Episode #91 - Jake A Merrick (Host of the Jake A. Merrick show! 96.9 FM) - TheHeleyCast

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
iPhone.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Nice, what's up, guys. Welcome back to another episode of
the Heey Cast. It's been a minute, I know. And uh,
my guest here is a candidate for governor, Jake A. Merrick,
host of The Jake A. Merrick Show as well on
Radio ninety six point nine, which is actually really cool.
You're the first person I get to talk to that's

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on air on my podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, well, I'd love to love to set precedents there, right.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I asked you earlier, what what made you want to
run for governor?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
And are are you upset with what st has done
or like I'm just jumping straight into it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Just oh' that's why I usually do it too. No,
it's good. Well, as far as me wanting to run,
you know, I'll have to start with a bit of
background on myself, you know, as a Christian and one
who has really committed him self to follow Christ. I
mean I went since I was fourteen years old. I

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felt to call the ministry and pursued that by going
to Dallas Baptist University, did an undergrad and biblical studies.
Wasn't sure what to do after that, had no family
history of ministry or ministers or anything. So I was
kind of feeling my way around this thing called the call,
but intent on doing what I was created to do.

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And that's kind of a lifelong endeavor, I found out.
And sometimes that changes, or at least your understanding of
it does. And so I went from there to seminary,
did a Master's of Divinity Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, finished
that up, and still said, okay, what now. Still didn't
feel like it was complete. I didn't have complete revelation

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on where I was called, what I was supposed to
be doing. And I love to preach. I love to teach,
preach all the time behind the pulpit. Taught for four
and a half years at Southwestern Christian University in Bethany.
Love that. But I've always been Bethany too. Yeah it is,
it's just down the road from it. Yeah. So I've always,
you know, had a foot in the marketplace, kind of

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one foot in the church, one foot in the marketplace.
And that's kind of the way it's termed anyway, marketplace ministry.
And I've always owned my own businesses, you know, variety
of construction businesses, different things, and but our primary focus
has always been the call. We served in a couple
of churches, and in pursuing that and in prayer, I

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really felt convicted and prompted to run in twenty twenty
for Congress. You were senator well before that. Before that,
I ran for Congress, and that was my first dive
into politics.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
For federal Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So yeah. It was the race that Stephanie Bye ended
up winning. And we had recently moved into her district,
not knowing it was her district, but we were there
she ended up winning. You know, there was a total
of nine candidates, including myself, and I did that out
of obedience. Felt like, hey, this is where God is
leading me. It was a big curve for us because

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we'd always been really in the church. I've been a
personal trainer for years, owned a couple of gyms and
that was a ministry of mine as well, did construction,
but never thought ministry or I never thought politics, and
then suddenly we're there, We're jumping into Congress. It was
a big dive and learned a ton and when that

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race was over, I was kind of ready to dust
my hands off, say, okay, Lord, that was fun. Now
let's get back to ministry and what we're really supposed
to be doing well. I knew almost immediately after Stephanie
Biss had won that that first race was just to
prepare me for the second. She had to vacate her
state Senate seat to go to DC, so that means

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especially election, somebody to be elected to fill up the
remainder of her term. I happened to live in her district,
we had recently moved there. It just I looked at
all the pieces on the table and said, God, you're
just arranging this perfectly. So I ran for that seed,
got part of the waters long story short, and we
won that seed. I would say weed because I always
include my wife in this, but well you should.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean, it has to be your wife. Is your
in sports? She's like your your Shay and she's chet
you know, right, or you know something like that. Or
is it Williams who's a Jayalen you know? Or Loud?
You know? Do you pick anyone they'll mash with Shaye,

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but your Shay, you know that's right.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Got gotta lead, gotta lead, and man, she is always
she's my rock right there beside me. Depend on her
so much. You have kids, We have two girls. We
have a fifteen year old and a ten year old.
Get those rights.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Had to my own myself. Well, I didn't have them,
but my fiance head one back in February of twenty
four and then just one May, one boy and one girl.
We're done. Well, she has an eight year old already
from a previous relationship. We say we're done. At least

(05:17):
we'll see ye ye. But you're right, she's Latin, so
you know it. We'll end up with.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Twelve exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I was starting football team at least with one reserve
starting lineup. No, but are you so running as governor?
Are you pleased with what stick has done for the
state so far? And how are you answer that?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Real quick?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Because I have another question that's gonna kind of just
steer to a whole different direct, a whole different area. Yeah,
you know your opinion on Stitt.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
As with most people up at the Capitol. When I
get to know them as people, they're good people, right,
and there's a lot of peop people. I am very
much on the opposite side of the aisle with that.
When I can sit across the table with them and
enjoy their company, and I believe they are good people.
Probably doing what they believe is right, and so I
have to always make that disclaimer because I don't want

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to make them out to be devils or anything. It's
easy to do in politics. But I don't agree with
sid all the time. I think this year he's made
some more aggressive moves, highlighted especially at the very end
of session when he vetoed sixty eight bills, so very
aggressive and really pushing for tax reform. He did last
year as well.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I want tax reform.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think everybody does. You know, it's good when the
government doesn't steal from you, Honestly.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I want to be one of the freer states. I
like what Florida and Texas have done with their taxes,
especially Texas with having up to ten children, you have
basically one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
See you're already talking ten children. See.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean if Oklahoma does it, then you've got yeah,
I'll do it. Get one hundred percent property tax wiped out.
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's a big one, and I am all on board
for that, is removing property tax completely.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
There's no reason for our population as well, for sure.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean people want to move where there's freedom, right, And.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Don't get me wrong. Our population has gone up since
twenty twenty because of COVID, and I mean people fleeing
blue states where redder state. We are probably the reddest
state if you look at election time. But I just
I would like to see homegrown yeah, population more.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, I mean, hey, it says a lot whenever people
want to stay and right that.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
But like also a lot of people will will fight that,
and like, why would you want to make more idiots?
Because Oklahoma ranks what forty ninth in education.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Technically not a big problem with education.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, so what is the problem with education? Like, I
get it. We can't pay our teachers, So then the
teachers that we have aren't as good, but they're they're there,
they're doing the job. But our curriculum is outdated as well.
So where do we even start Because to my understanding,
you got not you guys, but the education system is
still using books that I used in high school and

