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August 11, 2025 67 mins
Daniel sits down with DJ, music producer, former pro basketball player, and all-around funny guy Brandon Lucas—aka DJ NaymeBrand. In this episode, the two swap stories about late arrivals, CP time, Uber rides, and the unexpected ways creative names are born (hint: it involves boredom in New Zealand and a beat-making session). Brandon shares his journey from the court to the DJ booth, his overseas adventures, and the origins of his music career. Daniel reflects on the early days of TheHeleyCast, wild unposted rants, and the reality of starting a podcast with a Blue Yeti in his dining room.
🎧 Laughs, behind-the-scenes stories, and a little bit of chaos—welcome to Episode #97 of TheHeleyCast.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Much.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, yeah, I say seven, You're like eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
All right, you said seven forty six. That's a bit
so I can be there.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Before then someone slept in. No.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I got off of work and I was dog tired,
so I was, man, I knew I had this to do.
I went to sleep. I set my alarm for six
and I slipped past it, so.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, it was my apologies.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I was I'm dog tired, so like my heart was
halfway into it, so I wasn't even set up when
I got hold of you, And when You're like I'm
on my way, I was like, all right, let's do
this commitro.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I shared my CP time with you.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh yeah yeah. I was like I was half in,
half out like this until I saw you row up.
I was like, all right, I'm going to start packing
up here in five minutes, every five minutes, back here
in five minutes, another five minutes. I'm like, if he
doesn't make it by a I'm a pack up. And
he rowed up, and I was like, if.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I knew I wasn't gonna be here like before eight,
I wouldn't have told you I was on one.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's like, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I was like, ah, like the I will not be
an hour late to anything, but I do apologize for
me being here at this time.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, I also thought you were ubering.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, so I was. My whole thing was I was
gonna uber, and if I did have the uber, I
definitely would have gotten here at eight, if not past eight.
So the fact that I even now have a loner, well,
I thank you very much. Bavarian out of the house.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
But uh, that was what I was afraid of. I
was like, damn it, he's getting an uber. That's why
it's taken so long to get here. But you're also
on the south side too.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, I live all the way More, so it
took me probably and I sped here to going like
at least eighty five, no less than eighty. So I
got here probably within like eighteen minutes. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I was thinking about that all the way here. I
was like, damn and really what made me really like
keep on saying five more minutes, five more minutes, was like, man,
he's coming from More and he's taken an uber, so
that's at least twenty five thirty dollars. I'm not getting
fucking five more minutes. Yes, yes, but I did I

(02:11):
did make up in my mind, I'm like eight o'clock.
That's on him. I'll reimburse you half of it, like
i'd send you fifteen dollars Venmo or something. I mean,
because I bro, that's still like you spent money to
get here. So I got somewhat reimburse you because it
didn't happen, but it's obviously happened. You guys are watching now,
by the way, welcome to the podcast. Welcome back. My

(02:34):
guest today is a DJ, A little bit of a
funny dude too. Honestly ex basketball player, so if he
sounds professional, that's why. Ladies and gentlemen, my guest today
is Brandon Lucas. What's your DJ name? Let's hop into
that real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
My DJ name AMDJ Blackie. Hey, I mean I could
DJ smiles. You're gonna make me blushed and you would
not see it. I'm now my DJ name and my
producer name because I'm also a music producer as well.
I go by name brand why because my name is
Brandon So that makes sense?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh okay, everything makes sense.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Connecting it on Instagram all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I chose that name literally when I was overseas and
I had too much time on my hands. I was
in between seasons, and I just happened to be chilling
in my place nothing to do whatsoever, I mean, like
absolutely nothing to do. It was a free day. I
was bored. I used my friend's computer setup to use
his fl studio because my laptop was messed up at

(03:47):
the time and I didn't give myself another one, so
I came here back to the States. Neither, mind you,
this is a New Zealand, so if I didn't start
with that, so this is a New Zealand. I used
my friend's computer set up to make like this beat
and whatnot. While I was bored, and for whatever reason, uh,
for whatever reason, he came in and he slipped up

(04:08):
and like was talking about like some clothes that he
bought and said they said, hey, these are these are
some name brand stuff, Like have you seen these? Because
apparently they're like that. He hasn't seen the brands before.
So I was like, name brand name, my name is Brent.
And then like out of nowhere, I said I got it,
like literally just blurted out as if it was like

(04:28):
like the greatest epiphany ever. And yeah, from there, it
was like that man was like nigga, what And from
there the legend of name brand you know, kind of
went on. So what was that like, twenty twenty nineteen,
twenty nineteen, I came to that conclusion that that will
now be my producing name from here on now.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Six years ago.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, six years ago.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's crazy think like six years ago you were just
getting your name. Five years ago, I was just starting
this podcast with a blue yetti mic in my living
room dining room, getting way too drunk, like I drink
a fifth of vodka and just like say, radical right wing,
life wing just just just piss off people, just you know,

(05:15):
exactly do Alex Jones kind of rant, but like vice versa,
do it for liverell is.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Just like ah in this industry, Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, never posted them. I just couldn't.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I couldn't imagine.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
No, that would be for a Patreon and I don't
have a Patreon.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yet, so man, I see a lot of people that
have them, and I still to this day don't exactly
know what a patreon is.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's a pay wall. So like if it's basically for
behind the scene kind of stuff, like if I had
a producer and was recording the setup and stuff. That
kind of stuff would be behind a five dollars pay
wall or whatnot. If we went, like if we had
like just a drunk episode where the goal is to

(06:02):
get completely blackout drunk and blatantly say racial.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Bullshit like the last Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Then that would be behind the paywall and you could
charge people more money for.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
It for that. Okay, okay, so you get paid Patreon.
The people on Patreon make the money.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Doing that decent money. Jake Bassi's on it. I mean
Bad Friends is on it.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I mean, I mean, like I said, I hear a
lot of people that apparently like use it, but I
mean tried it.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I can't get a hang of it. I need a
producer to really like know what they're.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Doing with That's coming soon, man, the way that you're building.
It's coming soon. Like from the very first time I
even witnessed your podcast, and even then you had a
good setup like then, because I came with Sid and
I was all the way in still Water, so that
I drove with said all the way to steal Water.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
That wasn't even my setup. That was Malachi's setup in
that dining room, and I was using it in a monthly,
sixty dollars a month for that, and then he sold
his equipment to me, and here I am today, right, And.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Even then I wouldn't even then, even the guest on
the show, it was sid. I had nothing necessarily going
from me. I was not a DJ at the time.
I was a music producer. But nobody knew that anytime.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
About basketball.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, we talked about basketball because I was I was
still in the mode of Okay, I'm this professional player.
You know. I came back from overseas not too long before,
and yeah, my whole identity pretty much all the way
up until about maybe twenty twenty one, twenty two, actually
twenty two.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I did have been late twenty twenty early twenty twenty
one when.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It had Yeah. Yeah, for myself, I didn't actually fully
transition into music. I I didn't kind of let go
of that basketball moniker with myself until I would say
late twenty twenty two, whenever I finally got the notion
in my mindset that you know what, I have a gift,
I have a skill. I have a talent in producing music.

