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Lynda Quirino has been in the paranormal field for 43 years, and has experienced unexplained phenomena all of her life. At 18 years of age, she began to investigate the paranormal while at Vanier college in her hometown of Montreal, and also during her years at McGill University. She continued to research and investigate on her own until relocating to the Toronto area in 1986. From 1986 to 1996, she continued to work primarily on her own, investigating local hauntings and paranormal issues until, in 1997, she became the Assistant Director of the Toronto Ghosts and Hauntings Research Society. Lynda left the TGHRS in 2003, and once again worked “freelance” in the field, concentrating on investigating and researching local cases. After giving a presentation on ghosts and hauntings at the local library in Georgina, Ontario, the town where she now resides, Lynda realized that the need for a paranormal team was very much needed. In 2012, she founded The Georgina Paranormal Society. Currently, Lynda is the Executive Director of the Georgina Paranormal Society, and appears on the television show “Paranormal Survivor” as one of its paranormal “Experts”. She has appeared on many paranormal podcasts, radio, and local television shows, currently hosting a weekly cable lifestyle show (“Georgina Life”) in her now hometown of Georgina, Ontario, Canada. Lynda also lectures and gives presentations on the paranormal for various organizations throughout Canada.


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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the XI Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality. Now here's your host, Rob Kannoll.

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Speaker 3 (01:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
And welcome back to the xone everyone. I am Rob McConnell,
and for the next two hours, I'm your host and
your guide as together we cross the time space continuum
to this place that I call the Xone. It's a
place where people dared to believe and dare to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
The Xzone comes to Monday through Friday from ten pm
Eastern until midnight right here from our studio so the

(01:36):
x On Broadcast Network in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada. And
you're listening to us tonight on your hometown radio Classic
twelve twenty streaming Classic twelve twenty dot CA. If you'd
like to send me an email ex On Nation, I
always enjoy reading your emails. My email address is X
Zone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA. My first guest

(01:58):
tonight XON Nation is is Linda corin now and she
is in Keswick, Ontario, which is so. I was talking
to Linda just before we went on, and she was
telling me Keswick is about a half hour north of
Newmarket and one of the very first stations the XE
was broadcast on was CKDX, and I think it's ninety

(02:20):
eight point something up in Newmarket, Ontario. Great place, lovely people.
And joining me now is Linda Corino and we're going
to be talking to Linda about the paranormal investigations, including
experiences with ghosts and hauntings, full bodied apparitions, elementals, UFO experiences,
and various methods of communications and investigation. And this is

(02:43):
what I loved about the information she sent us. She says,
I have been in this wacky field for forty three
years and have much experience with old school investigative techniques
as well as some of the newer equipment, though I
am not a equipment heavy investigator. Linda, Welcome to the
X Zone.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm really
honored to be here.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, it's great having you here, especially a fellow Ontarian,
you know, yes, yeah, uh, Keswick that's a beautiful part
of the country. Is that on the four hundred going north.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's actually on the four oh four, and we're on
the beautiful shores of Lake Simcoe.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Oh. Lake Simple is beautiful.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yes, we have a very own monster in Lake Simcoe.
I don't know if you know that, but we do.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well. I thought that was one of my ex girlfriends,
but I guess there is a well what's what's what's
the name of the monster?

Speaker 5 (03:40):
You know what, there's there's all kinds of different names,
but we just call it, you know, Lake Simcoe Monster.
That's all we call it. And I'm sure that there
are a couple of people I know, one in particular,
rod Erkhart, who is a local, a local celebrity newspaperman.
He knows all the names. But we just call it

(04:01):
the monster and believe it or not. I actually got
a picture we think of the monster inadvertently when I
was taking some shots of the lake from Saint George's
churchyard where Stephen Leacock is buried in Sipples Point. So
they're using that for a book that is coming out
about the Lake Simple Monster. So that's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, there's a lot of Lake monsters in Canada, there's
one and let me see Champlain Lake Champlain that borders
the province of Quebec and state of New York. It's
called Champ. We have one here in lake here we
called Erie Pogo. Let me see, I'm serious, Yeah, let
me see where. What else is there? There's Ogo Pogo

(04:44):
in British Columbia. Right, Oh my god, I easter them all.
Well wait a minute, Lake minform magog. There's men free yes,
that's right, Yeah, and a whole bunch of lake monsters.
But first of all, before we get into the good
stuff and uh, you know, the wacky things that you've
been up to, let's talk about who you are. How

