December 8, 2025 • 51 mins
Shirlee Hall has lived as a visionary, healer, author, teacher and public speaker giving to others what she has received. Her personal goal is self-mastery and a strong inclination to help humanity discover as she has a new way to be open to grander sources of energy, power and love. There is a way to improve the human suffocation and to be and live otherwise on this earth. She affirms that man is a "transitional being" ready to be consciously and physically a fire of truth that burns in the heart. She emphasizes in whatever she does that we have the innate ability to sing another song, run to a new rhythm and embrace the luminous, joyful and sunny beings that we essentially are.
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My guest this hour is a Shirley Hall. She has
lived as a visionary, healer, author, teacher and public speaker,
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giving to others what she has received. Her personal goal
is self mastery and a strong inclination to help humanity
discover as she has a new way to be open
to the grander sources of energy, power and love, there's
a way to improve the human suffocation and to be
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and live otherwise on this earth. She affirms that man
is a transitional being, ready to be consciously and physically
a fire of truth that burns in the heart. She
emphasizes in whatever she does that we have the inate
ability to sing another song, run a new rhythm, and
embrace the luminous joyful and sunny beings that we essentially are.
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Her website is www dot be Healed Forever dot com.
And joining me now is Shirley Holland. Shirley welcome to
the xone.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Thank you so much, Rob. It's my pleasure.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Oh and I must tell you that I love your
I love the energy that I'm getting from you.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Good. Yeah, it's all about energy, right.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It certainly is. It certainly is.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
And you know, being a young man in the sixties,
you know, I wasn't part of the Hippie movement. I
was a little bit too young for that, but I
do remember all, you know, good Vibrations and all the
other positive songs that the singers were coming out with.
And then of course the hippies make Love Not War,
Give Piece of Chance. You know, you had the protests
against the Vietnam War. And I really think that the
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hippies were the start of the movement, but they were
slightly ahead of their time.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
I agree with that. I agree with that. I still
have friends who are living out their understanding at the time,
and that gives me pleasure to know that that they
haven't given up. I've often wondered, haven't you where where
did all those people go.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Well, I'm married to one of them because my wife,
at a very young age hitchhiked to Woodstock.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And in fact, she is a very loving, peaceful person.
She is a professional nurse, and she has worked in
healthcare for many years and she just retired today as
a matter of fact.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Congratulations.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I know I don't know about that.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
You know that means, all right, she has all this
time now to think of more jobs for me to
do at home when I get home from the studios.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
No, no, no, no, Now she'll probably be able to
help in even a grander way of death possible.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Well, you know it is because we have six children,
ten grandchildren, and she is always busy with family matters.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
We love family, and family to.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Us is very important because we believe that by showing
the love, showing the intent, showing the proper way to
be helpful to society. To open up your arms, open
up your heart, smile at people. That this is a
very important part of what we are to do in
this transitional stage.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Exactly. And when I walk down the street, and I'm
sure you've noticed the same thing. If you smile, some
people I act like they're almost shocked.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I know, you know what's with her exactly.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
You know, my dad taught taught my brother and I
to be chivalrous. You open doors for ladies who pull
a seat out. When a lady goes to sit down,
the lady enters the room, you stand.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Up, you know.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
And when we do the like, I don't care what
other people think. I believe in my heart of hearts
that this is the way to do it. And you're right,
people look at you as if you have three heads,
four tongues, eighteen arms and they're spewing fire.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I know, I know. I have a couple of friends
that do that. Whether they're in the grocery store or
wherever they go. You know, they'll smile and they'll say
a few comments to sell on or compliment them, and
it's you could tell they're grateful. In many cases too,
you know, particularly the elderly. If you say something nice
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to them, it's just like they're in shock.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
You know, Well they're in shock, but they they recognize
that they are being recognized and that they're a person,
and it makes them feel good inside. Sureley, you and
I have to take our first break. Please stand by
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Surely Haul is our special guest www dot be Healed
Forever dot com. And I guess, I guess. The motto
of today's show is all you need is love. Surely
was your family background one of healers and helpers who
guided you to do the great job and wonderful things
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that you're doing today.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
In a broader sense, the grandest thing I could have
ever done is reincarnate or however you want to say,
that can drop into a body into a form that
lived with Millie and John Hall. My parents were so open,
they were universal, and that in itself is healing. Even
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though when I was young as a child, they went
to church, but Dad taught the Kabbalah. They were open
to everything, and they had prayer groups, meditation groups. This
is way back when when I was a kid, you know,
and we lived in a thirty story building in Chicago,
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and it was wonderful. But mom later discovered actually when
they were visiting in the Philippines, she discovered that she
had a healing power flowing through her. And at that time,
you know, I just observed all these things and they
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would take me be one extreme to another. Meaning Kabbala
is quite a bit different than let's say, going to
what should I call that an open meeting or hundreds
or actually thousands of people would attend Katherine Coolman. I
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don't know, have you ever heard of her? And when
I was a kid, they often went she was a healer,
a famous healer. We would go there. And that's what
made me really think a lot of the people who
arrived in the chairs and you could tell they were
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really really had serious physical problems. They were not heal.
Often it was the person pushing the wheelchair, and this,
you know, started all kinds of thoughts in my head.
Why And I started questioning everything?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Why?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Why? Why? And as a result of that, I studied
all the world religions. I don't know if that's answering
your question exactly, but it was healing living in an
environment where everything was open and there was no fear.
You could say how you felt, and that that's very healthy.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Not everyone has that, well, you know, I believe that
not one of the major religious philosophies has all the answers.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
So I certainly.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Appreciate the the the way that your parents, you know,
looked around. They studied everything looking for endswers. And I
think that any any person who just focuses on one
philosophy is doomed for failure.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, So I thought of
them as being universal in their understanding, in their search,
and I evidently was the same way, and everything just
fell into place. I guess when we were we reached
different stages in maturity. The right people, the right circumstances
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happened to us, and we wake up a wee bit more.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Well, what's that? What's that all saying? When the student
is ready, the teacher will.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Come right right, and sometimes the teacher is awful. You know,
something that we judge at the time is negative and
it turns out to be a positive. So right, I'm
thankful for that. I think I made a right choice
my parents.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Was it a choice or was it destiny?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
That's a good way of looking at it. I really
think we have a choice at a certain level of understanding.
If you don't believe you have a choice, then you won't.
But I believe I had a choice, and I said,
I'm not going to waste time, you know, I got
to get to the chase, and that's what I did.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
So tell me, did you train for the healing, teaching
and writing ministry that you offer these days?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
No, no way, no, It just.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I would read, just like other people do who love
to read what they call the mysterious or the miraculous.
