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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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This past weekend was the Alien Cosmicexpo in Branford, Ontario,
and the xxone was there. We were there with our
digital broadcast company. We were doing the pay per view
and I must say that I had a wonderful time.
Joe Anne and Heather, the two organizers of the expo,
(01:09):
did a fascinating job and I also had the chance
of meeting and spending time with several of the keynote
speakers that were in the Grand Ballroom, and I've got
to tell you that it was just a thrill and
a pleasant, pleasant three days that we spent in Branford
doing the broadcast pay per view. I had a great
(01:32):
time talking to Stanton Friedman for a number of hours.
The guy is a legend, you know. Here you've got
the great grandfather of eufology, the cornerstone of the UFO movement.
God bless him. He's eighty two years of age and
still going strong. So way to go, Stanton. Now, my
(01:53):
first guest tonight was also at the Alien Cosmic Expo.
His name is Kevin Estrella and he's from Hamilton. And
first of all, Kevin, thanks very much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
All right, Kevin, tell us a little bit about yourself
and I want to I want you to tell our
listeners about Pyramids on Mars.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, Pyramids on Mars. That is my musical project, that's
my band. Pyramids on Mars is the it hitt of me,
of of everything I am musically and philosophically. My music
is very similar to guitarist Joe Sachran that I call
(02:35):
myself the Satrianny of the North. Actually, that's that's my U.
That's how I describe my that's your hook, that's my hook.
That's my hook. And I have radio play throughout Canada,
the US, UK, Netherlands, Germany, Brazil and I'm on countless
radio stations and magazines all the time, particularly Ryan the
(02:57):
Hammer Jackson in Los Angeles. I'm one on his show
a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, what I'd like to do for our listeners, if
it's okay with you, Kevin, is give him a taste
of your music and exination. This is Kevin Estrella and
Pyramids on Mars with a song that they that Kevin
has done entitled dream Division. All Right, that just gives
(03:58):
you a little bit of a taste of the great
music that you can find at Kevin's website www dot
be ready for this x O Nation Pyramids on Mars
dot com. Kevin, what is the significance behind the name
Pyramids on Mars.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, it goes a lot back to the philosophies that
I've that I've been going by and trying to educate
the public with about what is going on here on
Earth and the the alternate reality that NASA has tried
to create in regards to what's on the you know,
what they they say is on the moon and what's
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on Mars, and what actually really is on the moon
and what is on Mars. So I'm trying to educate
people and kind of wake awaken people to the realities
of our of our of our of our lives, and
that aliens are here and have been here for a
very long time and have had a great influence in
our lives. And I've spent you know, twenty years doing
(04:59):
my own research, and like so I've done my homework.
I know what I'm talking about. And when I'm on
radios and I tell people about you know, I tell
them what it is, and people are really you know,
they're amazed, and they're really excited, and I just, you know,
love sharing this. So my music is completely tied into
that too, because it's very spacey. I use a lot
of analog keyboards that Rush and Pink Floyd used back
(05:20):
in the seventies, so it sound has My music is
very hard rock influenced, but it has a lot of
influence of classical music with a lot of this you know,
this spacey sound from the analog keyboards.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
What is on the Moon and what is on Mars.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, that's a good question. I I at five years ago,
I heard this crazy, you know, ideas about there being
ill and boost is in the moon, and I'm thinking,
oh my god, here they go again. Yeah, and so
so then I started to do my own research, and
I was looking at things, you know, and a lot
of things I was finding on YouTube and stuff. And
(05:57):
then all of a sudden they were showing these pictures
of like airbrushed out stuff. And then all of a sudden,
I had a flashback. I was like, wait a second, no,
I've seen this before. I've seen this before. And then
I realized that when I was about five or six
years old, it was about nineteen seventy six, I used
to go to my doctor's office and he had this
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huge book on the Moon. It was there, a picture book, yes,
and I would go to it and I'd pick it
up and go through all the papers to pages, and
you know, all the pictures that had with the astronauts
were crystal clear, really good quality. But then as you
got deeper into this book and they had pictures of
the craters and stuff like that, it was obvious that
there was things that were blurred out because they were
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all black and white pictures. But there was stuff that
was blurred out. Now, I'm a kid, and I didn't
know what airbrushing was, but I was smart enough to
know that they were covering something up. And page after
page after page after page after page of air brushed
out stuff, and I didn't know what was going on.
I'd put the page over and see what's it covering up?
What is it that are covering up? And then you know,
(07:00):
like and then like twenty five years later, I see
the same images and realize, oh my god, it's all true.
And of course there's you know, there's a lot of
other stuff out there that people that you know, they
have actually captured of, you know, of things that are
on the alien bases on the Moon, and they've been
able to, you know, get closer pictures of it, so
you know they're they're up there. Why do you say
they've been up there for a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Why do you think there's a cover up. Why do
you think that the truth is being suppressed?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I think it has a lot to do with fear.
I think fears is ultimately what's controlling things the US,
the US government, the governments want to have control over
this when they know damn well that they don't have
control over it. But I think that they are trying
to remain like they like pretend like they do have
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control over this because there's high technology that's involved, and
you know, anything can you know, alien you know, these
alien propulsion, some systems can be used, you know, as
as you know, advanced weaponry. And it's it's who has
a bigger stick. I think I had to deal a
lot to do with power control. I think.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Now, tell me what's your first memory of what got
you interested in the into the topic of aliens and UFOs.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I think that was that was it when I
was you know, when I was a kid and I
was first fascinated by the moon and you know, and
and wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid,
and you know, then I saw that book, and you know,
then I saw those pictures and I didn't what was
going on at the time, you know, it just didn't
make any sense. But then as I got older, you know,
into my teenage years, I had you know, more of
(08:42):
an interest in the US in UFOs and in high school.
That's when I was introduced to a bunch of guys
who were doing stuff, you know, studying Bob Lasar's claims
on his working you know, at Area fifty one. So
then I really started to get interested in in in
the subject. And then and you know, throughout when I
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was another band, when I was in my twenties, that's
when X files came out, and I was really becoming
more and more fascinated, and I did a lot of
you know, my own research and you know, trying to
get more information about what was going on. You know,
I read you know, Bud Hopkins books, I read a communion,
you know, I read all that stuff, and it was
really you know, I really wanted to know more of
what was what was going on.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Have you yourself ever had a first hand experience.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, I finally, I finally did last year, and it
was it was quite incredible. I was right here in Hamilton.
It was August. It was August twenty first, ten thirty pm.
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Because I live up on the mountain. You know, basically
we're Upper James and the link meet, and I was
looking looking south towards you know, south and Upper James,
that direction towards the airport right and and from the
from the right side of my neighbor's tree came out
of came out of nowhere into view. At first, what
(10:10):
I thought was with a meteorite moving across the sky,
because it was this. It was orange and red, and
it seemed to be having this it was like this
trail covering it that was kind of streaming behind it,
like its energy stream. Looked like it was on fire.
I didn't know what the heck I was looking at right,
but but it was. It was definitely disc shaped, and
(10:33):
it moved across the sky, and I was like, going,
what the heck is this? What is this thing? It
was maybe like you know, maybe a kilometer high and
maybe a kilometer away, and it was it probably you know,
from that it must have been at least forty or
fifty feet in diameter, and it moved across the sky.
And then as it was moving towards the Bimbrook, and
then as it was moving away, it got darker in
(10:53):
appearance and appeared to have this white vortex umbrella like
swirling coming, you know, kind of covering it, which I
thought maybe maybe that was, you know, what I was seeing.
I didn't know what I was looking at. But after it,
after it disappeared, I was like thinking, oh my god,
I think I just saw UFO. And I got on
(11:16):
the phone and called my wife and said, I just
think I saw a UFO. Yeah. So I reported it,
you know, I reported it to UPON, and I reported
it to the UFO Reporting Center of Washington, d C.
UPON took a complete report on it, and and I
had waited to hear back from them, and I never did.
(11:36):
So I didn't know what what happened, but I'll tell you, like, yeah,
like it just it really affected me because like I
had always hoped to see a UFO, and then when
I finally did, I didn't know how to rationally grasp
on the idea. I didn't believe it was a UFO.
