December 7, 2025 • 40 mins
Lloyd Pye was introduced to the Starchild Skull and founded The Starchild Project in February 1999. He is the chief fundraiser, international spokesperson, and research coordinator for the Starchild Project. In 2007 he published a seminal book on the skull, The Starchild Skull, and recently added a new eBook, Lloyd Pye's Starchild Skull Essentials, which distills the skull's story into the tightest package possible. During his decade at the helm of the Starchild Project he has traveled to speak in a dozen countries around the world, appeared in a dozen television documentaries, been interviewed on national and international radio hundreds of times, and written a series of articles for publications in the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Italy Japan, and Brazil. - www.starchildproject.com
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The Starchouse Call is a real true bones skull. It
was found in Mexico around the Copper Canyon area about
nineteen thirty. Carbon fourteen analysis has shown that it died
about nine hundred years ago. As you can see, it
is very different in shape from a typical human skull.
But over the last ten years with the starch Owl project,
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we've had dozens of experts examine it and they can
come up with no kind of typical human deformity that
matches all of the unusual things about this skull. Its
unusual physiology begins with the bone itself. It's uniformly half
as thick as normal human bone, and it weighs half
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as much. It's very light by comparison, and yet it's
two or three times as hard. It's extremely durable. We
think some of that durability comes from very unusual fibers
woven through the matrix of the bone, never seen in
any other animal of any kind. Also, a red residue
found in the bone in the cancellus holes that is
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also very unlike any other bone that is known.
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Lloyd Pie is my special guest x own Nation and
his website is www dot Starchild project dot com and
his personal site is Lloydpie dot com. Lloyd, for the
listeners who may be out there who have no idea
what starchild is, can you give us a bit of
a background.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, the starchild is a real true bone skull that
was found in Mexico about nineteen thirty. It was kept
as simply a deformed human by the person that found it,
she when she died, she passed it on and that
the people who received it received it as that. Then
another couple came into ownership of it in late nineteen
(07:08):
eighty nineteen ninety eight rather and they happened to be unique,
and that the wife was a neo natal nurse. She
knew right away that it wasn't a typical human deformity
because it was too light and it was too symmetrical.
And they also were members of El Paso's Muffon Mutual
UFO network, so they knew enough about it to know
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that the skull looked very, very similar to what one
would imagine the skull of a gray alien would look like.
So combining those two things, they wanted an answer. They
thought that it might well be the skull of a
gray And when they showed it to me and asked
me to take charge of determining that, I agreed that
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it was highly unusual. But I also felt it was almost,
you know, like eighty percent certain that it would be
a deformity of some kind that we just didn't know about,
but that specialists would know about. But over the year
nineteen ninety nine, as I took it to experts and
got their opinions about it. Nobody could find anything close
to a series of deformities that would add up to
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what the Star Child was because every single part of
its physiology was different from human. There was not a
thing about it where you could say, okay, this is
exactly like a human nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, no
part of it. So at the end of that year
we knew that we had something that was completely physiologically different,
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but science wouldn't accept that, as they just said nature
can do that, Nature can do anything. So we were
really hamstrung at that point, and it came down to DNA.
So we spent I spent years trying to get the
proper DNA test lined up and finally did that in
two of three and the result of that was that
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it had a human mother and a non human father.
But what we couldn't prove in tool three was how
far away the father was from human. So again scientists
thwarted us from being able to say, you know, this
is an alien human hybrid because we couldn't say for
sure how far away it was. Now there is a
test available from a company called four or five four
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Life Sciences that would allow us to run a DNA
test that would determine with great precision how far away
from human this to our child is. And we're talking
percentage points away from human. And so we're going to
win this finally, we know that we will. We know
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that it's going to be a significant difference away from
human simply because of all the physiological differences. So we're
we're in the catbird seat, rob We just but we
need an awful lot of money. That's a very expensive test,
about a quarter million dollars for both the tests and
the analysis of the results. It has to be done
to compare all of its base pairs to a chimp,
(10:07):
into a gorilla and to a Neanderthal. We should have
that completed by then, so a lot to do. It's
very expensive. The whole process has to be filmed. But
that's another quarter million. So we're talking about a good
sized investment, but a tremendous reward making history as big
as history can be made. So it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
What would happen, Lloyd if after the exams, after all
the tests, after all the hard work that you've put
in over these years, and the amount of media that
you've tried to get for this, the amount of scientific
acknowledgment and recognition as well as testing that you've tried
to get for the star child, it turns out to
be a deformed human.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, it just you know, it isn't that. I mean,
I understand people ask me that all the time, Well
what you going to do if you're wrong? And all
I keep saying is there's just no way I'm not wrong.
If I was wrong, it would have shown up in
the DNA testing of two three. Remember we found that
the mother was human through the mitochondrial DNA in six attempts,
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we could not recover its nuclear DNA. Now we know
it's mother is human. Yeah, so there's no nothing stopping
the recovery of the nuclear DNA except the father not
being human.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now, Lloyd, I remember, I remember you being on the
show a number of years ago when you were telling
me about how the Russians were using Bigfoot and that
the Russian men would have sex with the bigfoot. Now,
what happens if this is a case of a human
who was raped or had consensual sex with a primate.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, it couldn't be that, because number one, there's nothing
primate about the skull, not only is there nothing human
about the skull about the starchild skull, there's nothing primate
about it either. Now, as far as the instances of Xana,
the Russian hominoid Alma type having sex with humans, she
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had sex over a period of forty years, and she
got pregnant eight times. She had four children and four
that lived out of those eight. So while it can happen,
but only with the Almas, because it looks like the
Almas were the quote. And this is getting off into
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things that the audience is not going to understand. But
if you believe what I believe, which is the intervention
theory that humans are here because of alien intervention, that
all of domesticated plants and animals are here because of
alien intervention, and that as they were creating us, they
say in their writings in the Sumerian text that they
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used a quote creature of Earth as the genetic base
to which they added the great majority of the DNA
their own, and it was done in a quote house
of fashioning, which we take to be a genetics lab.
