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Master Lynn is the founder of the Master Shaw Tawse
Center in Toronto. She offers services throughout the Greater Toronto
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and counselor. Joining me now from Pickering, Ontario is Master
Lynn Nusina and Master Lynn.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Welcome to the exone, Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
How did you get involved with the Master Shaw and
the great work that he does.
Speaker 8 (04:04):
Well? A couple of reasons. One, I was suffering myself.
I had for most of my life had two physical
conditions of which I had found some relief but no
sort of satisfying our long lasting release. And that was
both asthma and Crohn's disease. And when I originally met
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Master Shaw, I was actually referred to him by somebody
that had heard him on the radio offering a remote healing.
He was on CFRB actually in Toronto, and my friend
who heard him received a wonderful healing for his back,
and so he recommended that I go and meet Master
Shaw in Toronto. That was in two thousand and three,
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which I did, and I received a wonderful healing from him,
and at the same time I realized that this was
someone that I really want with and that was in
March of two thousand and three.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
So what did your studies entail?
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Well, for many years, as you said in your introduction,
I had been in counseling. I had a practice and
work with lots of people from different walks of life,
and one of the consistent things that I noticed was
that people really had patterns of thought, patterns of behavior
that tended to repeat themselves. And you know, even with
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constant therapy, these patterns of behavior seemed to be really entrenched.
And so at the same time that I was observing
this in my work, I saw it also in the
corporate world. Because I was working with lots and lots
of people, I saw it in my own life. And
at the same time I realized that because I had
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always been interested in spirituality and studied quite a bit,
that it was really necessary for me anyway to look
beyond and the human experience, in the human condition and
understand more fully the spiritual context for everybody's life. And
when I realized that, I started to look for teachers,
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and so I was very very happy to meet Master Shaw,
who is not only very renowned now as an author
and soul healer across the world, but he himself comes
from a medical background, a doctor of Western medicine.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Is all right, Lynn, stand by you. We've got to
take our first break expondation x oonation. Our guest this
hour is Master Lynn Nessina and if you'd like to
visit her on Facebook, it's Facebook dot com dot Musina
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And for more information on doctor Shaw, is that his
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Welcome back everyone.
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Master linn Nesina is our special guest this hour on Facebook.
It's forward slash Nesina and that's ly n us y
Na And you can visit doctor Shaw's website at drsha
dot com. So what does it mean to be a
teacher and a healer? But a master teacher and healer?
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Thanks for asking, you know, it was something I certainly
didn't anticipate in my life. But when I started with
Master Shaw in two thousand and three, I was very
fortunate to be taught by him directly, and then some
years later in two thousand and seven, I was honored
to become one of his assistant teachers. All this time
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I considered I continued to work in the corporate world
and as a counselor, and then in two thousand and
nine I received the honor to become one of his disciples.
And in Eastern traditions that many of you may know
about on the line, when you become a disciple, you
can also so and often do, get appointed also as
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a master like the master that you're studying with. So
I was selected to be a master teacher. At that time,
we were called divine channels.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
So what does it mean to be a disciple of Master.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Shaw, Well, it means that I am an advanced student,
dedicated student, and many of the teachings that he has
received over the years, Although he's very public with his
knowledge and wisdom, but some of the higher level teachings
are actually given to those that are appointed as his
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master teachers and disciples. So we received some of the
higher level wisdom and also we are fortunate enough to
learn we'll call them the higher level techniques and services
that he offers, and he supports us to offer those
in turn ourselves.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Okay, so what are some of these advanced techniques that
you have the ability to either learn or to teach
or to use as a master.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Well, in this teaching, which is ancient wisdom and new wisdom,
one of the founding principal teachings is that you have
to heal the soul first and then the mind and
body will follow. So it's a truly I would call
it the true holistic approach to healing and transformation and rejuvenation,
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and holistic in the sense that a lot of techniques
incorporate energy and matter. Some talk about the mind. I
was trained as a cognitive counselor myself cognitive behavior, but
few really speak to the soul. And in Master Shaw's teaching,
he's saying that you work with the soul, you work
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with the mind and the body, and you have to
work with them all in order to achieve true healing
or true health.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Interesting, can you tell me about the soul reading and
soul communication that you do and how people can benefit
from consulting with you.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Well, I think I was always a very well call
it intuitive person, and of course I was trained in psychology,
so I've always worked well with people. I love to
serve people and help them to solve the issues in
their life. But when you open your spiritual channels, and
a lot of people know about spiritual channels, they mostly
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think about a third eye team being able to see
images from the soul world. But we also are always
receiving messages actually at the soul level, but we don't
always recognize them. So what Master Shaw has taught me
is how to access those spiritual channels or soul communication channels,
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including the third eye, and including other channels that can
help us to really people in a very special way
in that we're able to see and we're able to
hear through our channels what's really happening to that person.