(11:56):
For two weeks, I struggled trying to figure out, you know,
there must be a rational explanation for what it was
that I saw. There had to be some down to
earth reasoning. But then the more and more I thought
about what I saw, the more I realized there was
more peculiar things about it. And the other thing that
was so strange about it was that it was too dimensional,
(12:17):
two dimensional, too dimensional. That's right, And people ask me
what do you mean by that? Well, picture are solar eclips? Yeah,
that's that's two dimensional. It's got heype, it's got width,
it has no depth. It looks like a hole in
this guy, that's what the thing looked like. It was
just disc shaped, orange and red. No dimension. Nothing I've
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ever seen in a movie or in the real life
is two dimensional. How do you explain that?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Good point? So, how did you feel when you were
when you were watching this, uh, this UFO? Would you
did you feel as if you were being contacted? Were
you know, was there any How did you feel?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Here you are, You're up on Upper James and the Link.
You're looking towards the airport. You see this thing in
the sky bang you realize it's a UFO. How did
you feel?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well? Well, as I said, like when I was when
I was looking at it, I didn't know what I
was looking at, And I honestly didn't think I was
looking at a UFO. I was too busy analyzing and
trying to understand what it was I was looking at.
Because the incident only lasted a total of maybe two minutes.
If I had stepped out of my porch. Two minutes
earlier or two minutes later, I would have never seen him.
(13:33):
I would have never seen him. So as it came
across the sky, I was just looking at it, going
like what is that?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What is that? What was that thing? Because it was
moving with the speed of a helicopter. It was moving
really slow, and it's like it was covered. You know,
It's the way I was looking. And honestly, for two
weeks afterwards, I was upset. I was. I was upset.
I was I it was hard to explain. I was
like I was. It's like my world was broken. It's like,
(14:03):
this is real, this is like what am I looking at?
What's happening? I didn't understand. I couldn't. I couldn't grasp
with it. I would have thought that if I saw
UFO would be really excited. I wasn't. I was. I
didn't know how to react to it. It was like
his world was life changing. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I do, and it's rather strange. Yeah, you know
we I just had one of my producers check the
National UFO Reporting Center, and your sighting is not listed.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's what I was going to get to. Yeah, that's
what I'm going to get to when I went to
When I went, that's well, I went to the Alien
Cosmic Convention, and I'll get to grants presentation the second. Like,
oh my god, he's just absolutely amazing. But he's the
(14:54):
reason why I went. I went to the Alien Cosmic
because my wife told me about the Alien Cosmic and
then I I looked it up and I looked at
the schedule and saw he was talking about musicians and
UFOs and stuff. I'm like, oh my god, this thing's
meant for me. I'm supposed to go to this, right
And so that's why I went. But when I went there,
one of the booths was was mute Fun and I
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have my drawings with me that because I drew that.
I drew the pictures. I drew exactly what I saw.
And I walked up to them and didn't say a word.
I just put the pictures on the table. They turned around,
looked at the pictures, looked up at me and went,
oh my god, I'm so glad you're here. We're doing
a presentation on you tomorrow. I'm like, what, I haven't
even heard from you guys. He says, yeah, he says,
(15:38):
you your case is one of the most authentic cases
that we've had, and we're part of our presentation Tomorrow'm
glad you showed up. I'm like, really, well, I said,
I haven't heard from you guys, Like how many other
people saw it? And he says, that's the thing, You're
the only one. And I'm like, that's impossible. I'm in
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the Hamilton, I'm in the city of five hundred thousand people.
This thing was forty or fifty feet in diameter, it
was glowing, it was massive, and it was moving through
the sky at ten thirty at night. It wasn't even
that late. I can't be the only one who saw it.
He says, well, sorry, buddy, but no one else reported it.
So I'm really freak that now. I'm like, this doesn't
(16:21):
make any sense. This just doesn't make any sense. And
so then I went up to Grant, you know, and
I handed him my CD and he was really excited
to see me and stuff, and you know, then we
had a chance to meet have lunch and I was
telling me he's actually said, yeah, I saw the presentation
from Ufahon and they showed your photos and they were
looking for you. And I was like, yeah, I know,
(16:41):
I couldn't make it. I was only a will afford
to go to two, you know, the true shows, and
so we would won't sit down and have lunch. And
I told him, look, you know, this is what mew
Fon said. He said, like they said, I'm the only
person who saw this thing, and you only said no,
this is what he said. He says, you know what,
that is not uncommon. He says the same thing happened
(17:03):
to John Lennon. When John Lennon had saw his UFO,
it was like everybody in the city was shut down.
There was no lights on, the apartments below him were
around and everybody. He was yelling at everybody, trying to
get eybody's attention, and he couldn't find anybody. Nobody was around.
And even you know, his wife at the time said,
(17:24):
you know, she used the excuse that everybody was down
at this club whatever, this famous club, and they're all
that's where they were that night because it was Friday night.
But after, you know, I can think they had a
new chance to reinterview and she said, yeah, I know,
it doesn't make any sense. So what Grant was telling
me was that it's done in common where you know,
people are being chased down a highway by a UFO
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and they're flying at you know, you know, not one
hundred miles an hour, trying to get away from this thing.
And then when they're asked questions about the highways, is
this h this highway? Were there any other cars? Like, no,
there wasn't he says, is this a busy highway? Normally
says yeah, it always cars us highway? He says, don't
you think it's kind of strange that you're the only one?
And for what what Grant is saying is that the
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these extraterrestrials have the ability of being able to shut
people down or you know, they're able to shut people down,
and so only one person can experience it. But the
other thing that you talked about and soon getting back
to about is about his presentation was the connection between
uphology and neurology and that the aliens, the extraterrestrials, are
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trying to help us get to a higher level of
consciousness and all these downloads that are happening to people,
and you know the explanation of how savants can do
all these multiple you know, create calculations without having you
know that the answers has come to them or or
how all these you know, all these you know are
like Einstein and Steve Jobs, you know, contribute a lot
(18:57):
of their their invention to you know, using LSD or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But let me let me ask you this. Let me
ask you, Let me ask you this. Why do you
think there is so there's such a vast difference in
in in what Grant Cameron is saying compared to what
the established scientific community and medical community and your neuro
neuroscience community is saying, Like there's really no connection. And
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and I listened to Grant's presentation and I had a
hard time trying to make the connection between the established
sciences and what he's saying. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think that that our consciousness is that is we are.
There's so much more to our consciousness that we're using
a small portion of our brains. And and a lot
of it has to do with our left you know,
analytical irrational side that tries to take over the establishments
in the right brain. That the right brain where where
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it is the it's connected to one and all and
and ononness and and and everything is one. And you
know that's where esp comes through. That's where precognition comes through.
That's where downloads come through. It's that's where that's where
you know, I find it. You know, the infinite universe
comes from. Is the right brain to create a side.
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That's the part that cannot speak.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
If and if the hypothesis that is put out by
Grant Cameron is correct, how come more and more people
aren't coming forward with these download revelations as well as
these sightings. You know, like when you check the archives
and you check the Internet for August thirty first, twenty fourteen,
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there is not one UFO sighting. And like you say,
city of Hamilton, five hundred thousand people. You've got you've
got the airport up on the mountain, and you've got
Toronto Pearson International, you have Buffalo, you have Niagara Falls.
No anomalies tracked on Raider Transport Canada. No anomalies tracked
on Raider. How do we explain this?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I wish I could explain it. I mean, why is
that I'm the only person who saw this thing? Because
I know that I saw it right, and I think
it from what I from what I believe it has
to do with it has to do with consciousness. I
mean my music. I I I've striven, strive my entire
life to create music that is a completely flow of
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from conscious you know, from basically the right side of
the brain. And I've been compared to like, you know,
guitar players like David Gilmore. He's one of the most
emotional players out there. And that's what I strive for,
is complete total emotion and under you know one this
with with with God. You know Hendrix too, he's he's
he's my top you know, favorite guitar player too. And
(22:00):
he was connected to the university. He actually was you know,
had UFO experiences. I think that perhaps, you know, these
aliens want me to be a spokesperson for them somehow,
and they chose me to see this thing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All right, okay, but have you had you know, we're
talking nearly a year ago. Have you had any connection
with them since then?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No? No, nothing. I keep going out of the porch
hoping I'll see that again. Yeah, I haven't had anything.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
If they wanted you to be a spokesperson for them,
wouldn't there be more than a sighting. Wouldn't there be
some telepathic communication. Wouldn't you have the evidence of a download,
like you were a musician before you saw this thing. Yeah,
so wouldn't. I'm just asking you because I find it.
I find it interesting, And if if I wanted somebody
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to be my spokesperson, I wouldn't wait over nearly a
year before I get back to them.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I know I can't. I I'm still trying to pe
put all the pieces together. And I think what I'm
gonna do is like I've met with a lot of hypnotists,
hypnotists at the convention, and I'm going to be meeting
with a couple of them and and and go under,
go under, and see if there's something more that I should.
