September 29, 2025 • 56 mins
We kick things off raw and unfiltered—no warning, no prep, just straight into the conversation. That’s the style of TheHeleyCast, and this episode with Cristela Carrizales is no exception.
From talking about the natural flow of podcasting (and the occasional drunk silence) to swapping stories about idols like Joe Rogan, diet choices, health, and raising kids, this episode dives into the real-life balance between comedy, conversation, and trying to figure it all out.
Cristela brings her own perspective while we break down everything from podcasting flow to personal growth, with plenty of laughs along the way.
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From talking about the natural flow of podcasting (and the occasional drunk silence) to swapping stories about idols like Joe Rogan, diet choices, health, and raising kids, this episode dives into the real-life balance between comedy, conversation, and trying to figure it all out.
Cristela brings her own perspective while we break down everything from podcasting flow to personal growth, with plenty of laughs along the way.
🎙️ Support TheHeleyCast! If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to like, follow, and subscribe on your favorite platform. Your support helps us keep the conversations going and the mics on!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, we're going just our heads up, no problem, Okay,
I didn't give you a warning or anything. We're just live.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'll go.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's how I do my podcast though, Like I just
go into it generally, like if we have a conversation
going great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
If we don't, it is, well, that would be for
a really boring podcast. If we don't have a conversation.
I would hate to try to be on the other
side of listening to this, Like, no conversation that was
profound if it was twenty minutes with silence.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
There has been times like that. That's when I get
too drunk.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah oh yeah, No, by all means that's you do you,
you do you.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Only you have a few drinks. I'm not trying to
get too wild. My idol, that's funny as it says
as it sounds. My idol is Joe Rogan. Uh huh yeah,
to live more by what he says, okay, like diet wise,
like the Carnival diet. I want to be more healthier
because I have kids now, hmm, I want to be
around longer.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So I I understand you probably don't fully agree with
Joe Rogan's political things. Neither do I, you know, we
we probably I want to dive straight into the whole thing.
But right, well no, no, no, no, Hi, Crystilla Hi, and
it is Crystilla, right, Pristella. I just want to make
(01:22):
sure pronounce your last name cars Alis carries out.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Cars a yeah. So yeah, so Crystella cares Aalis and
so yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I I I uh so. Before we even get into
this whole debate, not necessarily even a debate, I want
to make sure after we're done with this, you're not
gonna shoot me.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't. I don't own a gun, so the last
thing I'll do is maybe shoot you daggers in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And I would like to ask you as well. Can
we both agree that violence is not the answer?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Absolutely violence after what has happened recently. Yeah, even even
if you did, even if you didn't agree with the
young man that has lost his life, I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Want you to lose their life. And what they've said,
that's a ridiculous, ridiculous thing.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And I didn't agree fully with him. I mean I
did agree a lot with him, I'll admit, and you
probably know that just with our.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
But he.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's really this is the first time I actually cried
for a person I truly didn't even know or meet,
Like I mean people I know people that cried over
Kobe Bryant and stuff like that. The reason I have
poured out tears for this young gentleman is he's about
a year two years older than me myself. He inspired me,
(02:47):
along with Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn Bert Kreischer, to start
this as well. He's the side like for this podcast.
He's the side where I'm curious on politics period. I
don't want I want to disrupt people and upset people.
I'll tease you, you see that, as long as you
can take teasing back, that's fine. Yeah, It's just it's
(03:10):
My fiance last night told me I need to find
my own voice. I need to choose a path. And
I mean, I'm not necessarily a political podcaster. I am
a political comedian. I'll joke about both sides. I'll openly
admit that, but I'm not necessarily a political podcast. I
have had politicians on, but it's to learn. I want
(03:34):
the podcast is based to learn. I want people to
learn along with me. That's why, Like, if I have
someone that is a big figure on that upsets other people.
That's fine, but I'm just asking questions. Sure, maybe I
endorse them for political figures or political office, but at
(03:54):
the same time, doesn't mean come after me. It's just
my opinion. Have your own opinion, you know, and I'm
I'm not gonna come after you for your own put.
You know your opinion. I think we all should have
an open communication.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh absolutely, I agree. Yeah, we should be able to
disagree with one another and it not be a.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Leave me because like I've been seeing so many comments online.
Sure they are hateful, it's like no one, it's just the.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Thing about so so the thing about anger.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't mean to start it like this.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh it's fine. I mean I want to.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Get to know you as well.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But well there's no better way to get to know
me than now than asking questions like.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, especially with the climate.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right, well, the issue I think a lot of times
is that people people studies are showing right now that
while we are technologically more connected than we've ever been
in real in life, we are more isolated and alone
than we have ever been in.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Lightly right, So everything is internet, and.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Everything is internet, every all communications.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Are are It's not in person and in person like
Charlie was the in person, right.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
He was showing up. He was showing up and talking
to people instead of.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Behind a keyboard, which is what I do guys.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right, Yeah, And and I am less that way, right,
So every time I am I'm not. I mean, I've done.
I've been in a movie. I've been in you know
a couple of things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I've We'll get to that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Absolutely, yeah, my my forty seven seconds of fame. Absolutely,
I will regale you with the tale.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But the way he said that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It is, it is No, it's so true, it is.
It is highly It's such an epic.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Was it like King of Tulsa King or something?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It was not, thankfully, Tulsa King was experience.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Do I know who kevon taga Zeta?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I do know familiar? I mean we he and I've met.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He was in Tulsa King. He was, Yeah, apparently as
a background and he was and he was he was
in a Twisters was he? Yeah? He was the last
So as.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The last Brown gotta get blown away? Is that what happened?
It's Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, he if in the last scene go into the
credits when they're zooming out. You can see him in
the crowd or in the right before the credits.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You can see that's awesome. Well, good for him. No,
there is you know, there is something to be said
about checking that box. But all right, let me go
back to my.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Sorry, yeah, no, I got off the objects. It's okay,
I can see this is what the podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I hope you have good editing skills.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sorry, there is no editing.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
There is no editing. Blame him, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Do you blame me?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So we the thing is, yeah, we're so we're so disconnected,
we're so we're so away from each other, We're so
separate from one another that it becomes easier and easier
and easier to be mean. Because I don't have to
be in your energy. I don't have to be in
your presence. I don't. I can work remote, I can
(07:05):
study remote, I can text you, I can never pick
up the phone. I can I can do all those
things and never actually I can communicate with you with
ever actually ever having to be in your energy. And
the second that we are in people's energies, everything else
comes with it. Right, tone, intention it's harder, Brenne Brown
(07:27):
says in one of her books. I don't know. I've
I've read a lot of them so that I get
them mixed up. It's it's hard to hate up close.
You gotta lean in, and.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So you speaking on that. So I haven't. I've never
hated you. I've always kind of like just like from
our interaction, I've kind of joked about, like not even
with people, just in my mind, I've joked about you, like, ah,
just harmless jokes, you know, no no, no, no, no, no,
don't no, no, no, no, just it's like, oh, like opening.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Lines or creepers say. I mean, that's kind of what
that sounded like. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Thanks for pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's not a problem, keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But I mean, how far when we met in Aaron's
office in the office over here, the energy to me
was clean, it was fine, hmm, you know, like I
mean through that's the thing. Through Facebook message or through
text message, you can get a whole different vibe. Because
in my mind, I was like, h this might be
(08:27):
interesting with her, you know, like, and that's why initially,
that's why I did invite you. Because we're two separate,
we're on the different spectrum. We are we are, but
at the same time, I'll walk away from this and
I'll start just We're only not even ten minutes in,
so people are still listening.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Seven subjects right, so people.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Are still listening. They listen to about eleven minutes, so
people are listening. I want to say, this is it? Like,
even when I walk away from this, I have no
hate towards you. I don't want to climb building and
wait for you to speak your mind and assassinate you.
I think it's crazy the world we are living in today.
(09:09):
I don't think it's acceptable at all. No, and like
I hope you feel the same. Like I may say
some radical ship that you don't disagree, that you disagree.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
With, Oh excellent, okay, yeah, no I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh yeah, this is a fucking yeah. Walls to the walls.
I don't give a ship.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Excellent, excellent.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Kids will eventually watch this.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I have a I have a four month daughter, oh yeah,
so sweet, and I have a one I want to
say about one and a half nineteen month old child
or son, so child, of course, I mean the given
and they're they're amazing, they're amazing, They're amazing. I do
have to admit the daughter and I do not get
(09:54):
it along, just because I think she's so young, you know,
so she's still attached to the boob and everything. So
she when I hold her, she's looking for my nipple.
I might stay away from there, but that's that's literally
what I've learned, even with my son when he was
her age. That's what they their senses are. They are,
(10:14):
so if you're holding them like this, they're always leaning
towards a side, trying to because they know there's a
nipple if they lean to a side. Yeah, now I
have chest hair, so it's not going to be as
nice as their mom.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But you know, fortunately they don't have any teeth for
it to get like stuck.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
In Hey, but what their mom has said, it's not pleasant.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, it's not. I mean, I know I have never
had a child.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Really, was you a mother?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Now I am not a mother?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I ask why? Or is that too since?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Again? No, I I have a no. I'm actually doing
a show at the Theater Crew Frinch Festival here in
Oklahoma City. My show is called Begin Again Badge, Begin
Again Badge. It's a one woman's show. It's based on
my story, which is a journey of infertility and alcoholism
and divorce, Oh no, it's okay, and dating apps, and
(11:06):
so it's actually gonna be funny because I mean, I'm
a funny I'd like to think I'm a funny person,
but I.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Can already tell you're a funny person, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But it's that's the thing about it, is that that
so many women suffer from infertility by themselves. They feel
like it's a it's an incredibly lonely affliction. And so
because people don't talk about it openly, because it's such
a shame field subject, I have made the personal choice
to stand on a soapbox and talk about infertility openly
(11:37):
and honestly and as painful as it actually is. So no,
I don't have a problem, but I would say that
I would just FYI. I mean, not everybody will be
as open as as I am about it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I love that because my mom, she didn't necessarily have infertility.
I don't want to put her on the spot, but
my father and her when they were married, their DNA
was so close for some reason, like just I don't know, okay, And.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That was a joke. That was a joke that was
Rogan would have.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm adopted, So it doesn't it doesn't matter about those people. Okay,
but you may be right. They their DNA was so
close that when she would get pregnant, the DNA would
reject the specimen, is right. Yeah, so I do have
to ask you. They before I asked you this question.
