June 4, 2025 • 55 mins
Good evening, ‘X’ Zone Nation, and welcome to another edition of The 'X' Zone Radio Show, where we cross the boundaries of science, spirituality, and the unexplained. My guest tonight is someone whose story will resonate with anyone who has ever faced loss, asked what lies beyond, or searched for light in the darkest of places. Phil Webster is a British author, actor, and spiritual explorer whose profound journey through grief led to a stunning spiritual awakening. Through his bestselling books Letting Glow and Glowing Deeper, Phil invites readers into his world of mediumship, past lives, synchronicity, and the continuation of consciousness beyond death. What began as a personal search for answers has become a passionate mission to help others reconnect with the eternal bonds of love, soul, and spirit. You can learn more about Phil and his work by visiting his website at phillwebster.com. Tonight, we'll explore life after loss, spiritual connection, and the glowing truth about who — and what — we really are.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 4 (01:17):
Fun time.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And welcome back every one, two hour, number two of
tonight's show, and you're listening to the x oone Radio
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happen in the future when there is a n VP
that blocks knocks out all all G networks and people
don't have cell phones anymore. It's going to be disastrous,
But that's for another show. My guest this hour is
someone whose story you will resonate with anyone who has
ever faced lost, asked what lies beyond, or search for
(02:09):
the light in the darkest of places. Phil Webster is
his name, and Phil is a British author, actor and
spiritual explorer who's profound journey through grief led him to
a stunning spiritual awakening. Through was best selling books Letting
Glow and Glowing Deeper, Phil invites readers into his world
of mediumship, past live, synchronicity, and the continuation of consciousness
(02:32):
beyond death. What began as a personal search for answers
has become a passionate mission to help others reconnect with
the eternal bonds of love, soul, and spirit. You can
learn more about Phil and his work by visiting his
website at Phil Webster dot com and that's p h
I L l W E B S t e r
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dot com. Tonight, we'll explore life after loss, spiritual connection,
and the glowing truth of a truth about who and
what we really are. Joining me from the other side
of the great Great Pond in the United Kingdom is
Phil Webster. And Phil, thank you so much for your
patience and thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Hey, well, nice to be back. Thank you for inviting me. Phil.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
For those of who you know of our listening audience
who is unfamiliar with your story, what life event catalyzed
your spiritual awakening, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
There was a major one, the loss of my mom,
I've had a couple of things along the way that
I didn't really recognize as spiritual awakenings, I guess if
you could call them that. But yeah, there was definitely
a catalyst what sent me down as rabbit hole, and
that was losing my mom at the start of twenty
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twenty one, and it we'd just been through the whole
COVID pandemic and all that kind of stuff, and I
hadn't seen it for a while, and we would FaceTime
every day, and on this particular I hadn't seen them
for maybe a couple of months or something like that,
and I was trying to do the right thing, trying
to keep away through COVID and all the rest of it. Anyway,
she answered the phone, and as she answered the phone,
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there was a man sort of leaning in the screen
from the other side of it, and I saw him
long enough that I could describe and me had thinning,
great hair, glasses, look like he was in his mid
to late sixties. And as she moved the phone, he
went out of shop, and I said to my mum,
I was like, well, who's that. I think we were
in another lockdown at the time. There shouldn't have been
anyone there, and she said who's what, which kind of
(04:30):
threw me off because I've just seen the guy. And
I said, well, the guy who's in the house. And
it was quite late at night, it was like ten
thirty or something like that. She lived in a very
rural place and she she said, no, there's no one here,
and she just kind of dismissed me and started talking
about her day. I interrupted her a couple of more times,
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and she she was like, no, you know, there's no
one here, and I didn't want to freak her out,
and it kind of threw me off because I was like, well,
I believed her that there was no one there. I
could all tell when there was someone there. She would
put on my airs and graces and speak a lot
posher and I could never get a stray conversation out
of her. She wasn't doing any of that, so it
has kind of dismissed it. And we spoke for another
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forty five minutes or so. I went to bed that night.
I was in London, by the way. She lived on
a place called the Isle of White, which is about
three hours away, and the next morning I got a
call that she had a heart attack and well, first of.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All, my condolence is on the loss of your mom, because.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
That, yeah, it's you know, I mean, a lot of
us have been through it, and you kind of, you know,
you expect that your parents are probably going to go
before you. But even so, it's still, you know, it's taken. It.
It's taken as toll, but you know, about four years
on now, I'm kind of a you know, moving on
(05:48):
with life. But but yeah, it's you know, this next morning,
full of the grief and the shock and everything that
comes with that. My mind kept going back to, well,
what was that then, you know, and I was kind
of I wasn't. I was kind of on the fence
with sort of supernatural stuff, and I speak to some
people about it, and the sort of most my more
(06:09):
skeptical friends would be like, well, how do you know
there was no one there? You know? And I can't
one percent say there was absolutely no one there, whereas
my other sort of group of friends were like, well,
that was that was a spirit guide, That was somebody
letting you know or you know, a family member or
something like that. And as I kind of thought it through,
that seemed to be the logical conclusion. Oddly, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Was your belief system like before all of this began.
Were you skeptical? Spiritual? Religious?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Definitely didn't grow up religious. I was kind of interested
in supernatural things for one of a better term. When
I was a kid, as I suppose a lot of
kids are. I grew up in the eighties, so we
had like ghostbusters all that stuff. As I got older
into my mid thirties, I grew a lot more sin.
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I traveled a lot. I lived abroad for around twenty years.
I ended up running bars and clubs, and with that
lifestyle sort of came a very cynical attitude to see
people at their worst all the time and anytime I
was sort of think a bit deeper with which wasn't
much at the time. I kind of was on the fence.
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I was thinking, well, I don't know, are we just
biological walking you know, neurons or ye know? Or is
there something more? So I was kind of it wasn't
something that I'd really been paying attention to, but you know,
this experience really sent me down a complete different direction
into a rabbit hole and looking at other things that
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had happened over the years. It seemed that every few years,
some odd thing would happen that I would dismiss and
not really attribute to anything spiritual, but look back, looking
back on it through a different lens of what I
was looking through. Now these odd things that had happened
over the years made a lot more sense Now.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Was the passing of your mom the only event that
I have a loss that you had in this period
that you believe opened up the door to the spiritual
experiences that you had.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, there'd been a couple of others leading up to that,
but I hadn't recognized them as spiritual experiences. One profound one,
which is it? I mean, it's kind of a strange story.
So I during that time that I was telling you about,
I woke up one morning. I was again working in
bars and clubs, and I was mid thirties, and I
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just to put that in context, I'm fifty this year,
and I remember waking up one morning and just kind
of just musing over the idea that we only have
the moment of now, right, And it wasn't too deep.
It's something that I thought of before, and something that
we've all come across, you know, people have wrote books
about it, People talk about living in the moment of
now and all that kind of stuff. But as I
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lay there thinking about it, something shifted and it was
almost like physically, it was like a physical shift. It
was very profound, and it was I can't explain that.
I think people talk about depersonalization experiences. It was something
akin to that. All of a sudden, sort of linear
time just fell away, and I suddenly felt just acutely
aware of the moment of now. And it just sounds
(09:20):
it's really difficult to describe and make it sound like
I'm not just rambling nonsense.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But oh, come on, you're here in the X zone.
We don't think that way.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Having good company. But it was as though linear time
just fell away all of a sudden. I couldn't like
the past seemed absurd, and sort of thinking about what
I was going to do later that day just just
seemed like it didn't make sense. All of a sudden,
I just I was suddenly like now and there was
nothing else, and it was you know again, people talk
(09:51):
about living in the moment of now. It was like
that times a thousand, and it was terrifying, I have
to say, And I know other people have talked about this,
as Eckhart Toll is a book about a similar experience.
But yeah, this this thing just kept going on, and
it went on all day and and I and it
was terrifying. And then it kept going on and on,
and at about the month mark, I kind of thought
(10:13):
it was losing my mind. I couldn't sort of just
drift off into my thoughts like we all all do
all day every day. It was just kind of like now, now, now,
And it was exhausting. I ended up going to a
doctor and the doctor started using words like psychosis. They
gave me a bunch of meds like anti anxiety pill,
sleeping pills, stuff like that, which didn't really touch it.
(10:34):
And about a couple more months in, I've just this
experience just nonstops, relentless kind of ultimate awareness. It was
almost like stepping into an ultimate reality, you know, but
it sat it felt so acute that that it was
just more that I could handle. Anyway, cut a long
(10:54):
story short. I went I found a therapist. And what
attracted to me to this to go see this therapist
was that he was a hypnotist. So I went along
and I was like, can you just like hypnotize this away?
I don't know what the hell's going on with me.
I was literally at the end of my rope not
to go down a dark turn, but I really thought, well,
if this is the way my brain's working now, I'm
(11:15):
out of it. Like this doesn't work for me. And
again I wasn't attributing this to anything spiritual or anything
like that. So he listened to my story. He explained
he couldn't hypnotize me because it hypnotism doesn't work like
that and with what was going on with me, and
he used an odd word and he said, well, I
believe that you are mystic. And I was like, well,
what the hell does that mean. I didn't really care.
I just wanted this thing to stop. Sure, and he
(11:38):
started talking about shamanism and all these things that I
wasn't interested in or bursting at all at the time.
He gave me a very basic grounding meditation and it
brought me.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Back the phill. Are you there?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You look at it?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah? So, yeah, we lost you there for a second,
but you're back.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Ah sorry, okay, So yeah, where we lost you was
that you know, you're you were told that you were
a mystic and you couldn't understand that we're buying too
that rate or in it, and that's where weled.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, you know, he started talking about shamanism and all
these things that I wasn't versed in at all, and
and he gave me a very basic grounding guided meditation,
which brought me back almost instantly. So it did, you know,
anything that the mets that I've been taking didn't touch.
Just the simple meditation just brought me back all of
a sudden. I was, you know, part of the herd again,
(12:30):
and online or offline, depending how you look at it.
