September 12, 2025 • 57 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and streaming around
the world and into the great Beyond on Classic twelve
twenty CA. My guest this hour exphonation is a young
lady that I've had the pleasure of talking to a
number of times. Her name is Lauren corn Gold and
she is in Miami, Florida, and Karen, welcome back, Lauren,
(02:15):
I'm sorry, welcome back to the X Zone.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
Well, thank you once again for having me. It's my pleasure, Laurden.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Well, I was born in Miami, and to the point,
I am a psychic medium. I started seeing spirits when
I was about jevin six as far maybe before, I
don't remember, and I've been seeing them and marring them
every since.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Okay, let's go back to the very first time that
you can remember using your psychic abilities. When did you
When did that happen?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Well, the first time I remember, I was very sick.
I used to get what they used to call the crew,
and my mother used to put me into bed with
these wet sheets over me, and I was very sick.
I was coughing. I was probably about six or seven,
and all of a sudden I saw these shadows outside
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of the seat walking around me. And then all of
a sudden, this woman appeared in front of my feet,
and she had all this wonderful light coming from her.
It did look like radiating light. It sort of looked
like the photosphere of the sun, with these big pixels
of light go up and down. And she looked at
(03:39):
me and I could tell that she was not like me, solid,
but she was smiling, and she said to me, honey,
don't worry, You're going to be just fine. And then
she was gone, and so were the others that I
never knew where the others were behind the seat, but
those shadow people or whatever you want to call them,
(04:01):
they were also gone. And I just, you know, it
felt strange but yet so natural, like I don't know,
like super supposed to be there.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
What type of psychic abilities do you possess, Laura, And
how do you manifest them? How do you get them
to kick in?
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Well? I see and hear of spirits. I don't really
do anything to manifest them. I kind of just walk
into a room and I either see something or I
hear something. Although I do medicate, and when after a
medication period of about twenty minutes, I feel more excute,
(04:44):
I feel more aware, and sometimes the voices are more
pronounced and I can see them that's when I grab
my camera and take your pick or take an audio
so that people don't think I'm schizophrenic.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
So what type of different methods or tools do you
use when doing your psychic greetings? Do you use tarot cards, crystals?
Do you use astrology? How do you do it?
Speaker 7 (05:14):
No? I do have tarot cards and get A friend
of mine suggested that I learned the tarrot and I
was I'm terrible at it. I had to write on
the cards what you know what? Like the death card,
for instance, means chain, you know the you know the sun?
(05:36):
What does this mean? So you know when you have
to do that. That's not really your forte and just
wasn't working out. So I gave that up and I
wasn't really getting anything from it. So I don't really
use crystals or or anything. The most I do is
I do like some candles for medication, and I do
(05:59):
have I do something called sprying. I take pictures through
a clear glass for refraction or on mirror for reflection,
and I do see spirit picks. I take your picks
and I put it, you know, on my web page
and let other people see them. So when I explain
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to them that it works. They can actually see the
empirical evidence that it does work.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Laurten, what's your personal philosophy or your belief system regarding
psychic readings and the spiritual realm in general?
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well, the spirit world is real when you die. I
don't know how it happens. But when you die, you
do transcend to another level. How it happens, I don't know.
I have asked the spirits, how does it happen? How
does it You've just come out of your body? How
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does it work? And I was told it's not for
me to know. Okay, I accept that I don't really
get any psychic readings done to me because I have
in the past, and they're usually very incorrect. You know,
I always get I see that you either you're looking
(07:17):
for psychic development, and I really, you know, I see
that you want answers because you don't know how to
find them. I'm like, really, so, so I guess you know,
I guess you're getting wires crossed with somebody else. You know.
I don't tell them I'm a psychic, so you know,
you know, because you know, you know, the usual scamming
(07:38):
kind of thing. So I just don't get any readings
and I don't give any readings or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So if you don't give readings, how do you use
your psychic gift.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, people do call me up and they say, I think,
you know, there's a spirit in my house, and they
usually want to tell who they think it is, and
I usually tell them not to because I like to
walk into a building or a dwelling and do a
cold reading. I don't want any information. I want to
talk to the spirit myself and find out what they say,
(08:15):
who they are. And a lot of times people I
hope it's my grandmother. I hope it's my dogs, you know,
that sort of thing, and that may influence me by,
you know, by leading the spirit on, Oh your aunt Minni. Right?
Maybe not so I just like to walk in and
you should just have my cell phone. I do have cameras,
(08:38):
but I just usually walk in with my cell phone
and I turn it on record if I feel something,
and obviously if I see something, I just start taking
pics and ask them to tell me who they are
and why they're here, or they attached to the place,
so they attached to the people. I've gotten all kinds
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of people, people from the guides and cancers, suicide, motorcycle assance,
you name it.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
So you're not like the typical psychic who has a
telephone number that they give out or they do readings
on skype, zoom or any other modalities. You actually go
to the place and do your psychic psychic job there.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yes, And I'm not in it for the money because
I don't get paid. I've never ever ever taken a
dime for what I do. Never. I feel like I
am put here to help people, and I don't have
a problem with getting paid hed. I mean, if you're
a copper firefighter, you're helping people, you should be paid.
(09:54):
But for me, it doesn't feel right. It feels more business, see,
you know, and I think that would we kind of
play with my abilities. And I don't feel that the
spirit will particularly wants me to get paid. I mean,
I've done well enough without without having to be paid,
(10:15):
and it's just kind of an interference. Though. No, I
don't do you know, I don't do readings or I
don't you know, tell people, you know, I see your area,
you know, give me twenty bucks. So no, I don't.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
All right, So you go into a house and you
use your psychic abilities to establish whether or not there
is in fact a spirit or something that is causing
paranormal activity in the home. You discover that you're one
hundred percent sure that's what it is, what do you
do next.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Well, it depends on what their people want. I see,
if a lot of times they say, oh, it's my
it's my grandma. I'll take a pick of the spirit
and I'll show it to the people and they say, oh,
that's my grandma or that's my uncle, and they see
that they're overjoyed that if they're there, and then I
just don't do anything. I just give them the information
(11:09):
and if they want to post it, they can post it.
If they want me to post it, uh to show
other people I do that. I'd never ask because I
don't want them to feel pressured. Most of the time
they don't want me to post it as private, and
I just leave. Now. If it's if it's somebody or
an entity that is a malevolent and I've I've been
(11:31):
told of you know, culture guisee activity, or you know
somebody say get out or something, then what I do
is I go over there and I like some white
stage and I talk to the spirit and I try
to scare the hell out of it so that it
leads to the dwelling. And I'm pretty good at that.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
How do you how do you scare a spirit when
a spirit is dead and they really have nothing to fear.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Well, what I have found is that they have a
certain most of them are oldest spirits, or they have
a certain image of females, so that they expect me
to be frightened or that, you know. And what I
do is I have the nobody talks boy talk better
than me. I have a silty mouth, and I use
(12:24):
the language that would make your hair curl. And that
usually scares the crap out of them because they're not
expecting that. And they and I tell them, I'll smudg
you out. And for some reason, and I don't know why,
the idea of being mugs through a lot of spirits
(12:44):
is really quite frightening. And they leave. I've never had
anyone call me and say they're back. I have They
never gotten that?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Wow. So having a poddy mouth and being a lady
at the same time comes in handy sometimes.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Yes, I hope my grandmother isn't listening.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, if she is, you'll find out later.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Yes, I guess I will.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Lauren, please stand by you and I have to take
our first break explanation. Lauren Cornngold is my special guest
and her website is www dot get my Spirit stream
now dot com. Get my Spirit stream now dot com.
And Lauren is also with the Paranormal Research Investigatorship Society
(13:35):
of Miami. And we'll both be back on the other
side of this break as the excellent continues with here'
streli Rob McConnell from our broadcast center and studios in
Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, right here on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty and streaming around the world and into
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Don't go away.
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We'll be back on the other side of this very
very short break.
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So.
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Come and tell you on the first road.
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Lord, I've got a flad.
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I'm gonna get it.
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There you go.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
You never have one of those days where you want
to say something, the brain goes says, all right, you
turn right, but you end up turning left.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
But that's what just happened with me.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Our guest this hour is Lowering Corn Gold and she
is with the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of Miami and
her website is get my Spirit stream Now dot com.
