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September 13, 2025 56 mins
Mark Anthony Psychic Explorer (also known as The Psychic Lawyer) is a fourth generation psychic medium who communicates with spirits. He is an Oxford-educated attorney licensed to practice law in Florida, Washington D.C., and before the United States Supreme Court.
This Psychic Explorer travels to mystical locations in remote corners of the world to examine Ancient Mysteries and Supernatural Phenomena. Mark appears nationwide on TV and Radio including CBS TV’s “The Doctors,” and Gaia TV’s “Beyond Belief with George Noory.” He is the co-host of “The Psychic and the Doc” on the Transformation Network. He is a featured speaker at conferences, expos and universities which include Brown, Columbia, Harvard and Yale. Mark Anthony is a columnist for “Best Holistic Life Magazine.” He is the author of The Afterlife Frequency. His other bestselling books are Never Letting Go and Evidence of Eternity.
Visit Mark’s website: www.AfterlifeFrequency.com


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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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peace in our bodies.

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and our boundaries have no change. We have a voice
that is calling telling your freemen we're with to show
them how to live in peace. But that's what Canada.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
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And welcome back to the xone every one. I am
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a great show we've got for you tonight, x Oonation.
My first guest tonight is a gentleman that I had
the pleasure and honor of calling a friend. His name

(04:18):
is Mark Anthony and he is also known as JD.
Psychic Explorer. He also is known as the Psychic Lawyer.
He is a fourth generation psychic medium who communicates with spirits.
He is an Oxford educated attorney licensed to practice in
the beautiful state of Florida, Washington, d C. And before
the United States Supreme Court. Mark travels to mystical locations

(04:40):
in remote corners of the world to examine ancient mysteries
and supernatural phenomenon. Join me now, is Mark Anthony, and Mark,
welcome back to the X Zone and to you, my friend,
and to all the great people that work with you,
a very happy new year.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Thank you, Rob.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
It's always an honor and a pleasure being on the
X Zone, So thank you and thank you to everyone
tuning into the X Zone.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Mark, what have you been up to? You're You're the
busiest person I know. Next to next year is truly
here of course.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
The last time you and I were talking, you had
so many dates that were that were booked, and you're
talking about the after like frequency, you're talking about psychic mediums,
you're talking about reincarnation. When did when does Mark Anthony rest?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well?

Speaker 6 (05:31):
I did take a week off between Christmas and New
Year's and it was great because I got to see
family and and that. But you know, Rob, I enjoy
I love what I do, and there's there's an expression
that when you love what you do every day, you're
on vacation. So even though it does require a lot

(05:51):
of effort, it does, you know, a lot of require
a lot of energy. I just absolutely love what I
do and I'm I'm starting a whole you U tour
and I've got two online events February fourteenth and fifteenth,
of which are online light circles limited to six people
each so everybody gets a reading. And then the following week,

(06:13):
between the twentieth and the twenty fourth of February, I
will be in Houston and you can get free tickets
to be on the Great Day Houston Show and see me.
There plus events a Body Mind and Soul. Those are
just a few of the things I have coming up.
So I invite everybody to visit my website afterlifefrequency dot
com and you know, we're scheduling a one on one

(06:36):
telephone skype breeding or skype readings as well. And I'm
going to be all over all over the US and
really exciting tour. I'm going to be in Sedona in
March at the Sedona Ascension Retreats, San Francisco, actually San Rafael,
which is just north of San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
In May, and that's just for starters. I got a
whole lineup this whole year mark.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
What was it that that happened in your life that
set you on this fascinating journey that you've been on
for so many years? When when you were a little guy,
did you ever think that you would be helping so
many people in so many different ways?

Speaker 6 (07:18):
You know, Rob, Nobody's ever really asked me that particular question.
But when I was a little kid, I always I
always liked helping people. And I remember when I was
in like fifth or sixth grade, there was a speaker
came to our classroom where I was at and he

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was asking, yes.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know, what do you think? You know? What do
you like to do?