I would read a lot, but it wasn't well, I'll
put it this way. I was always psychic as a kid,
but so many of us who are psychic don't realize that.
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They think everybody's that way and you're just that's normal
to you. Like I could see with my eyes closed,
I could see if it's dark out or in the room.
I had different things, very unusual that I even didn't
discuss with my parents because I thought that's the way
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they were. And so it wasn't until a challenge came
in my life that I understood more about what I
had taken for granted, what was that.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Challenge I had had?
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I laughed, because it's sort of weird to talk about.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Excuse, excuse, excuse me just for sexually. I've been doing
this show twenty six years now, four nights a week, five,
you know, four interviews a night, five nights a week,
and there were times when I would do the show
seven days a week.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I have heard.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
So many things that nothing would surprise me or the listeners.
You're amongst friends, so you not fear anything.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Well, it's just stain in some ways embarrassing me. I
had elective surgery on my lower abdomen. Okay, and so
back then, this was a long time ago. This is now.
It's forty six years. That's a long time ago.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
So you were way ahead of your time, right, you're
a visionary you knew, right, Okay, that's great, I applaud you.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Well, anyway, there I am. And they did the stitches
on the outside at that time, and I was only
home a few days and I noticed that there was
pain in the area. I started to get red streaks, right,
and you know, all all the things that you don't
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want happening on your body.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Sounds like blos Well it was aweso.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Well then, Lord Abdaman afs oh, it was really Yeah,
it was a mess. So it so happened at the
same time that I had that elect of surgery, I
had a baby. Well, anyway, I realized I had to
go to er or call somebody, do something, you know,
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I had to do something. And so what did I do?
I decided, this is ten am in the morning, and
I know that because I had just given him a bottle.
So what I did was go back to bed. Now
that's not a logical thing to do if you have
an infection like that. And I knew I had a
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high fever, and so I went back to bed and
I lay in my back. I put the baby next
to me on the bed. Nobody was home. And what
I did, though, was I put my hands over the
area and I felt fell immediately unconscious. I say unconscious
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because I just remember putting my hands there. I remember
seeing the time, you know, and when I came to,
it was one hour later. When I came to, there
was no swallowing, no red streaks, and something had created
two openings on each end of like a six inch
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long incision, and all the infection had poured out or
you know, drained out. Sure, and so great you have
to go to hospital.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Well, thank the good Lord, you know or whoever that
whatever happened happened, and here you are today helping people.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah, I didn't pray or anything. I just made. See,
that's the thing. I made a decision. I don't want this.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Well, I'm going to share a story with you that
I don't think i've ever shared on air with people.
Years ago, about fifteen years ago, my wife came back
from work. She was working the evening shift, and she
had been complaining about pains in her stomach for a
couple of days. She came home and she said, I
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don't feel good. You know, I felt her. She's running
a fever and this and now. She said, I'm going
to go to bed. I said, no, you're not. She said,
I'm going to bed. I said, no, you're not. I'm
going to take you to the hospital right now. He says, no,
I'm going to bed. I said, listen, you have a choice.
It's either I take you or I call nine one one.
She said, all right, you take me. Take her to
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the emergency ward and the doctor, the nurse says, take
her right into treash because she's got a high fever.
And the doctor said. The nurse says, well, what do
you think is wrong? I said, it's a appendix. Now,
I'm not a doctor. I have no medical training. I've
got a bit of first aid when I was in
the police force. You know, I used to.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Teach first aid.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But I'm not a doctor. Anyway, two days they run test.
On the third day, you know what they discover. It
was her appendix. And they told and they told me,
if I would not have brought her in when I did,
she would have died, if she would have gone to sleep.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Oh you're a savior. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
And I have no, like I said, considered myself a
medical intuitive. I've never considered myself psychic. I've never considered
myself a medium. I just consider myself a person who
is very observant, and I have the uncanny ability to
retain a lot of information. Anything that I read kind
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of goes into my mind's data bank, and when I
need it, poof, it's right there. And I think that
comes and I think that this is what happened in
this case. But people I talk to over the year say, no, no,
you're a medical intuitive. No no, no, you're a psychic.
No no, no, you're this, you're that, you're there thing.
And I have figured I'm just a plain ordinary Joe.
But in your case, that is truly miraculous.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Well, your case is miraculous too. What I is like
a universal mind and we can tap into that. But
in my case, I decided consciously right that I was
not going anywhere, and who the heck would take care
of the baby? You know, all that is going right,
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I just surrendered this whole thing. So I surrendered without
really thinking that much about it, just did it. Yeah,
and that will do it in many cases where something
dressed has to be done, a decision has to be
made within us. There can't be any doubt. But the
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fact that you understood that. That's good.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
I had a guest on the other night who was
saying that if we just give our bodies a chance
to regenerate, to recuperate, to fix itself, it will.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
I agree totally.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Listen, you and I have to take our newsbreak at
the bottom of the hour. Shirley, thank you so much
for being with us. Great talking to you and ex oanation.
When we come back on the other side of this
news break, surely and I will continue our conversation. Shirley
Hall is a visionary healer, author, teacher, and public speaker,
and her website is www. Dot Healed Forever dot com.
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At www dot exbn dot net and www dot dot
cupandsaucer dot com. Shirley Hall is our special guest, and
you know during the commercial breaks, I have the opportunity
of speaking to these fine guests that we have here
on the X Zone and one of the topics that
that we touched on that I thought we should share
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on air was spiritually spirituality.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
How did you how did you phrase it, Shirley?
Speaker 7 (26:37):
I said, what's lacking on this planet is that people
have forgotten their true identity. And this has to do
with consciousness, with the divine consciousness.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Their spiritual identity.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah, why do you think that is, Shirley.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
It's been this way for thousands and thousands of years
because along comes somebody who has insight, and we've had
many beautiful beings who have They try to help people,
you know, they teach, they give their like you open
your show, it says opinions. It's their opinions, but their
opinions that have worked, you know, that have proven to
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be true and healing and loving and wise. And then
what do humans do. They twisted, you know, they change
things to suit their conditioning and their programming and it
all just goes out the window. And so here we
have all these religions, you know, everything going that's not
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really working together. And so somehow people have to awaken.
And this is one of the things I've been doing
on Facebook and LinkedIn, just putting simple couple, little sentences
here and there, trying to ignite imagination, because imagination is limitless,
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because I believe that we're supposed to evolve as not
only physically but spiritually. If we don't, it's going to
be the same nonsense for centuries, for thousands of more years.
