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Bill, Terri, John, & Pastor Ryan continue their look at what is one of the most popular "proofs" of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture offered by those who promote this doctrine: the notion that John's depiction of being called up to Heaven in Revelation 4:1-2 is symbolic of the Body of Christ being Raptured before the start of the Great Tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist. In this episode: Who are the 144,000 in Revelation 7 who are supernaturally "sealed" for protection from God's wrath just before the Great Tribulation begins? Revelation chapter 7 seems to indicate that the 144,000 are "Jewish" -- all from the Twelve Tribes of Israel -- but is there more going on here than immediately meets the eye? Are there any other hints in the Book of Revelation about the identity of this very important group -- a group that is clearly depicted as being on Earth during the Great Tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist?
This podcast regularly discusses these topics: Bible Study, eschatological, end of the world, End Times, Last Days, Book of Revelation, Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Post-Tribulation Rapture, Rapture, Great Tribulation, Second Coming, Third Temple, Second Coming of Christ, the Antichrist, Abomination of Desolation, Two Witnesses, Four Horsemen, Apocalypse, Israel
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These Final Days Ministries: www.TheseFinalDays.org
Bill, Terri, John, & Pastor Ryan continue their look at what is one of the most popular "proofs" of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture offered by those who promote this doctrine: the notion that John's depiction of being called up to Heaven in Revelation 4:1-2 is symbolic of the Body of Christ being Raptured before the start of the Great Tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist. In this episode: Who are the 144,000 in Revelation 7 who are supernaturally "sealed" for protection from God's wrath just before the Great Tribulation begins? Revelation chapter 7 seems to indicate that the 144,000 are "Jewish" -- all from the Twelve Tribes of Israel -- but is there more going on here than immediately meets the eye? Are there any other hints in the Book of Revelation about the identity of this very important group -- a group that is clearly depicted as being on Earth during the Great Tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist?
This podcast regularly discusses these topics: Bible Study, eschatological, end of the world, End Times, Last Days, Book of Revelation, Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Post-Tribulation Rapture, Rapture, Great Tribulation, Second Coming, Third Temple, Second Coming of Christ, the Antichrist, Abomination of Desolation, Two Witnesses, Four Horsemen, Apocalypse, Israel
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That was Zach Williams and looking for you along with
Dolly Parton on your Celebration Radio network. And good Friday morning.
We're at nineteen minutes after the hour, and I have
my gang in the studio this morning. I guess I'll
call you a gang thanks to gangs. Good pastor, Ryan,
(00:21):
John and Terry here in the studio with me this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And we could be like Bill's sweat Hogs. That a reference.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Horseshack and yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, welcome back Codder there. Yeah, we are really aging
our Wow, tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Wow, that's the seventies man. Yeah my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, played the song welcome back, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
John Travolta, Oh yeah, Vinny Barberino, Barbarino.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I just had a birthday yesterday, so yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
To the fifty seven's.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, and uh, you guys are also young and that's something.
So my new favorite cars of fifty seven Chevy, my
new favorite condiment. It wasn't before seven. I don't know, okay,
I'm just trying to make a topical. My new age.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Fifty seven is pretty good actually, and yeah, you know,
fifty seven Chevy is like the ultimate classics.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, so that is. And if you're in your fifties,
you'll remember the show Welcome Back Home. See how that
works out.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, all right, Well, we've got a bunch of stuff
to get to today that we're going to be talking about. Yeah,
and I know that, uh we had a call off
air last last show.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
By uh Dwayne Wayne, right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Dwayne, and he asked a bunch of questions and and
we're going to get into that today. But also, you know,
there's a lot of stuff that's going on in the
world that doesn't get reported. Thankful for I am very
thankful for CBN. That's Christian Broadcasting News, and they do
(02:07):
a lot of what the world is talking about. But
they also do stuff that gets skipped because.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Because it's like nice news. It's good.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's good stuff that's happening, right, like a revival that
grips Brazil's Amazon. Wow, they baptized fourteen thousand, five hundred
people this year so far, really in the last six months.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, right about it. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's in the Amazon River basin in the northwest Brazil,
and profound spiritual transformation is holding in the Amazon, and
it's it's pretty incredible. If you go to CBN News
you be able to look that up and read it.
It's it's really long. But there's been a missionary in
(02:51):
the in the basically the jungle for the last thirty
two years that's been spreading the gospel. And he was
the main the main guy that was talking to CBN
and giving that update. So in the last six months,
they've baptized fourteen thousand, five hundred people.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, and that's something.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So that's over two thousand people a month.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean just you know, those numbers are like there
there aren't churches here that are doing that, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And it's not like a super populous area. There's not like,
you know, millions of people living there.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Right right, we're talking the Amazon.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean that you know, like very small, Yeah,
Triss Communities area very small. So that's a big percentage.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well it is. It's very cool. Another revival at Texas
A and M. Corpus Christi fifteen hundred we're in attendance.
Sixty two were baptized at Texas A and M. So
another thing that's uh, and when they say another revival,
this is like still streaming from the as very revival
(03:55):
from last year, right, So yeah, it's been going on
and it's still going on at campuses right, not only
in our country but elsewhere. They baptized him in the fountain. Wow,
that's cool, is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's pretty cool? And then have you do you guys
know who Russell Brand is? Of course British.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Actor, yeah, comedian yeah, yeah, actor.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He kneels in prayer against darkness and demonic forces at
a major event. Wow, he is a Christian?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Nice. So I've actually be well not just that, but
I've actually been like catching a lot of Hisarlson interview
he was on it. Yeah, but also he has been
coming up on my you know Facebook wheals very much.
And I mean he's a real evangelist and you know,
you know you can tell like, you know, we're all
filled with the Holy spirits that helps us Troy discern.
But but he's got it. He's like seriously filled with
(04:44):
the Holy Spirit and and getting the gospel out there
and yeah, people are listening, so pretty amazing. Yeah, and
he and he was born you know maybe maybe not
like like if I was going to guess who was
going to become a Christian, he wouldn't have been like
at the top of the list.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Right right exactly because he was he was an atheist.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. So and then now, you know, I
had a certain persona that was kind of you know that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And another another interesting fact. I found this super interesting
because I just loved this guy, Barrick Grills.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Who he is, that the survivor guy, you know, British
Special Forces celebrity. You know, he takes people into the
wilderness and you know, and he's had a show on
like Discovery Channel for a really long time. He's the
guy that baptized him Russell Brandow. Yeah, because Barrick Grills
is a devout Christian and he's got devotionals and you know,
(05:42):
just all kinds of stuff. So pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, And this is what the body of Christ needs
to really be aware of paying attention to, is that,
you know, we can get so caught up in the
darkness out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's why I didn't want to talk about it that today.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, but look at what's happening on the on you know,
on God side of this. The dark gets darker in
these last days. Light its light, and what do all
these baptisms have to do with the end times, you guys.
Chapter two, Yeah, yeah, you know for sure. Yeah, in
the next chapter two, but all of a discourus Jesus
Great in Times dissertation Matthew, Chapter twenty four, verse fourteen.
(06:19):
And this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world,
and then the end will come. And so what what
you know we're talking about here this morning? You know,
Bill houses these amazing news items. This is literally a
sign of the end times from Jesus himself. When this happens,
then the end will come. So which is kind of funny, like,
(06:39):
does that mean you want the end of the world
to come? Yes, just give the bloody we do, because
that means I mean back, coming back, So yeah, I
want to live in His kingdom. That's right. And it
doesn't mean the end of this world or the people
or nature. It means the end of this world system.
That r that's all that. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, So that's good that you clarified that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So yeah, the world blowing upcular war.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is gonna happen, you know, blah blah blah. So yeah,
we wanna we wanna definitely clarify that uh, when Jesus
comes back. Listen that thousand years that the earth won't
be destroyed until.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
After Yeah, and it's not even destroyed, it's just.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That well he said, it's going to be consumed by
fire if we're trying to keep it positive. But see,
that's that's the thing though, None of us that you know,
our followers and believers in Jesus are gonna have to
worry about that fire.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Right, that's well, I mean, I mean, you know, by
that time, that'll be you know again, like you just said,
at the end of the millennial reign of Christ, will
spend a thousand years in our glorified bodies, by the way, right,
helping Jesus to restore the earth. I think back to
God's original plan, you know, the Garden of Eden. Once
we've accomplished that, then kind of the reward for that,
I think is that God makes a new earth, new
(08:00):
have in new Jerusalem, which I'm assuming is going to
be like better even you know, more fantastic than anything
we could ever imagine. So you know, what's he going
to do? Probably take us all off the earth here,
let me remake it. Okay, now you're back, So I
mean of course.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I mean it's only it's not even going to be
a weak vacation for it because he did it the
first time in six days.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So yeah, that's true. I could hang out for six
days up in Heaven, you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, they probably have you know, a good beach up there,
and you know, crystal really good food.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I won't have to worry about calories.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's it. Glorified bodies. Man, You what you want?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Looking forward to it?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm quickly figure anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I wonder if are we all going to have six packs?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Anyway? I'm praying for an eight pack, but okay, I'll
take a three packs.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I just take any instead of what I've got now
one hundred seven two one nine three one three one
eight hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen. And when
we come back, we'll dive into this. We're gonna get
into the one hundred and forty four thousand and so
much more.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Stay's gonna be a good one eight.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Hundred seven two one nine three one three one eight
hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen. Megan Woods is
up next. It's called The Truth on Your Celebration Radio
Network Good morning, Your Celebration Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Good morning Bill. This is Barbara from T Your Cry
Barbara Good, good good. There was a song that just played.
It was wonderful.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's Megan Woods. Megan Woods, Megan Meghan okay, and the
last name is Woods okay, and it's called the Truth.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, oh my gosh, that is so anointed. I've never
heard it before.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, it's uh, we've had it, I think for a
couple of weeks now, but in our rotation, so it's
you know, periodically throughout the day, so you know, but yeah,
it's I play on it, I repeat at home multiple times.