Speaker 6 (07:46):
And I remember after listening to me, he said, you
like to help people that that's what you like to do,
and so so you know, whether it was in my
capacity as an attorney and now in my capacity as
a psychic medium and paranormal investigator, near death experience research

(08:06):
or ancient mysteries expert, I'm helping people in a lot
of ways, and to me, it's very humbling, it's very rewarding,
and to me, the greatest gift is giving giving back
to people.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Excell Xzone Nation. I guess this hour is Mark Anthony
and if you'd like to check out his website, it's
www dot afterlife frequency dot com. What is the afterlife frequency?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Mark?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
The afterlife frequency. Some people call it the other side,
some people call it heaven. It's the afterlife everything. From
quantum physics, we know that everything's made of molecules, which
in turn are made of atoms, which in turn or
made of electrons, protons and neutrons, which in turn are
made of the smallest particle of electromagnetic energy known as

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a quantum. That's where the term quantum physics comes from.
And the thing is rob everything in the material universe.
You me, the radio waves exones being transmitted on the
rings of Saturn, the light from the Sun and beyond.
Are all on the sub atomic level made of electromagnetic energy,

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and everything has its own everything vibrates at different frequencies.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
And so.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
One of my signature theories is the electromagnetic soul, which
is what we truly are, which is pure consciousness, a soul,
a spirit that is eternal electromagnetic energy. And so our
brain didn't create our soul. Our electromagnetic soul merely hosts it,

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much the way a computer hard drive hosts the programs
on it, but didn't create them. So when we die,
rob the electromagnetics all leaves the physical body and goes
to a higher vibration, which I call the afterlife frequency.
So it's another dimension which runs parallel to this one.

(10:12):
The best way to understand it it would be that
our world is AM radio and the afterlife frequency is
FM radio.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
And you, as a psychic medium, are able to tune
in both frequencies.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
Correct and it's it's really fascinating. It certainly is made
for an interesting life. And I think the divine power
that we call God every single day of my life
that I have been honored to inherit this ability to
help people connect with their loved ones and spirit.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
What was it like the first time, Mark, that you
sat down and were able to connect with someone on
the other side because you had someone on this side
that needed closure, that that needed that final goodbye. How
did that make you feel knowing that you, Mark Anthony

(11:11):
were playing such a pivotal part in somebody's life bringing
them closure.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
You know, Rob, It's been going on in my life
so long. You know, it started with me when I
was three and a half, and both my parents had
these abilities as well, and they could see who I
was interacting with.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
But the first time.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
That I, you know, in a in a quasi professional capacity,
it's it's an interesting story I was doing. I did
a connection for this woman whose son had died, and
he died from from an overdose and very painful for her,

(11:59):
and the tears just flowed from her eyes and I
could see the healing there. And afterwards we were talking.
And not too long before that, I had lost my
mother and I realized she was a mother who lost
a son and I was the son who lost a mother. Well,
spirits are fascinating and one of the other concepts that

(12:24):
I've developed is known as spiritual synchronicity and spirits can
influence a chain of events to guide us to be
in the right place at the right time. So probably
about a year and a half later, I was at
home and I was working on my irrigation system on
my front lawn and a sprinkler head had busted. So

(12:46):
a friend of mine was helping me, and of course
we didn't have the right sprinkler head, so we had
to go to the hardware store. And I live on
the Barrier Island in Florida, so we had to take
the bridge into town.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
We're going to have to have a bit of a
cliff hanger here because I do have to take my
first break, and I apologize.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
For okay, X all.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Next, Mark Anthony is our very special guests AT's our www.
Dot Afterlife Frequency dot Com, and Mark and I will
be back on the other side of the short break
as the X Zone continues with yours truly, Rob McConnell
here in the X Zone from our broadcast center and
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada, and you're listening to
us around the world on your hometown radio Classic twelve

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twenty c FAJ Here in Saint Catherines and streaming us
on Classic twelve twenty dot.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Can we have the.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
We're happy and contented, we have psinacions and I'm boundaries
have no change. We have a voice that is calling
telling Coffrey which.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
The legend lives on from the Chippewa home down the
Big League, they called get Chagoomy.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
The lake, it is said, never gets up for dead.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
When Skies of November turned gloomy, with the Lord of
Iron Ore twenty six thousand tons more than the Edmund
could still with empty, that good ship and true of
us upone to be chewed.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
When the Girls in November came early, the ship.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Was the brill Mark Anthony saw our special guest exornation
ww after Life Frequency dot Com and Mark, before we
went to the commercial break, we were talking about there
you were with a friend fixing your sprinkler system, and
of course, as all happens with us guys, apparently, and

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I'm a living testament to that, you didn't have the
right piece.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've got toolboxes full of screws and sprinkler parts,
but of course I didn't have the right one. So
I live on the Barrier Island, and I said well,
let's go to the hardware store. And so we went
over to the mainland and I said, you know, I
for some reason, I feel that we need to take
a different causeway, because there's a series of causeways that

