Premier League 25/26 Outright Betting Tips & Predictions! Winner, Relegation & Golden Boot

Get ready for the new Premier League season! In this video, we're taking a look at the betting markets for the 25/26 season.

Sporting Life's Tom Carnduff, James 'Jimmy the Punt' Cantrill and Joe Townsend will be sharing their betting tips and predictions for the title winner, the relegation battle, the Golden Boot race, and a few other fancies along the way.

This is the ultimate Premier League 25/26 betting preview!

Let us know what you think in the comments. Do you agree with our picks, have you got your own outsider shouts?

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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 - Intro
4:30 - Premier League Title Race - Liverpool strengthened, Arsenal and Manchester City's chances
18:30 - Race for Europa League (and Conference League): Aston Villa, Newcastle, Brentford, Tottenham, Brighton, Manchester United
41:30 - Relegation: How will the newly promoted Leeds United, Burnley and Sunderland fare? Can they overturn the recent run of sides failing to stay up? Concerns for West Ham, Wolves, Brentford, Everton, Nottingham Forest, Crystal Palace
56:40 Golden Boot & Top Scorer Fancies
1:01:00 - Outright Best Bets and Final Predictions
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to this week's Aaker's Premier League season preview, Tom,
Jimmy and Joe with you to talk all things top flight.
We're going to be looking at the title race, the
race for Europe. There's always races for something, the race
for relegation we'll call it that, as well, the battle
to avoid the drop. Everything will be covered in this Remember, though,

(00:20):
if you are betting on anything that we suggest in
this episode, or of course your own for bets for
the Premier League season, remember to keep it fun. Never
bet more. Egan Afford. This podcast is eighteen plus and
please gamble responsibly. This is the last of these that

(00:42):
we have to do because of this dat staggered star
that we've got to do these in weird weekly formats.
I forgot we were doing this today. It's just snuck
up on me so much. League one and League two started,
Championship came after that, and the Premier League is the
last to go in mid August. Just thoughts on the

(01:03):
season overall. It feels like, having spoken about the EFL
and the unpredictable nature of those three divisions, the Premier
League just feels a bit more. Yeah, you know what
you're going to expect.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Go on, James, Yeah, your name's James.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, it's weird that it was three of more EFL orientated.
If only there was someone who worked here who maybe
had a column, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Follow them every week. Vision wrote about that every week
all the time. Better you know, tipped on that all
the time. That that would be handy, but dead handy.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
He's too busy building a wardrobe at the minute.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
For the last time I saw him. This is words it,
this is bad and this is his area. We don't
usually touch the Premier League on this week's aker, do we.
We've even got this week's EFL really given this hated
EFL podcast, so you've got us three guessing. Is that
the viber coring.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It seems like it. This is a great intro, but.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Of course we are big fans of the Premier League,
Premier League enough and just yeah, thoughts on this season.
It does feel like I said that, the Premier League
just feels more predictable and you obviously get the outliers,
but in terms of the betting and the outright markets,
particularly recent seasons usually been fairly correct, and.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, to be fair in terms of predictability, it does
feel more open. Top and tail of the division feels
more open then recent seasons proved to be. I know
Liverpool shocked everyone winning the title last season, but in
terms of the title this season, you got three, maybe four,
hum include Chelsea teams that could perhaps take it, and
more importantly, the relegation battle. I know the last six

(02:48):
teams to come up have gone immediately back down. But
a lot of talk, a lot of talk that it
might not be the way this season, so you'd like
to hope that it be is less predictable this season.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, I'm really excited for the start of the Premier League.
I think that this summer. I don't know whether it's
because of the little mini transfer window that they had
before the Club World Cup and then.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Who remembers the Club World Cup.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
That kind of rumbling on in the background, and I
mean it did have a serious impact on the outright
odds for the Premier League title because Chelsea opened up
as a massive outsiders for the title and then they've
come in ten to one.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
They are now twenty twenty five to what, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Twenty fours I think was the biggest price you could get.
And then that as much as we might between us.
Right off the Club World Cup. There were some interesting
results in that tournament and for them to totally dismantle
PSG like they did in the final, it can't really
be written off. So for them it does really show

(03:56):
you what that tournament is. Though they're four favorites for
the Premier League and the World champions so there is
something not quite right there. The level of transfer business
is more the point that I was making that little
mini window at the start gone quiet and now at
the level of spending, I think it's going to break
all records this summer, the amount that's been spent in

(04:17):
the Premier League. And you look at Liverpool, who are
the favorites to win the title again. They haven't won
back to back titles in forty years? Is it all longer?
So it's not easy to win back to back Premier
League titles. It's amazing what Manchester City did, I know

(04:38):
with the spending and everything, the power that they had,
but it really really isn't easy to defend your title
in the Premier League. The strength thing they've done in
the summer makes them difficult to oppose, and we've still
got this rumbling on that they might be signing Alexander Esak,
So yeah, I find it tricky.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
To look past.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
If we're talking about clubs for the title.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I do think Arsenal's got a very good chance this season.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
We discussed it at length in the early part of
last year that Arsenal just got the transfer business wrong
twelve months ago and really the last eighteen months if
you look back, their squad planning has been really poor.
They've done all the business this summer that they should
have done last year. If they'd made these signings last year,
there's every chance they'd have pushed Liverpool all the way,

(05:34):
or even Liverpool wouldn't have had such a straightforward run
to the title. Arsenal'd had a chance of winning it,
but they didn't. You look at their eleven They're going
to be stronger, They're going to be able to play
the free flowing football that last year they were a
bit stagnant. They've strengthened all the way through the team,
strengthened the squad depth. So I do think Arsenal are

(05:55):
going to be a really really strong side this season.
Having regrets last.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Year, let's pick up on that title race then, because
we've touched upon it there, you'd rank three teams definitely involved,
as Jimmy said, probably four if you include Chelsea. The
odds reflect Liverpool seven to four, Arsenal nine to four.
So there's kind of your first expected rivalry at the
top Manchester City three to one, ten to three or
one hundred and thirty year old school with that one,

(06:22):
and then there's a bit of a gap. But Chelsea
is shortening into anywhere between seven to one and ten
to one, depending where you look. I suppose let's explore
pick up on your Liverpool point as well. That's probably
the best place to start. Current champions expected or favored
in the market to keep that up huge summer. Feels
like they've sensed an opportunity to go. There is potential