Like you say, if the planet lasts, the Earth itself,
something has to be done. And if maybe more of
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us would speak up and use our imagination and say
what if, and that we can't. I'm not talking about
just retaining a youthful appearance and remaining healthy and you're
a good mind and agility. Many of us are doing
that naturally, and some you know, using technology and other means.
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But the point is something has to be done, and
I'm using my imagination, but I must it must be
memory to I really think of Earth like a lab
and we're here to take go from that simple consciousness
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and move up the kingdoms. I don't think we're a
finished product. We're far from a piniond I. We're far
from us and so like I've always had visions, all right, yes,
but I don't want to say so what. But there's
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a lot of us who have visions, but a lot
and amazing things happen to them. But yet a good
percent of those people get ill, they suffer, you know,
terrible things happen. So something needs to be done. And
what I think needs to be done is that we
need to bring a superior consciousness, not only in our
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conscious mind, but be aware of our body. In other words,
the miracle can happen within ourselves. Just like you know
people all the time, if let's say they're angry, often
they'll feel it in a part of their body. Like
I remember, there was somebody in my life that's causing
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me a lot of grief, and I could hardly move
my arms up in a high if I wanted to.
And then I asked myself, okay, I didn't lift anything,
I didn't hurt myself to cause this. What is the cause?
Then it flashed in my mind, which I consider it
the flash being my true self suggesting, Hey, this individual
(30:42):
and its nastiness is getting to you. Just drop it,
you know, be detached and drop it. As soon as
I did, that arm's fine, and I've seen that. I
guess what I'm trying to say. I could talk for
hours on the subject, is that we have to imagine
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ourselves greater than what we see in the mirror. You know,
we're so grand. There's this light and I've had proof
of it ever since the little girl. I've seen the
light behind not only humans, but animals and plants. Everything
has this wonderful blueprint of light. If we would bring
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more light into our minds than our hearts, you know,
and honor the body. I mean now with guns people
shooting me. It's just the opposite of everything that every
enlightened being has ever said.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
And it seems that the enlightened beings throughout history have
been persecuted.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Been laughing, that's not that's crazy. It is.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Let me ask you this, taking a look at the
world today, the trouble, the strife, the wars, the famine,
the war, the weather, the way that we're mucking up
the air that we breathe Look what we're doing to
mother Earth. You know, it doesn't take a genius to
understand that the more oil we take out of the earth,
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the more earthquakes we have. And I don't know why
people haven't thought of this before, like, hello, turn the
light on. We are raping Mother Earth. And it takes
me off to no extent because we can do other
things besides extracting oil or you know, fracking and everything
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else we're doing to this planet of ours.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
We're on the same page. What would exactly exactly? I
think just that people don't think. I mean, that's quite
an indictment, but most people don't think. They're too busy
in their own little world and they're suffering and it's
just going to go away. Or maybe they think we
have to all reach the very bottom before or something
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comes and saves them. We save ourselves, we save ourselves.
And it bothers me everything about animals, the whole thing
across the board, that people can be insensitive and perhaps
like a lot of people, friends will ask me, why
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do you think all this is going on? And I said, well, sometimes,
and I'm hoping this is what it is. Sometimes things
really have to get ugly, you know, and painful before
a soul awakens and people really begin to get it.
You know, there's so many people out there, including myself,
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you know, everyone, we would love to have change. But
what kind of change do you want? You know?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
But what is it?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
The fact that if you're not part of the solution,
you're part of the problem. Like there are way too
many Monday morning quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
In this world, you know, it's you know, like this, this.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Hatred between the world and Islam. Not everybody in Islam
is a member of isis Not everyone wants war. There's
there are millions and millions and millions and millions who
want peace, who want to live with their neighbors, who
want to prosper with their neighbors. My neighbors where I
live are Muslims. You know, I'm going to tell you something.
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They are the sweetest, kindest, most generous people, family orientated
that I have ever met. And you know, people say, oh, well,
wherever there's a mosque, that's a sign of conquering. No,
wherever there's a mosque, there's a sign of worship.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
It's whatever happened to live and let live, respect, communicate,
learn from each other, whatever happened to those days.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Well, perhaps people need to google brotherhood and ask the question,
how do all the religions feel about brotherhood? And I
did that many years ago, and by golly, they all
say the same thing, that we should treat other people
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like we would like to be treated.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well, that's one of the golden rules in the Bible.
Doing to others as you would have them doing to
you exactly.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Yeah, And so I've mentioned the Bible. I've really studied
the Bible. I studied most of the religions, and they're
basically saying the same thing. So so I say, humanity
(35:52):
I think is still in its infancy because it hasn't
discovered its true identity yet.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Over but when we realize wherein the rest of the
world realizes what you and I and so many people
that we have on this show and that listen to
the show, realize what happens if it's too late.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
That's a good question. I'm hoping that this just isn't
a lab where the same awful stuff keeps continuing. I'd
like to believe that there will be a golden age,
but it's not just going to appear because it's a
certain year. It's going to appear because the consciousness here
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has evolved. We have to grow up, we have to evolve,
we have to understand what we really are and that
like in my one book three Percent Persuasions, I write
about the different levels of conscious.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Well, let's talk about that when we come back from
this break. All right, my dear explanations Shirley holl is
our guest www dot be Healed Forever dot com and
Shirley and I will be back as we wrap up
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Surely Hall is our special guest of the hour explanation
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www dot be Healed Forever dot com. First of all, Shirley,
thank you so much for joining us tonight. It's been
a great pleasure having you on. And as I said
to you during the break, we have to have you
on because there's still so much to do, and you know,
we need to do our very best to try and
(39:33):
get people to understand. And I think it's I know
for a fact, it's people with you, your heart and
your experience that we can all make.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
A difference, I know.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
And it really for most people, it doesn't happen just
instantly where you get it. It's just like I'm sure
you've had this experience like I have. You'll read a
book and then you put it away, and years later
maybe you'll pick it up and then you'll read the
same sentence and say, oh my, that's what that means.
(40:05):
I get it, you know. But all we could do
is be an example and mention what works and just
if only people could love one another, if only those
for instance, those of us who love our animals, if
we could only, you know, love humans that way. And
(40:26):
I know a lot of people ask me, how can
you forgive people who have hurt you and abused and
so forth? And I always say to them, if those
people were whole, meaning you know, felt good about themselves,
they would never have done those things or said those things.
