September 17, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode of TheHeleyCast, Daniel sits down with Oklahoma comedian Dr. K for a wide-ranging conversation that covers comedy, life in New York, and the events shaping the world today. Recorded on September 11, the two reflect on the day’s meaning, recent headlines, and how big moments intersect with personal journeys. Dr. K shares stories about honing his craft in New York City while living in New Jersey, navigating identity as both an Oklahoman and Missourian, and finding his voice on stage.
A thoughtful, funny, and timely conversation that blends comedy with reflection.
📍 Recorded inside Twisters Comedy Club, Edmond, OK.
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A thoughtful, funny, and timely conversation that blends comedy with reflection.
📍 Recorded inside Twisters Comedy Club, Edmond, OK.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
We're going, we're going, we're going wrong. Now we're growing. Hey, Kelly,
welcome to the Heey Cast. I want to start out
to and just admit the material you sent me I
did not have time to read because certain things in
the news happened and I got sidetracked.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All the assassination, Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The assassination and everything. Rip. Prayers go out to his
family as well. Getting past that, what I know of
you is you are a native Oklahoma comedian. Well, but
you also went to New York City just recently. And
(00:47):
that's really why I brought you in today is nine
eleven guys.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, and I noticed that I didn't. But first of all,
I was not a native of Oklahoma until Roe V.
Way was overturned. Okay, because my mother was pregnant with
me when the family moved to Missouri, I was born there,
so so for a long time I was a native
(01:13):
of Missouri until he overturned Way.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But yes, I spent two years working on my craft
in New York. I was living in New Jersey, New York,
or that area as a Hillside, which is a suburb
of Newark. And I did that for two reasons. One,
I didn't want to pay rent in New York and
the other one I didn't want to drive there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Take the subway.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Oh yeah, exactly, you know I would Driving in New
Jersey is hard enough. I mean this first time in
my life I ever gave somebody the finger while driving
to church.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So that subway system that's in Manhattan, New York area
that goes into Jersey as well.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, no, I'd have to either. There was a I
eventually learned that there was a bus about two blocks
from where I was living that would get me to
Port of Thority Bus terminal about thirty to thirty five minutes,
only cost six dollars non stop. It was non stop
too nice, comfortable bus, and so from Port to Thorny
(02:20):
bus terminal, I would take the subway wherever I needed
to go. Before I found out about that, I would
have to drive to the Elizabeth train station in Elizabeth,
New Jersey Park there didn't take a train to Penn
station and get on the subway there, and that took
longer and substitute teaching in New York because the first
(02:45):
of those buses authority didn't leave to like six thirty.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't mean to err up try to get that
mica a little closer to you're You're perfectly allowed to touch it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And okay, all right, well you know I don't you know,
I was just looking at tracking stereo. Okay, I was trying.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was just tracking your voice. You you sounded fine
on the board and everything, but I want to capture
everything you're saying as well. So yeah, but uh, substitute teacher.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah. And some some of the assignments were either early
enough or far enough away to where I couldn't make
it on time if I took that six thirty bus,
So I would have to leave five something and get
on the train, take that bus to Lizabeth train station,
get on the train from there. I'm too old for
that thirty a two hour commute, get up at four
(03:35):
four point thirty to substitute teacher. But you know, and
the students were like young enough to be my grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, how are you?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh you're not too old.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But no, but I you know, I would so touch.
I'd tell them to get on the Florida Indian style
and they'd all put on headsets. Uh. You know, they
start fixing each other's laptops. You know, one kid sat
at my desk and rang a balance and check out
some dude. You know. So I was like no, no, no,
(04:09):
Indian style like Native American style, and they started dealing cards.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh Jesus. When you were in New York for the
two years, well New Jersey, but you did comedy in
New York? What clubs were your? Was a dangerfield still
around or was it done?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well? They closed for a while, then they reopened his
rodneys and I did one or two open mics there.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
There's Gotham as well.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Gotham. I did some open mics there. In fact, yeah,
that kind of funny story behind that. When I was
a professor in Alabama, Uh, this is back and around.
Would you teach sports management?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I had I was living in death, the Alabama
suburb of Mobile, but I had a girlfriend in Medford,
New Jersey. Uh that's a long story. But anyway, one
morning she goes into her kitchen on a Wednesday morning
and she sees a baby bat in her sink, floating
(05:20):
in the dishwater with the dishes. That freaked her out,
but she thought the bat was dead, so she saw
it in the trash can and Sunday morning she went
out to add more trash in the trash can and
found out that the bat was still alive. So that
kind of freaked her out. Oh so uh, first I
was being the sympathetic boyfriend. Oh I'm sorry to answer
(05:40):
that happened to you and all of that. Right then
IFTER got off the phone. I got a little unry.
I started seeing these pictures of batman, man, bat bat
woman and all of this. And then I go to church.
I arrived early, and I get a call on my cellphone.
She goes, you send me more bat stuff. I'm gonna
kick your ass. And so I had already been thinking
(06:02):
about doing this fake ten day vacation where I would
go to Oklahoma and see my family and go to
New Jersey and see her, and you know what, I
would fly from Mobile to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City to Philadelphia,
Philadelphia back to Oklahoma City. And I had just done
a lot, well, well, I just done a stand up
(06:24):
routine at at my church at talent show they were having.
And I'd been out of comedy for a long time,
you know, almost twenty years. And I listened to recording.
I thought, you know, my marriage had just broken up.
I thought, I can't do this again. So I went
(06:45):
through the internet, I ran into I ran across Jessica Curson. Okay, yeah,
she wasn't famous yet, right, But she told me about
a mic at the Gotham Comedy Club that I could
do while I was out in Jersey. And so instead
of just you know, telling Nancy, Hey, I'm gonna do
a little stand up while I'm out there visiting you,
(07:06):
I just fordered her the email exchange between me and
Jessica Curson. And she thought I was making another bat
joke because it was a Gotham comedy club. I didn't.
I was a batman nerd wise kid. I didn't even
think about that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's hilarious. There was there's Gotham. Dangerfields was out there,
and then you have the Seller. Did you hit the
Seller ever? I think I might have.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah, that was that woman was talking about kids
that are vape who've never smoked start vaping, and so
that was like taking methadone when you've never done heroin,
like she said. But I think I remember do the
Seller the West Side Comedy Club.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
There's a Boston comedy club in New York. Isn't there
or heard of that? Okay, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And I auditioned for the Amateur Night at the Apollo Theater.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, that's right, the Apollos there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, and I did some background acting and I got
to be on my favorite TV show, Batman. No went
off the air when I was three years old. Anyway, No,
my favorite TV with Adam West. Yeah, that went off
to here when I was three years old. But anyway,
I heard a TV show Blue Bloods. Oh and you know,
(08:27):
and I went to four episodes. I was like a
kid on a field trip. It was or first time.
It was like like I was six years old ago
in my first Dallas Cowboy game. Second time, I was
like a fourth grader on a field trip. It was
really cool. So many people involved in making of a
TV show, and I was able to see myself in
(08:47):
one of the four episodes I was there for. So
I was getting my fifteen minutes of fame four seconds
at a time. And but it was a great experience.
Donnie Walberg actually said to me.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That's actually really cool. That's really cool a Wallburg recognizing you,
or at least saying hi. That's cool. Yeah, the Wallburgs
are big. I like the Wallburgs, like I haven't had
their burgers? Have you tried their.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
There's so many things I should have done. It's almost
like I was afraid to have fun. I'm like, I'm
here on business, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But Oklahoma City is on a glow up with their
restaurants and everything. But well, I've noticed with Dallas they're
on a real big kind of scale. Like, have you
been to Dallas lately?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So there's a place I can't remember what Mala is,
but there's a place called Italy and it's a whole
two story or three story Italy grocery store where it
has the big wheels of cheese from Italy. Did it's
it's honestly, I made a trip just to go there.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah. Those Italian dudes.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Italian dudes love Italian food. I love just Italians are
just oh I.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Love Italian food. Now. Italian guys, they they are so
passionate that when they take viagra, they become attracted to
both sexes. It makes the day go by.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh yeah, they go they go by. I get it,
I get it, I get it. That's hilarious. Hold on,
I got.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Dead.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Air is always nice. Oh yeah, I'm trying to do
a podcast and send something.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To well while he's doing that, folks, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Go ahead, man, promote what you've got going on here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Car dealers are all going to hell.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's probably not wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
They keep selling their souls. Yeah, and there's Tontos and
the spectrums. I wanted to get a jep Grand Cherokee,
but I couldn't get one.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Toyota had Toyotas are good.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I had to set up for a jeep Grand Caucasian.
I called it my grand Cracker. Uh, it's part of Cherokee.