(05:04):
did you get involved in what you're doing?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Well? I got involved when I was very young because
I had experiences as a child, and you know, silly me,
I shared them with my friends and so going through
high school, sie jepp because I'm actually from Montreal.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh wait a second, hold on here, hold on here?
What part? What part of Montreal?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I'm actually from? Sailor wrong?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, isn't that funny? Because I'm originally from Montreal. Really really,
I did not know this. Obviously you didn't read my bio.
You know, I'm from Montreal and we lived in Dollar
days Armo. And then I was with the police force
and I was in Hudson, Quebec for a while and yeah,

(05:54):
beautiful Bill, say Lauran, were you near you? Were you
near Canada or Canada Era Airport?

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Actually we were down the road from Van Ye College.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
All right, one of the best see jeps in Canada.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, that's where I went to see zep. And I
walked back and forth to school every day. And honestly,
whatever weather, who cares. When you're from Montreal, you don't care.
You just you just do it. You walk back and forth,
you put on the coat, you put on the muck lugs,
and you go.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know, it's so funny because here we in Ontario,
we hear people say, oh it's cool, Oh look at
the snow, and I go, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Anyway, great to have a fellow in Montreal or with
us tonight. And so you had some weird and wacky
what kind of instant you know, like what did you
what happened that you would tell your friends at school
and they kind of look at you as if you
had three eyes.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well, it was an interesting thing because when I was
really little, my parents had a cottage and it was
in the Laurentians and a place called Nuago, which is
not too far from More in Heights. You probably know
More in Heights do, and so they had a cottage
up there and we went all the time. But when
I was and I'm going to say really young, I'm

(07:20):
going to say three or four, and I still remember
it like it was yesterday, they would put me to
sleep in the bedroom, which was on the main floor,
and I remember going to bed and hearing everybody else
still up and doing whatever they were doing. But because
it was sort of you know, darkish in the room,

(07:40):
all of these faces would come in and out and
kind of say hello to me and make wacky faces
trying to make me laugh, and I thought it was hilarious.
So of course, as a little child, I would tell
my parents there's people in that room when I go
to sleep, and they do weird things and they wear
strange hats. So my mother said, what kind of hats?

(08:01):
She never made fun of me. Both my parents are
very creative. They never made fun of me. They always
were very curious as to, you know, what was going
on in the world. So they asked me questions and
I told them they have funny hats that have like
a dent in them. So that was that, and of
course I kept seeing them. I kept seeing them for
at least a couple of years, and then they kind

(08:23):
of went away. You know, you hear stories of children
who see things and then all of a sudden, you know,
the world gets in the way, and then they don't
see things anymore. That's sort of what happened to me.
But interestingly enough, we were watching cartoons one day and
we were watching Dudley do Right and.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
North Dudley do Right of the Northwest mount Place and
his girlfriend nell Or is that his horse? I forget.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
That's good, that's very good kids parties. Yeah, it was
weird because I pointed to the TV screen and said,
those are the hats that they wore when they kept
looking at me at night. And my mother said to me, well,
you realize that that particular room your grandfather built the

(09:08):
cottage over an old mounty station, So there you go.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Wow. Yeah, you know, I seriously here for a second
or two. Children children have the ability, I believe, to
see here and experience things that we as adults are
taught to forget because we're you know, we're born into

(09:33):
a world where there is no such thing as a
negative influence until we start going to school, and this
is where things start changing. And you know, our grandchildren
talked about angels, and we never my wife and I
never discouraged talking like that, you know, because if we
understand that there is much more to this existence than

(09:56):
we could ever imagine, and if anybody thinks we're actually
close to understanding what this world is about, I think
that they need to just go to sleep, wake up
again and say, okay, let's try this again.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Exactly, yeah, exactly. So I'm telling you it's a really
interesting thing because even now, we get so many messages
from people who have little children who ask us, okay,
so is it true that children can see and hear
and experience things that we can't, Because my kid is

(10:30):
seeing things and experiencing things, and I'm a little freaked out.
So but to my parents' credit, they weren't freaked out
at all. They were very intrigued. And I thought it
was really interesting that the cottage was actually built over
this room, which was an old Mounty station, and that
I would experience what I guess at the time I

(10:52):
thought were funny people, but they were obviously coming in
and saying hello and probably just stuck in that space.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Have you ever done any research to find out if
any of the members who actually resided there died there
or why do you think that the Mounties from years
gone by who left this plane were actually still there?

