Rob McConnell Interviews - ROSALYN BERNE - Horse Communicator and Whisperer - The 'X' Zone Radio/TV Show

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Broadcast Network www dot XBN dot net. My guest this
hour is Roslindburn and her life changed profoundly six years
ago when she fell off a horse. Since then, she
has written two books on human equine communication and has
a growing clientele as as an equine impath facilitating communication, awareness,

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and healing between horses and their human companions. As a
university professor and scholar, Rosalind explorer the creative spaces between
the realms of technology, science, and myth, and between the
human and non human worlds. She writes and teaches about
engineering in technology and society and the ethical implications of

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interspecies communication for technological development. Roslin is the author of
two academic books, a science fiction novel, several sci fi
short stories, and many academic papers. Her book, When the
Horse Whisper When the Horse Whisperer recounts the emergence of
her gift to communicate with horses. Its sequel, Walking to Beauty,

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is an autobiographal exploration of Roslin's spiritual journey, including her
encounters with a mare named Beauty and a stallion named Guano.
Joining me now is Roslinburn. Her website is www dot
Roslinbern dot com and Roslin Welcome to the Exxon.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Thank you Rob for having me on your show.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
It's great having you.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Roslin.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
You are a very very interesting lady.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
You have a PhD.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
And you have a PhD or a professor in the
field of science, Technology, and Society at the University of Virginia,
and you use your perceptual gifts and empathic intuition and
working with horses and their human companions. How have you
always been a horse lover?

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Well, yes, but I wasn't of a background where we
were I could be actually ride them. I mean, I
grew up in Inner City Philadelphia and I probably was
about twelve eleven when my parents sent me to a
summer camp and there were horses there, and that's when
I fell in love with them. My goodness, camp was over,

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I went home to the inner city and we didn't
have the funds for anything involving horses. It's the end
of that except for my fantasy life.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
And yet here you are today, the lady that you
are riding about horses and working with people and horses.
Did you ever in your wildest dreams that you would
be doing what you're doing today?

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Well, absolutely not. I don't know where I would have
come up with such a thing. I was busy teaching,
doing my scholarship writing, and suddenly this happened. It was
quite unpredictable, life changing, but not something I had imagined. No, Rob,
I can't say I did.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is there a bond between the ek wine and the humans?

Speaker 5 (05:30):
Well, yes, I believe that's absolutely the case, and I
believe that that there's a bond between most domesticated animals
and humans. In some ways, it almost seems as if
I'm going to venture to say, on a soul level,
these animals have agreed to be with us and support
our lives. Just think about all the ways that horses

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and dogs in particular have made our lives possible.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
It seems that there is a working bond, But there
is something that has yet to be identified in this
relationship that we share with certain animals.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I think that's right, and I think that we're coming
into a time when it's unfolding. More and more people
are recognizing and talking about the profound bond that we have.
Dogs and horses are being put into service to help
us to heal and be well, not just to protect
us and work for us, but actually to be companions

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to us. And it really does make a huge difference
in people's recovery and state of life.

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Rosalind please stand by. We've got to take a commercial
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She comes down.

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A little man on a dark flad land.

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You ride on a pony name Wild five.

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We're in the whirl in by side.

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On a cone, Nebraska night.

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Explanation of Roslind Bern is our special guest www dot
Roslinburn dot Colin Roslin. What happened in Costa Rica when
you fell off a horse into a river.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah, well it was pretty pretty much of a shock.
I was with a with a tour group. I was
the last to cross the river. Are now, and all
of a sudden, I just was under the water and
I could I could see the water rushing over my
head and it wasn't terribly deep, but maybe at any rate.
When I climbed out of the water, the horse looked

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back at me with trepidation, and anybody would have been
able to interpret his facial expression. He was pretty horrified.
And I just pat him on the butt. And his
name was Titan, and I said, don't worry, Teutan, I'm fine.
So we rested on the other side of the river.
I got back on the horse to ride back with
the group to end our day, and I started hearing him,

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and it was sort of like inside of my own
inner ear somehow, and he said, nobody's ever fallen off
of me before. I can't believe that happened. Are you okay?
Am I going to be in trouble? My job is
to take care of people, and I didn't take care
of you. I'm going to be in trouble, aren't I?