But I can't prove it, you.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Know, just like Elizabeth Warren. What Elizabeth Warren?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh yeah, you know, it's not on the rolls. I
have to find another way to put it through.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Carlo's one sixty second Cherokee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was supposed to be like three thirty seconds Cherokee is well,
my dad always told.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Me I am nothing. I'm not even American. I'm Romanian.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Romanian yeah oh wow, yeah, like naughty, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I've got I've got like
one point I want to say, like fourteen percent Italian,
I've got Ukrainian, Russian. I mean the majority is like Greek,
the majority is ninety three percent Romanian. Like I'm Romanian,
but my ancestors have been all over, Like there's point
(12:02):
four percent African. You know, that wasn't a happy marriage.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I definitely can't see that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, no, no, it's just I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Part Irish and part French. So when I go into
a bar, I pick a fight and then surrender.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Ah. I just listened to the Charlie Sheen and Joe
Rogan podcast on my way here and Charlie said he
met Rodney Dangerfield just you know, bringing up the Dangerfield thing,
and he said, uh, he and Rodney went out to
party and Rodney's like, uh, where are you? You know
(12:38):
what what ethnicity are you?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And he's like, I'm Spanish and Irish And he's like,
so half of you likes to throw a parade and
the other half doesn't or one half, no, doesn't know
whether to throw a parade and the other half doesn't
know whether to go to war. Like Jesus Christ, Oh
my gosh, who's your favorite comedian?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I need to start asking more comedians who their favorite
comedians are. And I'll ask you, like two you you
have two comedians, so like of all time like they're
dead or even a live still or and now like
right now trending. Who do you think has what.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Early influences were Johnny Carson's, Steven Wright, Steve Martin, weird
Al is very Argus Hamilton. Okay, well I've opened for
twice and.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I think my dad has a story about excuse me,
meaning weird Al Yankovic's brother in a Minnesota bar. Okay,
And like I can't remember what the whole story is.
I'll have to have my dad tell it sometime. But
like he was just wearing up and down, and I
guess he was getting free drinks because of it and stuff,
(13:56):
and he did look sort of like weird now like.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Johnny since said weird Al's brother was normal was an
insurance salesman named normal Dave Yankoby uh uh but uh
currently j Leto was on early influence of mine. But
I really really one of my favorites as far as watching.
Uh currently, I think Greg Morton is the funniest man
(14:21):
in North America. You know who that is?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't, yeah, And I mean, what say the name Greg,
Greg Morton Morton? And you know, I know Jim Norton.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
You see him on TV and he's funny, but if
you see it in person, he just he just kills you.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, well while you're looking him up. He is a
semi finalist on America's Got Talent. He headlines several times
since the LINI been in Oklahoma City. That's where I
met him. I've got to know him pretty well. He
lives in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Uh black.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, he's a light skinned black guy with glasses and
buck teeth. This is sound effect, Yeah he does. He
did a lot of sound effects. Is cartoon voices. America's
gotta tell that's.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Him, Okay, Yeah, and he'll post pictures for you guys
and you'll see him. Yeah, And uh, I need to
get TV in here, so not to interrupt you. I
I think I'm gonna have a group of guys come
in kind of like you listen, Joe Rogan never know.
So he has a group of buddies called protect Our
(15:30):
Parks with Shane Gillis, Mark Norman and Ari Shaffir and
they all come in. They get blasted and talks conspiracies
and it's a silly pot it's not to be taken seriously.
And they do history. It's all over the board, and
I've gotten I've picked three comedians out of the scene
right now to do a podcast every once in a while,
(15:50):
and it's gonna be on Saturdays, so we're gonna watch
a football game or watch a sports event while we're
doing the podcast. That or like a Fight Companion Joe
Rogan Fight Companion.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
As well, a little bit of a Manning cast.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I haven't seen Manning cast. What is Manning Cast is.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That ESPN does it on one of their alternate channels
during Monday Night. I don't want to get sued, so
you know, no, no what to do on Monday night football.
You'll have Peyton and Eli Manning. I think they might
have Cooper on there too, and they'll have a special
celebrity guest and they'll watch a game live and comment
on it while it was showing it on the TV.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That's cool, So kind of like in a living room
setting or they like.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, okay, like a living room type of setting.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I thought I'll have to talk to Aaron, but I
figured if I could bring a TV in here with
a stand and maybe put under the camera or whatnot,
and capture as much camera time as we can and
then eventually have to go to audio because I only
have a certain amount of time on camera, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Or I could bring I guess
I could bring a backup. I should probably start to.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Have the legality of well.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, the only thing the That's what I've thought too,
the legality of.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
A production retransmission rather use of this broadcast.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
We're not going to so the board could possibly I
could connect the board to the TV, but I think
what I'm going to do is have the TV as
a background so you're not gonna necessarily hear it, and
then you and I would be talking over it. And
the whole idea is we're getting drank, have fun, talk
about the game here and there, but it's not necessarily focused.
(17:39):
It's just to have fun, you know. It's a I
think it's for me. I haven't even told the guys this,
but I think it's more of a mental health thing
for men as well, because I think once in a
while men need that kind of day or night where
guys just hang out and let loose. And I get it,
(18:00):
we're recording, we're on camera and everything back at the
same time, it's content, you know what I mean. Hey,
you're holding your diet. Co cheers, buddy, Thank you for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Thank you. You know. The three truest things ever said about me,
this ties into what you're talking about. One when I
was eleven years old and my mother told me that
all I think about is what Kelly wants to say.
She she recently apologized to that. I don't apologize.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Oh your mother is still alive. Yeah, yeah, God bless God.
He's eighty six. God bless my grandmother. She died at
eighty eight, So God bless.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Hey, that wasn't that's not foreshadowing, that's not you know,
but I was just saying, God, like, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That'sing is when I became. When I first started teaching
at the United States Sports Academy, my first wife said
he enjoys imparting his sports knowledge on people.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Why do you have a first wife? How many? Why
have you had too?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Hey yeah it's uh then better than the president.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I'm not my third wife wife, third.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Wife is coming up soon now, guy, lady, you see
you single?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
God? Okay. The third truth me was when I was working.
I had this job and one of my coworkers was
selling something for a fundraiser or something, and she goes,
I think I'll go to my uncle's liquor store and
sell it to some of my wino friends. And I
started going all my wine, our friends, I have said,
(19:37):
all down, and she goes, Kelly, you've got singing in comedy.
Tourette's the three truest things said about Let me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
We got off to the silly start, and I love
it and everything. Let me get a little serious with you.
I want to dive a little deep into you. I
want to get to know you. I want everything. No,
you said you were from Missouri, where you're born and
born there.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, I was born there, but we I was like
a year old when we moved back to Oklahoma, so
I have no red.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So you were born in Missouri. I believe my mom
was also born in Missouri, but she was raised in
New Kirk, Oklahoma. I think she was born in like
Springfield or something in Illinois or not Illinois, Missouri, but
lives in lived in Newkirk, so most of your life. Well,
(20:36):
I'm getting you only lived in Missouri abal a year
moved here. I'm trying to when did you start comedy?
Because we went you kind of went over your young
age with your mother and everything. It wasn't it's specifically detailed,
but like I generally, I I generally have comedians on
to get to know them, to get their public get
(20:58):
give them publicity as much as possible. I don't have
a lot of fucking people that listen or whatnot, but
I try.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You know, well, my my first and up, my first
comedy club performance was April first, nineteen eighty five. I
was nineteen, okay, I was gonna say twenty so okay, okay,
I was a jokers and uh.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
What's jokers? Is that here in Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That was a comedy club at Oaklub's the first comedy
club at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay. And where was that located, if you don't mind me.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Sixty third north of Succeressway.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, okay, so close to where Looney Ben used to
be a couple of miles a couple of months, Okay, Okay,
I'm just trying to get in my head. I'm just
trying to Ellen.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
De Generes open for Augus Hamilton there. Back in the
eighties before Ellen was say that again, I saw Ellen
Degeneroes open for Argus Hamilton there. Yeah, thirty years later,
I got to open for Argus Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, Argus. I was gonna say, part Ellen, that'd be
crazy if you opened for Ellen.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
No. Actually I tell people that I interviewed for the
announcer job there and when we did a test dialogue
and she said, you're a good straight man, Kelly, and
I said, well, thank you, Ellen, you're good lesbian. That
didn't happen. I never, but anyway we were talking. I was.
I was in comedy for about four four years, and
then I was inactive for a long time when.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You did comedy up to twenty three, twenty four, because
you were nineteen when you started.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I was, I was.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm trying to keep track. I'm sorry. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I was inactive for a long time when I was
a pow preserve War Preserve wife. Uh, you know I
still have PTSD, you know, post traumatic Suzanne disorder.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Suzanna Jesus sounds like a TV show. You can, you
could make a show. Suzanne.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
His name was my first wife of twenty years. She
had IBS irritable broad syndrome AH, and she filed for
divorce on Martin Luther King Day, And all I could
say was free and last, free and last.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I got on by free last. We're gonna have a
Charlie Kirk day.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Eventually, Oh gosh, I'm just kidding. Of course all the
day after. Of course, for a while I kind of
missed the sex. I have a wet dream.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You're a funny man. You know that you joke around
a lot, and I love it. I love the energy
I do. I didn't expect it from you. Yeah, you're
a doctor.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I have a doctorate in sports management.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Did you ever? Uh? So sports management? That's agency and everything.
