October 16, 2024 • 55 mins
In this episode of TheHeleyCast, I sit down with House Representative Trish Ranson from District 34. We dive into her journey in politics, her motivations for representing her district, and the challenges she faces in today’s political climate. We also discuss key issues impacting our community, such as education, healthcare, and local legislation. In addition, we talk about the role of AI in our society and its potential impact, as well as her upcoming re-election on November 5th. Trish shares personal insights on what it’s like to balance her role as a public servant while staying connected to the people she represents. It’s an engaging and insightful conversation, perfect for anyone interested in politics or community leadership.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
And then headphones are optional, but I always.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wear them just so we can hear each other.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And also if I play any audio, okay, or anything
on the computer, we would be great.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Am I close enough? Yeah? You should be great?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, all right, welcome, Well, thank you, Chris. We're just
gonna dive right in. I'm not even going to introduce you.
You've been on the part, are no, I'm just kidding. Guys,
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the podcast. It's been
a while. My last uh my last person that was
on the podcast was a representative representative District thirty three, right,
(00:45):
John Tally. This is his counterpart. She is of the
still Water Prior Proper Proper Proper Area District thirty four.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Trish Ranson, and she's running for re election. So that's
always running for reelection.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's every two years, right, yeah, so you're always running
for the election. Definitely. I actually looked and tried to
look up videos of you on face or not Facebook,
but on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, and what did you find? Did you find some?
I found children's songs now in John, Okay, well this
is good. I found you and John.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know if YouTube will dock me for playing it,
so I won't play it, but you and John we're.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Doing that back three years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, okay, got seventeen views more than what my podcast gets.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, that was rotary, so that was probably rotary members
that were not able to be there. That rotary is
the it's the club. It's a lunch club kind of
like an Elks club kind of thing. Okay, yeah, but
like kawanas and that kind of thing. And they do
civic things like they volunteer in the community and so forth.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So okay, yeah, I see you've done other podcast and interviews.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, look at that Green Greencorn or Greencorn Rebellion show. Yes, yeah,
he ran for office in Shawnee a couple of times,
and so as a Democrat. Yes, right, yes, and so
it was it was wild because our conversations were about
politics and heavy metal. Really, are you a heavy metal fan? Nope,
(02:25):
I have no idea anything about heavy metal, but hey,
we can talk about whatever you want to.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What kind of music are you into? Let's just get
into that real quick.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh let's see if I had to, I like all
kinds honestly, but bluegrass blue is pretty much top because
I go to the bluegrass festival in Windfielder every year.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I would say my genre would be probably red dirt.
Oh yeah, and here in April, if you live in
the Stillwater area or this surrounding area, you can't get room.
So I'm selling spots in my backyard for two hundred
and fifty dollars per tent spot. Bring your own tents
set up in my backyard two fifty per spot. We
can fit about ten people, maybe twenty. There'll be a
(03:05):
fire pit in the middle. It'll be great. Contact me,
she waited. It's way big fast. People are already talking
about Like I have a friend that used to live
here and he sold his house and he's like, I'm
getting tickets and I'm gonna kick the people that bought
my house.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Out, and that should be interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's like, listen, you live in Wisconsin, now, man, I
get that. I know squatter rights are a little different
up there. But here in Oklahoma, right, it's like seven
to ten years before you can even rec like do
squatter right. We made it like basically impossible here in
the state of Oklahoma, which I love, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Interesting because that's how our country or how our state
got formed, was squatter rights.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The sooner state. Yeah, definitely, I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But you know, if he does that, I mean he
does have a place to stay, it'll just be you know,
Payne County jail exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, your choice.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Man, if you watch.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
This, yeah, really.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Not fun. Okay, well there you go. I did that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Let me pull out my phone because I told you,
before we even started, I had chat GPT do some
questions and just because we're in the generation of AI. Yes,
before I even start asking you questions from the AI,
where are your opinions on AI? Where do you think
it will go? Are you for it? Are you against it?
(04:30):
Where are your opinions?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, I think like chat GPT, that type of AI.
I think it's a really great tool, but it needs
to be utilized as a tool rather than a be all,
end all. So I think we've got to use it
in a way that we're still using our critical thinking skills.
I've used chat GPT as well as far as you know.
(04:52):
I had to teach a lesson at Sanger Ridge to
second graders about voting, and I just put in the
parameters and like what would be a second grade as
appropriate lesson? And it came back with a really good
structure of the lesson, But then it was like, okay,
I'm trained to be a teacher. So then it was like, okay, well, no,
(05:12):
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna swap this out. I'm
going to change it this way and made it my own.
But it did create that construct that I could actually
work from. You know, I think you know, being a
gen X person and the terminator that always makes me
a little nervous. You know, are we going that way?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Release and everything? Okay, real quick? Also, could you do
you want drink of water? No? I'm good? Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I was gonna say there's water in that mini fridge
if you want drink, or if you also want drink,
that's good. You haven't seen this. Okay, we'll go down
here and go back.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So is he creating something that's I should just let
you look at it rather than ask you questions while
you're doing it. So this is oh wow, look at
(06:12):
that full these robots.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yep, it's a little scary because it reminds me. Have
you ever seen the movie Eye Robot?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh my gosh, yes, huh, this is where it's kind
of going more or less. Yeah, and uh, he did
say it's gonna beat once they're in mass production. It's
gonna be robots will walk among you. Interesting. Please please
be nice to the Optimus robots they're supposed to. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Twenty to thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Goodness, gracious, that's a car.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yes, yes it is. Wow, but that's still like and
then uh he released the taxi.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh yeah, I did see that self. Right, there's no.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Steering wheel, you have no uh breaks.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I've seen these, I mean not this type, but like
there is, like the autonomous taxis in other cities.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We have canoe right here in Oklahoma, we.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Do, but they're not they up and running. Really yeah,
they're still they're still struggling.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What's what's making them struggle?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you know? They're commercial vehicles. They're not necessarily like
you and I would purchase them. So I believe the
uh postal service and Walmart delivery and so forth, and
so they're they're being used for that. But I had
a friend who traveled to Arizona I think it was,
and they got a cab and it was an autonomous
(07:47):
cab and they basically got in there was no driver
put in the date where they wanted to go the
address and took them away. I was like, man, that
would make me a little nervous. It makes me there
is just period, right. But then I mean afterwards they
said it was a really good experience. I mean, it
just it was safe. And I mean there's so many
sensors on the autonomous vehicles true that they're actually I mean,
(08:08):
they're actually purported to be safer than human drivers, just
in the sense that they've.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Got except for the issues with San Francisco, like one
of that I guess I can't remember what company it was,
but they had giant issues in San Francisco that cards
would just stop in the intersections or if you like,
get into a crowded parking lot, it can't register anything right,
and it just freezes up and stays put. So like
(08:33):
it had weird issues. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
I'd have to look it up myself, but this was
a while back. And also I listened to it on
Joe Rogan, So okay, so you know, obviously.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Take it all with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Right with that, let's do campaign re elections. Yes, as
you run for a reelection, what motivates you to continue
serving District thirty four, and what do you hope to
accomplish in your next term?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, so you know, I believe we are an education
community first and foremost with OSU Career Tech, still Water
High School or public school, excuse me. And we have
an educated constituency. So I believe that still Water needs
an educated representation at the capitol. So that is my
(09:23):
place that I that I feel and I've been the
representative for six years. I've done a great job. I've
made friends across the aisle. I've been able to influence
things as well as push back against other things. And
I think that that is important for still Water to
have that type of representation and that type of poul
(09:44):
if you will, with the state legislature. And so I'm
continuing to wanna to continue doing what I've I've done
in the last six years. Also pushing forward, we definitely
need to push in the arena of public education. We've
done bits and berts of a funding for public ED
and in the last couple of years we've diverted funds
(10:05):
to private ed through the voucher system, which I think
is only going to cause us to be two different classes.
Those who can afford to educate their children and those
who can't. And so we need to make sure that
we are really looking at the whole child and not
deciding whether or not they can afford to be educated,
because our future workforce doesn't care. Right, we need a
(10:29):
workforce that can be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Did just see was it still public schools or was
it just the state of Oklahoma is now pushing for
a project where kids are going to learn or focus
more on like more blue collar or more work related.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, that has the push lately just overall from the.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Shininess state chamber. We shouldn't we learn how to do
taxes in school? Like and I didn't really learn about
in school, you know what I mean? So like when
I heard about taxes, I didn't. My mom does my
taxes right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, And it's an applicle, it's an applical bull skill,
that's the word. If you don't know how any way
of how to approach it, you don't have any experience
in it, you're not going to learn it because it
doesn't make any sense to you. And so I would
agree we need to as well. We need education be
should be educating our future citizens. It should be focused
(11:30):
on not only just workforce, but quality of life, and
how do we make so that Oklahoma's can advance, How
do we make it to wear Oklahoma advances. We're at
the bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Of the list, right, but I also don't want most
like because we're at the bottom, this sounds interesting, this
is going to be interesting, how I wore it. Because
we're at the bottom. I feel like more students would
be more willing to go into the workforce than trying
to go into college. I think college, in my opinion,
(12:03):
doesn't necessarily work for everybody. And just who I've seen
who I associate myself with, a lot of them haven't
gotten to college, and their comedians, podcasters or you know, radio,
all that kind of stuff. They're successful people still, So
like I figure like we should be at the point
(12:25):
where public schools should also be educating students on the
fact that you can also just from a high school diploma,
you can get a good working job as well instead
of having to you know, have the pressure of going
to college as well. Right, because my parents pressured me
to go well not my mom, but my dad definitely
(12:46):
pressured me to go to college and I flunked out,
so you know, and adn't work.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And here I am in my garage interviewing, well, and
you make it work because you have to make it work. Yes,
And I think that you're right. I mean, we should
be able to allow students to go forward to where
their interests are and where they want to be. College
in my generation was it was a way of making
(13:11):
sure that I could earn a living wage. And and we.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Come from two different generations, we don't. I don't think
college is the same as it was when you were
in school. Well, when you were.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Going absolutely not, because just the way we fund it.
I mean when I went to college, it was eighty
percent subsidized by the government and right now, my son
graduated two years ago it was subsidized twenty percent. So
it's even less now. And so that's why we're seeing
so many loans.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That the students payments have gone up. Oh absolutely, So
then why has the why is the government not paying as.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Much towards the car lot of money, but.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Why has it so hand on hand on? So let's
go back and talk about this. Maybe even for your generation,
probably baby boomers, they were able to afford a house
a one income salary for household you know, daughter, son, mother, father,
(14:11):
and the father only had to work. And I've looked
at kind of like the interest rate on everything like
housing and market, job market, everything has gone up correct,
but payment or income hasn't moved whatsoever. And I'm not
(14:32):
talking about memum wage either. I get well mimum wage. Honestly,
I'd be okay with memum wage going up a little bit,
but it can't be too much like California where they're
going to push it to like is it twenty seven?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, and it reasans to be at that point incremental.