And it also enables us not just to let's say,
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see with our third eye where there may be areas
of the body where there is some darkness, for instance.
Some people call that being a medical intuitive. But we
also then have access to what are called the akashak records,
which you may know about the listeners may know about
and the akashak records are really our soul history. So
when we look into someone's a kashak record, with their permission,
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we can see the cause or the antecedents of what
it is that they're suffering from today. So not everything
is located, let's say, in our one human lifetime. You know,
we have to look at the whole picture, which is
all the lifetimes.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Fascinating. Tell me about your book Bringing Spiritual Wisdom to
Your Daily Life work.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Well, I wrote that book or I flowed that book
some years ago, and it was really in response to
my own desire, which was to integrate my work life.
I was still working in the corporate world at that time.
With my spiritual journey, I didn't see where they had
to be separate. And in fact, we're one person. So
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everything that I was and that I am is reflected
in everything I do. But people often see them as
separate or different. So in the book Bringing Spiritual Wisdom
to Your Daily Life, I shared my own experience, plus
some practices, some insights, some teaching about how to actually
apply spiritual wisdom in the workplace, and it's been very
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successful for a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Would you say that there's a spiritual resurgence that is
happening in today's world.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
I see it, but I also, of course hope for
it because we are going through I think, a great
transition here on our dear mother Earth. And the more
people that can see and feel their way through their
spiritual journey, I think, the more hope that there is
for humanity.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
How has your spiritual path and your work with the
doctor Shaw, who I have a great amount of respect for.
I've had the pleasure of meeting them. How has it
changed your life?
Speaker 8 (15:31):
Well, I would say it's changed my life in so
many ways I can't even begin to count them, but
it's been I would say overall, like the culmination of
a dream. I think since I was a small child,
people used to ask me, you know, what do you
want to do? What do you want to be when
you grow up? And I always said I wanted to
help people. So of course I found ways to do
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that in my career, in my life by serving in
different ways. But bringing in the teachings that Mastershaw has
brought to Mother Earth have really foot let's say, plumped
it up. It's so full now that I can see
clearly how to really serve people and really help people.
So it makes my heart literally sing to be able
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to do that because Master Shaw's principal teaching is that
the purpose of life is to serve and to make
other people happier and healthier, and that's what I've always
wanted to do. So I'm so grateful to have met him.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
That's a wonderful philosophy.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yes, can you tell us about some of the changes
that you've seen yourself as a disciple of Master Shaw
with people that you've that you have been able to
heal spiritually, emotionally, and and how you've changed their world.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Well, first thought, I take no credit for anything that
has happened. I really see myself as Master Shaw's used
himself as a servant. You know that someone it is
a vehicle for this teaching, this wisdom, and these practices.
So it's our joy to serve people. But I've seen
many people, including myself. As I said, I had two
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conditions which easily could have shortened my life and came
close to more than once, and with Mastershaw's guidance and help,
I was able to prolong my life. Really, but I've
seen the same in many other people, and it is
just a joy to watch people to transform. And it's
also a joy to see people enjoying their lives and
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literally be happier and healthier. And I've seen many.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
How do you do it? How do you make these
changes in so many lives?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
What's the secret?
Speaker 8 (17:52):
Well, one of the things that we've taught right from
the beginning is that within each of us is the
power to heal ourselves. But like a lot of things,
you know, we have forgotten, you know, when we come
into our human life, it's like we get have amnesia
and we forget. We forget we're souls incarnate, we forget
and are no longer conscious of the fact that we
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have healing power within us. So one of the things
we do is we help to stimulate that healing power
within each and every person. So and we teach them
practices to heal themselves, and we also offer them, you know,
special blessings, healing practices to clear what are called the
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shenshiating blockages, which is the soul, heart, mind, and body
blockages that are keeping us from our health and happiness.