It's yeah, really really good.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Going to do that here at my home too. Thank
you for sharing and playing it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh, you're very welcome. Yeah, you can look her up
on YouTube. She's got some other music too, but she's
a fairly new artist and that's the only song that
she's released for able for us to download. So hopefully
she'll have an album out soon.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Amen. Yeah, thank you, please, you're very welcome. Thanks. Okay,
I'm bye.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Cody Cahns. Take you at your word on Your Celebration
Radio Network. The phone number again eight hundred and seven
two one nine three three one eight hundred seven two
one ninety three thirteen in the studio with me this morning,
Pastor Ryan, John and Terry and we were talking about
last show, the one hundred and forty four thousand, and
(10:54):
we had a phone call off air after the show
ended from brother Dwayne, and he asked a lot of
really great questions.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Lots of questions. Yeah, in fact, and then John went
through this last week and he transcribed the.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Whole Yeah, he listened to the podcast and got all
that because that's included in the podcast or the phone calls.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And yeah, so extra points for John for all that
hard work. Yeah, no, that's helpful. That's good. Yeah, No,
gold star, though I'm looking for gold stars. I had
to glide gold stars. It was going to be since
you asked, so, Terry and I would compete for those
in his class. He'd always give out gold stars everybody.
But what what's the big deal about one hundred and
(11:37):
forty four thousand? I mean, why would Dwayne call with
all these questions? And John, you actually had questions to
last last show? I remember, so yeah, so what what's
the controversy here? What's what? You know? What do we care?
Who the one hundred and forty four thousand are well.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Scripture tells us that they mentioned the tribes, you know,
and twelve thousand from this tribe, twelve thousand from that tribe.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, you know, and it goes through.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But like you pointed out, not all of them are
actual tribes of Jacob of Israel.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, which gives us a hint that maybe this is
a little bit symbolic. Yeah, right, But again, who cares
are the you know, because because you know Dwayne, what
he's been taught, I think what most of us have
been taught over the years is at thee hundred and
forty four thousand, they're Jews. These are Jews. And but
but I'm saying, no, they're one hundred not just Jews.
(12:28):
The one hundred and forty four thousand symbolize all of
God's Covenant people, Old Covenant and New Kevenant, so it
includes Jews, but it also includes Christians. So, Terry, why
why is that a controversial statement that I just made.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Because a lot of people think that we're not going
to be here when this whole one hundred and forty
four thousand part comes to pass.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's correct, Okay, So so so what you're saying, then,
is that according to the book Revelation. The reason this
is a topic an issue question is because Revelation depicts
the one hundred and forty four thousand as being on
earth during the Great Tribulation and the crisis. So if
if what I'm saying is accurate, right, then the hun
(13:08):
then that means unequivocally, I mean, we can't you know,
it's you can't debate it right that Christians will be
on earth throughout the Great Tribulation, the ring of the Antichrist.
So how do we know? So Revelation chapter seven, John,
where does that take place in the timeline of the
in time story?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
So as you're reading it, you have the seals that
are being broken, correct, which already thinks that's you know,
we're not here for any of the seals and all
that stuff going on. So you have the first six
seals have been broken. After the six how many company
seals altogether?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Seven? Okay? And these are seals like like you go
down to a harbor. Yeah, they're on the dogs, barking
like dogs. These are like seals on a scroll. They're
like what do you call those?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
The old the old the old school, the wax seal
they put on things, so it's like the wax seals
are being broken on this scroll and as each.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
One, the king would use this ring to seal it official.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Right, so you had the six those six first six seals,
which was you know, the Arrival of.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The Conqueror, that was the guy on the RS. Yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Conflict on Earth was the next one. Scarcity on Earth,
widespread death on Earth. Fifth seal was the Cry of
the Martyrs. So everybody's saying, when are you going to
avenge us? Then the six Seals. There's a cosmic disturbance,
so something has hot cosmically and right now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, there is a disturbance in the sky. And I
actually just taught on the sixth seal just in my
last class one week ago. You know, the go to
these Final Days dot org and click on you know,
the YouTube link and you can see my my latest
class actually taught on the sixth Seals. So the six
Seals pertinent because again there's there's this scroll that that's
introduced in Revelation chapter five that only Jesus can open.
(14:49):
This is some like there's seven seals on it, the
first four, the four Horsemen of the apocalypse. So so,
according to my estimation, the four horsemen are already riding
and the fifth Seal takes place in heaven. We can't
really measure that. So that means that the sixth Seal
is actually the very next thing to happen on the timeline. Yeah,
you know right, and they can happen.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
It just really throws a wrench in the whole thing
because you keep thinking, well, we weren't going to be
here for these seals.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But I just so, yeah, that's that's what people have
taught that because they because they teach I think mistakenly
that the sick that the seventh Seals are part of
the Great Tribulation, but they're not. That's there before, because
this scroll with the seven seals is God's decree of
judgment upon this world system. When that seventh Seal is broken,
(15:35):
Jesus unfurls the scroll, that's when the Great Tribulation begins.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
So so here's here's another issue. People always refer back
to when John was caught up, when he was in
heaven to witness all these things. They say that is
where their rapture is representing, representing the rapture occurring.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Right, which is for yeah, which is the larger context
that we're right in the middle of here, right right,
So that that's the question we're addressing, you know, is
that true? So real quick, Terry, go and read the
very first verse or two verses of the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to
show his servants the things that must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to a servant, John,
who bore witness to the word of God and to
the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Excellent. Okay, So right at the very beginning of the
Book of Revelation, John or Jesus, because this is Jesus revelation.
It's not Jesus being revealed. I'm he is. But this
is a revelation that God gave to Jesus to show
to us. That's what it clearly says. And it's about
actual things, things which must shortly take place, and he
sent and signified them. The word signify means what to
(16:44):
present symbolically. So this is our key given write in
verse one of the book to tell us how properly
to approach this question of who are the one hundred
and forty four thousand, So a lot to this. We're
going to go to some music or whatever. Bill, I
see Bill's music. Finger of the controls there.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Say the number again? Eight hundred seven two one nine
three one three one, eight hundred seven two one ninety
three thirteen. John Reddick up next with Don't Fight Alone
on your Celebration Radio Network. Yeah, My Light by Colton
Dixon on your Celebration Radio Network. It's twelve and a
half minutes after the hour. And in the studio with
(17:24):
me this morning. If I turned their mics on anyway, Hey, hey,
got sorry. Pastor Ryan, John and Terry are in the
studio with me this morning, and we're going to be
getting into the one hundred and forty four thousand. Yeah,
Pastor Ryan, so tell us what that What does that mean? Okay,
one hundred and four thousand.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So again, so why is this important? Because we're talking
about the timing of the rapture? Right? So, so this
question who were one hundred and forty four thousand? This
is going to help us answer this incredibly huge controversial
question in today's church, right, Yeah, whether or not the
Body of Christ is going to be on Earth, the
Great Tribulation, the antichristis or in heaven during that time. Right,
(18:03):
So pre tribulation rapture or what we teach on this show, right,
not necessarily to reflective views and et cetera of the
State Management and Statiment staff. Yeah, yes, we teach a
post tribulation rapture because we believe that's right. So here's
the thing. The one hundred and forty four thousand, like
like John you know very well, you know pointed out
in the last segment, they are depicted right toward the
(18:26):
end of this period that's leading up to the Great Tribulation, right,
So so this is an event that takes place. So
so chapter seven oops, yeah, I'll get to it. So
chapter seven is is right before the Great Tribulation starts.
It actually starts in chapter eight. Okay, So even if
the one hundred and forty four thousand, as to put
it in chapter seven includes Christians, like I'm saying, you know,
(18:51):
so what this this isn't the tribulation period yet, right. Well,
here's the thing though, is that is that what happens
to the to the one hundred and forty four thousand
in chapter seven field they're sealed for what? For protection
from what? From the things that are going to happen
for God? The plagues that God sends. And do you
guys remember from the last show two weeks ago? Are
(19:12):
there any examples or that? So we actually do you
guys remember? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yes, yes, yeah, excellent, hitting everyone except those who are sealed.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right, so that the Great Tribulation begins with the seven trumpets? Okay,
so these trumpets, uh, depict God's plagues that he sends
upon the ear to begin this period that we call
the seven year Great Tribulation, right, and and the fifth trumpets,
so that's well into the tribulation period is a plague
of locus. You'll find that in Revelation chapter nine, and
it's specifically said that the locus are commanded not to
(19:46):
harm any green thing or the grass of the field,
which tells us they actually locus, not coppers or whatever,
but only those who do not have the seal of
God on their foreheads. So so now what as I
tell you? Okay, well, if those who are sealed in
chapter seven get raptured and they're up in heaven, why
are these locusts commanded not to hurt them? It wouldn't
(20:06):
make sense, And.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Why would we be sealed if we're just going to
be rapture and take it up?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Very good, excellent, excellent, because we're sealed right before these
four angels that are holding back all these forces, these
natural forces, you know, you know, God says, you know,
don't don't release those forces, don't unleash the Great Tribulation
until first this angel goes around the earth and seals
and Terry, excellent point, Like, why would we need to
be sealed for protection from these things if we're not
going to be here for these says? So clearly we
(20:32):
see that the one hundred and forty four thousand remain
on Earth throughout at least the beginning of the Great
Tribulation period, right the first half.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
But again those places going back to how do we
know that these are just not the Jews, that we're
not here?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So, you know, Terry again read the verses that start
the mcgre about how this is real stuff, but it's
presented symbolically. Do we see any hints here, you guys
that the that the one hundred and forty four thousand,
as depicted in chapter seven in Revelation, that this is
this is not to be taken literally maybe this is symbolic. Well,
(21:04):
let's take a look at it.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
It says, you know, it goes through and talks about
the four whims, and everything goes through, and then he
names them and he calls them the tribe of the
Sons of Israel, which people immediately assume that's the Jews.
But then you go through and read them, right, so
you have the tribe of Judah, Yeah, the tribe of Reuben,
gad Asher, Neftali, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, Benjamin. And
(21:28):
then they throw instead of the tribe of Dan, which
they completely go off the lifts, they throw Manassa in there,
the son of Joseph.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Right, grandson of Isaac, Yes, exactly, So you have one
of Joseph's sons, Nassa, but you also have Joseph listed right,
Joseph is listed there. So if you're going to have Nassa,
why wouldn't you just leave out Joseph and put an
Eph room. Yeah, which those were his two sons that
kind of were split into like two separate tribes in
a sense, but not really right, it's the tribe of Joseph.
(21:57):
H So what what tribe has left out of this
whole list, which is rely bizarre. D the tribe of Dan?
