September 11, 2025 • 57 mins
Von Braschler is the author of several books on consciousness development that range from time travel to visualization, energy healing, and thought power. Recent books include Time Shifts, Seven Secrets of Time Travel, Manifesting, Confessions of a Reluctant Ghost Hunter, and Mysterious Messages from Beyond. Von is a former award-winning journalist and former faculty member of the Omega Institute for Holistic Studies.
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you might have. My guess this hour Exponation is von Broschler.
He is an author of several books on consciousness expansion
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and has published books on everything from time travel to
lucid dreams, thought power, out of body travel, ghosts, and
energy healing. He is a former member of the Omega
Institute for Holistic Studies in Rhinebeck, New York, and has
led workshops throughout the United States and the United Kingdom.
He is a former award winning journalist. Currently, Vaughn lives
(01:57):
on a small rustic island in the San Juan Islands,
just off the coast of Washington State near Vancouver, BC.
Joining me now is von Broshlar and Vaughn. Welcome back
to the excellent nice having you with us.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Thank you, Rob.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
It's so kind if you get to have me back.
I've been on the show, but a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, And as it seems that more and more people
are interested in the topics that you talk about, you know, dreams,
past lives, time, traveling, consciousness than ever before. More and
more people are asking these serious questions and to what
do you attribute that to?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Von Well, I think that these are the big these
these are the gateway to the important questions Who am I?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Why am I here? What am I.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Supposed to be doing in my life? What is it
I'm supposed to remember? And how do I get on
with doing what I'm supposed to do here? I think
these are the big questions and all of these are
like salad dressing to addressing those questions. Now, I didn't
pick any of these questions, any of these topics that
(03:07):
I'm write about. They just seem to come to me
as they come to everybody else, that these are the
topics that we need to focus on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Faun.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
What started you on your quest into all the topics
that you are interested in? What happened in your life?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I thought I had a normal childhood, but I guess
I didn't. I came back from the first grade and
the kid across the street and said, what do you
mean when you stood up and everybody was supposed to
say where they were from originally, and you cited a
planet that I've never heard of, And I said, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It just came to me.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I guess I've always been kind of a little out
of sorts. I've had a lot of odd things happened
to me, even at a young age that seemed hard
to explain at the time, And now that I'm older,
I can see that it was always kind of like,
as I like to say, spirit guiding me. I had
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a lot of people along the way they kind of
led me and then disappeared you know, strange, strange people
would come into my life, and the strange things would
happen to me, even when I was a young, young youngster.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Really, what was the strangest thing that happened to you
as youngster?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Yeah, I don't know if I talked about this when
I was on your show last.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It was a while ago, raw, but I was like,
I think eleven or twelve.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I think it's twelve years old, and all of the
kids in the neighborhood were fascinated with this yellow school
bus and it wasn't a school bus, and it was
an old, beat up thing. And they on the side
that said pickers wanted well they had berry fields and
they wanted kids to come and pick berries. Well, I
had no real interest in picking berries. But what I
heard was there was a nice river we could go and.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know, sit along and.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Dip in and swim during lunch hour. Well I thought
lunch hour was as soon as I got there, and
it extended throughout the day. And as far as the berries,
I was all for picking the berries.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I just ate them all. I think I turned in
one box.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
So anyway, I'd been there a little while and I
got very, very sick, and someone said, oh, you swam
too much and ate too many berries. And so I
went and talked to the man who ran the bus
and said, you've got to take me home. I have
a terrible pain in my stomach like I've never felt before.
I think it's serious now, you know, I don't really
get I'm one that keeps his pain to himself, so
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you know. But he didn't know that, and he said, oh,
you wait, kid, we all go home at the same time.
So then I talked to the man who was owned
the very field, mister Behringer, and he said, you know,
you wait till the bus leaves and we'll take you home.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Don't worry, just sit down. You don't have to work anymore.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Well, I felt really sick, and I told my friend, said,
I noticed that the railroad track ran across when he
came onto the berry field. Every day we would come
across and run all over this railroad track. And I said,
if I just followed these railroad tracks, it'll take me
to my home. They said, oh, no, no, no, no,
I said, no, it stops in front of my house. Well,
(06:17):
I started to walk, and I started to walk, and
I got halfway out of their vision. And then I
started to go around a bunch of overgrown bushes along
the track at a curve, and I could no longer
see them, and I took one big step and everything
(06:40):
got dark. And then the next thing I knew, I
was in front of my house and I stepped down
from the railroad track, which was very high up.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I went into the house and I flopped on my
mother's bed, and when she came to the room, I said,
you've got to take me to the doctor. She said, oh,
if you're just lie down, i'll get you some seven up.
I said, no, no, it's seven up. I'm really sick.
She said, well, just relax. So she waited until morning,
(07:10):
and she called our family doctor, and he was golfing,
of course, of course, and he said, well, take him
the way you've described it. It sounds like a pedicitis,
and you take him to the hospital and I'll be
there as soon as I finished the back nine.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'll never forget that.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
And when he got there, my appendix had already burst.
But of course I survived luckily, and I got to
the hospital none too soon. The odd thing about this story,
Rob is that the railroad tracks don't stop in front
of my house.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
They don't. No.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So the next year, I'm out in.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
The backyard and I, you know, everybody says, everybody says,
how did you get home? And how did it all happen?
You know, you got home in just in time? And
how did you find your way home? Because the railroad
you know, you know, how did how did? And I
would say, oh, I don't want to talk about it
because I couldn't explain it. It didn't make any sense
(08:13):
to me, so I just blank blanked it out. And frankly,
I think this is true of a lot of people
that have odd or paranormal activities happening to them, things
that they can't explain, you know, things that are.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Unknown to us.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And in this case, the next year, I looked out
and I had to admit that there were no railroad
tracks indeed that went in front of our house, nowhere
near our house. But a year later we moved north
of that city, and the railroad track did cross in
front of our house, just as I had seen. It's
(08:51):
a strange story, you know, and it's like so, you know,
I tried to explain what had happened to me, you know,
and and how this happened.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But it seemed to me.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That it was it was very mystical, you know. I
mean I had absolutely folded time and space because when
I got there, it was it was dark, but it
all happened like in a flash, like in a second,
and I was instantly home. And then how did I
Here's the thing. These railroad tracks they go all different ways.
(09:23):
People that notice railroads, they they don't follow, you know,
lines like like like highways or roadways. They don't go
to everybody's house.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They don't. It's not like a bus line.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
I mean they in our case, they went along the
river and along the bay, and we were halfway in
between the river and the bay. And so it's it's
really odd that I would think of it that way.
But I was so confident that I would be home,
that I was home.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
But when I got home it was much later in
the day, you know, it should have been like afternoon.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So I think I'm one.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Guy who's actually stepped out of time and space and
never gotten back those three hours that I lost.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know, you've you've led a fascinating career. You you're
and you know, you talk many subjects you know, time
and space, consciousness, and and it seems that one of
the topics that that you're you do a lot of
talking for is about dreams. And I've read somewhere that
(10:30):
you said, sometimes a dream is more than a dream.
What did you mean by that?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, you know, we have a way of looking at
dreams in our society today that they're just like memories
that were flashing through our head. They're like things that
are of concern to us. And this is true of
a lot of low level dreams. These are dreams of
a restless night where you're you're you're not totally asleep,
(11:00):
your analytical mind, your brain is certainly not fully asleep.
It's still grinding away at concerns of yesterday and worries
about tomorrow and things that you want to resolve today.
But even when you were wide awake and worried about it,
we're not able to do so you continue grinding away
these problems. And so we have these dreams where we're
(11:24):
reliving experiences or we're going through a different scenarios. Very
often we play an odd role there where we're all
the people. We don't really see the people, and these
are like black and white, sketchy, sketchy, kind of bizarre,
surreal experiences. These are not real dreams. I mean, they
are real dreams, but they're not lucid, vivid, meaningful, impactful dreams.
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So what I'm talking about when a dream is more
than a dream is when a dream is in color,
it's lucid, it's vivid, it has great personal meaning to you.
It's maybe prophetic, It analyzes, it solves a problem. It
maybe takes you somewhere beyond time and space where you're
(12:14):
an active participant and fully conscious. This is the most
important thing. You're fully conscious of being there. So I
always encourage people that when they have a dream like this,
you know, try to find yourself and recognize that you're
there in that dream and own the dream. You know,
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typically you say, well, look at your hands, Well, you
don't physically have hands. You'll have maybe like an astral
kind of outline of something like a physical body that's
like an etheric ephemeral body, and it will be a
presence where you are are there in a subtle energy body,
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or actually a full armor of many subtle energy bodies,
probably everything but your physical body. While your physical body
is very rested and safe and peaceful and shut down,
lying in your bed or on your sofa. And this
can happen also in a day dream. It could actually
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happen when you're walking down the street. If you're not careful,
you know, you could have elucid dream practically any time,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And the interesting thing.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
About what a dream is more than a dream is
you go back thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
All right, let's talk about the ancients, because the pad
a big part in ancient civilizations and rituals. Excellanation. I
guess this hour is von Broschler and Don and I
will be back on the other side of this break
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Don't go away, ah, This is Michael Bolton, wishing you
all the very best this holiday season and in the
coming Nie.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Everyday will be just like Pizma.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I have just closed my eyes again.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Climbs aboard the dream, weave the game.