The starchild has so little human that no human really
physically visible in it except for its mitochondrial DNA, and
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that is exactly what you would expect if a human
egg was used as a vessel for a human hybrid
offspring that was created in a lab in which you
have a let's say, ninety percent father, ten percent mother,
or ninety five percent father, five percent mother, which you
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can do genetically if you know what you're doing, and
you can we do things like that right now, So
that's what the star Child is. It's not a hybrid
where it's the result of a sexual union between two
different speeds sees, but close enough to make a match,
as in the case of Xanna and humans.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
All right now, now, Lloyd, let I just I just
had a thought here, and I hope you I hope
you forgive me for interrupting you. Sure, God, have there
been any other skeletal remains found like the Starchild anywhere
on this planet? Because if it's alien, wouldn't there be
sisters or brothers or other skeletons a lot that are
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like and have the same consistency and makeup of Starchild.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, it's quite possible, but they, so far as anybody knows,
they've never been found. I get probably every weird skull
there is sent to me and over the last eleven years,
I've seen a whole lot of them, but none of
them look like the star Child that you know that
I'm aware of. Now, that's not to say that once
not out there or hidden away in a museum file
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somewhere because it's so weird and they figured it out.
It's just a deformity. Let's not bother with it. If
the star Child, you know, when we get to Starchild
being well known, well accepted, known everywhere, probably in some
museum somewhere, somebody's gonna say, you know, we got one
that looks kind of like that. Let's you know, and
somebody might some old worker might remember it or something.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know, there's a question for you. There's a question.
Have you contacted all the museums, sent them pictures and
profiles of Starchild to see if they have anything in
their museum or in their archives that resemble what you have?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, have not done that wouldn't punted on, have counted
on television appearances in television shows to do that. You know,
we've been on that.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's not gonna work, friend, that's not going to work.
That that is not going to work. You have to
send the information to the museums, and I would have thought, well.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, you know what I've tried in trying to contact
anything mainstream, Rob, And I've done this for quite a lot.
Anytime you try to approach a mainstream anything, the first
thing they say is when they hear the word star
child or weird skull or anything like that, it's like, oh, no,
who are you again? Oh and then they check you
out on Wikipedia. And I don't know if your audience
(16:04):
is aware, but Wikipedia is dedicated to slamming and ridiculing
and disparaging anybody that has anything to do with alternative knowledge.
You can't trust the word Wikipedia says, pause.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I don't know they've given us a great write up.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh, they've given us a horrible and they've they really
given you a good writer? They no kidding. Well, most
of the people that I know, and certainly me and
the star Child have just been completely slammed. And really
for I'm surprised, I'll check out and see what they
say about you. But for most people, Wikipedia is absolutely
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negative relative. But that's what happens. So you tell people
who you are, what you have, and they go on
Wikipedia and they say, oh, well, this is a hoax.
This is a fraud and we can't you know, we're
not even going to bother and they don't even return
your call, they don't return your emails. It's just it's
a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
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Hi.
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Everyone, Rob McConnell here, and I wanted to spend a
moment on Internet streaming. Everybody has heard about Internet streaming,
but not many know much about it. Did you know?
The Internet streams just about everything, from new releases to
old classics, almost every show, every episode, and much more.
But the question has always been how do you do it?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
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I have the answer for you. They have developed a
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starchildproject dot com and Lloydpie dot com. We're talking about
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the starchild. Uh what do we call it? Starchild skull,
the how do you how do you talk to people
about it?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, you know, I call it that. Although it was
a mistake looking back on it, if there's one thing
I wish I had to do over it was naming
it the starchild, because that automatically slants it in the
direction of what we believe, and according to science, you
can't do that. You have to have just some neutral
thing that doesn't put any connotation on it. So unfortunately
(19:51):
it has the name starchild, and as soon as anybody
from the mainstream here's that, they run the other way,
screaming and tearing their hair out because they can't be
you know, associated within thing to do with UFOs or aliens,
or their peers won't take them seriously. So it's a
real problem. Notwithstanding the fact that initially we thought it
was a child, and we have found out subsequently that
(20:12):
it was a you know, we don't know how old
it was, but it was a fully grown adult, and
you know, just one of the early mistakes. That was
one of the things that one of the policies that
we had from the very beginning is we were going
to just tell the truth all the time, whatever the
testing said, whenever the testing said it, not hold things back,
just put it out there and let the chips fall
(20:35):
where they may. And here, like I said, here i
am eleven years later, having followed that policy the whole way,
having made mistakes. Obviously, there's no roadmap for something like this.
But in the end, the bottom line is that this
thing is a human alien hybrid, and we have the
we're in the position to be able to prove that
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beyond any shadow of scientific doubt. All we need is
to find, you know, the deep pockets SuperH.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Wait a second, Hold on here, hold on here. You
just said that you're in possession of a human alien
hybrid and you can prove that absolutely, So how cow
can you say unequivocally, Lloyd, that you have an alien
human hybrid if it hasn't been authenticated and verified as such.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, it has been. That's the whole point in two
oh three. That's the result that we got from the
from the DNA testing that we had done.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Then by wait a second, Wait a second, If my
memory serves me correctly, with what we were saying in
the past hour was that it was its mother was human,
the identity or origin of its father was not identified yet.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Right, Well, it's it's not human, it's not primate. So
what does that leave. I mean, it isn't going to
be dog, it isn't going to be rabbit. Right, You
still can't get here it's alien.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You cannot say, all right, it may be alien to this,
to this planet, or to our species, but we don't
know for a fact that it's not from this planet.
And we don't know for a fact that if in fact,
it is alien from another world.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well that's yeah, okay, that is what we're intending to prove,
or want to prove, or will prove that it isn't
from this planet because the DNA as it unfolds. That's
the beauty of the four or five four life science technology,
which is the technology that we need. It allows for
the recovery of the entire genome of an unknown species.