And what do we know about the tribe Dan. We're
going to get into that one these o. Yeah, it's
another big topic. Yeah, So why why wouldn't tribe of
Dan be left out of this enumerates? This never happens
anywhere else in the entire Bible. I'm going to see
the twelve tribes of Israel listed. You never see it
listed like this. Why is Dan left out?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Somewhere in the Old Testament talks about the any Christ
comes from the tribe of Dan.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
There's zero ques. I cannot remember which vers in I listen,
there's a lot to it. So it actually starts in
Genesis chapter three, still in the garden, God's curse on
the serpent. It's we get it we And then we
connect that to Jacob's blessings on his sons in Genesis
chapter forty nine. And when he gets to Dan, he
actually calls him a serpent, by the way, connecting him
(22:44):
back to that prophecy that God gave to Satan in
the garden about the anti Christ. Wow, and then Jeremiah
tells us that the anti Christ is going to come
from Dan. But he says it in an excitedly kind
of symbolic, kind of kind of you know, esoteric way.
But hey, we've got this guy, my favorite guy outside
the Bible. Aaronais, Oh, yeah, who was the disciple of
(23:06):
Polycarpuho was a disciple of John the Apostle himself, who
wrote the Book of Revelation. And Arnais tells us in
his amazing work against heresies, right, this huge book published
in the year eighty one eighty he just says it literally, verbatim.
I'm not paraphrasing here, he says. And we know that
the anti Christ literally used the word will come from
(23:27):
the tribe of Dan, literally says the tribe of Dan.
And this is why Dan is left out of the
enumeration of the tribes in the Book of Revelation. Boom,
my tron. So this is why Dan's left out, because
the Antichrist is going to come from the tribe of Dan. Okay,
Ephram is left out, by the way, because the tribe
of Dan became apostate. We read about that in the
(23:48):
Old Testament, you know quite a bit. First kings, right,
became apostate when they were given a false idol by
an Ephramite. So the tribe of Ephraim is apostate the
tribe Dan. It's really a postiate. You guys have no idea.
I mean I've been tracking this, tracking him down for
like a year and a half, two years now, right, Yeah, anyways,
So and then also just this idea of one hundred
(24:10):
and forty four thousand. Listen, Yeah, that number should jump
out at any of us who are old enough to
study like regular math back in school. Remember remember the
number one hundred and forty four on the multiplication table.
That's twelve times twelve. That's the last that's the biggest
number on the most hit that we all memorize. So
you know, when we see that, it's like, yeah, one
hundred and forty four, that feels and then an even thousand,
(24:32):
and then it lists these twelve tribes, not even the
correct tribes, and twelve thousand from each one. It's so
precise that, you know, you know, if you're tempted to
take it literally, just consider for a second, maybe there's
something symbolic going on here. Yeah, you know. The first thing, yes,
it does say the tribes of Israel, no getting around that.
(24:53):
The very strong indication that this is talking about Jews
the nation of Israel, and it is.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Not always also talking about Christians, because as we're grafted
into the tribe of Israel, the Israel as a whole right,
so Israel could also be Christians.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Paul calls us the Israel of God. Paul says, he
he who is like a Jew outwardly is you know,
not necessarily a true Jew, but he who is a
Jew inwardly, who have our heart circumcised talking about Christians.
So there's all this other stuff that would actually connect
us in But you know what all that is like
too much Like it feels like me tap dancing here.
(25:32):
I'm trying to convince you know, this has to include Christians.
So what should we do? Some more music and yeah,
we need to Okay, and then when we come back,
I'm gonna prove it, well, John, John, the Apostles gonna
prove it. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
One eight hundred seven, one ninety three one three, eight
hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen. But The Cross
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Good Morning, Your Celebration Radio Network.
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Hey, good morning, good morning. Hey, I can press Scift Valley. Yes,
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Speaker 2 (26:09):
One, and that's our goal.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's an amazing first segment with Pastor Ryan his associates,
and you so enjoyed and enjoy the program. Hey, is
there a way to predict what time or what fridays
the program will be on the air? Is it like
the second and forced Friday of each month?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's usually every other week, so every two weeks, every
other week.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Typically unless one of us or more of us are
going out of town. But yeah, typically every two weeks.
And the show starts at about six fifteen am and
goes tell about eight am.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Right right, I've caught that. I just just didn't know
the time, you know, right there, and you didn't want
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the air. That's Bill. I'm the guy that has been
blessed with the seventy nine Volkswagen Westphali.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah right now, Oh yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, it's stored in Montana at a farmer's garage, a
spare garage. Hopefully that I prayed that angels would keep
the mice away from the wiring for the last four
and a half months. But we're going to continue. We're
gonna so traveling mercies. We're gonna get in that bus.
I get to see two presidential libraries in the Midwest,
(27:24):
the Harry Truman one and Herbert Hoover in Iowa, the
other side of Iowa. And but first we'll go through
Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota and he has
a visitor center but not a presidential library. But anyways,
traveling mercies for two senior citizens. Shall we say, okay,
(27:45):
traveling in a Volkswagen bus and all I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Right, all right, right, yeah, God Blast.
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Yeah, and I can't wait to hear the next segment
a minute.
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Yeah, stay tuned, ye, keep up for good work, guys,
Thank you, God Blast.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Good morning your Celebration Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Hey Bill, it's Barbara once again from TIERC. Yes, ma'am,
and yeah, and I'm listening to the program with the
other pastors and yourself. And it was mentioned that the
Antichrist will come from the tribe of Dan, but I
didn't get the scripture reference for that, because that is
news to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Me, it's news to most people. And and yeah, it's
it's pretty clear in scripture. So the main one that
I would point you to is in Jeremiah, and I
apologize I should I should have the actual you know,
chapter and verse off the top of my head. Let
me let me see if I can find it real quick. Well, so,
(28:43):
so what I would say is I was trying to
look it up. But but but yeah, just if you
could do a search in the Book of Jeremiah for
for the name Dan, and you'll see the story of
how the Dan Nights went up north and they took
over a little town up there right now. But then
later in Jeremiah he talks about and the sound of
hoof beats will come from Dan, or will be heard
from Dan, okay, And and that's a hoof beats like horses. Yeah,
(29:09):
And and that's that's actually a prophecy about about the
anti Christ coming. And so it's a hint there that
the Antichrists will come from the tribe of Dan. But
if you could look up online, Uh, it's kind of complicated.
But but Aaron As, We're going to do a whole
bunch of shows on this eventually, but wonderful. Yeah, and
aaron As specifically, yes, it's it's actually a I R.
(29:35):
E n A e U s so good Greek name.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Okay, okay, e n r A Yes, okay. I appreciate it,
and I look forward to to more on this because
this is just eye opening to me, of course it
and I just called my friend and say, hey, did
you hear this about.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, thank you for the call, because you know, I'm thinking, like,
where should we go after this particular topic, and maybe
we'll go right into this, this point about the tribe
of Dan. It's it's off the charts, groundbreaking stuff. It's
it's been the folks my research for about two years now.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So oh well, praise God. Thank you for being faithful
and doing all this research because I'm not a research person.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Thank you for saying that. Yeah, I kind of kind
of live for it. Just ask my wife.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
She knows, okay, I'll be praying for your wife.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, there you get. Yeah, my daughter, Thank you, Thank.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
You, blessing gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
By bye God, bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh that is elevation worship and praise on your Celebration
Radio network. And number again at twenty eight minutes after
the hour is eight hundred seven to one nine three
one three one eight hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen,
and we are joined by Farren who is in Newfoundland
(30:52):
and good morning, sir.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Hey, good morning. How are you guys doing this morning?
Great to hear, yes, you know, it's good listening. And
it's just so amazing how technology allows us to share
the word literally around.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
The world exactly.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
I've just been so really impressed with how I can
get in my vehicle here in Newfoundland. We're four and
a half hours ahead. It's just a couple of minutes
before right now. But it just is really exciting to
me the opportunity that we have to share the good news,
you know, little literally well well beyond a terrestrial listening
(31:33):
area guys this morning it yes, and just wanted to
call and and and say hey and and praying for
you guys. We had an opportunity to visit with a
Christian radio station here in Saint John's today or yesterday
actually and spent about an hour in their studio sharing
(31:54):
and recording some audio where their pledge drive that's coming up.
So had an opportunity to pray with them and share
with them with the exciting things that God is doing
through the ministry here and they are praying for us
but I just wanted to take a minute give you
guys a call this morning. It was nice listening to you.
(32:15):
We've already had a breakfast and been up and had
a three mile run.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And there you go. Yeah, that's that's cool.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Here we brought we brought our founder pastor take them
here and Grace visited family. They needed someone to accompany
them up here. So we kind of an unexpected trip
because something's changed for them at the last minute, and
and so and so here we are.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
But what a.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Beautiful place, forest mountains, so in awe of God's amazing creation,
and we had an opportunity to visit the location from
Marconi received the first transatlantic radio.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh wow, I was going to ask you if you
had a chance to see that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's cool, that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Yes, we've seen that. And also that is the location
where they received the distress call from.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
The Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Well yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
I just wanted to call in and and and say
hey to you guys and keep up the good work.
And I hurt you talking a little bit about us.
I am so thankful that God included us and the
big plan.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yes exactly, we're in that group. Yeah, God for that.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Anyway, I'll let you guys get back to it, but
I just wanted to let you know we're praying for you.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Thank you. Awesome waving Canada. Well, God bless you guys,
Travel safe, stay warm, say hi to everybody.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Have a blessed by bye bye.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That is our brave.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And fearless leader. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Him and Miss Debbie, along with Pastor and Grace are
visiting relatives there in Newfoundland, and and I know that
they are such going being a blessing to not only
Pastor Tathum and Grace, but also the family that they're
with in everyone in their area. You know that, especially
(34:23):
Miss Debbie. You know she wherever she goes, she usually
has a following, so I know.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's very cool.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
So we love you guys, we miss you and can't
wait for you to get back.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, travel safe. Yeah. Amen.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, we're going to go to some music at the
bottom of the hour and then news and we'll be
back in just a few minutes to continue on with
the Lamb and the one hundred and forty four thousand.
We'll get to that in Revelation eight hundred seven nine
three eight hundred seven to one ninety three thirteen and
your Rip with Loves got Away coming up next your
(35:00):
Celebration Radio Network. Good morning, your Celebration Radio Network.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Hi Bill, just to show alone from Gilbo. How are
you doing good?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Cheryl?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I'm doing all?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Why?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
What can we do for you?