And and very gradually, I, you know, sort of came
back with a very different outlook on life. But as
soon as it got through it, I just kind of
put it behind me. And then there was only since
exploring spiritual practices, since writing these books, that this kind
of thing came up quite a lot. And when I
wrote about it that experience, I had a few people
(12:51):
get in touch and say, okay, I went through something
like that too, And it did resonate and seemed to
be in line with a lot of spiritual teaching, especially
about shamanism, where somebody would kind of go to the
edge of madness and then that would be the medicine
person that people would go to and you know.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
All right, Phil, stand by you and I have to
take our first break extonation. Phil Webster is our very
special guest, and his website is www dot Phil Webster
dot com and that's p H I L. L. Webster
dot com. And we'll both be back on the other
side of this break as we continue hearing the X
one from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
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on the x On Broadcast Network, Talkstar Radio Network and
Mutual Broadcast Network. I'm Rob McConnell. Don't away, Oh start.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
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of musday? She's so very nice? Should bring the ice,
(14:18):
let a orgy on? Watch your chi. You know that
she's the best thing you ever find. Oh can't you
see dor she's feeling this?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
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Speaker 6 (14:44):
Shut.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Welcome back everyone. Phil Webster is my very special guest
at this hour www dot Phil Webster dot com. That's
p H I L. L. Webster dot com. I feel
what made you decide to document your experiences and eventually
become an author?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
So I'd always assume that I'd write something at some
point I've dabbled with writing fiction or something for the
years and then never really finished anything, and it just
seemed like the natural thing to do. For some reason.
I just started specifically learning about mediumship excuse me to
start with, and I just thought I'd just document the
journey in real time. Really, so I kind of went
(15:31):
into this or into that arena, I should say, somewhat skeptical,
despite obviously wanting to you, hoping that I could hear
from my mum right that was the catalyst of the
whole thing. I just kind of wrote about the whole
experience along the way and kind of the first book,
Letting Glows, starts out somewhat on the fence, and by
the time it's finished, it has so many experiences, amazing
(15:53):
experiences are through learning about mediumship that I was like, Okay,
this is a real thing. And then by the time
I finished writing the first book, I've learned so much
that I had another book in me, so I just
went ahead and wrote the second one.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You say that your awakening wasn't just emotional, but multi dimensional.
Can you explain that?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I wish I could. That seems to be something that
I often come back to, especially the whole moment of
now thing. I've as much as i've you know, people
are often interested in mediumship and you know, life after
death and all that, and I feel that that's really
what attracted me to everything. But beyond that, I just
(16:37):
keep coming back to this experience that i'd had, and
it sort of ties in, you know, when you're meditating
and you're getting in touch with spirit guys and all
this kind of stuffing, being able to be really present
is really key. And I feel that I had a
very unique experience that I was telling you about earlier,
and I think that's it. You know, I mean not
to go to out there, but I feel that the
(16:59):
likelihood that we're experiencing ultimate reality right, that we're aware
of actual truth, is probably like zero. And I really
feel that there's more how can I put it, information
in the conscious moment of now, like in the exact moment,
than there is in you know, thinking about the past
or worrying about the future. And we rarely experienced this,
and you know, it's not our fault. Obviously, we're you know,
(17:22):
we're physical beings. We have to go about our business,
we have to pay the bills. You can't, you know,
set a new TV up with intuition or whatever. You know,
We've got to live in the practical, but I feel
that there is just peeling back a couple of layers
and even just looking at time, you know, and this
thing that we deal with all day long trying to
explain that is nuts, right, It's something beyond what we
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can comprehend. So I feel, yeah, that we are living
on multi dimensions at the whole time, but we've just
kind of got used to the practical side.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
How did mediumship become a part of your life, a
big part of your life? And how did you know
it just wasn't your imagination?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
That's a good question, and that's a lot of things
that things that people that start learning about medium should
have to That's kind of one of the first hurdles,
you know, to trust that what you get is not
just yourself making it up. After losing my mum and
kind of one of one. I've read a book by
a lady called Claire Broad who's since gone on to
be my teacher. She's still my teacher, and it was
(18:28):
kind of an interesting story because I just picked this
book up. I didn't know where Claire was from. She
could have been in the UK, she could have been
in the States or wherever. And the first story in
her book of how she became a medium took place
across the street from where I was living at the time,
which was kind of like a wild coincidence. She'd had
this experience in a cemetery as a little girl, and
(18:50):
I could literally look out of my window and see
the cemetery she was talking about in this in this book,
which at the time I thought, well, that's a weird coincidence.
And you know, since then, there's been there's been a lot.
But yeah, she was really sort of my introduction to mediumship.
And I went along to a spiritualist church, the kind
of tenor penny around here. I never didn't know that
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they existed, but essentially every week there's a medium giving
a demonstration of mediumship, usually on a Sunday, and you
can just show up and the medium will go around
the congregation and be like, Okay, well, I've got a
gentleman that looks like this might be your grandfather, et cetera,
et cetera, doing what mediums do. And very quickly, on
my first time that I went to one of these places,
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I got a message from my mom and what really
was again another another kind of catalyst for me was
that the medium she had a very strong London accent,
and her accent changed and she started speaking with the
Northern accent, which is what my mum had, and it
was essentially my mom's voice coming out of her. And
(19:52):
that was to me, was just you know, the game changer.
That was like, oh, okay, this this stuff's real.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, how did you feel, you know, like, here's your
mom communicating through this person in her voice from the
other side.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that that was really it. Like, Oddly,
despite learning about all this stuff, and this was probably
about two months, two or three months after my mom
I'd passed, and I've been reading these books and I
think i'd met Claire who I mentioned, who wrote the book.
I've gone to a workshop of hers or something like that.
But for some reason, I was still really skeptical about
(20:30):
this stuff. And I still am, to be honest with you, like,
even all the I like experienced like amazing things, but
I'm still like, after a bit of times gone by,
I'm still like, really, did that really happen? You know,
I can't help it. But yeah, going back to that experience.
I mean that that was just I mean it was
literally life changing. You know that this person I just
(20:50):
walked into that place, nobody knew I was going there.
I've never met this lady before who was given the
demonstration of mediumship, and you know, there was no way
that she knew anything to do with my story. And
just the fact that her whole accent changed, that was just, yeah,
life changing.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How do you connect with the other side? Does it
take you a long time? How do those on the
other side know that you, Phil Webster are trying to
communicate with them? How does it work?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I believe that that it's always They are always around
us on some sort of frequency, and I think that
some of us are more I think that we're old
attuned to it, but some of us are. You know
a lot of people use this example of somebody being
able to draw better than somebody else, or someone can
play guitar better than someone else, and that some of
us seem to have this kind of antenna or Wi
(21:46):
Fi signal that seems to be stronger than it is
in others. And I feel that, you know, you can
tune in, And I think really meditation is the key
to just be able to sit back in silence. And
one of the one of the things that I often
talk about is being able to step back from your thoughts,
and especially in meditation, and this is just beneficial across
(22:08):
the board, whether you're interested in mediumship or not. I
believe if you can just take a moment with yourself
through the day and be able to step back from
your thoughts and recognize that you're not your thoughts, that
you're observe in your thoughts, right, you know that you
don't have to react to all this jumbled stuff that's
just constantly coming at you. But anyway, when you learn
to distinguish the difference between that, then I believe that
opens up the space in between where you recognize when
(22:30):
something new comes in and you realize that that's not you.
You know, that's not you observing, that's not whatever's going
on over here thinking about the dishes or going to
work or whatever it is. But there's a space in
between where something else comes in and then you start
to recognize that that's a different voice. How it worked,
I know how to make it work. How it works,
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Do you believe in your heart of hearts? That you
are a very gifted person to be able to communicate
those on the other side and help so many people
with their grief and allowing them to communicate with the
other side, to people that have left this side of
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the veil and gone to the other side, and give
them a final goodbye that they may have never had
the opportunity to before.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I mean, for me personally grieving and missing my mom,
that that was beyond anything that I could have, you
know it, it was again, it was life changing. And
I had more of these confirmations that my mum was
around and that and so you know that, really that
was really what I needed to know, and that's really
(23:43):
what I was getting into mediumship for in the first place.
I'm still I don't consider myself I'm not a practicing medium.
I do, I do work with people on a daily basis,
but mediumship comes into it. But I would say, and
I hate the word psychic or the name psychic, but
I would say that's kind of more my field or
my area. Aspects of mediumship do come into it. There's definitely,
(24:05):
you know, way better mediums than me out there, despite
writing these two books in it. But I yeah, I
feel that it's that it that it is hugely beneficial.
I don't think that any of us are sort of
you know people that I mean, there are some amazing
medium mediums out there. I don't consider myself one of them.
(24:26):
But yeah, I just write in the first book my
thoughts were, if this could help somebody that's going through
a spiritual awakening or has just lost somebody and then
this makes sense to them, then that's like the best
thing that could come from it, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know, I'd like to just agree with you on something, Phil, Yeah,
and that is I can't communicate with the other side
people that the majority of the people I know. In fact,
i'd say ninety nine point of the people that I
know can't communicate with the other side. So I believe
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that you are a very gifted medium, and that in
my books there's no such thing as a bad medium,
a medium medium, or a great medium. Anyone who can
communicate with the other side of my books, and I'm
sure that this applies to the rest of society, is
(25:20):
all the same. That you have an ability, a gift
that many wish they had, but here you are Phil
Webster who has it. So you know what I admire you,
and that's it.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Well, thank you. I mean, I think I'm still, like
I say, I feel like I'm just constantly learning about
this stuff and looking at some of the I mean,
I've been lucky enough to work with some of the
world's best mediums. Gordon Smith is somebody over this this
side of the pond. I'm not sure if you guys
are too aware of him. James Van Prow, I think
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you have over there. We definitely have over there. And
then Claire broad So watching those people in action, you
know that I'm I'm right at the beginning of this journey.
And again, I feel that that we all do have
the ability to explore this to varying degrees of success,
and some people are going to excel at it and
others it will be more of a struggle. But I
(26:19):
feel that that we can all do it. It's just
we're just wrapped up in, you know, concentrating on the
practicalities of life, which we have to again, you know,
we're in this, that's what this thing is. But yeah,
I feel that we all have the ability to do it.
I disagree that there are some mediums that walking around,
you know, walk around saying that they were born with it.
