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be talking about the politics of disclosure. Disclosure on identified
flying objects UAPs and much more. I guess this hour
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is Stephen Bassett. He has a political activist, disclosure advocate
and the executive director of Paradigm Research Group founded in
nineteen ninety six Too and a government imposed embargo on
the truth behind extraterrestrials related phenomena. He has spoken to
audiences around the world about the implications of disclosure the
formal confirmation by heads of state of an extraterrestrial presence
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engaging the human race. Joining me now is Steven Bassett. Stephen,
Welcome back to the excellent All was great having you
with us, sir, A pleasure to be with you again. Rob,
you and I were talking briefly before we went to air,
and these are very important times in disclosure and you
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must be overworked, my friend.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, it's pretty intense. I've always known that the end
days of this policy, this amazing policy of denying the world,
it's probably the most important truth any human is going
to come to understand that we're not alone in this universe,
and it were being engaged by other entities, other civilizations,
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almost certainly Star a Star, though there's some speculation elsewhere.
And it was going to be crazy, wild and it's
proving to be that, maybe even more than I would like.
It's extremely incomplicated. It's getting almost impossible to keep up
with it. Follow it's like again an escalating thing. So
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that's seventy seven years since Roswell, seventy nine years since
we ended World War Two with the dropping of bombs
in a regime in Nagasaki. Virtually my entire lifestan. I
was born six and a half months after those bombs
were dropped, and I mean rather I was how would
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you say, it began like six and a half months,
and then I was born six and a half months
before Roswell's I was right between the two. My whole
life has been parallel to these two things. And one
is not resolved yet, and that is the nuclear arms race.
It's threatens us every day. But the other is the
truth about this EP presence that is very close to
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finally being confirmed, and much has happened.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm happy to discussing how close are we, Stephen.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Technically, we're as close as one hearing in front of
our Senate Intelligence Committee. In our government. You know, you
have the two, you've got two parties, you got Congress
by Camral, but the Senate is the higher body, and
the Senate Intel Committee is probably the most important committee
in terms of national security, maybe even more so than
the Armed Services Committee of the Senate. And everyone sort
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of knows that that is where this is going to land.
It is. It's been four pieces of four important trunchis
of legis that have now been passed four years in
a row, all of them sponsored out of the Senator's
Telephance Committee. Witnesses have come forward. All the members of
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the seventeen members of Teligius Committee, the grief number of
times have met with witnesses. The number that are currently
available for a hearing could be easily forty fifty sixty,
and so at any time the committee chair, Mark Warner,
Senator Warner could call that hearing and bring those witnesses in,
not for a half a day like David Grush's hearing
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before the House Subcommittee, but before the full committee for
a week, perhaps four witnesses a day, two in the morning,
two in the afternoon, twenty David Grushes, I can assure
you watch, by God knows how many millions of people
around the world would blow up the truth in Barco
once and for all, and then set the stage four
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disclosure itself, which would be the president coming forward subsequent
to that extraordinary hearing and a very non partisan, a
very non partisan way, minimally political. Say, look, I've watched,
I heard the destiny, watched the testimony, as you have
discussed it with all of my top eys and so forth,
and we clearly understand it. We're not alone, and you
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want to know more and where We're going to do
our best to get you that, and we have legislation
that's been fast to help them out go. So that's
how close we are one hearing, but calling that hearing
is no easy matter.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Now with the elections coming up in November for your president,
between President Biden and President Trump, how will this affect,
if any, the the exploit of the you know, the
announcement by a president that the ets are here.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Oh, it's already effected. My hope, and we certainly had
a chance to do this. My hope was we get
disclosure before the election got serious. This is a nonpartisan issue.
It's been treated in a nonpartisan way. It's not really
been politicized at all, and we don't want to be politicized.
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But there's been a lot of things happening in the
last couple of years, as you will know, very dangerous,
awful claims and enormous political up people in the United States,
and so that has made it more difficult for our
politicians who are notoriously risk abursts. And the reason for
that is how much it costs to run for office.