Is it medical?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Basically? It's like a general kind of getting your NBA
on ESPN. Really, but it's h what the school was
set up? Basically?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
How before you explained? Just just real quick, I apologize
for interrupting. What did you use your degree? Like? Did
you use it? Use it? Or?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
A few years ago? I was first base coach for
a t ball team. Okay, there saying, oh grandchild, my
second wife's great grands had two great grandsons on a
t ball team. She was the coach. I was the
first base coach. Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Anyways, do you not have any kids of your own?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I have one, she's thirty six.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, she is a graduate of New York University. Before
she went there, though, she was homeschooled by her mother.
So you know, who wouldn't be an honor student if
their dad slept with a teacher. I'm just kidding. I
mean I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I didn't. I get what you're saying, though, I get it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Uh. Anyway back to so basically the school started out
the United States Sports Academy started out, and coaches and
everything would go and go there in the summer and
work on their masters. They get their masters, they work
for a school, so they get automatic pay raise. You know,
forget I because they worked for a school to get
a master's degree, so they had no problem pay off
(25:03):
their student loans. That helps you accreditation. I thought I
could make some sort of career out of that or
just I don't know, but I stayed around and got
my doctorate. Before I studied accounting, I thought an asset
was a female donkey.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know what what was when you chose that degree?
What was the main plan. I'm just I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Not taking a nap when I'm finished.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, did you plan on doing agency work? Well? No,
because that's what it sounds like. Sports management sounds like agency.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Workers only have a clearer goal on it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean, I so you just went to college to
I apologize if this sounds offensive to kind of fuck around, no.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Because no, I did that at OU. But anyway, I
got my backelors at UCO when I was twenty six,
you know.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But anyway, I'm not trying to be really because I
was just I was. I'm genuinely curious about your.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Degree very hard, with no particular direction. But I did
my master's intership with the Aloha Bowl and the Deep
Aloha Bowl, Alahu Bowl doubleheader bowl games Hawaii. And I
did my doctoral mentorship with Chick fil A Peach Bowl.
I did my dissertation on bowl games, and.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
The dissertation is like your final paper, right right. Sorry,
I didn't complete college. I went to I basically almost
got my associates. I didn't complete my associates. And if
I go back, I'm honestly considering going back. Sorry for
interrupting again. I think I want to go back for
broadcasting in journalism, to be honest, I mean, what just
recently happened. I don't know if I'd go into that
(26:38):
type of journalism, you know, maybe more sports journalism and
actually do something with it. But my fiance recently, she
well not recently, but last night told me when I
do my podcast, I put on a persona or bring
on different personas, and I need to start bringing my
own voice to this broadcast. This everything I do, because
(27:02):
I mean, this is my baby, this is my number
one show. I have another show that is in development
with Brandon Killer. We're still trying to work out things
because he's got a busy schedule. So but she told me,
I bring on personas. So my whole thought process is
I need to be more. Uh it looks like I
have a persona on right now with this nice clothing,
(27:24):
But like, I want to dress appropriate for the position
I want to be in, and that's not necessarily a CEO.
I want to be just the owner. I get, I
guess it is CEO, but I want to be the
owner of my entertainment production which my podcast falls under,
which is called Heally Entertainment.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
So like interesting, and I'm sorry that we got off
the track nineteen eighty one. When around nineteen eighty I
guess when Hayden Fry took over his head football coach
University of Iowa. And this was that time period when
the Pittsburgh Steelers has won four Super Bowls in six
years and Iowa wore black and gold. He made a
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powerhouse out of Iowa.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Theyny want to go to defensive wise?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Or am I thinking of the coach? Now? Who's the coach?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Right? I can't remember his name now, but anyway, he
getting me confused to where they looked just like the
Pittsburgh Steelers uniforms. And he said, if they're gonna be winners,
they gotta look like winners. And to this day they
have this Pittsburgh Steelers style uniforms they do so you know,
I guess. And so there's something to what you say
about looking the part.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, definitely. I mean, this isn't gonna be my every
podcast attire. I'm I'm I'm gonna look a little different,
but I think I need to start looking more professional,
start acting more professional. I need to. I told you
ahead of time that I didn't you sent me information
about you and just what has happened this week, I
didn't get to dive into it, and I apologize about that.
(28:59):
And and just to let you know, we're only thirty
minutes in and I already know I want you back on.
You so I will have you back on for sure. Yeah,
we have I want you back on for sure already.
I'm not wrapping things up. I just want you to
know that, Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Okay, I got plenty of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, that's that's why I want you back on, because
you have a mind full of just things to say,
and that's awesome. And bringing back my fiance, she she
told me, uh, find my voice, and she she really
doesn't want to be that. She doesn't want to be
part of that political world where I step out and
(29:40):
bring out my voice on my political views, which I
have on this podcast. I'm very I'm very outward on
my political views. I'm not shy about it. Just what
I saw on your face, Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Absolutely, I'm like economically conservative and socially liberal.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I want to today's atmosphere. I only even call myself conservative.
I'm more of a constitutionalist.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That's there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And the thing about that is the minute I became
I know the minute when I became a constitutionalist, and
it was through a Joe Rogan joke. Joe Rogan was
talking about how our founding fathers built the Constitution and
the amendments, and you know, and we only have twenty seven.
And you know, he's like, if our founding fathers were
here today, they'd be like, you, guys, stopped. This is
(30:34):
a living document. You're supposed to continue adding to it.
So that's that's why I'm a more of a constitutionalist,
like I think, and how divided and biased everything is now,
it's almost damn near impossible to amend an amendment, now,
you know what I mean. So yeah, it's just you
have to the last time. We am sorry for cutting
you off one more time. The last time we amended
(30:55):
an amendment was in nineteen ninety two, over thirty years ago.
Amended an amendment when we created an amendment in nine.
Twenty seventh amendment came in twenty and and that was
a pay raise. It was a pay raise for Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I didn't know that was with the Constitution. I don't
think there'd been an amendment in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The twenty seventh Amendment, also known as the Congressional Compensation
Act of seventeen eighty nine, prevents law changing congressional salaries
from effect until after the next House of Representatives' election.
It was originally proposed in seventeen eighty nine, but wasn't
(31:44):
ratified until nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh so, in other words, if Congress passes a pay raise,
it doesn't take effect until the next session. Yes, okay,
that makes sense. Kind of like Henry Bellman. It used
to be the governor of Oklahoma could never see himself.
They could only serve one term. Really, when Henry Belman
was governor, he got he signed a bill that said
(32:08):
the governor could succeed himself, but it wouldn't take effect
until the next term, so he couldn't succeed himself. So
Deuey Bartley succeeded.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Him and and then he could run again.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, then Bartlett chose to run for the Senate and said, so,
no governor succeeded himself until George and I. I. However, Belman
came back years later and ran for another term as
government won.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, in fact, we had to say, Oklahoma is the
same governor when I was born and when my first
wife was born as it did when our daughter was born.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That sounds like corruption almost.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, no, he just said two terms that they were
just way far apart he served two terms. It shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I guess it's not corruption. It should be nowadays we
just have back to back governor, right because.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
We've had we've had some. I think Mary Fallon.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Has had eight? Did she have eight?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Eight years?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And I think uh Stitt had its state? Had Stt
had eight?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Or have it on the second term?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And who was before Mary Fallon? It was a Democrat? Right,
Henry Henry, Brad Henry, Brad Henry.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And before that did he do eight? I can't, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think, I wait, wait, where were you out of
state during Brad Henry?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Probably Alabama?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Brad Henry served from two thousand and three to twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, that was in Alabama off and on from nineteen
ninety eight to two thousand and eleven. Because I showed
on the faculty at I says for six years after
I got my doctorate. Okay, yeah, A million stories go
with that. We gave an honorary doctor to pat Summit.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Really, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It was really cool. She first of all the weekend
before we did this.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That's what I'm talking about. You got these stories, man?
You when I get better equipment, I'm getting sorry for interrupting.
I keep cutting you off, and I apologize, and my
even my listeners and viewers and have made comments about, hey,
you cut off your your your people. Anyways, continue to
keep it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So the weekend before we did this, my mother stopped
buy on her way to Tampa to come visit me,
and I said, we're giving an honorary doctor to Pat Summit.
And she said, why not give one to Sherry Cole.