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Job and take away my resolved today.
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And leave tomorrow be Hurda.
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Welcome back everyone, This is the excellent I am Rob
McConnell coming to here from our broadcast center and studios
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Speaker 3 (15:53):
Classic twelve twenty dot. CA le Broshley. Sorry, special guest
and von. Before we went to the break, we were
just getting into the ancients and the significance of dreams
in their you know, their society as well as in
their everyday life. And I was wondering if you could
take us back in history and give us an idea
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of how important dreams were to the ancients.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Oh, very important. For three thousand years, they've been been
trusted by kings and visionary leaders in their most critical situations.
And so we're just now beginning to study them as
you know, as psychologists and medical science look at the.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
At these dreams.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
But the dreams have been treated throughout time is divine revelation,
prophecy windows to the soul.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Really, so it goes back.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Like three thousand years, like I say, and it goes
back to the ancient city of sumer the area that
produced the Mesopotamia, Syria, Babylonia, all those cultures, Pikadia, and
they very much in dreams. Kings in Mesopotamia, for instance,
they derived their guidance from from from their dreams and
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they believed in them. The Sumerian king Gudea, he rebuilt
a temple like two thousand BC or so for just
from instructions that he received in a dream. And from
this period we also have Gilgemesh, the epic of Gilgamesh
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in the Akkadian Epic, and Gilgemesh he described travels to
other realms and his personal meetings with deities. And then
we have the Assyrian king who built a temple to
the god of dreams, and that was around eight point
fifty BC. The Assyrians Babylonians that likewise they catalog their
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dreams as prophecy and direction. So then following that, you know,
it's a direct line from from the Chaldean to the Egyptians.
In early like two thousand BC, the Egyptians were recording
their dreams on papyrus leaves, writing them down, and we
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think that dream dictionaries and dream journals are are kind
of avant garde while they were doing it two thousand BC.
And they believe that their dreams they served as oracles,
as messages from from the gods. And this is the
recurring theme that dreams could be prophetic or messages from
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a higher source.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, so why do we dream? Bond?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Why do we dream? Why do I think we're trying to.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I think it is our inner soul, our spirit, or
as I prefer to say, our spirit is coming out
and it's it's exploring its identity. And it does this
in a number of ways. It leaves the body, It
travels beyond top in space in a dream or otherwise
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to to to further understand it itself and who it
is and its role. Uh it it? I think our
spirit is trying to understand it's connection to higher source
of consciousness. I think this is you when people talk
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about higher consciousness. You know, I don't think that our
inner consciousness is particularly high unless it's aligned with higher
universal cosmic consciousness. But that's that's I think that's what
we do. I think I think our inner spirit longs
to be free, It longs to get outside of us,
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and and and what what prevents us from happening when
dreams are less than a dream, is that your your
your your physical brain will act as a as a
gatekeeper and saying oh no, no, nothing, nothing gets by me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, I'm in total charge here. You know.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
We don't allow anybody to leave, We don't allow anybody
to come in. There's no traveling around, none of this,
None of this is going to happen. There's gonna be
no spirit slipping in and slipping out. There's gonna be
no exotic travel and discovery. We're gonna play it safe, mister,
play it real safe. And this is exactly what your
physical brain is supposed to do in regard to safeguard
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your physical body. It's in charge of your physical safety
and your well being, but it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Needs to step aside.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
So like in the Hindu tradition, they talked about the
the in meditation for consciousness to come forth and to
have these great moments of spirit discovery, that the mind
must be the slayer of the mind. And I think
that's kind of a I'm not saying it's a miss
interpretation of what was said, but it's an example of
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how words don't really convey what's happening. There has to
be an inner harmony where your physical brain and body
allows itself to kind of, you know, go to a
rest mode so that your spirit can go out and explore.
This idea of dream travel and discovery and lucid dreaming
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is important dream work and it should be undertaken by everybody.
It should be planned out as the Egyptians and the
Greeks did with dream temples. I mean they had dream temples.
They had oracles, you know, they Hadmorpheus, the god of dreams.
You know, they had Hippocrates leading the charge, Aristotle saying
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that dreams could predict diagnose, Cicero in early Rome saying
that dreams are produced by human conscious thought and result
and visions of an insightful nature and around the world,
you know, the Tibetans, the early China that half of
the soul is free from the body during sleep to
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visit a dream realm. And now we'd call this perhaps
a dream scape, right, But I would say, I would
say that in your dream, your spirit could take you
anywhere anywhere on this earth or beyond.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, what do we actually learn from our dreams and
will dreams have lessons that we should learn how to
pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah. Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
The thing about a dream work is that you need
to be very observant. You're not going to be a
participant in the sense that you're going to have meaningful discussion.
You you'll have and if you have any discussion in
a lucid dream, it's likely to be telepathic, not verbal.
If it's verbal, it's like it's there are loud thoughts
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in your head that resonate, but they're not not going
to be auditory. See, you don't have hands, you don't
have feet, you don't have a tongue, you know, for
all of this, and the five physical senses are gone
and you're you're out there with a new array of
conscious awareness. Yes, yeah, and you're you're aware. Your perceptive
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awareness is what's going to take you forward. And it's
like being as I say, people are fascinated with remote viewing,
this is exactly what we're talking about. It's like being
a fly on the wall. And remember a fly as
like one hundred eyes, right, A fly sees all and
knows all, and it's very aware of everything. So in short,
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I think that a lucid dream or dream work is
an opportunity to to observe and witness and take it
all in. This is what the shamans would do, right,
I mean in dream walking, you know, and spirit walking
you know, the shaman would would would go into this
deep trance which is much like lucid dreaming or meditation,
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and anyway, the shaman would leave and go beyond normal
time and space. You can go back and talk to
the ancestors or listen to the ancestors, actually go go
or go forward in time to see what future holds
for his people, and would teach these skills to people
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as a vision quest.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
But I've often wondered, Vaughan, if this is what a
nashaman is doing a vision quest going back in time
or forward in time? If this is if this is
not something that he is creating in his own subconscious.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, and then you have to wonder what's the difference,
you know, and you could you could lose sleep tonight
thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But yeah, I guess I guess what I'm trying to
say is like, how do we know that he is
really actually going back in time or going forward in time,
and that it's just not based on his belief, his desires,
and it has nothing to do with time, space, and
and anything else except what he is creating in his
(25:10):
own mind.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Well, except that he would seem to go back and
and and and recognize ancestors and listen to them speaking.
And he would, he would, they would be known to him.
But but but I would, I would throw this in too.
I mean, your argument is is a good one, Rob,
that that we do create our own reality and and
(25:33):
and our our vision of the past, my past, your
past realists. They seem to us we're trying to recreate it,
not fully recognizing what it is, because I mean, remember,
(25:54):
you know, a priori knowledge, and how few of us
have ever ever come into into the world with that?
Uh yeah, and and and and and I'm said, that
is uh that we don't know how I all have
this recollection, uh that some that some seem to do,
you know, with unerring detailed accounts of everything, to where
(26:16):
they could like recite a language or or or remember
people or or or or lines of a poem, or
or how to play the piano, having never been taught
in this lifetime. But you know, I think that I
think that we're we're trying to we're trying to get
back to a memory. And so we're we're going in
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our consciousness and and our inner consciousness.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It has a memory too.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
It has a memory of of not only what's transpired
during this this physical life of ours, but presumably of
an earlier life, of a past and and and presumably
it has some information beyond us, you know, as we
tend to think of spirit as having guiding us with
insight that that is not known to us otherwise. So
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if if this were true, then it would have to
have a lot of memory bank, huge memory bank, and
and and and it and it probably doesn't come as
it goes buffeted through this world and being born in
the drama of this life.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But isn't that what people total? But isn't that what
people are saying that the Akashak records are for?
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Oh yeah, well that the memory that the a Kajak
records are a history of everything?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
See, so I mean the Kashak records exist on one
on one level, you know, on an astral level, one
of the astral levels, and and they are a record
of well histories, yeah, but moreover there are they're a
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record of like I would call them more like tendencies
or likelihoods or probabilities.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Faw instead, Bye, We've had to take our break. Exponation.
Von Braschlar is my special guest at this hour. We're
talking about dreams, time travel, and much more. If you'd
like to find out more information about Von Broschlar, he
has a Facebook page. And we'll be back on the
other side of this very short break as the X
Zone continues. With heris Trili. Rob McConnell from our broadcast
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centers and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario on your hometown radio,
Classic twelve twenty, streaming around the world on Classic twelve
twenty dot c A Don't go Away is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm Rob McConnell and welcome to the X Zone, a
place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality. Today
on the X Zone, what is the Star of Bethel?
