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Speaker 1 (00:01):
That's oh hnry. Welcome to the X Zone, a place
where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now here's your host, Robert konnell.
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a million pieces.
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Like you always do.
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you the time.
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Good evening, one and all, and welcome back to the
X Zone. My name is Rob mcconnellin. For the next
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is the number, and I'll tell you something exponation. I've
got somebody very special in studio tonight. We usually don't
have people here in the studio, as you know, we
talk to people from all over the world. But have
you ever heard the expression behind every successful man is
a woman. Well, that has never been so true, you know.
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That's what it is. In my case. Joining me here
in studio is the lovely Laura Rogers. She's also my wife,
best friend, and she is the senior executive producer of
all the ex owned programs and all the productions that
we produce on realm AAR. First of all, hey Laura,
nice seeing you on this side of the glass for
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a change.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Nice to talk to you this way, Robbie Micro.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Great pleasure.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The other night I had Julia Ryan on the show
and we were talking about Julia's business. She was an entrepreneur,
she's done so much fortune five hundred companies, startup companies.
But she's also how did she call herself? She called
herself a medical scanner. But what really interests me about
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what Julia talks about are angels and it's no surprise
or nothing new that anyone who has a little child
they talk to their parents about angels. They see angels,
they see invisible people, they see their best friends. And
you know that is so true. And I remember when
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Belinda was a little girl, she'd walk around with two
rolls of toilet paper telling me they were her best friends.
And who was I to say? Right?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Most parents squash the ideas, and.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Children, yes, but as you know, you and I are
very liberal minded. We believe that anything is possible. And
we were talking about I remember one of our grandsons, Calvin,
when he was a little boy, was talking to us
about angels.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
And he had a lot of questions, didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
He Yeah, he did. And you know, like I think
this is great when children ask questions and they're not
poo pooed, because it seems that society will allow certain
fictional characters to exist with the child. But when the
child comes and says, you know, mummy, I've seen an angeler, Mummy,
I saw Grandma who passed away a number of years ago.
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Or even the children who have come forward and been
proven to have the ability to regress hypnotically into a
different lifetime, This is all being proved scientifically, it's being
proved in medical facilities. So why do you think people
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foo foo what they don't see but children see?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well, I think it's like most things, Robabily, we fear
what we don't know. As we age, we realize all
these things that could be could be harmful, you know.
And with children as open as they are, they see
things for what they truly are. They see angels as
a child comes to you and says, like, our grandson,
did you know, how come the angel did this? And
how come the angel? You know, all the angels you
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got in your house, Grandma, the angel don't look like that.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And when we asked, okay, baby, what does he look like?
We were given a simple description of what he saw
to be an angel. And I wish I was a
better artist where I could actually draw it out because
it was quite remarkable. But as we age, we poop
poo these things. Back to why you asked, because we
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can't prove it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think there's another reason behind what we poo poo
and what we don't. It's all a matter of money.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
True, for example, big party.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Exactly, you know, like we tell children that angels aren't real,
or they didn't see Grandma, or whatever the case may be.
But Santa Claus. Whoa let's all tell the children about
Santa Claus. Why because people money off of Christmas sales.
Then we tell them about the occult, the supernatural. That's
no good. It's scary, except on Halloween when we go
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dressed up as little demons or devils or whatever, going
door to door asking for candy. But wait, yeah, but
didn't didn't Mommy tell us we shouldn't take candy from stream.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Well, let's let's get mixed messages there.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well, and Santa Claus didn't start out as a myth.
I mean, he was, you know, Saint Nicholas, who gave
the children toys that he had made of his own accord,
his own hands, as a good deed. So we just
commercialized it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We commercialize anything we can, and we discourage anything that
can't be commercialized.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Well to a point. I like to think positively a
lot of times, but you certainly make a point.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know, when children are in school, they're there they
learn in a world fantasy. Jack and Jill go down
the hill. You've got the old lady who lives in
a shoe. You've got the man who keeps his wife
in a pumpkin shell, talk about abuse. Then you've got
a cow that jumps over a moon.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Do you think that's still going on though? Today?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Definitely to they's kids, Definitely.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Nursery rhymes and yeah, I don't know, I haven't seen
so much of it anymore. I kind of missed the
old stories that we used to tell the kids out
of fun and at a plan, telling them that, you know,
don't worry, it's just for just for fun, it's just
a story.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But these stories opened up the imaginations of the children.