So it's not just our physical health, it could also
be our emotional wellbeing. Seen, many people come through depression,
for instance. With these practices sadness grief, I've seen people
become more successful in their business, in their careers. So
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it affects every aspect of ours life, so we train
people how to do that. We've also trained loads and
loads of people to become healers themselves so they can
offer this teaching to others and offer them healing blessings
as well. So it's not our power. We are literally
tapping into a power that exists, but we have largely
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as a species, as humanity, forgotten how to access this power.
But it is there, so that's really what we do.
I don't know if that explains it, but that's what's coming.
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
I'm sure it gives our listeners a greater idea of
the work that you do and the wonderful work that
doctor Shaw does as well as the many people who
follow doctor Shaw and are able to make a positive
difference in this world today, because I believe that if
you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
And there are so.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Many people today who use the ostriche syndrome and that's
when they stick their heads in the sand and the
rest of their body is a above the sin because
they feel if they can't be seen, then you know,
everything is okay. And you and I and everyone knows
that this is just one of the biggest falsities going around.
But in today's world that is so high tech, that
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is so inundated with data seven twenty four three sixty five,
I would imagine that one of the bigger problems that
you and doctor Shaw and the rest of the followers
that work with doctor Shaw see is the amount of
stress that is being put on people.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, I agree. I think people are subject to, you know,
the stress ores, let's say, of their own life. But
you know, we are all kind of media inculcated through
the media with so many negative messages and so much
well in fact negativity that's happening right here on mother Earth.
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I mean we just have to turn on the television
for a second to see that. So and having lived
the corporate life myself and work with loads and loads
of people in that environment, that the push, you know,
to do well, to achieve, to be successful is really
there for so many people, and there's just so many
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messages out there. I think that cause a lot of
stress for people. So, I mean we also I also
have been for many years teaching meditation practices, which is
teaching people how to clear the blockages within so that
they can relax more so that they can come to
a peaceful place.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Let's talk about meditation when we come back from this
news break and exp oanation. Lyn Nussinas are a very
special guest, and like I said, I've had the pleasure
of talking to doctor Shaw, meeting doctor Shaw, and I
would certainly suggest that you visit his website at Doctorshaw
dot com. That's d r s h a dot com,
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forward slash Lynn dot Messina and Lynn and I will
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Speaker 7 (23:31):
Welcome back every one. Lynn Nessina is our very special
guest this hour. We're talking about the work that she
does as a master teacher and healer with doctor and
Master gi Gang Shaw. For more information on Lynn, you
can visit her Facebook page at Facebook dot com, forward
slash Lynn dot Nessina and for more information on doctor
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Shaw and the worldwide work that he does d r
s h a dot com.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Lynn.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Before we went to the newsbreak, we were talking about meditation.
Tell us how meditation works and how people, whether they
believe they can meditate or not, can really try it out.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Well, I myself have studied more than one form of meditation,
and I think the one that people are most familiar
with is you know, you sit in a cross legged
position usually you know, using special hand positions, close your
eyes or use an object to focus on it could
be a candle or an image, and then you attempt
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to cry quiet your mind and you use a mantra
to do that. Most people are familiar with that kind
of meditation. What Mastershot teaches and what I share with
people in my workshops is a slightly different form of
meditation because in this teaching we use for power techniques.
One of them is actually the power of the mind,
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because it's the mind that takes us away from our piece.
You know, we keep thinking, regurgitating, ruminating, and so instead
of letting the mind take you away, we use the
mind to visualize. And you can use the mind to
visualize anything. So we teach people how to do that,
but we can use it for healing purposes. Let's say,
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you know, you want to heal a stomach condition or
a domino condition. You would focus on the abdomen and
see light there or a golden ball there. So we're
using our mind instead of letting our mind take us
away because we're going to constantly think. But we also
use body postures, which is called body power, which is
very similar. You know, sit in a comfortable position, put
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your hands in a special position for maximum benefit. And
we do use sound power because to chant a mantra
and just about any positive word can be a mantra
because there are words that carry let's say higher frequency,
higher vibration. One of those most people are familiar with
is own, but also the word love, the word light.
