it okay, you know, to let
people know they're not alone, that this really is happening
and it's happening to so many people.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Can you share with our listening audience what type of
experiences you've had with these entities and how it started
and what a typical encounter was like for you?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Absolutely, you know they From as young as I can remember,
I was being taken. My earliest memories are of waking
up at night terrified because these entities, these bulbous head
typical what people typically describe as gray alien entities with
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the bulbous heads, the big screen looking vacuums, black eyes,
they this thin, spindly bodies. Just they exuded just evil.
I mean you could just they were scary. I was
so scared as a little kid. And they would show
up night after night so often when I was little,
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and sometimes at the foot of the bed, sometimes beside
the bed, sometimes out the window, you know, looking in.
And you know, I would try to find ways to
hide when I was little. You know, I thought if
I could get a suitcase and put it under the
bed and get in it and zip it up, maybe
they couldn't find me. You know, they always found me.
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There was just no way to hide, and I felt helpless,
and I felt like there was nothing I could do.
I just had to kind of give into it. And
so in a typical abduction scenario for me was that
I would be put into what's commonly referred to as
sleep paralysis state where I was fully aware, but I
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couldn't move, I couldn't respond to react, and at that
point sometimes I would just be switched off, like to sleep,
almost but not every time that point when I was awake,
the ones that I remember, I would be levitated, levitated
off of a bed like something out of a scary movie,
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and through a ceiling or out a closed window, which
you know sounds just beyond possible, but they're dealing with
with physics and science and understanding that we don't have,
you know, we're dealing with entities that are so far
advanced from us. And so at that point, it would
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just feel this almost vibration kind of feeling in my
body like I was going into a million pieces when
I'd go up through a ceiling or out a window.
You know, it's like my whole body changed at that point,
and this is happening over and over again. So it's
not like a one off thing where that could have been,
you know, just a random dream or something. These weren't dreams.
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They were very real. Sometimes I would you know, wet
the bed because I'm so scared as soon as they
showed up. That happened a lot, or I'd be brought back,
my pajamas would be inside out, you know, I'd come
back with marks on my body. But back to the
process that Sometimes there would be a light that I
would see myself going into a light kind of just
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very bright, very very direct. I don't remember there always
being a light though, and then I would usually be
switched off kind of put to sleep at that point
and wake up on a table. Typically when I was little,
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I'd wake up sometimes on a table being examined, and
they would do all kinds of invasive examinations, you know,
some things with needles, and I don't know what they
were taking from my body or putting into my body
with the needles. Some things were like big X ray
type machines. But you know, I didn't know what they were. A.
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I was just a little little kid, and B they
weren't explaining what they were doing to me. They you know,
they didn't care if I'm what I was feeling, obviously,
And sometimes I would be sitting they would have me
in a room with other little children, like sitting it
on the table with weird shaped blocks. Sometimes when they
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were coloring books too, which was odd coloring books and
crowns and things have been very odd shaped blocks and
weird toys, not like the toys we had in school.
And it wasn't desks like we had at school. It
was just big tables with little chairs around them. And
some of the kids weren't normal, and some were most
of us were scared or just not very responsive. And
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typically at that point, you know what, they would do
what they wanted for that particular abduction, and then I
would wake up back in my bed, tired, thirsty, confused, scared. Yeah,
all the things you can imagine as a little kid.
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And this just went on and on throughout my life. Obviously,
the things that they did changed as I got older,
but that would be a that's a typical scenario that
I would go through.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
When you returned back to your home and you woke
up in your bed, did you go to your parents?
And if you did, how did your parents react to
the horrible situation that you were describing to them?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Sure? Yeah. I would often go into their room and
they would not be happy that I was waking them up.
So I learned to just crawl under their bed to sleep.
And when I did try to talk to them about
what was happening, I didn't have the right words to
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tell them. You know, as a small child, I didn't
have great communication skills. Plus I didn't know what these
things were, you know, and they thought I was just
having bad dreams or making things up.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But you would come home and you would have marks
on your body, your pajamas would be inside out. Didn't
that raise concern with your parents. I know that if
any of my children or grandchildren or great grandind children
came to see me and they told me about a
dream they that I thought they were having and they
and they would say no, Papa, look and showed me marks,
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I would be very concerned.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Sure. Yeah, And now you know the funny thing is
is I was trying to explain to them what was happening.