(22:31):
And when I see the entire genome, that means in
the case of a human, all three billion based pairs. Now,
we and chimps and gorillas all have roughly the same
three billion based pairs. It's turning out that the Neanderthal,
for reasons that have not been explained yet, has substantially
more base pairs in a substantially larger genome than we have,
(22:54):
which is a bit of a mystery right now how
they're going to explain that. But the bottom line is,
whatever the star Child has, it's going to have. It
may have two billion, it may have three billion, it
may have five billion. Whatever it has, the technology is
available to recover all or most of it. And so
that's what we intend to do. And I'm telling you
(23:17):
that based on what we know now from the physiological differences,
which are very very consistently opposite from human and from
the DNA test that we had done, it indicates that
while this creature, whatever it was, came from, it was
born from an egg of a human being, just stated,
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in a human being birth from a human being, what
was inside that egg was not human. And so that
can't be anything other than genetic engineering. Now, you can't
tell me, you know, a monkey or a rabbit or
anything else could have genetically Only an alien could do that.
An alien is we define an alien. So I am
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able to say I think with a great deal of
certainty that it's going to be a human alien hybrid.
Now saying it to the level that I can prove
it in a court of law, which I can do now,
is not able to prove it in the court of
public opinion because science absolutely has a stranglehold on the
court of public opinion because of their stranglehold on the
(24:24):
mainstream media. So we can't really get mainstream media attention.
I'll tell you a quick story. We had a storyline.
We had an article lined up in the Daily Mail
in England when I was in Europe speaking earlier this year.
The Daily Mail is the largest paper in England, six
three million copies bought every day, six million readers every
(24:47):
day on average. Okay, so the Daily Mail, they're all excited.
It's wonderful. They've They've assigned one of their top science writers,
a PhD in biochemic in Biokim Mystry, to do the report,
so he would understand the DNA and all that. He
turns in his article. It's supposed to be published on
(25:08):
a Wednesday. It's turned in on Tuesday afternoon at two
o'clock before the deadline. Everything is fine up to that
point un till he turned the story in. And when
he turned the story in, which was quite complimentary in
saying I can't find any holes here, Suddenly the Daily
Mail did not publish it, and we had to apply
pressure on them to allow it ultimately to be published
(25:29):
just on a website there in England, but it never
was in the newspaper so that six million people could
read it. Somebody, somebody spiked that story. Somebody is making
this information difficult for me to get out there. That's
what I'm up against, because I think they know what
it is.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
If this was such a threat to the scientific community,
and if the scientific community has taken no interest in
it because they really don't want to. If it wasn't fact,
something from another world, and if it was something in
a fact that was a threat to them, wouldn't they
want to have it examined so that they could bury
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the skull once and for all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, they certainly, I think, would try their very best
to detegrate whatever results that we got. But I think
what happened rob was it got away back in nineteen
ninety nine when there was no hope on any horizon
of being able to prove it beyond a shadow of
a doubt. There was no four or five four life science,
there was no recovery of entire genomes. So if based
(26:35):
on what they had to make a decision at that time,
they could let it go because there was no way
I was going to prove it beyond a scientific doubt
by simply physiological comparison, which is all that we had
at that time, and through and then later with the
(26:55):
DNA testing using primers, that was there was no way
I could do it. There was no way to prove
it so that no scientists could squawk about it, so
that I could cram it down all of their throats
and they'd have to smile. That is what can happen
now with the four or five four technology. Nobody at
that time could have conceived it, and now it's too late.
(27:18):
Everybody knows this, well, not everybody, but millions of people
know the star channel's out there. We've secured different pieces
of the bone in different places with different people, and
they don't know each other. So if they tried to
take it, you know, anything from anybody, everybody else goes
on alert. You see what I mean. So I think
we've pretty much got them. It's just will they can
(27:40):
slow us down, which they're doing. They're doing everything they
can to slow us down. Can't really stop us because
ultimately somebody, some person that they can't get to or
can't turn around? Is going to put up the money,
And when we put up the money, we will then
get our answer. And if we're able to film it
and all that, we'll make sure that there's no hanky
(28:01):
panky done to switch things around and make it come
out human and we will be in good shape. We
have this in the bag if we can just get
the help that we need to clear that final hurdle.
We've got it made.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
With millions of people around the world wanting to know
the answer. Why can't those millions of people each passing
a dollar and get the answers that everyone is seeking?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, because you know people, you'd think that would work,
but man put out you put out please for that
and people don't respond. I think everybody they know to
say they know about it, to know about the Star
Child and to say they believe what I believe about
it and what those of us you know on the
inside who've really studied it believe about it are two
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different things. I've published an ebook about it. You might
as well mention this to your audience. If you go
on the Star Child site, you'll see an ebook Lloyd
Pie's Starchild Skull essentials. Now there is a book book.
There's a real book, a full book, the starch I'll skull.
You can read if you want to. But the ebook
has all of the facts stacked up high and tight
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like cordwood. It's just fact after fact after fact after fact.
Anybody that reads that, even a skeptic, is going to
know this thing can't be human. I mean, it's just
no way. This is a deformity. They may not be
willing to go so far as to accept it as
a human alien hybrid, although the other there's no other option.
There's no other answer. That is what it is. Take
you by an hour to read it and you're done.
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I mean, you know what this thing is about and
you can talk about it intelligently if you read the ebook.
That's what I would recommend to anybody that has any
doubts about it, that what I'm saying is one hundred
percent true because it is just simply read the e book.
It's all right there. Hold up for you.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Okay, you've got a great website, you've got a morephing animation.
You've got YouTube, so you've got videos. You've got the
entire nine yards at ww startell project dot com. It
surprises me that mainstream media, the scientific community as well
as the scholar community have not gone there, looked it
(30:13):
over and sent you an email saying you know what
this is? What that is?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Well, I know this is what everybody says. Rob They say, well,
look if what you have is real, if what you're
saying is true, science would be all over it. The
media would be all over it. No, they wouldn't. That's
what I thought they wouldn't. It's been there for years.