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that was ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, and I don't honestly think that's the problem. I
think that I'm all about paying our teachers what they're worth.
But I've also spoken to several teachers and they've told
me it's not the pay And so while we probably
could raise that teacher pay to match surrounding states, is

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it facilities? Well, I would start I would start here.
I would start with the administrative bloat. Okay, meaning less
than fifty percent of the funds allocated for education are
going to the students. That's a big problem, right.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So I just read we spend about three point three
billion dollars on our education and yet.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's more than half of our budget of our total
state budgeting. Yeah, exactly so. And then here's the thing.
We homeschool are younger. We homeschool with both of our girls.
And I was homeschooled, and I would put my ten
year old and my fifteen year old up against anyone
in public school. They are avid readers, they devour books,

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they're disciplined, and it doesn't take a lot. We spend
less than one thousand dollars a year on curriculum. Now,
of course that's different setting environment. They have one on
one attention with me or my wife, mostly my wife.
But it doesn't take much to educate a child. No,

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and we depend a lot more on technology with chromebooks
and these kinds of things. Do we need those? No,
we don't.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
I was gonna say, why don't you just print more books?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I get it, trees and even I mean books that
are what ten, fifteen, twenty years old. You know what,
if you mastered that, you'd still be pretty brilliant, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Right, I mean, sure, you don't have, you know, the
last administration or this current administration to learn in the
history books. But you might have the first Trump administration.
I don't, probably not, Probably not. You're not going to
have the Trump administration period in history books, depending on
the state.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, they they're obligated to update curriculum, you know. I
think every six years is what it is for different
Like this year was social studies, okay, and so next
year will be a different subject, and so it's it's updated.
It's a slow process, but it is. But that again,
that's not the core issue. And I don't think teacher

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pays the court issue. Although if we redirected funds to
the teachers in the classroom rather than paying over fifty
percent to administration. You know that we have we have
several districts.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I think administration are you talking about like superintendents.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Superintendents tend to be the main focal point one of
my great good friends from church is a superintendent. I
get along great with him. He gets along great with me.
So again I put that disclaimer in there, just like
when I'm talking about teachers, like there's good superintend Do you.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Both agree though that it's gross?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, he has said that. He agrees as well. He
comes from a small school district, so he's not one
of those getting a crazy salary. But you have those
like union out in Tulsa of Oklahoma City Norman, where
the superintendents are making more than the President of the
United States about stillwater you know anything, I don't know.

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I don't know what it is. I know that there
are multiple districts that make the superintendent makes over two
hundred fifty thousand dollars and and then that's not including
their their staff.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's way more than the president.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
And and wow, we have well I think it was
like five hundred and thirty school districts. So you compare
that with a state like Florida thirty superintendents. Yeah, where
you have Florida, what is I think Florida has like
seventy to put that in perspective.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Now, but their school their school systems are spread out
further though, aren't they so like for example, like for
Oakhoma City, like the Yukon, Alreno and Mustang would all
be under one.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
School sixty seven Florida sixty seven. It says, yeah, so
here here's what I think a possibility, and all these
things need to be just sometimes you can't just come
out this is the answer. You got to throw out
possibilities and have the discussion, have the debates. But I
think this is part of the discussion, is how do
we how do we I don't want to consolidate schools,

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but what if, for example, we said for every one
superintendent there they oversee thirty thousand kids. So in a
lot of rural districts, that's going to broaden that to
include multiple schools. In other school districts like Oklahoma City
and Tulsa, you might have to have two. You would
separate that out so that two superintendents oversee those.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's literally like a house the representatives you cut out.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Right to represent so many, so many constituents.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You get a district and you stick to that district.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I think that's a possibility, and it seems fair
every superintendent has the same number of students. If anything,
you might even pay the rural school districts more because
they're gonna have to travel longer distances between schools, but
they're all going to get about the same pay. Of course,
that would be determined by their school boards.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Do most states have less than five hundred's.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, you know it's again you have to compare with
with states of comparable land mass and population. But yes,
it is.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I believe Texas has more than five. Yeah, I'm sure
it is huge. I get that.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Let me see search that real quick.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Florida like that Florida sixty you said sixty seven, sixty seven,
that should be about what Oklahoma has maybe seventy.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
So Texas has it's said twelve hundred and twenty four.
Educational entities is what it says, twelve hundred So big
state obviously.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oklahoma, I believe that's one area that we can look at.
Another one when we have when we have standardized testing
and we're teaching to the tests, we're not teaching kids
how to learn, We're simply teaching them to regurgitate information. Yeah,

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So the goal is to get them to pass the
test so that the schools can get more money.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
And it's a standardized test. So it's like it's it's
one test. And I know you've probably seen the example,
but it's like the example is there's a tree and
you have an elephant, you have you know, a turtle,
you have a monkey, you have a giraffe, and then
you have the teacher, and it's like, Okay, here's the

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standardized test. Climb this tree.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I think every student has their own way and technique
and I'm not sure how you would do that in
the school systems.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It becomes very difficult. That's also why I love the
charter school model.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is the charter school the is it kind of like
almost a ged kind of.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You No, not necessarily a charter school is to me what
that is?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I guess I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, so it can it Well, I'm some of over
my words here, you know, no want a charge school?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is it like a tech school?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
No? No, it's it's publicly funded and in Oklahoma you
have a supervised school. So Oklahoma City, for instance, their
public school district would would sponsor a charter school, but
that charter school could then create their own unique way
of teaching. So Dove, for example, is a charter school
in Oklahoma that teaches math and science. So they specialize

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in math and science. If you have a kid that
that's their propensity. They are great in math and science.
You take them to Dove and where they can be
focused on that and in Excel. There's other classical models
that you know, teach more of literature and a classical
style of teaching. But these charter school there's a lot
of criticism on them that they I guess the criticism

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is they don't have a school board. Okay, so you
don't have elected individuals overseeing taxpayer, publicly public money, but
they do get they do.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, why don't they have a school board just because
of the way they're teaching or.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well I believe part of that is because they have
a sponsored school who does have a school board.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So that school board is supposed to rain or not rain,
but kind of.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Supervise them, make sure they're checking all the boxes. And
but what we're seeing, I mean states like Arizona for instance,
they have the best reputation for charter schools in the nation. Okay,
and you know, I forget their percentage, but it's it's
over fifty percent that they are blue ribbon schools with

