Episode #103 - Darrell Dougherty & Marquess Dennis! - TheHeleyCast

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up, guys.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to a new episode of The Healey Cast. I
am obviously in a new place, is not the familiar
podcast studio slash green room I have been shooting of.
We're taking a break from there, but to circle back
to where we are. We are in Marquise Dennis the
man right here podcast studio. Thank you for having us

(00:28):
and my actual guest that I've been wanting to talk
to due to what's going on in our own county
Daryl dot dough Tree Dougherty Doherty, Doughty's a dough Tree.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Thing that stuck in my head. I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
My bad Darrel.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Thanks sir.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm a little nervous now because I got your met
last name screwed up. We were, we rode up here,
we discussed a lot.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Let's go into this.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
You are a father, a businessman, a local in the community.
You're you're a big name. I know you pretty well,
so tell me what's been going on for you specifically.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Man, I don't know about a big name. I enjoy
still Water.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I've run businesses in still Water for over a quarter century.
I grew up there, graduated there, graduated Osu.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I love to give back.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I love kids, been mentoring young men in our community
for thirty years. Had the pleasure of working on some
projects with mister Dennis over here, and we've met a
lot of legislators and been to a lot of functions
and had some good food. And it's been a while.

(01:51):
So it's good to be back and see him again.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
And still to see you man, Glad to see you.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Hanka cool. I'll go no cans too.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I just realized everyone else was not wearing headphones.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Let's go no headphones.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Still. Water has been a little strange for me the
last couple of years because it's always been my hometown.
It's always been my home crowd. It's always been you know,
I sat on the city council there for a term,
and I try to try to think I'm, you know,
just one of the people in town that once to
enjoy everyone. And sometimes going to fight for kids means

(02:31):
you end up going to fight against some of the
systemic issues that hold back kids, hold back, dads, hold
back moms. Been fighting for kids for thirty years. Unfortunately,
in the last eleven and a half years, I've had
to fight one of my own children and that's been

(02:53):
probably the hardest thing I've ever dealt with as a
human being. I'm a Christian. My faith is the only
reason I'm still here today.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I was I was going to ask you, like you've
been through a lot almost I compare you as don't
take this as insult. This is supposed to be funny.
A dollar general Trump.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
General Trump, Let's go, I don't even know fantastic.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
You're you're being you're being attacked, you know, or you're
being you're you're you're not getting a fair shake at
things from what we've talked about on the way here
and everything and well key and the audio, the listeners
and the viewers as well on what we talked about
on the way here.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
But why I compare you to.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't like mention his name too much because it's
a controversial name, but because both of you have been attacked,
both of you are have gone through turbuation, and you
are currently still going through turbulations. And I'm praying for you,
and I hope everything comes out successful like it did
with Donnie. You're not running for president, obviously, but I

(04:12):
just I want you to be happy, family, happy, son, safe.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Specifically, Yeah, yeah, No, I just want to be a
dad and a husband. I have a amazing wife. She
holds she's a glue, she holds it together. She is
a caregiver and provider for our family. She well clearly
had to hold things down while I was in jail twice,
while I spend all this time in court over the

(04:37):
last few years when it was in court, but it
might have been the capitol, right, might have been the
governor's mansion, or speaking at a legislative hearing.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Or you know.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
But she's holds it together and also holds full time job.
I'm very blessed with my wife, cher because she's awesome.
And then I have the foremost amazing little boys on
the planet.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's crazy. Four boys, girl.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
No girls, four boys, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
My big man's eleven and a half. He's the one
I'm going to war for right now. And then I
have a five year old who is full of energy
and fun and personality and jokes. And then I got
these twin boys that are three. One of them is
loving and wrestle and and uh. The other one is

(05:26):
kind of mischievous and sneaky and smart. They all have
their own little personalities and we loved a rough house
and play and right now it's pretty tough because we
haven't gotten to see my my big man in a
couple of weeks, and that's strange and not right. And

(05:47):
got to get that fixed sooner than later.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Absolutely, absolutely, Let's let's catch up our listeners and viewers
on what we discussed on the way here. What you've
what even kind of started this? You were in so
you've been doing trying to I don't want to say rescue,
but help kids and adults that are single or misrepresented, misrepresented, misrepresented, misrepresented,

(06:22):
thank you? Okay, misrepresented, And now I forgot my train
of thout.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
But you were talking.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
About for thirty years you've been in that kind of
service as well.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, Yeah, No, early on it was more of mentorship,
going intorship.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, working with young men through big brothers, big sisters,
through church, you know, through groups, through hunting, fishing, hiking, camping.
I have been blessed to be a dad a little
later in life, so I had quite a few years
where I was able to invest my resources in other
kids in the community, my time and energy, you know.

(07:01):
Now now I have to focus more on my home.
But yeah, but then when you find out that the
reason these kids are struggling is because they don't have
a dad in a home, right, and then you resent
that dad for not being in the home. And then
you realize that that dad resents not being in the
home with the kid and it wasn't his choice. Then

(07:21):
you realize the best thing you can do for that
kid is fear out how to help one or the
other of both of those parents have the best influence
on that kid's life you can have. And that's where
you have the good fortune runn into people like Marquise
who kind of thinks the same way and wants to
encourage dads to have more opportunity to be around their kids.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
You can't handle the truth. I've never done sound effects
through my podcast.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I love that, you know, it was just right that.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
That is perfect?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Is that what we do? Is that what you do?
Oh yeah, I go through there, man. I mean it's
and that's the root.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
I mean, do you want push dads have better opportunity
to be around their kids?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh yeah, so kids are gonna do better. I mean
that's the whole purpose of parenting. Like, it's unfortunate that
we have monetized you know, parental units. You know, we've
it's it's almost as disgusting as monetizing water. You know.
One of the things that people just have not really

(08:28):
paid attention to over the last thirty some odd years
is do you know what this is? Like one of
the only countries where they charge us for stuff that
grows out of the ground, you know what I mean? Like,
there's nowhere in Oklahoma that I know of where you
can go to a neighborhood and find pears and oranges

(08:50):
and pecans and stuff like we used to when we
were kids.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Very common in the Middle East that like streets in
the villages and stuff. Yeah, just have fruit trees.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, no, it's common everywhere in the world.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I didn't realize it was common everywhere else in the world.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
What happened was is, over a period of time, they
sold this idea of convenience. They say, hey, you know,
nobody really wants to cut their yard with a bunch
of pears or a bunch of fruit in it. How
about we just turn all of the fruit trees into males.
And then so we did that, and then now we
don't have any fruit, so now they can charge us

(09:23):
for it. So then what ends up happening. Is why
this is relevant to this conversation is the industrial complex
brought about a difference in the way that we parented.
So when father used to work out in the garden,
he used to work in the the you know, in
the stockyard or whatever it is that he did around

(09:44):
the house, the kids were there, you know. Then the
industrial complex moved the work to the city. Yep. So
that started the first strain on the marriage. As farted,
the started the first strain on parenting because Mom used
to have of dad at home, you know, plowing the
fields or tending to the whatever. Well now he's in

(10:06):
the city. Well, now Mom's at home all day by herself,
you know. And at these times she couldn't work, she
couldn't vote, so she had to rely on dad. Well,
Dad's now in a whole new place, no new space,
trying to figure out life. And then what we ended
up doing was sold this idea of women's liberation by
making them work, which really was just a sale tactic

(10:27):
to tax both people. I mean, if you look back
in the eighties seventies at what a thirty thousand dollars
house would look like. Yeah, today, I mean that's two
hundred and three hundred grand for that same house. And
I'm not talking about the same design of house. I'm
talking you go find a house that was built in

(10:48):
the thirties or in the eighties and they have a
two hundred thousand dollars price tag on it and there
is no updates that would is really that old.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
And sometimes it's cool if it's if it's up kept.
And you know, like I've looked in I think it's
Nickel Hill's area in Oklholm City and there's some really
old houses there that look very nice that have been
up kept. But then right next door is kind of
the same model house but has smashed out windows or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So you're right, it's just.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But why that matters is because just like with those
houses that you see at Nichols Hills, it doesn't matter
how many lackers of paint you put on that. Yeah,
that wood is old man like. And so with with
family structures, how this stuff is supposed to work is
moms are supposed to be able to get restpit so
are dad's and by having both involved, that gives the

(11:43):
parents an opportunity to get rest, to revive, rebuild, and
be present for their kids, and so they sold this
idea for women. Oh man, if you just liberate and
you start working. Well, now we got both our kids
and you know, or both the parents are working, kids
are in care and in school, no one's raising them.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
So only one's raising them is the government.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Government is raising them. And as they say, it's a
wonder that we send our children to Caesar, and we
wonder why they come back Romans exactly. And so now
we have the situation to where they've monetized our children.
And so what they did is they made us take
all these shots. I mean, and again how you feel
about that is up to you.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
But on that so back in even the nineteen nineties,
we only had about I think it was eighteen to
twenty vaccine shots when you had to go to school.
Now it's no less than sixty to seventy shots to
enter your first year of was it preschool now, which
is ridiculous. My mom, she was born in nineteen fifty three.