She's prettier. And I said, well, if she wins a
thousand games, we might give her one. She goes, oh,
she may not be so pretty then. So anyway, so
(34:47):
we do this press conference Pat seventh. Uh. First of all,
she said that she tells her her players to avoid
the three p's, parents, peers, and the press. And I
don't know, sometimes a joke just pops out me. I
can't stop it, I said, and the police. And so
she had also said that God her lawyer had told
(35:09):
her that he could get her an NBA coaching job,
but she felt like it was recalling in life to
coach women. And so during the reception afterwards, after her ceremony,
we had a reception and I said, coach Summit, can
you name a woman who you think would be a
good NBA coach. Yeah, but this time she's already pegging
me as a jokes because what I said in the
(35:30):
press conference, if you ever seen that ESPN courcially, do
you see the demeanor she reacts to that. But anyway,
she goes, let me think about that for a couple
of minutes. So she walks away. A couple of minutes later,
she walks up to me and she says, I thought
a bunch of question and I just couldn't think of
any woman who's as mean as I am. And I said,
you haven't met Mike's wife.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Jesus correct.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So that was that was a good experience. Oh jeez,
this they got a good picture of me building a
diet coke while standing next to her, too, and another
one me shaking hands when we both got our caps.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
And golly, you know who you remind me of? You
remind me of Al Ashback.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's whom when I was sixteen years old, I would
do the impressions of Alashback covering the Salem witchcraft trial.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Now where are you today? Oh you know, jam, I'm
here at here in the studio, I'm here out with adds.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Good light afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
This is al Ashback, you know, King of the Midgets.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Well, I uh, we were reading the Crucible in English class,
and so I got thinking, what if al Ashback had
covered the Salem witchcraft trials. I'm like this. Back when
I was on kt OK, I was like, good light afternoon, everybody.
This is Al Ashback live from Salem, Massachusetts kt OK
whitch talk. But first let's check the weather or another injustice.
(36:57):
It's two degrees. Woman in Winston, Massachusett is said, isn't Salem.
I'm going to write a letter, I promise you. And so,
from what I understand, John Proctor is going to confess
to forantication in the court day. He said so after
calling his mistress Abigail van Buren. I'm not Abigail Williams
(37:18):
a mad murderous which oh I love a good hate
that's like good. And if you've got some good wicked
hate to confess to, just give us a call eight
four or one thousand, eight four, one thousand Jesus great.
But I've come to this conclusion that listening to sports
talk radio can contribute to divorce, tax problems.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Gambling issues.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Well, no tax problems, I'm talking about me low testosterone
and a rectile dysfunction. And I say this because when
you listen to sports talk radio stations, half the commercials
are for divorce lawyers, tax lawyers as products a treat
low testosterone rectile dysfunction, and how to get out of
(38:03):
the timeshare agreement.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
And or how to get into one.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah. Well, it got to the point to where, for
a while Al's show was title sponsor was Parkridge Medical Clinic.
And when Al says that in his thick New Jersey accident,
it sounds like he was saying Partridge like Partridge Partridge
Medical Clinic. So I'm thinking the Partridge family has its
own men's health clinic. Hello world, that's lacking in affection.
(38:31):
Come on, get happy. We can get help you get
in erection.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I listened to the Morning Animals.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
More, and I believe you happy.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I believe I booked one of them for this podcast.
Oh really yeah yeah yeah, So that's that's that's exciting.
I just have to find the a Saturday that suits them.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah yeah, come on in and help you get to
help you in a jiffy. Don't forget to bring your
health insurance card. Come on in and we'll help you
get a Like you get it easier when you get hard.
You know, stop on by and you'll never be a loader.
(39:11):
Come on, get happy, stop on by. It will help
you get a boner, will make you happy, will make
you happy. You have singing in comedy.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Tourette's that, but you also just have the mind that's
so open to just do that kind of art. I
don't have that, Like I take my comedy from fucking events,
Like I have a Palestine joke, you know I have
I do. I do observational more jokes. You're You're a
(39:46):
lot more silly and loose, and I like that. Like
you make me forget about the issues in the world.
When I do comedy, everyone's like, oh fuck, Maybe he's right.
I gotta make people think.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I really don't get into issues either. I watched a
lot of Johnny Carson. Yeah, Johnny, think about Johnny Carson,
Jay Leno. You could tell they kind of had conservatives
leadings personally, but they really tried hard to make fun
of both sides.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah. I just heard same with Shane gillis Shane gill.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's kind of funny. He's on the SPS. He made
a joke about about Shae Gilders Alexander. Yeah. Two days
later he said, pay com, I'm thinking they should give
him a jersey with the number two ons just said,
Shane Gillis Alexander on it.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know it's awesome. Online. I saw a a Notre
Dame like game used jersey for sale for like twenty
five bucks. I was trying to buy it. I get
paid tomorrow. I was gonna get the uh it's number
like twenty or something, number twenty two or whatnot, and
I wanted to replace the numbers with sixty nine and
(40:49):
get the back with Gillis on the back, use it
as a prop and then until I went to a Gillis,
until I get to a Gillis show, I would take
it to Gillis, have him sign it, get it framed,
and that would be like the masterpiece behind me. When
I get my own podcast studio, like my permanent, I
want to make this the permanent, but also like I
(41:10):
do want to do my own studio as well, where
I have my own kind of because this is all
Aaron like. If you look into this this and I don't, Hey,
I have no issues with what he's done with the decor.
I love the decort and everything. It's just like I
also want to add my own. Yeah, spend two things
too eventually, so.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Your visionary and yeah, you remember chad Ocho Cinco. Yes,
one time he said he had this. He just reminded
me of the he had this injury and he said
he was ready to play because he was able to
do certain sexual actually wasn't able to do when he
was injured. And I said, oh, o Cho Cinko has
been doing sasnave.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Sixty nine. I know that one. I have a Latin
the fiance, so I know that one. My bad, Sorry, No,
I what was this?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Now? I I did subthing political. Well, it wasn't really political.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It was just that I do a lot of political.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I heard that, and you know, Colbert went to town on this.
Remember the Trump administration was writing cowboy porn? Is you
about that?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
No, you're writing cowboy porn.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
You've written a long time. But he was showing it
to his co workers. Now, I don't see what the
big deal here is because I'm a Dallas fan, so
I've been watching cowboys suck for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Jesus Christ, Well, you won't like.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
The alternate I did Tuesday night. I did that joke
at Brooktown went over real well. But now later on
that night I met Othellows and I'm in an OU crowd.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh yeah, so what I said was liberal. Well know
what I said was they, oh more cowboy fans than anything.
OU fans are cowboy fans.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Well, no, what I said was I said, Well, I said,
I said, if they wanted to see cowboys suck, they
go to Stillwater. That got applause and laughter in that crowd.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Well deserved.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Mike Gundy. He should go to Penn State or something
when he had a chance. When Joe Paterno got fired,
it was the headline in Oklahoma and they said, if
Penn State calls, will Gundy listen? And I could just
see him up there after the Sandusky scan. I just
see him after going normal.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Less kids bless me.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm a man, I'm foard of you.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, God, Kelly, do you have any shows coming up?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I have nothing on the schedule right now, because the
only thing I ever get a schedule is when you
sign up for Bricktown and they put you.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Is that still online and stuff?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Or yeah, you sign up on the line at the
beginning of the month, and then and then they at
the end of the month, they show you the lineup
for the next month. I did. I did a schedule
before his last night and Bricktown and that's the only
one for this month. And I did the Lucky bucket
the night before okay, and uh, they're doing a Lucky
bucket okay on Tuesday nights anymore. Lately, I've been going
(44:11):
to Othellows a lot, and almost like for a while
I had it all structured out where I would try
out new stuffing them tonight. No, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I don't I brought you out just to do this.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
That's right, you do what I thought first, I was
gonna be going to Stillwater. You don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I'm not gonna make people drives and still.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well out there which are willing to do.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Tulsa is gonna have to drive further now.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I but anyway, where was I? Oh, what I would
do is I would try stuff out at Othello's and
at the workshop here, and I would either do my
a game or that other stuff once if once I'm
convinced it's good, at the open mic here, at the
open mic at Bricktown. Now I'm just kind of screwing around,
(44:59):
but that was my strategy originally. I get it, but
I was I mean, I was so excited about that
cowboy porn joke, and I just knew it was one
of the few times that I have money of a
joke and laughed at it when I made it.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Well, you made it. There's a few of those that
I've done myself. So sometimes I love it.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Sometimes I just amuse myself.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You know, I'm still writing myself. I need to get
back on stage, start doing it more often. I just
I've got two kids, now, how many too? Yeah, I've
got a daughter and a son, so totally. Son is
a year and a half. Daughter is like four or
five months.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
So wow. Yeah, yes, I remember those days. Oh yeah,
these have changed those since I was Something called Honest diapers.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
No, I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
They are biodegradable diapers. They call them Honest diapers, which
is a weird brand name. I'm like all new diapers,
honest right. The ones are full of ship. I did
get some of those Hebrew National Kosher hot dogs when
I was at the store.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
All the wieners were circumcised.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
God damn it. Ladies and gentlemen, doctor k.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
The often imitated, never duplicated, and sometimes constipated.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Thank you for coming on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Hey, I enjoyed this.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I I and I enjoyed it too. This is fun. Yeah,
we're gonna have to do it again for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah. I like being interviewed.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, you can talk for a while. I can
tell so I I definitely want you back on and
we'll definitely.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Absolutely I'll let you see if I can make it
all right.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Everybody, We love you, see you next time. Goodbye, goodbye?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh well.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
R Hello, Mark Trotter, how are you?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I'm good, How are you good? Welcome to the Healing
Cast with a toy Freeman.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
What's going on there? How do you do it good?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
How are you good? Hello? Marty? Oh hey, buddy, what's
up man? How are you doing? Next? How are you doing?