(23:19):
You know that that's been repressed with me because I
honestly feel like I've been you know, I've always felt
like an outsider, and I've been on a on a
on a on a question a path as a you know,
as a as a as like a you call it,
like a pioneer. And it just now that this, you know,
it's like they think, like as Grant Cameron has put it,
(23:39):
you know, the aliens want us to believe, but just
a little bit, so they leave little breadcrumbs you know,
here and there, you know, just leaving a little bit
of evidence for you to try and you know, look
around and see what who who left us here? And
after I found out that, you know, that I was
the only person to see this thing, I got to
find out why it has to be a reason for it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Has there been any change in your life that you
can say, all right? I had this sighting August thirty first,
twenty fourteen, and since then, something has changed in my
life that I can't attribute to anything else except what
I saw. Because I believe that these the occupants of
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whatever this was I saw this, UFO want me to
be their spokesman.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think what's changed a lot in the last last
year or so has been my dedication to me promoting
my music and getting it out there, and getting myself
out there and talking to people about it and talking
about my experiences. And that's why I do what I'm
(24:49):
on the radio. I talk as much about my experiences
as I do about my music because mostly because I
want people to know me. I want people to like
to connect with me, you know, not just you know,
some musician. Uh, you know, I'm a real person who's
who's got these strange things that are happening with him.
So I and I put absolutely all my energies in
the last year into my music to get my new
(25:10):
CD out, and I'm really hoping that, you know, I
think this is gonna be my breakout CD, my new CD, Ecocosmic.
It's it's it's just it's a great, great, you know,
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, But tell me, when you're talking to people and
you tell them about your UFO experience and and what
you believe, how do they react.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Most of them are very are very excited about it.
They want to know more. And the things that, you know,
I start telling them about things about the moon or
about you know, Mars, they're just floored, like they just
didn't know, they didn't have any idea. Or you know,
when I start talking about the rings of Saturn or
you know, the you know, the anomaly as a Saturn,
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maybe they get you know, they're they're really curious about
that too. There's just so much that's out there that
we're sure that we're that we're touching base on and
try and understand. People need to, you know, to waken
and realize this. If it's okay to step out of
your comfort zone, it's okay because if they're here and
it's for us to understand what is going on and
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try and get an understanding for the larger.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Picture, why don't they make themselves known once and for all.
What are they? What? What are they hiding from? What?
Because if if they have anything but benevolent reasons for
coming to this to this planet, whether it's to watch us,
or whether it's to help us to whether it's to
bring us to a higher level of consciousness, why do
(26:39):
they hide behind the anonymity? Why not come forward? Why
not say we are here, this is why we are here.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, I have some good talks with you know, several
people at the convention.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, no, no, I don't want to hear what they said.
I want to hear what you say. What I ye,
what you believe?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I think it's a lot of what they're what what
they're what they were saying too, I it's what I
think too. I believe that that that they are trying
to help us on the spiritual journey, trying to get
us to reach a level higher level of consciousness. But
they seem to not have any care about how long
(27:26):
it takes. It's not like they're on a timeline. They
don't you know there. I think maybe their concepts of
time is different than ours, but that they're helping us
slowly awaken, awaken our consciousness to higher levels of consciousness.
I think that might be it. And I don't think
you can do it through force, and think it has
(27:46):
to be done through through everybody's own awakening. You can't,
you know, just knock, you know, land on on, you know,
the White House and say, okay, we're here to to
to teach you this. Why not, we're trying to help
you with this?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Why not? It doesn't it seem strange that they're doing
this all in a covert method instead of just coming.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Up for the thing. It's kind of like the same
thing like Jesus did that you know, doesn't happen to
Jesus came the Chris you have.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But Jesus was out there. Jesus was out there. He
went and made himself in front of the people. He
wasn't afraid to let the people know what he was
talking about. He wasn't afraid to let his anyone who
would listen to him talk about God, the you know,
and and saving yourself. He was front and center. But
you know, when it comes to these these extraterrestrials. They
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always do everything in a covert method. And this is
my greatest concern because they are not front and center.
They are doing everything behind the scenes. And in my
you know, it just doesn't seem logical that they would
want to do everything that is positive for humanity and
(29:04):
for the world and stay back underground, Yeah, underground on
other planets that monitor us. Whatever the case, why not
just face us and say this is we have been
here for thousands of years. You're right, Earthlings, we have
(29:26):
been here. You're right, Earthlings, we are the we are
these the the the lights in the sky. This is
why we have been doing it. Bang. I've heard the
I've heard the the reason being that religion would cease
(29:46):
to exist, society, we'd go into turmoil, you know. And
and I don't think we're giving ourselves enough credit as
a human race, if this is what we really think.
I think that we don't give ourselves enough credit. And
when when we as a human race do something that
(30:07):
even shocks us, well, god, it's got to be the extraterrestrials.
We can't do this. It's just like the stories about
reverse engineering. If in fact reverse engineering is real. How
come we're still using solid rocket propulsion to go to Mars.
You know, there's so many things that just don't add
up in my mind. That's my opinion. But I didn't,
(30:31):
you know, I wasn't with you, Kevin, the night that
you had your sighting. I don't doubt you that you
saw something. I really don't. I see. I want to
be a believer. I want to believe so bad. However,
in order for me to believe, I want to see
the proof. I'm just not going to take the word
(30:54):
of the masses. I want to see the proof. Does
that makes sense, Nope.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I can beleely makes sense?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And I wish, I wish, I wish I had better answers.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, you know, it's it's we're all seeking answers. I
don't think there's one person on the face of the
earth who, at one time or another seeks answers. A
lot of people seek their answers in different religions. Gosh,
I know so many people who go from religion to religion,
to religion to the religion because they can't find the
(31:33):
answer that they're searching for. And I don't think it's
right that people should have to go through this much
turmoil to find answers if there are those with the knowledge,
and I'm talking about the ets who have the knowledge
to finally give these people on this planet the answers
(31:57):
we're looking for. For example, if you're an extent, if
you're an advanced race, can't you help us with the
with the climate problem? Can't you help us with the
sicknesses that are killing people of this planet. Can you
help us come up with a way to feed everyone.
You must have this knowledge if you can traverse time
and space. But yet they don't. And you mentioned Jesus before.
(32:26):
Jesus fed multitudes. In other religious philosophies, the prophets go
out of their way to help people, to give them
the answers they're looking for. And yet when it comes
to the extraterrestrial connection, answers are very sparse. This is
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you know, this is my concern, Like, why, if you're there,
say hello, work with us instead of putting so many
people in doubt of their own sanity. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And I've listened to Grant a number of times he's
entitled his opinion. You know, I've been doing this show
a number of years. I've had the pleasure of talking
to many people over the years, and they too are
seeking answers. They don't have the answers, they are seeking
(33:27):
the answers. One of the most convincing speakers I've ever
heard of Stanton Friedman. You know, this guy takes you
from A to Z. He doesn't skip any of the
alphabet getting you there, and basically he says, I'm not
going to force feed you make your own conclusions based
on the information. M you know, and there were so
(33:52):
there's so many people with so many stories that it's
hard not to say there's nothing out there, there's nothing
to these I want to know what's out there. I
want to know what's at the end of the story.
I can hear the passion in your music, and thank
you very much for sending us those two tracks. They're wonderful.
(34:14):
I can tell by what I've read about you, your
passion in music, and I have no doubt you're going
to be a superstar. I really have no doubt whatsoever.
I too want to know what's out there. I too
want to know is there more? Are we alone? You know,
(34:38):
like there's so many people using so many methods to
find the same answer. Something's got to give somewhere. You know,
it's and it's frustrating, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It's very frustrating. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, yeah,
I've met a lot of people who have had, you know,
close encounters and you'll you'll have many, many of them.
And I met even more over the weekend. Yeah, and
you know, we're all we're all searching answers exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And you know what another point of contention with me
is that the UFO community, the different organizations, the different groups,
they do not share the information. And to me, that
is that is so stupid. You know, everybody wants to
find the smoking gun. Do it together, because you're doing
(35:34):
it for the same cause. Share the information. Peter Davenport
at the National UFO Reporting Center, he puts his information
for everyone to see. God bless Peter. Love the guy.
You know, he he's been doing this for years and
everything comes out of his pocket. He finances it, but
(35:58):
he shares it. All the information you want to know
about UFO sightings, all you have to do is go
to THEFO, the National UFO Reporting Center, and it's there.