Speaker 5 (11:15):
You know, it's interesting because I do believe that there's
sort of an imprint of place, and if a person
is very rooted to that particular place, if they have
any experiences there that they might consider to be either wonderful, helpful,
or even tragic, I think that they may go back

(11:38):
to that place to see what's going on. I don't
necessarily think that they're stuck there, though, I do think
that they probably came in and out because it was
a memory place. I mean, we all have memory places,
right places that they affect us. I mean, that's what
they are. The atmosphere in that place just kind of
makes an imprint on who we are, on our energetic,

(12:02):
you know reality. So I think that's that's probably what happened.
But no, I mean, I gosh, my parents sold the
cottage when I was quite young, and I didn't really
get into paranormal investigation until a few years obviously after that,
but it was certainly a memory that I had and

(12:22):
it influenced everything in my life going forward. I mean,
I would share experiences like that in the in the
school yard and people would say, oh, there's no such
thing as ghosts, and I would say, well, I believe
that there are, and they would say no, of course not.
And then of course they would take me aside when
nobody was looking and say, Okay, can we talk about
some of the experiences that I had because I don't

(12:45):
have anybody that I can talk to.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Linda's done by, my dear you and I have to
take our first break in the explanation. Linda Kerr, you
always our special guest, and the website is Georgina Paranormal
Society dot Weebley dot com. Ghost Normal Things that Go
Bump of the Night UFOs. That's what this show is
all about. Monday through Friday from ten pm Eastern until
midnight right here on the Excellent Broadcast Network and on

(13:09):
your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the
world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. We'll be back
on the other side of this break. Don't go away.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
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Speaker 4 (13:38):
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It's hard.

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Speaker 3 (14:26):
One day.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And welcome back everyone. This is the excell and I'm
Rob McConnell. Linda Karino was our special guest on their
website or her website with the Georgina Paranormal Society is
www dot Georgina Paranormal Society dot weeble dot com. Wow.
And when was it that you decided to, you know,
do investigations and you know, form the Georgina Paranormal Society.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Well, I actually started doing investigation a long time ago,
forty three years ago. But I did them by myself
at the time and with friends who I was willing
or who were willing to accompany me. But I did.
I formed the Georgia Paranormal Society in twenty twelve, long

(15:19):
time after I first started. But you know, when I
lived in Montreal, I did them by myself with friends,
and then when I got married, my husband was transferred
two weeks after we got married in Montreal transferred to Toronto.

(15:39):
And when I got to Toronto a few years went by,
I still continued to do them by myself in Toronto,
a city that I really didn't know very well. And
then I did join the Toronto Ghosts and Hauntings Research
Society and I was there for about seven years as
the assistant director. And after that I formed my own

(16:01):
because people sort of north of Highway seven where we live,
they had really no resource, so I thought, well, you know,
may as well give them one.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
So that's the story behind it.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Yeah, the story behind it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And how haunted is the area where you live?

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Well, where we live, it's quite haunted. We have some
very important landmarks, for example, the cemetery where Stephen Leacock
is buried, as well as Maso de la roche Is
She's also buried there, and that's Saint George's churchyard. A
lot of stories about Saint George's churchyard we also have.

(16:43):
In Georgina, we have, of course the lakefront. We have
a lot of beaches, a lot of lakefront and as
you know, there are so many stories about not only
monsters in the lake, but also water spirits, elemental spirits,
ghostly boats and all kinds of things like that, and

(17:03):
of course UFOs above the water, so we have a
lot of stories up here about UFOs.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
So why do you think paranormal investigations and investigating the
claims of the paranormal is so important?

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, I really think that it's so important because so
many people do experience unexplained phenomena and they feel very
much alone when they experience them, and they feel kind
of crazy. I mean, they don't want to tell anybody,
but they do feel the need to share what they've
experienced because it does affect them emotionally and psychologically and

(17:42):
sometimes spiritually, So they feel that they need to say something,
and they do need people that listen and people that
can actually come out and help them to deal with it.
And in many cases, especially my particular team, we try
to well not not really eradicate the problem, but we

(18:06):
try to allow the person experiencing them to deal with it,
to maybe put it to rest in some way.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Now, are there different types of ghosts in your opinion
or is there one type of ghost? Is there one
type of haunting, or is each haunting and sighting of
an apporition unique in its very own right.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Well, I think that for sure. Each one is very unique.
And I do think that there are different types of
ghosts and spirits, whatever you want to call them. You've got,
you know, you've got things like residual hauntings. You've also
got active hauntings that you know you can communicate with,