(15:41):
run along run along the Barrier Island connecting us to
the mainland. And so we went over this other one,
and before we got to it, there was an art
show going on, and I said, well, let's check it out.
And you know, my friends like, why I go.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I don't know. I feel that we need to.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
So we get out and we're walking around and I
saw all these artists doing sidewalk chalk art, and I
felt drawn to this one woman and oh my god,
what she was drawing was so amazing. It looked like
a photograph and it was of a rainforest tree frog.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean, it was so beautiful.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Now, the funny thing is, while we were driving around town,
I kept hearing the Beatles song Hey Jude in my head,
and I kept humming, Hey Jude, and take a.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Sad song and make it better, you know. And and
you know, the Beatles are back in the news.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
They just want to Grammy Award fifty years after they
brought you know, broke up, which.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Is which is cool.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
So I'm humming this, you know, hey Jude. My friend's like,
what is it with you and this Beatles song? I said,
I don't know. I'm just getting this whole hey Jude thing.
So we pull off at this at this art show
and I'm walking around and I see this lady doing
this incredible sidewalk chalk art and I walk up to
her and I go, that is really amazing. And she
looks up at me and she goes, you're Mark Anthony,

(16:57):
aren't you? And I go, why do I know? She goes,
you did a reading for me about a year and
a half ago my son died, and also I remembered her,
and I said yes, and he came through and he
delivered a beautiful message to her, and she said, well,
here's my card so you can get in touch with me.

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And her name as an artist was Jude.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
And I know, and I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
And then I told her that and I said, you
take a sad song and make it better, and she
kind of, you know, tears came to her eyes, and
she explained to me that that's what she does do
because she was a caretaker her husband just had both
his legs amputated because of diabetes. She took care of

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her parents who died. Now she was taking care of him,
and through all of it, she made this incredible art.
And so when things like that happened, I mean, of
all the songs in the world that I'm humming, that
just come to my head is hey, Jude. And then
I am directed to take a different causeway home and

(18:12):
decide to stop at an art show and guided right
to this woman that was the spirit of her son.
And that's the beauty of spirit communication, because the thing is,
rob spirits are not here to harm us or frighten us.
They're here because they love us. And I was being
guided to her to give her a message that she

(18:33):
really needed from her son. And it gets even more intense.
Not only was her name Jude, but that day of
the art show, she said, well, I wasn't supposed to
be here. This was the last minute thing. And she said,
and this is the anniversary of the day my son died.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Holy Lord, I know.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
So it's like boy the boom by boom b boom
and yeah. And I sat down on the sidewalk next
to her and we talked for a while, and I
mean it was just when you look at coincidence, there's
no coincidence there. There were too many factors that had
to fall into the right place to put us in

(19:12):
the right place at the right time. So it was
just it was just such an honor to do that
for her. And this is what I love about about
making connections for people in spirit with their loved ones
here on planet Earth, because it does bring messages of love,

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healing and resolution.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
I can't believe all this, all the coincidences in that
story that you just shared with us. What are the odds?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Mark, Well, spirits are capable of seeing perceiving what we
call the future. And I was doing a reading for
this woman, and you get to realize my electromagnetic soul
theory has been adopted by a number of scientists, and
they said that my observations, my theories coincide with their

(20:08):
research in survival of consciousness after life and your death
experience research. And since the time of Albert Einstein, which
was right around the birth of quantum physics, you know,
we've had quantum physics now as a dedicated field of
study for over a century. And when we get back

(20:29):
to the quantum, these subatomic particles. Scientists since Einstein all
the way up to today theorized that on the quantum level,
time doesn't exist, and that everything that has happened, is happening,
will happen, is occurring simultaneously. And people tell me, well,
that's really hard to wrap my head around. And I said, well, yeah,

(20:50):
did take Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Louis de Brogley, Niels Bohr,
Malava Einstein to figure all this out? Okay, I mean
this is this is about as intense as it gets.
So I'm doing a reading for this woman and her
mother's spirit comes through and says, take my grandson to
the eye doctor. And the client said, well, I don't

(21:12):
have a son, but I have a nephew, my sister's son,
and he's been complaining about his eyesight. He's seven years old.
I say, okay, well, I guess your mother's spirit wants
you to take this little boy to the eye doctor.
I said, And now she's giving me a song. I
get a lot of songs, you know, among other things,
but I start getting touty fruity al rudy by little Richard.