(08:02):
At the time, that's what I was doing. I've been
producing music since I was eighteen but twenty twenty two
is when I just kind of like I sat down
with myself. I truly had a talk with myself, as
crazy as that sounds, but it was definitely necessary for
me to progress myself and what and what this entertainment
industry is, especially for music, and it was just one

(08:27):
of those things where it's always been my calling. I
was too nervous to really go for it because I
didn't like, I didn't want to go through the opinions
of what people you know, had to say about my
music and this and that. But I got over that.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
No matter what, you're going to have to do that
that's comedy too.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah. I was always critique as a basketball player and
not realizing that that was the same exact thing. Like
there were people that thought I was this amazing player
more times than not, and then you know, have the
little sprinkle of people, regardless if it was fans or
even players that I'll play against, I would think I was,
you know, not that good, or I didn't deserve to
be where I was at and whatnot. But uh, you know,

(09:04):
hard work is always gonna hard work is always gonna
beat the voices that talk, uh that talk to you
so no matter what, I have the skill to do basketball,
had the school to do music. I went full fledged
in sport and basketball, and I made it all the
way to play professionally. So why not do the same
with music. You know, music doesn't necessarily have a age limit.

(09:25):
As long as you're good, as long as you can
get yourself out there, and as long as your products
matches the aesthetic, then I mean, I mean hell, I mean,
the sky's the limit, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's I mean. Same with comedy. You know, you gotta
just find your crowd basically, and they'll they'll eventually match
you and go with the flow and you'll figure out.
I'm excited to hear your music and hear more of your.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I got two big projects coming out this year. I
have a I have a joint project with an artist
of mine that I work very closely with. He's also
one of my good friend I grew up with him,
you knowing them ever since I was twelve. His name
is Tracks t R a X Tracks. I've already had
an album out with him this year called Frequent Flyer.
Shout out to the album if you guys want to

(10:11):
check that out on all streaming platforms you know, Spotify,
Apple Music, and everywhere else that you can think of.
But with that being said, I got a project with
him coming out. I have a joint project with myself.
I'm also coming out with as how.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Do you do that joint project with yourself?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Because as a producer, I enlist a slew of my
friends that I know in the industry, singers and rappers
to come together and be a part of a combination album,
a compilation.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
It just sounded weird how you said it. Yeah, I
wasn't laughing at you. I was just like, you have
personality disorder.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's called Yeah, let me introduce you to Michael, A
man multiple different personalities, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Na.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
But the name of the name of that project is
going to be coming out soon. I want to say.
It's gonna be coming out around fall a winter. I'm
gonna try to heat it up a little bit during
the cold season. It's gonna be called your favorite Producer's
favorite producer, So.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Good name.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, I know for a fact, name wise, I
do not carry the weight that a lot of other
producers in this state do. But at the end of
the day, I do know my value and I do
know I am just as nice, if not better than
a lot of the producers that are in the state.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Bro, just hanging out with you during the first podcast
we've ever done, said and then the second one we
did just here you. Yeah, you're fucking amazing. You're nice
as shit. Professionals. Shit, I'm not a piece of shit, dude.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I had no PR training whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Really in the league and everything.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I never had a single person sit down and talk
with me about how to conduct myself in front of
a camera, had a talk in front of interviews, how
to say this, say that. Literally all they chalked up
for me is I'm a huge movie in TV buff,
huge movie and TV buff. So ultimately, when it when
I'm in front of a camera where I'm in front
of a mic, I tap into a character mode where

(12:10):
I'm trying to be like the best Denzel or the
best Will Smith or the best you know, just the
best like charismatic person in front of that camera. Because
they're always on camera, you know, on TV shows, movies
and whatnot. They got those like those monologues and everything.
You like the monologue into like either the villain or
the hero, and like they seem like the coolest, like
badass ever and I used to I used to practice

(12:33):
just monologue and like random shit like that in over time.
Like I guess my love for cinematography and just my
love for just you know, entertainment in general caused me
to whenever I've like ever in front of a camera,
ever got put in front of a mic, I just
replicated you know what I saw. I just replicated you
know what I heard. So a lot of a lot

(12:53):
of you know, even a lot of athletes and whatnot,
you know, when they do interviews when they because podcasts
runny thing back when were kids, I mean they may
have been a thing, but they weren't big time whatsoever.
So how old are you? You're thirty three, thirty about
to be thirty three this year.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, yeah, so you and I are belt two three
ages three years apart. Not much different childhood. Yeah, we
didn't have podcasts until probably like two thousand and five.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
They didn't they didn't hit mainstream. There were podcasts, but
they didn't hit mainstream until what maybe twenty twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Fourteen, twenty fourteen was really when it started rowing with
like Apple podcasts and stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, yes, but whenever when came into the forefront and
people had no choice about to stay in their place.
That's when they realized, hey, we're gonna put this on
video and put this out on the masses of people
that are just sitting down watching and boom, next thing,
you know, everybody got a mic on a podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah that's how I can.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I did.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I got bonus at work and I went home
or went to Walmart by a fucking mic and figured,
you know what, I can do this. No, I couldn't
at the beginning did. I thought it was just all
like I was influenced by like two bears one cave,
So I just thought I was drinking and talking. You know,

(14:12):
it's not drinking and talking. You actually have to have
conversations and like actually get to know the people. I
wasn't getting to know. I was just getting smad. I've
learned a lot also, like I'm still learning, like to
conduct interviews and everything. Because I can talk. I'll talk
a lot more than usual, so it happens. Also, I

(14:34):
like this green room. Every every episode, every episode I've
done so far, I always mentioned the green room. And
you know what, it's kind of a little promotional thing
for twisters and Aaron and his what like, they've done
a great job.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
They put they put this shit together, and I mean
they put their foot off into all of this.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I wanted to. I think I might have found a
spot if I can make it big enough and long enough.
But I pitched a picture idea for Aaron in here
one last picture frame of Shay holding the trophy with
the memorial behind him.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right. My friend Tracks, my friend Tracks, the artist I
work with. He painted, actually painted. That's cool, that actual
like mural that that picture, I kid you, not one
of the coolest paintings I have seen in the in
the whole state of Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
But it put something like up there.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Man, it's it's about the side. It's bigger than what
like that, Like these photos are right here and he
he did it, He did his thing. He did his thing.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I gotta that's impressive as hell. I call, who are
you calling?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Somebody just called me. I got it on my watch,
but not on my phone as well.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Huh weirdy weird which which I watch? You got serious five?
Got series three? And my mine does the same thing.
Like I'll get a text message on my watch, but
never get the text message too.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
My phone exactly exactly. I've had this I've had this
watch since what for the last like what two years? Yeah,
I've had it for the last two years, two three
years ago.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, twenty first birthday, so nine years ago. I've had
this watch for nine years, No, probably seven years. I've
had this watch for probably seven years. I think it
was my twenty second or twenty third birthday that I
bought this watch, probably my twenty third. Yeah, and I'm