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A couple of million bucks maybe five million, six million
to get a seat in the Congress that maybe pay
two hundred two hundred fifty thousand a year, the same
for the White House, I spend a billion. And so
it's like anything you say anything wrong you do, you
lose funding, you get primary by your own party. So
they're terribly risk a burst. That's why it's so difficult
to get anything done down and this issue is massive,
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and so that has kind of stretched things out, and
unfortunately it has pushed it now into the political arena,
into the campaign and.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's get why is the go ahead?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I was just going to ask you, Steven, is there
any way that this topic, the topic of disclosure, the
hearings can actually be derailed or shut down.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Well, interestingly enough, we had huge developments take place over
a period of three or four years, and we hit
a point last earlier this year or late last year
rather when the Department of Defense panicked and actually tried
to shut it down. It was a very long story
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to cover, but essentially, when David Brush came forward with
his extraordinary testimony in June the fifth of last year,
followed up by his testimony under oath on July twenty six,
the House Oversight Subcommittee the people inside the DoD and
others like the bench contractors, and they had to those
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companies really had to face the fact that disclosure was
coming at them fast. And those that could not tolerate
that or bear that possibility decided to try to push
back really hard. And the first thing they did was
to strip the Schumer bill UFO Disclosure Act of all
of its powers in a very open, aggressive way. It
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was clear what was going on. And then there was
the out of themselves and the bill. There was a
bill pass It had the effence of what Schumer was
trying to do, but it took away the powers and happened.
In other words, that left the decisions ultimately in the
hand to go through all the secrets and the et
tech and the et bodies and everything else. And so
that that was a blatant move, but it didn't work.
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It didn't stop things. Schumer came back and read into
the record in the Senate that he add was not done.
They were going to continue to come after this and
the people opposing and had gutted that bill and knew
that he could reintroduce the bill as they standalone bill.
And then they probably reflected on the fact that Mark
Warner cannot be stopped. There's no way they compare anything,
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calling the hearing and bringing those witnesses in to testify
under oh, and so they really got upset. And what
they did next was really striking, and that is that
they tried to do in nineteen I mean twenty four
what they successfully did in nineteen sixty nine, which is
they held a brief airing in sixty eight with together
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a report out of the University of Colorado under doctor
Edward Condon which stated nothing to see here, used that
report as a basis shut down the Bluebook program, which
was causing a lot of problems for them. Then they
went and destroyed NICAP, which is a very important organization
at a time with five thousand members. And then they felt, hey,
our work was done here and they got about eight
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nine years where things really slowed down. They actually tried
to do that again in twenty twenty four, and so
in an act of desperation, they kind of put together
a report that supposedly was the account of the arrow
All Domain non Ominly Resolution Office study had John Kirkpatrick,
who was about to quit and was about to leave,
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got him the sign off on it and put that
out there. And the report was the conju report all
over again. It's basically saying there's really nothing to this.
They didn't find anything. It was a complete lit from
the first word to the last word. And so that
effort was made. It did not work. It failed because
this is like twenty twenty four, the social media, the
Internet and the power of global communication people all around
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the world just shredded that that report and showed it
to be what it is in disgrace. So then things
are moving forward again. The next thing that happened is
a clear indication that they can't win. This was then
Robert Garcia, who is a member of the House, a
Democrat at the House. Nevertheless, that's no big deal, it's
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a non part of an issue. He reintroduced the Schumer Bill,
essentially into the House to be considered for the next
National Defense authorization after In other words, they put shove
it right back in this place. So that is what's happening.
Is it possible to stop disclosure?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Is it possible to turn this back in nineteen sixty nine?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Is it possible to screw this up and have what
many would refer to as catastrophic disclosure? Oh? Yes, And
so right now we're at a very critical moment. Why
because the first debate is coming up in seven.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Days, Yeah, twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And as it happened, candidate former President Donald Trump did
give an interview recently to a Internet influence.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
All right, stand influence, all right, and Stan Logan, Stephen
standby you and I have to take our first break exonation.
I guess this hour is a good friend of the
X own Stephen Bassett, and his website is Paradigmresearchgroup dot org.
And Stephen and I will be back on the other
side of this break as we continue here on the
excellent broadcast network from our studios in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada,
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on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty streaming at Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. I was waiting for soul for americals.
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Come everyone sold me to be true.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Indulganity through the douglasson.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
A New Kid.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Explanation, h Steve Ambassador is our special guests. That's we're
talking about the politics of disclosure and the what's going
to happen in the future when it is brought to
the public that yes, in fact, there is a uf
UFO interaction that has been going on for some time now. Stephen.
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What are there other countries that are fighting as vigorously
as those that you're working with to end disclosure in
their countries?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No, No, there there have been a few things that
have happened a few countries over time, a bit and notable.