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And I heard it word for word, and I responded,
I'm okay, Titan. I told you I'm fine. That was
my fault, not yours. I must have slipped. Of course,
you won't be in trouble. Don't worry about me. I'm fine.
So we all most were back. I could see the
barn up ahead. I did not know any of the
people that I was with. They were all tourists and

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the owner of this place, her name was Debbie. I
could see the barn and then I hear Titan say
you can actually hear me, can't you? And I said, yeah,
I can understand and hear you. He said, well, I
need your help. Then would you please help me? And
I said, of course, i'll help you. What can I do?
He said, please tell Debbie she's wrong about me. I

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don't need to go back for more training. I just
need a break now. And then so I waited till
everybody else left. I got off of my horse, Titan
put my tack away, went up to Debbie, this owner,
and I introduced myself and said, I have a message
for you from your horse, and you know, she gave
me a funny look. Of course, I told her what

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he said, and then I left and went back to
my cabin. And that evening, at dinner, she came up
to me in the dining facility and she said, I
need for you to explain to me how you know
about that? I said, I don't understand what you're asking me,
And she said, how do you know about what Titan
told you? There's no way you could possibly know that.

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For the last two weeks the stableman and I have
been talking about sending him back for more training. How
do you know? And that's where it began, Rob, Wow,
that's what began.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Let me ask you this, and please don't take this
question the wrong way, but did you ever think that
you might have hit your head or had a concussion
or some other kind of damage that you know, made
you think you might have been hearing this horse talk
to you?

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Well, it didn't occur to me because I didn't feel
any pain. And actually, what's so fascinating to me about
the experience is something did happen when I fell off
that horse, Because when I stood up, I was laughing
for joy.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
And I was alone there, Rob, I was alone in
Costa Rica. I was there to finish writing my sci
fi novel. But I was also grieving the end of
a thirty year marriage and I just needed some time alone.
And so to have this sort of shock, sort of
this jolt of joy flowing from me. I was laughing

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for joy and so, yeah, something happened. But it wasn't
a concussion. It was some kind of shift and I
don't understand it scientifically, but as an experience, I can
say I had never quite felt that way before.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Did you have any communication with any other horse in
Costa Rica?

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well, so here's what happened. So I told Debbie. Well,
I found out because Titan told me. And so then
she came to me the next morning at breakfast. I
was leaving that day, and she said, could you please
talk to another horse because I'm having a lot of
trouble with her and maybe you can figure it out.
And I explained to her, I don't talk to horses.

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That just happened. I can't do anything about this. Four you.
I'm so sorry, and she persisted. She said, could you
please try. It's really important to me. This is my
favorite horse. It's the first horse we got when we
came here from the US. We might have to get
rid of her. I don't know what else to do.
Could you please try? So lo and behold. I went
down to the stable and I was able to hear her,

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and she was asking to be put. She actually showed
me shared a vision of a field and she was
asking to be left there alone for a while because
she said she needed to take care of something and
she kept showing me her belly. Well, they did put
her in that field alone. Of course, I went home,
and then I got a call a few weeks later
from Debbie saying, I just want you to know. It

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turns out that Kitana, that horse was pregnant, but it was,
but there was something wrong with the fetus, and she
lost the baby in the pasture. So what happened was
that the horse had been acting up because she needed
to focus on her unborn and she wanted to be
left alone to do that because she knew that something

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was wrong. So that was really sort of an eye
opener for me to get that phone call, and that's
when I realized that a gift had come and I
needed to take it. Seriously.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Do you think it's possible that you had this gift before?
But there was some reason that this event falling off
the horse in Costa Rica was the was the catalyst.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I think so, because when I reflect on my early
years as a child, and I write about this in
the sequel of Waking to beauty. I reflect on it,
it's like, well, yes, because when I was three years old,
as my mother tells that, I was talking to what
we would refer to as ghosts and talking to telling

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my grandparents and my mother about and father about beings
that were in my grandparents' home, and they didn't even
know the existence of these people. And then later on
found out, yes, the woman died in the basement in
the fire, as you say. And so yeah, I think
that that since childhood there has been a capacity to
sort of reach beyond the immediate realm of this dimension