And didn't you know, back then, we didn't have UFO movies.
I didn't know what these things were. I didn't know
how to describe them. I kept saying, the little ones
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kept coming to get me. They were touching me, they
were bothering me, and my mom thought maybe it was
something at school, because they found me in school. It
was like kindergarten. They found me in the corner of
a bathroom stall, just cuddled up, rocking, holding my knees,
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and you know, I kind of just had a breakdown.
I couldn't take it anymore. It was just too much,
and I tried to explain what was happening, and they
just thought it was maybe other kids. So they took
me to the doctor and the doctor examined me, and
I had some bruises, and I had a weird bonemark
on my back which nobody could explain. But they didn't,
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you know, they weren't looking for something from a supernatural realm.
And I couldn't explain how that got there. And he
said that whatever happened, you know, I was little, and
physically I was fine, and I would probably I would
forget it, you know, I wouldn't remember as I grew up,
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and just to take me home and I would be fine.
And I just kind of gave up trying to explain it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Karen, Karen, I'm going to let I've got to take
that break here, but I you know, I can tell
that this is affecting you, and I just want you
to take a little bit of a breather and we'll
be back on the other side of this break.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Okay, Okay, thank you, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Explanation. Karen Wilkinson is my guest. Karen Wilkinson, author dot com.
She's the author of Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. She's a
UFO abductee, survivor and researcher. And we'll be back on
the other side of this break as the Excelle continues
with yours truly, Rob McConnell from our broadcast center and
studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario on your Hometown Classic Classic
(14:08):
twelve twenty and we're streamed around the world on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. We'll be back. Don't go away.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Then we have a chance to find the sunshine.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Let's final word love.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Me.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Welcome back to everyone. This is the excell and I
am Rob McConnell, and we're coming to you from our broadcast
center in studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, on your
Hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. And the X Radio
Show is here on Classic twelve twenty Monday through Friday
at ten pm Eastern until midnight. My I guess this
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hour is Karen Wilkinson and she's the author of a
book that comes from her heart. It's based on her
personal experiences and she believes that it is very important
that this message gets out there to people who may
have had similar experiences, to let them know that they
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are not alone. The name of the book is Stolen Seed,
Evil Harvest, and Karen is a UFO abductee survivor and researcher,
and her website is Karen Wilkinson author dot com Karen.
Before we went to the break, I could tell that
this is a very emotional story for you.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yeah, it really is, thank you, Rob. It's you know,
because it's been a lifetime of trying to figure out
how to deal with this and put this in one
place and then have a normal life outside of what's
happened and what was happening. So it definitely it goes
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outside of There's no one. There's no one to go
talk to about this. There aren't you know, it's not
something that anyone ever talked about growing up. And I
was told by these entities as well to stop talking,
to stop trying to talk to the teachers at school,
or my parents, or my friends or anyone else. They
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were not happy that I was trying to get help,
that I was trying to tell people what was happening,
and they threatened me and to get me to stop
talking about it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Now, previously you said that that this may have been
something to do with a supernatural realm. Now are we
talking about the supernatural realm or are we talking about
ets here or are they one and the same.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yes, I believe that they are one and the same.
I really believe that what we're dealing with our entities
that are able to exist in our realm and in
other realms, we're dealing with entities that are far more
advanced than we are, that have been here a lot
longer than we have, that have abilities and understandings of
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physics and technology and things that we haven't even begun
to understand, and that have probably helped our humanity and
society along the way with a lot of the advancements
that we have seen in the last one hundred years
or so.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Now, when you're abducted, how do they communicate with you?
Is it a thought transference? Is it telepathy? Do they
verbally speak that you can actually hear them? How is
the communication done?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Generally, it was through basically like a telepathy, a thought thing.
