Earth vs Soup Ep 270 - Cult Of The Cobra (1955) - ThisWeekInGeek

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But aren't you fellows ever positive only about doomsday?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What could be worse than disappointing a little girl disappointing
a big girl.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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was it just for zumbly as we've seen attitude to
it since we gave to a few low cabbages an
intellectual tarrot.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
That mind boggles you see you see your stupid lives.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Stupid, stupid, I said Santa Claus.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Long enough, we will.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Bring him to Mars. I've been afraid a lot of
times in my life, but I didn't know the real
meaning of fear until until I kiss peck me. One
thing will be clear. It's not from man to interfere
in the ways of God's life.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to Earth Versus Soup Episode
two seventy. I'm Aaron Pollier and I'm Darling. We have
a special guest tonight. I'll let her introduce herself.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hi, everyone, my name's Katie Baron.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
We invited Katie onto this episode because we found a
movie that number one she might enjoy. Some you like
movies from this era. I know that that at least
you've expressed interest in movies from this era. Maybe not
science fiction or horror.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
But it's definitely a sort of side genre from what
I usually watch. But for sure in that era, I'm
always interested in anything there.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Okay, okay, And we thought, boy, we're going to invite
you on because we want to hear your opinions on
this movie. Katie and and I have known each other
for at least a few years, several years. Let's say
that we've fixed now something like that. Yeah, and we've
we've talked a lot about this era. Let's put it

(02:13):
that way. Katie does reenacting with us, because we talk
about reenacting a lot in these episodes, especially when we
see World War Two equipment, in specific Soviet equipment when
we see it, and some of the real garbage movies
that we've seen, believe it or not, have had really
good Soviet impressions in them.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Compared to that doesn't shock me, it's really shocked me.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
But like the movies themselves, like some of the worst
movies we have watched, like Rocket Attack USA or Invasion USA,
they have like some some dude, some schlubby dude with
like a full beard and mustache two hundred and seventy
five pounds, but wearing a legitimate Soviet uniform and carrying

(02:56):
a PPSh with the drum bag, and you're like, where,
where where did you get this, sir? That kind of thing.
But yeah, we talk about reenacting a lot, but.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Tonight, I mean, oh, go ahead, we should just say
that it's not just that we've been reenacting together. I
am your unit commanders.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yes, that's right, she bosses us around.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I do.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah. So tonight's tonight's movie that we're going to be
talking about is Cult of the Cobra from nineteen fifty
five March March nineteen fifty five, so this is before
I need to look at my notes. See I have this.
You said it was filmed in March. I have its
release date as August fifth, nineteen fifty five, and it

(03:40):
is actually starring Faith Demure, who is a New Orleans native.
We have talked about movies of hers before, especially This
Island Earth, which we did for one of our very
special episodes. Did we do it for episode two hundred? Maybe?
I can't remember. Anyway, This Island Earth came out a

(04:01):
month and a half before this movie on June fifteenth,
nineteen fifty five. So Faith Demuir was actually very busy
this year.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's eighty two minutes long.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, black and white, yep, Okay, I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Have I have something written here that I can't read.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Oh, okay, well, fair enough. Otherwise, we just have some
background that well, Katie, you wanted to talk about a
little bit of background on this movie with the because
the movie centers around people from the tenth Army Air Corps.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yes, And I found that particularly fascinating, just because the
tenth Air Force or tenth Army Air Corps is rarely
mentioned when it comes to pop culture references. And I
think that really stems from the fact that this is
part of the CBI or the China Burma India Theater

(04:56):
in World War Two. And the reason for me why
that tends to be very sort of put aside is
just because I think a lot of people sort of
wrap that into the Pacific in general. And granted, yeah,
it is part of the Pacific Campaign to an extent,
but the CBI was its own unique theater, and so

(05:19):
that's why when we start the movie off initially in
what the movie calls Asia nineteen forty four, that really
started to pique my interest immediately because eventually, of course
we learned that it's part of the Tenth, and that
these folks are part of the Tenth in various capacities.
They don't necessarily say what their roles are at any

(05:41):
given time. They are a bunch of just enlisted guys,
so we really don't have a lot of background information
on what they're doing there. However, from what I was
able to find about the Tenth was that a lot
of these folks were part of the Hump originally, and
that Hump Airlift would have been, you know what was

(06:03):
part of the China India Ferry with all of the
planes of course going across trying to get the supplies
over and that of course is a pretty famous part
of World War Two over there. So at that point,
eventually it just becomes part of the Army Air Corps essentially,

(06:24):
and that Hump Lift is given to the given to
the Air Transport Command, So that is sort of the background.
Of course, folks stayed there and they continued to supply
folks there. It seems to be one of those things
where we have a bunch of the bomber groups, a

(06:46):
couple fighter groups, but a lot of times a lot
of them were not very well supplied, which I found
really interesting as well. So again it's just it was
just a very very interesting place to sort of start
us off with, a very interesting group to start us
off with, and I think that it really did set

(07:07):
the scene, of course, for what eventually transpires. But I
also think it boils down to hinting at sort of
the fear or the mysticism of Asia and the orient
that a lot of folks back then carried over and