But it's it was clear to me early on that
the diet was cast. In forty seventeen, forty seven and
fifty three you had the roswell event, the press release
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went out. The government was able to deal with that.
Then they kind of avoided it and didn't really have
to engage it again until fifty two and there was
a massive flyover of our capital. So as things solidified,
the situation was pretty straightforward. The United States was clearly
the most powerful economic nation in the world. It was
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the first nuclear power, and there was already quite clear
indications that there was going to be another conflict and
it was going to be seen the West and the
economist world. China took a little while to get it together,
but the Soviet Union was the enemy of the West
right then, and so a nuclear arms race was in
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the mix. The US would be the absolute lead power
in order defending all democratic nations, and so all of
the allies, any allies at that time, and there were
probably a number who knew something was going on, who
knew that this phenomenon was real, made the decision that
they would refer to the United States. We were the
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leader in terms of the Western did not mocrasyear, so
what have you. And then so Union in China had
no interest in getting into the subject. It was an
authoritarian state, does not want to create a paradigmship like that,
and so they weren't going to say anything about it,
and so that basically wrapped it up from that point
for it is. It has remained that way even to
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this day. There are many countries that are fully aware
of the ATA presidents some even have crash vehicles, but
they are deferring to us. It's our call, unless, of course,
one of the authoritarian states like China or or Russia
or to move on it, in which case they would
lead and they would do the disclosure country to disclosure President.
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But at this point it's in the hands of our
to this. So that is the situation. That's the basic
reason why it's not that they're stupidtered and don't have radar,
don't have planes to go up and get CONCME reportage
of these things. It's that they have deferred to the
United States. I don't put say that it was probably
appropriate decision. But now as we head into the next
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into the first campaign debate, things are getting a little strange.
And the reason is this, there's only the eight question
has only come up in one national level debate ever,
and that was a primary debate, a debate of Democratic
primary candidate in twenty sixteen. It looks as if the
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question is going to come up in seven days in
for the first time in a national level presidential debate,
and it will be on CNN between President Biden and
former President Trump. President Trump went on a program called
Impulser Slogan Paul. A lot of people think Logan polished.
It is an Internet influencer and a big deal. That
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would be a mistake. He has twenty seven million subscribers
to his main YouTube channel, four point five million to
his show Impulsive. He has I think thirteen million Twitter followers.
His videos have been seeing probably seven to eight billion
times views. And so they discussed the ET issue came up,
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and so in this sense, President Biden is the first
person to engage it at all. Almost a mixed kind
of conversation, not little clear, but it was there. Meanwhile,
there are number of groups that are pressing on the
Internet for the questions to be asked in this debate
on the twenty seven. So I think it's highly likely
it will happen. But that is very complicated. Here's why.
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The candidate for president anything they want, I mean, they
can talk about ets, they could say this, they could
say that whatever they're freed up to do that. The
other candidate, the president, is not simply a candidate to
the president, is also the president, and so addressing any
question like that, which is the highest level of national
security put him in an impossible position. It would be
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very difficult for President Biden to be able to respond
to any question in a way that would seem remotely authentic,
and that's not going to serve him well. And so
the whole thing is very possibly about the de politicized.
But the question comes up, there's answers, and then the
two parties start ripping each other up afterwards over this
issue and whatever way they think will get them both.
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This is something I've dreaded for twenty six years. I
thought for sure it wouldn't happen. But the circumstances of
the last years, which includes the pandemic, let's don't forget that,
have shoved this thing into this space and where it's
going to go. I don't know. It can't stop disclosure,
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but it can certainly make the final months of the
truth embargo a mess and damnage the ability to do
this thing right, constructively and the best interest of all people.
That kind of another way of putting what I'm looking
looking at what I'm having to face.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Right hypothetically, how do you think President Trump is going
to handle this disclosure question? Is is President Trump based
on your you know, based on the knowledge that you
have working on the hill so hard and diligently as
you do.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Is is he.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Savvy as to what's happening on with the with the
disclosure and the UFO question.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Savvy, No, unpredictable. Yes, who knows what he will be told?
Is learning the next seven days now that this thing
is kind of dropped in his lap. He did get
asked a couple of questions while he was president. The
responses were not particularly formidable in any way, and there's
just some light response. He did not take the issue
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on clearly he did. He did help generate the space force.
A lot of people thought that was an ety thing.