Could hear them speaking to me in my mind, and
sometimes I would verbally speak back, and sometimes I would
just think back what I wanted to say. There were
when I was taken. There were different types of entities,
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and there were humans there too, but I never talked
to the humans. They weren't ever supposed to interact with
the people that were being taken from my experience. I
can't speak for anyone else but from what I saw
and from what happened to me. So yes, to answer
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your question, it was generally all sort of a telepathy thing.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
In the information you sent us, I read something that
touched me and it said that you said, for as
early as I can remember, I have been abducted by
non human alien entities, possibly hundreds of times. I have
seen many UAPs UFOs throughout my lifetime and suffered emotional
and physical ailments due to the things they did to me.
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I pray that I can utilize my experiences to glorify God,
to share the truth, and to help others in any
way I can. That's very deep. That to me says
this is what I've experienced. I know the pain, I
know the suffering, and I want to help you.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Thank you. Yeah, that is exactly the message I want
to send across that. You know. I want to make
it okay for people to talk about this, you know,
I want to share that if someone comes to you
and says, I've had this weird stuff happening to me,
these things happen over the course of my life, or
this happened to me I have this memory when I
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was little for people to just listen and listen with
an open mind and an open heart. And I want
to share too with people how I was able to
stop it, because I did figure out, you know, for me,
how I was able to stop it, and that's worked
for many others who I've spoken with as well. And
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I think it's important to let people know that there's
hope and there is a way to get out of
this and just stop it from happening.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know, this show's tag is where people dare to
believe and dare to be heard. And I've always had
this idea that this is the safe place for people
like you and other people who have had other experiences
can come and openly talk about it without the fear
of ridicule or criticism, because there are so many unknown
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things that are happening to people out there that they
feel as if they have to stay in a closet
because no one will believe me. They'll think I'm crazy,
They'll think I'm sick, They'll think that I'm just doing
this for attention, when in fact they have had a
real experience that they cannot understand. So tell me, how
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do you stop this from happening. What did you do
to get your life back in order?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yes, well, thank you for saying that, and thank you
for having a safe place.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's my pleasure.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah. I think it's just so important. There just aren't
enough places for people to talk about things like this
and to know that they'll be listened to and heard,
and that you know it is safe. I was when
I was eighteen, around eighteen years old, my roommates and
I found a church and I became a Christian. And
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this was something very new to me, and it was
very exciting to me because I finally found a place
where I felt a love and a level of just
acceptance and protection beyond anything I could have ever imagined.
Unconditional love, unconditional love. And while I was in that
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part of my life and believing and living that life,
they these entities stopped visiting me, they stopped taking me,
they stopped harassing me. But I fell away from that faith.
I got married to someone who was not a man
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of faith and did not accept my faith, and so
I was just used to doing what I was told.
I had been conditioned and groomed by these entities from
the time I was a very small child, and so
following orders was something I was comfortable with, and so
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I fell away and it started again. But I never
forgot that, and later in life, I many many years,
you know, a few decades later, I found my way
back to that faith, and I realized there's a hierarchy
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among these entities, and there's one who was at the
top of that hierarchy, and that's Jesus, that is God,
that is our creator. And when I.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Called on him, he was there.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
He was there, and they left, and they left me alone,
and you know, they kept trying to come back and
trying again, and I kept calling on Jesus and every
time without fail and smiling as I say this instead
of crying. But I'm crying in a good way. It's
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topped in the I was just over the moon. You know.
It was one of the greatest things I could have.
It was answered prayers and it happened. I found my
way back to my faith after I had a near
death experience, which was another amazing, miraculous experience that happened
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in my life that I felt just love and peace
that we don't have anything like it here. There is
just no way to describe it. And yeah, I had
lost my way, but he never left me. You know, it.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Sounds like your life is a living testament to the
fight of good and evil that so many of us
have read about in biblical times, where you know, you
had God versus Satan, Jesus versus Satan, and it seems
that you were in the middle of a tug of
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war until that you decided, Hey, I don't want these
entities anymore. I don't want to have my life in
turmoil anymore. And when you went back to your faith
Jesus God that they had the power, they put that
power in you, and the entities knew it, and they
just left.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You alone, exactly exactly. And it's a battle that never stopped,
and it's a battle that's being fought by so many
that so many humans people are stuck in the middle
of that are stuck in that tug of war. And
that's one of the most important things that I want
to share is that that tug of war doesn't you know,
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that's always going to be out there, that's going to
be happening. But we don't have to be pulled by
the dark side, by the fallen ones in this anymore.