(16:39):
thirty now that sounds.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
So okay, Sorry, you.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Should be sorry. You're on off the broadcast.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
BMW people that they gave me the loaner car, and
so my car gets out the shop, they let me
know that the injectors is on that car a bad
so which I can tell. I mean the end of
the day, it's a car. And I have been Carlos
for the last five months due to uh well just
three letters b m W. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
If you considered buying something domestic.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, a newer BMW. You just like BMW's Black Man's Scriptonite,
BMW black Man's White Woman.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Honestly, I wasn't. I told Brandon Killos here and he
pulled up and he's like, hey, you want me to
sit in until you show up. And I was like,
he's about pull up, and I was like, he's probably
gonna pull up with a white girl driving him. And
he just looked at me. He's like, that's profile and
I was like, right on. He's like, no, i'd be

(17:48):
right on par.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
It'd be right on brand a shout out to all.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Just kind of looked at him and mumbled under my
breath and it was like it'd be a fab ish listen.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
This white.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Listen. Shout out to all my black queens out there, man,
I know there's a lot of y'all don't get enough
shout outs in general, just for like just for y'all
just being here, just for y'all being black queens in general.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I know there's a lot of queen too.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Hey man, there's a lot of Yeah, she's a queen too,
as long as she's black. But man, one thing I
do notice is, especially in the media, we talk a
lot about we talk a lot about and interrest of that,
a lot of black guys, you know, I'm talking about
like white women and white girls and do this.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And it's just I really don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
I mean, there ain't nothing, is nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
Like me, like me, a nice, nice white girl. But
I feel like we are undermining uh in not paying
enough attention to our black queens. And I just want
to give every black queen, not just in the United
States of America, but in the whole entire world, wherever
y'all are at.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Just know they just Americans. We only like America.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Just know y'all are doing amazing my black under.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
This administration, only Americans. Listen. Once these four years are over,
then we can love the world again.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Listen the black queens. We love them, We love without them.
Without fried chicken, be there would be no fried chicken.
There would be no soul food.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Papados, it's so good. We're zoos right down the street.
I'm pretty sure they influenced that as well.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Donald I banned fried chicken. We are going to be
a healthier America.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Koreans cook the healthiest fried chicken. We cooked the taste.
Oh yeah, Koreans are second in the world.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Korean fried chicken is literally American fried chicken because they
learned it from the Gis.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
You know that the black gas that were in the
war at that. So that's the main reason why they
have or they're considered they're having some of the best
chicken ever in the world is because they took the
recipes from US. Whenever you know, the war was going on.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
The Korean style Koreans are good with man.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Koreans are just in general, those those Asian countries are amazing, innovative,
innovative people.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
You've been around the world, so you can actually speak
on I mean, New Zealand is still around.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
The world Australia.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
New Zealand and Australia both have a very high concentration
population of Asians.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
They're not they're not melting pots. So whenever you see
a whenever you see a group of Asians, I ever
see like an actual like pack of Asians out there,
they're truly Asian. They're themselves. They don't they're not uh,
they're not I don't know how you would call it,
wouldn't be americanized.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
They're not half white, half Asian.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, they're not over there. They're not over there just
fully being you know Ausi's. They're not over there.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
They're not fully integrated.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
They're being themselves. They're being Koreans. They're being Japanese, are
being Chinese, They're being whatever nationality they are there. They
are practicing their culture freely in both of those countries
without backlash, without people saying this, saying that, Man, I
swear just being overseas, open eyes to a lot of things.
And let me tell you, man, they got it. They
got to figure it out over there to Asia, I stopped.

(21:08):
I had some flights that uh stopped over. One of
them stopped over in Fiji. Another stopped over in Guam. Uh.
And those are those are kind of like those are
islands that surround those areas. Uh.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Both military bases.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Both military, both Yeah, both military, especially Guam Gama.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Step brother was stationed there.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, their military base is actually pretty pretty good out there.
But those two countries in general, I was actually kind
of shocked, especially in Guam, to see Asian people. Now.
I know in Fiji they have a lot of islanders,
a lot of uh, a lot of motives, a lot
of sommas.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Then we call them leftovers from the war. Oh my gosh, no,
but have you seen them? Just real quick, sorry for interrupting.
Have you seen the new King of the Hill season?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I have, man, I have not I need to see it.
I need to see it, I know. And it's actually
it's funny you mentioned that because I just saw a
post literally just some days ago saying this is the
first time in fifteen years, fifteen or seventeen something like that,
like almost close to twenty years that there's been a

(22:18):
new King of the Hill, South Park Family Guy, and
Simpson's in the same month, all new episodes of all
four of those shows in the same month for the
first time since like it was like two thousand and
like six seven something like that. Twenty ten, No, not ten,
I think it was like yeah, actually yeah, maybe like

(22:38):
yeen or something. Yeah, Like it definitely was some time,
and I was I thought to myself, damn, like time
has flown that fast.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh, it doesn't feel like it because we have streaming.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, man, I remember streaming when it first came out
my freshman year of college, and I was like, I
didn't I was new to it. So when I got there, I.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Was like getting DVDs at first.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Remember still I was still going to the DVD been
like getting the five dollars DVDs. Like I remember going
to college having a whole entire bag dedicated to nothing
but DVDC.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Family Video, red Box, block cluster.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Man, red but tastings. I think red Box is still
a thing, is it, Believe it or not. You see
them in random like walmarts or random Walgreens here and there.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So they're going out business. I think they're bankrupt completely.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I want to say I thought Netflix still owns like
maybe they own it now I'm about to say I
thought red I thought Netflix. That don't quote me on that.
I don't know for a fact, but I could have
swore Netflix still owned. But which is the reason why
Redbox was still even like doing anything. Uh but yeah,
people don't own a DVD player anymore, which is crazy.
Like we're in an era now where nobody deals with CDs.

