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O Nation is Lisa. Is Lisa milliar Aces and she
is a medium, author and founder of Extreme Communication. Lisa
is a psychic medium. She is also a king Master
and As a child, Lisa had many unexplained experiences that
went beyond imagination and coincidence. These occurrences were exciting, but
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left her searching for answers. In her teens, she developed
a connection to spirit, guidance, and an understanding that life
continues after death. Lisa's journey has been one of finding
the delicate balance between working in corporate America and providing
spiritual service while tending to the importance of family. Looking back,
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is her teacher, and her website is www. Dot two.
That's the number two communicate dot net and Lisa, Welcome.
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To the xone Oh thank you, thank you for having me, So.
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Tell me, Lisa, tell me more about your indoctrination into
the world of the paranormal and spirit.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
As a little girl, I didn't understand that was what
this was. I was experiencing what I thought was ESP
and it I had things happened to me as young
as the age of five, where I would see shadows
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or aluminous beings next to my bed, And as I
got a little older, maybe there was things that were
a little bit more like ESP, but yet they went
far beyond that. So it was an unfolding if you will,
not really understanding that I was actually connecting to those
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on the other side. It was a journey of the
younger years, which I explained in more depth in the
first book, being Light Driven Finding in our guidance.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So, as a medium, how do you communicate or how
do you connect with those on the other side.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
This is a symbolic energy language that we all have
access to, and I really believe there's an awareness to
this energy language. And if you notice, every single one
of us has instincts. If you trust that first instinct,
you probably would have avoided a lot of problems in
our life. If we think about it. But it's having
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that awareness to this energy, and then through meditation and
prayer practice, I have learned to elevate my energy level
to enhance that connection.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
All right, So let's say I come to you to
have you connect with the loved one of mine on
the other side. How do you find that specific loved one?
If we take the belief that you know that we
are not the only planet where that sustains life in
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this reality and this dimension, in this universe, how do
you focus in on that one person or that one soul.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I don't who does.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
How this works through me is I will I can't
guarantee who will come through and what they will say,
and I ask people not to tell me anything before
they even come to me. But I do say that
spirit here is your thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
So before you.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Come to me, you can speak to them directly, ask
them to come through. And if that specific loved one
doesn't come through, it doesn't mean they're in a bad place.
But nine times out of ten they do. And I
the energy that's around and what is meant to be
heard will be heard because there's a higher understanding than
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you I or the sitter has about what is necessary
to hear.
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We were discussing before we went to the commercial break
about connecting with others on the other side. But what
happens in the case where both the sitter and those
who are being sought on the other side believe in
reincarnation and at the time of the request of communication
that person has been reincarnated. What happens then?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
That's a wonderful question and actually one that I have
actually launched up and asked myself. And in the world
of spirit, it's much different than our world, and it's
not locked into physical form, so they can be anywhere
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at any time. And I like to kind of look
at it this way. Did you ever think thirty years
ago that we would be using the Internet the way
that we do today? That you have a cloud and
in that cloud you can put all your different pictures
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or different files and then they're accessible. All these different
tools here.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But yeah, yes, the cloud is a metaphor for a server.
It's not in the cloud, it's a in a bank.
It's in a bank. It's a bank of servers.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm thinking, is the universe or or the energy that
we're in it's not. It's not stuck in a physical form.
So that soul that's on the other side can possibly
be partly incarnated as well. It doesn't mean that you're separate.
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They're all part of the same thing. You're all connected
within the universal life force energy. So everyone is connected,
every soul is connected in that aspect of life.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
How do we know there is another side? How do
we know that this just isn't a fad?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
You know, Like I totally get that question.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, well, you know, there's there's no proof. There's no
scientific proof, there's.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
No I've had proof.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I had proof in my life.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's in your life. But how do you pass that
proof onto others who have not had that proof.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Well, I can't force anyone to have a belief system.
But what I can do is I can provide them
with an experience and through the experience allow them I
plant the seed of that thought of which I believe
and allow them to see if it applies to them.
I've had many naysayers come to my groups through the
sessions and they walk away thinking differently from what they've seen.
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So it's you know, it's up to you what you believe,
but I put it out there as you know, this
is what has happened to me. This is what I
can offer and allow you to make your own conscious thought.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Something that you said plant the seed of thought. That
implies that that they are actually receiving a a thought
from you, That this is not a thought that they've
developed from them by their own experience.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It's just a phrase that I use. I didn't imply
anything from it. It's just really just the way that
I look at it. As you know, you you're providing
something that can nurture and grow and unfold on their
own time. It's not up to me to say, here
it is, this is what it is. You will do that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So how do we know that everyone has a spirit guide?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Then well, it's a guidance that's within you, and they're
not going to show themselves to you unless you ask
for it. So you can ask for assistance. Now, think
of it this way. If the school I believe that
the earth is like a university for our soul growth,
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and think of your spirit guide as a guidance counselor
while you're here in this university of school, and they
are there to assist you and guide you, but not
to interfere. So if you want to know who your
spirit guide is, quiet your mind, Bryan, do a little
practice and ask for it. Ask for a sign. And
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you know, a lot of people get hung up because
they say, I want to have a name. I really
don't think it's necessary to have a name, because the
name is like a label of something that we provide
in our language, but more or less a vibration. And
keep in mind that you have. What I've been told,
what I've done through the years of my knowledge, is
that we have one spirit guide that's connected from the
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time we enter this lifetime to the time we transition. However,
there's others that will come and go along this lifetime
journey upon our requests of learning different things, So they're
there for you.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
If we have all this guidance, and if there is
a spiritual asset to our aspect to our existence, what's
the meaning of life.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
To learn for your soul growth? Is my opinion of that.
I mean, I can't tell everyone else what their intention is,
but from what I've learned, it's all about the soul growth.
And a lot of times experiences that we have that
have caused us drama or anxiety or difficulty, if you
look at them from the higher perspective, there's a silver
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lining that has allowed growth, compassion and love, and I
believe it's all about that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
On a broader perspective, O caase so our soul grows, then.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
What, well, I haven't I am not one hundred percent
sure what is next if that's what you're asking me,
because I can only speak to what I have learned
over these years. Part of things that I've studied that
have applied to me that I would say, yes, that
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looks true, because if you think about it, you can
read as much as you want, or you can listen
to me as much as you want, but if it
doesn't resonate with you, you're not going to You should
just let it pass by. But either there may have
been many books on after death communication or those who
are near dying or those who who are in hospice care,
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and there seems to be a simil smilarity with all
of these different instances, and I would call that a truth,
the seeing of the white light. You know, do you
have all these different things that are similar or from
different authors, different experiences. And I'm sure in your journey
talking to all the people that you do, you've seen
some similarities.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I've seen similarities, I've seen dissimilarities. I have developed more
questions than I have received answers. And that's over twenty
six years. Four guests, four guests a night, five nights
a week.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It is it is, And there's doesn't seem to be
a lot of consistency in amongst and amongst the people,
except for the fact that you know, free will, spiritual growth,
and there are different variations of what happens to us
when we die, where we go? Is it heaven? Is
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it hell? Is it another dimension? Is it another universe?