It's a gift and they're sort of exceptional. But I
(26:39):
feel that we can all we can all do it,
but you know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It takes some time, all right, Please stand by, Phil,
You and I have to take our break at the
bottom of the hour and explanation. If you'd like to
find out more about our guest tonight, well, I believe
is a very well established medium. Hey, the first time
I've disagreed with a guest tonight. Visit this website at
www dot Phil Webster dot com. And don't forget Phil
(27:04):
is p h I L L Webster dot com. This
is the excell and I'm Rob McConnell and Phil Webster
and I will return on the other side of this
short break. Don't go away.
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Speaker 2 (28:43):
Phil Webster is my very special guest at this hour.
His website is www dot Phil Webster dot com. That's
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Speaker 2 (28:54):
Webster dot com Phil that song I Want to Be Free.
There's a there's a there's a phrase there, or there's
a lyric there that says, never say goodbye. As a
as a medium who's able to communicate with the other side,
do we ever say goodbye? Or is it that those
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who have left this side of the veil just aren't
recognized on this side once they passed over, and they're
always with us.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think that's it. I mean, I think you you
you described it already. Yeah, I think that's exactly what's
going on. I think that the Iowa was around and
when we reach out that it is as simple as that,
that that they're aware of it. That's that's been my experience.
And then that first year after losing my mom, you know,
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I was desperate to have those experiences, and yeah, I
definitely got some quite strong affirmations that she was there
and not just through a sense of just feeling that
the person's around. And I think that that's a thing,
you know, asolutely if you you know, we feel the
ones that we've lost around us. But yeah, when you
really do start exploring this, then then the science do
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become very apparent.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, would you say that, based on the conversations that
you have had on the other side, that we should
fear death or is it that we just totally misunderstand
what death is?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah? Again, I think I think that for whatever reason
it is that we that we don't understand what it is.
That being said, again, some of those mediums that I
mentioned earlier, that's sort of clear about it, and she's
she's quite sudden of of what's going on over there.
I'm still learning about this stuff. But yeah, I think
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you know that that's simply the case that that we
don't that this beyond that comprehension, and that well, it's
not beyond that comprehension. I mean, plenty of people talk
about near death experiences and people across the board essentially
talk about the same experience, Right, So I think that
that we've got that. But for whatever reason, whatever, whatever
this this thing is, there's a block on it, and
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we kind of hit a wall and can't kind of
wrap our heads around that. And I think that even
even mediums as we understand it and the information that
we get, I'm not convinced that everyone's right about that.
I think it's you know, it's filter through us, filter
through this understanding that we have. So I don't think
that every girl or every medium is absolutely one hundred
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percent correct. I think they're correct to the extent that
we can grasp it.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, where how does one's belief in a certain religious
philosophy work when it comes to the other side? Does
it matter if you're Christian, if you're Muslim, if you're Buddhist.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Well, I think just nay. You mentioned that. A good
example again is when people talk about near deathics experiences.
Was it, well, I forget his name, so Raymond Moody, right,
he was kind of a pioneer of writing the first
real accounts of this in the seventies, and and that
was one observation that he meant that, you know, no
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matter what people's backgrounds, no matter what what countries he
went to, it was pretty much the same story. Okay,
so people might have talked about their gods, you know,
their their their different deities, deities for forgive me a
cont pronounce that, but essentially it was the same story,
you know, life review and meeting their loved ones on
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the other side, and then of course they'd come back
and tell us about it. So I think that that
that kind of answers that for me.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, you know, I, as as we know, you often
speak about life after death as you just did. How
certain are you that consciousness actually does survive the physical death?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I mean, as a certain certain excuse me, as certain
as anyone can be. I suppose, in with the you know,
the position that we're in at the moment, the experiences
that I've had, I can only talk about my own experiences, right,
and and you know, of course I've read a lot
of compelling evidence, and I've told to people that that
I trust that that have taught me about this whole arena.
(33:22):
But yeah, that that one thing that I keep coming
back to is that I can only talk about my
own experiences, and from everything that I've experienced, it seems
there's something to this. You know. I know that I'm
not making this stuff up. A lot of it's very subject,
but a lot of it's very personal. And trying to
describe it to somebody else, I totally get it because
a few years ago, I wasn't I wasn't on, but
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I would have been skeptical about this as well. But yeah,
speaking from personal experience. I'm enough things have happened that
I'm quite convinced that this is all real.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I have have you discovered about sure contracts? And what,
in your opinion, is our purpose here on earth.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I think that we come here with an agenda. I
think that there is some sort of overview, there is
some sort of blueprint, like a bigger picture, and that
reincarnation is part of it. That we come back and
we likely what we didn't learn in the last one,
that we're gonna keep repeating that until we until we've
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figured out what that that is. I think that the
people along the journey are doing the same thing, and
that and that there is that there is some sort
of sole agreement, that the guides are there as well
to be part of that, that they know what that
is also and hopefully sort of guide us in the
right direction. I think that's the most basic explanation I
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can come up with. And and you know, I'm not
the first person to talk about it, obviously, but again
I can't help. But you know, the skeptical part of
me is like, is that really the truth? I feel
that that's as close as we can get to understanding it.
And I think that that's that's probably like the best,
you know, the most beautiful model that we can come
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up with.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, once again, based on your own personal experiences, your
own personal belief do our loved ones communicate with us
more often than we realize?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah? I believe that they do. When I started taking
stock of these things, and there's things that's happened that
that I dismissed at the time, and then later on
went back to it and I thought, Okay, maybe if
maybe that actually was that, you know, and I'm sort
of going off track a little bit here, but one
interesting thing that I that that's kind of in line
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with that was that I was I hadn't been to
a spiritualist church for a long time, and I went
to show my face at one a few weeks ago,
and there's a lady there doing the demonstration of mediumship,
and she was kind of everyone was in agreement, you know,
she was bringing people's grandparents stuff like this, and she
kept talking about one lady that nobody was recognizing, and
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she was specific and I can talk about this. The
person I know wouldn't involve wouldn't mind me talking about this.
She kept talking about a lady in a blue dress
that had died in hospital, and she died with a
with she she put it through essentially through mental illness
that was bought on by neglects, like by physical neglects. Anyway,
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nobody was taking this and she she sort of gave
up with it. I went home that night and I
had a client, one of my online clients, and we
went through what we went through and talked about his
personal life and things like that, and towards the end
of the reading, he told me that he had just
lost his sister who had recently died in hospital, and
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and and and everything that he said like correlated with
what the medium said about the circumstances amount up passing.
And I bought up the blue dress, and he was like,
well we buried her in a blue dress, Oh wow,
which was to me was amazing, you know, because he
wasn't he hadn't been there with me at the time.
But clearly that message was for him, and that message
was for me to take home to him. So however
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this whole thing works, you know, his sister knew that
I was going to be there and that I was
going to relate that message back to him, which happens
a lot when you get into this this arena. But
but yeah, I believe that they are constantly trying to
communicate with us.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, what's the most incredible personal validation you've ever received
from spirit besides the one that you described to us earlier.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I've had a lot in the early days when I
was learning about mediumship. I was trying to do all
the right things. I was meditating every day, I was
I was reading all the books I was supposed to read,
you know, learning from these amazing teachers. And I felt
like I'd had a wall. And there was one particular night,
although I was really missing my mum. I was at
her house and I've gone for a walk that evening
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and I maybe had a bottle of wine or something
like that. I was really upset. I was sitting on
the beach, I was crying, and I was just kind
of asking. I was like, Okay, so if this is
a real thing, if if I've got spirit guides around
me and all this stuff, what's what's the big secret?
What I'm doing everything right, I'm meditating, I'm you know,
I'm doing everything by the book that I can to
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sort of get more validation. And I had had validation already,
but I needed more. And I was I was sitting
on the beach and I was sitting next to a
cafe that was shut up for the winter, and it
had like a board outside, like a chalkboard, right, And
as I was sitting down and I was upset, and
I was looking around, and I was like, just give
me some sort of sign. I looked at this board
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and I mean, I mean, this doesn't sound believable even
when I say, but my name was wrote on there
in chalk, Phil, and all around it it said Hi,
as in you know, the greeting is in hello, like high,
and it said it all over and it said Phil
high high high high everywhere. And just at the second
that I've been like, okay, I need something. I need
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a sign, right, and you know, there was a literal sign. Now,
I don't believe that some piece of chalk magic magically
wrote my name in that moment. Maybe somebody had wrote
it earlier that day. But I've been taken to that
spot where you know, where i'd get that validation. That
was a pretty crazy one for me.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That seems rather incredible, and I would certainly take it
as a sign.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, I mean, I took a photo of it. But
you know, again learning about mediumship, sitting with like sort
of practicing with clients and then telling then them things
that I know I absolutely didn't know. I mean that
those things have been quite you know, I've known there's
no way that I could have come up with those things,
and they've come through, however they come through, And to
have people say, yeah, I know who you're talking about. That,
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that's kind of amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Phil. Have you ever been afraid of what you've experienced
or encountered in your spiritual journey?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I haven't so one of my teachers. Again, going back
to Claire, I've talked to her at length about this,
and she's of the opinion that I'm possibly naive about it.
I'm not scared of that. You know, if we're talking
that we're all consciousness or spirits or whatever however you
want to describe it, then I'm already that right. So
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why would I be afraid of that just because especially
if I can't sit right? You know what I mean.
I don't believe in I don't believe in the devil.
I don't believe in hell or demons or anything like that.
I mean, I think that there is definitely negative energy,
and that absolutely people bring that and you can feel that,
you know, if you walk into a room where someone's
had an argument or any of those kind of cliches.
But I feel that as long as you go in
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with the right intention, I've never yeah, I think that
we get out, we get back what we put out, right,
So if you're going in there with good intention, you're
going to bring good intention. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
You mentioned synchronicity is quite often. What's one that stood
out as a turning point in your life?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Synchronicities? Yeah, hmm. I think meeting again, meeting Claire picking
up that book. She could have been from anywhere in
the world. And then her you know, the first book,
the first story in her book took across took place
across the street from where I live. And then meeting
her and she she essentially lived down the road that that.
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You know, she's become a very good friend, a teacher,
she's she's really been massively part of this journey for me.