(21:35):
Remember that song touty frudy, ah rudy. So I'm saying
it to her and she's, you know, you know, looking
at me like I got six heads. And she goes, well,
I know who Little Richard was, but it doesn't make
any sense. I go, well, that's what I'm getting. Well,
two weeks later she sends me an email and she said,
I called my sister and said, we got to take
your seven year old son to the eye doctor. The

(21:55):
mom's spirit said so, and her sister said, well, let's
do it because he's been complaining of headaches and he
says he can't really read his homework. So my client,
her sister, and the little boy they go to the
eye doctor. And she said, as soon as we walked
into the doctor's office, on the radio, it starts playing

(22:15):
touty fruity alrudy by Little Richard, and it's a cool story.
But then I started looking at it from the electromagnetic
soul perspective. Radio waves are part of the electro magnetic spectrum,
So what was going on there is the mom was saying, okay,
take take my grandson to the eye doctor. And because

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the electromagnetic soul is part of the em spectrum we
all are she is, they're moving at a much higher vibration,
and they're able to perceive what we call the future.
To let her know that she was in the right
place at the right time, she projected to me the

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very song that would be playing two weeks from that time,
the moment they walked into the doctor's office. And so
when you start looking at spirit communication through the filter
not just the faith, but also through science and quantum physics,
and it is really fascinating.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Especially since there are so many radio stations in any
given market AM FM, and then you've got the different
audio platforms now on the Internet, satellite radio to home
in on that specific station at that specific time to
that specific song, and being in the industry, I know

(23:45):
how many different hoops had to be jumped through in
order to make that happen.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
And it's like, oh my god, yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
It's just astounding the things that come through and spirits.
It's really fascinating how they can give us medical information.
I always caution people when a spirit. If I'm doing
a reading for you and a spirit brings up a
medical issue that you're dealing with, people say, well, how
do they know that? Once again, they're em energy and

(24:19):
they're able to scan your body and they pick up
energetic anomalies and problems and they'll they'll call it to
to you know, my attention. They may bring up treatments.
Now I always caution people that doesn't mean start doing
the treatment. You clear everything with your doctor first. They
may be bringing up a treatment because they're trying to

(24:40):
caution you this is not the right treatment. There may
be a better one, and I think you know, so
you always have to be careful about jumping to conclusions
when when spirits give us future events, that's you know,
and that's just out of a bunch of caution. Plus

(25:01):
that's where my legal background comes in about you've got
to be careful about jumping to conclusions when you're dealing
with medical that's being transmitted by a spirit. Now, most
of the time what we're getting we're interpreting properly, but
they could be trying to warn you that, no, this

(25:21):
isn't the right treatment, there's a better one. And I've
had a number of incidents where that's happened as well.
So spirit communication it helps people understand that someone you
loved so much who died did not just disintegrate, but
instead they live on as an immortal, living spirit, and

(25:42):
that your relationship with that person has gone from one
of a physical nature to one of a spiritual nature.
So even though the body may no longer function, who
we are still does.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
So what you're saying, Mark, if I understand you correctly,
is that the spirit, when you're talking about the medical aspect,
does because they are a frequency within the electromagnetic realm,
they can actually look at us as an MRI and
relate that information to you precisely.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I was doing a session for this gentleman recently, and
when it was over, he said, I got to tell
you something. I said, what said a year ago you
did a reading for my wife and her mother who
passed came through and said that our son, we need
to get him into the doctor right away because there

(26:41):
is a congenital defect of his heart and unless the
doctors specifically scanned for it, nobody will know. And he said,
we just got back from the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio
where my son had open heart surgery, and he said
that when we brought him to the doctor and said

(27:03):
you need to scan for a congenital little defect, they did,
and the doctor said, how in the world did you
know to look for this? Because unless we were specifically
looking for this, we never would have found it. And
if he doesn't get the surgery, he'll die.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
All right, Mark, standby, We've got to take our break.
X O Nation. Mark Anthony is our special guest www
dot after Life Frequency dot com and Mark and I
will be back after this short pause for a good
cause here on the X one with yours truly, Rob
McConnell from our broadcast center in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada.
And you're listening to us on the x OON Broadcast

(27:40):
Network and your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty c FAJ
in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, streaming us around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Hello, it's too rough to feed you. That's seven emin hatswig,