(12:30):
They then were open to adoption. They looked into US
adoptions first, and they did see the during the time
in the nineties. May be wrong. I don't have a producer.
I will have a producer eventually. His name's Mason. He's
going He has agreed to produce for me, and said,
(12:50):
long as long as I pay him in beer.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's a really good way to pay a producer. Oh yeah,
I would pay a producer that. And I'm recovering alcoholic right, yeah,
you're recovering cover that much.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So I was adopted. My parents they looked into the
US first and kind of discovered that their the children
in the US had more problems than they were willing
to take on. I'm not, you know, shaming them on that.
It's their preference. So they went outside of the United States.
First place was obviously China, very popular at that time,
(13:27):
but the only children they had were girls. My dad
that I know is my dad today. He was strong
on a boy. So they went to the Eastern European
Bloc or Old Eastern European Old Soviet countries, Belarus, Romania,
(13:48):
which is where I'm from. I'm from Romania, and they
found me. The only reason they found me and chose
me was my mother's father used to own a ranch,
not necessarily a ranch. He owned eighty acres and he
ran her for cattle, the red and white cattle. And
(14:08):
in my photo for the adoption agency, I was holding
a stuff her for cow in my picture.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, And my mom, I don't know if you're religious
or anything, but my mom said that was a sign
from God that this is our child.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Nice. Yeah, you know, I mean I look, I mean,
I don't look for signs.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I mean I don't necessarily either. But and I haven't
been religious for a long time, but twenty twenty five
and maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Cause you to cry out to Jesus this year will
cause you to cry.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I may not agree with me on this, but when
I saw that assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, that really
opened my eyes because I don't if it had been
Biden that was assassinated attempt on him and he survived.
I'd still feel the same way regardless, because that's a miracle.
(15:04):
And to me, that's the grace of God protecting someone
that he's not ready to welcome home in my opinion.
And we can disagree. I see your face, but that's.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Just I have a completely different slant. But I'm listening. Yeah,
and mine is he missed. No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And also too, there's there's something to be said about
our significant age difference, you know, I mean, there's there.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They're not much older than me.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh absolutely, I am. I'm not gonna tell you, but
I mean you can camera will Yeah, it's a tiny
bit older than that. No, So yeah, thank you. Though,
I appreciate that I work at a very large SEC
institution in the state.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Of Oklahoma, Southeastern Conference, the one that's.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Recently you know, gone over to.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
The Okay I know what she's talking.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
About, right, And so being around that particular energy, I
think for as many years as I've been at that
institution keeps my spirit quite young. And uh, and then
my mom gave me really good skin, so and I
took care of it so, and I give the tattoos too,
thank you. These are family Well, okay, they're not.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That gives me hope because I'm looking at your arms.
You're not wrinkly.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I'm saggy, but I'm not necessarily wrinkly.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You're not saggy either, like those tattoos still look clean. Well,
thank you, because have you ever seen the post? When
you're old, your your tattoos are gonna look all wrinkly
and fucked up. Yeah, you guys, look at her tattoos.
They're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Thank you. Well, and here's the couch. I didn't actually
get them until I was older, because I really know,
I was in my forties when I got them. So
I've already given you a hint of I said in
my forties and.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So so only a few years ago, oh, a few
years ago, a couple five minutes, five minutes, five minutes minutes.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Before we started, I turned, I turned right over right
before we started this interview. So so on this arm,
I is my very very first tattoo. Is a y
and an amper sand in an s and the ampersand
is also looks like an E and that is for yes,
and which is basically the the beginning impetus of improv
(17:17):
If we're showing tattoos, oh, we're gonna go. So, yes,
only they're only on my arm, in my and my leg.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I mean they're only on my arm too, but I.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Can't okay, So okay, well you're doing that. I'll finish
the tour. And so then this particular one with the
heart and in the sun is this is my mother's
memorial tattoo when she gets all undressed for her I
know I didn't even ask for this. We have we
haven't even fully covered one topic except she's.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
A cougar guy.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I am totally g I double er okay, yeah, so this.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Is what he's got.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I know, I'm such an influence. That's that's me. Sorry, no,
this is so, this is this is my mom's tattoo.
It was it's a it's a heart and the sun
because she used to always seeing you or my son
shine to me. Where So that's that?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh I see the Yeah, so it's like a it's
a it's a rote. Well I took you as a rose.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah you could see that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Gros so I didn't see the that's beautiful yea. Also
when I first saw it because I didn't see the
center that was a sublime.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It does, it does give sublime. I thank you. I'll
never unsee that. No, I saw that before you said that. Yeah,
And then this one is these are both family tats
as well. This is all my girl cousins one day
all got the same tattoo.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The forty six.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So the forty six is my mother's birthday, and so
all of my girl cousins we have an infinity sign.
See is for the last name cares aals. Forty six
is for our Casalis family members that their birth they
were born. So I have forty six. My other three
cousins have forty nine, and then another one has like.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Mom was born nine years later, nine years later, fifty three,
fifty three, ok, yeah, so yeah, my uncle was born
right at that time.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So we we got those. And then this is my
memorial tattoo to my thea who.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like three days he is a grandmother.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's an aunt, so my aunt my mother is is grandmother.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh on, why is a a buela? The A is
for female bla low would be grandfather right right?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So yeah, so that's how masculine and feminine vowels works.
If it's the O in the so I learned.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I learned a low Spanish. I got through Spanish one with.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's hey, as long as you remember.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know, I'm engaged to a Latin woman.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You are engaged to Latin.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Congratulations, has two kids with a Latin woman. Good for you,
well done, you know, way to marry up. Open your eyes.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I get it. Yeah, so I can come off a
bit like my Even my fiance says, you're a little
bit racist. I'm like, listen, I'm not. It's not. I
don't think it's racism. It's more I hate the governments
like so, I speak out against Israel m M, but
I also speak out against Palestine as well, because I
(20:17):
hate both governments. The Palestinian government, the Palestinians voted for
Hamas to be the government in their region. I don't
like that. I support the Palestinians at the same time,
but I don't like their decision that they chose those leaders.
I do not hate every Jew in the world, but
I do not agree with the Jewish government. I do
(20:39):
not like the US government on what it's done entirely,
but I do not hate every American. You know what,
like I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm but do you feel like sometimes if you're trying
to be so Switzerland, you can choose no side at all?
And that's and that there's a question. There's a paradoxes,
paradox of tolerance at some point where we go at
what point we can only stay so neutral for so
long for what we believe in? Right? And and and yes,
you and I are on radically different political points.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
That we can sit down without killing each other. Right,
we can't still have a conversation, whether it's political or
even comics, right, you know. And I don't mean to
keep dragging the whole political stuff. It's just I am
highly affected by what happened yesterday, and I apologize.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's very fresh because it was literally you know. And
also too, I mean, on the flip side, has also
happened on a college campus. I go every day to
a college campus and I walk around. I don't so
it's it's it feels unsafe. Let me on multiple levels.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Let me say this, and I pray to God, I
don't think you're that type of person. I really don't.
And I can cut this. You weren't one of the
people that are like Yah, ya when he was not
at all.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I would not.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Did you see the Sand Springs Middle school teacher? That
was like he deserved it? Apparently he's on leave now.
I called the school this morning and said, hey, you
have an issue. And it's not that I would usually
call like that, I want it. I don't generally call.
But he said something so disgusting about what happened yesterday
(22:24):
that I just and the school said, you're not the
first phone call, right, So it was. It's just I
don't think anyone should cheer for anyone's death, whether they
are a good person or a bad person in your opinion, period.
I don't wish in my opinion. I didn't like Joe Biden, okay,
(22:45):
but I didn't wish him death. I didn't like Kamala
when she was racing racing against Trump, but I didn't
wish her death. I don't wish anyone any type of death.
I don't wish you death. I don't wish anyone, you know.
I just it's let's live in peace and harm and
allow us to have those views. You know, like you
(23:05):
and I like you said, we're politically opposite, but we're here,
we're sitting down we're talking, and I think that's important.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You're doing a lot more of the talking though, You're correct, Okay,
So I'm just saying like yeah and so so. So
here's the catch what people fail to understand, especially with
people of American idealism. And I was, I mean, I'm
a military spouse. My I mean, I you know, my
my well, he's gonna be my ex husband. But and
that's and that's life. Life lives and and that's what
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life does. Right. But I was very proud to go
over and be a military spouse. I was proud, Uh
when he said, you know what I feel called to
to walk on to a team, Uh that's going to
go to Haiti after the earthquake, And I'm like, That's
what I signed up for. Right. My issue right now
is that is that I feel like my patriotism has
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been stripped from me by men carrying flags with red hats.
I have sung the national anthem more times than most
pop stars have at openings. Right. I've sung it, and
I sing it for the I've sung it for military
men and women, and so I feel like I have
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sung it for the most appreciative of audiences and the
men and women in the uniform that serve will also
sit and say and stand and tell you. This isn't
why they serve, right, It's not so that someone can
hold dominion over people. Right. But going back to that,
it's easy for us to separate, to push away, to
(24:44):
say you you you right. Let's say that this had
happened because I know a person who got fired right
for making a very stupid and ill timed post. And
it wasn't even celebratory. It was much more about holding
a mirror up to the h pocracy. That is rage
on both sides right when they get when anger comes
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up because we've been done wrong, but we're not willing
to look it in the face. And from the other
side as well.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And so if you mentioned that we're an emotional creature,
so regardless with this social media, with this UH, with
this able to contact everyone, we are so emotional that
we will just do we say what we exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, and so so it becomes easier and easier and
easier to call and take someone's livelihood away for what
was a moment of reactive anger, right, and so so
and that is now how we deal we deal in
schoolyard bullying. We deal in absolutes, right, black or white.
(25:52):
You're either for me or you're against me, or you're
either for what I believe or you're against what I
believe in. You're not just against what I believe because
we have a bitterness agreement where you were against who
I am as the core who I a person. That's
how that separation works, right, I can if I hadn't
come tonight and sile on the couch with you. And
I just seen a meme that you put up, which
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I've seen on Facebook enrolled and not engaged.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Because I've done the same to your posts as well. Exactly,
it's like whatever, I'm not gonna you know, it might
have not been you, but I'm sure I've left laughing
emojis on people's face, you know posts. Yeah, it's just
how I respond. I'm not getting so sorry for interrupting.
It's better for me to leave a laughing emoji on
your post than me comment. And because I will be
(26:38):
an ugly, nasty person, and I don't think people deserve it, right,
you know, And I don't want to be a nasty,
ugly person. I I And that's where my fiance has
taught me. She she is much more centered than I am.