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CDs used to be the.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Thing, the only way to fuck. Even the game stations
aren't coming with you.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Got you've got an option to buy a whole digital
console now where you don't have you buy a single disc.
I was gonna say they're phasing.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
The PlayStation in the Xbox against the now you can't.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
What year do you feel like we'll officially phase out
the CD, like because it'll be the same as the cassette.
It'll be the same as VHS, like it will be
phased out.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I think we're almost there, probably here in the next
five years.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I would say within the next five or ten years,
we will not see CDs anymore guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I mean cars are already not having CD exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I feel like it'll be guaranteed within ten years, possibly
within five.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Like look at the Tesla. Oh yeah, have you said
in a Tesla.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
There is no c There is literally just a computer
on your dashboard.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
My buddy just got a new model hy and like
all he does is just flick the screen and it
drives him home.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Like I don't know, a man, I'm not I'm not
the biggest fan of the ideologies that follow mister Tesla.
But at the end of the day, or Elon Musk,
mister Tesla. But at the end of the day, that.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Rabbit, mister Tesla, Nikola Tesla, that's a whole.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's a whole.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And like all his paperwork went to one person.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yes, yes, where you talking about conspiracy? Like a motherfucker
you talk about.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
That family is now in the White House?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Ain't that something? Ain't that something?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
And supposedly Nikola Tesla discovered time travel or had designs
to a time machine.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
At this point, everything is very believable. There's a whole
whether it's true.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Or not, there's a whole theory. There's a I believe
an old Russian book from like the eighteen hundreds that's
called The Adventures of Baron Trump. It's about a boy
that travels through time and he eventually he becomes the

(25:58):
president of the United States, or it doesn't say the
United States, but of a great nation. And he has
a mentor and his mentor is named Don. Okay, so
the whole theory is Baron Trump. Right now, our Baron
Trump is that Baron Trump. And because because the Trump's well,

(26:23):
the Trumps have all of the Tesla files that Nikolay
Teslall was working on, all his stuff that he was
working on. So the theory is that the Trumps did
get the time machine. And that's why we have the
Adventures of Baron Trump back from the eighteen hundreds. It's
supposedly true stories. And his mentor is named Don, which

(26:45):
would be Donald Trump. That makes sense, and it's kind
of weird. I'm not telling it like correctly, but if
I just go down that rabbit hole and you're just.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Like Okay, I'm a rabbit hole person. If I do
look up something like that, best believe I will be
doing some extensive research.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Go down the rabbit hop the tazeki man. Are you vaccinated?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Sir man? Do we have to go down this? I'm
not vaccinated.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Neither for that reason, assue me.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Get mad of me, cancel me, or if you can.
I think we're out. I think we're out the air
of cancel relations. So cancel culture.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
For the next three and a half years.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, it's other poss back up again. I mean, let's
get it twisted like cancer culture. Cancel culture was for
a good reason. Let's not. Let's not. Yes, it was
for a good reason, and then it got taken and
then it got taken way too out of hand.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
People for the even doing a slight Hervy Weinstein. Come on,
why are we going after that guy? He was just
making a living. Come on, we can't be sleeves bag still.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Come on, walking It was a walking Uh what's any
point that man?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
But I've been watching too much Mad Men.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
So just imagine, though, and I and I wholeheartedly mean this,
Just imagine Harvey Weinstein had the type of power in
the industry where he was able to intimidate a whole
entire generation of actresses and actors to not say a
damn thing until they bound together and decided, you know what,

(28:27):
we're not scared to be blackballed. We're not scared to
talk against you. They realized their voice was more powerful
than the power he had. Exactly. But but before any
of that came to frutition, they were legit scared of
this man. That's how much power in the industry Harvey
Weinstein has.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Now imagine what you just said on a larger scale,
and Harvey Weinstein is the federal government, and.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's basically what we're living in this pot.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
All we would have to do is band together. Look
at the Revolutionary War. What did we do when Breton
put two percent two percent tax on tea? Ah, everybody,
you know, we're a fucking free country.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Fish with diabetics at that point.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And then and we shot people. Yeah, because I would
pay thirteen fourteen percent tax. And we don't say shit anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Exactly exactly because that because that type of revolution it was,
that was a it was a safer time to have
revolution back then, because ultimately they didn't they didn't have
the type. They weren't as powerful, The nation wasn't as
powerful as what they are now. They didn't have as
much control back then as they do now. It took years,
I mean, I mean it took centuries in order for

(29:40):
them to actually truly become the powerhouse that is the
United States of America. So with that being said, if we,
if we the people here decided to revolutionize and literally
try to take a stand in that same exact way
like they did on the Boston Harvard, well, do you
understand how many casualties? Like like, I'm I'm a firm

(30:02):
believer that that our government is just waiting patiently waiting
for the day that we decide to.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Air force tanks. But here's a question. Yeah, so every
state has its own individual military r O TC, you know,
reserves and everything. The question is if the people uprised,
the governors would not necessarily they wouldn't technically have to

(30:28):
take the people's side or be overthrown because everything would
start at state level.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Then it'd grow to you know what I mean, power,
I feel like I feel power. Power is the reason
why that wouldn't be a thing, because they wouldn't side
with us simply because they believe that they have more
power than us. They believe that they then they would
they would go to war with us, like they're they're
waiting here for the moment they can cress that button
and say, hey, martial law, boom, let's go get them.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
But the US military has taken an oath to the
Constitution of the United States, so and most military if
they were ordered to attack their own people, A lot
of military people have already said, especially during COVID times,
like they were told to, a lot of them refuse
to you know, So I believe if something like that

(31:16):
would happen, we would at least have one to two
thirds of the military. And you also have to think
almost every household in America has two to three guns,
almost every.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's that's the reason why revolution in
this country would be such a nerve wracking thing for
the government. The government would have no choice but to
side with themselves, not with us.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Correct. So, but the revolution is actually possible here because
everyone owns a gun, yes, ammunition, And I get they
own bigger toys like atfs and air force and tanks
and whatnot. But if the military sided with the people,
which they're just regular people. They don't have to. They

(31:57):
would technically be breaking the constitution, but at the same
time protecting the constitution, because the constitution says you are
supposed to protect the people or the country foreign or
domestic tyranny or terrorism. So if the government was doing
if we wanted to ower throw the government legally.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
They're not going. This is a different day and age
where they're just not going for none of that. They
truly strongly believe that if we and even if it's
not the whole nation, let's just say, if it's like
a couple of thousand.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
We need a reset.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Though that's what I think the reset would be martial
law in them killing the ones that decide to try
to take a stand, because if they do it right
in front of our if they do it right in
front of our faces, that will let us know right
then and there, the motherfucker's not playing. And I feel
like that's what it's going to take in order for
us to realize this country is not is not about

(32:54):
to play any games with us people when it comes
to try to overtake over.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
And this right now, where we're at, is the only
time that the government can actually show the people that
they mean business with attacking themselves like Trump. Right now,
there's like judge federal judges in court trying to escape prison.
You know, like there's there's there's politicians that have broken
the law, like House representatives that stormed a ice center