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I see you.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
He'dn it.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Then it time that I say, really I love you.
But I know this a way.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
That you consider I love it that.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
You done at the time, So I'm.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Trying to conceive that so you can read my mind.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I loved really bad.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
See baby, they wus they can.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Love Mark Conthany's my guest to this outworks donation www
dot afterlife frequency dot com mark Where does reincarnation fit
into the the frequencies and the afterlife frequency.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
When we die, think of your soul as a drop water,
and when it leaves the body, the electromagnetic soul plunges
into what I call the collective consciousness, like the eternal
sea of souls. That's the afterlife frequency. And there's different
frequencies in there now. For people have a near death experience,
that that that drop of water bounces back and the

(29:42):
return to their body.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
But that's another that's another show. That's another episode.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
But with reincarnation, what happens is the e MS goes
to another dimension and then eventually it recycles, if you will,
in to a new host, meaning a fetus. And so
the electromagnetic soul provides the scientific basis for a whole

(30:12):
array of spiritual phenomenon. It explains mediumship first off, the
existence of the soul in an afterlife. It explains the
reality of spirit communication. It explains how near death experiences,
deathbed visions, out of body experiences, and reincarnation is possible

(30:34):
because our electromagnetic soul is a coherent quantum field. Basically,
when you die, you take you with you, but when
you reattach to a new host, there seems to be
for the most part, the memories of the prior life
are not immediately accessible by the human brain. However, there

(30:57):
are many exceptions, and there's a lot of what's known
as court case of the reincarnation type where children, especially
young children, start recalling details of prior lives. And there's
two ways robbed that people can.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Remember a prior life.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
One is court, which is memories that usually a child
has and they start talking about a prior life. Then
there's PLR Past life regression therapy, and that's a form
of that's hypnosis where a if you're going to do PLR,
please go to a licensed and a certified hypnotherapist. It

(31:41):
has to be done under proper clinical conditions. And through
the PLR therapy you can go into and you apparently
get past that barrier, that veil that your brain keeps
you from accessing prior memories from prior lives, and you
will go in to and start to access memories from

(32:03):
prior incarnations.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Okay, so what you said something about attaching to a
host a new host. It seems like there's a little
bit of science fiction that is actually turning into reality here.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
It does appear that way, and it's easy for people
to scoff at this. They say, oh, there's no proof
of reincarnation, O contrere. But there is, I mean so
many documented cases. And now at the University of Virginia,
the Department of Professional excuse Me, the Department of excuse Me,

(32:39):
the Division of Perceptual Studies Division of Perceptual Studies at
the University of Virginia. Since the nineteen seventies, doctor Ian
Stevenson founded that department and began to study cases of
the reincarnation type with children, lying the scientific method. Since

(33:02):
he's passed on, doctor James Tucker has stepped into into
that role and their findings are incredibly impressive. Now it's
not just here in the United States, I mean, it's
other countries where reincarnation has been studied. India is really
fascinating because reincarnation is a basic tenet of Hinduism and Jainism,

(33:25):
which are Hinduism certainly is the main religion of India,
and Jainism is another religion unique to India, which also
embraces reincarnation, and the Indians have been studying and documenting
cases of reincarnation for the past five thousand years.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
So how does how does how does reincarnation fit into
the religious philosophies the main religious philosophies i'mc outside of Hinduism,
For example, in the Bible.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Are there cases?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Are there? Is there evidence of reincarnation within the Bible?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yes, there is.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
And it's funny because I was looking on the internet
the other day and they said the scripture is against reincarnation,
and it's like, yeah, no, it isn't. There are a
number of areas in the Bible, one of which one
of my favorite and one of the most studied passages

(34:29):
is Genesis twenty eight, verses ten through twelve, what's known
as Jacob's Ladder right, And yeah, Jacob, he said, out
sets out for Bearsheba, and he lays down, puts his
head on a pillow, and he has this dream in
which he saw a stairway resting on the earth with
its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God

(34:50):
were ascending and descending on it. And when he awoke
from his sleep, he thought, surely the Lord is in
this place, and I was not aware of it, and
that this is the house of God, this is the
gate of Heaven.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
So it's kind of cool.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
So, you know, three thousand years before led Zeppelin, we
have the original steroid heaven, but a lot. Jacob's Ladder
is one of the most studied passages in scripture, and
one of the interpretations is that it's a metaphor for reincarnation,
that the cycle of descending into human life followed by