That's good, and it's because she has a lot more
friends than me, if that makes any sense, and.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It doesn't make I mean she's a woman. That makes
all the sense.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I don't have as many friends as I should. Again,
she's a woman, and uh yeah, okay, no, no, but
I mean no, no, no, yeah, I mean I think
men with them on that subject. I think men, once
we have kids, we make our circle super smaller than
women because our circle becomes our kids. And we're not
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trying to neglect our wives or our spouses, baby mama's whatever,
if you're in the relationship with them, which I am,
it's just that we we become focused on that next
generation as men, and I feel like females they don't.
They're not necessarily not focused on the next generation. I'm
not saying that, it's just they they still want that
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focus from the man in the relationship as well. Like
that's what I'm getting from my fiance. Is I spend
so much time with my son. I love my son,
and I don't live with them right now. I'm trying
to move down and everything from still water. So right
now it's weekends and everything. So every time I see
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my son inseparable, and she's jealous about it. But at
the same time, it's like, I'm not here all the
time I need to be, and when I am, I'm
sure it will even hell, you know. And I mean
she tells me I spoil him. I'm like, yes, of
course I spoil him, because I'm not there twenty four
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to seven. If I was there twenty four to seven,
it's not like that, you know what I mean. It's
just it's complicated right now. Eventually when I move down there,
I gotta turn in two weeks, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, there's a.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Whole Moving your life is a big thing, right, I
get it. It's in state still, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Still moving your life. It's still packing up a house,
it's still going down the road, it's still finding a
new job. They're still you know, if I was moving
from Edmund to Norman and I wanted to make that change,
it's still be a big change, right and right now,
there is an epidemic of male loneliness. Men are withdrawing
from each other, from their wives. And I will tell
(29:15):
you this, and I will push back on this because
I'm not even though I have not had a child.
But I have had a marriage, yeah, and I've had
a failed marriage, and I will say that, Yes, you
love your son, you should love your daughter with the
same ferocity. The fact that that was.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
A lot SID hates me.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She doesn't hate you. She doesn't hate you. She screams
she's a baby. No, I don't know. But that's the
thing is like, So just even in that thing of
saying like, I love my son, I love my son,
I love my son. You know if I was your wife,
that would be a big thing. If I wasn't hearing
I love my son and my daughter equally, right, No,
you may feel it, but she needs to hear that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Number two of she's saying, I need to be the
priority sometimes. Guess what, my brother, She needs to be
the priority sometimes because she is the mother of your children,
and she needs to know that you not only have
their back, you have her back. And when she can
relax and she knows that you care about her, she
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can provide the love and the nurturing and everything, but
she needs to be the recipient of the love again
that made them. Don't ignore that, and especially not at
this point in your relationship, because five years from now
when some when she's saying, I've been asking you to
prioritize me and I'm leaving this really happens. And I'm
(30:40):
not trying to scare you, but I'm trying to scare you.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Communication is the number one reason that marriages fall apart. Well, okay, no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Did say I would put communication over financing.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, yeah, but I mean because I mean, like, if
you can't communicate, you can't even communicate about your finances, right,
So exactly, you know, I understand, and you wanna you
wanna be there, and I think it's wonderful you want
to be there for your kids and you want to
be there for that. But the truth is if she
is say and also think of it this way.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But isn't our kids the future, like that's the thing, Like,
I look at our kids.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Your what is your future like if you don't have
a relationship with their mother.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That's the thing, the future without Like that's a good question.
But at the same time, I.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Answer the most question first, answering the question.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Hold on at them. At the same time, I'm more
concerned about their well being into the future without her,
or I that's my biggest thought because I have been thinking, like,
my parents are getting in their age, like they're in
their seventies, sixties, and they're they're they're not getting to
live forever. My my fiance just lost her dad recently,
(31:54):
about a year or two ago, so it's still fresh
on her brain. And I mean, it's coming to the
back of my mind that what happens when they when
my parents are gone?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
And I mean, I want my children to be raised,
not necessarily the way I think, but I want them
to be able to ask those questions. I want them
to be able to be open minded. I don't want
them to be the conservative root. I'll openly admit. I
don't want them to be conservative conservatively rooted. I want
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them to be come one, open minded. And my fiance
has even told me, she's like, you do realize your
daughters probably can't be a liberal And I told her.
I was like, took a big, deep breath, and I
was like, as much as I do not like that,
I'm still gonna love her because it's not because she's
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my child, but it's because she has that mind to
rebel and to ask questions. That is my biggest thing.
I want my kids to ask questions. I want like
in grade school, when they're in school and they ask
the teacher why, and they get in trouble for it.
I'm gonna go up to school and be like why
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that's I'm getting back them. That's just how I am,
because they want to learn why that's that's not a
horrible question. Like if the teacher is like, you know,
World War two was so horrible and then moves on
why why was it so horrible? I mean, that's just
an example. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, I know. I mean teaching teaching children how teaching
children the joy of learning is a gift that will
will manifest and and and and double and triple. What
I'm saying is that right now, I my concern would.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Be this the relationship with my fiance.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Right. No, But then also to this this you're talking
about a baby being a liberal, Like how.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You know, I get it, I get I get No, No, no,
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
This was like what about the so what do we?
Why are we? Why are we? This goes back to
those tribal politics, right, instead of thinking my daughter is
going to grow up to be a confident, strong, intellectual version.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Shouldn't she be a confident verbal woman?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Right? But you didn't use any of those, You didn't
get any of those you so you immediately went to
she's probably gonna be a liberal. I'm not gonna like that,
but saying, but she might be a liberal, but as
long as she's a confident, well spoken, educated, articulate young woman.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But because educated nowadays, it's not college education in my opinion, Well,
and that's and and that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I mean, you're a I'm an academic, academic advisor. I
sit across from young people at people, I've from people.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Like you myself, and I've I've not to be offensive.
The last time I sat across a person like you,
an advisor like you, I told them college is a joke,
and they laughed in my face and said college is
the most important thing. And here I am today making
the living. I'm not happy with it, but it is
(35:08):
what it is. And I'm trying to make a thing
out of this comedy ow this podcast itself. And I
don't think I would learn this in college. In my opinion,
the only regret I have about college is there is
the broadcasting for me in journalism part of things which
(35:29):
I would love to learn, don't get me wrong, But
the part I don't like is the bullshit part where
you go through high school again. The first two years
of college, you're fucking getting repetitive high school learning, like catching,
like just to refresh your brain and everything. And then
your last two years are basically your major or your
(35:52):
last seven years, which whatever your major is, right, I
just like That's why I kind of like tech schools
better because tech schools directly go into that line of work.
I'm not shaming your work or shame in the any
university or anything. It's just as a as an advisor yourself.
(36:14):
I'm curious as a person like me that wants to
go back to college but doesn't want to go through
the bullshit of the high school academics to get to
that third year where you get to actually major. Well,
second to third year, I guess your sophomore year you're
supposed to commit to a major, give or take depends. Yeah,
(36:38):
that's what I've always grown up with. Like, by your
sophomore year, you're supposed to have your major. Maybe it's
aged out. I don't I don't know how it.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Depends on it's really it really does depend on the major.
It's going to depend on.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
On what you're You're still in the profession. I'm not.
I'm not in college. And that's that's why.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I'm telling you that. I'm my professional experience is saying
that it depends on the major. So if you're gonna
be an engineering major, you're probably gonna start that you're
starting that core course work at that freshman level. But
if you're gonna do something that's much more broad, let's say,
then you probably will be stacking your general education and
(37:16):
those preliminary courses in your first two years and then
focusing on something else right in your major specific classes.
Let me tell you right now, Yeah, you know this college.
I work at an institution.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like, I'm not trying to shame institution, don't. I don't
just as an advisor. Like, what's the I'm sorry for
cutting you off. I apologize. What's the purpose of general
education when we already went through general education first through twelve? Like?
What was that purpose?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Okay? The reason I'm laughing is I'm I'm actually a
trainer on the campus, and I train academic advisors. I
don't think you're.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Laughing at me. Oh no, I'm not I've.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Literally had this this same and general education conversation. This
is gonna be my fourth time today talking about it.
It's so funny that because this just happened to be
the topic that I was teaching, I'm really curious everything.
So okay, so here's the catch. Post secondary education as
we know it, So academia you may know at that
(38:16):
college universities, that was created by a social ele social
elite class. Okay, so it was created to produce higher thinkers.
They studied the philosophers, Socrates, Plato, right, and this would
have been all of the social elites. So we're talking
like your Harvard Well, well you're Doamas Jefferson's, you're Alexander
(38:40):
Hamilton's rich white elite men. That is what academia was
for for its first you know, one hundred two hundred
years of existence, right, Well in Columbia.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Last we're only two hundred and forty nine years.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, yeah, but it started even before we were in
actual like country. We had we had, we had.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Institution, relish rule.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, before the Revolutionary War, we were already you know
Colombia and things like that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Those places existed, right, Columbia is the oldest universe.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't know necessarily the history of that, right, So,
but those northern.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Continue.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
So so our general education foundational classes. Right, they change
from state to state to state. So the oh you board,
and excuse me, the state Board of Regents sets forth
like all of these rules, and they say anybody, well,
no or But there's different regions. So the state Board
of Regents will say, okay, every person who has an
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associate's degree in anything or bachelor's degree will have completed
at least this litany of classes, of which six hours
of English, three hours of history, three hours of American
federal government, social sciences, humanities course works, math, those kinds
of things. And that is because the goal of academia
(39:58):
back in the day was to make you a well
rounded person so that you could sit in polite company
and talk about multiple different kinds of conversation. Right, So
that's how it started. It has become through the years,
a more transactional commodity. Right, So we've gone from this
(40:21):
from this piece of paper, this diploma being a greater good,
to it being transactional. I am paying you x amount.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Of doll or extra money to repeat.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
But but it's not. It shows a lot more things
than what you're seeing. You are seeing I'm paying this
and I'm taking this class, and I've done this right
a degree.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
This is my experience as I get college students.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's not for everyone. It's absolutely not. And I've sat
across from students and said, maybe this isn't for you
right now. I'm a believer that everybody should have access
and the ability to go, but it does mean it's
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
I love how you said it's not for everybody now,
or it's not for you right now. I my advisor
said this is one not for you. You should just
drop the fuck out. Those were their exact words. They
were like, and I was making b's and c's, okay.