The guy is trying to make a positive difference. But
when you speak to people like us Do Bundy at
Mouffon of Canada, and you talk to our organizations, they
don't share the information. And I can't understand this. You know,
(36:22):
law enforcement, as I'm sure that everyone knows. In the
United States they have NCIC of the National Crime Information Center,
and here in Canada we have SEAPICKS the Canadian Police
Information Center. First of all, SEAPICK and NCIC talk to
each other. Every law enforcement agency in Canada and the
(36:44):
United States feeds their feeds their information into either SEAPICK
or NCIC. Interpol has access to these data banks and people,
and I'm sorry other countries in the world alls so
apply give Interpol access to their banks because they're all
(37:05):
working on the same thing. They're all working to, you know,
to catch bad guys or whatever the case may be,
and yet solve crimes. There's another good reasons. But yet
when it comes to the UFO community, everybody wants to
work on their own and if if there was if
(37:30):
there was a correlation of all the different UFO authors,
all the UFO researchers, everybody's got their own theory. Everybody
has a different reason for Roswell or for Secora, or
whatever the case may be. Shag harbor up here in Canada.
(37:53):
Everybody has their own idea, their own belief, their own research.
If the phenomenon was as how can I say this
as real? Well, yeah, transparent? That's good, that's a good one.
If the UFO phenomenon was as real as people say
(38:17):
it is, wouldn't there be a level of consistency in
all the different books, all the different DVDs instead of
all the different hypotheses.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah? Yeah, and yet hear you organized, Yeah, it was
treated more like a science.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Exactly Exactly when you have the director of a part
of Muffon who sends out a press release saying that
he knows why Malaysian Airlines Flight three P seventy has
not been found is because it was abducted by a
mothership and that the aircraft and all the crew were
(39:00):
taken away abducted by a UFO. That didn't even go
good within the UFO community. But with these white with
these with these claims that just pop out of nowhere,
and with all the false flags that the UFO community
(39:22):
itself has given to mainstream media, what do you expect
mainstream media to do when somebody says, hey, listen, I
know what I saw, and I'm not talking about you here.
I am not talking about you here, Kevin. This is
what I saw, and it's not taken seriously anymore because
they've been burned so many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
(39:46):
And and then here you come along, and the sincerity
you're talking in your voice. I can only imagine how
frustrated you are.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I think what frustrated me so much was I never
heard from UFON again, and here they were doing a
presentation on.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Me that is one hundred percent wrong. Is that, my friend,
I find inexcusable.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
How did you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Feel when you found out that, even though they hadn't
contacted you, they're using the information that you gave them
as part of the president actually pardon.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
A little bamboozled, a little bamboozled, you know, especially when
they said it was one of the more authentic cases
they had. Will It would be nice if you had
told me that, right. I didn't even bother contact me
because I've been sitting around for a year thinking I'm
going crazy, and I go on, I'd go on, you know,
I chew my research and you know, type in UFO
was and type in that that date and there's nothing.
(40:46):
It's like, okay, there's nothing. Nobody else has a report
of anything, and nobody come back to me. It's like, okay,
what's going on? I don't know? Yeah, anybody else see it.
It's like there's I had no idea, idea that that
was the only one who saw it. No idea, And
it still doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Did you listen to the talk that Moufon gave on
your on your sighting.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
No, I didn't because I, as I said, like I
was only able to afford to go to two.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
You mean that Moufon would not even invite you in
to listen to the presentation that you had supplied them.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
No, I wasn't really invited though.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Well wait, you know here you've got the guy, and
apparently the people at Moufon were excited because you were there.
They told you that this was how did they phrase it,
a very credible case?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, a credible case. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
And here you are the person who saw the UFO
who I invited.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, I wasn't invited to attens.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Now, and here you are there in Branford. We're in
Hamilton twenty minutes down the highway. See, this is what
bamboozles me about the UFO community. It's not the experiencer
like you. My heart goes out to you, guys. It's
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the organizations that everyone puts their trust in who lets
them down. Yeah, listen, my friend, you and I have
to got to take a commercial break. We're going to
be back in about two minutes. When I come back exponation,
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(42:35):
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Speaker 1 (47:22):
Welcome back everyone. You're listening to the Battle of Rome,
composed and played by my guest this hour, Kevin Estrilla
from right here in Hamilton. His website is www dot
Pyramids on mars dot com. Love your music, man, you
get right to the meat of it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
After attending the Alien Cosmic Convention, Kevin, did you take
anything away with you from the from the experience and
the speakers you met, and the people you met.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I think I got a lot of answers, things that
I felt that I was striving towards, especially with Grant's
presentation on neurology and uphology. And you know, I've been
I reached a point of enlightenment. I remember exactly the
(48:21):
moment of the moment where I reached my point of enlightenment.
And I've been striving to, you know, to get to
that keep of that level of consciousness or strive towards
at eighty of enlightenment all my life. And that moment
was back when I was in university and I was
listening to Jimmy Hendrix live at Monterey and it was
(48:41):
at the moment of the solo at the the guitar
solo of Foxy Lady, and I was air guitaring and
I all of a sudden, I hit this moment of
absolute complete oneness with the universe. It's so hard to describe,
but I hit it and I felt it, and it
was like everything became one. And that's what I realized,
where that's what I wanted to That's where I wanted
(49:02):
to be. That's that's the state of mind I wanted
to be, and so I've always strived for that and
in my music to to to reach for that same plateau.
And that's that's where I go with my music. I mean,
Hendricks is he was beyond anything that nobody else was doing.
And you know, if like my spirit resonates with what
he's doing and from what Grant's been talking about about,
(49:25):
you know, this level of consciousness rising in people. It
makes sense to me, and I'm going to continue to
do it and his to talk about, you know, the relationship,
which relationship between musicians and UFOs and aliens made a
lot of sense to me. Yeah, and I can relate
(49:47):
to it obviously for my own experiences. And now I'm
I'm saying I think I'm starting to become one of
these guys. I think I always have been actually, so
now I have a lot of answers, with a lot
of answers, but I also have a lot of questions.
You know, I walked away and found out that nobody
else saw what I saw. Right now, I got to
find out, Okay, maybe there's more I need to do.
(50:07):
Maybe more I need to do some more homework, Maybe
I need to go under hypnotic aggression. Maybe there's more
that I'm blocking. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
How has your your new found consciousness, You're this new
revelation that that you attribute to listening to to Jimmy Hendrix,
how has this affected your your personal religious philosophy, your
personal religious beliefs.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm a I'm a devout Catholic. I actually there actually
was a period of darkness between two thousand and twenty
ten where I stopped going to church and stop believing.
It probably the most darkest point of my spiritual being.
And I blamed God for everything that was going bad
(51:00):
life and to break up my band and stuff, and
I lost touch with my music and I couldn't even
feel a guitar anymore. But then I went back to church.
And it wasn't instantaneous, but after a period of six weeks,
I led Jesus back into my heart. And you know,
I spent years reading, you know, reading books about how
(51:21):
to get inspiration, how to write music right and find inspiration,
and Jesus gave it back to me instantaneously like that.
And and then's when I started writing my first Pyramids
on song, Pyramids on Mars songs. And I haven't stopped.
And my creativity is it never been better in my
entire life. And I think I thank Christ for.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
That, and I believe it's just going to get better
and better and better Yeah, Kevin, I want to thank
you so much for joining us letter. Our listeners know
how they can find out more about you and where
they can get your music.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
You can find my music. You can listen to my
music all at period. Www dot pyramids on Mars dot com.
I just released by new CD Echocosmic. You can listen
to it right there. You can pick it up. In fact,
I just released it. It's in a pre release right now.
If I dropped the price, you can pick it up
the whole CD for only six ninety nine. It's a
(52:15):
steel but never mind the price it's worth. It's worth.
It's priceless. This is the best instrumental rock album. It's
going to come out in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
All right, man, if you like you know, if you like.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Sat Training and vibe it like a like, like ahead
the heavier lake metalica, that's where're gonna find it.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
All right, Kevin, take care of yourself. Thanks very much
for sharing with us tonight here on the X Zone
x O Nation. Kevin Estrella has been my guest this
hour Www dot pyramids on Mars dot com. I'll be
back on the other side at the top of the hour.
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This past weekend was the Alien Cosmicexpo in Branford, Ontario,
and the xxone was there. We were there with our
digital broadcast company. We were doing the pay per view
and I must say that I had a wonderful time.