That we haven't We have a savior who is on
our side and is willing to fight for us. I
didn't have to fight anymore, and that was the most
amazing part.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Are you okater?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Oh? Yes, yes, okay, great.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You mentioned two dates in your book Roswell in nineteen
forty seven, and a lot you know, I'm sure the
ninety five percent of everybody listening to this broadcast tonight
on Classic twelve twenty is well aware of what the
Roswell event of nineteen forty seven is. But you also
talk about the Granada Treaty. What is that about?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yes, yeah, I mentioned those two dates because yes, a
lot of people are familiar with Roswell, and it kind
of sets up the fact that our government has known
about this for a very long time, and we all
and suddenly recently that they've known about this for a
very long time. And the Granada Treaty is another one
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of those shadowy events like Roswell, where supposedly there was
an agreement made between the powers that be, whether it
be your government or a shadowy offshoot of our government
or a secret group or agency, that gave these entities
permission to take humans and to take animals and to
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experiment on them and to abduct them and to do
what they would with them. And I think it's really
important to share that. You know, this is our government,
the people, the powers to be, the leaders, those in
charge and control have known about this for a long
time and have created this false stigma that people like
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me are crazy when they've been involved in it all along.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You and I have to take a very fast break here,
so please stand by. When do we come back, Let's
continue this interesting and touching story. It almost seems, Karen,
that the government is in bed with Satan.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yes does doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It sure does. We'll talk more on the other side
of this break as we continue hearing the X Zone
from our broadcast center in studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
and your world, and you're listening to us right here
on Classic twelve twenty streaming around the world on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. My name is Rob mcconnellan. If
you'd like to send us a namail, tell us what
you think about Karen's story. Tell me have you had
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an experience of abduction? Are you looking for help? Yes,
there is a solution and we'll help you find it
just email xone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Don't go away, good to make a change for once
in mind life.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
It's gonna be real good, gonna make a difference, gonna
make it a run.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And as I turned up the corn a feed of
a winter cold.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The swing is a blue in my mind. See okays
in the street, but not enough tweet?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Who am I to be blind? Buttending not to see them?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Son us?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The string up a broken bottle.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Time and one then and welcome back everyone. This is
the excell and I'm Rob McConnell, coming to you from
our broadcast center in studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada
and Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the world on
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. This hour is Karen Wilkinson
and Karen is the author of Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest
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her website Karen wilkinsonauthor dot com. And she is a
UFO abductee, survivor and researcher who wants to help those
who have had experiences like hers, who feel as if
they need to hide it, they need to keep it
away from those who love them, who they believe will
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not understand the experience. Well, Karen says, you're not alone.
It is happening, and Karen, thank you for joining us. Again.
We were talking before we went to the break about
the Granada Treaty. What is that again?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
So the Granada Treaty was a treaty that there's still
a lot of question around that, and documentation that's been
released about it is very very redacted. Of course, that
treaty was a treaty made by members of our country,
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whether it was the government directly or an offshoot of
the government. This is where groups like the Majestic Twelve
come into play for those who might be familiar with
that group, which was a group of people put in
place to work with and deal with things like the
Roswell incident, and they gave with this treaty supposedly gave
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permission for these entities to take people and experiment on them,
abduct them, to experiment on animals, abduct them things that
we now see today as cattle mutilations. Other animals and
people have even been found in that same circumstance drained
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of blood, certain organs and body parts and things miss saying,
and so that permission was given to them to do
these things by someone.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
You share what you call as a near death experience
in your book. What happened and how does this tie
into your book?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Sure? Yeah, When I was having one of the many
surgeries that I've had to kind of reconstruct and hold
my body together for all kinds of anomalous bone issues
and things that I've had, I was in an operating
room waiting to be operated on, but I wasn't hooked
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up to any machines or anything yet. I just had
two IV ports in my arm. But I was already
in the actual operating room. There were a couple of
nurses walking around, just you know, doing the things that
they do to get ready for the surgery, and my
doctor was in another room getting things ready, and an
anesthesiologist walked in and leaned over from She had a
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white lab coat on with a pocket, a breast pocket
full of syringes. She pulled one of those syringes out,
pushed it into my IV port, and just turned and
walked away. Didn't ask me if how that made me feel,
If I was okay, and it was supposed to have
been a sedative as far as I knew, She gave
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me a paralytic and walked away from me. And I
know they used paralytics and surgery, but that's when you're
hooked up to machines that are breathing for you, and
you have people watching you, and that type of thing.