(12:48):
She said she only got three vaccinations to go to
three that's.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
All you need and you don't even really need those.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, RFK, sorry for getting off track, No, RFK junior.
And also I heard from Joe Rogan himself. They have
mentioned what's the reason for giving your baby a hep
be vaccine or a booster, because.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
In case they get a tattoo.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
If both parents are healthy, right that don't have it,
then there's no reason for the baby. But yeah, exactly
if the baby wants to crawl and get a tattoo,
then yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Absolutely need it.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
But again, when you're talking about these types of things,
what that would take is somebody that has the time,
energy and effort to look into If let's just say,
for instance, the two of you are, you know, building clocks,
right and clock is the baby, and we have to
protect this clock. Well, if you're busy working and he's

(13:41):
busy working, well, who's paying attention to the clock? If
I come and tell you, hey man, we just found
out that this water is really good for clocks, You're
not gonna look into it. You're gonna say, oh, well,
this guy looks professionally, he has on you know, all
the clock making things, and I'm gonna pour water in
and you're gonna find out later over time that that
wasn't built for that. And so when it comes to vaccines,

(14:03):
when it comes to teaching, when it comes to all
the things that we're talking about. I mean, we have
the spill out of parents being monetized to see their
children and they're trying to keep up with the joneses,
and now dads are not being able to impact and
be present with their children. Moms are being told a
lie that they don't need the other side. Even though

(14:26):
it takes two to create, two to make, now it
only takes one to raise. That's just not real. We're
not turtles. You're not putting them on the you know,
on the shore and hoping that they make it. So
what we run into is now we have a generation
of children that grew up in my era. My era
was the latchkey kid. We were the first kids to
come home to no one. So we came home to

(14:48):
know one and we thought that that was not harmful.
That was putting the water in the clock. Over time,
we have now found that it's created a loneliness epidemic,
it's created a connected epidemic, and things like social media
have exacerbated that and things like that. And so when
you're talking about parenting now, we're in a position to

(15:10):
where when you mix all of that together, everyone's looking
to the government for everything. Because the parents are looking
at the teachers like, hey, here's my kid raised them.
The teachers are like, hey, we're not even qualified to
be here. That's seen this on a commercial and they
said they'd give me two hundred dollars to come and
do this. I was at Wendy's before I came here.
I didn't get a degree. They just said they were

(15:32):
going to train me on the job. But see, when
I was a kid, somebody's parent was in every class.
There was some mom or some dad that wasn't working
because they could afford their lifestyle with one person working,
and that other person could be concerned citizen in the
classroom to say, what are you teaching our children? What

(15:54):
can I help you with? How can I be involved?
That's the engagement that we're talking about coaching sports teams
and things of that nature. Now they're they're given nil
deals to kids and in middle school, like, that's crazy
to me.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
In middle school. I knew high school. I didn't know
about middle school.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's going, well, they've monetized are children.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't even think there should be nil for college.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I agreed.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I get I get the argument for it as well,
but in my opinion, we have professional football, the NFL.
That is the main goal for these athletes to get.
And this is off subject. I get it, We'll get
back to the main subject that the whole thing is
like these athletes are supposed I think it pushes them
even more without getting paid to get that, you know

(16:43):
that bag as we all call, you know, the money bag.
And let's not pretend that universities weren't paying under the table.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
They were just let it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Happen now at this point, but like just in my opinion,
it's like I don't want to see this public. Keep
it under the take. Keep it like it was back
in the nineties. You don't get caught nowadays. That's a
difference that NCAA is not getting to look into it.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
But I mean just but again, you're going to a
point that that skips over something because what we're talking
about is the values that we're going to operate by,
and the values of were it's already bad enough to predator,

(17:27):
you know, to just be a predator for children. But
that's what that's all that is is like imagine if
you take the average teenager, right and you juxtapose them
with a Lindsay Lohand or a Britney Spears. Those girls
were probably great American girls that were living their best life.

(17:48):
Chris Brown, you know any of them, and you take
it Drew Barrymore as a child and enter them into
a world that they have absolutely no business being in,
and then you have this weird dynamic where and this
is where the nil deal is really going to go bad.

(18:09):
You have so say, Darrel's my dad, he has a
fiduciary responsibility to do what is best for me unless
he has now quit his job because I am now
making enough money, So now how is he going to
parent me if I am bringing home the money? You

(18:30):
see what I'm saying. And that's where you look at
the Brittany's, the Lindsay's, and it has happened multiple times.
And that's the crux of the issue that we're running into,
is like we don't have a universal guideline for how
we operate as a community anymore. And this is the
issue that is broken apart due to what we're doing

(18:54):
as parents. Because the government is a direct reflection of
the people they serve. So when we look at you know,
it doesn't matter if you like Biden or Trump. Both
of them have their own issues, you know. You know,
and I always like to say, you know, from the
White House all the way to the poor house. You know,
fatherhood affects everyone because if you don't remember Hunter Biden,

(19:17):
you know that was a guy with daddy issues. But
when we look at how we're operating as a as
a as a country, we're not looking at valuing people.
We're valuing what can you do for me? And that
is what is happening in these court systems. That is
what is happening to people like Daryl. It's like, yeah,

(19:38):
Darryl can can can probably take care of himself. But
you know if I put him in jail, he has
to bail out. He has to get an attorney, has
to get a bail bondsman. Mom has to then show man,
you know what, we just made a crab ton of money.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
That and Darryl also mentioned with child support. Oh yeah,
when a judge retires, there's every father they have that
or put on child support. They get stipends or a bonus.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Or so their their salaries are paid with that money.
So their retirement salaries are paid with that. And you
know what's interesting is if you ask the US government
what's DHS's number one source of income. It's hands down,
child support. The only way that that operates is by
child support.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
How is that legal?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Though? Because their people are too busy doing all this
other crap that doesn't matter. They don't focus on what
it is that we're actually supposed to be on this
earth to do, and that's to raise, create, and generate
families and young people. So if we are operating in
a family normally, what would happen is is every child

(20:50):
has deserved four grandparents, two parents, brothers, sisters, uncles, cousins,
and neighbors. And that's what we call a village. A
village connects with a community, community being small businesses, churches,
and school districts. Right when the two of those two
come together, then that's where sustainable life comes because when
you look at churches, the reason we say churches is

(21:12):
because before nonprofits became so profitable, churches did all that
work where there was hospital, bloodbank, food service, clothing, all
of itaction, polls, everything. And so now what has happened
is is they've taken those those things that a small
time community supposed to do together and they've started to

(21:32):
monetize them. So they said, hey, you know what, the
church is overfilled with too many clothes. Let me take
that over here and call it name brand clothing. Again,
a great organization, goodwill, great organization. But now they've changed
that into a multi billion dollar situation. And now we're