Is Miami a very haunted place?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yeah, it is. It's not known for it here in
the States, places like South Carolina and Massachusi. You know,
New England, the Civil Wars and the Revolutionary work. But
Miami actually is a pretty haunted place. We have a
lot of old time mansions and hotels that like the
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built North, that have spirits in them. I think it's
haunted everywhere on this planet. You know, wherever there's a
piece of land, I think there's some spirits around but yes,
Miami is is quite haunted.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Tell us about the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of Miami.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Well, what we do is like like you know, ghost hunting,
typical ghost hunting group I formed the group. Ours is
a little bit different. I wanted to have. I wanted
there to be a certain rules. For instance, never post
anything of a celebrity or somebody a friend without telling
(17:19):
the family first. You know, don't tell we're not in
just to make a name for ourselves. And some of
my team members, you know, they didn't like that, you know,
they want to well in school, let's post it. But
also we always have two people with us, two people
together in a room, so that there could never be
any you know, accusation of fraud and manipulation. We go
(17:44):
into houses. Sometimes I walk right into the house and
I see something. Uh sometimes I don't whether I do
or I don't. We treat it as if we see nothing.
We put up in for red cameras, both second cameras
with quarters grids, all that kind of stuff, even if
(18:05):
I see something right there, because there's always something that
I miss and we want to record it for the
benefit of the people that are having us come over
and what we do is unlike a lot of paranormal
research group, we don't generally spend the entire night there.
(18:25):
There seems to be some belief that spirits come out
more at night. They do not. It's just that it
gives us an opportunity to use a lot of cool
technology like infra red and can't use during the day.
So if you go there at nine o'clock in the
morning and there's a spirit there, it's going to be
there at nine o'clock in the morning or nine o'clock
(18:46):
at night. So we usually wrap it up within three
or four hours of getting there. We don't spend There's
nothing magical about nighttime.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I was talking to a paranormal investigator and I asked them, well,
why do you guys do this at night? And he said, well,
it's very simple because we worked during the day.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Oh yes, yeah, a lot of us have you know,
other jobs or real businesses. Yes, but some people think, oh,
good nighttime, you know, life out here, they're all going
to come out now. Well, if they didn't come out
when you were there for this, you know, the three
hours when the sun was above their rise, and they're
probably not going to come out. Now.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
If they're there, they're there. And if they're not, well
they're not. Where has where in your experience has been
the most haunted location that you and your team have
done an investigation?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
At my house?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Your house, you're out?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Yes, my house? Yes? How we loaded the spirits?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
And where did all these spirits come from?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Well? I have a friend who is a psychic and
we've been friends for about thirty years. And she said,
you know, you have a portal in your house and
I said, no, I don't, I would feel it. She says, well,
I don't know what you're feeling, but you have a
portal in your house. So I asked the spirits, you know,
(20:10):
there's so many of you here. I know it's not
a portal, so what is it? And they said it's
a portal. I said, oh it is. I said, okay,
that's what I was told. I'm amazed that I didn't,
you know, put that pick up on that. They said, well,
you know, maybe you have a little prejudice against it,
but there is a portal here. And somebody referred to
(20:31):
it like like grand centistation. Some of them are just
passing through like stragglers and they have nothing to do
with me, and they just are passing on by and
I just happened to see them or take their pick
or hear their voices, and they're not interested in me
at all. They're just walking on by. Other times it's
(20:54):
angels or guy or my father. So it depends. But
there are a lot of spirits here, and there are
a lot of portals, and wherever there's a portal, there's
going to be a bunch of spirits, good and bad,
passing through it.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
So where does this portal portal come from? What is
the destination on the other side.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
I don't know. All I know is I've been fortunate
enough to take pictures of when the portal is opened
and there's light coming out. So I guess when they
say going into the light, I guess that's really true,
because when there's a birth of light, there seems to
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be a birth of energy that I feel. And then
you could see these spirits, you know, just streaming out
and it's almost like a bus door opening and everybody's
coming out and then they're gone. But I don't know what.
I don't know what's on the other side. I just
know that the light of the spirits and they come
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and go.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Now, the spirits that come and go, are they always
positive spirits or do you get negative spirits demonic spirits
as well?
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Hmm, how do you how do you deal with the
negative spirits or the demonic spirits?
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Party?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Now contes? Here we go.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
You must have been a sailor in a previous life, right.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Except I have no tattoos, so I don't know, but
you're probably right something like that, because that usually takes
care of it. But you know, what I have found
is that a lot of the spirits that I have,
I haven't had too many negative encounters, but those that
I have had, they're not really evil. They're mostly angry,
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and they're angry because some of them are murder victims.
Some of them never got justice. You know, I had
one guy tell me my pillar is still walking work.
I'm really sorry about that, but it isn't going to
be any good hanging on to resentment. So a lot
of times what we proceded being evil is more like
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it's they're angry.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I can understand that. So do you try and get
them to go to the light.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Well, I used to say, go into the light. There's
peace and love and the light and I once had
a guy say to me, I know I lived here,
I'm just out out and about, and he was kind
of had a negative attitude. He says, I'm not stuck,
if that's what you mean, So why do you keep
trying to send me to a place that I've been
through a hundred times. We're out because we want to
(23:50):
be out, not because they're stuck. So I stopped saying
go into the light, find peace and love and the
light that they don't always want to be in the light.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
What inspired you, Lauren to be to pursue a career
as a as a professional paranormal investigator.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Well, I guess I was always because of my you know,
psychic abilities that this you would say, I was always
interested in that, And when I was a little girl,
my father said to me, look, I don't know too
much about it, but I know this. You'd be well
advised not to tell too many people. And I did
(24:31):
not understand that, And now later on I did understand it,
because you didn't want people to think you were a nut,
but as I knew that they were real, and I
wanted other people to question, you know, what is their
life beyond this?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
What do they look like is it intelligent? Ghost? Was
astic energy? So I wanted to answer some of those
questions for myself because I didn't know, and I wanted
to sell other people that it was real and to
mostly to give comfort because I've had people say to me,
thank you so much. I'm at peace now. Because I
(25:08):
had a lady from the Philippines who's her big Her
big brother was murdered and she wanted to know if
he was in the light, and I said, don't tell
me anything about him. I said, all I can tell
you is that he's standing in front of me and
he's saying to me, cool you, cool you. And she
(25:31):
started to cry and I said, well what does that mean?
She goes, he's saying Coolia, Coolia. That means big brother.
And the Philippine lank was and I said, oh my god. Okay, Well,
so it gave her a sense of peace that can
know that he was around and that he and that
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her mother had just passed away and that she was
with him.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Would you say that the experiences that you share with
the people who you help, just like this Filipino lady,
are in some form or fashion very spiritual, And I
don't you know. I mean, you're doing something good your ero.
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Let's say somebody who works and walks on the right
side of the light.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
It makes me feel good because most people feel a
sense of relief. But I understand that this isn't for everyone.
I actually, you know, I had a dog sitting service
and one of my clients said to me, look, I
know you're a psychist. I know you see and hear things.
(26:48):
And she said, if you ever see anything in my house,
don't tell me. I don't want to know that stuff
breaks me out. And I said, okay, and there were
things in her house, but I kept my mouth cut.
It's not for everyone. Not everybody wants to know. Some
people get, you know, the hebdbs about it, So I
get it.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
We've got about thirty seconds before I have to go
for my next break, Lauren. Do people have anything to
physically fear from the spirits?
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Not really? Uh. People talked about being touched or pushed.
I mean, I've never seen that outside of the movie.
But I mean I've been I've had a light touch
right on my body, but I've never had anybody, you know,
throw me across the room. I mean I'm not gonna
I won't say it doesn't happen because I have no
empirical evidence to preclude it from happening. But I don't
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I would say I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
That's good enough for me.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
If you say it, it's good enough for me. Well,
Harden stand by you and I have to take our
second break and explanation. Lauren corn Gold is our special guest,
and we're going to bet on the other side of
like I said, of this very short break as we
continue here in the X Zone with here's truly Rob
McConnell from our broadcast studios and corporate offices in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
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We'll be back. Don't go away, Criss.
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Christmas.
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Rob McConnell and all listeners and viewers of the worldwide
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The window imagine every.
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Welcome back to the Exone. I'm rob Occonnell. We're coming
to you on a Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. Lauren corn Goold is my special
guest at this hour, and Lauren is in Miami, Florida. Lauren,
has there ever been a paranormal investigation that you've walked
in and felt so much negativity that you just want
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to turn around and walk away.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
No, not from spirits, but from the people that are
living there. Really, Yes, I did go against some advice
from your friend of mine to a woman who as
soon as I walked into her house, she wanted to
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preach to me whatever her particular religion was and the
belief system that whatever I find is going to be
from the devil. I said, well, then why am I here?
I mean, I'm here as an investigator, that's the operative word.