(06:44):
here to actually the way the league is shaping up
to kind of create a bit of a dynasty, is
it and not just have a one off season.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
We want this to stay.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Spent a big amount of money to We've touched upon
Florian Verts, Hugo Ekeateke, commanding big fees, youngst the few
that have arrived, and then the potential Alexander Eazac move
that could come as well. Feels like as Joe touched Bon.
They are going to be tough to beat because there
is real strength and depth in that squad.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
I disagree.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I can't possibly comment on the imports, both from Germany.
Aren't there works in egit. I just don't watch them.
I don't know enough of their works.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Geremy Frempong as well, obviously from Pylo Levcus and replacing
Trent right back.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
There's a couple of interesting things though. In Liverpool.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Sam maguaiy do a good piece on site highlighting an
issue that had completely gone over all of our heads
when we did tip them top two about the lack
of options, depth and defense. Obviously Trent, Alexandronold's gone. Sam
Aguay also did a brilliant piece on site last season
about replacing him is not just replacing the right back.
You're replacing one of the most creative midfielders in the

(07:52):
division in terms of the quality of passes and just
the amount of chances he creates just with his unbelievable
passing range. So you're not just looking at a light
for light change it right back, moneyball. You're looking to
replace him in the aggregat.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, you can't replace him in the individual.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
And obviously do you know that over one window is
just impossible. The lack of defensive options is a worry
as well because you look an injury to Van Dyke.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I know you could say it's.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
About any team and any key player, but it does
just seem a bit light in defense. The other thing
is ripping up the team that won the title. It's
something on he shot did in fire Ord. He won
the title in his maiden campaign there and then they regressed,
So that's something I'd want to I'd want to shed
light on with Liverpool this season. And the other thing
is the attacking options because obviously Diaz has gone, looks

(08:38):
like Kis is going.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Nonaise looks like he's.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Off as well, and obviously the tragic passing of Diego Jotta.
I know they've they've spent money, but are they as
well equipped this season even with the massive chain.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
I'm just not so sure. I'm just not so sure.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think is going to be competitive enough actually that
some firms going a short six to four on them
to win the title. Not for me, Clive, is it
a bit too short when we look at obviously arsenal
Man City has a touch upon there Chelsea that it
could actually probably curse it, but we don't get it
that often. We obviously had the great clop Pep Guardiola
rival reason that the phenomenal points returns that those two

(09:17):
returned at times in their own little title rights. But
it feels like there could be a real potential for
it to be incredibly competitive.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
At the top.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, I would agree with Jake's outright on Sporting Life
that I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Think there's a bet the title right.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
This season.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I really don't because Liverpool are too short. Arsenal.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
I think they're going to be much better this season,
but I still don't think they're as good as Liverpool,
and their price isn't inviting enough. If Arsenal were prized
at seventy two, that man City maybe, but it's still
it's not exciting, is it. Man City is seventy two
and there's just so just so many unknowns with MANC.
It feels like to me that their recruitment has been

(10:06):
just been a little bit too scatter gun, because there's
players now that they've signed in January, they're sticking out
on loan, they're still trying to get rid of players.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Guardiola, what's his best eleven? Does he know his best eleven?
Thing's anywhere near it?

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Whereas you look at his teams over the years, and
it's always been you pretty much know what his team is.
He might tinker with a few here and there, but
it's like thirteen fourteen players. I don't think he has
got a clue what his best team's going to be
at the moment, and that's a real problem for him.
So I would imagine it's going to take another season

(10:40):
for him to work all of that out. And there's
lots of this going around that there's five more players
that he wants rid of, either out on loan or
to sell them that they've signed. He doesn't want Nico
Gonzales apparently now they've signed in January, so he doesn't
feel like it's all incredibly aligned. What's gone on? Have
they got They've got a new director of football, yeah,

(11:04):
Hugo Viana. So it's during those little periods getting alignment
over the players you're signing. It's been a very long
term period of stability for man City. Yeah, back in
them to win the title I think is not would
not be a smart.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Player at the moment. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
The other thing with pepper is he doesn't feel like
he's got as much control or it's not going to
be his own way.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
If you look at this style of player, total football
revolutionized English football.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
We don't like that keepers playing out in that. But
the football has changed, like in the last eighteen months.
It's completely and it to something that is just not
his his his strength and I think other points on them.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's true. The thing with Arsenal, though I don't think
Gocker is the answer.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I don't even think the question was worth asking about
needing a top quality strike and I'm not sure cocker
has will be that. But other than even I quite
I quite like Arteta's business in the transfer market, not
necessarily the marquee signings like Gokeres, although it could be
it could be a solution to a problem I didn't

(12:10):
think they had anyway, but adding depth in attack is good.
The same with Nonny madaway k brilliant player and I
know he plays on the other wing, but I feel
like Artes munt have a plan for him, some.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Sort of socker understood.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
He give him a bit of rest because he seems
like he plays every minute. But the more the general
point of the depth, the title challenging depth Arsenal have
got from the business this summer, like signing Kepper from
Burnemouth for peanuts, that's like.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Really good depth in the I really like that signing
and Brentford skipper Kristen Norgard.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think that is I don't know what George and
Neil brought to the camp because he's a highly regarded
football brain, isn't he? But no god for the here
and now is a player with experienced Premier League experience
that can come in and plug the gaps I think.
I think it's a really good move. And you look
at the league. Arsenal ten point short last season. They
drew fourteen games, which I think was the second most

(13:01):
in the division, and in my head, bridging the gap
of converting draws to wins doesn't seem as big as
a gap to say the teams who finished third and
fourth Chelsea Man City is converting losses to points, do
you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't feel like
Arsenal have been a million miles away for the last
couple of well, they've finished second the last three seasons

(13:22):
and I just don't think they've got as big a
gap to bridges as perhaps the market suggests. Although having
said all that completely agree with you, Joe the point
you made about the betting.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Wise, there's no title, not that Jake made it with Joe, isn't.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
It it's it does feel though Arsenal added, real good depth.
If you go around every position to pick up on
the point there and you go through it one by one,
you go, actually there's a couple of at least a
couple of great players who can come and step in
the striker, obviously being the big one in Gocrez that
that needed to I think it did need to be addressed.
They did need an actual out and out striker in
this side, and it looked like something they overlooked. They're

(13:55):
probably one area that you'd say they haven't is on
the left side of the attack with Martinelli non in Madwayke,
where he does become a sacker understudy or they try
and shift him across to that side. I'm not too sure.
That looks like maybe the one that at the moment
they still may do. It has not been addressed, but
the depth is there, which wasn't really the case previously.