I've been trying for years. Larry King has has people
on his show all the time talking about Ufostan Stan
Freeman on all the time, regularly James Fox with his films,
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and does he ever call me? No? Do I call?
Do I try to get in touch with him? Yes?
Do they ever answer my emails? No? Ellen DeGeneres, she's
another show where she'll have unusual people on. This is
what we'd genes from New Orleans. I'm from New Orleans.
Can I get through to Ellen Degeneresi's people know this,
get through to Oprah?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
No, this is what we'd like to do. This is
what we'd like to do. We'd like to take your
starchild information and using our resources see if we can
get scientists, museums and the media interested. If you're willing to.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Look, I invite you to try. All I get is
if it was if it was real, we'd already know
about it, all right, that was legitimate, We'd already know
about it. That's their answer to me, time and time again.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
All right, We're going to do that and whatever response
to try. Hey, listen, nothing gained, nothing lost, rightly, And
what we will do is we will make sure that
you get every ounce of reply that we get. And
what we'll also do is we'll put up a special
Star Child website on x on Radio TV dot com,
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and we'll also post who we've sent it to, what
their response has been, and well, let these people know that, hey,
we want answers, and if you're not going to get
them to us one way, we'll get them another.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
There you go, Look, whatever you want to do, I'm
all for it. We've tried every way you can think
of and just been turned at every you know. And
also they're famous people out there. They're the UFO oriented
Steven Spielberg and something like that. They pay people to
Their job is to deflect people like me from getting
through to them. So if anybody listening knows how to
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get with any of those celebrities that have high profiles
and are interested in this kind of thing, by all means,
let them know. I got through to dan Akrod who
would who more than him, got right through to his secretary.
She happened. I spoke with a lecture and its secretary
was sitting there, and she came up. She told me
she went to him. No, I didn't want to do it. It's
(32:38):
just it's unbelievable to me that so many people are
out there and who profess interest and desire to have
this done. But when it comes right down to something
like this, where the rubber really does meet the road,
you would be surprised at how scared they get, and
they back off and they crawfish out, and they don't
want anything to do with it, because it is a
(32:58):
scary thing to be involved in the changing of history
at a level that this has the potential to do. Well,
we'll see what we can do.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
We'll see what we can do with our clout that
we've gathered over the last nineteen years of doing this show.
Got to take our commercial break. We'll be back on
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Pie is our special guest starchildproject dot com and Lloydpie
dot com. First of all, Lloyd is always great having
you on the show Man. You know, like you're one
of the hardest working guys that I know in this
(36:15):
in this genre, who has something that they believe to
be out of this world. And it seems that you're
getting blocked at every corner that you turn, and I
find it very frustrating for you, and this is why
we're willing to do whatever we can to help.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well. Listen, I appreciate it very much, and I think
that's why I'm thrust, you know, frustrated and parted at
every turn, is because it is the real thing, and
I think people know that, and when they see it
and deal with it and understand it, it's like who
wants You would think everybody would want to jump on
the bandwagon and be a part of it. But when
they think about it, I guess in the heart of
(36:50):
arts late at and I whatever, it's like that it's
just too scary. The change, the potential for change is
so dramatic and so overwhelming that they don't necessarily want
to be involved in it. That's all I can all
I can think, Llid, what.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Would you like to leave our listeners with this evening?
And what can what can they do as individuals around
the world to help, well.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
To help more than anything is just educate yourselves about
the starchild. Go to the website, please read, inform yourself.
If you can uh get the get the e book
or get the book. I would recommend the e book
just because it's it's simple and easy to get and read,
and it gives you a full understanding and that makes
you the smartest person in the room. When the subject
(37:34):
of UFOs and aliens comes up, and you know, you
may know somebody. You have a friend of a friend
who knows there is a deep pocket person out there
who will take this on as a challenge as something
that they want to have an answer to. They'll be
able to invest the money as a business proposition. It's
not just money down a rat hole. It's it's we'll
(37:56):
turn it into a documentary film that will earn the
money back. So it's a good deal. And I would
urge any and everybody to take a close look at it,
educate yourselves, and take it out into the world and
help me because I'm just you know, one guy and
a few radio shows, in TV shows and magazines and books.
It's not enough. I need help.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
What we've got here from one of my producers is
the website for people trying to help out you, Lloyd.
Help you out. Lloyd with a starchild is exonradiotv dot
com forward slash starchild and the email address is going
to be starchild at xonradiotv dot com. Thanks guys, Lloyd
will do what we can. I can't make you any promises,
(38:37):
but what I can promise you is that you've got
the resources that we've amasked here over the last nineteen
years doing the show. And if you can't help a
friend out, who can you help?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Absolutely, Rob and listen, we've been at this for a
long time together, you and I and I appreciate all
the effort that you've made in my behalf over the years,
and I will appreciate this too, and just you know,
keep me posted on anything that comes your way.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I will.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Lloyd, thank you very much and from our home to yours.
First of all, give your wife my best wishes. I
hope she's feeling better. And to you and your wife,
your friends and associates, a very merry Christmas and a happy, healthy,
prosperous and spiritually filled New Year.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Same to everyone out there listening in to you and yours.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
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The Starchouse Call is a real true bones skull. It
was found in Mexico around the Copper Canyon area about
nineteen thirty. Carbon fourteen analysis has shown that it died
about nine hundred years ago. As you can see, it
is very different in shape from a typical human skull.
But over the last ten years with the starch Owl project,
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we've had dozens of experts examine it and they can
come up with no kind of typical human deformity that
matches all of the unusual things about this skull. Its
unusual physiology begins with the bone itself. It's uniformly half
as thick as normal human bone, and it weighs half
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as much. It's very light by comparison, and yet it's
two or three times as hard. It's extremely durable. We
think some of that durability comes from very unusual fibers
woven through the matrix of the bone, never seen in
any other animal of any kind. Also, a red residue
found in the bone in the cancellus holes that is
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also very unlike any other bone that is known.
