Episode #87 - Avid Hunter, Ex-Oklahoma State Wrestler Kaid Brock! - TheHeleyCast

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up, guys. Welcome back to another episode of the
Healey Cast. As you can see, my guest today is
ex wrestler hunter and remind me what you do for eleven.
I'm sorry, Cad, my bet you're fine real estate managing
specialists for the state. Yes, that that's a lot to say. Yeah,
I'm glad you said it over me, Ladies and gentlemen.

(00:27):
My guest today is Cad Brock. The reason I had
him on is because he's an avid hunter. Mainly, That's
the reason I had him on. And he just got
out of Deer Blind just what forty five minutes ago,
give or take, right at about six. I was able
to get down. Oh you were out okay, about two
and a half hours ago. But still the overcast and

(00:48):
I think legal is yeah, especially I get stuck in
the tree though, because I'll have deer around and I'm
waiting for it to get good and dark so that
way they don't know what I am and I can
slip down and out. Yeah, I get that. I haven't
been deer hunting in a long time. I go. I
do a lot more bird upland upland and waterfowl. I

(01:11):
just gone to waterfowl, like the last two or three years.
I love waterfowl, but I'm a big I love big
game hunting, and usually if I get tagged out, oh
I'm waterfowling hard. But it's just usually I have a
deer picked out, and I'm gonna chase him until I
have no time left to chase him in the season.
I mean, when you have trail cams, you can always
pick out your It's kind of going to the grocery store, guys.

(01:33):
You get to see your meal before. Oh yeah, And
you know I sometimes miss those days before trail cams,
that that what if? What if? But then again you
think about it, how much time some guys spend at
a spot that didn't have big deer but it looked
really good, right, and always thinking what's coming in next,
and it just never came. And then trail camers came

(01:55):
out and you had to go check them. I remember
the days when I first started getting trail cams, a
big old box. Yeah, you gotta go get the SD
card or even the USB. Yeah, if you're going old
old it used to be USB, then it went to
SD cards, used to have the film ones like you
actually put Yeah, that was way before my time. And
those were snap just pictures. They weren't even video. Yeah,

(02:16):
I've never used the video. I would use up so
much SD space and battery. Well I think my dad
has the ones that are like hooked up to sell plans.
Ye okay, yeah, and you can literally just pull it
up right now. On after college I got into them.
Oh god, and uh they're in college. I remember, I
just had them SD card cameras and I liked them,

(02:39):
little small ones I could put in my pack, and uh,
I always had one on me because I would, oh,
there's a big scrape. This, this is new. I'm put
a camera on it. See what's coming in. Yeah, but
those cell cameras they changed the game. Oh yeah, yeah,
definitely that. I mean it's almost damn near cheating. Sometimes
it's just like, but I will tell you this, I will.

(03:00):
I kind of thought that because I mean I had
not this lot this season, actually this season, not this
season had been the season last year and the season
before that. I had two big deer I killed that
she probably wouldn't have been killed without camera, without that
Celle camera sending me that picture and time I did
sound creepy or anything, but on your Instagram. I saw

(03:20):
a few nice, big old one but that you had
two years ago. I had one picture this year and
uh remember ru ARCJ A. J Rourke would have been
your grade. Yeah, I remember. His little sister was the
grade below me. His their mom was my third grade teacher. Okay,
And I hunt a fifty acre piece I have out
there and there's always pretty good deer on it and

(03:43):
it's just good location. Yeah. And uh man, I had
a buck that I just did my first food plot.
Did a pretty good little food plot. We didn't get
no rain, but finally got a rain. It started kind
of coming up. Had that little wheat shoots yep, and
put a camera on it. Once we got that rain,
and I saw the plot was coming up, because before
that it was like it just dirt. There ain't no point, right,

(04:04):
and put that camera up in first night there is
a stud and I'm like, oh, here we go. Never
had them again really November sixth it was I had
already shot a really good deer that I thought was
gonna be October seventh, I shot a giant deer that
I thought was gonna be the hardest deer ever to kill.

(04:24):
And I went in one time and killed him. And
you know that deer, he never came in front of
the camera. I had him on camera for a month
going up a season, but he was just he was odd.
He never had a set schedule and I didn't. I
had one daylight picture. And of course I'm in western
Oklahoma chasing a white tail there on the end loss
that I thought was gonna be the easiest deer to kill.

(04:44):
And I never laid eyes on him. So cameras tell
you a part of it. They don't tell you the
whole story. Western. They're a little bigger than what we
get around here, is, aren't they They can It's it's different,
uh like on my in law's land, for example, they're geary.
I mean they're they're kind of like West, but they're
more mid They're not they're not far west. I got you.

(05:05):
But I've had bigger deer around here than I've had
out there, really, and I feel like the further north
you go, the bigger they get. Because I'm county and
Pawnee County is different. You got the river, right, and
there's some big deer on the river. There's probably hogs
in county too. I shot a giant hog last year,
nasty fucker, I bet five hundred pound boar and was

(05:28):
nowhere near a river. You can't eat boar, can you?
You can eat the sALS? You can you can try
to eat the boar. I mean the keyword try. I
mean I've heard of people trying to grind them up
and feed them to their dogs, and dogs won't even
touch them. But we couldn't get them out anyways. Literally
five hundred pounds. Yeah, you won't get We need a detractor.

(05:49):
Was that field dressed or it just as that was? So?
I grew up on a pig farm, okay. My dad
was a swinehertsman at OSHU for thirty years oh wow,
before being the farm arch coordinator for thirteen okay. And
so I grew up around o S you that, okay,
that probably explains why I always considered you to be
attached to OSU. Like Joe as well. I thought it

(06:11):
was just with the athlete side of things. That was
a that was animal science and livestock judge. Okay. So
he judged livestock in his college stint and then he
actually two times he coached the livestock judging team ten
years apart as an interim coach. He didn't want to
just be the coach, but they had somebody leave and

(06:32):
he's just stepped in and two times he's back in
one hundred they won. They won two for two livestock
judging competition in college out of all the other schools,
the two times he coached ten years apart, which OSU
livestock judging is pretty solid. It is, I think recently.
I just saw an article about OSU livestock judging. So yeah,

(06:55):
and it's I mean, everybody, you were in the ag
thing too during high school. And I grew up, and
I grew up showing some hogs and uh, you know,
there's the big Louisville Show, right, there's a giant giant
show in Louisville, and there was a judging contest. I
think I was ten twelve, Louisville, Kentucky. Okay, I was

(07:18):
like ten or twelve. We were there a show pig
and Dad's like, why don't you just enter? I said, okay,
and I wouldn't. My attention was on hunting and wrestling.
I just showed pigs because Dad liked to do it,
and I liked. I liked the pigs and I liked showing,
but I didn't. You know, it wouldn't. Were you like
to have a blonde chick where she's like, oh no,
you know who I'm talking about, the TikTok famous the

(07:40):
whole story with that whole thing. Like, so, is there
a way to show pigs? I assume because she does
something instead of changes so much. So like back when
I did, it was completely different. You did want to
make You wanted to have constant eyes on the judge. Okay,
And you know that's why I was weird. I knew
I'd never want to show because my favorite pig was
a land race. The reason why I liked the land race.