(07:28):
again had sort of preconceived notions of beforehand, but then
also kind of came back with them, And I think
it does really set it up for a interesting suspense
or sort of horror that would have been very resonating
with folks that were in that theater with that sort

(07:51):
of background that they had at the time.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
For sure. I also think I remember reading that the
Tenth Army Air Corps had the Flying Tigers folded into
it after they made it to China, and it to
me in the beginning of this film, while it does
say like nineteen forty five Asia, I think it feels

(08:15):
more like India, Burma rather than China. So that's why
It immediately made me think of early forty five, and
maybe these guys for the rest of the movie were
demobilized before the end of the war, but that's questionable.
Like Darlinge and I were really trying to figure out
like exact dates, even though they never talk about it,
just from what we see, because.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
They see, Yeah, they're going home real soon after the bizarre.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, like they're being sent home because the war is done,
which means this should be in China theoretically, But I
think they're probably just making some sort of like generalized.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I don't think they wanted it to be too specific. Yeah,
I mean, I do agree that it definitely has more
of a India sort of flare to it in my mind,
but at the end of the day, you know, it
could also be even in the Middle East. So I
think the ambiguity is probably what they were going for,

(09:14):
just because there was just so much of the sort
of superstitions across the board and everything. And of course
we can't discount the idea that folks back then weren't
necessarily looking to differentiate between Chinese Indian. Yeah, for sure,
definitely was an element of that as well.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, there's broad generalizations that definitely happen in a lot
of these movies. So let's talk about the plot. What
we usually do on the show is we go through
scene by scene as best as we can try to
talk about what happens in it. If something really makes
us feel joy in it, we'll like laugh and talk
about it, or if something really stands out as being awful,
we'll stop and just go, oh good. But I like

(09:57):
how the movie starts with these US service in their
tenth Army Air Corps, you know, service uniforms. I mean
they have the tenth Army Air Corps patch on their
on their sleep, on their shoulder, excuse me. And there
I wrote down that it looks like a Middle Eastern
market that they're walking around, and one wants to take
photos of just everything. But they they go up to

(10:18):
a guy that is a snake charmer and he has
a cobra in a little snake basket. You know, you
know exactly what I'm talking about when I say snake
charmer and he's got a snake in a basket.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I think we've all seen the Bugs Bunny cartoons exactly.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
And one of them says, hey, I'll give you two
dollars to hold the cobra, and the guy's like, hey, sure,
takes the two dollars, takes the cobra out, the cobra's fine,
you know, all right? Cool. So they end up talking
about how they want to see more strange things before
they go home. I shouldn't say strange, but like things

(10:54):
they're not used to. And this guy's like, well, you know,
maybe I can for a little bit more money, I
can take you to a meeting that you might really like.
And he starts describing that he's a part of a
cult effectively called the Lamians. I think that's what it is. Lommians. Lomians, Lommians,

(11:20):
excuse me.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
And the amount is one hundred.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
One hundred dollars, so yeah, And they also have one
of these guys had talked to a doctor from earlier
in the war that told him about a cult of
women from this area that would change into snakes and
they had that name. So this sounds really cool. And
this is where the snake charmer is like, oh wait

(11:46):
a second, these guys might know a little too much.
Maybe this was a bad idea, but okay, I'm in
for it. Yeah, and he's going to get one hundred dollars,
which is a lot of money back then, especially for
like this area.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Fun story about that. So one hundred dollars in nineteen
forty four is worth one thousand, seven hundred and ninety
nine dollars and thirty nine cents today.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, So that's an incredible amount of money for just
a snake charmer in the middle of you know, in.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Your pocket randomly.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, but they might might have gotten cashiered out and
they're going home soon, so they have like a few
months back pay, I don't know. And they did pool
their money for it. They did pool it, so okay,
no problem. The snake charmer looks shocked that this guy
knows about it, and he says, look, if you're willing
to pay, I'll show it. And we learned that one
of the main characters is named Paul. Okay, Paul is

(12:40):
actually our leading man, played by Richard Long. He's been
in many, many movies. Maybe we should talk about some
of the other actors and actresses that are in this
I already mentioned Faith Demure, Richard Long. We have Marshall Thompson,
who has done an amazing amount of movies that we
have done for Earth versus soup. The woman that really
stands out to me is the other female leading character

(13:04):
in this who's played by Kathleen Hughes. She's been in
Like It Came from outer Space. If you go onto
internet movie database, like her actress picture is a still
from It Came from Outer Space. So we've already reviewed
that movie. I just thought i'd mentioned these people. So

(13:25):
we have Paul, He's like, Okay, I'm in charge. Everyone's
kind of looking to Paul for leadership and he's like, okay,
we'll go. So that night they go to a bar
and in the bar we actually see some pretty cool things.
They're all talking and I know that you wanted to
mention the women that are in the background, at least

(13:46):
one of the women.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, So that was something that caught my eye for sure,
just because of course I do World War Two women
reenacting just generally. So the one lady in the background
is actually whack, and not just any sort of whack.
She's actually in an off duty dress, which is somewhat
rare to see. And I mean it's somewhat rare to