And I think that this was one of the most
important value that we used to have way back when
was we wanted our children to have an imagination. We
wanted our children to know that they could be anything
that they wanted to be. Absolutely But now you know,
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look how many times have you and I gone into
a restaurant and sat down have supper, the two of us,
and there's a family of four or five at another table,
not talking, not communicating.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
All of them on their cell phones. Yeah, yeah, quite
often unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, I'm proud to say the other day when son
took me out for dinner, with the two grandsons. I
was so impressed. The grandsons were like little gentlemen, even
though they're like six and eight, they were little gentlemen.
They minded their manners, they colored in their boxes. We
told jokes, and well juvenile jokes, but it was it
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was fun, it was warm, it was family oriented. There's there.
They're just open and loving. And I like the imagination
that they come up with their stories.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It because people forget it was. It was the imagination
that got us to the moon. It was the imagination
that came up with all this great farm industry tools
that we have. Whether you're young or old, if you
come up with an idea and you're set on that
idea and you want to follow the idea, you know
my old saying it, the difference between a dream and
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reality is just doing it. So when people come up
with the idea of farm equipment or you know, rocket
engines or better radio communications or flying or yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Like the Right brothers, Yeah that was a dream they'd
always had. Yeah, you don't see the inventions that clearly anymore.
They don't seem to come out of the woodwork, like
I'm going to fly. Most things I guess have been
accomplished in the in the greater scheme of things flying,
the computer generation that we have. I think I'm afraid
of more change. I don't want that to progress anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh. I think the future is bright, it's beautiful if
if it's not manipulated for the wrong reasons, for example,
artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Now, when have you ever known us to manipulate science
to a negative?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Where do we start more than my show?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know there's so much that is a can be
out there that that I don't understand why there are
still people who are hungry, Why there are still people
who are thirsty?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Show too. Yeah, it's you know, we shouldn't have that problem.
But then we went and genetically modified all our food.
Finding out now it really doesn't do the trick but patrician, but.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We had to. There was no there was no other
way to feed the masses, you know, unless Jesus comes
down and he brings down those baskets that have endless
supplies of fish in them, don't. I don't know what's
going to happen, I really don't. I think we all
need to get together, forget any religious stigma, forget any
other thing, whether you're white, black, yellow, pink, blue, purple,
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whatever color, and get together. Not the politicians. Not the politicians,
they screw things up, but the people who can actually
make a difference, the educators.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Have you ever noticed how how religion is at the
base of all war. Isn't it enough to just respect
each other's differences and say you believe God? Is that way? Okay,
that's fine, you know, good for you, and I'll believe
my beliefs. But shake hands, walk away. I don't know,
cook dinner, make burgers, but just respect each other enough
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to allow the differences to just be. But all the
wars all in the name of religion. God help us.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, when I was a kid, I was brought
up in Park Extension, and that was the multicultural area
of Montreal, and we went to school with Jewish kids,
Italian kids, great kids, Chinese kids, you name it. We
were there and you know what, we were friends. We
would go to each other's homes and celebrate and learn
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about their holidays.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
You enjoying the multicultural differences in food.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, yeah, what is wrong with Mama Tatin fish or
Anti Betsy's hall and dishes? There's nothing wrong with it?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
No, and there's a lot more to be gained than
just the food I make just but yes, if we
only just opened our eyes and closed our mouths more often,
we might go a lot farther.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
X O Nation, we have to take our break here.
My name Marv McConnell. My wife, Laura Rodgers is our
special guest in the studio tonight. Laura is the lady
behind roalmar McConnell Media Company. She's also the senior executive
producer of all our productions radio, TV and publishing. Great
having her here so she can see what we do
here at night. And we'll be back as the Xzone
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continues from her studios and corporate offices in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
on the xone broadcast network and on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty streaming on around the world a Classic
twelve twenty dot ca. If you'd like to send me
an email, X Zone at Classic twelve twenty dot Ca
is the magic address. And by the way, the X
Chronicles newspaper is still available at www dot x Chronicles
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dot net. We'll be back on the other side of
this break.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Donuncle away, ladies and gentlemen, the Man's song.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't take no crap from anybody else but you.
I wear the pants around here when I finished with
your laundry, because I'm a guy. You don't want to fight.