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You were listening to my good friend Lloyd Pie talk
about the star child skull. Now, the starchild skull has
been a topic of controversy within the et UFO field
for many years. One of the people who has done
(02:55):
his very best over the years to try and get
a scientific study of the star Child skull. Is my
guest this hour, Lloydpie. He has two websites. We're going
to be talking to Lloyd about the star Child project
and that's www dot Starchildproject dot com and his website,
(03:15):
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How are you well?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Thank you Rob, And it's good to be back and
I'm doing good. Thank you very much.
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Lloyd Pie is my special guest x own Nation and
his website is www dot Starchild project dot com and
his personal site is Lloydpie dot com. Lloyd, for the
listeners who may be out there who have no idea
what starchild is, can you give us a bit of
a background.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, the starchild is a real true bone skull that
was found in Mexico about nineteen thirty. It was kept
as simply a deformed human by the person that found it,
she when she died, she passed it on and that
the people who received it received it as that. Then
another couple came into ownership of it in late nineteen
(07:08):
eighty nineteen ninety eight rather and they happened to be unique,
and that the wife was a neo natal nurse. She
knew right away that it wasn't a typical human deformity
because it was too light and it was too symmetrical.
And they also were members of El Paso's Muffon Mutual
UFO network, so they knew enough about it to know
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that the skull looked very, very similar to what one
would imagine the skull of a gray alien would look like.
So combining those two things, they wanted an answer. They
thought that it might well be the skull of a
gray And when they showed it to me and asked
me to take charge of determining that, I agreed that
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it was highly unusual. But I also felt it was almost,
you know, like eighty percent certain that it would be
a deformity of some kind that we just didn't know about,
but that specialists would know about. But over the year
nineteen ninety nine, as I took it to experts and
got their opinions about it. Nobody could find anything close
to a series of deformities that would add up to
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what the Star Child was because every single part of
its physiology was different from human. There was not a
thing about it where you could say, okay, this is
exactly like a human nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, no
part of it. So at the end of that year
we knew that we had something that was completely physiologically different,
(08:40):
but science wouldn't accept that, as they just said nature
can do that, Nature can do anything. So we were
really hamstrung at that point, and it came down to DNA.
So we spent I spent years trying to get the
proper DNA test lined up and finally did that in
two of three and the result of that was that
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it had a human mother and a non human father.
But what we couldn't prove in tool three was how
far away the father was from human. So again scientists
thwarted us from being able to say, you know, this
is an alien human hybrid because we couldn't say for
sure how far away it was. Now there is a
test available from a company called four or five four
(09:24):
Life Sciences that would allow us to run a DNA
test that would determine with great precision how far away
from human this to our child is. And we're talking
percentage points away from human. And so we're going to
win this finally, we know that we will. We know
(09:44):
that it's going to be a significant difference away from
human simply because of all the physiological differences. So we're
we're in the catbird seat, rob We just but we
need an awful lot of money. That's a very expensive test,
about a quarter million dollars for both the tests and
the analysis of the results. It has to be done
to compare all of its base pairs to a chimp,
(10:07):
into a gorilla and to a Neanderthal. We should have
that completed by then, so a lot to do. It's
very expensive. The whole process has to be filmed. But
that's another quarter million. So we're talking about a good
sized investment, but a tremendous reward making history as big
as history can be made. So it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
What would happen, Lloyd if after the exams, after all
the tests, after all the hard work that you've put
in over these years, and the amount of media that
you've tried to get for this, the amount of scientific
acknowledgment and recognition as well as testing that you've tried
to get for the star child, it turns out to
be a deformed human.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, it just you know, it isn't that. I mean,
I understand people ask me that all the time, Well
what you going to do if you're wrong? And all
I keep saying is there's just no way I'm not wrong.
If I was wrong, it would have shown up in
the DNA testing of two three. Remember we found that
the mother was human through the mitochondrial DNA in six attempts,
(11:17):
we could not recover its nuclear DNA. Now we know
it's mother is human. Yeah, so there's no nothing stopping
the recovery of the nuclear DNA except the father not
being human.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now, Lloyd, I remember, I remember you being on the
show a number of years ago when you were telling
me about how the Russians were using Bigfoot and that
the Russian men would have sex with the bigfoot. Now,
what happens if this is a case of a human
who was raped or had consensual sex with a primate.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, it couldn't be that, because number one, there's nothing
primate about the skull, not only is there nothing human
about the skull about the starchild skull, there's nothing primate
about it either. Now, as far as the instances of Xana,
the Russian hominoid Alma type having sex with humans, she
(12:19):
had sex over a period of forty years, and she
got pregnant eight times. She had four children and four
that lived out of those eight. So while it can happen,
but only with the Almas, because it looks like the
Almas were the quote. And this is getting off into
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things that the audience is not going to understand. But
if you believe what I believe, which is the intervention
theory that humans are here because of alien intervention, that
all of domesticated plants and animals are here because of
alien intervention, and that as they were creating us, they
say in their writings in the Sumerian text that they
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used a quote creature of Earth as the genetic base
to which they added the great majority of the DNA
their own, and it was done in a quote house
of fashioning, which we take to be a genetics lab.
