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August 18, 2025 51 mins
This week on TheHeleyCast, Daniel sits down with Oklahoma City stand-up comedian Cody Troutman for a real one-on-one conversation that’s been a long time coming. From awkward first impressions to clearing the air about whether Cody ever actually disliked Daniel, the two dive into comedy, community, and the weird ways comedians get in their own heads.
Tune in for laughs, honesty, and a fresh look at one of OKC’s rising comics.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I just ate a snack. What's up, guys, Welcome back
to the Heey Cast. I am your host, obviously, Daniel Heally.
My guest today is Cody Troutman, stand up comedian of
the Okac area. Are you originally from Okay? See? Oh yeah,
pretty much? Okay, Because I mean, I think this is
really the first time you and I have actually talked.

(00:26):
Like I mean, we see each other passing and we
we talked, but not talk talk, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, Yeah, we've talked in groups like many times over
the years, but we've never gotten to sit down and
like just talk one on one for a long time.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sot some reason I've got in the back of my
head that you didn't like me. Really, yeah, I apologize.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
What gave you that impression?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I don't know. Maybe I just listened to too much like
Bad Friends and Bobby Lee always has like guests on Yeah,
and then he's like, I feel like you just don't
like me, and it gets into the back of my
head of certain comedians. Also, we've tried to do this
podcast before you can adjust that your podcast or if you.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Want to said I don't I didn't want to like
Messa how close am I supposed to be to these?
Oh okay, then again I'm good right there? Then yeah, no,
Well I apologize. I'll make it more clear in the
future that.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I didn't take it and I liked the pod. I
didn't take it personally. I just I saw your pod.
Its like, oh, competition.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean, there's there's not many pods around, so there's
plenty to go around.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
One hundred subscribers. Bro close it in I think ninety
six something. I think I'll have to check. I haven't
checked in a couple of days. I just got to sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
There we go. Dude, it's uh, it's a grind.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
How long have you been doing your podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
So I started it actually before I did stand up
because I originally like, I wanted to make YouTube videos.
Yeah and I but they like weren't funny, and I
was like, man, I'm gonna start a podcast where I
like learned how to be funnier. So I started the podcast.
I did I think like ten or fifteen episodes, and
it like it was just not that great. So I

(02:05):
stopped for a year.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I think I noticed yeah, maybe no, once you got
into the comedy game, it's when I noticed your podcast
sorry for cutting you off. No, now you take a
break from your podcast for a second. While you were
in comedy as well. Yeah, so I stopped.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I did a few episodes with comedians, and then like
right when I had started comedy, and then I stopped
for years, and then earlier this year, just like a
few like probably five months ago, I was like, I
wanted to build the live show and have it be
like the podcast and kind of one thing. So I
was like, okay, let's relaunch the podcast. I want to

(02:41):
tweak the format and figure out what works and eventually
build it into the live show as well. So I
was like, I'm just gonna do an episode a week
for the whole year. See if I can build a
crowd an audience that way, and if not, I can
pivot towards fully the live show, or maybe I can
have both of them. So that's what we're in the
mid stuff. So I've been doing It's existed for like
five years. But I'm on episode like thirty five.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think, okay, I'm on an episode you will be.
I think you'll be episode ninety seven, all right. I
was thinking about doing a live show for episode one hundred,
but that'd be cool. Oh, I feel like it's lame though,
like everyone should make one hundred episodes, right.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, I'm only on episode thirty five. I've only
done it weekly for twenty weeks.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
But you're still chugging, like you're still doing really well.
Like I enjoy your content, thank you, And I think
I don't know if it's me. It's probably just me
being a podcast and everything. Your cameras, do you have
a switchboard that you switch back and forth? It's that
all in post edit that Yeah, I do it all
on the so I just recorded.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Also, I have three cameras and the audio, and then
I'll go through and i'll watch it first.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'll like chop the audio because I usually I can't
watch myself. Dude. Yeah, it's kind of literally, I run
this podcast. Just aheads up, we're four minutes in right now. Yeah,
I run it like Joe Rogan. I'm not editing. That's
why I like in my messages to and everything, I
do run this like the Joe Rogan experience, Like no edits,
We're just gonna go. If I have representatives or like

(04:06):
politicians on and I curse, I'll drop the audio obviously,
But like generally, I'm not gonna cut anything out. I know,
because I'll admit it, I'm lazy. I'm not gonna go
through and just edit a whole bunch, like if it's
an important person like Kevin Stitt or you know. I
had JK. Merrick on. He's running for governor. Oh cool,
so I had him on. He he's a used to

(04:29):
be a radio host. He had to quit his job
to run. But Cameron Bucklets took his job, did he No?
I was like, I don't think so. Cameron Bucklets isn't
gonna be a conservative talk host, but I guess they do.
He did work out Cumulus as well, the same building
with Cameron and The Sports Animal. Nice. That's my dream job.