What's your real name? What's your government name? That is
my first question. I'm just gonna go right off the
bat and just JJ wood. What's up? Longtime listener, first
time guest. I'm excited to be here. All have headphones
(47:34):
now you get yeah? Great, guy Healey? What year were
you born? Ninety seven? Ninety six? See al Right, technically
you're a nineties baby, but you missed half of it.
We're going, we're going, we're going wrong. Now we're growing. Hey, Kelly,
welcome to the Heey Cast. I want to start out
to and just admit the material you sent me I
did not have time to read because certain things in
the news happened and I got sidetracked.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All the assassination, Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The assassination and everything. Rip. Prayers go out to his
family as well. Getting past that, what I know of
you is you are a native Oklahoma comedian. Well, but
you also went to New York City just recently. And
(00:47):
that's really why I brought you in today is nine
eleven guys.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, and I noticed that I didn't. But first of all,
I was not a native of Oklahoma until Roe V.
Way was overturned. Okay, because my mother was pregnant with
me when the family moved to Missouri, I was born there,
so so for a long time I was a native
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of Missouri until he overturned Way.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But yes, I spent two years working on my craft
in New York. I was living in New Jersey, New York,
or that area as a Hillside, which is a suburb
of Newark. And I did that for two reasons. One,
I didn't want to pay rent in New York and
the other one I didn't want to drive there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Take the subway.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Oh yeah, exactly, you know I would Driving in New
Jersey is hard enough. I mean this first time in
my life I ever gave somebody the finger while driving
to church.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So that subway system that's in Manhattan, New York area
that goes into Jersey as well.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, no, I'd have to either. There was a I
eventually learned that there was a bus about two blocks
from where I was living that would get me to
Port of Thority Bus terminal about thirty to thirty five minutes,
only cost six dollars non stop. It was non stop
too nice, comfortable bus, and so from Port to Thorny
(02:20):
bus terminal, I would take the subway wherever I needed
to go. Before I found out about that, I would
have to drive to the Elizabeth train station in Elizabeth,
New Jersey Park there didn't take a train to Penn
station and get on the subway there, and that took
longer and substitute teaching in New York because the first
(02:45):
of those buses authority didn't leave to like six thirty.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't mean to err up try to get that
mica a little closer to you're You're perfectly allowed to touch it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And okay, all right, well you know I don't you know,
I was just looking at tracking stereo. Okay, I was trying.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was just tracking your voice. You you sounded fine
on the board and everything, but I want to capture
everything you're saying as well. So yeah, but uh, substitute teacher.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah. And some some of the assignments were either early
enough or far enough away to where I couldn't make
it on time if I took that six thirty bus,
So I would have to leave five something and get
on the train, take that bus to Lizabeth train station,
get on the train from there. I'm too old for
that thirty a two hour commute, get up at four
(03:35):
four point thirty to substitute teacher. But you know, and
the students were like young enough to be my grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, how are you?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh you're not too old.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But no, but I you know, I would so touch.
I'd tell them to get on the Florida Indian style
and they'd all put on headsets. Uh. You know, they
start fixing each other's laptops. You know, one kid sat
at my desk and rang a balance and check out
some dude. You know. So I was like no, no, no,
(04:09):
Indian style like Native American style, and they started dealing cards.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh Jesus. When you were in New York for the
two years, well New Jersey, but you did comedy in
New York? What clubs were your? Was a dangerfield still
around or was it done?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well? They closed for a while, then they reopened his
rodneys and I did one or two open mics there.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
There's Gotham as well.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Gotham. I did some open mics there. In fact, yeah,
that kind of funny story behind that. When I was
a professor in Alabama, Uh, this is back and around.
Would you teach sports management?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I had I was living in death, the Alabama
suburb of Mobile, but I had a girlfriend in Medford,
New Jersey. Uh that's a long story. But anyway, one
morning she goes into her kitchen on a Wednesday morning
and she sees a baby bat in her sink, floating
(05:20):
in the dishwater with the dishes. That freaked her out,
but she thought the bat was dead, so she saw
it in the trash can and Sunday morning she went
out to add more trash in the trash can and
found out that the bat was still alive. So that
kind of freaked her out. Oh so uh, first I
was being the sympathetic boyfriend. Oh I'm sorry to answer
(05:40):
that happened to you and all of that. Right then
IFTER got off the phone. I got a little unry.
I started seeing these pictures of batman, man, bat bat
woman and all of this. And then I go to church.
I arrived early, and I get a call on my cellphone.
She goes, you send me more bat stuff. I'm gonna
kick your ass. And so I had already been thinking
(06:02):
about doing this fake ten day vacation where I would
go to Oklahoma and see my family and go to
New Jersey and see her, and you know what, I
would fly from Mobile to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City to Philadelphia,
Philadelphia back to Oklahoma City. And I had just done
a lot, well, well, I just done a stand up
(06:24):
routine at at my church at talent show they were having.
And I'd been out of comedy for a long time,
you know, almost twenty years. And I listened to recording.
I thought, you know, my marriage had just broken up.
I thought, I can't do this again. So I went
(06:45):
through the internet, I ran into I ran across Jessica Curson. Okay, yeah,
she wasn't famous yet, right, But she told me about
a mic at the Gotham Comedy Club that I could
do while I was out in Jersey. And so instead
of just you know, telling Nancy, Hey, I'm gonna do
a little stand up while I'm out there visiting you,
(07:06):
I just fordered her the email exchange between me and
Jessica Curson. And she thought I was making another bat
joke because it was a Gotham comedy club. I didn't.
I was a batman nerd wise kid. I didn't even
think about that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's hilarious. There was there's Gotham. Dangerfields was out there,
and then you have the Seller. Did you hit the
Seller ever? I think I might have.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah, that was that woman was talking about kids
that are vape who've never smoked start vaping, and so
that was like taking methadone when you've never done heroin,
like she said. But I think I remember do the
Seller the West Side Comedy Club.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
There's a Boston comedy club in New York. Isn't there
or heard of that? Okay, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And I auditioned for the Amateur Night at the Apollo Theater.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, that's right, the Apollos there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, and I did some background acting and I got
to be on my favorite TV show, Batman. No went
off the air when I was three years old. Anyway, No,
my favorite TV with Adam West. Yeah, that went off
to here when I was three years old. But anyway,
I heard a TV show Blue Bloods. Oh and you know,
(08:27):
and I went to four episodes. I was like a
kid on a field trip. It was or first time.
It was like like I was six years old ago
in my first Dallas Cowboy game. Second time, I was
like a fourth grader on a field trip. It was
really cool. So many people involved in making of a
TV show, and I was able to see myself in
(08:47):
one of the four episodes I was there for. So
I was getting my fifteen minutes of fame four seconds
at a time. And but it was a great experience.
Donnie Walberg actually said to me.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That's actually really cool. That's really cool a Wallburg recognizing you,
or at least saying hi. That's cool. Yeah, the Wallburgs
are big. I like the Wallburgs, like I haven't had
their burgers? Have you tried their.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
There's so many things I should have done. It's almost
like I was afraid to have fun. I'm like, I'm
here on business, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But Oklahoma City is on a glow up with their
restaurants and everything. But well, I've noticed with Dallas they're
on a real big kind of scale. Like, have you
been to Dallas lately?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So there's a place I can't remember what Mala is,
but there's a place called Italy and it's a whole
two story or three story Italy grocery store where it
has the big wheels of cheese from Italy. Did it's
it's honestly, I made a trip just to go there.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah. Those Italian dudes.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Italian dudes love Italian food. I love just Italians are
just oh I.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Love Italian food. Now. Italian guys, they they are so
passionate that when they take viagra, they become attracted to
both sexes. It makes the day go by.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh yeah, they go they go by. I get it,
I get it, I get it. That's hilarious. Hold on,
I got.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Dead.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Air is always nice. Oh yeah, I'm trying to do
a podcast and send something.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To well while he's doing that, folks, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Go ahead, man, promote what you've got going on here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Car dealers are all going to hell.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's probably not wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
They keep selling their souls. Yeah, and there's Tontos and
the spectrums. I wanted to get a jep Grand Cherokee,
but I couldn't get one.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Toyota had Toyotas are good.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I had to set up for a jeep Grand Caucasian.
I called it my grand Cracker. Uh, it's part of Cherokee.