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if you want to call it, or this immediate physical
world that we have. And over the years I had
those experiences. They tended to go away as I get older,
but I think that maybe I did come to this
life with them with that capacity.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yes, you know, I remember as a child watching a
show called Mister Ed, and I'm just wondering if there
was any similarity between your connection with these horses as
there was with Wilbur and Mister Ed.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
I loved that show, but you're dating me. I ran
home to make sure I watched every episode episode of
this Ed and I don't know why it spoke to
me so deeply. It wasn't just a comedy for me.
I was, I don't know, nine years old. I actually
really got it about the relationship between is the way

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they portrayed it in the show. You know Wilbur moved
his mouth. No, I mean mister Ed moved his mouth
and said Wilburgh and then actually talk. But how else
can you do it for a TV show?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
House?

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Can you actually show that there's communication? When I am
communicating with a horse, it's totally silent. It's something that
we're doing. I get sensations and images, and I hear words,
and then I interpret what I'm hearing for the person
I'm working with. But if you recall Wilbur was he
wanted to keep it a secret. He was embarrassed and
ashamed about it because clearly, back in those days, I

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suppose we would have been seen as not.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Well, you are a scientist, you are an educator. How
do you explain or is there any explanation for how
it is possible for a human and a horse to communicate?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Well? Truth and advertising. I do teach in an engineering school,
but I teach ethics, and I'm trained actually as in
the humanities, in religious studies, However, that being said, I
study engineers, and I study scientists, and so I have just,
you know, a little bit of understanding of the scientific

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method and how you go about understanding what is I
don't know. I've talked to some cognitive scientists about this.
I've talked to biologists about this. It could be that
there is a part of the brain that interprets before language,
before verbs are formed into language, and I'm wondering if

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somehow we connect in that way. We are learning much
much more about how species communicate across the boundaries of species.
We're learning that about plants, We're learning about animals, about fungi,
especially that fungus communicates with the roots of trees and
the mother tree, which determines from the fungus like almost

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a computer network where to send nutrients and so more.
And were we understand that it's possible to cross the
boundaries of species and communicate horses that they don't have language,
But we must possibly share something in our cerebral cortex,
something in our or somewhere in the brain maybe not there,
that allows us to make this connection. And I think

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that's the way humans have survived for all these millions
of years connected to nature because we have learned to
listen and understand.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
How many horses would you say you have communicated with
since the establishment of this gift?

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Okay, so I've gone back to that place in Costa
Rica called Leaves and lizards probably have gone back to
wealth time since then and communicated with all of their horses.
In fact, the first book I wrote, When the Horses Whisper,
is mostly about my conversations with the horses there. So
that's about fourteen and not heard and then probably I

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now have met with about twenty five people in Virginia
who've brought me to their farms to help them. And
then last year my husband and I took a trip
to Kentucky and met some retired race horses and I
was able to communicate with them. So where are we
up there? Close to fifty.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Now at least?

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Like, what is the most common thing horses communicate to
you about?

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, that's also the sad part about this work. Most
of the horses I've spoken with clearly live in private homes,
and what happens is horses are bought and sold fairly readily,
so someone will decide that it's not quite the right

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horse for their interests. Maybe they want a better jumper,
or a better massage horse, or a better racehorse, and
their bottom sold fairly regularly. What most times, when I'm
brought on and something's wrong, the horse often is depressed
or they're confused because they had bonded with someone else

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and were suddenly sold and moved to a new place,
and they don't understand what happened, and they want me
to help them know if they did something wrong and
why they'd been moved. That is sad, Yes, it's very sad.

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Roslin standby, dear you and I have to take our
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Roslin Burn is our very special guest www dot roslinburn
dot com and Roslin and I will be back on
the other side of this news break as we continue
this fascinating conversation about talking to horses, communications with horses
and species. I believe in this because there is so

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much evidence, so many people seeing that they've communicated with
their dogs, with other animals, horses. Let's continue our investigation
into this very interesting topic on the other side of
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Explanation. Roslin Burn is our special guest to this hour.
Www dot Roslinburn dot com. You've never had a horse
of your own, I understand, until recently.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Tell me about that.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Oh yeah, well, let's let's just say back to that
summer camp experience. I was desperate for a horse with
my own and very very much wanted one, but it
wasn't possible. And then fast forward, oh, let's say forty
plus years, more closer to fifty plus years, and I
am in Richmond, Virginia at a horse rescue facility where