(14:11):
see in general because a lot of times when we
have the pictures of them, you know, of course it's
some of it was private purchase, some of it was
just you know, they didn't take pictures necessarily at the
time that they were wearing the off duty dresses like
we see with the Army Nurse Corps. So to see
a whack in an off duty dress in that context

(14:31):
was just a really neat, small but important detail for
me at least, because it's something even like with with
modern movies, it's just something that would go over a
lot of producers heads. So to put that into the
script and to put that into the costuming really shows
that whoever was working with this production, you know, on

(14:52):
whatever level it was, definitely understood the context in which
they were placing this. Not only that, but also probably
worked with these ladies at some point in time and
knew about what they would be wearing at the time too.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, that is impressive to me seeing that level of
production attention to detail. Yes, in a lot of movies
we really don't get that. It's a sign of really
good I don't know, just good care, right, like we
don't see a lot of movies.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well, it could be the case of somebody in the
background knowing that information because it's not too far from.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
It is possible. I mean, this isn't too far divorced
from World War Two. So it might have been that
she really was a whack as a young woman, and
just to say that to bring her uniform in, which
would have been really cool, that like production allowed that
and let her do that. Who knows. Regardless, it shows

(15:53):
attention to detail.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like you said, yeah, I mean, you know, it's one
of those things because when you look at like White
Christmas and in White Christmas, it's not that they're in
incorrect stuff, but it's not that they're incorrect stuff either.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Absolutely. Okay, so we have we have this bar, there's
the women in uniform. I wrote down. Daru the snake
charmer shows up and they have to go to the
temple disguised in robes. Now, my thought was, as soon
as we see them putting on all these robes, these
dudes look incredibly fishy. It looks like they're trying to hide.

(16:33):
It looks like they're I don't know, it looks like
they're to no good. But that's fine. I guess everybody
else in there is in robes, so fine. They're there.
They enter the temple and a priest bows to a
really cool sculpture that we originally saw on the credits,
and it's like the snake sculpture. There's flames, and two

(16:56):
cult members do a dance or a fight, like a
ritualized fight where they're not really fighting, it's just play acting,
but it's really well done. And then a woman comes
up out of one of these like terra cotta snake
pots and she's in a skin tight a skin tight
outfit that is painted with like scales and whatnot. And

(17:19):
for nineteen fifty five, that looked pretty good.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
That was really a sort of risque detail. It was
very interesting, It was very artistic. Yeah, for nineteen fifty five.
It was definitely a reach and definitely something that I
don't think that if you ever told me that this
would have been something that I would have seen in

(17:43):
a nineteen fifty five movie, that I would have believed
you before I seeing this.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, she also held her legs together as if it.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Was one, Yeah, as a snake tail or something, Yes.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
As a snake tail. So it was very much a acrobat.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Well, I don't know, she was maybe a composionist of
some sort. Yeah, And it is strange that this is
in nineteen fifty five. Again, there's like a couple times
that we have seen in movies where there's something that
feels really ahead of time, drag like the drag race
at Well No, No, the Haunting at Dragstripollo has that

(18:23):
with one of the characters. I know this is a
movie that Katie, you haven't seen, but we watched it
fairly recently, and one of the women in there had
this is like nineteen fifty seven, fifty eight, something like that,
and she had a very risque costume at one point
at a costume party, a Halloween costume party, that felt

(18:44):
like it would have been perfectly normal in like a
nineteen nineties cosplay like cosplay, like it was very ahead
of time, and you would not have seen that normally
at any costume party in the nineteenth these or even sixties.
It would have just been too much. So anyway, we
have this this dance and one of the service guys

(19:08):
has a camera. Nick. Nick has a camera. Is the
camera accurate?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I don't know, but you have friends who would know.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I do, Yeah, we do. We know a person that
loves those period cameras, but he has a flash because
Nick is an idiot, of.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Course, he's got a flash.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
I mean he's got a big flash and he wants
to take a picture. So he has like memories of
this secret cult meeting, but he's gonna take it with
a flash, so he takes it out, he snaps a picture,
and suddenly there's a big fight where all the US
service members have to basically fight their way out of

(19:56):
the cult's compound and it's all because of the guy
with his flash. But one of the guys sets a
fire before they leave, starting the temple up in flames.
I don't know that was okay, Yeah, you're gonna get
away because everyone's paranoid about putting out the fire. But wow, dudes,

(20:19):
that's that's pretty underhanded there.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, it was quite dramatic for trying to get away
because you couldn't not use a flash.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah yeah, and then Daru was killed here and then
as all the guys flee and a Willis Jeep again awesome,
always seeing Willis Jeep. The guy that took the picture,
Nick is just like in the road, he ran ahead and.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
He had stole a basket with a snake.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, with a he stole a basket with a snake.
But we see a woman in a black cloak lit
with a kirklight. Remember, her eyes are just lit up
in that kind of mortitia. I always call it a
kirklight because of Star Trek. When Captain Kirk sits in
the center chair, he gets that light across his eyes.
It's all dramatic, but we see and and we know