Is reincarnation real? Is it not real? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I can give you some experiences that I've had. I
know that to know that prayer is heard, because I
think that is really If you were to ask me,
what is the main thing you'd want to share with
someone who's going through greef, and it would be to
know that your prayers are heard and that your loved
ones are still there with you. So I was in
my early twenties just getting new to adapting to this concept.
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And I had a very good friend of mine that
I knew when I was growing up. She was like
a second mother to me. I'm going to give her
her first name with June. And as I moved away
from home, I became very friendly with another lady that
we're going to call Barbara, who kind of took me
under her wing, and we were traveling back and forth
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to Philly to work. So one day I'm in my
living room and I see a soul that floats above
the ceiling and looks familiar to me. And I wasn't
sure one hundred percent who it was, but it looked
very familiar. I couldn't see. Then I get the phone
call that June passed away. So June passes away, and
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she waved to me, and I honored that and respected that.
Now I'm going to fast forward sometime. My friend Barbara,
who didn't know June at all, turns ill she has
a reapout of breast cancer, and I'm going to fast
forward a long time. She's in the hospital and she's
near her end stage. Now, Barbara's afraid, she's afraid of dying.
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I wanted to go visit her the next day in
the hospital, but I don't like hospitals and I have
a fear around seeing people who are ill. So as
i'm knight and I'm praying, I'm not praying that she's
going to get well, because I know that she's not,
and I know that she's afraid. And my friend June
was a strong, loving woman, and I prayed to June
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to go help her, to go help her to transition
and not be afraid. So the next and then I
closed my eyes and I saw an image of someone
who was ill, and they had the skeletal hands and
a pointy nose, and it kind of prepared me for
what I was gonna see the next day. So I
didn't act poorly. So I went to the hospital the
next day and there's Barbara, and her husband's there, and
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her daughter's there, and she's in the bed and she
sits up. She turns and she looks at me and
she says, June is here. Well about fell off my chair,
And right after, you know, I knew my prayers were hurt.
Epis the first time I really knew my prayers were hurt.
And I went down to have coffee with the husband
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and the daughter and I said, does she know.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Anyone named June?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Do you know anyone named June? And they said no,
And I told them what happened, and the husband goes, oh, well,
she's one a lot of morphine, you know. Don't worry
about that. But to me, that was a very good
validation to me that our prayers are hurt. So that
was one of the very first impactful ones to me.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Could that have just been a coincidence.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I don't think so, No, because that's just one of
many things that have happened to me. But it was
a very impactful one to me.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But isn't it fair to say that those who believe
will take what they hear or what they perceive and
use it as a validation.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Well, I guess that's possible, And that could be because
a lot of people say, oh, I see a feather
and it's a sign, or I see it exacty and
it's a sign. But think about this for a second.
Spirit hears your thoughts in your prayers, and they do
want to connect you and they do try many, many times,
so they may make it easier to find that feather
or to find that thing because they can do that.
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They do interact with us because they are energy, so
energy can turn a light on, they can move certain objects.
They can work with nature to show you a bird.
I mean, they can do these things. So the fact
that they hear your thoughts in prayers and they know
that that'll be a sign for you, they may put
that in front of you more often than not.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But on the other hand, it could just be coincidence that,
you know, seeing a feather is nothing out of the unusual,
seeing a penny is nothing out of the unusual.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I can't deny that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, you know. So, so if somebody was to give
me an example, that cannot be any that could be
not denied as a coincidence. Well hold on, let me
finish talking before you start cutting me off. Yeah, you know.
It's it's strange that once again, people who want to
believe will take any bit of of coincidence, synchronicity, or
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evidence and they will use it just like any other
any other person who has their own belief structure, whether
it's Catholicism, whether it's Christianity, whether it's Buddhism, whether it's it's.
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Speaker 3 (21:47):
Please let me ask you where does religion stop and
spiritualism start.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Oh, that's a very tough question, Actually, I don't. I
think religion is it's a way of I think people
initially had it for fear based thoughts to try and
control others. I think spirituality is something that's natural, that's
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within all of us. I think religion is something that
you're learned, that you're taught more of a.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Tradition, all right, And you need to be taught about
spirituality as well, because not every knowing that I am
aware of is born with the insight. That so many
now profess to be spiritualists.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Well, in my experience it had come to me on
my own. I was brought up Jewish as traditional traditionally,
and I do think that may have been a basis
for some of my thought process and the prayers that
I may have used to assist me along the way.
But what I've acquired through guidance of spirit and has
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been more in line with a universal love. And I
find that that's similar and common in many of the religions.
But I don't study the religions, so I really couldn't
answer that totally.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right, the people who come to you for your for
your guidance and your and your expertise and your your
ability to connect with those on the other side, how
does their experience with you change their religious beliefs?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Well, I can't answer how it has changed them because
I don't always know, I don't always have that contact
with them. But what I can say there have been
a few people that may have been afraid to connect
with me because of their Catholic upbringing, thinking that it
wasn't something that was of the highest good, And after
they have come they realized that it was pretty impactful
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and spiritual and full of love. So that's what I
can explain to you what I have experienced. I've had
others come to me and say it's given them great
comfort and makes them feel closer to God universal life force.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
After somebody passes away, how long should their grieving family
wait before they try to communicate with them?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Well, it's not The problem isn't with the person on
the other side. And I should say that's an individual
aspect because some when they transition, they may have transitioned
from illness or they may have had an accident, and
some take a little bit longer to adapt than others.
But I've had some that have come through like right
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away and others like within six months time. But I
find more importantly that the client needs to be ready.