The only course I was making a C in was
(41:23):
my history or a political course. And I hate to
say it, the t professor that was teaching the course
was far far even more far than you, in my opinion,
In my opinion, okay, far very far left, because even
if I spoke about the Founding Father, she graded it
(41:45):
as a D or F. I'm like, this is history
that I learned in school, and you're telling me I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I don't know your class situations.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
This was Northern Oklahoma College OC. This was ten years ago, right,
so I'm not but it's just like that that amazed me.
And I don't think she's teaching it moore, to be honest,
but it just amazed me that I even asked. It
was a class of about twenty two students and we
all grew, we all had studies together, and I asked
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all the students like, hey, where are you guys? Where
are your guys' grades? Because I was averaging A FTD
back and forth to F and D because of my
papers and everything I was fucking bringing back in And
they're like, we're averaging a's and b's. It's like, what
are your papers looking like? And they're like, well, we
(42:37):
just listened to the professor and we just follow her instructions.
It's like, but it's not right, Like she's not teaching
it correctly like this, and this is just from my
high school knowledge, you know, Like I was a freshman.
It was just new to me, and I was just like,
this isn't what I learned, and she she wasn't teaching
it correctly at all in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Well, but that doesn't mean that she was teaching you
the truth.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I don't. You don't like was eventually fired.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Do you know that you absolutely know that in a
situation where she was let go for teaching falsehoods? Or
was she?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't know if you're correct, right.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
See that's the thing. It's like this, this whole like
oh the elite. She was right. That's the thing that
See what that's an opinion. That's your opinion that you're
stating is fact, and that is the issue.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't think it was an opinion. It isn't.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
It is absolutely opinion. She wasn't teaching it right? What
is right? Whose definition? Who is the one who.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Holds what was right? Oklahoma academics was still under which
is far left, well well not far left, but still
leaning leftwards in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
A slant can be have you ever heard of something.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Called love this? I love it, I love it. Let's
get into it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Cognitive bias. I love you, cognitive because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm just I don't so say that again.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Cognitive bias. So, if you are looking, if you were
looking to be wronged in a situation.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I was actually open to it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Well that's the thing is. But if you're looking for
something to be wrong in a situation, you will absolutely
one hundred and ten percent find it. So if you're
if you are looking at something being wrong, something not
being taught correctly or not you have an opinion about it,
then absolutely that is what you're going to see. The
other day, I was I was eating lunch at the
cafeteria on campus and I overheard too freshmen talking and
(44:31):
one was in a polypsyd class. And that generally means
American federal government. So that's everybody has to take it
across the board because you should know about how the
American government works, whether or not you like the people
in power. You need to understand civics.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
It's it's three different branches that.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Exactly you should understand how it functions.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Absolutely, and so there's that's what our country was built on, right,
but liberal or Republican, that's just what our country was
built on. With three.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
No, no, no, no, no, you sound annoyed. It's just I
can't never like get like a full sentence out.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I know that I'm trying to. I'm trying to learn.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
No, it's okay, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
You're the first person that's actually mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, okay, So the the and now I've lost my
train of thought. And also too but chet that is
playing in the background, so it's all like whoo, but.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
We're talking about No, you were talking about how that
the university.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, oh the opinion, and like right right, So I
have students who sit across all the time for me
and say things like, well, they shouldn't be allowed to
teach because they're not from this country. If we didn't
allow our instructors to come from all over the world,
the amount of information that we would be allowed to
(45:56):
have would be so siloed. And you can't grow in
a silo, you can't. Silos are built to contain things.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
They they're not. They are not. They are built to
contain things that help other things grow. But you do
not grow in a silo. You can only grow in
the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Now, can you agree that Nazis were professors in Alabama?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Though that Nazis were professors and al.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
There was a Nazi program at the University of Tuskegee
that was for NASA to build space rockets. Did you
not know that? No, Tuskegee, Alabama is the highest population
of German. German population in the United States because we
took during Operation paper Clip. I don't know if you're familiar.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I've heard of something like that. It's I just haven't
done a deep dive. Operation Killer subject.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I apologize. Operation paper Clip was the mission to collect
every German scientist that we could get before the Soviets
could get them. It's a race between the Soviets and that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
We understood our you know, our frenemies.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Exactly, so we collected every German we could, transplanting them
into Tuskegee, Alabama, where they did scientific continued with their
German experiments basically Tuskegeearman. That and also they discovered NASA.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
That was the wrong No, no, no, but but I
get what.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I get what you were saying, not to Skegemen, but
experiment all that spraying chemicals across, yes, or even injecting,
not necessarily spraying, but injecting really yes, exactly, but uh.
They they also invented the space rocket as well. We
beat supposedly we beat Russia to the moon. I'm still optimistic.
(47:49):
I would like to see a redone. I I as
much as we disagree, I think we agree a lot too.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I'm sure there are things like a moral code.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Like I mentioned in the beginning, I'm a constitutionalist more
than a conservative. The reason I became a constitutionist, as
silly as it sounds, it's Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
And other allies.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
And it was in a comedy set of his. He
was talking about the Constitution and how the Founding Fathers
made the Constitution and everything, and like, if the Founding
Fathers were alive today, they'd be like, you didn't add
to anything, you didn't keep adding. And that's my thing.
That's why I'm a constitutionalist at heart. Is this may
(48:39):
be sensitive the Roe versus Wade m it's not constitutional,
and I agree with it's not constitutional, but hear me
out before, if you want it to be constitutional and
amend it to be constitutional, then I agree. I have
no issues with it, you know what I mean, Like,
as long as in the Constitution, that's just how I
(49:04):
Maybe it sounds silly, but it's something we should live
by in my opinion. I mean, that's why our Founding fathers.
Really the last time we or ratified the amendments was
in ninety two, nineteen ninety two, and that was for
a pay race for Congress.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Well, they'll take care of themselves first, and foremost. So yeah,
I guess this is about to be set ablaze. I
am not a constitutionalist. And the reason I am not
a constitutionalist is there was nothing about me in the
writing of the Constitution. I wasn't even considered a human.
The writing of the Constitution me as I am. I
(49:44):
am a woman of I'm an American woman of Mexican descent,
so I'm a woman of color. I would not I mean,
you know, if black men were only a percentage, women
were nothing at all, right, and a woman of color
menus less. Right. So yes, I mean there's true acts
(50:05):
of true brilliance. And yes it was designed to be
built upon but it hadn't the founding fathers. Hell Jefferson
owned slaves. Washington owned slaves. Right, So when I think
of this holy holly, holy Constitution, that constitution is written
(50:26):
in the dipped in the ink of that is blood
saturated with indigenous people who were on the land first.
It is it is dipped on the back of backs
of slavery that built the South. Right, we were not
part of the conversation when the Constitutional Constitution was written,
and so it's needed a lot of fixing to include
(50:47):
a lot of people and it still needs fixing. It
is a work in progress, and that is how we
should see it, not as some archaic, biblical thing that
we need to coast our future into. If we were
building our future based on technology of the past, we'd
still be standing next to a wall talking and using
a finger to do a dial. Instead, we're walking around
(51:09):
with high powered computers in our pocket because we move
forward and people in the Constitution they want to hold
it so tight, hold it open, hold it open, and
allow it to grow and breathe and include more people,
because that is how growth happens.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
You sound like a constitutionalist. I'm not trying to offend you,
but what you just said is exactly what I stand for.
I want the Constitution to grow, I want amendments, I
want more to it. It shouldn't be at.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Twenty so most constitutions just don't. They want it black
and white.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
You're correct, You're correct, But I'm not the same. And
I think that's what sitting down with you and you
you seeing me for who instead of seeing DMS and
everything I can do AI Trump, Chris Data, hell, would
you love to this?
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Don't make me vomit in my mouth. Please, don't make
me vomit in my mouth. That's gonna be real ugly.
I could handle those, but like just doing it in
front of me, it's like it's too ick.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
But it's too Hey, you do improv right.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I do improm.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Is. She's a great woman, fantastic woman. She's one of
the ones we'll keep around. No, no, you like that one?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
No? Actually yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
See.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Here's the thing about racist humor is that if you're
gonna do racist humor, it's gotta be isn'tna be fake?
Speaker 1 (52:27):
You have to admit my racist humor. And that message
kind of hit though it was pretty funny. You Hey,
you're here.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I am here. I am here.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I mean offended by that.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
I was offended. I'm a recovering alcoholic. That's what I said.
I'm a recovering alcohol It's gonna take a lot more
to offend me. But on the flip side, when you asked,
I was like, I don't really know. He knows what
he's asking for, you know, And so I was like, sure,
I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I love's a challenge. I love, but a lot to
rope in.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
The big thing is I love the open conversation regardless.
That's the thing good, and I mean being at nine
eleven the day after someone had the open conversation that
was assassinated. I think we should keep that open conversation.
I told my fiance because she messaged me. She's like,
you can pick do whatever you want to do, like
be be that political voice if you want to be,
(53:16):
but like, just no, I don't want to be part
of it. And I'm like, if I chose that political
voice to be to pick up the torch after him,
it would be an arenas. I'm not getting do open
air first off, but also I'm not interested and necessarily
diving that deep into that field. I want to keep
it in the comedy realm. I want to be open
(53:41):
to the mind. That's why I've had you on. I've
had Democrat candidates on politicians like I'm open to the
idea of hearing you guys out and everything. And I
think we've had a great communication, Like we've obviously disagreed
he was there, But at the same time, I'm not
gonna sound a roof and wait for you you know, well, no,
(54:03):
I think that's disgusting in it.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
So there's a great Netflix show. Shout out to John,
Like Guizamo who's not going to be listening to this,
but if he was, I love you.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
John Legizamo is SID. He's what sid from? Isn't he
sid from ice Age?
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yes? He is SID for myce age, and so I
know him from his one man shows and in actuality.
His work has actually inspired my one woman show just
in the writing of it, right, because I look, I
started off in in acting. That's I'm an actress and
a singer and an improviser, comedian kind of person. But
those things came later to my acting and singing and
(54:43):
so but I had a certain look because I was
from five to one. I was way heavier back in
the day. So I've lost in my life in my transformation.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yes, And I was going to make a funny comment.
I was like, uh, is it are you? Did you
lose weight now?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
But and I was like, I'm about to have her
on the podcast. I don't want to piss her off.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
And yeah, yeah, I know. The weight loss has been tremendous.
I mean since my top weight one sixty in the
last year almost one hundred, so that's a lot of weight.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Can we take a break so I can go pee?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I have to be I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Hello, Mark Trotter, how are you?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I'm good? How are you good? Welcome to the Heally Cast,
the Hey Freeman, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
How do you do it good?
