October 5, 2025 • 54 mins
Golden Dragon Sound & Reiki are Shelly Jensen and Mark Stevens. Shelly and Mark are Master Reiki practitioners trained in Holy Fire Reiki, Karuna Reiki, and Dragon Fire Healing. In addition, Shelly and Mark are gifted sound healers, utilizing a variety of sound healing instruments including their own proprietary tuning forks, crystal and Himalayan singing bowls, native flutes and drums, handpans, tongue drums, gongs, and more.
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three FM x Oonation. My first guests tonight are Mark
Stevens and Shelley Jensen. We're gonna be talking about sound
healing and reiki therapy's intuitive readings and a custom tuning forks.
Joining me now from Twin Falls, Idaho are Mark and
Shelley and hey, guys, welcome to the XON. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, we're super excited to be here.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
All right, now, first of all, welcome, great having you
guys too, and tell us a little bit about yourself ladies. First,
So Shelley, how did you start your question and how
did you get into sound healing, reiki, intuitive readings, and
custom tuning forks.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Wow, that's a loaded question. So it's really been an evolution.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Probably during my college years, which was a while ago,
I took a course called Religions of the World.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
That really opened my mind.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I was grew up in a Christian household and you know,
didn't have a lot of exposure to other things, and
that started my journey. And as I went along later
on getting into some of the New Age things and
crystals and all those fun things, I was introduced to
tuning forks.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
And I was instantly in love and wanted to know
more and it just kind of snowballed from there.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
And once I was an in Tbetan shop and saw
Tibetan bulls which were fascinating and really thought, wow, this
is this is really cool stuff and things I haven't
been exposed to before.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
So that's really what started my journey.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And Steven, how about you? What started your journey and
how did you get where you are today?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Actually I kind of have my wife to think. So
my brief background, I studied history in college. I'm George
Mason grad and was big into Asian religion and history.
I was a Burmese martial artist for a long time,
and so I really kind of appreciated all those things.
And so when Shelley learned about Tibetan singing bowls after
(03:58):
after we started dating, she introduced them to me. And
I'm a former bass player, so music and those sorts
of things were really appealing to me, and Tibetan singing
bulls were just fascinating. I just loved them immediately and
started amassing and collecting them. And they've just got such
a great sound and therapeutic vibe to them, and one
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thing kind of snowballed the other before we knew what
we were buying. Instruments of various sorts and doing sound
bass and sound therapy and reiki became a part of that,
and yeah, it's been an amazing journey.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I can just hear it now when you were you
and Shelley were dating, you know, and did she say,
all right, big boy, come on over to my house
and listen to my bulls.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Yeah it's almost that cool.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Really, eh, super No, I've had the occasion to listen
to the bulls and they are fascinating. I love them.
I love them. I love the tunes and the pitches
and the vibrations and the frequencies. Isn't that what life
is all about, vibration and frequency.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, it's all about sound and frequency as a matter
of fact, because we all that's what we're.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
All made of.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
And I think that's what's so great about sound healing
is that our bodies naturally just vibrate to that music.
It's why most people love it. And when we're in
that state of high vibration, we can heal. And that's
the magical part about sound.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, Shelley, you may not remember this, and I'm
sure Mark you don't remember this, but way back when
in the sixties, there was a group called the hippies.
You may have read about them in the history books,
and that's what they were all about was music, vibrations,
you know, and they I believe that this is where
the New Age actually was born in hate Ashbury and
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hippie communes around the world. You know, they knew what
music was all about.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
In fact, singing bowls can pay homage to the sixties.
There was a gentleman by the name of Frank Perry
who played in bands in the sixties. He was a
percussionist and he really took to New Age and therapy
and singing bowls. Uh, and really, uh, he's become kind
of an expert on the subject. He's uh, he's written
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a book or two about him, and he's he's just
a fascinating guy.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
He really made a big thing at him.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I think he played for uh black Cat Bones was
his was his band, and anyway, he became deeply interested in.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Them and and has been a real leader in that
in that space.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what is the history behind singing bulls.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Uh, it's they're fascinating. They're they're certainly hundreds of years old,
if not even thousands of years old, and the singing
bowls predominantly were just regular instruments.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
They were certainly used to you know, to hold water
and food.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
They I mean, they were sort of a natural device,
but they're the way they're made and it certainly when
you get into the ancient bowls they're they're known for
having seven medals, gold and silver and copper and brass
and whatnot. And so because of the shape of the
bowl and when they're struck, they create these incredible harmonics
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and vibrations.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
They were adopted in Tibetan monasteries as a as a
device for rituals and meditation, and so they really kind
of took a life of their own. And but obviously,
you know, being in Tibet, until that world was really
cracked open in the in the twentieth century, these were
things that you know, most folks, certainly in the Western world,
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never saw. So as they finally became exposed, they became
a lot more appealing. And they're actually made in many
parts of Asia. They're not just from Tibetan. Many are
made in Nepal, in India, Japan, China, so they've got
a Bhutan and Burma, so a lot of a lot
of interesting places.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now you people also deal with the tuning forks, right
we do? Okay, now, how did alrit is? Do they
work based on the frequency that the tuning fork commits?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yes, yeah, yep.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Each set has different frequencies and it was an interesting
journey how we ended up creating our own I always
knew internally that I wanted to do this, and I
couldn't quite find the right thing to connect it to.
And finally, during our reiki class, we took a dragon
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fire healing is what it's called, and had some experience
with dragon energy. And I'll let Mark tell his story,
but we ended up really connecting our dragon dragon parts
to the forks and then different frequencies that I was
able to download and.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Connect to each of the forks.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
The only experience so I've had with tuning forks was
when I was in the police force, because at the
start of every shift you would have to take the
tuning fork and test the radar, and each tuning fork
would admit a certain frequency, which we relate to the
speed test on the radar unit. So is would that
basically be the same principle behind the tuning forks that
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you people use when healing people.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Yeah, it's very similar. Yeah, so back to your back
to your usage tuning forks. They're used for lots of
different things. Obviously, they're used for for tuning, so they're
heavily used in the music world to tune a piano
for example. They're used in the medical world diagnostically, so yes,
those frequencies are are pretty important, and so finding the
right frequency for the right thing becomes becomes fairly critical,
(09:34):
whether it's music or health. So that's definitely what we're
tapping into is the frequency. And the thing about a
tuning fork. You know, there's different kinds and different frequencies.
So the lower the frequency, the deeper the tuning fork
to the point where some are almost inaudible but create
a lot of vibration. You can really feel the fork
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when it's when it's activated. The higher forks produce the
higher chiny sounds people may be familiar with. They're also vibrating.
That's how the sound is made is through vibration, but
the vibration may not be as palpable. But all forks
both vibrate and emit a sound, and so when we
find the right combination of sound and vibration, we can
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apply that to healing and helping our clients with whatever
might be ailing them.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now, how many different tuning forks are there?
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Yeah, well in our set we have four, but there,
I mean you can certainly you know, they're made in
all different kinds of frequencies. But yeah, we sell four
different sets and they mostly go around with the chakras.
So yeah, And the one thing I do want to
talk about the tuning forks that I think that's fascinating
when you talk about frequency. The way that I use
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them is you can too. You can ring the fork
and go along the body and you can audibly hear
or I can audibly hear when something's out of alignment
the body, so the sound will be off, you know,
you can hear a little it gets like a dull sound,
or will sound off tune if something is off in
the body.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you finding that sound healing is being accepted by
Western medical professionals.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
In fact, there's a woman in the San Diego area
who I've had a chance to work with, and she
does sound therapy in particular Tibetan singing bowl therapy at
Sharp Medical System right there in San Diego. So there
are certainly health systems around the country and around the
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world that I think are more open.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
There are certainly some that are not.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
It's not i would say, entirely widespread, but more and
more Western medicine is realizing these other holistic treatments, whether
it's acupunt acupuncture, massage, sound therapy, all these things are
being a little bit more readily accepted. You can go
on to Cleveland clinic website or other places and you'll
even see it listed as an option. It's usually listed
(12:07):
as a way to create calm, right as opposed to healing.
They're not quite willing to admit that it heals yet,
but they're certainly willing to recognize that it's providing ease
and comfort for folks and maybe struggling otherwise.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Yeah, I'm a nurse and work in the hospital system
here in Idaho, and we've had the opportunity to bring
in some of our sound equipment into the cancer center
and help some patients and things like that. You know,
we haven't implemented it into our health system as a modality, unfortunately,
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but I've definitely seen a more open minded approach.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
All right, guys, please stand by. We've got to take
our first break for this hour ex ownation our guests
this hour, Mark Stevens and Shelley Jensen will be back
with me as we continue talking about sound healing and
ky Therapyes, intuitive readings, custom tuning, and much more. May
the Fork be with you. I'm Rob McConnell. This is
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Speaker 8 (13:42):
I am woman.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
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and then no too much to go back and pretend.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
Because I've heard it all the four and.