(18:51):
and you also have you know, poltergeist types of hauntings.
You've got all kinds of what I like to call
rogue spirits, which are spirits that maybe have not even
become human or have been human ever, things that you
can bring in with them with divination tools such as
a Ouiji board, you know, things that you don't really

(19:13):
know how to control, because there's so much around us
that we're not really aware of, and so many people
are not really I guess, skilled enough to understand, and
there's so much that we don't understand. I mean, honestly,
I think, you know, until some spirit taps me on

(19:36):
the shoulder and says, hey, Linda, let me tell you
the nature of the universe. I mean, we're not going
to understand it. I'm not going to understand it, but
we can talk about it, and I think that's the
most interesting thing. But yeah, I think there's different types
of hauntings, different types of ghosts, for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Do you think that it's really necessary to investigate the
paranorm Is it really make a difference at the end
of the day, what we investigate, how we investigate, and
ultimately what we find out. How is it going to
change anything that we're actually, you know, experiencing right now.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
That's a good question. I think, you know, we're naturally
I think, curious as individuals, and we want to know why.
Certainly some people don't. I mean in my experience, I've
met people that have had things happen and they kind
of brush them under the rug because they feel, well,
what I don't know isn't going to hurt me. And

(20:31):
I get that for sure. But I think for the
most part, people who have these experiences they want to
know why because they're out of the ordinary. I mean
you talk about supernatural. I mean they are absolutely out
of the ordinary. So it's intriguing. So I think at
the end of the day, that's why we do it.
I don't know if it will make a difference. I

(20:54):
think year after year, the you know, investigative techniques of
the paranormal are different, and how people go about doing
what we do is different. But I don't know. I
just think that we have a natural affinity to know
why and to investigate, and people who have experiences they

(21:14):
want evidence, they want proof that they're not going crazy.
So I think that ultimately is probably why we all
do it.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Is it possible that we all do it because no
one wants to believe that once you die, that's it.
That ghost stories, hauntings actually give us hope that there
is much more to this existence.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Absolutely, I think that's absolutely true. I mean you'll see
people you know on TV, on the TV shows and
they'll say, oh, yeah, I don't believe any of this.
I'm the biggest skeptic ever. But I mean, there is
a lot of evidence out there that nobody can really
explain scientifically or otherwise.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
What kind of evidence.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well, you know, you we've gotten some strange things that
have happened to us. I've seen strange things that I
can't explain. I mean, I've had I've seen a full
body apparition. A lot of people in the fields have
never seen a full body apparition, and I actually had well,
I'm going to say the luck to see one. It

(22:23):
was a little scary. Not going to lie but it
was also very intriguing, and I wasn't the only one
to experience it at the time. So when you see
something like that, it really does change who you are.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Tell us about that.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
I had been called to this this lady's home in
Mount Albert, which again is on it's in Ontario. It's
a little bit east of New Market, and there's a
lot of old, old homes in the Mount Albert area.
And this was a long time ago, this was, oh

(23:01):
my gosh, early nineties. Anyway, Interestingly enough, this woman had
been seeing an elderly lady walking up and down the stairs,
and she and her husband had bought this home and
started renovating the home, and this is when, of course,
all of the experiences happened. So lights would go off

(23:21):
and on, but that didn't bother them as much as
them seeing this old lady walking up and down the
stairs and up in the hallway upstairs. So she called
me and heard of me through word of mouth. So
I assembled a little bit of a team to go
and check it out. So we camped out there all night, thinking, hopefully,

(23:45):
you know, we'll see something. Of course, we saw nothing.
We were there until you know, five o'clock in the morning,
we're there all night. We had a little video camera
and at the time, those were very expensive. They're not
like you know the ones you can buy on Amazon, youa.
So we had set that up and we had cameras
and we had all kinds of things. So I was
sitting at the base of the stairs with another girl

(24:08):
and five o'clock rolled around and we said, okay, this
is it. We're done. Nothing's happening, nothing at all. Let's
just pack it all up. So as soon as we
packed up all of our equipment, that's when things always happen,
and you'll talk to investigators who can certainly corroborate this.
All of a sudden it got incredibly cold, and this

(24:29):
girl and I kind of looked at each other and thought, well,
this is strange. The atmosphere is different in here. And
then sure enough, this woman was walking down the stairs
and she was an elderly lady. She was as solid
as anything, as solid as you and me, except for
the fact that she had no feet. She was gliding
down the stairs. Now, the front door was at the