But I can't prove it, you.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Know, just like Elizabeth Warren. What Elizabeth Warren?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh yeah, you know, it's not on the rolls. I
have to find another way to put it through.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Carlo's one sixty second Cherokee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was supposed to be like three thirty seconds Cherokee is well,
my dad always told.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Me I am nothing. I'm not even American. I'm Romanian.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Romanian yeah oh wow, yeah, like naughty, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I've got I've got like
one point I want to say, like fourteen percent Italian,
I've got Ukrainian, Russian. I mean the majority is like Greek,
the majority is ninety three percent Romanian. Like I'm Romanian,
but my ancestors have been all over, Like there's point
(12:02):
four percent African. You know, that wasn't a happy marriage.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I definitely can't see that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, no, no, it's just I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Part Irish and part French. So when I go into
a bar, I pick a fight and then surrender.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Ah. I just listened to the Charlie Sheen and Joe
Rogan podcast on my way here and Charlie said he
met Rodney Dangerfield just you know, bringing up the Dangerfield thing,
and he said, uh, he and Rodney went out to
party and Rodney's like, uh, where are you? You know
(12:38):
what what ethnicity are you?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And he's like, I'm Spanish and Irish And he's like,
so half of you likes to throw a parade and
the other half doesn't or one half, no, doesn't know
whether to throw a parade and the other half doesn't
know whether to go to war. Like Jesus Christ, Oh
my gosh, who's your favorite comedian?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I need to start asking more comedians who their favorite
comedians are. And I'll ask you, like two you you
have two comedians, so like of all time like they're
dead or even a live still or and now like
right now trending. Who do you think has what.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Early influences were Johnny Carson's, Steven Wright, Steve Martin, weird
Al is very Argus Hamilton. Okay, well I've opened for
twice and.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I think my dad has a story about excuse me,
meaning weird Al Yankovic's brother in a Minnesota bar. Okay,
And like I can't remember what the whole story is.
I'll have to have my dad tell it sometime. But
like he was just wearing up and down, and I
guess he was getting free drinks because of it and stuff,
(13:56):
and he did look sort of like weird now like.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Johnny since said weird Al's brother was normal was an
insurance salesman named normal Dave Yankoby uh uh but uh
currently j Leto was on early influence of mine. But
I really really one of my favorites as far as watching.
Uh currently, I think Greg Morton is the funniest man
(14:21):
in North America. You know who that is?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't, yeah, And I mean, what say the name Greg,
Greg Morton Morton? And you know, I know Jim Norton.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
You see him on TV and he's funny, but if
you see it in person, he just he just kills you.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, well while you're looking him up. He is a
semi finalist on America's Got Talent. He headlines several times
since the LINI been in Oklahoma City. That's where I
met him. I've got to know him pretty well. He
lives in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Uh black.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, he's a light skinned black guy with glasses and
buck teeth. This is sound effect, Yeah he does. He
did a lot of sound effects. Is cartoon voices. America's
gotta tell that's.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Him, Okay, Yeah, and he'll post pictures for you guys
and you'll see him. Yeah, And uh, I need to
get TV in here, so not to interrupt you. I
I think I'm gonna have a group of guys come
in kind of like you listen, Joe Rogan never know.
So he has a group of buddies called protect Our
(15:30):
Parks with Shane Gillis, Mark Norman and Ari Shaffir and
they all come in. They get blasted and talks conspiracies
and it's a silly pot it's not to be taken seriously.
And they do history. It's all over the board, and
I've gotten I've picked three comedians out of the scene
right now to do a podcast every once in a while,
(15:50):
and it's gonna be on Saturdays, so we're gonna watch
a football game or watch a sports event while we're
doing the podcast. That or like a Fight Companion Joe
Rogan Fight Companion.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
As well, a little bit of a Manning cast.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I haven't seen Manning cast. What is Manning Cast is.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That ESPN does it on one of their alternate channels
during Monday Night. I don't want to get sued, so
you know, no, no what to do on Monday night football.
You'll have Peyton and Eli Manning. I think they might
have Cooper on there too, and they'll have a special
celebrity guest and they'll watch a game live and comment
on it while it was showing it on the TV.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That's cool, So kind of like in a living room
setting or they like.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, okay, like a living room type of setting.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I thought I'll have to talk to Aaron, but I
figured if I could bring a TV in here with
a stand and maybe put under the camera or whatnot,
and capture as much camera time as we can and
then eventually have to go to audio because I only
have a certain amount of time on camera, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Or I could bring I guess
I could bring a backup. I should probably start to.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Have the legality of well.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, the only thing the That's what I've thought too,
the legality of.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
A production retransmission rather use of this broadcast.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
We're not going to so the board could possibly I
could connect the board to the TV, but I think
what I'm going to do is have the TV as
a background so you're not gonna necessarily hear it, and
then you and I would be talking over it. And
the whole idea is we're getting drank, have fun, talk
about the game here and there, but it's not necessarily focused.
(17:39):
It's just to have fun, you know. It's a I
think it's for me. I haven't even told the guys this,
but I think it's more of a mental health thing
for men as well, because I think once in a
while men need that kind of day or night where
guys just hang out and let loose. And I get it,
(18:00):
we're recording, we're on camera and everything back at the
same time, it's content, you know what I mean. Hey,
you're holding your diet. Co cheers, buddy, Thank you for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Thank you. You know. The three truest things ever said about me,
this ties into what you're talking about. One when I
was eleven years old and my mother told me that
all I think about is what Kelly wants to say.
She she recently apologized to that. I don't apologize.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Oh your mother is still alive. Yeah, yeah, God bless God.
He's eighty six. God bless my grandmother. She died at
eighty eight, So God bless.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Hey, that wasn't that's not foreshadowing, that's not you know,
but I was just saying, God, like, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That'sing is when I became. When I first started teaching
at the United States Sports Academy, my first wife said
he enjoys imparting his sports knowledge on people.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Why do you have a first wife? How many? Why
have you had too?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Hey yeah it's uh then better than the president.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I'm not my third wife wife, third.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Wife is coming up soon now, guy, lady, you see
you single?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
God? Okay. The third truth me was when I was working.
I had this job and one of my coworkers was
selling something for a fundraiser or something, and she goes,
I think I'll go to my uncle's liquor store and
sell it to some of my wino friends. And I
started going all my wine, our friends, I have said,
(19:37):
all down, and she goes, Kelly, you've got singing in comedy.
Tourette's the three truest things said about Let me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
We got off to the silly start, and I love
it and everything. Let me get a little serious with you.
I want to dive a little deep into you. I
want to get to know you. I want everything. No,
you said you were from Missouri, where you're born and
born there.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, I was born there, but we I was like
a year old when we moved back to Oklahoma, so
I have no red.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So you were born in Missouri. I believe my mom
was also born in Missouri, but she was raised in
New Kirk, Oklahoma. I think she was born in like
Springfield or something in Illinois or not Illinois, Missouri, but
lives in lived in Newkirk, so most of your life. Well,
(20:36):
I'm getting you only lived in Missouri abal a year
moved here. I'm trying to when did you start comedy?
Because we went you kind of went over your young
age with your mother and everything. It wasn't it's specifically detailed,
but like I generally, I I generally have comedians on
to get to know them, to get their public get
(20:58):
give them publicity as much as possible. I don't have
a lot of fucking people that listen or whatnot, but
I try.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You know, well, my my first and up, my first
comedy club performance was April first, nineteen eighty five. I
was nineteen, okay, I was gonna say twenty so okay, okay,
I was a jokers and uh.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
What's jokers? Is that here in Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That was a comedy club at Oaklub's the first comedy
club at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay. And where was that located, if you don't mind me.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Sixty third north of Succeressway.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, okay, so close to where Looney Ben used to
be a couple of miles a couple of months, Okay, Okay,
I'm just trying to get in my head. I'm just
trying to Ellen.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
De Generes open for Augus Hamilton there. Back in the
eighties before Ellen was say that again, I saw Ellen
Degeneroes open for Argus Hamilton there. Yeah, thirty years later,
I got to open for Argus Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, Argus. I was gonna say, part Ellen, that'd be
crazy if you opened for Ellen.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
No. Actually I tell people that I interviewed for the
announcer job there and when we did a test dialogue
and she said, you're a good straight man, Kelly, and
I said, well, thank you, Ellen, you're good lesbian. That
didn't happen. I never, but anyway we were talking. I was.
I was in comedy for about four four years, and
then I was inactive for a long time when.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You did comedy up to twenty three, twenty four, because
you were nineteen when you started.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I was, I was.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm trying to keep track. I'm sorry. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I was inactive for a long time when I was
a pow preserve War Preserve wife. Uh, you know I
still have PTSD, you know, post traumatic Suzanne disorder.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Suzanna Jesus sounds like a TV show. You can, you
could make a show. Suzanne.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
His name was my first wife of twenty years. She
had IBS irritable broad syndrome AH, and she filed for
divorce on Martin Luther King Day, And all I could
say was free and last, free and last.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I got on by free last. We're gonna have a
Charlie Kirk day.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Eventually, Oh gosh, I'm just kidding. Of course all the
day after. Of course, for a while I kind of
missed the sex. I have a wet dream.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You're a funny man. You know that you joke around
a lot, and I love it. I love the energy
I do. I didn't expect it from you. Yeah, you're
a doctor.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I have a doctorate in sports management.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Did you ever? Uh? So sports management? That's agency and everything.
Is it medical?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Basically? It's like a general kind of getting your NBA
on ESPN. Really, but it's h what the school was
set up? Basically?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
How before you explained? Just just real quick, I apologize
for interrupting. What did you use your degree? Like? Did
you use it? Use it? Or?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
A few years ago? I was first base coach for
a t ball team. Okay, there saying, oh grandchild, my
second wife's great grands had two great grandsons on a
t ball team. She was the coach. I was the
first base coach. Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Anyways, do you not have any kids of your own?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I have one, she's thirty six.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, she is a graduate of New York University. Before
she went there, though, she was homeschooled by her mother.