You're I'm investigating. If you only have a belief system
in place that you won't accept evidence, then I really
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couldn't be here. So now I do a much better
job about vetting people because some people are very very negative,
or they have three conceived ideas. I know it's my
dead ex husband, or how do you know that? I
just know it well, you know you be a little
open minded. No, okay, good bye, But no, I've never
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had a spiritual I've come walking to a place where
there was a lot of heavy energy. But that's the job,
you know.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
You go in and you find out how do you
and your team protect yourselves from all this negative energy
that you're you're dealing with during a paranormal investigation, and
how do you make sure you don't bring it home
with you?
Speaker 7 (32:07):
I have brought it home. I have. Uh, I've actually
was I've brought negative spirit home and uh, you know,
pot it out. I've also done. I am what called
is a remote medium. In other words, sometimes I'll just
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stay at home and a person will call me and
I can you know, sense what's going on over there
at home? And one there there was one time there
was a spirit. His name was Cardell. He was at
her house and then he ended up at my house
trying to terrorize me, and you know I got rid
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of him with my mouth and my I actually recorded discussion.
I do have the recording, and one of a couple
of my angels, my guides, came and said, don't worry,
worry about him, we'll take care of him. And then
about a half hour later he came back and I said,
you again, what are you doing here? He said, your
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your guide told me I had to come back and
apologize or they were going to stick me in hell.
I said, oh, well you probably belong there, you know,
so I guess there is some sort of punishment. You know.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
On the other side, how do you deal between the
potential paranormal activity and natural explanations?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Well, we What I tried to do is if I mean,
there's always fluctuations and energy, you can hear You could
hear something. It could be the wind and it sounds
like a voice, and it could be either either way.
So I try to run it through certain programs like
waves had and try to remove some of the things.
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Sometimes there's just iffy and if it's if he you know,
then you be you know, you be honest with the people. Listen.
You know, we're not really sure we caught a voice.
It maybe or it may not. Some of them are intelligent.
Like when my father comes, I record him and he's
always talking to me about investments, so that's not the
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wind or you know, natural phenomenon. You know, he's talking
about real estate.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
So have you ever encountered skeptics who have actually challenged
your findings? And if so, how do you deal with them?
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Well? I haven't had people really challenge my finding, but
I have had people say, I see what you're showing me,
but my explanation is different. And then they usually start
quoting some religious book that it's it is spiritual in nature,
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but I'm being led astray by forces of the darkness,
you know, that kind of just But I've never really
had anybody look at it and say it's not there.
I just had people say, you don't understand what you're doing.
You know, you think it's you know, they're really demons
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in disguise, or you know, I mean I get that
once in a while, mostly on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
How about EVPs?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
How do you explain them? You know, for the listeners
out there who have no idea what an EVP is.
A EVP is an electronic voice phenomenon where paranormal investigator
will use a digital or analog recording device. Ask a question, pause,
wait a few moments and then ask another question. Now,
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the answers or the replies from the spirits can only
be heard when the recording is played back. Now, how
do we explain that we can't hear the answer when
it's given, but later on there it is on the
recording device.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
You know, I don't know that, but you know, sometimes
I do hear it. And then I asked the teammate
or myself, I checked back the seat if what I
heard was at that time what was recorded. But very
you're right, very often we don't hear it, you know.
First you know, I've asked sir, it's I said, you know,
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how do you make it? How do you speak it? All?
You have the local cords? How do you even show yourself?
You don't have a body. And what I was told
is that they have. They manipulate energy and they manipulate
light to form either a sound way or a visual
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manifestation of themselves. I said, well, then why can't why
can't nom the psychics? Why can't I hear you all
the time? And they said, well, because the energy is
in the place that you are. There's all there's often
environmental phenomenon that prevents us from you know, communicating with you,
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and we are we are really reflecting ourselves at a
very very low frequency. So that's been my experience. So
it may be be low you know, one hundred hearts
or you know, whatever it is that we can't hear it,
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But every once in a while I'll hear a really good,
like just almost a total conversation. So I have to
presume that there are environmental factors or that you know,
enhance it or you know, remove it.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I would imagine that cell phones and Wi Fi transmissions
really screw up the attempt of investigators when it came
to establishing evidence that the paranormal is real.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Well, my cell phones have always been my friend, because
that's really all that I use. I just turn it
on and I just sit there. And somebody said to me,
and it may be true. And I never asked the
spirit I forget to ask. They said, well, did it
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never occur to you that maybe they're attracted to you?
So that's why you have good luck hearing them, And
because I do seem to get a lot of stuff
that other paranormal investigators don't get in abundance. So I said, well,
that's that's a good I never thought of that, But
that's a good Maybe I'm a spirit magnet or something,
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and there's so many of them that somebody's down to
be heard. You know, if you have a hundred people
in a room, you're going to hear at least two people.
So I said, yeah, you know, I got to ask
about that. That's a good question. Maybe there are certain
people that you're attracted to, or certain kinds of spirits.
Maybe they go, you know, like you mind meld you,
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whatever your wavelength is, they natch you there. Not all
of them can do that.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Well, I know why your cell phone likes you because
your cell phone has experienced firsthand how your potty mouth affects,
you know, spirits and other you know, other members of
the other side, and it doesn't want to it doesn't
want to be on your bad side.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
So that's why it's nice to you.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
But yeah, they probably have gotten my name around.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Something that I've been told by many paranormal investigators is
that a lot of these spirits don't know they're dead.
And you and I were talking about how angry or
frustrated they are, and that this is one of the
major causes they don't know why people can see them
they don't know why people can't hear them. They don't
know why these why they're being neglected. It's because they
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don't know they're dead.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
What's your opinion on that.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
I've never had that experience. I came in No, not
that I remember. I believed that because you know, you'd
see people, you'd hear other paranormal investigators of psychics say
they see people walking around in period clothing, so they
must think that they're back in the eighteenth century or
you know, whatever it is. But I have asked them,
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I've seen people that look like, you know, they're wearing
you know, American revolutionary clothing or something, And I say,
you know, you do realize the American Revolution is over,
and you know we're death buddies that England. Now you
do know that? And well, of course I know that
you know at that time to say, yes, it's twenty eighteen.
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Oh you're aware of the passage of time. Why do
you look this way? And they said, because this is
who I am and this is the most exciting time
of my life. I've been told that I have never
melt met anyone who says, well I am waiting, you know,
you know, I mean they could see the TV, they
can see the electricity, they can they know something is
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going on. I've never I've never talked to anybody who said,
what do you mean, you know Abraham Lincoln was just assassinated,
you know, eighteen sixty five or whatever. I mean, I've
never I've never had that experience.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
How do you figure that a ghost or a spirit
that is energy can wear period clothing when clothing doesn't
have any energy.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Well, they're not wearing the clothing wearing I mean they're like, Okay,
if you're looking at a spirit and this man or
woman manifests their faith and you can see the face,
they can manisfess what the clothing look like at the time.
It's just it's just not part of their skin. They're
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able to form, like they can form their face or
their arms, they can form the clothes. I don't know
how they know. I tend to think it's instinctual because
I don't think they have a big clothing door on
the other side. He can, you know, dressing you up.
So I think it's something that you innately do. Because
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when my mother passed away.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
All right, we're going to have to hold you off
here because we do have to take our final break,
so please stand by. Lauren Cornold is our special guest exonation,
and we're talking about spirits, psychics, paranormal investigations and much more.
And Melaurna and I will be back on the other
side of this break as we continue hearing the X
Zone from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
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right here on Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the
world on Classic twelve twenty.
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Speaker 6 (44:01):
And welcome back everyone.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
This is the excellent.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
I'm Rob McConnell and you're listening to us on Classic
twelve twenty or online at www dot Classic twelve twenty
dot CA. Lorden Cornwold is our special guest and Louren.
If somebody listening to us tonight is inspired and motivated
by by our conversation and they too want to become
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a paranormal investigator, what should they do? How would they
go about it?
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Well, the first thing that they should do is read.
Keep an open mind. Don't think you know everything. I
still know very little in comparison to what I hope
to learn a lot of times that you know, I
know my experience when I really started investigating, I got.
I had a lot of surprises, a lot of old notions.