(24:51):
bottom of the stairs, and literally she glided out of
the door, which was closed. So that was an interesting experience.
And what I did, which I'm glad I did. I
said to this girl, Okay, you saw something, right? She
said yes, and she was about to tell me what
she saw, and I said, no, write it down, and

(25:13):
I'll write down what I saw, and then we'll switch notebooks.
And absolutely she saw exactly what I saw. She was
a little more afraid than I was. I was really intrigued.
But the interesting thing was, as soon as she went
through this front door, the air was much warmer. So
it was freezing cold, and then like magic, it was

(25:34):
much warmer.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Would you consider that a residual haunting?

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I like to think that it was because she couldn't
you couldn't talk to her. She certainly wasn't an active haunting.
I think it was residual. She'd probably done this some
million times throughout her life and continued to do so.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Then, to stand by my friend, you and I have
to take our break for the bottom of the hour, Exnation.
Our guest this hour is Linda Carrino. She's with the
Georgina Paranormal Society. Their website is www dot Georgina Paranormal Society,
dot weepleed dot com. And Linda and I will be
back on the other side of this break as the
xone continues with yours truly, Rob McConnell from our broadcast

(26:17):
center and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada, and you're
listening to us on your hometown radio Classic twelfth twenty
streaming Classic twelfth twenty dot CA.

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Speaker 2 (28:04):
And welcome back every one. This is the Excellime Rob
McConnell Monday through Friday from ten pm Eastern until midnight
right here on your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty streaming
Classic twelve twenty dot CA from the Excellent Broadcast Network
Studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada, just down the road
from where our guest of this hour lives. Her name
is Linda Carrino and she's up in Keswick and she

(28:27):
is with the Georgia Paranormal Society. Their website is Georgina
Paranormal Society dot Weebley dot com. First of all, thanks
very much for joining us. This is very interesting. Are
you still there? Yeah? Okay, that's my pleasure. How many
members of the Georgina Paranormal Society are there?

Speaker 5 (28:49):
There are currently five of us and we're all ladies
and of different ages, different backgrounds, different talents, I'll say, talents.
That's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay. What has been the scariest, creepiest investigation that you
and the fine ladies of the Georgina Paranormal Society have
been on where you've nearly had the hair on the
back of your neck stand up, You've got the goosey
bumps coming down your arms and you're saying, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, we've had a couple of them. We had the
great pleasure of going to beautiful Picton, Ontario.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, that's beautiful down there.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Oh it's absolutely gorgeous. And there was and I don't
know if it's been demolished yet, but in Picton they
have a place called Prince Edward Heights which used to
be an army base and then it was a hospital,

(29:54):
and it was a hospital kind of well kind of
like oh gosh, for the shall we say they used
to call it the mentally Incapacitated.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh I thought that was Ottawa. Yeah right, Parliament.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
No, Well, you know there's that.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Another show another time, right, But this place.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Is really interesting and I think it operated well obviously
throughout the seventies and also the eighties. But when it
closed up, it became very derelict and was bought by
a paintball organization, so they were doing paintball things over there,
and it was just crazy. I mean, there are three

(30:41):
buildings and it's just just it's just incredible, but it's derelict.
They hold paranormal investigations there. They did, so a lot
of a lot of people actually went there, did investigations
and experience things that we can't explain. I mean, the

(31:04):
hair on the back of our neck was up on
more than one occasion. We were there at least three
times on different occasions, and one time we could not
even walk into one of the buildings. It was like this.
This force was something from Star Trek, you know, where
they put up that force field. It was like a

(31:27):
force field and it made both myself and my assistant
director Sherry, It made us physically ill. We couldn't even
walk into this particular building this particular night, so that
was a little daunting. I'd never had that happen to
me before at all. And on another occasion, we got

(31:50):
a lot of EVPs electronic voice phenomena and it was
pretty scary, you know, screams and size and all kinds
of crazy things, and of course a lot of orbs,
which most paranormal investigators will tell you don't exist. But
that's another story that we can do an entire show

(32:12):
on that one. But I think that was probably the scariest,
and I think it was because you could walk into
that location and you could feel the residual energy. But
there were a lot of active spirits still there, because
I do believe in that location because of what it was,