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kids that are that are excelling. And you know, I
think that when you can customize education to a child's,
like you said, unique learning style, then you're going to
get better results exactly. And then also you're going to
have a lower teacher to child ratio in those students
in those classes, so lower overall population in the charger.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of school is going to be as stressed either.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's it operates. It feels more like a private school.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
The win win kind of Honestly, I believe it is.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think that I like that model of course you have.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
How does that work for the SAT and act? Though?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
When you take well, they can still take it. I
mean just like a whole schooler can take an act
and SAT.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, I wasn't sure how different of a learning because
you're learning differently, but I guess they still have to
semi prepare you for the SAT and.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
And and all of that really assumes college, which that
trend I believe is really shifting and more and more
are thinking schools votech schools scam. You know, Charlie Kirk
is you know I send to believe Charlie Kirk with that. Yeah,
I mean a lot of people graduating with useless degrees
where you have others going to votech and they're they're

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becoming a plumber in two years, you know, immediately putting
their skills to work.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
They're only nineteen thousand dollars in debt. If that sure,
you know, usually it's probably ten.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
To a lot of them are working while they're going
to school in that trade.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Right, so they're paying it off as well. But then
once they graduate, it only takes them a few years
to pay it fully off. Instead of working your whole
life like a lawyer, and then when you're seventy eight
and you're already retired from your lawyer job, or maybe
you're not, but you're sitting at home and you finally
make your last pay check and then you die. That's

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that's the life of the lawyer. Okay, do you with
charter schools? Do you believe how would you introduce them
to Oklahoma? Would you do a kind of copy of
Arizona what they're doing with their school.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, they're already here, obviously, but we have far fewer
of them. So in talking with the chairman of the
Oklahoma Charter School Board, he was talking about them going
to Arizona and really taking a look at their model
out there, just because they have the reputation of being

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the best in the nation. So he's the one. Brian
Shellam is the one who informed me about what's happening
in Arizona, and he likes the direction I think the
board is. Can they agree on this that you even
remove the requirement for a sponsor school over these charter
schools to really set them free to do what it

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is they do, because oftentimes those sponsor schools will make
them in their own image, and so it really says, yeah,
you can do this except for this, this, and this,
So they're really not free to educate like they would
like or like the students may need. They start, you know,
creating another public school.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, I mean, I get what you're Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, so that's one option, and I think that doing
that would help those ramp up more quickly. A big
caution here because of Epic. Epic was a charter school,
is a charter school, but their history of corruption and
so that is the argument is that people ramp these
up for their own personal gain, not really to help students.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Let me ask you this. I know you homeschool your daughters.
Would you send your daughters to a charter school if
you didn't homeschool them, we just said you did.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
We did send them to EPIC, our oldest daughter for
a while until they changed because they became so popular.
They grew in numbers, and then everything the way they
did class changed, so they went. She went from one
year in a room that's real relaxed like this. They
were doing their their assignments on couches on the floor
wherever they could learn best. And it was great for

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my daughter, who does not work well sitting in a
seat for eight hours, right, And so because they grew
so much, they moved everyone to the traditional classroom setting
sitting in a chair, and it no longer works for her,
so we had to pull her out and we started homeschooling.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I was gonna ask you what started the homeschooling and everything,
because I mean, with the charters you running as governor,
I do, I am going to ask you questions like
would you do that for your children? Or you know,
like because I have kids myself now, so I genuinely
want to know, like if you wouldn't do it for
your kids, then why are you preaching it or whatnot?
And I assume wherever you preach you want it. You know,

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you're not going to preach something that's false. I mean,
how sure, Yeah, how I've met you so far? I
mean we just met. Still, I feel like I've known
you just through text and everything. Even very helpful just
getting the set up. How's the poison life?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
By the way, it's gone thankfully good now.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
But it's just interesting. And I mean I would ask
the same question with Donald Trump and like, would you
let Baron go to a charter school?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
You know, obviously they have the money, all the money
in the world and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
But I mean it's just, you know, it really is
about finding the best fit for your kid. And we
have done everything with my oldest. My youngest she's only homeschooled.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well for a few reasons.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
One is the education system is sorry for Arab No, No,
it's in my opinion, it's kind of indoctrinated a lot.
And I don't know how it's hit Oklahoma necessarily, but
I know West Coast, East coast, New York, California, Port
when those kind of areas, I get it. Wokeness. Yeah,
you know, let me teach you nothing about education and

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gender and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, doesn't make
any sense if you ask me. Nope, but it's hard
to believe that it's here in Oklahoma. I could see
it in places in Texas. I mean, I guess it's
not hard for me to believe it in Oklahoma. I've
always found Tulsa, the portland of Oklahoma, more liberal.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, especially with their.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I always but also when I was younger, I always
thought Tulsa was conservative because they were the oil you know,
capital of Oklahoma as well, So it just confused me
what Oklahoma City was. And every time I've come here,
more and more it feels more conservative, more Christian, more
family orientated. When I go to Tulsa, I feel like

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I've gone to Chicago or Gotham City or Portland. I Uh.
The only place I really do feel safe in Tulsa
is the gathering place. I don't really feel that safe
there either, but like it just it's it's Portland. Like
that's all I can tell you know, it's it's blue hair,
pink hair, weird people you might be listening, Please don't

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hate me. Sorry. Where was I going with that?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Where? Why? At homeschool? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, with the doctor nation of education that.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Is a big part of it. You know, as Christians,
we want to well, first of all, I would encourage
parents to always be engaged and involved in their kids' education,
no matter where they're going.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Why not a religious school.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, I mean that's an option. And we did have
our oldest she went to a private Christian school for
a while. Like I said, we've really tried everything, okay
with our youngest. It has just been a good fit.
My wife felt comfortable teaching her. They had a good relationship.
She was able to learn.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I'm not trying to convince you send your kids to no.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
No. I mean we really we've looked at it.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
That you guys have the opportunity to keep them home.
I want to keep my kids home.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
If I get that, it is a real blessing. It's
a huge blessing to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's only forty five minutes what I've read, it's about
forty five minutes to max ninety minutes a day.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
It depends. It just depends on the kid. And so
you know, our youngest, she she will get up and
start dancing, and so we're like, hey, sit down and
do your work. So you know, we have that flexibility though,
and if we need to take a trip, we'll take
a trip. If we need to run an errand my
wife will run an errand come back and resume studies.
It's very fluid, but we can go on tons of