(21:52):
getting closed from Texas and from Arkansas and all over
the place. Why because now we've cloaked it under the
idea that we are giving people jobs second chances. No,
we have just created Internet for used clothes. When it
used to go to people in the neighborhood that needed them,
Now it's going anywhere that but anybody's willing to pay

(22:13):
for it, and they cloak it under the idea. And
again this is no diss to them, because I understand
why they did it. What I'm saying to you is
as a community, they shouldn't have to. When we're talking
about people that don't have jobs in a community, that's
where the community is supposed to come together to figure out, Hey, Daryl,

(22:35):
what do you need at your space? Hey what do
you need over your place? Hey? Is there anybody that
can sweep up? Now we find jobs for each other.
But if I'm sourcing out everything overseas because it's cheaper. Well,
now I have all these people here that don't have
a job, and then we have a homelessness epidemic, like
we do. All of these things are connected. And you

(22:55):
know where they teach that in your household at the
dinner time, if you don't have time with your kids
intentionally where you're sitting down talking about policies, talking about
problems and talking about things that are actually happening in
your face and being able to see how mom handles,
how Dad handles it, and how I'm supposed to look

(23:16):
at it and think about it when I go out
into the world. I'm gonna let the idiot box program
me and tell me how I should think, how I
should feel. And now they have a mechanism called chat
chept that actually programs you how to think. Yeah, and
this is adults and children are saying.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Hey, I'll be I'll be the first to admit I
use check.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I use it all the time. But do you know
what the number one purpose they use chat chept for?
Do you know? I don't. I don't know how to
use I don't even know what it is. Well, let
me tell you it's an AI bot and they say
artificial intelligence, but it's not. It's programmed with a bunch
of prompts. There's certain questions that you ask it that
it cannot answer because somebody on the other ends decided

(23:57):
this is not information that you need to know. So
let me give you an example. If I say, you know,
did Columbus discover America? You know they're going to give
you some weird answer about it, versus just saying no,
he you know, raped in pillage all the Indians to
do the thing again, just tell you the Depending on

(24:20):
who you ask, will determine what that answer should be.
But that's not the point. The point is the number
one use for a chat bot that is created to
give you programmed answers is drum roll please, Oh no,
I got one here. So the number one use is

(24:41):
for counseling. Really yeah, So imagine that counseling actual advice
on how to live. So what I would go to
my dad to learn or to uncle and learn. It's
taking everyone out. Now, imagine as a young, impressionable mind

(25:03):
that doesn't have people that I feel I can trust,
because trust has been defined by social media as people
that agree with me, not people that are giving me
what is best for me, but the people that agree
with me. And then you have an AI bot that
is programmed to make me feel seen, heard and valuable,

(25:23):
but never responsible. Right, And now I get to walk
into the conversation with my dad, with my uncle, with
my mom, with the community and say, you don't know,
this is what Chat told me. I know, and then
here we are.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Then you use GROC, which is Twitter or ex's. Oh yeah,
that one's more honest, but a lot more like grueling
to like what he said about Christopher Coombus, it will
go into detail about oh yeah, like Chat, GPT will
just be like chrispher Coomas sailed the sea in seventeen

(26:02):
or you know, in fourteen hundred and ninety two, discovering
a new world.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then grocol be like, well he rape pillaged and
oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
So this imagine this though, Imagine as a dad that
you're still trying to keep Christmas alive, give your kids hope,
and then they have the ability to now come to
you and say, Dad, you're a liar, right, Dad, you
didn't care about me because you lied to me. The
Easter Bunny is not real, or you know, you said

(26:34):
that you were doing this, and I found out because
I've looked you up, that this, this, and this is true.
Imagine if you believe everything you read as a young
impressionable mind, when they see what is reported about their father,
they don't know about just due process. They don't understand
that sometimes adults lie. You don't want to teach your

(26:56):
kids that at such an early age. You want them
to believe that the good of all mankind is to
try to do the right thing. And now he gets
to he can go home tomorrow and say, Dad, I
don't want to listen to you. You've been arrested all
these times. And He's like, but it was fighting for you. No, no, no,

(27:18):
they said, you would say that, how do you argue
with that? How do you stand for that? I had
to go through this for fourteen for eighteen years, where
I'm combating somebody else's impression of me, and I had
to make a decision that I just am not going
to argue with you. I have to make a decision
that all I can do is consistently show love any

(27:41):
and every opportunity I can to see you. But it
took me eighteen years, and my son just told me
two weekends ago, two weekends ago. He's twenty four now,
he said, thank you for waiting. You could have gave
up on me all those years.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Hold are you you're what? Thirty eight?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That was good because I thought you're what only forty eight?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah? Four?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Wow, I thought you guys were old.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'm thirty, so I really only thought you It was
a ten year difference from you look great.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh well, thanks, Well black, don't black, don't crash it.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Don't crack. That's that I couldn't. I couldn't mentor kids
for thirty years. And yeah, that work. That wouldn't even work.
That makes sense, It wouldn't work. But this is the
thing is like, this, this problem that we're discussing, is
way deeper than wrap. As I like to say it.
It could be brushed off as hey, Darryl had a
bad shake, but it's not Daryl had a bad shake.

(28:40):
Darrel is one of millions that get a bad shake.
The great thing about Darryl is is he has the
gall to stand up and say, you know what, no more.
And only a person that's done this work out of
the kindness of their heart for as long as he has,
would he even have the gall to do it, because

(29:00):
an average person will get slapped on the hand and
they will remove their hand. But when you slap somebody's
hand and they are grabbing their own property, then you say,
wait a minute. I mean, the natural reaction is to
pull back. You're like wait, but then hey, wait a minute,
but this is mine. No, no, I didn't say you
could have. Nobody asked you, what matter of fact? Who

(29:24):
gave you permission to tell me what I can do
with my family?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
He talked about a similar situation with if I need to,
I'll cut it. An attorney tried to or is representing
him now without even his Oh.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, yeah, no, I got that all cleared up.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Oh we didn't get that far through.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's okay. Yeah, No.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
An attorney agreed to represent me without my permission, accepted
a protective order over me on my behalf in conjunction
with the attorneys representing the city of still Water. So imagine,
imagine imagine being put under a protective order by your
own attorney who never told you they were your attorney,

(30:08):
and then thinking, well, the attorneys for the City of Stillwater. No,
that wasn't right, so they'll fix that. Nope, Oh no.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
They don't. That sounds too much like right, my friend.
They're hoping that you don't know the law. They're hoping
nobody taught you.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
I went into closed chambers the other day with a
judge and about two weeks prior, I had made a
filing in my case. I made a filing in my
case and I went through.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
All the facts.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
I had all the documents. I went to the court clerk.
I got everything they had and it was a very
clear situation. So I put that in my filing. Attorney
grabbed me and said, hey, I think you missed something there.
And I said, nope, I got all the information from
the court clerk.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Let's go check. When checked, I was right, I'd gotten
all of it. Nope.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
Two days later went back. There was another document in
there that I hadn't received. Well, I don't know why
I didn't receive it, but I got So I went
back into the court and I corrected the record and
I said I misspoke on this day. Now I know
that not to be true. My apologies to the court.
I'm in chambers with a judge and he's like, what

(31:15):
are you doing. I apologize to the court. I put
wrong information in the court. He said, Okay, I said,
I just would expect that's what court does, and I
anticipate that officers of the court who swore an oath,
and especially those that are servants of the court would