Who would ever have thought that the Rosetta stone, the
identity of the Star of Bethlehem, would have been found
on an ancient Roman coin that was purchased in the
spring of nineteen ninety one by astronomer and coin collector
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doctor Michael Mulnar. Upon examining his newly acquired coin, doctor
Mulner noticed that the inscription of the coin was actually
telling an astrological story about the Star of Bethlehem. Using
his facilities at Ruter's University and the philosophy of astrology,
doctor Mulner was able to identify the Star of Bethlehem
as a rare planetary alignment of the planet Jupiter, being
in the House of Areas on April seventeenth, six b C,
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the birth date of Jesus Christ. These findings were supported
by additional findings as well.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
If you could read my love what Timm Thoms could
till Juice Black.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Moving out of ghost film moviation.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Well and a cast so done are a far tres
John with Jane upon my feet.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You know that ghost is me.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And I will never be said for as long as
I'm a ghost.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That you can't see.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Welcome back to the excellent everyone. We're coming to you
from our broadcast entering studio seeing Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty, streaming worldwide at
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Von Broschler is our special
guest this hour and Von do in your opinion, do
those who have passed come to us in dreams.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yes, I think they do, but I think there's a
there's a window for most of them. It's like the
first three days after they're passing. And many people will
will there's a lot of accounts of people. I've interviewed
people for another book, how this will happen so close
to the death of the loved one, and they'll come
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and they'll they'll see something revealing and it'll be like
a goodbye. Really, And I think it's important to not
try to access, access or contact.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
The dead as they have to move.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Forward in their own existence, if you believe that there's
life after this life.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And as I do.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
And then but if they come to you, you see,
that's a whole other matter. If they come to you
and they want to have a moment with you for
whatever reason, maybe just to sit with you and for
a moment, maybe say something.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I think it's wonderful, just wonderful.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Have you yourself had experiences in the paranormal? For example,
how you seen ghosts?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You have?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Let's hear could you sing so?
Speaker 8 (32:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I guess my biggest one has to do with the
woman that was my roommate and she ended up in
hospice and died young. But there's a happy ending that's
I'll get to. And it starts years before when I
was working at the Theosophical Headquarters of in in Wheaton, Illinois,
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National head Quarters. And I hadn't been there very long,
and I'd taken over in the publishing house from a
man that had kind of started the publishing division. And
I started getting these calls the first summer I was there,
and they and this is before cell phones, that's important
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to know. And in the the rotary phone rings on
my desk and I pick it up, and clear as
could be, I hear a man who sounds very old
and very very very much like an elderly man from
India and East Indian and he is asking me if
I would like to join him on a lightning tour
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of India in the fall. And I said in the fall,
And he said, yes, autumn is the best time, sir,
He said, I would do this in late August or
early September. He said, as soon as I get my
group together. I do this every year and it is
very profound. It would it would change your life. I
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would show you things, it would change your life. And
I said, well, sir, I'm very flattered, you know, And
why did you ask me? And he just like talks
over me, like doesn't really respond to me. He says, like,
you must come with me, sir. He said, I have
selected you to come on this tour of India with me,
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this this fall my Lightning my Lightning Rod tour of India.
And he said, we'll think about it. I said, well,
I'm very busy. I just started this job and we're
doing so many fun things here, and we'd started a
radio series and a new magazine and all all kinds
of fun things. And I said, I just can't do it.
I can't get back up and go and he and
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he kept, you know, not hearing that. He says, you
must come with me. I will call you again, sir,
and the line goes dead. Now, okay, So I get
another call like this, like I don't know, a few
days later, maybe a week, and he says basically the
same thing, and I'm saying, like, I can't go with you.
I'm very sorry. I don't know why you called. You
must have been trying to reach mister Patterson, who had
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this job for many decades before me, and and and
I don't know why you called me. And he said, no, no, no,
he said you must come with me on my lightning
tour of India. And he goes on to explain how
important it is, and he and linoes dead. His voice
is very clear, and I can understand him very well,
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even though he sounds very old and has a very
thick accent, you know. And I'm thinking, like, oh, it's
somebody in their society, you know, and maybe because it's
an international group, somebody in India, you know. And I
ask around, is there anybody like that? So I go
to the other buildings that were in the publication building,
and the gal that does the switchboard, I said, did
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you switch a guy over here?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I had a.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Thick Indian accent, sounded very very old. It happened like
just minutes ago, and then like a week ago. No, no, no, no,
he must have dialed you directly, Von, I'd remember anything
like that. And I started asking different people, you know,
and in both buildings, you know, I thought I was
being played, you know, it was a set up, a.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Joke.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
No, they all looked at me like I was crazy
when I started asking these questions. So I get a
third call and it's the man again. And he says,
if you can't come with me on my lightning a
rod tour of India, I will give you one other
thing that will change your life forever, sir. I will
teach you how to move in the light. I said,
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move in the light. He said, if you learned to
meditate in the early morning light, when the sun first rises,
beside running water, he said, you can.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You can. You can be in the light.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
And you can move in the light. You can become
one with the light. And I said, were you talking
about meditation right? And it's like I'm thinking, like I
have a big blanket and we have a pond in
the back, with a you know, arated pond, and I'm thinking,
how I can do this. He doesn't seem to recognize
anything I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And he just talks over me.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
He says, you must learn to meditate in the early
light and the early morning light, be side running water,
and this will change your life forever, sir, he said,
believe me. And he never goes again. And I'm thinking,
oh my gosh, oh my gosh. So I get I
get out this blanket, this yellow blanket, somebody give me
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and I laid it out next to the pond in
the back of our grounds there and beside the water end.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's incredible.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
It's incredible to do this, to meditate an early morning light.
It profound experience meditating like that. And I'm thinking like,
oh my gosh, who is this guy? So I get
to thinking, like we have a We're on the third floor,
and on the first floor is the bookstore called Quest Books.
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And I go down there. I talk to the woman
who's the manager, and he said, where are the good
books on meditation? She said, what do you mean, von
the good books on meditation? I said, I mean the
ones written by the men in India, the masters, the
really good stuff, not you know, not the new gurus,
the new stuff. Where are where are where are the
legitimate teachers? She said, Oh, down that row. So I
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walked down that row and it's like a dead end,
you know, It's like and I and there's a fate
a book face out and I picked it up and
I flipped it over and I started reading the back
and it talked about this old man from India that
would lead people on a lightning rod tour of India
every year in the autumn months. And he would do
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this every year for many, many years. It was a tradition.
And they said he was perhaps best known by as
many students through the years as teaching a technique of
meditating in the morning light beside water, fascinating. And then
it said the year he was born, and it listed
the year he had died.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
It was two years before he called me.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Talk about geting a call from the other side.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
So so I so so I actually, you know, played
with that a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
And later on I moved.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
To Minnesota, and and I had her roommate who had
had a scare with brain cancer. But she she'd recovered,
and she was she'd been written up in books with
as an amazing recovery example.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
She said it was.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Cousin's cat sat on her, sat on her and purred,
but she was she was given up as dead. And
then she she made this spontaneous recovery, and you know,
and she went on the radio and everything for a while.
And so she came to live with me, and then
she got very, very sick. We held a meeting at
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her house and tried to encourage her to go to
an intervention. I guess you call it encouraged her to
go in for testing. And yes, yes it had. It
had come back, and and and and the and the
cancer had spread throughout all her rain. The operator they
couldn't get it, and she had to go into hospice.
So I taught her when she was in hospice how
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to meditate in the early morning light beside water.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
How do I do that?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
There was a window that came through the hospice and
it it would if I could move the bed a
little to the right and a little bit forward, the
light would shine on her from the window. And then
I had this little thing I put next on the
desk next to her bed that created water, run running water.
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And we did that and and and we we.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
We practiced this.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
We we practice actually leaving our bodies together in a
in a in a in a meditation and and and
going through different you know levels, I mean different different
subtle energy levels. And and it was it was really incredible.
I mean, we we we so many of us think
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our world is this physical world. Beyond the physical plane,
there are other planes of existence. There's the metal plane,
you know, the astral plane. There are many many planes
of existence. And we explored all of those and I
took her up pretty far, up to a spiritual level,
and the color started getting very blue, and everything changed.
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And I came back and at that time she no
longer had the ability to speak, but she would do
these exercises with me. And I said, dab, I said,
I said, I think you could go on your own. Now.
I can't take you where you need to go next,
but I think you can do it yourself, don't you.
And she squeezed my hand really tight, and she looked
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me right square in the eyes and said the first
word she'd said in weeks.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
She said yes.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Next morning she died, and when and I went home
after she died. There she was playing with her cat.
Now I thought, huh, okay, so and she went upstairs
and then there was music in the room.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Okay, hold on here, hold on here. She was dead. Yeah,
but she was at your house and she walked upstairs
to the Okay, I'm just you.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
She I remember. She was playing with her cat.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
She claimed it had been so helpful and reviving her
the first time. And an old and old wizard. She's
playing with him with a pink ribbon. And I'd never
seen this pink ribbon before. But after she finished playing,
she dropped the ribbon and curled, curled, curled, as ribbons
will do, and fell in this wicker basket. And I
went and I after she just she went up the stairs.
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I went to the basket and found the pink ribbon.
I said, I've never seen this pink ribbon before.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Stan By Vaughn, We're going to have to take a
bit of a cliffhanger. Hare ex o ation Von Brochlar's
our guest. His Facebook page is I just had it
here a second ago. Facebook dot Com forward slash the Brashlar,
and we'll come back talking about more of this fascinating information.
Consciousness to the light as we continue hearing the X
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Zone from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
That's good, just like a old time.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
I'm dreamy.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
This is Nick Pope here from Nick Pope dot Net.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'd like to wish Rob McColl everyone at the X.
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Zone Radio show and all your listeners are very happy Christmas,
and I wish you every happiness in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Oh, it's a long road back, I prom me you.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
It's amazing how you can speak grand to my.