Joe Anne and Heather, the two organizers of the expo,
(01:09):
did a fascinating job and I also had the chance
of meeting and spending time with several of the keynote
speakers that were in the Grand Ballroom, and I've got
to tell you that it was just a thrill and
a pleasant, pleasant three days that we spent in Branford
doing the broadcast pay per view. I had a great
(01:32):
time talking to Stanton Friedman for a number of hours.
The guy is a legend, you know. Here you've got
the great grandfather of eufology, the cornerstone of the UFO movement.
God bless him. He's eighty two years of age and
still going strong. So way to go, Stanton. Now, my
(01:53):
first guest tonight was also at the Alien Cosmic Expo.
His name is Kevin Estrella and he's from Hamilton. And
first of all, Kevin, thanks very much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
All right, Kevin, tell us a little bit about yourself
and I want to I want you to tell our
listeners about Pyramids on Mars.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, Pyramids on Mars. That is my musical project, that's
my band. Pyramids on Mars is the it hitt of me,
of of everything I am musically and philosophically. My music
is very similar to guitarist Joe Sachran that I call
(02:35):
myself the Satrianny of the North. Actually, that's that's my U.
That's how I describe my that's your hook, that's my hook.
That's my hook. And I have radio play throughout Canada,
the US, UK, Netherlands, Germany, Brazil and I'm on countless
radio stations and magazines all the time, particularly Ryan the
(02:57):
Hammer Jackson in Los Angeles. I'm one on his show
a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, what I'd like to do for our listeners, if
it's okay with you, Kevin, is give him a taste
of your music and exination. This is Kevin Estrella and
Pyramids on Mars with a song that they that Kevin
has done entitled dream Division. All Right, that just gives
(03:58):
you a little bit of a taste of the great
music that you can find at Kevin's website www dot
be ready for this x O Nation Pyramids on Mars
dot com. Kevin, what is the significance behind the name
Pyramids on Mars.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, it goes a lot back to the philosophies that
I've that I've been going by and trying to educate
the public with about what is going on here on
Earth and the the alternate reality that NASA has tried
to create in regards to what's on the you know,
what they they say is on the moon and what's
(04:39):
on Mars, and what actually really is on the moon
and what is on Mars. So I'm trying to educate
people and kind of wake awaken people to the realities
of our of our of our of our lives, and
that aliens are here and have been here for a
very long time and have had a great influence in
our lives. And I've spent you know, twenty years doing
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my own research, and like so I've done my homework.
I know what I'm talking about. And when I'm on
radios and I tell people about you know, I tell
them what it is, and people are really you know,
they're amazed, and they're really excited, and I just, you know,
love sharing this. So my music is completely tied into
that too, because it's very spacey. I use a lot
of analog keyboards that Rush and Pink Floyd used back
(05:20):
in the seventies, so it sound has My music is
very hard rock influenced, but it has a lot of
influence of classical music with a lot of this you know,
this spacey sound from the analog keyboards.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
What is on the Moon and what is on Mars.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, that's a good question. I I at five years ago,
I heard this crazy, you know, ideas about there being
ill and boost is in the moon, and I'm thinking,
oh my god, here they go again. Yeah, and so
so then I started to do my own research, and
I was looking at things, you know, and a lot
of things I was finding on YouTube and stuff. And
(05:57):
then all of a sudden they were showing these pictures
of like airbrushed out stuff. And then all of a sudden,
I had a flashback. I was like, wait a second, no,
I've seen this before. I've seen this before. And then
I realized that when I was about five or six
years old, it was about nineteen seventy six, I used
to go to my doctor's office and he had this
(06:18):
huge book on the Moon. It was there, a picture book, yes,
and I would go to it and I'd pick it
up and go through all the papers to pages, and
you know, all the pictures that had with the astronauts
were crystal clear, really good quality. But then as you
got deeper into this book and they had pictures of
the craters and stuff like that, it was obvious that
there was things that were blurred out because they were
(06:39):
all black and white pictures. But there was stuff that
was blurred out. Now, I'm a kid, and I didn't
know what airbrushing was, but I was smart enough to
know that they were covering something up. And page after
page after page after page after page of air brushed
out stuff, and I didn't know what was going on.
I'd put the page over and see what's it covering up?
What is it that are covering up? And then you know,
(07:00):
like and then like twenty five years later, I see
the same images and realize, oh my god, it's all true.
And of course there's you know, there's a lot of
other stuff out there that people that you know, they
have actually captured of, you know, of things that are
on the alien bases on the Moon, and they've been
able to, you know, get closer pictures of it, so
you know they're they're up there. Why do you say
they've been up there for a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Why do you think there's a cover up. Why do
you think that the truth is being suppressed?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I think it has a lot to do with fear.
I think fears is ultimately what's controlling things the US,
the US government, the governments want to have control over
this when they know damn well that they don't have
control over it. But I think that they are trying
to remain like they like pretend like they do have
(07:51):
control over this because there's high technology that's involved, and
you know, anything can you know, alien you know, these
alien propulsion, some systems can be used, you know, as
as you know, advanced weaponry. And it's it's who has
a bigger stick. I think I had to deal a
lot to do with power control. I think.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Now, tell me what's your first memory of what got
you interested in the into the topic of aliens and UFOs.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I think that was that was it when I
was you know, when I was a kid and I
was first fascinated by the moon and you know, and
and wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid,
and you know, then I saw that book, and you know,
then I saw those pictures and I didn't what was
going on at the time, you know, it just didn't
make any sense. But then as I got older, you know,
into my teenage years, I had you know, more of
(08:42):
an interest in the US in UFOs and in high school.
That's when I was introduced to a bunch of guys
who were doing stuff, you know, studying Bob Lasar's claims
on his working you know, at Area fifty one. So
then I really started to get interested in in in
the subject. And then and you know, throughout when I
(09:02):
was another band, when I was in my twenties, that's
when X files came out, and I was really becoming
more and more fascinated, and I did a lot of
you know, my own research and you know, trying to
get more information about what was going on. You know,
I read you know, Bud Hopkins books, I read a communion,
you know, I read all that stuff, and it was
really you know, I really wanted to know more of
what was what was going on.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Have you yourself ever had a first hand experience.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, I finally, I finally did last year, and it
was it was quite incredible. I was right here in Hamilton.
It was August. It was August twenty first, ten thirty pm.
(09:49):
Because I live up on the mountain. You know, basically
we're Upper James and the link meet, and I was
looking looking south towards you know, south and Upper James,
that direction towards the airport right and and from the
from the right side of my neighbor's tree came out
of came out of nowhere into view. At first, what
(10:10):
I thought was with a meteorite moving across the sky,
because it was this. It was orange and red, and
it seemed to be having this it was like this
trail covering it that was kind of streaming behind it,
like its energy stream. Looked like it was on fire.
I didn't know what the heck I was looking at right,
but but it was. It was definitely disc shaped, and
(10:33):
it moved across the sky, and I was like, going,
what the heck is this? What is this thing? It
was maybe like you know, maybe a kilometer high and
maybe a kilometer away, and it was it probably you know,
from that it must have been at least forty or
fifty feet in diameter, and it moved across the sky.
And then as it was moving towards the Bimbrook, and
then as it was moving away, it got darker in
(10:53):
appearance and appeared to have this white vortex umbrella like
swirling coming, you know, kind of covering it, which I
thought maybe maybe that was, you know, what I was seeing.
I didn't know what I was looking at. But after it,
after it disappeared, I was like thinking, oh my god,
I think I just saw UFO. And I got on
(11:16):
the phone and called my wife and said, I just
think I saw a UFO. Yeah. So I reported it,
you know, I reported it to UPON, and I reported
it to the UFO Reporting Center of Washington, d C.
UPON took a complete report on it, and and I
had waited to hear back from them, and I never did.
(11:36):
So I didn't know what what happened, but I'll tell you, like, yeah,
like it just it really affected me because like I
had always hoped to see a UFO, and then when
I finally did, I didn't know how to rationally grasp
on the idea. I didn't believe it was a UFO.
(11:56):
For two weeks, I struggled trying to figure out, you know,
there must be a rational explanation for what it was
that I saw. There had to be some down to
earth reasoning. But then the more and more I thought
about what I saw, the more I realized there was
more peculiar things about it. And the other thing that
was so strange about it was that it was too dimensional,
(12:17):
two dimensional, too dimensional. That's right, And people ask me
what do you mean by that? Well, picture are solar eclips? Yeah,
that's that's two dimensional. It's got heype, it's got width,
it has no depth. It looks like a hole in
this guy, that's what the thing looked like. It was
just disc shaped, orange and red. No dimension. Nothing I've
(12:41):
ever seen in a movie or in the real life
is two dimensional. How do you explain that?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Good point? So, how did you feel when you were
when you were watching this, uh, this UFO? Would you
did you feel as if you were being contacted? Were
you know, was there any How did you feel?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Here you are, You're up on Upper James and the Link.