I seriously doubt that the dependagon will take any news
force that you can give them because it means more money. Sure,
there is going to be potentially a war in space,
but that would be humans, and that's already in the
works in a sense. So I just don't think that
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the interest is there. But now who knows. I can't predict.
All I can say is a lot of people are
going to be watching. I can't imagine the size of
the audience. And to watch this debate on the twenty seven,
I think it's going to be really big. Sands that
make a lot of money got two commercials, But again,
you don't want this issue politicized. It is, it transcends politics.
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It is it has been treated in a non It
is a non partisan issue that's been treated in a
five partisan way. One of the very few things it is,
if to me, our last best chance to get these
parties and people working together again instead of each other's throats.
But yet, what can you do? I mean, it is
what it is, and right now I'm a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Stephen. Let us say that disclosure is announced. What happens
after that announcement? How is this going to apply affect
the political outcome of the United States and the other countries,
And what is going to be, in your opinion, the
effect that it's going to have on John Q public.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, first of all, let me make a key point
that I've made in a couple of hundred podcasts over
the last three years. Everything has been happening, the legislation,
the creation of various organizations and task force, now all
the main Resolution Office studies from the Manassa, all the
briefings have been going on in Congress, a lot of briefings.
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The Congress is more educated on this issue than ever.
All of this has nothing to do is trying to
figure out the phenomenon. The government's known about the phenomena
seventy plus years, so what is it about. It is
been about the fact that a critical mass of people
within the military intelligence complex and possibly within the political class,
have figured out that the Trunckenburger is going to end.
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It's not going to allow much longer. And so they
knew they had to get all this together. They had
to get legislation, they had to get an organization together,
they had to brief Congress. They had to get all
of this done. Otherwise, when if disclosure were to come,
say from another head of state, they would it would
be in a totally impossible situation, the chaos that would
ensue immediately thereafter, they would have nothing to deal with it,
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no laws, no organization, nothing, And so all of this
has been about preparing for disclosure itself. But they couldn't
say that. They couldn't say, oh, we're creating arrow because
there's an ET presence here, or we're briefing Congresses there's
an EQ presence here, because that, of course would be disclosure.
And so they had to misrepresent what they're doing and
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able to be able to prepare for ultimately telling the truth.
So it's it is another lie to get out from
a bigger lie. I understand, I accept it. I understand
why they're having to do it. So that's the first thing,
all right, And so they have all this set up
and so uh well, the bill, the final bill needs
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the powers put in and maybe that'll happen in December
if the garcia's language stays in the final bill, the
uap X and then nda A. So but basically they're
set up so if disclosure happens the next day, I
could well. If it happens on a Friday night, will
be Mondays. But it happens any of the time, it
will be the next day. The next day. Every briefing
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room and this in this town, my faun is going
to be filled with media. I mean they're going to
be standing room only. They're going to be out the halls.
We're talking about the presidential White House briefing room, the
d D briefing one held or one at the CIA
kick A briefing room. It's packed with reporters and they're
all going to have one hundred questions. And so the
government is going to be facing off against this massive
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journalistic onslought and they're going to have to deal with it.
But again there's spend plenty of preparation. Uh, there's not
a lot of surprise here the way, and so they'll
start answering questions and they better we'll be telling the truth.
And so at that point, the post disclosure world begins.
And what goes forward after that, assuming the UAP Disclosure Act,
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as Humor originally conceived it is passed, is that. And
that act was the final piece of the whole preparation,
the Disclosure Act assumer which included the Control Disclosure. The
plan essentially describes how everything in our governor, every classified
file related to this technology bodies, everything was going to
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come out, become public and the archived. Now, the process
would be carefully scrutinized, it would be controlled. Some things
will be delayed, pushed back, but with the declaration, others
would move forward. So it's the kind of a process
back and forward, but ultimately moving one direction. And that
acord full transparency might take two, three, four years before
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most of it, all of it is out, but nevertheless
it would be other way. So if that act is
in place, close disclosure, that's exactly what will start happening,
and you'll start seeing things come out that were not
known before. The public will be very happy about this.
There would be pressure to keep the pace up and
slowly the world will learn ultimately everything that my government knows. However,
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other countries will follow suit, and so you can expect
the UK, Canada, Australia, other countries, France, what have you
are also going to start bringing out what they have.