(40:48):
And it's the wounded that harm. So there obviously are
a lot of wounded people on this planet. And somehow,
I know, many want looking for hope. Perhaps the messages
you know we're giving, you know, one sentence to one,
maybe something will be triggered. I hope. So, because we
(41:11):
are one family, whether we like the idea or not,
regardless of what color our skin, or religion or non
religion we have, we're all one. We all came from
the same place.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
That's right, and we occupy the same space and time,
we occupy the same planet. And what I believe that
what one person does.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
There is the ripple effect.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
You know, like when a pond is nice and calm,
you toss one pebbleon it starts a ripple. You toss
another pebblin in the ripples and the ripples interact, and
I really believe that that is what happens each and every.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Moment on this planet. Before we went to the break,
you were talking to us about one of your books.
Continue about that.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
Well, I have seven books. Actually, the one is called
The Three Person wais that I really wrote to myself?
Meaning it seems it was one day. Oh, that particular
book maybe was four years ago. I'll make a guess.
(42:17):
I seemed to be writing one a year lately. But
that you hear about one is you hear about all
these things how you continue to live when you drop
your body, so to speak, and you hear about all
(42:37):
these things that just sound so magical. But one afternoon,
I wasn't meditating or anything. I just thought. I remember
I was going to the house and I decided to
sit down for a minute. I wanted to think about something.
And I can think standing up to.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
I know the feeling.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Yeah, And all of a sudden, I was aware of myself.
See if I can find words for I was this
golden light and I still could think. In other words,
I still had a mind that was working. I could
still feel I was still an individual energy. But I
(43:25):
was part of this immensity, this golden light, and I
can't Usually if I have an experience, you know, it
lasts like it's not just like a flash, last for
fifteen minutes, sometimes a half an hour. And I thought,
if only people understood this, that we don't lose our
(43:47):
identity when we physically die, that this is our true identity,
but we've forgotten it. If only more people would awaken
to this beauty and wonder and truth and magic, see
that we really are instead of so many just living
above the love of an animal. Sometimes I think an
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animal more together than we.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Animals do you do? You know why?
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Because animals know unconditional love exactly people don't.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Most people don't. I should say, yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
I will love you if if you buy me this,
I will do this, you know. And animals, God, I
love animals. I've got three little dogs at home.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
I did work for.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
The SPCA as a as a communications director. I love animals,
and I love the people who truly.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
Love animals and do things for animals because they get it,
They truly get it.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
And and when you go home, like gosh, I've gone,
I've walked to the mailbox.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Come home and it's like, wow, you've been gone for days.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Boy?
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Did we miss you?
Speaker 7 (44:57):
We love your dad and they don't care what you
look like.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Yeah, right now I have and he's everything. Is a
Manx cat. Manx doesn't have a tail, and he's Manx
and Maine coon. So he's a huge, long haired male cat.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Yeah, they're the kind of cats that go here. Doggy, doggy,
doggy can were dog.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Well, I got him from a shelter, you would laugh,
I bring smiles. Talking about smiles. How we opened up
with that subject. I bought him a pet stroller because
I live along a river and I can walk from
my house, which I do, and of course there's people
on bikes and they're walking, running everything. So I put
(45:53):
him in this stroller. It's just a cat and we
walked down the river walk. Well, sometimes people almost fall
off their bike. They can't believe it, and they're so happy,
and everybody gets off or stops and then they put
their head right up next to you know, the net.
He is in there securely because we have coyotes a
(46:17):
Laura river. But anyway, people speak in other languages to him.
It's really funny. I mean their foreigners will speak their
native tongue and then they'll say to mean English. Oh
he understands us. But such joy and animal and I
do remote healing sessions and he knows, he knows, and
(46:45):
he comes and sits with me in this special chair
and he'll sit this heavy, very large cat. Baba is
his name, And Baba puts his chest to mine and
his arms against my chest, and he closes his eyes
(47:06):
and for the period of the remote he's in bliss.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
You know, people can make noise outside. I'm in a condo,
so you can hear noises, but I am. He just
stays focused. And some people who are real sensitive, you know,
they'll pick up on him that this big cat is
sending them healing vibes. So we work together as a team.
(47:37):
And so animals are something else.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
They truly are. They truly are.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I believe that they're the creators gift to humanity and
it and it really bothers me to see any animals
get abused. We did a big special years ago on
the aquariums and how they abuse the mammals, and you know,
it's I don't think any animals should be caged. I
(48:02):
don't believe in zoos if you want to take you know,
not especially today with the Internet. You don't have to
go to a zoo to understand. And anybody who goes
big game hunting, I think they should be thrown in
jail and let the animals have fun with them.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
Well, I go along with that, meaning I just cringe.
I'm on all these lists. You know, you receive these
emails telling where there's abuse going on, and I just
can't stand it. And I have a lot of friends
the same way. It's not only the animals, you know,
it's the earth. It's people exactly, abuse across the whole planet.
(48:40):
And again I go back to because people don't understand
they're really these high spiritual beings that are totally covered
with these coats of ignorance and conditioning and programming, and
people have forgotten who they truly are. And it's pathetic.
So sure, shows like yours and the few words I
(49:02):
say here and there, if it gets out there, you know,
and others like us, there are a lot, Like I said,
there are a lot of people like us. I don't
know exactly what we are to do next, but we've
got to do something more than we're doing well.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
I think we're doing it by getting the message out there,
because the reason for this show has always been to
make the difference in one person's life each and every show.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
That's all.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
If I can make too a change or positive change
in two people's lives.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
I'm a static.
Speaker 7 (49:36):
But that scripture, you know, this is.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
My way of being part of the solution.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
What's beautiful. It's good. You've been doing it, what twelve.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
Years, twenty six years twice.
Speaker 7 (49:49):
So here's been not bad. But it's like me. I've
been doing it but on a much more not secretive.
But I've kept my life pretty quiet, you know, I
haven't gone out there.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Well, you're doing a good job tonight, I'll tell you that,
and I want to thank you ever so much. We've
just run out of time, but Shirley, we'll be in touch.
We'll have you back on and xcell Nation. If you'd
like to find out more about Shirley, her books, and
much more, visit her website at www. Dot be Healed
Forever dot com. That's www. Dot be Healed Forever dot com.
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is self mastery and a strong inclination to help humanity
discover as she has a new way to be open
to the grander sources of energy, power and love, there's
a way to improve the human suffocation and to be
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and live otherwise on this earth. She affirms that man
is a transitional being, ready to be consciously and physically
a fire of truth that burns in the heart. She
emphasizes in whatever she does that we have the inate
ability to sing another song, run a new rhythm, and
embrace the luminous joyful and sunny beings that we essentially are.