I wasn't hooked up to anything yet. I was alone
and I couldn't move, I couldn't breathe. My body felt
like it was made out of cement. I couldn't gesture
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to anyone, I couldn't breathe. I suffocated. I was suffocating
to death on the table. And as I lay there dying,
I heard a voice in my head, as clear as day, saying,
it's okay, you can let go now, I'm with you,
and I just the blink of an eye was out
of my body and I felt the most incredible, amazing
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love and peace. There are not words to describe it.
We don't have anything like it here. It was beyond belief.
And I could see and hear everything going on in
the operating room and in the surrounding rooms. The walls
didn't prevent me from seeing. I could see what my
doctor was doing, and I was still me, I still
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had my personality. That was the most amazing part to me.
I had no fear, I just had peace. And I
watched them when they realized that I was lying there
dead on the table. I watched them try to bag me,
to resuscitate me. I watched the process of them finally
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intubating me, and then once they got me breathing again,
it ended just as quickly as it again and I was,
you know, back in my body and asleep, and they
went on with the surgery. But it was just the
actual process that led up to the to that was
so just so terrifying that I had to go through
PTSD therapy. God, and as I mentioned earlier, to get
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through it, and that's what helped me to actually be
able to then deal with this lifetime of these heinous abductions.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I've got two questions to ask you. I've had a
number of surgeries myself, and one of the first things
that they've all was done was hooked me up to
a monitoring system from my oxygen levels and as well
as my cardio levels. Yes, then, you know, and there
has always been somebody in the o r with me.
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I find it amazing that you were left alone in
an operating room by yourself.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know they it was almost as if
it was planned.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Well, that was my next question. The person who injected you,
were they actually member of the hospital staff number one?
And if they weren't, how could they do what they
did to you without any any repercussions.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Yeah, I don't know, and we couldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I never saw her again. I couldn't find her name
in any of the paperwork. I contacted probably one hundred
lawyers trying to get help. I didn't want anything from
the hospital. I just wanted someone to help me pay
for therapy because it was very expensive and no one
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would touch it. No one would touch.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
It, unbelieved.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Have folders and folders and folders of paperwork about this,
and none of it makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know, something else that a lot of people say
is that these aliens are well being benevolent space brothers
who wish to bring light and enlightenment to humanity. Now,
with all you've gone through, God bless you for what
you've gone through, and thank you for sharing this. Do
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you agree with this opinion?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Thank you for your kind words. No, I absolutely do
not agree with your opinion. I don't feel that abducting
little children and adults and people against their will is
benevolent behavior. I don't feel that I was you know,
I was raped, I was abused, I was groomed, I
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was basically trafficked within that you know, organization, if you
want to call it that, and all of that was
against my will, and not just me, but other people,
the other people that I saw there and that happening too.
So that's not benevolent behavior, especially with the little children.
That's what breaks my heart the most of all.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Why do you think that government is letting this happen?
Why do you think they're so hush hush about it?
Why don't they admit it? Number one? Number two help
the people that have been affected by this phenomenon, and
number three stop it. If they've been complicit in a
signing of an agreement that would allow a foreign entity,
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whether it is supernatural or whether it is from somewhere
out in the great beyond, well why do they just
turn their back and say, ah, not us don't look
this way right?