They may pass their own laws whatever, and so you're
going to see stuff coming out on the et reality
it's been sheltered and embarbered for seventy seven years, coming
out from multiple countries. It's going to be intense. It's
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going to be amazing. There'll be many more hearings that
will take place, certainly in our Congress, how then Senate
as various aspects of various committees address various issues that
are attended to the implication of this reality. So that'll
be going on and there will be a lot of confusion.
There will be some criticisms. Certainly the.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
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Speaker 2 (27:35):
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Speaker 1 (27:40):
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Speaker 2 (27:44):
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Speaker 1 (28:01):
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Speaker 2 (28:09):
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Speaker 1 (28:19):
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Speaker 2 (28:25):
Best.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
This is the end. This is the end of the
innocence by Don Henley. Is that where we're looking at here,
stephen the end of the innocence, where the innocence pertaining
to us being alone in the universe is just going
to be blasted out of out of space. And if
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these entities have been working with us, or we have
known about them since the days of Roswell, why have
why have we tried to progress when it comes to
space travel, going to the moon? Why has NASA been
given so much money if we already know that once
disclosure is made, everything will be no longer necessary.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
A very complicated question historians will should ponder for decades
and decades. The primary reason for initiating a Truth from
Bargo and keeping it going for seventy seven years was
national security of the highest level, at a level never
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foreseen history of the human race. What do I mean?
National security? And sense that a nuclear arms wace was
underway by forty seven and smart people in Marshington knew
who was going to continue and get incredibly bad. It
did forty seven to eighty seven. Forty years, I think
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nine countries became nuclear and the number of nuclear weaponces
in the eighty five thousand range, many stockpiles and thousands
ready to launch. In many different ways, we have been
on the verge of annihilation, destruction of the Western civilization,
certainly almost all of the northern hemisphere for my entire life.
And that you don't get more national security than that.
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And so the decision to embark with the truth of
the at presence was under that aegis, and that's powerful
and as a result, nothing else matters, right, the fact
that that the space program might look awkward down the line,
or maybe we're working on tech that could get us
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to the moon in other ways, so why waste the
money on rocket? No, they had to conduct their affairs
as if there was no et presence, no crash vehicles,
none of that. To do it any other way would
be to draw attention to this embargo.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
It was.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
It was the truth embargo uber all everything else is secondary,
and that is why there are so many oddities and
by so much causit and dissidence about why they do this,
Why do they do that? I get it, But until
the truth embargo has ended, we're not going to be
able to get back to a more rational, appropriate, and
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transparent conduct of our affairs. In fact, the truth embargo
is symbolic of a gradual disintegration of authenticity in the
United States and in some other other Western countries who
want to be democratic, a collapse of confidence and trust
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in government, which is fatal in a democratic system. It's
not fatal in a dictatorship. A dictatorship could care less
you would trust them or not, and if you give
them a hard time, they'll just shoot you in the head.
So are we are in serious trouble across multiple fronts,
and and a lot of that goes to the nuclear
arms race which we've been living under and is forced
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nations to spend untold trillions of dollars they could have
been feeding and clothing and housing and protecting the environment,
but instead is spent in abject sphere of the other right,
all of this time, trillions and trillions of dollars in
modern dollars, it's hard to pick a number, could be
one hundred trillions. And so that is basically the critical
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cost that nuclear arms race. But then the truth embargo
of these he presents underneath that has also been a standard,
and so it's been a pretty amazing seventy seven years
in some respects, but it also could be the end
of democracies. There are some now reports coming out from
esteem anthropologists and other futurest geniuses and stuff about the
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Bronze Age and at the end of the Bronze Age,
how a whole range of civilization seems to collapse at
the same time, and they're examining why that happened and
pointing out, well, it seems to be happening.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
What can I say? I don't want to be I
don't want to be responsible at all for the collapse
of civilization. I think that ending the truth in Bartago
on the ET presence is incredibly important to the history
of a human race right now. And one of the too,
there's a couple of reasons. One is that there is
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an in incredibly important connection between the nuclear weapons and
our nuclear arms race and the ET presence. What is
that they are actually intertwined. And the way we know
this is first the overall presence of ets and phenomena
prior to World War Two is minimal, absolutely minimal. There
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is nothing hardly and not the There wasn't something, but
it was very little. And then during the war there
was seemed to be a lot of surveillance of of things.
We saw these FOO fighters basically plasma devices that seem
to be following our claims around not a big deal.