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And joining me now is Shirley Holland. Shirley welcome to
the xone.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Thank you so much, Rob. It's my pleasure.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Oh and I must tell you that I love your
I love the energy that I'm getting from you.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Good. Yeah, it's all about energy, right.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It certainly is. It certainly is.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
And you know, being a young man in the sixties,
you know, I wasn't part of the Hippie movement. I
was a little bit too young for that, but I
do remember all, you know, good Vibrations and all the
other positive songs that the singers were coming out with.
And then of course the hippies make Love Not War,
Give Piece of Chance. You know, you had the protests
against the Vietnam War. And I really think that the
(04:02):
hippies were the start of the movement, but they were
slightly ahead of their time.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
I agree with that. I agree with that. I still
have friends who are living out their understanding at the time,
and that gives me pleasure to know that that they
haven't given up. I've often wondered, haven't you where where
did all those people go.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Well, I'm married to one of them because my wife,
at a very young age hitchhiked to Woodstock.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And in fact, she is a very loving, peaceful person.
She is a professional nurse, and she has worked in
healthcare for many years and she just retired today as
a matter of fact.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Congratulations.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I know I don't know about that.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
You know that means, all right, she has all this
time now to think of more jobs for me to
do at home when I get home from the studios.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
No, no, no, no, Now she'll probably be able to
help in even a grander way of death possible.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Well, you know it is because we have six children,
ten grandchildren, and she is always busy with family matters.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
We love family, and family to.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Us is very important because we believe that by showing
the love, showing the intent, showing the proper way to
be helpful to society. To open up your arms, open
up your heart, smile at people. That this is a
very important part of what we are to do in
this transitional stage.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Exactly. And when I walk down the street, and I'm
sure you've noticed the same thing. If you smile, some
people I act like they're almost shocked.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I know, you know what's with her exactly.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
You know, my dad taught taught my brother and I
to be chivalrous. You open doors for ladies who pull
a seat out. When a lady goes to sit down,
the lady enters the room, you stand.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Up, you know.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
And when we do the like, I don't care what
other people think. I believe in my heart of hearts
that this is the way to do it. And you're right,
people look at you as if you have three heads,
four tongues, eighteen arms and they're spewing fire.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I know, I know. I have a couple of friends
that do that. Whether they're in the grocery store or
wherever they go. You know, they'll smile and they'll say
a few comments to sell on or compliment them, and
it's you could tell they're grateful. In many cases too,
you know, particularly the elderly. If you say something nice
(06:36):
to them, it's just like they're in shock.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
You know, Well they're in shock, but they they recognize
that they are being recognized and that they're a person,
and it makes them feel good inside. Sureley, you and
I have to take our first break. Please stand by
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Surely Haul is our special guest www dot be Healed
Forever dot com. And I guess, I guess. The motto
of today's show is all you need is love. Surely
was your family background one of healers and helpers who
guided you to do the great job and wonderful things
(09:17):
that you're doing today.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
In a broader sense, the grandest thing I could have
ever done is reincarnate or however you want to say,
that can drop into a body into a form that
lived with Millie and John Hall. My parents were so open,
they were universal, and that in itself is healing. Even
(09:44):
though when I was young as a child, they went
to church, but Dad taught the Kabbalah. They were open
to everything, and they had prayer groups, meditation groups. This
is way back when when I was a kid, you know,
and we lived in a thirty story building in Chicago,
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and it was wonderful. But mom later discovered actually when
they were visiting in the Philippines, she discovered that she
had a healing power flowing through her. And at that time,
you know, I just observed all these things and they
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would take me be one extreme to another. Meaning Kabbala
is quite a bit different than let's say, going to
what should I call that an open meeting or hundreds
or actually thousands of people would attend Katherine Coolman. I
(10:56):
don't know, have you ever heard of her? And when
I was a kid, they often went she was a healer,
a famous healer. We would go there. And that's what
made me really think a lot of the people who
arrived in the chairs and you could tell they were
(11:16):
really really had serious physical problems. They were not heal.
Often it was the person pushing the wheelchair, and this,
you know, started all kinds of thoughts in my head.
Why And I started questioning everything?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Why?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Why? Why? And as a result of that, I studied
all the world religions. I don't know if that's answering
your question exactly, but it was healing living in an
environment where everything was open and there was no fear.
You could say how you felt, and that that's very healthy.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Not everyone has that, well, you know, I believe that
not one of the major religious philosophies has all the answers.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
So I certainly.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Appreciate the the the way that your parents, you know,
looked around. They studied everything looking for endswers. And I
think that any any person who just focuses on one
philosophy is doomed for failure.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, So I thought of
them as being universal in their understanding, in their search,
and I evidently was the same way, and everything just
fell into place. I guess when we were we reached
different stages in maturity. The right people, the right circumstances
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happened to us, and we wake up a wee bit more.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Well, what's that? What's that all saying? When the student
is ready, the teacher will.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Come right right, and sometimes the teacher is awful. You know,
something that we judge at the time is negative and
it turns out to be a positive. So right, I'm
thankful for that. I think I made a right choice
my parents.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Was it a choice or was it destiny?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
That's a good way of looking at it. I really
think we have a choice at a certain level of understanding.
If you don't believe you have a choice, then you won't.
But I believe I had a choice, and I said,
I'm not going to waste time, you know, I got
to get to the chase, and that's what I did.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
So tell me, did you train for the healing, teaching
and writing ministry that you offer these days?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
No, no way, no, It just.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I would read, just like other people do who love
to read what they call the mysterious or the miraculous.
I would read a lot, but it wasn't well, I'll
put it this way. I was always psychic as a kid,
but so many of us who are psychic don't realize that.
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They think everybody's that way and you're just that's normal
to you. Like I could see with my eyes closed,
I could see if it's dark out or in the room.
I had different things, very unusual that I even didn't
discuss with my parents because I thought that's the way
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they were. And so it wasn't until a challenge came
in my life that I understood more about what I
had taken for granted, what was that.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Challenge I had had?
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I laughed, because it's sort of weird to talk about.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Excuse, excuse, excuse me just for sexually. I've been doing
this show twenty six years now, four nights a week, five,
you know, four interviews a night, five nights a week,
and there were times when I would do the show
seven days a week.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I have heard.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
So many things that nothing would surprise me or the listeners.
You're amongst friends, so you not fear anything.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Well, it's just stain in some ways embarrassing me. I
had elective surgery on my lower abdomen. Okay, and so
back then, this was a long time ago. This is now.
It's forty six years. That's a long time ago.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
So you were way ahead of your time, right, you're
a visionary you knew, right, Okay, that's great, I applaud you.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Well, anyway, there I am. And they did the stitches
on the outside at that time, and I was only
home a few days and I noticed that there was
pain in the area. I started to get red streaks, right,
and you know, all all the things that you don't
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want happening on your body.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Sounds like blos Well it was aweso.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Well then, Lord Abdaman afs oh, it was really Yeah,
it was a mess. So it so happened at the
same time that I had that elect of surgery, I
had a baby. Well, anyway, I realized I had to
go to er or call somebody, do something, you know,
(16:53):
I had to do something. And so what did I do?