So just the coincidence around that she could again, she
could have been Australian, she could in Canada.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Okay, stand by for a second, I've got to take
a break. I was so involved in your story that
I missed my producer's que So we'll be back on
the other side of this break. Whatever you do, don't
go away.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I thought I saw a man or to lie. He
was warm, he came around like he was dignify. He
showed me a lot of was to cry where you
couldn't be that man.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You don't seem to know, seem to care, but your
heart is born. I don't know him anymore. It's not
anywhere you used to lie. Conversation has one life. That's
what's going on. Nothing's fin answer.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Say, welcome back everyone. This is the ex Soon. I'm
Rob McConnell or coming to you from our broadcast center
in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario of Canada and on
the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network and x
Own Broadcast Network. I guess this hour is Phil Webster
p H I L. L Webster dot com is the
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website address. And you know, one of the questions that
that I've heard from people who are mediums and who
are psychic. So's something called a grief hallucination. Now, how
do you how do you distinguish filled between grief hallucinations
and genuine contact from spirit.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That's the time I've never heard before. Funnily enough, I
can I can only only assume that it's, you know,
along the lines of grieving so badly that you that
you you know, see what you want to see you
and you hear what you want to hear. And I
suppose that's a big argument, especially from skeptics, that of course,
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if you're looking for something, then you're going to find it, right.
So if you if you're looking for white feathers every
day and you're going to see a white feather, right,
and those are a pretty common one. I'm not convinced
that every white feather that I see when I walk
down the street is a sign for my mum, right,
you know, who knows what's been happening. But yeah, I
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mean I can understand the argument with that. The I've
definitely had a lot of experience that a lot of
you know, signs for that that could be or could
not be. And I think that if you choose to
take it as if it comforts you, then why not
you know what's wrong with that? If if you if
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a song comes on the radio and that was your
partner's favorite song or what or whoever it is that
you've lost, you know, and you get some comfort out
of that, then I think, why not I think potentially
believing that every single thing that you see is a
sign from the other side. And also I found that
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a lot of people that go into this arena, it
kind of opens the floodgates to a lot of other stuff.
I don't necessarily believe in absolutely everything just because it's
comes under the supernatural radar. But just to go back
to the original question, I think that when you have
these experiences, there's there's a strong sense of knowing that
comes with it. You know, Like I've had experiences before
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where like I've had a physical sensation like go through
me as I've had this experience and and and it's
undoubtedly something beyond whatever's going on here. And I've had
that shared with somebody else as well. I wrote about
it in my second book. So I feel that when
we really do have these like actual valid legit scigns,
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there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, how do you respond to skeptics who say grief
can distort perception as well as reality.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
That's a very good point. One thing that people were
saying to me when I was talking about seeing the
man on the phone call with my mom, was that,
you know, well I was talking about it when I
was grieving, because you know, my mom had passed the
next day, so everyone who had told her about who
I told about it, she'd already died. And I kept
having to point out that, well, I wasn't grieving at
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the time, because it was the night before. I didn't
I didn't realize she was going to pass away. And
I don't think that this was some you know, post
hallucination that you know, my partner was with me at
the time, she'd she'd heard me, had this whole conversation.
I have no doubt that it's a real thing. You
know that wanting to know that my mom was okay
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really sent me down this this rabbit hole of mediumship.
So I can understand the argument that I was searching
for that validation and that's what I wanted to get,
and I did get that. Again, personally, I can't help
but have this kind of eternal skeptic in me, so
I know that I just don't buy into absolutely everything. Yeah,
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that's a truck. That's a good question. It's a good question.
I'm not quite sure how to answer it. Again, I
don't think that absolutely everything is is definitely a sign
or if you get comfort from it, then why not.
But I do believe that this, that this is a
real thing, that there's more to this than we understand.
And you know, one thing that I always come back
to is, you know, explain time. And I'm going off
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in a bit of a tangent here or in a
different direction. But you know, this is something that we
deal with every day, that we just accept it, we
structure our lives around it. But sit down and tell
me what it is, right, And I think, you know,
we just get used to stuff and we just accept
it as reality. And the more I've tuned in to this,
this new way of looking at things, the more it's
(47:43):
becoming my you know, way of reality. And it doesn't
really I don't see it as that supernatural anymore. Yeah,
so I went off topic there.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
No, No, it's quite all right, because I believe what
we call supernatural is actually quite natural. We just haven't
learned to understand or to accept it.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's it at the end of the day.
And again, you know, I think that you try, you know,
you know, for anyone that's interested in going into this
this area, I think, yeah, start with meditation. See if
it's try it out, see if it's you know, for you.
Don't buy into everything that everybody absolutely says, you know,
like especially anyone that's a self proclaiming guru that is
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like holding secrets back, and they give you a little
nugget of truth that resonates with you, you know. I think,
you know, learn, learn from who you can, take what
works for you, and just discard what doesn't and and
sort of just just find your own way.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Why is meditation so important to mediumship work.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
I think that it's really the key. It's really the
gateway that opens that opens it up again what I
was saying earlier about being able to recognize that we're
not at thoughts, you know, like you're walking down the
street and somebody upsets you and you get triggered and
you react, you know, and we have all these you know,
you have your thoughts, you have your responses. But I
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think that when you're able to just sit with yourself
and try to take even if it's only five minutes,
and start to recognize that all that stuff that's going
on that you don't have to get caught up with that,
and that you can step back from it and recognize
that you're this other thing. You start to recognize this,
you know that your consciousness there's not even the language
for it, right, and and to be able to to
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understand that all that stuff going on over here, all
these thoughts and all these sort of reactions that you
don't need to go with it. And again, like when
you create that space and you are trying to connect
with spirit guides, which I think is like one of
the first steps basically towards mediumship, then you recognize this
as a as a sort of for one of a
better expression and separate entity that comes in.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Why do you think society is so hesitant to accept
the spiritual side of grief as well as the spiritual
side of life?
Speaker 4 (50:01):
That I don't know. And I also think that part
of that is, you know, when death shows up, whether
it's thinking about our own mortality or when we lose someone.
I was really struck by how we all accept it,
but we're not prepared for it, and because we don't
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talk about it, and we don't deal with it, and
and and it's such an odd thing because because it's
it's everywhere. It's part of life, and everyone gets uncomfortable
talking about it, and we don't seem to be prepared
for it. I feel that talking about that being said,
you know, I think that I don't know. I know
you've been doing this for a long time, but I
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feel that these conversations are a lot more. They're not
dismissed as much as they were back in the day.
You know, when I was talking about this, maybe thirty
years ago or something like that, you know it was
it was probably dismissed, as I suppose. It's the location
dependent as well. But for the most part, I think
people are more open to this, this kind of talking
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and this way of thinking now than they have been before.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
How has being a medium and an author of the
books that you've written changed your personal life completely?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
It's taken me in a completely different direction to where
I thought I was going. I was, you know, tensatively
calling myself an actor. I wasn't under any illusions about it.
I was paying the bills with it, and that was
fine for me. I got into it quite late in
my forties. But this just seems I don't want to
say more important, but for me, it's It's just it's
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got so much more value, you know, than anything that
I've come across so far, and I find it endlessly fascinating.
And yeah, it's just now my daily life. I'm talking
with clients every day online for the most part, and yeah,
just just talking for the people. The people that are
connect that I find most interesting. Of people that having
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this go through a spiritual awakening themselves and telling me
about their experiences, there is a whole other side to
you know, call yourself a psychic. Of course, you get
people asking, you know, am I is my boyfriend going
to call me next week? And stuff like that, But
for the most part, yeah, like my life's kind of
in a completely different direction.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, what's the next for you, Phil? Another book, workshop
or a new journey? What are you excited about?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, I'm just at the end of writing my third book.
I thought that these first two were going to be
part of a trilogy. I still do believe that, but
I think this third book is something completely different. I'm
definitely not the first person to channel a book, but
it's essentially a conversation and whatever's going on is way
smarter than me. I'll read it back and I'm like
I again, I know I didn't know that, but again
(52:46):
I'm not the first person to do it. To do this,
I'm sort of going into Neil donnald Wald's territory or
something like that. So yeah, I'm looking forward to see
well first to giving it to my publishers and if
it gets out there then people's reaction to that. This weekend,
I've got a talk coming up in the UK, something
called the Kent Wellness Festival. I enjoy going to these
spiritual festivals and talking for an hour about this kind
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of stuff. Yeah, just going along and seeing where it
takes me.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Phil, What do you hope our listeners may take away
from your message tonight? What do you think the most
important part of our hour has been to get across?
Speaker 4 (53:23):
I think that again, just that these experiences can be
very subjective, you don't. You know, take what resonates from
what I've said, and if some of it resonates with you,
then great. If some of it sounds like, you know, rubbish,
then I get it because it did to me for
a long time. And again, you know, just sort of
pick your gurs wisely and yes, see what works for
(53:46):
you and go with that.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, well, Phil, Webster. Thank you for joining us here
in the X one tonight and for sharing your deeply personal,
incredibly moving and soul stirring story with us and our listeners.
Your dream reminds us all that grief doesn't have to
be the end of a connection, but in many ways,
it's just the beginning of a deeper understanding.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Of love and spirit.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Now, for those of you who want to explore Phil's
books or learn more about his ongoing work in the
field of spiritual awakening, head to www dot phil Webster
dot com. That's Phi L l Webster dot com. And
to all of you in the Xzone Nation, remember sometimes
the light we're looking for isn't out there, it's actually
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glowing from within. Phil. Take care of yourself and I
look forward to the next time that you and I
meet here in the X Zone.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Thanks for having me back. Well I speak to you.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
It's my pleasure, really great talking to you. And do
the world a favor and keep up the great work
that you're doing you see. Thank you, Take care my
good friend. Well that's it for tonight, x O Nation.
I'll be back tomorrow night at ten o'clock. Is once
again we crossed the time space continuum to this place
that I call the X Zone. It's a place where
people dare to leave and dear to be heard. It's
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a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And as you know, the X Zone comes to you
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tomorrow night, my friends, please always remember to keep your
(55:24):
eyes to the sky and your heart in the light.