Speaker 5 (38:36):
A couple of reasons. A. I think they're into deep
with entities that are way too powerful for them to not.
Only so, I don't think that they actually have much
of a choice as to whether they were to say
we want to discontinue this agreement.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Now, Karen, I'm going to ask you to re repete
what you just said, because as you were talking, something
or someone was trying to interfere with our signal from you.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Oh dear, okay, can you hear me now?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I can hear you now, So if you could repeat
what you said about the government.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Sure, I believe that they are in too deep with
entities that are way too powerful, and if they wanted
to get out of this deal or stop it, or
you know, end any agreements they'd made, there's no way
that they could. They don't have enough power over these
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entities to do that. These entities are much more powerful
and much more advanced than they are, so they're not
you know, you're not dealing on an even playing field here.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Wait, I think yeah. When we were getting ready to
go on here, you and I were talking about there
are times when there seems to be interference or somebody
doesn't want you to get your message out there. And
I just found it so strange that somebody or something
actually tried to disrupt our communication.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yes, yeah, it happens so often, and strange things happen,
and probably about between thirty and fifty percent of the
interviews I tried to do it either get have to
be postponed or aren't able to even go forward. So
I'm always grateful when we're actually able to be together
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and speak and it's yeah, it's they're not happy that
I'm talking. Obviously there have been attempts on my life
and their attempts on my safety, but I'm not afraid.
I can't be afraid because I know that I'm protected
by a higher power, and I know that that you
know I'm in this to share this information. It's too important.
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It's too important. If they're trying that hard to stop me,
then that just makes me work that much harder to
share this message and to speak louder and try harder
and work harder to share with more people and to
reach more people, because obviously I'm doing something right.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
What kind of attempts on your life have you had?
And I've got about a minute before I have to
go to my break.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Oh sure, yeah, I mean, I you know, obviously, with
the near death experience, I believe that that was a
preemptive attempt to try to keep me from from starting
this journey, you know, because at that point I was
I was really trying to start dealing with this and
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working on this, and then I have had just crazy
things where just cars going pulling out right in front
of me, and I don't know how it is divine intervention,
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but half a dozen times that I have I don't
even know how I haven't hit these cars and just
crazy things like that that make no sense. It's just
obviously it's I've had health issues. I had a brain tumor.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Okay, we're going to have to hold it there because
we have to go for this heartbreak. When we come back,
I'd like to talk to you about some of the
health issues that you've had that you've been able to
attribute to the Oh my gosh, I don't know what
to call it, the events that you've had in your life,
whether they be with the supernatural or with the ETS
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x oanation. I guess This hour is Karen Wilkinson, and
she's a UFO abductee, researcher and survivor. Fascinating story. This
is the ex soonal place for people dared to believe
and dare to be heard, coming to you from our
broadcast center in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario on Classic
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twelve twenty and around the world on Classic twelve twenty
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Speaker 3 (44:05):
Can be and welcome back to the XON. Wow. This
is Rob Mcconnell'll come to you from our studios in
Saint Catharine's on Classic twelve twenty and around the world
on Classic twelfth twenty dot CA. My guess this hour
is an incredible person x O Nation. Her name is
Karen Wilkinson. Her website Karen Wilkinson Author dot com. She's
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the author of a book that is Going that tells
it as it is, Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. She's a
UFO abductee, survivor and researcher. First of all, Karen, I
want to thank you so much for coming on the
show and for sharing this this these experiences with the
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x O Nation tonight, because I am positive Karen, that
there are people listening tonight who will say, Wow, it
is real. Really happened to me. I wasn't imagining it.
How does that make you.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Feel, Karn, Well, thank you, Robert, No that you know.
It makes me sad that it's happened to them, but
it makes me happy that they can know that they're
not alone. And I have a section on my website
where people can reach out to me. You can send
me a message, and I respond to every message that
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I receive. It's not always right away, because I do
get a lot of them, but I do absolutely take
the time to get to each and every person, which
is why it takes a while sometimes, because I want
people to know they can reach out to me, even
if they just want to share their story and let
have someone to just kind of get this out with
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and to have someone let them know that it's okay.