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I had to put aside the prejudices that I did
realize I had. So I would tell that person to
watch other or normal investigators, get a mentor even if
it's online, read the books all that. Get as much
information as you can so that you do it right
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and go slowly. There's no spirits aren't going anywhere. You
don't have to invest in fat millions of dollars or
one hundreds of dollars even to capture spirit energies, So
you know, don't run out and buy you know, seven
hundred dollars cameras. You don't need that. You need a
cell phone, you need a flashlight, you need a digital
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audio recorder or even even one with a little tape
in it, and patience, and that's all you need.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
What are some of the misconceptions about paranormal investigation that
that you'd like to dispel.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
Tonight, Well, first of all, is the one that we
spoke of earlier, that that spirits have a tendency to
come out at night. Right, that that's not true. A
lot of my best investigation has been during the day. Also,
that you don't that you have to have certain kinds
of equipment. You don't have to have certain kinds of equipment.
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You don't have to have powerful recorders and things like that,
because you know, if the cell phone can pick it up,
that that's really all that you need. And also that
the biggest thing that investigators, I think make a mistake
is that there's two impatience. They My way is to
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turn on a recorder, let the recorder run for twenty
seconds at least before you even open your mouth, and
then ask one question and shut up and give them
thirty seconds to answer, and then ask another. Investigators spend
a lot of time talking instead of listening. Listen, listen, listen,
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and you will be successful in this.
Speaker 6 (47:02):
What are the ethical guidelines or principles that you follow
in your paranormal investigations that you'd like to share with
the listeners.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
Well, first of all, you have to you have to
analyze yourself why are you in this? Are you in
it because you want to keep knowledge and learn and
contact the other side, or you want to make a
name for yourself, or you want to feel cool. So
the ghosts, your spirit, whatever you want to call it,
always comes first. Secondly, the people that you're that own
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the home or the buildings always come second. In other words,
you always have to consider their feelings. Do not ever
put anything on the internet. Do not talk about it.
It's almost like you're like a confessor. Keep it private
unless the person that you're working with, or the homeowner
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or whatever it tells you to release it. Stop don't.
You're not in it for you. You're just a conduit
between the other side, the spirit world, and those of
us that are still living. That's all you are. And
remember that that you are the least important person in
the whole procedures.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Have you ever collaborated with any other paranormal investigation groups
and how does that work?
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Not with groups, but I did have a friend who
did it herself, and she's from Atlanta, and we used
to collaborate together a little bit, and then the pandemic
hit and everything kind of you know, stop, and you know,
we just kind of drifted apart. And I have I
have worked with other paranormal investigators. What I have not
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done and will not do, is work with any psychic,
because when I go in as a paranormal investigator, I
don't go in as a psychic. I go in as
an investigator. Like I said earlier, if I walk into
a house and I see a spirit, I will of
course take out my equipments, but I still put up
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all the stuff as if I don't see them because
I am an investigator. They didn't call for a psychic.
They called for an investigator, so they're kind of I
kind of wear two hats. I don't really I mean,
I have an advantage because I'm a psychic, but I
don't count on that. I count on the evidence that
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it is caught on the cameras and the recording.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
What about these TV shows that are up there, the
different ghost shows. It seems that a lot of things
happen in a very short period of time on their shows,
and yet is there's never anything that is that is evidence.
What's your take on the shows?
Speaker 7 (49:52):
Well, yeah, you know, it is funny because you know,
you spend more time not getting anything than getting it,
you know what I mean. It's sort of like if
somebody's there and they want to talk to you, you're
probably gonna hear from them the first fifteen minutes. If
they're not going to talk to you in fifteen minutes
or a half hour, they're probably you have nothing to
say or there's nothing there. Yes, I've always wanted you know,
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there probably is a lot of times with these shows
that they don't get anything. You just don't. You know,
they don't air that because you know it's foreign, right,
so they air that. They they air the stuff where
things are a little bit active, you know, But even
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then you got to take it with a grain of
salt because you don't know if they're manipulating it. I
would say they're not, because I think a lot of
them have the same rules that you never leave people alone.
There's always two investigators in a room at the same time,
and there are some that are more reliable than others.
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I mean, now on x formerly Twitter, there's nothing, there's
nothing but ghost hunters. You know, if somebody picks up
a camera and says, oh, hey, I'm going to go
to seven to eleven and do it ghost hunting, you
can't do that. I mean, you can do it, but
I mean you've got to take it with a brain
of salt, and you really have to do research and
not just the enthusiastics, but but really be professional.
Speaker 6 (51:24):
A lot of these shows and individual groups and investigators
love going to prisons, bars, hospitals where there has been
countless reports of paranormal activity, ghosts and spirits. Why would
the ghosts and spirits remain in a place that has
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been turned into a tourism location.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Yeah, you know, it's like when you go to the
Lizzie Bourdon Now, Lisey Board may show up if she
detached to the building or she wants to communicate. But
it's like graveyards. Graveyards are the most spirits of devoid
places on Earth. There's just a bunch of bodies there.
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There really aren't any spirits hanging around unless they unless
they come to see you. And I went to a
funeral three months ago and I saw two or three spirits. Now,
it was very unusual because I usually don't see anything
at those kinds of functions because there's nobody there. Maybe
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when these people go, when they's when these ghosts on
thes go to these places, the spirits or they're not.
I don't think they're trapped, and I don't think they
want to be there, but I think they want to
be seen. They want someone to maybe acknowledge them, so
they go to where where they're going. So you know,
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if I'm if I'm motivated to go to an abandoned
prison somewhere and I see spirits, and maybe because they
want me, they want to be seen by somebody, and
they know that we're there to do that, so they'll
show up. I don't think they reside here because I
think we go back a day later and not find anything.
Speaker 6 (53:18):
A lot of investigators also use photographs of orbs as
evidence of spirits, that these orbs are actually spirits. So
what are you What are your thoughts and comments about orbs?
That are the photographs of orbs that are taken.
Speaker 7 (53:38):
They they can be spirit, they can also be dust.
So what I look for is sometimes I do. What
I do is I look for if I if I
if I see an orb. I've caught some orbs on
my ring camera and other cameras. I look for other
phenomenon at the same time, Like I heard my father's
(54:02):
voice in the living room and I turned I didn't
so I was lady didn't want to get out of bed.
So I turned on the speaker in the microphone. I said,
he's there, and it was mean, Daddy, it's mean. And
then when I reviewed everything, I saw a couple of
orbs flying by. So then that seems more credible to me,
But it could, you know. And I also looked a
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lot of these orbs that are really spiritual in their
quality have a face. I look for that. That's also
helpful because other than that, they could be spiritual. But
you really don't know, because it could be a piece
of best flying by.
Speaker 6 (54:44):
I asked a paranormal investigator the other night why morgs
are not not only morgs, but funeral parlors are not
getting any reports of hauntings or ghost activity. Any ideas why?
Speaker 7 (55:01):
Yeah, they're not there when I was when I was
a young lady.
Speaker 6 (55:09):
So we're talking three years ago.
Speaker 7 (55:12):
Okay, right, thank you very much. I wasn't true what
field of science I wanted to go in. So I
went and I decided to do a little stuff in
the morgue. I didn't see anybody. I mean, I saw bodies,
but I didn't see any spirit. A spirit may be
attached to their physical being and be either or again,
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they want to be seen and they maybe they know
you're a psychic for some reason, and they show up.
But usually the attachment to the mortal body is just
right after they died and then they kind of, you know,
hover a little bit and then they go on. So
these people had donated their body to science, so they
were in refrigerator for a long time. There was really
no attachment emotionally to the body, so they weren't there
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for that. So, you know, I didn't see anybody. I
did not see any And I have a friend who
have to works in a in a funeral home, and
I said, do you ever feel anything? Do you ever
see anything? And creepy you know stuff? You're like, No? None.
Speaker 6 (56:14):
Wow, Lauren, Lauren, the time has come when I must
say so long to you, my dear friend. First of all,
thank you so much for taking time out of your
busy schedule to join us here tonight on the x Zone,
and you know, for sharing your experience and your knowledge
with the members of the x O Nation who listened
to us right here on Classic twelve twenty. So thank
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you very much, and listen to you and your family
and your friends and your team the very best of
the season to you both and all, and I look
forward to speaking to you in the new year.
Speaker 7 (56:48):
Happy New Year, okay, Happy New Year, married Christmas Avionica,
all that stuff, all.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
Right, Lauren, take care of yourself.
Speaker 5 (56:54):
God bless you.
Speaker 6 (56:55):
And that's it for tonight, x Oonation. I'll be back
tomorrow night as once again we cross the time space
continuum to this place that I call the X Zone.
And we're coming to you from our broadcast center in
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So until next we meet here in the X Zone.