Good night, everyone,
Oh hurry, Welcome to the xisde a place where fact
is fiction and fiction is reality.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now here's your host, Rob a coon.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Waiting at the music stars strange, just making the most
of the dug but to that body's become I see
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you the smoky can't you feel musday? You're so close?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Fun time.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And welcome back every one, two hour, number two of
tonight's show, and you're listening to the x oone Radio
Show on the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network
and all around the world. Fascinating when technology works, doesn't it.
We were hit with a thunderstorm knocked our systems out,
and you know, I often wonder what is going to
(01:48):
happen in the future when there is a n VP
that blocks knocks out all all G networks and people
don't have cell phones anymore. It's going to be disastrous,
But that's for another show. My guest this hour is
someone whose story you will resonate with anyone who has
ever faced lost, asked what lies beyond, or search for
(02:09):
the light in the darkest of places. Phil Webster is
his name, and Phil is a British author, actor and
spiritual explorer who's profound journey through grief led him to
a stunning spiritual awakening. Through was best selling books Letting
Glow and Glowing Deeper, Phil invites readers into his world
of mediumship, past live, synchronicity, and the continuation of consciousness
(02:32):
beyond death. What began as a personal search for answers
has become a passionate mission to help others reconnect with
the eternal bonds of love, soul, and spirit. You can
learn more about Phil and his work by visiting his
website at Phil Webster dot com and that's p h
I L l W E B S t e r
(02:53):
dot com. Tonight, we'll explore life after loss, spiritual connection,
and the glowing truth of a truth about who and
what we really are. Joining me from the other side
of the great Great Pond in the United Kingdom is
Phil Webster. And Phil, thank you so much for your
patience and thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Hey, well, nice to be back. Thank you for inviting me. Phil.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
For those of who you know of our listening audience
who is unfamiliar with your story, what life event catalyzed
your spiritual awakening, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
There was a major one, the loss of my mom,
I've had a couple of things along the way that
I didn't really recognize as spiritual awakenings, I guess if
you could call them that. But yeah, there was definitely
a catalyst what sent me down as rabbit hole, and
that was losing my mom at the start of twenty
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twenty one, and it we'd just been through the whole
COVID pandemic and all that kind of stuff, and I
hadn't seen it for a while, and we would FaceTime
every day, and on this particular I hadn't seen them
for maybe a couple of months or something like that,
and I was trying to do the right thing, trying
to keep away through COVID and all the rest of it. Anyway,
she answered the phone, and as she answered the phone,
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there was a man sort of leaning in the screen
from the other side of it, and I saw him
long enough that I could describe and me had thinning,
great hair, glasses, look like he was in his mid
to late sixties. And as she moved the phone, he
went out of shop, and I said to my mum,
I was like, well, who's that. I think we were
in another lockdown at the time. There shouldn't have been
anyone there, and she said who's what, which kind of
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threw me off because I've just seen the guy. And
I said, well, the guy who's in the house. And
it was quite late at night, it was like ten
thirty or something like that. She lived in a very
rural place and she she said, no, there's no one here,
and she just kind of dismissed me and started talking
about her day. I interrupted her a couple of more times,
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and she she was like, no, you know, there's no
one here, and I didn't want to freak her out,
and it kind of threw me off because I was like, well,
I believed her that there was no one there. I
could all tell when there was someone there. She would
put on my airs and graces and speak a lot
posher and I could never get a stray conversation out
of her. She wasn't doing any of that, so it
has kind of dismissed it. And we spoke for another
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forty five minutes or so. I went to bed that night.
I was in London, by the way. She lived on
a place called the Isle of White, which is about
three hours away, and the next morning I got a
call that she had a heart attack and well, first of.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All, my condolence is on the loss of your mom, because.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
That, yeah, it's you know, I mean, a lot of
us have been through it, and you kind of, you know,
you expect that your parents are probably going to go
before you. But even so, it's still, you know, it's taken. It.
It's taken as toll, but you know, about four years
on now, I'm kind of a you know, moving on
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with life. But but yeah, it's you know, this next morning,
full of the grief and the shock and everything that
comes with that. My mind kept going back to, well,
what was that then, you know, and I was kind
of I wasn't. I was kind of on the fence
with sort of supernatural stuff, and I speak to some
people about it, and the sort of most my more
(06:09):
skeptical friends would be like, well, how do you know
there was no one there? You know? And I can't
one percent say there was absolutely no one there, whereas
my other sort of group of friends were like, well,
that was that was a spirit guide, That was somebody
letting you know or you know, a family member or
something like that. And as I kind of thought it through,
that seemed to be the logical conclusion. Oddly, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Was your belief system like before all of this began.
Were you skeptical? Spiritual? Religious?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Definitely didn't grow up religious. I was kind of interested
in supernatural things for one of a better term. When
I was a kid, as I suppose a lot of
kids are. I grew up in the eighties, so we
had like ghostbusters all that stuff. As I got older
into my mid thirties, I grew a lot more sin.
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I traveled a lot. I lived abroad for around twenty years.
I ended up running bars and clubs, and with that
lifestyle sort of came a very cynical attitude to see
people at their worst all the time and anytime I
was sort of think a bit deeper with which wasn't
much at the time. I kind of was on the fence.
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I was thinking, well, I don't know, are we just
biological walking you know, neurons or ye know? Or is
there something more? So I was kind of it wasn't
something that I'd really been paying attention to, but you know,
this experience really sent me down a complete different direction
into a rabbit hole and looking at other things that
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had happened over the years. It seemed that every few years,
some odd thing would happen that I would dismiss and
not really attribute to anything spiritual, but look back, looking
back on it through a different lens of what I
was looking through. Now these odd things that had happened
over the years made a lot more sense Now.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Was the passing of your mom the only event that
I have a loss that you had in this period
that you believe opened up the door to the spiritual
experiences that you had.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, there'd been a couple of others leading up to that,
but I hadn't recognized them as spiritual experiences. One profound one,
which is it? I mean, it's kind of a strange story.
So I during that time that I was telling you about,
I woke up one morning. I was again working in
bars and clubs, and I was mid thirties, and I
(08:37):
just to put that in context, I'm fifty this year,
and I remember waking up one morning and just kind
of just musing over the idea that we only have
the moment of now, right, And it wasn't too deep.
It's something that I thought of before, and something that
we've all come across, you know, people have wrote books
about it, People talk about living in the moment of
now and all that kind of stuff. But as I
(08:59):
lay there thinking about it, something shifted and it was
almost like physically, it was like a physical shift. It
was very profound, and it was I can't explain that.
I think people talk about depersonalization experiences. It was something
akin to that. All of a sudden, sort of linear
time just fell away, and I suddenly felt just acutely
aware of the moment of now. And it just sounds
(09:20):
it's really difficult to describe and make it sound like
I'm not just rambling nonsense.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But oh, come on, you're here in the X zone.
We don't think that way.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Having good company. But it was as though linear time
just fell away all of a sudden. I couldn't like
the past seemed absurd, and sort of thinking about what
I was going to do later that day just just
seemed like it didn't make sense. All of a sudden,
I just I was suddenly like now and there was
nothing else, and it was you know again, people talk
(09:51):
about living in the moment of now. It was like
that times a thousand, and it was terrifying, I have
to say, And I know other people have talked about this,
as Eckhart Toll is a book about a similar experience.
But yeah, this this thing just kept going on, and
it went on all day and and I and it
was terrifying. And then it kept going on and on,
and at about the month mark, I kind of thought
(10:13):
it was losing my mind. I couldn't sort of just
drift off into my thoughts like we all all do
all day every day. It was just kind of like now, now, now,
And it was exhausting. I ended up going to a
doctor and the doctor started using words like psychosis. They
gave me a bunch of meds like anti anxiety pill,
sleeping pills, stuff like that, which didn't really touch it.
(10:34):
And about a couple more months in, I've just this
experience just nonstops, relentless kind of ultimate awareness. It was
almost like stepping into an ultimate reality, you know, but
it sat it felt so acute that that it was
just more that I could handle. Anyway, cut a long
(10:54):
story short. I went I found a therapist. And what
attracted to me to this to go see this therapist
was that he was a hypnotist. So I went along
and I was like, can you just like hypnotize this away?
I don't know what the hell's going on with me.
I was literally at the end of my rope not
to go down a dark turn, but I really thought, well,
if this is the way my brain's working now, I'm
(11:15):
out of it. Like this doesn't work for me. And
again I wasn't attributing this to anything spiritual or anything
like that. So he listened to my story. He explained
he couldn't hypnotize me because it hypnotism doesn't work like
that and with what was going on with me, and
he used an odd word and he said, well, I
believe that you are mystic. And I was like, well,
what the hell does that mean. I didn't really care.
I just wanted this thing to stop. Sure, and he
(11:38):
started talking about shamanism and all these things that I
wasn't interested in or bursting at all at the time.
He gave me a very basic grounding meditation and it
brought me.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Back the phill. Are you there?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You look at it?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah? So, yeah, we lost you there for a second,
but you're back.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Ah sorry, okay, So yeah, where we lost you was
that you know, you're you were told that you were
a mystic and you couldn't understand that we're buying too
that rate or in it, and that's where weled.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, you know, he started talking about shamanism and all
these things that I wasn't versed in at all, and
and he gave me a very basic grounding guided meditation,
which brought me back almost instantly. So it did, you know,
anything that the mets that I've been taking didn't touch.
Just the simple meditation just brought me back all of
a sudden. I was, you know, part of the herd again,
(12:30):
and online or offline, depending how you look at it.