(32:33):
I think there were a lot of wandering souls that
probably didn't understand what had happened to them and were
remaining in that location. And as a matter of fact,
they're tearing it down to build a subdivision there, so
I wouldn't want to buy a house there.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Why do you think these ghosts, the spirits remain in
the same location all the time, especially if they're part
of the parent what do they call them parent tours? Now,
where everybody the ghost hunters and paranormal investigators keep going
to the same location, like the waiverlier, like this location,
why don't they right just go to the other side.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
You know, I think there are a lot of them
that I mean when you talk to because we've worked
with a lot of psychics psychic mediums, I believe that
a lot of them fear retribution on the other side.
And I also think that some of them are very
attached to the location and they they don't really want

(33:35):
to leave, and I think they see that location as
what it was when they were there. I don't think
that they understand that it's derelict and that they need
to move on to another you know, plane or level
of existence. I think that they just don't understand that
they need to move on, and they sometimes need a

(33:57):
little bit of help. But I do think that, you know,
there's an emotional attachment maybe to that particular area, and
you know, in the case of picton, because a lot
of them we're very you know, emotionally not available. I
think that they still wander around and they don't understand

(34:20):
that they need to leave. So there's so many different
reasons I think that they can they can stay. I
really do.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I hear the explanation that there's a lot of right,
they fear a retribution. Yeah, okay, if you believe in that,
it makes sense. But if you do not believe in
any religious philosophy that talks about retribution after death, right,
you know, so, what do you have a bunch of
religious ghosts hanging around?

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Right?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I know?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's strange, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
It's very strange. And that's one of the things that
are one of the challenges I think is a paranormal investigator.
You really have to especially when you're doing let's say,
you know, a haunting investigation in a residential area, You've
got to really understand the people that you're working with
what their religious persuasions are, if they have any, because

(35:16):
you know, their explanation is going to be different from
somebody who doesn't have that absolutely. So yeah, I mean,
we're never really going to know until we get there.
We're not really going to know.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah. I find it very confusing, and I'm sure that
other people out there may as well. But something that
we've discovered over the last couple of years is that
there's a lot of infighting between paranormal groups about who's
going to do what, where are they're going to do,
and what's evidence what's not evidence.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Yeah, that's that drives me crazy, honestly. There's this thing
that everybody aspires to called para unity, right, Yeah, And
whether or not that's ever going to exist is at
this point. I mean, who knows, who knows. I think
it would be great, but yeah, there's a lot of infighting.
You know, you're using the wrong equipment, you're using the

(36:10):
equipment poorly. You know, what are you doing your equipment heavy?
You're not equipment heavy. There's a lot of infighting. I
think we all have to try and figure out how
to get along.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Do you think that all this equipment is necessary?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Absolutely not. When I first started doing investigations, we didn't
have all of the bells and whistles, you know, we
didn't have digital anything. I think the first investigation that
I did, and by the way, it was in Hudson, Quebec,
the will in no It was a residential in Hudson,
beautiful old home and I went there by myself and

(36:50):
I always tell people, don't ever go by yourself. I
was a fledgling investigator and I had a pencil and
a pad of paper, and I had a camera with
a flash cube on the top, and that's all I had.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And what did you find in that location in Hudson.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
That was the first investigation I ever did. I was
eighteen years old, and I was really dumb going by myself.
You never do that. And it was interesting. This lady,
elderly lady, was telling me that things were moving in
her house and things were being thrown at her, and

(37:33):
she was afraid that she was going to be hurt.
And again it started happening. Once they started tearing walls
down and taking wallpaper off the walls. I find that,
you know, when that happens, things start to happen. But
what happened was I was interviewing her in her living
room and there was a fireplace in front of me,
beautiful fireplace with this gorgeous crystal ashtray on the fireplace mantle.

(37:58):
And in my head as she's talking to me, I
kept saying, yeah, right, I don't know, I don't know
if I believe her. I don't, I don't I really
don't think I believe her. And as soon as I
said that, in my head, the crystal I'm sorry about.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Do you think that that a lot of the paranormal
communication between a spirit and an investigator is on the
on the level of ESB.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
You know what, I do believe? So I think that
there are frequencies that you know, we don't understand that
can be picked up on right by whatever it is
out there. And certainly in that case it happened because
the crystal ashtray flew past my head and hit the
wall behind me.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Yeah, that was a little scary.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Have you ever been physically assaulted by a spirit? I mean,
besides having something thrown at you?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Luckily no, I have no, But I have had a
lot of clients who were physical scratches, bruises. One man
was scratched night after night for a month by something
that he couldn't see, but was very animalistic in nature,
and it disappeared as quickly as it arrived, and that