Speaker 10 (13:56):
I've been down there.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
On the floor.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
No one is there, and welcome back, every one. Let
me see here. Mark Stevens and Shelley Jensen are a
guess this hour we're talking about sound healing and reiki therapy,
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is intuitive readings and custom tuning forks. If you'd like
to find out more information about Mark and Shelley, visit Mark,
let me see www dot Golden Dragon sound and reiki
dot com. Okay, where does reiki fit into everything? I
hear more and more people talking about reiki than I
have in a long time. And what is with the
(14:43):
resurgence or the awareness of reiki?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Reiki is a fairly old healing modality, at least in
the literature. It dates back to the to the early
nineteen hundreds. It comes from Japan. There's a variety of
lineages as far as various instructors. Mikhail Yasoui is the
one most typically credited, although reiki did not start with him,
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but reiki found its way into the Western world into
you know, into the fifties and sixties, and it's essentially
an energy massage. It's either very light touch on the
body or sometimes even away from the body. And reiki
has just grown in popularity not only because of its
general effectiveness, but it's very non invasive. So for folks
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who are looking for, you know, help with pain or
or you know, maybe emotional issues or whatever the case
might be, it's a very gentle approach. And so I
think as spirituality has evolved, a new age has crept
in more.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I think people are looking for solutions to health.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Problems where Western medicine sometimes lets them down. At some point,
you just get tired of taking pills and you don't
want to be cut open for everything. So I think
people are recognizing there are other things out there, and
reiki's practiced by enough people in enough different ways. I
think there's just enough of it out there that it's
becoming more widely known and accepted.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
What are some of the ailments that you and Shelley
have seen improved by the use of reiki.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
That's a great question. I think, you know, we've seen
a lot of different things. I'd say the first thing,
probably one of the most common, is just anxiety and
inability to relax and rest. And the interesting thing about
reiki and reiki's you know, a name of energy healing.
There's many different modalities out there that are like reiki.
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So for example, healing touch is another one. And when
we have the ability to to spend some time with
a client and Mark and I work together, so we
have two practitioners for one client. We have this ability
through this energy healing just help rebalance the energy and
it gives the person the permission to deeply relax for
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ninety minutes or so and reset, and that reset helps
calm down our nervous system. And when we can calm
down our nervous system, then our body can function so
much better and be able to heal.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Yeah, to expand on anxiety pains probably the next thing
that we see the most in our clients. We had
the privilege of actually taking care of one of the
nurses who worked for Shelley years ago, and she was
suffering from cancer.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
She was, I believe in her third round.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
She came to us with a lot of stomach pain
that it was just the side effects of chemo and
all the other things she was going through, and nothing
would provide her relief. And really a combination of reiki
and sound therapy made her stomach pain go away. It
was remarkable how she literally just didn't have stomach pain
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after that for months. So it's pretty powerful. And so
pain is wan sleep issues and some other things. So yeah,
it's good for a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I have to tell you, I love it when people
like you and Shelley are able to do something to
help other people. I think that this is what the
world is meant to do is to help each other.
And you know, all I could like to say is,
you know, congratulations to you guys for being able to
do that. But that's how I see it on the outside.
How does it feel on the inside to actually have
this effect on the lives of people.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well, you know, this is our side job.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Mark and I both work full time and we really
wanted to give back and we love it. That's all
I can say about. You know, I'm driven to do
this work and it makes me feel good. And when
I get to retire, I'll be able to do it
full time and focus you know, more energy on it.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
But it actually brings me energy.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
And I'll let Mark speak for himself, but I gain
energy from doing it, So I don't ever say, oh
my gosh, we have a client like I'm tired today,
Like I get healing and energy from giving it.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
You know, it's inspiring to me.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
What's fascinating about reiki and sound therapy is it's just
as good for the practitioner as it is for the client.
So when we're playing singing bowls or our tuning forks
or our other instruments, we play a variety of things.
You know, we get to hear them too, and we
get to benefit from a vibration. So it's, I hate
to say, it's really a win win. Our clients get
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to benefit, but so do we and reiki energy is
really fascinating that way. The practitioner tends to receive healing
as much as the client, so it's, you know, very
very different from Western medicine when I'm when I'm giving
somebody a shot or giving them a pill, they're better,
but it does nothing.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
For the for the practitioner, right, So yeah, so when
you say on the.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Inside, it's really it's really an enlightening experience, but it's
enriching to now on. We know we've helped somebody who's
in a spot to bother, but to get so much
joy and healing for ourselves, it's just remarkable. So much
so that we actually teach reiki so people can learn
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it themselves, because you can actually apply reiki to yourself,
you don't, it's not just at someone else.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
So it's yeah, something we teach as well.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So how long would it take somebody to learn how
to do reiki so they could actually work on themselves.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
To actually be capable of doing some work for yourself
and for others, it's a pretty long weekend. Takes you
about three full days to really understand the basic tenets
of reiki and some of the actual hands on practices,
so it doesn't take a long time to learn the basics.
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And then for folks who want to take it further,
usually we encourage folks to practice and get comfortable with
that energy because some of its trust.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
When you're doing.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Reiki on somebody, you have faith belief that it's doing
what it's supposed to do, but it's not always immediately evident,
and so I think when folks are new at reiki,
there tends to be a hesitancy to wonder when are
they doing it riot or they're doing it in a
way that.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Helps Yeah, thinks about reiki.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
It's a magical time when you go through the different courses.
So we're both master trained in a couple different levels,
so there's many different levels you can take, but each
level also helps you heal, so you go through a
healing process, but then you also open up intuitively, there's
a lot of opening up and a lot of personal
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journey that you go through with reiki as well as
learning how to do the modality.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, Now, can you do reiki long distance?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yes, Reiki does work long distance because there really is
no time and space, and if we really believe of
all those fundamentals, you can absolutely tap into somebody's energy yep,
through distance.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Earlier you started to talk about dragons and what is
it with the dragon connection.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
I'm going to let Mark tell the story to start
and then I can kick off some more.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Right, there's a lot to dragons.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
But we'll give you a kind of a quick example
of an actual experience with the dragon. So when we
were studying dragon fire healing, and this was when Shelley
was interested in designing tuning fork. She was using another
brand at the time, but wanted to come up with
her own frequencies and was trying to figure out the
direction these tuning forks should go. When we were practicing
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this dragon fire healing, which is very similar to reiki,
part of the practice is you actually practice on a client.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So I'm in the middle of this practice on a client.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Typically your eyes are closed and you're almost in a
meditative state as you're providing the healing to the client.
And I was literally busy, did quite viscerally by a
dragon who who literally met me nose to nose, this great,
big green dragon.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Who he told me this message.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
He said, I am more than fire. And the reason
he told me that is we were studying dragon fire healing,
and so the idea was you use dragon fire to
help another person heal. But with this dragon, his name
is unity. He wanted me to know that I am
more than fire. I'm my eyes, I'm my scales, my talons,
my teeth, my eyes, my heart, my wings. There's all
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these sub energies tied to a dragon, and so it
really got us fired up about tapping into them. And
Shelley's gone whole hog way beyond the tuning forks. That's
been certainly a good outcome from them, but tapping into
their energies and their dimensional properties, and Shelley can tell
you more about that, She's gone a long way with
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integrating them into her work.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Shelley, did you have the same dragon experience that marked.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I didn't have the same experience.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I was visited by some dragons with meditation in a
little bit different way than he had. It wasn't quite
as visceral, but I could definitely feel the energy and
tap into it and the thing that I've learned working
with this energy. They can get close to us about
in the fourth dimension. So the nice thing about dragons,
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and you'll hear this, you probably know a lot of
people have experience with dragon energy. It's an easier thing
to meditate and tap into because they can get closer
to my energy, which is fun.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Alrighty, we've got about a minute before I have to
go to my next commercial. But do you also teach
dragon energy as well as regular reiki?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
We do.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
It's certainly something we're prepared to teach. We've spent most
of our time on reiki, but when we find the
right students who are ready to progress, that's definitely something
they can learn as well.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
One thing I do do is I can channel information
just like a psychic reading. It's the same thing, but
I do that with dragon energy for clients, and I
bring in a dragon and I can see them in
my mind's eye and I draw it. So I do
dragon art and dragon readings for clients as well, which
has been really fun.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So it sounds to me like you work harder when
you're not at work than when you're at work.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
As a nurse, saying that today I was like, oh
my gosh, yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
We do a lot. You know, my wife is a
retired nurse, so I have nothing but the highest of
respect for nurses. And I just know how hard you work.
And that's why I find it very, very hard to
understand or even believe that you're working so hard to
help people away from your duties as a nurse as
you are with them. So God bless you for that.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I'm honored, like I really am.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
And I you know, I have a full heart to
help people, and I know the healthcare system needs, you know,
some rehaul, and that's my mission.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Is to see what I can do.
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I have to take our middle break Exon Nation. Our
guests this hour are Shelley Jensen and Mark Stevens. We're
talking about sound healing, reicky therapy, intuitive readings, dragon readings,
dragon dragons, and all those other kind of neat dragons.
We'll be back on the other side of this break
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Welcome back everyone. That's Anne Murray, just another woman I love,
a Canadian artist from Nova Scotia. So there you go
to my executive music director. See here's my CANCN for
the hour that explanation. Shelley Jensen and Mark Stevens are
our guests, and we're talking about Reyki. We've talked about
dragon healings, We've talked about sound healings, tuning forks and
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where do you see the future when it comes to
sound healing, Mark, I.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Think it's got a very bright future.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
As a matter of fact, I think it's permeated a
lot of more traditional spaces than people might recognize from
apps on your phone that have singing bawls in the
background to going to a yoga class and somebody is
playing a hand pan. I think all of these alternative
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sounds are just getting a lot more time and attention.