(35:26):
assent into spiritual life, followed by a return to human life.
In other words, the angels leaving heaven, going down the ladder,
and then turning around and going back up. And so
Jacob's Ladder is considered a metaphor for reincarnation. But it
gets even better rob when we fast forward into the
New Testament to what is known as the Transfiguration, which

(35:50):
is found in Matthew seventeen, Mark nine and Luke nine.
Jesus takes a select group of apostles that says Peter, James,
and John.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
They go to the top of a mountain and all of.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
A sudden, Jesus begins to glow white, and their mist
forms around them, and the spirits of Moses and Elijah
appear on either side of him. Well understandably, so the
disciples are rather freaked out. Ye, And when this is over,
they're going down the mountain. And Jesus says, look, don't

(36:23):
tell anyone what you have seen until the Son of
Man has been raised from the dead. And the disciples
asked him, why then do the teachers of the laws
say that Elijah must come first? And Jesus replied, to
be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. But
I tell you, Elishah has already come, and they did

(36:43):
not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
In the same way.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
The Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.
Then the scripture says, then the disciples understood that he
was talking to them about John the Baptist.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Let's look at that for a second.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Prophet Elijah lived eight hundred years before Jesus, And what
Jesus is telling them is Elijah came, and basically he
appeared in the form of John the Baptist. John the
Baptist was Jesus's first cousin, and John the Baptist was
executed by order of Herod Antipas, who has Herod the

(37:22):
Great son.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's a whole nother story, all right. So basically what
Jesus is saying here is John the Baptist.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Was Elijah in a prior life. At least this is
what progressive Christians interpret this as Hindus Buddhist.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Jane's all zero in on the.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Transfiguration as very possibly one of the passages in the
Bible which was not about reincarnation, which was not edited out.
So yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Could we also look at Mother Nature and the way
of the four seasons could be a very simplistic way
of trying to explain reincarnation.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
It certainly is a fascinating if.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
I mean, because you have spring where life begins, Summer
where life flourishes, Autumn where there's the decline of life,
and then winter is death, and then the cycle continues, Yes,
an an unending cycle. We also know from the laws
of quantum physics, the second law of thermodynamics, that energy

(38:33):
is neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form
to another, and even quantum physicists like doctor Michio Kaku
said eternal life does not violate the laws of physics.
So there's a lot of scientists who are looking at
this saying, well, how do.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You explain some of these things? How much time do
we have before the next break?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Two minutes?

Speaker 6 (39:00):
Okay, how about when we come back, I'll give us
a reincarnation story and.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
We'll take it from there.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Well, let me ask you a quick question that I'm
sure that we'll be able to answer within the minute
and fifty seconds we have. Now, where do you see
AI when it comes to helping solve some of the
mysteries that you have been delving into for many years.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
That is a fascinating question.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
I think AI is going to be fantastic when it
comes to medical diagnoses, when it comes to the metaphysical
and the spiritual that remains to be seen.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
And if AI.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Actually starts taking and drawing upon all the research that's there,
it could at least come to or draw hypothesis that
this could theoretically be a case of reincarnation as opposed
to oh, this kid's making it up.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
There's a lot of great things that we have in
this world yet to even fathom. And I will often
wonder mark how different the Bible would have been written
if the events of those many years ago happened today.
How different theology would be how different religion.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Yeah, it would be very different, because it is believed
that in the early Christian era there was a theologian
in Alexandria, Egypt, which at the time was Christian, wrote
Origins and it was origin of Alexandria, that we go
through even Satan can emerge from the pit to be

(40:40):
with God, and that we go through a succession of
lifetimes until we ascend to this higher frequency. And then
a couple hundred years after him, in the sixth century,
at the Fifth Ecumenical Council of Constantinople modern day Istanbul,
which at the time was the capital of the Roman Empire,
the Fifth Ecumenical Council banned reincarnation is heresy.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
You and I have to take our final break, My
good friend, please stand by and does always Mark, thank
you so much for sharing your time with us here
on the X Zone. It's always appreciated.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Mark and I will be back as we wrap up
this first hour here in the X Zone. And if
you'd like to find out more about Mark, it's very simple.
It's got a great website. You'll be able to find
out where he's going to be appearing hopefully in an
area near you. His website is afterlife frequency dot Com.
I'm Rob McConnell. This is the X Zone, and Mark
and I return as we wrap up this first hour.

(41:34):
Don't go away.