Speaker 8 (35:15):
I was flying that Brian changed his phone number.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Something, you know what.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
He's coming in the back end of the studio right now,
from the from the kitchen. So Cheryl is on the
line and she wants to ask you a question about
your phone.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Okay, Hi Cheryl, how are you?
Speaker 8 (35:36):
I'm doing a Ryan, how you doing good?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Good to hear your voice.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Yeah, it's good to hear you too. Yeah, wondering did
you change your number? I?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I didn't, And now that I hear your voice, I
remember that you left me a voice message a couple
of days ago, and I so much apologize. I didn't
get bad to you. I forgot. I'll just be honest.
I've been very, very busy this week. But nope, you
you found me. I got your voicemail, just didn't listen
to you yet. So yes.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Shorts through nine two eight.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Four eight six six seven zero one four, And why
don't you give me a call in a couple of
hours and I promise I will pick up.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Okay, Hey, I'll go to day treatment to day.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, Well call me whenever you can and I promise
I'll pick up. Okay, Okay, Okay, love you, Cheryl.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I want to ask you another question, Sure, go ahead, Okay.
At the day Calbert allow he begins to lately, is
that supposed to happen or is it not?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I mean, yeah, for sure. I mean, like like in
an overall general context that as we get closer to
the last of the last days, that yeah, there's going
to be there samine, earthquakes, volcanic activity.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yart of it. So yeah, this plague that well,
I guess we could call it a plague that swept
across the nation and around the world. COVID is just
a precursor to what we can expect when a.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Lot in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, in a lot of different ways. Yeah, it's definitely
part of it, Cheryl.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, but if that's true, you're you, as a believer,
you're supposed to be supernaturally protected from that. So just
stand on that and thank God for supernatural healing and health.
You're trying out, Okay, I keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Great girl, stay in faith? Yes, amen, Amen, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Okay, God bless, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Bye, always only Jesus. Their title track for Mercy May's
latest album on your Celebration Radio Network. It is sixteen
minutes to the top of the hour, where the time go?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I don't I just noticed that? Wow? Yeah, So one
more break. So our promise is probably going to spill
into the next show in two weeks, which is to
prove that the one hundred and forty four thousand includes Christians.
It doesn't Jews, but also Christians. Okay, so are we
ready going to dive in and let me let me
know I should ask this out there? Is this our
(38:08):
last segment for the morning. We'll do one quick one
before we close.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, we'll do another.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, good, all right, Okay, so here we go. We've
got to keep this ball rolling, right, So we've seen
one hundred and forty four that they're introduced in Revelation
chapter seven, and that's where they look. It looks like,
you know, John's describing the nation of Israel Jews.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
We showed that you know, yeah, but this this is
something symbolic going on here, right. So so here's the
thing is that they don't just show up in Revelation
chapter seven. They show up again in Revelation chapter fourteen. Yes,
seven chapters later, yes, exactly. And now let me give
some context. So chapter seven we explained before. It happens
right before the Great Tribulation begins, which is in chapter
(38:47):
eight chapter fourteen. Come on, we're way into the Revelation.
In fact, it's in Revelation chapters twelve and thirteen that
the anti Christ is introducing. He rises to power in
chapter twelve. That that we know happens halfway through the
seven year Great Tribulation. So chapter fourteen were past that.
Chapter thirteen is where he introduces the mark of the Beast.
(39:09):
I mean, we're really like Antichrists period. And now we're
in chapter fourteen. We are in the period of the
Antichrist right here. So Bill, go ahead and read those
five verses.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It says, then I looked and behold a lamb standing
on Mount Sion, and with him one hundred and forty
four thousand, having his father's name written on their foreheads.
And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice
of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder.
And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps.
(39:41):
They sang as it were a new song before the Throne,
before the four living creatures and the elders. And no
one could learn that song except the one hundred and
forty four thousand who were redeemed from the earth. These
are the ones who were not defiled with women. They
are virgins. These are the ones who followed the Lamb
(40:04):
wherever he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being
first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And verse
five says, and in their mouth was found no deceit,
for they were, or they are without fault, before the
throne of God.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Okay, a lot to unpack, a lot. And here I'm
saying that this, this, this one passage five verses, proves
that the one hundred and forty four thousand which are
being depicted here as on planet Earth. I'm explain that
in a second that this includes Christians. Okay, So did
any of you see any hints in there that that
this group is is our Christian any there actually is? Okay?
(40:46):
I know you guys think up setting you up, because
I want to do that as you do. But there
actually is at least one hint in here that this
this is describing Christians. And here's what it is. In
verse versus verse four twice, it's as it mentions the Lamb.
It says, these the ones who follow the lamb. Who's
the lamb? That's Jesus obviously earlier in Revelation in Revelation
(41:07):
chapter five, or he's given the cirl he's described as
a lamb, right, and then at the end of that
verse Revelation chapter fourteen, verse four, their first routs of
God into the Lamb. Okay, so this tells us, okay, well,
this group follows the Lamb that you know that is Christians.
And a lot of you know, teachers, pastors who teach
this and are trying to say this is just you know,
(41:29):
strictly Jews the nation of Israel. They'll say, oh, well,
these are Jews who converted to Christianity during their time. Listen,
that's nice. That does not comport with scripture because we
know from Daniel chapter nine, verse twenty four that the
Jews as a people do not accept Christ as the Messiah.
And tell them very into the seven year Great Tribulation.
(41:51):
We know from Paul in Romans chapters nine, ten eleven,
it's not till the very end of the Great Tribulation.
In the end, all Jews will be saved, so that
it kind of tricky. So maybe like all Jews will
be said, except these hundred and forty four thousand, So
they you know, you're you know, now it's getting a
little bit you know, trickier to make this mean Jews,
(42:12):
you know, just use they have to do that still
because again it's the same group. It says, one hundred
and forty four thousand, same number having the Jesus Father's
name written on their foreheads. That happened in chapter seven.
It's the same group, okay. And here where are they?
It says that that John sees them standing on Mount Zion?
What's Mount Zion? That's the crickets, thank you, that's a
(42:35):
temple mount, which is a thirty seven acre complex Injures.
From a physical space, you could kind of fit one
hundred and forty four thousand. There is that symbolic it is,
but it's it's it's still depicting them on earth, okay.
So and it's symbolic because you could barely fit one
hundred and forty four thousand people on thirty seven acres
(42:57):
of space. Not to mention, if these are Jews who
have conferred to Christianity, are they going to be standing
up there while the anti crisis seated in the temple
trying to hunt them down and cut their heads? Like
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
And it's not really a literal one hundred and forty
four thousand like we see it though, because we got
to look at you got to look at numbers and
what they mean right in the Bible. Yeah, So then
that's kind of what they're doing is a symbolism. So
you have ten, which I'm just going to go through
the numbers really quickly if I have time. So you
have ten stands you don't, but you started it since
you started, okay, so ten ten kind of looks like
(43:29):
it stands for all of Right, then you go a
little further and you go one thousand means really absolutely
all of when you look at these numbers in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
So then you have twelve. It's used for the.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
People of God, which is the twelve tribes and the
Old Testament and the twelve disciples or the apostles in
the New Testament, right, so that stands for all of
Christians are all of God's people. So then you take that,
so you have the twelve the thousand, So it's the
twelve times twelve, which is old New all together times
you know ten, you know, so you get the ten
times ten times ten, which is perfect right. So and
(44:00):
that all fits together, which gives you one hundred and
forty four thousand. So he's just using symbolically that it
means all of God's people everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yes, again, like we said earlier, I mean it looks
like a symbolic number, and yeah, you just broke down
the symbolsm and we'll look you know, more more at
that later, you know, but but yeah, for sure. Yeah.
So here's the thing though, and even then, you know,
are we grasping its straws? Here are we trying to make?
So so back to how this is usually taught. These
are literally one hundred and forty four thousand Jewish males
(44:32):
who are virgins, right, like literally virgins? Right? Have you
guys heard that? Yes, I've heard that. It's meant many times. Yeah,
And I just have to ask the listening audience, you guys, right,
does that really sound literal? Like literally, God's going to
pick exactly one hundred and forty four thousand Jewish males
to convert to Christianity and their virgins? Okay, yeah, can
(44:54):
I can? I and the virgin parts? Just so it's weird,
you know, right.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
Have not been defiled by woman? What's that mean so much?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
There? Yeah? People argus And here's the thing, even the
virgin thing like, yeah, you just brought up John excellent. Uh,
there's a hint right there that that doesn't mean literal,
it's symbolic. Here's what I mean by that. Okay, I
know it's a Christian radio station family show girls getting nervous.
I'm not a virgin, just as the words come o math,
I've been married for thirty two years, I have a
(45:23):
fifteen year old you know, do the math right?
Speaker 7 (45:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah? Does that mean because me is a man, that
I'm not a virgin? Does that mean I'm defiled by women?
Because that's what it says here, says they're not defiled
by women because they are virgins, for they are virgins.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
Well, and also means that I don't stand a chance
because I'm not a man.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
That's another problem, But that is that how God describes
me because because you know, I have a wife and
I have a daughter, so God considers me to be
defiled by women, because come on, doesn't make sense. Yeah,
it's not true. It's one thousand percent not too. God
created the institute of marriage before Adam and Eve even
left the garden. It's a first human institution, right, yeah,
(46:02):
so there has to be something else going on here.
So we have all these weird descriptors. Taking them literally
makes no sense, okay. So and again okay, grasping and straw.
So what was this's have to do? Does this really
prove that they're Christians? It one does, But we're going
to just start on that, digging into that in the
(46:22):
next segment, and then I think it's going to spill
them with the next show. It's looking like I'm going
to go.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
To the next show altogether because.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh do we just use up our time?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Okay, I'll take Oh no, it's okay. Not also, so
so next show, we promise everybody in two weeks come back.
We're going to pick this apart, and I promise you
that that by the end of us doing this work,
that you will see that in Revelation chapter fourteen, this
is clearly describing not Jews, it is just describing Christians. Again.