Speaker 1 (55:34):
How are you good? Hello? Marty? Oh hey buddy? What's
up man? How are you doing next? How are you doing?
What's your real name?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
What's your government name?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
That is my first question. I'm just gonna go right
off the bat and just JJ wood.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (55:51):
A long time listener, first time guest.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
All have headphones now? Hy hee? Whar were you born?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Ninety seven? Ninety six? Crights?
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Technically you're a nineties baby, but you missed half of it.
M
All right, we're going just our heads up, no problem, Okay,
I didn't give you a warning or anything. We're just live.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'll go.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's how I do my podcast though, Like I just
go into it generally, like if we have a conversation
going great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
If we don't, it is, well, that would be for
a really boring podcast. If we don't have a conversation.
I would hate to try to be on the other
side of listening to this, Like, no conversation that was
profound if it was twenty minutes with silence.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
There has been times like that. That's when I get
too drunk.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah oh yeah, No, by all means that's you do you,
you do you.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Only you have a few drinks. I'm not trying to
get too wild. My idol, that's funny as it says
as it sounds. My idol is Joe Rogan. Uh huh yeah,
to live more by what he says, okay, like diet wise,
like the Carnival diet. I want to be more healthier
because I have kids now, hmm, I want to be
around longer.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So I I understand you probably don't fully agree with
Joe Rogan's political things. Neither do I, you know, we
we probably I want to dive straight into the whole thing.
But right, well no, no, no, no, Hi, Crystilla Hi, and
it is Crystilla, right, Pristella. I just want to make
(01:22):
sure pronounce your last name cars Alis carries out.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Cars a yeah. So yeah, so Crystella cares Aalis and
so yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I I I uh so. Before we even get into
this whole debate, not necessarily even a debate, I want
to make sure after we're done with this, you're not
gonna shoot me.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't. I don't own a gun, so the last
thing I'll do is maybe shoot you daggers in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And I would like to ask you as well. Can
we both agree that violence is not the answer?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Absolutely violence after what has happened recently. Yeah, even even
if you did, even if you didn't agree with the
young man that has lost his life, I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Want you to lose their life. And what they've said,
that's a ridiculous, ridiculous thing.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And I didn't agree fully with him. I mean I
did agree a lot with him, I'll admit, and you
probably know that just with our.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
But he.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's really this is the first time I actually cried
for a person I truly didn't even know or meet,
Like I mean people I know people that cried over
Kobe Bryant and stuff like that. The reason I have
poured out tears for this young gentleman is he's about
a year two years older than me myself. He inspired me,
(02:47):
along with Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn Bert Kreischer, to start
this as well. He's the side like for this podcast.
He's the side where I'm curious on politics period. I
don't want I want to disrupt people and upset people.
I'll tease you, you see that, as long as you
can take teasing back, that's fine. Yeah, It's just it's
(03:10):
My fiance last night told me I need to find
my own voice. I need to choose a path. And
I mean, I'm not necessarily a political podcaster. I am
a political comedian. I'll joke about both sides. I'll openly
admit that, but I'm not necessarily a political podcast. I
have had politicians on, but it's to learn. I want
(03:34):
the podcast is based to learn. I want people to
learn along with me. That's why, Like, if I have
someone that is a big figure on that upsets other people.
That's fine, but I'm just asking questions. Sure, maybe I
endorse them for political figures or political office, but at
(03:54):
the same time, doesn't mean come after me. It's just
my opinion. Have your own opinion, you know, and I'm
I'm not gonna come after you for your own put.
You know your opinion. I think we all should have
an open communication.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh absolutely, I agree. Yeah, we should be able to
disagree with one another and it not be a.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Leave me because like I've been seeing so many comments online.
Sure they are hateful, it's like no one, it's just the.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Thing about so so the thing about anger.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't mean to start it like this.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh it's fine. I mean I want to.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Get to know you as well.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But well there's no better way to get to know
me than now than asking questions like.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, especially with the climate.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right, well, the issue I think a lot of times
is that people people studies are showing right now that
while we are technologically more connected than we've ever been
in real in life, we are more isolated and alone
than we have ever been in.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Lightly right, So everything is internet, and.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Everything is internet, every all communications.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Are are It's not in person and in person like
Charlie was the in person, right.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
He was showing up. He was showing up and talking
to people instead of.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Behind a keyboard, which is what I do guys.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right, Yeah, And and I am less that way, right,
So every time I am I'm not. I mean, I've done.
I've been in a movie. I've been in you know
a couple of things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I've We'll get to that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Absolutely, yeah, my my forty seven seconds of fame. Absolutely,
I will regale you with the tale.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But the way he said that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It is, it is No, it's so true, it is.
It is highly It's such an epic.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Was it like King of Tulsa King or something?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It was not, thankfully, Tulsa King was experience.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Do I know who kevon taga Zeta?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I do know familiar? I mean we he and I've met.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He was in Tulsa King. He was, Yeah, apparently as
a background and he was and he was he was
in a Twisters was he? Yeah? He was the last
So as.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The last Brown gotta get blown away? Is that what happened?
It's Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, he if in the last scene go into the
credits when they're zooming out. You can see him in
the crowd or in the right before the credits.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You can see that's awesome. Well, good for him. No,
there is you know, there is something to be said
about checking that box. But all right, let me go
back to my.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Sorry, yeah, no, I got off the objects. It's okay,
I can see this is what the podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I hope you have good editing skills.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sorry, there is no editing.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
There is no editing. Blame him, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Do you blame me?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So we the thing is, yeah, we're so we're so disconnected,
we're so we're so away from each other, We're so
separate from one another that it becomes easier and easier
and easier to be mean. Because I don't have to
be in your energy. I don't have to be in
your presence. I don't. I can work remote, I can
(07:05):
study remote, I can text you, I can never pick
up the phone. I can I can do all those
things and never actually I can communicate with you with
ever actually ever having to be in your energy. And
the second that we are in people's energies, everything else
comes with it. Right, tone, intention it's harder, Brenne Brown
(07:27):
says in one of her books. I don't know. I've
I've read a lot of them so that I get
them mixed up. It's it's hard to hate up close.
You gotta lean in, and.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So you speaking on that. So I haven't. I've never
hated you. I've always kind of like just like from
our interaction, I've kind of joked about, like not even
with people, just in my mind, I've joked about you, like, ah,
just harmless jokes, you know, no no, no, no, no, no,
don't no, no, no, no, just it's like, oh, like opening.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Lines or creepers say. I mean, that's kind of what
that sounded like. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Thanks for pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's not a problem, keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But I mean, how far when we met in Aaron's
office in the office over here, the energy to me
was clean, it was fine, hmm, you know, like I
mean through that's the thing. Through Facebook message or through
text message, you can get a whole different vibe. Because
in my mind, I was like, h this might be
(08:27):
interesting with her, you know, like, and that's why initially,
that's why I did invite you. Because we're two separate,
we're on the different spectrum. We are we are, but
at the same time, I'll walk away from this and
I'll start just We're only not even ten minutes in,
so people are still listening.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Seven subjects right, so people.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Are still listening. They listen to about eleven minutes, so
people are listening. I want to say, this is it? Like,
even when I walk away from this, I have no
hate towards you. I don't want to climb building and
wait for you to speak your mind and assassinate you.
I think it's crazy the world we are living in today.
(09:09):
I don't think it's acceptable at all. No, and like
I hope you feel the same. Like I may say
some radical ship that you don't disagree, that you disagree.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
With, Oh excellent, okay, yeah, no I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh yeah, this is a fucking yeah. Walls to the walls.
I don't give a ship.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Excellent, excellent.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Kids will eventually watch this.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I have a I have a four month daughter, oh yeah,
so sweet, and I have a one I want to
say about one and a half nineteen month old child
or son, so child, of course, I mean the given
and they're they're amazing, they're amazing, They're amazing. I do
have to admit the daughter and I do not get
(09:54):
it along, just because I think she's so young, you know,
so she's still attached to the boob and everything. So
she when I hold her, she's looking for my nipple.
I might stay away from there, but that's that's literally
what I've learned, even with my son when he was
her age. That's what they their senses are. They are,
(10:14):
so if you're holding them like this, they're always leaning
towards a side, trying to because they know there's a
nipple if they lean to a side. Yeah, now I
have chest hair, so it's not going to be as
nice as their mom.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But you know, fortunately they don't have any teeth for
it to get like stuck.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
In Hey, but what their mom has said, it's not pleasant.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, it's not. I mean, I know I have never
had a child.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Really, was you a mother?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Now I am not a mother?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I ask why? Or is that too since?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Again? No, I I have a no. I'm actually doing
a show at the Theater Crew Frinch Festival here in
Oklahoma City. My show is called Begin Again Badge, Begin
Again Badge. It's a one woman's show. It's based on
my story, which is a journey of infertility and alcoholism
and divorce, Oh no, it's okay, and dating apps, and
(11:06):
so it's actually gonna be funny because I mean, I'm
a funny I'd like to think I'm a funny person,
but I.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Can already tell you're a funny person, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But it's that's the thing about it, is that that
so many women suffer from infertility by themselves. They feel
like it's a it's an incredibly lonely affliction. And so
because people don't talk about it openly, because it's such
a shame field subject, I have made the personal choice
to stand on a soapbox and talk about infertility openly
(11:37):
and honestly and as painful as it actually is. So no,
I don't have a problem, but I would say that
I would just FYI. I mean, not everybody will be
as open as as I am about it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I love that because my mom, she didn't necessarily have infertility.
I don't want to put her on the spot, but
my father and her when they were married, their DNA
was so close for some reason, like just I don't know, okay, And.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That was a joke. That was a joke that was
Rogan would have.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm adopted, So it doesn't it doesn't matter about those people. Okay,
but you may be right. They their DNA was so
close that when she would get pregnant, the DNA would
reject the specimen, is right. Yeah, so I do have
to ask you. They before I asked you this question.
(12:30):
They then were open to adoption. They looked into US
adoptions first, and they did see the during the time
in the nineties. May be wrong. I don't have a producer.
I will have a producer eventually. His name's Mason. He's
going He has agreed to produce for me, and said,
(12:50):
long as long as I pay him in beer.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's a really good way to pay a producer. Oh yeah,
I would pay a producer that. And I'm recovering alcoholic right, yeah,
you're recovering cover that much.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So I was adopted. My parents they looked into the
US first and kind of discovered that their the children
in the US had more problems than they were willing
to take on. I'm not, you know, shaming them on that.