(31:35):
do the same. Nope, no, And he said, well, you know,
there's there's different levels. There's different levels, and so we
started at the top level, and the top level was
district attorneys should not lie when they're prosecuting criminals. That's true.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yep, that is true.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
I said, I think would be equally important, or even
more important, not to lie in an effort to cover
up child abuse. Well, no, the standard needs to be
much higher, isak No?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Wait say that again. I just say that again. Tell
me that again, and and.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
It was. It was conferred with the attorneys in the
room that the standard needs and listen to me when
we're prosecuting criminals, like I've been on the other side
of that wall, and you need to not lie about
me because I don't need to be in here if
I shouldn't be, I don't need to be in here
longer than I don't need to be.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
You need to not lie about me, You need to
tell the truth.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
But I don't think the standard should be higher or
less when you're talking about whether a child has been
abused or not. But my idea of court and the
scales of justice was always everyone always told the truth, and.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
If you don't tell the truth, that's fraud and perjury
supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, that's how I was raised.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
My dad.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Is conservative leaning, my mom's always been a moderate. But
they always taught me the Constitution is the American law,
and then the state constitution whatever state we're in, that's
the law as well. And if they add to it,
then you have to keep up with it. But the
thing is, they didn't explain how I should keep up
with it right, And I think my parents both thought

(33:25):
that the schools would keep us up with it. Well,
what I learned in school was my senior year. In
junior year in high school, I took Oklahoma history. This
is the first time I ever heard about the Black
riots or the Tulsa race riots. Yes, first time American
soil had ever been bombed. You know by it was Polk, right,

(33:48):
President Polk. Yeah, see, I know my history. President Polk
decided to bomb Tulsa because of the riots and to
end it. And I'd never.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Heard of this and killed me that.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Until twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, around that area. I was seventeen,
seventeen years of my whole life. I'd lived in Oklahoma
since two thousand and two. Right after ninety eleven, my
mom said, we're getting out Seattle because this is a
place that most likely will be targeted by al Qaeda
or whoever attacked us. We didn't even stick around, you know,

(34:24):
we didn't stick around to find out move down here
because she's from this area, and I mean, I've lived
here all my life. And when I saw what you
started posting online, I was like, this guy may be
a little crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Went down a rabbit hole with you.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
You know, my best friend Mason and I both did
research on him to see how crazy he really was,
not at all. Like we went five years deep on
this wonderful, amazing citizen of Stillwater, no issues. All he's
done is tried to make the community fathers, mothers, single mother's,
father's into the position to take care of their children. Yeah,

(35:04):
you know, and I regret not knowing you sooner, because like,
I'm a new father. I told him, I'm a new father.
I have a one and a half year old and
a four month old, and uh, they're they're with this
whole situation coming up with this. It makes me worry
now because I have children of my own. I don't

(35:25):
want my kids being taken away. I mean, are their
mother and I are together, so I don't have necessarily that.
But at the same time, the state's always trying to
I feel like divide. I mean, like we said earlier,
both parents, her and I work, so they're going to daycare. Yeah, sorry,

(35:45):
I burped in. We both yeah, but it's your mic
so I apologized. We we both go to work. The
younger ones go to daycare. She has a son from
a previous really ship, my step son, and he goes
to school. Like you said, daycare, maybe not necessarily the

(36:06):
government is raising, but they get some type of donations
or some type of fundation from Yeah, so and so
do schools, so that's like compliance. I'm very tempted at
this point to maybe uber and keep the young ones
in daycare for as long as possible, and then once
they're old enough to join pre care or something. I've

(36:29):
looked into homeschooling for a kid. My step son's age
eight years old. He's almost kids are only supposed to
learn for about hour to forty or an hour and
forty five minutes full day. Then they're supposed to be
able to learn about the world. Oh yeah, so you're
only supposed to learn about math, science, the curriculum for

(36:50):
hour and forty five minutes, everything classical education.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
But right now, really that's all IP.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
But like, our system is set up for your going
all day.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, it's do you know why.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Because both parents are working?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Absolutely not. Because there was a rich man once that
came along and said, hey, you know what, I need
people smart enough to not break my machines, but stupid
enough to never leave. And if they work on this
factory line, I can produce way more money and take
over the world.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Talking about Ford, Nope.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Better than that. It's a guy by the name of
John D. Rockefeller. Rockefeller created the school system and he
said this is why I'm going to create the school system.
And guess what everybody said, Okay, that's right. When you
look at the donors of the colleges that we support

(37:46):
right now, Big Pharma is the reason. So when you
see someone like a Charlie Kirk getting shot, you knew
it had to have happened. It had to happen. Why
because that goes again against what they're trying to do.
It doesn't matter that he's talking. Nobody cares about that.

(38:07):
What they care about is the fact that people are listening.
And so lucky for you guys, you haven't had the
privilege of being black your whole life, which I have.
So the court system is never something I've ever trusted anyway,
So I haven't ever had this pie in the sky
idea that they were in it to win it for me.

(38:29):
But even when I got into this work and I
started to understand what they really did to diminish the
family by creating you know, what was it welfare? You know,
they made it seem like black and brown people were
the largest proprietors of these things, but they weren't. Because
if you look at the white population, there was a

(38:52):
seven percent fatherless rate before seven and now it's up
to forty eight percent. And so when we're looking at that, God,
there's nothing, no data that they can pull that support
that what they did has somehow helped America. It has

(39:15):
not helped the people. It has not helped the families.
It had put way more of a crux on the family,
on the community, on the government.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Now, the reason because you're.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Black people don't have father figures are mainly because they
are going to jail for not really even serious crimes.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Most of that, well, I mean Jim Crow was a
thing that they intentionally did. So when they made slavery
illegal when you know the Northerners or you know, the
Republican Party, mister Lincoln decided to make it that slavery
was illegal. They didn't make it illegal because they were
just altruistic people. They were just like, we can't compete
with them if they got free work not going to work.

(40:01):
And you know, I'm not mad at that. There's never
been a society on earth that didn't have slavery. The
only difference in America was this is the only time
they did it based on race. Everyone else it was
just based on class. If you were poor, you're just
going to be an indentured servant. That's just your lot
in life. Here they did it because you were black,
no matter how smart, how dumb, you just are black,

(40:23):
so you don't matter.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Are you aware of the percentage of slave owners though
for the whole United States at the.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Time, I am not do you know the first At.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Least, the United States has the least slaveholders out of
any of the countries at two percent. But yet because
of the color difference, were the ones recognized the most
because of the racism or the different because.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Of how we did it? Yes, yeah, because of how
we did it. But they don't talk about the Cherokees
that put people in slavery. They don't talk about the
Creeks that held people in slavery.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
They don't talk about the first three slaves that actually
landed here year in the United States, which actually went
to a black slave owner owner. The three were Irish children.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
But again, this is all things because again when you're
looking at educating your children, this is why they don't
want people at home. If your wife or you decide
to be a stay at home dad to teach your kids,
think about what happens to those kids' minds when they
get an opportunity to learn all this stuff that nobody's

(41:31):
willing to teach, versus going and learning how to remove
or move around by the sound of a bell, go
to a locker and hold things that don't belong to you.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
They're literally teaching them. Maybe I don't know but it's
basically they're learning to go to prison.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
That's why they call it the school to prison pipeline.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Because this is in prison, the exact same.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Thing, the exact same thing, maybe not the bells.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
But there are three institutions in America. You will go
to one, if not two. There is college, armed forces,
in prison.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
They all operate the exact same military too.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Really.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Oh yeah, have you ever noticed that when military people
come back home they have to be rehabbed into doing
so just kind of like a prison. Don't they do
that there? Oh? Wait, and then in college they call
it internship. Okay, because you're not ready for real world.
You've been in a dreamland. Wow, where we've been programming you.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I like how you use the intern because I was
gonna ask you, I'm like, what's the student become?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Then? You know, of course, because you got to remember
that when you go to college, there's a person that comes.
It's a dean that tells you who you can and
cannot do, where you can and cannot hang, gives you
an inspirational speech, then passes you off to an ra
which takes you to your class and your school or
your little dorm. These are your roommates, your friends, whatever. Right, Well,
when you go to prison, same thing happens. Warden comes in,