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filled trips. I mean, everything is a learning experience.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Now, are you using a computer system to do we
We do use the computer on some things.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Most of our stuff is with physical books.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
What's the so, like, how do they like graduate or
move on to the next step.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Of like, well, so they a lot of curriculums are credited,
so they can get their diploma through that, and we're
actually shifting to a new curriculum this next year that
is accredited, where she when she finishes, then she will
have an official diploma.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Now here's the real question. The accredited curriculum. How do
you know that that's not indoctrinated kind of material as well?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Because discernment I mean, and and you know firsthand because
you're teaching it to them, you know, so you're right
there in the middle of it, and you know, we
actually it's interesting. Just last night my wife and I
sat down and looked through the curriculum and we go
through the books. You know. The one we're looking at
is a very well known Christian curriculum, so it's got

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a really good reputation using a lot of Christian schools.
So but we are engaged. We know what she's reading.
Even the library books she checks out, we know what
she's checking out.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's wild that the public libraries are even in doctor
NATed too.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
You have to be careful. We you know, just a
few years ago, we went to the public library, got
her a whole stack of books, and we were reading
one of the books to her at night. And I'm
sitting there reading it to her and has a princess
on the cover right right, and she's all about princesses
and ballerinas. We're reading it. Well, it's all about a
little boy who wants to be a princess. So I

(26:51):
get halfway through it and I said, oh, we're done
with this one. And she's like why, And I was like, well,
I'll explain later. But you know, you have to be
aware because you we'll slip in there. Yeah, And that's
you know, we're very I may call you helicopter parents
or whatever. We don't care, because we're gonna we're gonna
make sure we protect our kids. Yeah, you know, and

(27:12):
it only takes seeing things one time, It only takes
one wrong touch all of that, and and that kid
will be scarred. So we're gonna do everything we can
to protect that our daughters.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
So if you do become governor, just me as a
normal person. And maybe I'm speaking for a few, quite
a few, Oklahomas. Are we going to do the death penalty?
Do we have the death penalty?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh? I believe.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
And when we do the death penalty for like pedophiles, like,
can we like public execution?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I think how it's performed maybe up for debate. I
think we need to find a different method though, since
it's not not very reliable.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, everywhere else they get off after fifteen months of
being in jail, like California, they just let them back
out because they're reconditioned.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well, we just passed in a bill five ninety nine
this year Senator Hamilton Representative Tim Turner. They authored the
bill which greatly increases the penalty for molesters child molesters
and up to the penalty of death. Good and so yeah,
I mean, and that's maybe I was going too far
with the public execution.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
But you know what, I mean, like, I don't think
in the Bible it says if you heard a child,
you should be put to death, And we don't do
that as a society here. We want to fix them.
And really, in my opinion, the only medication is a
led piece of lead for them. That's just my opinion.
I mean, what happens when a dog attacks a child?
What do we do? We instantly euthanize it. We don't

(28:42):
give it another child. We youthanize it, well, you know
in state statute and law. Then we have to set
parameters that will then be decided by a jury of
their peers and a judge. Right, so we have to
give them due process. Let every case be examined on
its own merits, and let the jury decide what the
appropriate penalty is.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But I I appreciate that that is now an option. Yeah,
and even life for a first offense is very important.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
See even for first fence.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I know, I know very since I'm hey, if it's.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
My daughter, you know I have a daughter now, so
like it's.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Exactly you think about your own daughter and you want
it done right now.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Like I see, I don't know how I gone to
the for you page of TikTok. But on the side
of dad's just killing the serial killers or the molesters,
like I can't remember his name, but he's on the
phone and he puts the phone up shooting.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, I forget the name of that one too, that's
one of the.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Most famous ones. Or the mother that just kills the
guy in the courtroom from Slovenia.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
And it's just hard to hard to blame him.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm that parent though, That's who I would be. I'd
go I don't care.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Sometimes I mean certain judges would be like go home.
Certain judges would just take it in their own hands,
like I There was a case in Texas where a
dad like his daughter came home after being molested and
she told him, and he went over to the guy's
house and beat the guy to death. He called the
police himself and was arrested, and then the judge ruled

(30:18):
not guilty and he was let go to go home.
Because of the whole situation, apparently the guy that was
doing that to his daughter was doing it to his
own daughter too, so he free the guy. The father
of the daughter freed his family as well. Right, It
is a cancer for sure, it's disgusting. Like I mean,

(30:41):
and I hate saying this, but like I'll look at
girls or women around in the mall or and I
have to be careful myself because I'm engaged. And I'm
not talking about like cheating or anything, but it's just
like they're probably sixteen and they're looking like women out here.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, you stop with the fluoride in the water.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Big jump there. Well you're you're.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
About you're running on health for Oklahoma, and yeah, that
was a horrible transition. But like I was just thinking
about that. I mean, we have we probably have.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
A low food and I am all I am going
to lead a massive health revolution in Oklahoma. It has
to start at every level with our food. Even before
our food, our land, the farmland that's being spread with humanure.
You know, the biosolids that are full of toxins, full

(31:37):
of chemicals uh p F s as, the pfas, p
f p fas. Yeah, the the the chemicals that don't degrade,
the one hundred year chemicals that of course are going
to your system into the the animal system that you eat.
And so we're dealing with macroplastics. We're dealing with fluoride
in our water e it is rampant. And this is

(32:00):
where this is going is absolute dependence on the government
to feed us. And when the government starts feeding you,
you know you're in the wrong place. So we better
get a hold of our food chain where we could
feed ourselves, we could feed our own people. And you
know it's one of the reasons. You know. Related issue
is the quote unquote green energy agenda where we're seeing

(32:22):
thousands of acres covered with solar panels.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, I mean not sorry to interrupt again, I interrupt
a lot.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Sorry, No, that's good.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
But if you've seen a landman, Billy Bob Thornton's character
literally lays it out perfectly about the green plan where
no matter what, in all those items for green green energy,
you need oil, right exactly, the fans on petroleum, petroleum
for the gears, even for the gears and solar panels

(32:54):
when they shift for the sun, you still need lubricant,
like no matter what. And also the panels are made
out of a certain type of petrol.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
You know what happens when the windmill turt you know,
blades have to be replaced, and the panels, I'll.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Tell you exactly where it goes. It goes to Winnebago, Iowa,
where there's a giant hole in the ground and they
grind it out up throw into the hole. That's it,
and it'll be there for twenty million years. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
it's not going anywhere. It's disgusting what we do to
this planet. Yeah, and I'm not the biggest like planet freak,
Like I would love to drive a gas guzzlin truck

(33:32):
if I could afford it, Like I don't. It's not
that I don't care, it's just I'm also the type
that's like us as much as you can while we're here.
And like, there's recent studies I may be wrong, but
just recent studies that say oil is proven to not
be coming from fossils because if you look at old

(33:52):
oil sites, they'll retap them. Companies will retap them. Right,
Why are you retapping it if it's already tapped.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think they came from dinosaurs.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
No, so they obviously replenish somehow as well.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, So what is oil and all?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know, I need to get scientists on.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I believe it's a blessing. I believe it's a gift
that we were able to use that for energy, right,
So I'm all about maximizing our natural resources of oil
and natural gas here in the state of Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Are we going to tax oil companies higher? Because to
my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong. Last time
I checked, we only tax oil companies at like two
to ten percent, while other states are like Texas, for instance,
it's taxing them thirty five to fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Well, I feel like we're kind of missing out. But
yet we have the most oil companies here out of
all the other states because everyone's taxing the hell out
of them. I get. I don't want these oil companies
to leave, but I also want profit for the state
as well, because I mean I go to Texas, I'm like,
I want BUCkies here. Excuse my language, I'll bleep that.
I'm sorry, but I mean, like, you know what I mean.

(35:05):
Like that's just I look at Texas and I'm like,
everything is bigger here Oklahoma. Like people. I'll tell people
in Texas my game, I'm from Oklahoma. Oh North Texas. No, Oklahoma, yeah,
North Texas.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Shut up right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
No, I.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I want to be careful obviously with any kind of taxation. Yes,
he no, No, it's fine. We have to have these discussions.
I think that a possible scenario where we could see
an increase in production tax for oil companies is when
we eliminate the property tax that has to be compensated for.

(35:43):
So where does that come from? And I don't want
to put the entire burden on anyone, anyone industry, anyone industry, now,
you know, I certainly want to protect our oil and
gas industry. But that is a possibility, is to could
we raise it one or two or three percent to
help compensate for the the removal of the property tax.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, don't get me wrong, I get it. We don't
have offshore drilling like Louisiana and Texas. We don't have
that opportunity. And to my understand, those are the higher
tax ones offshore because it's a higher possibility of ruining
the habitat or polluting the environment. I mean, we have
leaks here, don't get me wrong, but it's I feel

(36:22):
like it's not as bad as it would be with
the ocean.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know, sure, yeah, I mean it's very well regulated.
I believe the industry here and you know, you meet
these guys and they're they're interested in making a profit.
You don't make a profit when you have oil on
the ground, you know, so you get that in barrels
and you clean up around you. And we have just
top tier companies here in Oklahoma who do it the

(36:46):
right way. Of course that's not everybody, but you know,
I believe the vast majority of Oklahoma's value our oil
and gas industry. Oh yeah, and are skeptical of the
green energy companies coming in.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Definitely that I can. I mean from just people I know,
which are more conservatives than liberals. But I'm know a
few liberals that think the same way that it's kind
of crazy because you need petroleum to run all these
green energy ideas too, no matter what, it doesn't matter,
you just need it. And I mean synthetic oils aren't
the best. You know, they're going to break down and

(37:22):
break down the gears eventually, it's it eats away instead
of being pure oil. How do I know this? I
work with cars. I know, I work at a dealership,
so I actually detail cars. So what faith are you?
You went to Dallas Baptists. Are you Baptists or just Christian?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Well, you know, so Baptist is a denomination of Christian
and so denomination. Yeah, I am. You know, I guess
non denominational. I would fall into the charismatic vein if
you would, because, you know, a belief in the expression

(38:02):
of the gifts in the church. And I love this
this conversation, you know, I mean, I this is my
first passion is the Bible and theology, and so you know,
it's I was raised Southern Baptist and married a Pentecostal girl,
and so you know, the whole joke is that you're

(38:24):
more Baptisostal, little hybrid mixed, you know. But but we're
definitely more charismatic in our expression of our faith.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
What church do you attend or what type of church
do we?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
We go to Vital Church in Chickasha, Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Sorry, I wasn't like actually asking for the church, but
great for that. You actually did. Absolutely, just because you're
running for governor. I didn't necessarily want to. That's up
to you.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, well, I'm usually an open book.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Another home address too, let's talk.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, No, Chickishe, Oklahoma. Great pastor down there in church,
and we've been going there for a out three months,
so not too long before that, we were hosting home
church in our home for about.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Three years because you do ministry years.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Now I'm a pastor, so we led church there.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
What's your ideas about Life Church. I know you're not
gonna say anything terrible about Life Church.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I hate them now I'm playing. I'm playing now. I
you know, Here's what I believe about different kinds of
churches is they really have a lane. And Life Church
is lane is to win the lost, to bring people
in who are unfamiliar with church and introduce them to
the faith, introduce them to the Bible, to worship. And

(39:38):
they do a great job at that.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
They don't care how you're dressed.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
No, you just come in.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I've come in like worse than this.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, yeah, you know. I think that they do a
great job of what they do. And there are other
churches who are fabulous at missions. So they are all about,
you know, going overseas or wherever. There are those that
are great at serving the homeless, you know, there are
those that are great at just teaching the word and depth.
And so I don't think that anyone church has it

(40:06):
all or should have it all. Got you, Yeah, but
Life Church they do great at what they are called
to do.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I would say just to get this out of the way,
I'm more spiritual than anything. I've studied a lot of
the religions like Buddhism, Judaism, Judaism, however you want to
say it, Islam, Christianity, Catholics, and they all have a
lot of things in common. They all fight each other.

(40:32):
And the reason I lean more spiritual than choose choosing
a religion I do. This may sound bad. I do
believe in God because I like to hedge my bets,
you know, like if I don't like instead of once
again hurt in my opinion, like instead of not believing
in God, why not believe in him? And then once

(40:52):
I get to the gates and Saint Peter's like, do
you believe in God? I'm like, I mean, yeah, no,
I definitely do. But yes on Earth I said I
did believe in God. It's just I was spiritual. And
then he'll send me hell because I say spiritual. I
don't know, no, I you know, like the Bible says
He's a forgiving God. But where I was going with
that is just a lot of the religions also have

(41:15):
that predator you know, pedophilia thing to Catholics, Jews, Islam Muhammad.
I'm not going to go in depth with it, but
just a lot of the religions are about young people too,
and it's just like I get it when it was written,
you know, the times were different, but also it still
describes that the man is like in his fifties or older,

(41:38):
laying down with a thirteen year old. So it's just
what I'm not trying to I'm not going to ask where,
like how can you believe in a religion like that,
because I mean, religion isn't necessarily like that. I mean
it is and it isn't just depends what church you're
part of. Like certain Catholic church don't have editors, you know,

(42:01):
other Catholic church like in Boston do that have to
be moved around.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
But you know, like it's in every It's in every
church and every religion. You know, evil, evil is pervasive.
It's like rust. You know, it's going to find a
way if it's not taken care of. If you don't
tend your house, is going to find a way in.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Like the Bible says, tend to your house.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, you have to. I mean, you'll here's the thing.
None of us are immune, right, and you know, apply
the analogy. Whatever it is, cancer, rust, mold. You know,
it's that quiet, subtle thing that seek that sneaks in
and if you don't get it out, it will take over.

(42:41):
And you know it. So it's in every church, every religion,
and it is in all of us if we don't
deal with it. The the thing about Christianity about following
Jesus specifically is you know, I I love. I love
this conversation. Once again, when which talk about in general

(43:01):
all of these religions, the thing about Jesus that's different
is all of the other religions talk about what you
need to do to be good enough to get to heaven.
But Christianity is very clear you cannot all have sinned
and fallen short of the glory of God. You cannot
be good enough. So instead of him making requirements, we

(43:24):
refer to the Ten Commandments. The Bible's clear the Ten
Commandments were like a tutor. They were only meant to
be temporary until Christ came. And then Jesus actually says
he fulfilled the law. He is the fulfillment of the law,
and he did what none of us can do. He
lived a perfect life. None of us can live and
he died in our place, the place that we should

(43:46):
have died. So the whole point of the Christian faith
is not what you can do to get to God,
but how God came to you. It's all about grace
and love. He came and did for you what you
could never do for your self. And so now it's easy.
It's the Bible says you're saved by grace through faith.

(44:08):
You simply believe Jesus came and lived a life you
couldn't live, died in your place. If you believe that
His righteousness is given to you. And now you go
to heaven. You go to the pearly gates like you said.
And Peter, if he's there, that's a kind of a whatever.
But he says, why should I let you in? Because
of what Jesus did has nothing to do with your

(44:30):
own ability, you know. That's that's why I said, you
didn't do anything. That's why it's called the gospel. The
gospel actually means good news.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
So here's a question. Do you think Hitler's in heaven.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
If he trusted in Jesus. Here's the thing. The most
the most vile person, if they trust in Jesus, their
sins are wiped away here, I'm that crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'll cut this part out because I really, I am
genuinely curious. Do you think Jews get into heaven if
they believe in Jesus? But they murdered Jesus? So I
just I was just curious.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
No, absolutely, you know, anyone who trust in Jesus.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Catholics and Jews together kind of killed Jesus if you
think about it. Well, because well, I guess the Roman Empire.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Right right, and and you know Jews were wicked. Let
me clarify, the wickedness that is in all of us
was in the Jews there, and they did influence his death.
Of course, the Romans were the ones who actually crucified him.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Well, Pilot gave him to the people instead of having
to be the judge jury.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yep. I mean, there's no way around it. The Jews
were involved, and probably they're the ones most culpable for
his death, but it's on Pilot. Well, I mean, he
could have ended it. He could have ended it, but
he did give it to the people to make the decision.
They said, and they released convicted criminal over Jesus. And

(46:01):
you know it was prophesied. So again, Jesus was sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
What's going on right now? Free the Venezuelan.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Well, it's Trump in prison. Oh, you know it never ends.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
But you know that's probably not a good comparison. Sorry, God,
I'm not comparing Trump to Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I mean, I'm a comedian, guys, I'm gonna make jokes
about everything.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
It is something I believe that we have to return
to as a culture virtue.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well, Oklahoma has more churches, I believe per square mile
than any state.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Well as I say that, you know, standing in a
garage doesn't make you a car, going to church doesn't
make you a Christian. True, And you can be in
a church your whole life and never know the reason
for it. And Jesus' number one enemies, they were the
religious people of the day.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
That's very true. You know.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
So religion, religion for religion's sake is very nasty and dead.
You know, God is all about life and your purpose
and whenever you connect with your creator, and the Bible
is very clear that the only way to the Father
is through the Son, that Jesus is the way, the
truth and the life. No man goes the Father except

(47:25):
through him. So whenever you surrender your life to him
and trust him for your righteousness, you get access to God,
your creator. All of a sudden, you understand your purpose
and he starts leading you down this path. That's what
led me to run for governor. You know, ultimately, it's
about a relationship with my creator. He starts leading me
and says, and I want you to do this, and
I want you to do this, and I'll empower you

(47:46):
to do it. If you have enough faith that trusts me,
I'll give you what you need to do it.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Trying to think, I guess I'm going to transition transitionsition.
This isn't gonna be a good transition. Native Americans. Yeah,
Stitt has been kind of harsh on Native Americans. I
haven't been really opposed to his harshness because I do
believe either give us sports gambling, or give us a break,

(48:20):
or give us your taxes. It's my opinion. Also that's
a joke. But like I've gone to Oklahoma reservations, Native reservations.
They're not nice. They're kind of they're not as bad
as like Montana, Wyoming, don't get me wrong, but they're
not nice like the Carolina's Native Americans. Like the Carolina's
Native Americans, they're very rich, very well off. Every child

(48:43):
born into the tribe like it's set up with a
million dollars just like that until they're eighteen, and then
they have the choice to go to college or accept
their however much money they have with the tribe. Here
in Oklahoma, what I've noticed is the people of the tribes,
can I need to suffer while the casinos and the

(49:04):
one percent, I guess of these tribes are living just fine,
just like our bureaucrats in DC. And I'm not trying
to step on Native Americans toes because I'm going to
marry a half Latin half Native American. So like I
she agrees though, like she's like, where is the money

(49:24):
going if it's not going back to the people, And
my opinion is it's going back into the casinos and
going to the one percent like the bureaucrats.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
So I'm just like, I mean you, I'm one of
those people. If you give a sports gambling, I'll shut up.
Just give us this. I just need a sports But
I don't know where the money is going. I wasn't
asking them about that, but I was just curious about
your opinion because it has been very like, very on it. Yeah,
and you running as governor, are you going to continue
the pressure or you're gonna just maybe sit Why don't

(49:58):
you guys just sit down and have a agile conversation
because what I read it sounds like it's just on
the phone with the I don't.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Know actually how that conversation happens, but I believe you're right.
I believe you have to sit down podcast.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
You have to sit down, less stoner guy like me
talk to the tribes, and you as governor.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And b guys, just mediate, just mediate, let me go.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
To the dispensery and we'll smoke up. Peace good.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, it's well, yeah, it generates a lot of a
lot of hostility and opinions.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It's a touchy subject.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
It is, it is, and I have to say this is.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
That win, so watch out.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well I'll speak honestly about any of this, but I
the history of the tribes in Oklahoma is a very
sad story, yes, you know, beginning with the trail of
tears that led them here. Yeah, and and so my
heart goes out to them. We are bound to a
federal treaty, Yes, so that makes things complicated. We as
a state, the question is can we unilaterally make decisions.

(51:03):
It appears that with the McGirt decision, that power, that
authority has been stripped from us as a state. I
can't say that I completely agree with the Murgert decision.
I would like to see that reconsidered.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Can it go to the Supreme Court?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Well, that's where they decided it. Okay, So they decided
the McGirt decision, and basically, you know, you had a
rapist and I believe that fact is right, just if
it's not, forgive me, but by the name of McGirt, yeh,
he happened to be a tribal member. So they turned
it back over to the tribes to determine his fate
and that was the new president. That is the new

(51:43):
president is for the tribes then to try their own
So you know what complicates the issue is things like
Tulsa sitting right in the middle of a reservation in
tribal land. Yeah, you have the casinos, were the question
about where the money is going. You have the issue
of turnpikes and are tribal members paying tolls they're not,

(52:05):
And that's been a big push of Stits. I agree
with Stit on that, you know, but some of this
is not Some of this is just about the way
it's approached. Like you said, are you sitting down having
these conversations. I may agree with him, but Trump and.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Just like terrible people, what horrible people, We're going to
tax them very hard, very bad, very bad tariffs for
them all. I don't know if we can tariff them,
but we'll find out. It'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
He's got a way about it, and that's his way.
I mean, it works for him.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
So as a state, while I'm on tariffs, just real quick,
as a state, can we tariff companies or other countries.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
That would be on the on the federal Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I wasn't sure would we? Would it be for states?
Then would we tariff other states? Like Culvers? For instance?
Is a Wisconsin company, Culvert? Have you ever had Covers?
It's up in Kansas City, really good burger place.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Oh oh right yeah Colvert?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I was saying it wrong. You're right,
they like, could we tariff technically them if they were
here in Oklahoma like the BUCkies? Or is that just
re Is that just nonsense?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You know what you have it wouldn't apply to like
retail stores and things like that. But you know institutions
like universities, they may have different standards for in state
or out of state and even hunting license. Then they
may charge more for out of state hunters to come
in and hunt.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
If you win as governor, can we drop the prices
for residential hunting?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Oh? Yeah, right, and I think that fish. I had
to look at the details. Warren Hamilton centered to Hamilton,
had a bill to do that to get priority to
in state hunting.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Fishing went up to twenty seven when I used to
pay twenty one dollars. Yeah, and hunting is now thirty
one when it was literally twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
And people have to remember that all of that. There
are different forms of taxes.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
But where is this money going when a lot of
the WMA is being closed down or being or oh
Lapland Oklahoma Land Access program is not being even reinvested.
Like a law of the farmland that I used to
hunt in northern Oklahoma for pheasant and quail is no
longer available. Oh Lapland has completely gone because the state
didn't renew with that farmer. So now I have to

(54:18):
drive another quarter mile or wherever to dry to try
to hunt a pheasant and I don't even know the field,
you know, like it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Right right, Well we need to go peasant hunting sometimes,
so yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I have your phone number. I love pheasant hunting. Where
do you go? Western Oklahoma?

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I actually have never been feasant hunting, so you need
to educate me. But that's what I've heard is out
west is the best spot.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I do wild management, so I don't do the ranches
and stuff. I like trying to actually walk and stuff.
So it's not a guarantee on getting anything. But also
it's a fun time, yeah, exactly. Regardless, have a secret
service out there, that'd be cool as because governor gets yeah,
governor gets secret.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah. Yeah, they have a security details.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Important ISAAC government make sure you stay alive. So it's
a shock if you get assassinated. God forbid. I hope
that doesn't happen to anyone. You coming from a background
of religion and the radio, and you'd be in bold
like Joe Rogan.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
And Mark k It obviously gives me an advantage.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
It gives you one hundred percent advantage. You're trustworthy just
because your your shiny head. It just it distracts people.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I'm hiding nothing. Yeah, I'm hiding nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Exactly, bare headed nothing toe. I like it. I like
it a lot. When is the election twenty twenty six right?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Twenty six? Yeah, the general be next November twenty sixth,
but it'll be decided in the primary. So the Republican primary,
I believe it is going to be in June. I
was about a June of next year, so four year
from now, okay, okay, next year? And then are you
guys going to do debates and stuff? Yeah, there's several scheduled.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Okay, so we'll do that and have you qualified because
you have to have a certain percentage to even debate, right?

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Well?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Or is that just federal with RFK No.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I think that it may depend on the host and
what they want, you know. But I currently, as of
this recording, have not filed, but I probably will be
by the end of the month. That's a new that's
a little breaking news here for your podcast. I originally

(56:26):
said I would be looking at next April, so going
the whole essentially going to the deadline before officially filing.
And so the way I'm doing this this campaign is
very unorthodox intentionally so to challenge the route, Okay, to
challenge the whole system, starting with the campaign. So if

(56:47):
you want to dig into.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
That, definitely, I have to. I'll definitely. Uh the ones
that are running, for sure? Is Genner getting her drummers?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
The attorney general Attorney general? Is any Democrat running?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I haven't Cindy Munson, Representative Munson has filed on the
Democrat side, okay, And she's the only one I know
of as of this recording. And then you know, Speaker,
former House Speaker Charles McCall has filed.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Connie Johnson at all, not that I've heard of, because
she ran last time, right right.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I don't know if she's officially filed. I did hear
rumors of possibilities.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
But she came on to my other podcast, The Highness
and Boozer a long long time ago. I tried to
asking her the question about the two to ten percent
tax and she's like, no, we tax some way higher.
She just refused to answer her question. She's like, that's
not true, that's fake news, and we tax them the
same as Texas and Louisian. I was like, I have
it here on my phone, and she just went accepted.

(57:50):
I was like, all right, whatever, and I was like,
you're more than welcome to come onto my podcast anytime.
And I've invited her and she just never responded. Was like, yeah,
I guess you don't like facts. I'm not trying to
be mean, but it's just like it's like, Oklahoma, just
we have the most oil, let's work on it. Yeah, hey, buddy,

(58:13):
we're getting interrupted. We're about at the one hour mark.
But and I hate to do it, but I'm probably
running out of space on that camera. What do you
have to promote other than the big news that you're
gonna enter the race here next month, which is awesome.
If you need anything help back on the podcast, whatever

(58:33):
you I mean, you have your own media source, to
which I'm jealous. That's awesome. If you want to come
back onto the podcast, you're more than welcome you. If
you need my help in distributing or knocking on doors,
I mean, I do have babies, but I mean I'll
knock on doors. Al Reno. It's a very conservative place
to my understanding.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
So I one of the things we're doing here is
I'm not taking as of now any donations from individuals
and for the duration of the race. I won't take
any money from packs or special interest groups. And so
the reason for that is I want people to have
absolute confidence that I'm not bought out.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Well, you should be asking the people for the money
you should well.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
And that's typical and there's nothing wrong with that. But
one thing I'm doing is I'm encouraging the people the
money you would donate to my campaign, I want you
to go and reinvest in your community. I want you
to go and buy your own signs or your buttons
or whatever you want to do. Organize within your community,
that's cool, and own this campaign. Let it be yours.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
That's actually a good idea.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Yeah, you know, just what would I use the money for.
I would use the money to buy signs and give
it to you. So you make your own sign, you
organize within your own community, spread the word.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Just advice because I want you to win, and I
don't think that's a bad idea. But I think you
should also do, like not twenty five percent, but maybe
ten to fifteen percent, invest in signs yourself as well,
maybe help a jumpstart at least with you know, because
we know your name, JK. Merrick, right, your brand is

(01:00:13):
ninety six point nine. So the blue, white, and red.
I know how your logo and everything is, and I
mean most people are going to relate you to that.
Maybe come out with something unique as a sign for you,
like if you I hate going back to Mark K,
but Mark had an outline of his bald head with
his headphones and it's just blue or black or red

(01:00:34):
or whatever and that was his signature logo with underneath
was the Mark K Show. You know that kind of
stuff and just an idea, do something that is uniquely
uniquely you as well. Because I love your idea, I'm
not negating it, and get it. Give everything a kickstart,
give people an idea of what they want in their community.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Well, I'm going to have my Jake for the State podcast.
Go to Jake for the State and find the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I listened to your stit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah the interview.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah it was shorter than I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah, we I kept it short intentionally, around thirty minutes.
He had a time deadline as well, so I only
had about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I was just about to say he probably had a
time thing. Also. I listened to Joe Rogan, so he
has three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah exactly exactly when when I heard about good tolerance
built up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
So I was waiting for a three hour sit down
with I was like, yes, finally, because I just listened
to Abbot, I want to refresh myself with Texas governor. Governor.
So I listened to Joe Rogan's Abbit three hour commerce,
three hours, twelve minutes and twelve seconds or whatever, right,
and then I went and listened to your thirty eight minute.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
I was like, three hours. But I will have more
on the Jake for the State. I'm really going to
put a big emphasis on that. I have another one
that's going to be launching here pretty soon, and I'm
excited about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Where can we find you? Social media and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, so you can go Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Twitter, It's excellent, right,
call it. So I'm all on all of those platforms,
either Jake Merrick or Jake for the State. And yeah,
we're going to be going strong. We're actually going to
be doing big events in communities across the states. So

(01:02:15):
we'll have people out, We'll serve him some barbecue, have
some giveaways, and talk about how to change the state.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Just like how Stitt did when he ran as well.
So we'll be cooking up some bevos. Yeah, guys, go
out vote support. Like he said, you know, you are
the community, you are the campaign, so make your voice heard.
I'm going to endorse him already, even before he even enters.

(01:02:42):
I'm endorsing you for sure, right you all. I mean,
you gave me the opportunity to sit down with you
and talk to you, unlike a few people that I've
mentioned before the show. But I mean I've had other
politicians on, and I've tried to have Stit on. But
I mean, like you said, he's a very busy man
and I'm a long form type of podcast. I mean,

(01:03:03):
if I had the right cameras, we'd be going for
another few hours. I can talk to you for enjoying time.
This is nice and like I said, you're more than welcome.
Just hit me up, come back if you need help
with anything more than willing to help you as well
as as much as I can with new kids. But
I will help you as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
All right, when people can find out more at Jake
for the State at gmail. You can get a hold
of me there a Jake for the State at gmail
dot com dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
All right, guys, remember to vote. Remember we're red State.
Let's not screw up you guys. I'm talking to you,
the ones that moved here. Let's not screw this up.
All right, all right, guys, thank you for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Love you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Hey, I'm good. How are you good?

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Welcome to the Heally cast a. Kelly Freeman. What's going
on here? How do you do it good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
How are you good? Hello? Marty?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Oh hey buddy, what's up man? How are you doing next?
How are you doing? What's your real name? What's your
government name? That is my first question. I'm just gonna
go right off the bat, and just JJ Wood, what's up?
Longtime listener, first time guest. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
All have headphones now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
You're getting Yeah, great guy, Healey? What year were you born?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Ninety seven?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Ninety six?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
See alright, technically you're a nineties baby, but you missed
half of it,

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