They need to go through their morning process so that
they can actually hear what Spirit has to say.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
To them and what is the basic the basic reason
that they will that they want to connect with the spirit.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Many times it's to know that they're okay, to know
that they're around, to get that comfort level, to know
that you don't just die, that there is something else
out there. Many times they'll come through the validations of
seeing other babies that were born after their death, or
they give a lot of validations of things that have
happened that they wouldn't have known or I wouldn't have known,
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and it makes them feel very comfortable knowing that they're
still alongside of them in their journey and that they'll
see them again. What happens, it's their time.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
But once again, what happens if this is all smoke
and mirrors? And I'm not saying that that to believe
in something is wrong, but I'm just saying what happens
if we lead people down a garden path that in
believing in something that isn't real.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Well, I caveat my sessions that this is for the
experience and it's up to the individual what they believe,
as in anything else, but they do have the validations
that come through to make their own judgment with that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But how do you know? Once again, validation is like
like past life regression. The person will believe what they
want to believe, and a lot of people who in it,
and a lot of people and a lot of people
in the time of need and when they're desperate, will
take any square and they can fit it into a
round hole.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Well, there's been some validations where there have been recorders
that speak when they're in a record moved, and there's
been other validations where spirit comes through. Talking about that
tattoo of a sparrow that was on someone's foot that
I couldn't see that they had just gotten there. I
mean the validation they're pretty impactful. Or I'll go workshop shopping,
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meaning that I go shopping for a gift for a
person from workshop for the purpose of giving them out.
So I shop with spirit. I picked up several items
and then before going I decide through my meditation what
I'm supposed to bring with me. And those items can
be very, very telling for somebody. You know, they have
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a lot of meaning for them, things that I couldn't know.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Is it possible that the information you're getting is through
something as simple as extrasensory perception, that you're picking up
the thought of when I was.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
A little girl, I would have thought that, But there's
been too many things that have happened since then, communications
with my grandfather, you know, too many things that have
happened for me to say that I would say no
to that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Have you ever been subjected to a polygraph test to
during a reading to see if there's any devian any children?
Do children come to you as well? And how do
you deal with a child?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
When you say children come to me, you mean children in.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Physical form or in spirits and physical well.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
A lot of times if children will come because they're
having experiences like I did, they typically come to me
with their parents. Okay, so I want to make sure
that I have parental consent and the parent is there.
If they're underage, and I let them talk to me
and tell me what they're experiencing, I want them to
if you're talking about counseling session to help them be aware.
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That's how I would handle it, and then listen to them,
because it's important to listen to the children and let
them have faith instead of fear, to embrace this and
learn some tools to give themselves some confidence to help
them learn their their own language. But if someone comes
to me in a reading, it's handled the same way
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as anyone else. I do tell parents make sure that
they're able to understand the content beforehand, and make sure
that they're with them.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Interesting, do you think that the veil between this side
and the other side is getting thinner?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
And if so, why, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But what I can tell you is that I have
noticed that there's been more and more people on board
with the subject. I came out of a closet. I
want to say, like fifteen years ago, and it just
seemed like at that time that it was starting to
come out. But when I was twenty or thirty years ago,
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it was something you didn't talk about. So I think
the fact that more and more people are becoming aware
of it may make it that concept that the veil
is thinner.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
How does your immediate family, I mean, like your husband
or your children deal with the fact that you communicate
with others on the other side.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Well, at this point in time, they're okay, they're on
board with it. But it has been a journey in
my life in the in the very beginning years of
the unfolding, my children have always done great, and my
husband kind of looks at me a little funny, but
then he's been okay with it after a while.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
What has been the strangest is it?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know, he sees what happens.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What has been the strangest thing about has happened to
you as a as a reader and a spiritualist, Your
most extraordinary, extraordinary experience that you've had.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, for myself or with my clients, let's go with
you first.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Well, I was expecting my first grandchild and I saw
this image of a baby before I even knew I
was having this grandchild, and the baby it was a
little bit grown and it yelled at me and had
curly haired andess, it's my life. And it was very
very you know, vivacious. Well, the human part of me
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got very nervous, thinking, oh god, there's nothing wrong, you know,
that analytical part. And after the baby was born, she
looked just like that image and her personality was just
like that, it's my life. So that was kind of
bizarre for me in the beginning to wrap my eyes
arms around that. And with each grandchild, I have had
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a visitation before they were born, so it's been but
not like that one more subtle, but that child has
a very you know, great personality. So it would go
to they come through with their personalities.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And how about for your clients.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Well, I had a client that came to me. It
was sad for her. She had lost her only child,
and she came with another another a friend with her.
They both had voice recorders on the I had both
of them on the table and her child was coming
through telling her that she needs to believe these validations
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because she had been going to other mediums as well,
you know, so I guess she's been looking and searching
and seeking. So in the communication, they were saying, you
really need to believe what you're hearing. You got this validation,
this validation in the other and then the voice recorder said,
as it's in record mode, message received, and then it
recorded that. So I thought that was kind of bizarre
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to happen. And it was a great validation and a
great message.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So I don't understand when you say the recorder showed
message received.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Explained, Well, it didn't chase.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
It said it in a a in an electronic voice.
Now you know yourself if you have a voice recorder
and you put it in record mode, first of all,
it doesn't say anything unless you hit play true. So
it had it had a voice that said message received,
a computerized voice, and then it recorded it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Okay, I'm still having a bit of trouble.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
But.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It saying that message. It was in a position to.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Record, so it recorded the entire message. Yeah, okay. And
was it an analog or digital recorder?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Oh, you're asking me technical questions? A little sonny voice recorder?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
All right? So did it have a little cast in it?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
No, okay, So that's a digital all right? Now I
understand you've also authored a few books. Yes, so tell
me about being light driven Finding inner guidance.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Well, being light driven Finding in our Guidance was starting
out to be a journal for my children about impactful
things that happened in my life, and it turned out
to be a book that I like to share with
others who are having also experiences because it's all about
those early years and being aware that I am a medium.
(33:52):
And it also helps people understand that there's no such
thing as death and gives them a little bit of
tips to meditate go within so that they can have
their own inner guidance. And then the other book, Spiritual Guidance,
Trusting the Voice Within. If you fast forward a few years,
I was doing workshops and I co authored this with
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doctor Kimberly Friedman, and we both had family corporate jobs
and did the spiritual workshop.
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as a medium. And you know, is there something else
that you can help people with besides communicating with those
that they have lost and are on the other side.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yes, I help people to become aware of their own
inner voice, their own connection, of understanding the symbolic energy
language that connects us all. Because many energy sensitive people,
maybe they're doing reiki, maybe they have an art project,
they're doing their artists or their musicians and they feel
(36:49):
a little disconnected. You know, energy is contagious, So if
you walk into a room and people have been fighting,
you kind of sense that wickness. That's a form of
energy that if you don't learn to protect your energy fields,
you can collect those things kind of like people get
(37:09):
a cold, you get that collective feeling. You don't keep
your ora clean, you end up feeling tired or you know,
and you know you're not tired, you had enough rest,
you know, or you start to feel uncomfortable. There's different
methods that I can assist people with in helping themselves
keep their energy clean, being more connected.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I've gotten to many psychic farris where there's been mediums
and psychics and so on. How can someone tell who's listening,
who a credible medium is and who isn't a credible medium?