(42:57):
tells you what you can and cannot do. They pass
you off to the Marginie takes you to your barracks.
Then the barracks go. They go, hey, here's your shot callar,
here's your friends. This is when you can go to
the weight pile. This is who you can hang out with.
This is what you can and cannot do. And the
same happens when you go.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
On Prison's pre segregated it as well.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
What so in college they separate you by class. Armed
forces they separate you by rank. Prison they separate you
by race. This is how you can always tell based
on how somebody talks where that which one of these
institutions programmed it.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, interesting because.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
If all I'm talking to you about is race, more
than likely, if we're talking about classes and degrees and
all this stuff, that doesn't matter. I don't know anybody
that's using a degree that's not making less money than
people that didn't graduate high school. I got you, yeah,
you know what I mean, like they lied to us.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I mean, degrees don't get you anywhere any more. I
mean Charlie even taught us that Charlie showed the scam
of college. I went to college for three years, and
I mean I was majoring to be a secondary education
gym teacher and coach football. Eventually, that's what I wanted
to do.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
And you could have walked down to Tulsa Public schools
and said, hey, I'm willing to come here, I don't
have a sexual assault, and they would have put you
in a classroom tomorrow, Tulsa, anywhere in Oklahoma. We are fiftieth.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I get that, but hold on, hear me out again.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
On teachers right now, so they're given, they'll.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Give it to you.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I think I think fiftieth is better than number one
in my opinion. And hear me out because who is
number one? California, New York, something like that. But my
thing is should should we be like California or New
York or you know, the top five, because those are
all indoctrinating their children in some way. And I feel

(44:56):
like Oklahoma's school system, as poor as it is, it's
still teaching you the the academics instead of hey, you're
a girl when you're not, you know, like, if you
feel like a girl, it's Okay, Darryl, you can be
a girl today. You know, like, that's how California is
doing it. They'll take the child out of class and

(45:17):
take them to therapy without the parents consent or even knowledge.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I wish we were in the top five in.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Lowis suicide rate top five and the you know, least
addiction rate top five and least dropout rate. You know,
I hate that we're bottoming all those That's what That's
what bothers.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Me, right, top five and teen pregnancy, aren't.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
We Yeah, I mean all the above, right, and yeah,
we're also top number one and grandparents raising kids? Right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I think aren't we number one for the population of
believing in angels? I think Oklahoma's, out of any other state,
believe in angels or heaven more than any other state.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Oh yeah, we're the buckle of the Bible.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I know, I know, I know America, out of any country,
believes in it more than any other country.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
So it's Glenville, Illinois, number two, Eastern Union School District
in Old West New York Old Westbury, and then New York,
New York, Saint Louis number six. In Austin, Texas, Pallo
Alto is number eight. That's where California. But yeah, that's educated.

(46:36):
That's what it says.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
I don't know why you guys are dogging on college.
I got a business degree and I change old. Now, yeah,
I don't know what I'm with you, but this is
the thing is like, but you also.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
Own your own business too, So when it comes to
what we're talking about, what we're talking about is how
do we create a lifestyle that we can pass along.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
This is why birthright living legacy exists. It is because
when you look at fatherhood through the lens of living legacy,
like Darryl's leaving a living legacy and he's willing to
die for you know. And that is the thing that
you know, when people talk to me about Charlie Kirk,
I don't have an opinion about him because I don't

(47:23):
know him, you know what I mean. But I can
tell you this. His wife and children watched him get shot.
They watched him get shot doing what he felt like
was he was put on this earth to do to me.
I feel like he won. I know, he had to
hug and kiss his wife and kids before he got
on stage. He died almost instantly. You could see his

(47:45):
whole life spill out in like less than three seconds.
But he was doing the thing that he felt was
his purpose in life. What greater legacy can one leave
than dying for something that mattered for him and his
family that he was willing to put it all on
the line for. When I watched the interview of you

(48:09):
getting out of jail the second time I seen that
view only a few times where somebody said, well, now
I'm gonna fight, and I'm thinking to myself, like this
dude was ruthless before, like he was about that life before.

(48:30):
But for him to now say, Okay, if this is
the version of me that you want, well let me
show you because I've been trying to do it your
way and I'm seeing that it's getting us nowhere. So
now you're fixing to get a concerned dad that has
the knowledge, the wisdom, and the resources to fight you.

(48:51):
And he has a backing.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
He has a.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Surrounding of people, which is the very definition of a community.
If you have a village and a community that operates together.
The government has to shift, it has to. If you
guys don't like this post Jerry Springer politics, then get
people out of office that are not doing what they're

(49:14):
supposed to be doing. This is why voting matters. Your
family set you down and had these conversations about why
we are moving. This is not a place we want
to be because of XYZ. It doesn't matter if I
agree as your neighbor, I'm not going with you anyway.
But what I do get to do is say, man,
bravo for your parents sitting down and having that conversation,

(49:38):
and that will spark a difference in your life forever. Yep.
Nobody will be able to tell you how to feel
about that. You know what I mean because you now
have a firm foundation in that. And so when we
are talking about fighting and advocating for families with a
strong fatherhood focus, what we're saying is is don't believe

(50:00):
the hype about oh we're bashing mother. No, we don't
need to do that. Let's actually talk to the enemy
that we're after, the people that are causing us to
split up. When you have friends that are in the
middle keeping it going and breaking up a family, when
the two talk there say I didn't say that about
you did that? Well, why are we talking to them anyway?

(50:22):
The government shouldn't be involved in our household. What we
should be doing is paying taxes and putting people in
office that represent our values. Doesn't mean that everybody's gonna
get it right. Nobody's perfect.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Well, don't you also think that these representatives that we
send it to office should have term limits as well?
Look at Nancy Pelosi, look at Chuck Schumer, look at McDonald,
Mitch McConnell. These guys have been there for forty plus years.
It sounds good, it sounds good, but look where we've been.
Nothing's really changed since they've been here.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
The term limits should be created by those voting for
them exactly, So don't look at them and say, man,
why you keep doing this to our country? Look at
where they came from and who kept voting for him.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
But have to be federally passed because it's on the
federal level.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
I'm talking about term limits by you didn't do your job,
so we voted were gone, you out?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I got you, right. They could have voted them out.
But the communities, they don't know enough about it. There
there there's too many uninformed people, myself included. And I'm
gonna give you an example. When they passed the what
was it the the after September eleventh, the Utrio Patriot

(51:37):
Act that was like five to six thousand pages or something.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It sounded good because it's called the Patriot Act. And
then you get through the five to six thousand pages.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Have you ever read it? No, I had chat GBT,
but read it.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I've read enough of it to know that what people
are mad about now about them exploiting these laws that
we passed way back then. You know, we thought I
you know, I used to be a conspiracy theorist before
it was okay. And I remember when they told us
that we were going to have to carry real ID
chips in our pockets, and I was like, no way.
And then all these years later, I found one of

(52:14):
my old licenses. It was literally a picture on typed
paper that was laminated. That was a driver's license. And
now they have these chips that they can read and
you have to carry it goes with you everywhere you go.
We are in a situation right now where we have
compromised what sounds good for what is good, and it's

(52:36):
because there's nobody that we have trusted in our lives.
We are relying on the systems created to teach us
how to think, feel, and be because our parents are
being alienated from us, either through work or through accomplishment
or through intentional driving of a wedge. And that is

(52:56):
what we're fighting against. It's not the machine like we're
in the matrix. This is real stuff that we can
control today. Like this is something if we rallied and
got it put on a petition, it can be done today.
Don't know it can't. He got way of a.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Little bit, but yeah, it can be done eventually.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
It could be done today. Listen, there's been plenty of
people that said we need you to step down and
we call for your impeachment today and people leave office.
That happens today. Again, they don't have to, but if
they actually care about the people that they claim to serve.
We just had a guy in District five last year

(53:36):
got a domestic dispute with his wife. They were like,
get out gone that day. Again, I don't even know
if it was proven to be true or not. But
because the people said out, he left. He could have said, nah, man,
y'all gotta go about this in the long way, but
he didn't. He left. Now does that prove admit guilt

(53:58):
or I don't know we're not into that. What I
am saying, though, is that when we're talking about getting
systemic change, we have to look at examples like what
Daryl is doing, where he's saying, Okay, I love the
fact that you didn't believe him, you thought he was crazy,
and you denied it. Because now that you believe, you