(14:16):
I think that there was an okay kind of cast
of players below that that could step in, whereas now
it feels like they've kind of stepped up to do that.
And then back to Manchester City.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
The one point that.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Probably is worth making his Pep yinders is it of course.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Great is a really good point.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yet at jergen Klop his assistant, wasn't he there? He
then went away to was it Salzburg and had his
own managerial career. Does that suggest that Pep Guardiola is
aware of a changing league and a potentially changing approach
and needed a coach that will help some elements of
the transition towards that because it was a surprise move

(14:51):
that I don't say you expect anything to happen with
assistant coaches, but it was certainly one that there was
a bit of a surprise when he did read it.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Definitely, I think that if.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
If there's one thing that whether it's Guardiola's decision or
it's come as part of a wider review, then that
could be the most important thing that they've done this summer,
because he did talk about it publicly a few times
that they just could not cope with this physicality vertical
football that the Premier League had transitioned to. They just

(15:24):
weren't ready for it, and I don't think he can
coach it. So bringing somebody in who can and take
elements of that Jurgen Klop football and develop it as
part of his Man City team. I think admitting that
he's not capable of coaching that style of football is massive.

(15:44):
That's not going to be an overnight thing though, finding
the right players to be able to do it as well,
so it'll be really really interesting. But I yeh, I
totally agree. You've taken another one of my points there.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
The Chelsea the sort of the next tier down nine
to one.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Again, there's next to no value in this market because
it's just the premier league in it everyone's onto it.
But I'm just looking at Chelsea and I'm thinking they
was in the title race. What were they three four
points off the top of the league at Christmas? Off
the top of my head, I think Maresca and his
team constantly downplayed that, almost to a fault where they'd

(16:24):
started to believe it and they fell away after Christmas.
But the thing that struck me with the Club World
Cup final was Maresca made a point of saying we're
going to play my way or the highway. If Sanchez kicks,
it's long, he's going to get hooked. I remember him
saying that. But then in the Club World Cup final,
he's done a complete U turn. He went for a
high press, looked to squeeze PSG really high, went long

(16:45):
as well to.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Mitigate PSG's press, which is a.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Complete U turn on the style of player he was
shoving down after its all last season. If you can
show that tactical versatility this season, or building on a
team that was for half of the season in the
title race, any I don't know. I don't know if
they'd be the team I'll be looking to at the
price is available.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I can't. I just can't see. I mean that, it's
not even that I can't.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
I can't see it for one, but I mean they've
they are almost a third of the price with most
firms than they were, so the.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Value has all gone out.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
But the reason why they're a jumping in price is
because they are objectively just their squad is just worse.
You look at the midfield, They've got a world class
midfield Carsedo, Fernandez and Palmer. If you think of those
as a three, they are world class center back. They
don't have a center back like the other three teams.
Do is going to lead the defense at Ruben Dias,
William Salieber, Virgil Van Dyk.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
You've got to have that lynchpin.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
They don't have a top goalkeeper either. They're still scraping
around for that. And then they're strikers. They're still operating
on that tier down of forward Joo Pedro, Liam De
Lap Jackson they're trying to get rid of. They are
that tier down in terms of attackers they have. They've
done really well recruiting these young players to develop, but
everything about them except their centerment field is just a

(18:01):
level below.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Those are the three teams.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Do we think before we move on, the title is
won by one of those four teams?

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Then yes, who thinks Liverpool or Arsenal And I would
just say I'd have to say Liverpool at this moment.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Jimmy, I agree, but the opposite Arsenal.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I'm going to say Liverpool. It's my title winners. Nice
of a division of opinion. We'll take a little break
and then we'll come back and we'll pick up on
should we say best of the rest?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, the next lot.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
The next lot, onto the next race for something, and
that is of course Europe. The I think if it
does play out as the odds suggest, the four teams
we spoke about, what'll make up the top four, where
we get top five again remains.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
To be seen.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
In terms of Champions League qualification, you've got the Europa League,
the Conference League as well. Manchester United are next up
in the title odds at twenty five to one. Why explain, please,
the team that finished fifteenth or sixteenth or something last
season beating Europa League finalists, Please someone explained, this.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Is football heritage.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Jose Mourinho was right all along, wasn't he? If Manchester
United finished fifth this season, it will be astonishing, absolutely astonishing.
If you needed any kind of example of how much
the market can be moved by people just betting on

(19:32):
a team, the number of fans that man United have worldwide,
then this is.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
This is it.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Because there is no data in terms of the performances
to show that they're any kind of upturn. There's no
significant signings that they've made, and they have been net
on a regressive trend under their new manager, so there
is there is nothing to suggest that they will anything

(20:00):
other than mid table at best, at absolute best, So
it is completely bizarre. It's like positive vibes from Luke
Shaw and interviews about doing the basic things, which is
just turn.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Up to training and I do training properly, do you know,
like all the clubs do.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
But for some reason it seems like it's headline news
A Man United and it creeps it seems to be
creeping out of the news that they've still just got
these players that are a total what three hundred million
value just sitting there not being allowed to train with
the squad.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
But utterly baffling.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Matthias Kunya and Brian and Buomo or in Boimo, depending
which way you want to pronounce that. From Wolves and Brentford,
they're the only two major signings at this moment in time.
It looks like they're going to pay a fair whack
to get Benjamin Cesco from RB Leipzig in Germany. It
does feel like a lot more needs to happen with
this team to get anywhere near. I mean the title

(20:59):
probably that we spoke about there being twenty five twenty
eight to one to get to the top four, four
to one.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, I was just going to say that they asked
the price for top four. Doesn't marry up with the
title price.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's weird that Newcastle, who will touch upon in a
minute on four, five to two, seven to four in
places to make the top four, and yet Manchester a
four to one despite the title ods being vastly different.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Doesn't make any sense because off the back of their titles.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I was going to say, maybe that opens up potential
avenues for value in the other market.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
It's not four top six season ninety cap, but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's really annoying.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I either look yesterday I was thinking, oh what about
man United not to finish in the top four, but
it's it's not worth it, so it is. It's like
the BUCkies know that they can't change those prices because
they're not going to finish in the top four, but
they're at the so liable because so many people are
back in my nine with the league that they've had

(21:55):
to cut the prices in It's crazy. Really, they completely
mess with the with the market. Yeah, I've spoken about
my somebody else's car.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Well, I'm just I don't really know what Rubin ammer
and what's he trying to do?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
What's it what's he bringing? What is it?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Belief?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Is it belief?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
He did a speech on the pitch at the end
of the season, so everyone believes again.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
That I don't know, I don't get it and does
what he wants to bring to the club.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Does that marry up?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
In terms of the signings they've made this summer, are
the people who wanted because you would have thought Goarez
get him over from the Sporting Lisbon, that they were
there together.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Why would he go there instead of Arsenal though I'm
just saying that that's the problem, isn't it. Why and
earth would he? So they're in a they're in a
tricky spot like that. Yeah, it's very odd. I mean,
if you're a Manchester United support, obviously like fingers crossed.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
For their supporters that they get a bit of a
positive season.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
But they've signed two players that were middling or struggling
Premier League teams, which very different situation to playing for
man United, who have overperformed the data in terms of
the goals and assists that they've provided, which is actually
what you're supposed to not do when you're recruiting players.
And now they're gonna sign a player who is unproven