When I say jump, you say yeah right.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
I'm the man of this house.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Something you get porn.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
The man.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What I say goes around here, right out the window.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
And I don't want to hear a lot of whining,
so I'll shut up the sooner you learn whose boss
around here, the sooner you can give me my orders
cure because I'm head hontrol around here, but I call
him my head.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And I can have sex anytime that you want, because
I'm a man who has knees, but they're not that important.
I don't expect any flowers from me, because if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You prefer dual. I'm the king of my castle.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
When you're not around. Man, he's the man, and I'm
drink and watch sports whenever i want to get in trouble,
and I'll come home when i'm good.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
At ready to sleep on the couch because a.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Man's gotta do, and a man's gotta do, and I'm
gonna do what you tell me to because I'm top
dog around here.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But I've been you the man and welcome back. Hey,
what are you having about her?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I just love that. Oh yeah, grandson man.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Welcome back to the x ON everyone. I'm Rob McCallum.
My wife Laura is with us tonight and we're gonna
be going down memory lane because you know, since COVID
that that horrible, horrible affair that we all went through,
there have been more podcasts that have sprung up than
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ever before in history. Every One who has a microphone,
who has a camera, they can have their own podcast
and they now. Gosh, even Costco is selling podcast kits.
You've got the earphones and the microphone and whatever you needed.
And you know what, I get offended because professionals, a
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lot of professionals out there spend years and years and
years and years not only in colleges learning radio and
broadcasting like over here at Niagara College, but they start
at the bottom of the stations, usually interning for about
six months. Most of them don't get paid for anything,
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and then when they do get an on airshift, it's
the crappiest shift and they get the lowest amount of
money and then they work their way up and then
to see companies like Bell Canada let go of four
eight hundred professionals wow, after they left a couple more
thousand go last year. And what is happening now, Well,
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you've got all the podcasters who are online. There's a
lot of good, good stuff out there, believe me, but
there's also a lot of crap. And what it's doing
is congesting the the different platforms like Rumbull, like YouTube
and all the other all the other platforms that are
out there. So there's even now professional broadcasters who got
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let go from Bell Canada who are starting their own
podcast and they're trying to come back with this new technology.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
No, Rob God, I hate to quote Trump. What I'm
going to is this anything like fake news too? That
when you listen to some of these podcasts, like are
you hearing hardcore evidence of what they're saying?
Speaker 11 (17:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Hell no?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So, in fact, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but a
lot of these podcasts now are being done by artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Seriously, seriously, I did not know.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That there are AI packages out there where you read
a script in your voice and you can select the
voice that you would like to be. That's what happened
with Joe Rogan a couple of months ago when he
had our Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on his show. Just
Intrudeau wasn't on the show. It was artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Wow, So he had his AI say whatever he wanted
exactly to sound like the oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, and then with Ali.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Could cause a lowful lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I would think it can, and it is, especially the
fake news, because there's no way to validate what comes on.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yes, yes, I can see that causing so much trouble.
Don't we deserve to have authentic, true information that when
we plug in or turn turn on, well, yeah, you know,
I look forward to turning it, tuning in and learning something.
I don't want to be deceived again. How do we
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get around that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We need to get back to the old age of
journalism where you had professionals who actually did the research,
who weren't armchair reporters who just scoured the internet for stories.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And they're selective too. I'm finding if they're paid enough,
they will admit a story. I've learned that firsthand. We've
seen here in our own neighborhood where there's a story
that should be told, and it's hush hushed because it
isn't good for somebody in power. That's right, Let's just
do it that way. Yeah, you know, we should be
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able to learn the facts. That's what our news and
our announcers and the credibility should be behind.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's right. I agree the day of Dan rather Cronkite.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yes, they're icons in the field, these people. It mattered
what they said, It mattered to them what they said.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And then to throw Canadian broadcasters like Lisa la Flamm
under the bus because of her gray hair. Come on, we.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Don't respect age anymore for the wisdom.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
No, we don't know, we don't have.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
That's a shame.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I remember what happened at one radio station where all
the senior staff, all the senior reporters, all the senior
on air talent were called into an office and they
were all let go because they were earning over forty
thousand dollars a year. And you had the students coming
out of the broadcast colleges that would do anything for
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twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Oh yes, they crowd.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The twenty twenty crowd. Now, I don't blame the students,
of course, I really don't. But it's all now a
matter of dollars and cents to the big, big broadcast
industries like creations.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Do you remember the other day you went to the
neighbors and you picked up the newspaper. Yes, and you
brought it in and you said, look at the size
of it.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, eight pages or something. Yeah, it's an emersion.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, because it's much cheaper and easier to produce online.