(08:03):
Land race is like a chester as the pot flopped
over ears, okay, but their ears are bigger. You're talking
about breed of pig okay, and uh, you never want
to show with one. You wouldn't a class, but uh,
you never want to show with one. It's usually your
camp or spot or across okay, not a land I'm
not familiar with the whole names of the I just
like I know jerseys and you know cattle and everything.

(08:25):
But like I didn't, I would I want a cattle
kid I was. I was a pig kid. See that
throws me off even more because I thought you were
with os U athletics and like raised within the cattle.
So everything I thought about you is wrong. So you
weren't a douchebag in high school? Were you? Fuck? I
was wrong again. It's just it's just the people. I guess, Like,

(08:49):
you know how you associate yourself with certain people. And
I'm not saying the people you hung out with were
like douchebags are everybody. It was a social butter. Every
time I looked around. You were all with the os
U guys too, So I'm like, okay, this guy is
with the os you guys. But my the people I
hung out with the most in high school, we're Colin Whitman, Okay,

(09:10):
Cody Sebrant, I know Cody, Colin Whitman, Cody Sebrant, Spencer
gate On, gate On. You know, those were kind of
my guys I always hung out with and outside of class,
that was who I hung out with a lot. And
he still hang out with gate On or anything like that.
Oh yeah, he called me earlier today. He said, hey,
I got two stand locations. What are your thoughts here?
And I was like, well, it's gonna be an east

(09:31):
southeast shifting wind. He might get it out of the
south some He said, well, you might have just answered
my question. I was like, Okay, there you go. That's awesome.
See before we started the podcast, I asked you if
you made content when you hunted too, you and Spencer
could make a YouTube channel. Well, Spencer, he does some

(09:51):
filming for a group. He does, does he does. I
don't know how much filming he does. I always thought
I'd get into get into YouTube and filming, and my
biggest into YouTube and filming. My biggest crooks has always
been I don't I didn't ever want. I never had
time to edit because in college dress and I had
filmed some like I have a booner. My biggest buck
I've ever killed was one hundred and seventy five inch

(10:13):
ten and I filmed the whole hunt. No shit, had
the whole thing on film. You have a little arm
and everything for the truck. Okay, and that was back
with the muddy arms. Yeah, I know, the uncomfortable things
and then muddy still comes out with them. But there's
light weight now, no, not much. Well they might have
came out with a smaller one I think they're kind
of like. But I went from Muddy to Fourth Arrow.

(10:34):
Fourth Arrow they had some good stuff. And then I
finally I talked to my mother in law, was like, hey,
what do you want for Christmas? I was like, Man,
if there's one thing I could get, it'd be the
lone Wolf pocket arm. And I'm talking. This thing is
that big, it links it out that long, but it
it is the lightest thing goes right in my pack.
I don't pack, you know, because most of them are

(10:55):
like two or three pieces. Yeah, this is one piece
and it's solid, does a good job. Most of them
are kind of like this too, like where they will
yeah yeah. And that one's a three a three arm.
You know, it's three seven pieces, but it all folds
up and it I mean, when it's fully folded up,
it's like that big. That's awesome, you know. I love that.
FA's good. That's I'm jealous. I've been looking at stuff

(11:18):
like that for hunting too, because I have a YouTube
channel that I'm trying to get lifted off called Northern
Oklahoma Wild. It's where we do wm A. Technical difficulties
all across the board. My left headphone isn't working at
least yours are working right. You're good? Okay, both lights
went out? Got that fixed? What else can go wrong? Guys?

(11:44):
I don't know. God, this is terrible, not professional at all. Oh,
I still have players on the table. I did not clean.
I mean I just got home, like I said, So
it happens. Things happen, guys, No, they don't. They it's bad.

(12:04):
Let me show you. So this is just one guy
I follow, and I think you and Spencer would make
great content, like I already mentioned obviously, but even without Spencer,
I think you are such an interesting person you could
do your own content as well. I know that editing

(12:26):
is a pain in the ass. Yeah, that's always been
my crooks. Cause I think, like I said, I can
offer you my help if you need it. I have
this laptop. You send me the files and stuff. I
can chop things up and send you what I think
is good and then you can adjust them the way
you want it or whatnot. But I tried to talk
my wife. My wife used to do photography and film

(12:48):
some weddings, and I tried, and she could edit and stuff,
and I tried to talk her into doing it so
many times. My fiance is trying to talk me into
making her my producer. She's like, just let me do
it so like you're not alone and you know, and
then we can edit together. I'm like, you just want
spend all the time you have with me. She's like,
is that a bad thing. I'm like, no, it's not, no,
not at all. I'm not trap exactly. It's not this

(13:11):
guy dear meet for dinner. Uh he uh man. He's
been doing it for years and he has also, I
mean he used to be a television hunter host as well,
and it's just great content. He has I think one
camera guy with him and that guy does all the editing.

(13:33):
I'm sure he does the editing as well here and there.
But like I I I'm just saying, man, I'm not
trying to push you into anything. I know. Like I mean,
I've been filming anyways. It just matter you send me content.
I'll edit it and make it what you want. I
think I have. I'll give you my email after this. Yeah,
I think I have its counting. I got Choco tops

(13:54):
what I call that deer my booner got him on
film two deer with a traditional bo on film all
re curve and I have a thirty three yard kill
with a long bow, Jesus. And then would you hunt
with the long bowl out of like a stand? Really fine?
I shot a thirty pound bobcat out of Geary with

(14:15):
that long bow out of a tree stand, and I
tried to kill so many with my bow I've killed.
I do predator hunting too, and I've killed a couple
of predator hunting, but I'd shot at like four with
my bow over the years growing up. And a lot
of the traps behind you are more predator. Yeah, the
bigger ones are beaver, but I like going Beaver's just easy. Yeah,

(14:35):
they're dumb. Yeah, I've never never trapped much. Coons, you know,
just helped the turkey population. Yeah, coons, I mean they're
pelt there. So I like I do leather work, and
this year I'm gonna go hard on the first so
I can make my own leather and not have to
keep buying a shit ton of leather. Leather is expensive.