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I've been asked to come to help a horse name
Ruby who was actually slated to be slaughtered, and they
rescued her and she was not responding to their care,
and so I was there to try to help Ruby,
and she was actually very frightening, biting and snipping. And
while there, I was talking to a horse named Rain,

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and up behind me walks a horse named Raven. And
I'm trying to focus on Rain, but Raven is right
behind me. Her head's right at my shoulder, and I
hear her say, I'm the horse you've been waiting for
for all these years. Take me home and I will
help you deepen your work. And I thought, what home.
I live in a city house in a tight, tight

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neighborhood where you can throw a stone at the next house.
Where am I supposed to put a horse? And I said,
I heard you, Raven, but I'm busy trying to talk
to Ram. And I got in the car to go home,
and I could not get her out of my heart
and out of my mind. It was like Raven had
come with me. Well, I had mentioned it to my husband,
and next thing you know, I'm going to get Raven.

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And we put her in a facility like a boarding facility.
I found that was about oh forty five minute drive
from home. And so I went to see Raven every
weekend for about three months. And then I thought, no,
I need for you to live with me. We need
to be with each other every day. So we sold
our home and we moved to the country and I

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now live on a horse farm with Raven and guess
who else, Ruby the horse that needed help and one
more named Nash. And this is my new life in
my late fifties. By the way, I have shifted entirely
from my urban existence and no familiarity with horses to

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mucking pastures and feeding and cleaning hoes and you name it.
Here I am and my husband very much has joined
me in this new venture.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
So tell me.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
You know what are your horses and you talk about
during the day.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Well, now this is the problem. You know that story
about the cobblers children without shoes. Yes, yeah, so I
have a full time job, plus I have a farm
to take care of, meals, to prepare, laund you to do.
I am really busy. Yes, And I have not had
conversations with my horses now with one exception, and I

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wouldn't quite call it a conversation. But one day I
stood by the fence and I went into a very
deep meditation, and one by one those horses came and
stood right with me at the fence, and it was
quite an amazing experience. So there is a sense of
connection and understanding. But I'm not hearing them the way

(33:57):
I hear horses when I go, and I'm higher to
go help people with their horses. It's different, and you know,
sort of like you know, I don't quite know why,
except that I haven't taken the time in that way
or I don't know, but I'm not hearing them the
way I hear other horses.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
That's rather strange, isn't it, Because well.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
I feel guilty about it. I feel like I'm not
allowing them to be with me in the way that
is possible because I'm so task oriented when I get
down there. You know, when I go to other people's farms,
First I sit in meditation for a while, and then
I let the horse know my purpose in being there.
And then I go into what I call a zone

(34:40):
where I can open up and feel and sense into
the horse. And then they start talking. Sometimes it takes
a little while because they don't believe that it's possible
that a human can understand them. But once they figure
it out, especially if one starts, then the others figure
it out. They get talkative. But I never I'm always
sort of in a hurry. It's like I gets down
to the barn, I get their feed, I get there.

(35:02):
I'm very task oriented, and I feel guilty. I feel
like I owe them that kind of communicative relationship, and oh,
I'm working on it. Summer gets a little quieter, and
I think I owe it to them and me to
understand more deeply about them.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Is it possible that they understand how busy you are
and they, in their own loving way, are giving you
the space that they believe in you need.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
You know, they are such generous beans, and they are
heart centered beans. You know, they pump by ten times
more blood per minute than we do. Their absolutely heart
centered beans. And I would not be surprised. But as
you were saying that, I did have one memory, my
friend from Costa Rica, well, now we're friends, the one
who owns that facility. She came to visit last fall
and she said to me one day, you know, I

(35:52):
think Ruby has something she needs to say to you.
And I thought, oh, oh really, And so she said,
could you just take the time to be with her?
And I will say that Ruby. Ruby let me know
that she had been a children's horse in a facility
with lots of kids, and something happened where a child
must have fallen gotten hurt, and there was a lot

(36:13):
of drama and yelling and screaming, and that Ruby was
summarily dismissed and suddenly her life was changed. And so
that I did get from her about last fall, that
I did, but I but as you say, she was
asking to be heard and she needed it, and I