Now that's got. It's positive and it's pro I.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Love it's positives. As far as saving our papers, saving
our trees, doing the green thing, I'm all about that.
But the internet is great for a lot of reasons.
But you'll never get the X Chronicles incomplete form on
the internet. You've got to hold that thing in your hands.
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That thing is amazing. I gotta do a shout out
to you, Robbie. I love the magazine every month you
put that out with your team. Of course, I know,
but you do ninety percent of the work people. He
will tell you he doesn't, but he does.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Thank you. Thank you, boss.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I know how hard you work.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well, you know what, and it's good.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
One thing that we've always done here on the ex
owner with realmar the X Chronicles is we listen to
our readers, we listen to our viewers. We listened to
our listeners. It's I remember, my gosh. You and I
went on various trips. So we went down to Kingston Penitentiary.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Our road trip.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Our road trip. Yeah, and then we went to the
Old City Jail and Ottawa where they had the last
hanging in Canada. And we spent the night in one
of the cells.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, without the door locked.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah. Let me see we've gone down and seen well.
In twenty twenty twelve, we went to Mexico to the
Mayan area and talked to the Mayans about the Mayan calendar,
the end of the world, and they all laughed at us.
Then do you remember the guy who said, what do
you where are you from? We're from Canada, Okay? On
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December thirty first, what do you do with the old calendar?
You take it down? And what do you do when
the new year starts January first? Will you put the
old calendar the new calendar up? And he said, there you.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Go, And well, I know you like to find out
the truth behind things, so do I You know, if
only we could have stopped way back then and told
the people, relax, relax, relax, the world is not ending.
Don't get out and run up your credit cards.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah yeah, And then we did uh with Mike Silver
and just like Sugar, we did a big fundraiser for
the forest in Brazil. Fun buying trees and replanting them
and let me see, gosh, we.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You're lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Do you remember the Halloween party in Ottawa?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Oh? Yes, Robbie has a following of ladies. Good thing.
I'm not a jealous one. He's met some wonderful, wonderful
women who have contributed a great deal to your show,
and they all find you very charming as he is.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
All right, I'm going to blush over here.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah I know. Well you had me don't go in
at the beginning, so fair play.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, we've had a good time and our listeners have
made this show what it is. Without listeners, you don't
have a show.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Absolutely, you know, and absolutely what would you be doing
it for. You know, your whole idea is to find
out the truth. You want to know the truth, do
I There's been a lot of people that have come
on and they try and scam you, and you get
the shotgun ready and There's been a lot of people
that come on with the truth and they have great
stories to tell. I've listened to many stories and gone,
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well if you brought to tears, and these people believe
what has happened to them to be the truth. And
I don't know any different. So hey, safe landing here,
you know. But to those who come on and they've
got some book about Elvis is still here and reincarnated
into my aunt Betty, Betty and your dog, and you know,
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the pooh pooh, go away, we're on a mission.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
We are to do, that's right. I remember Pastor Harry
Walter coming on the show one night. We were talking
about end times and I mentioned six six six, the
mark of the Beast, and he said, no, Rob, that's
not the mark of the beast.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Really, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I said, what is it, Pastor?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
He said, w w w Oh, well, you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Know, no, that was nearly thirty years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Mm hmm. We don't need an interpretator for that one.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
No, no. And we've had well, let's see, we've had
Edgar Mitchell on the show. We've had the Lee Majors
on the show. We've had oh my gosh, So.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
What's your take on the afterlife. Robbie, what do you
think I think is going to happen? Do you think
we're going to go on? Do you think we'll just
be nullified?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I'm going to tell you what I think as soon
as I get through this commercial break. Okay, all right,
this is the Excellent. My wife Laura is my special guest.
This are here in studio. Don't forget explanation. This is
our one of two hours, and when we come back,
I'll tell you my idea and my feelings about near death,
past life, reincarnation and whatever else pops up. This is
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the X one. I'm Rob McConnell, coming to you on
the Excellent Broadcast Network from our broadcast center in studios
in Saying Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, and on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty streaming Classic twelve twenty Dot.
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Music Maestro.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
I'm gonna make a change for once. In mind, it's
gonna feel real good.