(54:18):
went into it with your bias that got changed. Yeah,
And that is what we're missing, is objective thinking. It's
okay to disagree with people, it's okay to not believe people,
but follow up, look into it and be able to
stare your accuser in the eye and say, hey, I
don't know that I believe that. Help me, help me
see it different. I have a guy right now who

(54:39):
is on trial for being accused for raping his daughters.
Now they're adopted, you know so, and I get it.
And I said, let me explain something to you, sir,
I said, there is a dead child on the floor.
You are holding scissors that are dripping blood. When I

(55:00):
when I see you, this is what everybody else sees.
There's a dead child on the floor, scissors in your
hand that are dripping blood. You have to say something
a little bit more compelling. Then I know what this
looks like, because that's not gonna work the visual of
what I'm being expressed from this person. I mean, you're

(55:23):
gonna have to tell me something more than I didn't
do it. It doesn't work that way. Even if he didn't.
It's almost impossible to prove you didn't do something. And
that's not even what the law is supposed to do.
The law says that you have to prove that I
did something for we have changed it to where it's

(55:44):
now guilty. Now prove yourself innocent. Now do it from jail, though,
and do it from with no witnesses.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Our course system used to be innocent until proven guilty,
and now it's guilty until you can prove your.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Innocentce exactly, which is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And who let that happen? We did? We did. We
did as the community that put the people in office
that make these rules. I was going to saystrations, but yeah,
I mean it sounds good. Listen. I would love to.
I would love to if you start slapping on the
bloods and crips, right, and that's all the Democrat and

(56:21):
Republican Party is just bloods and cribs. Just out of
the streets. When you start blanketly giving excuse to that
kind of behavior, that is removing you from the problem.
Now you're projecting. But when you take that onus and say,
you know, as a father, as a voter, as somebody
that pays taxes in this community, and again, this is

(56:44):
this is stuff I've learned from them, From Darrow and
other people like that, are saying, hey, as tax paying citizens,
this is our right. This is not an option, This
is not something they get to choose to do. This
is our right. Okay, well, now what do I do
with that? Can I piggyback on that to where we

(57:05):
came from. I'm gonna circle back a little bit. So
the petition signature petition for grand jury is what's called
a liberty. It's a right. It's guaranteed by the Constitution
of Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Right, it's a you know, the grand jury is in
the United States country now, only a few states actually
have the grand jury by a petition.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I don't know if you know that or not.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
We're one of them, right, But the associating of the
group and collecting the signatures is not a judicial process.
It is actually, you know, the First Amendment process the
right to associate and gather support, and it very clearly

(57:47):
forbids the introduction of the judicial process into it until
you know whether the people have made a decision or not.
Does that make sense? Yep, I'm gonna say a word.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
You have to edit it out.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
The process we were working on was, hey, community, do
you think we should look into why we're not protecting
our children? If so, let's look at why we handed
it over to all these systemic agencies and why they're failing.
Or do you think we shouldn't look That was the question.

(58:27):
Can we associate as a public with this liberty we're
granted this right, we're granted by the OCALA constitution right,
and can we associate and can we decide as a
team that we want to fix this because our kids
deserve better?

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Right? Like this is.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
How even at my age and the fights we've been down,
This is how naive I am as a human being,
I think we have this liberty and.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
This right right.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Well, about halfway through the process, it kind of looked
like we were going to get it done, started looking
like the public did want care about our kids. It
kind of started looking like we were supposed to do
this it kind of looked like maybe we're gonna turn
over some rocks and clean up some mess, and we're
gonna have kids with better opportunities next. Right about that time,

(59:15):
we started having people filing into a court process. Wait,
this is not a court process. No, this is a
right to associate. And you don't get to file in
and have an opinion because this is not a judicial process. Right.
But all of a sudden, on a Monday, Chief Justice

(59:38):
Dustin Rowe decides to come visit the courthouse. All of
a sudden, on a Thursday, former speaker and gubernatorial candidate
enters into our case.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Interest enters into our.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Case, enters to quash our case. You know where Daryl
was that day? Really true story? You know where I
was that day? I was slated to speak at the
capitol on judicial misconduct and child protective services. You can't

(01:00:16):
make it up. I find out that I have two
warrants out for my arrest, so I do not get
to speak and educate the public. I have to turn
back around and go turn myself in to the courthouse.

(01:00:36):
That the liberty and the right to associate and gather
support just got bastardized by politics, and I got arrested.
You know what really upset them, I bonded out. They

(01:00:59):
illegally forced an entirely cash bond when I should have
had a right to do a ten percent surety bond.
But my bride rallied around me, came up and come
with that much money and bonded me out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
God bless her.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
You know what happened Right then the court clerk refused
the cash.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
What you can't you can't, you say you can't. I've
had that happen to me when I tried to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Have currency US tender. They cannot. Legally they can't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
They also can't arrest you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
So I had to walk down to the sheriff's department
with the court clerk behind me and say, after you
book him into jail, then somebody can bond him out.
Then you guys can take the cash. What sheriff's deputy said,

(01:02:03):
we don't accept cash down here. She said, yeah, Dode,
He said, no, I don't, Yeah you do. No, we
don't you do too, not today, we don't. You want
to see somebody who was breathing fire and I sat

(01:02:26):
her eyes. I had to walk back upstairs for her
to take my cash so that I could do a
walk through instead of have to check into jail, go
into jail and wait to be bonded out. How cool
was the chef? Were those individuals that said, not today,
it's clear what you're doing to this man, not today, right,

(01:02:49):
But that particular person went right back upstairs and pre
drafted a warrant for my arrest because they didn't want
me bonding out. You know what they knew I couldn't
do when they recipe the second time. They knew I
couldn't bond out for a million dollars. So they came

(01:03:10):
and arrested me a second time with a million dollar
bond on my head. But you know what they were
willing to do. They were willing to drop that million
dollar bond down, knock off seven hundred and fifty thousand
dollars if my kid would go to the person he

(01:03:32):
was being abused by.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Of course, that was a tradeout. Oh my god, now
sounds like I have a Cromer and Fitch all over
it again.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Now, my god, if you want to know why I
came out with a little bit of something in my eyes, Yeah,
you put my kid in a bond, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Better buckle up right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Oh yeah, especially when the boots on the ground law
enforcement were so kind to me, knowing that their bosses
were making them do something they knew was illegal, ilegal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Illegal, that's wild, you know, And this is where we
talk about it's those citizens that have to make a
choice to say today, I'm going to do what's right
even if it cost me.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Did you see my video that morning? You know, I
never in a million years probably would have said what
I said if I had known it was going to have.
I sat there and I said, today's gonna be a
hard day, and i'mnna have to make a decision. They
were going to have an illegal hearing in a neighboring

(01:04:52):
county that they had not given me the right notification
for that. They could not force me to come over
to their thing that they were going to consider arresting me.
Or and I could go and concede my rights, my
constitutional rights, my due process rights right no, or I

(01:05:13):
could go teach the public that that kind of stuff.
So egal, I really didn't think I was gonna get
arrested twice for making that decision, maybe just once.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Nobody thinks that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
I didn't think they'd really arrest me for not coming
to an illegal hearing. But they did, they did, they did,
and they will they'll do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
But this is why you have to be sure your
ego and pride or in check and that you are
actually doing what you are supposed to be doing, because,
my friends, it's not going to cost them, it's going
to cost us. See, when we think about all these

(01:05:53):
rules and regulations, people are like, yeah, we should fight.
And I said, where do you think this war is
going to take place? Do you think they're gonna be
in the Hamptons with this war? Do you think they're
gonna be on DC? No, sir, it's coming to your doorstep.
And I and you better be for real because we