It can't just be all at once, otherwise the whole
system will crash down.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I think Florida is pushing like fifteen dollars for
minium wage, but it's over a three to four year,
right kind of deal Florida or California, I think is
the next year or so plans on just going twenty
seven ninety nine?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah per hour for Memori No, and that means a.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Big They're like another country quite honestly, the same with Texas.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, But the problem with California is a lot of
companies are going to move out because they're not gonna
want to pay the minimum wage of twenty seven ninety nine,
Like I know, the in and out owners, she's talked
about leaving California altogether where in and Out started, which
is crazy to think that there wouldn't be an in
and out in California. But she's talked about she can't afford,
(15:32):
you know, sixteen seventeen year olds and paying them twenty
seven ninety nine for and she said, then their hours
are gonna be cut, right, I mean, it's just an
economical thing. And don't get me wrong, I get people
are hurting as well. I just like the idea of
moving it slower into a process. And I only know
if twenty seven ninety nine is necessarily a good idea,
(15:54):
I would cut it at probably fifteen, like Florida is
doing as a minimum wage, because you then anything else
is you can just go up from there, you know
what I mean, there's no going down. I mean, it's
a legal to go down from there, you know, you know,
if you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Think about it, like you said about the boomer generation,
you know my parents, I mean, I grew up in
a household for kids. I was the youngest. My dad
was a machinist, he worked, my mother didn't, and we
had one car and we it. We somehow were able
to take vacation as well. I mean, but at that time,
(16:28):
I mean you also had union. You also had taxes
that we pay that paid for a lot of things
that helped subsidize You also.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Have war as well of funding everything as well too.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, and so now you we don't have those things,
and that was another part of the whole higher ed funding.
We don't have the taxes that are going to that.
We are not supporting the university institutions. And into the
point now we're changing them into workforce development sites, which
that is not necessarily what universities need to be. Universities
need to be places of thought where we actually work.
(17:01):
It's like how do we work within the larger global economy?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I agree with that, but also I do think
we should do more of a workforce as well. I
don't think I don't think there's enough workforce kind of
schools out there. I mean, we have Meridian Tech here,
we also is it Oylton that has one.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, there's a Career Tex all the.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Way society, we have multiple career tech schools. But I
just feel like it's not like enough, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
If you're not going to go. I mean, the great
thing about career tech is that they they have like, Okay,
we're going to give these type of job experiences for
you because they make a living wage. And if they
don't make a living wages, they don't offer them, right.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I get that. I get that, But like I guess,
everything is on a small scale, if that makes any sense,
Like Meridians not a huge campus. It's a it's a
good sized campus, but it's not a huge campus. So
I just I don't know, is there a is there
a tech school that is the size of the actual universe?
(18:02):
I mean oak Moogi, okayom State into you know, I
guess I just answered my own question.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I don't know. But they're you're talking.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They're part of okhom State University.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
They're part of the they're.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Part of the system. I was trying to just completely
take it out of the system.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The career techs are built to where they are part
of the system technically, aren't they They're they're their own system, really, yes, Okay.
And they are in communities where it is easy for
access in it and so forth. So they're peppered all
the way through Oklahoma because of that, and they're government
funding as well though. Yeah, they get federal government funding,
(18:37):
they get state funding, and they also get property tax
part of the for their funding. And it's it's built
on the fact that Okay, well, if you need a
skill or you need to upskill that you can travel there,
you can be there. If you work during the day,
you can work at not you can do school at night.
And they're very flexible and that's I think one of
(19:00):
their greatest strengths is that they can meet people where
they need to be. Universities, you know, because we have
the funding has been dwindling over the years. Universities like
OSU they focus on the eighteen or twenty two year old,
so our non traditional students aren't necessarily a high focus
because they it's just it doesn't work that way. And
(19:23):
you have to have night classes, well then that means
you have to pay more for your faculty to be
at night and so forth. Yeah, it's so it's it's
been I mean, it was a business decision many years ago,
and I understand it, but at the same time, I
think we're missing the mark on a lot of people
who need that next certificate.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
The next step. Yeah, absolutely, I get what you mean,
going back to the AI questions, what has your platform,
how has your platform evolved since your last election, and
what new issues or challenges are you focused on this
time around.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So my three issues have been I mean, in twenty eighteen,
my three issues were public education funding, access to healthcare
and that's affordable, and then food insecurity because food insecurity
was a big issue that I saw. I'm just going
in grocery tax cut, right, that is correct. And what
(20:18):
I realized after that is that food insecurity is a symptom,
symptom of something else greater, and that is economic as
well and so forth. So it is still a big
huge focus of mine. I mean, I volunteer. I try
to volunteer weekly for Mobile Meals, which is delivering of
meals on and Fridays my day. And I absolutely love
(20:40):
that because it's it's something that I can actually do
with my time to help someone like It's very tangible.
But I've changed my third one from last election in
this election to equal opportunity because what I'm seeing is
is that our Republican superman majority legislature is pushing more
(21:02):
and more this myth that Oklahomas look and worship the
same and we have four million Oklahomas from very diverse populations, backgrounds,
religions and so forth. And I think what we end
up doing in that regard is that we start to
eliminate or we start to exclude people. And people are here.
(21:25):
We need to represent them, no matter who they are
and how they live, how they worship. Last time I
talked to you, we had four Democrats in the House.
I believe we have twenty. Last time I talked to you, though,
we had eighteen. I think, yes, so we've got twenty
now we're hoping for that number of Democrats. Well, at
(21:45):
one point it is a very low number. Still, we
have one hundred and one representatives in the House. I
got you, so, yeah. But it's one of those things
where I mean, that's that is an issue for me
because if we're not at ten to the issues for
the folks who were in the margins, were really not
moving the needle for anyone going forward, because then we're
(22:08):
just basically like, Okay, well you have so we're going
to help you. You have not We're not going to
help you. And I don't believe that that is what
we should be doing going forward. Excuse me. The issue
of childcare and accessibility and affordability of childcare is something
that has been this last couple of years, have been
on my radar and will continue to be that we
(22:31):
had a lot of federal funds come down during the
pandemic to help subsidize our childcare. We have a business
model that doesn't work because we went to universal pre
K several years ago and that takes all the four
year olds out of childcare and into the public school system.
It's great for kids, however, it's not great for the
(22:52):
child care facilities. It's more in labor costs and the
wage for the workforce and childcares is not a living wage,
and so we've got an issue there. So workforce is
a problem. But also how we can make payroll for
our child cares because of our subsidy reimbursement that they
(23:13):
get for our low income families.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Would Oklahoma consider optimists and such.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Childcare is one of those things. It needs a human touch,
it really does.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But also I think children would just destroy them. Yeah,
probably just toys, bang on them all that, And I
don't think they're supposed to be banged.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
No, But you know, the subsidy, the federal dollars ended
last month, and we have to decide as a state,
do we value childcare? Do we value the early childhood
ages to where we are going to step in and
help fill the gap. And that's the big question, and
so that's my big push as to how do we
(23:58):
fix the the business model for childcare is how do
we make sure that childcare is affordable and accessible? How
do we address the low pay of our workforce in
the childcare realm? And how do we go forward to
where they are now ready? Those students are going to
be ready for school when it comes time.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, here's a side question because I was waiting on
this question and you're still residum still Water. Obviously you
have to get a residum still wort to run to
for your office. But have you heard about this data
center that you're supposed to go in? We're your opinions
on this data center? Good bad? Where the pros cons
(24:44):
to it? I guess because everything I've read on it,
no one really knew anything about it, and the city
just kind of forced it. And now they're having a
vote on whether OG and E powers it or is it.
The City of still Water Electric is going to power.
It one of the too, I think, and the mayor
has said that either one has the infrastructure to you know,
(25:05):
supply the data center, but we the citizens didn't even
know about it in the first place. So I'm just
I'm just interested in your opinion as a system, maybe
not even as a representative, just as a citizen. Is
a data it's to my understanding, it's supposed to help
produce jobs obviously, but also it helps with education the infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That's all. I got those three things. Well you've got
a general view of it, so that's great. A data
center is something that basically it's a big, huge building
with a lot of computers and it just processes data
and that helps with the Internet and the Internet of
things and all of that kind of stuff. So it's
it is something that is needed as far as our
(25:55):
technology advances. There it is it has been a a
deal that has been in the works for at least
six years. It first started under when Mary Fallon was governor,
so probably maybe six seven years came in. It's it's
six years ago. Mayor Noble would that be Mayor Noble possibly,
(26:21):
I don't know who was mayor.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Does it matter who was mayor. No, okay, Okay, I
didn't know. It doesn't so the mayor didn't have anything
to do with it in the first place.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, And I think you know this far, how.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Is that possible? How I like it? It's going north
of in city limits. So doesn't the city have say
against the state?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The land was the trying to think of what the
what the term is. But it is land that's owned
by the state, okay, and so imminent domain. No, it's
not eminent domain. I mean we have land that is
owned by the state all around the state of a
manage and taxes and all of that is put on
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towards funding education. Okay. So there there's this land and
in north still still water that fits this bill, and
there was arms and all that right north of that,
and the company coming in and there has been I mean,
as is all deals, no non disclosure. So we it's
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rumored that it's Google, but it's never been reported that
it's Google, because the people that are in the room
can't can't say.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, i've heard bad reviews on Google, because so is it.