(46:52):
This group one hundred and forty four thousand includes both,
but in chapter seven we get the Jewish aspect of
the group. In chapter fourteen, John is giving us the
Christian aspect of this group. So uh, not to filed
with women means I'm that that's that means I'm a
Christian virgin. That's symbolic speech for Christian right, redeemed from
a moment. That's a Christian yes. Okay, there's no deceit
(47:14):
in our mouth. We're without fault. That's a Christian yes,
and we're going to prove it. Okay, is this allome
in the next show? Awesome? How's that for like a
cliff or commercial? Come back in two weeks? There are wow, eight.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
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That was Zach Williams and looking for you along with
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We're at nineteen minutes after the hour, and I have
my gang in the studio this morning. I guess I'll
call you a gang thanks to gangs. Good pastor, Ryan,
(00:21):
John and Terry here in the studio with me this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And we could be like Bill's sweat Hogs. That a reference.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Horseshack and yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, welcome back Codder there. Yeah, we are really aging
our Wow, tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Wow, that's the seventies man. Yeah my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, played the song welcome back, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
John Travolta, Oh yeah, Vinny Barberino, Barbarino.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I just had a birthday yesterday, so yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
To the fifty seven's.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, and uh, you guys are also young and that's something.
So my new favorite cars of fifty seven Chevy, my
new favorite condiment. It wasn't before seven. I don't know, okay,
I'm just trying to make a topical. My new age.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Fifty seven is pretty good actually, and yeah, you know,
fifty seven Chevy is like the ultimate classics.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, so that is. And if you're in your fifties,
you'll remember the show Welcome Back Home. See how that
works out.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, all right, Well, we've got a bunch of stuff
to get to today that we're going to be talking about. Yeah,
and I know that, uh we had a call off
air last last show.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
By uh Dwayne Wayne, right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Dwayne, and he asked a bunch of questions and and
we're going to get into that today. But also, you know,
there's a lot of stuff that's going on in the
world that doesn't get reported. Thankful for I am very
thankful for CBN. That's Christian Broadcasting News, and they do
(02:07):
a lot of what the world is talking about. But
they also do stuff that gets skipped because.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Because it's like nice news. It's good.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's good stuff that's happening, right, like a revival that
grips Brazil's Amazon. Wow, they baptized fourteen thousand, five hundred
people this year so far, really in the last six months.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, right about it. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's in the Amazon River basin in the northwest Brazil,
and profound spiritual transformation is holding in the Amazon, and
it's it's pretty incredible. If you go to CBN News
you be able to look that up and read it.
It's it's really long. But there's been a missionary in
(02:51):
the in the basically the jungle for the last thirty
two years that's been spreading the gospel. And he was
the main the main guy that was talking to CBN
and giving that update. So in the last six months,
they've baptized fourteen thousand, five hundred people.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, and that's something.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So that's over two thousand people a month.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean just you know, those numbers are like there
there aren't churches here that are doing that, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And it's not like a super populous area. There's not like,
you know, millions of people living there.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Right right, we're talking the Amazon.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean that you know, like very small, Yeah,
Triss Communities area very small. So that's a big percentage.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well it is. It's very cool. Another revival at Texas
A and M. Corpus Christi fifteen hundred we're in attendance.
Sixty two were baptized at Texas A and M. So
another thing that's uh, and when they say another revival,
this is like still streaming from the as very revival
(03:55):
from last year, right, So yeah, it's been going on
and it's still going on at campuses right, not only
in our country but elsewhere. They baptized him in the fountain. Wow,
that's cool, is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's pretty cool? And then have you do you guys
know who Russell Brand is? Of course British.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Actor, yeah, comedian yeah, yeah, actor.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He kneels in prayer against darkness and demonic forces at
a major event. Wow, he is a Christian?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Nice. So I've actually be well not just that, but
I've actually been like catching a lot of Hisarlson interview
he was on it. Yeah, but also he has been
coming up on my you know Facebook wheals very much.
And I mean he's a real evangelist and you know,
you know you can tell like, you know, we're all
filled with the Holy spirits that helps us Troy discern.
But but he's got it. He's like seriously filled with
(04:44):
the Holy Spirit and and getting the gospel out there
and yeah, people are listening, so pretty amazing. Yeah, and
he and he was born you know maybe maybe not
like like if I was going to guess who was
going to become a Christian, he wouldn't have been like
at the top of the list.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Right right exactly because he was he was an atheist.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. So and then now, you know, I
had a certain persona that was kind of you know that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And another another interesting fact. I found this super interesting
because I just loved this guy, Barrick Grills.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Who he is, that the survivor guy, you know, British
Special Forces celebrity. You know, he takes people into the
wilderness and you know, and he's had a show on
like Discovery Channel for a really long time. He's the
guy that baptized him Russell Brandow. Yeah, because Barrick Grills
is a devout Christian and he's got devotionals and you know,
(05:42):
just all kinds of stuff. So pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, And this is what the body of Christ needs
to really be aware of paying attention to, is that,
you know, we can get so caught up in the
darkness out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's why I didn't want to talk about it that today.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, but look at what's happening on the on you know,
on God side of this. The dark gets darker in
these last days. Light its light, and what do all
these baptisms have to do with the end times, you guys.
Chapter two, Yeah, yeah, you know for sure. Yeah, in
the next chapter two, but all of a discourus Jesus
Great in Times dissertation Matthew, Chapter twenty four, verse fourteen.
(06:19):
And this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world,
and then the end will come. And so what what
you know we're talking about here this morning? You know,
Bill houses these amazing news items. This is literally a
sign of the end times from Jesus himself. When this happens,
then the end will come. So which is kind of funny, like,
(06:39):
does that mean you want the end of the world
to come? Yes, just give the bloody we do, because
that means I mean back, coming back, So yeah, I
want to live in His kingdom. That's right. And it
doesn't mean the end of this world or the people
or nature. It means the end of this world system.
That r that's all that. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, So that's good that you clarified that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So yeah, the world blowing upcular war.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is gonna happen, you know, blah blah blah. So yeah,
we wanna we wanna definitely clarify that uh, when Jesus
comes back. Listen that thousand years that the earth won't
be destroyed until.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
After Yeah, and it's not even destroyed, it's just.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That well he said, it's going to be consumed by
fire if we're trying to keep it positive. But see,
that's that's the thing though, None of us that you know,
our followers and believers in Jesus are gonna have to
worry about that fire.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Right, that's well, I mean, I mean, you know, by
that time, that'll be you know again, like you just said,
at the end of the millennial reign of Christ, will
spend a thousand years in our glorified bodies, by the way, right,
helping Jesus to restore the earth. I think back to
God's original plan, you know, the Garden of Eden. Once
we've accomplished that, then kind of the reward for that,
I think is that God makes a new earth, new
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have in new Jerusalem, which I'm assuming is going to
be like better even you know, more fantastic than anything
we could ever imagine. So you know, what's he going
to do? Probably take us all off the earth here,
let me remake it. Okay, now you're back, So I
mean of course.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I mean it's only it's not even going to be
a weak vacation for it because he did it the
first time in six days.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So yeah, that's true. I could hang out for six
days up in Heaven, you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, they probably have you know, a good beach up there,
and you know, crystal really good food.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I won't have to worry about calories.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's it. Glorified bodies. Man, You what you want?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Looking forward to it?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm quickly figure anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I wonder if are we all going to have six packs?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Anyway? I'm praying for an eight pack, but okay, I'll
take a three packs.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I just take any instead of what I've got now
one hundred seven two one nine three one three one
eight hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen. And when
we come back, we'll dive into this. We're gonna get
into the one hundred and forty four thousand and so
much more.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Stay's gonna be a good one eight.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Hundred seven two one nine three one three one eight
hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen. Megan Woods is
up next. It's called The Truth on Your Celebration Radio
Network Good morning, Your Celebration Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Good morning Bill. This is Barbara from T Your Cry
Barbara Good, good good. There was a song that just played.
It was wonderful.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's Megan Woods. Megan Woods, Megan Meghan okay, and the
last name is Woods okay, and it's called the Truth.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, oh my gosh, that is so anointed. I've never
heard it before.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, it's uh, we've had it, I think for a
couple of weeks now, but in our rotation, so it's
you know, periodically throughout the day, so you know, but yeah,
it's I play on it, I repeat at home multiple times.
It's yeah, really really good.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Going to do that here at my home too. Thank
you for sharing and playing it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh, you're very welcome. Yeah, you can look her up
on YouTube. She's got some other music too, but she's
a fairly new artist and that's the only song that
she's released for able for us to download. So hopefully
she'll have an album out soon.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Amen. Yeah, thank you, please, you're very welcome. Thanks. Okay,
I'm bye.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Cody Cahns. Take you at your word on Your Celebration
Radio Network. The phone number again eight hundred and seven
two one nine three three one eight hundred seven two
one ninety three thirteen in the studio with me this morning,
Pastor Ryan, John and Terry and we were talking about
last show, the one hundred and forty four thousand, and
(10:54):
we had a phone call off air after the show
ended from brother Dwayne, and he asked a lot of
really great questions.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Lots of questions. Yeah, in fact, and then John went
through this last week and he transcribed the.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Whole Yeah, he listened to the podcast and got all
that because that's included in the podcast or the phone calls.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And yeah, so extra points for John for all that
hard work. Yeah, no, that's helpful. That's good. Yeah, No,
gold star, though I'm looking for gold stars. I had
to glide gold stars. It was going to be since
you asked, so, Terry and I would compete for those
in his class. He'd always give out gold stars everybody.
But what what's the big deal about one hundred and
(11:37):
forty four thousand? I mean, why would Dwayne call with
all these questions? And John, you actually had questions to
last last show? I remember, so yeah, so what what's
the controversy here? What's what? You know? What do we care?
Who the one hundred and forty four thousand are well.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Scripture tells us that they mentioned the tribes, you know,
and twelve thousand from this tribe, twelve thousand from that tribe.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, you know, and it goes through.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But like you pointed out, not all of them are
actual tribes of Jacob of Israel.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, which gives us a hint that maybe this is
a little bit symbolic. Yeah, right, But again, who cares
are the you know, because because you know Dwayne, what
he's been taught, I think what most of us have
been taught over the years is at thee hundred and
forty four thousand, they're Jews. These are Jews. And but
but I'm saying, no, they're one hundred not just Jews.
(12:28):
The one hundred and forty four thousand symbolize all of
God's Covenant people, Old Covenant and New Kevenant, so it
includes Jews, but it also includes Christians. So, Terry, why
why is that a controversial statement that I just made.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Because a lot of people think that we're not going
to be here when this whole one hundred and forty
four thousand part comes to pass.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's correct, Okay, So so so what you're saying, then,
is that according to the book Revelation. The reason this
is a topic an issue question is because Revelation depicts
the one hundred and forty four thousand as being on
earth during the Great Tribulation and the crisis. So if
if what I'm saying is accurate, right, then the hun
(13:08):
then that means unequivocally, I mean, we can't you know,
it's you can't debate it right that Christians will be
on earth throughout the Great Tribulation, the ring of the Antichrist.