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I'm gonna make a difference.
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I'm gonna make it a run.
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And as I turned up the color a favor of
winter cold, the spring.
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Is blue in my mind.
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I see okays in the street but not enough.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Twoet who am I to be blind?
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But and they not to see them?
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I saw us the street god, a broken bottle, time.
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And one man.
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So they followed each on mom India nocuse they got
wee starting with the.
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Gang Way.
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And if you.
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Chang and welcome back to everyone. This is the excellent i'e
Rob McConnell coming to you from our broadcast center and
studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on the Xcell Broadcast Network.
And you're listening to us on your hometown radio Classic
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twelve twenty dot. Now, if you'd like to see it,
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great hosts that we have. And don't take it from me,
just go to www dot x zbnt net. All right,
you were asking me about my take on the Afterlife
I was, but.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Before I missed my mark there, I got to say
that song by Michael Jackson that leaves a good taste
in your mouth, doesn't it. Everybody can make such a
positive difference.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I remember the first time you and I were talking
and I forget who the guest was, and you were
after the show. You told me, you know, all they
have to do is look in the mirror. The answer
is there.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And every time that I have a guest that we
can use that to I play that song. I credit
you with it.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Wow. You know, Robbie, I truly believe in my heart
of hearts that we all have something to offer, and
we sometimes we to dig deep and find out what
it is. But it's relevant. It matters. You have something
to offer. You're an important part of this universe. You're
an important person in our world. All of us. We
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all matter. It's not white lives matter, black lives matter,
it's human lives matter, animal lives matter. We all are integrated.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah. In fact, we have a full page ad in
every edition of the X Chronicles that says all lives
matter exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Bib you know how to put it out there.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We're talking about what your take.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Was on the afterlife. Honey.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I wanted to know it's changed over the years.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
It does, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
It's changed over the years speaking to the number of
people that I have a great privilege of talking.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
To, and information is the information.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
It's true. Doctor Janetan Matusio love you know.
Speaker 13 (30:58):
She was.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
She's a uh, she's an er surgeon and she has
heard so many stories about.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
The pathologist too. That's right, yeah, totally credible.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And she was telling us about people who come back
that have nearly been lost on the table and talk
about their experience on the other side. And then I've
listened to people like Georgina Cannon.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
I love her too.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
She does past life regression.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Can I do a shout out to Georgie? I love Georgina.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She is a great lady.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
She is out of gold.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You know that's most of my guess, sir, Yes.
Speaker 14 (31:38):
I know.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I know. That's why you draw these women to you,
because you're of like mind and like heart. Well, I
think that's why you drew me to you, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's another show.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
It's cheeky, I tell you, Georgina.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Georgia, when when Georgina regresses people and when let me
see Mark Anthony, he's a medium. We've had Michael Telstar on,
We've had all these great people who are well known,
including Julie Ryan.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
They all shape how you think. Not only.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Not only that, but the people who have the afterlife experiences,
the stories all sound the same.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
There is a common threat.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
There is. There certainly is no matter if you're Jewish,
if you're if you're Hindu, if you're a Muslim, if
you're Christian, if you're Catholic.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
It doesn't The spirit knows any different our inner spirit.
Do you think, like our body dies, no big deal?
You know. My feeling's on that. I think it's just
like an eggshell. We lose the eggshell, but our spirit
goes on. Do you agree? Do you what you take
on that?
Speaker 11 (32:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I agree? In fact, Einstein said that energy can't be destroyed, right,
and if our soul is energy, which I believe it
is now, then it's also changed my mind on reincarnation.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I don't know how I feel about that. Share me
with me.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
When there are children who at a certain age start
talking about a different life, a different place, or they
were a pilot on a certain plane in World War Two.
Their name was such and such, and these facts are verified,
and the child could not know any other way.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Hmm. That's like some of these children speaking different languages
out of the.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Blue, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, we've heard a couple of stories in that. Well.
I remember thinking one that this child was just so smart,
so clever.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Prodigies, Yes, prodigies for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And I guess that's a good way to explain it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And I think these these star seeds or star children
that are being recognized are just children who have had
another experience. Now, there are those who talk about past
life aggression, who say that you not only return to
this place, but you can also return to another dimension.