Piedmont or Prior had a data center put in and
they're suffering, is what I've heard. From other people that
have commented.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
On they suffering pollution.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's all I've read. I need to read. Okay, I
just started reading this this weekend, so I need.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
To dive definitely get into more information. Because there is.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Water pollution. That's because someone talked about white noise going
on with this center. But also if it's going out
by Armstrong and what's the copper building over there, I mean,
they're already making noise regardless. I mean, what's another. I
guess in my opinion, I guess what's another. But my
also other concern is rolling blackouts. Are we going to
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have issues about that?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
All right? So we're going to have noise pollution. So
because it has been in the works for six years,
they're already planning as to where they're going to put
the site so that it is insulated. It's going to
be built insulated. Then it's also going to be insulated
as the center part of the land, so that that
way it's the furthest away from it, we're not even
going to see it. It's also going to be surrounded
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by trees and the landscape, so all of that's still
going to be there. You're not even going to most
people are not even going to know where it is
because they're not going to be able to see it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We already have one here, if I'm correct, we don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We don't have.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Someone said we already have a data center and we
didn't even know about Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Now, and so let's talk about water. So water is
used for cooling, but water we have ample water source
for both fit actually for the first phase, and if
they were to expand to the second phase, we still
have ample water. Where's this water coming from? From our water?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Is it Boomer Callake?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We have a straw basically a pipeline that goes right
up to call Lake. If they should decide that they're
going to expand, then getting more water is on them
and they have to pay for it. This is hundreds
of millions of dollars to get a new pipeline. So
they have to pay for it. And that's a good
thing for still Water because then still Water doesn't have
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to pay for it. And that's one of the things
we try to get government funds during COVID to pay
for reinforcing it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And so if just you know, hypothetically, if they ever
left town, what would happen to that water line. Would
we be able to expand it into town and use
it ourselves?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
If this is a lot of ifs, yep, right right
right like that to pay for it, they paid for it,
it would still be ours really, and that's part of
the contract.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So they wouldn't have to dig it up. And I
mean they went dig it up. I just assume they
just close it or you know, pipe it off, and
we would at that point, I would assume the water
only runs to the center. Would the taxpayers at that
point have to pay for the extension into the city
or is it going to be connects?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
A lot of ifs, but I think it's going to be.
That's part of one of those scenarios that they've put
been putting in the contract. I got you, Okay, So
then let's talk about We talked about noise pollution, we
talked about potter, and then you had one more question
as far as blackouts. Blackouts. So here's the issue. What's
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on the ballot is the fact that in under the
state constitution, if we have power districts, and the power
districts have priority, and you can't have a power district
move into another power district and can peat it's like
it's set. So the reason why we're voting on the ballots,
so it's one data center per no, no, no, no,
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I'm talking power. So still Water still Water provides our power.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Still our electric center, over.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Water Electric provides our power. So no one else can
come in. So og and E can't come in and
into our area unless we vote for it. And so
it's not a vote of we do we want og
and E or do we want Stillwater Electric? It is
a it's this. We are allowing og and E to
come in and power the data center. That's all we're
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voting on.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
And to my understanding, og and E would eventually profit
for us, like the city would profit more off of
og and E than it would with still Water.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So I don't think we will have rolling brownouts or blackouts.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
But I trust og and E more with power than
I do with Stillwater. I've heard still Ware has issues
with their electric with their I've heard a few, like
just a few rumblings about still were Electric charging people
too much for their electricity or just like cutting power
off here and there around the city.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, I think all power entities have issues because og
I total their rates when they we had the I
just better storm.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
URI correct, But I do believe og and has probably
a better grid than what still Water Electric does.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, all I know is that og and E has
worked with other data centers and so they have a
they have under experience and an understanding with what is needed.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And so plus og and E isn't plugging into the city,
They're plugging into only the factor. I'm voting yes on
og and E to be honest, well, because it would
make millions for the city regardless. Plus we don't have
to worry about rowing blackouts, if that's my concern. If
Still were now the mayor says that still We're Electric
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does have the bandwidth or whether the amperage or wattage,
I don't believe that. I'm sorry, I just don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I Like you said, every electric company has their issues,
and I get og and E probably has their issues,
did have their issues during the freeze and storms and everything.
But also g and E is a bigger company. They're
going to be individual towards this factory or this area
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where still our Electric is now going to have to.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Funnel.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I think there'd be blackouts if still are Electric did
it in my opinion. I just that's that's just my opinion. Also,
I mean, I've.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Not ever had any problems with still Water Electric, and
I like the fact that it's still Water Electric. I'm downtown.
I'm to go down there if I have a problem.
I mean, I like that.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I'm not trying to talk smack on still Our Electric.
I just I've noticed issues on the community page. And
I mean even.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Huge don't read the community UNI pages wild.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's wild the old one, but the new one is better.
I like the new one that was started by.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh, what's his name? I'm getting messed up, Kyle.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, Kyle started a new one, Kyle Gooden. M I
shout out to you, Kyle.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
There you go. I'm not I'm not on it. I
just yeah, really you're not on any of them.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
No good for you. You shouldn't be on any of them.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I mean, I'm like, I would rather talk to people
face to face, not just hear all of the other things.
Do you hear that, Mollie Jenkins shout out to you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
It's amazing, Like I out of politicians, Democrats are more
willing to talk in Oklahoma wise than most Republicans. I've
invited quite a few Republicans onto my podcast.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Because they don't feel like they don't feel like they have.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
To your opponent. Yeah, what's his name? Ryan, Brian Andrew
much more. Yeah, I was way off and Ryan was
last time.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I think Ryan. Gosh, that was my last uponent.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He was a young j I think he was, Yes, yes, yeah,
I think is.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I've I've slept since then.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I envied him on the front porch I have, I
think a few weeks after I did yours. I want
to get both points of view, obviously, so he was
one of the Republicans that did. Obviously, John always was
willing to see it. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
But not Molly.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No. I want to hear from her, and it's kind
of interesting. She's like, you know, I want to hear
the voice of everyone in my I.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Mean she won in June. So now I mean she's
not sworn in, so she's not official.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I told you i'd even talk about this when you
come on the podcast because I was concerned about it.
So John's still there technically yea, he.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Is the representative until swearing in, which is November twentieth,
and so she's not sworn in, so she's not necessarily
the rep yet, but this is a great time to
start establishing relationships with the Burden and the Commission. And
I know, and it's just kind of it's really interesting
because I'm thinking, Wow, I would totally use that time
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if it were me. Right, she's not me, so that's okay.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean I've sent her multiple messages, I tried to
communicate nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well, I hope that changes after November twentieth, because I
think the people of how District thirty three require representation.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
John was very open. Absolutely, he kept his door literally open,
is what he told me. It was literally open to
anyone if they were down in Oakham City if you
had his phone number. Yeah, I can't even get like
I can't get Molly's phone number because generally, I, you know,
first I would hit you up on Facebook or whatever.
Then we'd be become you should be a friend.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Minded on the Ethics Commission website that too.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
But I guess I was looking for personal numbers with
John at least and with you as well. So but yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can find government numbers. Yeah, and John would always answer,
but like there's I don't know, I'm getting frustrated. With her,
and she's not even my representative. You're my representative. I
live in the city of still Wall, and I'm gonna
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come out greatest place and say it. I'm a Republican.
I'm a registered Republican, and I can still sit down
with a Democrats such as yourself to work with most
of the Okay, but I feel like it's very rare
in the time that we are living that Republicans and
Democrats can even sit down, Like I see a lot
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if we like you and I could probably disagree on
something and we're not gonna scream no, we're not getting yell,
you're not getting mess. You're not going to just charge out,
throw my camera on the ground. And you know, but
have you seen these tiktoks or at least videos of
Democrats Republicans all having their freak out moments, all just
being little pressy little bywards.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yes, it's it doesn't help, and you know what ends
up doing it only hurts because then if you try
to have a conversation later, you still remember that exactly
and you're like, Okay, I know who you really are,
and you're not You're not someone who's going to be
able to have a conversation with me, and and in
the job that I do, I absolutely have to have
conversations with people, and so it's not worth freaking out. Now,
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Can I disagree respectfully? Absolutely? If someone says something that
is not truthful, then I will say that's not truthful.
And it's more this. I mean, that's that's how we
do things right, And I mean having a one on
one conversation means that we come to a better understanding
of each other and what our shared values are. And
that's really really important.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Last time I talked to you, I believe oh you
and Texas had already announced they were leaving the Big twelve.
Oh man, Yeah, and I believe you were talking about
Republicans trying to block oh you from profit.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That was a flashback right there from trying to profit
with the SEC. Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
The Republican Party is more of a capitalist, I go
get your own money type of But you.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Know, I mean, looking back now, it's like they were
just they were hurt, they were heart broken. Where did that?
Where did that end up? Oh you set make their money, right,
They're going to make their money. It's so fine.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, there's no way they're not going to make their
money with the SEC. Do you think OSU will go
to the SEC eventually?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I have no idea. I am not I'm not a
sports person. It's a business decision, and I think we'll
see how it is with without OU and the conference
for a while and then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's against that's not my pay grade.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't know how much Congress has with athletics. Like obviously,
I guess they thought they could block O you from
getting SEC money.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
But here's a back to where we were talking before.
We don't subsidize higher ed like we used to, and
so therefore we really don't have much.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Say so, you only put in about twenty percent when
you what back, how how long ago did the state
put in eighty percent?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That was in the late eighties, early nineties. Wow. Yeah,
a lot has changed. And it's the whole privatization which
bothers me too, because you know, when we come to research,
we've got so much private entity dollars going into our research.
It's like, Okay, well is this really standalone education and
research or is this where research and development for the companies?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Where did the sixty percent go you're talking about it
went to companies instead of going to education.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
No, instead of going to cut I mean it was
cuts in taxes, so then we didn't put as much
money into it, so then they didn't have to pay
as much. And so then what ends up happening is
the people who do go to college have to fot
the bill where the state would have.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
It's like sixty eight hours and to go.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And so now you've got all of this high student
debt debt and there's no such thing. We created it.
Quite honestly, you.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Can't bankrupt or file for bankruptcy on that's the only thing.
You can't file for bankruptcy on. Right, that's wild. But
at the same time, isn't file for bankruptcy the federal
government's forgiven your debt basically, isn't that what that is?
And then you have seven years? No, they do.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's a very different system. And I mean because a
lot of the debt that has been forgiven, this is
what we need to learn in school. I didn't learn this.
The debt that's forgiven is not necessarily the debt like
what you had to pay for your college education. It's
the mountain of interest. Yeah. So I mean, just like
I had a conversation with a friend of mine, and
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she had her college debt forgiven. She has is fifteen
to twenty years out of college. She was still paying debt.
She got it forgiven. And because she had that debt forgiven,
she actually had money to actually open her own business.
So you know, when you talk about that, it's like, oh,
my gosh, what a great asset for her to be able.
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And it was a childcare and I'm like, yes, exactly,
you know, And so she's gone into childcare now and
she's having a really hard time making ends meet. Just now,
imagine if she had debt, there would be no way
that she would have opened that childcare.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You just mentioned your son graduated years ago. If you
don't mind me asking, how is he doing with this debt?
Does he have debt or was he on scholarship?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
He had a lot of scholarship. He was an engineering student.