But then after the bombs were dropped in Hiroshima, everything
changed and they started You started seeing a lot of
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phenomena and a lot of it was over our nuclear facilities.
That was not an accident. And then forty seven in
just a part of only twenty years, all of a sudden,
a decision was made. A few years after the Cuban
Missile crisis where we almost had a nuclear war, these
crafts started coming down, hovering over our ITVM facilities and
turning the weapons off. Now that's been known for a
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long time, but the Congress will not take a hearing
on it, though they're about to, and in the Department's
defense just said they don't know what they don't know
what they're talking about. They just ignored it. These witnesses
have been trying to get in front of a committee
and they're about to finally have their day. These are
witnesses to our missiles being shut off not once, but
a number of times. We also have evidence they've shut
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nuclear weapons down in the Soviet Union, shut them down,
they get turned back on that right in and of itself,
this connection is clear. There is a connection between the
escalation of their presence in the modern era and our
nuclear arms race and these weapons, and so I think
that disclosure is the doorway to possibly bringing that into
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play in a very useful way, possibly leading to open contact,
possibly ing tough discussion between us and them about what
we're going to do about these weapons. So there is
a connection here, and it may be the only way
out of this situation that we'd have so carefully crafted
since nineteen forty five when we tested the damn bomb.
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Then we dropped it on human beings, and we built
tens of thousands of them, put them on missiles and
submarines and underground facilities and movable tracks, and eventually they're
going to go into orbit. How are we going to
get out from this? Nobody even comes forward with an
explanation anymore, No candidate will even touch it. It is
now the third rail of American politics. Used to be
social security, no more right now, it is e an
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ekey issue is no longer the third rail. The third
rail now in American politics is the eminent risk of
nuclear war. They will not talk about it, the pandates,
candidates will not address it. But in fact, it's increasingly
obvious to American people and the world's people that we
are on the edge of the volcano, and so truth
and bargo may be tied to that. It may be
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the way out of that. That's how important it is.
I already know there's EPs here. I've known that since
I was kids, basically, and so disclosure is not, oh,
I get to know there's EPs here, that's nothing. Disclosure
is about figuring out how the human race can get
out of this ridiculous, absurd, grotesque situation it has created
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where you have nine nuclear nations more to come, who
could trigger a nuclear war at any time just by accident,
and they almost have on a number of occasions. How
long are we going to get away with that? How
many times can you throw the dice and not come
up snake offs? And so that's what the stake here
as we come on this election and how it's going
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to go, and how disclosures can happen. These are the
things that are rolling around in my head as I
try to figure out how things are going to happen
and what I can do to consider.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Okay, so the first step is disclosure. Somebody comes out
and says, yes, they've been here, this is a proof
and everything else. Then contact, Then contact.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, how long are you I think two years after
that's contacting?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Really, how do we do that?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
There's already plenty of contact, you know, but it's private,
it's individuals, and it's about something other than this new issue.
It's separate. It's something the echis need to do. They
have a reason one day that they know that reason.
The people are having direct contact with each it's not
by invitation, all right, and so that is a whole
other issue, and the government knows they're going to have
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to address that issue after disclosure. They're not looking forward
to that, and that is one of the number of
reasons why they just kind of hope that maybe disclosure
ever happens while they're in office or even alive. But yeah,
that's going to be a question probably ask on day one.
In the words that the presence discloses on Monday Tuesday morning,
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a number of reporters are going to ask that question,
does this mean that all that we've been hearing about contact,
abduction or whatever by humans by non humanities is true?
And the government's going to have to say yes. They
would be out of their mind to say anything else.
So it's going to be employed immediately. I get it.
It's going to be tough. It's gonna be rough. So
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what if you want to if you join the military,
or you want to get appointed to GF eighteen at
the Pentagon, you want to run for office, but you
can't handle the tough stuff, you can't handle the difficult
public relations problems, and don't take those jobs. Do something else.
But if you take those jobs, by God, you have
got to deal with those things, and you've got to
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confront them, and you've got to tell the truth. I
don't care how hard it is. I have no sympathy
anymore for the corrastination, the timidity, and even cowardice of
the people that pretend to leave us and defend us.