You're looking towards the airport. You see this thing in
the sky bang you realize it's a UFO. How did
you feel?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well? Well, as I said, like when I was when
I was looking at it, I didn't know what I
was looking at, And I honestly didn't think I was
looking at a UFO. I was too busy analyzing and
trying to understand what it was I was looking at.
Because the incident only lasted a total of maybe two minutes.
If I had stepped out of my porch. Two minutes
earlier or two minutes later, I would have never seen him.
(13:33):
I would have never seen him. So as it came
across the sky, I was just looking at it, going
like what is that?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What is that? What was that thing? Because it was
moving with the speed of a helicopter. It was moving
really slow, and it's like it was covered. You know,
It's the way I was looking. And honestly, for two
weeks afterwards, I was upset. I was. I was upset.
I was I it was hard to explain. I was
like I was. It's like my world was broken. It's like,
(14:03):
this is real, this is like what am I looking at?
What's happening? I didn't understand. I couldn't. I couldn't grasp
with it. I would have thought that if I saw
UFO would be really excited. I wasn't. I was. I
didn't know how to react to it. It was like
his world was life changing. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I do, and it's rather strange. Yeah, you know
we I just had one of my producers check the
National UFO Reporting Center, and your sighting is not listed.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's what I was going to get to. Yeah, that's
what I'm going to get to when I went to
When I went, that's well, I went to the Alien
Cosmic Convention, and I'll get to grants presentation the second. Like,
oh my god, he's just absolutely amazing. But he's the
(14:54):
reason why I went. I went to the Alien Cosmic
because my wife told me about the Alien Cosmic and
then I I looked it up and I looked at
the schedule and saw he was talking about musicians and
UFOs and stuff. I'm like, oh my god, this thing's
meant for me. I'm supposed to go to this, right
And so that's why I went. But when I went there,
one of the booths was was mute Fun and I
(15:15):
have my drawings with me that because I drew that.
I drew the pictures. I drew exactly what I saw.
And I walked up to them and didn't say a word.
I just put the pictures on the table. They turned around,
looked at the pictures, looked up at me and went,
oh my god, I'm so glad you're here. We're doing
a presentation on you tomorrow. I'm like, what, I haven't
even heard from you guys. He says, yeah, he says,
(15:38):
you your case is one of the most authentic cases
that we've had, and we're part of our presentation Tomorrow'm
glad you showed up. I'm like, really, well, I said,
I haven't heard from you guys, Like how many other
people saw it? And he says, that's the thing, You're
the only one. And I'm like, that's impossible. I'm in
(15:59):
the Hamilton, I'm in the city of five hundred thousand people.
This thing was forty or fifty feet in diameter, it
was glowing, it was massive, and it was moving through
the sky at ten thirty at night. It wasn't even
that late. I can't be the only one who saw it.
He says, well, sorry, buddy, but no one else reported it.
So I'm really freak that now. I'm like, this doesn't
(16:21):
make any sense. This just doesn't make any sense. And
so then I went up to Grant, you know, and
I handed him my CD and he was really excited
to see me and stuff, and you know, then we
had a chance to meet have lunch and I was
telling me he's actually said, yeah, I saw the presentation
from Ufahon and they showed your photos and they were
looking for you. And I was like, yeah, I know,
(16:41):
I couldn't make it. I was only a will afford
to go to two, you know, the true shows, and
so we would won't sit down and have lunch. And
I told him, look, you know, this is what mew
Fon said. He said, like they said, I'm the only
person who saw this thing, and you only said no,
this is what he said. He says, you know what,
that is not uncommon. He says the same thing happened
(17:03):
to John Lennon. When John Lennon had saw his UFO,
it was like everybody in the city was shut down.
There was no lights on, the apartments below him were
around and everybody. He was yelling at everybody, trying to
get eybody's attention, and he couldn't find anybody. Nobody was around.
And even you know, his wife at the time said,
(17:24):
you know, she used the excuse that everybody was down
at this club whatever, this famous club, and they're all
that's where they were that night because it was Friday night.
But after, you know, I can think they had a
new chance to reinterview and she said, yeah, I know,
it doesn't make any sense. So what Grant was telling
me was that it's done in common where you know,
people are being chased down a highway by a UFO
(17:46):
and they're flying at you know, you know, not one
hundred miles an hour, trying to get away from this thing.
And then when they're asked questions about the highways, is
this h this highway? Were there any other cars? Like, no,
there wasn't he says, is this a busy highway? Normally
says yeah, it always cars us highway? He says, don't
you think it's kind of strange that you're the only one?
And for what what Grant is saying is that the
(18:08):
these extraterrestrials have the ability of being able to shut
people down or you know, they're able to shut people down,
and so only one person can experience it. But the
other thing that you talked about and soon getting back
to about is about his presentation was the connection between
uphology and neurology and that the aliens, the extraterrestrials, are
(18:32):
trying to help us get to a higher level of
consciousness and all these downloads that are happening to people,
and you know the explanation of how savants can do
all these multiple you know, create calculations without having you
know that the answers has come to them or or
how all these you know, all these you know are
like Einstein and Steve Jobs, you know, contribute a lot
(18:57):
of their their invention to you know, using LSD or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But let me let me ask you this. Let me
ask you, Let me ask you this. Why do you
think there is so there's such a vast difference in
in in what Grant Cameron is saying compared to what
the established scientific community and medical community and your neuro
neuroscience community is saying, Like there's really no connection. And
(19:25):
and I listened to Grant's presentation and I had a
hard time trying to make the connection between the established
sciences and what he's saying. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think that that our consciousness is that is we are.
There's so much more to our consciousness that we're using
a small portion of our brains. And and a lot
of it has to do with our left you know,
analytical irrational side that tries to take over the establishments
in the right brain. That the right brain where where
(20:04):
it is the it's connected to one and all and
and ononness and and and everything is one. And you
know that's where esp comes through. That's where precognition comes through.
That's where downloads come through. It's that's where that's where
you know, I find it. You know, the infinite universe
comes from. Is the right brain to create a side.
(20:26):
That's the part that cannot speak.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
If and if the hypothesis that is put out by
Grant Cameron is correct, how come more and more people
aren't coming forward with these download revelations as well as
these sightings. You know, like when you check the archives
and you check the Internet for August thirty first, twenty fourteen,
(20:51):
there is not one UFO sighting. And like you say,
city of Hamilton, five hundred thousand people. You've got you've
got the airport up on the mountain, and you've got
Toronto Pearson International, you have Buffalo, you have Niagara Falls.
No anomalies tracked on Raider Transport Canada. No anomalies tracked
on Raider. How do we explain this?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I wish I could explain it. I mean, why is
that I'm the only person who saw this thing? Because
I know that I saw it right, and I think
it from what I from what I believe it has
to do with it has to do with consciousness. I
mean my music. I I I've striven, strive my entire
life to create music that is a completely flow of
(21:38):
from conscious you know, from basically the right side of
the brain. And I've been compared to like, you know,
guitar players like David Gilmore. He's one of the most
emotional players out there. And that's what I strive for,
is complete total emotion and under you know one this
with with with God. You know Hendrix too, he's he's
he's my top you know, favorite guitar player too. And
(22:00):
he was connected to the university. He actually was you know,
had UFO experiences. I think that perhaps, you know, these
aliens want me to be a spokesperson for them somehow,
and they chose me to see this thing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All right, okay, but have you had you know, we're
talking nearly a year ago. Have you had any connection
with them since then?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No? No, nothing. I keep going out of the porch
hoping I'll see that again. Yeah, I haven't had anything.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
If they wanted you to be a spokesperson for them,
wouldn't there be more than a sighting. Wouldn't there be
some telepathic communication. Wouldn't you have the evidence of a download,
like you were a musician before you saw this thing. Yeah,
so wouldn't. I'm just asking you because I find it.
I find it interesting, And if if I wanted somebody
(22:52):
to be my spokesperson, I wouldn't wait over nearly a
year before I get back to them.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I know I can't. I I'm still trying to pe
put all the pieces together. And I think what I'm
gonna do is like I've met with a lot of hypnotists,
hypnotists at the convention, and I'm going to be meeting
with a couple of them and and and go under,
go under, and see if there's something more that I should.