(21:08):
exactly who it is because of her eyes. It's Faith Demure.
She has very distinctive eyes. And she moves away in
this black cloak. And at this point Nick is still alive,
but he has fang marks on his neck.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
And you forgot about the plate priests cursing them.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Oh yeah, the priest does curse. The US service members
were setting fire to the temple and stealing one of
their sacred snakes. Yes, that did happen, and that's kind
of important to think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, no, no,
that's true. So the sergeant we have, we have, Paul,
cuts the wound open and sucks out the poison and

(21:46):
they get him to the hospital. They throw him in
the Willis jeep. They get him at the hospital and
this is where we go, like to the next day,
and there's a nurse. Now she was also in technically
in uniform, wasn't she.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yes, it was also another cool catch too.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Okay, I think that she was an officer though, like
I thought that she had like a lieutenant's bars made.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, so all Army Nurse Corps officers are going to
be officers. So you would have had a college degree
or some sort of nursing degree, so a higher education,
and that would have put you in as an officer.
There were some instances of folks that kind of got
into the Army Nurse Corps, but for the most part,

(22:30):
everybody would have been an officer. So yeah, so she
would have been a lieutenant. Whether that was first or second,
I couldn't tell necessarily, of course. But what was really
cool about her was again the detail of the uniform
being a ward dress. So that dress was a seersucker dress,
and that is another very sort of specific uniform to

(22:55):
the theater that would have been overlooked in a lot
of because a lot of times with Hollywood, of course,
when we see nurses, we equate white, the white ward dress,
and of course you know that that sort of style
of the cuff and collar and all that stuff that

(23:15):
we're used to. And so again this really did speak
to me. Of somebody who knew women's clothing from the era,
or the uniforms of the era, or you know that
there was somebody who experienced that because the seersucker dress
is also interesting in that theater because with the basically

(23:39):
with the supply chain issues that would have come a
little bit later. So yeah, it would have been right
around the time of nineteen forty four or so. And
also it's interesting because you would have seen it pretty
primarily in buildings in that context at the time, and
that's mostly because the seersucker is terrible for washing, so
it would have been really heavy and hard to wash.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Now, what kind of fabric is it? Because when I
wrote when I wrote my notes here, I said, yeah,
it's definitely not a white dress, but it looked like
some sort.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Of khaki, So it's a it's a cotton poplin striped dress. Okay,
So basically, see, your sucker is cotton.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, I don't have the level of
detail knowledge that you do, of course, but I just
I just noted down in my notes this is clearly
not your stereotypical nurse's uniform.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, and I also really liked it because of the
way that she was wearing the cover, the the sort
of corresponding cover with it's it's not necessarily like a handkerchief, look,
but it kind of is. It's not again, your your
typical nurse's cap with the comb to hold it on,
and it's a very soft cap. And so the way

(24:56):
that she's wearing it at sort of this like jaunted
angle is something that I had never seen before. So
I usually you wear it straight on the head and
kind of towards the back of your head. Okay, So
it was a really interesting way that they had her
wearing it.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Now it's possible, it's possible that she actually served in
the war in that position because that actress's name was
Mary Allen Holkinson and she's from Evanston, Illinois, born in
late nineteen sixteen. Now I don't have the information if
she actually served or not, but I just thought that

(25:35):
was an interesting, you know, just a piece of information
to bring up. Yeah, So where was I here? Okay,
So it's raining out and this is after the nurse
like shoes, all of Nick's friends away. He's being treated.
He's been treated for the wound, he's been treated for

(25:55):
the poison. It's not in a system because his friend
Paul sucked it out. Good for him. He's recovering, so
it's raining out and then a snake crawls through the
window into Nick's hospital room. Nick screams as he's attacked,
and we learned the next morning that he has been
he has died, and the doctors are completely you know,

(26:18):
confused about this because he was getting better, there was
no poison in a system, and it turns out they
test it again. Yeah, he's just full of cobra venom. Well,
how the hell did that happen again? Will he must
have been bitten again. Well, that's really bad luck. But
he says, look, guys, there's nothing I can do. There's

(26:42):
nothing that says fall play here fine, And then Paul
and all the rest of the guys are like, well,
it's time to go home. I guess that really sucks
at our friend died, because they are actually all tore
up about it. These guys are clearly close and are
good friends. They all seemingly come from New York City.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, they were clearly in it for a length of time,
so we probably could have seen them being friends maybe
from you know, nineteen forty two to the current time
or nineteen forty three.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
So they bore to C forty seven, which is always nice,
and they're talking and chatting about like how awful losing
losing Nick right before they got to go home is
because I guess this group of friends really did sort
of pull through the entire war together and this has
really hit them hard. We get back to New York

(27:34):
and we meet Paul's fiance Julie. Okay, and Julie is
that the other woman that I mentioned Kathleen hughes her?
Actually her name is Julia in the movie. I just
I always call her Julie in my notes. I apologize,
and Paul and her go to one of his buddies,

(27:54):
Bowling Alleys, because that's that's like the business. That's Rico.
Oh yeah, Big Rico's Pizza. Yeah, okay, anywhere it goes Rico.
That was a night veil thing. Every time I heard Rico,
I was like, big Ricoh yeah, yeah it was. That
was funny. But so we learned from jul Julia that