Speaker 8 (42:10):
I want to know where my comforts were one day all.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I'm lie in.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
A hotel to my bice, next story mine where they
times act that time first O get home? So but
the lacks bottles with exporation, lil percy.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Where I want, I don't can't stand, but I don't learn.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Let swear my su.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
My suit, my suit, and welcome back every one. Mark
Anthony is our special guest and Mark's website is afterlife
frequency dot Com. Mark, before we went to the break,
we kind of cut it short, and you had a
story that you wanted to share with us.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Certainly, there's two ways people can remember past lives. One
is where children start to recall them, and that's called
a court gort case of the reincarnation type. Then there's
past life regression therapy PLR, where someone's hypnotized and taken
back to prior lives. Well on my show The Psychic

(43:38):
in the Doc which is every Thursday at four pm
Pacific seven pm Eastern We had a guest on who
was a former Indiana Police Department captain of the Homicide
Division of Indianapolis, And in nineteen ninety two, this captain

(44:00):
met a hypnotherapist to use Past life progression therapy, and
that is used to treat people with mental or physical
pain with no discernible cause, and the patient is hypnotized
rob with the objective of going into a past life
to discover the basis of the pain. And Robert snow
he scoffed at PLR as goofy people trying to find

(44:22):
a way to blame their problems on someone else in
another lifetime. And the therapist said, well, why don't you
try it?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I challenge you.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Okay, Well, when you challenge an Indianapolis police chief, he said, okay, Well,
all of a sudden during the PLR session, he goes
into three prior lifetimes and it's cool. The way he
described it says, like a theme park ride. He could see, smell,

(44:52):
feel here, and taste things while traveling through another lifetime.
In case, three different lifetimes, one of which he was
a woman. Okay, now that is not exactly what this
tough guy, big bruiser police you know Captain expected, but
it was the most recent lifetime that was the game changer.

(45:13):
Suddenly he saw himself on a cobblestone's street, horses and buggies,
and it said to him, it looked like the late
eighteen hundreds. There were lampposts that were gaslit. And he
went through a window into this look like a mansion

(45:34):
and he saw himself as an artist, a male artist,
painting a portrait. Get this rob of a hunchback woman.
And he said it came into his head that I
hate painting portraits, but I need the money. And he said,
I feel connected to France, but I died somewhere else,
in some big city. So when he came out of this,

(45:57):
he was intrigued. Now, this was back in nineteen teen
ninety two and the Internet wasn't available for public use
at that time. So he started looking everywhere for portraits
of a hunchback lady. Couldn't find anything. It went to
all these libraries. So but it was driving him nuts.
He said, I got to find this out, because why

(46:17):
am I thinking this? So his wife said, well, can
we go on vacation to New Orleans? So they go
to New Orleans and while perusing an art gallery in
the French Quarter. Robert suddenly froze. Before him on an
easel was the portrait of the hunchback Woman, and he said,

(46:42):
this is impossible, how can this be okay? So now
he's turning into the cop and he said, and thirty
eight years of police work, nothing shocked him like this.
And the gallery owner explained that the artist's name was
Jay Carroll Beckwith. He was born in eighteen fifty two
and died in nineteen seventeen. He was American that spent
a lot of time in France. So Robert's investigation led

(47:05):
him to New York City, the Big city where Jay
Carroll Beckwick died, and he went to the National Academy
of Design, which kept records on artists, and he found
Jay Carroll Beckwi's diaries on microfilm.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
And apparently.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
His prior incarnation was just as meticulous as he was,
because his diary was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Thousand pages long.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Yeah, Robert poured over the diaries and verified every one
of the details he saw in his past life progression
therapy as true, and he discovered beck With typically painted portraits,
created no masterpieces and wasn't famous. Now I think his

(47:56):
credibility is bolstered, because why would you think I was
an artist that didn't create masterpieces. I wasn't famous. My
career basically went nowhere. If he went around saying he
was Michelangelo or Monet or Picasso, that would be a
whole different story instead of an obscure, unknown portrait artist.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
I always thought that was a pretty fascinating case.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
It certainly is, And something just crossed my mind when
you're telling me that's sharing that story with us, Mark,
is it possible, Well, this is a stretch. I don't
even know where this came from, to be honest with you,
Is it possible that reincarnation could explain some of the