(23:19):
You know that that's been repressed with me because I
honestly feel like I've been you know, I've always felt
like an outsider, and I've been on a on a
on a on a question a path as a you know,
as a as a as like a you call it,
like a pioneer. And it just now that this, you know,
it's like they think, like as Grant Cameron has put it,
(23:39):
you know, the aliens want us to believe, but just
a little bit, so they leave little breadcrumbs you know,
here and there, you know, just leaving a little bit
of evidence for you to try and you know, look
around and see what who who left us here? And
after I found out that, you know, that I was
the only person to see this thing, I got to
find out why it has to be a reason for it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Has there been any change in your life that you
can say, all right? I had this sighting August thirty first,
twenty fourteen, and since then, something has changed in my
life that I can't attribute to anything else except what
I saw. Because I believe that these the occupants of
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whatever this was I saw this, UFO want me to
be their spokesman.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think what's changed a lot in the last last
year or so has been my dedication to me promoting
my music and getting it out there, and getting myself
out there and talking to people about it and talking
about my experiences. And that's why I do what I'm
(24:49):
on the radio. I talk as much about my experiences
as I do about my music because mostly because I
want people to know me. I want people to like
to connect with me, you know, not just you know,
some musician. Uh, you know, I'm a real person who's
who's got these strange things that are happening with him.
So I and I put absolutely all my energies in
the last year into my music to get my new
(25:10):
CD out, and I'm really hoping that, you know, I
think this is gonna be my breakout CD, my new CD, Ecocosmic.
It's it's it's just it's a great, great, you know,
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, But tell me, when you're talking to people and
you tell them about your UFO experience and and what
you believe, how do they react.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Most of them are very are very excited about it.
They want to know more. And the things that, you know,
I start telling them about things about the moon or
about you know, Mars, they're just floored, like they just
didn't know, they didn't have any idea. Or you know,
when I start talking about the rings of Saturn or
you know, the you know, the anomaly as a Saturn,
(25:54):
maybe they get you know, they're they're really curious about
that too. There's just so much that's out there that
we're sure that we're that we're touching base on and
try and understand. People need to, you know, to waken
and realize this. If it's okay to step out of
your comfort zone, it's okay because if they're here and
it's for us to understand what is going on and
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try and get an understanding for the larger.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Picture, why don't they make themselves known once and for all.
What are they? What? What are they hiding from? What?
Because if if they have anything but benevolent reasons for
coming to this to this planet, whether it's to watch us,
or whether it's to help us to whether it's to
bring us to a higher level of consciousness, why do
(26:39):
they hide behind the anonymity? Why not come forward? Why
not say we are here, this is why we are here.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, I have some good talks with you know, several
people at the convention.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, no, no, I don't want to hear what they said.
I want to hear what you say. What I ye,
what you believe?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I think it's a lot of what they're what what
they're what they were saying too, I it's what I
think too. I believe that that that they are trying
to help us on the spiritual journey, trying to get
us to reach a level higher level of consciousness. But
they seem to not have any care about how long
(27:26):
it takes. It's not like they're on a timeline. They
don't you know there. I think maybe their concepts of
time is different than ours, but that they're helping us
slowly awaken, awaken our consciousness to higher levels of consciousness.
I think that might be it. And I don't think
you can do it through force, and think it has
(27:46):
to be done through through everybody's own awakening. You can't,
you know, just knock, you know, land on on, you know,
the White House and say, okay, we're here to to
to teach you this. Why not, we're trying to help
you with this?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Why not? It doesn't it seem strange that they're doing
this all in a covert method instead of just coming.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Up for the thing. It's kind of like the same
thing like Jesus did that you know, doesn't happen to
Jesus came the Chris you have.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But Jesus was out there. Jesus was out there. He
went and made himself in front of the people. He
wasn't afraid to let the people know what he was
talking about. He wasn't afraid to let his anyone who
would listen to him talk about God, the you know,
and and saving yourself. He was front and center. But
you know, when it comes to these these extraterrestrials. They
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always do everything in a covert method. And this is
my greatest concern because they are not front and center.
They are doing everything behind the scenes. And in my
you know, it just doesn't seem logical that they would
want to do everything that is positive for humanity and
(29:04):
for the world and stay back underground, Yeah, underground on
other planets that monitor us. Whatever the case, why not
just face us and say this is we have been
here for thousands of years. You're right, Earthlings, we have
(29:26):
been here. You're right, Earthlings, we are the we are
these the the the lights in the sky. This is
why we have been doing it. Bang. I've heard the
I've heard the the reason being that religion would cease
(29:46):
to exist, society, we'd go into turmoil, you know. And
and I don't think we're giving ourselves enough credit as
a human race, if this is what we really think.
I think that we don't give ourselves enough credit. And
when when we as a human race do something that
(30:07):
even shocks us, well, god, it's got to be the extraterrestrials.
We can't do this. It's just like the stories about
reverse engineering. If in fact reverse engineering is real. How
come we're still using solid rocket propulsion to go to Mars.
You know, there's so many things that just don't add
up in my mind. That's my opinion. But I didn't,
(30:31):
you know, I wasn't with you, Kevin, the night that
you had your sighting. I don't doubt you that you
saw something. I really don't. I see. I want to
be a believer. I want to believe so bad. However,
in order for me to believe, I want to see
the proof. I'm just not going to take the word
(30:54):
of the masses. I want to see the proof. Does
that makes sense, Nope.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I can beleely makes sense?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And I wish, I wish, I wish I had better answers.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, you know, it's it's we're all seeking answers. I
don't think there's one person on the face of the
earth who, at one time or another seeks answers. A
lot of people seek their answers in different religions. Gosh,
I know so many people who go from religion to religion,
to religion to the religion because they can't find the
(31:33):
answer that they're searching for. And I don't think it's
right that people should have to go through this much
turmoil to find answers if there are those with the knowledge,
and I'm talking about the ets who have the knowledge
to finally give these people on this planet the answers
(31:57):
we're looking for. For example, if you're an extent, if
you're an advanced race, can't you help us with the
with the climate problem? Can't you help us with the
sicknesses that are killing people of this planet. Can you
help us come up with a way to feed everyone.
You must have this knowledge if you can traverse time
and space. But yet they don't. And you mentioned Jesus before.
(32:26):
Jesus fed multitudes. In other religious philosophies, the prophets go
out of their way to help people, to give them
the answers they're looking for. And yet when it comes
to the extraterrestrial connection, answers are very sparse. This is
(32:48):
you know, this is my concern, Like, why, if you're there,
say hello, work with us instead of putting so many
people in doubt of their own sanity. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And I've listened to Grant a number of times he's
entitled his opinion. You know, I've been doing this show
a number of years. I've had the pleasure of talking
to many people over the years, and they too are
seeking answers. They don't have the answers, they are seeking
(33:27):
the answers. One of the most convincing speakers I've ever
heard of Stanton Friedman. You know, this guy takes you
from A to Z. He doesn't skip any of the
alphabet getting you there, and basically he says, I'm not
going to force feed you make your own conclusions based
on the information. M you know, and there were so
(33:52):
there's so many people with so many stories that it's
hard not to say there's nothing out there, there's nothing
to these I want to know what's out there. I
want to know what's at the end of the story.
I can hear the passion in your music, and thank
you very much for sending us those two tracks. They're wonderful.
(34:14):
I can tell by what I've read about you, your
passion in music, and I have no doubt you're going
to be a superstar. I really have no doubt whatsoever.
I too want to know what's out there. I too
want to know is there more? Are we alone? You know,
(34:38):
like there's so many people using so many methods to
find the same answer. Something's got to give somewhere. You know,
it's and it's frustrating, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It's very frustrating. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, yeah,
I've met a lot of people who have had, you know,
close encounters and you'll you'll have many, many of them.
And I met even more over the weekend. Yeah, and
you know, we're all we're all searching answers exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And you know what another point of contention with me
is that the UFO community, the different organizations, the different groups,
they do not share the information. And to me, that
is that is so stupid. You know, everybody wants to
find the smoking gun. Do it together, because you're doing
(35:34):
it for the same cause. Share the information. Peter Davenport
at the National UFO Reporting Center, he puts his information
for everyone to see. God bless Peter. Love the guy.
You know, he he's been doing this for years and
everything comes out of his pocket. He finances it, but
(35:58):
he shares it. All the information you want to know
about UFO sightings, all you have to do is go
to THEFO, the National UFO Reporting Center, and it's there.