It's their preference. So they went outside of the United States.
First place was obviously China, very popular at that time,
(13:27):
but the only children they had were girls. My dad
that I know is my dad today. He was strong
on a boy. So they went to the Eastern European
Bloc or Old Eastern European Old Soviet countries, Belarus, Romania,
(13:48):
which is where I'm from. I'm from Romania, and they
found me. The only reason they found me and chose
me was my mother's father used to own a ranch,
not necessarily a ranch. He owned eighty acres and he
ran her for cattle, the red and white cattle. And
(14:08):
in my photo for the adoption agency, I was holding
a stuff her for cow in my picture.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, And my mom, I don't know if you're religious
or anything, but my mom said that was a sign
from God that this is our child.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Nice. Yeah, you know, I mean I look, I mean,
I don't look for signs.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I mean I don't necessarily either. But and I haven't
been religious for a long time, but twenty twenty five
and maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Cause you to cry out to Jesus this year will
cause you to cry.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I may not agree with me on this, but when
I saw that assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, that really
opened my eyes because I don't if it had been
Biden that was assassinated attempt on him and he survived.
I'd still feel the same way regardless, because that's a miracle.
(15:04):
And to me, that's the grace of God protecting someone
that he's not ready to welcome home in my opinion.
And we can disagree. I see your face, but that's.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Just I have a completely different slant. But I'm listening. Yeah,
and mine is he missed. No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And also too, there's there's something to be said about
our significant age difference, you know, I mean, there's there.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They're not much older than me.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh absolutely, I am. I'm not gonna tell you, but
I mean you can camera will Yeah, it's a tiny
bit older than that. No, So yeah, thank you. Though,
I appreciate that I work at a very large SEC
institution in the state.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Of Oklahoma, Southeastern Conference, the one that's.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Recently you know, gone over to.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
The Okay I know what she's talking.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
About, right, And so being around that particular energy, I
think for as many years as I've been at that
institution keeps my spirit quite young. And uh, and then
my mom gave me really good skin, so and I
took care of it so, and I give the tattoos too,
thank you. These are family Well, okay, they're not.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That gives me hope because I'm looking at your arms.
You're not wrinkly.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I'm saggy, but I'm not necessarily wrinkly.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You're not saggy either, like those tattoos still look clean. Well,
thank you, because have you ever seen the post? When
you're old, your your tattoos are gonna look all wrinkly
and fucked up. Yeah, you guys, look at her tattoos.
They're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Thank you. Well, and here's the couch. I didn't actually
get them until I was older, because I really know,
I was in my forties when I got them. So
I've already given you a hint of I said in
my forties and.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So so only a few years ago, oh, a few
years ago, a couple five minutes, five minutes, five minutes minutes.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Before we started, I turned, I turned right over right
before we started this interview. So so on this arm,
I is my very very first tattoo. Is a y
and an amper sand in an s and the ampersand
is also looks like an E and that is for yes,
and which is basically the the beginning impetus of improv
(17:17):
If we're showing tattoos, oh, we're gonna go. So, yes,
only they're only on my arm, in my and my leg.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I mean they're only on my arm too, but I.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Can't okay, So okay, well you're doing that. I'll finish
the tour. And so then this particular one with the
heart and in the sun is this is my mother's
memorial tattoo when she gets all undressed for her I
know I didn't even ask for this. We have we
haven't even fully covered one topic except she's.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
A cougar guy.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I am totally g I double er okay, yeah, so this.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Is what he's got.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I know, I'm such an influence. That's that's me. Sorry, no,
this is so, this is this is my mom's tattoo.
It was it's a it's a heart and the sun
because she used to always seeing you or my son
shine to me. Where So that's that?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh I see the Yeah, so it's like a it's
a it's a rote. Well I took you as a rose.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah you could see that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Gros so I didn't see the that's beautiful yea. Also
when I first saw it because I didn't see the
center that was a sublime.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It does, it does give sublime. I thank you. I'll
never unsee that. No, I saw that before you said that. Yeah,
And then this one is these are both family tats
as well. This is all my girl cousins one day
all got the same tattoo.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The forty six.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So the forty six is my mother's birthday, and so
all of my girl cousins we have an infinity sign.
See is for the last name cares aals. Forty six
is for our Casalis family members that their birth they
were born. So I have forty six. My other three
cousins have forty nine, and then another one has like.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Mom was born nine years later, nine years later, fifty three,
fifty three, ok, yeah, so yeah, my uncle was born
right at that time.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So we we got those. And then this is my
memorial tattoo to my thea who.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like three days he is a grandmother.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's an aunt, so my aunt my mother is is grandmother.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh on, why is a a buela? The A is
for female bla low would be grandfather right right?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So yeah, so that's how masculine and feminine vowels works.
If it's the O in the so I learned.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I learned a low Spanish. I got through Spanish one with.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's hey, as long as you remember.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know, I'm engaged to a Latin woman.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You are engaged to Latin.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Congratulations, has two kids with a Latin woman. Good for you,
well done, you know, way to marry up. Open your eyes.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I get it. Yeah, so I can come off a
bit like my Even my fiance says, you're a little
bit racist. I'm like, listen, I'm not. It's not. I
don't think it's racism. It's more I hate the governments
like so, I speak out against Israel m M, but
I also speak out against Palestine as well, because I
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hate both governments. The Palestinian government, the Palestinians voted for
Hamas to be the government in their region. I don't
like that. I support the Palestinians at the same time,
but I don't like their decision that they chose those leaders.
I do not hate every Jew in the world, but
I do not agree with the Jewish government. I do
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not like the US government on what it's done entirely,
but I do not hate every American. You know what,
like I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm but do you feel like sometimes if you're trying
to be so Switzerland, you can choose no side at all?
And that's and that there's a question. There's a paradoxes,
paradox of tolerance at some point where we go at
what point we can only stay so neutral for so
long for what we believe in? Right? And and and yes,
you and I are on radically different political points.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
That we can sit down without killing each other. Right,
we can't still have a conversation, whether it's political or
even comics, right, you know. And I don't mean to
keep dragging the whole political stuff. It's just I am
highly affected by what happened yesterday, and I apologize.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's very fresh because it was literally you know. And
also too, I mean, on the flip side, has also
happened on a college campus. I go every day to
a college campus and I walk around. I don't so
it's it's it feels unsafe. Let me on multiple levels.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Let me say this, and I pray to God, I
don't think you're that type of person. I really don't.
And I can cut this. You weren't one of the
people that are like Yah, ya when he was not
at all.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I would not.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Did you see the Sand Springs Middle school teacher? That
was like he deserved it? Apparently he's on leave now.
I called the school this morning and said, hey, you
have an issue. And it's not that I would usually
call like that, I want it. I don't generally call.
But he said something so disgusting about what happened yesterday
(22:24):
that I just and the school said, you're not the
first phone call, right, So it was. It's just I
don't think anyone should cheer for anyone's death, whether they
are a good person or a bad person in your opinion, period.
I don't wish in my opinion. I didn't like Joe Biden, okay,
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but I didn't wish him death. I didn't like Kamala
when she was racing racing against Trump, but I didn't
wish her death. I don't wish anyone any type of death.
I don't wish you death. I don't wish anyone, you know.
I just it's let's live in peace and harm and
allow us to have those views. You know, like you
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and I like you said, we're politically opposite, but we're here,
we're sitting down we're talking, and I think that's important.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You're doing a lot more of the talking though, You're correct, Okay,
So I'm just saying like yeah and so so. So
here's the catch what people fail to understand, especially with
people of American idealism. And I was, I mean, I'm
a military spouse. My I mean, I you know, my
my well, he's gonna be my ex husband. But and
that's and that's life. Life lives and and that's what
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life does. Right. But I was very proud to go
over and be a military spouse. I was proud, Uh
when he said, you know what I feel called to
to walk on to a team, Uh that's going to
go to Haiti after the earthquake, And I'm like, That's
what I signed up for. Right. My issue right now
is that is that I feel like my patriotism has
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been stripped from me by men carrying flags with red hats.
I have sung the national anthem more times than most
pop stars have at openings. Right. I've sung it, and
I sing it for the I've sung it for military
men and women, and so I feel like I have
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sung it for the most appreciative of audiences and the
men and women in the uniform that serve will also
sit and say and stand and tell you. This isn't
why they serve, right, It's not so that someone can
hold dominion over people. Right. But going back to that,
it's easy for us to separate, to push away, to
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say you you you right. Let's say that this had
happened because I know a person who got fired right
for making a very stupid and ill timed post. And
it wasn't even celebratory. It was much more about holding
a mirror up to the h pocracy. That is rage
on both sides right when they get when anger comes
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up because we've been done wrong, but we're not willing
to look it in the face. And from the other
side as well.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And so if you mentioned that we're an emotional creature,
so regardless with this social media, with this UH, with
this able to contact everyone, we are so emotional that
we will just do we say what we exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, and so so it becomes easier and easier and
easier to call and take someone's livelihood away for what
was a moment of reactive anger, right, and so so
and that is now how we deal we deal in
schoolyard bullying. We deal in absolutes, right, black or white.
(25:52):
You're either for me or you're against me, or you're
either for what I believe or you're against what I
believe in. You're not just against what I believe because
we have a bitterness agreement where you were against who
I am as the core who I a person. That's
how that separation works, right, I can if I hadn't
come tonight and sile on the couch with you. And
I just seen a meme that you put up, which
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I've seen on Facebook enrolled and not engaged.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Because I've done the same to your posts as well. Exactly,
it's like whatever, I'm not gonna you know, it might
have not been you, but I'm sure I've left laughing
emojis on people's face, you know posts. Yeah, it's just
how I respond. I'm not getting so sorry for interrupting.
It's better for me to leave a laughing emoji on
your post than me comment. And because I will be
(26:38):
an ugly, nasty person, and I don't think people deserve it, right,
you know, And I don't want to be a nasty,
ugly person. I I And that's where my fiance has
taught me. She she is much more centered than I am.
That's good, and it's because she has a lot more
friends than me, if that makes any sense, and.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It doesn't make I mean she's a woman. That makes
all the sense.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I don't have as many friends as I should. Again,
she's a woman, and uh yeah, okay, no, no, but
I mean no, no, no, yeah, I mean I think
men with them on that subject. I think men, once
we have kids, we make our circle super smaller than
women because our circle becomes our kids. And we're not
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trying to neglect our wives or our spouses, baby mama's whatever,
if you're in the relationship with them, which I am,
it's just that we we become focused on that next
generation as men, and I feel like females they don't.