Speaker 7 (44:06):
We have that same word.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You can light up the dog.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Trys on me.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I can explain.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Why I came when you don't say a thing.
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The sun landsman On Braschlar's my special guest of this hour.
X O Nation, this Facebook pages, Facebook dot com, forward
slash v Brashlar, and we're coming to you right here
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studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, on your hometown Classic twelve
twenty and streamed around the world on Classic twelve twenty dot.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
All right, that story that you told us before we
went to the break, Vaughn was it was hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, it is a little hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Now I'm not you know, I'd like to I'd like
to preface this by saying, it's not that I don't
believe it.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Well, yeah, there are a lot of people. There were
a lot of moving parts in this. And they she
had a group of people we tried very very hard
to do hospice at home and and and these were
the people who actually were part of the intervention that
got her into the hospital for the testing. Now, how
how how it came back that at the age of
thirty three, she was going to die after going through
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an eight year recovery and having had cancer for seven years.
You know, it's like, I can't figure this out, you know,
and and and and but but the way she died
was I honestly felt that having learned to do this
kind of kind of uh meditation with her uh which
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was kind of directed by the man who gave me
these mysterious phone calls years earlier, had a part in
her ability to walk freely out of that place. And
and I and I kept telling the woman who was
in charge of the hospice was run by a Catholic order,
and and and and and and Sister Luke was the
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head nurse, and they had none And I told Sister Luke,
I said, Deb's going to walk out of here, She said, Vaughan.
Nobody walks out of here. Nobody, I said, Deb will.
And and I honestly think I honestly think she did.
I think I think that that that she's a free person.
And my takeaway from this is that everybody needs to
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learn uh conscious living and conscious dying, because if if
your if, if your consciousness is really at a at
a high level in touch with universal consciousness. If you're
really highly conscious when you die, then you'll die a
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conscious death and it won't be a sudden scary thing,
you know, like we read in the Tibetan Book of
the Dead, of the horrors that people go through because
they're not ready to die.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Well, that's how we get ghosts.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
I mean, I was a ghost hunter for a while,
and it's a terrible thing to encounter people who are
so scared, are so confused, are so holding on to
life when they die that they can't move forward, but
to be ready to actually get up and walk out, because,
like I told it again and again, the fact that
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you don't have the ability to stand on your feet
and walk out of here does not mean that you
can't walk out of here. And I honestly think, I
honestly think that she could because when she dropped that
pink ribbon in the basket and went upstairs, and I
heard the music coming out of the room, and I
got to thinking, You're like, should I go in there
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and see her? So I went in there and the
room was empty. Because what I'd forgotten was that all
of our things had been removed by her parents because
they knew she was going to die. There was no stereo,
there was no bed, there was nothing there. Yet I
heard the music, and the music stopped when I turned
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the doorknob and walked inside. Now, I went out in
the hallway and there was a little closet where she,
I don't know, she kept towels there. And I got
to thinking, you know, like gosh, did they.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Get it all? You know? And I went on in
the hallway.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
They did get all the towels and everything. But there
was a box of pink ribbons that she had been
working on before she went in the hospice, had been
working on to make as Christmas presents for people.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Oh, I had never.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Seen that before.
Speaker 6 (48:57):
There was a secret thing, a secret basket.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Nobody knew that.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
And and and so I think it was It was
an eye opener for me, you know. And now I
think about life and I think about death, and I
think that death is and what people think it is.
And I think that the life isn't what people think
it is. It's like we're not we're not fully awake people,
you know, we're sleep walking through life, and when we die,
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we're confused.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, I think it.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
You know, if if if we do, if we do
proper dream work, if we learn to meditate, if we
tune our consciousness and become more aware of everything around
us and including why we're here and what we should
be doing in our life, then I think I think
things are gonna things are going to work out better
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for us. I think, for one thing, we're going to
die with the purpose, and that purpose will be to
continue our evolution as as souls.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Because I think that it's just.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
A continual merry go round of people coming here, riding
around the merry ground and having a wonderful time riding
the wooden horse that's on that carousel, and the music stops.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
And we call that the end. The end. There is
no end.
Speaker 6 (50:19):
The music starts again, and you go to another horse
and you continue going around the carousel.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So is this all? Is this all part of reincarnation?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Reincarnation?
Speaker 6 (50:27):
Absolutely, it's a never ending cycle. It'll never ever end never.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
So if it never ends, one, where did it start?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
I think it started with consciousness. Actually, I think there
are two things that bring life into into motion, and
that is consciousness and light. And I think, you know,
in the Hindu philosophy. They call that shakti and shiva.
And when consciousness and like come together. There when when
conscious when light reaches consciousness, that is reality.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
That is our reality.
Speaker 6 (51:06):
And that's why we're here, I mean, are we're here
to to to allow our consciousness to experience this life
in different manifestations, in different scenarios, so that it has
some greater meaning to the universal flow, the continuum of life,
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if you will, that is universal consciousness.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
So am I to understand that each and every person
who comes to this plane, at this plane is supposed
to learn something, gather information that is fed to the universe,
the universe.
Speaker 6 (51:43):
That's what I think, Rob, I mean just one guy's opinion.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
But to me, this is a big it's a big
Easter egg hunt.
Speaker 6 (51:51):
I mean, it's like everybody is is is on a
discovery mission in this life to find out things. It's
all about discovery. Discovery is everything. And ask me what
we're supposed to discover. I think it's different for every.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
One of us.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
But if all this information is going back to the universe,
why do we need to keep on reliving it or
experiencing new scenarios When all this information that has been
already submitted back to the universe by millions upon millions
upon millions of Yeah, well, but see, there is no end.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know.
Speaker 6 (52:32):
That's like we tend to think in terms that are
linear beginning, a middle, and it's ongoing. It continues to
unfold and evolve, it'll and it'll continue to evolve forever
and ever.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
You know, there's there's no beginning, there's no end.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
But it seems at times that we are here as
as puppets, as collectors for unseen masters.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
So back to the Acashak records. I know that a
lot of people want to think of the Akashak Records.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Is the place where you can go.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
I always think of like the movie roller Ball, you know,
and Jonathan goes and he wants to look in the
hall of records and find out.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
What's going on, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (53:17):
And you know, it's like we'd all like to just
go and here's my library card, now tell me what's
going on. But you know, it's not that easy, you know,
because there are so many variables in how things unfold.
I mean, it's true, you know, as Einstein suggested, that
the past, present, and future are all happening simultaneous simultaneously.
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It is highly likely that they're all progressing and that
yesterday has not ended and tomorrow is already hear, but
we're only experiencing this moment where we're standing right now,
and we only experience what we see in front of us.
That's our limitation, you know. So so we have to
actually live out every every every scenario. There are so
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many variables, and there's so many ripples in in in
everybody's life that will that will impact other lives. So
you can't say that everything is prescripted. It's impossible to
prescript anything. So they're only there are only energy tendencies.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
You know. It's like, at this moment in time, it
looks like it's going to happen this way. You know.
Speaker 6 (54:33):
I always think of people that they they they are
so slavishly uh dependent on following their numeral numerology charts
or their astrology charts, you know. But but there are
so many things that will will affect these things, you know,
And you can you can do the tarot cards and
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this shows you how things seem to be going right now,
but it could all change tomorrow. It could change by
what you do and what your neighbor does.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, but I've found that a lot of the tarot
card readings, the tea leave readings, the astrology, the numerology
is based on the on the way that the reader
is interpreting the information. You get two people with the
same spread of tarot cards or the same numerological sequence,
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and you're going to get different answers.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Reader bias. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, reader bias.
Speaker 6 (55:31):
Well, that happens with everything, any any kind of divination,
like gazing. You and I could look at the sky
and do skygazing. We see different things. Sure perception, which
is wrong?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I don't know, Vron.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
We've got about a minute before I have to say
so long to you. What is your final final words
of wisdom to the listening audience of the Explanation tonight
on Classic twelve twenty.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Hey, gang, keep up the keep up the journey. The
journey is everything.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
We're all We're all on a journey to Oz and
it's it might seem like a dream at the end
when you wake up and Annie m shakes you and says, honey,
it was only a dream.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
But we're all going to get to OZ.
Speaker 6 (56:16):
You know, I think that every one of us is
on a journey and I think it's really important that
we prepare for the journey. You pack just a little
bit more than the fool who goes off on the
journey with that knapsack and the tarot card, and and
and and and really and really embrace the journey. You know,
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don't be afraid of the obstacles that are out there,
the supernatural allies and enemies, and the gatekeepers that make
your hero's journey difficult.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Your journey is a journey of of of of a hero.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Vaughan, thank you so much for joining us. I look
forward to the next time you meet us back here
in the X zone. Until then, take care of yourself
and to you and yours, the very best.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Of the season. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
Good night, Vaughn. Explanation. I guess this hour has been
von Braschler on Facebook dot com forward slash v Braschlar.
He's got a number of books. Very interesting man. I
call him a philosopher, philosopher of the unknown. I'll be
back tomorrow night at let me see eleven o'clock Eastern.
As once again we continue our quest into the searching
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for answers demanding of truth in the world of parapsychology
and paranormal So until then, my friends, I am Rob McConnell.
Keep your eyes to the sky and your heart to
the light, and keep your radio's tuned to your town
radio Classic twelve twenty
Ah Henry.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the X Zone, a place where fact is
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And good evening everyone. This is the Xhone. I am
Rob McConnell and we're coming to you from our broadcast
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hopefully we'll be able to solve a few problems that
you might have. My guess this hour Exponation is von Broschler.