(23:14):
in the league to be the spearhead for their attack.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Still, so many unknowns. They haven't. There's no different to
the end of last season.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
For me.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think it's yeah, we could talk well talk about
till the Cows came out.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Double the price and you get the team that beat
them in the Europa League Final. Tottenham, of course Champions
League football, new manager under Thomas frankl new head coach.
I'm not sure which one they go with their I
do you fancy a strong season for Spursian even with
that Champions League Football and the involvement there. Thomas Frank
has done a very universally accepted He's done a very

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very good job at Brentford. I think are one season
they're always floating around that mid table kind of top
ten area. The squad that again, they had so many
injuries last season, but I don't know if it was
linked to kind of the way they were operating and
whether it will changed this time around. But the squad
they've got, there's a very solid team when everyone's available.
The addition of Mohammad Kudas obviously the Morgan gives White

(24:13):
saga and went on whether it was just that they
saw an opportunity to get a player for what they
felt was lower than or significantly lower than value, or
there is actually funds there to bring in another major
signing before the window ends. But it's a team that
looks well equipped if they can have better luck with
injuries this season to push back into those European spots,

(24:34):
even with Champions League football to contend with. Because the
Aji experiment, I think we can call it was just
so much fun, particularly for a neutral. When it first
started out, it was so good, and then it did
dwindle towards the end and the fun wasn't there. But
he ultimately did deliver the second season trophy that he
did suggest would happen. It's just a side that looks

(24:57):
does look capable of being competitive.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yes, I was just looking at the signs they've made.
Did you know Brian Gill still there?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
He's just going out alone all the time, wasn't Heah?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, But the in terms of the signings they've made,
you reference to how Kudov's son's gone. I don't know
where Kudos fits in to a front line with slim Key.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think the fact that there's so much flexibility with
where he can plays a big bonus You've got Obviously,
Brennan and Johnson there as well depth signings. Of course,
timo Verner has gone, but Manal Solomon's back. How much
he gets used as a depth player, I'm not too sure,
but he's kind of own personal season of I'm going
to go to a step probably lower than what he

(25:43):
expected to per format, find my form again, try and
stay fit, and he did just that in the championship
and a title winning side where he played a huge part.
He's back to add some depth there as well.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
The massive solo on low and of course you remember
how good he was at Fulham before he got that
big the best holding midfielder destroyer in the division, not
even close in terms of tackles and interceptions and recoveries
and all that like as a as a springboard to
get a team player. And I think he's the best,
well he was when he left the Premier League. I

(26:16):
don't know how how he's stinting in the bunds League.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
It's just barely played. Yeah I know, but I don't
know that's.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Going to affect him, but yeah, it's pretty you'd be
pretty optimistic as a Tottenham fan with the with the
manager and in splashing the cash as.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, any thoughts over riding too much of a step
up for Frank?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Maybe yeah, very very much.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Not sure.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Is Thomas Frank a better manager than and Pasta Colin?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I loved ange Pasta Cogolo so long involved in the debate.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Is he he's more versatile? Is he?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Is he a Is he a better manager?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Is he.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Without doubt a managerial upgrade on a Prosta Cogglin.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yes, you think, I think toast on Premier League experience.
The job at Brentford was obviously brilliant, but he's backed.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
By shrewd recruitment.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
But you look at how he evolved the Brentford team
like three or four times, from the team that came
up in the playoffs, constantly losing your best players and
adapting and then readapting to the way you play in
the modern Premier League. I think I think that's just
as important because the issue with and and why it
was so exhausting for the Tottenham fans was you only

(27:32):
had one way of playing, and it was brilliant for
us to sit and laugh and look at the high
line when he'd got nine men and all that. But
in terms of challenging in the Premier League, you're never
going to be anywhere near. But Thomas Frank, I mean
even last season, off the top of my head, you
remember Brentford were brilliant at home and then they flipped
that in the second overseason.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
They were brilliant away.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Remember when they came up, they was playing like I
think they had did they have wingers when they came
up in the playoff and then he moved away from
that to a back five with wing backs. And then
he went from the passing team that they were in
the championship where they'd.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Have mo all over the ball, and then he went
more direct like.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
He's got he's got a few options, Thomas Frank, can
he and more? Another thing I just thought of is
constantly losing your best players. You get new players, highly
regarded players in but it's one thing to get them,
but to coax them into the talents that he did.
I mean this and Buemo, I think they got thirty
nine goals between them front two for Brentford. Like, yeah,

(28:27):
I do think he's an upgrade for a few reasons
on AJE, But yeah, I don't know enough about them
to confidently place them in the Premier League this season.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
But I'd be a lot more optimistic.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Let's group Newcastle and aston Villa together as two teams
and two clubs who have, should we say, consistently been
the main challengers to the established Big six in the
Premier League in recent years in terms of transfer windows,
very quiet for both sides. I mean Newcastle's issues have
been far more publicized with struggling to land targets obviously

(29:00):
the Alexander Ezac saga and what's going to happen with that,
but they're difficulties in recruiting players. It feels like a
very pivotal, pivotal summer for Newcastle and their future or
near future and their ability to compete, and at the
moment it's not going well whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Newcastle sum has been a fucking disaster, absolute disaster. The
you can list player after player after player. I think
it's like tendant. It's very, very difficult because you know
you have a short list and a long list as
a club.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
They've burnt through that, especially with attacking players.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
So how much longer can your long list get if
everybody keeps turning you down to go to other clubs.
So it could scarcely have gone worse for them and
now they're in this really awkward position where like, well
we probably should sell he sat because if he doesn't

(30:01):
want to play for us, then we can get this
money and then we can reinvest it. Well, you can't
reinvest the money if nobody old bloody signed for you,
So then they think what we'll get cess going, Well, they.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Didn't want to come to he wants to go many United.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Now, well, who's going to be our fifteenth choice striker
this summer? Brentford won't sell you and Visa for the
price they want to pay, So they look like a
club in serious trouble. It's rare that you'd have a
summer like this. A club starts and it's all brilliant,
you know, hunky dory. So bet they wish had kept
Callum Wilson now instead of lett him go to west

(30:32):
Ham on a one year contract because it's looking threadbare
and they might have one of these weird situations where
they have to grin and bear it, not sell Esak
and do the whole reintegration into the team, because otherwise
I don't know what they've got in terms of the
outlook for the season. Personally, I would be grouping them

(30:55):
with Tottenham. Too many unknowns for me, He'll be leaving
it alone. Thomas Frank couldn't test it with a top club.
Very different situation. I think walking in there, I really
like him, similar to Jimmy, but I just think so
many questions aston Villa.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think you know what you're getting there, you really do.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Una Emory is.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
A proven and that's the point really I'm getting to
with Thomas Frank. If Tom mcgne out and got Uni
Emory or an equivalent and appointed him, you'd be like, yeah,
they've done amazingly there. They've just won the Europa League,
sat the manager, and they've appointed Doing Iamory. Can you grumble?
Aston Villa appointed Doing Iamory when they were in a
relegation battle in the Premier League. One of the probably