They're not necessarily not focused on the next generation. I'm
not saying that, it's just they they still want that
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focus from the man in the relationship as well. Like
that's what I'm getting from my fiance. Is I spend
so much time with my son. I love my son,
and I don't live with them right now. I'm trying
to move down and everything from still water. So right
now it's weekends and everything. So every time I see
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my son inseparable, and she's jealous about it. But at
the same time, it's like, I'm not here all the
time I need to be, and when I am, I'm
sure it will even hell, you know. And I mean
she tells me I spoil him. I'm like, yes, of
course I spoil him, because I'm not there twenty four
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to seven. If I was there twenty four to seven,
it's not like that, you know what I mean. It's
just it's complicated right now. Eventually when I move down there,
I gotta turn in two weeks, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, there's a.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Whole Moving your life is a big thing, right, I
get it. It's in state still, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Still moving your life. It's still packing up a house,
it's still going down the road, it's still finding a
new job. They're still you know, if I was moving
from Edmund to Norman and I wanted to make that change,
it's still be a big change, right and right now,
there is an epidemic of male loneliness. Men are withdrawing
from each other, from their wives. And I will tell
(29:15):
you this, and I will push back on this because
I'm not even though I have not had a child.
But I have had a marriage, yeah, and I've had
a failed marriage, and I will say that, Yes, you
love your son, you should love your daughter with the
same ferocity. The fact that that was.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
A lot SID hates me.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She doesn't hate you. She doesn't hate you. She screams
she's a baby. No, I don't know. But that's the
thing is like, So just even in that thing of
saying like, I love my son, I love my son,
I love my son. You know if I was your wife,
that would be a big thing. If I wasn't hearing
I love my son and my daughter equally, right, No,
you may feel it, but she needs to hear that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Number two of she's saying, I need to be the
priority sometimes. Guess what, my brother, She needs to be
the priority sometimes because she is the mother of your children,
and she needs to know that you not only have
their back, you have her back. And when she can
relax and she knows that you care about her, she
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can provide the love and the nurturing and everything, but
she needs to be the recipient of the love again
that made them. Don't ignore that, and especially not at
this point in your relationship, because five years from now
when some when she's saying, I've been asking you to
prioritize me and I'm leaving this really happens. And I'm
(30:40):
not trying to scare you, but I'm trying to scare you.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Communication is the number one reason that marriages fall apart. Well, okay, no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Did say I would put communication over financing.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, yeah, but I mean because I mean, like, if
you can't communicate, you can't even communicate about your finances, right,
So exactly, you know, I understand, and you wanna you
wanna be there, and I think it's wonderful you want
to be there for your kids and you want to
be there for that. But the truth is if she
is say and also think of it this way.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But isn't our kids the future, like that's the thing, Like,
I look at our kids.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Your what is your future like if you don't have
a relationship with their mother.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That's the thing, the future without Like that's a good question.
But at the same time, I.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Answer the most question first, answering the question.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Hold on at them. At the same time, I'm more
concerned about their well being into the future without her,
or I that's my biggest thought because I have been thinking, like,
my parents are getting in their age, like they're in
their seventies, sixties, and they're they're they're not getting to
live forever. My my fiance just lost her dad recently,
(31:54):
about a year or two ago, so it's still fresh
on her brain. And I mean, it's coming to the
back of my mind that what happens when they when
my parents are gone?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
And I mean, I want my children to be raised,
not necessarily the way I think, but I want them
to be able to ask those questions. I want them
to be able to be open minded. I don't want
them to be the conservative root. I'll openly admit. I
don't want them to be conservative conservatively rooted. I want
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them to be come one, open minded. And my fiance
has even told me, she's like, you do realize your
daughters probably can't be a liberal And I told her.
I was like, took a big, deep breath, and I
was like, as much as I do not like that,
I'm still gonna love her because it's not because she's
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my child, but it's because she has that mind to
rebel and to ask questions. That is my biggest thing.
I want my kids to ask questions. I want like
in grade school, when they're in school and they ask
the teacher why, and they get in trouble for it.
I'm gonna go up to school and be like why
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that's I'm getting back them. That's just how I am,
because they want to learn why that's that's not a
horrible question. Like if the teacher is like, you know,
World War two was so horrible and then moves on
why why was it so horrible? I mean, that's just
an example. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, I know. I mean teaching teaching children how teaching
children the joy of learning is a gift that will
will manifest and and and and double and triple. What
I'm saying is that right now, I my concern would.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Be this the relationship with my fiance.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Right. No, But then also to this this you're talking
about a baby being a liberal, Like how.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You know, I get it, I get I get No, No, no,
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
This was like what about the so what do we?
Why are we? Why are we? This goes back to
those tribal politics, right, instead of thinking my daughter is
going to grow up to be a confident, strong, intellectual version.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Shouldn't she be a confident verbal woman?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Right? But you didn't use any of those, You didn't
get any of those you so you immediately went to
she's probably gonna be a liberal. I'm not gonna like that,
but saying, but she might be a liberal, but as
long as she's a confident, well spoken, educated, articulate young woman.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But because educated nowadays, it's not college education in my opinion, Well,
and that's and and that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I mean, you're a I'm an academic, academic advisor. I
sit across from young people at people, I've from people.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Like you myself, and I've I've not to be offensive.
The last time I sat across a person like you,
an advisor like you, I told them college is a joke,
and they laughed in my face and said college is
the most important thing. And here I am today making
the living. I'm not happy with it, but it is
(35:08):
what it is. And I'm trying to make a thing
out of this comedy ow this podcast itself. And I
don't think I would learn this in college. In my opinion,
the only regret I have about college is there is
the broadcasting for me in journalism part of things which
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I would love to learn, don't get me wrong, But
the part I don't like is the bullshit part where
you go through high school again. The first two years
of college, you're fucking getting repetitive high school learning, like catching,
like just to refresh your brain and everything. And then
your last two years are basically your major or your
(35:52):
last seven years, which whatever your major is, right, I
just like That's why I kind of like tech schools
better because tech schools directly go into that line of work.
I'm not shaming your work or shame in the any
university or anything. It's just as a as an advisor yourself.
(36:14):
I'm curious as a person like me that wants to
go back to college but doesn't want to go through
the bullshit of the high school academics to get to
that third year where you get to actually major. Well,
second to third year, I guess your sophomore year you're
supposed to commit to a major, give or take depends. Yeah,
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that's what I've always grown up with. Like, by your
sophomore year, you're supposed to have your major. Maybe it's
aged out. I don't I don't know how it.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Depends on it's really it really does depend on the major.
It's going to depend on.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
On what you're You're still in the profession. I'm not.
I'm not in college. And that's that's why.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I'm telling you that. I'm my professional experience is saying
that it depends on the major. So if you're gonna
be an engineering major, you're probably gonna start that you're
starting that core course work at that freshman level. But
if you're gonna do something that's much more broad, let's say,
then you probably will be stacking your general education and
(37:16):
those preliminary courses in your first two years and then
focusing on something else right in your major specific classes.
Let me tell you right now, Yeah, you know this college.
I work at an institution.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like, I'm not trying to shame institution, don't. I don't
just as an advisor. Like, what's the I'm sorry for
cutting you off. I apologize. What's the purpose of general
education when we already went through general education first through twelve? Like?
What was that purpose?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Okay? The reason I'm laughing is I'm I'm actually a
trainer on the campus, and I train academic advisors. I
don't think you're.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Laughing at me. Oh no, I'm not I've.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Literally had this this same and general education conversation. This
is gonna be my fourth time today talking about it.
It's so funny that because this just happened to be
the topic that I was teaching, I'm really curious everything.
So okay, so here's the catch. Post secondary education as
we know it, So academia you may know at that
(38:16):
college universities, that was created by a social ele social
elite class. Okay, so it was created to produce higher thinkers.
They studied the philosophers, Socrates, Plato, right, and this would
have been all of the social elites. So we're talking
like your Harvard Well, well you're Doamas Jefferson's, you're Alexander
(38:40):
Hamilton's rich white elite men. That is what academia was
for for its first you know, one hundred two hundred
years of existence, right, Well in Columbia.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Last we're only two hundred and forty nine years.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, yeah, but it started even before we were in
actual like country. We had we had, we had.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Institution, relish rule.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, before the Revolutionary War, we were already you know
Colombia and things like that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Those places existed, right, Columbia is the oldest universe.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't know necessarily the history of that, right, So,
but those northern.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Continue.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
So so our general education foundational classes. Right, they change
from state to state to state. So the oh you board,
and excuse me, the state Board of Regents sets forth
like all of these rules, and they say anybody, well,
no or But there's different regions. So the state Board
of Regents will say, okay, every person who has an
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associate's degree in anything or bachelor's degree will have completed
at least this litany of classes, of which six hours
of English, three hours of history, three hours of American
federal government, social sciences, humanities course works, math, those kinds
of things. And that is because the goal of academia
(39:58):
back in the day was to make you a well
rounded person so that you could sit in polite company
and talk about multiple different kinds of conversation. Right, So
that's how it started. It has become through the years,
a more transactional commodity. Right, So we've gone from this
(40:21):
from this piece of paper, this diploma being a greater good,
to it being transactional. I am paying you x amount.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Of doll or extra money to repeat.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
But but it's not. It shows a lot more things
than what you're seeing. You are seeing I'm paying this
and I'm taking this class, and I've done this right
a degree.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
This is my experience as I get college students.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's not for everyone. It's absolutely not. And I've sat
across from students and said, maybe this isn't for you
right now. I'm a believer that everybody should have access
and the ability to go, but it does mean it's
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
I love how you said it's not for everybody now,
or it's not for you right now. I my advisor
said this is one not for you. You should just
drop the fuck out. Those were their exact words. They
were like, and I was making b's and c's, okay.
The only course I was making a C in was
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my history or a political course. And I hate to
say it, the t professor that was teaching the course
was far far even more far than you, in my opinion,
In my opinion, okay, far very far left, because even
if I spoke about the Founding Father, she graded it
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as a D or F. I'm like, this is history
that I learned in school, and you're telling me I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I don't know your class situations.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
This was Northern Oklahoma College OC. This was ten years ago, right,
so I'm not but it's just like that that amazed me.