So that's that's a long time. Yes, yes, well it
was four years. But he congratulations, thank you. He has
limited debt, which is good. And uh he now works
for pay coom and so oh he hits a good job.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Well, he's a smart engineer, but he's not like the smart, smart,
smart engineers that go to school for like ten plus.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, he did four years and then he was he
needed he needed a break, not not you know what I.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Mean, not downgra my bad. When you said engineer, I'm
thinking of the guys that make Toyota and then put
the oil filter behind the muffler to make it difficult
for every person to work on their car. Those kind
of people that think they're geniuses, but really they're not geniuses,
but they still get paid six figures a year just
to do just to screw with technicians that I thought
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that was.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Just know he's a good guy. He learned well, but
the he was electrical engineering and there's a lot of
mathematic technician with the Yeah, but he's doing tech support.
I mean it's like low stress and he is. Yeah,
it's a good job.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
So see, I was thinking about that to the production work,
like you see everything in here, I mean, yeah, yeah,
I think I'm halfway there already.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well you know, I mean yeah, because you have to.
I mean it's like, how do I make this work?
What do I I mean, like I said before, when
we came in here initially, I mean, you've you've advanced
greatly since the last time that we sat down and talk.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't have video last time. No, no, So yeah,
definitely good for you, Thank you, I appreciate it. Let's
do one more question before you got I got the
hard Yeah you have a heart out, all right, Let's
do voter issues. Voter issues, where's some key uh? Where
the some of the key issues or policies you think
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will define this election for voters in District thirty four.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Okay, say that again. What are the issues that are defining.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
The key issues or policies you think will define this
election for district?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well, number one the national election. Who is president and
vice president? I think that's the number one thing the
top of the ticket. The next thing is Ryan Walters.
Quite honestly, Ryan Walters is our state. He's not. He is.
It's a four year term, so he's two years in.
And what's frustrating is that he is. He is the
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number one topic on the doors. That's what I've been seen.
And so regardless of party, everyone that I talk to,
the number one issue that they have is Ryan Walters
and Bibles in the classroom, and so that is affecting
how they vote. And so they are looking at Okay,
who is going to be someone who pushes back against that,
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who's going to make sure that he is held accountable
for his actions and actions. I've been on the record
for multiple years now of you know, this is not
how you run the state Department of Ed. We are
vilifying our teachers. We are having poor results as far
as educational outcomes for our students. Our schools are not
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healthy learning environments under his leadership.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
So you would be against Molly Jenkins when she says that,
you know, like, sorry, uh where She's like, we should
abolish the teachers union and.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
We don't have a teacher's union number or not not teaching. No,
but that's what I'm sure she said it.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Board of She said we should abolish or not abolish,
but restart the Board of Education or the.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
The National Department of Ed.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Sure, yes, that's something education. We need to have a
teachers union.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Well, okay, there's that too, But we need to stand.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
A national teachers union, don't we.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
The NEA and it's a National Education Association. Weren't you
a member of that? I was a member of the OEA,
the Oklahoma Education Association.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yes, so is that union.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
We are a non union state, so it is an association.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, so we talked about this last time.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I'm sure, so they cannot force me to do anything.
I pay dues or I paid dues. Excuse me, because
I'm no longer a member of.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
A retired teacher school teacher. Aren't you a really spared No?
So how do you not pay any dues of your stuties?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I'm not in the classroom. You have to be an
active teacher to.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Be so it's kind of like a licensing Okay, I
got you.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, licensing is different, but you have to be in
the classroom in order to be a member. And so
I paid my dues and it was actually really great
support because it was other teachers. If I ever had
an issue with my principal, I knew that I had support.
If I ever had an issue with parents, I knew
I had support with my principal, with my association. And
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it's it's it's one of those things that you know
when you're a classroom teacher. You're basically an independent contractor,
but you work for a dish, but you are also
a state employee, but you don't get paid by the state.
You get paid by your district. It's really it's I
didn't know that it is. But to have that association
around you, with other teachers that walk the walk and
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talk the talk, oh my gosh, it is so vital.
And so the fact that you know there's this rhetoric
of let's let's abolish that, Well, what you really want
to do is you want to take power away from teachers. Well,
I would like you to pay them what you want
to pay them, which is not a living wage.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
What I would like to do is redo the system.
But for the better of the teachers and students. I
feel like both are not getting what they birth deserve.
And I feel like I'm all for reset with this
with the teacher union, not union association. Sorry my bad,
my bad, but the association, I am all for resetting.
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I'm not all for abolishing Mollie. I can be salty,
I'm sorry, And it's not me being a becoming a democrat. Yeah,
just a little bit with Mollie. But I don't like Mollie.
I'm gonna be honest. I was a Tally fan and
Tally came on my podcast explained everything that Mollie was
bleeding over and lying about.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And I mean, I mean it's hard because Tally is
an amazing human.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I've known him all my life, so it's kind I'm
kind of biased on it, and maybe that's why she
won't even communicate with me. But I want her to
have the chance. Like I've given your opponent for this
election to I've hit him up with the same messages
I hit everyone up, and he has not gotten back
to me. Like you said, Republicans always think, you know,
I tried to do our Mayor Will Joyce, but like
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he's I believe he's a Republican or.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
He's an independent. Is he really still doesn't want to
talk to me.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I feel like I mean, I mean, if anything I say,
I'm a Republican, but more than anything, I'm a constitutionalist.
What's in our constitution I wholeheartedly believe. But also I
do believe that our founding fathers, and I think I
even mentioned this last time made the constitution for us
to had.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
We only have twenty seven documents, so it must adapt.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
And I think I explained this last time, like if
you have, like if you want certain abortion laws or
certain things about which I'm getting touchy, I know, you know,
but we should amend a constitution, like make a constitution
what are they called amendments? We should, you know, and
I know you need two thirds of the House, two
thirds of the Senate to even have it pass. But
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let's get our shit together, guys, like seriously if you like.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
But we're too busy fighting one another rather than working
to fight out.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
My thing is I am for for women's health. I
do believe in like the women's health medical thing, but
also with the whole abortion thing, I think it should
come down to the health of a woman. Rape incest
is my opinion. That's my opinion because I think it
takes two people to make a baby. I don't think
you should just talk about that second person that takes
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to make a baby. H Are there any implications? Are
there any things that affect his life? Absolutely, he's going
to have to pay for that child. I have my
own child. Yeah, he's gonna have to have that. I'm
gonna have to pay for him all my life. I mean,
his mother and I are together, but not.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
In the law. In the law, it's all the limitations
for her rights. His rights are not affected.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Well, he's going to have to pay, regardless of you,
but not until he's eighteen.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Not in the law.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Law.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
But I mean, there's there's all that child support is
not law. Well, the child support is law, but as
far as I'm talking about what you can do with
your body, mm hm, there is nothing. So I would
have issue in the sense that, Okay, why are we
making it to where we are micromanaging half of the population.
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How about we focus on the education, focus on public health,
focus on trusting women to make decisions for themselves, and
then we most likely won't have the problems if we
educate on the front end and we talk about prevention
rather than oh well, sorry, it's too bad, so sad.
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I mean, it's yeah, well that's gonna be always a
tricky conversation.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
It is.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
It is a tricky conversation. But you know, as a woman,
to the sense that I have less rights in some
states than others, then that's a frustration. The fact that
my daughter will not return to the state of Oklahoma,
that is a problem, and I think that is a
Also it bleeds into the childcare issue where we have
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families who the mother is staying at home and not
in the workforce, which is going to hurt her later.
As far as social security and journey, you.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Do have to understand why the Supreme Court did overrule
Roe versus Way Now because it isn't It's not constitutional.
If you read the Constitution, there's nothing about abortion in
the Constitution before hold on, I know your your your
I see your your gears work, and I understand our
founding fathers didn't necessarily know about the process. I mean,
(52:08):
it did happen. Don't get me wrong, but everything I've
read is brutal. Back in the seventeen hundreds. The woman
probably didn't survive most of the time, you know, But I
get but they didn't put it in there. My point
of view is, if you want it, amend it put
in the Constitution, then you can do that. That's why
I agree with the Supreme Court's ruling of Roe versus Wid,
(52:30):
because it wasn't constitutional. If you want something to be
in writing like Row versus WAD, if you want to
try to bring back Row versus Wid, then may amend
it into the Constitution. That's I mean, that's the only way.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
You know, that's your opinion, that's valid, and then that's fine.
I mean, I think that's.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
The only way you're going to be able to do it,
because I mean, if I don't think Roe versus Waid
was No, I it's not. I don't think I know.
Versus Weid was not constitutional.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Well, they going forward. I think as far as a
Republican super majority of this state, yes, that's the only
way that I get either that or a Balid initiative
at the state level.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
That'd be interesting about it, Yeah, that would be interesting. See, guys,
we just had a very touchy subject, very touchy conversation.
She's not throwing my camera everywhere, she's not flipping my laptop.
I'm not flipping out on her. We're having a normal conversation.
I am a little shaky because I am like, very like, oh,
I am very passionate. Well, I'm very passionate as well.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yes, but then you have to practice. We have to
practice it, so it's all good.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
So I'm not If you guys do see me shaking,
it's not me getting mad. It's just like I am
kind of nervous when I do talk about these subjects
as well, because you don't know how the other person
is going to respond, especially in today's atmosphere, like I mentioned,
everyone's flipping out about just simple conversations like.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
What I respect to the fact that that's a simple
conversation that we had, but you know, we're thinking about
how your words were going to land with me. I
think we need as a human community, need to do
more of that respect each other out, Yeah, to think
about how my words affect you, yep, and vice versa.
Is what we're saying going to advance the conversation or
(54:08):
is it going to end the conversation? And we need
to advance conversation rather than end it. But sadly I
think this is yes, I do have to go.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
So thank you Trish for coming on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Oh yeah, thank you for the invitation.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
Guys, where can we find you?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
So? Ransom House thirty four dot com is my website.
I live in Stillwater, but online I live on Instagram, Facebook.
You're on TikTok now x and TikTok I am. I
see your TikTok. Yes, I pay attention. Good. So, yeah,
you can find me and it's Ransom House thirty four
and everything. So I try to keep it as simple
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as possible.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
This is my last question, and it's probably a yes
or no. Is it only federal that can't be on TikTok?
Federal government workers that.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
As a candidate, I can be on so but once
you're as a no, but as my TikTok is me,
but my as a candidate and a campaign. But if
it's not from the state of Oklahoma, because the state
of Oklahoma doesn't pay for my TikTok, it doesn't pay
for any of my.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
I got that. But I was just curious because of
the whole cell phone kind of thing. I believe our
federal If you have a federal phone, even maybe state phone,
you can't use TikTok.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's called my personal got you all right? All right, guys,
go check her out, go vote for her, Yes, vote ransom.