(31:35):
one of the best managerial appointments in recent history in
the top flight. Clear clear managerial upgrade. You know that
they don't get the signs they want in he is
still gonna get the absolute maximum out of that playing
group and of those three clubs, even if they don't

(31:56):
do the business they want. They've had a bit exception
for a striking France having they thirty million, they're going
to be fine this season. They're not in the Champions League.
It's much less labor intensive to be playing in the
Europa League. They would be the next team for me
alongside you know, the established four.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
As I said, do aston Villa break into the top
four slash top six again this season? Then I would
say so, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
The main thing for me about aston Villa is the
last point you made, Joe.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
The absence of Champions League.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Football, thee the bear in the group stage had on
aston Villa season was significant because the record, like the
game following Champions League games, there was a severe drop
off in results.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I think during the group stage, I don't know if
they had eight games.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
I think off the top of my head they didn't
win any, but I'm not sure it's even none or one,
and over the course of the season that massively meant
that the full short fell short.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
The other thing is, you know, Hery loves the Europa
League and he's.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Got the squad depth to compete in the secondary Europa
competition European competition sorry, and the Pier League and.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
He fucking look, he loves it.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Did you win free back to back to back at Villal?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
He wasn't four. I know that.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
I think he won three in a row, did win
two at Severe and then won somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
But yeah, I mean is that he's the king of
that competition, is he?

Speaker 5 (33:19):
And the big point because I know people say that
they still got European football.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
They're playing on a Thursday. You hear the players talking
about it.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
You take Olie Watkins as a case in point when
he was left out of that PSG game and he
was raging, like I said, I've been with this club
for so long, building us up through the table. The
emotional upheaval of a massive Champions League night for a
club that's not been there. Look at Newcastle was exactly
the same when they were in the Champions League.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's just like old.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Hat playing in the Europa League. For a team like
aston Villa. Now it's not going to have the knock on.
They had the Conference League run and they still managed
to qualify for the Champions League that year. They can
just absorb that and the Champions League is just so
different for the player is to emotionally recover as much
as it is a physical thing.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
So the surprise packages of the past few seasons. Bournemouth,
of course, in Antonio Ariola's first campaign at Nottingham Forest,
of course under Expirito Santo last season, and Brighton have
always been the cliches there or thereabouts, haven't they challenging
for Europe and of course have been in Europe being
competition as well in recent years. Let's talk those three

(34:24):
teams then, particularly interested in forests. I think it's fair
to say expecting regression this season, but that's just because
they overperformed to such a degree last time out.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Well, I will be tying these two sections together without
meaning to when you've framed it like that, right, And
I like for the top six of five to one
no European football at this point. They've only lost Sho
Pedro and they only sell a player when they really
want to. Is this speculation about Carlos Blabor going to

(34:57):
man United. I wonder whether that's just been planted by
Manchester United to sow the seed for next summer, because
I don't see how they can financially make that deal work.
I am surprised it's taken so long for a team
to be linked with him because he's been phenomenal for them,
but no European football. Second season for her so to
really get a grip on that team limited outgoings for

(35:18):
a club that are very well managed, I think they
have got a great chance of finishing in the top six.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Nottingham Forest I tend to.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
One to be relegated and I wrote a piece on
sporting life earlier in the summer, and I mean it
has become a running joke now, hasn't it, mister Marinakis
being referred to in every little bit of press that
Forrests do that utterly bizarre interview with Morgan Gibs wiatory
signed his contract. I just stand by it that that

(35:47):
is a club fit to fall to pieces if.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
They get on one bad run.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
And you look at the data, not just in terms
of them overperforming, and they ought to have been more
mid table, lower mid table last season. They had a
goalkeeper who had the season of his life, best goalkeeper
in terms of posthot XG in the division. And they
had a striker and Chris Ward who had the season
of his life. He is not going to score that
many goals again this season. So you put those two

(36:16):
back down to just a mean performance and suddenly in
trouble then they've got Thursday. Europa League Football as well.
I could really see them getting getting dragged into it.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Jimmy agree.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Forrest obviously, like we said, we were expecting them drop
down somewhat, but as we're there, you group with Brighton
in terms of where those potential clubs might be at
the moment and their aims for this season.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, I didn't even consider any of the things on Forrest.
I didn't have any strong opinions. But the point about
Sales massively overperforming his x G in the net and
Chris Wood, it's hard to ignore. Also the circumstances in
which they've kept their best player, well, is he going
to be scared?

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Is he gonna be motivated? And he could have as
good as season.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
As long as they're keeping his family in that hold himself,
then he'll be putting the performances one.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's just really strange, and I don't know how oh
quick mister Monacas will be to make a change if
they are in a bad run. And again, tactically, we
were talking about it towards the back in the season.
I think I can't remember who did the piece on site,
but about them getting found out tactically because they were
playing this counter tacking football.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
It was brilliant first half of the season.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Second half of the season when clubs gave him the
respect they demanded, we saw them just tail away. And
then they're going into this season. Teams will be prepared
to play against them. I can't see him having just
based on now what Joe said, I can't see him
being his because last season. But bright and I was
nodding along furiously. I think they are a bet for
the top six.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
I also think they're a better in the handicap plus
twenty seven points.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think Tony bloom I was such a shrewd operator.
I based on nothing whatsoever apart from how angry you
got one time in a press release. So I think
he This is pure speculation, but I think he went
heavy on them to get in Europe last season. In
personal betting, I've just got a feeling, and this season

(38:14):
I think they're better equipped for all the reasons Joe said,
particularly the European football thing.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
How many teams in the Premier League in Europe? Nine?
Is it nine?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's nine to fifteen? Nobody knows, really is it?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Palace, Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea. She said in the city.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
I want to know I've been trying to check, but
I can't get a concrete answer.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Well, do you know, you just look at the Premier
League table for last season. Yep, and then you count down,
so it's down to this top seven and then it's
Palace so it's eight eight oh no, and then Tottenham time.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yeah I was right, and yeah, I just couldn't name them.
So like half of the teams like at the top
end of the division and Crystal Palace and Topenham are
going to be in Europe bright and don't have that
And what you said about not losing like quality.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Gio Pedro aside, they've got large of the best side
of theirs has had a season to adapt to the
Premier League.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Remember when he first came in a.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Couple of mad results because he thought he could play
exactly the same way as he did before.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
He adapted. In the second half of the.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Season they were versatile tactically and they finished really well
and keeping together that core group of players. No European responsibility,
Tony Bloom based on absolutely nothing at all. Expecting them
to improve again this season. I think they are. They
are the standout bet for me. And you know, as
you look at the handicap as an overachievers market, who's
best equip to overachieve.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I think they're the bet. I think they're the best.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
The thing with Brighton as well is that this would
probably it brings on to another team that Brighton do
well because they are Brighton and the way that they're run,
they are an exceptionally well run football club. I hate
to hang on to the point with Thomas Franket it's
just a real nagging out with me. Brentford are similarly