What are some of the red flags?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Well, I am not sure how to tell how other
people are. I think one question, one way maybe is
if they ask you questions. I would rather not have
anybody tell me anything beforehand. And there's a view of
a lazy medium would be oh do you have this
(38:09):
or do you have that, as opposed to saying what
you're seeing, feeling, and hearing. Now, I do ask my
clients to say, yes, I understand, I know I don't understand,
but I don't want them to feed me information.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
What would you say that may be a good way.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, how about any other or any other hints that
you can help our listeners with.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Well, I've never I don't look at people as far
as if they were skeptical or you know, as if
they were a fake or not. But I think I
follow my intuition and if it feels right and you
don't get that feeling in your stomachiche, maybe I shouldn't
because you're in our guidance. If you get connected to
that will point you in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Can anyone become a medium?
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I think everyone is psychic. I think everyone can enhance
that ability to make that connection, and everyone can have
an after death communication. Whether or not they'd do it
to the level and public that I do it, I'm
not sure, but I think they can enhance what they
have to have their connections.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
What was it that that helped you to decide to
go public?
Speaker 5 (39:17):
I was meditating and I was told that I could
either help a few or help many, and At that time,
I was really scared. It wasn't popular. I was afraid
of the effects that would have on my family, and
I would only do this for close friends and family.
But I decided to take that second route and help others,
and it just so happened synchronistically. I was in another
(39:40):
medium's workshop and someone in the back of the room
heard my family talking to me that what I was doing,
and then afterwards she asked me to read her and
I ended up reading her in the back of the
room when we were all done, when it was all
closed up, And that was the first time I came
out in that aspect, and then from there it got
(40:00):
larger and larger.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
What does a person learn in a medium workshop, Well.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
There's many things that they learn because it's you know,
they're watching the group sessions, is what I'm talking about.
There's other workshops where I teach, but in a group
session where it's a channeling session, people will see other
people receive in the interact and in that setting, whether
they were maybe afraid to get a direct relationship or
(40:30):
they're seeing it and they're getting the understanding that our
loved ones continue. They're also sharing information maybe from a
person they don't know, or a person they do know
a message that would be specific for both of them,
and it is. It's a wonderful feeling afterwards.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
What do those on the other side tell you about
the afterlife? What is the afterli like life like?
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Well, I can only tell you what I have had
in my experience, and there's peace and love there. And
though those on the other side that I connect with
with clients, they have healings too, and they like it
when you pray for them because it helps them as
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much as it helps the people that are here. I
get a feeling of peace and grace and that they're
satisfied and that they're happy. But there's different levels of
positive in the afterlife, just as there are different levels
of people here and in this world. I don't know
(41:36):
if I'm articulating that or explaining that correctly, but it's
it's sometimes it's hard to articulate a vibration of energy
that you're understanding into our language, so everyone understands it.
But it's there's levels of goodness, not they. I don't
think there's a hell in a heaven. I think there's
all levels of good are a little little murkier than others.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Gotcha. If there's no heaven or if there's no hell
and there is just the afterlife, why is prayer so important?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Prayer?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
It's my opinion, is my opinion only. Prayer is a
focused thought with emotion and the highest level of vibration
is one of love that I've learned. The lowest vibration
that I've learned is fear. And if you think about it,
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almost all negativity comes from a place of fear. So
if you look at your emotions of how they interact
with you on a regular basis, you can kind of
use your thoughts to get a better vibration to project
the universe to co create with your life. Now, a
(42:52):
prayer is a focused thought. I like math holidays when
people all over the world like Christmas, for example, they
are trying to gather with a focused thought and a prayer.
I think that's very high vibrational energy for everybody.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Tell me, have you ever had an encounter with a
Ouiji board? And if so, what is your opinion.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
I don't like them. They're not a boy and they're
not a game. When I was very younger, when I
was very young, a little girl, I did and it
would move quite wildly. But as I got older, I
realized that that's a way of opening up without grounding
and protecting your energy. So I don't think that you
(43:39):
should view that as a game. I think it's a
good practice to ground yourself, to protect yourself with so
that only that which is of your highest good will
be in your experience. Law of attraction like attracts like,
So you want to make sure that you're not opening
yourself up to anything fearful.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well, couldn't we say the same about a pendulum, about dowsing,
about crystals, it's a matter of perception and a matter
of use.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
Well, I suppose to some level you can. But people
view a Wiji board as a game. They don't look
at crystals as a game. So they're out in the
stores or you know, as a game, and I don't think,
and they're very widespread. I just don't. In my opinion,
I wouldn't want my children and grandchildren playing with them.
Yet I love crystals, and I think they can play
(44:29):
with them all they want.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
I had an interesting talk with someone who was a
numerologist and still is, and they were saying, what's the
difference between playing it with a Ouiji board and going
and putting numbers in for the lottery, because what you're
doing is you're still using some sort of divination to
try and accomplish something.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Well, in my opinion, that's different. And the reason is
that you're opening yourself out without grounding yourself first. That's
my only reason I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
So how should somebody ground themselves?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Well, everyone has a little bit of a different practice.
In my practice, I have my feet on my floor.
I use imagery, prayer, and I imagine that I have
the white light around me. I use what I believe
in with archangel Michael. But whatever it is that they
believe in as a high good, as a good vibration,
whether it be God, whether it be your grandfather, whoever
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it is, being there to protect you. Because it's a
matter of vibration, imagery altogether. You can imagine your feet
grounding into the floor using mother Nature. So it's just
a practice to develop a practice.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
And I would imagine that your intent on what you
intend on doing once you're grounded has a lot to
do with it.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
Absolutely, the intention is ninety nine percent of everything. It's
not so much what it is that you're doing, whether
you're burning the stage to clear the energy, but it's
the intention behind it. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
We've got about a minute and a half left. What
are your final thoughts for the x ownation tonight.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
I'm grateful for being here and I want to thank
you for inviting me to have this conversation. It was
quite an interesting one. It shows different aspects and I
hope that people will have their own experience and make.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Their own judgments and let our listeners know how they
can contact you.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
Please feel free to contact me at my website www,
the number two communicate dot net and you can email
me at Lisa at the number two communicate dot net.
I look forward to hearing from.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
All of you, and thank you so much for joining
us tonight. Lisa. I asked her some hard questions and
got good answers. That's what I appreciate. Somebody who doesn't
back down, doesn't snow job. But like she says, it's
a matter of belief and as we've said many times,
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O Nation is Lisa. Is Lisa milliar Aces and she
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is a psychic medium. She is also a king Master
and As a child, Lisa had many unexplained experiences that
went beyond imagination and coincidence. These occurrences were exciting, but
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left her searching for answers. In her teens, she developed
a connection to spirit, guidance, and an understanding that life
continues after death. Lisa's journey has been one of finding
the delicate balance between working in corporate America and providing
spiritual service while tending to the importance of family. Looking back,
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is her teacher, and her website is www. Dot two.