So how do we know? So Revelation chapter seven, John,
where does that take place in the timeline of the
in time story?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
So as you're reading it, you have the seals that
are being broken, correct, which already thinks that's you know,
we're not here for any of the seals and all
that stuff going on. So you have the first six
seals have been broken. After the six how many company
seals altogether?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Seven? Okay? And these are seals like like you go
down to a harbor. Yeah, they're on the dogs, barking
like dogs. These are like seals on a scroll. They're
like what do you call those?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
The old the old the old school, the wax seal
they put on things, so it's like the wax seals
are being broken on this scroll and as each.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
One, the king would use this ring to seal it official.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Right, so you had the six those six first six seals,
which was you know, the Arrival of.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The Conqueror, that was the guy on the RS. Yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Conflict on Earth was the next one. Scarcity on Earth,
widespread death on Earth. Fifth seal was the Cry of
the Martyrs. So everybody's saying, when are you going to
avenge us? Then the six Seals. There's a cosmic disturbance,
so something has hot cosmically and right now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, there is a disturbance in the sky. And I
actually just taught on the sixth seal just in my
last class one week ago. You know, the go to
these Final Days dot org and click on you know,
the YouTube link and you can see my my latest
class actually taught on the sixth Seals. So the six
Seals pertinent because again there's there's this scroll that that's
introduced in Revelation chapter five that only Jesus can open.
(14:49):
This is some like there's seven seals on it, the
first four, the four Horsemen of the apocalypse. So so,
according to my estimation, the four horsemen are already riding
and the fifth Seal takes place in heaven. We can't
really measure that. So that means that the sixth Seal
is actually the very next thing to happen on the timeline. Yeah,
you know right, and they can happen.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
It just really throws a wrench in the whole thing
because you keep thinking, well, we weren't going to be
here for these seals.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But I just so, yeah, that's that's what people have
taught that because they because they teach I think mistakenly
that the sick that the seventh Seals are part of
the Great Tribulation, but they're not. That's there before, because
this scroll with the seven seals is God's decree of
judgment upon this world system. When that seventh Seal is broken,
(15:35):
Jesus unfurls the scroll, that's when the Great Tribulation begins.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
So so here's here's another issue. People always refer back
to when John was caught up, when he was in
heaven to witness all these things. They say that is
where their rapture is representing, representing the rapture occurring.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Right, which is for yeah, which is the larger context
that we're right in the middle of here, right right,
So that that's the question we're addressing, you know, is
that true? So real quick, Terry, go and read the
very first verse or two verses of the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to
show his servants the things that must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to a servant, John,
who bore witness to the word of God and to
the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Excellent. Okay, So right at the very beginning of the
Book of Revelation, John or Jesus, because this is Jesus revelation.
It's not Jesus being revealed. I'm he is. But this
is a revelation that God gave to Jesus to show
to us. That's what it clearly says. And it's about
actual things, things which must shortly take place, and he
sent and signified them. The word signify means what to
(16:44):
present symbolically. So this is our key given write in
verse one of the book to tell us how properly
to approach this question of who are the one hundred
and forty four thousand, So a lot to this. We're
going to go to some music or whatever. Bill, I
see Bill's music. Finger of the controls there.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Say the number again? Eight hundred seven two one nine
three one three one, eight hundred seven two one ninety
three thirteen. John Reddick up next with Don't Fight Alone
on your Celebration Radio Network. Yeah, My Light by Colton
Dixon on your Celebration Radio Network. It's twelve and a
half minutes after the hour. And in the studio with
(17:24):
me this morning. If I turned their mics on anyway, Hey, hey,
got sorry. Pastor Ryan, John and Terry are in the
studio with me this morning, and we're going to be
getting into the one hundred and forty four thousand. Yeah,
Pastor Ryan, so tell us what that What does that mean? Okay,
one hundred and four thousand.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So again, so why is this important? Because we're talking
about the timing of the rapture? Right? So, so this
question who were one hundred and forty four thousand? This
is going to help us answer this incredibly huge controversial
question in today's church, right, Yeah, whether or not the
Body of Christ is going to be on Earth, the
Great Tribulation, the antichristis or in heaven during that time. Right,
(18:03):
So pre tribulation rapture or what we teach on this show, right,
not necessarily to reflective views and et cetera of the
State Management and Statiment staff. Yeah, yes, we teach a
post tribulation rapture because we believe that's right. So here's
the thing. The one hundred and forty four thousand, like
like John you know very well, you know pointed out
in the last segment, they are depicted right toward the
(18:26):
end of this period that's leading up to the Great Tribulation, right,
So so this is an event that takes place. So
so chapter seven oops, yeah, I'll get to it. So
chapter seven is is right before the Great Tribulation starts.
It actually starts in chapter eight. Okay, So even if
the one hundred and forty four thousand, as to put
it in chapter seven includes Christians, like I'm saying, you know,
(18:51):
so what this this isn't the tribulation period yet, right. Well,
here's the thing though, is that is that what happens
to the to the one hundred and forty four thousand
in chapter seven field they're sealed for what? For protection
from what? From the things that are going to happen
for God? The plagues that God sends. And do you
guys remember from the last show two weeks ago? Are
(19:12):
there any examples or that? So we actually do you
guys remember? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yes, yes, yeah, excellent, hitting everyone except those who are sealed.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right, so that the Great Tribulation begins with the seven trumpets? Okay,
so these trumpets, uh, depict God's plagues that he sends
upon the ear to begin this period that we call
the seven year Great Tribulation, right, and and the fifth trumpets,
so that's well into the tribulation period is a plague
of locus. You'll find that in Revelation chapter nine, and
it's specifically said that the locus are commanded not to
(19:46):
harm any green thing or the grass of the field,
which tells us they actually locus, not coppers or whatever,
but only those who do not have the seal of
God on their foreheads. So so now what as I
tell you? Okay, well, if those who are sealed in
chapter seven get raptured and they're up in heaven, why
are these locusts commanded not to hurt them? It wouldn't
(20:06):
make sense, And.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Why would we be sealed if we're just going to
be rapture and take it up?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Very good, excellent, excellent, because we're sealed right before these
four angels that are holding back all these forces, these
natural forces, you know, you know, God says, you know,
don't don't release those forces, don't unleash the Great Tribulation
until first this angel goes around the earth and seals
and Terry, excellent point, Like, why would we need to
be sealed for protection from these things if we're not
going to be here for these says? So clearly we
(20:32):
see that the one hundred and forty four thousand remain
on Earth throughout at least the beginning of the Great
Tribulation period, right the first half.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
But again those places going back to how do we
know that these are just not the Jews, that we're
not here?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So, you know, Terry again read the verses that start
the mcgre about how this is real stuff, but it's
presented symbolically. Do we see any hints here, you guys
that the that the one hundred and forty four thousand,
as depicted in chapter seven in Revelation, that this is
this is not to be taken literally maybe this is symbolic. Well,
(21:04):
let's take a look at it.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
It says, you know, it goes through and talks about
the four whims, and everything goes through, and then he
names them and he calls them the tribe of the
Sons of Israel, which people immediately assume that's the Jews.
But then you go through and read them, right, so
you have the tribe of Judah, Yeah, the tribe of Reuben,
gad Asher, Neftali, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, Benjamin. And
(21:28):
then they throw instead of the tribe of Dan, which
they completely go off the lifts, they throw Manassa in there,
the son of Joseph.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Right, grandson of Isaac, Yes, exactly, So you have one
of Joseph's sons, Nassa, but you also have Joseph listed right,
Joseph is listed there. So if you're going to have Nassa,
why wouldn't you just leave out Joseph and put an
Eph room. Yeah, which those were his two sons that
kind of were split into like two separate tribes in
a sense, but not really right, it's the tribe of Joseph.
(21:57):
H So what what tribe has left out of this
whole list, which is rely bizarre. D the tribe of Dan?
And what do we know about the tribe Dan. We're
going to get into that one these o. Yeah, it's
another big topic. Yeah, So why why wouldn't tribe of
Dan be left out of this enumerates? This never happens
anywhere else in the entire Bible. I'm going to see
the twelve tribes of Israel listed. You never see it
listed like this. Why is Dan left out?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Somewhere in the Old Testament talks about the any Christ
comes from the tribe of Dan.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
There's zero ques. I cannot remember which vers in I listen,
there's a lot to it. So it actually starts in
Genesis chapter three, still in the garden, God's curse on
the serpent. It's we get it we And then we
connect that to Jacob's blessings on his sons in Genesis
chapter forty nine. And when he gets to Dan, he
actually calls him a serpent, by the way, connecting him
(22:44):
back to that prophecy that God gave to Satan in
the garden about the anti Christ. Wow, and then Jeremiah
tells us that the anti Christ is going to come
from Dan. But he says it in an excitedly kind
of symbolic, kind of kind of you know, esoteric way.
But hey, we've got this guy, my favorite guy outside
the Bible. Aaronais, Oh, yeah, who was the disciple of
(23:06):
Polycarpuho was a disciple of John the Apostle himself, who
wrote the Book of Revelation. And Arnais tells us in
his amazing work against heresies, right, this huge book published
in the year eighty one eighty he just says it literally, verbatim.
I'm not paraphrasing here, he says. And we know that
the anti Christ literally used the word will come from
(23:27):
the tribe of Dan, literally says the tribe of Dan.
And this is why Dan is left out of the
enumeration of the tribes in the Book of Revelation. Boom,
my tron. So this is why Dan's left out, because
the Antichrist is going to come from the tribe of Dan. Okay,
Ephram is left out, by the way, because the tribe
of Dan became apostate. We read about that in the
(23:48):
Old Testament, you know quite a bit. First kings, right,
became apostate when they were given a false idol by
an Ephramite. So the tribe of Ephraim is apostate the
tribe Dan. It's really a postiate. You guys have no idea.
I mean I've been tracking this, tracking him down for
like a year and a half, two years now, right, Yeah, anyways,
So and then also just this idea of one hundred
(24:10):
and forty four thousand. Listen, Yeah, that number should jump
out at any of us who are old enough to
study like regular math back in school. Remember remember the
number one hundred and forty four on the multiplication table.