(36:33):
stopped for that time and really keyed in. But you know,
they are so aware and so sensitive about us human beings.
They pick up every little emotion. And I think you're
absolutely right that they are giving me the space because
you know, I'm very focused on my daily busy life

(36:54):
like many of us are, and their invitation is just
to sit with them at times, which I've done.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
You know, we have three little pups, well they're not pups,
but we call them our little kids. My wife and
I all our children are our girl and they've left
the nest and they have families of their own. So
now we have these three little girls, and I know
that they are super sensitive. I know they are super intelligent.
I know that they communicate through their eyes and there's

(37:23):
many times where I can actually feel them trying to
give me a message, you know. So I believe that
the bond between humans and our animal friends or animal
I call them children is stronger than we realized. I
think that our arrogance at times does not allow us

(37:47):
to open up our hearts and say, what would you like.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
To tell me?

Speaker 5 (37:52):
I am right with you, and I think in addition
to the arrogance, because we have elevated ourselves as a species,
somehow be better and different than all the other side.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Wait, wait a second, let me ask you this. Are
we better?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
They don't cause wars?

Speaker 5 (38:06):
We do believe. This is the belief system that's in
our society's it's I don't agree.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
With it, and do I we're on the same page.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, In fact, I mean my goodness.
If anything, these creatures are our sacrifice, self sacrifice, seem
to support us, to help us get through life is difficult.
If you probably agree with that too. How much help
they give us? How much help they give I? Here's this,

(38:35):
Since you have three girls at home, let me tell
you my dog story about I don't know twenty five
years ago. Twenty years ago, I'm sitting downstairs of a
three story house and I'm having some emotion about something,
and I am silently crying. There's no whimpering, there's no sound,
They're just tears coming down my eyes. And I hear
our dog who's a half Rottwiler half lab one hundred

(38:58):
and two pounds, get up from where he's laying, and
I hear his little paws on the floor coming all
the way down the steps to the first floor, walks
right over to me, puts his head on my lap
and looks at me as if to say, are you okay?
So there are lots of stories. Many people have stories
about the dogs that touch their hearts and are as

(39:19):
you say in their eyes saying can you understand me?
I'm trying to share something, And I feel like there's
just this little thin barrier and that we're so preoccupied
in our lives with our physical sensations that we haven't
open to the sensation that allows us to connect. And
I do think it is a birthright for all of

(39:41):
us that for some reason, I came with it. But
I think it's possible for all of us to open
to that, and that that's our evolution. I think that's
the next step in our evolution.

Speaker 10 (39:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I've been doing this shown up for twenty six years,
twenty guests a week, five nights a week, and I
get to talk to the most wonderful people in the world,
like yourself, people who have open hearts, open minds, and
I have come to talk to people who believe in extraterrestrials.

(40:16):
They've seen Bigfoot, they've communicated with Bigfoot, and every spectrum
of the paranormal parapsychology realm that you would like to imagine.
But there's one thing I've realized over all these years.
Animals have something that we humans need and need desperately,
and we can learn a major lesson from all our animals.

(40:40):
They have unconditional love, where we humans have yet to
incorporate unconditional love in our day today life. And I
think that this is one of the major things that
our animals are trying to get us to understand that
as a species in order for us to evolve to

(41:03):
the point where they are. You see, I put animals
at the top of the pole and we humans are
at the bottom. That to get where they are, we
have to understand that existence is all about love that
they share with us, the gift of unconditional love, and

(41:24):
we need to learn this and we need to we
need to spread this.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Oh my, this is exactly right. And one thing that
I have learned because these horses are teaching me they
are my teachers. Is that when we get our hands
on some animals, we break them. You know the expression
break the horse. We literally break their spirits. We do

(41:50):
it with dogs, we do it with horses. And when
we break their spirits, their love is still there, but
they're broken and they're in pain, and so they can't
always be as giving as they would in nature given
be had we not done what we had done. So
I have met angry dogs and I have met heartbroken,