(04:50):
I want to be a producer for The Sports Animal.
I don't care who is except I don't want to
be Gem's or Jim Traber's or Al Ashbeck's producer. But
the morning Animals will be fun. I wouldn't mind waking
up at five thirty every morning, get off at nine o'clock.
That'd be pretty sick. I mean, you have to do
some post editing and whatnot. Yeah, exactly. The rest of

(05:11):
the day show. The rest of the day that, but
you'd also be able to go to Thunder games because
the sports animal gets you that kind of uh credibility,
or you can get in at least I'm not really
even thinking about that. What I was thinking of just
like being able to work in the morning, right in

(05:34):
the afternoon because I still write. You know, I haven't
gone up on since my little jew STERI sterio je
and then I'll go up every now and then, but generally,
I mean, I'm focusing on the podcast right now. I'm
still writing a whole bunch of jokes. I need to
stop listening to Shane Gillis because every time i'm I've

(05:55):
caught onto his cadence too much. So when I do
a joke, it's like, huh, you know, like how he
pauses and everything, and I'm like, fuck, I need to
stop because.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Sixty percent of the comics around here, so you're not alone.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Ah damn. It's he's a great comic. I like Shane.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh, he's He's at the top right now. He's exceptional.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Someone told me he wasn't the best comic right now,
and I'm like, who would be the best comic right now?
Because Chappelle is kind of quiet, But I would say
Chappelle's the goat I think best.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean, in such a subjective like field, best is
hard to quantify.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, but the Mount Rushmore of comedians, Lennie Bruce would
be on it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I mean again, I don't know. I'm the people I
would put on there are not people that would be
that other who would put on there.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Really, you don't think Lenny Bruce would be on the
Mount Rushmore. I just haven't watched enough of his stuff.
I want to hear your Mount Rushmore. Let me give
it out my Rushmore real quick. I'd have Lenny Bruce
prior obviously Carlin Kennison. There's five heads, right, or is
it there's four?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
But you can throw what's going on there. They've got
to figure they've got a big enough mound you could
carve a new one.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Fifth one would be like a Chappelle or honestly a
Ron White type. Okay, you know, just a surprise. Yeah,
I mean that's a great list. I like that list.
Rogan just repeats himself. Did you listen to his last special,
burn the Boats? Yeah? Yeah, I think I listened to
like half of it. It was pretty good. It was good,
but it was reused material from some other albums that

(07:27):
he came out or some other specials he came out. Okay,
I didn't realize that. Ye really Okay, man, Yeah, I
need to stop listening to fucking comedy. Let me.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Listening to comedy is great.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
That's how it is. And it's also not because you
can accidentally write a joke that they like. I've tried
to pick at Obviously, these stand up comedians are way
better than us, and I've tried to take their premise
and tried to pick more meat off the bone. But generally,
I mean they've left nothing left, you know, like people

(07:58):
are the best in the world, are really good. Hell
it tell leaves nothing. He's great. His pirate joke, the
one leg joke, it's great. I don't know how do
you go about writing or like, are do you right
write or do you do laptop or what do you do?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I don't know if my process is like that great.
I just try to get up enough times or I
can get enough reps where I like, I feel like
I'm still not that great at stand up so it's like, no,
You're good maybe relatively for how long I've been doing it.
I'm I'm all right, but in terms of like the
grand scheme of things, you know, I have so far
to go that I'm just like, I'm still in the

(08:40):
phase of quantity will get me better faster, So I just.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Try to I get what you're saying. But you're also
getting booked, You're you have your live show, you know,
like you're you're you're kicking ass, like I mean, look
at I've interviewed JJ, Brandon Killow and dude, I throw
you up with those kind of guys, like that's very kind.
You know, they're throwing their own shows and doing a
lot too. And every time I turn around, I see

(09:05):
you posting a show in Missouri September twenty six.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
That might be that might be somebody else's show.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I have a Joplin show on Joplin show in on
October eighteenth. Okay it's October. I got the month wrong.
But no, no, I know you were in Missouri sometimes
September or October, so there you go. But that, yeah,
I mean, I see your shit. I appreciate I see you,
Cody Kilo, see a little Curtis Newsome out there. Curtis

(09:32):
is kind of banging grinds. Yeah, and then I see
our favorite little terrorist grinding as well. Who's our favorite
little tear cave on? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I saw him Intulsa this.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Weekend Team I ran by the way, okay on, No,
I'm just kidding him and I talked about that whole situation,
and I told him I just want Patrick bet David.
I don't know if you know who Patrick David is.
I want him to just be the supreme leader of Iran.
Just you know, Trump bombit, send back Drake over, We're good.
That'd be interesting. The Valuetainment Universe gets a country Iran

(10:06):
slash Value Tainment M. Yeah, that's the future. Iran would
go back to the West like the Shaw. Everyone would
have a podcast, mandatory podcast. Everyone would have oil to sell. True,
I guess Iran has the most oil out of everyone,

(10:26):
and because of our sanctions and everything, they can't do
anything with it. That's tough. That's what Keevon was at
least describing. Sorry forgetting to way to go. I know, no,
I don't mind.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I just don't know enough about Iran's oil reserves.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
If you don't mind, who'd you vote in the twenty TWI.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, I mean I'll talk about anything. I just don't
know enough about Iran's oil reserve.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I get No, I get it, just like Ted Cruz
doesn't know how many people live in Iran. It's ninety
two million.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
By the way, I did see that. That was very funny.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, like I would understand if we were just getting
nuke the whole place. Yeah, population doesn't matter, just nuke
the you know what. But he was talking about invading it.
You should probably know.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
You don't know how many troops to send that, and.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You should just know how many people you're invading. Yeah,
we do it when we're doing swat teams. How many
people are in the house.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
True, you don't know how many potential enemy combatants exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
And when you're in the Middle East. I have had
friends that were in active duty and they're like, did
you everyone is Charlie over there? You know, like they're
just because they're all they all look the same, you know, Yeah,
and like you have to remember, I mean, yes, they're
kind to you, but you also have to remember there's
also family members that are still in al Qaeda or

(11:43):
ISIS or I mean these branches are probably I think
al Qaeda still exists, ISIS k is around now. I guess.
I don't fucking know what's going on in the Middle East.
It's just it's a clusterfucking everyone wants the promised Land
of Israel and I don't know, dude. It's it's depressing
when it comes to it. Yeah, there's a lot of