It is no longer acceptable. After in that mat fashion,
you and.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I have to take our final break, Stephen, But before
we go, quickly, has President Biden showing any any direction
that he would take on the et as question and
disclosure by necessity.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
President Biden has absolutely stayed out of it. He is
really aware of what's going along. He knows it has
to be delivered to him. He can't go after it
because that'll politicize it.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
All right, Stephen, please stand by almost great talking to you, Stephen,
and explanation. If you'd like to contact Stephen Bassett, visit
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Speaker 1 (40:00):
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Speaker 3 (41:22):
Steph Ambassadors our special guest this hour ex Nation Paradigm
Research Group dot org. Stephen, there are a number of
people who investigate right research the UFO phenomenon. They say
that there are many different races of ets that have
come to this planet, are here on this planet. Is
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there any possibility that because of disclosure and the awakening
of the fact that ets are here, that this may
cause a war between planet Earth and some of these species.
And if that was to happen, are we prepared to
do with the ET war factor?
Speaker 4 (42:06):
I can assure that there's nothing we can do that
would make a decision about them having a war. Now
they could, they could, they can destroy us any something.
Want simple reality of the physics that they are able
to command. Uh, it's not even a close context. So
it's not even don't even worth thinking about it. You
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should want one should be very worried about war between
humans and certainly a nuclear war, but spending time worrying
about a war with ET's and to say if it happens,
we lose, that's it. But the extraterrestrials have been done.
I've done so many things that have helped advance the
disclosure process. Moving is towards awareness, Moving is toward itself acknowledgement.
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That's not the conduct that would expect from from an
entity that is going to suddenly go to war. If
some head of state comes forward and says, oh, yes,
they're here.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, Well, I'm not saying that that whoever with the
government is claiming that they work with are the bad guys.
But if if the ability is seen by other ets,
that all right Earth knows that we are real, you know,
what's the sense that why wouldn't they try to take
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over this planet? You know, I'm not saying that they
you know, like something something here doesn't make sense, Like
if the UFOs and the ets are here, and why
haven't they made themselves known to the major population. Why
is it only these few people if you take a
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look at the number of sightings compared to the world
population that have had these experiences, Why wouldn't they just
land on the White House? Why wouldn't they land on
Parliament Hill? Why wouldn't they land in Red Square wherever?
I understand to prove their existence?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Look, well, I don't think proving their existence is necessarily
the agenda. I think the first of all, we don't
know why they do what they do. We can only speculate. Secondly,
there's no question that they're here. The question of whether
they're working with a government or any government or is
not clear, and I assert that and I'm not convinced
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of that. I'm not saying it is impossible, but that's
not a given. But they're clearly here, all right, And
we can only speculate the agenda. But the best answer
I can give, and I'm answering that question in the time,
is that first of all, they have they have some
work they're doing here. They need to do it. It
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relates to contact, it relates to genetics, and it involves
working with humans. This is something they're doing I think
for their benefit, and that's separate. But then there is
more of a political agenda. And the best interpretation I
have a so called agenda is this, our nuclear arm
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trace is an abomination. It threatens our civilization, which took
quite a few billion, a couple of billion years upon
the develop and they probably see that as a rather
unnecessary waste, so they would prefer we got rid of
these moves. However, we're also getting close to understanding how
to move from star to star. If we crack that problem,
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which is essentially a relativity problem. If we can get
around that, which I think they have done, We're going
to build starships, we're gonna put nuclear weapons on them,
and we're going to add on out of the space
to see what we can see. And so that in
a way is a deadline whatever's going on and whatever
their timeframe is, our building starships capable of reaching other
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systems and putting nuclear weapons on those ships is an
absolute deadline. And so that is probably the one thing
that could determine when they're going to get to take
that step. And apparently prior to that deadline they're comfortable
with us reaching a state of self disclosure. We've certainly
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got it used to the issue. We've we've made six
hundred movies with ets in them of every conceivable shade
form and type. Is it not a person on a
planet doesn't know what a UFO is or whether an extraterrestrialist. Practically,
the reality of them is becoming known known around the
world now by a very large percentage of the mirror
of the population, and so we're getting acclimated pretty well,
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and so ultimately we will self dislose. Now, once we
self dislose, well, all the research comes forward edge, the
learning curve expands and the world becomes very et aware
and the history is known. At that point, open contact
would be anaclimactic. Open contact means actual public engagement of
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our authorities. We know what the discussion is, we know
what the issues are, and that's taking place. It will
be the first open situation in a modern era. I
don't know about the ancient times in which there are civilization,
a fully global space during civilization is actually having conscussions
with non human civilizations from elsewhere. That open contact, I
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think is about two years after disclosure, which could happen
this year, so that puts it out around twenty twenty six.