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You can also return to another planet, another universe.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Now wouldn't that be nice if you could choose where
you wanted to go and how you wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
But apparently now you and I were reading a book
this afternoon, Oh yes, yes, where it said that the
child actually picks his parents and you know, comes down
with a life plan.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Now I can't agree with that. I can't because I've
seen so many little children be put into situations unless
they're part of masochist to be put into certain situations
that to me are just deplorable and the parents shouldn't
have children. So I don't know. Do you think maybe
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the spirit itself knows that it needs to experience this.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I believe so.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
I believe so, And look for me.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Let me use a personal example here, and one that's
close to you as well. Okay, when one of our
little granddaughters didn't make it, Emma, yeah she didn't. She
didn't make it. I felt so bad, and you did,
and it was horrific for us.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Well, it was for the whole family.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
But I remember talking to somebody and they said, well,
God had other plans.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I'm sure we're not alone in those kinds of losses
exactly so.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
And I remember you coming home. You worked in the
palliative unit of a major hospital for a number of years,
and I remember you telling me about what happened at
a time of passing with people that they would see
their rule would come and get them in and tell
us about that.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Well, there were many a time I was blessed with
the opportunity to be there for them, and sometimes they
didn't want family. Some of my people, of my patients
didn't want family around, and they would wait till the
family would leave and they would start. You know, I
was important to them for quite a period of time,
(36:27):
and then it became they were further engaged with the
other side, and I saw, not that I took it personally,
I didn't at all, but I didn't matter anymore because
they were transcending. If you can understand with me, they
were spending more time on the other side than they
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were here, and you knew, I mean, only God knows
for sure, but you knew that their time was coming
close by the way that I was losing them. I
don't mean that physically, I mean that spiritually. They were
spending more time with their loved ones on the other side.
(37:10):
Many times when they were still between and spent time
with me, I would hear my husband and the people
that they loved the most. They always saw them, and
that gave me great comfort in the ability to let go,
knowing that I was returning them somehow. But I played
(37:31):
this small part anyways, that they didn't leave alone. They
weren't there alone. They got to go to the loved ones,
and I was there to see them off and wish
them well and wave goodbye and shed a tear because
I knew I would miss them.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You know, I couldn't do that job. I really couldn't. Well,
I've always admired you and for many reasons, but that's
one of them, because you're so compassionate, you're very empathetic.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, it's not always a good thing, but I was
very fortunate to spend that time with so many people
like that. The hardest one are always the young ones
because they don't always know where they're going and they
don't always recognize the faces that are there. But I've
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never seen a horrible passing and say that, no, never,
And there's a feeling, Robbie, there's a feeling of when
I'm sitting there holding this person's hand, no matter what age,
there's a feeling of and they're gone, and you can
feel it. I can't describe it that people would. Actually
(38:45):
it's very hard to describe, but you know it. If
you've ever sat with someone at the end stage and
you've loved them or even just generally cared, you'll feel
that pass. You'll feel that inner g seep away. And
it's not a bad thing, no.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Not at all, because they don't they're not in pain
any longer.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Oh that's definitely one of the great side effects. But
I believe very much on the other side. So why
and I think you know, it's just like being a child.
You open the door and next thing you're an adolescent
and a teen parent. And these are all stages of
our life and what we don't understand stages of our
(39:31):
death too.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm going to give you my thoughts on that when
we come back from this break.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Oh I keep interrupting.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
My apologies, No, no, no, I do this to everybody, not
just exnation. My wife Laura's with us here in studio tonight,
and it's great having you back. I haven't had you
in studio for oh ten years, twelve years.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
No, I'm not usually good behind a mic. That's your job.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Anyway, we'll be back on the other side of this
short break as we wrap up this hour here in
the XH one with Here's Tuli, Roald McConnell, my wife Laura,
and you're listening to us on the Excellent Broadcast Network
from our broadcast center in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,
on the x oone Broadcast Network. Coming to you on
your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and Screaming Classic twelve
(40:18):
twenty dot ca A, Don't Go Away.
Speaker 12 (40:21):
Sus Steaga, a broken bottle top and one them so.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
They follow it.
Speaker 15 (40:43):
It's amazing how you can speak right to my heart.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
With that shame o word.
Speaker 13 (40:57):
You can night up the door, trys on me. I
can speak.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Why I can when you don't say nothing? The small
you pace lets me know that you need There's.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
The truth in your eyes say and.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
You never believe me.