(01:06:15):
don't have any natural water, We don't have any natural
food that's growing. They are shutting down and kim trailing
people that are growing and creating these off the grid
harvest factories.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
The only natural food Oklahoma produces is cattle, of course,
and what corn, And that's that's more for the cat yeah,
for pigs and kettle yeah. And the largest corn producer
is Iowa.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
So it is Nebraska's close close second second.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Well, California is a close second.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Isn't it. California does dairy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Okay, they're dairy Cow. I think number one in dairy.
They're over Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
I always thought it was California massive.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
I think Moscow, Wisconsin has a lot, but they California.
Like people don't realize how many resources come out of California.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Well, it's the sixth largest by itself technically country in
the world. Oh yeah, Texas is what the eighth largest, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Right Behindson has twenty I think it's twenty two million people,
you know what I mean? Like New York, I think
it was just Bronx Boroughs has eighteen million people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
That's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Let's just put that in perspective. Oklahoma as a state
has four million.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yeah, four four million.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
We're not we're not we're not moving any needles in
the national news. But when it comes to the opportunity
to stop this kind of stuff, it didn't take all that.
You know what it took. It took one sheriff to say,
you know, now, we're not playing this game. See because

(01:08:09):
if the sheriff was smart, and I want to say that,
he was definitely smart over the kind heart. See, because
the kind heart is to do the right thing. But
the smart comes into when this goes wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
He doesn't want to be wrapped up in it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
You're gonna have my name on me, so everybody that's
involved in these little unraveling yarn pieces, and this is
what is happening to him. And it sucks because, again,
as a federal felon, just being on the couch with
him puts me in a situation because all it would

(01:08:46):
take is one person that doesn't like it, and I'm hit.
There's nothing I can do. There's nothing anybody can do
for me. I'm gone. They will hide me in that
system because they can send me anywhere in the United
States and there's nothing that anyone can do. None of
y'all are going to be up there where's Marquis No.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
But he mentioned that you would get a local magistrate.
You would have to I'm federal, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Only they flip a switch and I could be in
Colorado this afternoon, I could be in Louisiana by tomorrow.
You did what I'm saying, and you will never know.
They don't have to tell you until four hours later.
And by the time they give word about that place,
they've moved me to somewhere else. Federal Holdings are all

(01:09:38):
over the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Place, and then they'll keep playing the game.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Oh yeah, and the taxpayers will pay because they don't
even know how much this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Costs every time an inmate has moved.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
If I remember correctly, I think I heard this from
another Joe Rogan episode.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I think it costs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Anywhere from thirty three thousand to forty one thousand dollars
just to move one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
In one guy. And if if you move one guy
from the ADX, it takes twenty two people to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
That's why it's thirty three two.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
No, no, no, that's way more than thirty three. See move
in a convict. When you have to move a dude,
you have to pay three or four people to ride,
but more than often they're flying. Then you got to
pay the pilot. You got to do the gas, you
got to do the fuel. I'm talking about to take
one of those ADX patients to the hospital, you have
twenty two people and six vehicles.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Like Weinstein when he was rushed with And what I'm
saying that doesn't hurt any New Yorkers. They're already paying
high taxes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Well they're starting to wake up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Do you think Zorhan will win the mayoralship.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I don't. I honestly I don't. I don't follow anything
outside of Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
That's probably good, though.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Because I know that the President doesn't really affect as
much as I would like to think he does. They
control the army, and if I don't have people that
represent from here in the Congress, in the House, in
the Senate, it doesn't matter what he says or does.
If those people aren't doing their thing. Man, I'm hit,

(01:11:11):
you know what I mean? There's I mean again, we're
talking about one Houston, one South Carolina versus one Oklahoma.
There's four million of us total. They could, like the
city of the City of Dallas could overtake this whole. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Is the city of Dallas population I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Think it's like fourteen million something. Stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Well that's Dallas Fort Worth area.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Yeah, it's insane. They could. They could trample us if
they decided to. Now, again, we could get into the
argument of how many you know, people could shoot guns.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
The population of the city of Dallas, just Dallas alone
is one.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Point three million, one point three one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Point three, so about two point five with DFW on
nine million with df.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
W yeah, yeah, and that's from how long ago? How
long is that out there?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
That was this last census, so combined with uh, let's
see as a okay, the Arlington Dallas Fort Worth Arlington,
Texas market is eight million, five hundred and seventy seven,
two hundred and fifty three as of the April twenty
twenty five pop Stats estimate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, and it's estimated.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Those are those are pop stacks, those areas.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
That's not even not when you get into the census.
You gotta remember, the census is how many people answer
the door, how many people that they tell you live there? Gotcha?
You see what I'm saying. Because there's there's communities, uh
and and people like to make it seem like it's
just the Hispanic community, but it's not. There's aging communities
and all that where they have more than just one

(01:12:55):
family staying together, which is smart because then they make
a lot of money buy houses and do the things
the right way because they're building a community.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Well, you see a lot of the I don't know
if you know who Patrick bet David is. Okay, Patrick
bet David. He has explained that he's Iranian. But you'll
see a lot of these Persian Iranians come over here,
but they come in large numbers, twelve deep, and maybe
it's five kids and the rest are adults. And maybe
the majority of the adults are older. But the middle

(01:13:22):
adults that are either the children of these older adults
are the four siblings that go to work. They all
live in the same house for for maybe three years.
Everyone lives in one house, and then eventually they start
buying the block. Yeah, and they all live on the
same block, and basically they're all neighbors. And I like
that idea. I do appreciate that they have that model.

(01:13:45):
I just would like us to do something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
But their model, that's the Bible model.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Bible, that's what they're supposed to do. But they're Islamic
as well, so.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
It's the only model that works.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Okay, it's the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Only way that a village thrives. Is that if I
don't build close to my family, when my parents get old,
who watches my kids? And then when they get too old,
who watches them. What we have done in the society
is we have put no value on family. So now

(01:14:20):
we put the old people in a home and the
young people in a home, and we wonder why we're
so disconnected and feel so lonely. I will tell.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
You my in laws live in the same section that
we do. My mother lives in the same section we do.
My brother and his wife and their twins live in
the same secre, and sometimes it feels a little close.
It's supposed to, but we do have community. We have
people watching our kids every day, and we watch everyone

(01:14:50):
else every day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
And you got somebody watching your property, somebody that's watching
to see if something's going on. You got people that
are actually going to tell you if somebody's trying to
bring again, they're gonna treat your stuff like it's their stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Is when y'all go on vacation together, no one's watching anything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Well that that that could post a little bit of
a problem, But you could have that problem anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I think that like, hm, so lucky Burgerlary would be like, oh,
six houses.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
I mean, you've seen home alone. You know, when you're
in jail, somebody's watching the kids. Somebody's watching the kids,
and it's not even a maybe, it's it's I know
that could a stack is safe? You know, And that's again,
that's what that's the American dream. That we've been robbed
is that we know that our family is closed and
our neighbors are invested in us as much as we

(01:15:40):
are in them. And by separating people and having them
fighting over stuff that doesn't matter, Democrats and Republicans have
existed for all this time. Why all of a sudden
is it such a big deal? I mean, the Civil
War was a long time ago. They weren't fighting for
human rights. They were fighting for who's gonna make the
most money. And as long as we are able to

(01:16:01):
be honest about that, then we can see, Okay, well,
if we're about to have another civil war, let's see.
I wonder if it's about money. So then when we
start looking at the money, we follow the sources of
where all these issues are. We've monetized fruit, water relationships,
children like people are being sexually assaulted and it is

(01:16:24):
not even an issue anymore like it used to be
a big deal. Like it's a big deal for people
to throw around those accusations. Let me just think about this.
Let me give you an example. If you guys are
old enough to have watched the movie Grease Lightning, yep,
think about the ridicule that she went through thinking that

(01:16:46):
she was pregnant. The entire town treated this girl a
different way because she might have been pregnant. Think about
the the biggest thug that they had, you know what
I mean. He wasn't even the smart guy. He was
just a full on run through the wall hoodlum, right,

(01:17:08):
And he was prepared to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Marry her Vinny right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah, he was prepared to put it all on the
line and say, hey, I made this decision, I love you,
let's do it. And she said no, need, I'm not pregnant.
He said, so what, Because the value was if I'm
willing to do it, I'm willing to take responsibility. It
didn't mean that they didn't have a hard time trying

(01:17:33):
to make the decision, because it sucks to have to
make those kinds of decisions early. But now a teacher
or an older person could be sexually assaulting a young boy,
and as long as it's a woman, you got people like,
all right, go ahead. I had to tell a dad
the other day. I was in a prison speaking and

(01:17:55):
I was telling him because he had a ten year
old son and a seventeen year old girl who is
sending him nude pictures. And I said, hey, I get it.
You're happy he's not gay. I understand that. But do
you understand that you are almost celebrating that your ten
year old was sexually assaulted via text message from a

(01:18:18):
seventeen year old girl. And I could tell you it's
never even been a thought that crossed his mind because
it wasn't a man. And then I said, this is
what I want you to realize. As a father, you
could fullheartedly say to your son, instead of looking at

(01:18:38):
those pictures, take this bag of cocaine and snort this,
because it will be better for you than looking at
those pictures. I said, you could with full faith know
that he would be in a better position by snorting
cocaine as a ten year old then looking at pornography.