And I happen to think that one of the first
topics of discussion will be the nukes, and it'll be
about the fact they got to go, and if they
don't go, we're never going to leave this planet and
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we may not get any cooperation from them something like that.
That's the best answer I've got for the time frame
and why they don't do this or do do that.
But the one thing is absolutely clear, there is an intense,
considerate connection between their presence here at this time and
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our nuclear weapons globally and I think ultimately that is
what we're going to find out. And my concern is
that we can still have that nuclear war tomorrow. And
while some people think they'll just turn the rockets off
and turn the missiles off and they'll all be fine,
I am deeply suspicious of that. I don't necessarily think that.
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I actually doubt that, because if we did have a
nuclear war, that would simply mean that our chances or
the potential of us having starships farms with nuclear weapons
heading on out there to see what we can see
is probably put off hundreds and hundreds of years, which
cas they might just take off or while come back
see how we do it. Best answer I can give you, Rob,
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because it's a tough question.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Why do you think that there'd be nuclear arms on
the spacecraft starships?
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Our ships? Absolutely? Hey, if you watched our movies, even
Star Trek, which is about this really noble of of
effort to go out and go where no men has
gone before, those ships are heavily armed. They were always
firing int something setting off what it brokes the torpeed us.
The human race is what it is. But I'm sure
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that the nations of this world consider the galaxy open carriage.
So there's no way we're heading out with nuclear without
arm ships. Okay, okay, for the first time, how would
you say danger?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
All right, First of all, I've got about two minutes left, Stephen.
Now what I'd like to say is, first of all,
Starship was you know, Star Trek was a movie science fiction?
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Okay, So LA's number one. Number two? Do you really
think that Russia, North Korea, China would actually give up
their nuclear weapons?
Speaker 4 (49:49):
All I can say is is that the disclosure will
be the most the greatest paradigm shift in history and
history of human race. And the nature of paradigm shift
goes like this. In the scientific world, you make a
huge leap of understanding, you call it a huge paradigm shift,
and with that new understanding, you double back on a
plethora of other scientific issues and problems you could not
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solve before, but with the new understanding you can solve.
That's what the truth in Barber creates a worldview paradigm
shift of such proportion that once we're once we're in
that area, once we made that worldview shift, we can
then double back and suddenly start solving and dealing with
the problems now that we consider insolvable. Do you think
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these oh, I'm simply saying, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Do you think the human race, the human races, is
actually ready and capable at this time in our development
as a human race to do that?
Speaker 4 (50:48):
All I can say is at this point no. But
the only thing that could possibly take us to that point,
there is only one candidate, one candidate to that, and
that is worldwide formal confirmation of extraterustrial presence in our world.
That is the one thing that to take us somewhere
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where we could possibly deal with that. Without that happening,
we are doomed. And my concern right now is that
we could have a nuclear war before we get disclosure.
If disclosure looks good, and I think we could see it,
but that the possibility of nuclear wark that happened tomorrow.
It's kind of a race between these two things. Why
I had a paradigm clock. Paradigm clock midnight was a
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disclosure doomsday clock midnight to nuclear war. So these two
clocks have been racing each other for seventy seven years,
and it said, I'm not sure which is going to
happen first. When these are strange times, unusual times, extraordinary times.
I'm fortunate to be part of it. I'm fortunate to
be able to make a difference in some way, and
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for that I'm very grateful. But the truth is, of course,
is that when you get into this, you start to
understand these things. You know, we really are close to
ending this whole damn thing.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
What happens on that and what happens on June twenty seventh.
What happens on June twenty seventh after the debate between
President Biden and President Trump, No one mentions disclosure. No
one mentions UFOs, No one mentions anything about the UFO
et presence.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
That would probably be a positive because it would keep
it from getting politicized and in the process leading to
getting those series done would be less impeded, and we
could still have that hearing before the election. We could
still have disclosure before the election. But if it gets politicized,
probably not so. I would be quite happy if except
it didn't come up, even though I've wanted it to
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come up in every single presidential debate prior.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
To this Stephen the times coming when I must say
so long to you, my friend, I wish you well
continued success, and I look forward talking to you after
the debate. Maybe we can get you back on and
have a good chat about what happens. Steven, take care
of yourself, you too, Thank you good nice sir. Explanation.
I guess this hour has been Stephen Bassett and if
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