All right, peace, guys, all right, sorry Hunt, trying to
get you out.
And then headphones are optional, but I always.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wear them just so we can hear each other.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And also if I play any audio, okay, or anything
on the computer, we would be great.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Am I close enough? Yeah? You should be great?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, all right, welcome, Well, thank you, Chris. We're just
gonna dive right in. I'm not even going to introduce you.
You've been on the part, are no, I'm just kidding. Guys,
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the podcast. It's been
a while. My last uh my last person that was
on the podcast was a representative representative District thirty three, right,
(00:45):
John Tally. This is his counterpart. She is of the
still Water Prior Proper Proper Proper Area District thirty four.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Trish Ranson, and she's running for re election. So that's
always running for reelection.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's every two years, right, yeah, so you're always running
for the election. Definitely. I actually looked and tried to
look up videos of you on face or not Facebook,
but on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, and what did you find? Did you find some?
I found children's songs now in John, Okay, well this
is good. I found you and John.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know if YouTube will dock me for playing it,
so I won't play it, but you and John we're.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Doing that back three years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, okay, got seventeen views more than what my podcast gets.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, that was rotary, so that was probably rotary members
that were not able to be there. That rotary is
the it's the club. It's a lunch club kind of
like an Elks club kind of thing. Okay, yeah, but
like kawanas and that kind of thing. And they do
civic things like they volunteer in the community and so forth.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So okay, yeah, I see you've done other podcast and interviews.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, look at that Green Greencorn or Greencorn Rebellion show. Yes, yeah,
he ran for office in Shawnee a couple of times,
and so as a Democrat. Yes, right, yes, and so
it was it was wild because our conversations were about
politics and heavy metal. Really, are you a heavy metal fan? Nope,
(02:25):
I have no idea anything about heavy metal, but hey,
we can talk about whatever you want to.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What kind of music are you into? Let's just get
into that real quick.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh let's see if I had to, I like all
kinds honestly, but bluegrass blue is pretty much top because
I go to the bluegrass festival in Windfielder every year.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I would say my genre would be probably red dirt.
Oh yeah, and here in April, if you live in
the Stillwater area or this surrounding area, you can't get room.
So I'm selling spots in my backyard for two hundred
and fifty dollars per tent spot. Bring your own tents
set up in my backyard two fifty per spot. We
can fit about ten people, maybe twenty. There'll be a
(03:05):
fire pit in the middle. It'll be great. Contact me,
she waited. It's way big fast. People are already talking
about Like I have a friend that used to live
here and he sold his house and he's like, I'm
getting tickets and I'm gonna kick the people that bought
my house.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Out, and that should be interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's like, listen, you live in Wisconsin, now, man, I
get that. I know squatter rights are a little different
up there. But here in Oklahoma, right, it's like seven
to ten years before you can even rec like do
squatter right. We made it like basically impossible here in
the state of Oklahoma, which I love, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Interesting because that's how our country or how our state
got formed, was squatter rights.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The sooner state. Yeah, definitely, I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But you know, if he does that, I mean he
does have a place to stay, it'll just be you know,
Payne County jail exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, your choice.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Man, if you watch.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
This, yeah, really.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Not fun. Okay, well there you go. I did that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Let me pull out my phone because I told you,
before we even started, I had chat GPT do some
questions and just because we're in the generation of AI. Yes,
before I even start asking you questions from the AI,
where are your opinions on AI? Where do you think
it will go? Are you for it? Are you against it?
(04:30):
Where are your opinions?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, I think like chat GPT, that type of AI.
I think it's a really great tool, but it needs
to be utilized as a tool rather than a be all,
end all. So I think we've got to use it
in a way that we're still using our critical thinking skills.
I've used chat GPT as well as far as you know.
(04:52):
I had to teach a lesson at Sanger Ridge to
second graders about voting, and I just put in the
parameters and like what would be a second grade as
appropriate lesson? And it came back with a really good
structure of the lesson, But then it was like, okay,
I'm trained to be a teacher. So then it was like, okay, well, no,
(05:12):
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna swap this out. I'm
going to change it this way and made it my own.
But it did create that construct that I could actually
work from. You know, I think you know, being a
gen X person and the terminator that always makes me
a little nervous. You know, are we going that way?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Release and everything? Okay, real quick? Also, could you do
you want drink of water? No? I'm good? Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I was gonna say there's water in that mini fridge
if you want drink, or if you also want drink,
that's good. You haven't seen this. Okay, we'll go down
here and go back.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So is he creating something that's I should just let
you look at it rather than ask you questions while
you're doing it. So this is oh wow, look at
(06:12):
that full these robots.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yep, it's a little scary because it reminds me. Have
you ever seen the movie Eye Robot?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh my gosh, yes, huh, this is where it's kind
of going more or less. Yeah, and uh, he did
say it's gonna beat once they're in mass production. It's
gonna be robots will walk among you. Interesting. Please please
be nice to the Optimus robots they're supposed to. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Twenty to thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Goodness, gracious, that's a car.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yes, yes it is. Wow, but that's still like and
then uh he released the taxi.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh yeah, I did see that self. Right, there's no.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Steering wheel, you have no uh breaks.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I've seen these, I mean not this type, but like
there is, like the autonomous taxis in other cities.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We have canoe right here in Oklahoma, we.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Do, but they're not they up and running. Really yeah,
they're still they're still struggling.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What's what's making them struggle?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you know? They're commercial vehicles. They're not necessarily like
you and I would purchase them. So I believe the
uh postal service and Walmart delivery and so forth, and
so they're they're being used for that. But I had
a friend who traveled to Arizona I think it was,
and they got a cab and it was an autonomous
(07:47):
cab and they basically got in there was no driver
put in the date where they wanted to go the
address and took them away. I was like, man, that
would make me a little nervous. It makes me there
is just period, right. But then I mean afterwards they
said it was a really good experience. I mean, it
just it was safe. And I mean there's so many
sensors on the autonomous vehicles true that they're actually I mean,
(08:08):
they're actually purported to be safer than human drivers, just
in the sense that they've.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Got except for the issues with San Francisco, like one
of that I guess I can't remember what company it was,
but they had giant issues in San Francisco that cards
would just stop in the intersections or if you like,
get into a crowded parking lot, it can't register anything right,
and it just freezes up and stays put. So like
(08:33):
it had weird issues. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
I'd have to look it up myself, but this was
a while back. And also I listened to it on
Joe Rogan, So okay, so you know, obviously.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Take it all with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Right with that, let's do campaign re elections. Yes, as
you run for a reelection, what motivates you to continue
serving District thirty four, and what do you hope to
accomplish in your next term?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, so you know, I believe we are an education
community first and foremost with OSU Career Tech, still Water
High School or public school, excuse me. And we have
an educated constituency. So I believe that still Water needs
an educated representation at the capitol. So that is my
(09:23):
place that I that I feel and I've been the
representative for six years. I've done a great job. I've
made friends across the aisle. I've been able to influence
things as well as push back against other things. And
I think that that is important for still Water to
have that type of representation and that type of poul
(09:44):
if you will, with the state legislature. And so I'm
continuing to wanna to continue doing what I've I've done
in the last six years. Also pushing forward, we definitely
need to push in the arena of public education. We've
done bits and berts of a funding for public ED
and in the last couple of years we've diverted funds
(10:05):
to private ed through the voucher system, which I think
is only going to cause us to be two different classes.
Those who can afford to educate their children and those
who can't. And so we need to make sure that
we are really looking at the whole child and not
deciding whether or not they can afford to be educated,
because our future workforce doesn't care. Right, we need a
(10:29):
workforce that can be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Did just see was it still public schools or was
it just the state of Oklahoma is now pushing for
a project where kids are going to learn or focus
more on like more blue collar or more work related.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, that has the push lately just overall from the.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Shininess state chamber. We shouldn't we learn how to do
taxes in school? Like and I didn't really learn about
in school, you know what I mean? So like when
I heard about taxes, I didn't. My mom does my
taxes right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, And it's an applicle, it's an applical bull skill,
that's the word. If you don't know how any way
of how to approach it, you don't have any experience
in it, you're not going to learn it because it
doesn't make any sense to you. And so I would
agree we need to as well. We need education be
should be educating our future citizens. It should be focused
(11:30):
on not only just workforce, but quality of life, and
how do we make so that Oklahoma's can advance, How
do we make it to wear Oklahoma advances. We're at
the bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Of the list, right, but I also don't want most
like because we're at the bottom, this sounds interesting, this
is going to be interesting, how I wore it. Because
we're at the bottom. I feel like more students would
be more willing to go into the workforce than trying
to go into college. I think college, in my opinion,
(12:03):
doesn't necessarily work for everybody. And just who I've seen
who I associate myself with, a lot of them haven't
gotten to college, and their comedians, podcasters or you know, radio,
all that kind of stuff. They're successful people still, So
like I figure like we should be at the point
(12:25):
where public schools should also be educating students on the
fact that you can also just from a high school diploma,
you can get a good working job as well instead
of having to you know, have the pressure of going
to college as well. Right, because my parents pressured me
to go well not my mom, but my dad definitely
(12:46):
pressured me to go to college and I flunked out,
so you know, and adn't work.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And here I am in my garage interviewing, well, and
you make it work because you have to make it work. Yes,
And I think that you're right. I mean, we should
be able to allow students to go forward to where
their interests are and where they want to be. College
in my generation was it was a way of making
(13:11):
sure that I could earn a living wage. And and we.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Come from two different generations, we don't. I don't think
college is the same as it was when you were
in school. Well, when you were.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Going absolutely not, because just the way we fund it.
I mean when I went to college, it was eighty
percent subsidized by the government and right now, my son
graduated two years ago it was subsidized twenty percent. So
it's even less now. And so that's why we're seeing
so many loans.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That the students payments have gone up. Oh absolutely, So
then why has the why is the government not paying as.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Much towards the car lot of money, but.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Why has it so hand on hand on? So let's
go back and talk about this. Maybe even for your generation,
probably baby boomers, they were able to afford a house
a one income salary for household you know, daughter, son, mother, father,
(14:11):
and the father only had to work. And I've looked
at kind of like the interest rate on everything like
housing and market, job market, everything has gone up correct,
but payment or income hasn't moved whatsoever. And I'm not
(14:32):
talking about memum wage either. I get well mimum wage. Honestly,
I'd be okay with memum wage going up a little bit,
but it can't be too much like California where they're
going to push it to like is it twenty seven?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, and it reasans to be at that point incremental.