The guy is trying to make a positive difference. But
when you speak to people like us Do Bundy at
Mouffon of Canada, and you talk to our organizations, they
don't share the information. And I can't understand this. You know,
(36:22):
law enforcement, as I'm sure that everyone knows. In the
United States they have NCIC of the National Crime Information Center,
and here in Canada we have SEAPICKS the Canadian Police
Information Center. First of all, SEAPICK and NCIC talk to
each other. Every law enforcement agency in Canada and the
(36:44):
United States feeds their feeds their information into either SEAPICK
or NCIC. Interpol has access to these data banks and people,
and I'm sorry other countries in the world alls so
apply give Interpol access to their banks because they're all
(37:05):
working on the same thing. They're all working to, you know,
to catch bad guys or whatever the case may be,
and yet solve crimes. There's another good reasons. But yet
when it comes to the UFO community, everybody wants to
work on their own and if if there was if
(37:30):
there was a correlation of all the different UFO authors,
all the UFO researchers, everybody's got their own theory. Everybody
has a different reason for Roswell or for Secora, or
whatever the case may be. Shag harbor up here in Canada.
(37:53):
Everybody has their own idea, their own belief, their own research.
If the phenomenon was as how can I say this
as real? Well, yeah, transparent? That's good, that's a good one.
If the UFO phenomenon was as real as people say
(38:17):
it is, wouldn't there be a level of consistency in
all the different books, all the different DVDs instead of
all the different hypotheses.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah? Yeah, and yet hear you organized, Yeah, it was
treated more like a science.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Exactly Exactly when you have the director of a part
of Muffon who sends out a press release saying that
he knows why Malaysian Airlines Flight three P seventy has
not been found is because it was abducted by a
mothership and that the aircraft and all the crew were
(39:00):
taken away abducted by a UFO. That didn't even go
good within the UFO community. But with these white with
these with these claims that just pop out of nowhere,
and with all the false flags that the UFO community
(39:22):
itself has given to mainstream media, what do you expect
mainstream media to do when somebody says, hey, listen, I
know what I saw, and I'm not talking about you here.
I am not talking about you here, Kevin. This is
what I saw, and it's not taken seriously anymore because
they've been burned so many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
(39:46):
And and then here you come along, and the sincerity
you're talking in your voice. I can only imagine how
frustrated you are.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I think what frustrated me so much was I never
heard from UFON again, and here they were doing a
presentation on.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Me that is one hundred percent wrong. Is that, my friend,
I find inexcusable.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
How did you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Feel when you found out that, even though they hadn't
contacted you, they're using the information that you gave them
as part of the president actually pardon.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
A little bamboozled, a little bamboozled, you know, especially when
they said it was one of the more authentic cases
they had. Will It would be nice if you had
told me that, right. I didn't even bother contact me
because I've been sitting around for a year thinking I'm
going crazy, and I go on, I'd go on, you know,
I chew my research and you know, type in UFO
was and type in that that date and there's nothing.
(40:46):
It's like, okay, there's nothing. Nobody else has a report
of anything, and nobody come back to me. It's like, okay,
what's going on? I don't know? Yeah, anybody else see it.
It's like there's I had no idea, idea that that
was the only one who saw it. No idea, And
it still doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Did you listen to the talk that Moufon gave on
your on your sighting.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
No, I didn't because I, as I said, like I
was only able to afford to go to two.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
You mean that Moufon would not even invite you in
to listen to the presentation that you had supplied them.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
No, I wasn't really invited though.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Well wait, you know here you've got the guy, and
apparently the people at Moufon were excited because you were there.
They told you that this was how did they phrase it,
a very credible case?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, a credible case. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
And here you are the person who saw the UFO
who I invited.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, I wasn't invited to attens.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Now, and here you are there in Branford. We're in
Hamilton twenty minutes down the highway. See, this is what
bamboozles me about the UFO community. It's not the experiencer
like you. My heart goes out to you, guys. It's
(42:14):
the organizations that everyone puts their trust in who lets
them down. Yeah, listen, my friend, you and I have
to got to take a commercial break. We're going to
be back in about two minutes. When I come back exponation,
I'm going to play a super song. This is Kevin
(42:35):
Estrella's song that he sent to us that we're going
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www dot pyramids on Mars dot com. That's www dot
pyramids on Mars dot com. My name is Rob McConnell.
(42:58):
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Speaker 1 (47:22):
Welcome back everyone. You're listening to the Battle of Rome,
composed and played by my guest this hour, Kevin Estrilla
from right here in Hamilton. His website is www dot
Pyramids on mars dot com. Love your music, man, you
get right to the meat of it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
After attending the Alien Cosmic Convention, Kevin, did you take
anything away with you from the from the experience and
the speakers you met, and the people you met.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I think I got a lot of answers, things that
I felt that I was striving towards, especially with Grant's
presentation on neurology and uphology. And you know, I've been
I reached a point of enlightenment. I remember exactly the
(48:21):
moment of the moment where I reached my point of enlightenment.
And I've been striving to, you know, to get to
that keep of that level of consciousness or strive towards
at eighty of enlightenment all my life. And that moment
was back when I was in university and I was
listening to Jimmy Hendrix live at Monterey and it was
(48:41):
at the moment of the solo at the the guitar
solo of Foxy Lady, and I was air guitaring and
I all of a sudden, I hit this moment of
absolute complete oneness with the universe. It's so hard to describe,
but I hit it and I felt it, and it
was like everything became one. And that's what I realized,
where that's what I wanted to That's where I wanted
(49:02):
to be. That's that's the state of mind I wanted
to be, and so I've always strived for that and
in my music to to to reach for that same plateau.
And that's that's where I go with my music. I mean,
Hendricks is he was beyond anything that nobody else was doing.
And you know, if like my spirit resonates with what
he's doing and from what Grant's been talking about about,
(49:25):
you know, this level of consciousness rising in people. It
makes sense to me, and I'm going to continue to
do it and his to talk about, you know, the relationship,
which relationship between musicians and UFOs and aliens made a
lot of sense to me. Yeah, and I can relate
(49:47):
to it obviously for my own experiences. And now I'm
I'm saying I think I'm starting to become one of
these guys. I think I always have been actually, so
now I have a lot of answers, with a lot
of answers, but I also have a lot of questions.
You know, I walked away and found out that nobody
else saw what I saw. Right now, I got to
find out, Okay, maybe there's more I need to do.
(50:07):
Maybe more I need to do some more homework, Maybe
I need to go under hypnotic aggression. Maybe there's more
that I'm blocking. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
How has your your new found consciousness, You're this new
revelation that that you attribute to listening to to Jimmy Hendrix,
how has this affected your your personal religious philosophy, your
personal religious beliefs.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm a I'm a devout Catholic. I actually there actually
was a period of darkness between two thousand and twenty
ten where I stopped going to church and stop believing.
It probably the most darkest point of my spiritual being.
And I blamed God for everything that was going bad
(51:00):
life and to break up my band and stuff, and
I lost touch with my music and I couldn't even
feel a guitar anymore. But then I went back to church.
And it wasn't instantaneous, but after a period of six weeks,
I led Jesus back into my heart. And you know,
I spent years reading, you know, reading books about how
(51:21):
to get inspiration, how to write music right and find inspiration,
and Jesus gave it back to me instantaneously like that.
And and then's when I started writing my first Pyramids
on song, Pyramids on Mars songs. And I haven't stopped.
And my creativity is it never been better in my
entire life. And I think I thank Christ for.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
That, and I believe it's just going to get better
and better and better Yeah, Kevin, I want to thank
you so much for joining us letter. Our listeners know
how they can find out more about you and where
they can get your music.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
You can find my music. You can listen to my
music all at period. Www dot pyramids on Mars dot com.
I just released by new CD Echocosmic. You can listen
to it right there. You can pick it up. In fact,
I just released it. It's in a pre release right now.
If I dropped the price, you can pick it up
the whole CD for only six ninety nine. It's a
(52:15):
steel but never mind the price it's worth. It's worth.
It's priceless. This is the best instrumental rock album. It's
going to come out in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
All right, man, if you like you know, if you like.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Sat Training and vibe it like a like, like ahead
the heavier lake metalica, that's where're gonna find it.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
All right, Kevin, take care of yourself. Thanks very much
for sharing with us tonight here on the X Zone
x O Nation. Kevin Estrella has been my guest this
hour Www dot pyramids on Mars dot com. I'll be
back on the other side at the top of the hour.
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