(39:19):
was pretty scary as well.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Standby, we've got to take our final break for this
hour exponation. I guess this hour is miss Linda Carrino,
and she's with a Georgia Paranormal Society. Their website is
Georgina Paranormal Society dot Weebley dot com. And we'll be
back as we wrap up this first hour of tonight's
show here in the X zone, and if you'd like
to give us a call, send us an email. The

(39:43):
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will be open starting next week. Sorry about that guy.
You know, this is all part of technology. Sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't, Sometimes you get the upgrades, and sometimes

(40:04):
well you're just so well sorry out of luck. We'll
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Speaker 2 (40:46):
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(41:34):
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(41:59):
just imagine world without the XON? Put your hand out, Craig,
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your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty streaming at Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. Linda Krean is our special guest. Karna
is our special Guestesh. She's with the Georgia Paranormal Society Georgina.

(42:23):
Why do I call it Georgia? Oh?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Everybody?

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Does?

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I trust you? How much money do you want? I
know you'll pay it back? Georgia Paranormal Society www dot
Georgina Paranormal Society dot weeblee dot com. First of all,
thanks very much for coming on the show. I love
your energy and I love what you do and you'll
always be a welcome guest here.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Oh, thank you. So much.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's so sweet. Oh, we're a sweet a bunch of
guys over here and galls. Here's a quick question for you. Yes,
a lot of paranormal show seem to be going from
ghost hauntings to demonic demonic possessions, demons. What's the deal

(43:10):
with that?

Speaker 5 (43:13):
You know, it's it makes for great TV. Let me
tell you, it really makes for great TV. People want
to see that, you know. It's this whole sensationalism thing.
I mean, and that's what we as paranormal investigators are
kind of coming up against now. People want to see stuff,
they want to experience stuff, they want They want the demonic,

(43:35):
you know, they don't want the traditional kind of haunting
where people walk out and see dimes and you know,
doves and cardinals, and they don't want that kind of stuff. No,
they want to get scratched, you know. They want to
see somebody who shall remain nameless on the television show
going hey dude, I just got scratched. I mean, they

(43:58):
want that stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
That's really what it's But don't they realize it's not real.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I don't think a lot of them understand that. I
think they love the sensationalism and they want to think
that it's all real. I mean, they don't seem to
understand too that, you know, do a public paranormal investigation
like around Halloween, most of us do that kind of thing.
They don't seem to understand that it's not it's not

(44:26):
a TV show that you're watching hours and hours and
hours of an investigation squeezed into a half an hour
or an hour show. And you know, you could sit
in a room as a paranormal investigator for hours and
hours and have nothing happen. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
It was just like being on the police force and
everybody expected you to solve the problem and the crime
within the hour like they did on CSI. Doesn't work
that way, You're right. It takes hours and hours and
hours and sometimes week and months and even years when
you're doing investigation. So how do you how do you

(45:05):
deal with that? Because I'm sure you must get asked
by people where you're going into do an investigation. Is
their house haunted? Is there any demonic presence there? Or
do they have to call it an extors system? How
do you rationalize with these people that there's real paranormal
like you and your group take care of and then
there's the reality TV Paranormal which comes on your local

(45:27):
TV station.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Yeah, it's it's always a bit of a challenge, but
I mean, I've been doing this for such a long
time that I've come up with all kinds of solutions
for people to kind of determine whether what they're experiencing
is a quote, real haunting or maybe something that may

(45:50):
not be real. It might be a figment of their imagination,
might be something that they've conjured up themselves. What we
do is we have a paranormal questionnaire. So we have
an intake questionnaire. So when people contact us and they say,
oh my god, these things are happening, we send them

(46:10):
a questionnaire and there are all kinds of questions on
that questionnaire that make them think, you know, when was
the last thing that happened, what exactly happened, what are
you experiencing. We asked them all kinds of questions, some
of them a little personal, and sometimes at the end
of this you know, eight page questionnaire, they can determine

(46:35):
for themselves by the answers to the questions that really
it's not anything that is paranormal at all. It's a
logical explanation. So we kind of weed them out.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Out of one hundred, let's say, out of one hundred
inquiries into somebody requesting you and your team to go
to their home or their residents or their business to
look at a paranormal problem, what would you say the
go to rate would be? And when I say go
to the number of the cases out of one hundred
that you would actually go.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
To, maybe twenty really are maybe twenty that are real
or that we can determine, you know that there's definitely
something going on. Yeah, but twenty.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
What percentage would you say was the manifestation of something
that the priority believes is paranormal, it is something that
they themselves are are manifesting or imagining.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Yeah, I'm going to say, you know, probably about sixty
percent of all of them. And I think it has
a lot to do with the fact that, especially now,
the paranormal has become so very popular, and we saw
an increase in it during you know, the lockdown. People
were thinking about it, people were home that were watching