It can't just be all at once, otherwise the whole
system will crash down.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I think Florida is pushing like fifteen dollars for
minium wage, but it's over a three to four year,
right kind of deal Florida or California, I think is
the next year or so plans on just going twenty
seven ninety nine?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah per hour for Memori No, and that means a.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Big They're like another country quite honestly, the same with Texas.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, But the problem with California is a lot of
companies are going to move out because they're not gonna
want to pay the minimum wage of twenty seven ninety nine,
Like I know, the in and out owners, she's talked
about leaving California altogether where in and Out started, which
is crazy to think that there wouldn't be an in
and out in California. But she's talked about she can't afford,
(15:32):
you know, sixteen seventeen year olds and paying them twenty
seven ninety nine for and she said, then their hours
are gonna be cut, right, I mean, it's just an
economical thing. And don't get me wrong, I get people
are hurting as well. I just like the idea of
moving it slower into a process. And I only know
if twenty seven ninety nine is necessarily a good idea,
(15:54):
I would cut it at probably fifteen, like Florida is
doing as a minimum wage, because you then anything else
is you can just go up from there, you know
what I mean, there's no going down. I mean, it's
a legal to go down from there, you know, you know,
if you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Think about it, like you said about the boomer generation,
you know my parents, I mean, I grew up in
a household for kids. I was the youngest. My dad
was a machinist, he worked, my mother didn't, and we
had one car and we it. We somehow were able
to take vacation as well. I mean, but at that time,
(16:28):
I mean you also had union. You also had taxes
that we pay that paid for a lot of things
that helped subsidize You also.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Have war as well of funding everything as well too.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, and so now you we don't have those things,
and that was another part of the whole higher ed funding.
We don't have the taxes that are going to that.
We are not supporting the university institutions. And into the
point now we're changing them into workforce development sites, which
that is not necessarily what universities need to be. Universities
need to be places of thought where we actually work.
(17:01):
It's like how do we work within the larger global economy?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I agree with that, but also I do think
we should do more of a workforce as well. I
don't think I don't think there's enough workforce kind of
schools out there. I mean, we have Meridian Tech here,
we also is it Oylton that has one.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, there's a Career Tex all the.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Way society, we have multiple career tech schools. But I
just feel like it's not like enough, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
If you're not going to go. I mean, the great
thing about career tech is that they they have like, Okay,
we're going to give these type of job experiences for
you because they make a living wage. And if they
don't make a living wages, they don't offer them, right.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I get that. I get that, But like I guess,
everything is on a small scale, if that makes any sense,
Like Meridians not a huge campus. It's a it's a
good sized campus, but it's not a huge campus. So
I just I don't know, is there a is there
a tech school that is the size of the actual universe?
(18:02):
I mean oak Moogi, okayom State into you know, I
guess I just answered my own question.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I don't know. But they're you're talking.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They're part of okhom State University.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
They're part of the they're.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Part of the system. I was trying to just completely
take it out of the system.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The career techs are built to where they are part
of the system technically, aren't they They're they're their own system, really, yes, Okay.
And they are in communities where it is easy for
access in it and so forth. So they're peppered all
the way through Oklahoma because of that, and they're government
funding as well though. Yeah, they get federal government funding,
(18:37):
they get state funding, and they also get property tax
part of the for their funding. And it's it's built
on the fact that Okay, well, if you need a
skill or you need to upskill that you can travel there,
you can be there. If you work during the day,
you can work at not you can do school at night.
And they're very flexible and that's I think one of
(19:00):
their greatest strengths is that they can meet people where
they need to be. Universities, you know, because we have
the funding has been dwindling over the years. Universities like
OSU they focus on the eighteen or twenty two year old,
so our non traditional students aren't necessarily a high focus
because they it's just it doesn't work that way. And
(19:23):
you have to have night classes, well then that means
you have to pay more for your faculty to be
at night and so forth. Yeah, it's so it's it's
been I mean, it was a business decision many years ago,
and I understand it, but at the same time, I
think we're missing the mark on a lot of people
who need that next certificate.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
The next step. Yeah, absolutely, I get what you mean,
going back to the AI questions, what has your platform,
how has your platform evolved since your last election, and
what new issues or challenges are you focused on this
time around.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So my three issues have been I mean, in twenty eighteen,
my three issues were public education funding, access to healthcare
and that's affordable, and then food insecurity because food insecurity
was a big issue that I saw. I'm just going
in grocery tax cut, right, that is correct. And what
(20:18):
I realized after that is that food insecurity is a symptom,
symptom of something else greater, and that is economic as
well and so forth. So it is still a big
huge focus of mine. I mean, I volunteer. I try
to volunteer weekly for Mobile Meals, which is delivering of
meals on and Fridays my day. And I absolutely love
(20:40):
that because it's it's something that I can actually do
with my time to help someone like It's very tangible.
But I've changed my third one from last election in
this election to equal opportunity because what I'm seeing is
is that our Republican superman majority legislature is pushing more
(21:02):
and more this myth that Oklahomas look and worship the
same and we have four million Oklahomas from very diverse populations, backgrounds,
religions and so forth. And I think what we end
up doing in that regard is that we start to
eliminate or we start to exclude people. And people are here.
(21:25):
We need to represent them, no matter who they are
and how they live, how they worship. Last time I
talked to you, we had four Democrats in the House.
I believe we have twenty. Last time I talked to you, though,
we had eighteen. I think, yes, so we've got twenty
now we're hoping for that number of Democrats. Well, at
(21:45):
one point it is a very low number. Still, we
have one hundred and one representatives in the House. I
got you, so, yeah. But it's one of those things
where I mean, that's that is an issue for me
because if we're not at ten to the issues for
the folks who were in the margins, were really not
moving the needle for anyone going forward, because then we're
(22:08):
just basically like, Okay, well you have so we're going
to help you. You have not We're not going to
help you. And I don't believe that that is what
we should be doing going forward. Excuse me. The issue
of childcare and accessibility and affordability of childcare is something
that has been this last couple of years, have been
on my radar and will continue to be that we
(22:31):
had a lot of federal funds come down during the
pandemic to help subsidize our childcare. We have a business
model that doesn't work because we went to universal pre
K several years ago and that takes all the four
year olds out of childcare and into the public school system.
It's great for kids, however, it's not great for the
(22:52):
child care facilities. It's more in labor costs and the
wage for the workforce and childcares is not a living wage,
and so we've got an issue there. So workforce is
a problem. But also how we can make payroll for
our child cares because of our subsidy reimbursement that they
(23:13):
get for our low income families.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Would Oklahoma consider optimists and such.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Childcare is one of those things. It needs a human touch,
it really does.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But also I think children would just destroy them. Yeah,
probably just toys, bang on them all that, And I
don't think they're supposed to be banged.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
No, But you know, the subsidy, the federal dollars ended
last month, and we have to decide as a state,
do we value childcare? Do we value the early childhood
ages to where we are going to step in and
help fill the gap. And that's the big question, and
so that's my big push as to how do we
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fix the the business model for childcare is how do
we make sure that childcare is affordable and accessible? How
do we address the low pay of our workforce in
the childcare realm? And how do we go forward to
where they are now ready? Those students are going to
be ready for school when it comes time.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, here's a side question because I was waiting on
this question and you're still residum still Water. Obviously you
have to get a residum still wort to run to
for your office. But have you heard about this data
center that you're supposed to go in? We're your opinions
on this data center? Good bad? Where the pros cons
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to it? I guess because everything I've read on it,
no one really knew anything about it, and the city
just kind of forced it. And now they're having a
vote on whether OG and E powers it or is it.
The City of still Water Electric is going to power.
It one of the too, I think, and the mayor
has said that either one has the infrastructure to you know,
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supply the data center, but we the citizens didn't even
know about it in the first place. So I'm just
I'm just interested in your opinion as a system, maybe
not even as a representative, just as a citizen. Is
a data it's to my understanding, it's supposed to help
produce jobs obviously, but also it helps with education the infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That's all. I got those three things. Well you've got
a general view of it, so that's great. A data
center is something that basically it's a big, huge building
with a lot of computers and it just processes data
and that helps with the Internet and the Internet of
things and all of that kind of stuff. So it's
it is something that is needed as far as our
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technology advances. There it is it has been a a
deal that has been in the works for at least
six years. It first started under when Mary Fallon was governor,
so probably maybe six seven years came in. It's it's
six years ago. Mayor Noble would that be Mayor Noble possibly,
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I don't know who was mayor.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Does it matter who was mayor. No, okay, Okay, I
didn't know. It doesn't so the mayor didn't have anything
to do with it in the first place.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, And I think you know this far, how.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Is that possible? How I like it? It's going north
of in city limits. So doesn't the city have say
against the state?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The land was the trying to think of what the
what the term is. But it is land that's owned
by the state, okay, and so imminent domain. No, it's
not eminent domain. I mean we have land that is
owned by the state all around the state of a
manage and taxes and all of that is put on
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towards funding education. Okay. So there there's this land and
in north still still water that fits this bill, and
there was arms and all that right north of that,
and the company coming in and there has been I mean,
as is all deals, no non disclosure. So we it's
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rumored that it's Google, but it's never been reported that
it's Google, because the people that are in the room
can't can't say.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, i've heard bad reviews on Google, because so is it.
Piedmont or Prior had a data center put in and
they're suffering, is what I've heard. From other people that
have commented.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
On they suffering pollution.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's all I've read. I need to read. Okay, I
just started reading this this weekend, so I need.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
To dive definitely get into more information. Because there is.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Water pollution. That's because someone talked about white noise going
on with this center. But also if it's going out
by Armstrong and what's the copper building over there, I mean,
they're already making noise regardless. I mean, what's another. I
guess in my opinion, I guess what's another. But my
also other concern is rolling blackouts. Are we going to
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have issues about that?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
All right? So we're going to have noise pollution. So
because it has been in the works for six years,
they're already planning as to where they're going to put
the site so that it is insulated. It's going to
be built insulated. Then it's also going to be insulated
as the center part of the land, so that that
way it's the furthest away from it, we're not even
going to see it. It's also going to be surrounded
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by trees and the landscape, so all of that's still
going to be there. You're not even going to most
people are not even going to know where it is
because they're not going to be able to see it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We already have one here, if I'm correct, we don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We don't have.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Someone said we already have a data center and we
didn't even know about Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Now, and so let's talk about water. So water is
used for cooling, but water we have ample water source
for both fit actually for the first phase, and if
they were to expand to the second phase, we still
have ample water. Where's this water coming from? From our water?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Is it Boomer Callake?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We have a straw basically a pipeline that goes right
up to call Lake. If they should decide that they're
going to expand, then getting more water is on them
and they have to pay for it. This is hundreds
of millions of dollars to get a new pipeline. So
they have to pay for it. And that's a good
thing for still Water because then still Water doesn't have
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to pay for it. And that's one of the things
we try to get government funds during COVID to pay
for reinforcing it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And so if just you know, hypothetically, if they ever
left town, what would happen to that water line. Would
we be able to expand it into town and use
it ourselves?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
If this is a lot of ifs, yep, right right
right like that to pay for it, they paid for it,
it would still be ours really, and that's part of
the contract.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So they wouldn't have to dig it up. And I
mean they went dig it up. I just assume they
just close it or you know, pipe it off, and
we would at that point, I would assume the water
only runs to the center. Would the taxpayers at that
point have to pay for the extension into the city
or is it going to be connects?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
A lot of ifs, but I think it's going to be.