(28:16):
she's marrying Paul, and she tells Tom, which is another
member of this friend group, that look, please don't be upset.
I know that we sort of had a thing, but
I want to be friends. I'm with I'm with Paul.
Look I I love you and respect you, but I'm
not marrying you. We're not together. And and Tom, Tom,

(28:36):
he's a little tore up about this. He clearly had
a thing for Julia too. But that's okay. It seems
like he's just a little tore up. But that's okay.
Everyone can move forward. You know, it's the end of
the war. They're probably filled with a lot of optimism,
and any other time it would have really wrecked Tom. Maybe,
I don't know, that's my opinion. That night, Paul hears

(29:02):
a dog, a dog clawing and yapping at the door.
It's his dog in the kitchen. And this is this
is a strange part of the movie. Paul and Tom
their roommates, okay, and they have a really nice apartment
for New York City, and they seemingly just keep a
dog in the kitchen and do nothing with him. Like

(29:22):
this dog just seemingly lives in the kitchen and they
just shut him in all day, Like oh, all right,
that's a little awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Feels like the cat in the bathroom in Nightvale too.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, the cat hat just floats in the bathroom.
This dog just sits and winds inside the kitchen and
they shut off the lights too. They don't keep the
lights out of the kitchen. They shut off lights, close
the door, and the dog just lays there in its
bed morose. I don't know. I felt for this dog man.
So boy, he goes across the hall and there's a scream. Okay,

(29:58):
so they hear a scream.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
That was Tom.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
That here's Tom. Here's a scream, A woman's scream yup,
and he goes across the hall, burst through the door.
There is Faith Domuir. She's in it. I guess. So
this is like a it's a really nice apartment building.
I guess. So there's apartments on multiple floors. But she
just so happens to be across the hall.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I want to say, it was like a quadruplex or something.
It felt very quadplex to me.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
And they do have like a landlady, don't they. I
think they mentioned that one time in the movie.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Okay, Okay, she says, okay, So Lisa Faith demure. She says,
a man broke in and jumped out of the window,
and Tom checks everywhere and then says he'll call the police.
She begs him not to and that she'll make some coffee. Look,
do you want some coffee? And she says she's not
from here, she just moved. The city is very strange

(30:55):
to her, like she's just not used to any of this.
Now she puts on the charm. Faith Demure has a
way of acting if you have seen this Island Earth,
where she does these micro expressions really really wild, and
she pours it on in this right Darlene. Like, we
watched this and we were like, oh, she's getting under
his skin. And at the very least the actor of

(31:17):
that played Tom also acts off that and really shows
that she is getting under his skin. And he offers
to shore around. They flirt a little bit and she's, okay, fine,
I'll let you show mirror. I liked this scene even
though it was clearly we know that Lisa is out

(31:38):
to kill everybody, because we know that we kind of
saw her right at the beginning, but she's sort of
charming and maybe she really isn't out to kill everybody,
or she has like a separate motive. Who knows. So
we flashed like the next day and they're out and
about in New York City. They're having coffee and I

(31:59):
don't remember where New York City it was. I thought
I saw a landmark behind it, but behind them having coffee,
it was like an open bar. Coffee bar.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, I thought. I thought he mentioned talking, you know,
taking her to the Statue of Liberty and everything. So yeah,
it was kind of doing that, the basic New York thing.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
And they spend the whole day together. He tries to
kiss her at the end of it, but she acts
like she doesn't want to be like kissed by him,
and she really holds back Okay, you know, no, I
don't want that, and Tom finally goes, okay, fine, maybe
this isn't the right time. Maybe this was sort of
a platonic friend type thing today. But I didn't get

(32:41):
it because of the flirting last night. I don't know,
it felt a little uncomfortable that scene, just because.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
The whole interaction felt uncomfortable to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean, and maybe that's because I'm putting myself in
Lisa's position, But yeah, it was like immediately, you know,
after the guy's taking her out, suddenly it's a oh,
now I'm going to kiss you, even though just last
night you were being like forced on.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, if she's she's probably confused with her orders. She's
got an order too.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well, she's kind of the head of the cult. Well okay, no,
she's not the head of the cult.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
She No, she's she's one of the I guess like
transformative members.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, she's like a priestess, one of the snake priestesses.
Maybe she does have orders, but like anyway, Tom introduces
her to Paul, and she's like, oh, Paul, I remember you.
You're the guy that almost saved Nick and I had
to go back and kill him. That's what's going through
her mind, right, And she she like in my notes
I wrote down, she looks Paul up and down like

(33:49):
he's a piece of meat again, like faith demuor knows
how to like really convey both disgust and uh interest
with the same look. No, no, no, this is this
is right after a whole day out in the York.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Okay, this is immediately home.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
And she looks up and down, and then she studies
a picture of all the pals from back during the
war that they have in their apartment, and she's like, Okay,
who am I going to get first? That's that's what's
going through.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It was basically the hit list.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yep, yeah, it's the hit list. And then then they
make a date for Sunday night. Tom and her make
a date for Sunday night. So Lisa walks around that
night and she walks past a cat that freaks out
because I guess all cats hate snakes, which is true.
Cats don't like snakes.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Cats will attack snakes.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's the whole that's why.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's why snakes down South, it's very we always like
to have a snake. Was to try to keep the
snakes out of your house?