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Always remember Xzonation to keep your eyes to the sky
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And good evening one and online. Welcome back to the
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It's a place where people dare to believe and dare
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on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and streaming around
the world and into the great Beyond on Classic twelve
twenty CA. My guest this hour exphonation is a young
lady that I've had the pleasure of talking to a
number of times. Her name is Lauren corn Gold and
she is in Miami, Florida, and Karen, welcome back, Lauren,
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I'm sorry, welcome back to the X Zone.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
Well, thank you once again for having me. It's my pleasure, Laurden.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Well, I was born in Miami, and to the point,
I am a psychic medium. I started seeing spirits when
I was about jevin six as far maybe before, I
don't remember, and I've been seeing them and marring them
every since.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Okay, let's go back to the very first time that
you can remember using your psychic abilities. When did you
When did that happen?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Well, the first time I remember, I was very sick.
I used to get what they used to call the crew,
and my mother used to put me into bed with
these wet sheets over me, and I was very sick.
I was coughing. I was probably about six or seven,
and all of a sudden I saw these shadows outside
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of the seat walking around me. And then all of
a sudden, this woman appeared in front of my feet,
and she had all this wonderful light coming from her.
It did look like radiating light. It sort of looked
like the photosphere of the sun, with these big pixels
of light go up and down. And she looked at
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me and I could tell that she was not like me, solid,
but she was smiling, and she said to me, honey,
don't worry, You're going to be just fine. And then
she was gone, and so were the others that I
never knew where the others were behind the seat, but
those shadow people or whatever you want to call them,
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they were also gone. And I just, you know, it
felt strange but yet so natural, like I don't know,
like super supposed to be there.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
What type of psychic abilities do you possess, Laura, And
how do you manifest them? How do you get them
to kick in?
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Well? I see and hear of spirits. I don't really
do anything to manifest them. I kind of just walk
into a room and I either see something or I
hear something. Although I do medicate, and when after a
medication period of about twenty minutes, I feel more excute,
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I feel more aware, and sometimes the voices are more
pronounced and I can see them that's when I grab
my camera and take your pick or take an audio
so that people don't think I'm schizophrenic.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
So what type of different methods or tools do you
use when doing your psychic greetings? Do you use tarot cards, crystals?
Do you use astrology? How do you do it?
Speaker 7 (05:14):
No? I do have tarot cards and get A friend
of mine suggested that I learned the tarrot and I
was I'm terrible at it. I had to write on
the cards what you know what? Like the death card,
for instance, means chain, you know the you know the sun?
(05:36):
What does this mean? So you know when you have
to do that. That's not really your forte and just
wasn't working out. So I gave that up and I
wasn't really getting anything from it. So I don't really
use crystals or or anything. The most I do is
I do like some candles for medication, and I do
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have I do something called sprying. I take pictures through
a clear glass for refraction or on mirror for reflection,
and I do see spirit picks. I take your picks
and I put it, you know, on my web page
and let other people see them. So when I explain
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to them that it works. They can actually see the
empirical evidence that it does work.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Laurten, what's your personal philosophy or your belief system regarding
psychic readings and the spiritual realm in general?
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well, the spirit world is real when you die. I
don't know how it happens. But when you die, you
do transcend to another level. How it happens, I don't know.
I have asked the spirits, how does it happen? How
does it You've just come out of your body? How
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does it work? And I was told it's not for
me to know. Okay, I accept that I don't really
get any psychic readings done to me because I have
in the past, and they're usually very incorrect. You know,
I always get I see that you either you're looking
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for psychic development, and I really, you know, I see
that you want answers because you don't know how to
find them. I'm like, really, so, so I guess you know,
I guess you're getting wires crossed with somebody else. You know.
I don't tell them I'm a psychic, so you know,
you know, because you know, you know, the usual scamming
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kind of thing. So I just don't get any readings
and I don't give any readings or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So if you don't give readings, how do you use
your psychic gift.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, people do call me up and they say, I think,
you know, there's a spirit in my house, and they
usually want to tell who they think it is, and
I usually tell them not to because I like to
walk into a building or a dwelling and do a
cold reading. I don't want any information. I want to
talk to the spirit myself and find out what they say,
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who they are. And a lot of times people I
hope it's my grandmother. I hope it's my dogs, you know,
that sort of thing, and that may influence me by,
you know, by leading the spirit on, Oh your aunt Minni. Right?
Maybe not so I just like to walk in and
you should just have my cell phone. I do have cameras,
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but I just usually walk in with my cell phone
and I turn it on record if I feel something,
and obviously if I see something, I just start taking
pics and ask them to tell me who they are
and why they're here, or they attached to the place,
so they attached to the people. I've gotten all kinds
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of people, people from the guides and cancers, suicide, motorcycle assance,
you name it.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
So you're not like the typical psychic who has a
telephone number that they give out or they do readings
on skype, zoom or any other modalities. You actually go
to the place and do your psychic psychic job there.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yes, And I'm not in it for the money because
I don't get paid. I've never ever ever taken a
dime for what I do. Never. I feel like I
am put here to help people, and I don't have
a problem with getting paid hed. I mean, if you're
a copper firefighter, you're helping people, you should be paid.
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But for me, it doesn't feel right. It feels more business, see,
you know, and I think that would we kind of
play with my abilities. And I don't feel that the
spirit will particularly wants me to get paid. I mean,
I've done well enough without without having to be paid,
(10:15):
and it's just kind of an interference. Though. No, I
don't do you know, I don't do readings or I
don't you know, tell people, you know, I see your area,
you know, give me twenty bucks. So no, I don't.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
All right, So you go into a house and you
use your psychic abilities to establish whether or not there
is in fact a spirit or something that is causing
paranormal activity in the home. You discover that you're one
hundred percent sure that's what it is, what do you
do next.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Well, it depends on what their people want. I see,
if a lot of times they say, oh, it's my
it's my grandma. I'll take a pick of the spirit
and I'll show it to the people and they say, oh,
that's my grandma or that's my uncle, and they see
that they're overjoyed that if they're there, and then I
just don't do anything. I just give them the information
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and if they want to post it, they can post it.
If they want me to post it, uh to show
other people I do that. I'd never ask because I
don't want them to feel pressured. Most of the time
they don't want me to post it as private, and
I just leave. Now. If it's if it's somebody or
an entity that is a malevolent and I've I've been
(11:31):
told of you know, culture guisee activity, or you know
somebody say get out or something, then what I do
is I go over there and I like some white
stage and I talk to the spirit and I try
to scare the hell out of it so that it
leads to the dwelling. And I'm pretty good at that.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
How do you how do you scare a spirit when
a spirit is dead and they really have nothing to fear.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Well, what I have found is that they have a
certain most of them are oldest spirits, or they have
a certain image of females, so that they expect me
to be frightened or that, you know. And what I
do is I have the nobody talks boy talk better
than me. I have a silty mouth, and I use
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the language that would make your hair curl. And that
usually scares the crap out of them because they're not
expecting that. And they and I tell them, I'll smudg
you out. And for some reason, and I don't know why,
the idea of being mugs through a lot of spirits
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is really quite frightening. And they leave. I've never had
anyone call me and say they're back. I have They
never gotten that?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Wow. So having a poddy mouth and being a lady
at the same time comes in handy sometimes.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Yes, I hope my grandmother isn't listening.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, if she is, you'll find out later.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Yes, I guess I will.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Lauren, please stand by you and I have to take
our first break explanation. Lauren Cornngold is my special guest
and her website is www dot get my Spirit stream
now dot com. Get my Spirit stream now dot com.
And Lauren is also with the Paranormal Research Investigatorship Society
(13:35):
of Miami. And we'll both be back on the other
side of this break as the excellent continues with here'
streli Rob McConnell from our broadcast center and studios in
Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, right here on your hometown radio
Classic twelve twenty and streaming around the world and into
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Speaker 6 (15:48):
You never have one of those days where you want
to say something, the brain goes says, all right, you
turn right, but you end up turning left.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
But that's what just happened with me.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Our guest this hour is Lowering Corn Gold and she
is with the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of Miami and
her website is get my Spirit stream Now dot com.
Is Miami a very haunted place?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yeah, it is. It's not known for it here in
the States, places like South Carolina and Massachusi. You know,
New England, the Civil Wars and the Revolutionary work. But
Miami actually is a pretty haunted place. We have a
lot of old time mansions and hotels that like the
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built North, that have spirits in them. I think it's
haunted everywhere on this planet. You know, wherever there's a
piece of land, I think there's some spirits around but yes,
Miami is is quite haunted.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Tell us about the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of Miami.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Well, what we do is like like you know, ghost hunting,
typical ghost hunting group I formed the group. Ours is
a little bit different. I wanted to have. I wanted
there to be a certain rules. For instance, never post
anything of a celebrity or somebody a friend without telling
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the family first. You know, don't tell we're not in
just to make a name for ourselves. And some of
my team members, you know, they didn't like that, you know,
they want to well in school, let's post it. But
also we always have two people with us, two people
together in a room, so that there could never be
any you know, accusation of fraud and manipulation. We go
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into houses. Sometimes I walk right into the house and
I see something. Uh sometimes I don't whether I do
or I don't. We treat it as if we see nothing.