(14:58):
And what I've learned is coon is so just greasy
and just fatty that just one ancergate on in high
school would trap so much he'd send it, he'd sell
it all, and he'd I remember wondering. He's like, I
got like five hundred dollars because he sold all that
he had. I was like that, gum, we're missing the
mark here. But at the same time, it just isn't

(15:22):
worth the worst. And I know, I like a lot
of trappers now just sell the whole carcass with fur.
And I mean me, I'm like, if I'm gonna trap,
I might as well just keep the furs until they
start doing something. And because I do leather work, I
can make my own mits. I can do something and

(15:43):
sell them and whatnot. So that's the plan for now,
at least I'm going that direction. At least. I don't
know how it will go, but we shall see. Go
back to this. Oh no, I wanted to show you
that the written video. I can show you that hunting
video as well, but I was gonna show you the

(16:05):
Shane Giller. Yeah, the Shane Gill is what we were
talking about before with the military. Uh. I'll show you
a little clip of it because I don't know how
much we can show, like copyright stuff. Oh, I can't

(16:26):
skip this. Okay, the journey begins, folks. What up, happy people.
I'm Robert Arrington. This is dear me for dinner, and
we are on our way. So he's just filming himself.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's in Illinois.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
It's self filming. It's not hard to do, driving your truck,
just on his way to the airport, talking about talking
to someone in the truck or whatnot. Let's see how
far we can get here, because they do cooks too,
Like there, they'll do the whole cooking and everything. Got

(17:08):
me a pizza and a coffee. It looks like you
do some duck hunting too. That was either duck or these.
I can have a wild giant bull out walk by
cutting that one I hit a limb on look like that.

(17:30):
Really it's a giant god. I want to go duck
hunting so bad. It's about to get probably pretty good
now that we get this cold friend starting to come in.
That's kind of what I was thinking, Like this weekend
coming up, I think I'm gonna try to take the
kiddos out. Where's the deer? Did they ever get one?

(17:55):
It must have been that that right in there is that.
I can't see where the ending is or at least
a shot looks like now, I don't know if you
can get the shot anymore. You can't. Does YouTube still
do the kill shots because you can't do the catch
and clean anymore with fish? Huh uh? I'm sure they

(18:17):
still do the kill shots because that's what everybody watches.
God's the whole reason you watch. Now. They probably want
you to clean it up and not have blood everywhere
whenever you walk up to it. What's he got there? Compound? Yep?
I couldn't tell what kind of almost look like an

(18:39):
elite or prime m hm. Might be a botech. Nice
turkeys too, damn that was property is nice as that

(19:00):
was my first first job out of college was a
turkey hunting good really, That's why I thought you were
a guide. That was my first job out of college.
That's awesome. Okay, that's not didn't have any success. What
happened here? This is the duck hunt might have just

(19:23):
been you know, hey, we did some deer hunting snow
going on. That's practicing, and so the boys were like, hey,
let's go duck hunting. I was like, yeah, I guess
they didn't get one at least. I mean that's the
other thing, like if you make a trip and have
two things, you kind of like guarantee yourself on at
least one of them. Yeah, I feel like birds definitely

(19:48):
do more kill it. Okay, so we were doing we
were Kate and I were talking about the military and

(20:12):
pup play. Not for each other, no, well we were
just discussing how like we don't get it. Yeah, and
I wanted to show.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
On Twitter and I saw a picture of this guy
and he was he was retiring from the military, and
when he retired, he posted a picture himself full military uniform,
all of his medals, but he was wearing a furry mask,
like a dog mask, and he posted he said, now
that I'm retiring from the military, I can come out
and say I've been into pup play this entire time.

(20:46):
Hey tweeted he said the officer bow wow out. I
just said, like hashtag service.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Dog God what it was rough.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
For real, that was an accident, but he tweeted it.
So of course Russia and China's Twitter they got ahold
of it. They started talking shit, you know, they were like,
look at our military. It was a bunch like jacked
skinhead dudes. They look at America's military, who was like
transgender people. The dog general. Yeah, I was on Twitter

(21:18):
and I saw a picture of this guy, and he
was on Twitter and I.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Saw a picture. So that carries into the next.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Retiring from the military. And when he retired, he posted
a picture of himself full military uniform, all of his medals,
but he was wearing a the gay or the army
the scarier forever.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's where he was leading into the whole things.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Think of any army throughout history, imagine them gay gay Nazis.
Just when he thought those guys couldn't look at any
sharper gay vikings. Gay vikings. Dude, You're just some villager

(22:00):
looking out on the shoreline, see a bunch of Viking
long ships coming. You're like, oh no, it's the Vikings.
They're gonna rape our wives and daughters. Then they pull
up their fucking rainbow flag on their boat. That's worse.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm just saying, maybe our military is onto something.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
There's that UFC fighter. He's from Arkansas and he was
talking to some guy on the podcast and the guy
goes was talking about like it was like LGBTQ, and
he's like war or something, and he goes, hell, they
had to have your back. And now on that one
stuck with me because I was like, I know who

(22:53):
you're talking about. I can't always wears the overalls with
no T shirt. Oh God, like my stature. He's not
a big guy. It's gonna be some backyard fights. Is

(23:16):
it bow Nickel? No, it ain't Bo Nichols big, It's
not John Jones. No, it's uh. Do you see what
John Jones did last night? Last night? No on Steepe?

(23:37):
Mm hmm. See if we can get a little Oh,
this is the finisher. Do you know what's in your
cheap protein? No? I don't care what's in my cheap protein.
I do. But do you think his next fid'll be aspinall?
A good watch?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Brandy Gibson and Greg Jackson feel like a lot of
John Jones's weaponry could be opening.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
He around three. Jones's jaff looks really good. So this
was last night steep with the right hand, that's where
coach Morton. Coach wanted him to stay forward. Santara left

(24:24):
leg soon, Johnson SIPs, I love hearing Joe commentate. Oh yeah,
and Steepe looks slower than he used to look. Oh
night supper cut by mute Jeff John's acknowledge that in
the right hand I love how everyone's yelling. There's Elon

(24:50):
and Don this is what Joe keeping. Yeah, right there,
there's John can't miss the red tie, step a swing,
very few kicks. It's when steep A blitzes him that
Jones has to go into full out retreat his life
like he does from Jones. And now that's right, Steepe

(25:22):
is slower. How old is steep A hold on? He
hit him, hit him clean right here, right straight right.

(25:46):
I guess it's not like boxing where you keep your hands.
I mean that's the thing, you know. Boxing. It's like,
oh me to getting hitting the ribs or the face,
and it's a different game. Did you ever think about
doing this? Looks as of Daniel? Daniel is also a
graduate of He was my kid's club coach growing up. Really,

(26:11):
I think I wrestled for like a year and he
might have been my coach as well. Yeah, it was.
He was here for a while and then he left.
It was when Kile Butler wrestled the Helot kill Butler.
He's my cousin, is he really? That makes sense? Okay?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Step just look solose the distance.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
God, I know, guys, I don't watch much USC on here,
but you're gonna watch it's all these kicks, the knees.
You don't watch much. I do. It just depends on
if I'm you watch the Tyson Paul fight s bullshit,

(26:53):
I don't listen. I don't know if it was just
the age or if it really was scripted. You heard
about that too. I heard about it too. I think
it's both. I'm disappointed it was scripted. I want to
Here's the thing, if Jake pausit real quick, if Jake

(27:13):
had kdoed him and knocked him out, yes, it would
have looked bad for Jake. But at least at the
same time, our idol, someone we grew up with. We
finally see that he's done, you know what I mean, Like,
you knew he was done. But but the thing is
that the first round I knew he was fucking done, dude,