(33:22):
and they're you know, they're facing federal uh indictments and everything.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
So like.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's happening. But also people are comparing it to like
Nazi Germany and everything, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Like anythings of that era.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
The difference is Nazi Germany. They were definitely taking out
the opposition. But also this administration has proven I don't
care if you're a Republican or Democrat, were taking you
out periods if you're corrupt, which I appreciate this administration. Now,
this administration has its faults as well. Where the fuck
are the Epstein files like.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
They've been because the leader is exactly the person that's
in office is a major part of the files. That's
why if they ever came out, do you know the
ship storm of.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, here's the thing. Everyone knows he's on the list
because he came out a few years ago said yeah,
I'm on the list, and I hung out.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
With the like there's photos just actual I want to say,
photo evidence of him actually hanging out of Epstein's.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But those photos don't have timestamps, so no one knows
when those pictures were taken. And I think that's purposely done.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
There's no there were no time stamps on when Bill
Cosby drugged me and those women. Not a single time stamp.
I'm just I don't know, not a single time stamp,
not a single daytime.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I want to see JFK files. But also JFK files
are just.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
They deleted as well, Yeah, they had those. They hasn't
been the leaded. They're not they're not dumb enough to
the leader, but they're definitely hip.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
When they deleted or just burn it.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Because they because they know the truth. They know the
truth is is what they know the truth.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
But if they delete or burn the files, there's no
evidence of the truth.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I truly believe that those files are still around. I
feel like even if they told them to burn the files,
somebody would have kept somebody, somebody morally in their mind
would have been like, I can't do this. Those files
are probably still around.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Maybe maybe I don't think the Epstein ones are. I
think all those files are digital.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I think you could be right on that. I feel
like if they're like.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
A Hillary, oops I do in my email kind of thing, Hillary,
That's what like, That's what I'm kind of feeling with
Pam BONDI like, I do feel like because she said, yeah,
I have all the files and everything on my desk,
like great, that's awesome. And then she came out Sunday
or the administration came out and said yeah, there are

(35:45):
no files or whatever. I was like, did she just
like oops, click a you know, like, because I don't
think all the files are like paper files. I think
they're all just in a laptop, and it's just easy
for her to just be like, I don't know, Oh,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I feel like nobody's going to delete something that major
though I don't.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
But here's the thing, Pam Bonni. So here's the other thing.
Pam Bonnie was attorney general down in Florida. She came
in around in twenty twenty, twenty nineteen to be the
attorney general back then, so Epps must have been twenty
twenty because Epstein's arrest was twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen for
his Florida deal. So when she became Attorney general, that

(36:27):
file was handed over to her and at state level,
so she already knows what's in the fucking file. That's
the thing.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
You think they made copies.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Florida State might happen.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Let's see that.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
You have to remember he had two other places. He
had his New York penthouse and he had his New
Mexico ranch. What they discovered at the New Mexico ranch
is really fucking disturbing, Like it's that's the main basis
of the whole files. I guess is the New Mexico
ranch is really where he did his he was I
guess there was he was doing. He was trying to

(37:07):
make his own kid not his own kids, but like
injecting his own DNA. I can't explain, go down that
fucking rabbit hole. Jeffrey Epstein, New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, just just off the fact that that just off
the fact that he committed suicide. I'm sorry that man.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Never one minute missing from the video.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
That man would have never committed suicide. I'm sorry. There's
not a single thing in my mind that makes me
believe that that man was thinking, oh I have to
offer myself. No, hell no, he wanted to bring people
down along with him.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
He was in probably the best positions.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yes, ever, he knew it. Yes, he was going to
be the greatest snitch of all snitches of in snitch history.
The moment they realize he has no choice but to
stand on trial, he must die.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
And here's the thing. The reason I am one hundred
percent sure he did not kill himself is he had
two broken vertebrates in his neck. When you hang yourself
is one clean break. Now, when someone is choking or
squeezing down on your neck, it can break in multiple
different areas because of the pressures. If you're hanging, there's

(38:30):
only one jolt and you're just hanging.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, people, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
The the Also, where the fuck is the body?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Those are the actual questions. Hey, come on, man, come on,
those are the questions that we need answers to saying
that like, no, no memorial service, no nothing. We don't
know what the fuck happened to that man's body. He
just thought, That's what I'm saying. He may still be
on Epstein's fucking Island enjoying his fuck so for the
rest of his time. As long as you don't leave.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
The other question is if Epstein is it? Is it
or did it commit any crimes? Why the fuck is
Giselayne Gilaine still in prison? Why did our secretary of
I can't remember who he was secretary of, but he

(39:25):
met with her, like our federal government. Trump's administration went
and met her, and then she appears with a box
going back to herself.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
There's a lot of there's a lot of gray area,
a lot of.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I want her on the one time I would listen
to c SPAN. I don't know if you know what. Sorry,
I'm really big. I'm a big government guy. Like for
it people. I was like, did you watch ESPN or
Sports Center?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I like, no, I watched That is too unfortunately for me.
The reason why I'm even I even remotely like politics
to the slightest degrees because my dad being I really
don't know what type of what type of daddy he
watched everything. Now as far as his views, I do
know he's a Democrat. But at the end of the day,
your uncle's the Republican right or is that?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Who is it?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
That was? That's? Uh? Is that John? John? I forgot
if it was. John said, don't don't quote me on
that because I don't want to. I don't want to
put that monk on them. But I don't want to
put that monk on them. Listen, listen, Republicans and Democrats.
All it is is just just all it is is
just rich people blessing crips. That's all it is. Rich

(40:40):
people blessing crips. You got the blue side, you got
the red side, like it's literally blue verse red. Then
they want to get mad at us because we got
blue verse red. But we do it just the broke way, true, true,
do it the rich way. We can't do it the
rich way. We got the damn money ship, the other
the other red.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's actually both of y'all's.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
But hey, listen, listen. The only I don't know the
main day that listen.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Listen real quick. I would respect gangsters like, uh, what's
the thugs, the you know the guys that have their
pants down, you know, to their ankles and stuff. I'm
not trying to be insulting. Please don't shoot me if
you see me. I would respect them a lot more.
And I do respect you guys as is. But like

(41:32):
dress up like the mafia or something like dress nice.
You don't have to like be in three piece suits,
but like, conduct yourself.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I want to see as bad as bad as bad
as this sounds, Denzel the Denzel movie, as bad as
this sounds, Just imagine if there were if there was
actually actually an actual gang, and I actually mean like
an actual gang. I mean like this is just for
for say, just imagine if there was an actual gang,

(42:02):
like an actual deadly gang that did not dress up hood.
They didn't have a color affiliation. Their affiliation was look,
look as look as much money as possible. Do you
know how dangerous that would be for for us black
men that would actually try to see if we can
fit in to a corporate world, and then they let

(42:23):
us in and then we start thugging it out that way.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Here's the thing, Oh my god, isn't necessarily you didn't
have to be illegal at that point either. You could
you could ultimately go legitimate too. Yeah, that bit like
with that mindset that you carry, like and like you
dress perfect for the podcast, Like I dress perfect, you know,
I don't if I'm doing an interview with a politician,
I'll try to dress nicer. You know, I'm about to