The starchild has so little human that no human really
physically visible in it except for its mitochondrial DNA, and
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that is exactly what you would expect if a human
egg was used as a vessel for a human hybrid
offspring that was created in a lab in which you
have a let's say, ninety percent father, ten percent mother,
or ninety five percent father, five percent mother, which you
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can do genetically if you know what you're doing, and
you can we do things like that right now, So
that's what the star Child is. It's not a hybrid
where it's the result of a sexual union between two
different speeds sees, but close enough to make a match,
as in the case of Xanna and humans.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
All right now, now, Lloyd, let I just I just
had a thought here, and I hope you I hope
you forgive me for interrupting you. Sure, God, have there
been any other skeletal remains found like the Starchild anywhere
on this planet? Because if it's alien, wouldn't there be
sisters or brothers or other skeletons a lot that are
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like and have the same consistency and makeup of Starchild.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, it's quite possible, but they, so far as anybody knows,
they've never been found. I get probably every weird skull
there is sent to me and over the last eleven years,
I've seen a whole lot of them, but none of
them look like the star Child that you know that
I'm aware of. Now, that's not to say that once
not out there or hidden away in a museum file
(14:54):
somewhere because it's so weird and they figured it out.
It's just a deformity. Let's not bother with it. If
the star Child, you know, when we get to Starchild
being well known, well accepted, known everywhere, probably in some
museum somewhere, somebody's gonna say, you know, we got one
that looks kind of like that. Let's you know, and
somebody might some old worker might remember it or something.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know, there's a question for you. There's a question.
Have you contacted all the museums, sent them pictures and
profiles of Starchild to see if they have anything in
their museum or in their archives that resemble what you have?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, have not done that wouldn't punted on, have counted
on television appearances in television shows to do that. You know,
we've been on that.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's not gonna work, friend, that's not going to work.
That that is not going to work. You have to
send the information to the museums, and I would have thought, well.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, you know what I've tried in trying to contact
anything mainstream, Rob, And I've done this for quite a lot.
Anytime you try to approach a mainstream anything, the first
thing they say is when they hear the word star
child or weird skull or anything like that, it's like, oh, no,
who are you again? Oh and then they check you
out on Wikipedia. And I don't know if your audience
(16:04):
is aware, but Wikipedia is dedicated to slamming and ridiculing
and disparaging anybody that has anything to do with alternative knowledge.
You can't trust the word Wikipedia says, pause.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I don't know they've given us a great write up.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh, they've given us a horrible and they've they really
given you a good writer? They no kidding. Well, most
of the people that I know, and certainly me and
the star Child have just been completely slammed. And really
for I'm surprised, I'll check out and see what they
say about you. But for most people, Wikipedia is absolutely
(16:42):
negative relative. But that's what happens. So you tell people
who you are, what you have, and they go on
Wikipedia and they say, oh, well, this is a hoax.
This is a fraud and we can't you know, we're
not even going to bother and they don't even return
your call, they don't return your emails. It's just it's
a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Really, when you come right now, wait stand by, old friend.
You and I have to take a commercial break with
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Visit these two websites, starchildproject dot com. It's a great
site and I'm telling you you can spend hours there.
But after spending some time there, you'll understand Lloyd's frustration
and his other website www dot Lloydpie dot com. So
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Hi.
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starchildproject dot com and Lloydpie dot com. We're talking about
(19:17):
the starchild. Uh what do we call it? Starchild skull,
the how do you how do you talk to people
about it?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, you know, I call it that. Although it was
a mistake looking back on it, if there's one thing
I wish I had to do over it was naming
it the starchild, because that automatically slants it in the
direction of what we believe, and according to science, you
can't do that. You have to have just some neutral
thing that doesn't put any connotation on it. So unfortunately
(19:51):
it has the name starchild, and as soon as anybody
from the mainstream here's that, they run the other way,
screaming and tearing their hair out because they can't be
you know, associated within thing to do with UFOs or aliens,
or their peers won't take them seriously. So it's a
real problem. Notwithstanding the fact that initially we thought it
was a child, and we have found out subsequently that
(20:12):
it was a you know, we don't know how old
it was, but it was a fully grown adult, and
you know, just one of the early mistakes. That was
one of the things that one of the policies that
we had from the very beginning is we were going
to just tell the truth all the time, whatever the
testing said, whenever the testing said it, not hold things back,
just put it out there and let the chips fall
(20:35):
where they may. And here, like I said, here i
am eleven years later, having followed that policy the whole way,
having made mistakes. Obviously, there's no roadmap for something like this.
But in the end, the bottom line is that this
thing is a human alien hybrid, and we have the
we're in the position to be able to prove that
(20:55):
beyond any shadow of scientific doubt. All we need is
to find, you know, the deep pockets SuperH.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Wait a second, Hold on here, hold on here. You
just said that you're in possession of a human alien
hybrid and you can prove that absolutely, So how cow
can you say unequivocally, Lloyd, that you have an alien
human hybrid if it hasn't been authenticated and verified as such.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, it has been. That's the whole point in two
oh three. That's the result that we got from the
from the DNA testing that we had done.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Then by wait a second, Wait a second, If my
memory serves me correctly, with what we were saying in
the past hour was that it was its mother was human,
the identity or origin of its father was not identified yet.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Right, Well, it's it's not human, it's not primate. So
what does that leave. I mean, it isn't going to
be dog, it isn't going to be rabbit. Right, You
still can't get here it's alien.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You cannot say, all right, it may be alien to this,
to this planet, or to our species, but we don't
know for a fact that it's not from this planet.
And we don't know for a fact that if in fact,
it is alien from another world.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well that's yeah, okay, that is what we're intending to prove,
or want to prove, or will prove that it isn't
from this planet because the DNA as it unfolds. That's
the beauty of the four or five four life science technology,
which is the technology that we need. It allows for
the recovery of the entire genome of an unknown species.
(22:31):
And when I see the entire genome, that means in
the case of a human, all three billion based pairs. Now,
we and chimps and gorillas all have roughly the same
three billion based pairs. It's turning out that the Neanderthal,
for reasons that have not been explained yet, has substantially
more base pairs in a substantially larger genome than we have,
(22:54):
which is a bit of a mystery right now how
they're going to explain that. But the bottom line is,
whatever the star Child has, it's going to have. It
may have two billion, it may have three billion, it
may have five billion. Whatever it has, the technology is
available to recover all or most of it. And so
that's what we intend to do. And I'm telling you
(23:17):
that based on what we know now from the physiological differences,
which are very very consistently opposite from human and from
the DNA test that we had done, it indicates that
while this creature, whatever it was, came from, it was
born from an egg of a human being, just stated,
(23:39):
in a human being birth from a human being, what
was inside that egg was not human. And so that
can't be anything other than genetic engineering. Now, you can't
tell me, you know, a monkey or a rabbit or
anything else could have genetically Only an alien could do that.