And and very gradually, I, you know, sort of came
back with a very different outlook on life. But as
soon as it got through it, I just kind of
put it behind me. And then there was only since
exploring spiritual practices, since writing these books, that this kind
of thing came up quite a lot. And when I
wrote about it that experience, I had a few people
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get in touch and say, okay, I went through something
like that too, And it did resonate and seemed to
be in line with a lot of spiritual teaching, especially
about shamanism, where somebody would kind of go to the
edge of madness and then that would be the medicine
person that people would go to and you know.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
All right, Phil, stand by you and I have to
take our first break extonation. Phil Webster is our very
special guest, and his website is www dot Phil Webster
dot com and that's p H I L. L. Webster
dot com. And we'll both be back on the other
side of this break as we continue hearing the X
one from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,
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on the x On Broadcast Network, Talkstar Radio Network and
Mutual Broadcast Network. I'm Rob McConnell. Don't away, Oh start.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
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of musday? She's so very nice? Should bring the ice,
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let a orgy on? Watch your chi. You know that
she's the best thing you ever find. Oh can't you
see dor she's feeling this?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
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Speaker 6 (14:44):
Shut.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Welcome back everyone. Phil Webster is my very special guest
at this hour www dot Phil Webster dot com. That's
p H I L. L. Webster dot com. I feel
what made you decide to document your experiences and eventually
become an author?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
So I'd always assume that I'd write something at some
point I've dabbled with writing fiction or something for the
years and then never really finished anything, and it just
seemed like the natural thing to do. For some reason.
I just started specifically learning about mediumship excuse me to
start with, and I just thought I'd just document the
journey in real time. Really, so I kind of went
(15:31):
into this or into that arena, I should say, somewhat skeptical,
despite obviously wanting to you, hoping that I could hear
from my mum right that was the catalyst of the
whole thing. I just kind of wrote about the whole
experience along the way and kind of the first book,
Letting Glows, starts out somewhat on the fence, and by
the time it's finished, it has so many experiences, amazing
(15:53):
experiences are through learning about mediumship that I was like, Okay,
this is a real thing. And then by the time
I finished writing the first book, I've learned so much
that I had another book in me, so I just
went ahead and wrote the second one.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You say that your awakening wasn't just emotional, but multi dimensional.
Can you explain that?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I wish I could. That seems to be something that
I often come back to, especially the whole moment of
now thing. I've as much as i've you know, people
are often interested in mediumship and you know, life after
death and all that, and I feel that that's really
what attracted me to everything. But beyond that, I just
(16:37):
keep coming back to this experience that i'd had, and
it sort of ties in, you know, when you're meditating
and you're getting in touch with spirit guys and all
this kind of stuffing, being able to be really present
is really key. And I feel that I had a
very unique experience that I was telling you about earlier,
and I think that's it. You know, I mean not
to go to out there, but I feel that the
(16:59):
likelihood that we're experiencing ultimate reality right, that we're aware
of actual truth, is probably like zero. And I really
feel that there's more how can I put it, information
in the conscious moment of now, like in the exact moment,
than there is in you know, thinking about the past
or worrying about the future. And we rarely experienced this,
and you know, it's not our fault. Obviously, we're you know,
(17:22):
we're physical beings. We have to go about our business,
we have to pay the bills. You can't, you know,
set a new TV up with intuition or whatever. You know,
We've got to live in the practical, but I feel
that there is just peeling back a couple of layers
and even just looking at time, you know, and this
thing that we deal with all day long trying to
explain that is nuts, right, It's something beyond what we
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can comprehend. So I feel, yeah, that we are living
on multi dimensions at the whole time, but we've just
kind of got used to the practical side.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
How did mediumship become a part of your life, a
big part of your life? And how did you know
it just wasn't your imagination?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
That's a good question, and that's a lot of things
that things that people that start learning about medium should
have to That's kind of one of the first hurdles,
you know, to trust that what you get is not
just yourself making it up. After losing my mum and
kind of one of one. I've read a book by
a lady called Claire Broad who's since gone on to
be my teacher. She's still my teacher, and it was
(18:28):
kind of an interesting story because I just picked this
book up. I didn't know where Claire was from. She
could have been in the UK, she could have been
in the States or wherever. And the first story in
her book of how she became a medium took place
across the street from where I was living at the time,
which was kind of like a wild coincidence. She'd had
this experience in a cemetery as a little girl, and
(18:50):
I could literally look out of my window and see
the cemetery she was talking about in this in this book,
which at the time I thought, well, that's a weird coincidence.
And you know, since then, there's been there's been a lot.
But yeah, she was really sort of my introduction to mediumship.
And I went along to a spiritualist church, the kind
of tenor penny around here. I never didn't know that
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they existed, but essentially every week there's a medium giving
a demonstration of mediumship, usually on a Sunday, and you
can just show up and the medium will go around
the congregation and be like, Okay, well, I've got a
gentleman that looks like this might be your grandfather, et cetera,
et cetera, doing what mediums do. And very quickly, on
my first time that I went to one of these places,
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I got a message from my mom and what really
was again another another kind of catalyst for me was
that the medium she had a very strong London accent,
and her accent changed and she started speaking with the
Northern accent, which is what my mum had, and it
was essentially my mom's voice coming out of her. And
(19:52):
that was to me, was just you know, the game changer.
That was like, oh, okay, this this stuff's real.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, how did you feel, you know, like, here's your
mom communicating through this person in her voice from the
other side.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that that was really it. Like, Oddly,
despite learning about all this stuff, and this was probably
about two months, two or three months after my mom
I'd passed, and I've been reading these books and I
think i'd met Claire who I mentioned, who wrote the book.
I've gone to a workshop of hers or something like that.
But for some reason, I was still really skeptical about
(20:30):
this stuff. And I still am, to be honest with you, like,
even all the I like experienced like amazing things, but
I'm still like, after a bit of times gone by,
I'm still like, really, did that really happen? You know,
I can't help it. But yeah, going back to that experience.
I mean that that was just I mean it was
literally life changing. You know that this person I just
(20:50):
walked into that place, nobody knew I was going there.
I've never met this lady before who was given the
demonstration of mediumship, and you know, there was no way
that she knew anything to do with my story. And
just the fact that her whole accent changed, that was just, yeah,
life changing.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How do you connect with the other side? Does it
take you a long time? How do those on the
other side know that you, Phil Webster are trying to
communicate with them? How does it work?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I believe that that it's always They are always around
us on some sort of frequency, and I think that
some of us are more I think that we're old
attuned to it, but some of us are. You know
a lot of people use this example of somebody being
able to draw better than somebody else, or someone can
play guitar better than someone else, and that some of
us seem to have this kind of antenna or Wi
(21:46):
Fi signal that seems to be stronger than it is
in others. And I feel that, you know, you can
tune in, And I think really meditation is the key
to just be able to sit back in silence. And
one of the one of the things that I often
talk about is being able to step back from your thoughts,
and especially in meditation, and this is just beneficial across
(22:08):
the board, whether you're interested in mediumship or not. I
believe if you can just take a moment with yourself
through the day and be able to step back from
your thoughts and recognize that you're not your thoughts, that
you're observe in your thoughts, right, you know that you
don't have to react to all this jumbled stuff that's
just constantly coming at you. But anyway, when you learn
to distinguish the difference between that, then I believe that
opens up the space in between where you recognize when
(22:30):
something new comes in and you realize that that's not you.
You know, that's not you observing, that's not whatever's going
on over here thinking about the dishes or going to
work or whatever it is. But there's a space in
between where something else comes in and then you start
to recognize that that's a different voice. How it worked,
I know how to make it work. How it works,
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Do you believe in your heart of hearts? That you
are a very gifted person to be able to communicate
those on the other side and help so many people
with their grief and allowing them to communicate with the
other side, to people that have left this side of
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the veil and gone to the other side, and give
them a final goodbye that they may have never had
the opportunity to before.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I mean, for me personally grieving and missing my mom,
that that was beyond anything that I could have, you
know it, it was again, it was life changing. And
I had more of these confirmations that my mum was
around and that and so you know that, really that
was really what I needed to know, and that's really
(23:43):
what I was getting into mediumship for in the first place.
I'm still I don't consider myself I'm not a practicing medium.
I do, I do work with people on a daily basis,
but mediumship comes into it. But I would say, and
I hate the word psychic or the name psychic, but
I would say that's kind of more my field or
my area. Aspects of mediumship do come into it. There's definitely,
(24:05):
you know, way better mediums than me out there, despite
writing these two books in it. But I yeah, I
feel that it's that it that it is hugely beneficial.
I don't think that any of us are sort of
you know people that I mean, there are some amazing
medium mediums out there. I don't consider myself one of them.
(24:26):
But yeah, I just write in the first book my
thoughts were, if this could help somebody that's going through
a spiritual awakening or has just lost somebody and then
this makes sense to them, then that's like the best
thing that could come from it, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know, I'd like to just agree with you on something, Phil, Yeah,
and that is I can't communicate with the other side
people that the majority of the people I know. In fact,
i'd say ninety nine point of the people that I
know can't communicate with the other side. So I believe
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that you are a very gifted medium, and that in
my books there's no such thing as a bad medium,
a medium medium, or a great medium. Anyone who can
communicate with the other side of my books, and I'm
sure that this applies to the rest of society, is
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all the same. That you have an ability, a gift
that many wish they had, but here you are Phil
Webster who has it. So you know what I admire you,
and that's it.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Well, thank you. I mean, I think I'm still, like
I say, I feel like I'm just constantly learning about
this stuff and looking at some of the I mean,
I've been lucky enough to work with some of the
world's best mediums. Gordon Smith is somebody over this this
side of the pond. I'm not sure if you guys
are too aware of him. James Van Prow, I think
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you have over there. We definitely have over there. And
then Claire broad So watching those people in action, you
know that I'm I'm right at the beginning of this journey.
And again, I feel that that we all do have
the ability to explore this to varying degrees of success,
and some people are going to excel at it and
others it will be more of a struggle. But I
(26:19):
feel that that we can all do it. It's just
we're just wrapped up in, you know, concentrating on the
practicalities of life, which we have to again, you know,
we're in this, that's what this thing is. But yeah,
I feel that we all have the ability to do it.
I disagree that there are some mediums that walking around,
you know, walk around saying that they were born with it.
It's a gift and they're sort of exceptional. But I
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feel that we can all we can all do it,
but you know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It takes some time, all right, Please stand by, Phil,
You and I have to take our break at the
bottom of the hour and explanation. If you'd like to
find out more about our guest tonight, well, I believe
is a very well established medium. Hey, the first time
I've disagreed with a guest tonight. Visit this website at
www dot Phil Webster dot com. And don't forget Phil
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is p h I L L Webster dot com. This
is the excell and I'm Rob McConnell and Phil Webster
and I will return on the other side of this
short break. Don't go away.