You see them on TV shows, and so I think
people are recognizing that that sound is not only beautiful
to listen to, but it has this lovely therapeutic healing
effect and it's really remarkable, even in our little town
where you wouldn't expect something like this maybe to take
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hold the appeal that it has, and how many people
are interested in it.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
So yeah, I think it's got a bright future.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Shelly, what have you seen being a medical practitioner working
with medical western medical practices as a nurse, have you
seen there'd be an importation of let's say, ancient medical
philosophies being incorporated into Western medicine.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I would say, ever so slightly, ever so slightly.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
You know, what is happening from my perception, and I'm
in a senior leadership role, is that there's more of
an open mind that this is part of healing. And
I think that's what's been refreshing, even though it feels
very slow from my seat, so is starting to open up.
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So meaning that you know, our providers are starting to
really recognize that there is this spiritual other component that
is needed and if the if the patient believes it
and wants it as part of their healing process, they're
more open to bring it in. It used to be
years ago. I mean we couldn't even you know, nothing,
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It was all hoaxed to that world. And I've seen
much more of an open mind to it.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You said that that the client has to believe in
it is this Could this be looked at as part
of the Placeble effect?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
One percent?
Speaker 7 (30:41):
If our minds are so powerful, and I've seen this
in many areas throughout my nursing career. And if you
just think about at a time of crossing or time
of death, you know there are some people who hang
on for a really long time and they shouldn't. Right,
we think, this person, wow, like you know, it's been
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seven days and it should have been two hours. And
you know, the mind is very very powerful, and what
we believe and what we imagine is real. And if
we can really understand and know that, we can make
a difference in our lives. So if we really believe
that something can work for us, it has a much
better chance of working for us than if we say, oh,
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this isn't going to work, right, you know, we're already
in that kind of negative pathway.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Yeah, to jump in quickly, though, There are definitely some
medical studies out there that show these sorts of modalities
are more than just placebo, because the placebo effect it's
really a pejorative term that it really doesn't work as
long as maybe you believe it, and it's not that
our mind doesn't have power.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
But there are definitely some studies. There's not many.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
The acceptance is still relatively low, but the reality is
that people are starting to find through these studies that
these modalities have an effect beyond just straight belief.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
And so I think it's helping to open the doors that.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
What heals us and how medicine works and what medicine
even is isn't restricted to Western medicine, and when you
look at other countries in particular, the US tends to
be fairly strict on these things. If you were to
go to Europe, for example, there's a physician there, Juve Albrecht,
who came up with a system known as innerwise.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
It's a frequency medical approach.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
It it has some reiki like properties, and it's seen
as an actual medical device in in Europe.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
In the US, you know, you're lucky to just get
it published as a book.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
So there's other other parts of the world. They're starting
to recognize this. This is beyond just hocus pocus and belief.
There's reality to it.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know, I'm not saying I'm not saying that there
is in reality. But no matter what the medicine is,
no matter what the diagnosis is, the placebo effect, or
the belief in making things better is a fact. You
can't deny it, right, And that's what I was saying.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
It's full.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
I think you have to you know, you have to
have something that is working vibration and sound, and you
have to have belief together. And we say this all
the time, and we have clients on the table. We're
so happy that you feel better. I'm able to help you, sure,
but you have to go out and.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Keep yourself in this high vibrational state and in the
condition you're in, or else it's just going to go back.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I would imagine that, you know, sound, vibration and reiki
and the other types of healing that you to do
would work wonders in a retirement home, an old folks home.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Well we're right there too, not just kidding.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, absolutely, I think, you know, for sure, I think
that's a great place. And I get the pleasure of
One of the units that I work with in the
hospital is a long term care unit and we have
the tuning forks there for the residents and there is
some sound therapy for them, and that's really, you know, beneficial.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
We actually played a sound bath for the residents of
our nursing home two holiday seasons ago, and it was
delightful just to see sort of the relaxed look on
their faces. And so, yeah, there's definitely a place where
and because again it's so non invasive, it allows people
to relax through things that otherwise they might be suffering from.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
How many notes are there in the bulls.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
That's a really fascinating question. So just some quick background,
The Singing Bulls aren't tuned to what most of us
think of as the Western music scale, which is essentially
twelve steps. The eight notes that people know about, there's
twelve steps in that scale. These the Western music scale
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is a few hundred years old. Singing bowls are hundreds,
if not thousands of years old, so they didn't think.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Of notes when the singing goals were being made.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Now, if you buy singing bulls today, if you go
to a New age shop that sells them, or there's
actually a company' z En Singing Balls that produces bulls
that are tuned to specific notes, there's this tendency to
want to have a singing bowl that's tuned to an
A note or tuned to a G or a D
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or whatnot. I would tell you that trying to think
of medicine that's thousands of years old in the Western
music scale is probably skewed. But the reality is that
you can certainly get singing balls that are tuned to
those notes. The fascating part about most singing balls, whether
they're crystal, and in particular with the Tibetan metal balls,
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they have so many over and undertones that they'll actually
oscillate through a number of notes, so one ball can
actually produce two to three notes.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Now, is there any set when you play music? Get
their sheet music right or you can play by ear?
Is there any set format or what's the word I'm
looking for here, Craig, You know what is there any
set music that the boat you're to play on the bulls,
(36:18):
Let's say, if you want to heal yourself of oh
my gosh, a headache, or if you want to relax yourself,
or if you want to get better sleep, or does
the resonance of the bulls just carry throughout the entire
body and whatever needs to be fixed is fixed.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Yeah, So I teach classes also, so one more thing
that I do. But what I teach is it takes energy, intention,
and intuition. So I'm going to start there because we
do certain music and we're going to be putting some
out on YouTube, playing music for you know, maybe somebody
(36:57):
who's had a brain injury, so for that relief or
to relieve headaches, and so you can put intention into it,
but it doesn't really work that way. And this type
of music that we play that it's like sheet music,
like a piano or something like that. Mark and I
intuitively play. And what that means is that we don't
practice and we do a soundbath. We just we just know,
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I don't even know how else to say it. We
intuitively connect to each other. And he'll play one instrument
and I'll go back it up with a drama or something,
and then we go on to something else and we'll
end exactly at the right time.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
It's really cool that we have this ability together to
do that. But it isn't. It isn't what you're thinking.
And I know what you're trying to ask.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
And it's not like we have a planned out sheet
music and we're going to play this way and every
single time is the same thing.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's different. Every time.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's a it's like a jam session.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah, it is. It's like New age jazz is an
improvisational component.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
And I think, I think to expand on the answer,
and I'm when I'm working with someone with my Tibetan
singing bowls, I don't say, okay, I only use this
bowl for their head or I only use this bowl
for their heart. There is an intentional, intuitive approach, and
so I think when you said, does the vibration go
through them and go where it needs to go, that's
exactly what's happening. In fact, that's a principle of reiki
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that we as the reiki practitioner don't do the healing.
The energy does the healing and it goes where it
needs to go. So even if we're laying our hands
on their feet and their shoulder is sore. We don't
have to put our hands on their shoulder to heal
their shoulder. The energy just knows where to go, because
once people let go and believe, their bodies take over
(38:41):
and it directs the energy.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So we're we're allowing it to get there, and then
we just get out of the way and the body
does the rest.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
How long have you two been doing this?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
About five or six years? Significant?
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Yeah, seriously, Yeah, I think we were. I think we
first got into reiki training about two thousand and seven,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, well I will so my daughter
her ankle pretty bad. She's a little volleyball player, and
so of course I got the forks out and we're
working with her. But I think this is interesting because
you're depending on what fork I use, and her eyes
were closed.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Okay, what we're going to do is I'm going to
ask you to hold on because I don't want to
interrupt you in the middle of the story. We've got
to take our final break, so we're going to do
that now, and when we come back, i'd love to
hear the story about the tuning fork and your daughter's ankle,
and then I want to talk to you about some
paranormal experiences that you both had as well. Ex ollanation
my guests this hour, Mark Stevens and Shelley Jensen, and
(39:41):
if you'd like to find out more about them, maybe
you'd like to take one of their courses. Visit their website,
Golden Dragon Sound and Reikie dot com. That's Golden Sand
the Goldendragonsound and Reiki dot Com. And we'll be back
on the other side of this break as we wrap
up this first hour of tonight show here in the
excell one with your truly Rob McConnell from our broadcast
(40:01):
center in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on the
Excellent Broadcast Network, and on your hometown radio Classic twelve
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Late with the.
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Love you, I know you're not sad.
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Mark steven said Shelley Jensen, our guest this hour ex
O Nation, And first of all, guys, I want to
thank you so much for joining us. It's been very interesting,
and congratulations on all the great things you do.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Well, thank you. We've certainly enjoyed this.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Shelley, let's get back to you and your daughter. She
heard herself playing bollyball was it or soccer?
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Ah, she sprained her ankle bad, terrible sprain. But anyway,
we got the forks out and I was working to
start the healing process, and because it was so sore,
I couldn't use the vibrational forks, only the high tuning forks.
But the interesting part was taught us something is that
each different fork I would play, she could feel it
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at a different spot in her ankle and.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Her eyes were closed. I mean, she wasn't even watching us.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
And I would ring one fork and she'd be I
can feel that over here and I So it's very
interesting how frequency works. So that what that told us
is that different frequencies can affect different areas.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
So that was a fascinating learning experience.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Mark in your opinion, what has been the most awe
inspiring moment that you've had while working with sound healing.
Speaker 8 (42:34):
We've had a couple I think the I think the
nurse that we mentioned earlier in our dialogue that was
really remarkable. We helped her quite a bit between helping
alleviate her stomach pain, helping to alleviate some sleep.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Issues that she had, and we were fortunate. Sadly your
time came and she was on hospice.
Speaker 8 (43:00):
I'm charging that her husband, Yeah, it was sad, and
her husband was really a non believer in these things.
They grew up on farms and he's kind of great
salt of the earth, but he watched all of this.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
With his wife and he was so impressed and so
grateful for the relief that he really.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
He was just enamored with something he didn't understand, and
so he invited us to assist her when she was
literally in a hospice bed in her home, literally hours
before she passed, and we were able to provide a
reiki and sound therapy session for her. And you know,
it can feel a little gruesome, but her her body
(43:43):
was was fairly rigored and stiff and tense, and you know,
after we spent an hour with her and she's essentially unconscious,
non communicative and to watch the relaxation that took place
in her body and the the it was just amazing.
So this is not a conscious person who can dialogue
with us, and to see her body just relax and
(44:05):
see all of that tension melt away. I mean, her
husband was sobbing, We were crying, and she was able
to pass a few hours later in so much peace
and dignity. It was just a remarkable experience.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
How about you, Shelly, what has been your most inspiring
a moment?
Speaker 5 (44:24):
You know, I've had some.
Speaker 7 (44:24):
I'm going to go to the paranormal side here, since
we were heading that way all right. Had a very
interesting experience with a client who, you know, was just
kind of having issues clearing herself and felt like she
wasn't herself.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
And we went into the session with the intention.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
To clear some things from her and I could feel
that she had, you know, other energies with her. And
while we were giving reiki and I was working on
her feet, I saw a shadow being literally come out
of her body. It was about three feet tall. It
was very weird shaped, had like a square body, had
a head, arms, legs like and I thought to myself,
(45:09):
did I just see that.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
You know, you look couple times and it jumped off
of the bed.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
I literally saw it come off of the bed and
run behind the chair, and I thought, wow, well it
worked that we cleared her, But now what am I
going to do with you know, a shadow being in
the room. So we spent quite a bit of time
clearing the space after that. So that was an interesting event.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
So are you also an exorcist then?
Speaker 5 (45:38):
No, I would not call myself an exorcist.
Speaker 7 (45:40):
No, I aman I work with certainly happy to try
to clear and do all of those things. There's just
a weird connotation that may becomes with that word. But absolutely,
you know, I spend time focusing on clearing and trying
to help people get to their who they are in
their original state. Because we all attract energies, you know,
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every day we're all around different energies that can attach
to us.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah, speaking about energies, what roll does all the new
electronic signatures that we have today going through each and
every one of us, for example, the microwaves, the G five,
the Y fives and so on, how does that affect
our natural energy within our bodies?
Speaker 7 (46:27):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I think it affects us in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 8 (46:31):
At the end of the day, you know, the body
has its own electro chemistry, and it has its own frequency,
and when you start exposing it to all of these
other artificial frequencies that aren't natural and aren't how our
bodies want to vibrate, they create all sorts of problems
for us. And then the other thing is is that
these energies they're addictive. So how many of us spend
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the majority of our time with a phone in our hand.
I mean we're talking to each other at dinner and
our phones in our hand. We've literally almost lost the
ability to communicate normally. So I think it's I think
it's reprogrammed our brains, it's reprogrammed us socially. And so again,
I think it's the value of things like sound therapy
to remove people from those environments and to tell their
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body how to go back and vibrate the way it
was intended to and not artificially with all of these inputs.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
Now, I would add to that that going out into
nature is the way to reset without the phone. With that,
it's making a commitment to get away from and leave
all the devices at home and go spend time in
nature to reset.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
But even if we leave the devices at home, the
frequencies are still out there. The microwaves are still out there,
the G five is still out there, the Wi Fi
is still out there. So even though the device isn't
with us, we still face the problem.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
All the time, yeah, which is interfering with our intuition
and our direct connection to source and spirit and guides
that help communicate with us. When we're bombarded with all
of these things, so very important to ground, put your
feet in the dirt, and you can, you know, get
away from them as much as you can. We have
devices in our house that help mitigate that. We have
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a couple different things, and I believe that's helpful. That
you're right, it's very hard to get away from it.
Speaker 8 (48:24):
Yeah, I feel strongly though, and especially coming with my
martial arts background and sort of Chinese medicine chigong taichi.
I think when we are intentional about tuning in, we
can tune out and those things that are outside of
us don't have to penetrate. But when we aren't intentional
about creating that safe space within us, then I think
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those things become.
Speaker 6 (48:48):
Just that much more harmful. Because you're right, it's out there,
whether we want it to be or not.
Speaker 8 (48:52):
But we don't have to be victimized by it if
we're intentional. So going out in nature is part of it.
Going out in nature intentionally is the way to prevent
those things from causing further damage.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Okay, I agree with you to a certain extent, But
how are you going to stop how is your How
are you going to train your body not to feel
the effects of G five, of the microwaves and other
aspects that are out there.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
Yeah, it's a fair question, and I think the analogy
for me is if we could use sound therapy and
reiki to keep chemotherapy from wrecking a woman and keeping
her from sleep and keeping her in constant pain, I'm
convinced we can do the same things to prevent other
energies from getting in us. It might be a bit
(49:43):
of a leap of faith, but I'm convinced if we're
energetically sound and we're vibrating at the level we're supposed to,
we'll attract like and those things won't want to come in.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
In all fairness, Mark, you only had success with one
person who had cancer, correct, Oh, that's the one.
Speaker 8 (50:03):
Yeah, that's one client we've had, We've had effects on
other clients.
Speaker 6 (50:07):
We focused on her, but there certainly have been others.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Who had cancer.
Speaker 6 (50:13):
I don't know, we've had folk. We've had folks who
had had cancer in the past.
Speaker 8 (50:17):
Yeah, she was going through it at the time, but
we've certainly had folks who have had cancer in the past,
and a variety of other.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, okay, quickly tell me about tell me about your
UFO U A P sightings.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
Well, that's fine, we've had a few, So you tell
the line about the first one with the Oh.
Speaker 8 (50:39):
Yeah, So we were coming home from from California. We
took our kids to California at one one year, and
we were crossing the California Nevada border, which is always
a weird place anyway, as far as I'm concerned. And
we had two orbs literally come over the top of
the car from the back of the car towards the front,
so we could see them zip out in front of
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us through the windshield.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
And they paused in front of the vehicle, and they're
quite high. And this is in the daytime, mind you,
not at night. And they began almost.
Speaker 8 (51:12):
Bouncing in the air and circling around out in front
of the vehicle, and as soon as that happened, for
a handful of seconds, they literally split.
Speaker 6 (51:22):
One went right, one went left at high speed.
Speaker 8 (51:27):
There's certainly air force bases and military installations in the area,
but having grown up around military bases my dad was
in the Air Force, I've never seen an airplane do
with these things diad. So yeah, So that's one of
about a half a dozen sightings we've had. It was
probably one of the more remarkable, but we've had a
few others.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Tell me about another one. We've got about a minute
and a half left.
Speaker 7 (51:50):
So we had a very interesting experience on the way
to Mount Shasta and the whole way there, I was like,
come on, I want to see some crazy things, like
I want I'm all in right, I want to see
the actual like alien standing somewhere right and asking for
this to happen. And on the way there, we were
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driving and we both looked up at this cloud and
it was the oddest thing.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
It took. It was a shape.
Speaker 7 (52:20):
It turned into a different shape like every second. It
turned into a shape of a wave, it turned into
a triangle, it turned into a circle. I can't even
remember all the shapes, but It's impossible for a cloud
to do that. It's impossible. And I didn't even say anything.
I just kept staring at it. And then I looked
at Mark and he was looking at it, and I'm like,
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did you see that? And He's like, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
It was It was fairly interesting because we were driving
right next to a small grass fire and there was
when the smoke was going straight up, so the clouds
weren't moving.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
So why this thing morphed so many times in front.
Speaker 8 (52:57):
Of us and very specific shape and very shape and
then evaporated.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
There lies the mystery. Guys. I want to say thank
you so much for joining us tonight continued success. I
love what you're doing and just keep it up please,
and don't forget to drop us a line once once
in a while to let us know how you're doing.
Speaker 6 (53:17):
I appreciate you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
You guys, take care of yourselves. An excell nation. If
you'd like more information about our guests this hour, Golden
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in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada on the xone broadcast network,
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place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality. The
X one comes to you Monday through Friday from ten
pm Eastern until midnight right here on the Xzone Broadcast
Network and on your hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty, streaming
around the world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. And
we'd like to say another hello to our newest affiliate
in Midland, Michigan, wv E X one O five point
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three FM x Oonation. My first guests tonight are Mark
Stevens and Shelley Jensen. We're gonna be talking about sound
healing and reiki therapy's intuitive readings and a custom tuning forks.
Joining me now from Twin Falls, Idaho are Mark and
Shelley and hey, guys, welcome to the XON. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, we're super excited to be here.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
All right, now, first of all, welcome, great having you
guys too, and tell us a little bit about yourself ladies. First,
So Shelley, how did you start your question and how
did you get into sound healing, reiki, intuitive readings, and
custom tuning forks.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Wow, that's a loaded question. So it's really been an evolution.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Probably during my college years, which was a while ago,
I took a course called Religions of the World.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
That really opened my mind.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I was grew up in a Christian household and you know,
didn't have a lot of exposure to other things, and
that started my journey. And as I went along later
on getting into some of the New Age things and
crystals and all those fun things, I was introduced to
tuning forks.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
And I was instantly in love and wanted to know
more and it just kind of snowballed from there.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
And once I was an in Tbetan shop and saw
Tibetan bulls which were fascinating and really thought, wow, this
is this is really cool stuff and things I haven't
been exposed to before.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
So that's really what started my journey.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And Steven, how about you? What started your journey and
how did you get where you are today?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Actually I kind of have my wife to think. So
my brief background, I studied history in college. I'm George
Mason grad and was big into Asian religion and history.
I was a Burmese martial artist for a long time,
and so I really kind of appreciated all those things.
And so when Shelley learned about Tibetan singing bowls after
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after we started dating, she introduced them to me. And
I'm a former bass player, so music and those sorts
of things were really appealing to me, and Tibetan singing
bulls were just fascinating. I just loved them immediately and
started amassing and collecting them. And they've just got such
a great sound and therapeutic vibe to them, and one
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thing kind of snowballed the other before we knew what
we were buying. Instruments of various sorts and doing sound
bass and sound therapy and reiki became a part of that,
and yeah, it's been an amazing journey.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I can just hear it now when you were you
and Shelley were dating, you know, and did she say,
all right, big boy, come on over to my house
and listen to my bulls.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Yeah it's almost that cool.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Really, eh, super No, I've had the occasion to listen
to the bulls and they are fascinating. I love them.
I love them. I love the tunes and the pitches
and the vibrations and the frequencies. Isn't that what life
is all about, vibration and frequency.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, it's all about sound and frequency as a matter
of fact, because we all that's what we're.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
All made of.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
And I think that's what's so great about sound healing
is that our bodies naturally just vibrate to that music.
It's why most people love it. And when we're in
that state of high vibration, we can heal. And that's
the magical part about sound.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, Shelley, you may not remember this, and I'm
sure Mark you don't remember this, but way back when
in the sixties, there was a group called the hippies.
You may have read about them in the history books,
and that's what they were all about was music, vibrations,
you know, and they I believe that this is where
the New Age actually was born in hate Ashbury and
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hippie communes around the world. You know, they knew what
music was all about.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
In fact, singing bowls can pay homage to the sixties.
There was a gentleman by the name of Frank Perry
who played in bands in the sixties. He was a
percussionist and he really took to New Age and therapy
and singing bowls. Uh, and really, uh, he's become kind
of an expert on the subject. He's uh, he's written
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a book or two about him, and he's he's just
a fascinating guy.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
He really made a big thing at him.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I think he played for uh black Cat Bones was
his was his band, and anyway, he became deeply interested in.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Them and and has been a real leader in that
in that space.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what is the history behind singing bulls.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Uh, it's they're fascinating. They're they're certainly hundreds of years old,
if not even thousands of years old, and the singing
bowls predominantly were just regular instruments.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
They were certainly used to you know, to hold water
and food.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
They I mean, they were sort of a natural device,
but they're the way they're made and it certainly when
you get into the ancient bowls they're they're known for
having seven medals, gold and silver and copper and brass
and whatnot. And so because of the shape of the
bowl and when they're struck, they create these incredible harmonics
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and vibrations.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
They were adopted in Tibetan monasteries as a as a
device for rituals and meditation, and so they really kind
of took a life of their own. And but obviously,
you know, being in Tibet, until that world was really
cracked open in the in the twentieth century, these were
things that you know, most folks, certainly in the Western world,
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never saw. So as they finally became exposed, they became
a lot more appealing. And they're actually made in many
parts of Asia. They're not just from Tibetan. Many are
made in Nepal, in India, Japan, China, so they've got
a Bhutan and Burma, so a lot of a lot
of interesting places.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now you people also deal with the tuning forks, right
we do? Okay, now, how did alrit is? Do they
work based on the frequency that the tuning fork commits?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yes, yeah, yep.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Each set has different frequencies and it was an interesting
journey how we ended up creating our own I always
knew internally that I wanted to do this, and I
couldn't quite find the right thing to connect it to.
And finally, during our reiki class, we took a dragon
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fire healing is what it's called, and had some experience
with dragon energy. And I'll let Mark tell his story,
but we ended up really connecting our dragon dragon parts
to the forks and then different frequencies that I was
able to download and.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Connect to each of the forks.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
The only experience so I've had with tuning forks was
when I was in the police force, because at the
start of every shift you would have to take the
tuning fork and test the radar, and each tuning fork
would admit a certain frequency, which we relate to the
speed test on the radar unit. So is would that
basically be the same principle behind the tuning forks that
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you people use when healing people.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Yeah, it's very similar. Yeah, so back to your back
to your usage tuning forks. They're used for lots of
different things. Obviously, they're used for for tuning, so they're
heavily used in the music world to tune a piano
for example. They're used in the medical world diagnostically, so yes,
those frequencies are are pretty important, and so finding the
right frequency for the right thing becomes becomes fairly critical,
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whether it's music or health. So that's definitely what we're
tapping into is the frequency. And the thing about a
tuning fork. You know, there's different kinds and different frequencies.
So the lower the frequency, the deeper the tuning fork
to the point where some are almost inaudible but create
a lot of vibration. You can really feel the fork
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when it's when it's activated. The higher forks produce the
higher chiny sounds people may be familiar with. They're also vibrating.
That's how the sound is made is through vibration, but
the vibration may not be as palpable. But all forks
both vibrate and emit a sound, and so when we
find the right combination of sound and vibration, we can
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apply that to healing and helping our clients with whatever
might be ailing them.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now, how many different tuning forks are there?
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Yeah, well in our set we have four, but there,
I mean you can certainly you know, they're made in
all different kinds of frequencies. But yeah, we sell four
different sets and they mostly go around with the chakras.
So yeah, And the one thing I do want to
talk about the tuning forks that I think that's fascinating
when you talk about frequency. The way that I use
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them is you can too. You can ring the fork
and go along the body and you can audibly hear
or I can audibly hear when something's out of alignment
the body, so the sound will be off, you know,
you can hear a little it gets like a dull sound,
or will sound off tune if something is off in
the body.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you finding that sound healing is being accepted by
Western medical professionals.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
In fact, there's a woman in the San Diego area
who I've had a chance to work with, and she
does sound therapy in particular Tibetan singing bowl therapy at
Sharp Medical System right there in San Diego. So there
are certainly health systems around the country and around the
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world that I think are more open.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
There are certainly some that are not.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
It's not i would say, entirely widespread, but more and
more Western medicine is realizing these other holistic treatments, whether
it's acupunt acupuncture, massage, sound therapy, all these things are
being a little bit more readily accepted. You can go
on to Cleveland clinic website or other places and you'll
even see it listed as an option. It's usually listed
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as a way to create calm, right as opposed to healing.
They're not quite willing to admit that it heals yet,
but they're certainly willing to recognize that it's providing ease
and comfort for folks and maybe struggling otherwise.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Yeah, I'm a nurse and work in the hospital system
here in Idaho, and we've had the opportunity to bring
in some of our sound equipment into the cancer center
and help some patients and things like that. You know,
we haven't implemented it into our health system as a modality, unfortunately,
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but I've definitely seen a more open minded approach.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
All right, guys, please stand by. We've got to take
our first break for this hour ex ownation our guests
this hour, Mark Stevens and Shelley Jensen will be back
with me as we continue talking about sound healing and
ky Therapyes, intuitive readings, custom tuning, and much more. May
the Fork be with you. I'm Rob McConnell. This is
the X Zone. We're coming to you on the X
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Speaker 9 (13:53):
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No one is there, and welcome back, every one. Let
me see here. Mark Stevens and Shelley Jensen are a
guess this hour we're talking about sound healing and reiki therapy,
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is intuitive readings and custom tuning forks. If you'd like
to find out more information about Mark and Shelley, visit Mark,
let me see www dot Golden Dragon sound and reiki
dot com. Okay, where does reiki fit into everything? I
hear more and more people talking about reiki than I
have in a long time. And what is with the
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resurgence or the awareness of reiki?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Reiki is a fairly old healing modality, at least in
the literature. It dates back to the to the early
nineteen hundreds. It comes from Japan. There's a variety of
lineages as far as various instructors. Mikhail Yasoui is the
one most typically credited, although reiki did not start with him,
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but reiki found its way into the Western world into
you know, into the fifties and sixties, and it's essentially
an energy massage. It's either very light touch on the
body or sometimes even away from the body. And reiki
has just grown in popularity not only because of its
general effectiveness, but it's very non invasive. So for folks
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who are looking for, you know, help with pain or
or you know, maybe emotional issues or whatever the case
might be, it's a very gentle approach. And so I
think as spirituality has evolved, a new age has crept
in more.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I think people are looking for solutions to health.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Problems where Western medicine sometimes lets them down. At some point,
you just get tired of taking pills and you don't
want to be cut open for everything. So I think
people are recognizing there are other things out there, and
reiki's practiced by enough people in enough different ways. I
think there's just enough of it out there that it's
becoming more widely known and accepted.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
What are some of the ailments that you and Shelley
have seen improved by the use of reiki.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
That's a great question. I think, you know, we've seen
a lot of different things. I'd say the first thing,
probably one of the most common, is just anxiety and
inability to relax and rest. And the interesting thing about
reiki and reiki's you know, a name of energy healing.