That's part of one of those scenarios that they've put
been putting in the contract. I got you, Okay, So
then let's talk about We talked about noise pollution, we
talked about potter, and then you had one more question
as far as blackouts. Blackouts. So here's the issue. What's
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on the ballot is the fact that in under the
state constitution, if we have power districts, and the power
districts have priority, and you can't have a power district
move into another power district and can peat it's like
it's set. So the reason why we're voting on the ballots,
so it's one data center per no, no, no, no,
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I'm talking power. So still Water still Water provides our power.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Still our electric center, over.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Water Electric provides our power. So no one else can
come in. So og and E can't come in and
into our area unless we vote for it. And so
it's not a vote of we do we want og
and E or do we want Stillwater Electric? It is
a it's this. We are allowing og and E to
come in and power the data center. That's all we're
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voting on.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
And to my understanding, og and E would eventually profit
for us, like the city would profit more off of
og and E than it would with still Water.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So I don't think we will have rolling brownouts or blackouts.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
But I trust og and E more with power than
I do with Stillwater. I've heard still Ware has issues
with their electric with their I've heard a few, like
just a few rumblings about still were Electric charging people
too much for their electricity or just like cutting power
off here and there around the city.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, I think all power entities have issues because og
I total their rates when they we had the I
just better storm.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
URI correct, But I do believe og and has probably
a better grid than what still Water Electric does.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, all I know is that og and E has
worked with other data centers and so they have a
they have under experience and an understanding with what is needed.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And so plus og and E isn't plugging into the city,
They're plugging into only the factor. I'm voting yes on
og and E to be honest, well, because it would
make millions for the city regardless. Plus we don't have
to worry about rowing blackouts, if that's my concern. If
Still were now the mayor says that still We're Electric
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does have the bandwidth or whether the amperage or wattage,
I don't believe that. I'm sorry, I just don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I Like you said, every electric company has their issues,
and I get og and E probably has their issues,
did have their issues during the freeze and storms and everything.
But also g and E is a bigger company. They're
going to be individual towards this factory or this area
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where still our Electric is now going to have to.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Funnel.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I think there'd be blackouts if still are Electric did
it in my opinion. I just that's that's just my opinion. Also,
I mean, I've.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Not ever had any problems with still Water Electric, and
I like the fact that it's still Water Electric. I'm downtown.
I'm to go down there if I have a problem.
I mean, I like that.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I'm not trying to talk smack on still Our Electric.
I just I've noticed issues on the community page. And
I mean even.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Huge don't read the community UNI pages wild.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's wild the old one, but the new one is better.
I like the new one that was started by.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh, what's his name? I'm getting messed up, Kyle.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, Kyle started a new one, Kyle Gooden. M I
shout out to you, Kyle.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
There you go. I'm not I'm not on it. I
just yeah, really you're not on any of them.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
No good for you. You shouldn't be on any of them.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I mean, I'm like, I would rather talk to people
face to face, not just hear all of the other things.
Do you hear that, Mollie Jenkins shout out to you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
It's amazing, Like I out of politicians, Democrats are more
willing to talk in Oklahoma wise than most Republicans. I've
invited quite a few Republicans onto my podcast.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Because they don't feel like they don't feel like they have.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
To your opponent. Yeah, what's his name? Ryan, Brian Andrew
much more. Yeah, I was way off and Ryan was
last time.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I think Ryan. Gosh, that was my last uponent.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He was a young j I think he was, Yes, yes, yeah,
I think is.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I've I've slept since then.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I envied him on the front porch I have, I
think a few weeks after I did yours. I want
to get both points of view, obviously, so he was
one of the Republicans that did. Obviously, John always was
willing to see it. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
But not Molly.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No. I want to hear from her, and it's kind
of interesting. She's like, you know, I want to hear
the voice of everyone in my I.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Mean she won in June. So now I mean she's
not sworn in, so she's not official.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I told you i'd even talk about this when you
come on the podcast because I was concerned about it.
So John's still there technically yea, he.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Is the representative until swearing in, which is November twentieth,
and so she's not sworn in, so she's not necessarily
the rep yet, but this is a great time to
start establishing relationships with the Burden and the Commission. And
I know, and it's just kind of it's really interesting
because I'm thinking, Wow, I would totally use that time
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if it were me. Right, she's not me, so that's okay.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean I've sent her multiple messages, I tried to
communicate nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well, I hope that changes after November twentieth, because I
think the people of how District thirty three require representation.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
John was very open. Absolutely, he kept his door literally open,
is what he told me. It was literally open to
anyone if they were down in Oakham City if you
had his phone number. Yeah, I can't even get like
I can't get Molly's phone number because generally, I, you know,
first I would hit you up on Facebook or whatever.
Then we'd be become you should be a friend.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Minded on the Ethics Commission website that too.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
But I guess I was looking for personal numbers with
John at least and with you as well. So but yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can find government numbers. Yeah, and John would always answer,
but like there's I don't know, I'm getting frustrated. With her,
and she's not even my representative. You're my representative. I
live in the city of still Wall, and I'm gonna
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come out greatest place and say it. I'm a Republican.
I'm a registered Republican, and I can still sit down
with a Democrats such as yourself to work with most
of the Okay, but I feel like it's very rare
in the time that we are living that Republicans and
Democrats can even sit down, Like I see a lot
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if we like you and I could probably disagree on
something and we're not gonna scream no, we're not getting yell,
you're not getting mess. You're not going to just charge out,
throw my camera on the ground. And you know, but
have you seen these tiktoks or at least videos of
Democrats Republicans all having their freak out moments, all just
being little pressy little bywards.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yes, it's it doesn't help, and you know what ends
up doing it only hurts because then if you try
to have a conversation later, you still remember that exactly
and you're like, Okay, I know who you really are,
and you're not You're not someone who's going to be
able to have a conversation with me, and and in
the job that I do, I absolutely have to have
conversations with people, and so it's not worth freaking out. Now,
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Can I disagree respectfully? Absolutely? If someone says something that
is not truthful, then I will say that's not truthful.
And it's more this. I mean, that's that's how we
do things right, And I mean having a one on
one conversation means that we come to a better understanding
of each other and what our shared values are. And
that's really really important.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Last time I talked to you, I believe oh you
and Texas had already announced they were leaving the Big twelve.
Oh man, Yeah, and I believe you were talking about
Republicans trying to block oh you from profit.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That was a flashback right there from trying to profit
with the SEC. Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
The Republican Party is more of a capitalist, I go
get your own money type of But you.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Know, I mean, looking back now, it's like they were
just they were hurt, they were heart broken. Where did that?
Where did that end up? Oh you set make their money, right,
They're going to make their money. It's so fine.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, there's no way they're not going to make their
money with the SEC. Do you think OSU will go
to the SEC eventually?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I have no idea. I am not I'm not a
sports person. It's a business decision, and I think we'll
see how it is with without OU and the conference
for a while and then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's against that's not my pay grade.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't know how much Congress has with athletics. Like obviously,
I guess they thought they could block O you from
getting SEC money.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
But here's a back to where we were talking before.
We don't subsidize higher ed like we used to, and
so therefore we really don't have much.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Say so, you only put in about twenty percent when
you what back, how how long ago did the state
put in eighty percent?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That was in the late eighties, early nineties. Wow. Yeah,
a lot has changed. And it's the whole privatization which
bothers me too, because you know, when we come to research,
we've got so much private entity dollars going into our research.
It's like, Okay, well is this really standalone education and
research or is this where research and development for the companies?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Where did the sixty percent go you're talking about it
went to companies instead of going to education.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
No, instead of going to cut I mean it was
cuts in taxes, so then we didn't put as much
money into it, so then they didn't have to pay
as much. And so then what ends up happening is
the people who do go to college have to fot
the bill where the state would have.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
It's like sixty eight hours and to go.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And so now you've got all of this high student
debt debt and there's no such thing. We created it.
Quite honestly, you.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Can't bankrupt or file for bankruptcy on that's the only thing.
You can't file for bankruptcy on. Right, that's wild. But
at the same time, isn't file for bankruptcy the federal
government's forgiven your debt basically, isn't that what that is?
And then you have seven years? No, they do.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's a very different system. And I mean because a
lot of the debt that has been forgiven, this is
what we need to learn in school. I didn't learn this.
The debt that's forgiven is not necessarily the debt like
what you had to pay for your college education. It's
the mountain of interest. Yeah. So I mean, just like
I had a conversation with a friend of mine, and
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she had her college debt forgiven. She has is fifteen
to twenty years out of college. She was still paying debt.
She got it forgiven. And because she had that debt forgiven,
she actually had money to actually open her own business.
So you know, when you talk about that, it's like, oh,
my gosh, what a great asset for her to be able.
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And it was a childcare and I'm like, yes, exactly,
you know, And so she's gone into childcare now and
she's having a really hard time making ends meet. Just now,
imagine if she had debt, there would be no way
that she would have opened that childcare.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You just mentioned your son graduated years ago. If you
don't mind me asking, how is he doing with this debt?
Does he have debt or was he on scholarship?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
He had a lot of scholarship. He was an engineering student.