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Speaker 7 (28:32):
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His website is www dot Phil Webster dot com. That's
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Webster dot com Phil that song I Want to Be Free.
There's a there's a there's a phrase there, or there's
a lyric there that says, never say goodbye. As a
as a medium who's able to communicate with the other side,
do we ever say goodbye? Or is it that those
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who have left this side of the veil just aren't
recognized on this side once they passed over, and they're
always with us.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think that's it. I mean, I think you you
you described it already. Yeah, I think that's exactly what's
going on. I think that the Iowa was around and
when we reach out that it is as simple as that,
that that they're aware of it. That's that's been my experience.
And then that first year after losing my mom, you know,
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I was desperate to have those experiences, and yeah, I
definitely got some quite strong affirmations that she was there
and not just through a sense of just feeling that
the person's around. And I think that that's a thing,
you know, asolutely if you you know, we feel the
ones that we've lost around us. But yeah, when you
really do start exploring this, then then the science do
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become very apparent.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, would you say that, based on the conversations that
you have had on the other side, that we should
fear death or is it that we just totally misunderstand
what death is?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah? Again, I think I think that for whatever reason
it is that we that we don't understand what it is.
That being said, again, some of those mediums that I
mentioned earlier, that's sort of clear about it, and she's
she's quite sudden of of what's going on over there.
I'm still learning about this stuff. But yeah, I think
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you know that that's simply the case that that we
don't that this beyond that comprehension, and that well, it's
not beyond that comprehension. I mean, plenty of people talk
about near death experiences and people across the board essentially
talk about the same experience, Right, So I think that
that we've got that. But for whatever reason, whatever, whatever
this this thing is, there's a block on it, and
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we kind of hit a wall and can't kind of
wrap our heads around that. And I think that even
even mediums as we understand it and the information that
we get, I'm not convinced that everyone's right about that.
I think it's you know, it's filter through us, filter
through this understanding that we have. So I don't think
that every girl or every medium is absolutely one hundred
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percent correct. I think they're correct to the extent that
we can grasp it.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, where how does one's belief in a certain religious
philosophy work when it comes to the other side? Does
it matter if you're Christian, if you're Muslim, if you're Buddhist.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Well, I think just nay. You mentioned that. A good
example again is when people talk about near deathics experiences.
Was it, well, I forget his name, so Raymond Moody, right,
he was kind of a pioneer of writing the first
real accounts of this in the seventies, and and that
was one observation that he meant that, you know, no
(32:16):
matter what people's backgrounds, no matter what what countries he
went to, it was pretty much the same story. Okay,
so people might have talked about their gods, you know,
their their their different deities, deities for forgive me a
cont pronounce that, but essentially it was the same story,
you know, life review and meeting their loved ones on
(32:37):
the other side, and then of course they'd come back
and tell us about it. So I think that that
that kind of answers that for me.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, you know, I, as as we know, you often
speak about life after death as you just did. How
certain are you that consciousness actually does survive the physical death?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I mean, as a certain certain excuse me, as certain
as anyone can be. I suppose, in with the you know,
the position that we're in at the moment, the experiences
that I've had, I can only talk about my own experiences, right,
and and you know, of course I've read a lot
of compelling evidence, and I've told to people that that
I trust that that have taught me about this whole arena.
(33:22):
But yeah, that that one thing that I keep coming
back to is that I can only talk about my
own experiences, and from everything that I've experienced, it seems
there's something to this. You know. I know that I'm
not making this stuff up. A lot of it's very subject,
but a lot of it's very personal. And trying to
describe it to somebody else, I totally get it because
a few years ago, I wasn't I wasn't on, but
(33:44):
I would have been skeptical about this as well. But yeah,
speaking from personal experience. I'm enough things have happened that
I'm quite convinced that this is all real.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I have have you discovered about sure contracts? And what,
in your opinion, is our purpose here on earth.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I think that we come here with an agenda. I
think that there is some sort of overview, there is
some sort of blueprint, like a bigger picture, and that
reincarnation is part of it. That we come back and
we likely what we didn't learn in the last one,
that we're gonna keep repeating that until we until we've
(34:27):
figured out what that that is. I think that the
people along the journey are doing the same thing, and
that and that there is that there is some sort
of sole agreement, that the guides are there as well
to be part of that, that they know what that
is also and hopefully sort of guide us in the
right direction. I think that's the most basic explanation I
(34:49):
can come up with. And and you know, I'm not
the first person to talk about it, obviously, but again
I can't help. But you know, the skeptical part of
me is like, is that really the truth? I feel
that that's as close as we can get to understanding it.
And I think that that's that's probably like the best,
you know, the most beautiful model that we can come
(35:10):
up with.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, once again, based on your own personal experiences, your
own personal belief do our loved ones communicate with us
more often than we realize?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah? I believe that they do. When I started taking
stock of these things, and there's things that's happened that
that I dismissed at the time, and then later on
went back to it and I thought, Okay, maybe if
maybe that actually was that, you know, and I'm sort
of going off track a little bit here, but one
interesting thing that I that that's kind of in line
(35:44):
with that was that I was I hadn't been to
a spiritualist church for a long time, and I went
to show my face at one a few weeks ago,
and there's a lady there doing the demonstration of mediumship,
and she was kind of everyone was in agreement, you know,
she was bringing people's grandparents stuff like this, and she
kept talking about one lady that nobody was recognizing, and
(36:05):
she was specific and I can talk about this. The
person I know wouldn't involve wouldn't mind me talking about this.
She kept talking about a lady in a blue dress
that had died in hospital, and she died with a
with she she put it through essentially through mental illness
that was bought on by neglects, like by physical neglects. Anyway,
(36:28):
nobody was taking this and she she sort of gave
up with it. I went home that night and I
had a client, one of my online clients, and we
went through what we went through and talked about his
personal life and things like that, and towards the end
of the reading, he told me that he had just
lost his sister who had recently died in hospital, and
(36:48):
and and and everything that he said like correlated with
what the medium said about the circumstances amount up passing.
And I bought up the blue dress, and he was like,
well we buried her in a blue dress, Oh wow,
which was to me was amazing, you know, because he
wasn't he hadn't been there with me at the time.
But clearly that message was for him, and that message
was for me to take home to him. So however
(37:11):
this whole thing works, you know, his sister knew that
I was going to be there and that I was
going to relate that message back to him, which happens
a lot when you get into this this arena. But
but yeah, I believe that they are constantly trying to
communicate with us.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, what's the most incredible personal validation you've ever received
from spirit besides the one that you described to us earlier.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I've had a lot in the early days when I
was learning about mediumship. I was trying to do all
the right things. I was meditating every day, I was
I was reading all the books I was supposed to read,
you know, learning from these amazing teachers. And I felt
like I'd had a wall. And there was one particular night,
although I was really missing my mum. I was at
her house and I've gone for a walk that evening
(38:00):
and I maybe had a bottle of wine or something
like that. I was really upset. I was sitting on
the beach, I was crying, and I was just kind
of asking. I was like, Okay, so if this is
a real thing, if if I've got spirit guides around
me and all this stuff, what's what's the big secret?
What I'm doing everything right, I'm meditating, I'm you know,
I'm doing everything by the book that I can to
(38:21):
sort of get more validation. And I had had validation already,
but I needed more. And I was I was sitting
on the beach and I was sitting next to a
cafe that was shut up for the winter, and it
had like a board outside, like a chalkboard, right, And
as I was sitting down and I was upset, and
I was looking around, and I was like, just give
me some sort of sign. I looked at this board
(38:44):
and I mean, I mean, this doesn't sound believable even
when I say, but my name was wrote on there
in chalk, Phil, and all around it it said Hi,
as in you know, the greeting is in hello, like high,
and it said it all over and it said Phil
high high high high everywhere. And just at the second
that I've been like, okay, I need something. I need
(39:05):
a sign, right, and you know, there was a literal sign. Now,
I don't believe that some piece of chalk magic magically
wrote my name in that moment. Maybe somebody had wrote
it earlier that day. But I've been taken to that
spot where you know, where i'd get that validation. That
was a pretty crazy one for me.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That seems rather incredible, and I would certainly take it
as a sign.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, I mean, I took a photo of it. But
you know, again learning about mediumship, sitting with like sort
of practicing with clients and then telling then them things
that I know I absolutely didn't know. I mean that
those things have been quite you know, I've known there's
no way that I could have come up with those things,
and they've come through, however they come through, And to
have people say, yeah, I know who you're talking about. That,
(39:53):
that's kind of amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Phil. Have you ever been afraid of what you've experienced
or encountered in your spiritual journey?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I haven't so one of my teachers. Again, going back
to Claire, I've talked to her at length about this,
and she's of the opinion that I'm possibly naive about it.
I'm not scared of that. You know, if we're talking
that we're all consciousness or spirits or whatever however you
want to describe it, then I'm already that right. So
(40:23):
why would I be afraid of that just because especially
if I can't sit right? You know what I mean.
I don't believe in I don't believe in the devil.
I don't believe in hell or demons or anything like that.
I mean, I think that there is definitely negative energy,
and that absolutely people bring that and you can feel that,
you know, if you walk into a room where someone's
had an argument or any of those kind of cliches.
But I feel that as long as you go in
(40:45):
with the right intention, I've never yeah, I think that
we get out, we get back what we put out, right,
So if you're going in there with good intention, you're
going to bring good intention. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
You mentioned synchronicity is quite often. What's one that stood
out as a turning point in your life?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Synchronicities? Yeah, hmm. I think meeting again, meeting Claire picking
up that book. She could have been from anywhere in
the world. And then her you know, the first book,
the first story in her book took across took place
across the street from where I live. And then meeting
her and she she essentially lived down the road that that.
(41:26):
You know, she's become a very good friend, a teacher,
she's she's really been massively part of this journey for me.