(39:59):
well run, they're just not as big and Thomas frank
is leaving that fabulous situation at a very very well
run football club, so that's a big question mark. You
look at Graham Potter, he hasn't managed to replicate the
success he had a Brighton which is such a well
run club. But every manager that's followed him at Brighton
miraculously has also done a really good job like Graham

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Potter did because it's such a well run club. So yes,
Fabian Hurtzeler is going to be better this year, but
more importantly Brian are just going to keep being well run,
so they are a very very trustworthy team when it
comes to.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
A bet like this.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
The point I was making is great Potter and west
Ham that's another team to worry about.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
A Sorry. The last thing on Brighton is this lad.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
They've signed up the quaestion cash on this young Greek
forward and in terms of growth cost cost Tulis Karen
Lampos cost Tulis.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
You did well there.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Easy for you to.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Say, yeah, I don't know anything about the player, but
as a as a business.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Model, they've traditionally sounds really cheap money.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Can we can go through Brighton's signings one by one
all we want at least look, three of these are
going to be world class.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, that's just how it is.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
They'll just go oh, yeah, no, yeah, this fellow, no,
I know he's really good. We've got oh right, okay, cool.
How long has he been around? Just gone last summer?
You go, oh right, okay, I've completely missed that. It
turns out to be one of the best players in
the world. Let's take a quick break, but we'll pick
up on that point on west Ham and the wider
picture at the bottom end of the table next. So
we've talked to the positives mostly. I think it's fair

(41:38):
to say at that end of the table, let's look
towards the other because I was going to say, let's
start by discussing the newly promoted sides, of course, because
that's how it has been in relegation and that end
of the table recently. But west Ham talk to us
about west Ham and Graham Potter and as you alluded
to there, why you are concerned.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Yeah, I I was getting ahead of myself a bit,
sort of mixingto together that Thomas Frankins stable Brighton situation,
sorry Brentford situation, and then liking Brighton because of the
consistency there and managers doing well and it could scarcely
have gone much worse for Green Potter at west Ham
after he took over the last season. Yeah, and they

(42:18):
haven't done good business this summer either, lost kudos and
he's going to be trying to get his style of
play implemented.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
In the summer.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
But I've got very very little optimism for west Ham
doing well, and I struggled to shake the feeling that
that the fans just aren't going to go for him,
and that fan base are particularly vociferous type. Do you

(42:52):
know if they take against a manager, you've got a
problem there. And you look back over the managers that
have been consistent, and it's not been really it's going
to if it's going to be slow, possession based football
that that Portter wants to play. They talk about the
west Ham way, what is it? Because I just think

(43:13):
it's playing attacking.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Football that people like to watch.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I don't think there's a very specific style that they
need to have the ball for sixty five.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Percent of the time.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
So I've got a lot of concerns they're bad recruitment
a year ago that he's inherited has left them very
little wriggle room to recruit this summer.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
To solve it.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Yeah, I think that they've got every chance of getting
of getting dragged into.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
It from west Ham before we move on.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
If you've got any I ain't got tons of strong opinions,
but be interested to see this season Jared Bowen have has.
I think he's got eight and twelve when Potter, since
Potter came in.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
But that's that's all.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I've got to move to a forward on f FPL
popular picked by a lot of people because of it.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
That's the one point I left out.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Im glad you swept it up, is that lottnges on him,
especially with kudos leaving like Jared Bowen was injured for
that middle part of the season last year. Without Jared Bowen,
what have they got? Really very very difficult to see
where the goals are going to come from in the
front three.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Do you want to talk newly promoted sides next for
that relegation picture?

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Hell yeah, yeah, you can take the newly promoteds if
you want.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, the trend in the Premier League has been free
up three immediately the same threegically go back down.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
But you look at the bigger picture.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
This season points on west Ham Rural valid Fulham seven
to one.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
They've not made a single signing.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Actually, Marcos silver too highly to think there'll be in
any danger. And you look at the squad he's built
over the previous windows. He's got actually a really good
depth in the squad, which worth mentioning because they ain't
signed anyone. But then you look at Brentford Wolves, two
teams that's similar in the sense that they've lost their
best players.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Kunya eight Nor he's gone from Wolves.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Brentford obviously lost their skipper, the manager, his favorite members
of the backroom staff and Buemo.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
So they've been smashed in both them three to one.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Those have been the teams alongside west Ham that you'd
been looking thinking they could be in danger further Afield
ever And I'm actually pretty hot on Evert, and I
think David Moyes doubled their gold Plerg games last season
when he came in. I just think they'll just be
absolutely fine under him. But Burnley's Sunderland leader. I was
actually really hot on Burnley when they went up one
hundred points. Well, the greatest defense in Championship history. They

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had Trafford, who overperformed every metric England youth international looks
destined to play as England's number one within the next
ten years. But they've come up. Trafford's gone, c Jgan,
Riley's gone. That defense has been partly dismantled Parker. You
guys had a good old fashioned debate about Parker's credentials.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Obviously, his track record in the Premier League is poor.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I think he's got a relegation on his CV and
he's been sacked the other time after it's born if
we're in it, after he got bat at at Anfield.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
But what you think Joys he developed as a manager.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Well, the weird thing for me. Sorry is I was
going to say that I came round to Scott Parker.
He was always in my mind. You've got to appreciate
how good he was in the Championship, but particularly last
season he did. Think he's really developed as a manager here.
And it's easy to say, oh, yeah, we just spent
loads of money and you've got really good squad and
you can just go up in the Championship. Well it's
not always the case, and we've seen it before, the
teams haven't done it. And I kind of really came
around to him as a coach last season and then

(46:35):
he goes into the Premier League and it just doesn't
look he's got a squad that's going to allow him
to compete. That's basically what now, seemingly, weirdly, what's going
to hold Burnley back.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
He feels weirdly like Leicester last year.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
I know they've not lost their manager, but Lester managed
to just romp their way to the title. But then
the optimism just disappeared before a ball that even kicked.
That you feel like it's just inevitable relegation and that
is what it feels like with Burnley unless they can