(27:33):
Like he got some quick ends. But it just wasn't
tightly different though the first round, though, I would admit that, yes,
he looked in the first end of that end of
the first round, you knew well. I think he cracked him.
I think he cracked him one time, real good. He
went don get paid. Yeah, so he shut himself down
because He's always had that nervous tick of chewing his glove,

(27:56):
but he was doing it like he was trying to
restrain himself. That's true. I didn't know this that, and
you're telling me that he's he's gonna put his hands
up like this and he cracked four times on a jab.
He's not iron Mike. No, it doesn't make It's gotta
be scripted. But I mean I wanted I wanted someone
to kot someone. That's really what I I just want

(28:19):
to see him. At the same time, I wanted Netflix
to fucking work. We found we were able to get
it pretty well work. He just had to exit out
and back in. That's why I kept on. It sucked.
But what gets me though, is like you gotta give
it to give it to jack Man. He knows how
to promote. He's I mean, I wish I had half

(28:39):
the money here. I'm still not a fan of his,
but like like Lebron, I hate Lebron, but I mean
I'll give it. I want to see him fight. He's
fought one actual active boxer that's around his age and
he got beat. Do you know who I want to
see him fight? Yeah, Kabeb, that'll never happen, you don't think.
So he's calling out all these guys, I don't would

(29:00):
he just call out He called out McGregor. That's right, Connor.
It's like it's like, I mean, and he said no
weight class will fight in a ring. It's like, dude,
he will kill you in a ring. McGregor. Yeah, in
in the octagon. UFC rules. I don't care about your size,
Okay rules. McGregor might does have the upper hand, but
McGregor's age well not even the age though, MacGregor, because

(29:23):
I mean, you got you gotta say. Jake can fight
a little bit, but he's twenty pounds and McGregor's probably
what one eight one ninety I mean not when he's
up bulked up, but when he's in fighting shape, he's
probably won eighty one ninety before he starts his cut. Probably,

(29:45):
I mean any five eight, five nine we're about to
find out might be five ten, five, nine hundred and seventy. Yeah,
featherweight Walter wait or Welter? Is it Walter or Welter?
He wouldn't know one seventy. Whenever he was in in
uh that movie UH with Roadhouse, he was every bit

(30:05):
of one eighty one on You know, hell, I walk
around at once seventy five, which I'm a different body
shape than him. But is he Islam still fighting? Islam's
still fighting? Is Yeah? Kabib's done because his dad was
his trainer, right and he be Kabebe's done, which he
went out on top. You can't twin in and oh right? Yeah,

(30:28):
dude's animal, John Jones, Michael Chandler. Why is Michael didn't
dust didn't Dustin Pourier just just hang it up? No?
Please tell me he didn't. I thought I thought his
last fight I watched, he was done after that. I
hope not. He might he might have just been thinking

(30:50):
about it, But I thought I saw that that was
gonna be his last fight u f C three oh nine.
I think that's the one. I think that's the one
I watched. Won't set a potential rematch with Dustin and
he do well. Dustin still has to settle with McGregor, right,

(31:12):
I don't know if he will been wall since we've
seen McGregor in the cage. You think he's gonna ever return?
I don't know. Let's finish this. Things just don't darf
like they used to. Yeah, and you wonder if tonight
Steve Vey's learning that being away all this time is
being forty two. Sometimes things just don't work. Yeah, he's done,

(31:36):
but again it's still trying to fight. Oh, this is
where the kicking comes in. This is what I'm talking
about right here.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
And if he's not getting out of the way of that,
John's just gonna.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Keep shutting away at him from the outside. Again. It's
just right here, right, He's standing at a.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Range that Jones is just the best in the world
at this kicking rage.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
How old are their thirties? Who these guys? They're in
their thirties, aren't they. I think I think Steve a
might be close to forty there yet, but he's close.
But it's the speed difference.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's very evident.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Man. The way Joe talks on his podcast, he makes
these guys sound like sometimes young, and then you watch
them and I mean Joe and he's fifty five, sixty
fifty eight, fifty eight I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he just
turned fifty eight recently. They're young, they're young man to him.
True here this is it? Oh yeah, spinning back gig

(32:39):
baby right there? Oh that was a perfect that's it. Perfectly.
It's done too. Listen to Joe Rfk's there, I didn't
know that.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Spin trump dance.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The greatest next Martial watch Man at that time, adding
to his appreciable legacy by knocking out the most decorated
heavyweight champion to ever do it, Steep by a chicken round.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
It was a great performance from start to finish, just
strategic with no answers, spinning back kick right right to
the body, right to deliver that right hand that'll shut
you down to that hurts my kick. That just hurts

(33:41):
watching like that that stuff they say, like and when
you get hit there, like you think you can just
body it and take it, but your body just shuts down. Nasty,
unbelievable performance, cool against what we thought was.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Test.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
You don't know why keep what but Jesus, especially in
this weight class. Yeah, I mean expected it to be
tough for heavyweight. Yeah, I'm not getta lie. The undercards
for the Jake and Tyson fight were good. They that
that gal the girls, Yeah, this is what I wanted
to talk to you or wanted to share. A girl

(34:27):
fight was called should have been done well, not even
that that Taylor girl that that ended up winning the
fight by decision. She should not have wont no, because
she she she headbutted four times. Well, she leans forward,
which is fine. I mean she leads with her head,
but that's not even where I'm saying it. Like the
percentage of hits, percentage of she didn't land as many

(34:49):
as didn't land as many, The percentage of shots landed
as thrown was not as many. The amount of punches
thrown was more like, if you just look at it
from that standpoint, there's no a way that she should
have won much less with the point deduction on a
head butt. Oh no, man, I mean you got it.
I mean it was a war. That was I think
that was the best fight of the night, the whole

(35:12):
eye thing and everything. Jesus Christ. I was like, they're
getting called this, they're getting I was watching that. I
was like, they're getting and she kept on saying, no,
fuck it, let's go. It was like, that's a fucking
woman there. God, I went fuck with her. Jesus Christ. Huh, oh,
I better hurt Monday morning, Saturday Saturday morning. I was

(35:35):
gonna say during the fight it would be just like
a like a burn because I've gashed my eyes and
wrestling and wrestled through and stuff and it kind of burns,
but you don't really notice it in a moment. It's
that next next day or too. Which with hers, that
thing was massive. You know once it got stitched up,
that things swelled shut. God, without a doubt. Oh, I

(36:02):
got that image. Her eye was just at one point
I flopped a little bit like it was. Yeah, and
it was in a place. It wasn't like I had
a big gash right here from being dumb back in
high school. But hers was right on that scene, yeah,
where you know it was affecting. Yeah, she just thought
through it. Lots and lots of blood. But I mean,

(36:25):
what I've heard is boxing is a lot more blood like.
So what I've heard is when you see blood in UFC,
it's more of a nose kind of thing, Like they
get you in the nose. You'll get some cuts if
somebody's throwing elbows. But with boxing, it's more cuts on
your face. You're gonna get more, you know, it's more brutality,
It's what I hear. Also, you use different weighted gloves

(36:49):
for classes UFC, do they also? I think they're like
four ounces the us. They're they're just you know, they're
that much patting. It's just for the knuckles, basically, I
think do they have different weight classes for those like? No, okay,
I know boxing is different than they're pretty much all
the same. I mean they got sizes. I'm sure you

(37:09):
know you take brock Lesnar's hands and you put those
same gloves on on Mighty Mouse. Yeah it ain't. It
looked like boxing gloves. Yeah, but come on, Mighty Mouse.
The Mighty Mouse was a man amongst children. Oh yeah,
he was so technical. God damn it. Some of the greats.
I mean, John Jones is now up there. Oh yeah.