He is an author of several books on consciousness expansion
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and has published books on everything from time travel to
lucid dreams, thought power, out of body travel, ghosts, and
energy healing. He is a former member of the Omega
Institute for Holistic Studies in Rhinebeck, New York, and has
led workshops throughout the United States and the United Kingdom.
He is a former award winning journalist. Currently, Vaughn lives
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on a small rustic island in the San Juan Islands,
just off the coast of Washington State near Vancouver, BC.
Joining me now is von Broshlar and Vaughn. Welcome back
to the excellent nice having you with us.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Thank you, Rob.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
It's so kind if you get to have me back.
I've been on the show, but a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, And as it seems that more and more people
are interested in the topics that you talk about, you know, dreams,
past lives, time, traveling, consciousness than ever before. More and
more people are asking these serious questions and to what
do you attribute that to?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Von Well, I think that these are the big these
these are the gateway to the important questions Who am I?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Why am I here? What am I.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Supposed to be doing in my life? What is it
I'm supposed to remember? And how do I get on
with doing what I'm supposed to do here? I think
these are the big questions and all of these are
like salad dressing to addressing those questions. Now, I didn't
pick any of these questions, any of these topics that
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I'm write about. They just seem to come to me
as they come to everybody else, that these are the
topics that we need to focus on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Faun.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
What started you on your quest into all the topics
that you are interested in? What happened in your life?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I thought I had a normal childhood, but I guess
I didn't. I came back from the first grade and
the kid across the street and said, what do you
mean when you stood up and everybody was supposed to
say where they were from originally, and you cited a
planet that I've never heard of, And I said, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It just came to me.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I guess I've always been kind of a little out
of sorts. I've had a lot of odd things happened
to me, even at a young age that seemed hard
to explain at the time, And now that I'm older,
I can see that it was always kind of like,
as I like to say, spirit guiding me. I had
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a lot of people along the way they kind of
led me and then disappeared you know, strange, strange people
would come into my life, and the strange things would
happen to me, even when I was a young, young youngster.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Really, what was the strangest thing that happened to you
as youngster?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Yeah, I don't know if I talked about this when
I was on your show last.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It was a while ago, raw, but I was like,
I think eleven or twelve.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I think it's twelve years old, and all of the
kids in the neighborhood were fascinated with this yellow school
bus and it wasn't a school bus, and it was
an old, beat up thing. And they on the side
that said pickers wanted well they had berry fields and
they wanted kids to come and pick berries. Well, I
had no real interest in picking berries. But what I
heard was there was a nice river we could go and.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know, sit along and.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Dip in and swim during lunch hour. Well I thought
lunch hour was as soon as I got there, and
it extended throughout the day. And as far as the berries,
I was all for picking the berries.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I just ate them all. I think I turned in
one box.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
So anyway, I'd been there a little while and I
got very, very sick, and someone said, oh, you swam
too much and ate too many berries. And so I
went and talked to the man who ran the bus
and said, you've got to take me home. I have
a terrible pain in my stomach like I've never felt before.
I think it's serious now, you know, I don't really
get I'm one that keeps his pain to himself, so
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you know. But he didn't know that, and he said, oh,
you wait, kid, we all go home at the same time.
So then I talked to the man who was owned
the very field, mister Behringer, and he said, you know,
you wait till the bus leaves and we'll take you home.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Don't worry, just sit down. You don't have to work anymore.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Well, I felt really sick, and I told my friend, said,
I noticed that the railroad track ran across when he
came onto the berry field. Every day we would come
across and run all over this railroad track. And I said,
if I just followed these railroad tracks, it'll take me
to my home. They said, oh, no, no, no, no,
I said, no, it stops in front of my house. Well,
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I started to walk, and I started to walk, and
I got halfway out of their vision. And then I
started to go around a bunch of overgrown bushes along
the track at a curve, and I could no longer
see them, and I took one big step and everything
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got dark. And then the next thing I knew, I
was in front of my house and I stepped down
from the railroad track, which was very high up.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I went into the house and I flopped on my
mother's bed, and when she came to the room, I said,
you've got to take me to the doctor. She said, oh,
if you're just lie down, i'll get you some seven up.
I said, no, no, it's seven up. I'm really sick.
She said, well, just relax. So she waited until morning,
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and she called our family doctor, and he was golfing,
of course, of course, and he said, well, take him
the way you've described it. It sounds like a pedicitis,
and you take him to the hospital and I'll be
there as soon as I finished the back nine.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'll never forget that.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
And when he got there, my appendix had already burst.
But of course I survived luckily, and I got to
the hospital none too soon. The odd thing about this story,
Rob is that the railroad tracks don't stop in front
of my house.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
They don't. No.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So the next year, I'm out in.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
The backyard and I, you know, everybody says, everybody says,
how did you get home? And how did it all happen?
You know, you got home in just in time? And
how did you find your way home? Because the railroad
you know, you know, how did how did? And I
would say, oh, I don't want to talk about it
because I couldn't explain it. It didn't make any sense
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to me, so I just blank blanked it out. And frankly,
I think this is true of a lot of people
that have odd or paranormal activities happening to them, things
that they can't explain, you know, things that are.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Unknown to us.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And in this case, the next year, I looked out
and I had to admit that there were no railroad
tracks indeed that went in front of our house, nowhere
near our house. But a year later we moved north
of that city, and the railroad track did cross in
front of our house, just as I had seen. It's
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a strange story, you know, and it's like so, you know,
I tried to explain what had happened to me, you know,
and and how this happened.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But it seemed to me.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That it was it was very mystical, you know. I
mean I had absolutely folded time and space because when
I got there, it was it was dark, but it
all happened like in a flash, like in a second,
and I was instantly home. And then how did I
Here's the thing. These railroad tracks they go all different ways.
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People that notice railroads, they they don't follow, you know,
lines like like like highways or roadways. They don't go
to everybody's house.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They don't. It's not like a bus line.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
I mean they in our case, they went along the
river and along the bay, and we were halfway in
between the river and the bay. And so it's it's
really odd that I would think of it that way.
But I was so confident that I would be home,
that I was home.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
But when I got home it was much later in
the day, you know, it should have been like afternoon.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So I think I'm one.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Guy who's actually stepped out of time and space and
never gotten back those three hours that I lost.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know, you've you've led a fascinating career. You you're
and you know, you talk many subjects you know, time
and space, consciousness, and and it seems that one of
the topics that that you're you do a lot of
talking for is about dreams. And I've read somewhere that
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you said, sometimes a dream is more than a dream.
What did you mean by that?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, you know, we have a way of looking at
dreams in our society today that they're just like memories
that were flashing through our head. They're like things that
are of concern to us. And this is true of
a lot of low level dreams. These are dreams of
a restless night where you're you're you're not totally asleep,
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your analytical mind, your brain is certainly not fully asleep.
It's still grinding away at concerns of yesterday and worries
about tomorrow and things that you want to resolve today.
But even when you were wide awake and worried about it,
we're not able to do so you continue grinding away
these problems. And so we have these dreams where we're
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reliving experiences or we're going through a different scenarios. Very
often we play an odd role there where we're all
the people. We don't really see the people, and these
are like black and white, sketchy, sketchy, kind of bizarre,
surreal experiences. These are not real dreams. I mean, they
are real dreams, but they're not lucid, vivid, meaningful, impactful dreams.
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So what I'm talking about when a dream is more
than a dream is when a dream is in color,
it's lucid, it's vivid, it has great personal meaning to you.
It's maybe prophetic, It analyzes, it solves a problem. It
maybe takes you somewhere beyond time and space where you're
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an active participant and fully conscious. This is the most
important thing. You're fully conscious of being there. So I
always encourage people that when they have a dream like this,
you know, try to find yourself and recognize that you're
there in that dream and own the dream. You know,
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typically you say, well, look at your hands, Well, you
don't physically have hands. You'll have maybe like an astral
kind of outline of something like a physical body that's
like an etheric ephemeral body, and it will be a
presence where you are are there in a subtle energy body,
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or actually a full armor of many subtle energy bodies,
probably everything but your physical body. While your physical body
is very rested and safe and peaceful and shut down,
lying in your bed or on your sofa. And this
can happen also in a day dream. It could actually
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happen when you're walking down the street. If you're not careful,
you know, you could have elucid dream practically any time,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And the interesting thing.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
About what a dream is more than a dream is
you go back thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
All right, let's talk about the ancients, because the pad
a big part in ancient civilizations and rituals. Excellanation. I
guess this hour is von Broschler and Don and I
will be back on the other side of this break
as the xone continues right here from our broadcast center
and studios in St. Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, on your hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty streaming worldwide at www dot Classic
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all the very best this holiday season and in the
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Everyday will be just like Pizma.
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Climbs aboard the dream, weave the game.
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Speaker 8 (15:41):
Welcome back everyone, This is the excellent I am Rob
McConnell coming to here from our broadcast center and studios
in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, on your hometown radio Classic
twelve twenty streaming around the world at.
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Classic twelve twenty dot. CA le Broshley. Sorry, special guest
and von. Before we went to the break, we were
just getting into the ancients and the significance of dreams
in their you know, their society as well as in
their everyday life. And I was wondering if you could
take us back in history and give us an idea
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of how important dreams were to the ancients.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Oh, very important. For three thousand years, they've been been
trusted by kings and visionary leaders in their most critical situations.