That's the number two communicate dot net and Lisa, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
To the xone Oh thank you, thank you for having me, So.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Tell me, Lisa, tell me more about your indoctrination into
the world of the paranormal and spirit.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
As a little girl, I didn't understand that was what
this was. I was experiencing what I thought was ESP
and it I had things happened to me as young
as the age of five, where I would see shadows
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or aluminous beings next to my bed, And as I
got a little older, maybe there was things that were
a little bit more like ESP, but yet they went
far beyond that. So it was an unfolding if you will,
not really understanding that I was actually connecting to those
(04:02):
on the other side. It was a journey of the
younger years, which I explained in more depth in the
first book, being Light Driven Finding in our guidance.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So, as a medium, how do you communicate or how
do you connect with those on the other side.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
This is a symbolic energy language that we all have
access to, and I really believe there's an awareness to
this energy language. And if you notice, every single one
of us has instincts. If you trust that first instinct,
you probably would have avoided a lot of problems in
our life. If we think about it. But it's having
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that awareness to this energy, and then through meditation and
prayer practice, I have learned to elevate my energy level
to enhance that connection.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
All right, So let's say I come to you to
have you connect with the loved one of mine on
the other side. How do you find that specific loved one?
If we take the belief that you know that we
are not the only planet where that sustains life in
(05:18):
this reality and this dimension, in this universe, how do
you focus in on that one person or that one soul.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I don't who does.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
How this works through me is I will I can't
guarantee who will come through and what they will say,
and I ask people not to tell me anything before
they even come to me. But I do say that
spirit here is your thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
So before you.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Come to me, you can speak to them directly, ask
them to come through. And if that specific loved one
doesn't come through, it doesn't mean they're in a bad place.
But nine times out of ten they do. And I
the energy that's around and what is meant to be
heard will be heard because there's a higher understanding than
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you I or the sitter has about what is necessary
to hear.
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We were discussing before we went to the commercial break
about connecting with others on the other side. But what
happens in the case where both the sitter and those
who are being sought on the other side believe in
reincarnation and at the time of the request of communication
that person has been reincarnated. What happens then?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
That's a wonderful question and actually one that I have
actually launched up and asked myself. And in the world
of spirit, it's much different than our world, and it's
not locked into physical form, so they can be anywhere
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at any time. And I like to kind of look
at it this way. Did you ever think thirty years
ago that we would be using the Internet the way
that we do today? That you have a cloud and
in that cloud you can put all your different pictures
(09:26):
or different files and then they're accessible. All these different
tools here.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But yeah, yes, the cloud is a metaphor for a server.
It's not in the cloud, it's a in a bank.
It's in a bank. It's a bank of servers.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm thinking, is the universe or or the energy that
we're in it's not. It's not stuck in a physical form.
So that soul that's on the other side can possibly
be partly incarnated as well. It doesn't mean that you're separate.
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They're all part of the same thing. You're all connected
within the universal life force energy. So everyone is connected,
every soul is connected in that aspect of life.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
How do we know there is another side? How do
we know that this just isn't a fad?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
You know, Like I totally get that question.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, well, you know, there's there's no proof. There's no
scientific proof, there's.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
No I've had proof.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I had proof in my life.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's in your life. But how do you pass that
proof onto others who have not had that proof.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Well, I can't force anyone to have a belief system.
But what I can do is I can provide them
with an experience and through the experience allow them I
plant the seed of that thought of which I believe
and allow them to see if it applies to them.
I've had many naysayers come to my groups through the
sessions and they walk away thinking differently from what they've seen.
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So it's you know, it's up to you what you believe,
but I put it out there as you know, this
is what has happened to me. This is what I
can offer and allow you to make your own conscious thought.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Something that you said plant the seed of thought. That
implies that that they are actually receiving a a thought
from you, That this is not a thought that they've
developed from them by their own experience.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It's just a phrase that I use. I didn't imply
anything from it. It's just really just the way that
I look at it. As you know, you you're providing
something that can nurture and grow and unfold on their
own time. It's not up to me to say, here
it is, this is what it is. You will do that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So how do we know that everyone has a spirit guide?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Then well, it's a guidance that's within you, and they're
not going to show themselves to you unless you ask
for it. So you can ask for assistance. Now, think
of it this way. If the school I believe that
the earth is like a university for our soul growth,
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and think of your spirit guide as a guidance counselor
while you're here in this university of school, and they
are there to assist you and guide you, but not
to interfere. So if you want to know who your
spirit guide is, quiet your mind, Bryan, do a little
practice and ask for it. Ask for a sign. And
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you know, a lot of people get hung up because
they say, I want to have a name. I really
don't think it's necessary to have a name, because the
name is like a label of something that we provide
in our language, but more or less a vibration. And
keep in mind that you have. What I've been told,
what I've done through the years of my knowledge, is
that we have one spirit guide that's connected from the
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time we enter this lifetime to the time we transition. However,
there's others that will come and go along this lifetime
journey upon our requests of learning different things, So they're
there for you.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
If we have all this guidance, and if there is
a spiritual asset to our aspect to our existence, what's
the meaning of life.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
To learn for your soul growth? Is my opinion of that.
I mean, I can't tell everyone else what their intention is,
but from what I've learned, it's all about the soul growth.
And a lot of times experiences that we have that
have caused us drama or anxiety or difficulty, if you
look at them from the higher perspective, there's a silver
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lining that has allowed growth, compassion and love, and I
believe it's all about that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
On a broader perspective, O caase so our soul grows, then.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
What, well, I haven't I am not one hundred percent
sure what is next if that's what you're asking me,
because I can only speak to what I have learned
over these years. Part of things that I've studied that
have applied to me that I would say, yes, that
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looks true, because if you think about it, you can
read as much as you want, or you can listen
to me as much as you want, but if it
doesn't resonate with you, you're not going to You should
just let it pass by. But either there may have
been many books on after death communication or those who
are near dying or those who who are in hospice care,
(14:58):
and there seems to be a simil smilarity with all
of these different instances, and I would call that a truth,
the seeing of the white light. You know, do you
have all these different things that are similar or from
different authors, different experiences. And I'm sure in your journey
talking to all the people that you do, you've seen
some similarities.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I've seen similarities, I've seen dissimilarities. I have developed more
questions than I have received answers. And that's over twenty
six years. Four guests, four guests a night, five nights
a week.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It is it is, And there's doesn't seem to be
a lot of consistency in amongst and amongst the people,
except for the fact that you know, free will, spiritual growth,
and there are different variations of what happens to us
when we die, where we go? Is it heaven? Is
(15:54):
it hell? Is it another dimension? Is it another universe?