(47:07):
pull some.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Really good signings out late in the window.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Then arguably Sunderland have done the best summer business out
of the three promote clubs, which is astonishing for a
playoff winner that finished were almost.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Thirty points behind Leeds and Burnley. Is crazy.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
I've actually slowly come round to the idea that the
three that have come up and just going to go
straight back down again, which is why I would be
would be looking more towards the bigger prize sides for relegation.
I actually disagree with Jimmy on Everton and David moy
is coming out last week and saying that he thinks
they still need to make ten new signings to have
a competitive Premier League squad, and it was only a

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couple of weeks earlier that he was saying how difficult
the summer had been in terms of rebuilding the team.
After that he let so many players go that he
still sees he sees Everton as a big team and
what he's found really difficult is reconciling with the fact
that you look back through all the previous years and
they've been in a relegation battle every single year for

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years and years. So teams see Everton as I'm not
sure if I want to go there because we're going
to be battling against relegation all season, so then they
can't sign the players that they want going into a
new stadium. It's very, very fifty to fifty whether a
team will go there and they will struggle to adapt immediately,
or if they get that big lift. A lot of

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Everton's upticking performances came using Goodison, using that fan base
to get the results that they needed to pull away
from danger. They're not going to have that brand new
feeling for them like it is for every other team.
So I think a lot of question marks with Ether
and they're eight to one to be relegated. I know
they never have been, but yeah, question marks about them

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for me.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, the standout price in the relegation market for me
is lead that odds against for other reasons she just said,
because like Lester Burnley, like unbelievable quality in the Championship,
but it still means you're a long way off in
the Premier League. Like what was it Luton relegated twenty six,
Leicester twenty five, the top achieving relegated clubs across the

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last two seasons.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
It used to be needed to get forty points to
stay up.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Now it's like now it's like if any other team
gets thirty, they've got.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
A great chance of staying up.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
And the thing is with leads is why I'm a
bit confused. Is the squad brilliant for the Championship, underlying
metrics brilliant in the Championship, but I still think it's
a long way short in the Premier League. But the
main thing for me is they've kept Parker Like Parker
is a man with a terrible record in the Premier League,
and what serves him so well in the Championship possession.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
You'll be able to tell us more.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
But open possession based territory, they're just suffocating, squeeze the
team back.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
I saw it at Brownan Lane. It was unbelievable with.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Po Bogul so high, so wide interchange in front four
allowed your midfielder is to get so much possession in
the Premier League, that's just going to get picked apart.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
And you've kept him.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
And he said in the recruitment, seems to be that
they're going to are they going to change to a
four three three?

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Maybe Perro false nine look to be harder to beat.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
But I just look at the squad in Farker's track record, does.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
He is he?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Is he a proven entity? Playing any other way then
the way he gets promotion, I don't know. Would you
not be in better getting somebody more equipped to making
your hard to beat? And you look at the signings himself.
Long Staff seems like a good one that suits. So
party was but a long way away from a team,
a squad of Premier League quality that's going to be
able to get your thirty points. I think I think
I'll be shocked if you get more of The.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Lingering doubt in my mind was that days after Leeds
won the title, it came out that they were going
to sack Parker. Although were thinking about sacking Daniel Parker,
there was clearly something in that. There was clearly something
in that. There was a bit of a period of uncertainty.
They then came out and clarified he is the man
that's going to take it to the Premier League. That
made signings this summer for the first team, I think

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with confidence you can only say three of them are starting,
Lucas Perry and gold Gabrielle Goodmunson at left back, and
Yakobiel center back as well. You feel will definitely start
long staff Anton Stack. How he makes up this midfield three,
because you've obviously got out to Nacha and Ethan and
Perdu there as well, is still uncertain what he goes for,

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so there's a problem there. He set himself. The attacks
just not up to the standard at the moment. They've
not replaced Monarch Solomon, They've not got a starting striker in,
which is what they needed, and there's still kind of
a couple of places in that team that still needs
that more quality, needs starting players to come in now.
The way they've operated, and this has been the case

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for ever since the current ownership took full control three
summers ago, they do like to work in the background.
There gets frustration among supporters where you read transfer rumors
and you see everything your team's not involved in it,
and then you go into this mindset of where they're
sat around and they're doing nothing yet time and time again,
and they've done it this window with a couple of

(52:09):
the signings. The first year we'll hear about the signing
is two hours before they sign it, because he's already
in the building. He's already signed. They've just not announced
it yet. Now we'll tell them that we've signed them
and all we're closing it on a deal a few
hours later. There he is all presented in the shirt.
So they do like to work in the background. They
have proved to be shrewd operators in terms of the
transfer market as well. You look at the players they've targeted,

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a lot of them were last year of contracts. The
only one I think he probably wasn't. I think it
was Lucas Perry who they've obviously tried to capitalize a
bit on Leon's situation. So there should be more to
come before the end of the window. It's just the
start of the season and how costly that will be
playing Everton at home. Newcastle are coming to Ellam Road

(52:51):
as well with their own transfer issues Arsenal away, you know,
not expecting them to do anything there as well. So
it's just that transfer activity and not having a side
in place yet which could ultimately then cost them further
down the line. But that's the only thing. And the
two things in my back on mind are the Farker
talk on his future and how long they'll give him

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if it doesn't go well. Will they go right, we're
going to have to make a change immediately. We're not
going to make an error. We're not going to take
a gamble on him being able to turn around. But
in the background, knowing how they operate, it wouldn't surprise
me if they turn around and the days before they
kick off Monday night football against Everton that actually they've

(53:33):
made two significant signings and here they are, and we've
been working on them because we didn't want anyone to
hijack the deal as they've seen interest in igor Patch.
How was it from final got taken by Marseille A
bit like the Rafenia sort of signing that they felt
it was a level above them, but they thought they
could get it done. So it's happened before. They've had

(53:53):
deals hijack, so I think they want to kind of
keep it out of the media as much as they can. So, Yeah, uncertain,
very uncertain at the moment. But I suppose if you're
trying to say value of teams to go down, if
the trend's going to continue, then price alone then it
probably would be done.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
The carveat is Southampton I tipped the last season to
get relegated.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
They was six to four.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Not a trumpet, but I was just saying they were
six to four the playoff promoted team, the fourth best
team in the league over the course.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Of the season from the Championship two seasons ago.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Southampton was six to four to go down and there
wasn't a doubt in any of our minds with Russell
Martin as manager that they were going to go down.
It was only Lester's impending points tally points deduction that
never came to fruition was the reason we didn't a
lump on them to finish bottom of the league. I
think from memory, but I look at the prices this year.
I'm not having anything in the relegation market. But it's

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just there's just nothing. There's just nothing, too much uncertainty just.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
To go back onto Leeds. The port don't want to
make catch as well. The Giants were all signing Giants
and they are going to become It's quite interesting how
teams approach the Premier League and you go ah, some
go technical, some going Leeds.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
We need six foot four, six foot five players.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yaka be all Sebastian Baurn Now I think Gabriel Goodmunson
six foot six foot one is tall for a left back.
You've obviously got Anton Stack six foot four, Lucas Perry
six foot five, and o'melia six foot six, so doesn't
count for much on there. But they are going down.
That's a net loss the physical route there, which is
going to be particularly interesting to see if they can
stay up. The one thing I would say on the

(55:23):
relegation battle is that we talked about it for ages
and this time last year. If you look at the
teams that were in the Premier League, I would say
that Wolves were probably the only side that we could
poke holes in about having any concerns about them. I
don't think there was with any other team in the
Premier League, not even Forest. I was a bit worried
about them last year and I look how that turned out.