So that's that's a long time. Yes, yes, well it
was four years. But he congratulations, thank you. He has
limited debt, which is good. And uh he now works
for pay coom and so oh he hits a good job.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Well, he's a smart engineer, but he's not like the smart, smart,
smart engineers that go to school for like ten plus.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, he did four years and then he was he
needed he needed a break, not not you know what I.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Mean, not downgra my bad. When you said engineer, I'm
thinking of the guys that make Toyota and then put
the oil filter behind the muffler to make it difficult
for every person to work on their car. Those kind
of people that think they're geniuses, but really they're not geniuses,
but they still get paid six figures a year just
to do just to screw with technicians that I thought
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that was.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Just know he's a good guy. He learned well, but
the he was electrical engineering and there's a lot of
mathematic technician with the Yeah, but he's doing tech support.
I mean it's like low stress and he is. Yeah,
it's a good job.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
So see, I was thinking about that to the production work,
like you see everything in here, I mean, yeah, yeah,
I think I'm halfway there already.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well you know, I mean yeah, because you have to.
I mean it's like, how do I make this work?
What do I I mean, like I said before, when
we came in here initially, I mean, you've you've advanced
greatly since the last time that we sat down and talk.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't have video last time. No, no, So yeah,
definitely good for you, Thank you, I appreciate it. Let's
do one more question before you got I got the
hard Yeah you have a heart out, all right, Let's
do voter issues. Voter issues, where's some key uh? Where
the some of the key issues or policies you think
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will define this election for voters in District thirty four.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Okay, say that again. What are the issues that are defining.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
The key issues or policies you think will define this
election for district?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well, number one the national election. Who is president and
vice president? I think that's the number one thing the
top of the ticket. The next thing is Ryan Walters.
Quite honestly, Ryan Walters is our state. He's not. He is.
It's a four year term, so he's two years in.
And what's frustrating is that he is. He is the
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number one topic on the doors. That's what I've been seen.
And so regardless of party, everyone that I talk to,
the number one issue that they have is Ryan Walters
and Bibles in the classroom, and so that is affecting
how they vote. And so they are looking at Okay,
who is going to be someone who pushes back against that,
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who's going to make sure that he is held accountable
for his actions and actions. I've been on the record
for multiple years now of you know, this is not
how you run the state Department of Ed. We are
vilifying our teachers. We are having poor results as far
as educational outcomes for our students. Our schools are not
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healthy learning environments under his leadership.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
So you would be against Molly Jenkins when she says that,
you know, like, sorry, uh where She's like, we should
abolish the teachers union and.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
We don't have a teacher's union number or not not teaching. No,
but that's what I'm sure she said it.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Board of She said we should abolish or not abolish,
but restart the Board of Education or the.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
The National Department of Ed.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Sure, yes, that's something education. We need to have a
teachers union.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Well, okay, there's that too, But we need to stand.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
A national teachers union, don't we.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
The NEA and it's a National Education Association. Weren't you
a member of that? I was a member of the OEA,
the Oklahoma Education Association.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yes, so is that union.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
We are a non union state, so it is an association.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, so we talked about this last time.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I'm sure, so they cannot force me to do anything.
I pay dues or I paid dues. Excuse me, because
I'm no longer a member of.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
A retired teacher school teacher. Aren't you a really spared No?
So how do you not pay any dues of your stuties?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I'm not in the classroom. You have to be an
active teacher to.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Be so it's kind of like a licensing Okay, I
got you.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, licensing is different, but you have to be in
the classroom in order to be a member. And so
I paid my dues and it was actually really great
support because it was other teachers. If I ever had
an issue with my principal, I knew that I had support.
If I ever had an issue with parents, I knew
I had support with my principal, with my association. And
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it's it's it's one of those things that you know
when you're a classroom teacher. You're basically an independent contractor,
but you work for a dish, but you are also
a state employee, but you don't get paid by the state.
You get paid by your district. It's really it's I
didn't know that it is. But to have that association
around you, with other teachers that walk the walk and
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talk the talk, oh my gosh, it is so vital.
And so the fact that you know there's this rhetoric
of let's let's abolish that, Well, what you really want
to do is you want to take power away from teachers. Well,
I would like you to pay them what you want
to pay them, which is not a living wage.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
What I would like to do is redo the system.
But for the better of the teachers and students. I
feel like both are not getting what they birth deserve.
And I feel like I'm all for reset with this
with the teacher union, not union association. Sorry my bad,
my bad, but the association, I am all for resetting.
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I'm not all for abolishing Mollie. I can be salty,
I'm sorry, And it's not me being a becoming a democrat. Yeah,
just a little bit with Mollie. But I don't like Mollie.
I'm gonna be honest. I was a Tally fan and
Tally came on my podcast explained everything that Mollie was
bleeding over and lying about.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And I mean, I mean it's hard because Tally is
an amazing human.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I've known him all my life, so it's kind I'm
kind of biased on it, and maybe that's why she
won't even communicate with me. But I want her to
have the chance. Like I've given your opponent for this
election to I've hit him up with the same messages
I hit everyone up, and he has not gotten back
to me. Like you said, Republicans always think, you know,
I tried to do our Mayor Will Joyce, but like
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he's I believe he's a Republican or.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
He's an independent. Is he really still doesn't want to
talk to me.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I feel like I mean, I mean, if anything I say,
I'm a Republican, but more than anything, I'm a constitutionalist.
What's in our constitution I wholeheartedly believe. But also I
do believe that our founding fathers, and I think I
even mentioned this last time made the constitution for us
to had.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
We only have twenty seven documents, so it must adapt.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
And I think I explained this last time, like if
you have, like if you want certain abortion laws or
certain things about which I'm getting touchy, I know, you know,
but we should amend a constitution, like make a constitution
what are they called amendments? We should, you know, and
I know you need two thirds of the House, two
thirds of the Senate to even have it pass. But
(49:29):
let's get our shit together, guys, like seriously if you like.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
But we're too busy fighting one another rather than working
to fight out.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
My thing is I am for for women's health. I
do believe in like the women's health medical thing, but
also with the whole abortion thing, I think it should
come down to the health of a woman. Rape incest
is my opinion. That's my opinion because I think it
takes two people to make a baby. I don't think
you should just talk about that second person that takes
(49:58):
to make a baby. H Are there any implications? Are
there any things that affect his life? Absolutely, he's going
to have to pay for that child. I have my
own child. Yeah, he's gonna have to have that. I'm
gonna have to pay for him all my life. I mean,
his mother and I are together, but not.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
In the law. In the law, it's all the limitations
for her rights. His rights are not affected.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Well, he's going to have to pay, regardless of you,
but not until he's eighteen.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Not in the law.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Law.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
But I mean, there's there's all that child support is
not law. Well, the child support is law, but as
far as I'm talking about what you can do with
your body, mm hm, there is nothing. So I would
have issue in the sense that, Okay, why are we
making it to where we are micromanaging half of the population.
(50:50):
How about we focus on the education, focus on public health,
focus on trusting women to make decisions for themselves, and
then we most likely won't have the problems if we
educate on the front end and we talk about prevention
rather than oh well, sorry, it's too bad, so sad.
(51:13):
I mean, it's yeah, well that's gonna be always a
tricky conversation.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
It is.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
It is a tricky conversation. But you know, as a woman,
to the sense that I have less rights in some
states than others, then that's a frustration. The fact that
my daughter will not return to the state of Oklahoma,
that is a problem, and I think that is a
Also it bleeds into the childcare issue where we have
(51:39):
families who the mother is staying at home and not
in the workforce, which is going to hurt her later.
As far as social security and journey, you.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Do have to understand why the Supreme Court did overrule
Roe versus Way Now because it isn't It's not constitutional.
If you read the Constitution, there's nothing about abortion in
the Constitution before hold on, I know your your your
I see your your gears work, and I understand our
founding fathers didn't necessarily know about the process. I mean,
(52:08):
it did happen. Don't get me wrong, but everything I've
read is brutal. Back in the seventeen hundreds. The woman
probably didn't survive most of the time, you know, But I
get but they didn't put it in there. My point
of view is, if you want it, amend it put
in the Constitution, then you can do that. That's why
I agree with the Supreme Court's ruling of Roe versus Wid,
(52:30):
because it wasn't constitutional. If you want something to be
in writing like Row versus WAD, if you want to
try to bring back Row versus Wid, then may amend
it into the Constitution. That's I mean, that's the only way.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
You know, that's your opinion, that's valid, and then that's fine.
I mean, I think that's.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
The only way you're going to be able to do it,
because I mean, if I don't think Roe versus Waid
was No, I it's not. I don't think I know.
Versus Weid was not constitutional.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Well, they going forward. I think as far as a
Republican super majority of this state, yes, that's the only
way that I get either that or a Balid initiative
at the state level.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
That'd be interesting about it, Yeah, that would be interesting. See, guys,
we just had a very touchy subject, very touchy conversation.
She's not throwing my camera everywhere, she's not flipping my laptop.
I'm not flipping out on her. We're having a normal conversation.
I am a little shaky because I am like, very like, oh,
I am very passionate. Well, I'm very passionate as well.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yes, but then you have to practice. We have to
practice it, so it's all good.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
So I'm not If you guys do see me shaking,
it's not me getting mad. It's just like I am
kind of nervous when I do talk about these subjects
as well, because you don't know how the other person
is going to respond, especially in today's atmosphere, like I mentioned,
everyone's flipping out about just simple conversations like.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
What I respect to the fact that that's a simple
conversation that we had, but you know, we're thinking about
how your words were going to land with me. I
think we need as a human community, need to do
more of that respect each other out, Yeah, to think
about how my words affect you, yep, and vice versa.
Is what we're saying going to advance the conversation or
(54:08):
is it going to end the conversation? And we need
to advance conversation rather than end it. But sadly I
think this is yes, I do have to go.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
So thank you Trish for coming on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Oh yeah, thank you for the invitation.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
Guys, where can we find you?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
So? Ransom House thirty four dot com is my website.
I live in Stillwater, but online I live on Instagram, Facebook.
You're on TikTok now x and TikTok I am. I
see your TikTok. Yes, I pay attention. Good. So, yeah,
you can find me and it's Ransom House thirty four
and everything. So I try to keep it as simple
(54:45):
as possible.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
This is my last question, and it's probably a yes
or no. Is it only federal that can't be on TikTok?
Federal government workers that.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
As a candidate, I can be on so but once
you're as a no, but as my TikTok is me,
but my as a candidate and a campaign. But if
it's not from the state of Oklahoma, because the state
of Oklahoma doesn't pay for my TikTok, it doesn't pay
for any of my.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
I got that. But I was just curious because of
the whole cell phone kind of thing. I believe our
federal If you have a federal phone, even maybe state phone,
you can't use TikTok.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's called my personal got you all right? All right, guys,
go check her out, go vote for her, Yes, vote ransom.
All right, peace, guys, all right, sorry Hunt, trying to
get you out.
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