We put up in for red cameras, both second cameras
with quarters grids, all that kind of stuff, even if
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I see something right there, because there's always something that
I miss and we want to record it for the
benefit of the people that are having us come over
and what we do is unlike a lot of paranormal
research group, we don't generally spend the entire night there.
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There seems to be some belief that spirits come out
more at night. They do not. It's just that it
gives us an opportunity to use a lot of cool
technology like infra red and can't use during the day.
So if you go there at nine o'clock in the
morning and there's a spirit there, it's going to be
there at nine o'clock in the morning or nine o'clock
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at night. So we usually wrap it up within three
or four hours of getting there. We don't spend There's
nothing magical about nighttime.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I was talking to a paranormal investigator and I asked them, well,
why do you guys do this at night? And he said, well,
it's very simple because we worked during the day.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Oh yes, yeah, a lot of us have you know,
other jobs or real businesses. Yes, but some people think, oh,
good nighttime, you know, life out here, they're all going
to come out now. Well, if they didn't come out
when you were there for this, you know, the three
hours when the sun was above their rise, and they're
probably not going to come out. Now.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
If they're there, they're there. And if they're not, well
they're not. Where has where in your experience has been
the most haunted location that you and your team have
done an investigation?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
At my house?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Your house, you're out?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Yes, my house? Yes? How we loaded the spirits?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
And where did all these spirits come from?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Well? I have a friend who is a psychic and
we've been friends for about thirty years. And she said,
you know, you have a portal in your house and
I said, no, I don't, I would feel it. She says, well,
I don't know what you're feeling, but you have a
portal in your house. So I asked the spirits, you know,
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there's so many of you here. I know it's not
a portal, so what is it? And they said it's
a portal. I said, oh it is. I said, okay,
that's what I was told. I'm amazed that I didn't,
you know, put that pick up on that. They said, well,
you know, maybe you have a little prejudice against it,
but there is a portal here. And somebody referred to
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it like like grand centistation. Some of them are just
passing through like stragglers and they have nothing to do
with me, and they just are passing on by and
I just happened to see them or take their pick
or hear their voices, and they're not interested in me
at all. They're just walking on by. Other times it's
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angels or guy or my father. So it depends. But
there are a lot of spirits here, and there are
a lot of portals, and wherever there's a portal, there's
going to be a bunch of spirits, good and bad,
passing through it.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
So where does this portal portal come from? What is
the destination on the other side.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
I don't know. All I know is I've been fortunate
enough to take pictures of when the portal is opened
and there's light coming out. So I guess when they
say going into the light, I guess that's really true,
because when there's a birth of light, there seems to
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be a birth of energy that I feel. And then
you could see these spirits, you know, just streaming out
and it's almost like a bus door opening and everybody's
coming out and then they're gone. But I don't know what.
I don't know what's on the other side. I just
know that the light of the spirits and they come
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and go.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Now, the spirits that come and go, are they always
positive spirits or do you get negative spirits demonic spirits
as well?
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Hmm, how do you how do you deal with the
negative spirits or the demonic spirits?
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Party?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Now contes? Here we go.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
You must have been a sailor in a previous life, right.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Except I have no tattoos, so I don't know, but
you're probably right something like that, because that usually takes
care of it. But you know, what I have found
is that a lot of the spirits that I have,
I haven't had too many negative encounters, but those that
I have had, they're not really evil. They're mostly angry,
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and they're angry because some of them are murder victims.
Some of them never got justice. You know, I had
one guy tell me my pillar is still walking work.
I'm really sorry about that, but it isn't going to
be any good hanging on to resentment. So a lot
of times what we proceded being evil is more like
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it's they're angry.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I can understand that. So do you try and get
them to go to the light.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Well, I used to say, go into the light. There's
peace and love and the light and I once had
a guy say to me, I know I lived here,
I'm just out out and about, and he was kind
of had a negative attitude. He says, I'm not stuck,
if that's what you mean, So why do you keep
trying to send me to a place that I've been
through a hundred times. We're out because we want to
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be out, not because they're stuck. So I stopped saying
go into the light, find peace and love and the
light that they don't always want to be in the light.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
What inspired you, Lauren to be to pursue a career
as a as a professional paranormal investigator.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Well, I guess I was always because of my you know,
psychic abilities that this you would say, I was always
interested in that, And when I was a little girl,
my father said to me, look, I don't know too
much about it, but I know this. You'd be well
advised not to tell too many people. And I did
(24:31):
not understand that, And now later on I did understand it,
because you didn't want people to think you were a nut,
but as I knew that they were real, and I
wanted other people to question, you know, what is their
life beyond this?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
What do they look like is it intelligent? Ghost? Was
astic energy? So I wanted to answer some of those
questions for myself because I didn't know, and I wanted
to sell other people that it was real and to
mostly to give comfort because I've had people say to me,
thank you so much. I'm at peace now. Because I
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had a lady from the Philippines who's her big Her
big brother was murdered and she wanted to know if
he was in the light, and I said, don't tell
me anything about him. I said, all I can tell
you is that he's standing in front of me and
he's saying to me, cool you, cool you. And she
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started to cry and I said, well what does that mean?
She goes, he's saying Coolia, Coolia. That means big brother.
And the Philippine lank was and I said, oh my god. Okay, Well,
so it gave her a sense of peace that can
know that he was around and that he and that
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her mother had just passed away and that she was
with him.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Would you say that the experiences that you share with
the people who you help, just like this Filipino lady,
are in some form or fashion very spiritual, And I
don't you know. I mean, you're doing something good your ero.
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Let's say somebody who works and walks on the right
side of the light.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
It makes me feel good because most people feel a
sense of relief. But I understand that this isn't for everyone.
I actually, you know, I had a dog sitting service
and one of my clients said to me, look, I
know you're a psychist. I know you see and hear things.
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And she said, if you ever see anything in my house,
don't tell me. I don't want to know that stuff
breaks me out. And I said, okay, and there were
things in her house, but I kept my mouth cut.
It's not for everyone. Not everybody wants to know. Some
people get, you know, the hebdbs about it, So I
get it.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
We've got about thirty seconds before I have to go
for my next break, Lauren. Do people have anything to
physically fear from the spirits?
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Not really? Uh. People talked about being touched or pushed.
I mean, I've never seen that outside of the movie.
But I mean I've been I've had a light touch
right on my body, but I've never had anybody, you know,
throw me across the room. I mean I'm not gonna
I won't say it doesn't happen because I have no
empirical evidence to preclude it from happening. But I don't
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I would say I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
That's good enough for me.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
If you say it, it's good enough for me. Well,
Harden stand by you and I have to take our
second break and explanation. Lauren corn Gold is our special guest,
and we're going to bet on the other side of
like I said, of this very short break as we
continue here in the X Zone with here's truly Rob
McConnell from our broadcast studios and corporate offices in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
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right here on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and
we're also streaming around the world and beyond on www
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the bizarre is what the X Zone is all about.
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We'll be back. Don't go away, Criss.
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Rob McConnell and all listeners and viewers of the worldwide
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The window imagine every.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Welcome back to the Exone. I'm rob Occonnell. We're coming
to you on a Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. Lauren corn Goold is my special
guest at this hour, and Lauren is in Miami, Florida. Lauren,
has there ever been a paranormal investigation that you've walked
in and felt so much negativity that you just want
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to turn around and walk away.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
No, not from spirits, but from the people that are
living there. Really, Yes, I did go against some advice
from your friend of mine to a woman who as
soon as I walked into her house, she wanted to
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preach to me whatever her particular religion was and the
belief system that whatever I find is going to be
from the devil. I said, well, then why am I here?
I mean, I'm here as an investigator, that's the operative word.
You're I'm investigating. If you only have a belief system
in place that you won't accept evidence, then I really
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couldn't be here. So now I do a much better
job about vetting people because some people are very very negative,
or they have three conceived ideas. I know it's my
dead ex husband, or how do you know that? I
just know it well, you know you be a little
open minded. No, okay, good bye, But no, I've never
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had a spiritual I've come walking to a place where
there was a lot of heavy energy. But that's the job,
you know.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
You go in and you find out how do you
and your team protect yourselves from all this negative energy
that you're you're dealing with during a paranormal investigation, and
how do you make sure you don't bring it home
with you?