That's twelve times twelve. That's the last that's the biggest
number on the most hit that we all memorize. So
you know, when we see that, it's like, yeah, one
hundred and forty four, that feels and then an even thousand,
(24:32):
and then it lists these twelve tribes, not even the
correct tribes, and twelve thousand from each one. It's so
precise that, you know, you know, if you're tempted to
take it literally, just consider for a second, maybe there's
something symbolic going on here. Yeah, you know. The first thing, yes,
it does say the tribes of Israel, no getting around that.
(24:53):
The very strong indication that this is talking about Jews
the nation of Israel, and it is.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Not always also talking about Christians, because as we're grafted
into the tribe of Israel, the Israel as a whole right,
so Israel could also be Christians.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Paul calls us the Israel of God. Paul says, he
he who is like a Jew outwardly is you know,
not necessarily a true Jew, but he who is a
Jew inwardly, who have our heart circumcised talking about Christians.
So there's all this other stuff that would actually connect
us in But you know what all that is like
too much Like it feels like me tap dancing here.
(25:32):
I'm trying to convince you know, this has to include Christians.
So what should we do? Some more music and yeah,
we need to Okay, and then when we come back,
I'm gonna prove it, well, John, John, the Apostles gonna
prove it. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
One eight hundred seven, one ninety three one three, eight
hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen. But The Cross
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Good Morning, Your Celebration Radio Network.
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Hey, good morning, good morning. Hey, I can press Scift Valley. Yes,
and enjoying the show. Just my head is just like
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Speaker 2 (26:09):
One, and that's our goal.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's an amazing first segment with Pastor Ryan his associates,
and you so enjoyed and enjoy the program. Hey, is
there a way to predict what time or what fridays
the program will be on the air? Is it like
the second and forced Friday of each month?
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It's usually every other week, so every two weeks, every
other week.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Typically unless one of us or more of us are
going out of town. But yeah, typically every two weeks.
And the show starts at about six fifteen am and
goes tell about eight am.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Right right, I've caught that. I just just didn't know
the time, you know, right there, and you didn't want
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the air. That's Bill. I'm the guy that has been
blessed with the seventy nine Volkswagen Westphali.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah right now, Oh yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, it's stored in Montana at a farmer's garage, a
spare garage. Hopefully that I prayed that angels would keep
the mice away from the wiring for the last four
and a half months. But we're going to continue. We're
gonna so traveling mercies. We're gonna get in that bus.
I get to see two presidential libraries in the Midwest,
(27:24):
the Harry Truman one and Herbert Hoover in Iowa, the
other side of Iowa. And but first we'll go through
Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota and he has
a visitor center but not a presidential library. But anyways,
traveling mercies for two senior citizens. Shall we say, okay,
(27:45):
traveling in a Volkswagen bus and all I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Right, all right, right, yeah, God Blast.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, and I can't wait to hear the next segment
a minute.
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Yeah, stay tuned, ye, keep up for good work, guys,
Thank you, God Blast.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Good morning your Celebration Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Hey Bill, it's Barbara once again from TIERC. Yes, ma'am,
and yeah, and I'm listening to the program with the
other pastors and yourself. And it was mentioned that the
Antichrist will come from the tribe of Dan, but I
didn't get the scripture reference for that, because that is
news to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Me, it's news to most people. And and yeah, it's
it's pretty clear in scripture. So the main one that
I would point you to is in Jeremiah, and I
apologize I should I should have the actual you know,
chapter and verse off the top of my head. Let
me let me see if I can find it real quick. Well, so,
(28:43):
so what I would say is I was trying to
look it up. But but but yeah, just if you
could do a search in the Book of Jeremiah for
for the name Dan, and you'll see the story of
how the Dan Nights went up north and they took
over a little town up there right now. But then
later in Jeremiah he talks about and the sound of
hoof beats will come from Dan, or will be heard
from Dan, okay, And and that's a hoof beats like horses. Yeah,
(29:09):
And and that's that's actually a prophecy about about the
anti Christ coming. And so it's a hint there that
the Antichrists will come from the tribe of Dan. But
if you could look up online, Uh, it's kind of complicated.
But but Aaron As, We're going to do a whole
bunch of shows on this eventually, but wonderful. Yeah, and
aaron As specifically, yes, it's it's actually a I R.
(29:35):
E n A e U s so good Greek name.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Okay, okay, e n r A Yes, okay. I appreciate it,
and I look forward to to more on this because
this is just eye opening to me, of course it
and I just called my friend and say, hey, did
you hear this about.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, thank you for the call, because you know, I'm thinking, like,
where should we go after this particular topic, and maybe
we'll go right into this, this point about the tribe
of Dan. It's it's off the charts, groundbreaking stuff. It's
it's been the folks my research for about two years now.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So oh well, praise God. Thank you for being faithful
and doing all this research because I'm not a research person.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Thank you for saying that. Yeah, I kind of kind
of live for it. Just ask my wife.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
She knows, okay, I'll be praying for your wife.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, there you get. Yeah, my daughter, Thank you, Thank.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
You, blessing gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
By bye God, bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh that is elevation worship and praise on your Celebration
Radio network. And number again at twenty eight minutes after
the hour is eight hundred seven to one nine three
one three one eight hundred seven two one ninety three thirteen,
and we are joined by Farren who is in Newfoundland
(30:52):
and good morning, sir.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Hey, good morning. How are you guys doing this morning?
Great to hear, yes, you know, it's good listening. And
it's just so amazing how technology allows us to share
the word literally around.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
The world exactly.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
I've just been so really impressed with how I can
get in my vehicle here in Newfoundland. We're four and
a half hours ahead. It's just a couple of minutes
before right now. But it just is really exciting to
me the opportunity that we have to share the good news,
you know, little literally well well beyond a terrestrial listening
(31:33):
area guys this morning it yes, and just wanted to
call and and and say hey and and praying for
you guys. We had an opportunity to visit with a
Christian radio station here in Saint John's today or yesterday
actually and spent about an hour in their studio sharing
(31:54):
and recording some audio where their pledge drive that's coming up.
So had an opportunity to pray with them and share
with them with the exciting things that God is doing
through the ministry here and they are praying for us
but I just wanted to take a minute give you
guys a call this morning. It was nice listening to you.
(32:15):
We've already had a breakfast and been up and had
a three mile run.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And there you go. Yeah, that's that's cool.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Here we brought we brought our founder pastor take them
here and Grace visited family. They needed someone to accompany
them up here. So we kind of an unexpected trip
because something's changed for them at the last minute, and
and so and so here we are.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
But what a.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Beautiful place, forest mountains, so in awe of God's amazing creation,
and we had an opportunity to visit the location from
Marconi received the first transatlantic radio.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh wow, I was going to ask you if you
had a chance to see that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's cool, that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Yes, we've seen that. And also that is the location
where they received the distress call from.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
The Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Well yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
I just wanted to call in and and and say
hey to you guys and keep up the good work.
And I hurt you talking a little bit about us.
I am so thankful that God included us and the
big plan.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yes exactly, we're in that group. Yeah, God for that.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Anyway, I'll let you guys get back to it, but
I just wanted to let you know we're praying for you.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Thank you. Awesome waving Canada. Well, God bless you guys,
Travel safe, stay warm, say hi to everybody.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Have a blessed by bye bye.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That is our brave.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And fearless leader. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Him and Miss Debbie, along with Pastor and Grace are
visiting relatives there in Newfoundland, and and I know that
they are such going being a blessing to not only
Pastor Tathum and Grace, but also the family that they're
with in everyone in their area. You know that, especially
(34:23):
Miss Debbie. You know she wherever she goes, she usually
has a following, so I know.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's very cool.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
So we love you guys, we miss you and can't
wait for you to get back.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, travel safe. Yeah. Amen.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, we're going to go to some music at the
bottom of the hour and then news and we'll be
back in just a few minutes to continue on with
the Lamb and the one hundred and forty four thousand.
We'll get to that in Revelation eight hundred seven nine
three eight hundred seven to one ninety three thirteen and
your Rip with Loves got Away coming up next your
(35:00):
Celebration Radio Network. Good morning, your Celebration Radio Network.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Hi Bill, just to show alone from Gilbo. How are
you doing good?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Cheryl?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I'm doing all?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Why?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
What can we do for you?
Speaker 8 (35:15):
I was flying that Brian changed his phone number.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Something, you know what.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
He's coming in the back end of the studio right now,
from the from the kitchen. So Cheryl is on the
line and she wants to ask you a question about
your phone.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Okay, Hi Cheryl, how are you?
Speaker 8 (35:36):
I'm doing a Ryan, how you doing good?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Good to hear your voice.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Yeah, it's good to hear you too. Yeah, wondering did
you change your number? I?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I didn't, And now that I hear your voice, I
remember that you left me a voice message a couple
of days ago, and I so much apologize. I didn't
get bad to you. I forgot. I'll just be honest.
I've been very, very busy this week. But nope, you
you found me. I got your voicemail, just didn't listen
to you yet. So yes.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Shorts through nine two eight.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Four eight six six seven zero one four, And why
don't you give me a call in a couple of
hours and I promise I will pick up.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Okay, Hey, I'll go to day treatment to day.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, Well call me whenever you can and I promise
I'll pick up. Okay, Okay, Okay, love you, Cheryl.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I want to ask you another question, Sure, go ahead, Okay.
At the day Calbert allow he begins to lately, is
that supposed to happen or is it not?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I mean, yeah, for sure. I mean, like like in
an overall general context that as we get closer to
the last of the last days, that yeah, there's going
to be there samine, earthquakes, volcanic activity.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yart of it. So yeah, this plague that well,
I guess we could call it a plague that swept
across the nation and around the world. COVID is just
a precursor to what we can expect when a.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Lot in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, in a lot of different ways. Yeah, it's definitely
part of it, Cheryl.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, but if that's true, you're you, as a believer,
you're supposed to be supernaturally protected from that. So just
stand on that and thank God for supernatural healing and health.
You're trying out, Okay, I keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Great girl, stay in faith? Yes, amen, Amen, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Okay, God bless, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Bye, always only Jesus. Their title track for Mercy May's
latest album on your Celebration Radio Network. It is sixteen
minutes to the top of the hour, where the time go?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I don't I just noticed that? Wow? Yeah, So one
more break. So our promise is probably going to spill
into the next show in two weeks, which is to
prove that the one hundred and forty four thousand includes Christians.
It doesn't Jews, but also Christians. Okay, so are we
ready going to dive in and let me let me
know I should ask this out there? Is this our
(38:08):
last segment for the morning. We'll do one quick one
before we close.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, we'll do another.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, good, all right, Okay, so here we go. We've
got to keep this ball rolling, right, So we've seen
one hundred and forty four that they're introduced in Revelation
chapter seven, and that's where they look. It looks like,
you know, John's describing the nation of Israel Jews.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
We showed that you know, yeah, but this this is
something symbolic going on here, right. So so here's the
thing is that they don't just show up in Revelation
chapter seven. They show up again in Revelation chapter fourteen. Yes,
seven chapters later, yes, exactly. And now let me give
some context. So chapter seven we explained before. It happens
right before the Great Tribulation begins, which is in chapter
(38:47):
eight chapter fourteen. Come on, we're way into the Revelation.
In fact, it's in Revelation chapters twelve and thirteen that
the anti Christ is introducing. He rises to power in
chapter twelve. That that we know happens halfway through the
seven year Great Tribulation. So chapter fourteen were past that.
Chapter thirteen is where he introduces the mark of the Beast.
(39:09):
I mean, we're really like Antichrists period. And now we're
in chapter fourteen. We are in the period of the
Antichrist right here. So Bill, go ahead and read those
five verses.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It says, then I looked and behold a lamb standing
on Mount Sion, and with him one hundred and forty
four thousand, having his father's name written on their foreheads.
And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice
of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder.
And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps.
(39:41):
They sang as it were a new song before the Throne,
before the four living creatures and the elders. And no
one could learn that song except the one hundred and
forty four thousand who were redeemed from the earth. These
are the ones who were not defiled with women. They
are virgins. These are the ones who followed the Lamb
(40:04):
wherever he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being
first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And verse
five says, and in their mouth was found no deceit,
for they were, or they are without fault, before the
throne of God.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Okay, a lot to unpack, a lot. And here I'm
saying that this, this, this one passage five verses, proves
that the one hundred and forty four thousand which are
being depicted here as on planet Earth. I'm explain that
in a second that this includes Christians. Okay, So did
any of you see any hints in there that that
this group is is our Christian any there actually is? Okay?
(40:46):
I know you guys think up setting you up, because
I want to do that as you do. But there
actually is at least one hint in here that this
this is describing Christians. And here's what it is. In
verse versus verse four twice, it's as it mentions the Lamb.
It says, these the ones who follow the lamb. Who's
the lamb? That's Jesus obviously earlier in Revelation in Revelation
(41:07):
chapter five, or he's given the cirl he's described as
a lamb, right, and then at the end of that
verse Revelation chapter fourteen, verse four, their first routs of
God into the Lamb. Okay, so this tells us, okay, well,
this group follows the Lamb that you know that is Christians.
And a lot of you know, teachers, pastors who teach
this and are trying to say this is just you know,
(41:29):
strictly Jews the nation of Israel. They'll say, oh, well,
these are Jews who converted to Christianity during their time. Listen,
that's nice. That does not comport with scripture because we
know from Daniel chapter nine, verse twenty four that the
Jews as a people do not accept Christ as the Messiah.
And tell them very into the seven year Great Tribulation.
(41:51):
We know from Paul in Romans chapters nine, ten eleven,
it's not till the very end of the Great Tribulation.
In the end, all Jews will be saved, so that
it kind of tricky. So maybe like all Jews will
be said, except these hundred and forty four thousand, So
they you know, you're you know, now it's getting a
little bit you know, trickier to make this mean Jews,
(42:12):
you know, just use they have to do that still
because again it's the same group. It says, one hundred
and forty four thousand, same number having the Jesus Father's
name written on their foreheads. That happened in chapter seven.
It's the same group, okay. And here where are they?
It says that that John sees them standing on Mount Zion?
What's Mount Zion? That's the crickets, thank you, that's a
(42:35):
temple mount, which is a thirty seven acre complex Injures.
From a physical space, you could kind of fit one
hundred and forty four thousand. There is that symbolic it is,
but it's it's it's still depicting them on earth, okay.
So and it's symbolic because you could barely fit one
hundred and forty four thousand people on thirty seven acres
(42:57):
of space. Not to mention, if these are Jews who
have conferred to Christianity, are they going to be standing
up there while the anti crisis seated in the temple
trying to hunt them down and cut their heads? Like
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
And it's not really a literal one hundred and forty
four thousand like we see it though, because we got
to look at you got to look at numbers and
what they mean right in the Bible. Yeah, So then
that's kind of what they're doing is a symbolism. So
you have ten, which I'm just going to go through
the numbers really quickly if I have time. So you
have ten stands you don't, but you started it since
you started, okay, so ten ten kind of looks like
(43:29):
it stands for all of Right, then you go a
little further and you go one thousand means really absolutely
all of when you look at these numbers in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
So then you have twelve. It's used for the.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
People of God, which is the twelve tribes and the
Old Testament and the twelve disciples or the apostles in
the New Testament, right, so that stands for all of
Christians are all of God's people. So then you take that,
so you have the twelve the thousand, So it's the
twelve times twelve, which is old New all together times
you know ten, you know, so you get the ten
times ten times ten, which is perfect right. So and
(44:00):
that all fits together, which gives you one hundred and
forty four thousand. So he's just using symbolically that it
means all of God's people everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yes, again, like we said earlier, I mean it looks
like a symbolic number, and yeah, you just broke down
the symbolsm and we'll look you know, more more at
that later, you know, but but yeah, for sure. Yeah.
So here's the thing though, and even then, you know,
are we grasping its straws? Here are we trying to make?
So so back to how this is usually taught. These
are literally one hundred and forty four thousand Jewish males
(44:32):
who are virgins, right, like literally virgins? Right? Have you
guys heard that? Yes, I've heard that. It's meant many times. Yeah,
And I just have to ask the listening audience, you guys, right,
does that really sound literal? Like literally, God's going to
pick exactly one hundred and forty four thousand Jewish males
to convert to Christianity and their virgins? Okay, yeah, can
(44:54):
I can? I and the virgin parts? Just so it's weird,
you know, right.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
Have not been defiled by woman? What's that mean so much?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
There? Yeah? People argus And here's the thing, even the
virgin thing like, yeah, you just brought up John excellent. Uh,
there's a hint right there that that doesn't mean literal,
it's symbolic. Here's what I mean by that. Okay, I
know it's a Christian radio station family show girls getting nervous.
I'm not a virgin, just as the words come o math,
I've been married for thirty two years, I have a
(45:23):
fifteen year old you know, do the math right?
Speaker 7 (45:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah? Does that mean because me is a man, that
I'm not a virgin? Does that mean I'm defiled by women?
Because that's what it says here, says they're not defiled
by women because they are virgins, for they are virgins.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
Well, and also means that I don't stand a chance
because I'm not a man.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
That's another problem, But that is that how God describes
me because because you know, I have a wife and
I have a daughter, so God considers me to be
defiled by women, because come on, doesn't make sense. Yeah,
it's not true. It's one thousand percent not too. God
created the institute of marriage before Adam and Eve even
left the garden. It's a first human institution, right, yeah,
(46:02):
so there has to be something else going on here.
So we have all these weird descriptors. Taking them literally
makes no sense, okay. So and again okay, grasping and straw.
So what was this's have to do? Does this really
prove that they're Christians? It one does, But we're going
to just start on that, digging into that in the
(46:22):
next segment, and then I think it's going to spill
them with the next show. It's looking like I'm going
to go.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
To the next show altogether because.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh do we just use up our time?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Okay, I'll take Oh no, it's okay. Not also, so
so next show, we promise everybody in two weeks come back.
We're going to pick this apart, and I promise you
that that by the end of us doing this work,
that you will see that in Revelation chapter fourteen, this
is clearly describing not Jews, it is just describing Christians. Again.
(46:52):
This group one hundred and forty four thousand includes both,
but in chapter seven we get the Jewish aspect of
the group. In chapter fourteen, John is giving us the
Christian aspect of this group. So uh, not to filed
with women means I'm that that's that means I'm a
Christian virgin. That's symbolic speech for Christian right, redeemed from
a moment. That's a Christian yes. Okay, there's no deceit
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in our mouth. We're without fault. That's a Christian yes,
and we're going to prove it. Okay, is this allome
in the next show? Awesome? How's that for like a
cliff or commercial? Come back in two weeks? There are wow, eight.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Hundred seven seven ninety three thirteen to get in that
prayer request.
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Well, guys, thank you for being here this morning.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Thanks, Yeah, I love y'all and we'll see you in.
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A couple of weeks. And again, people listening these final
days dot org for this ministry all you know, my
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It All Back is coming up next eight hundred seven
two one nine three one three one eight hundred seven
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two one nine three one three to get in that
prayer request Good Friday morning. Oh that is Caleb and
John with Kin and somebody like me on your Celebration
Radio network twenty seven minutes after the hour. I want
to thank you for allowing us to be part of
your Friday morning and Heavenly Father, we want to thank
you for the new morning you've given us, and what
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a privilege we have to begin it with you each
and every day. And as today continues to unfold for
all of us, Lord, give us your wisdom to handle
any situation we encounter. Let our speech be seasoned with
your grace and our thoughts pleasing to you. We're so
grateful to know that, regardless of where this day does
take us, you were right there in the midst and
there's no shortage of good things in your presence. So
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that presence, Lord, I pray the listeners feel throughout their day, Lord,
those loving arms of Yours wrapping around them, giving them
strength and encouragement faith to face the day. The healing
touch for their body provision for their family, the restoration
of loved ones neighbors, Lord, and deliverance from all addiction.
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Break those chains, God and set them free, and help
us to live with the mindset on things above, to
be heavenly and kingdomly minded at all times, so that
your light shines through our lives into this dark world,
and that the precious name of Jesus will be glorified.
And in that name of Jesus we pray Amen. Well again,
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thanks for allowing me to be part of your Friday morning.
Looking forward to seeing you for Recovery Radio, or maybe
this afternoon at the fair in Kingman. Looking forward to
spending some time up there the next couple of days.
Big Daddy Weave is going to take us to focus
on the family. It's heaven changes everything. It sure does
on your Celebration Radio network. Have an incredible day to day.
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We'll see tomorrow
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