(42:49):
have hopefully they haven't confirmed it. I'm supposed to have
a bigger name on.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Well, let's fingers crossed for that.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I'll bleep it out. I'm supposed to have still on.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Maybe okay, so that that would be That would be huge.
That would be huge. That would be huge.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I have questions, don't worry.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I will make sure to bring the mic back before then.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
We probably just shoot off. These mics are my three
hundred dollars mics I have at home.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, well, just know then now that I have a
vehicle to get from point A to point B consistently
now until my other one gets done.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Still takes you forty five minutes to get across.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Down forty five minutes for five minute. But at the
end of the daubt that would be huge. That'll be huge.
And I'm actually happy for you even.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
In forty five minutes because you're late. I'm wrapping it
up at forty nine. We're good. We're good, brother, but
it's giving you a hard time. We're on Black People.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I deserve to I deserve to get ours, man, I
deserve it.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I should have known. I was getting tease you on
Snapchat and I was just like, so, we're on Black
People times.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
We're on Ceapee time. That that should be the name
of my podcast. If I haven't come up with my
ceape time with seepee time with name brand, you'll never come.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Out with it because you'll always be.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Late exactly, and it'll it'll never it'll never ever start
on time. I say eight o'clock Eastern time, that ship
is really eight fifty two.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Eastern Next Thursday, Next Thursday. That Thursday comes.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Bad bad days gonna be next Thursday. That's my bad.
That's my bad. A shout out to cocola shout out
to a pet.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
If you just did five minute clips just like in
front of a bike back. Okay, we're starting to podcast
here soon. Just promote it and then be like coming
out next week and then just sit back down next.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Week, like, oh guys, seepe Time podcast coming soon, y'all
see pe Time podcasts.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's kind of sad. I'll produce it. I'm trying to
start my business.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Listen, I'll start enter. I'll start that, and I have
a lot of people. I have a lot of people
that would ease that I can easily get on, easily
easily get on from round here in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
You have to be on time.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
If I'm your producer no, no, oh gouy So this
is listen. I gotta I got a regular job, y'all.
I I have a regular job apart from so.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Rich white boy on nepotism over here.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Fuck you it seems that way.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
You talking about I carry myself like Denzil Will Smith
all that. I carry myself like Shane Yellis. There's no
one else. I'm garbage, bro.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I mean, at the end of the day, shan't GI's
not garbage. Though he's not that man is, He's still
he's still a very intelligent businessman, very intelligent businessman. I
think I think we're in the renaissance era right now
in Oklahoma of entertainment. I think a lot of people
in this state are behind a lot of other states
when it comes to catching on to the wave of
making making making money through entertainment. The biggest thing is

(45:40):
that we don't take a lot of risks in the state,
and the people that do, we shoot him down instantly. Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
It's very conservative.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Content creators, just creatives of any kind and here in
the whole state of Oklahoma, regardless if you're a podcaster,
if you're an artist, if you're a singer, rapper, if
you build things. It doesn't matter whatever creative that you are,
make sure that you full fledged go head first in it.
Don't take no for an answer, block out any and
everybody talking bullshit to you. And please, please, please continue

(46:10):
to help Oklahoma become the powerhouse that we know for
a factor can be, especially in the entertainment industry. Let's
do that. Please, There you go.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Nasty Works is coming up.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Nasty Work is coming up. August fifteenth. Man, I haven't
plugged that enough. Man, August the teen, August fifteenth, August fifteenth,
My guys sit here, John mcmilland about the Grace stage,
give y'all the best comedy Oklahoma has ever seen. And yes,
I may be exaggerating, but you got to talk yourself
up a little bit. Hey, that's perfectly fine. Hey, Nasty

(46:51):
work showcases. Good you though I can flip you, it's
all good. Hey, Nasty Work showcase.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It's still a showcase. So it's not yet like we're
gonna have month. It's on the fifteenth.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
We got planned shows already for the month of I
want to say September in November, so we have planned
shows already. I got some things I got to set
up for myself with somebody that I've been talking with
another brand, and honestly, funnily enough, but I'm trying to
set myself up more musically, uh to where I'm I'm booked,

(47:25):
and I know for a fact when I'm doing things
on the week instead of kind of just off a whim,
have equipment ready. The DJing to me is such a
such a new thing.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
But your critique. I noticed when last time you were
here last Thursday, you were like, I need I need
the speakers.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Bro. Man, it's I'm very I'm a very uh you.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Were non happy person, and I'll just give it you ship.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
No, no, no, no, man. The more that I actually
dive into this industry that we call the entertainment industry,
the more that I realize I like being prepared, and
I know, like that's just the basic thing in life.
But whenever you're in the entertainment industry, there are a
lot of unprepared motherfuckers. Case in point, the fact that
I even showed up late and let's you know that

(48:13):
I was unprepared today. But ultimately, whenever you are trying
to navigate this industry, you have to make sure that
you have everything that you need and then some Because
this is an industry that changes so rapidly. Things happen
so fast, you might not have a chance to sit
back and help your situation, or you may not have

(48:37):
a chance to fix you know, what exactly was going on.
If you're prepared, if you prepare yourself ahead of time,
you alleviate a lot of You alleviate a lot of
things that could possibly happen, not just like to the
situation around you, but to yourself as well. People will
understand that you're a professional. People are gonna understand that
you mean business. And I've been around a lot of

(48:59):
people in this industry that don't take themselves seriously or
don't take the business that they portray or that they
convey out seriously. So I want to try to change that,
not with just myself, but with the people around me.
So when they see me and when they see me
come through, they know, Okay, this guy's very professional. I
want you to meet name brand. You know, It's just
one of those things. It's like, I take a lot

(49:19):
of pride in this is an industry that is very unforgiving. Like,
so everybody that I meet, I'm going to make sure
that I rub the right way, not the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
You know to hear that, guys, He'll rub you the
right way.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Hey, Hey, Johnny Gill, shout out, you might I.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Might have a role for you in a TV series.
I'm writing.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Hey, I've always wanted to act. That's one of the
main things I want to segue in if I ever
get the opportunity or if I ever get that lane
opened up for me is acting. I know for a
fact I can definitely do that. Also, another lane I
want to try to get into is broadcasting. I believe
that I can easily be behind a mic. I believe

(50:03):
that I can narrate. I believe that I have a
voice for something like this. I don't know necessarily where
to start, but I am starting, so regardless of where
that takes me in life, I will at some point
either be behind a camera, behind a mic, or a
combination of both.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
That's basically the same with me. That's why I'm writing
this mini series. It's about eight ten episodes, and I'm
going to try to pitch it here, shoot it here
by the equipment of rent the equipment, camera stuff and everything,
and figure out the crew. It's a non paying gig.
It's experienced kind of yeah, cater food or whatnot, you know,