Is reincarnation real? Is it not real? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I can give you some experiences that I've had. I
know that to know that prayer is heard, because I
think that is really If you were to ask me,
what is the main thing you'd want to share with
someone who's going through greef, and it would be to
know that your prayers are heard and that your loved
ones are still there with you. So I was in
my early twenties just getting new to adapting to this concept.
(16:26):
And I had a very good friend of mine that
I knew when I was growing up. She was like
a second mother to me. I'm going to give her
her first name with June. And as I moved away
from home, I became very friendly with another lady that
we're going to call Barbara, who kind of took me
under her wing, and we were traveling back and forth
(16:47):
to Philly to work. So one day I'm in my
living room and I see a soul that floats above
the ceiling and looks familiar to me. And I wasn't
sure one hundred percent who it was, but it looked
very familiar. I couldn't see. Then I get the phone
call that June passed away. So June passes away, and
(17:11):
she waved to me, and I honored that and respected that.
Now I'm going to fast forward sometime. My friend Barbara,
who didn't know June at all, turns ill she has
a reapout of breast cancer, and I'm going to fast
forward a long time. She's in the hospital and she's
near her end stage. Now, Barbara's afraid, she's afraid of dying.
(17:33):
I wanted to go visit her the next day in
the hospital, but I don't like hospitals and I have
a fear around seeing people who are ill. So as
i'm knight and I'm praying, I'm not praying that she's
going to get well, because I know that she's not,
and I know that she's afraid. And my friend June
was a strong, loving woman, and I prayed to June
(17:55):
to go help her, to go help her to transition
and not be afraid. So the next and then I
closed my eyes and I saw an image of someone
who was ill, and they had the skeletal hands and
a pointy nose, and it kind of prepared me for
what I was gonna see the next day. So I
didn't act poorly. So I went to the hospital the
next day and there's Barbara, and her husband's there, and
(18:16):
her daughter's there, and she's in the bed and she
sits up. She turns and she looks at me and
she says, June is here. Well about fell off my chair,
And right after, you know, I knew my prayers were hurt.
Epis the first time I really knew my prayers were hurt.
And I went down to have coffee with the husband
(18:36):
and the daughter and I said, does she know.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Anyone named June?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Do you know anyone named June? And they said no,
And I told them what happened, and the husband goes, oh, well,
she's one a lot of morphine, you know. Don't worry
about that. But to me, that was a very good
validation to me that our prayers are hurt. So that
was one of the very first impactful ones to me.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Could that have just been a coincidence.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I don't think so, No, because that's just one of
many things that have happened to me. But it was
a very impactful one to me.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But isn't it fair to say that those who believe
will take what they hear or what they perceive and
use it as a validation.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Well, I guess that's possible, And that could be because
a lot of people say, oh, I see a feather
and it's a sign, or I see it exacty and
it's a sign. But think about this for a second.
Spirit hears your thoughts in your prayers, and they do
want to connect you and they do try many, many times,
so they may make it easier to find that feather
or to find that thing because they can do that.
(19:41):
They do interact with us because they are energy, so
energy can turn a light on, they can move certain objects.
They can work with nature to show you a bird.
I mean, they can do these things. So the fact
that they hear your thoughts in prayers and they know
that that'll be a sign for you, they may put
that in front of you more often than not.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But on the other hand, it could just be coincidence that,
you know, seeing a feather is nothing out of the unusual,
seeing a penny is nothing out of the unusual.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I can't deny that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, you know. So, so if somebody was to give
me an example, that cannot be any that could be
not denied as a coincidence. Well hold on, let me
finish talking before you start cutting me off. Yeah, you know.
It's it's strange that once again, people who want to
believe will take any bit of of coincidence, synchronicity, or
(20:39):
evidence and they will use it just like any other
any other person who has their own belief structure, whether
it's Catholicism, whether it's Christianity, whether it's Buddhism, whether it's it's.
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Speaker 3 (21:47):
Please let me ask you where does religion stop and
spiritualism start.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Oh, that's a very tough question, Actually, I don't. I
think religion is it's a way of I think people
initially had it for fear based thoughts to try and
control others. I think spirituality is something that's natural, that's
(22:17):
within all of us. I think religion is something that
you're learned, that you're taught more of a.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Tradition, all right, And you need to be taught about
spirituality as well, because not every knowing that I am
aware of is born with the insight. That so many
now profess to be spiritualists.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Well, in my experience it had come to me on
my own. I was brought up Jewish as traditional traditionally,
and I do think that may have been a basis
for some of my thought process and the prayers that
I may have used to assist me along the way.
But what I've acquired through guidance of spirit and has
(23:04):
been more in line with a universal love. And I
find that that's similar and common in many of the religions.
But I don't study the religions, so I really couldn't
answer that totally.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right, the people who come to you for your for
your guidance and your and your expertise and your your
ability to connect with those on the other side, how
does their experience with you change their religious beliefs?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Well, I can't answer how it has changed them because
I don't always know, I don't always have that contact
with them. But what I can say there have been
a few people that may have been afraid to connect
with me because of their Catholic upbringing, thinking that it
wasn't something that was of the highest good, And after
they have come they realized that it was pretty impactful
(24:01):
and spiritual and full of love. So that's what I
can explain to you what I have experienced. I've had
others come to me and say it's given them great
comfort and makes them feel closer to God universal life force.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
After somebody passes away, how long should their grieving family
wait before they try to communicate with them?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Well, it's not The problem isn't with the person on
the other side. And I should say that's an individual
aspect because some when they transition, they may have transitioned
from illness or they may have had an accident, and
some take a little bit longer to adapt than others.
But I've had some that have come through like right
(24:49):
away and others like within six months time. But I
find more importantly that the client needs to be ready.