And so we're just now beginning to study them as
you know, as psychologists and medical science look at the.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
At these dreams.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
But the dreams have been treated throughout time is divine revelation,
prophecy windows to the soul.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Really, so it goes back.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Like three thousand years, like I say, and it goes
back to the ancient city of sumer the area that
produced the Mesopotamia, Syria, Babylonia, all those cultures, Pikadia, and
they very much in dreams. Kings in Mesopotamia, for instance,
they derived their guidance from from from their dreams and
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they believed in them. The Sumerian king Gudea, he rebuilt
a temple like two thousand BC or so for just
from instructions that he received in a dream. And from
this period we also have Gilgemesh, the epic of Gilgamesh
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in the Akkadian Epic, and Gilgemesh he described travels to
other realms and his personal meetings with deities. And then
we have the Assyrian king who built a temple to
the god of dreams, and that was around eight point
fifty BC. The Assyrians Babylonians that likewise they catalog their
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dreams as prophecy and direction. So then following that, you know,
it's a direct line from from the Chaldean to the Egyptians.
In early like two thousand BC, the Egyptians were recording
their dreams on papyrus leaves, writing them down, and we
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think that dream dictionaries and dream journals are are kind
of avant garde while they were doing it two thousand BC.
And they believe that their dreams they served as oracles,
as messages from from the gods. And this is the
recurring theme that dreams could be prophetic or messages from
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a higher source.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, so why do we dream? Bond?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Why do we dream? Why do I think we're trying to.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I think it is our inner soul, our spirit, or
as I prefer to say, our spirit is coming out
and it's it's exploring its identity. And it does this
in a number of ways. It leaves the body, It
travels beyond top in space in a dream or otherwise
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to to to further understand it itself and who it
is and its role. Uh it it? I think our
spirit is trying to understand it's connection to higher source
of consciousness. I think this is you when people talk
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about higher consciousness. You know, I don't think that our
inner consciousness is particularly high unless it's aligned with higher
universal cosmic consciousness. But that's that's I think that's what
we do. I think I think our inner spirit longs
to be free, It longs to get outside of us,
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and and and what what prevents us from happening when
dreams are less than a dream, is that your your
your your physical brain will act as a as a
gatekeeper and saying oh no, no, nothing, nothing gets by me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, I'm in total charge here. You know.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
We don't allow anybody to leave, We don't allow anybody
to come in. There's no traveling around, none of this,
None of this is going to happen. There's gonna be
no spirit slipping in and slipping out. There's gonna be
no exotic travel and discovery. We're gonna play it safe, mister,
play it real safe. And this is exactly what your
physical brain is supposed to do in regard to safeguard
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your physical body. It's in charge of your physical safety
and your well being, but it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Needs to step aside.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
So like in the Hindu tradition, they talked about the
the in meditation for consciousness to come forth and to
have these great moments of spirit discovery, that the mind
must be the slayer of the mind. And I think
that's kind of a I'm not saying it's a miss
interpretation of what was said, but it's an example of
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how words don't really convey what's happening. There has to
be an inner harmony where your physical brain and body
allows itself to kind of, you know, go to a
rest mode so that your spirit can go out and explore.
This idea of dream travel and discovery and lucid dreaming
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is important dream work and it should be undertaken by everybody.
It should be planned out as the Egyptians and the
Greeks did with dream temples. I mean they had dream temples.
They had oracles, you know, they Hadmorpheus, the god of dreams.
You know, they had Hippocrates leading the charge, Aristotle saying
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that dreams could predict diagnose, Cicero in early Rome saying
that dreams are produced by human conscious thought and result
and visions of an insightful nature and around the world,
you know, the Tibetans, the early China that half of
the soul is free from the body during sleep to
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visit a dream realm. And now we'd call this perhaps
a dream scape, right, But I would say, I would
say that in your dream, your spirit could take you
anywhere anywhere on this earth or beyond.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, what do we actually learn from our dreams and
will dreams have lessons that we should learn how to
pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah. Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
The thing about a dream work is that you need
to be very observant. You're not going to be a
participant in the sense that you're going to have meaningful discussion.
You you'll have and if you have any discussion in
a lucid dream, it's likely to be telepathic, not verbal.
If it's verbal, it's like it's there are loud thoughts
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in your head that resonate, but they're not not going
to be auditory. See, you don't have hands, you don't
have feet, you don't have a tongue, you know, for
all of this, and the five physical senses are gone
and you're you're out there with a new array of
conscious awareness. Yes, yeah, and you're you're aware. Your perceptive
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awareness is what's going to take you forward. And it's
like being as I say, people are fascinated with remote viewing,
this is exactly what we're talking about. It's like being
a fly on the wall. And remember a fly as
like one hundred eyes, right, A fly sees all and
knows all, and it's very aware of everything. So in short,
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I think that a lucid dream or dream work is
an opportunity to to observe and witness and take it
all in. This is what the shamans would do, right,
I mean in dream walking, you know, and spirit walking
you know, the shaman would would would go into this
deep trance which is much like lucid dreaming or meditation,
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and anyway, the shaman would leave and go beyond normal
time and space. You can go back and talk to
the ancestors or listen to the ancestors, actually go go
or go forward in time to see what future holds
for his people, and would teach these skills to people
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as a vision quest.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
But I've often wondered, Vaughan, if this is what a
nashaman is doing a vision quest going back in time
or forward in time? If this is if this is
not something that he is creating in his own subconscious.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, and then you have to wonder what's the difference,
you know, and you could you could lose sleep tonight
thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But yeah, I guess I guess what I'm trying to
say is like, how do we know that he is
really actually going back in time or going forward in time,
and that it's just not based on his belief, his desires,
and it has nothing to do with time, space, and
and anything else except what he is creating in his
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own mind.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Well, except that he would seem to go back and
and and and recognize ancestors and listen to them speaking.
And he would, he would, they would be known to him.
But but but I would, I would throw this in too.
I mean, your argument is is a good one, Rob,
that that we do create our own reality and and
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and our our vision of the past, my past, your
past realists. They seem to us we're trying to recreate it,
not fully recognizing what it is, because I mean, remember,
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you know, a priori knowledge, and how few of us
have ever ever come into into the world with that?
Uh yeah, and and and and and I'm said, that
is uh that we don't know how I all have
this recollection, uh that some that some seem to do,
you know, with unerring detailed accounts of everything, to where
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they could like recite a language or or or remember
people or or or or lines of a poem, or
or how to play the piano, having never been taught
in this lifetime. But you know, I think that I
think that we're we're trying to we're trying to get
back to a memory. And so we're we're going in
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our consciousness and and our inner consciousness.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It has a memory too.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
It has a memory of of not only what's transpired
during this this physical life of ours, but presumably of
an earlier life, of a past and and and presumably
it has some information beyond us, you know, as we
tend to think of spirit as having guiding us with
insight that that is not known to us otherwise. So
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if if this were true, then it would have to
have a lot of memory bank, huge memory bank, and
and and and it and it probably doesn't come as
it goes buffeted through this world and being born in
the drama of this life.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But isn't that what people total? But isn't that what
people are saying that the Akashak records are for?
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Oh yeah, well that the memory that the a Kajak
records are a history of everything?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
See, so I mean the Kashak records exist on one
on one level, you know, on an astral level, one
of the astral levels, and and they are a record
of well histories, yeah, but moreover there are they're a
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record of like I would call them more like tendencies
or likelihoods or probabilities.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Faw instead, Bye, We've had to take our break. Exponation.
Von Braschlar is my special guest at this hour. We're
talking about dreams, time travel, and much more. If you'd
like to find out more information about Von Broschlar, he
has a Facebook page. And we'll be back on the
other side of this very short break as the X
Zone continues. With heris Trili. Rob McConnell from our broadcast
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centers and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario on your hometown radio,
Classic twelve twenty, streaming around the world on Classic twelve
twenty dot c A Don't go Away is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm Rob McConnell and welcome to the X Zone, a
place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality. Today
on the X Zone, what is the Star of Bethel?
Who would ever have thought that the Rosetta stone, the
identity of the Star of Bethlehem, would have been found
on an ancient Roman coin that was purchased in the
spring of nineteen ninety one by astronomer and coin collector
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doctor Michael Mulnar. Upon examining his newly acquired coin, doctor
Mulner noticed that the inscription of the coin was actually
telling an astrological story about the Star of Bethlehem. Using
his facilities at Ruter's University and the philosophy of astrology,
doctor Mulner was able to identify the Star of Bethlehem
as a rare planetary alignment of the planet Jupiter, being
in the House of Areas on April seventeenth, six b C,
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the birth date of Jesus Christ. These findings were supported
by additional findings as well.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
If you could read my love what Timm Thoms could
till Juice Black.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Moving out of ghost film moviation.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Well and a cast so done are a far tres
John with Jane upon my feet.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You know that ghost is me.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And I will never be said for as long as
I'm a ghost.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That you can't see.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Welcome back to the excellent everyone. We're coming to you
from our broadcast entering studio seeing Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty, streaming worldwide at
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Von Broschler is our special
guest this hour and Von do in your opinion, do
those who have passed come to us in dreams.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yes, I think they do, but I think there's a
there's a window for most of them. It's like the
first three days after they're passing. And many people will
will there's a lot of accounts of people. I've interviewed
people for another book, how this will happen so close
to the death of the loved one, and they'll come
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and they'll they'll see something revealing and it'll be like
a goodbye. Really, And I think it's important to not
try to access, access or contact.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
The dead as they have to move.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Forward in their own existence, if you believe that there's
life after this life.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And as I do.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
And then but if they come to you, you see,
that's a whole other matter. If they come to you
and they want to have a moment with you for
whatever reason, maybe just to sit with you and for
a moment, maybe say something.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I think it's wonderful, just wonderful.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Have you yourself had experiences in the paranormal? For example,
how you seen ghosts?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You have?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Let's hear could you sing so?