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They carry a positive high level vibration and frequency and
can be very healing. So with repetitive chanting, you can
really increase the benefit of the meditation by chanting aloud
or chanting silently. Chanting aloud is even better. And then
what we also incorporate in the meditation is we connect
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at the soul level. And that also differentiates the meditation
practice or the practices we do from other practices because
we're incorporating the soul. So it's very easy to actually
do this. And I've taught lost in lots of people,
as Master Shaw has, and one of the all we
teach essentially that what you chant is what you become.
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So if you chant love, then you are becoming more loving.
If you chan't heal me or bless bless my liver,
heal my liver, then we are chanting to bring healing
to the liver. So it's repetitive chanting and it's very
versatile and very powerful.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
What is the difference then, between meditation, chanting and prayer.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
I consider it a form of prayer. But a lot
of people don't like to use that term because it
sounds religious, and that's okay, But you know, it's we
are connecting still with the higher power or the power
of the soul. So we can separate that from religion
and say that's, you know, our spiritual journey or our
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soul journey. But to me, there really is no difference
in the sense that prayer. The only difference may be
that in prayer sometimes we ask for something and wish
to or think we will receive it. In this case,
we're asking what we're actually doing something actively to promote
it in our life, in our healing.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
All right, does that make it help me? Help me
understand that because I thought prayer. You you know, if
let's say a personer of a church is sick and
you get the congregation to pray, isn't that the same
thing that would be that you would be talking to.
Does religion really have a play in it or is
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it just a matter of words and semantics?
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Well, you know, I could say that's a matter of opinion.
Master Shaw would say that we respect all religions, which
we do, and all of us come from different religions.
I have a religious background myself, but we tend to
want to keep this we'll call it universal that this
applies to anybody of any religion, because it doesn't matter
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what your background is. It's really about love, it's really
about service, and you know, we're serving ourselves and serving
others at the same time. So it's a very special
kind of process or meditation which anybody can do, no
matter what your background. And I'll just give you an
example for instance. Okay, so I was talking about your liver,
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so we use that as an example. So in traditional
Chinese medicine, the liver is part of an element which
also includes the gallbladder and has a lot to do
with the emotion of anger. So when we chant to
heal our liver, so we could do a healing practice
to heal our liver, and we would incorporate the techniques
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that I was talking about, including the power of the soul.
And that's the difference in this kind of teaching, for instance.
And you can find a lot of this knowledge, and
that's your Shaw's books. For instance. I'm looking at one
of his books now called Soul Healing Miracles, and there's
a whole chart in here which is a five elements
chart and the wood element, which is one of the
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five elements, includes the liver, the gallbladder, the eyes, the tendance.
In the physical body, and in the emotional body. It's
the emotion of anger. So we want to heal and
balance that emotion. And we could say anger would affect
us in terms of maybe affecting us and that we
would find our liver or gallbladder week or if our
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liver or gallbladder is we may find ourselves becoming more
irritable or frustrated. They're all interconnected. So we use the
four power techniques. The first one is the body power.
So you would sit up straight and then you would
put one hand where your liver is, which is on
the right side of your body, just to the side
of your navel on the right hand side. And by
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putting your hand there, you're focusing your attention there. And
then we put our mind in that liver area as well,
so we look into our liver literally with our inner eye,
and we see a golden ball rotating in that liver.
That's the mind power, that's the body power. Then we
add the sound power to it, which is heal my liver,
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heal my liver or my liver. Heal yourself, heal yourself,
or you could say, my wood element, heal yourself. Then
we add to it the key, which is the soul power.
We connect to the soul of the liver. The liver
has a soul, it has a level of consciousness. So
we connect to the soul of the liver. So you
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put your hand there when palm, you visualize a golden
light ball there, and you chant these words. And first
of all I'll do an invocation. Then we can do
it together, so very quickly. Dear soul, heart, mind, and
body of my liver, you have the power to heal yourself.