I decided, this is ten am in the morning, and
I know that because I had just given him a bottle.
So what I did was go back to bed. Now
that's not a logical thing to do if you have
an infection like that. And I knew I had a
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high fever, and so I went back to bed and
I lay in my back. I put the baby next
to me on the bed. Nobody was home. And what
I did, though, was I put my hands over the
area and I felt fell immediately unconscious. I say unconscious
(17:36):
because I just remember putting my hands there. I remember
seeing the time, you know, and when I came to,
it was one hour later. When I came to, there
was no swallowing, no red streaks, and something had created
two openings on each end of like a six inch
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long incision, and all the infection had poured out or
you know, drained out. Sure, and so great you have
to go to hospital.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Well, thank the good Lord, you know or whoever that
whatever happened happened, and here you are today helping people.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah, I didn't pray or anything. I just made. See,
that's the thing. I made a decision. I don't want this.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Well, I'm going to share a story with you that
I don't think i've ever shared on air with people.
Years ago, about fifteen years ago, my wife came back
from work. She was working the evening shift, and she
had been complaining about pains in her stomach for a
couple of days. She came home and she said, I
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don't feel good. You know, I felt her. She's running
a fever and this and now. She said, I'm going
to go to bed. I said, no, you're not. She said,
I'm going to bed. I said, no, you're not. I'm
going to take you to the hospital right now. He says, no,
I'm going to bed. I said, listen, you have a choice.
It's either I take you or I call nine one one.
She said, all right, you take me. Take her to
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the emergency ward and the doctor, the nurse says, take
her right into treash because she's got a high fever.
And the doctor said. The nurse says, well, what do
you think is wrong? I said, it's a appendix. Now,
I'm not a doctor. I have no medical training. I've
got a bit of first aid when I was in
the police force. You know, I used to.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Teach first aid.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But I'm not a doctor. Anyway, two days they run test.
On the third day, you know what they discover. It
was her appendix. And they told and they told me,
if I would not have brought her in when I did,
she would have died, if she would have gone to sleep.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Oh you're a savior. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
And I have no, like I said, considered myself a
medical intuitive. I've never considered myself psychic. I've never considered
myself a medium. I just consider myself a person who
is very observant, and I have the uncanny ability to
retain a lot of information. Anything that I read kind
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of goes into my mind's data bank, and when I
need it, poof, it's right there. And I think that
comes and I think that this is what happened in
this case. But people I talk to over the year say, no, no,
you're a medical intuitive. No no, no, you're a psychic.
No no, no, you're this, you're that, you're there thing.
And I have figured I'm just a plain ordinary Joe.
But in your case, that is truly miraculous.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Well, your case is miraculous too. What I is like
a universal mind and we can tap into that. But
in my case, I decided consciously right that I was
not going anywhere, and who the heck would take care
of the baby? You know, all that is going right,
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I just surrendered this whole thing. So I surrendered without
really thinking that much about it, just did it. Yeah,
and that will do it in many cases where something
dressed has to be done, a decision has to be
made within us. There can't be any doubt. But the
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fact that you understood that. That's good.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
I had a guest on the other night who was
saying that if we just give our bodies a chance
to regenerate, to recuperate, to fix itself, it will.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
I agree totally.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Listen, you and I have to take our newsbreak at
the bottom of the hour. Shirley, thank you so much
for being with us. Great talking to you and ex oanation.
When we come back on the other side of this
news break, surely and I will continue our conversation. Shirley
Hall is a visionary healer, author, teacher, and public speaker,
and her website is www. Dot Healed Forever dot com.
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before we get back to Shirley, I would just like
to you. I'd just like to read to you the
preamble of the petition that we have the name of
the petition is Jan hars An Executive move On, which
is the mutual UFO network must resign. In seventeen, the
Moufon state director for both Pennsylvania and Delaware and Inner
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Circle member John Ventry posted what could only be called
racist rants to his private Facebook page. Several people reacted
to its, suggesting that such opinions were appalling. Muffon's executive
director and Inner Circle member Jan Harzen reacted with what
was called a non apology, attacking those who had reacted negativity,
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calling them haters, and then suggested that these haters might
be worse than Ventury. The offensive posts, as well as
the critical comments, were then removed. Harzen eventually announced that
Ventry had been fired as state director for both states.
The retraction came only after there had been more bad
public relations form Moufon. You can listen to Kevin Randall's
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interview here on the ex Own Broadcast Network by going
to XEDBN and hitting Kevin's show. Not long after this,
discovered that another member of the Inner Circle, Jay Z. Knight, had,
in a drunken rent, made other racially charged comments about
the Jews, Mexicans, Gays, Catholics, and organic farmers. Harzen On
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learning this ignore the severity of the comments, saying that
if she had been a state director, he would have
fired her. All three remain on the inner circle. And
while it is suggested that this inner circle has no
real influence over the workings of MUFON, other documentation, including
the Moufon website, suggests otherwise. Now, given the slow reaction
to ventries, racist rants, and the lack of real concern
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about such attitudes at the highest levels of the MUFON organization,
as evidenced by Harzen's public comments about both Ventry and Night,
it is time to remove these high ranking Moufon officials
from positions of power and oversight. The problem is systemic
at the top, and such attitudes can filter down through
the organization. Rather than stand by and watch that happen,
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The petition petition can be found.
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At www dot exbn dot net and www dot dot
cupandsaucer dot com. Shirley Hall is our special guest, and
you know during the commercial breaks, I have the opportunity
of speaking to these fine guests that we have here
on the X Zone and one of the topics that
that we touched on that I thought we should share
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on air was spiritually spirituality.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
How did you how did you phrase it, Shirley?
Speaker 7 (26:37):
I said, what's lacking on this planet is that people
have forgotten their true identity. And this has to do
with consciousness, with the divine consciousness.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Their spiritual identity.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah, why do you think that is, Shirley.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
It's been this way for thousands and thousands of years
because along comes somebody who has insight, and we've had
many beautiful beings who have They try to help people,
you know, they teach, they give their like you open
your show, it says opinions. It's their opinions, but their
opinions that have worked, you know, that have proven to
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be true and healing and loving and wise. And then
what do humans do. They twisted, you know, they change
things to suit their conditioning and their programming and it
all just goes out the window. And so here we
have all these religions, you know, everything going that's not
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really working together. And so somehow people have to awaken.