(01:19:00):
But yet we don't treat pornography like it's that big
a deal because some virgin kid from back in the
seventies read a book called human behavior, and he pushed
this narrative for something that he didn't even experience yet
and changed the laws to where they made human sexual behavior,
which was founded on the very backs of children, because

(01:19:23):
they hired a Nazi guy to rape, and the US
government hired a guy to rape children. To see if
the desire was natural or not. And because of this research,
they said human sexual behaviors is okay. Early on, the
guy that did the research died by asphyxiation, and the

(01:19:47):
guy he hired ended up dying later on. But that kid,
that virgin kid that pushed that in guess who it was,
Hugh Heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I was just about to say, makes sense though.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
And we started to sell our women. Yep, we started
to sell. Now, prostitution has been going on since, been
going on, but we started to sell the pictures and
the videos of them. We started to make gravet images
of these things. And now they've created these empires that
have ruined lives. This is the first generation of people

(01:20:25):
that can say, hey, Darryl, isn't this your your your wife?
On OnlyFans. Could you imagine being a kid in school
and somebody say, hey, isn't this your mom? Or hey
miss miss Jones my teacher, isn't this you?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
This is the first generation that will only know AI
as well. My kids are the only ones that are
young enough. I mean, my step son, he's old enough
to know what life was without AI. But my kids
wouldn't know nothing about anything but AI and I mean
I say that, but as a parent myself, I want
them to know what VHS is, what record player is.

(01:21:04):
Like we have streaming right now, but I haven't introduced
them necessarily to chat, GPT or anything, and I don't
think I will.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
I have a VCR in the next room for that purpose.
That's what we's got a DVD player in the next room,
that's the purpose. I got a tape player in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
The other room.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Why because there's a disc player. I do have a
disc play big No. I don't have a lasers, never
got into laser disc but I have all those things
precisely because those things cannot be altered. Do you not
realize that Disney has gone back through all of their
movies and started putting Kim Trails and all the movies

(01:21:43):
to make it natural.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
All the Star Wars movies are different, all of them.
I still have the old VHS ones, and I watched
the VHS ones.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Remember that, and then I'll go over to streaming and
it's cutting. We just cut it out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
The Bible is nobody reads it, and you know, all
these different people like so this is this is why
it's so important that we start to value family because
again going back to the point that we made earlier,
if we don't have anyone watching our children but the
people that are paid to do it, I mean, I
would love to lie to you and tell you that

(01:22:18):
when I used to work at Harvey's, in all these
different places that I work, that I gave it my
all every day. I did not now imagine me coming
into work with that attitude with your child, right, you
know what I'm saying, Like, that's where we are. We
have teachers that don't. I have a dad that is

(01:22:38):
that has become a teacher at a place here in Tulsa.
And again, I don't know how true this is anymore
since doctor Ebany took over. But he was recruited off
of a commercial. He just saw commercials and said, hey,
you want to teach. And there was a couple of
them that went with zero experience, zero and the only

(01:23:01):
thing they were supposed to be taught from another teacher
how to do the job. And I said, how many
office hours have you got? Who's like none? I've been
teaching for two years and I got none. And I
was like wow. I'll also say some people.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Have a gift, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
And I'm not sure they need all that six years
in college, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
Yeah, I'm with them.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
I think sometimes we miss out on finding our gift
and we miss out on taking advantage of the gifts
of those people around us because we are stuck in
the positions we got put in through the system.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Right. I'm a firm believer we should do teaching like uber.
I should be able to I should definitely be able
to say I like this math teacher. We want to
have the person come over for two hours a month
or two hours a week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
I like that too. But I also think school shouldn't teach.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
On a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Only one type of curriculum like curriculum base, because, like
I've seen the U was that the example of how
school tests are. Like, it's like the teachers like, all right,
students climb the tree when there's only one monkey and
all the other animals are there. You know, one one
kid can do it, but the rest of the kids
can't possibly do it. And I'm not saying kids are stupid.

(01:24:26):
I mean I'm stupid. This is what I'm here to
learn from you guys. Okay, maybe I'm ignorant. Ignorance what
he said, I can't say hospital or ambulance right either.
We are close to the end of the podcast. My

(01:24:47):
camera runs for about an hour and a half. I
would love to have both of you back on. I
want to have you bet Darryl. I definitely want to
have you back on, because we didn't dive as deep. No,
he didn't ruin it, but we covered a lot and
I think all of it matters. And I think I
got sidetracked because I was pointing out conservative Democrat and

(01:25:10):
you pointed out that both are entrapping our children and
trying to indoctrinate them their own way. So what I
can take away from this is I always thought a
few years ago, I thought corruption was only at the
federal level, you know, because I watched the last administration
kind of do what they did with Trump. I was like,
that's corrupt. And I started noticing a few years ago

(01:25:33):
with my local politicians in my hometown also kind of
doing sketchy things as well. And then Darryl you started
posting online and that really got me very interested into
our own political and just our issues in our own community.
And because of Charlie, because of Joe Rogan, and just

(01:25:57):
a lot of people that have influenced me. Through pod
I've become close, like I'm trying to walk closer to
God with faith and everything I've lately, for the past
probably ten years, I haven't been close to God just
because I mean, young, dumb in my twenties and didn't
think it was important. But now I have kids. I

(01:26:20):
want the best for them, and I know you want
the best for your children, both of you and I.
I just appreciate both of you for allowing me to
come sit down with you guys and do this amazing podcast.
I really, I truly think this is probably one my
best podcast I've ever done.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
This is awesome, best glimpse your kids are gonna get
of the heavenly Father is the father that treats them
right well and loves them right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
So that's it. That's what we gotta be. That's what
gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Very wise, if you want to look straight into camera,
uh one after the other, say something of wisdom to
the listeners viewers, go for it. Other than that, guys,
I love you. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
No, I'm good. I appreciate you. Guys. I just want
to say thank you for the opportunity and if I
could tell you one thing. As a father, don't give up.
And as a mother, just know that as a father,
doing everything that they do in no way diminishes what
you do. Don't compete with your child's co parent. Understand

(01:27:27):
that both of you are intrinsically valuable. And any father
that needs any assistance in that area call me a
birthright living legacy. We'd love to have you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Call shadowt birthright for allowing me to shoot here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Thanks you anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
I love you, guys, see you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Hey, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Welcome to the How do you do it good?

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
How are you good? Hello?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Marty? Oh hey buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
What's up man?

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
How are you doing next? How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
What's your real name?

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
What's your government name?

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
That is my first question. I'm just gonna go right
off the bat and get J. J.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
Wood.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Longtime listener, first time guest. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
All have headphones now you're.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Getting yeah right, guy, heale? What year were you born?

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Ninety seven? Ninety six?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
See alright, technically you're a nineties baby, but you missed
half of it.

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