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Well, that's that seems like that's a horror to live there.
I'm very sorry.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Really I had to I had the toilet thing.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Where was a toilet?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
No, yes, you didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Darlene lived Hard Ticket to Hawaii in real life.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I did not go to the bathroom without looking in the.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Toilet because of snakes. Yeah, you lived Hard Ticket to
Hawaii in real life. And if you have not seen
Hard Ticket to Hawaii, it is arguably one of the
greatest shot in nineteen eighties actions not riddled. Well, it's
got a cancer infested snake with Yeah, radioactive cancer infested Snake,
Hard Ticket to Hawaii, Chef's.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Kiss, and I guess I guess that is next excellent.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I will I will describe it to you after we're
done recording. But because this is this is a movie
that you would like to watch with Tony, I guarantee
you you will both be cackling.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Cackling here, I'm thinking, you know, the worst thing to
think about is like the black Widows that might be
in your toilet, you know, the cancer written snakes.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, cancer.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And they reviewed it on this Week in Geek.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh yeah, no, we've on this Week in Geek, We've
uh loose Cannon. We've done a whole Andy Sedaris retrospective
on that on that show. For this it's one of
the few movies that I have well, it's the only
movie that I have a large size movie poster for.
I even have like stickers from that movie that like

(36:31):
I can go into it. I love the movie because
it's it's terrible and glorious at the same time. Anyway, well, yeah,
back back to this movie. Back to this movie. I
know people have heard us talk about Hard Ticket to
Hawaii on our show many times because it actually I
will say this Hard Ticket to Hawaii has like influenced
us on what is acceptable with nudity in these films,

(36:53):
in these films in general, because there is nudity in
a lot of these films that we've watched, as long
as it's consensual and with joy, awesome. That's what most
Andy Sidaris stuff is. It's when there's violence associated with
it that we hate it, and so we call it
the Andy Sidaris rule of nudity. Don't have nudity and
violence together. Don't. And back to this movie. Back to this,

(37:18):
back to this.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Movie, Carl and his roommate Pete host a party.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
No darling, you you're you're, you're ahead already, Rico ahead.
Rico is closing up the bowling alley while Rico Rico's
pizza and bowling alley fun complex. So Lisa walks into
the alleyway and they're like bowling pins start wobbling and
falling all over the place. Uh Rico investigates, he puts

(37:44):
the pin back, and I'm thinking, Okay, if this was
any other movie, he'd reach down grab that pin and
a snake would come out of the out of like
the pen area and bite them.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
No, but it was totally better. It was better.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah, it was. They faked you, They faked you out,
Like nope. He just puts the pin back, walks away
like Okay, good job, good job, you faked me out movie,
and he puts the pin back Outside. Rico gives money
to an old woman.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Which is nice because she's obviously in this conversation you
get the detail that he's given her money before.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, and he's actually seemingly doing like good deeds for people,
which makes it even worse that when he gets into
his car, he's immediately attacked by a cobra. He crashes
his car. Lisa walks away like an absolute boss because
she just murdered a guy that helps out old women.

(38:41):
Ah man, faith, demure, how far are you falling in
a month and a half in this island Earth? She's great.
I love her in this islander. So now we go
to Rico's funeral, and every all the men, all the
remaining men I wrote down, remaining men, talk about how
they were all all told they would die by the
high Priest and how they're all just seemingly dying by

(39:04):
like really terrible beings, and like Lisa's just there kind
of trying to look innocent. Like nothing's going on room,
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, this time, I think she's
hanging around. I don't have her in my notes, but
she's in a lot of the scenes. No. Actually, in
the beginning of the movie, Julia is not really around much.

(39:26):
She's off doing like practicing for the play that she's in.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I was gonna say, wasn't it like a cruise or
something like there was like a practice something.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah, it was a steege play as far as I
as I remember. But Lisa ends up freaking out a
horse because horses sent danger from snakes. I guess they do.
They do, they do?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
They don't like horses. Horses do not like snakes.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
So then we go to dance do We go to
a dance party at Carl's house. Now, Carl is a
ladies man. He might be like the only real jerk
out of the friends group. So does Spat and Lisa
dances very closely with Carl and flirts, and Tom gets

(40:14):
really jealous and ends up punching Carl and then takes
Lisa away, and Lisa's like, Okay, I'm so in discord.
This is exactly what I want because I want them
to be miserable before I bite them to death. Boy,
let's see here Julie comes. We have Julie coming back
to New York from her practice seat. There, I have
it in my notes. Paul asks her to talk to

(40:36):
Tom about Lisa, because Lisa seems to be badly influencing Tom,
like he gets he gets the he gets the feeling
Tom's really not doing well. And Paul says he's actually
kind of scared of her, of Lisa in a way,
she's really giving off the menace, which is true. She