They need to go through their morning process so that
they can actually hear what Spirit has to say.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
To them and what is the basic the basic reason
that they will that they want to connect with the spirit.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Many times it's to know that they're okay, to know
that they're around, to get that comfort level, to know
that you don't just die, that there is something else
out there. Many times they'll come through the validations of
seeing other babies that were born after their death, or
they give a lot of validations of things that have
happened that they wouldn't have known or I wouldn't have known,
(25:34):
and it makes them feel very comfortable knowing that they're
still alongside of them in their journey and that they'll
see them again. What happens, it's their time.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
But once again, what happens if this is all smoke
and mirrors? And I'm not saying that that to believe
in something is wrong, but I'm just saying what happens
if we lead people down a garden path that in
believing in something that isn't real.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Well, I caveat my sessions that this is for the
experience and it's up to the individual what they believe,
as in anything else, but they do have the validations
that come through to make their own judgment with that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But how do you know? Once again, validation is like
like past life regression. The person will believe what they
want to believe, and a lot of people who in it,
and a lot of people and a lot of people
in the time of need and when they're desperate, will
take any square and they can fit it into a
round hole.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Well, there's been some validations where there have been recorders
that speak when they're in a record moved, and there's
been other validations where spirit comes through. Talking about that
tattoo of a sparrow that was on someone's foot that
I couldn't see that they had just gotten there. I
mean the validation they're pretty impactful. Or I'll go workshop shopping,
(27:03):
meaning that I go shopping for a gift for a
person from workshop for the purpose of giving them out.
So I shop with spirit. I picked up several items
and then before going I decide through my meditation what
I'm supposed to bring with me. And those items can
be very, very telling for somebody. You know, they have
(27:26):
a lot of meaning for them, things that I couldn't know.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Is it possible that the information you're getting is through
something as simple as extrasensory perception, that you're picking up
the thought of when I was.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
A little girl, I would have thought that, But there's
been too many things that have happened since then, communications
with my grandfather, you know, too many things that have
happened for me to say that I would say no
to that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Have you ever been subjected to a polygraph test to
during a reading to see if there's any devian any children?
Do children come to you as well? And how do
you deal with a child?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
When you say children come to me, you mean children in.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Physical form or in spirits and physical well.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
A lot of times if children will come because they're
having experiences like I did, they typically come to me
with their parents. Okay, so I want to make sure
that I have parental consent and the parent is there.
If they're underage, and I let them talk to me
and tell me what they're experiencing, I want them to
if you're talking about counseling session to help them be aware.
(28:39):
That's how I would handle it, and then listen to them,
because it's important to listen to the children and let
them have faith instead of fear, to embrace this and
learn some tools to give themselves some confidence to help
them learn their their own language. But if someone comes
to me in a reading, it's handled the same way
(29:01):
as anyone else. I do tell parents make sure that
they're able to understand the content beforehand, and make sure
that they're with them.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Interesting, do you think that the veil between this side
and the other side is getting thinner?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
And if so, why, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But what I can tell you is that I have
noticed that there's been more and more people on board
with the subject. I came out of a closet. I
want to say, like fifteen years ago, and it just
seemed like at that time that it was starting to
come out. But when I was twenty or thirty years ago,
(29:42):
it was something you didn't talk about. So I think
the fact that more and more people are becoming aware
of it may make it that concept that the veil
is thinner.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
How does your immediate family, I mean, like your husband
or your children deal with the fact that you communicate
with others on the other side.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Well, at this point in time, they're okay, they're on
board with it. But it has been a journey in
my life in the in the very beginning years of
the unfolding, my children have always done great, and my
husband kind of looks at me a little funny, but
then he's been okay with it after a while.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
What has been the strangest is it?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know, he sees what happens.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What has been the strangest thing about has happened to
you as a as a reader and a spiritualist, Your
most extraordinary, extraordinary experience that you've had.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, for myself or with my clients, let's go with
you first.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Well, I was expecting my first grandchild and I saw
this image of a baby before I even knew I
was having this grandchild, and the baby it was a
little bit grown and it yelled at me and had
curly haired andess, it's my life. And it was very
very you know, vivacious. Well, the human part of me
(31:00):
got very nervous, thinking, oh god, there's nothing wrong, you know,
that analytical part. And after the baby was born, she
looked just like that image and her personality was just
like that, it's my life. So that was kind of
bizarre for me in the beginning to wrap my eyes
arms around that. And with each grandchild, I have had
(31:21):
a visitation before they were born, so it's been but
not like that one more subtle, but that child has
a very you know, great personality. So it would go
to they come through with their personalities.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And how about for your clients.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Well, I had a client that came to me. It
was sad for her. She had lost her only child,
and she came with another another a friend with her.
They both had voice recorders on the I had both
of them on the table and her child was coming
through telling her that she needs to believe these validations
(31:57):
because she had been going to other mediums as well,
you know, so I guess she's been looking and searching
and seeking. So in the communication, they were saying, you
really need to believe what you're hearing. You got this validation,
this validation in the other and then the voice recorder said,
as it's in record mode, message received, and then it
recorded that. So I thought that was kind of bizarre
(32:20):
to happen. And it was a great validation and a
great message.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So I don't understand when you say the recorder showed
message received.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Explained, Well, it didn't chase.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
It said it in a a in an electronic voice.
Now you know yourself if you have a voice recorder
and you put it in record mode, first of all,
it doesn't say anything unless you hit play true. So
it had it had a voice that said message received,
a computerized voice, and then it recorded it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Okay, I'm still having a bit of trouble.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
But.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It saying that message. It was in a position to.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Record, so it recorded the entire message. Yeah, okay. And
was it an analog or digital recorder?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Oh, you're asking me technical questions? A little sonny voice recorder?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
All right? So did it have a little cast in it?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
No, okay, So that's a digital all right? Now I
understand you've also authored a few books. Yes, so tell
me about being light driven Finding inner guidance.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Well, being light driven Finding in our Guidance was starting
out to be a journal for my children about impactful
things that happened in my life, and it turned out
to be a book that I like to share with
others who are having also experiences because it's all about
those early years and being aware that I am a medium.
(33:52):
And it also helps people understand that there's no such
thing as death and gives them a little bit of
tips to meditate go within so that they can have
their own inner guidance. And then the other book, Spiritual Guidance,
Trusting the Voice Within. If you fast forward a few years,
I was doing workshops and I co authored this with
(34:14):
doctor Kimberly Friedman, and we both had family corporate jobs
and did the spiritual workshop.
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as a medium. And you know, is there something else
that you can help people with besides communicating with those
that they have lost and are on the other side.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yes, I help people to become aware of their own
inner voice, their own connection, of understanding the symbolic energy
language that connects us all. Because many energy sensitive people,
maybe they're doing reiki, maybe they have an art project,
they're doing their artists or their musicians and they feel
(36:49):
a little disconnected. You know, energy is contagious, So if
you walk into a room and people have been fighting,
you kind of sense that wickness. That's a form of
energy that if you don't learn to protect your energy fields,
you can collect those things kind of like people get
(37:09):
a cold, you get that collective feeling. You don't keep
your ora clean, you end up feeling tired or you know,
and you know you're not tired, you had enough rest,
you know, or you start to feel uncomfortable. There's different
methods that I can assist people with in helping themselves
keep their energy clean, being more connected.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I've gotten to many psychic farris where there's been mediums
and psychics and so on. How can someone tell who's listening,
who a credible medium is and who isn't a credible medium?