Speaker 8 (32:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I guess my biggest one has to do with the
woman that was my roommate and she ended up in
hospice and died young. But there's a happy ending that's
I'll get to. And it starts years before when I
was working at the Theosophical Headquarters of in in Wheaton, Illinois,
(32:27):
National head Quarters. And I hadn't been there very long,
and I'd taken over in the publishing house from a
man that had kind of started the publishing division. And
I started getting these calls the first summer I was there,
and they and this is before cell phones, that's important
(32:50):
to know. And in the the rotary phone rings on
my desk and I pick it up, and clear as
could be, I hear a man who sounds very old
and very very very much like an elderly man from
India and East Indian and he is asking me if
I would like to join him on a lightning tour
(33:13):
of India in the fall. And I said in the fall,
And he said, yes, autumn is the best time, sir,
He said, I would do this in late August or
early September. He said, as soon as I get my
group together. I do this every year and it is
very profound. It would it would change your life. I
(33:34):
would show you things, it would change your life. And
I said, well, sir, I'm very flattered, you know, And
why did you ask me? And he just like talks
over me, like doesn't really respond to me. He says, like,
you must come with me, sir. He said, I have
selected you to come on this tour of India with me,
(33:56):
this this fall my Lightning my Lightning Rod tour of India.
And he said, we'll think about it. I said, well,
I'm very busy. I just started this job and we're
doing so many fun things here, and we'd started a
radio series and a new magazine and all all kinds
of fun things. And I said, I just can't do it.
I can't get back up and go and he and
(34:18):
he kept, you know, not hearing that. He says, you
must come with me. I will call you again, sir,
and the line goes dead. Now, okay, So I get
another call like this, like I don't know, a few
days later, maybe a week, and he says basically the
same thing, and I'm saying, like, I can't go with you.
I'm very sorry. I don't know why you called. You
must have been trying to reach mister Patterson, who had
(34:41):
this job for many decades before me, and and and
I don't know why you called me. And he said, no, no, no,
he said you must come with me on my lightning
tour of India. And he goes on to explain how
important it is, and he and linoes dead. His voice
is very clear, and I can understand him very well,
(35:03):
even though he sounds very old and has a very
thick accent, you know. And I'm thinking, like, oh, it's
somebody in their society, you know, and maybe because it's
an international group, somebody in India, you know. And I
ask around, is there anybody like that? So I go
to the other buildings that were in the publication building,
and the gal that does the switchboard, I said, did
(35:27):
you switch a guy over here?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I had a.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Thick Indian accent, sounded very very old. It happened like
just minutes ago, and then like a week ago. No, no, no, no,
he must have dialed you directly, Von, I'd remember anything
like that. And I started asking different people, you know,
and in both buildings, you know, I thought I was
being played, you know, it was a set up, a.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Joke.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
No, they all looked at me like I was crazy
when I started asking these questions. So I get a
third call and it's the man again. And he says,
if you can't come with me on my lightning a
rod tour of India, I will give you one other
thing that will change your life forever, sir. I will
teach you how to move in the light. I said,
(36:16):
move in the light. He said, if you learned to
meditate in the early morning light, when the sun first rises,
beside running water, he said, you can.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You can. You can be in the light.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
And you can move in the light. You can become
one with the light. And I said, were you talking
about meditation right? And it's like I'm thinking, like I
have a big blanket and we have a pond in
the back, with a you know, arated pond, and I'm thinking,
how I can do this. He doesn't seem to recognize
anything I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And he just talks over me.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
He says, you must learn to meditate in the early
light and the early morning light, be side running water,
and this will change your life forever, sir, he said,
believe me. And he never goes again. And I'm thinking,
oh my gosh, oh my gosh. So I get I
get out this blanket, this yellow blanket, somebody give me
(37:16):
and I laid it out next to the pond in
the back of our grounds there and beside the water end.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's incredible.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
It's incredible to do this, to meditate an early morning light.
It profound experience meditating like that. And I'm thinking like,
oh my gosh, who is this guy? So I get
to thinking, like we have a We're on the third floor,
and on the first floor is the bookstore called Quest Books.
(37:48):
And I go down there. I talk to the woman
who's the manager, and he said, where are the good
books on meditation? She said, what do you mean, von
the good books on meditation? I said, I mean the
ones written by the men in India, the masters, the
really good stuff, not you know, not the new gurus,
the new stuff. Where are where are where are the
legitimate teachers? She said, Oh, down that row. So I
(38:13):
walked down that row and it's like a dead end,
you know, It's like and I and there's a fate
a book face out and I picked it up and
I flipped it over and I started reading the back
and it talked about this old man from India that
would lead people on a lightning rod tour of India
every year in the autumn months. And he would do
(38:38):
this every year for many, many years. It was a tradition.
And they said he was perhaps best known by as
many students through the years as teaching a technique of
meditating in the morning light beside water, fascinating. And then
it said the year he was born, and it listed
the year he had died.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
It was two years before he called me.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Talk about geting a call from the other side.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
So so I so so I actually, you know, played
with that a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
And later on I moved.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
To Minnesota, and and I had her roommate who had
had a scare with brain cancer. But she she'd recovered,
and she was she'd been written up in books with
as an amazing recovery example.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
She said it was.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Cousin's cat sat on her, sat on her and purred,
but she was she was given up as dead. And
then she she made this spontaneous recovery, and you know,
and she went on the radio and everything for a while.
And so she came to live with me, and then
she got very, very sick. We held a meeting at
(39:46):
her house and tried to encourage her to go to
an intervention. I guess you call it encouraged her to
go in for testing. And yes, yes it had. It
had come back, and and and and the and the
cancer had spread throughout all her rain. The operator they
couldn't get it, and she had to go into hospice.
So I taught her when she was in hospice how
(40:07):
to meditate in the early morning light beside water.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
How do I do that?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
There was a window that came through the hospice and
it it would if I could move the bed a
little to the right and a little bit forward, the
light would shine on her from the window. And then
I had this little thing I put next on the
desk next to her bed that created water, run running water.
(40:33):
And we did that and and and we we.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
We practiced this.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
We we practice actually leaving our bodies together in a
in a in a in a meditation and and and
going through different you know levels, I mean different different
subtle energy levels. And and it was it was really incredible.
I mean, we we we so many of us think
(40:56):
our world is this physical world. Beyond the physical plane,
there are other planes of existence. There's the metal plane,
you know, the astral plane. There are many many planes
of existence. And we explored all of those and I
took her up pretty far, up to a spiritual level,
and the color started getting very blue, and everything changed.
(41:20):
And I came back and at that time she no
longer had the ability to speak, but she would do
these exercises with me. And I said, dab, I said,
I said, I think you could go on your own. Now.
I can't take you where you need to go next,
but I think you can do it yourself, don't you.
And she squeezed my hand really tight, and she looked
(41:42):
me right square in the eyes and said the first
word she'd said in weeks.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
She said yes.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Next morning she died, and when and I went home
after she died. There she was playing with her cat.
Now I thought, huh, okay, so and she went upstairs
and then there was music in the room.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Okay, hold on here, hold on here. She was dead. Yeah,
but she was at your house and she walked upstairs
to the Okay, I'm just you.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
She I remember. She was playing with her cat.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
She claimed it had been so helpful and reviving her
the first time. And an old and old wizard. She's
playing with him with a pink ribbon. And I'd never
seen this pink ribbon before. But after she finished playing,
she dropped the ribbon and curled, curled, curled, as ribbons
will do, and fell in this wicker basket. And I
went and I after she just she went up the stairs.
(42:37):
I went to the basket and found the pink ribbon.
I said, I've never seen this pink ribbon before.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Stan By Vaughn, We're going to have to take a
bit of a cliffhanger. Hare ex o ation Von Brochlar's
our guest. His Facebook page is I just had it
here a second ago. Facebook dot Com forward slash the Brashlar,
and we'll come back talking about more of this fascinating information.
Consciousness to the light as we continue hearing the X
(43:03):
Zone from our broadcast center and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
That's good, just like a old time.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
I'm dreamy.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
This is Nick Pope here from Nick Pope dot Net.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'd like to wish Rob McColl everyone at the X.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Zone Radio show and all your listeners are very happy Christmas,
and I wish you every happiness in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Oh, it's a long road back, I prom me you.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
It's amazing how you can speak grand to my.
Speaker 7 (44:06):
We have that same word.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You can light up the dog.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Trys on me.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I can explain.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Why I came when you don't say a thing.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
The sun landsman On Braschlar's my special guest of this hour.