(40:58):
is she looks at him like he's meat.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I mean, she really does look at him with sort
of a dead pan look. Yeah, And I think that
that's the more interesting part of the way that she's
sort of acting within the group is that it's very
sand offish, it's very dead pan, it's very sort of aloof.
So it's not like at any point in time she's
warmed up to anybody. And I think that that would

(41:24):
be maybe a red flag on some parts.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah. And the only time she ever seems to actually
show emotion, like a positive emotion, it's when she's trying
to manipulate Tom or call one of the two. Paul
thinks that it might be all. All these deaths are
clearly linked back to the Snake cult, and Lisa has
to be involved because she showed up then everyone else
started dying. Okay. Back at his place, Tom sees there's

(41:52):
no ice because the party is still going on, and
Lisa lets him leave to get ice from her place.
He's like, yeah, yeah, come on over to my place. Well, uh, Tom,
come on over, we'll get some ice. Lisa asks if
he's still in love with Julia, but he says he's not. Okay,
all right, he's in love with you. Like he goes,

(42:14):
I'm in love with you, Lisa, You've you've completed me.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
They kiss, and Corky the tailor tye uh uh the
dog The dog shakes, oh he hah fear.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Good good dog actor, good dog actor. Like yeah, they
might have stapled him into that dog bed in the kitchen,
so he doesn't move, but that dog shakes when Lisa's around,
Corky the terrier shakes.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Him all the way. I have to say that this
scene to me almost seemed like Lisa is actually developing
sort of a conscience when it comes to Tom in
a way. Yeah, because it feels it feels like once
she was sort of whisked away at the party that

(42:57):
she was somewhat impressed by him in a way, there
was sort of a feeling of you know, oh, he
actually is showing this much emotion, and maybe that was
a new thing. Maybe that's something that you know, she
hadn't seen in her life before.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I completely agree with you. I have I have written
down in my notes that to me, it seems like
Lisa used to be a thing, just a device for
this snake cult, really like an idol or an icon
to worship at. But now that she's experiencing actual human connections,
that there is like emotion starting to bubble up inside

(43:38):
of her as well. I don't know if you got
that as well, Darlene. No Darling hakes her head on
an audio podcast.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
And then you kind of wonder too, if you know
the whole transformation, if that you know that the mind
of the snake is melding into her mind, into her emotions,
and so you know, and what amount of the snake
is part of her, Yes, in the same way that

(44:07):
you know she's part of the snake. So it's I
thought that was an interesting way of sort of showing
that maybe somewhere in her mind, you know, she's not
as as human as we want to see her as
per se. And maybe that's also part of the dead
panning as well.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Maybe it's that she wants to be more than just
the snake dead pan.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yeah, she wants to be that way, but like she's
still compelled to do this, and and that's why she's
like holding off with Tom at the very least, because
this is like the one human connection she seems to have.
I don't know, it's it's interesting, like all of this
is subtext just because of faith Demurr is acting. I
think it's really well done. So they kiss, they actually

(44:51):
do kiss this time, and she says, oh, but I
need to leave, and she takes off. Okay, but she
left her gloves, so Tom takes them over to her apartment.
She doesn't answer the door. He lets himself in like
a jerk would. I don't know. I think that was
a little I.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Can't that the whole apartment coming into thing is just yeah,
and maybe it's because you know, being a female at
this point, it really feels invasive.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, invasive, but it's it's it's what time, what year is? Well?

Speaker 4 (45:31):
I don't think I think this is New York City,
even in the nineteen fifties, that would have been like
you did what?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Okay, because I know that my parents very rarely locked
their door.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Yeah, but single woman and.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
You know, I don't know the dude that's trying to, yeah,
get with her, and suddenly he's just letting herself or
letting himself into her apartment. I mean that would that
would probably not fly.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
So she's not there. She's not there, her windows open,
and Tom decides that he's just gonna sleep on her
couch to wait for her to come back.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
All right, fine, so leaves out the kitchen window.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
She leaves out the kitchen window. She could have like
just walked out the front door.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I think she slithered. Yeah, personally, I think she's slithered
out the kitchen window.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
See her clothes do change with her because we know
this for a fact later on, Okay, anyway, so she
can just be fully clothed in a nice like cocktail
dress and boom she's a snake and then boom, she's
in a cocktail dress. Anyway, we see Lisa walking out
back towards Carl's party because Carl's party is still going on.
It never ends. It's a NonStop party. She waits for

(46:43):
the last guests to leave because now it is ending,
it's just too late. They've run out of liquor, and
she knocks on Carl's door. He lets her in. She
takes off her jackets and then her jacket and then
snap zoom on her eyes like she's like entrancing him
with like snake vision. I don't know it was, it
was like I love it anyway, And I do say

(47:06):
snake vision because I guess she just changes into a
snake right there. Uh, He's bit and falls off the
balcony to his death. He splatters onto the concrete outside
of his apartment building.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Can we talk about though, like how cool? Because I
have this in my notes as well, that that fish
eye filter was for the cobravision. Yeah, so, so cobravision
is definitely a thing, I guess, but yeah, I mean
it was. It was a cool way of churning it
into something more suspenseful.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Absolutely, And this is something that's used a little differently
in some other films, like when it's like Monster Kam
or something like that. But what makes this really good
is the snap zoom to faith dom your's eyes with
like the Kirk light across it. And then suddenly it
just like the camera flips. That's what it feels like.
The camera flips around, so you're looking out of her eyes,
but now it's snake vision like really well done, really

(48:01):
well for Copracam. All right, So Pete who is another
friend who just left from the uh from the party,
and Pete is actually Carl's roommate. Pete has taken in
for the cops for questioning, but he sees Lisa outside.
All right, Oh, we're almost done to the plot, folks.