(48:41):
transgenderism that we're seeing today.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, it is an interesting thought. It's a very interesting thought,
you know, because the transgendered people that I've interacted with
and talked to, I'm convinced that this is a real phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
And you know, they just believe that they're in the
wrong body.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Yes, exactly, Yeah, so it is.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
It is entirely possible. You know, as a psychic medium,
a paranormal investigator, a near death experience researcher, let me
answer the question like this suffice it to say, I
will keep an open mind, because when you're studying these
type of things, you have to have an open mind.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
You know when people say, well, I'm a skeptic, I
don't believe that. No, that's not a skeptic. That's a cynic.
A skeptic may not believe in something, but a skeptic
is open to persuasion through credible evidence.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
It certainly would explain a few things, like I've had
the opportunity of speaking to members of the transgender community,
and you're right, the story is always the same, that
they were in the wrong body. And to persecute these
people because.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Of it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
It is it is, And who's going to volve you know,
who's going to say and say that and put themselves
through all of that if it wasn't true. Oh, I think, well,
it's it's it's like when when people say, well, you know,
gay people choose this, right, the gay people I've talked to,
it's like, choose this.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
That's how I'm wired.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
Okay, Yeah, I'm going to choose a lifestyle that my
parents are going to reject me, my religion is going
to condemn me, My friends are going to cast me out.
I can lose my job, be discriminated against. Yeah, that
really sounds great.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Where do I sign?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (50:38):
It's like and and with transgendered people it's even more intense, yes.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
What they go through.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
So part of being spiritual, part of being embracing christ
consciousness is having compassion. You may not understand other people,
but because you understand don't understand them, doesn't mean you
should fear them much less persecute them.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Nobody deserves persecution, nobody, No.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Nobody does.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Mark. What's in the future? What's in your future?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Mark?

Speaker 5 (51:14):
You've talked about other people's, but what about you. You've
got all these US dates that you're going to be
going on and seeing people across the United States. Any
new books coming up?

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Well, I was very honored. I was just voted Visionary
of the Year by Best Holistic Life magazine and they're
going to feature a special edition in the June edition.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
With me on the cover.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
And I was just very overwhelmed when when that happened
and I was notified that I have been designated a
Notable Graduate of the Arthur Finley College for the Advancement
of Psychic Science, in England and that was recently awarded
Honoree status for the Spiritual Awakenings Circle of Honor. And

(52:08):
just yesterday Helping Parents Heal, which is a beautiful organization,
asked me to be on their board of Directors, and so,
I mean, I'm just very humbled that my work is
touching so many people.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
And I'm going to be.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
In Houston at Body Mind and Soul and on Great
Day Houston in two weeks and then in March at
the Sedonacension Retreats. I'm one of the keynote speakers for
the fiftieth anniversary of the International Association Preneer Desk Studies.
In August, I'll be speaking at the Omega Institute in October,

(52:50):
and in November at the Mediumships Summit at Edgar Casey
Association for Research and Enlightenment. And there's probably other venues
And if I've forget anybody, I'm really sorry. But I'll
be doing a lot of traveling and I am always
working on my fourth book. But in the meantime I
do write for Best Holistic Life magazine. And you can

(53:11):
find out about all of these things by visiting my
website afterlifefrequency dot com. And certainly I do one on
one readings for people. You can find out about that
on my website as well.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Mark, We've got to say so long for tonight. I
do want to thank you so much for joining us.
Safe travels, my friend, and I look forward to the
next time you and I meet back here in the
X Zone.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
Absolutely, Rob, you have a great night, so all the
listeners thank you for tuning in to the X Zone.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Good night, Mark night, Xcell Nation. I'll be back on
the other side of this break as our Number two
starts momentarily here in the X Zone on the X
Zone Broadcast Network and your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty
c FAJ in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada streaming Classic twelve
twenty dot CA.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
We're ready for tomorrow. We have faith in our children,
for our futures in their hands. We have a voice.
This is calling telling us the King on the home
for time will make this wild. I am great and
that's what Canada is.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Canada is the most contains. Canada is green sap Canada,
the country for Canada, all our collects. Canada is the
cold Canada, the country.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
We have peace in our bodies.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
We're happy and contented. We have peace in our sibans
and our boundaries have no change. We have a voice
to is calling, telling all freemen We're willing to still
them how to live in the past.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
But that's what Canada is.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
And is the Rocky Mountains.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Canada is Prince Sanborn Island. Canadas is the county be for.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Canada is a place.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Canada East is Confina. Canada Games is.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
The cond taper.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
The Canada is the Rockey Mountains.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Canada is Prince Sanborn.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Island, Canada. It's the county map. Now Canada piece of
a place.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Canada is the East combineand Canada game is

Speaker 3 (55:47):
The count table, the
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