(42:11):
depressed horses who are not able to give as they
would normally give because of what we've done to them.
And that's the crisis. That's the tragedy. And boy, are
you really speaking to my heart right now? Thank you
so much for saying that.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I love animals. I truly love animals. I've had the
pleasure of working with the SBCA as the director of Communications.
I've seen animals in every situation possible, and I've seen
the love, the dedication, and the human effort thanks to
the volunteers that work at the SBC and other shelters

(42:47):
around the country, the inspectors, the enforcement officers that truly
love what they do, and I've seen the love and
the emotional tie that can be formed instantaneously between a cat,
a dog, a rabbit, a horse, whatever it is there

(43:12):
and I think, thanks to people like you, that this
message will be getting across and I hopefully people will
look for this communication, this connection the next time they
had the opportunity of meeting an animal. You and I
will be back on the other side of this break.
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(48:29):
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(49:08):
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(49:31):
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(49:53):
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(50:14):
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Speaker 6 (50:19):
X O Nation.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Roslind Burn is our special guest or. Website is Roslinburn
dot com and that's r O s A L y
n b E r n E dot com and Roslin.
It's great having you here on the show. Thank you
so much for joining us tonight. Your stories are just
proof of what I believe in my heart of hearts
to be the case. And you know, like once again

(50:44):
we talk about communicating with other species. You know, you
watch all these sci fi movies and do you hear these?
You go on TV and watch the shows about UFOs, extraterrestrials, Bigfoot,
And here we are, with these wonderful animals that share

(51:04):
this planet. We don't try to communicate with them. So
if we can't communicate with those that share this planet
with us, how are we going to communicate with those
who don't.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
This is exactly the point I was trying to make
to a proposal I wrote for the Library of Congress,
and I think it was just a little bit too strange,
But I was making the argument because you know, they
were looking at astrobiology and they were looking at you know,
all kind I thought, well, you know, we're spending a
lot of money to go out there to see if
there's life out there. Are we prepared? Really, do we

(51:39):
understand about communication across the boundaries of species? Because this
is a great place to practice, is right here. Let's
start with our animals. We can move up to our plants,
even the wild birds. You know, never try to imitate
a bird call and then have the bird respond to you.
I mean, it is such a communicative place this earth,
and we've limited ourselves to our species. I absolutely agree

(52:02):
with you. Let's practice at home first.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
You know, animals are brought into hospitals these days to
help people. You know a certain hospitals, and I know
that the SBCA has animals that they bring into the
hospitals that interact with patients. Do your horses help people heal?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
And if so?

Speaker 5 (52:25):
How Oh? I've had three fairly profound experiences with that
here with friends who've come one condition or another, and
I've said, well, let's see if we can sit with
the horses and see what happens. One person came who
had been diagnosed with lymphoma, and he was very sad
about facing cancer and going through all these treatments. And

(52:47):
so we went he and his wife and my husband
and I and we sat in the round pen which
is just you know, diameter fifty feet, and we put
Raven in there, and that we put some chairs in
and we sat there and we just sat very very quietly,
and Raven went right up to that man, right up
to him, and she spent oh, I would say, about

(53:08):
forty five minutes with her nose rubbing around his chin
and his neck and his head and his back, and
that man's wife watched in tears. She said, what is happening.
I've never seen anything like this, and I don't know
what she was doing, but I can't help believe it
was supporting him back towards wellness.

Speaker 10 (53:29):
Now.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
I don't want to claim you know that, you know,
miracle horce cures man. I don't think that's what happened,
but I think that she was supporting him in his
quest for wellness somehow around the energy he was carrying.
And he's fine now, by the way. The treatment was
successful and he's thriving. Another case is a friend of

(53:49):
mine who was going through a terrible, terrible emotional crisis
where her own children stopped talking with her at all,
excommunicated her, and she was besides herself and she felt
probably I wanted, not too strong to say suicidal. And
I said, let's go in with the horses and see
what happens. And we went in and we sat and

(54:11):
the first horse just started bucking and kicking and running
and like was like going nuts. And I said, I'm
sorry to tell you, but take a deep breath. And
know that that horse is mirroring what's happening with you,
because horses do that, they mirror our energy. And after
a while, finally one came a little closer and stood