X O Nation, this Facebook pages, Facebook dot com, forward
slash v Brashlar, and we're coming to you right here
on this frequency twelve twenty from our broadcast station and
(44:51):
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, on your hometown Classic twelve
twenty and streamed around the world on Classic twelve twenty dot.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
All right, that story that you told us before we
went to the break, Vaughn was it was hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, it is a little hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Now I'm not you know, I'd like to I'd like
to preface this by saying, it's not that I don't
believe it.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Well, yeah, there are a lot of people. There were
a lot of moving parts in this. And they she
had a group of people we tried very very hard
to do hospice at home and and and these were
the people who actually were part of the intervention that
got her into the hospital for the testing. Now, how
how how it came back that at the age of
thirty three, she was going to die after going through
(45:42):
an eight year recovery and having had cancer for seven years.
You know, it's like, I can't figure this out, you know,
and and and and but but the way she died
was I honestly felt that having learned to do this
kind of kind of uh meditation with her uh which
(46:04):
was kind of directed by the man who gave me
these mysterious phone calls years earlier, had a part in
her ability to walk freely out of that place. And
and I and I kept telling the woman who was
in charge of the hospice was run by a Catholic order,
and and and and and and Sister Luke was the
(46:27):
head nurse, and they had none And I told Sister Luke,
I said, Deb's going to walk out of here, She said, Vaughan.
Nobody walks out of here. Nobody, I said, Deb will.
And and I honestly think I honestly think she did.
I think I think that that that she's a free person.
And my takeaway from this is that everybody needs to
(46:48):
learn uh conscious living and conscious dying, because if if
your if, if your consciousness is really at a at
a high level in touch with universal consciousness. If you're
really highly conscious when you die, then you'll die a
(47:09):
conscious death and it won't be a sudden scary thing,
you know, like we read in the Tibetan Book of
the Dead, of the horrors that people go through because
they're not ready to die.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Well, that's how we get ghosts.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
I mean, I was a ghost hunter for a while,
and it's a terrible thing to encounter people who are
so scared, are so confused, are so holding on to
life when they die that they can't move forward, but
to be ready to actually get up and walk out, because,
like I told it again and again, the fact that
(47:41):
you don't have the ability to stand on your feet
and walk out of here does not mean that you
can't walk out of here. And I honestly think, I
honestly think that she could because when she dropped that
pink ribbon in the basket and went upstairs, and I
heard the music coming out of the room, and I
got to thinking, You're like, should I go in there
(48:01):
and see her? So I went in there and the
room was empty. Because what I'd forgotten was that all
of our things had been removed by her parents because
they knew she was going to die. There was no stereo,
there was no bed, there was nothing there. Yet I
heard the music, and the music stopped when I turned
(48:21):
the doorknob and walked inside. Now, I went out in
the hallway and there was a little closet where she,
I don't know, she kept towels there. And I got
to thinking, you know, like gosh, did they.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Get it all? You know? And I went on in
the hallway.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
They did get all the towels and everything. But there
was a box of pink ribbons that she had been
working on before she went in the hospice, had been
working on to make as Christmas presents for people.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Oh, I had never.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Seen that before.
Speaker 6 (48:57):
There was a secret thing, a secret basket.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Nobody knew that.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
And and and so I think it was It was
an eye opener for me, you know. And now I
think about life and I think about death, and I
think that death is and what people think it is.
And I think that the life isn't what people think
it is. It's like we're not we're not fully awake people,
you know, we're sleep walking through life, and when we die,
(49:24):
we're confused.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, I think it.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
You know, if if if we do, if we do
proper dream work, if we learn to meditate, if we
tune our consciousness and become more aware of everything around
us and including why we're here and what we should
be doing in our life, then I think I think
things are gonna things are going to work out better
(49:50):
for us. I think, for one thing, we're going to
die with the purpose, and that purpose will be to
continue our evolution as as souls.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Because I think that it's just.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
A continual merry go round of people coming here, riding
around the merry ground and having a wonderful time riding
the wooden horse that's on that carousel, and the music stops.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
And we call that the end. The end. There is
no end.
Speaker 6 (50:19):
The music starts again, and you go to another horse
and you continue going around the carousel.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So is this all? Is this all part of reincarnation?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Reincarnation?
Speaker 6 (50:27):
Absolutely, it's a never ending cycle. It'll never ever end never.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
So if it never ends, one, where did it start?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
I think it started with consciousness. Actually, I think there
are two things that bring life into into motion, and
that is consciousness and light. And I think, you know,
in the Hindu philosophy. They call that shakti and shiva.
And when consciousness and like come together. There when when
conscious when light reaches consciousness, that is reality.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
That is our reality.
Speaker 6 (51:06):
And that's why we're here, I mean, are we're here
to to to allow our consciousness to experience this life
in different manifestations, in different scenarios, so that it has
some greater meaning to the universal flow, the continuum of life,
(51:26):
if you will, that is universal consciousness.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
So am I to understand that each and every person
who comes to this plane, at this plane is supposed
to learn something, gather information that is fed to the universe,
the universe.
Speaker 6 (51:43):
That's what I think, Rob, I mean just one guy's opinion.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
But to me, this is a big it's a big
Easter egg hunt.
Speaker 6 (51:51):
I mean, it's like everybody is is is on a
discovery mission in this life to find out things. It's
all about discovery. Discovery is everything. And ask me what
we're supposed to discover. I think it's different for every.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
One of us.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
But if all this information is going back to the universe,
why do we need to keep on reliving it or
experiencing new scenarios When all this information that has been
already submitted back to the universe by millions upon millions
upon millions of Yeah, well, but see, there is no end.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know.
Speaker 6 (52:32):
That's like we tend to think in terms that are
linear beginning, a middle, and it's ongoing. It continues to
unfold and evolve, it'll and it'll continue to evolve forever
and ever.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
You know, there's there's no beginning, there's no end.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
But it seems at times that we are here as
as puppets, as collectors for unseen masters.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
So back to the Acashak records. I know that a
lot of people want to think of the Akashak Records.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Is the place where you can go.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
I always think of like the movie roller Ball, you know,
and Jonathan goes and he wants to look in the
hall of records and find out.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
What's going on, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (53:17):
And you know, it's like we'd all like to just
go and here's my library card, now tell me what's
going on. But you know, it's not that easy, you know,
because there are so many variables in how things unfold.
I mean, it's true, you know, as Einstein suggested, that
the past, present, and future are all happening simultaneous simultaneously.
(53:43):
It is highly likely that they're all progressing and that
yesterday has not ended and tomorrow is already hear, but
we're only experiencing this moment where we're standing right now,
and we only experience what we see in front of us.
That's our limitation, you know. So so we have to
actually live out every every every scenario. There are so
(54:08):
many variables, and there's so many ripples in in in
everybody's life that will that will impact other lives. So
you can't say that everything is prescripted. It's impossible to
prescript anything. So they're only there are only energy tendencies.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
You know. It's like, at this moment in time, it
looks like it's going to happen this way. You know.
Speaker 6 (54:33):
I always think of people that they they they are
so slavishly uh dependent on following their numeral numerology charts
or their astrology charts, you know. But but there are
so many things that will will affect these things, you know,
And you can you can do the tarot cards and
(54:54):
this shows you how things seem to be going right now,
but it could all change tomorrow. It could change by
what you do and what your neighbor does.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, but I've found that a lot of the tarot
card readings, the tea leave readings, the astrology, the numerology
is based on the on the way that the reader
is interpreting the information. You get two people with the
same spread of tarot cards or the same numerological sequence,
(55:26):
and you're going to get different answers.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Reader bias. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, reader bias.
Speaker 6 (55:31):
Well, that happens with everything, any any kind of divination,
like gazing. You and I could look at the sky
and do skygazing. We see different things. Sure perception, which
is wrong?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I don't know, Vron.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
We've got about a minute before I have to say
so long to you. What is your final final words
of wisdom to the listening audience of the Explanation tonight
on Classic twelve twenty.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Hey, gang, keep up the keep up the journey. The
journey is everything.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
We're all We're all on a journey to Oz and
it's it might seem like a dream at the end
when you wake up and Annie m shakes you and says, honey,
it was only a dream.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
But we're all going to get to OZ.
Speaker 6 (56:16):
You know, I think that every one of us is
on a journey and I think it's really important that
we prepare for the journey. You pack just a little
bit more than the fool who goes off on the
journey with that knapsack and the tarot card, and and
and and and really and really embrace the journey. You know,
(56:37):
don't be afraid of the obstacles that are out there,
the supernatural allies and enemies, and the gatekeepers that make
your hero's journey difficult.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Your journey is a journey of of of of a hero.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Vaughan, thank you so much for joining us. I look
forward to the next time you meet us back here
in the X zone. Until then, take care of yourself
and to you and yours, the very best.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Of the season. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
Good night, Vaughn. Explanation. I guess this hour has been
von Braschler on Facebook dot com forward slash v Braschlar.
He's got a number of books. Very interesting man. I
call him a philosopher, philosopher of the unknown. I'll be
back tomorrow night at let me see eleven o'clock Eastern.
As once again we continue our quest into the searching
(57:26):
for answers demanding of truth in the world of parapsychology
and paranormal So until then, my friends, I am Rob McConnell.
Keep your eyes to the sky and your heart to
the light, and keep your radio's tuned to your town
radio Classic twelve twenty
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