What are some of the red flags?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Well, I am not sure how to tell how other
people are. I think one question, one way maybe is
if they ask you questions. I would rather not have
anybody tell me anything beforehand. And there's a view of
a lazy medium would be oh do you have this
(38:09):
or do you have that, as opposed to saying what
you're seeing, feeling, and hearing. Now, I do ask my
clients to say, yes, I understand, I know I don't understand,
but I don't want them to feed me information.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
What would you say that may be a good way.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, how about any other or any other hints that
you can help our listeners with.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Well, I've never I don't look at people as far
as if they were skeptical or you know, as if
they were a fake or not. But I think I
follow my intuition and if it feels right and you
don't get that feeling in your stomachiche, maybe I shouldn't
because you're in our guidance. If you get connected to
that will point you in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Can anyone become a medium?
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I think everyone is psychic. I think everyone can enhance
that ability to make that connection, and everyone can have
an after death communication. Whether or not they'd do it
to the level and public that I do it, I'm
not sure, but I think they can enhance what they
have to have their connections.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
What was it that that helped you to decide to
go public?
Speaker 5 (39:17):
I was meditating and I was told that I could
either help a few or help many, and At that time,
I was really scared. It wasn't popular. I was afraid
of the effects that would have on my family, and
I would only do this for close friends and family.
But I decided to take that second route and help others,
and it just so happened synchronistically. I was in another
(39:40):
medium's workshop and someone in the back of the room
heard my family talking to me that what I was doing,
and then afterwards she asked me to read her and
I ended up reading her in the back of the
room when we were all done, when it was all
closed up, And that was the first time I came
out in that aspect, and then from there it got
(40:00):
larger and larger.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
What does a person learn in a medium workshop, Well.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
There's many things that they learn because it's you know,
they're watching the group sessions, is what I'm talking about.
There's other workshops where I teach, but in a group
session where it's a channeling session, people will see other
people receive in the interact and in that setting, whether
they were maybe afraid to get a direct relationship or
(40:30):
they're seeing it and they're getting the understanding that our
loved ones continue. They're also sharing information maybe from a
person they don't know, or a person they do know
a message that would be specific for both of them,
and it is. It's a wonderful feeling afterwards.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
What do those on the other side tell you about
the afterlife? What is the afterli like life like?
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Well, I can only tell you what I have had
in my experience, and there's peace and love there. And
though those on the other side that I connect with
with clients, they have healings too, and they like it
when you pray for them because it helps them as
(41:15):
much as it helps the people that are here. I
get a feeling of peace and grace and that they're
satisfied and that they're happy. But there's different levels of
positive in the afterlife, just as there are different levels
of people here and in this world. I don't know
(41:36):
if I'm articulating that or explaining that correctly, but it's
it's sometimes it's hard to articulate a vibration of energy
that you're understanding into our language, so everyone understands it.
But it's there's levels of goodness, not they. I don't
think there's a hell in a heaven. I think there's
all levels of good are a little little murkier than others.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Gotcha. If there's no heaven or if there's no hell
and there is just the afterlife, why is prayer so important?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Prayer?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
It's my opinion, is my opinion only. Prayer is a
focused thought with emotion and the highest level of vibration
is one of love that I've learned. The lowest vibration
that I've learned is fear. And if you think about it,
(42:32):
almost all negativity comes from a place of fear. So
if you look at your emotions of how they interact
with you on a regular basis, you can kind of
use your thoughts to get a better vibration to project
the universe to co create with your life. Now, a
(42:52):
prayer is a focused thought. I like math holidays when
people all over the world like Christmas, for example, they
are trying to gather with a focused thought and a prayer.
I think that's very high vibrational energy for everybody.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Tell me, have you ever had an encounter with a
Ouiji board? And if so, what is your opinion.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
I don't like them. They're not a boy and they're
not a game. When I was very younger, when I
was very young, a little girl, I did and it
would move quite wildly. But as I got older, I
realized that that's a way of opening up without grounding
and protecting your energy. So I don't think that you
(43:39):
should view that as a game. I think it's a
good practice to ground yourself, to protect yourself with so
that only that which is of your highest good will
be in your experience. Law of attraction like attracts like,
So you want to make sure that you're not opening
yourself up to anything fearful.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well, couldn't we say the same about a pendulum, about dowsing,
about crystals, it's a matter of perception and a matter
of use.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
Well, I suppose to some level you can. But people
view a Wiji board as a game. They don't look
at crystals as a game. So they're out in the
stores or you know, as a game, and I don't think,
and they're very widespread. I just don't. In my opinion,
I wouldn't want my children and grandchildren playing with them.
Yet I love crystals, and I think they can play
(44:29):
with them all they want.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
I had an interesting talk with someone who was a
numerologist and still is, and they were saying, what's the
difference between playing it with a Ouiji board and going
and putting numbers in for the lottery, because what you're
doing is you're still using some sort of divination to
try and accomplish something.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Well, in my opinion, that's different. And the reason is
that you're opening yourself out without grounding yourself first. That's
my only reason I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
So how should somebody ground themselves?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Well, everyone has a little bit of a different practice.
In my practice, I have my feet on my floor.
I use imagery, prayer, and I imagine that I have
the white light around me. I use what I believe
in with archangel Michael. But whatever it is that they
believe in as a high good, as a good vibration,
whether it be God, whether it be your grandfather, whoever
(45:26):
it is, being there to protect you. Because it's a
matter of vibration, imagery altogether. You can imagine your feet
grounding into the floor using mother Nature. So it's just
a practice to develop a practice.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
And I would imagine that your intent on what you
intend on doing once you're grounded has a lot to
do with it.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
Absolutely, the intention is ninety nine percent of everything. It's
not so much what it is that you're doing, whether
you're burning the stage to clear the energy, but it's
the intention behind it. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
We've got about a minute and a half left. What
are your final thoughts for the x ownation tonight.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
I'm grateful for being here and I want to thank
you for inviting me to have this conversation. It was
quite an interesting one. It shows different aspects and I
hope that people will have their own experience and make.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Their own judgments and let our listeners know how they
can contact you.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
Please feel free to contact me at my website www,
the number two communicate dot net and you can email
me at Lisa at the number two communicate dot net.
I look forward to hearing from.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
All of you, and thank you so much for joining
us tonight. Lisa. I asked her some hard questions and
got good answers. That's what I appreciate. Somebody who doesn't
back down, doesn't snow job. But like she says, it's
a matter of belief and as we've said many times,
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