I believe you. I understand where you are, and it's
important to me that you know that you know there's
someone out there who cares. So I just want to
let people know that you can reach out to me,
and I will get back to you as soon as
I can.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Karen, do you believe that these experiences that you've experienced
run in families?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
I do.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
I do believe that there are a couple of components
to that I do believe there's a genetic component that
they're looking for, very specific genetic material that is compatible
that they can utilize, which is one of the same
reasons why you see cattle mutilations, which I'll bring into that.
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But once once you find ali, I'm an OH negative
blood type, that's a very compatible blood type. I can
give blood to anyone. I can't receive it from anyone
else except OH negative, but I can give blood to anyone.
And the genetic lineage is very important to them, and
they reiterated that to me over and over again during
my abductions. And then you know, obviously they seem to
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have a much much longer life span than we do.
So once you find a compatible genetic specimen as we're treated,
because they really don't treat it as like people. They
treat us like specimens and things, then you want to
continue that within that family line. You're going to be
able to find more, you know, other members of that
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family who will possibly have that same blood type and
the genetics that are as compatible as well. So I
believe that's one reason it runs in family lines, and
I believe another reason is because of the activities of
certain family members where those family members have given permissions
for them to take their family members, whether it be
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involvement in Satanic groups and certain Masonic groups and things
like that that just seem to have some sort of
a strange tie in into this phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
When you look back on your life and all the
experiences that you've had with these entities, what do you
believe their true intentions are.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah, that's a good question. I believe that their intentions
are to interfere with the human population and to lead
people away from the truth by touting themselves as our
ancestral cedars or as our benevolent space brothers. That pulls
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people away from the truth of our actual creator God,
and it pulls people away from the truth of who
we are and where we came from. And it gives
them an opportunity to go back to something that goes
back to the Bible, our Christian Bible, to Genesis three,
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to the Garden of Eden, when the Nakashins say is
in the garden of Eden, and he says, you know,
God is in the garden with him, and it says
or Jesus and says, your seed will be at enmity
with the seed of the woman, and you will bruise
his heel and he will crush your head. That sets
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up a seed war that is going on still today.
And initially that seed war was to try to stop
the savior Jesus from being born. But they didn't know
what line from the tribes, from the twelve tribes, Jesus
would come from. So that is when in Genesis six
it talks about how they felt, how the sons of God,
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which these are the watcher angels, found the daughters of
men beautiful and took for them wives of all that
they chose, and had offspring with them. These were called
the nepheline mighty been of old right, and that's going
on still today. It's just a different, a different manner
because in Daniel Too and Daniel I leave its chapter two,
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it says, you know that in the days, in the
last days and the times before Jesus comes, you know
they'll do this again. They will take them, but they
won't cleave to them. They won't have these contracts like
they had back in the days of Genesis six, these
marriage contracts. And that's exactly what's happening. They're taking women.
They took eggs from me they take sperm and eggs
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oven from other women and men, and they implanted these
embryos into me and then took them before the end
of the first trimester, before my body could reject it.
And I write a great deal about that in the book,
and it's one of the most heart wrenching and difficult
things that I ever wrote about. It's very hard to
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talk about and very hard to write about. But I
believe that they're still in that same sea board to dilute,
you know, to create a modern day nepheline.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
I want to ask you a question, and I'm not
The question is not meant to doubt you, so please sure, okay,
with all that you've had happened to you, have you
made any official reports to police, to doctors, to anyone
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where you could say, well, listen, I'm not crazy. It
really did happen. Check this out. I went to this
police department, I filed this, you know, this report with
this governmental agency. I've asked for hospital records to confirm
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (51:39):
Sure, you know, who would I what would I say
to the police? I mean, A, well, A, it's not happening. Now,
there's no way for me to do that now. But
when I had the fetuses missing, I was in the hospital.