Speaker 7 (32:07):
I have brought it home. I have. Uh, I've actually
was I've brought negative spirit home and uh, you know,
pot it out. I've also done. I am what called
is a remote medium. In other words, sometimes I'll just
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stay at home and a person will call me and
I can you know, sense what's going on over there
at home? And one there there was one time there
was a spirit. His name was Cardell. He was at
her house and then he ended up at my house
trying to terrorize me, and you know I got rid
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of him with my mouth and my I actually recorded discussion.
I do have the recording, and one of a couple
of my angels, my guides, came and said, don't worry,
worry about him, we'll take care of him. And then
about a half hour later he came back and I said,
you again, what are you doing here? He said, your
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your guide told me I had to come back and
apologize or they were going to stick me in hell.
I said, oh, well you probably belong there, you know,
so I guess there is some sort of punishment. You know.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
On the other side, how do you deal between the
potential paranormal activity and natural explanations?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Well, we What I tried to do is if I mean,
there's always fluctuations and energy, you can hear You could
hear something. It could be the wind and it sounds
like a voice, and it could be either either way.
So I try to run it through certain programs like
waves had and try to remove some of the things.
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Sometimes there's just iffy and if it's if he you know,
then you be you know, you be honest with the people. Listen.
You know, we're not really sure we caught a voice.
It maybe or it may not. Some of them are intelligent.
Like when my father comes, I record him and he's
always talking to me about investments, so that's not the
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wind or you know, natural phenomenon. You know, he's talking
about real estate.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
So have you ever encountered skeptics who have actually challenged
your findings? And if so, how do you deal with them?
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Well? I haven't had people really challenge my finding, but
I have had people say, I see what you're showing me,
but my explanation is different. And then they usually start
quoting some religious book that it's it is spiritual in nature,
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but I'm being led astray by forces of the darkness,
you know, that kind of just But I've never really
had anybody look at it and say it's not there.
I just had people say, you don't understand what you're doing.
You know, you think it's you know, they're really demons
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in disguise, or you know, I mean I get that
once in a while, mostly on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
How about EVPs?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
How do you explain them? You know, for the listeners
out there who have no idea what an EVP is.
A EVP is an electronic voice phenomenon where paranormal investigator
will use a digital or analog recording device. Ask a question, pause,
wait a few moments and then ask another question. Now,
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the answers or the replies from the spirits can only
be heard when the recording is played back. Now, how
do we explain that we can't hear the answer when
it's given, but later on there it is on the
recording device.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
You know, I don't know that, but you know, sometimes
I do hear it. And then I asked the teammate
or myself, I checked back the seat if what I
heard was at that time what was recorded. But very
you're right, very often we don't hear it, you know.
First you know, I've asked sir, it's I said, you know,
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how do you make it? How do you speak it? All?
You have the local cords? How do you even show yourself?
You don't have a body. And what I was told
is that they have. They manipulate energy and they manipulate
light to form either a sound way or a visual
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manifestation of themselves. I said, well, then why can't why
can't nom the psychics? Why can't I hear you all
the time? And they said, well, because the energy is
in the place that you are. There's all there's often
environmental phenomenon that prevents us from you know, communicating with you,
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and we are we are really reflecting ourselves at a
very very low frequency. So that's been my experience. So
it may be be low you know, one hundred hearts
or you know, whatever it is that we can't hear it,
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But every once in a while I'll hear a really good,
like just almost a total conversation. So I have to
presume that there are environmental factors or that you know,
enhance it or you know, remove it.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I would imagine that cell phones and Wi Fi transmissions
really screw up the attempt of investigators when it came
to establishing evidence that the paranormal is real.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Well, my cell phones have always been my friend, because
that's really all that I use. I just turn it
on and I just sit there. And somebody said to me,
and it may be true. And I never asked the
spirit I forget to ask. They said, well, did it
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never occur to you that maybe they're attracted to you?
So that's why you have good luck hearing them, And
because I do seem to get a lot of stuff
that other paranormal investigators don't get in abundance. So I said, well,
that's that's a good I never thought of that, But
that's a good Maybe I'm a spirit magnet or something,
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and there's so many of them that somebody's down to
be heard. You know, if you have a hundred people
in a room, you're going to hear at least two people.
So I said, yeah, you know, I got to ask
about that. That's a good question. Maybe there are certain
people that you're attracted to, or certain kinds of spirits.
Maybe they go, you know, like you mind meld you,
(39:13):
whatever your wavelength is, they natch you there. Not all
of them can do that.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Well, I know why your cell phone likes you because
your cell phone has experienced firsthand how your potty mouth affects,
you know, spirits and other you know, other members of
the other side, and it doesn't want to it doesn't
want to be on your bad side.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
So that's why it's nice to you.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
But yeah, they probably have gotten my name around.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Something that I've been told by many paranormal investigators is
that a lot of these spirits don't know they're dead.
And you and I were talking about how angry or
frustrated they are, and that this is one of the
major causes they don't know why people can see them
they don't know why people can't hear them. They don't
know why these why they're being neglected. It's because they
(40:10):
don't know they're dead.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
What's your opinion on that.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
I've never had that experience. I came in No, not
that I remember. I believed that because you know, you'd
see people, you'd hear other paranormal investigators of psychics say
they see people walking around in period clothing, so they
must think that they're back in the eighteenth century or
you know, whatever it is. But I have asked them,
(40:36):
I've seen people that look like, you know, they're wearing
you know, American revolutionary clothing or something, And I say,
you know, you do realize the American Revolution is over,
and you know we're death buddies that England. Now you
do know that? And well, of course I know that
you know at that time to say, yes, it's twenty eighteen.
(40:56):
Oh you're aware of the passage of time. Why do
you look this way? And they said, because this is
who I am and this is the most exciting time
of my life. I've been told that I have never
melt met anyone who says, well I am waiting, you know,
you know, I mean they could see the TV, they
can see the electricity, they can they know something is
(41:19):
going on. I've never I've never talked to anybody who said,
what do you mean, you know Abraham Lincoln was just assassinated,
you know, eighteen sixty five or whatever. I mean, I've
never I've never had that experience.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
How do you figure that a ghost or a spirit
that is energy can wear period clothing when clothing doesn't
have any energy.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Well, they're not wearing the clothing wearing I mean they're like, Okay,
if you're looking at a spirit and this man or
woman manifests their faith and you can see the face,
they can manisfess what the clothing look like at the time.
It's just it's just not part of their skin. They're
(42:07):
able to form, like they can form their face or
their arms, they can form the clothes. I don't know
how they know. I tend to think it's instinctual because
I don't think they have a big clothing door on
the other side. He can, you know, dressing you up.
So I think it's something that you innately do. Because
(42:31):
when my mother passed away.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
All right, we're going to have to hold you off
here because we do have to take our final break,
so please stand by. Lauren Cornold is our special guest exonation,
and we're talking about spirits, psychics, paranormal investigations and much more.
And Melaurna and I will be back on the other
side of this break as we continue hearing the X
Zone from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
(42:56):
right here on Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the
world on Classic twelve twenty.
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Speaker 5 (43:26):
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Speaker 7 (43:29):
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Speaker 5 (43:52):
Love you are even today.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
And welcome back everyone.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
This is the excellent.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
I'm Rob McConnell and you're listening to us on Classic
twelve twenty or online at www dot Classic twelve twenty
dot CA. Lorden Cornwold is our special guest and Louren.
If somebody listening to us tonight is inspired and motivated
by by our conversation and they too want to become
(44:23):
a paranormal investigator, what should they do? How would they
go about it?
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Well, the first thing that they should do is read.
Keep an open mind. Don't think you know everything. I
still know very little in comparison to what I hope
to learn a lot of times that you know, I
know my experience when I really started investigating, I got.
I had a lot of surprises, a lot of old notions.
(44:52):
I had to put aside the prejudices that I did
realize I had. So I would tell that person to
watch other or normal investigators, get a mentor even if
it's online, read the books all that. Get as much
information as you can so that you do it right
(45:14):
and go slowly. There's no spirits aren't going anywhere. You
don't have to invest in fat millions of dollars or
one hundreds of dollars even to capture spirit energies, So
you know, don't run out and buy you know, seven
hundred dollars cameras. You don't need that. You need a
cell phone, you need a flashlight, you need a digital
(45:37):
audio recorder or even even one with a little tape
in it, and patience, and that's all you need.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
What are some of the misconceptions about paranormal investigation that
that you'd like to dispel.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
Tonight, Well, first of all, is the one that we
spoke of earlier, that that spirits have a tendency to
come out at night. Right, that that's not true. A
lot of my best investigation has been during the day. Also,
that you don't that you have to have certain kinds
of equipment. You don't have to have certain kinds of equipment.