Speaker 16 (41:30):
The touch of your hand says you catch me wherever off.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
You say best.
Speaker 15 (41:45):
And you say nothing not all.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Welcome back to you one. Well, this is a great hour.
Time goes by so fast each and every night that
I do this show. First of all, Laura, thank you
a million for joining us tonight. It's it's great having
you and letting you meet the growing family of the
exonation that you and I started thirty five years ago.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
I'm not that old.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Well you started when you were six. I think I'm
not sure.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Ah, come on, you forgot to mention who else is
joining us in the studio and has been incredibly good.
Connor no kidding, Yes, he's sitting on my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
All right.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
We have a new addition exhonation Connor, my conyer. We
got him as a baby from these wonderful well first.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Of all, First of all, tell our listeners what a conyer?
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Is a conyor is a parrot par bird? Yeah, we've
had many, I've had many, but this is the newest
one we've had in a long time. And we got
him as a baby. We finished weaning him at home
and he is just the most lovable thing. If you'd
need a pet, you can't walk it. Get a bird.
(43:00):
Teach him not to bit get him early stage.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
It's so funny because first thing in the morning when
I when I wake up and I go to the
home office, I pick a corner up because he's yelling
at me. It's six o'clock. The sun's coming up. Hey,
wake up, old man.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
I will not be a card.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
No.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Okay, Now, before I cut you off again and lead
into nonsense, please describe to me your thoughts and ideas
on past life. I want to know personally, I really
care to know.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
This is how I explain death to my children, our children,
our children. Yeah, okay, okay. Is just imagine a caterpillar. Okay,
a caterpillar lives a little life and then when it's
time to go, what does he do? He builds a cocoon,
and in that concoon, something very fascinating happens. The metamorphosis happens.
(43:55):
What was once a little faces caterpillar is now turned
into a beautiful butterfly. Life goes on. It's a transition.
So also imagine every the biggest library that you've ever
been in, and each book is a life. I believe
(44:17):
that you go from one book to the next, to
the next, to the next to the next. So this
is another reason why I now do not believe that
we just are turned into ashes or worm food when
we die. I really believe that there's much more. And
(44:38):
I think that our children and their children and their
children will get closer to understanding. And you know, I'm
part Irish, and I think the Irish have the best
way of dealing with death. Oh, the Irish wake. They
celebrate the life of the person. And do you know
(45:01):
what the difference between an Irish Irish wedding and what?
Speaker 5 (45:07):
No, I never mind, Okay, one less drunk.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah now that's how I take it. No, And I
think that the wonders of life are still to be found,
that we've just scratched the surface. For example, we know
more about the stars and the universe than we do
about the oceans. Yes, yes, And I think that the
time will come when we'll say, oh crap, we did that.
(45:33):
Look at the coral reefs that are dying.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
Yeah, what do you mean? The time will come? I
think we're there.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
But I believe in humanity. I believe that if we
go back to where we were talking about earlier in
the show.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Where we all we all have a job to do
and we all got to get at it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Let me, let me use this analogy. I love analogies,
not allergies. It is I believe that each one of
us has a part of a jigsaw puff that we're
born with, and that all we need to do is
all of us get together around this table, take the
pieces of jigsaw puzzle that we have in our pocket,
(46:09):
put it with the others that are there, and work
on it together and link.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (46:14):
I like that, right, Yeah, And I really think that
I really think that we will, that we will conquer
these issues that we're in and lord knows there's enough
of them.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
But you know, we have to take better care of
Mother Earth.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Yeah, Well, look at David Attenborough, all the messages he
left for us, if we only listen, there are so many.
I believe you're Robbie, I believe what you say. There's
so many willing to do that. But there's so few
or the other few are just destroying the planet. Just
we're losing species and an alarming rates. Extinction rates are
(46:49):
just sad. There's a simple word for a huge problem.