And this is one of the things I've been doing
on Facebook and LinkedIn, just putting simple couple, little sentences
here and there, trying to ignite imagination, because imagination is limitless,
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because I believe that we're supposed to evolve as not
only physically but spiritually. If we don't, it's going to
be the same nonsense for centuries, for thousands of more years.
Like you say, if the planet lasts, the Earth itself,
something has to be done. And if maybe more of
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us would speak up and use our imagination and say
what if, and that we can't. I'm not talking about
just retaining a youthful appearance and remaining healthy and you're
a good mind and agility. Many of us are doing
that naturally, and some you know, using technology and other means.
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But the point is something has to be done, and
I'm using my imagination, but I must it must be
memory to I really think of Earth like a lab
and we're here to take go from that simple consciousness
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and move up the kingdoms. I don't think we're a
finished product. We're far from a piniond I. We're far
from us and so like I've always had visions, all right, yes,
but I don't want to say so what. But there's
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a lot of us who have visions, but a lot
and amazing things happen to them. But yet a good
percent of those people get ill, they suffer, you know,
terrible things happen. So something needs to be done. And
what I think needs to be done is that we
need to bring a superior consciousness, not only in our
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conscious mind, but be aware of our body. In other words,
the miracle can happen within ourselves. Just like you know
people all the time, if let's say they're angry, often
they'll feel it in a part of their body. Like
I remember, there was somebody in my life that's causing
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me a lot of grief, and I could hardly move
my arms up in a high if I wanted to.
And then I asked myself, okay, I didn't lift anything,
I didn't hurt myself to cause this. What is the cause?
Then it flashed in my mind, which I consider it
the flash being my true self suggesting, Hey, this individual
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and its nastiness is getting to you. Just drop it,
you know, be detached and drop it. As soon as
I did, that arm's fine, and I've seen that. I
guess what I'm trying to say. I could talk for
hours on the subject, is that we have to imagine
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ourselves greater than what we see in the mirror. You know,
we're so grand. There's this light and I've had proof
of it ever since the little girl. I've seen the
light behind not only humans, but animals and plants. Everything
has this wonderful blueprint of light. If we would bring
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more light into our minds than our hearts, you know,
and honor the body. I mean now with guns people
shooting me. It's just the opposite of everything that every
enlightened being has ever said.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
And it seems that the enlightened beings throughout history have
been persecuted.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Been laughing, that's not that's crazy. It is.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Let me ask you this, taking a look at the
world today, the trouble, the strife, the wars, the famine,
the war, the weather, the way that we're mucking up
the air that we breathe Look what we're doing to
mother Earth. You know, it doesn't take a genius to
understand that the more oil we take out of the earth,
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the more earthquakes we have. And I don't know why
people haven't thought of this before, like, hello, turn the
light on. We are raping Mother Earth. And it takes
me off to no extent because we can do other
things besides extracting oil or you know, fracking and everything
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else we're doing to this planet of ours.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
We're on the same page. What would exactly exactly? I
think just that people don't think. I mean, that's quite
an indictment, but most people don't think. They're too busy
in their own little world and they're suffering and it's
just going to go away. Or maybe they think we
have to all reach the very bottom before or something
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comes and saves them. We save ourselves, we save ourselves.
And it bothers me everything about animals, the whole thing
across the board, that people can be insensitive and perhaps
like a lot of people, friends will ask me, why
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do you think all this is going on? And I said, well, sometimes,
and I'm hoping this is what it is. Sometimes things
really have to get ugly, you know, and painful before
a soul awakens and people really begin to get it.
You know, there's so many people out there, including myself,
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you know, everyone, we would love to have change. But
what kind of change do you want? You know?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
But what is it?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
The fact that if you're not part of the solution,
you're part of the problem. Like there are way too
many Monday morning quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
In this world, you know, it's you know, like this, this.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Hatred between the world and Islam. Not everybody in Islam
is a member of isis Not everyone wants war. There's
there are millions and millions and millions and millions who
want peace, who want to live with their neighbors, who
want to prosper with their neighbors. My neighbors where I
live are Muslims. You know, I'm going to tell you something.
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They are the sweetest, kindest, most generous people, family orientated
that I have ever met. And you know, people say, oh, well,
wherever there's a mosque, that's a sign of conquering. No,
wherever there's a mosque, there's a sign of worship.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
It's whatever happened to live and let live, respect, communicate,
learn from each other, whatever happened to those days.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Well, perhaps people need to google brotherhood and ask the question,
how do all the religions feel about brotherhood? And I
did that many years ago, and by golly, they all
say the same thing, that we should treat other people
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like we would like to be treated.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well, that's one of the golden rules in the Bible.
Doing to others as you would have them doing to
you exactly.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Yeah, And so I've mentioned the Bible. I've really studied
the Bible. I studied most of the religions, and they're
basically saying the same thing. So so I say, humanity
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I think is still in its infancy because it hasn't
discovered its true identity yet.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Over but when we realize wherein the rest of the
world realizes what you and I and so many people
that we have on this show and that listen to
the show, realize what happens if it's too late.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
That's a good question. I'm hoping that this just isn't
a lab where the same awful stuff keeps continuing. I'd
like to believe that there will be a golden age,
but it's not just going to appear because it's a
certain year. It's going to appear because the consciousness here
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has evolved. We have to grow up, we have to evolve,
we have to understand what we really are and that
like in my one book three Percent Persuasions, I write
about the different levels of conscious.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Well, let's talk about that when we come back from
this break. All right, my dear explanations Shirley holl is
our guest www dot be Healed Forever dot com and
Shirley and I will be back as we wrap up
this hour here in the X Zone from our broadcast
center at Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. My name is Rob McConnell,
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Surely Hall is our special guest of the hour explanation
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www dot be Healed Forever dot com. First of all, Shirley,
thank you so much for joining us tonight. It's been
a great pleasure having you on. And as I said
to you during the break, we have to have you
on because there's still so much to do, and you know,
we need to do our very best to try and
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get people to understand. And I think it's I know
for a fact, it's people with you, your heart and
your experience that we can all make.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
A difference, I know.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
And it really for most people, it doesn't happen just
instantly where you get it. It's just like I'm sure
you've had this experience like I have. You'll read a
book and then you put it away, and years later
maybe you'll pick it up and then you'll read the
same sentence and say, oh my, that's what that means.
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I get it, you know. But all we could do
is be an example and mention what works and just
if only people could love one another, if only those
for instance, those of us who love our animals, if
we could only, you know, love humans that way. And
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I know a lot of people ask me, how can
you forgive people who have hurt you and abused and
so forth? And I always say to them, if those
people were whole, meaning you know, felt good about themselves,
they would never have done those things or said those things.