(37:33):
Would you say Kobeba is the greatest of UFC going undefeated? Well,
it wasn't even that. It was that he was so dominant.
And it's true, big name that's true beat big names,
and he was dominant about it. And it was his style, man,
like you know, it wasn't flashy. Wasn't like he's gonna
go out there and roundhouse kick you or go out
there doing do it you know, spinning backfist. Yeah, he

(37:55):
was gonna go out there, take you down, take care
of business, and and talk to you while he beat
the hell out of you. How do you like that?
How do you like that? Let's talk now, let's talk,
let's talk now, and and and he had you tied
up where you couldn't do nothing about it. But but
look at him and get hit. That was wild. I
forgot about the McGregor. Let's talk now, he would he

(38:18):
would take you down. He had a hell of a
blast double. I lost money on that one. I was dumb.
It was money. I'm not, I'm not. It was when
I first got into like the UFC and I say
everything was just McGregor McGregor that I was like, what,
I got money on McGregor at it from this even
look like gets him on the ground, could be he's
gonna he's gonna control, if he's gonna win. If McGregor

(38:41):
can keep him off and keep it a stand up,
that's his that's his ball game. And uh but and
I didn't think he'd stop him when I saw McGregor. Actually,
you know, he's he's he's awesome. But when I watched
him working on his wrestling a lot, it's like, dude,
the only way you're stopping Kobeb with wrestling defense is

(39:04):
if you've wrestled your whole life right, Like you're not
gonna get in one year enough to be able to
stop him. Kabib's training is completely different than anyone else's training.
Like he doesn't have a nice weight room. It's all
where's he from, Tazaka, Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan. It's all just mountains,
Like I remember watching the Nelk boys visit him, and

(39:27):
I mean he has a gym, don't get me wrong,
but it's nothing like the United States. It's old Soviet
workout equipment. Also it workout equipment. But I mean, I
think a lot of those guys is it's sambo. It's
it's a certain deal that they started with. It has
a lot of wrestling mixed with it, and also uh
jiu jitsu. It's like a it's like it's like a

(39:47):
mix of the two. It's almost like like our jiu
jitsu no gi that we do here low you know,
in the States. It's very similar. But I think they
can even I think it's even broader. I think it
even has a little like you think you can have.
There's there's there's something more broad to it than that.
It's not just jiu jitsu. I feel like it's a
little military too, and like the military learns that shit too.

(40:08):
And he was like how he would take guys down
and just tie up one arm. We didn't beat you
with the other arm. We were blessed to witness him. Oh,
he was fundable, like people talk about all the you know,
foreman and and and I was biased toward him a
little bit because he was boys with Daniel Cormier, who

(40:29):
I've known my whole life, pretty much since I got
in wrestling when I was like five. He, I mean Dan.
My first wrestling coaches were Daniel Cormier, Jamel Kelly, and
then you remember Jay Stebrishchmith. Yeah, his dad Marty debris Smith.
He was part of that kid's class. She's is still
in town too, isn't he. Yep, he's a uh was

(40:51):
he a class? Yes, he was thirteen. He might have
been a senior when I was a freshman. He might
have been twelve. I think he was thirteen. I think
he's thirteen or twelve. He's twelve or thirteen because I
think he was wrestling too, wasn't he? Yeah, because I
know he was on the team when I was a freshman,
But I can't actually then I think he I think

(41:12):
that was his senior year. I think he was senior
year because I remember then he just come out of
nowhere like at one point, because he was good. Who
am I thinking of? That was a great wrestler that
just came out of nowhere for still Water and then
went and wrestled for os U. He was short, kind
of had a chin strap in high school. Short, sure,

(41:37):
I mean all of you guys were short. No, I
was throwing me. We had we had Tristan Moran, we
had me, we had Joe, we had Chandler Rogers. It
might be Chandler. He wasn't really, I mean he was
five five nine, maybe not then he was. He was
one hundred and sixty five pounds. So if he went

(41:58):
a little guy, No, it was a little guy, he
was sure, but he could beat my ass for sure.
Jacob Fonts he ended up at o SU for a
year or two. But he didn't have he didn't have
ficial hair. Can uh. I want to say it was Jayce,
but it might have not been jas. It was a
Garrett something I don't think. So, Okay, maybe we had

(42:21):
we had, we had me, Tristan Moran, Joe Smith, uh,
Chandler Rogers, We and then Jacob fon As. We had
five guys from our high school team end up at
O Sue for Well, it's not you and Joe obviously
are Jays, so it's one of those other guys. I
don't know, I'd have to put pictures to faces or whatnot.

(42:42):
I have a high school year buck, but I might
just go back and look into now. But man, we've
talked about wrestling, talked about hunting. Yep, heck yesterday yesterday,
you're wearing a Duck Unlimited hat. Be I want to
start doing some Ducks Unlimited auctions for the Cushing chapter.

(43:04):
A couple buddies that, what's a what does that consist of? Like,
what do you mean by duck duck? Like, so's I'll
be their auctioneer for Ducks Unlimited. Yeah, for for the
Cushing chapter. Yeah, So walk me through what they'll have items,
and they'll give me, hey, this is what this really
should go for, and then I'll you know, say it's

(43:25):
supposed to go for five hundred dollars. I'll probably started
off at like fifty, got you, and I'll just you know,
start rattling and Okay, it's an actual okay when I'm
thinking because you said real estate as well. Yeah, so
so those are releases. Uh Limited has a few water

(43:46):
sanctuary or not sanctuaries, but hunting areas kind of yeah,
but I don't think they do much with that, Like
what they'll probably auction off for like sets of Cameo
or trip or Gotcha or gun. You know, Ducks and
Limited waiters. There's no telling what they'd auction off. But
Ducks Unlimited the same guys as Duck's commander. No, No,
What's unlimited is like, uh, your National Wild Turkey Federation. Oh,

(44:11):
I was today eight years old when I learned that.
I didn't know that. I thought they were the same people.
And now the Ducks Unlimited is like I think they
try to build money and then it goes back towards
to the wildlife, to the sanctuaries for Duck, not even sanctuaries,
but like the WMA's and stuff. I know Drummond has
a waterfowl area for that was made up by Duck Unlimited.

(44:36):
And then you have like Carl Blackwell out here they
sell uh they sell dug lines each year. Really yeah,
and I think they're I don't know how many there
are I think, don't homie to it. I think there's eighteen.
I think there was twenty between twenty eighteen or twenty
something like that. Yeah, but you know, like them, I
hear them things go high. It's an auction too, isn't
it like a raffle raffle. I think it's an auction, auction,

(44:58):
one of the two, and they go high. It has
to be auction, because a raffle would be like, well,
I know when I was in high school there were
twelve blinds out at like Carl Blackwell, and it was
a raffle and it was two hundred dollars to enter
the raffle, kind of like black Bear, which I mean,
we can now it's an auction now really, okay, there's

(45:18):
not a raffle for black Bear anymore. Here. We just
can buy a black Bear license, can't we? Or is
there still a raffle? Yeah, black Bear, you can be
down it's a quota, I believe. Okay, So like down
a broken Bow area for instance, I think that's the
land of the area. You can actually haunt them really
and it's a quota. So like if I went down
there and the quota is still open. I could kill one,

(45:39):
but I don't know if I'd want to go bear hunting.
I just feel like to leave them. Oh my my life,
like one hunt, you know, like I'm want to hunt elk.
I want to go on some cool hunts big sheep,
big horn sheep up in the mountains and stuff like that.
But like a moose care but those are always on
the list. Moose is pretty high up there. But a
Kodiak Grizzly with a bow is my dream. That'd be interesting.

(46:02):
I don't think I'll ever do it because it's I mean,
it's like thirty thousand dollars that, but also I mean,
just do it the right way because like I'd have
to do it with a bow. Well, I'm a bow guy.
I just have to deal with a bow. I can't
remember if it was Alaska under the first Trump administration.
I mean Trump didn't know what he was doing his
first administration because he had idiots, but they passed. I

(46:25):
think it was for like Wyoming, Montana, and Alaska kind
of the real states where they were having predator problems,
so they would they allowed hunters even from out of
state to go into dents, yeah, and just slaughter the
grizzly bears the wolves. I'm not sure if that's you know,

(46:48):
like Montana, for instance, you're not allowed to kill a
grizzly unless it's proven self defense. Like I say, yeah, yeah, yeah,
say I'm up to say. I mean, where we hunted
almost of Montana is that you fucking wilder life. And
I went to Montana hunt Elk this year. Where we
were at was not not grizzly bear country, but say

(47:08):
we were in the western half the state, big grizzly
bear country. And I was told, Hey, if you have
to self defend yourself and kill a grizzly, you're gonna
have less questions if you shot somebody then you did that.
Oh yeah, and crazy Corol just released wolves a few
years ago. The dumbest that's the dumbest fucking thing. And

(47:29):
you can't kill them in Colorado, even for self defense.
And I think there's still a lot of people probably
killing them, like oh fuck, I hope they are. Just
don't get got just well. My thing is also, I mean,
it's sad, we imagine the fine. It's it's sad that
we have to kill predators that used to be there.
But we took care of it to the point where

(47:51):
we're like, this is how things have to be. There's
plenty of these fucks in fucking Canada, you know. And
also is that you know there's a lot of livestock. Yeah,
well what's easier to kill a cow and a calf
or a deer or a mule deer or an elk

(48:12):
that's wild, Like, it's gonna be the cow calf. That's
that's fast food, that's slow. He's McDonald's. And then you
hear about places where then they get a big herd
of wolves. Yep, and they end up just they're not
even eating, they're just killing for the sport of it. Well,
there was I don't know how often you listen to

(48:32):
Joe Rogan, but he had a guy on that does
mountain lions, and the guy discussed that this mountain lion
was killing livestock. Uh, and at first they thought he
was doing it for fun. Well, come to find out
there was a pack of wolves tracking this mountain lion
at the same time. But no, the mountain lion was

(48:56):
out smart and the packs of wolves because what it
was doing was it was killing two at time, leaving
one dragging the other away so it could in a
tree for it to eat, so the pack could have
something and lead it alone. Seeing that that's crazy, Like
these they're smart animals. Oh they're not. They're not dumb.

(49:16):
You ever seen a have My Rogan moment? You ever
seen a pack of wolves take down an elk? Just
from the asshole first? Just you really? You haven't seen
a elk taken down by a pack of wolves. You
need to watch Joe Rogan more. Dude, He'll show you everything.
It's well, I usually listen to him when I'm driving around. Yeah,

(49:38):
I get it. Yesterday yesterday, I mean, you know, whenever
I pulled up, you asked me if I if I
saw a shot or saw a shot anything. It's like, no, man,
I saw some does. But yesterday my buddy, one of
my best friends, he's from a from Tulsa area. His
name is Garrett Elias. Heuh, we had a buck where
I killed my pig and my deer last year. He
showed up this week and he's a good one. And

(50:01):
you know he'd have been I think he'd been my
number three. He wouldn't have been my biggest, but he'd
been my number three. And uh, you know, for my buddy,
it was gonna be the biggest, and I was giving
him heck because he wasn't gonna come up yesterday morning.
Saturday morning, he wasn't gonna come. And I said, hey, buddy,
either you're in that tree and you kill him, or
I am in that tree and I'm gonna kill him.

(50:23):
And and he's like, you're a bully. I was like, no,
I just I'm telling you that deer's gonna die Saturday morning.
And you know, we hadn't had picture him since Thursday,
but I just my gut was telling me that Deer's
gonna come in. And uh, He's like, oh, I'm coming, okay. Uh.
I was like, you know what, I haven't had much
on my cameras. I'm gonna givehim my place of break.
I'm just gonna go sit with you. So I got

(50:44):
to go sit with him. And it was a twenty
minute huh buck walked right in, shout him right at
legal and uh deer went one hundred yards and it's
his best bow buck, best best gun buck and ended
up his mainframe ten with four additionals went one sixty
six and uh damn man, dude, it was it was.
It was one of those one of those experiences where

(51:07):
I got to watch him do it. I was range fine,
and I have it on film, but it was just
right at that low light where you could just see
the silhouette see people like Peta and people like ask like,
how do you take a life of an animal? Like, well,
you ever watched Nature is Metal? You have or Instagram? Yeah, yeah,
just go check out Nature is Metal and it will
definitely show you a pack of wolves eating an elk

(51:28):
from asking about a lot of people, a lot of
people that don't understand about deer hunt, and the elk
is still alive. By the way, they don't kill anything
like our area. For instance, if we don't deer hunt,
oh god, the amount of carres, car rex traffic accidents,
the amount of detriment it would be to the population.
As far as a healthy herd. What the grass? Grass? Grass?

(51:50):
Wouldn't we already have cattle, but it would be I
mean if we let the population just go, but the
grass would be very few. And yeah, they say, well mate,
you're you're hurting him. Well, if you think about it
this way, most hunters with an ethical shot, a deer
doesn't even know what happened, dead within seconds, minutes the
most on a good ethical shot like my buddy's buck yesterday,

(52:14):
for instance, that deer died in maybe five seconds, yep,
and he had no idea what happened. The adrenaline is
what was taking him one hundred yards or so. Let's
take that same deer, say nobody's hunting him. Five years
goes by. Well, now he has no teeth. Now he's
getting pushed around by the little bucks. Now he's he
can't eat, he can't drink, he is just deteriorating away,

(52:39):
you know, and it's a slow, agonizing death. There's no predators.
It was like, well, let's do the wolves. Well, guess
what happens. Then too many wolves. You have too many
wolves because there's nothing killing them, and then they start
detrimenting not only the deer population, but cattle, farmers, livestock,
were you know, everywhere, and it's just it's you know.

(53:00):
Then you open it up to hunters, and then you
extinct the wolf population and then the deer come back.
In the circle of life nineteen forties, Oklahoma, would you know,
like if there did have wolves, if you saw a
deer in nineteen oh, you're talking. It made the newspaper
but now through the work of conservationists. And that's when
I say that, I mean hunters. Now we have a

(53:22):
healthy like Oklahoma's high up on the list on places
to go. Yeah, and that's that's because of hunters. Nebraska
is still pretty far up there though you were gone
hunting in Nebraska, Nebraska. I went hunting in Sorry for
cutting you off. I went hunting up in Minnesota and
we got like a little forty South Dakota, not this

(53:42):
this year, but the year before this last year, and
went on a pheasant hunt. Oh I'm jealous. It was
so awesome and it really like stuck it out because
the week prior I went hunting and Hugoton, Kansas and
that was not very good. No, like their numbers are
way down, oh yeah, and so like. And then we

(54:03):
didn't have dogs, which I mean South Dakota we didn't
have dogs either, but uh, we were in Hugaton and
we would get we had like fifteen sixteen guys. We'd
line up and we'd walk and uh one ideal weather
and then of course one of the days I'm gone,
the big buckoves chasing daylights like a son of a gun.
First time daylight and all year and uh, you know,

(54:24):
I'm like, hey, we're not really having a good peas.
I'm gonna get back while the getting's good. So I
hauled back, and of course seeing daylight, I was like, hey,
son of a gun. And then but anyways, we got
to go to South Dakota, and South Dakota was I,
you know, after the Hugoton adventure of I saw five
the whole time, I shot my gun twice till we

(54:45):
get to South Dakota and we're driving to where we're
gonna go hunt, and we're passing rooster, rooster, rooster in
the ditch. Yeah. See, so my uncle told me when
he was probably he's in his fifties, sixties, and he's
probably in his seventies actually, come think of it, when
he was our age, he talked about how South Dakota
when probably laws weren't really that big when whatnot? He

(55:08):
said him, and like, I don't know, three truckloads of
guys would drive from Minnesota over into South Dakota and
they'd have a limit in less than five minutes because
back then, I guess the bird population was so big
and they were used to hunters coming that you could
literally drive your truck over them and just and literally

(55:29):
my uncle's like, you could back, you know, back in
the sixties seventies, you could go up to the roosters,
grab them by the neck, wring them, not have a
shot in them, and you'd be limited within minutes. And
it was shocking to me because those guys are like, yeah,
our numbers are down, and I'm watching bullshit. I'm watching me.
I'm watching like fifty roosters pile out of this corn patch.

(55:51):
I'm like, that's down. Hell, what are you talking about?
And I also got the mule deer hout while I
was there. Home doesn't have pheasant, even though it on
our half. Asant we got fast in, but not like Kansas.
I guess tonk Water has got a pretty good pop,
pretty good population. I might go check out there some
guys that go on that old lap and well flat smack.

(56:14):
We might have to smack some. I'm not trying to
invite myself, but I've never been. We might just I
just know I've heard from guys that have gone and
done it, and they'll go have good success, but I
might have to slap that. I was gonna try drumming
that water preserve over there, but I don't know what
I'm hearing is it's more waterfowl than upland I mean

(56:34):
it has quail. I guess quil. The quail population's coming back.
That's why I've heard too wow until we slaughter them
that place that every time I heard a few years
ago the pheasant population was coming back. And then it's like, oh,
there's like we've only seen five all year. I'm like,
what the fuck? No, But like like the fifty acres

(56:55):
that I was talking about earlier, it's a you go
sitting that stand on a blue jay beautiful morning, and
you will hear nothing but quail all morning, and really
like there'll be like two or three coves of twenty
to forty. Like the population on that place is per
which granted, if you could make a quill like aat,

(57:17):
we'll habitat place. That place is it It's got a
hay meadow and it's got a bottom that's sumac, and
it's just you know, it's just ment like it's perfect
for quail and deer. Turkey, not so much turkey really, No,
Turkey's never come on that place. They always they stay

(57:39):
on either side of that or whatnot. No, they there's
a right across the road. There's a little eighty acre
piece that they always hang out on and guy keeps
it mode low and UH has good roots streets right
around there, and that's where they always hang. Now we've
we've killed birds calling them across, but it's no easy

(58:00):
feet to call him across a black top road and
two bubble wire fences. That can't be easy. You spend
more time trying to work the bird. Then it's like,
I can go find another bird somewhere easier. Oh yeah,
I bet man. We have been talking for about our
one minute. That's good that we're doing good, doing good. Eventually,

(58:22):
I was listening to Joe and Elan's recent podcast and
Elan said, you know our number two, our number three
is really when you get to know the person you know.
And I'm like, I need to get more equipment because
I could sit here and just talk to you for
two more hours about hunting, because I love hunting. I'd
get more into the whole trapping thing because I do.

(58:44):
I'm and that's where i'd learn stuff, because I mean,
I know how to trap. I know, like I know
the very general basic information right, but I've never dove
off into it. Because I've always been so big into
my cat and mouse with big deer, and you know
I love at her calling. See, I just I like,
I enjoyed because it's about the only thing I'll shoot

(59:05):
a rifle at that will with consistency. Yeah, Like I
look forward to breaking out my twenty two two fifty. Yeah,
I was just about to ask you, will you shoot
them with you and thump them with that? I have
a as my first gun my dad ever bought me. Really,
it's a Reminton Model seven hundred twenty two fifty and
I'm a flat killer with that gun. I've done some

(59:28):
cool things with that gun. There was one I was
back in college. I was in college at that time.
Had a buddy, Tristan Wills, who wrestled at o SU
for a year before transferring to Little Rock. And then
Cooper Hicks, who went to OSU and became a vet
student and graduate. He's working as a vet in Prior
right now. But I was good buddies with both them.
And uh, anyways, we go, we go hunt a place

(59:51):
and we call this dog up and I was I
was viciously hungover, viciously like like I hadn't started throwing
up yet but you knew it was coming. Oh yeah,
And this dog just runs him, runs right up in
there fifty yards click goom.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I didn't load the gun and I had, I had,
I had, didn't have it in the chamber. And the
dog starts arounding and I jacket jack of shell in
and it's you know, it's not really it's not hoofing.
It's doing their little bounce trot. And it's on a
hill and so I'm just all I can see is
him bounce up and I'm I'm like timing him, timing him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
And I was like, and I'm pretty sure I just
smoke that coyote, but I may still be a little
little feeling good. And they're like, you didn't smoke that coyote.
That's aid Tristan, come down here. I did tend him
right through that, right, I mean perfect. And we walked
back up with that dog and my buddy Cooper, he's
a big predator caller and hunter that they like, they

(01:00:51):
enter contest all the time. And he goes, you will
never do that again. I said, you're probably right, You're
probably right. Oly, shit, that's a good as shot. God damn,
my first gun is a twelve gauge semi I meg
Remington brown Browning, Rimming Browning, Browning Browning, not Remington Browning

(01:01:17):
ten gauge twelve twelve gage. Okay from Belgium is those
are those are number that's been nineteen seventy seventy. It's
been nineteen forty, nineteen forty nine, fifties. The only reason
I'm going when was the Korea War nineteen seventy three
is whenever they quit making Belgium model and it all

(01:01:39):
went to Japan. So I was in the fifties early
fifties when my grandfather got shipped over to Korea. He
bought shit ton of guns while he was over there.
My grandpa gave me, I need to kill a deer
with it. It's just so hard for me to break
a gun out on a deer. But I have a
a three zero eight ooh Browning lever action rifle. I

(01:01:59):
have a thirty thirty nineteen such nineteen seventy one, a
year before they went from Belgium to Japan, yep, and
holy shit. And the only thing that he didn't have
on the gun was the magazine. I hopped on eBay
and I found one for that gun. It was like
ten or fifty bucks. I was like, oh, from magazine
from Belgium. Though I think so it had to be

(01:02:22):
probably fits, it works, it may not, you know, it's
not the original part. But I'll never sell the gun anyway. Yeah,
that's that's the same with my first twenty two single shot.
That was my grandfather's first gun he ever got when
he was like seven years old, back in the nineteen
twenties or thirties whenever, you know. I also got a
seven mag And if I ever do happen to draw

(01:02:44):
out for a rifle elk, which someday I'll do it
just to go do it. But I love my archery
so much, yep, but I do want to. It'd be
cool to break out that seven mag an on a
big old bull. Yeah, that would be definitely would be. Okay,
we're good, We're good. I'm just trying to time things

(01:03:06):
out everything. I guess let's wrap things up because you
have a kid. It's getting yeah, it's getting late. I
just saw the tea. Well, still, you need to be
at home with your family. I don't want to keep
you out too much. I apologize for the lateness all
that and everything I'm glad you got to tuck your

(01:03:26):
girl in and everything like that. That's awesome, perfect, that
is good. I'm glad everything worked out, guys. I apologize
for any of the inconvenience you guys have witnessed. There
will be editing, and then there's probably gonna behind the
scenes on Patreon, so you never know whatever. I generally
don't edit. I usually just slap and go, but I

(01:03:48):
will have to do a small well edit here and there.
But Kay, you survived the Heey cast. You are more
than welcome to come back anytime. Like, if you ever
decide to do the content and want to promote it,
more than and welcome to come on. That's the whole
point of the podcast. I do promotional for comedians, businesses,
do a little journalism here and there. I try to

(01:04:09):
get local politicians in and try to, you know, get
a little dive into our own statehood and stuff like that.
So I got you, Where can we find you? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I h because you've got good pictures. You got fucking
some fucking bucks that people need to see. Instagram is
probably the best way to go looking through some of
my my hunting adventures. Uh okay, Cowboy up Brock, Cowboy
up broc okay, and that was that. I remember setting
that up back when I was in college and I
was wrestling. I set up cowboys. I'll drunk, were you No?
I set it up because there was a book that

(01:04:42):
John Smith put out called Cowboy Up. That's right, And
I was like, you know what, I remember a lot
of you wrestlers were into the anything John Smith. You guys,
I was biased. You know, I grew up. He was
my uncle. Not no, no, no, I get what you're saying. Yeah,
I mean any Stillwater kid that went to high school
here or you know, just through this system. Nos. Oh yeah,

(01:05:03):
Smith family. Me and me and Joe started wrestling with
each other when we were like six or seven. You
grew up with Joe, Yeah, I grew up with Jared Dickey.
So I got the basketball kind of yeah side of things.
You got the wrestling, like I got to hang out
with James and like all that. I got to do
the Tony Allen, Ivan McFarlane ball boy kind of stuff,

(01:05:25):
you know, I got to so I got something the
same kind of experience being a kid. Joe would be
wrestling and John was trying to make us tough you know,
and he'd be like, all right, okay, get on your back,
all right, Joe put a headlock on him, all right,
now get out in the You would stay down there
till you found a way out, and then it'd be

(01:05:47):
the other guy's turn, and they would always break out
in one of us getting mad and throwing a punch
or it was. It was pretty comical. I'm sure it
would have been something that would would have been unbelievable
to watch. I bet the last story for me. I
remember Jared, Dicky and I we got picked up by

(01:06:08):
James's secretary or not, I don't want to call her secretary,
but you know, an assistant to help him, you know,
with life basically. And I guess we showed up to
a was when Sean was the coach at that time.
We showed up to a closed practice. Well Jared being
Jared thinking I'm family and you're with me, so it's fine.

(01:06:31):
We're gonna go sit in the you know, floor seats
and just watch practice. It's whatever. We walked around the
corner almost onto the court and James was already yelling
at us like get the f out here, this is
a closed practice, and we were like okay, so we
just left and just walked through Hall of Fame and
all that kind of stuff. But I was like, what

(01:06:52):
was that about. He's like, listen, I'm his own kid,
and it's a close practice. Apparently, I don't. I had
no idea. It's like, damn, I guess your dad doesn't
even trust you. Must we work on something, top see.
I think we were playing Kansas that week or whatnot,
So it was a you remember when Sean took over
and we beat Kansas. I think it was maybe a

(01:07:15):
few weeks before, a week before that, or maybe a
week after. I one of the two, because we were
on a roll at that point, you know, with Sean.
All right, enough storytelling, all right, guys, find him on
Instagram at Cowboy up brock. Yep. Wow, I actually remembered that.
I'm actually proud of myself. And then uh like and

(01:07:36):
subscribe this guys. Yeah, anything helps, and uh, I love you.
No homo to the guys and girls. I'm off the market.
So it's not like that. But you know, I don't
think any girls listen to this. If you do, thank you,
appreciate you, all right, guys, peace, love you all right. No,

(01:08:04):
I don't forget that. I hope you get a whole
bunch of use of it. It'll make me feel better.
He lit, Mark Trotter, how are you hey? I'm good?
How are you good? Welcome to the Heally Cast for

(01:08:25):
the Helly Freeman. What's going on? How do you do
it good? How are you good? Hello? Marty? Oh hey buddy?
What's up man? How are you doing next? How are
you doing? What's your real name? What's your government name?
That is my first question. I'm just gonna go right
off the bat and get J. J.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Wood. What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
A long time listener, first time guest. I'm excited to
be here. All have headphones? Yeah? Great, guy, Healey? What
year were you born? Ninety seven? Ninety six? See al right,
technically you're.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
A nineties baby, but you missed half of it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Foot grip the Pta foot

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