(48:22):
Tom's asleep in her apartment when when Lisa returns and
says that he wanted he wanted to be here for her,
for her gloves, and she says, no, I was just
out clearing my head and I wrote down and I
can't remember if there's a piece of dialogue here, but
I wrote down she's questioning her beliefs and this is
I don't remember if there's dialogue from her about that

(48:43):
or not, or if there's really good acting involved.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I think it's I think it's more of just her face, Okay,
if I remember correctly, because I don't necessarily remember a
lot of dialogue in that particular. I mean, I think
she may have been stuffing or sort of you know,
been hesitant. Maybe at some point.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I do have some dialogue written down. Oh, she says
that there are things that she must do that she
has no control over, and that she doesn't want to
hurt him, and that she loves him, but she has
no control over it.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Like okay, they're combined with the face expressions for sure.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Yeah. Yeah. So Paul cooks Tom breakfast. The dog is
still in the kitchen shaking this poor dog. I'm so sorry.
Like it's the ongoing joke of when this dog's ever
going to be let outside or fed? I don't know,
like has anxiety, has anxiety?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, I would have anxiety too if I was there.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Paul and Julie are going to get the marriage license today. Paul, Tom,
and Julia learn that Karl is dead, and everyone's like,
oh crap, well one of us is next. Julia is
worried that this is the curse, and she's looking through
tongues of books about cults when Lisa shows up and
we get like the two women talking. This is the
one scene where they're really just kind of together and

(50:08):
chatting and it is it is supposed to be kind
of like this black and white because you have faith, demure,
dark haired, dark eyes. She's in a black dress. I
think she was in a black dress for this. And
then Julia is the blonde, kind of bubbly personality. It's
this you know, mirror type thing with them, and she

(50:32):
has like, Lisa, excuse me, Julia has all these books
about cults, including like cobra cults, because.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Exactly that is exactly what you should be reading.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
That's right. She has access to all this from the
New York Public Library because those are probably also the
books that the Ghost in the Basement stacked, just because
just because cult cobra cults books are not stacked like that.
Humans don't spack books like that.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I have a corner over there.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
No human would stack I do see.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
You don't want to see my stack.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yeah, So Juliett basically blabs about Paul believing in them
all dying from this cult, and and Lisa's like, oh, yeah,
so he does believe that he's going to die. Yeah,
he's a smart man.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I wanted to say. There was the police that calls
and it's a jump scare.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Oh the phone call.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Yeah, it was. It was kind of a jump scare
at that point because it.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Was so at this point, Paul's like he goes down
to the police station. He's like, okay, cops, listen to me.
Lisa's a snake woman. She came from Asia nineteen forty five.
We burned down a snake cult by taking a flash photography.
You know, like he's trying to explain it and boil boy,

(51:55):
the cops are is a lot funnier than it, I know, like, yeah, Paul, Paul,
Paul is not convincing the cop. Lisa, well, Lisa somehow involved.
Tom loses his ship when Paul's trying to explain it
to him, and Paul then tells the whole story to
the cops. Pete takes off. He's done, and we have

(52:17):
we have. We see that Lisa has a cut on
her arm, or at least a wound on her arm.
And it turns out that's like from was it was
it Carl that threw a piece of pocket. Yeah, and
she was wounded as a snake because he.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Carl Carl's apartment cuts Lisa's arm.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
So she goes to get her pet. She says that
I'm going to agree at my passport to prove that
I'm innocent. I'm here as like a normal person. I
am a totally normal human being.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I am not a snake.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
That's right, I am not a snake. And oh yeah,
Leelo Dallas multi pass But then then we see her
shadow change into that of a snake, and uh she
We end up okay, well, we end up having everyone
pretty much believe that she is now involved in all
of this. She seemingly really does love Tom, like the

(53:17):
last time they're together, when they go to Julia's play,
they kiss. It does seem genuine, but maybe she understands
that she's going to not be able to kill everybody,
so she might as well kill everybody else except Tom.
I don't know. So police say that both guys have
both the guys that have died have cobra venom in them,

(53:38):
and they're going to go and pick up Lisa because
clearly she's involved somehow, Okay, because all of this seems connected.
Dor So cops then find Pete's body back at the
apartment at Lisa's apartment, he's completely rent riddled with radioactive
cancer infested snakes.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It is not a radioactive cancer inestive. It's just a cobra.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
It's just a cobra. And then all go to the
opening night of Julia's performance. