Rob McConnell Interviews - MARLENE PELLICER - Miami Ghost Chronicles - The 'X' Zone Radio/TV Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Rob McConnell and welcome to the ex Zone, a
place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality. Today
on the X Zone, the Roswell Crash of nineteen forty seven.
In July of nineteen forty seven, something crashed near the
small town of Roswell, New Mexico. That something is believed
to have been a flying saucer by millions of UFO

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enthusiasts around the world, headed by nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman. Now,
Friedman has never seen any physical evidence of the alien
craft or the remains of its alien occupants, but bases
his belief on the stories that he has heard from
locals and townspeople alife. According to the United States Air
Force and other government agencies, the Roswell incident was not
a crashed alien ship. Friedman and his followers insist to

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this very day that the governments of the world are
covering up the fact that the aliens are here, and
that the denial of the UFO crash at Roswell, New
Mexico is proof of this global government cover up. Join
me Rob McConnell for another story from the world of
the paranormal and the science of parapsychology. When next we
meet in the ex Zone, the place where people dare
to Derek be hear.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh hnry. Welcome to the X Zone, a place where
fact is fiction and fiction is reality. Now here's your host,
Robert konnell.

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You to indasting YouTube, breaking my hearty into a million
pieces like you always do.

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And you.

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Don't need to be cool in there either.

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About the body.

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I go answers.

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It gets you there.

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Again.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Happy time, and welcome back to the Xzone every one.
I am Rob McConnell and for the next let me
see two hours, I will be your host and your
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dot com excell Nation. My guest first guest this hour

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is Marlene Palliser, and we're going to be talking to
Marlene about ghosts, the paranormal and much more. And joining
me now from Citra, Florida is Marlene Palliser. And Marlene,
welcome back to the X Zone. Great have you with
us again.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It is great to speak to you again. How are
you doing.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm doing very well, thank you. And you and I
were talking before we went on air. And this is
a very special holiday for you people down in the
United States this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yes, yes, this Monday's Memorial Day, which is Memorial for
the veterans in the United States Armed Forces. And of
course it's you get a day off, all right, Yeah,
let's be real about it. Yeah, And like we were saying,
it's you know, it's hot enough, so people are off
to the beaches and things like that.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So yeah, so it's all our can friends down in
the United States from your friends up here in the
United States. So all of those who have served in
any branch of the military. Thank you very much for
your service, and we certainly appreciate it. Yeah, so what's
new in the world of the paranormal the strange that are?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
You know what I wanted one of the last the
last time we spoke. I probably I know you speak
to a lot of people, rob but one of the
things that I wanted to that I think people would
find interesting is that, you know, the paranormal stuff I
had on one side as a paranormal investigator, but one point,
I was a hypnotherapist really years and besides regular hypnotherapy,

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I used to have alternative hypnotherapy, and throughout the years,
like on all things that you do, you get stories.
And one of the very unusual things that that it
was like happenstance that people would contact me was because
they had had some type of cryptid encounter. Right, okay,

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And at the beginning, how's this At the beginning, how
I was helping these people that contacted me was because
they were really suffering from anxiety. Reality for them had
kind of like tilted on its side for them to
the point that some of them were experiencing of sleeping,

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fear of being out anxiety, even people that were not
anxious to begin with, because they had had this experience
that totally that they couldn't somehow square in their head.
And like, for example, I'm going to tell you the
first story. This was back in you know, early two thousands.

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I used to get a lot of emails. This is
before so much of you know, we had so much
of the how we have it now, as far as
social media and people posting things, and you would get
emails and I had this I'm assuming he sounded like
a young guy tells me the story. How again people,
you know, he was kind of vague where he lived at,
but I'm gonna it was. It wasn't in Florida. He's

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saying how one day he goes out hunting with his
dad and apparently was a group of you know, I
guess his dad sounded like from his email they were hunters.
They had gone somewhere to hunt, and he was this
is he was all excited about going out there, and
he's talking about how they were going to stay out there,
you know, they were putting the camp together. And he

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says that all of a sudden he has one of
the men that comes back and it was already nighttime
and he sees them. He goes sees them like talking
like in a nod over there, and his father goes
over there, and he's like, oh, what's going on. All
of a sudden, his father comes back and tells him,
put your stuff in the back of the truck. We're leaving.
And he's like, what, everybody's clearing out, and he and

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his dad he could tell he's He even kind of explained,
I know my dad when he gets upset, you know,
or scared, gets upset, That's how I know. And his
dad was like, let's not talk about it. Just put
your stuff on the back. We're leaving right now. Everybody left,
and he couldn't figure out what happened. So fast forward,
I guess, and he apparently he was apparently somebody had

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seen something in the woods, which he thought was really
weird because theawards are all experienced hunters and outdoorsmen. So
but he goes back home and he describes in the
email how apparently he would get home before any of
his Uh he never really mentioned if he had siblings,
but he didn't mention anybody else was there. But it's

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before his parents. He was a teenager. So he says,
he describes how he gets home and it's a two
story house, and he says, I usually would stop into
the kitchen to get something to eat, and he says
he hears something creak upstairs, like somebody's upstairs. So he's like,
that's weird. So he said he's like takes the stairs,

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which he says, the bedrooms and everything were up there.
And he says that he's at the foot of the
stairs and all of a sudden, he hears something growl
and he just like what And then from what he said,
my you know, we kept our dogs outside, like there
were no dogs inside the house. So he was like,
what is that? So he starts going up the stairs
and he says that apparently these stairs had a landing

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that switched back in other words, and he says, when
I got to that landing, I could basically look down
the hallway of the second floor that opened up to
the bedrooms. And he says he described but by the way,
when he described this to me in the email now
later on, when he said it sound and looked like

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a wolf or werewolf wolf, Okay, yeah, he says that
he just like jumped over the banister from the landing
and left to I guess his grandparents lived close by,
and he waited till everybody got home. And then he
says he didn't tell anything to his dad or anything.
He says, like a few months after that, he says,

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like after that, he never went home after school to
be home again by himself. He would go to his
friend's house or his grandparents' house, but he never came
back home to be alone. So a few months later
he finally asked his dad. He says, why was it? Oh,
and he says, he mentions how after that some of
the people, because it sounded like this was like a

(09:19):
rural area from what he described, people were complaining that
they were losing livestock and animals and chickens and things
like that. And then it just died away, just stopped.
And he was like, he says, he and the thing
he could understand, you know, like this baffled him that
he was saw. He finally one day got into the
conversation with his father and he said, why did we
leave that day of the hunting? Why did you just

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and you never told me why? And his father tells him, well,
one of these men that was out there. He said
he saw something and goes on to describe that basically,
what he saw was something like a dog man like
a werewolf is how he used He didn't use the
word dog man, said like a were wolf. And he
said that some of the other hunters said number one,

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He says, I know that man and he would never lie.
Plus it was another hunter that was more familiar with
the area, and he says, I haven't seen him, but
I have heard of other hunters having seen this. I said,
just we just leave right now. And then he turns around.
He tells his father, well, you know what happened right
after we came back that day that I came home
from school. This is what I saw. And his dad

(10:27):
was like, why didn't you tell me? And he goes,
for the same reason, you didn't tell me one of
those things, and he says it was it was something
he never saw something like that again, and it was
like an email. In other words, he was just I
think this guy was like telling me this because he
wanted to say it to somebody, because I used to
receive a lot of weird emails and by these, I

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don't mean bad, but just people talking about very unusual
experiences people ventually. Yeah, and back then I had. And
when I read it, I was like, wow, you know
a wolf man. I'm thinking werewolf.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I was like, and you took it for what it was,
all right, It wasn't try to convince me or anything.
And I just put that away as well, that's a
very unusual story. Wow. Okay, all right, fast forward a
few years. I have my regular clients and I'm not
gonna say all the time, but I would do MP

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three before them to calm down, like go to sleep,
put him into rem sleep and everything. And I get
a call from one of my clients, you know, because
besides smoking, cessation, awake control, behavior modification that they She
tells me, Morley, there's a gentleman. He's a friend of
our families. We've known him for a really long time.
I'm not really sure what's going on with him, but

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he's a nervous wreck. And I had told him how
you did those MP three for me? And I'm really
sleeping well and you know, I'm doing really well if
I remember correctly, she had come to me for smoking.
And is it okay if he calls you, but he
won't tell us what it is. I just don't know
what it is. But this guy's a nervous wreck. And
he was always a very nice, controlled person. I said, sure,

(12:04):
he calls me again, very generic. You can tell he's
very careful about identifying himself or what he you know,
where he is, and is like, you want to call
yourself John, that's fine, okay, you know, And I said, look,
you know he's a hemming and hawing. And I said,
you know what, they told me that you're having a
little bit of a problem sleeping, and I understand you

(12:26):
know what's causing it. They kind of told me that
you're very put together person, and you know, it took
like a little schmoozing. But if you don't want to
tell me, that's fine. And I go by the way,
I've heard a lot of weird stuff, so don't worry
about it.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
All right, Marlene, We're going to have to have a
bit of a cliffhanger here. I do have to take
our first break, so please stand by explanation or I
guess this hour is Marlene Palliser and her website is
Miami ghost Chronicles dot com. And Marlene and I will
be back as we continue this investigation. This quest that
we're on here in the X zone. We're searching for answers,

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Speaker 1 (15:24):
Hey, welcome back to the One. Rob McConnell here, this
is the X Zone and you're listening to us on
the X Zone Broadcast Network and your hometown radio Classic
twelve twenty streaming Classic twelve twenty dot CA. My guest
this hour is Marlene Pelliser. She is a paranormal researcher, writer, writer, hypnotherapist,
and subconscious behaviorist. And if you'd like to get more

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information about Marlene, or maybe you'd like to contact her
for a one on one consultation, her website is Miami
ghost Chronicles dot com. All right, let's get back to
the story that you were telling us before we had
to take that break.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Okay, So here's this gentleman. You could tell he's being
very vague, but at the same time there's this and
I kind of like reassured him. Look, I've heard different things,
because you always after a while, you know that people
sometimes are afraid that you're gonna laugh, like are you
crazy or some one of those deals. Since finally I
kind of convinced him, and I guess I got a

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good recommendation from my other client. And he tells me, well,
it was something I saw, and I said, what did
you see? So he goes on to explain to me
that he had been a security guard for many years
and but he what he explained it was the company
he worked for usually was doing security around like heavy

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equipment or in where they were building, you know something,
and they would lead construction, big construction things. So he
tells me very hesitatingly, by the way, so I'm gonna
you know, I'm doing that kind of like the condensed
version how he's working. He says, one of the things
was I was always they would always put me at
night because I wouldn't fall asleep. He says, they they

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and I think that's a lot of the people couldn't
handle working over nights because they would fall asleep. And
he said he had already gotten a rhythm to where
he it was fine for him to work at night.
So he says how one day his boss comes up
to him and goes, hey, we're going to switch you
out from where you're at. We're going to put you
at this other place. It's a construction site. They're building
some housing out somewhere. He didn't give me a place,

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but you know, like it sounded like the edge of somewhere,
and he was like, that's weird, okay. And he says
that from what he was explaining to me, where apparently
they had their lockers and you know, where they would
change out. And he says that he's in that locker.
Later on and he sees the guy that he knew
was out there. He says, we were really friends. I

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knew who he was, and he knew me, but not really,
but I knew he was the one out there. And
he's like looking weird every once in a while, glancing
at me, and I'm thinking, this guy, maybe he got
in trouble. He fell asleep one of those deals because
apparently they didn't need guards during the daytime while the
construction was going on. It was at night time. Because
he says, oh, I ran into that. People get in
trouble at fall asleep whatever. So he says he goes

(18:12):
out there and the he was thinking, ah, you know,
like I had nothing to do with that. So he says,
he goes. He says that what they did, they did.
He says the it was a neighborhood and he says,
they we're just building at that point the models. They
had paid the roads, but there were really no houses
and they were in the middle of putting together like

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three models. And he says, we had a guard shack
and they have like a you know, we would drive
there and then we would they have like a golf cart.
And he says, I'm off on the yard. We had
all the big construction that they were using and things
like that, and they just didn't want anything taken sure,
and he says, okay, fine, He's like okay, and he
says he just hangs out there, doesn't nothing. It's very quiet.

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He says, it was like on the edge. It was
like against the woods. So I'm gonna, I assume that
when he was tell me it was like on the
it wasn't like in the middle of the city in
other words, So finally he he says that a couple
of nights later, he uh, he sees where it was
one of these neighborhoods where it's one way in, one
way out, one road that takes you out in one

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and hits about two or three in the morning, and
he sees, uh, he says, I could hear by matt
music that were playing. Was a bunch of teenagers or something,
and he says that as soon as they saw him,
they just turned around. He left right, So he's like, okay,
no big deal. And he said that a couple of
I think it was around that time that one time
he's he would go around the models and he he
had like he says, it smelled like it was like

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a like a dead animal, and that's what he thought
it was. He thought, well, something in the woods died.
He smelled really bad. So the next day the guy
that used to work there comes up to him one
day and tells him because by the way, that's one
of the things he told me that they weren't carrying
any firearms. They were like n you know, they were
just patrolling there. This gentleman tells him, hey, by the way,

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you got a gun, and he looked at him and
he says, yeah, I do, but it's at home. He goes, well,
if I were you, I would take that with me
when I go out there. And he looked at the guy, like,
what's wrong with you? And he's thinking, is this guy like,
was he weirding out because some teenagers were going to
go in there, you know, maybe tag or you know,
some type of He's like, he's like, all right, what's
wrong with this guy? So he's like, all right, whatever.

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He still doesn't get it, so he says that a
couple of times, he says, he would, you know, go
around in the cart, and he says a couple of
times he heard like something moving through inside the woods,
but he thought, okay, this is some type of animal.
He says it sounded heavier, but he says, uh so
then he started a couple of times, he says the
yard where they were keeping the heavy equipment was like

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on the other side of this huge area and it
had those big lights that they put up on the posts.
And he says like a couple of times he was
at the shock and he thought it looked like there
was shadow movement over there. So he's singing all these kids,
so he says he rides over there and there's nothing there.
That happened a couple of times. Then he starts saying
he got A day later, he starts getting that weird
feeling I'm being watched, and he's like, because he's out there,

(21:06):
there's nobody out there. But he's like, this guy's gotten
in my head, you know, with telling me that thing
about the gun, and I'm now I imagining stuff. So
one day he this was like he tells me. It's
like about a week later that he's down to that job.
Finally he's thinking. Basically, he's thinking this these kids trying
to come in there and do some type of graffiti

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or something. Because one of the times he's by the
models and he hears it all around It was gravel.
It was full of gravel, and he heard like, you know,
like you know when somebody steps on gravel.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
That crunching sound.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, So he's like, yeah, I'm going to catch these kids,
you know, they're thinking that. So he says that the
way the models were they had the walls built, they
had trusses, but they had no windows. It was just
the holes. It was, you know, the houses were just
going up. So he says, I'm gonna you know. So
he says, he leaves his little golf cart down the

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road with lights on, and he doubles back and he
on foot into one of the models and he says,
I go in through the door that eventually goes into
the garage area. All right, So he's like hearing a
little bit of noise in there, and he does, I'm
gonna get him. So he says, he's coming up and
you know how the garages you have a door that
leads usually from the garage into a kitchen area. This

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is what he's describing. He had come in through what
I guess would have been the side door. Well, it
was an opening. So he's coming up and he hears
some type of noise something going on in there. So
he says, I come around the side and he says,
and from this doorwhere I could look into what eventually
would be the kitchen. And he says, and there was
this big opening where I guess they were going to

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put in a big sliding glass door for I guess
a family room, marry or something like that, and he says,
I was looking and he says, and he described what
look like a dog man, a werewolf. This is what
he told me. You could tell when he told me this.
He just stopped because he was waiting for me to like, go,
what are you talk about? And I said, really, and

(23:02):
what else? What else happened? And you could he just
and he goes, look, I'm really glad that I was
standing up against the wall, because I'll be honest, I
think I would have fallen down if I hadn't been
like leaning up against the wall. He was trying to
sneak up on what he thought were these kids in there,
and he says he looked at it. It was facing outward,
and he says it was very much like what you

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hear is what we now call dog men. Tall bipedal,
which is what wigged him out very badly later on,
he told me, and very massive dog type of head.
He says he couldn't really see anything as far as
he only saw it in profile once, but the heavy shoulders,
the long arms, very humanoid, but with basically like a

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dog head on it, maybe eight to nine feet tall.
More or less, he says, I didn't. He says, it
just He says, it just was staring out the opening
that eventually would be some type of sliding glass door,
and then it just went off. It walked off, and
he says, I didn't know what to do. He goes, Marlene,
I was standing up against that wall because I think

(24:09):
I would have fallen down, and I didn't know whether
to leave or to stay. What was I going to do?
He says. He goes, I really don't know how long
it was there, at fifteen minutes thirty, I don't know,
And he says, at some point I just said well
and he just basically ran got into the car. He says,
I stayed in the in my guard shack for the

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rest of the night. He says. The next morning, he says,
I didn't even you know, I went home, and he says,
I called out sick for three days and I said,
I can't you know, I'm going to lose my job.
So he says he went back the like on the
third day and he tells his supervisor, look, I need
to talk. And by the way, he tells me, I
wasn't sleeping. He says, those days it wasn't going anywhere,

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it wasn't sleeping. So he goes in and he talks
his boss and he says, look, I don't want to
do this job anymore. I want you to put me
back what I was doing before this, and he says
that his boss looks at him and says, okay. He
says later on, he says, I was very at that point.
I was like, thank god, he says, later on, I
realized that's really weird that he didn't ask me why,

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why wait, why wouldn't you want to go back there?
You know something wrong. He just said, okay, we'll put
you back what you were doing before, and he and
then he fast forwards. However, since that had happened, and
I want to say that maybe it had happened like
six months before he called, he contacted me. He He says,
I had never had any problems working by myself, working

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at night. I had done it for years, he says.
I got to the point that if I was outside
and I saw it, he says, and I didn't live
in the woods. I lived like in a town. It
was like an urban setting. If it was getting dark,
I would make sure I would be inside. I was
I couldn't sleep. This man's reality just went on its side.

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He could not with it. And because for him, and
I told him, you know, in other words, I this
this man didn't sound like oh, and you know, in
various times he assured me I'm not crazy by the
way I'm telling you, like because he's trying to like
out guess what I'm thinking. Something wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right, Marlene, we have to take another break, so
please stand by. This is a fascinating story. Explanation. Marlene
Palliser is our guest and her website is www dot
Are you ready explanation Miami Ghost Chronicles dot com. And
we'll both be back as we continue this fascinating story
about a gentleman who's a security guard who has an

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encounter with a cryptid known as dog Man. This is
the X One. I'm rob McConnell. Will be back after
this break. Don't go away.

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Speaker 1 (27:01):
I'm Robin Connell and welcome to the X Zone, a
place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality. Today
on the X Zone, the Great Lakes Triangle of North America.
Found in the heartland of North America, these landlocked yet
connected lakes, which eventually empty into the Atlantic Ocean, have
become the scene of more mysteries involving ships, aircraft, people,

(27:24):
UFO ghosts, and vantom ships than the Bermuda Triangle. One
sixteenth the size of the Bermuda Triangle. Lady John Grave
Simcoe was the first European to chronicle the strange georges
of life that have been seen above and blow the
waters of Lake Ontario. First Canadians tell of great cities
which surrounded the Great Lakes where men flew without wings.
The Great Lakes Triangle of North America one of the
world's greatest mysteries, right in our own backyard.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Don't give up on us believing, and don't like the scene.
The future isn't just fun night, it's written in the light.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Stars weak at changel.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
Don't give up on a s babe who is still.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
With one.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Motra and welcome back everyone. Hey do you remember Starsky
in Hutch? Well that's David Soul who used to play Starsky.
And let me see the other one was Michael Paul Glacier. Yeah,
he played Hutch or was it the other way around?
But anyway, that's David Soul from Starsky and Hutch don't

(28:56):
give up on us. Martlvine Palliser is our guest. Marlene,
you were telling us about this this security guard who
came to you and during the conversation he was telling
you about having an encounter or run in with the
cryptid known as Dogmen.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yes, and this is basically he was suffering with the
aftermath of that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Would that be like PTSD PTSD.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And like like a one moment PTSD exactly that he
was suffering all the symptoms that you hear people with PTSD.
The memory was very fresh in his mind. He was
reliving it and he was in other words, it it
just everything about his life was turned upside down because
he was. And the thing was because people say, well,

(29:42):
he wasn't sleeping. He was sleeping, but the problem is
he he wasn't going into what they called REM sleep,
which is very necessary for your brain to basic to
what's the word, to go through everything you do on
a daily basis, and then you wake up. When you
don't go into REM sleep, you wake up and you
feel fuzzy headed. And some of those are the people
that will say, oh, I still feel tired even though

(30:04):
I supposed to leave slept eight hours and that was
his problem. He was sleeping technically, but he wasn't going
into REM sleep. He was that light sleep because you
become hyper vigilant. You're trying to listen for every little noise,
and that's he recognized that. So he you know, I
helped him. I gave him some MP three recordings, real
short ones, just to like suggestibility to put him down

(30:26):
into REM sleep, and eventually, you know, this helped him.
It was one of those things where you don't have
a final resolution as far as what happened with him,
all right, I think at this point you could tell
he's the kind of person speaking to him that he was.
You know, when somebody's very I don't want to say rigid,

(30:47):
but they're very down to earth, and then this happens
and it's and this really shook him up because, like
I said, I guess when you have that experience, you think, well,
what else is out there that I think doesn't exist?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
And it does, so you're starting to question his own sanity.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Basically, yes, in a way. But the thing is, I'm
saying like it and he sounded like again, one of
these I don't want to say not imaginative, but in
a way. Yeah, you know one of these people that
was like very down to earth. His imagination was okay,
but it wasn't like he was used to like, oh
I could you know imagine that. It was like he
knew what he had seen, right and lucky for him,

(31:25):
you know that. And he always said, I always wondered
why my boss never asked me why I didn't want
to go back there. And he says, I think that
that other guy told him something, he saw something, or
he my boss heard something and he didn't even bother
to ask me why had changed my mind?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Is it possible that, in the boss's opinion, he was
such a good worker, I.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Think that was it. He didn't want to lose him.
He didn't say like, well why and I need you
there or something like that. And he says, and I
didn't even he says, I never I didn't want to
know who they sent out there, Like I didn't want
to like know anything else about that who was sent
out there? Nothing I want to know, No, And then
you know I lost touch with him because this was

(32:08):
over the phone because he was out of state, and
that was it. And then you know, I thought of
when I heard that description was like, I thought of
that kid's email a few years back. I was like,
that's very interesting. Again, you know, you don't regardless of
what this man saw, Like I said, I found it
very difficult to believe he wasn't doing drugs. But it's like,
you believe him because he thought it was real. How's that?

(32:31):
And then fast forward one day, this is again usually
the I get a call. This is a this this gentleman.
He wasn't a recommendation. He was he He found me.
I can't remember how and he calls me up and
he says, do you know with hypnosis, can you make

(32:52):
people forget something? I was like, what, Usually it's the
other way around. I work with people for hypnosis, either
to recover memories or for memory retention, like people that
blank out when they do exams, or I even had
people that had put stuff away, jewelry or important papers
and they couldn't remember, and we would use hypnosis just

(33:12):
like you know, I'm sure you've heard of people having
under hypnosis recovered memories from alium and abductions, anything like that,
but I had never had that. I said, well, not really,
I can help you remember something, and he goes, I
want to not remember something. I was like, okay, I said,
I can't do that, but why don't you tell me

(33:33):
what it is that you don't want to remember? And
maybe I can help you with that. Maybe because you
sound like you're again, you know, you could a little
bit more, he says, guy's hyperventilating. Same thing, you know,
which this is on the phone. I can be remain
anonymous and I can sound really cool cuckoo and you
don't know who I am. Kind of deal. I said,
why don't you tell me what happened? Or what is it?

(33:53):
What is it that's bothering you? And he goes on
to tell me how again, this is how to state
because I know that you know from the way he
was describing it, he's going, he says, I was. Yeah. Again,
I'm giving the condensed version of how I talked him into. Like,
I'm not going to laugh at you or hang up
on you. He says me. I'm coming down the road.
It was at night. He goes, I'm this is an

(34:15):
area where neither was a lot of deer. So I
was coming down this road it was night and you
know it's wooded, and I didn't want to hit no deer.
And he says, and sure enough, I see this dough
come streaking out of the woodline, you know, on my
right hand side. And he says, there was like a
little like an embankment up from the It was like

(34:35):
a woodline, then a little field, and then it went
up and then across the road, is how you described it.
And I see this deer com baulting out of the woodline,
he says, And that was weird because normally you see
these deer just grazing along the sides of the road,
but this one just came bolting at it. But thankfully
I was traveling slow and I almost had my foot

(34:57):
on the brake, so I stopped. And then he says,
how he sees something run off the he sees something
chasing He doesn't, He says, he doesn't because his headlights
are only illuminating the road where he's at, so he
sees movements, something coming behind. So he's again, what what's

(35:20):
coming after this deer because he's thinking, I've never had
this where something's hunting this thing at night. And he
says that the deer comes over stops him in it
on the road in front of his car because he's
come to a dead stop, then bounds off, and then
he says he's all of a sudden, he looks to
his right and he sees something first that comes on

(35:42):
all fours, comes up the embankment, gets up on the road,
and then straightens up, and it's the same thing. It's
a dog man. He's telling me this thing. He says
that he and this is really what he And then
he says it looked at him like swiveled his head
at him, like at his headlights, and then just bound

(36:03):
it off. But he says that once it reached the
other side, it took off on all fours and he
this is the again. This gentleman was having a hard
time coming to grips with what he had seen. He goes,
you know, I saw this in my headlight. It was
really dark out there because there was no ambient light.
There was no city lighting or nothing. It was very dark.

(36:26):
But both of these animals came in front of my
car in the headlights, and he says he couldn't. He says,
there was a mistake, and he tells me the whole thing.
It wasn't a bear, and it wasn't this, and it
wasn't that, And I couldn't mistake it. I know what
it saw, and I saw it walk on two legs.
And this poor man was having a very hard time

(36:48):
with this. And I said, I'm going to say because
I know for men, I could almost say I thought
this guy was in a way almost about to bust
out in tears. And I don't mean this in a
bad way, but when somebody's really desperate, and he says,
and I don't want to remember that, I can't. I
can't forget that. I don't want to be In other words,
I can't get rid of that memory. I can't. I

(37:10):
want you. There's not any way you can make me
forget that. And I said, look, I can't do that.
That doesn't exist. But let's try to amped down, and
can I tell you something? And he goes what he goes,
You know, I've heard of this before. He goes what
I go. I have had other people tell me a
similar story to what you just told me. And this
guy just about it. I could have heard him sigh

(37:31):
over the phone. He goes, what really? I said, Yeah,
I don't know what it is, but I have had
contact with other people who have described something very similar
to what you just told me, and this man was like,
really again, this is before. This is before the parlance
of the dog man and the cryptid thing was so

(37:52):
common as it is now.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
So you gave him validation of what he thought and may.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Have exactly he was. You could tell like a weight
have been lifted off his shoulders.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I think the same thing has happened through it the paranormal,
whether it be ghost whether it be alien abduction, whether
it be alien contact, whether it be the sighting of Bigfoot,
whatever that Thanks to the Internet and the people that
we get on our show, there are many people out

(38:22):
there who have now in their hearts side that you know,
oh God, because they know they're not alone exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
And people sometimes when they fear being ridiculed, whether by
their family or friends, right sometimes even they have a
certain job that they're like, I can't tell anybody about this.
Either I'm going to get mocked, or they might even
send the men in white for me on one of
those deals because it was so outside. And again, you know,
I worked with him a little while and I got him.

(38:56):
You know, as far as this, I want to say,
is the biggest problem for people I have these experiences
rob there Besides their their life. They can't. They have
a problem, the anxiety that they can't sleep. Yeah, their
sleep is really poor when they wake up every couple
of hours. And what he was telling me is that
every little noise he would hear in his house, he
was like, oh, like he says, I wasn't his mad.

(39:18):
I was like fully awake, awake, And then he says,
and then I couldn't fall back asleep. And I just
kept replaying what I had seen over and over again.
And every little thing I heard was that thing. And
he says, and I if I remember Courtney said something. Oh.
I even bought like extra dead bolts from my doors.
Oh God, even though this the setting was totally different.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
All right, Send by Marlene. You and I have to
take our final break for this hour and x OWE Nation.
This is the x owone. Marlene Palliser is our special
guest and her website is www dot Miami ghost Chronicles
dot com. Marlene and I come back here in the
X Zone from our broadcast center and sit Rio since St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,

(40:02):
and you're listening to us on your hometown radio Classic
twelve twenty streaming Classic twelve twenty dot no, We've.

Speaker 8 (40:10):
Come this one.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
You can't be stay away.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
The angel and the dreamer who sometimes plays a.

Speaker 8 (40:27):
Food don't give alongside.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Some people call me your bead apple roop. I may
be bruised, but I still tay sweet. Some people call
me your bad head apple, but I'm may be the
sweetest apple on the tree.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
I've got the notion to tell you about my history
the people. I've got the notion to tell you about
how it came up in the world.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Now.

Speaker 7 (41:15):
Look, I used to go to school at the Clown
and Food and I used to chase the ladies.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
All around, give me songs.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
I used to spend my money and I had acted.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Funny until I hit my nose on the ground.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Some people call me a bad.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And welcome back. That's David Wilcox, a Canadian artist who
is here in Saint Catharines. A couple of months ago
put on a great show. Wow, I remember that song
way back when talking about a bad apple. I think
a number of those apples and that barrel were bad
at one time or another explanation. Marlene Pallisers are our
special guest www. Dot Miami ghost Chronicles dot com and Marlene,

(42:06):
how did you get into hypnosis. You know, you're an investigator,
paranormal investigator, you're a writer.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
It was one of those things. One thing has nothing
to do with the other, like it was my As
a matter of fact, none of my clients ever knew
that I was doing the paranormal, even though I did
go it into alternative alternative things. As far as hypnosis,
I never put to to you know, I kept those
things totally separate. But I've always been you know, because

(42:35):
I consider myself a subconscious behaviorist, and when you study hypnosis,
you understand very well how the subconscious really works, which
is a lot of times it really dictates our behavior
despite what we are. Logic tells us that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So I imagine being a hypnotherapist and a behavioral behaviorists
or subconscious behaviorist, that this certainly is an asset to
you when doing a paranormal investigation.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Sure, and you besides that, you know the that you
realize sometimes what how's this? What motivates people as far
as and in some cases, I want to say mental illness.
I'm not talking about something extreme, but sometimes there's a
flavor of mental illness with certain clients that they come
and they ask you for an investigation, and you realize

(43:25):
there's something else going on there, right, or the or
the lack thereof that there is that these people have
their feet firmly on the ground and there's something they're experiencing,
something that's going on. But you know, any type of
paranormal researcher will tell you the first thing they want
to do is rule out the ordinary, because that's really

(43:46):
what you're there for. You know, you don't go in
there assuming right away that it is a paranormal source
for what, you know, whatever they're calling you for. I'm
talking here. If you're going in for residential this is different.
Let's say, if you go to one of these stored
places that's got a reputation for being haunted, that's different.
I'm talking about as far as when you're talking ordinary

(44:06):
people that call you in because they're saying, look, I'm
having these experiences or something's going on, and so this
helps you read them a little a little better despite
what they might answer on their questionnaire. Absolutely yes.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Has there ever been a time, either as a hypnotherapist
or a subconscious behaviorist that you are just blown away
by what you were hearing coming out of the person
in front of you.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Sure, especially when when you get to I guess when
people start trusting when you like again in this, when
you can tell when somebody really there's something really going.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
On, how's this okay?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
That they can get you kind of earned the trust
a little bit, then they start telling you stories that
in some cases, some people have been for lack of
a w they're haunted. They have been having paranormal experiences
of some type almost their whole lives, and they either
they get into a situation where they basically can't handle

(45:09):
it and they call for help, and I mean, or
we could get into something that some paranormal researchers are
acquainted with, which is intergenerational. I don't want to say curses,
but basically the family is haunted. It's almost like a
generational thing. I mean, it has a lot of different sources.
But when you speak to people, you realize that you've

(45:31):
been doing you know, you've had these experiences for how long?
And then they did disclose like basically a history. And
some of these things are not subtle by the way,
and somehow they function, or then in another case it's
interfered very badly with their lives.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I guess it would. Yes, now there's something wrong, but
they just don't know where it is. And I would
imagine the very last place where they would even think
of looking would be the paranormal.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And some people, to be I think some people understand it.
They just houses if if I well, I think some
of them in some cases they if I ignored, it'll
go away kind of thing, right, And then you'll go
through these people that they'll do the I'll move away
from this place because it's the place where I'm at,
and all of a sudden you realize, like three maybe

(46:22):
three moves later, that it's not the place. It's you,
you know, and for some reason, like everything else, and
also stress levels in somebody's life, you people go into
like dormancy stages where as far as paranormal occurrences, and
then for some reason, some places that might even have

(46:44):
their own thing there, you see an uptick in activity
or if they're stressed out in their personal lives. Sometimes
you also hear it. You get together with somebody and
it's like TNT, Wow, everything goes off scale because the
maybe the person and they've hooked up has some type
of spiritual turbulence that's walking with them, and then you
got the recipe for a super amped up, you know,

(47:09):
and they'll tell you. You know, I've had these things
on and off for a while, but never like this.
I said, Okay, when what happened? You know, we try
to trace it back to this point of origin, when
you met this person, this, this, and that. I've I've
even had instances where the point of origin is they've
picked up a curb side piece of furniture.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I've heard that happen.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
That is the point of when things went south for them.
And and a lot of people don't realize because everybody
always thinks of the spooky object as the one that's
going to have something attached to it. You'd be surprised.
Maybe that was grandpa's favorite easy chair that's practically brand new,
and the family just left it at the curb and

(47:53):
you're like, wow, what a find. Yeah, and guess why
grandpa is still in the chair because this was his
favorite chair. But that's a for instance. And I've had
and if some for lack of a better word, some
of those things dissipate by themselves, but other times you
will have darker attachments. Either for what was the use

(48:16):
of the object or whoever owned it. Sometimes it can
have very very dark I can I tell you manifestations?
How's that? And then then ye's when you catch people
that they can't understand why this is happening the way
it's happening. Sometimes they'll start having horrific nightmares. And because

(48:39):
not everybody goes, you know, contrary to what we see
in Hollywood, did you see like furniture flying around the house,
Sometimes it's much more subtle, but much more horrifying. As
far as when people start getting haunted, how's that?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
I think it's easier for them to justify the the
chair flying around the room. Sure, then would you just
to watch, let's say, an ashtray on the coffee table
in front of you slowly move its way across the table.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Oh yeah, yes, of course. And by the way, sometimes
that movement sometimes it can be displaced kinetic energy. One
time I had a case. There was a couple and
one of the things they tell me, she says, the
wife she was, she was like in her twenties. I
start talking to you, she tells me. Oh, sometimes I'll
have plates in my sinks start to like rattle by themselves,

(49:30):
Like when the cups and the all that, And I said, really,
And I said, when does that happen? Oh? No, has
that ever happened to you? Make a long story short.
She tells me that when she was a teenager in
adolescent I guess she had like a kind of a
strained relationship with her parents, and when she would get upset,
some of her stuffed animals would move. All right, She's

(49:53):
telling me this, and I'm like, this is And when
she's telling me this, I'm thinking, this is not a hunting.
And then later on I find doubt that. Apparently the
marriage was in trouble, and I think she was. It
was displaced kinetic energy that she was putting out. That
that's what she would do when she was super stressed out.
It wasn't a ghost, in other words, but you always
have to look at that aspect.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
It also sounds like it could have been a poltergeist.
The energy of the young person is just suppressing it
to a certain point that it creates telekinesis, and telekinesis
moves objects. And you're right, it's a it's not always.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
It's not always per se the ghost or this usual suspect.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Marlene, We've got about two minutes. What are your final
thoughts and what would you like to share with the
x OR Nation tonight.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well, I will tell you here. By the way, these stories,
these these were between years. Years would go by and
I'm going to relate back after there was another another
client down the road that had a similar experience, but
he was he came into my office. But bottom line,
this always brought me back to that first email that
I got. It was around two were that kid's telling

(51:02):
me this experience, and when I read it at the beginning,
I just put it away, and all of a sudden,
I thought, this is what he was talking about. This
is what he was saying, that they had left that
hunting and what he saw inside his house. And then
I started researching. And I have heard in some cases
where people have seen dog men and somehow or other,

(51:23):
the dog man shows up where they live. I never
heard of that before and when originally So sometimes is
that truth is stranger than fiction. There's a lot out
there we don't know about.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Tell me, have you yourself ever had an experience with
that cryptid?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I had one, and that I'm not even sure if
it's one. To be honest with you, I wasn't sure
because I never really saw something. I just saw something weird.
It was just the place in the setting in again.
And this was back in the eighties, nineteen eighty four,
all right, so yeah, but it was back then. The
CRYPTI wasn't even in my lexicon. It was like, it

(51:59):
was just a very weird feeling, a very unusual situation
that I had. And I don't know, we have time
to talk about it, but.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, we've got about sixty seconds before we have to
say so long.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Ah. You know what, Me and my hobby, we're young,
we have a little girl. We decide we're going to
go to Yellowstone National Park in a Chevy van and
we parked at a trailer park and I decided I
was going to sleep outside because he was sleeping in
the back with the baby inside the van. And I'm
out there in the middle of the night. I heard
some rustling and I'm thinking it's a raccoon, and I

(52:30):
saw something. What really wigged me out was that it
was very tall. Something I saw something you know when
you look at the tree line, yep. And somehow I've
managed to get myself very slowly in back into my van.
I didn't tell my husband because I know he would
have rolled out of there. He had been driving all day,
by the way, and he probably would have knocked himself

(52:51):
on The baby was asleep next to him, and he
was really mad when I told him the next day.
But I went and I sat in the driver's chair
and I rolled up all the windows.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, so, yeah, it was one of those things. I
don't know exactly what it was. That's why I never
say that it was per se, a crypto siding, or
a bigfoot sighting or anything. It was. We had just
gone into Colorado.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I hate to do this, Marlene, and we're gonna have
to get you back on the show to talk to
some other great stories about the investigations that you've done
and much more so. Thank you very much for joining
us x O Nation. Marlene Peliser has been our guest,
and if you'd like to contact Marlene, her website is
Miami Ghost Chronicles dot com. I'll be back on the

(53:36):
other side of this break as the Xzone continues with
our number two right here from our broadcast center and
studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on the X one
broadcast network and you're listening to us on your hometown
radio Classic twelve twenty, streaming Classic twelve twenty dot CA.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
How I came up in the world, Now, look, I
used to go to school at the Clown all that food,
and I used to

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