(55:45):
Tom was hot on them, but there wasn't really anyone
you look at the rest of the teams. I do
think there is a chance there is an actual chance
for the promoted teams this year because Brentford changing manager,
Wolves still upheaval and losing players, west Ham going bad
for Graham Potter, Everton new stadium and can't sign players.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Forest regression. Bournemouth lost to major players, full of not
signed anybody at all this summer. So the Pallace European football,
there are reasons to be optimistic as a promoted club,
whereas last year it looked like there was literally no chance.
So I do think it could be more interesting.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
If you're a believer of that weird stuff from elite's perspective,
imagine if they won that play off final twelve months
ago that actually is it better that they didn't? Now
when they're coming up and for the reasons you've outlined
there that you're going probably do have a little bit
of a better chance of staying potently, let's wrap up.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
No, no, no, go on, go on there before we go,
because betts have been stings.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
You can we talk about the tops scoring market?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yes, go on, anyone got any pets? No no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no. I don't like this market. You know, I
thought you love talking really messing around.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I've got done that for you.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Oh cheers.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
I've got someone I've got I'll just write a lot
of these. Yeah, these best bets I've got So Cole
Palmer twenty to one top scorer. Yeah, I'm really really
surprised that that's available.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I know you're trying to thrattle them off, but the
connection he's already got, which al Pedro having had to
watch someone Chelsea games in the Club Cup, it seems
like in jail Pedro he's finally got a striker on
his sort of football brain wavelength.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
What is that football brain?

Speaker 3 (57:30):
I think I'm I'm going to have that myself. That
that Parmer Price looks brilliant.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
And then the other one was Omama Mouschert fifty to one.
I think he was brilliant after he signed for Manchester
City in January and could easily see him playing off
the left a lot this season and trying to be
that additional gold threat for early harl And you get
these quarter odds for places. So the motion one I
really like. And then it's a similar kind of bet.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
This is a bet I really really like.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
So Martin Odergard is twenty to one to provide the
most assists in the Premier League this season. Last season
he wasn't great, but I really do think that this season,
after the signs they've made, they'll be playing more fluid football.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
They regress to kind of relying.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Too heavily onset pieces long throws and stuff last year.
The jump up in price to martinoder Guard is enormous.
So you've got in the betting, Sakka, Salavertz, Palma, Fernandez,
they're all single figure odds, and then it goes up
from nine to one to twenty to one for martinoder Guard.
He's always around ten assists a season. This is usually
one at about thirteen's thirteen assists. Again, it's four places

(58:39):
quarter odds, so that I'm very, very surprised that the
odds are so big for oder Guard.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I do have too, God forgot knowingly. Jake's on one
so lanky. I think he's about thirty to one. He
was thirty Freese, but I think he's been nibbled in
a bit. I'd still take the twenty.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Fives, twenty eights available. What is he with Sky?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah, twenty eight obviously four places the there's a few things.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
Yes, he's thirty three is with plenty of firms, plenty
plenty of reputable ones there.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
It's just you might not have accounts with them anymore.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Oh yeah, he's thirty three fair Yeah, perfect.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
So the Thomas Frank obviously I mentioned it before Visa
and Buemel got Fitt and Ae goles between them. I
think if it won twenty one nineteen Selanki scored nineteen
in his last season at Bournemouth and crucially for this market,
with sun goating, I think he'll be on penalties, so
each way turns out and then I've just had a
punt on Illumin and Jai same reasons. X Chef United

(59:41):
probably has something to do with it, but he was
their penalty taker. He finished their season as the starting
number ten. I don't know if it was four four
to two, but watching him, he were definitely in behind
the striker and I've already referenced it, but Moy's doubled
their goals per game, so he's a much bigger price.
It was two hundreds, I think he's one hundred and fifties.

(01:00:01):
That's just a punt, but yeah, it's if you wanted
a little punch, just a little fun, if you want
to take on Early Norland because he's obviously such a
short prize six to five and then you got most
Salar nine to two.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
But he'll be going to after this this coming winter, which.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
I actually would do it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
I could do his goal separate podcast and Tom saying
he doesn't like the goal scorer. I actually bloody love him.
I'm only messing the problem with this one is obviously
we don't know where he's going to end up. I
actually think Easak is a better in the top goalscorer
market because he stays at Newcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Is going to score all the goals. He goes to Liverpool, He's.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Going to get so many chances, and Harlan is really short,
salary is really short, and it just opens it up
and he's like six or seven to one. I think
straight win is where you'd be going there. So there
are there is plenty to go out there when some
of the other more traditional outright markets are like less

(01:00:58):
less fancied.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Wrap up because we waffled on a lot about everything
Premier League there before we do. I want everyone to
give title winner top goal scorer, and your three teams
to go down. Joe'll start with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
You, so title winner.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
I've already said Liverpool top goal scorer. This is for
a bet rather than who I think it'll be. I'm
going to go Cole Palmer at twenty to one, and
then the three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Teams to go down. I think it's the three promoted teams.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Jimmy, Yeah, I'm going to Arsenal to win the league.
Not necessarily from a betting point of view, No bet
for me there. Bet for the top goal scoring market.
It's a lanky free to come up go down in
my opinion, no bet there either. But I'll sneak in
Brighton on the handicappers an actual bet I'm really excited about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Right in top six for me as well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah, should have said actual bet?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Should I? You got going down?

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Same for you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Same three?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Yeah, I have to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I'll take Liverpool to win the title top goal scorer,
just from a betting perspective, just as the price of
one hundred and fifty to one organ strand last and
the Wolves either scores lots of goals for Wolves who
I'll come to a minute, think I'll go down, or
someone panics late in a window January, this window or
whatever it takes, a new ass or someone like that goes.
We need a striker, will take him. But he had

(01:02:15):
a fantastic season for Wolves last time out, so I'll
take him a top goalscorer. I'll double up as the
best bet. Why not the price as well to go
that each way and the three to go down. I'll
have Burnley, Sunderland and Wolves for a bit of a footage.
I think Leads might just pull out a couple of
mad signings at the end of the window to kind

(01:02:37):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
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