(54:32):
by her as she sobbed and released and sobbed and released. Well,
fast forward nine months. His friend came back last week
and we went into the field, and because she wanted
another chance to be with these horses, and I said,
let's just go into their space this time, rather than
bring them into a enclosed space, let's go into their space,
and if it's right, they'll come, they'll come. And so

(54:52):
we put our chairs under the oak tree, and they're
about one hundred feet away. And the more she got quiet,
the closer they got. And I finally asked her, what
is your heart's desire? And she said, I don't know
where this is coming from, but it's to be here now,
in the present moment. So I invited her to do
that while looking at the horses. Lo and behold, here

(55:15):
comes Raven walking right up to her. Raven put her
nose in this woman's hands and stood with her head
there within the woman's hands for a few minutes. And
the woman said that it was an incredible sense of
being absolutely in the present moment. It was like Raven said,
if this is what you want, I will help you
do this. And so yes, these horses are ready. Not

(55:39):
only are they loving, but they're not judging of us.
They don't I don't have to think, oh I gained
weight this week, or I don't look so good, and
they could care less exactly. All they do is chick
in with our hearts to see where we are, and
they mimic it so they can become mirrors that it
helps us to understand ourselves more deeply.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Once again, use the example of my three girls. They
are so in tuned into the way my wife and
I feel. If I've had a bad day at work,
or if i'm you know, if I'm just plain tired.
I get home at three o'clock in the morning and
I sit down in my chair in the living room
and I just turn on one light and I guess

(56:19):
how you sit there and meditate, and the three girls
will come up and they'll, you know, they'll just kind
of make themselves comfy on me, and all three will
put their little heads on my lap and look up
at me with those beautiful eyes. You know, it makes
the world all right.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
Yes, Oh that's right, And that's what they want for you.
Because you give them such love and care, they want
to do the same for you. It's a lovely thing,
isn't it. We can be there for each other.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
It certainly is. It certainly is. So what is next
for you and your and your gift? And how are
you going to share your gift with the world?

Speaker 5 (56:56):
Oh, my goodness, will Well, I'm struggling with this. I'm
not wanting to have to make my living that way
because I'm so afraid something will happen to it if
I have to depend on it for my living. But
I don't know. I'm waiting to see how things unfold.
I'm going to get another book out called Walking with Raven,

(57:17):
because she's teaching me an awful lot about myself. And
I'm going to open the opportunity for people who would
like to come and spend time with us doing their
own inner work. I feel like I'm being led to
help people do that, and probably offer some workshops at
some point, And then it won't be very long from now,
I'll be able to retire, and that way there won't

(57:38):
be so much pressure and I can just do what
feels right.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Is there a difference the way that your horses treat
adults compared to the way that they interact with children.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Well, Ruby loves children in particular, so she's just very
tuned in to children. And I would also say that
I've seen my son has a unfortunate mental illness and
sometimes it's in a very difficult state of mind, and
I've seen them react to him as if wanting to
support him. So I would say not necessarily, some animals,

(58:14):
some horses are more inclined to some people than the other.
But it's not a judgment. It's almost as if it's
just who am I most able to support it this time?
That's almost what it feels like.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Yeah, Rossly, we have about a minute left. What are
your final thoughts for the x oone nation tonight. What
is the message that you would like to share with them,
as well as any message you think that your girls
would like to share with the x Zone nation.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Ah. So my message is that I think that this
happening to me creates a model and a safe space
for other people to realize that they have it in
themselves on some level, to feel and see and connect
with other beings. I just want people to know that,
you know, they're not strained, and they're not there's nothing wrong,

(59:02):
and they don't have to hide it. If they sense
this and feel it, allow it to come through, because
it is our natural state. It's who we are and
what the horse is. It's two mares, two girls, and
a guy. They're trying to help humans come back into balance,
is what I'm getting. They're trying to help us come
back into a sense of being here and full and

(59:26):
in the present moment as much as possible, because we've
gotten so preoccupied and so agitated. I think they would
like us just to join them in that state of being.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Roslin Burn, I want to thank you ever so much
for sharing your time with us and your insight and
your love for your horses or your children, and please
don't be a stranger. Come back and visit us again.
The door is always open ex donation if you'd like
to contact Roslyn. Her website is www dot r O

(01:00:00):
s A L y n B E r n E
dot com. I'll be back on the other side of
this breakdome Koway

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