They did dncs. They confirmed there was no baby, no heartbeat,
and no fetal tissue. But I had just I have
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been with my my obg yn up to that point
confirming these pregnancies, confirming that that baby was there. And
I told them in the hospital, you can talk to
my doctor, this baby was there, right, And what did
They don't do anything?
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Okay, So if you've got proof that you were pregnant, mh,
you have this encounter of an ungodly type, your fetus
is removed, you have proof that the hospital says, sorry,
there's nothing there, right. You know, to me, that would
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be a very strong case of somebody missing the ball
and raising alarms all over the place.
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Well, this has been reported by the government in a
report that they call nonmalists acute and subacute effects on
human and biological tissues. And they actually report our government
that these missing pregnancies are a result of exposure to
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UAPs and non human entities. So they know what's going on,
but there's nothing for.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Me to do about it, all right. If they know
this is going on, Karen, why all this big hubbub
about the congressional hearings. If if it's already enormous and
established fact.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
If that's a really good question. I don't you know,
there's all these reports out there that these are Anyone
can look that report up. It came out in the
report was released in twenty twenty two, so it wasn't
very long ago. And you know, Tucker Carlson, I think,
interviewed Gary Nolan in August of twenty twenty and they
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talked about different anomalous injuries like this that have been reported,
and you know, there just isn't any interest in it.
It doesn't seem well. I find so many women in
the same position.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I find it really funny because everybody in the UFO
community is screaming for a smoking gun and they have
one and they're not using it.
Speaker 5 (54:15):
But I don't have the baby. I don't have the
fetal tissue, but you do have the I want to
say your body. You know, well, you lost that baby
and you didn't realize it.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
But how many times did this happen to you? Well?
Speaker 5 (54:28):
I have three confirmed that happened, and then many others.
Because I stopped going to the obg y N until
I got to a certain point because it was just
too heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
I understand that, I understand that in my heart, my
heart goes to you, It really does. But when the
government says, oh, yeah, we know it's you. You you
you were giving us the title of an article or
something that was issued by the government that basically said
the h we know that this is happening as a
result of interaction with a UAP. If the government it
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already has that information, how come move on and other
organizations that claim to be the heroes and the the
knights in shining armor for the UFO community, don't take
this information and run with it.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
Yeah, Moufon was actually involved in putting the list of
seventy seven. I think it was effects, physical and psychological
effects together.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
For that report. So if Moufon already gave this information
to the US government, the US government has already read
it and issued it. Something doesn't make sense here.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
No, none of it makes sense, does it?
Speaker 2 (55:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (55:39):
None of it makes sense. And there's always an excuse,
there's always a well. And there are a lot of
people out there who will approach someone like me. And
I have met so many women who've gone through this,
robbed so many and they say you are having a
psychotic delusion. This never happened, and they leave it right there,
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and that's the end of it.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Speaking about the end of it, our time is coming
up very short. We have about a minute left. First
of all, Karen, thank you so much. Let our listeners
know how they can find out more about you and
where they can get a copy of your book.
Speaker 5 (56:13):
Oh, thank you so much, Roby. I wish we had
more time. The book was available exclusively right now at
lamarzuli dot net. That's l A m A r z
U l l a dot net. And you can find
that link on my website which is Karen Wilkinson author
dot com, which I have given you for the show notes.
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And you can find me on Facebook at Karen Wilkinson.
Just my name Karen with an I Wilkinson with eyes,
so you can find me there and all the links
will be there as well. And you know, I just
encourage anyone if you need, if you just need to
talk or want to share your story, you know, just
please reach out to me. I'm not a therapist and
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nothing like that. I'm just a fellow experiencer who wants
to be there and sharing this and just for comfort
if I can.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Karen, we'll have to get you back on in the
future because we do have still so much to talk about.
But until then, thank you so much. It's been a
great pleasure talking to you and dexonation. That's it for
me for tonight. I'll be back tomorrow night at ten
o'clock as once again we cross the time space continuum
to this place that I call the X Zone. So
from everyone here at the X Zone to everyone out there,
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take care of yourself, be careful, and always remember to
keep your eyes to the sky and your heart to
the light. Good Night, everyone,
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