There's many different modalities out there that are like reiki.
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So for example, healing touch is another one. And when
we have the ability to to spend some time with
a client and Mark and I work together, so we
have two practitioners for one client. We have this ability
through this energy healing just help rebalance the energy and
it gives the person the permission to deeply relax for
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ninety minutes or so and reset, and that reset helps
calm down our nervous system. And when we can calm
down our nervous system, then our body can function so
much better and be able to heal.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Yeah, to expand on anxiety pains probably the next thing
that we see the most in our clients. We had
the privilege of actually taking care of one of the
nurses who worked for Shelley years ago, and she was
suffering from cancer.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
She was, I believe in her third round.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
She came to us with a lot of stomach pain
that it was just the side effects of chemo and
all the other things she was going through, and nothing
would provide her relief. And really a combination of reiki
and sound therapy made her stomach pain go away. It
was remarkable how she literally just didn't have stomach pain
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after that for months. So it's pretty powerful. And so
pain is wan sleep issues and some other things. So yeah,
it's good for a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I have to tell you, I love it when people
like you and Shelley are able to do something to
help other people. I think that this is what the
world is meant to do is to help each other.
And you know, all I could like to say is,
you know, congratulations to you guys for being able to
do that. But that's how I see it on the outside.
How does it feel on the inside to actually have
this effect on the lives of people.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well, you know, this is our side job.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Mark and I both work full time and we really
wanted to give back and we love it. That's all
I can say about. You know, I'm driven to do
this work and it makes me feel good. And when
I get to retire, I'll be able to do it
full time and focus you know, more energy on it.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
But it actually brings me energy.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
And I'll let Mark speak for himself, but I gain
energy from doing it, So I don't ever say, oh
my gosh, we have a client like I'm tired today,
Like I get healing and energy from giving it.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
You know, it's inspiring to me.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
What's fascinating about reiki and sound therapy is it's just
as good for the practitioner as it is for the client.
So when we're playing singing bowls or our tuning forks
or our other instruments, we play a variety of things.
You know, we get to hear them too, and we
get to benefit from a vibration. So it's, I hate
to say, it's really a win win. Our clients get
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to benefit, but so do we and reiki energy is
really fascinating that way. The practitioner tends to receive healing
as much as the client, so it's, you know, very
very different from Western medicine when I'm when I'm giving
somebody a shot or giving them a pill, they're better,
but it does nothing.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
For the for the practitioner, right, So yeah, so when
you say on the.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Inside, it's really it's really an enlightening experience, but it's
enriching to now on. We know we've helped somebody who's
in a spot to bother, but to get so much
joy and healing for ourselves, it's just remarkable. So much
so that we actually teach reiki so people can learn
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it themselves, because you can actually apply reiki to yourself,
you don't, it's not just at someone else.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
So it's yeah, something we teach as well.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So how long would it take somebody to learn how
to do reiki so they could actually work on themselves.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
To actually be capable of doing some work for yourself
and for others, it's a pretty long weekend. Takes you
about three full days to really understand the basic tenets
of reiki and some of the actual hands on practices,
so it doesn't take a long time to learn the basics.
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And then for folks who want to take it further,
usually we encourage folks to practice and get comfortable with
that energy because some of its trust.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
When you're doing.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Reiki on somebody, you have faith belief that it's doing
what it's supposed to do, but it's not always immediately evident,
and so I think when folks are new at reiki,
there tends to be a hesitancy to wonder when are
they doing it riot or they're doing it in a
way that.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Helps Yeah, thinks about reiki.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
It's a magical time when you go through the different courses.
So we're both master trained in a couple different levels,
so there's many different levels you can take, but each
level also helps you heal, so you go through a
healing process, but then you also open up intuitively, there's
a lot of opening up and a lot of personal
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journey that you go through with reiki as well as
learning how to do the modality.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, Now, can you do reiki long distance?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yes, Reiki does work long distance because there really is
no time and space, and if we really believe of
all those fundamentals, you can absolutely tap into somebody's energy yep,
through distance.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Earlier you started to talk about dragons and what is
it with the dragon connection.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
I'm going to let Mark tell the story to start
and then I can kick off some more.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Right, there's a lot to dragons.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
But we'll give you a kind of a quick example
of an actual experience with the dragon. So when we
were studying dragon fire healing, and this was when Shelley
was interested in designing tuning fork. She was using another
brand at the time, but wanted to come up with
her own frequencies and was trying to figure out the
direction these tuning forks should go. When we were practicing
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this dragon fire healing, which is very similar to reiki,
part of the practice is you actually practice on a client.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So I'm in the middle of this practice on a client.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Typically your eyes are closed and you're almost in a
meditative state as you're providing the healing to the client.
And I was literally busy, did quite viscerally by a
dragon who who literally met me nose to nose, this great,
big green dragon.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Who he told me this message.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
He said, I am more than fire. And the reason
he told me that is we were studying dragon fire healing,
and so the idea was you use dragon fire to
help another person heal. But with this dragon, his name
is unity. He wanted me to know that I am
more than fire. I'm my eyes, I'm my scales, my talons,
my teeth, my eyes, my heart, my wings. There's all
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these sub energies tied to a dragon, and so it
really got us fired up about tapping into them. And
Shelley's gone whole hog way beyond the tuning forks. That's
been certainly a good outcome from them, but tapping into
their energies and their dimensional properties, and Shelley can tell
you more about that, She's gone a long way with
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integrating them into her work.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Shelley, did you have the same dragon experience that marked.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I didn't have the same experience.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I was visited by some dragons with meditation in a
little bit different way than he had. It wasn't quite
as visceral, but I could definitely feel the energy and
tap into it and the thing that I've learned working
with this energy. They can get close to us about
in the fourth dimension. So the nice thing about dragons,
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and you'll hear this, you probably know a lot of
people have experience with dragon energy. It's an easier thing
to meditate and tap into because they can get closer
to my energy, which is fun.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Alrighty, we've got about a minute before I have to
go to my next commercial. But do you also teach
dragon energy as well as regular reiki?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
We do.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
It's certainly something we're prepared to teach. We've spent most
of our time on reiki, but when we find the
right students who are ready to progress, that's definitely something
they can learn as well.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
One thing I do do is I can channel information
just like a psychic reading. It's the same thing, but
I do that with dragon energy for clients, and I
bring in a dragon and I can see them in
my mind's eye and I draw it. So I do
dragon art and dragon readings for clients as well, which
has been really fun.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So it sounds to me like you work harder when
you're not at work than when you're at work.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
As a nurse, saying that today I was like, oh
my gosh, yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
We do a lot. You know, my wife is a
retired nurse, so I have nothing but the highest of
respect for nurses. And I just know how hard you work.
And that's why I find it very, very hard to
understand or even believe that you're working so hard to
help people away from your duties as a nurse as
you are with them. So God bless you for that.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I'm honored, like I really am.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
And I you know, I have a full heart to
help people, and I know the healthcare system needs, you know,
some rehaul, and that's my mission.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Is to see what I can do.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
All right, guys, all right, stand by guys, you and
I have to take our middle break Exon Nation. Our
guests this hour are Shelley Jensen and Mark Stevens. We're
talking about sound healing, reicky therapy, intuitive readings, dragon readings,
dragon dragons, and all those other kind of neat dragons.
We'll be back on the other side of this break
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the hour that explanation. Shelley Jensen and Mark Stevens are
our guests, and we're talking about Reyki. We've talked about
dragon healings, We've talked about sound healings, tuning forks and
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where do you see the future when it comes to
sound healing, Mark, I.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Think it's got a very bright future.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
As a matter of fact, I think it's permeated a
lot of more traditional spaces than people might recognize from
apps on your phone that have singing bawls in the
background to going to a yoga class and somebody is
playing a hand pan. I think all of these alternative
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sounds are just getting a lot more time and attention.
You see them on TV shows, and so I think
people are recognizing that that sound is not only beautiful
to listen to, but it has this lovely therapeutic healing
effect and it's really remarkable, even in our little town
where you wouldn't expect something like this maybe to take
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hold the appeal that it has, and how many people
are interested in it.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
So yeah, I think it's got a bright future.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Shelly, what have you seen being a medical practitioner working
with medical western medical practices as a nurse, have you
seen there'd be an importation of let's say, ancient medical
philosophies being incorporated into Western medicine.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I would say, ever so slightly, ever so slightly.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
You know, what is happening from my perception, and I'm
in a senior leadership role, is that there's more of
an open mind that this is part of healing. And
I think that's what's been refreshing, even though it feels
very slow from my seat, so is starting to open up.