Do a good job. Dear soul, heart, mind and body
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of the wood element. You have the power to heal
and to transform yourself. Do a good job. Thank you.
And then we chant together, heal my liver, heal my liver,
heal my liver. My liver heals itself. My liver heals itself.
The wood element heals itself, heal my liver, heal my liver,
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heal my liver. And as we are doing this and
visualizing this, if your third eye, your spiritual channels are open,
you could see this light increasing or radiating out from
your liver. You might also feel in your body a
tingling sensation or you feel heat. So you would do this,
I would say a minimum of ten minutes to really
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begin to feel some benefit from it, and then you
would continue to do that, and we would monitor you
as you do these practice to see how you're doing,
so we could recommend a whole kind of regime or
regimen for people to help to heal themselves. And when
you finish the practice, you say these words how how,
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which in Chinese means be well. You say thank you
three times, thanking your own soul, thanking divine, thanking all
the souls, and then you say gong song, gong song,
gong song, thanking the souls and asking them to return.
So that, in a very brief way, is an example
of a practice and a meditation simultaneously.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
How long does it take for the in this case,
the liver to get better.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
It will differ differ for different people, so it's hard
to say. You know, it could be shorter or long.
And we, of course we make no guarantees because we
know we are not promising anything, just like you know,
no practitioner can can promise anything because the person has
to do the work, you know, they have to do
the practices, and of course we're all subject to the
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blockages that we're caring from all these lifetimes, so we
have to understand if we've been carrying this blockage that
is now manifesting in our liver, you know, for five
hundred lifetimes, then they're also probably some lessons that we
need to learn at the same time. So this is
going on simultaneously. As we're teaching people how to heal,
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or we're offering them healing ourselves. We're helping them to
understand that this is part of their journey and to
get to receive some of the deeper wisdom about why
this is happening for them.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Are there any dangerous medical or emotional when it comes
to these here you are. You're helping these people overcome
something that the western medical practitioners cannot, and they believe
in their heart of hearts that by following the regiments
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and the chanting that you and the other members of
doctor Shaw's community suggest, what happens If it doesn't work,
how does this affect the person?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
It's just the same as any I think healing practice
doesn't matter what it is, you know, it's We're very
clear with people at the an end that we promise,
we don't promise anything that it's really you know, this
is between them, this is their part of their soul
journey and h and many people. You know, I'm one
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of those people that I still sometimes suffer the symptoms
of the conditions that I have. I don't consider myself
totally cured, but I continue to do the practices and
I'm still here on mother Earth. And also, just to
be clear, we always say to people, you know, have
you seen the doctor, have you got a medical diagnosis?
And if they don't, this is we really people do that.
(35:34):
You know, we're not diagnosticians, right exactly. And I'm not
a doctor and don't pretend.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
To be one.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
But doctor Shaw is a real doctor.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
He's a real doctor. Yes, he's a doctor of Western medicine.
He's also a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine. I'm not
you know, we have people from all kinds of professions
and backgrounds that do this work. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Do you think that that.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
We respect them all?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Do you think that western Western medicine is going to
start incorporating more and more and more of the holistic
New Age techniques that are practiced by so many people,
including doctor Shaw.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Well, my own observation tells me, yes that they already are.
You know, I have a medical doctor that I've gone
to here where I live. He's a wonderful man and
I respect him, and you know, sometimes you have to
go to the doctor. I broke my arm and I
went to the doctor so and he knows, you know,
the work that I'm doing, and he respects it. He
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doesn't say don't do it, he doesn't say I'm going
to do it, but he respects it. And he often
asks me, particularly about meditation and how to do that
and how that works for people. So I think some
of those things, particularly things like meditation, I think acupuncture
has been used by a lot of medical practitioners, people
that are Western medical doctors, and other forms of healing.