An alien is we define an alien. So I am
(24:02):
able to say I think with a great deal of
certainty that it's going to be a human alien hybrid.
Now saying it to the level that I can prove
it in a court of law, which I can do now,
is not able to prove it in the court of
public opinion because science absolutely has a stranglehold on the
court of public opinion because of their stranglehold on the
(24:24):
mainstream media. So we can't really get mainstream media attention.
I'll tell you a quick story. We had a storyline.
We had an article lined up in the Daily Mail
in England when I was in Europe speaking earlier this year.
The Daily Mail is the largest paper in England, six
three million copies bought every day, six million readers every
(24:47):
day on average. Okay, so the Daily Mail, they're all excited.
It's wonderful. They've They've assigned one of their top science writers,
a PhD in biochemic in Biokim Mystry, to do the report,
so he would understand the DNA and all that. He
turns in his article. It's supposed to be published on
(25:08):
a Wednesday. It's turned in on Tuesday afternoon at two
o'clock before the deadline. Everything is fine up to that
point un till he turned the story in. And when
he turned the story in, which was quite complimentary in
saying I can't find any holes here, Suddenly the Daily
Mail did not publish it, and we had to apply
pressure on them to allow it ultimately to be published
(25:29):
just on a website there in England, but it never
was in the newspaper so that six million people could
read it. Somebody, somebody spiked that story. Somebody is making
this information difficult for me to get out there. That's
what I'm up against, because I think they know what
it is.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
If this was such a threat to the scientific community,
and if the scientific community has taken no interest in
it because they really don't want to. If it wasn't fact,
something from another world, and if it was something in
a fact that was a threat to them, wouldn't they
want to have it examined so that they could bury
(26:09):
the skull once and for all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, they certainly, I think, would try their very best
to detegrate whatever results that we got. But I think
what happened rob was it got away back in nineteen
ninety nine when there was no hope on any horizon
of being able to prove it beyond a shadow of
a doubt. There was no four or five four life science,
there was no recovery of entire genomes. So if based
(26:35):
on what they had to make a decision at that time,
they could let it go because there was no way
I was going to prove it beyond a scientific doubt
by simply physiological comparison, which is all that we had
at that time, and through and then later with the
(26:55):
DNA testing using primers, that was there was no way
I could do it. There was no way to prove
it so that no scientists could squawk about it, so
that I could cram it down all of their throats
and they'd have to smile. That is what can happen
now with the four or five four technology. Nobody at
that time could have conceived it, and now it's too late.
(27:18):
Everybody knows this, well, not everybody, but millions of people
know the star channel's out there. We've secured different pieces
of the bone in different places with different people, and
they don't know each other. So if they tried to
take it, you know, anything from anybody, everybody else goes
on alert. You see what I mean. So I think
we've pretty much got them. It's just will they can
(27:40):
slow us down, which they're doing. They're doing everything they
can to slow us down. Can't really stop us because
ultimately somebody, some person that they can't get to or
can't turn around? Is going to put up the money,
And when we put up the money, we will then
get our answer. And if we're able to film it
and all that, we'll make sure that there's no hanky
(28:01):
panky done to switch things around and make it come
out human and we will be in good shape. We
have this in the bag if we can just get
the help that we need to clear that final hurdle.
We've got it made.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
With millions of people around the world wanting to know
the answer. Why can't those millions of people each passing
a dollar and get the answers that everyone is seeking?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, because you know people, you'd think that would work,
but man put out you put out please for that
and people don't respond. I think everybody they know to
say they know about it, to know about the Star
Child and to say they believe what I believe about
it and what those of us you know on the
inside who've really studied it believe about it are two
(28:47):
different things. I've published an ebook about it. You might
as well mention this to your audience. If you go
on the Star Child site, you'll see an ebook Lloyd
Pie's Starchild Skull essentials. Now there is a book book.
There's a real book, a full book, the starch I'll skull.
You can read if you want to. But the ebook
has all of the facts stacked up high and tight
(29:10):
like cordwood. It's just fact after fact after fact after fact.
Anybody that reads that, even a skeptic, is going to
know this thing can't be human. I mean, it's just
no way. This is a deformity. They may not be
willing to go so far as to accept it as
a human alien hybrid, although the other there's no other option.
There's no other answer. That is what it is. Take
you by an hour to read it and you're done.
(29:31):
I mean, you know what this thing is about and
you can talk about it intelligently if you read the ebook.
That's what I would recommend to anybody that has any
doubts about it, that what I'm saying is one hundred
percent true because it is just simply read the e book.
It's all right there. Hold up for you.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Okay, you've got a great website, you've got a morephing animation.
You've got YouTube, so you've got videos. You've got the
entire nine yards at ww startell project dot com. It
surprises me that mainstream media, the scientific community as well
as the scholar community have not gone there, looked it
(30:13):
over and sent you an email saying you know what
this is? What that is?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Well, I know this is what everybody says. Rob They say, well,
look if what you have is real, if what you're
saying is true, science would be all over it. The
media would be all over it. No, they wouldn't. That's
what I thought they wouldn't. It's been there for years.
I've been trying for years. Larry King has has people
on his show all the time talking about Ufostan Stan
Freeman on all the time, regularly James Fox with his films,
(30:41):
and does he ever call me? No? Do I call?
Do I try to get in touch with him? Yes?
Do they ever answer my emails? No? Ellen DeGeneres, she's
another show where she'll have unusual people on. This is
what we'd genes from New Orleans. I'm from New Orleans.