And I don't think she's teaching it moore, to be honest,
but it just amazed me that I even asked. It
was a class of about twenty two students and we
all grew, we all had studies together, and I asked
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all the students like, hey, where are you guys? Where
are your guys' grades? Because I was averaging A FTD
back and forth to F and D because of my
papers and everything I was fucking bringing back in And
they're like, we're averaging a's and b's. It's like, what
are your papers looking like? And they're like, well, we
(42:37):
just listened to the professor and we just follow her instructions.
It's like, but it's not right, Like she's not teaching
it correctly like this, and this is just from my
high school knowledge, you know, Like I was a freshman.
It was just new to me, and I was just like,
this isn't what I learned, and she she wasn't teaching
it correctly at all in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Well, but that doesn't mean that she was teaching you
the truth.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I don't. You don't like was eventually fired.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Do you know that you absolutely know that in a
situation where she was let go for teaching falsehoods? Or
was she?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't know if you're correct, right.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
See that's the thing. It's like this, this whole like
oh the elite. She was right. That's the thing that
See what that's an opinion. That's your opinion that you're
stating is fact, and that is the issue.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't think it was an opinion. It isn't.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
It is absolutely opinion. She wasn't teaching it right? What
is right? Whose definition? Who is the one who.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Holds what was right? Oklahoma academics was still under which
is far left, well well not far left, but still
leaning leftwards in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
A slant can be have you ever heard of something.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Called love this? I love it, I love it. Let's
get into it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Cognitive bias. I love you, cognitive because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm just I don't so say that again.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Cognitive bias. So, if you are looking, if you were
looking to be wronged in a situation.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I was actually open to it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Well that's the thing is. But if you're looking for
something to be wrong in a situation, you will absolutely
one hundred and ten percent find it. So if you're
if you are looking at something being wrong, something not
being taught correctly or not you have an opinion about it,
then absolutely that is what you're going to see. The
other day, I was I was eating lunch at the
cafeteria on campus and I overheard too freshmen talking and
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one was in a polypsyd class. And that generally means
American federal government. So that's everybody has to take it
across the board because you should know about how the
American government works, whether or not you like the people
in power. You need to understand civics.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
It's it's three different branches that.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Exactly you should understand how it functions.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Absolutely, and so there's that's what our country was built on, right,
but liberal or Republican, that's just what our country was
built on. With three.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
No, no, no, no, no, you sound annoyed. It's just I
can't never like get like a full sentence out.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I know that I'm trying to. I'm trying to learn.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
No, it's okay, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
You're the first person that's actually mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, okay, So the the and now I've lost my
train of thought. And also too but chet that is
playing in the background, so it's all like whoo, but.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
We're talking about No, you were talking about how that
the university.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, oh the opinion, and like right right, So I
have students who sit across all the time for me
and say things like, well, they shouldn't be allowed to
teach because they're not from this country. If we didn't
allow our instructors to come from all over the world,
the amount of information that we would be allowed to
(45:56):
have would be so siloed. And you can't grow in
a silo, you can't. Silos are built to contain things.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
They they're not. They are not. They are built to
contain things that help other things grow. But you do
not grow in a silo. You can only grow in
the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Now, can you agree that Nazis were professors in Alabama?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Though that Nazis were professors and al.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
There was a Nazi program at the University of Tuskegee
that was for NASA to build space rockets. Did you
not know that? No, Tuskegee, Alabama is the highest population
of German. German population in the United States because we
took during Operation paper Clip. I don't know if you're familiar.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I've heard of something like that. It's I just haven't
done a deep dive. Operation Killer subject.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I apologize. Operation paper Clip was the mission to collect
every German scientist that we could get before the Soviets
could get them. It's a race between the Soviets and that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
We understood our you know, our frenemies.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Exactly, so we collected every German we could, transplanting them
into Tuskegee, Alabama, where they did scientific continued with their
German experiments basically Tuskegeearman. That and also they discovered NASA.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
That was the wrong No, no, no, but but I
get what.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I get what you were saying, not to Skegemen, but
experiment all that spraying chemicals across, yes, or even injecting,
not necessarily spraying, but injecting really yes, exactly, but uh.
They they also invented the space rocket as well. We
beat supposedly we beat Russia to the moon. I'm still optimistic.
(47:49):
I would like to see a redone. I I as
much as we disagree, I think we agree a lot too.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I'm sure there are things like a moral code.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Like I mentioned in the beginning, I'm a constitutionalist more
than a conservative. The reason I became a constitutionist, as
silly as it sounds, it's Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
And other allies.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
And it was in a comedy set of his. He
was talking about the Constitution and how the Founding Fathers
made the Constitution and everything, and like, if the Founding
Fathers were alive today, they'd be like, you didn't add
to anything, you didn't keep adding. And that's my thing.
That's why I'm a constitutionalist at heart. Is this may
(48:39):
be sensitive the Roe versus Wade m it's not constitutional,
and I agree with it's not constitutional, but hear me
out before, if you want it to be constitutional and
amend it to be constitutional, then I agree. I have
no issues with it, you know what I mean, Like,
as long as in the Constitution, that's just how I
(49:04):
Maybe it sounds silly, but it's something we should live
by in my opinion. I mean, that's why our Founding fathers.
Really the last time we or ratified the amendments was
in ninety two, nineteen ninety two, and that was for
a pay race for Congress.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Well, they'll take care of themselves first, and foremost. So yeah,
I guess this is about to be set ablaze. I
am not a constitutionalist. And the reason I am not
a constitutionalist is there was nothing about me in the
writing of the Constitution. I wasn't even considered a human.
The writing of the Constitution me as I am. I
(49:44):
am a woman of I'm an American woman of Mexican descent,
so I'm a woman of color. I would not I mean,
you know, if black men were only a percentage, women
were nothing at all, right, and a woman of color
menus less. Right. So yes, I mean there's true acts
(50:05):
of true brilliance. And yes it was designed to be
built upon but it hadn't the founding fathers. Hell Jefferson
owned slaves. Washington owned slaves. Right, So when I think
of this holy holly, holy Constitution, that constitution is written
(50:26):
in the dipped in the ink of that is blood
saturated with indigenous people who were on the land first.
It is it is dipped on the back of backs
of slavery that built the South. Right, we were not
part of the conversation when the Constitutional Constitution was written,
and so it's needed a lot of fixing to include
(50:47):
a lot of people and it still needs fixing. It
is a work in progress, and that is how we
should see it, not as some archaic, biblical thing that
we need to coast our future into. If we were
building our future based on technology of the past, we'd
still be standing next to a wall talking and using
a finger to do a dial. Instead, we're walking around
(51:09):
with high powered computers in our pocket because we move
forward and people in the Constitution they want to hold
it so tight, hold it open, hold it open, and
allow it to grow and breathe and include more people,
because that is how growth happens.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
You sound like a constitutionalist. I'm not trying to offend you,
but what you just said is exactly what I stand for.
I want the Constitution to grow, I want amendments, I
want more to it. It shouldn't be at.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Twenty so most constitutions just don't. They want it black
and white.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
You're correct, You're correct, But I'm not the same. And
I think that's what sitting down with you and you
you seeing me for who instead of seeing DMS and
everything I can do AI Trump, Chris Data, hell, would
you love to this?
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Don't make me vomit in my mouth. Please, don't make
me vomit in my mouth. That's gonna be real ugly.
I could handle those, but like just doing it in
front of me, it's like it's too ick.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
But it's too Hey, you do improv right.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I do improm.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Is. She's a great woman, fantastic woman. She's one of
the ones we'll keep around. No, no, you like that one?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
No? Actually yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
See.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Here's the thing about racist humor is that if you're
gonna do racist humor, it's gotta be isn'tna be fake?
Speaker 1 (52:27):
You have to admit my racist humor. And that message
kind of hit though it was pretty funny. You Hey,
you're here.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I am here. I am here.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I mean offended by that.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
I was offended. I'm a recovering alcoholic. That's what I said.
I'm a recovering alcohol It's gonna take a lot more
to offend me. But on the flip side, when you asked,
I was like, I don't really know. He knows what
he's asking for, you know, And so I was like, sure,
I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I love's a challenge. I love, but a lot to
rope in.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
The big thing is I love the open conversation regardless.
That's the thing good, and I mean being at nine
eleven the day after someone had the open conversation that
was assassinated. I think we should keep that open conversation.
I told my fiance because she messaged me. She's like,
you can pick do whatever you want to do, like
be be that political voice if you want to be,
(53:16):
but like, just no, I don't want to be part
of it. And I'm like, if I chose that political
voice to be to pick up the torch after him,
it would be an arenas. I'm not getting do open
air first off, but also I'm not interested and necessarily
diving that deep into that field. I want to keep
it in the comedy realm. I want to be open
(53:41):
to the mind. That's why I've had you on. I've
had Democrat candidates on politicians like I'm open to the
idea of hearing you guys out and everything. And I
think we've had a great communication, Like we've obviously disagreed
he was there, But at the same time, I'm not
gonna sound a roof and wait for you you know, well, no,
(54:03):
I think that's disgusting in it.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
So there's a great Netflix show. Shout out to John,
Like Guizamo who's not going to be listening to this,
but if he was, I love you.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
John Legizamo is SID. He's what sid from? Isn't he
sid from ice Age?
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yes? He is SID for myce age, and so I
know him from his one man shows and in actuality.
His work has actually inspired my one woman show just
in the writing of it, right, because I look, I
started off in in acting. That's I'm an actress and
a singer and an improviser, comedian kind of person. But
those things came later to my acting and singing and
(54:43):
so but I had a certain look because I was
from five to one. I was way heavier back in
the day. So I've lost in my life in my transformation.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yes, And I was going to make a funny comment.
I was like, uh, is it are you? Did you
lose weight now?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
But and I was like, I'm about to have her
on the podcast. I don't want to piss her off.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
And yeah, yeah, I know. The weight loss has been tremendous.
I mean since my top weight one sixty in the
last year almost one hundred, so that's a lot of weight.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Can we take a break so I can go pee?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I have to be I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Hello, Mark Trotter, how are you?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I'm good? How are you good? Welcome to the Heally Cast,
the Hey Freeman, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
How do you do it good?
Speaker 1 (55:34):
How are you good? Hello? Marty? Oh hey buddy? What's
up man? How are you doing next? How are you doing?
What's your real name?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
What's your government name?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
That is my first question. I'm just gonna go right
off the bat and just JJ wood.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (55:51):
A long time listener, first time guest.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
All have headphones now? Hy hee? Whar were you born?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Ninety seven? Ninety six? Crights?
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Technically you're a nineties baby, but you missed half of it.
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