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I see reiki now being practiced in clinics and energy healing.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
All right, stand by, Lynn, you and I have to
take our final break x O Nation. Lynn Nussina is
our special guest this hour. Check her out on Facebook
at Lynn dot Musina and for more information on doctor Shaw,
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Speaker 6 (39:07):
Lynn, what would you say.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Some of the biggest challenges facing humanity are at this time.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
Well, you know, it was very fortunate in two thousand
and five to meet Master Shaw as one of his teachers,
Master Jichenguo, in China, and that question was asked of
him and he said, it's the biggest blockage for humanity
is that is pollution. And at first I thought he
meant physical or pollution of the air, and he said, no,
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it's the pollution of men's hearts. And that's always stuck
with me because I feel that is the biggest issue,
is that people are operating out of fear, they're operating
out of sadness. People have anger. I mean, you can
see it reflected all around us. But that statement of
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Master Glo's always touch my heart that basically what people
are suffering is a pollution of the heart. Our hearts
are closed to ourselves and to one another.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
But wouldn't it stand to reason that if there are
people who have gone through many lifetimes that they have
been burned, and they bring this, this this negativity with
them when they come back, not knowing that it is there.
So how do we bring to the attention of those
who have come back several several lifetimes that this is
(40:34):
the reason, and how do we get them to number
one accept it and number two change it.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Well, you know, we live in a multicultural society. And
now when I go out to teach, what I find
is I say to people, you know, how many people
here believe in reincarnation, and ninety percent of the people
put their hands up. And if I say, and what
do you think about karma? And ninety percent of the
people put their ends up. So I think it's become
(41:02):
part of kind of the public kind of lexicon. It's
out there. Most people don't know necessarily what it is
or how it is, they can talk about it and
understand how it is affecting their life. And that was
my issue too. I wanted to know more. So when
I met Master Shock, I got my explanations. I understand
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it better. So when I realized that, and in my
conscious mind anyway, that it was because of these lifetimes
that I'd spent on mother Earth that I was sitting
here today in a human body. But I was a soul.
I am a soul incarnate in a human body, and
I've lived all these lifetimes. So to understand that and
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to understand that I've accumulated let's say goodness and so
good stuff along the way on that journey. And so
I've got another opportunity this life to work with that.
And I think a lot of people know that in
their heart. They just don't know what to do with it.
They don't understand it, they don't know how to apply it,
or now what do I do with this knowledge? And
(42:07):
I think that's really Mester Shaw's bringing that in a
very simple way to humanity, and through us as teachers,
were very privileged to do that, and not only to
bring the wisdom and the teaching, but to actually give
people ways to deal with it. So once you know
you're carrying all these blockages, then now what do you
do with it? And when I met him, that was
(42:28):
the greatest revoluation was well, now I can do something
about it. And he taught us and that little practice
I did earlier with a small small sample of what
it is that we can share with people that can
really turn people's lives in another direction and really bring
them the health and happiness which is our goal.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
But how do we how do we show people that
this is not the only lifetime, that there's more to life,
that the soul lives on and on and on. It's
a wonderful come by us. But when push comes to shove,
people want to see proof. How do we get them
to that point or past that point?
Speaker 8 (43:09):
Sorry? Mestershaw has written a book called The Well. It's
written a new book it hasn't come out yet. It's
called The Dell of Science. And then there's another book
called Soul Over Matter, and another book that is about
science and it's really about marrying science and the soul,
called the Grand Unification Theory. So we'll see more of
(43:30):
this sort of in the press and in his books.
So he's very much aware that we have to marry
you know, science and spirituality. People want to see that.
You know, we just came out of an area era
where the mind dominated and science dominated. So yes, people
want evidence, but I find that the greatest evidence is
the experience of one's own life. And when you start
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to experience more love for number one, and you experience
more health and well being and you have this deeper understanding,
then that's the greatest evidence, is to experience it in
your life. We also have a foundation which is part
of Master Shaw's organization, which is a research foundation, and
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they're working on bringing research into this has done. The
people in this are medical practitioners themselves, so they're they're
trying to bring medical evidence of healing and transformation.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
There seems to be there seems to be.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
There seems to be many parallels between doctor Shaw and
his organization and scientology.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
I would say not, so why not from my experience,
not my experience of scientology, I mean scientology. My understanding
is based on a story of extraterrestrial experience Earth.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
Well, isn't isn't doctor Shaw's based on the ancient teachings?
Speaker 8 (45:04):
Well, it's based on I think the ancient teachings are there.