It's just giantly sad. I wonder if there ever was unicorn.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Actually, we had the wizard Oz who is going to
be having his own show on our network. He is
a grand wizard, a real grand wizard.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
I missed that one, the real grand wizard. He had
unicorns and he said there were.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Real histories mysteries by Oberon Zell. I happen to know
the person who wrote the foreword myself. Oh look it
was me. He and his wife raised unicorns.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Wow, Now were they genetically modified unicorns with a deer
or anything that could have been? Which is the one
with the with the spiral horn? The not there is one,
(47:59):
but it has one iral horn that comes out of
the center.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
And it's oh, I don't I don't know that one.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Yes, Beau's heart farther up on the head. It's of
the Deer family. I can't think of the name of it.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Of course, But anyway, getting back to Oberon, he is
the grand Wizard of the Grace, the Grace School of Wizardry,
and it isn't accredited at school. They do online courses
in wizardry. But he and his wife like magic magic yeah,
and Uhhaganism, and they bring in Celtic lore the entire thing.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
And his unicorn curiously has a unicorn.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Seriously because Barnum and Bailey or the Ringling brothers have
leased it from him.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
I want to go to that place and see that.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I've got pictures of it. In fact, the pictures are
even in his book that I'm holding.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
Okay, so hang on, now you've done a lot of debunking.
You're telling me you've gone through that book and you
valid dated.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
This to be real, definitely legitimate.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
I got to read that book, and I definitely want
to catch that show. Yeah, let me miss that one.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Oh I won't. I won't know. He's a he is
who he says he is.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
So audience, Unicorns war once or maybe still are real.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yes, they are now. The word unicorn means one horn.
Speaker 7 (49:22):
Right, okay, yeah, right, unicorn, one corn.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
It reminds me of that commercial on TV. I think
it's for what the heck.
Speaker 7 (49:32):
It's a unicorn, it's one corn.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Hold on here, bush beans.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Bush beans, unicorns.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Because the commercials really great. You know, You've got these
master chef is Chef's on TV and they're making this
wonderful pot of beans and what they do is they
take one little piece of pork and they put one
bean on top, and then they drizzle the.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Oh yes, yes, you're making me hungry.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, anyway, I love that commercial.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Never reminds you of unicorns.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Done, yeah, because the dog says, we'll need a couple
of million of those.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
Honey, you're so sweet. I love you.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Thank you. No, I know for a fact, because I've
talked to so many great people over the years, I've
talked to a few wackos as well. So yeah, but
it is so.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
This is why he doesn't let me on with him
very often, because I get him distracted and all side.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Too too.
Speaker 5 (50:40):
I just wink at him and you can't remember what
he was going to say.
Speaker 7 (50:43):
I'm sorry nothing, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I think one of the greatest things that the exone
has done over the years was when we were able
to help the nap Estate Hospital.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
The Insanity Hospital, mental Health.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Mental health hospital get closed down and a number of
the patients released, and in fact, the Department of Justice
in the United States contacted our Department of Justice here
in Canada and asked us for copies of the tapes
and transact transn transcriptions, And I said, sure, Wayne Moore
(51:17):
in Jr.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
You know, you never think that somebody's going to be
in an asylum, not at this day and age when
they shouldn't be. We have so many mentally ill running around,
and the hospitals are a great idea, But to impound
someone of a good mental capacity, how was that effort
(51:39):
led to be.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Anyway? That to me was to this point the greatest
service that the X and Radio Show has ever performed
was by being part of getting those people released and
the hospital shut down and charges.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Were mental cruelty to the match.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
It was awful.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
Well, I don't know what You've done. Quite a few
things that have raised awareness, Robbie, just like sugar. The
poison of that sugar really is. I can think of
quite a few. Yeah, you've done quite a bit there.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Anyway, my dear, it's time when we must get ready
to say so long. So where's Connor now?
Speaker 5 (52:21):
On my shoulder. He's got this beautiful long red tail.
He's called a pineapple Conyer and he's just a sweet bird,
isn't he?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
One eight hundred called conyor Laura? Thank you so much
for joining us, and thank you for all the support
that you've given us over the years.
Speaker 5 (52:42):
You are too humble.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
You're a legend.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
Yeah, you're too humble.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Ex O Nation. I'll be back on the other side
of this break as we start our number two here
in the X Zone with yours really Rob McConnell from
our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catherine's on Terry, Canada,
and you're listening to us on your hometown radio, Classic
twelve twenty and streaming at Classic twelfth twenty dot C.
Speaker 9 (53:07):
You need me.
Speaker 15 (53:09):
There's a truth in your right.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
Say and you never believe me.
Speaker 16 (53:14):
The touch of your hand says you catch me wherever Apa.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
You say best.
Speaker 15 (53:29):
When you say nothing, not all due, all inlong, I
can hear peopon't talk and down loud.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Bone when you call me
Speaker 9 (53:57):
You drown out the drown