(12:03):
crazy shit going on. I did vote for Trump, though
I would admit that I don't give a shit at
this point. I mean, he's a lame duck president. Now
what does that mean. It means so what I mean,
all his executive orders he can just send through basically
because it doesn't matter. He can't get re elected Constitutionally,

(12:24):
he can't run a third term. So whatever he does
at this point, he's not trying to impress the people.
He's not well, I stand corrected. He's still trying to
impress you and I or trying to get us to
vote Republican for the midterms. Once where after midterms and
if he still has the House and the Senate are

(12:44):
still Republicans that point, he's a lame duck president. That point,
he could pardon whoever the hell he wants. He could
start nuclear war if he want. It doesn't matter because
he's a lame He's not getting to do that, but
you know what I mean, Like it doesn't matter. Gosh,
I didn't know that. Yeah, I mean Obama kind of
did it when he was leaving office, like he did

(13:07):
one of the most. Uh well, they always say every
president that comes up does the most pardons. I mean, okay,
and I mean Trump even the just when he got elected,
he pardoned fifteen hundred people, you know, the January sixth ers.
So that's kind of showing that he's already a lame
duck president just pardoning all those guys. But also he

(13:28):
still has to do good for the people to keep
the House and send it. It's very complicated, gotcha. I
shifted from sports to politics after Kaepernick did the kneeling
thing and politics kind of creeped in. I was like,
we're gonna have politics, I might as well just pick
a team and for it. And that's my funny point,
Like it's not that I fully agree with the Republicans,

(13:49):
but I like to root for a team, you know
what I mean. So I'm getting picked the team that
pisses off the other people so much. And what I
figured out is it's fun to piss off Democrats, like
hardcore liberals. It's just fun. It's just I'm honestly probably
in the middle, Like I'm not id lean conservative, but
I followed the Constitution. That's what I want, you know. Yeah,

(14:13):
And I think everyone asked me, They're like, but the
Constitution is the Constitution, Like, nothing's been added. I'm like, exactly,
we should add to it. It's it's a live document,
so we should keep adding to it and fixing things,
amend things. But we don't want to. Hmm, there's a
history lesson, guys. That was a five minute history lesson.

(14:35):
And look at Cody's eyes clazed over. I don't know, no, no,
I'm just joking, listener. I wasn't criticizing you. I was
just like, I can ramble, dude, So my apologies.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, no, it's your pot I want to hear what
you got to say.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Well, I don't have much to say. That's why I
have guests. I can't do solos. Remember Jake, were you
doing comedy when Jake Bassie was around? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Jake bass See, he was like a Bill Bird type
of pod. He could do solo podcasts. So yeah, and
I mean I'll go back and listen to them still,
like I love his rants. Damn. This is probably the

(15:13):
third or fourth podcast I've given him a shout out.
I love it. Like Jake is just a very interesting
person when he podcast, and he can do that solo
thing and I can't. I've seen some of some of
his stuff. He's out in LA now right, Yeah, sorry
my bed. No, that's pretty cool. He's I mean, he's

(15:33):
originally from LA and he came out here for the
shutdown because LA shut down, and then did comedy here
for like a year, year and a half and then
everything opened back up in LA and went back nice,
which I mean, I'm kind of jealous, but at the
same time, I don't know if I could live in LA. Yeah,
I seem doing spots at the comedy store sometime.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's really cool. So we're proud of you here from
Oklahoma to you Jake. Yeah. I don't know if he
ever watches it, but hey, I do have one person
from California Statistics someone's listening from LA, so it's maybe
it's Jake who knows. But shout out to Jake Bassie.
We miss you. You are. We've been talking about your

(16:22):
podcast and we haven't even mentioned the name. What is
the name of your podcast, Comedic Confessions, Commedia Confession A
tongue twister.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I don't know if I love it, but that's the
name of it for now.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
And is it you have comedians on that confess a story, right.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, So the new format that I've been it's kind
of changing over time, the live show format. I'm trying
to get it to resemble the live show format a
little more because eventually I want them to just merge
and be one thing. But for right now, since we
can only do the live show like once every six
or eight weeks, by the end of the year we'll
be doing the live show once a month, and then

(16:56):
the weeks in between will kind of do like a
conversation version of the live show. So the format going
forward right now, we've been doing it one on one.
I'm going to expand it to like maybe two two,
three people on the mic will be comedians come and
they anonymously submit like confessions or stories. Okay, during the
so we all submit like two or three, we mix

(17:17):
them all up, we draw it. Whoever is it is
reads out the headline of their confession. So, like I
just did an episode with Taylor Dunn and like one
of his was I was a pimp for a night
while stationed in Guatemala. So it gets you like right away,
you're like, whoa, Okay, let's hear that story. Then he
tells it for YouTube too, Yeah, catch on, he tells it,

(17:38):
and then the other people will like react and banter
as well. So it's kind of like the live show,
but just with comedians. The live show, the audience submits
the stories.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I almost thought it was a kind of a what's
the Ari show? He had?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
This is not happening, this is not it has it
has a like when the comedians do the conversations. It
can be similar to that, like crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Story that's I saw the photos and everything. I was like,
that kind of looks like this is not happening. Kind
of like the whole setup was. But I didn't understand
how the comedians were. I didn't know if they were
coming up with their own material and coming on and
telling everyone just kind of like Ari's show, or if
like you pulled Alva bucket, which that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, that's so clever for the conversation portion. Like if
it's just a non live episode, it'll be the comedians
telling stories or for the live episode, the audience submits
stories before the show and then I host it and
we have a comedian panel, so we draw stories and
like one of the first ones from the live show,
we drew one and it was like I accidentally became

(18:39):
the third wife to a Muslim and so we're like whoa.
So we kind of riff on that for a minute,
and then we're like, who's is this? Lady stands up.
We're like, get on up here. So she sits in
the hot seat and she tells her story, and while
she's telling the story, I'm kind of like prompting her
with questions and the comedians are riffing on it. And
then after she tells her story, we kind of ask
questions the audience can throw out some comments.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
A nation ari kill Tony.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
The idea from it came from I asked my friends
who are comedy fans but not comedians, how do they
consume comedy and the three most popular answers were crowd work, clips, podcasts,
and kill Tony.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
So I just kind of made a ven diagram of like, Okay,
what do these shows have in common, how are they different?
And what elements could I use to build a show.
Plus what do I like in comedy that I could
add to this concept? And then I came up. I
had a list of like twelve different things that I
wanted for a live show, brainstormed it for a month
or so, got a concept, did a few drive runs

(19:38):
with like a couple different venues, and put together comedic confession.
So we have like, I love the anybody can come
on stage if they submit, like kill Tony vibe. So
that's how we came up with the idea of like
the pulling the submissions live during the show. Love that element. Yes,
I love the audience interaction of crowd work, and I

(19:58):
know a lot of comedians hate crowd I'm not the
biggest fan of it, but I'm like, okay, audience has
clearly crave this. What if I gave them a place
where we could do that? And then when I do
stand up, I just do stand up.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
So the idea is like, especially like your competition, I
think when you're producing a live show, isn't other live
events necessarily, it's the device in people's hand. So if
they're gonna go to a live show and I'm not
a huge name, there has to be a little more
skin in the game than like I'm gonna pay ten
bucks and see like some mediocre comedy. They're like, I'm

(20:30):
gonna pay ten bucks and I might get to be
part of the show. I might win prizes. So it's
like going to the show is gonna be a full experience. Yes,
So that's kind of how I came up with the
idea of like, Okay, if you buy a ticket to
this show and you want to be on the show,
you have a chance to It's awesome. So that's how
I came up with the element of the crowd, like
a incorporated crowd work element. And then instead of just

(20:52):
like random person in the crowd, the person you're crowd
working with is on stage and they're a part of
it too, So it's not like you have to pick
on somebody and be like, come on, give me something.
It's like, Okay, now we've primed the interaction because the
people were talking to they've already said, hey, I want
to be on the show by submitting a story, and
they've already given.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Us the juicy subject matter.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So I don't have to search around for somebody to
talk to and then try to like filter through their
life to see what's interesting. It's like they're already telling
me the most interesting thing.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It's almost a mix of.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
You got a little mix of Doctor Phil in there.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I just saw Adam Ray.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
How was it amazing? He was in Tulsa bricktown right
iro with Cale. Jordan Thompson posted something about it, and
I misunderstood. I thought she worked the show, which she did,
but not the show. She was working at the club.
Oh gotcha, gotcha? She I guess she got to meet
Adam Ray. And I saw the photo of her hugging

(21:49):
Adam Ray. I was like, congrats and DMS I was like,
that's awesome. You got to work for Adam Ray. And
she's like, oh, you were there, Adam. He's really cool.
He's really nice. Did he do any beds on Doctor
Phil or anything or yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
So he did like his normal act, and then obviously
he knows why people are there, so he did some
kind of behind the scenes Doctor Phil stuff, like told
a couple little stories as stand up bits of doing
and it was I mean, he's really good. And then
he did some new impressions and then his closer was like,
he'll do a little crowd work throughout the show, and
whoever the most interesting or wild person of the crowd
work was his closer is an impression of that person,

(22:24):
and it's really really funny, Like it's really good. So
and then he would just take like because he would
interact with the person like kind of at the beginning
of the show, a couple times in the middle, a
couple times at the end, and they would give like
little details about their life. So at the end he's like,
I'm doing an impression of Billy, the guy that works
in refrigeration. Everyone's like, oh, hell yeah, and then he
would do the impression and use all these elements that

(22:44):
the guy had said it was really impressive. Yeah, it's
like a really strong, like I say, it kind of
creates that moment where the people that bought a ticket
are like, I'm here tonight and I get to appreciate this,
Like this isn't something I could appreciate. He had just fully,
you know, seeing it online.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
As dope as fuck. I need to start seeing more.
I went and saw Bert Kreischer a few years ago,
and I was very disappointed. Really I heard he's pretty good.
He was well, he was good, he was it was
at the Criterion. It wasn't terrible, but then he came
down to the part where he started like he got
to the end of his show, so it was good.

(23:22):
And then he got to the end and he started
asking the crowd what kind of what stories do you
want to hear? And everyone's screaming stories. Yeah, and he
like he'd get halfway through the stories and he couldn't
remember the stories. Oh okay, And I mean I get it.
You made new material and everything, and your number one
seller is the Machine. We heard the Machine and now
like someone screamed Ila's period cake or whatever. He got

(23:45):
halfway through it and he's like, I don't remember how
that goes, and we we like everyone laughed, and I
was just kind of like, uh, that's funny, and I
think it was. It's just because I was like, I
put him up so high because he was one of
my favorite comedians. When I saw him, he just kind
of took a nose. Then he rose back up with
his Machine movie and that was a flop, and I

(24:06):
was like, and then I found Shane. I was like,
that's a huge yeah, And I mean Shane doing Trump
is huge. Yeah, it's pretty big. And I mean, I
just want Shane as Trump with Trump. Yeah. I don't
know if that'll happen. That would be cool though, and

(24:27):
I know it will never happen. The only way it
could happen would be on Kill Tony. And I know
Trump hates Tony because of the Puerto Rican jokes, although
a lot of Puerto Ricans agreed with him just saying
so I wouldn't make a joke about Puerto Rico and
being a garbage island.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
They should have you on there.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, I would choke on kill Tony. Yeah, I would
choke on Kill Tony. I don't know what material I
would use, and I would just choke and then Tony
would destroy me.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Tony's pretty good roaster.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
All I would come up is just like you look gay. Yeah,
It's all I could say. Got it? You sign absolutely?
Do you see Adam reyes Tony? Oh? Yeah, that was
a good episode. That was awesome. I so when you're
running these live podcast episode Mike's m do you have

(25:23):
your board in front of you while you're doing it
or are you standing in front with the mic? Or
is it like a stand up show or is it
like more of a panel show.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So there is a panel. I'm not on the panel.
I want to be the one like running the show. Okay,
so I'm up, and I mean I have a stool
to the side. It's when the person sits down. I'm
not like standing over him interviewing him. But I have
a little stool to the side. But I'm I'm up
moving around, like going out in the crowd, talking to
the DJ. I'm I've kind of experimented with it a
little bit. I would love to be able to have

(25:53):
the board with me and run it during the show.
There's just too much going on, uh, I mean, so
it's it's I have I have to hire a DJ.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Who does like the music. Do what you need a
Brian Redband?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, maybe I don't. I can't afford that, So I
have to just hire people like one off for the show.
But it would be nice if I could run the board.
But there's like different music cues, the sound levels have
to be monitored, and a couple of different kind of
like behind the scenes and the weeds things that the
DJ and the audio engineer have to like watch over
just so that the recording sounds right. And the last

(26:27):
one it sounded really bad. So we made some chance.
We made some some team changes, but uh yeah, I
would love to be able to run it myself. But
I also don't want to be like sitting behind a table.
I want the panel to kind of have their own thing,
like and they know I'm going to run the show,
and all they have to do is just like riff
on what they see.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
They don't have to worry about Yeah, yeah, okay, So
I don't do it quite like that.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
But we'll see if I keep losing money on the
live show, because that's the thing. It's like, the ticket
sales have been good, but it's so expensive to runks.
There's so many elements to it that I've still been
losing money on it. So I am I'm gonna have
to cut expenses eventually.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
But yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I haven't figured out what to cut yet.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
We've tried to run shows in a still water Tyler
Couch and I yeah, and I mean I haven't lost money,
but he has always lost money. I mean, with the
Uncle Laser come into still Water. There's a lot of
money to have him here.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Oh you guys got him on you got him on
your show.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
We got him on a show at Bad Brad's last summer,
Nice did an outdoor thing and it costs like a lot. Yeah,
and the show didn't make money or ticket sales good
or just ticket sold out. He was expensive. Yeah, and

(27:46):
then you have to pay.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Sell it out and still lose money, because that's what
we did on my last live show, was like we
sold it out, but we still lost money.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
And that you're like, damn, we have a problem. Yeah, yeah,
you're over spending and that's the issue. But yeah, yeah,
you make some cuts. It'll work out. There's no problem.
Who's trying to sneak in here? Today? We have a
guess mics. There is this gentleman gay. No, I don't

(28:16):
have a third mic. Brandon Lucas took it. Yeah, he
took the third mic. Oh, do you have a mic?
If you want to come in? I don't. I don't
think I have really a setting for you if you
want to sit.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, ten thousand live concurrent viewers on Twitch get in here.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Good to see you, sir.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
If I may say in a non homosexual way, you
smell really good, smell smell clean? And what was what
would be a non gay way to say? What's a
non gay way to say flirtatious.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Ef.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's the smell. Smells clean, an effervescent.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
You just can't leave the door open like that. He's
bringing his to stuff. I did bring a mike, but
I was just consider we're thirty minutes in, so yeah,
it wouldn't make sense for you to join two ship. Well.
I also didn't set up. I wasn't planning for a

(29:18):
third micer, so if I had, I would pointed more
directly that over there, Hey, can you rap just like
a tiny shot please? P sixteen po just Brandy, I'm

(29:46):
coming over.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Hold down the hold down the Ford Jesus not being
the sixteen hundreds. That's funny.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
What bottle was that that I got for us? The
the rose four Roses? That was a good clip too.
I got him, so, uh did was it your bottle
or my bottle? And fuck you? Yeah? I had a

(30:18):
bottle of four roses and he went to the bathroom
and I was like acting like I'm reading the bottle
and everything. He comes back and I was like, oh,
the story behind this liquor is interesting. He's like, what
do you mean. It's like, uh, four Roses is made
by Samuel d and uh. He met a Southern Bell
and proposed to her with six slaves, and he's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Hell no, whoa, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Four roses? Are you using one my books? Hm? Hm,
oh yeah, I didn't know people actually used those.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Are you gonna be at the micing a little bit perfect,
I'll see you in there.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, if I kill him first, if we murder him
live on pod Oh guest numbers? Holy shit? Fuck, I forgot.
I'm not much of a drinker. I started picking up
on drinking again, but I'm trying to not drink as much.
I will almost bought a six pack of beer just

(31:26):
because I like beer more than liquor. That's rough. Damn. Yeah,
I need to stop drinking again, dude, it's I don't
know why I drink. Oh. I was actually nervous about
this podcast, be honest. Yeah. Yeah, because you're another podcaster,
so like you will already know how it goes. So

(31:46):
I'm like, I can't manipulate you.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
What would you normally manipulate out of a guest.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I just tell you to relax, have fun with it,
don't you know. Don't worry about the pressure of like
trying to be like all the other podcasts you've watched.
Joe Rogan is a special type of podcast, Like he
has special guests that can nail certain impressions, certain jokes.
You know, if you're funny, go for it, Like I'm

(32:11):
not going to stop you from being funny. But also
I'm like, there's no pressure. It's a hangout. It's almost
like we're sitting on the front porch of a house,
drinking beers, bullshitting, watching cars pass by. Yeah, watching the
dog run away and get hit by a car. Fuck,
time to buy a new dog. Yeah, he was getting, well,

(32:34):
if we're living that way, we probably have eight more
in the back. Very true. Trailer park live, that's how
it goes. So you're shifting from you're still doing your
podcast with comedians without the live aspect of it. Yeah, explain,

(32:55):
I know you kind of explained. Explain how that works
without the crowd so they bring in stories themselves.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, So if we do it without the crowd, then
it'll just be it.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Throws me off, sorry and throws me off because it
makes a lot of sense. The crowd is writing, putting
ideas in there, so the comedians are doing it when
you're doing just your own podcast, So you have what
two or three guests because you have four my hookups.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, So we'll have a couple of guests. They'll each
put in a few stories. I'll mix them up, pull
a story out, and whichever comedians it is, we'll tell
the story while the other two of us interview and
riff with him. So it's basically because all podcasts, I
mean are some form of hey tell a good entertaining
story in some way, and so it gets us to

(33:40):
the point quicker. It starts us with a It starts
with a startss with a hook as well, like instead
of like, oh I was in middle school one time
and I did the it's like the story starts with
I ship myself with the school assembly, so like, oh, okay,
we're locked in. We know that's where we're going. And
then we can ask at the beginning of the story,
like okay, get all right, what you have to eat?

(34:00):
It was your stomach cramping when you sat down in
the gymnasium. Did you know this was gonna happen? Were
you too embarrassed to stand up and run to the
bathroom because you're in seventh grade? You got seventh grade brain?
How what did they call you? Did they call you
shit pants boy all through high school? Did you have
to transfer? Did you ever get laid again while you
were having sex with a chick? We're like, yeah, you're

(34:20):
fucking shit pants boy, you dumb bitch.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
You know like that.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
So that way you can actually like play with their
story instead of just like hope, like, oh man, this
guy's gonna talk for ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hope it's good. You know, it's like, ooh, this is good.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
We were starting real focused and it's kind of like
structured organic. It's like we don't know the story, so
we don't know where it's going, but based on this headline.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
We know it's going to be interesting as smart.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So that's how I do the Eventually, I would love
for it to just be the live show, but for
the live show to happen every week, that's that's like years.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Down the road, a lot of money. We'd have to
build a huge audience, and yeah, you need a large
audience the planet. You could shoot it here eventually too,
I mean like in this room, no, no, no, in
the big Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I've been talking to Aaron about bringing it.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Here eventually because I know your establishment that you're using now.
It's awesome. It has upstairs, because I've seen photos at
least down board. Yeah, it has a balcony. We're doing it.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
We're taking it to different venues. Oh yeah, that was
just for the first one. Okay, I've seen the first
one at least. Yeah, the first one that looked fun.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, it was. It was, uh, it was pretty good
and I liked it. Where what was the establishment.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
It's called Ultraviolet. It's an EDM club in Oklahoma City,
and so we did the first one there. Eventually, I
hope to have a rotation of like three or four
venues in Oklahma City because the plan is we get
it monthly in OKAC and then we start taking it
on the road like close by. So imagine we have
it a monthly in Okac and then we have it

(35:50):
monthly on the road and we stagger them.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So I'm doing it every two weeks.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
So the podcast goes like live episode, you know, regular episode,
live episode. Then if I can take it on the
road more and make it profitable, then maybe every week,
or maybe like do a Friday and Saturday or two shows,
and so it's still every other week, but one comes
out every week something like that.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's impressive and I would love to see it. Yeah,
that'd be cool. That's the goal.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm talking to some venues in I've got like three
and OKC that I'm gonna do it at. I'm talking
to Aaron about maybe doing it here. There's more of
like an Edmund spot, and then there's a couple of
places in Tulsa, a place in Latin, place in Wichita.
So I've got enough venues where if I can figure
out how to make it profitable, and there's still some
equipment that I don't own that I have to use
at the venues, So if I can make it profitable

(36:36):
enough to buy some of this equipment, the equipment speA yeah,
a better mixer because I have to be able to
route speakers mult of five or six microphones.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
This doesn't necessarily do it.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, So it's got to be an actual mixer where
I'm routing the speakers, five or six microphones, two crowd mics,
and the DJ board all in and I'm tuning each
of those audio levels and it's recording to a hard drive.
So instead of just like a mic in the room,
I'm recording the native audio from the mikes and the
laughter from the crowd mic. So I can mix and
master that and get like a true excellent audio track,

(37:12):
and then I can just sync the video angles to
that good deal. So I need to I'll need some
better cameras I would need if I want to have
the whole thing in the house I would have. I
would need speakers, a mixer, better cameras, and I have
most of the mikes, but I probably upgrade the crowd
mics a little bit to be like shotgun mics I
can mount on the wall.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I know what you mean. Yeah, I've been thinking about
all that stuff as well. Nice. I mean, I instead
of shooting off an iPhone, I want to get a
U And it's expensive, a black Magic Oh yeah, those
are expensive. I found one for eight hundred. Yeah, and
it's just the smallest version and it's only the camera,
so I don't want to know how much. The lenses. Yeah,

(37:52):
the lenses are where they get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, Oh, that's fucking bullshit.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
You ever do Comedy Avenue out in Lawton. The guy
that runs it, he.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Has Aaron Peters Andrew Patterson.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
He has a really good setup, Like his cameras look
great and he's got it really well set up.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
So he could probably give you some advice on the cameras.
I think Andrew donated to the podcast before when I
read Lenny van Horn on a long time ago. Hell yeah,
so shout out to him. And also I've invited him
on my podcast, but I didn't realize he was in
a lot in that.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, he lives like an hour and a half away,
so it's kind of tough for him to make it.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
And I wasn't stillwhere at the time, so that's even
oh yeah, long further away. And then I had Matt
Farrell Farrell, yeah, yeah, Matt and I talked about it,
never got around to post in his episode. My apologies, Matt.
It's called depression and having lack of faith in you
and myself. And then after Matt, I had Aaron White on,

(38:53):
and Aaron actually was the reason I'm still here, to
be honest, like doing this because like I saw his
post on Facebook about opening a comedy club or you know,
a comedy dance hall. Yeah, I wanted to be one
of the first to get him on the podcast to
do it. I think Jared Allen was one of the

(39:13):
first to beat me to it, but then I had
him on and I was kind of embarrassed because if
you see Jared Allen stuff, he has like the video
monitor that can switch back and forth. He's impressive when
it comes to podcasting, and eventually I want to get
to that point, but without me switching it with someone behind,
you know. But Aaron was the one that kind of

(39:36):
saved the podcast because when he said, yeah, we're gonna
have a green room and we're gonna do like where
podcasts can be done, and I was like, Okay, I
think I'm back in. And ever since this place has
opened up, I've almost been here every Monday, or you know,
if I've had backup episodes, then I'll skip a Monday

(39:56):
or whatnot, and you know, keep on doing it. But
Aaron saved the podcast. If it wasn't for him, then
I think I'd still be doing it in my garage,
but just like every three months or something, you know,
just not as much because I hate asking people to
drive to still Water. Yeah that is a tough ask,
you know, because I asked you once and I think

(40:18):
you had car trouble. Maybe that was Adrian show or
something was probably the issue and we just had miscommunications.
So yeah, it's difficult for I mean, I'm blessed for
the people that have driven to still are. Don't get
me wrong, thank you for doing that. But as well,
I'm like, I'm blessed because of Aaron doing this that

(40:40):
you know, I wouldn't call myself the flagship podcast of
the of the Comedy Club. But at the same time,
I'm posting every like every video from now on, I
have twisters in a corner or something, just to keep
it promoted. It's like, I thank you to Aaron the end,
at the end of every episode, at like the very

(41:02):
last thing you'll see on there is like shot at
Chisholm Creek, you know, and the the address and you
know all that I want to pay as much tribute
to this place and Aaron and raz and just they've
given me the greatest opportunity to do this. That's really cool.
And depression is a real thing, bro, you know, so

(41:24):
when you go through it thinking, you know, oh, my
podcast is not going anywhere because I get in my
head I'm shooting off an iPhone, like I see like
Joe and Joe Rogan and THEO shooting off fucking seventeen
hundred dollars cameras and they have four or five cameras
each of them.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You know, I just don't think that shit matters. That's
where I different for me. I just don't think that
shit matters at all.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I need to get it out of my head. Yeah,
and get it to the point where it You're right,
it doesn't matter people are gonna watch it or not
watch it.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
It doesn't matter audio quality, Like the audio quality.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Does have to be pretty audio. I'll admit, yes, because
you're production values not that important now, not until you
get to the thousands or whatnot. I would yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
I mean even then if it's like, if it's working,
I guess you don't, like if you like you're talking
about like Shane Gillis is like your guy. Yeah, like
their production value is horrible. Oh yeah, So I would
say if you're looking.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
To make you do what you do basically like you said,
mics and everything.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, you said that's your guy. Just model yourself after that.
You don't need to invest another time, just like build
what you.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Have mat and Shane's Secret podcast check it out thursdays.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, I would say, model yourself after that. There's no
need to invest all this money just to like compare
yourself to theo vonn or Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
It's like those guys you know have money, they have
deals with Spotify, et cetera. We're just here doing our
own thing. My dad bought me the board like I
would for my birthday purchase.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
The board is the most important because I have my
mics are not very good, but because the board's good,
they it makes them sound good.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Your MIC's are fine, dude. I like your mics, know
what I'm saying. They're They're only twenty five bucks. Did
you get them at Guitar Center or whatnot.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I got them on sweetwater dot com during like a
clearance of the water. They had like some Xyringer mics
and it was just like basic dynamic handteld mics. And
from what I gathered, if you have a good interface,
you can get away with a not great mic if
you're in like a good sound quality room. And so
I just got like some average mics and they work

(43:21):
just fine.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Where do you shoot your podcast? If you don't mind
me asking, You're at my parents' house here, yeah, because
I was nosing like this isn't too different from your studio. Well,
I mean the curtains, but the color I knows the
background and everything. I was like, that's a cool setup.
But at the same time, I was like, where is
he shooting this? That is interesting.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
It was my childhood bedroom and I turned it into
the studio, so I just emptied it out, hung some
curtains on the walls. A friend gave me like this
little couch from his tattoo studio, found a match in
one on Facebook Marketplace, found a little table at Target,
and then got the mics on I think Facebook market
Play was years ago. I got the mics and then
just kind of put it together. But yeah, it's like

(44:00):
it's I mean, it serves its perfect, it doesn't I
kind of wish I had done less, because like, it
just doesn't matter as much as I thought it did
at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
I guess not. But I mean, I will openly admit
your studio drew my eye. That's what really made me
start watching your material. I was like, but maybe it's
because of the mind of a podcaster, so I'm not
necessarily paying attention to your content, but I'm looking into
what you're using and what your background is. Like godha,
that's why I watched podcasts. If I listen to podcasts,

(44:30):
I can actually get into podcasts, but like, if I'm
watching it, I'm like, that's a cool setup with the
you know, like especially with Jared Ralfie, Like I look,
I'm like, oh, that's a cool he's got to set up, dude,
with the action figures and everything.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
He's got like his a whole like production desk.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, dude, it's awesome. Yeah, and it's nerdy just like me.
I love cool. Like if I actually had my own studio,
it wouldn't necessarily be action films figures, but it'd be
comic books just hanging on. I'm a big comic book freak,
Like I love comic books. I just picked up a
Deadpool Wolverine Deadpool number three, and then I picked up

(45:07):
Crypto number.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Two issue very nice.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I'm excited. I bought it from New World Comics, and
the guy at the cashiers like, okay. I got asked,
did you see the new Superman movie? I was like,
I fucking hate Superman. He's like what. I was like,
I'm just not a DC fan. I'm not a big
fan about d C. I don't like Batman, and he's like,
so why the Crypto? It was like, I love dogs.
There we go and he's like, all right, fair enough,

(45:32):
and he's like, the comic con is coming up on
August sixteenth. I'm like, oh nice, and he's like, we
have dog adoption eight, you know, adoption at At the
same day, I was like, my wife will kill me,
but fuck it, I might be coming home with a
go and retriever if they have one. Cool, but can
you shut the fuck up? Superman is a bitch. Rypto

(46:00):
is the best. I said it. Don't shut off my god? Damn. Okay, yeah,
I saw you going for the bar, the power Bar.
I was like, don't you goddamn ah, no, you just
walk off. Uh where about do you have anything promote?

(46:23):
Not really, honestly, I mean you have any shows coming
out or anything.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
I mean I have some shows coming up.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
You said this will come out August eleventh.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Now I got edited that yet out, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Oh, I was gonna say if it comes out that day,
be fine to leave in then yeah. I mean the
Blue Whale Fest and then the Game of Roast.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, so I'll be on. The fest is big. You're
just like, oh, I don't have much. That's a big
fucking deal.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, so we'll do the Blue Whale Comedy Fest that's
in Tulsa the weekend of like the fourteenth through the sixteenth, I.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Think, And then I have a show.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
The weekend after that, remember what it is.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
See this is where the comedians always get stumbled.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
And then August twenty ninth, the next game of roast
at Twisters that I'm pumped for. Brandon, are you on
the panel for that one? Okay, okay, cool?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I might actually try and make that one and actually
record it. It'd be nice. It's two Well, I had
to work Friday night Father that was crazy, Big guy
Dallas Cowboys fan former Matthewser obviously wait, hold on, hold on.
Is he the one that's part of Austin's group? Yeah, yeah, okay,

(47:38):
I don't even call them a group. I called them
a klan, the dipads.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
There's like forty of them now, the fucking and they
finally kicked a guy out. That was dramatic. Do you
hear about that? That is funny I heard, I propose
It's kind of all I heard too, but I think
it's very funny.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I prematurely proposed an idea to Aaron that you know
how Adam Ray and you know Shane are doing impressions.
My best impression I can do is Alex Jones and
I just randomly thought and shot an idea to Aaron
for a rumble, just like the show's making you gay,

(48:17):
Like you know, like this show, like just go into
a rant, crash it with like a wireless mic and
just like eventually become a panelist, but like you know,
wear the makeup and everything. But after asking chat GPT
and Grock on how Shane and Adam started those, Adam
started Doctor Phil off of his podcast, which I didn't realize,

(48:40):
and then Shane just used Trump material for his specials.
I have nothing about Alex Jones throughout my podcast. I've
listened to quite a few of my podcasts and I've
done the only ones I've done were deleted because of
me that were on the Highness and Boozer and Boozer.

(49:01):
In one of those episodes, Brandon walked off. Damn rip
Heyness and Boozer. It's coming back. Yeah. I do all
the episodes because I thought I was gonna start it
over and you know what we are starting and over
there we go. First episode, first episode coming in August

(49:21):
there right there, where can we find you? Social media,
all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Just my name Cody Troutman or comedic confessions for the
podcast if you want to check that out.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Nice. How do you end your podcast? Usually Mike and
say thank you for being a bad friend.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
No.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I usually just say like, we'll see you next week,
and then I do like a salute and then the
music comes in.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Okay, look into Mike and do what you do when
we say look into the mike, looking into the camera
and say what you say at the end of.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Your say like, dude, like your part are just like mine.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Just like yours, just like mine. But I'd like, do
you say like you know just what you do?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Folks, this has been the Healey Cast. We'll see you
next week.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
See you guys, right, Hello, Mark Trotter, how are you hey?
I'm good? How are you good? Welcome to the Healing Cast.
Don't hey Freeman, what's going on? How do you do
it good? How are you good? Hello? Marty? Oh hey buddy?

(50:32):
What's up man? How are you doing next? How are
you doing? What's your real name? What's your government name?
That is my first question. I'm just gonna go right
off the bat and just JJ Wood, what's up? A
long time listener, first time guest. I'm excited to be here.
All have headphones now? Good? Yeah? See right, guy Healey,
what year were you born?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Ninety seven?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Ninety six?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
See al right, technically you're a nineties baby, but you
missed half of it,
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