But I would say of all the teachings of Master Shaw,
and I can say that with fourteen years of being
with him and teaching with him, is based on number
one love more than anything else. It's about love. He
makes the statement, and I know it holds true for
him that love melts all blockages and transforms all life.
(45:27):
And as I said, you know when you asked me
what was the greatest issue on Mother Earth, it's that
people hearts are blocked, that we don't experience love. Because
when we experience love, then we start to open ourselves
and everything becomes possible, and all of those past lives
that we've lived has brought us here to Mother Earth
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at this time. And with these tools, these treasures, this
deeper understanding, we can move farther faster on our human
journey and our soul journey. So that's how I see it.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Okay, I understand this. I understand that, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
But it also sounds at times that what Doctor Shaw
has as the leader and then disciples is a para cult.
Speaker 8 (46:14):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (46:14):
What sort of para cult?
Speaker 7 (46:15):
A cult?
Speaker 8 (46:17):
Oh? Well, I would say not. I mean, I certainly
don't feel like I'm a part of a cult. I
feel like I have definitely free will and can do
whatever I want to do, and people have come and
go as part of this. There's no pressure, and I mean,
the proof I think is in the fact that people
are healing, people are transforming, people are living better and
(46:41):
happier lives because they know this wisdom and there's no
pressure on people to do anything. Do people entirely up
to people?
Speaker 7 (46:49):
Do the members have to pay anything into the organization?
Speaker 8 (46:53):
No, you don't have to. There are services that are offered,
there are events that are offered, workshops and just like
any other you know, organization or corporation offering teaching. You
honor for the teaching, and you honor for the consultation.
So people come to see me, then they're going to
honor for their consultation, just like when I was doing psychotherapy.
Speaker 7 (47:14):
All right, So when you're saying they honor it, they
pay for the service. Sure, okay, honor it's a nice
way of saying it. But let's get you know, let's
get down to basic facts here. It's a pay for
it's a service that is paid for well, of course, and.
Speaker 8 (47:33):
They have to be we all have to live our
lives right, and we also have to support, you know,
an organization which is a worldwide organization so that we
can teach this all over the world.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
But if you go to.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
A professional, a professional is held by a code of ethics.
A professional, a professional goes to school, they're tested, they
have to they have to meet the criteria set out
by their peers, and they are responsible for their actions.
Where as a member of doctor Shaw's organization, when you
do consulting or counseling or healing, you're bound by no
(48:06):
ethical ties or there's no responsibility to you whatsoever to
the client.
Speaker 8 (48:13):
Well, I don't think that's I don't consider that so.
I mean, I've been working with people for twenty plus
years and my goal has always been to serve people.
And you know, I wasn't bound by a professional code
as you put it. Nevertheless, you know I didn't have
to belong or get certified in certain ways, although I
have quite a few degrees to my name. But I
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think the code that binds us all is that we
truly want to serve people. We truly do. It's from
our hearts. And you know, we always were at whatever country,
whatever jurisdiction we're in, we always you know, are aware
of and abide by the laws the principles of that country,
that region, that organization, and it's ever in an issue.
Speaker 7 (49:00):
What would happen if somebody needed help but they couldn't
afford it.
Speaker 8 (49:06):
Oh, I've helped many people without money changing hands.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
Well, that's nice to know. That's really good to know.
We've got about a minute left.
Speaker 7 (49:15):
What are your final thoughts for the ex own nation tonight.
Speaker 8 (49:19):
Well, I would just say that the work that I'm
doing and the work that doctor Shaw is doing is
really about service. We have a part of our organization
that's called the Love Peace har Many Foundations, and we
literally work worldwide to serve humanity without an exchange of money.
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And so we have people that are serving literally all
over the world, and we want to continue to do
this because the number one goal of this work is
truly to serve other people, to help them to be
happier and healthier. That's our goal and I'm happy to
share that with everyone today. I thank you for the tinity.
Speaker 7 (50:00):
Lynn has been our pleasure.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
You take care of yourself Xnation. If you'd like to
find out.
Speaker 7 (50:04):
More about Lynn or doctor Shaw. First of all, Lynn's
information is just go to our Facebook page at facebook
dot com, forward slash Lynn dot Nessina and for doctor
Shaw www dot d r sha dot com. I'll be
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