(46:13):
You don't have to have powerful recorders and things like that,
because you know, if the cell phone can pick it up,
that that's really all that you need. And also that
the biggest thing that investigators, I think make a mistake
is that there's two impatience. They My way is to
(46:38):
turn on a recorder, let the recorder run for twenty
seconds at least before you even open your mouth, and
then ask one question and shut up and give them
thirty seconds to answer, and then ask another. Investigators spend
a lot of time talking instead of listening. Listen, listen, listen,
(46:58):
and you will be successful in this.
Speaker 6 (47:02):
What are the ethical guidelines or principles that you follow
in your paranormal investigations that you'd like to share with
the listeners.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
Well, first of all, you have to you have to
analyze yourself why are you in this? Are you in
it because you want to keep knowledge and learn and
contact the other side, or you want to make a
name for yourself, or you want to feel cool. So
the ghosts, your spirit, whatever you want to call it,
always comes first. Secondly, the people that you're that own
(47:34):
the home or the buildings always come second. In other words,
you always have to consider their feelings. Do not ever
put anything on the internet. Do not talk about it.
It's almost like you're like a confessor. Keep it private
unless the person that you're working with, or the homeowner
(47:56):
or whatever it tells you to release it. Stop don't.
You're not in it for you. You're just a conduit
between the other side, the spirit world, and those of
us that are still living. That's all you are. And
remember that that you are the least important person in
the whole procedures.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Have you ever collaborated with any other paranormal investigation groups
and how does that work?
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Not with groups, but I did have a friend who
did it herself, and she's from Atlanta, and we used
to collaborate together a little bit, and then the pandemic
hit and everything kind of you know, stop, and you know,
we just kind of drifted apart. And I have I
have worked with other paranormal investigators. What I have not
(48:49):
done and will not do, is work with any psychic,
because when I go in as a paranormal investigator, I
don't go in as a psychic. I go in as
an investigator. Like I said earlier, if I walk into
a house and I see a spirit, I will of
course take out my equipments, but I still put up
(49:09):
all the stuff as if I don't see them because
I am an investigator. They didn't call for a psychic.
They called for an investigator, so they're kind of I
kind of wear two hats. I don't really I mean,
I have an advantage because I'm a psychic, but I
don't count on that. I count on the evidence that
(49:30):
it is caught on the cameras and the recording.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
What about these TV shows that are up there, the
different ghost shows. It seems that a lot of things
happen in a very short period of time on their shows,
and yet is there's never anything that is that is evidence.
What's your take on the shows?
Speaker 7 (49:52):
Well, yeah, you know, it is funny because you know,
you spend more time not getting anything than getting it,
you know what I mean. It's sort of like if
somebody's there and they want to talk to you, you're
probably gonna hear from them the first fifteen minutes. If
they're not going to talk to you in fifteen minutes
or a half hour, they're probably you have nothing to
say or there's nothing there. Yes, I've always wanted you know,
(50:17):
there probably is a lot of times with these shows
that they don't get anything. You just don't. You know,
they don't air that because you know it's foreign, right,
so they air that. They they air the stuff where
things are a little bit active, you know, But even
(50:38):
then you got to take it with a grain of
salt because you don't know if they're manipulating it. I
would say they're not, because I think a lot of
them have the same rules that you never leave people alone.
There's always two investigators in a room at the same time,
and there are some that are more reliable than others.
(51:00):
I mean, now on x formerly Twitter, there's nothing, there's
nothing but ghost hunters. You know, if somebody picks up
a camera and says, oh, hey, I'm going to go
to seven to eleven and do it ghost hunting, you
can't do that. I mean, you can do it, but
I mean you've got to take it with a brain
of salt, and you really have to do research and
not just the enthusiastics, but but really be professional.
Speaker 6 (51:24):
A lot of these shows and individual groups and investigators
love going to prisons, bars, hospitals where there has been
countless reports of paranormal activity, ghosts and spirits. Why would
the ghosts and spirits remain in a place that has
(51:45):
been turned into a tourism location.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Yeah, you know, it's like when you go to the
Lizzie Bourdon Now, Lisey Board may show up if she
detached to the building or she wants to communicate. But
it's like graveyards. Graveyards are the most spirits of devoid
places on Earth. There's just a bunch of bodies there.
(52:13):
There really aren't any spirits hanging around unless they unless
they come to see you. And I went to a
funeral three months ago and I saw two or three spirits. Now,
it was very unusual because I usually don't see anything
at those kinds of functions because there's nobody there. Maybe
(52:36):
when these people go, when they's when these ghosts on
thes go to these places, the spirits or they're not.
I don't think they're trapped, and I don't think they
want to be there, but I think they want to
be seen. They want someone to maybe acknowledge them, so
they go to where where they're going. So you know,
(52:57):
if I'm if I'm motivated to go to an abandoned
prison somewhere and I see spirits, and maybe because they
want me, they want to be seen by somebody, and
they know that we're there to do that, so they'll
show up. I don't think they reside here because I
think we go back a day later and not find anything.
Speaker 6 (53:18):
A lot of investigators also use photographs of orbs as
evidence of spirits, that these orbs are actually spirits. So
what are you What are your thoughts and comments about orbs?
That are the photographs of orbs that are taken.
Speaker 7 (53:38):
They they can be spirit, they can also be dust.
So what I look for is sometimes I do. What
I do is I look for if I if I
if I see an orb. I've caught some orbs on
my ring camera and other cameras. I look for other
phenomenon at the same time, Like I heard my father's
(54:02):
voice in the living room and I turned I didn't
so I was lady didn't want to get out of bed.
So I turned on the speaker in the microphone. I said,
he's there, and it was mean, Daddy, it's mean. And
then when I reviewed everything, I saw a couple of
orbs flying by. So then that seems more credible to me,
But it could, you know. And I also looked a
(54:23):
lot of these orbs that are really spiritual in their
quality have a face. I look for that. That's also
helpful because other than that, they could be spiritual. But
you really don't know, because it could be a piece
of best flying by.
Speaker 6 (54:44):
I asked a paranormal investigator the other night why morgs
are not not only morgs, but funeral parlors are not
getting any reports of hauntings or ghost activity. Any ideas why?
Speaker 7 (55:01):
Yeah, they're not there when I was when I was
a young lady.
Speaker 6 (55:09):
So we're talking three years ago.
Speaker 7 (55:12):
Okay, right, thank you very much. I wasn't true what
field of science I wanted to go in. So I
went and I decided to do a little stuff in
the morgue. I didn't see anybody. I mean, I saw bodies,
but I didn't see any spirit. A spirit may be
attached to their physical being and be either or again,
(55:33):
they want to be seen and they maybe they know
you're a psychic for some reason, and they show up.
But usually the attachment to the mortal body is just
right after they died and then they kind of, you know,
hover a little bit and then they go on. So
these people had donated their body to science, so they
were in refrigerator for a long time. There was really
no attachment emotionally to the body, so they weren't there
(55:56):
for that. So, you know, I didn't see anybody. I
did not see any And I have a friend who
have to works in a in a funeral home, and
I said, do you ever feel anything? Do you ever
see anything? And creepy you know stuff? You're like, No? None.
Speaker 6 (56:14):
Wow, Lauren, Lauren, the time has come when I must
say so long to you, my dear friend. First of all,
thank you so much for taking time out of your
busy schedule to join us here tonight on the x Zone,
and you know, for sharing your experience and your knowledge
with the members of the x O Nation who listened
to us right here on Classic twelve twenty. So thank
(56:34):
you very much, and listen to you and your family
and your friends and your team the very best of
the season to you both and all, and I look
forward to speaking to you in the new year.
Speaker 7 (56:48):
Happy New Year, okay, Happy New Year, married Christmas Avionica,
all that stuff, all.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
Right, Lauren, take care of yourself.
Speaker 5 (56:54):
God bless you.
Speaker 6 (56:55):
And that's it for tonight, x Oonation. I'll be back
tomorrow night as once again we cross the time space
continuum to this place that I call the X Zone.
And we're coming to you from our broadcast center in
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada on Classic twelve twenty
and around the world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
So until next we meet here in the X Zone.
(57:17):
Always remember Xzonation to keep your eyes to the sky
and your heart to the light. I'm Rob McConnell.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
Good night everyone,
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