So you know, who wouldn't be an honor student if
their dad slept with a teacher. I'm just kidding. I
mean I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I didn't. I get what you're saying, though, I get it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Uh. Anyway back to so basically the school started out
the United States Sports Academy started out, and coaches and
everything would go and go there in the summer and
work on their masters. They get their masters, they work
for a school, so they get automatic pay raise. You know,
forget I because they worked for a school to get
a master's degree, so they had no problem pay off
(25:03):
their student loans. That helps you accreditation. I thought I
could make some sort of career out of that or
just I don't know, but I stayed around and got
my doctorate. Before I studied accounting, I thought an asset
was a female donkey.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know what what was when you chose that degree?
What was the main plan. I'm just I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Not taking a nap when I'm finished.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, did you plan on doing agency work? Well? No,
because that's what it sounds like. Sports management sounds like agency.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Workers only have a clearer goal on it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean, I so you just went to college to
I apologize if this sounds offensive to kind of fuck around, no.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Because no, I did that at OU. But anyway, I
got my backelors at UCO when I was twenty six,
you know.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But anyway, I'm not trying to be really because I
was just I was. I'm genuinely curious about your.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Degree very hard, with no particular direction. But I did
my master's intership with the Aloha Bowl and the Deep
Aloha Bowl, Alahu Bowl doubleheader bowl games Hawaii. And I
did my doctoral mentorship with Chick fil A Peach Bowl.
I did my dissertation on bowl games, and.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
The dissertation is like your final paper, right right. Sorry,
I didn't complete college. I went to I basically almost
got my associates. I didn't complete my associates. And if
I go back, I'm honestly considering going back. Sorry for
interrupting again. I think I want to go back for
broadcasting in journalism, to be honest, I mean, what just
recently happened. I don't know if I'd go into that
(26:38):
type of journalism, you know, maybe more sports journalism and
actually do something with it. But my fiance recently, she
well not recently, but last night told me when I
do my podcast, I put on a persona or bring
on different personas, and I need to start bringing my
own voice to this broadcast. This everything I do, because
(27:02):
I mean, this is my baby, this is my number
one show. I have another show that is in development
with Brandon Killer. We're still trying to work out things
because he's got a busy schedule. So but she told me,
I bring on personas. So my whole thought process is
I need to be more. Uh it looks like I
have a persona on right now with this nice clothing,
(27:24):
But like, I want to dress appropriate for the position
I want to be in, and that's not necessarily a CEO.
I want to be just the owner. I get, I
guess it is CEO, but I want to be the
owner of my entertainment production which my podcast falls under,
which is called Heally Entertainment.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
So like interesting, and I'm sorry that we got off
the track nineteen eighty one. When around nineteen eighty I
guess when Hayden Fry took over his head football coach
University of Iowa. And this was that time period when
the Pittsburgh Steelers has won four Super Bowls in six
years and Iowa wore black and gold. He made a
(28:07):
powerhouse out of Iowa.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Theyny want to go to defensive wise?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Or am I thinking of the coach? Now? Who's the coach?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Right? I can't remember his name now, but anyway, he
getting me confused to where they looked just like the
Pittsburgh Steelers uniforms. And he said, if they're gonna be winners,
they gotta look like winners. And to this day they
have this Pittsburgh Steelers style uniforms they do so you know,
I guess. And so there's something to what you say
about looking the part.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, definitely. I mean, this isn't gonna be my every
podcast attire. I'm I'm I'm gonna look a little different,
but I think I need to start looking more professional,
start acting more professional. I need to. I told you
ahead of time that I didn't you sent me information
about you and just what has happened this week, I
didn't get to dive into it, and I apologize about that.
(28:59):
And and just to let you know, we're only thirty
minutes in and I already know I want you back on.
You so I will have you back on for sure. Yeah,
we have I want you back on for sure already.
I'm not wrapping things up. I just want you to
know that, Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Okay, I got plenty of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, that's that's why I want you back on, because
you have a mind full of just things to say,
and that's awesome. And bringing back my fiance, she she
told me, uh, find my voice, and she she really
doesn't want to be that. She doesn't want to be
part of that political world where I step out and
(29:40):
bring out my voice on my political views, which I
have on this podcast. I'm very I'm very outward on
my political views. I'm not shy about it. Just what
I saw on your face, Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Absolutely, I'm like economically conservative and socially liberal.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I want to today's atmosphere. I only even call myself conservative.
I'm more of a constitutionalist.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That's there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And the thing about that is the minute I became
I know the minute when I became a constitutionalist, and
it was through a Joe Rogan joke. Joe Rogan was
talking about how our founding fathers built the Constitution and
the amendments, and you know, and we only have twenty seven.
And you know, he's like, if our founding fathers were
here today, they'd be like, you, guys, stopped. This is
(30:34):
a living document. You're supposed to continue adding to it.
So that's that's why I'm a more of a constitutionalist,
like I think, and how divided and biased everything is now,
it's almost damn near impossible to amend an amendment, now,
you know what I mean. So yeah, it's just you
have to the last time. We am sorry for cutting
you off one more time. The last time we amended
(30:55):
an amendment was in nineteen ninety two, over thirty years ago.
Amended an amendment when we created an amendment in nine.
Twenty seventh amendment came in twenty and and that was
a pay raise. It was a pay raise for Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I didn't know that was with the Constitution. I don't
think there'd been an amendment in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The twenty seventh Amendment, also known as the Congressional Compensation
Act of seventeen eighty nine, prevents law changing congressional salaries
from effect until after the next House of Representatives' election.
It was originally proposed in seventeen eighty nine, but wasn't
(31:44):
ratified until nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh so, in other words, if Congress passes a pay raise,
it doesn't take effect until the next session. Yes, okay,
that makes sense. Kind of like Henry Bellman. It used
to be the governor of Oklahoma could never see himself.
They could only serve one term. Really, when Henry Belman
was governor, he got he signed a bill that said
(32:08):
the governor could succeed himself, but it wouldn't take effect
until the next term, so he couldn't succeed himself. So
Deuey Bartley succeeded.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Him and and then he could run again.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, then Bartlett chose to run for the Senate and said, so,
no governor succeeded himself until George and I. I. However, Belman
came back years later and ran for another term as
government won.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, in fact, we had to say, Oklahoma is the
same governor when I was born and when my first
wife was born as it did when our daughter was born.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That sounds like corruption almost.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, no, he just said two terms that they were
just way far apart he served two terms. It shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I guess it's not corruption. It should be nowadays we
just have back to back governor, right because.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
We've had we've had some. I think Mary Fallon.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Has had eight? Did she have eight?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Eight years?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And I think uh Stitt had its state? Had Stt
had eight?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Or have it on the second term?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And who was before Mary Fallon? It was a Democrat? Right,
Henry Henry, Brad Henry, Brad Henry.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And before that did he do eight? I can't, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think, I wait, wait, where were you out of
state during Brad Henry?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Probably Alabama?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Brad Henry served from two thousand and three to twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, that was in Alabama off and on from nineteen
ninety eight to two thousand and eleven. Because I showed
on the faculty at I says for six years after
I got my doctorate. Okay, yeah, A million stories go
with that. We gave an honorary doctor to pat Summit.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Really, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It was really cool. She first of all the weekend
before we did this.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That's what I'm talking about. You got these stories, man?
You when I get better equipment, I'm getting sorry for interrupting.
I keep cutting you off, and I apologize, and my
even my listeners and viewers and have made comments about, hey,
you cut off your your your people. Anyways, continue to
keep it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So the weekend before we did this, my mother stopped
buy on her way to Tampa to come visit me,
and I said, we're giving an honorary doctor to Pat Summit.
And she said, why not give one to Sherry Cole.
She's prettier. And I said, well, if she wins a
thousand games, we might give her one. She goes, oh,
she may not be so pretty then. So anyway, so
(34:47):
we do this press conference Pat seventh. Uh. First of all,
she said that she tells her her players to avoid
the three p's, parents, peers, and the press. And I
don't know, sometimes a joke just pops out me. I
can't stop it, I said, and the police. And so
she had also said that God her lawyer had told
(35:09):
her that he could get her an NBA coaching job,
but she felt like it was recalling in life to
coach women. And so during the reception afterwards, after her ceremony,
we had a reception and I said, coach Summit, can
you name a woman who you think would be a
good NBA coach. Yeah, but this time she's already pegging
me as a jokes because what I said in the
(35:30):
press conference, if you ever seen that ESPN courcially, do
you see the demeanor she reacts to that. But anyway,
she goes, let me think about that for a couple
of minutes. So she walks away. A couple of minutes later,
she walks up to me and she says, I thought
a bunch of question and I just couldn't think of
any woman who's as mean as I am. And I said,
you haven't met Mike's wife.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Jesus correct.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So that was that was a good experience. Oh jeez,
this they got a good picture of me building a
diet coke while standing next to her, too, and another
one me shaking hands when we both got our caps.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
And golly, you know who you remind me of? You
remind me of Al Ashback.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's whom when I was sixteen years old, I would
do the impressions of Alashback covering the Salem witchcraft trial.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Now where are you today? Oh you know, jam, I'm
here at here in the studio, I'm here out with adds.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Good light afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
This is al Ashback, you know, King of the Midgets.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Well, I uh, we were reading the Crucible in English class,
and so I got thinking, what if al Ashback had
covered the Salem witchcraft trials. I'm like this. Back when
I was on kt OK, I was like, good light afternoon, everybody.