(48:00):
more and more paranormal TV, and their imaginations really did
get the best of them. And I think they still
do to some degree. But there's so many different television
shows out there, and they're so different. I mean, you know,
and I tell people it's okay to watch them. I mean,
if you're interested in the paranormal, the best advice I

(48:21):
could possibly give somebody is to read it all, watch
it all, you know, the goods, bad, and the ugly,
because from all of them you learn something valuable.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
You really do. Many years ago, I was one of
the in fact, I was the executive the consultant to
the producers for the Canadian TV show Creepy Canada, and
the TV series was one of the It was in fact,
the very first Canadian paranormal TV show, and the producers
of Brian o'deay and the other executive producers were very

(48:54):
adamant about maintaining the authenticity and the credibility and the
history value to each and every episode.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
You know. Interestingly enough, on Creepy Canada, there was an
episode that featured a place here in Keswick called Saxes
Fish and Chips, and we actually it's still there. It's
not called Sax's Fish and Chips as a matter of fact,
it's up for sale now. But we actually had the
distinct honor of going in there and doing an overnight

(49:27):
investigation and I can safely say that indeed it is haunted. Yeah,
it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, creepy Canada. I was on the Discovery Channel, it
was on Travel Channel, it was on most of the
CTV network. Yeah, it was a great show. Love doing it.
Good it for seven show it. Let's see from I
did the first show. I think I was working with
him for four or five years. Great bunch to work with.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, curses are curse is real? Or are they self manifesting?

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Well, you know, that's a really interesting question because I've
seen both sides of that. I think that a curse
has as much power as you give it. And I
also have seen something on the other side of that
where somebody actually did find a bag filled with teeth
and hair and all kinds of things and it made

(50:31):
their life a living hell. So and I don't know,
you know, how that all came about. I'm still trying
to figure that out in my mind. But all of
these things happened prior to them actually finding this particular
bag of goodies, and once they got rid of it,
the good luck finally came into their lives. So try

(50:55):
to explain that. I still am working on.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
It, so coincidence s right, coincidence? Oh yeah, I think so?

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yeah, I think could be. Are there coincidences? Though most
people in this field will say, oh, there are no coincidences,
so that at all?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Isn't that the truth? We've got about a minute and
a half. What would you like to say to the
x O Nation tonight? If somebody is listening and they
want to become a paranormal investigator like you, what do
you suggest they do?

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Well? I think that they have to have an open mind,
and again they have to read, read, read, and watch watch,
watch and make notes and try and decide for yourself
why you're into this?

Speaker 4 (51:42):
What is you know?

Speaker 5 (51:44):
What is the aim? Do you want to help people?
And if so, I think that that's probably the paramount
reason why you should get into this, is to help
people deal with all of this nebulous stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I'm sure there are people listening tonight who are saying,
jeezs what I had an experience, But I don't want
to tell anybody because they're going to think that I'm
a little strange. What do you have to say to
them those people?

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Well, you know, you have to find a safe space
to share that information and paranormal investigators are a safe space.
We actually have public meetings at our local funeral home
and they're great because it's a safe space. Don't you
love that?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I bet you people are dying to go to those.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
They are, They absolutely are.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I guess your information's dead on it is it is.
I could go on all night like this. I like
that in the dead of the night. Right, Okay, listen.
As much as I'd love to keep going with you,
my dear friend, we must say so long for tonight.
Please come back again and visit us and examation or

(52:53):
I guess this hour has been Linda Carrino and she
is with the Georgina Paranormal Society w d WAW dot
or Gina Paranormal Society dot wee blee dot com. Linda,
thank you very much for coming to us tonight, and
the very best to you and the rest of your team.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Thank you, and likewise, it was so much fun.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Thank you so much, Linda. Explanation. I'll be back on
the other side of this break as we can. Let
me see you start our number two tonight. After all,
this is a place where people dare to believe and
dare to be heard. Monday through Friday, from ten pm
Eastern until midnight, and you're listening to us on your
hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty streaming Classic twelve twenty dot.

(53:34):
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