(50:44):
all that.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I think a lot of people's I think a lot
of people's pride nowadays doesn't allow them to want to
do things for free because they believe everything that they
do should be compensated.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Whenever you're in it, I don't disagree with that. I
don't and I don't either.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
But whenever you're trying to get your foot in the
door in an industry, read that is billions and I
mean billions of dollars literally just being thrown around at will.
There's not a lot of room for era as much
as you know, as much as you get thrown into
the fire of a lot of things. At the same time.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You've watched The Office, right, yes, and you've watched Tires.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, I've seen a couple episodes.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Okay, So my whole idea for this series is kind
of shot the same way. Yeah, kind of. Almost a
documentary team is following the owner of a podcast studio
and that's connected to a comedy club.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Right in, all the things that can intel with with situations.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
And basically it covers the behind the scenes of everything
that real life is happening. Kind of but also everyone's
in character. We have characters and stuff. We have a script,
and I'm writing the script and it's a really it's
terrible dialogue. But I figured eventually I'd bring in people
in here and just like hand out, make it.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Make it to where, make your script to be where
you can allow for improvisation.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Oh, that's basically what I'm thinking about doing. Like I
just have to have a script down to give everyone
kind of an idea of what I want, and then
most shots are going to be improved as long as
they know, like it's kind of more footnotes, kind of
see where that scene's going. You don't have to just

(52:26):
word for word, read you know, and do the scene,
do the words, make it your own, improfit, but know
where that's going. At least you know that kind of stuff.
So I guess, I mean it's gonna be rewritten, clearly,
but it's I mean a lot of.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Things are even at the even at the highest of levels,
like at the highest of the studios, they rewrite stuff
probably more than what probably more than what teachers allow
us to in school. So not a lot coming from us.
We are fiftieth in the state in education, so there's
not a lot of writing we did, but.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I figured Aaron could be a character in it, but
shoot it like you've seen seinfeld Stenberg. Yes, so, because
he doesn't necessarily like being on camera all the time.
If the show is too ridiculous for him to be
on screen, shoot shoot the back of him.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
About to say, have him, have him as a as
a reoccurring character.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Phone, you know, have him at the door, but off screen,
like you know, hey, guys, like because he's he's the
owner of the whole building and he's the club owner,
and he believes in this podcast he's not necessarily a investor.
He's renting it out. The main character is the owner

(53:43):
slash CEO of the studio that wants to make it
into the next barstool kind of sports deal. And he
has two comedian types starting the podcast. He has a
woman producer and then he has a intern. I'm thinking
you could play the intern.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I would like that. I like that will give me
an opportunity to do something I love to do.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So I told Brandon about this, and he got all
upset because I didn't really have a script like a
spot for him. But the way you carry yourself, you
might become an essential character. I mean, no matter what,
p is an essential character. But he's kind of like
a dumb Jamie from Joe, like Jamie Joe Rogan's Jamie.

(54:29):
He's just a little dumb down a little bit, you know,
like he's like he's grabbing coffees and like people are
just like this.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Is Almond, right, I'm just like, oh ship uh is.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Or is I you're tangled up in cables.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Or like listen, all milk is white man. I'll make
sure I'll I get some different.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Something like that, yeah exactly, and then like I'll have
to show it. I've already talked too much and I'll
have to bleep some stuff out.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I've definitely wanted to, I think, just so this is
something that I definitely want to help you out with.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
I wrote me. I thought I wrote myself a spot,
and then once I wrote out all the characters for
like casting call, and I started reading everything over, rereading
everything and uh revealing it. It's like, ooh, I might
be the side or co host of the podcast instead
of the actual host hosts of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
So like.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I'll bleep it. Main character is Evan, which is the
CEO guy. Then there's Cody, which is the jockey Shane
Gillis type, and that's, you know, I kind of thought
that'd be me. But then my next character is Matt,
which is his co host and best friend. And I
kind of based Matt off a Matt mccuster McCusker type. Okay, okay,

(55:58):
because I listened to Matt and Shane's Secret podcast a
lot and I like that. But add the more sports
flavor kind of into that for the show, and it's
kind of a nod as well. You know, you're nodding
off to, you know, a great podcast in my opinion,
and like it's gonna be low budget, so when you're
shooting with you know, the actual camera crew, then it'll

(56:20):
go to like an iPhone like kind of deal when
you're doing podcast scenes whatnot, you know. So, I mean,
I have a basis. I just gotta figure out you
have a hard out, buddy. Keep looking at your watch.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
No, my watch is vibrating.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I got you, all right, So nasty works.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Nasty work.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Well else, I mean I just saw a video last
night of you DJing.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah yeah, man, I'm I'm playing so many venues.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Now, what was that sid? Snap?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
That snap? I was at good Times this past Saturday.
Shout out to good Times, thank you very very much
for having me good Time. Good Times is right on
Western right across the street from Zuma, which is the
old Drunk and Fry. So uh, both of those places
are extremely good places. I have a very good rapport
with both. I've been asking them near begging good Times

(57:14):
to DJ for them for the longest. Shout out to
Clear for actually allowing me to uh, grace you guys
with outdoor outdoor patio. It's a very it's very big,
very nice though. At the same time, they got the
TV's out there, they got fans out there. It's a
very inviting vibe. You know, it's very chill. You know
you could. They got drinks like crazy. Their food is

(57:36):
actually amazing for bar food. Can the ie kids like
wings and stuff? They have wings, they have case ideas,
they have nachos, they have all kinds of things that
you could like. Yeah, trust me, burgers. I'm I'm I'm saying, like,
what night? Uh every night?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Every night?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Every night?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Well what night are you?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
So me? I do I think that they're open every night?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I got that open every now' I'm now starting at
least with them to do a weekend every month. Okay,
so but I'm probably going to end up probably gonna
end up seeing if I can do more. Excuse me, sheesh,
probably gonna see if I can end up doing more.
I just like to keep myself as busy as possible, because,
for one, being busy means like keep in contact with

(58:20):
more people, and more people get to know me because
I'm out there more, and then number two obviously more money.
So I mean, I mean, at the end of the day,
I mean, I mean, you gotta have money to survive.
And I love what I do. I love being a
part of the industry, the entertainment industry. But I mean
I would be nothing whatsoever if I wasn't able to

(58:42):
make money off of it, and if I knew I couldn't,
I would still love what I do without necessarily pushing
myself to the ultimate for it. Now, with that being said,
I'm not money motivated when it comes behind anything I
do musically at all. If I make a beat for
an artist, never never ever have money on my mind.
Whenever I am DJing, never ever ever have money on

(59:05):
my mind. So I don't want anyone to think that
I'm just sitting there just just money. I'm going in
just money hungry. Money is nothing. Money, money is nothing
to the creativity that I want to try to provide everybody.
So my biggest thing is as long as the vibes
are correct, as long as what I put out is quality,