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So meaning that you know, our providers are starting to
really recognize that there is this spiritual other component that
is needed and if the if the patient believes it
and wants it as part of their healing process, they're
more open to bring it in. It used to be
years ago. I mean we couldn't even you know, nothing,
(30:23):
It was all hoaxed to that world. And I've seen
much more of an open mind to it.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You said that that the client has to believe in
it is this Could this be looked at as part
of the Placeble effect?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
One percent?
Speaker 7 (30:41):
If our minds are so powerful, and I've seen this
in many areas throughout my nursing career. And if you
just think about at a time of crossing or time
of death, you know there are some people who hang
on for a really long time and they shouldn't. Right,
we think, this person, wow, like you know, it's been
(31:02):
seven days and it should have been two hours. And
you know, the mind is very very powerful, and what
we believe and what we imagine is real. And if
we can really understand and know that, we can make
a difference in our lives. So if we really believe
that something can work for us, it has a much
better chance of working for us than if we say, oh,
(31:24):
this isn't going to work, right, you know, we're already
in that kind of negative pathway.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Yeah, to jump in quickly, though, There are definitely some
medical studies out there that show these sorts of modalities
are more than just placebo, because the placebo effect it's
really a pejorative term that it really doesn't work as
long as maybe you believe it, and it's not that
our mind doesn't have power.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
But there are definitely some studies. There's not many.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
The acceptance is still relatively low, but the reality is
that people are starting to find through these studies that
these modalities have an effect beyond just straight belief.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
And so I think it's helping to open the doors that.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
What heals us and how medicine works and what medicine
even is isn't restricted to Western medicine, and when you
look at other countries in particular, the US tends to
be fairly strict on these things. If you were to
go to Europe, for example, there's a physician there, Juve Albrecht,
who came up with a system known as innerwise.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
It's a frequency medical approach.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
It it has some reiki like properties, and it's seen
as an actual medical device in in Europe.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
In the US, you know, you're lucky to just get
it published as a book.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
So there's other other parts of the world. They're starting
to recognize this. This is beyond just hocus pocus and belief.
There's reality to it.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know, I'm not saying I'm not saying that there
is in reality. But no matter what the medicine is,
no matter what the diagnosis is, the placebo effect, or
the belief in making things better is a fact. You
can't deny it, right, And that's what I was saying.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
It's full.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
I think you have to you know, you have to
have something that is working vibration and sound, and you
have to have belief together. And we say this all
the time, and we have clients on the table. We're
so happy that you feel better. I'm able to help you, sure,
but you have to go out and.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Keep yourself in this high vibrational state and in the
condition you're in, or else it's just going to go back.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I would imagine that, you know, sound, vibration and reiki
and the other types of healing that you to do
would work wonders in a retirement home, an old folks home.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Well we're right there too, not just kidding.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, absolutely, I think, you know, for sure, I think
that's a great place. And I get the pleasure of
One of the units that I work with in the
hospital is a long term care unit and we have
the tuning forks there for the residents and there is
some sound therapy for them, and that's really, you know, beneficial.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
We actually played a sound bath for the residents of
our nursing home two holiday seasons ago, and it was
delightful just to see sort of the relaxed look on
their faces. And so, yeah, there's definitely a place where
and because again it's so non invasive, it allows people
to relax through things that otherwise they might be suffering from.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
How many notes are there in the bulls.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
That's a really fascinating question. So just some quick background,
The Singing Bulls aren't tuned to what most of us
think of as the Western music scale, which is essentially
twelve steps. The eight notes that people know about, there's
twelve steps in that scale. These the Western music scale
(34:53):
is a few hundred years old. Singing bowls are hundreds,
if not thousands of years old, so they didn't think.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Of notes when the singing goals were being made.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Now, if you buy singing bulls today, if you go
to a New age shop that sells them, or there's
actually a company' z En Singing Balls that produces bulls
that are tuned to specific notes, there's this tendency to
want to have a singing bowl that's tuned to an
A note or tuned to a G or a D
(35:22):
or whatnot. I would tell you that trying to think
of medicine that's thousands of years old in the Western
music scale is probably skewed. But the reality is that
you can certainly get singing balls that are tuned to
those notes. The fascating part about most singing balls, whether
they're crystal, and in particular with the Tibetan metal balls,
(35:44):
they have so many over and undertones that they'll actually
oscillate through a number of notes, so one ball can
actually produce two to three notes.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Now, is there any set when you play music? Get
their sheet music right or you can play by ear?
Is there any set format or what's the word I'm
looking for here, Craig, You know what is there any
set music that the boat you're to play on the bulls,
(36:18):
Let's say, if you want to heal yourself of oh
my gosh, a headache, or if you want to relax yourself,
or if you want to get better sleep, or does
the resonance of the bulls just carry throughout the entire
body and whatever needs to be fixed is fixed.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Yeah, So I teach classes also, so one more thing
that I do. But what I teach is it takes energy, intention,
and intuition. So I'm going to start there because we
do certain music and we're going to be putting some
out on YouTube, playing music for you know, maybe somebody
(36:57):
who's had a brain injury, so for that relief or
to relieve headaches, and so you can put intention into it,
but it doesn't really work that way. And this type
of music that we play that it's like sheet music,
like a piano or something like that. Mark and I
intuitively play. And what that means is that we don't
practice and we do a soundbath. We just we just know,
(37:19):
I don't even know how else to say it. We
intuitively connect to each other. And he'll play one instrument
and I'll go back it up with a drama or something,
and then we go on to something else and we'll
end exactly at the right time.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
It's really cool that we have this ability together to
do that. But it isn't. It isn't what you're thinking.
And I know what you're trying to ask.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
And it's not like we have a planned out sheet
music and we're going to play this way and every
single time is the same thing.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's different. Every time.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's a it's like a jam session.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah, it is. It's like New age jazz is an
improvisational component.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
And I think, I think to expand on the answer,
and I'm when I'm working with someone with my Tibetan
singing bowls, I don't say, okay, I only use this
bowl for their head or I only use this bowl
for their heart. There is an intentional, intuitive approach, and
so I think when you said, does the vibration go
through them and go where it needs to go, that's
exactly what's happening. In fact, that's a principle of reiki
(38:20):
that we as the reiki practitioner don't do the healing.
The energy does the healing and it goes where it
needs to go. So even if we're laying our hands
on their feet and their shoulder is sore. We don't
have to put our hands on their shoulder to heal
their shoulder. The energy just knows where to go, because
once people let go and believe, their bodies take over
(38:41):
and it directs the energy.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So we're we're allowing it to get there, and then
we just get out of the way and the body
does the rest.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
How long have you two been doing this?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
About five or six years? Significant?
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Yeah, seriously, Yeah, I think we were. I think we
first got into reiki training about two thousand and seven,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, well I will so my daughter
her ankle pretty bad. She's a little volleyball player, and
so of course I got the forks out and we're
working with her. But I think this is interesting because
you're depending on what fork I use, and her eyes
were closed.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Okay, what we're going to do is I'm going to
ask you to hold on because I don't want to
interrupt you in the middle of the story. We've got
to take our final break, so we're going to do
that now, and when we come back, i'd love to
hear the story about the tuning fork and your daughter's ankle,
and then I want to talk to you about some
paranormal experiences that you both had as well. Ex ollanation
my guests this hour, Mark Stevens and Shelley Jensen, and
(39:41):
if you'd like to find out more about them, maybe
you'd like to take one of their courses. Visit their website,
Golden Dragon Sound and Reikie dot com. That's Golden Sand
the Goldendragonsound and Reiki dot Com. And we'll be back
on the other side of this break as we wrap
up this first hour of tonight show here in the
excell one with your truly Rob McConnell from our broadcast
(40:01):
center in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on the
Excellent Broadcast Network, and on your hometown radio Classic twelve
twenty streaming Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Late with the.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Plan, Believing the life is a neat little package, a
hole in money.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
I've got to care.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Thank you, You've got Gating on your line.
Speaker 9 (40:57):
Something is wrong between us that you're laughter cann of.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
And you're afraid to let your eyes meet mine, Emily,
When I.
Speaker 9 (41:17):
Love you, I know you're not sad.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Mark steven said Shelley Jensen, our guest this hour ex
O Nation, And first of all, guys, I want to
thank you so much for joining us. It's been very interesting,
and congratulations on all the great things you do.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Well, thank you. We've certainly enjoyed this.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Shelley, let's get back to you and your daughter. She
heard herself playing bollyball was it or soccer?
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Ah, she sprained her ankle bad, terrible sprain. But anyway,
we got the forks out and I was working to
start the healing process, and because it was so sore,
I couldn't use the vibrational forks, only the high tuning forks.
But the interesting part was taught us something is that
each different fork I would play, she could feel it
(42:04):
at a different spot in her ankle and.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Her eyes were closed. I mean, she wasn't even watching us.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
And I would ring one fork and she'd be I
can feel that over here and I So it's very
interesting how frequency works. So that what that told us
is that different frequencies can affect different areas.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
So that was a fascinating learning experience.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Mark in your opinion, what has been the most awe
inspiring moment that you've had while working with sound healing.