This is Al Ashback live from Salem, Massachusetts kt OK
whitch talk. But first let's check the weather or another injustice.
(36:57):
It's two degrees. Woman in Winston, Massachusett is said, isn't Salem.
I'm going to write a letter, I promise you. And so,
from what I understand, John Proctor is going to confess
to forantication in the court day. He said so after
calling his mistress Abigail van Buren. I'm not Abigail Williams
(37:18):
a mad murderous which oh I love a good hate
that's like good. And if you've got some good wicked
hate to confess to, just give us a call eight
four or one thousand, eight four, one thousand Jesus great.
But I've come to this conclusion that listening to sports
talk radio can contribute to divorce, tax problems.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Gambling issues.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Well, no tax problems, I'm talking about me low testosterone
and a rectile dysfunction. And I say this because when
you listen to sports talk radio stations, half the commercials
are for divorce lawyers, tax lawyers as products a treat
low testosterone rectile dysfunction, and how to get out of
(38:03):
the timeshare agreement.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
And or how to get into one.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah. Well, it got to the point to where, for
a while Al's show was title sponsor was Parkridge Medical Clinic.
And when Al says that in his thick New Jersey accident,
it sounds like he was saying Partridge like Partridge Partridge
Medical Clinic. So I'm thinking the Partridge family has its
own men's health clinic. Hello world, that's lacking in affection.
(38:31):
Come on, get happy. We can get help you get
in erection.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I listened to the Morning Animals.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
More, and I believe you happy.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I believe I booked one of them for this podcast.
Oh really yeah yeah yeah, So that's that's that's exciting.
I just have to find the a Saturday that suits them.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah yeah, come on in and help you get to
help you in a jiffy. Don't forget to bring your
health insurance card. Come on in and we'll help you
get a Like you get it easier when you get hard.
You know, stop on by and you'll never be a loader.
(39:11):
Come on, get happy, stop on by. It will help
you get a boner, will make you happy, will make
you happy. You have singing in comedy.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Tourette's that, but you also just have the mind that's
so open to just do that kind of art. I
don't have that, Like I take my comedy from fucking events,
Like I have a Palestine joke, you know I have
I do. I do observational more jokes. You're You're a
(39:46):
lot more silly and loose, and I like that. Like
you make me forget about the issues in the world.
When I do comedy, everyone's like, oh fuck, Maybe he's right.
I gotta make people think.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I really don't get into issues either. I watched a
lot of Johnny Carson. Yeah, Johnny, think about Johnny Carson,
Jay Leno. You could tell they kind of had conservatives
leadings personally, but they really tried hard to make fun
of both sides.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah. I just heard same with Shane gillis Shane gill.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's kind of funny. He's on the SPS. He made
a joke about about Shae Gilders Alexander. Yeah. Two days
later he said, pay com, I'm thinking they should give
him a jersey with the number two ons just said,
Shane Gillis Alexander on it.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know it's awesome. Online. I saw a a Notre
Dame like game used jersey for sale for like twenty
five bucks. I was trying to buy it. I get
paid tomorrow. I was gonna get the uh it's number
like twenty or something, number twenty two or whatnot, and
I wanted to replace the numbers with sixty nine and
(40:49):
get the back with Gillis on the back, use it
as a prop and then until I went to a Gillis,
until I get to a Gillis show, I would take
it to Gillis, have him sign it, get it framed,
and that would be like the masterpiece behind me. When
I get my own podcast studio, like my permanent, I
want to make this the permanent, but also like I
(41:10):
do want to do my own studio as well, where
I have my own kind of because this is all
Aaron like. If you look into this this and I don't, Hey,
I have no issues with what he's done with the decor.
I love the decort and everything. It's just like I
also want to add my own. Yeah, spend two things
too eventually, so.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Your visionary and yeah, you remember chad Ocho Cinco. Yes,
one time he said he had this. He just reminded
me of the he had this injury and he said
he was ready to play because he was able to
do certain sexual actually wasn't able to do when he
was injured. And I said, oh, o Cho Cinko has
been doing sasnave.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Sixty nine. I know that one. I have a Latin
the fiance, so I know that one. My bad, Sorry, No,
I what was this?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Now? I I did subthing political. Well, it wasn't really political.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It was just that I do a lot of political.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I heard that, and you know, Colbert went to town on this.
Remember the Trump administration was writing cowboy porn? Is you
about that?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
No, you're writing cowboy porn.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
You've written a long time. But he was showing it
to his co workers. Now, I don't see what the
big deal here is because I'm a Dallas fan, so
I've been watching cowboys suck for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Jesus Christ, Well, you won't like.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
The alternate I did Tuesday night. I did that joke
at Brooktown went over real well. But now later on
that night I met Othellows and I'm in an OU crowd.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh yeah, so what I said was liberal. Well know
what I said was they, oh more cowboy fans than anything.
OU fans are cowboy fans.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Well, no, what I said was I said, Well, I said,
I said, if they wanted to see cowboys suck, they
go to Stillwater. That got applause and laughter in that crowd.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Well deserved.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Mike Gundy. He should go to Penn State or something
when he had a chance. When Joe Paterno got fired,
it was the headline in Oklahoma and they said, if
Penn State calls, will Gundy listen? And I could just
see him up there after the Sandusky scan. I just
see him after going normal.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Less kids bless me.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm a man, I'm foard of you.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, God, Kelly, do you have any shows coming up?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I have nothing on the schedule right now, because the
only thing I ever get a schedule is when you
sign up for Bricktown and they put you.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Is that still online and stuff?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Or yeah, you sign up on the line at the
beginning of the month, and then and then they at
the end of the month, they show you the lineup
for the next month. I did. I did a schedule
before his last night and Bricktown and that's the only
one for this month. And I did the Lucky bucket
the night before okay, and uh, they're doing a Lucky
bucket okay on Tuesday nights anymore. Lately, I've been going
(44:11):
to Othellows a lot, and almost like for a while
I had it all structured out where I would try
out new stuffing them tonight. No, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I don't I brought you out just to do this.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
That's right, you do what I thought first, I was
gonna be going to Stillwater. You don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I'm not gonna make people drives and still.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well out there which are willing to do.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Tulsa is gonna have to drive further now.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I but anyway, where was I? Oh, what I would
do is I would try stuff out at Othello's and
at the workshop here, and I would either do my
a game or that other stuff once if once I'm
convinced it's good, at the open mic here, at the
open mic at Bricktown. Now I'm just kind of screwing around,
(44:59):
but that was my strategy originally. I get it, but
I was I mean, I was so excited about that
cowboy porn joke, and I just knew it was one
of the few times that I have money of a
joke and laughed at it when I made it.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Well, you made it. There's a few of those that
I've done myself. So sometimes I love it.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Sometimes I just amuse myself.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You know, I'm still writing myself. I need to get
back on stage, start doing it more often. I just
I've got two kids, now, how many too? Yeah, I've
got a daughter and a son, so totally. Son is
a year and a half. Daughter is like four or
five months.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
So wow. Yeah, yes, I remember those days. Oh yeah,
these have changed those since I was Something called Honest diapers.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
No, I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
They are biodegradable diapers. They call them Honest diapers, which
is a weird brand name. I'm like all new diapers,
honest right. The ones are full of ship. I did
get some of those Hebrew National Kosher hot dogs when
I was at the store.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
All the wieners were circumcised.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
God damn it. Ladies and gentlemen, doctor k.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
The often imitated, never duplicated, and sometimes constipated.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Thank you for coming on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Hey, I enjoyed this.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I I and I enjoyed it too. This is fun. Yeah,
we're gonna have to do it again for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah. I like being interviewed.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, you can talk for a while. I can
tell so I I definitely want you back on and
we'll definitely.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Absolutely I'll let you see if I can make it
all right.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Everybody, We love you, see you next time. Goodbye, goodbye?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh well.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
R Hello, Mark Trotter, how are you?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I'm good, How are you good? Welcome to the Healing
Cast with a toy Freeman.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
What's going on there? How do you do it good?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
How are you good? Hello? Marty? Oh hey, buddy, what's
up man? How are you doing? Next? How are you doing?
What's your real name? What's your government name? That is
my first question. I'm just gonna go right off the
bat and just JJ wood. What's up? Longtime listener, first
time guest. I'm excited to be here. All have headphones
(47:34):
now you get yeah? Great, guy Healey? What year were
you born? Ninety seven? Ninety six? See al Right, technically
you're a nineties baby, but you missed half of it.
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