Can I get through to Ellen Degeneresi's people know this,
get through to Oprah?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
No, this is what we'd like to do. This is
what we'd like to do. We'd like to take your
starchild information and using our resources see if we can
get scientists, museums and the media interested. If you're willing to.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Look, I invite you to try. All I get is
if it was if it was real, we'd already know
about it, all right, that was legitimate, We'd already know
about it. That's their answer to me, time and time again.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
All right, We're going to do that and whatever response
to try. Hey, listen, nothing gained, nothing lost, rightly, And
what we will do is we will make sure that
you get every ounce of reply that we get. And
what we'll also do is we'll put up a special
Star Child website on x on Radio TV dot com,
(31:43):
and we'll also post who we've sent it to, what
their response has been, and well, let these people know that, hey,
we want answers, and if you're not going to get
them to us one way, we'll get them another.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
There you go, Look, whatever you want to do, I'm
all for it. We've tried every way you can think
of and just been turned at every you know. And
also they're famous people out there. They're the UFO oriented
Steven Spielberg and something like that. They pay people to
Their job is to deflect people like me from getting
through to them. So if anybody listening knows how to
(32:16):
get with any of those celebrities that have high profiles
and are interested in this kind of thing, by all means,
let them know. I got through to dan Akrod who
would who more than him, got right through to his secretary.
She happened. I spoke with a lecture and its secretary
was sitting there, and she came up. She told me
she went to him. No, I didn't want to do it. It's
(32:38):
just it's unbelievable to me that so many people are
out there and who profess interest and desire to have
this done. But when it comes right down to something
like this, where the rubber really does meet the road,
you would be surprised at how scared they get, and
they back off and they crawfish out, and they don't
want anything to do with it, because it is a
(32:58):
scary thing to be involved in the changing of history
at a level that this has the potential to do. Well,
we'll see what we can do.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
We'll see what we can do with our clout that
we've gathered over the last nineteen years of doing this show.
Got to take our commercial break. We'll be back on
the other side as we continue talking to Lloydpie. The
website's are www dot Star Child Project dot com and
Lloydpie dot com. My name is Rob McConnell. This is
the Exony.
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(34:24):
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How and why were they built was the Titanic switch
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(34:45):
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Speaker 2 (35:02):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Everyone, Rob McConnell here, and I wanted to spend a
moment on Internet streaming. Everybody has heard about Internet streaming,
but not many know much about it. Did you know?
The Internet streams just about everything, from new releases to
old classics, almost every show, every episode, and much more.
But the question has always been how do you do it?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Now, thanks to the folks at one two three Ready TV,
I have the answer for you. They have developed a
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(35:47):
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About one two three Ready TV, visit our website at
www dot x bin dot net. Welcome back everyone. Lloyd
Pie is our special guest starchildproject dot com and Lloydpie
dot com. First of all, Lloyd is always great having
you on the show Man. You know, like you're one
of the hardest working guys that I know in this
(36:15):
in this genre, who has something that they believe to
be out of this world. And it seems that you're
getting blocked at every corner that you turn, and I
find it very frustrating for you, and this is why
we're willing to do whatever we can to help.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well. Listen, I appreciate it very much, and I think
that's why I'm thrust, you know, frustrated and parted at
every turn, is because it is the real thing, and
I think people know that, and when they see it
and deal with it and understand it, it's like who
wants You would think everybody would want to jump on
the bandwagon and be a part of it. But when
they think about it, I guess in the heart of
(36:50):
arts late at and I whatever, it's like that it's
just too scary. The change, the potential for change is
so dramatic and so overwhelming that they don't necessarily want
to be involved in it. That's all I can all
I can think, Llid, what.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Would you like to leave our listeners with this evening?
And what can what can they do as individuals around
the world to help, well.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
To help more than anything is just educate yourselves about
the starchild. Go to the website, please read, inform yourself.
If you can uh get the get the e book
or get the book. I would recommend the e book
just because it's it's simple and easy to get and read,
and it gives you a full understanding and that makes
you the smartest person in the room. When the subject
(37:34):
of UFOs and aliens comes up, and you know, you
may know somebody. You have a friend of a friend
who knows there is a deep pocket person out there
who will take this on as a challenge as something
that they want to have an answer to. They'll be
able to invest the money as a business proposition. It's
not just money down a rat hole. It's it's we'll
(37:56):
turn it into a documentary film that will earn the
money back. So it's a good deal. And I would
urge any and everybody to take a close look at it,
educate yourselves, and take it out into the world and
help me because I'm just you know, one guy and
a few radio shows, in TV shows and magazines and books.
It's not enough. I need help.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
What we've got here from one of my producers is
the website for people trying to help out you, Lloyd.
Help you out. Lloyd with a starchild is exonradiotv dot
com forward slash starchild and the email address is going
to be starchild at xonradiotv dot com. Thanks guys, Lloyd
will do what we can. I can't make you any promises,
(38:37):
but what I can promise you is that you've got
the resources that we've amasked here over the last nineteen
years doing the show. And if you can't help a
friend out, who can you help?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Absolutely, Rob and listen, we've been at this for a
long time together, you and I and I appreciate all
the effort that you've made in my behalf over the years,
and I will appreciate this too, and just you know,
keep me posted on anything that comes your way.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I will.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Lloyd, thank you very much and from our home to yours.
First of all, give your wife my best wishes. I
hope she's feeling better. And to you and your wife,
your friends and associates, a very merry Christmas and a happy, healthy,
prosperous and spiritually filled New Year.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Same to everyone out there listening in to you and yours.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Lloydpie ladies, a gentlemen, X own Nation www dot starchildproject
dot com. That's starchild project dot com and his website,
Lloydpie dot com. Send me your opinions. What do you
think the star child is? X Zone at Xzone Radio
TV dot com. I'll return on the other side of
(39:41):
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