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And it's the wounded that harm. So there obviously are
a lot of wounded people on this planet. And somehow,
I know, many want looking for hope. Perhaps the messages
you know we're giving, you know, one sentence to one,
maybe something will be triggered. I hope. So, because we
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are one family, whether we like the idea or not,
regardless of what color our skin, or religion or non
religion we have, we're all one. We all came from
the same place.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
That's right, and we occupy the same space and time,
we occupy the same planet. And what I believe that
what one person does.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
There is the ripple effect.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
You know, like when a pond is nice and calm,
you toss one pebbleon it starts a ripple. You toss
another pebblin in the ripples and the ripples interact, and
I really believe that that is what happens each and every.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Moment on this planet. Before we went to the break,
you were talking to us about one of your books.
Continue about that.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
Well, I have seven books. Actually, the one is called
The Three Person wais that I really wrote to myself?
Meaning it seems it was one day. Oh, that particular
book maybe was four years ago. I'll make a guess.
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I seemed to be writing one a year lately. But
that you hear about one is you hear about all
these things how you continue to live when you drop
your body, so to speak, and you hear about all
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these things that just sound so magical. But one afternoon,
I wasn't meditating or anything. I just thought. I remember
I was going to the house and I decided to
sit down for a minute. I wanted to think about something.
And I can think standing up to.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
I know the feeling.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Yeah, And all of a sudden, I was aware of myself.
See if I can find words for I was this
golden light and I still could think. In other words,
I still had a mind that was working. I could
still feel I was still an individual energy. But I
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was part of this immensity, this golden light, and I
can't Usually if I have an experience, you know, it
lasts like it's not just like a flash, last for
fifteen minutes, sometimes a half an hour. And I thought,
if only people understood this, that we don't lose our
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identity when we physically die, that this is our true identity,
but we've forgotten it. If only more people would awaken
to this beauty and wonder and truth and magic, see
that we really are instead of so many just living
above the love of an animal. Sometimes I think an
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animal more together than we.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Animals do you do? You know why?
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Because animals know unconditional love exactly people don't.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Most people don't. I should say, yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
I will love you if if you buy me this,
I will do this, you know. And animals, God, I
love animals. I've got three little dogs at home.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
I did work for.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
The SPCA as a as a communications director. I love animals,
and I love the people who truly.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
Love animals and do things for animals because they get it,
They truly get it.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
And and when you go home, like gosh, I've gone,
I've walked to the mailbox.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Come home and it's like, wow, you've been gone for days.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Boy?
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Did we miss you?
Speaker 7 (44:57):
We love your dad and they don't care what you
look like.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Yeah, right now I have and he's everything. Is a
Manx cat. Manx doesn't have a tail, and he's Manx
and Maine coon. So he's a huge, long haired male cat.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Yeah, they're the kind of cats that go here. Doggy, doggy,
doggy can were dog.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Well, I got him from a shelter, you would laugh,
I bring smiles. Talking about smiles. How we opened up
with that subject. I bought him a pet stroller because
I live along a river and I can walk from
my house, which I do, and of course there's people
on bikes and they're walking, running everything. So I put
(45:53):
him in this stroller. It's just a cat and we
walked down the river walk. Well, sometimes people almost fall
off their bike. They can't believe it, and they're so happy,
and everybody gets off or stops and then they put
their head right up next to you know, the net.
He is in there securely because we have coyotes a
(46:17):
Laura river. But anyway, people speak in other languages to him.
It's really funny. I mean their foreigners will speak their
native tongue and then they'll say to mean English. Oh
he understands us. But such joy and animal and I
do remote healing sessions and he knows, he knows, and
(46:45):
he comes and sits with me in this special chair
and he'll sit this heavy, very large cat. Baba is
his name, And Baba puts his chest to mine and
his arms against my chest, and he closes his eyes
(47:06):
and for the period of the remote he's in bliss.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
You know, people can make noise outside. I'm in a condo,
so you can hear noises, but I am. He just
stays focused. And some people who are real sensitive, you know,
they'll pick up on him that this big cat is
sending them healing vibes. So we work together as a team.
(47:37):
And so animals are something else.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
They truly are. They truly are.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I believe that they're the creators gift to humanity and
it and it really bothers me to see any animals
get abused. We did a big special years ago on
the aquariums and how they abuse the mammals, and you know,
it's I don't think any animals should be caged. I
(48:02):
don't believe in zoos if you want to take you know,
not especially today with the Internet. You don't have to
go to a zoo to understand. And anybody who goes
big game hunting, I think they should be thrown in
jail and let the animals have fun with them.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
Well, I go along with that, meaning I just cringe.
I'm on all these lists. You know, you receive these
emails telling where there's abuse going on, and I just
can't stand it. And I have a lot of friends
the same way. It's not only the animals, you know,
it's the earth. It's people exactly, abuse across the whole planet.
(48:40):
And again I go back to because people don't understand
they're really these high spiritual beings that are totally covered
with these coats of ignorance and conditioning and programming, and
people have forgotten who they truly are. And it's pathetic.
So sure, shows like yours and the few words I
(49:02):
say here and there, if it gets out there, you know,
and others like us, there are a lot, Like I said,
there are a lot of people like us. I don't
know exactly what we are to do next, but we've
got to do something more than we're doing well.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
I think we're doing it by getting the message out there,
because the reason for this show has always been to
make the difference in one person's life each and every show.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
That's all.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
If I can make too a change or positive change
in two people's lives.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
I'm a static.
Speaker 7 (49:36):
But that scripture, you know, this is.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
My way of being part of the solution.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
What's beautiful. It's good. You've been doing it, what twelve.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
Years, twenty six years twice.
Speaker 7 (49:49):
So here's been not bad. But it's like me. I've
been doing it but on a much more not secretive.
But I've kept my life pretty quiet, you know, I
haven't gone out there.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Well, you're doing a good job tonight, I'll tell you that,
and I want to thank you ever so much. We've
just run out of time, but Shirley, we'll be in touch.
We'll have you back on and xcell Nation. If you'd
like to find out more about Shirley, her books, and
much more, visit her website at www. Dot be Healed
Forever dot com. That's www. Dot be Healed Forever dot com.
(50:28):
I'll be back on the other side of this commercial
break with the news at six and a half minutes
past the top of the hour, as we continue here
in the X Zone, a place where people dare to
believe and dare to be heard, Monday through Friday, from
ten pm Eastern until two am Eastern from our broadcast
center in beautiful Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Don't go away.
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