So just the coincidence around that she could again, she
could have been Australian, she could in Canada.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Okay, stand by for a second, I've got to take
a break. I was so involved in your story that
I missed my producer's que So we'll be back on
the other side of this break. Whatever you do, don't
go away.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I thought I saw a man or to lie. He
was warm, he came around like he was dignify. He
showed me a lot of was to cry where you
couldn't be that man.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You don't seem to know, seem to care, but your
heart is born. I don't know him anymore. It's not
anywhere you used to lie. Conversation has one life. That's
what's going on. Nothing's fin answer.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Say, welcome back everyone. This is the ex Soon. I'm
Rob McConnell or coming to you from our broadcast center
in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario of Canada and on
the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network and x
Own Broadcast Network. I guess this hour is Phil Webster
p H I L. L Webster dot com is the
(43:12):
website address. And you know, one of the questions that
that I've heard from people who are mediums and who
are psychic. So's something called a grief hallucination. Now, how
do you how do you distinguish filled between grief hallucinations
and genuine contact from spirit.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That's the time I've never heard before. Funnily enough, I
can I can only only assume that it's, you know,
along the lines of grieving so badly that you that
you you know, see what you want to see you
and you hear what you want to hear. And I
suppose that's a big argument, especially from skeptics, that of course,
(43:55):
if you're looking for something, then you're going to find it, right.
So if you if you're looking for white feathers every
day and you're going to see a white feather, right,
and those are a pretty common one. I'm not convinced
that every white feather that I see when I walk
down the street is a sign for my mum, right,
you know, who knows what's been happening. But yeah, I
(44:16):
mean I can understand the argument with that. The I've
definitely had a lot of experience that a lot of
you know, signs for that that could be or could
not be. And I think that if you choose to
take it as if it comforts you, then why not
you know what's wrong with that? If if you if
(44:37):
a song comes on the radio and that was your
partner's favorite song or what or whoever it is that
you've lost, you know, and you get some comfort out
of that, then I think, why not I think potentially
believing that every single thing that you see is a
sign from the other side. And also I found that
(44:59):
a lot of people that go into this arena, it
kind of opens the floodgates to a lot of other stuff.
I don't necessarily believe in absolutely everything just because it's
comes under the supernatural radar. But just to go back
to the original question, I think that when you have
these experiences, there's there's a strong sense of knowing that
comes with it. You know, Like I've had experiences before
(45:22):
where like I've had a physical sensation like go through
me as I've had this experience and and and it's
undoubtedly something beyond whatever's going on here. And I've had
that shared with somebody else as well. I wrote about
it in my second book. So I feel that when
we really do have these like actual valid legit scigns,
(45:44):
there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, how do you respond to skeptics who say grief
can distort perception as well as reality.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
That's a very good point. One thing that people were
saying to me when I was talking about seeing the
man on the phone call with my mom, was that,
you know, well I was talking about it when I
was grieving, because you know, my mom had passed the
next day, so everyone who had told her about who
I told about it, she'd already died. And I kept
having to point out that, well, I wasn't grieving at
(46:17):
the time, because it was the night before. I didn't
I didn't realize she was going to pass away. And
I don't think that this was some you know, post
hallucination that you know, my partner was with me at
the time, she'd she'd heard me, had this whole conversation.
I have no doubt that it's a real thing. You
know that wanting to know that my mom was okay
(46:37):
really sent me down this this rabbit hole of mediumship.
So I can understand the argument that I was searching
for that validation and that's what I wanted to get,
and I did get that. Again, personally, I can't help
but have this kind of eternal skeptic in me, so
I know that I just don't buy into absolutely everything. Yeah,
(47:00):
that's a truck. That's a good question. It's a good question.
I'm not quite sure how to answer it. Again, I
don't think that absolutely everything is is definitely a sign
or if you get comfort from it, then why not.
But I do believe that this, that this is a
real thing, that there's more to this than we understand.
And you know, one thing that I always come back
to is, you know, explain time. And I'm going off
(47:22):
in a bit of a tangent here or in a
different direction. But you know, this is something that we
deal with every day, that we just accept it, we
structure our lives around it. But sit down and tell
me what it is, right, And I think, you know,
we just get used to stuff and we just accept
it as reality. And the more I've tuned in to this,
this new way of looking at things, the more it's
(47:43):
becoming my you know, way of reality. And it doesn't
really I don't see it as that supernatural anymore. Yeah,
so I went off topic there.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
No, No, it's quite all right, because I believe what
we call supernatural is actually quite natural. We just haven't
learned to understand or to accept it.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's it at the end of the day.
And again, you know, I think that you try, you know,
you know, for anyone that's interested in going into this
this area, I think, yeah, start with meditation. See if
it's try it out, see if it's you know, for you.
Don't buy into everything that everybody absolutely says, you know,
like especially anyone that's a self proclaiming guru that is
(48:26):
like holding secrets back, and they give you a little
nugget of truth that resonates with you, you know. I think,
you know, learn, learn from who you can, take what
works for you, and just discard what doesn't and and
sort of just just find your own way.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Why is meditation so important to mediumship work.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
I think that it's really the key. It's really the
gateway that opens that opens it up again what I
was saying earlier about being able to recognize that we're
not at thoughts, you know, like you're walking down the
street and somebody upsets you and you get triggered and
you react, you know, and we have all these you know,
you have your thoughts, you have your responses. But I
(49:05):
think that when you're able to just sit with yourself
and try to take even if it's only five minutes,
and start to recognize that all that stuff that's going
on that you don't have to get caught up with that,
and that you can step back from it and recognize
that you're this other thing. You start to recognize this,
you know that your consciousness there's not even the language
for it, right, and and to be able to to
(49:27):
understand that all that stuff going on over here, all
these thoughts and all these sort of reactions that you
don't need to go with it. And again, like when
you create that space and you are trying to connect
with spirit guides, which I think is like one of
the first steps basically towards mediumship, then you recognize this
as a as a sort of for one of a
better expression and separate entity that comes in.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Why do you think society is so hesitant to accept
the spiritual side of grief as well as the spiritual
side of life?
Speaker 4 (50:01):
That I don't know. And I also think that part
of that is, you know, when death shows up, whether
it's thinking about our own mortality or when we lose someone.
I was really struck by how we all accept it,
but we're not prepared for it, and because we don't
(50:22):
talk about it, and we don't deal with it, and
and and it's such an odd thing because because it's
it's everywhere. It's part of life, and everyone gets uncomfortable
talking about it, and we don't seem to be prepared
for it. I feel that talking about that being said,
you know, I think that I don't know. I know
you've been doing this for a long time, but I
(50:42):
feel that these conversations are a lot more. They're not
dismissed as much as they were back in the day.
You know, when I was talking about this, maybe thirty
years ago or something like that, you know it was
it was probably dismissed, as I suppose. It's the location
dependent as well. But for the most part, I think
people are more open to this, this kind of talking
(51:04):
and this way of thinking now than they have been before.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
How has being a medium and an author of the
books that you've written changed your personal life completely?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
It's taken me in a completely different direction to where
I thought I was going. I was, you know, tensatively
calling myself an actor. I wasn't under any illusions about it.
I was paying the bills with it, and that was
fine for me. I got into it quite late in
my forties. But this just seems I don't want to
say more important, but for me, it's It's just it's
(51:38):
got so much more value, you know, than anything that
I've come across so far, and I find it endlessly fascinating.
And yeah, it's just now my daily life. I'm talking
with clients every day online for the most part, and yeah,
just just talking for the people. The people that are
connect that I find most interesting. Of people that having
(52:00):
this go through a spiritual awakening themselves and telling me
about their experiences, there is a whole other side to
you know, call yourself a psychic. Of course, you get
people asking, you know, am I is my boyfriend going
to call me next week? And stuff like that, But
for the most part, yeah, like my life's kind of
in a completely different direction.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, what's the next for you, Phil? Another book, workshop
or a new journey? What are you excited about?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, I'm just at the end of writing my third book.
I thought that these first two were going to be
part of a trilogy. I still do believe that, but
I think this third book is something completely different. I'm
definitely not the first person to channel a book, but
it's essentially a conversation and whatever's going on is way
smarter than me. I'll read it back and I'm like
I again, I know I didn't know that, but again
(52:46):
I'm not the first person to do it. To do this,
I'm sort of going into Neil donnald Wald's territory or
something like that. So yeah, I'm looking forward to see
well first to giving it to my publishers and if
it gets out there then people's reaction to that. This weekend,
I've got a talk coming up in the UK, something
called the Kent Wellness Festival. I enjoy going to these
spiritual festivals and talking for an hour about this kind
(53:08):
of stuff. Yeah, just going along and seeing where it
takes me.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Phil, What do you hope our listeners may take away
from your message tonight? What do you think the most
important part of our hour has been to get across?
Speaker 4 (53:23):
I think that again, just that these experiences can be
very subjective, you don't. You know, take what resonates from
what I've said, and if some of it resonates with you,
then great. If some of it sounds like, you know, rubbish,
then I get it because it did to me for
a long time. And again, you know, just sort of
pick your gurs wisely and yes, see what works for
(53:46):
you and go with that.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, well, Phil, Webster. Thank you for joining us here
in the X one tonight and for sharing your deeply personal,
incredibly moving and soul stirring story with us and our listeners.
Your dream reminds us all that grief doesn't have to
be the end of a connection, but in many ways,
it's just the beginning of a deeper understanding.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Of love and spirit.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Now, for those of you who want to explore Phil's
books or learn more about his ongoing work in the
field of spiritual awakening, head to www dot phil Webster
dot com. That's Phi L l Webster dot com. And
to all of you in the Xzone Nation, remember sometimes
the light we're looking for isn't out there, it's actually
(54:31):
glowing from within. Phil. Take care of yourself and I
look forward to the next time that you and I
meet here in the X Zone.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Thanks for having me back. Well I speak to you.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
It's my pleasure, really great talking to you. And do
the world a favor and keep up the great work
that you're doing you see. Thank you, Take care my
good friend. Well that's it for tonight, x O Nation.
I'll be back tomorrow night at ten o'clock. Is once
again we crossed the time space continuum to this place
that I call the X Zone. It's a place where
people dare to leave and dear to be heard. It's
(55:01):
a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And as you know, the X Zone comes to you
Monday through Friday from ten pm Eastern until midnight right
here on the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network,
and the xone Broadcast Network from our broadcast center in
studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada. So until we meet
tomorrow night, my friends, please always remember to keep your
(55:24):
eyes to the sky and your heart in the light.
Good night, everyone,
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