Speaker 8 (42:34):
We've had a couple I think the I think the
nurse that we mentioned earlier in our dialogue that was
really remarkable. We helped her quite a bit between helping
alleviate her stomach pain, helping to alleviate some sleep.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Issues that she had, and we were fortunate. Sadly your
time came and she was on hospice.
Speaker 8 (43:00):
I'm charging that her husband, Yeah, it was sad, and
her husband was really a non believer in these things.
They grew up on farms and he's kind of great
salt of the earth, but he watched all of this.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
With his wife and he was so impressed and so
grateful for the relief that he really.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
He was just enamored with something he didn't understand, and
so he invited us to assist her when she was
literally in a hospice bed in her home, literally hours
before she passed, and we were able to provide a
reiki and sound therapy session for her. And you know,
it can feel a little gruesome, but her her body
(43:43):
was was fairly rigored and stiff and tense, and you know,
after we spent an hour with her and she's essentially unconscious,
non communicative and to watch the relaxation that took place
in her body and the the it was just amazing.
So this is not a conscious person who can dialogue
with us, and to see her body just relax and
(44:05):
see all of that tension melt away. I mean, her
husband was sobbing, We were crying, and she was able
to pass a few hours later in so much peace
and dignity. It was just a remarkable experience.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
How about you, Shelly, what has been your most inspiring
a moment?
Speaker 5 (44:24):
You know, I've had some.
Speaker 7 (44:24):
I'm going to go to the paranormal side here, since
we were heading that way all right. Had a very
interesting experience with a client who, you know, was just
kind of having issues clearing herself and felt like she
wasn't herself.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
And we went into the session with the intention.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
To clear some things from her and I could feel
that she had, you know, other energies with her. And
while we were giving reiki and I was working on
her feet, I saw a shadow being literally come out
of her body. It was about three feet tall. It
was very weird shaped, had like a square body, had
a head, arms, legs like and I thought to myself,
(45:09):
did I just see that.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
You know, you look couple times and it jumped off
of the bed.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
I literally saw it come off of the bed and
run behind the chair, and I thought, wow, well it
worked that we cleared her, But now what am I
going to do with you know, a shadow being in
the room. So we spent quite a bit of time
clearing the space after that. So that was an interesting event.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
So are you also an exorcist then?
Speaker 5 (45:38):
No, I would not call myself an exorcist.
Speaker 7 (45:40):
No, I aman I work with certainly happy to try
to clear and do all of those things. There's just
a weird connotation that may becomes with that word. But absolutely,
you know, I spend time focusing on clearing and trying
to help people get to their who they are in
their original state. Because we all attract energies, you know,
(46:03):
every day we're all around different energies that can attach
to us.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah, speaking about energies, what roll does all the new
electronic signatures that we have today going through each and
every one of us, for example, the microwaves, the G five,
the Y fives and so on, how does that affect
our natural energy within our bodies?
Speaker 7 (46:27):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I think it affects us in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 8 (46:31):
At the end of the day, you know, the body
has its own electro chemistry, and it has its own frequency,
and when you start exposing it to all of these
other artificial frequencies that aren't natural and aren't how our
bodies want to vibrate, they create all sorts of problems
for us. And then the other thing is is that
these energies they're addictive. So how many of us spend
(46:54):
the majority of our time with a phone in our hand.
I mean we're talking to each other at dinner and
our phones in our hand. We've literally almost lost the
ability to communicate normally. So I think it's I think
it's reprogrammed our brains, it's reprogrammed us socially. And so again,
I think it's the value of things like sound therapy
to remove people from those environments and to tell their
(47:17):
body how to go back and vibrate the way it
was intended to and not artificially with all of these inputs.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
Now, I would add to that that going out into
nature is the way to reset without the phone. With that,
it's making a commitment to get away from and leave
all the devices at home and go spend time in
nature to reset.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
But even if we leave the devices at home, the
frequencies are still out there. The microwaves are still out there,
the G five is still out there, the Wi Fi
is still out there. So even though the device isn't
with us, we still face the problem.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
All the time, yeah, which is interfering with our intuition
and our direct connection to source and spirit and guides
that help communicate with us. When we're bombarded with all
of these things, so very important to ground, put your
feet in the dirt, and you can, you know, get
away from them as much as you can. We have
devices in our house that help mitigate that. We have
(48:19):
a couple different things, and I believe that's helpful. That
you're right, it's very hard to get away from it.
Speaker 8 (48:24):
Yeah, I feel strongly though, and especially coming with my
martial arts background and sort of Chinese medicine chigong taichi.
I think when we are intentional about tuning in, we
can tune out and those things that are outside of
us don't have to penetrate. But when we aren't intentional
about creating that safe space within us, then I think
(48:47):
those things become.
Speaker 6 (48:48):
Just that much more harmful. Because you're right, it's out there,
whether we want it to be or not.
Speaker 8 (48:52):
But we don't have to be victimized by it if
we're intentional. So going out in nature is part of it.
Going out in nature intentionally is the way to prevent
those things from causing further damage.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Okay, I agree with you to a certain extent, But
how are you going to stop how is your How
are you going to train your body not to feel
the effects of G five, of the microwaves and other
aspects that are out there.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
Yeah, it's a fair question, and I think the analogy
for me is if we could use sound therapy and
reiki to keep chemotherapy from wrecking a woman and keeping
her from sleep and keeping her in constant pain, I'm
convinced we can do the same things to prevent other
energies from getting in us. It might be a bit
(49:43):
of a leap of faith, but I'm convinced if we're
energetically sound and we're vibrating at the level we're supposed to,
we'll attract like and those things won't want to come in.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
In all fairness, Mark, you only had success with one
person who had cancer, correct, Oh, that's the one.
Speaker 8 (50:03):
Yeah, that's one client we've had, We've had effects on
other clients.
Speaker 6 (50:07):
We focused on her, but there certainly have been others.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Who had cancer.
Speaker 6 (50:13):
I don't know, we've had folk. We've had folks who
had had cancer in the past.
Speaker 8 (50:17):
Yeah, she was going through it at the time, but
we've certainly had folks who have had cancer in the past,
and a variety of other.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, okay, quickly tell me about tell me about your
UFO U A P sightings.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
Well, that's fine, we've had a few, So you tell
the line about the first one with the Oh.
Speaker 8 (50:39):
Yeah, So we were coming home from from California. We
took our kids to California at one one year, and
we were crossing the California Nevada border, which is always
a weird place anyway, as far as I'm concerned. And
we had two orbs literally come over the top of
the car from the back of the car towards the front,
so we could see them zip out in front of
(51:00):
us through the windshield.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
And they paused in front of the vehicle, and they're
quite high. And this is in the daytime, mind you,
not at night. And they began almost.
Speaker 8 (51:12):
Bouncing in the air and circling around out in front
of the vehicle, and as soon as that happened, for
a handful of seconds, they literally split.
Speaker 6 (51:22):
One went right, one went left at high speed.
Speaker 8 (51:27):
There's certainly air force bases and military installations in the area,
but having grown up around military bases my dad was
in the Air Force, I've never seen an airplane do
with these things diad. So yeah, So that's one of
about a half a dozen sightings we've had. It was
probably one of the more remarkable, but we've had a
few others.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Tell me about another one. We've got about a minute
and a half left.
Speaker 7 (51:50):
So we had a very interesting experience on the way
to Mount Shasta and the whole way there, I was like,
come on, I want to see some crazy things, like
I want I'm all in right, I want to see
the actual like alien standing somewhere right and asking for
this to happen. And on the way there, we were
(52:12):
driving and we both looked up at this cloud and
it was the oddest thing.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
It took. It was a shape.
Speaker 7 (52:20):
It turned into a different shape like every second. It
turned into a shape of a wave, it turned into
a triangle, it turned into a circle. I can't even
remember all the shapes, but It's impossible for a cloud
to do that. It's impossible. And I didn't even say anything.
I just kept staring at it. And then I looked
at Mark and he was looking at it, and I'm like,
(52:40):
did you see that? And He's like, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
It was It was fairly interesting because we were driving
right next to a small grass fire and there was
when the smoke was going straight up, so the clouds
weren't moving.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
So why this thing morphed so many times in front.
Speaker 8 (52:57):
Of us and very specific shape and very shape and
then evaporated.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
There lies the mystery. Guys. I want to say thank
you so much for joining us tonight continued success. I
love what you're doing and just keep it up please,
and don't forget to drop us a line once once
in a while to let us know how you're doing.
Speaker 6 (53:17):
I appreciate you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
You guys, take care of yourselves. An excell nation. If
you'd like more information about our guests this hour, Golden
Dragonsound Andreiki dot Com. I'll be back on the other
side of this break as the X Zone continues with
yours truly. Rob McConnell from our broadcast center and studios
in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada on the xone broadcast network,
and coming to you tonight on your hometown radio, Classic
(53:40):
twelve twenty streaming at Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Coming
up on the other side of these short breaks, our
number two of the X Zone commences right now.
Speaker 9 (53:56):
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