(59:26):
the money will come.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
So same with me, guys, except give me moneys. Oh yeah,
go down those rabbit holes.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Brother, I definitely, man, I'm a rabbit hole person. I'll
be on YouTube for hours literally just looking up the
dumb ass shit. I look up something to do with
Michael Jordan, and all of a sudden, I'll be looking
up not even that, I'll be on Ronald Reagan. So
I go for Michael Jordan. Ronald Reagan, just real quickly,
how to fuck that I get from watching this man

(01:00:01):
dunk on you in So watching Ronald Reagan dunk on
the nation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Speaking of Reagan, that's the only reason I want to
go to California, his library, the Ronald Reagan president of Library.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I heard of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Other than that, I don't want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I really know nothing. I've been to California before. It's
it's it's a it's a nice place. But I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
It's also the state is nice, the people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
It's the land of where a lot of dreams falter.
And you can tell there's a lot of people there
that think that they are hot shit, and it's just
it's just the personality of California's in general, because it's California. Uh,
they're not gonna have the same personalities as people here
like in Oklahoma. But at the end of the day,
there are curious.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
What Austin's like. Now I got I gotta go check
out Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I've been listening. I've been a couple of times on
Sixth Street.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
For one, I've never been on Sixth Street because I
was too young. I was like thirteen when I went,
and I went for an OSU football game when we
beat them. I can't remember than was, but we beat
them down in their stadium. Nice ass stadium. I like
their stadium. But yeah, we didn't go to sixth Straight.
We went to some off taco truck slash restaurant. Like

(01:01:11):
the truck was out front, but then in the back
was like a shack. But they pass like they packed
you in like just a can of beans. It didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Austin's very nice, man. Texas in general got a lot
of nice places. I think, uh, I think Texas is
the go to for any Oklahoma and that's trying to
get out of move out of Oklahoma, and it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Just it's the nearest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
It just ends up being a bigger, a bigger Oklahoma.
It's just a it's just a better version of what
OKAC should be. Whereas there are multiple ok c's in
Texas that surpass our Okay, see.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Need more clubs eventually, that's the thing. I mean, there's
so many clubs down there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
The clubs work down there because it's I mean, you
got Houston, you got Dallas, you got Fort Worth, you
got San Antonio, you got Austin. Like you gotta play,
you gotta pass, so you gotta you gotta clubs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
The clubs work because everything's on Sixth Street, are right
off sixth Street. And like, my whole idea is you
could have a fucking great comedy scene in Okay. See
if you hit is it Sheridan? Yeah, if he did
that strip of Sheridan where poor OKC was like just

(01:02:22):
do maybe two or three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Down that that are straight down that strip. Yeah, I
don't think that that's what okay see, lacks is any
type of cultural standing for itself as far as in
the actual city, Like if you truly go to okac
the only thing that really that really stands for us
and no offense when I say this whatsoever, rest in

(01:02:45):
peace as well, but the memorial Like I feel like
the memorials should not be the only thing that thunder
now exactly we have the thunder now and yeah, I
mean the NBA team whatnot. There are a lot of
different things that okay see can dude to add to
the city to make it more, to make it more
pop for people.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
That you're gonna have the new arena and thunder Alley
and everything which is come into twenty twenty eight, twenty
twenty nine, something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Like that, hopefully before the Olympics gets here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Fingers crossed. The Olympics is supposed to bring in numbers
that would be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
The Olympics is going to make okay see, you realize
how how a way to win over our heads. We
are about getting that congratulations to us. But at the
end of the day, you're going to piss a lot
of people off with how you're going to treat the city.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Well, my thing is I don't think ocom City is
ready for the softball part. Everyone's like, oh, we run
softball because we have the softball world.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
We run softball because we happen to be good, not
because we have any type of facilities that cater to it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
There's like fifty six other countries. It's not just was
it four or eight teams that go travel, so you
have eight different fan bases coming to Oakham City. Don't
get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
That's a lot of people, a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I imagine fifty six different country and I don't know
if it's fifty six total, but yeah, I know that's
how many participate in the Olympics at least. And if
all fifty six have a softball team.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Then that's going to be hell for us to try
to manage all fifty six of them shits here. And
that's not even big. Softball's huge. Softball is huge as hell. Like,
I'm surprised they don't even have a professional softball league
that would do numbers in this. I mean, I'm surprised
it's not as big as what it is, Okay, I
get like, I'm surprised it's not on the same level
as like a WNBA WNBA gets a lot of coverage

(01:04:31):
and a lot of this, and they don't make a
lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
That's because it's Clark. Well, you have Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
You have Kaitlyn Clark. But the WNBA has been around
since nineteen ninety nine, ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
NBA for that, the NBA has been funding that since ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
You're exactly right. You're exactly right, since nineteen ninety seven,
ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, And I mean this is what their first year
that their age again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Turn of profit is why to my understanding, they've lost money,
but they've they personally the league had to lose money
in order for them to actually start to see profit.
And I believe it's because change and that change is positive,
especially in the in the realm of women's sports. Now,
are they going to Are they going to be able
to avoid backlash and avoid the jokes this and that? No,

(01:05:14):
I mean, I mean, at the end of the day, James,
everybody's gonna make fun of everything that everybody does. The
w n b A is no exception, like you got
like you you women are no exception to getting these
jokes regardless exactly y'all women, though at the same exact time,
are doing something tremendously astonishing for the league in itself,

(01:05:36):
and I personally want you to know every woman in
that league to know that y'all are doing the damn thing.
We appreciate y'all for being as rugged and being as
tough and being as outspoken as y'all are. You know,
don't mind, don't mind any of the outside noise. Hell
if anything, play into it. Shit, I mean, I mean,
y'all gonna get it. Anyways. With that being said, continue

(01:05:59):
to do what y'all do because because the league is
going in an upward direction and I love what I'm seeing,
I love the product, I love the players. Continue doing
what y'all doing. WNBA, Please let's wrap up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I think this is the open mic behind us is
catching on to the Yeah it's catching Yeah it is.
It's catching on all right, guys, thank you for being
with us this long.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Nasty work showcase. Sid Ham, John McMillan, and myself the
DJ name Brand August fifteenth, Future September, Future, October, future November.
More dates to be coming soon. I have a couple
albums coming out. Tracks look out for tracks this album
tr ax tracks. This album is coming out soon and

(01:06:41):
my joint venture, your favorite producer's favorite producer. This is
name Brand. This is Eey's podcast. We are signing out all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Right, love you guys. Peace. Hello, Mark Trotter, how are
you hey? I'm good? How are you good? Welcome to
the Heally cast A. Kelly Freeman.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
How do you do it good?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
How are you good? Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Marty?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Oh hey, buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
What's up man? How are you doing next? How are
you doing? What's your real name? What's your government name?
That is my first question. I'm just gonna go right
off the bat and just JJ wood.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Longtime listener, first time guest. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
All have headphones now you get yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Great, guy, Healey? What year were you born? Ninety seven?
Ninety six? See alright, technically you're a

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Nineties baby, but you missed half of it,
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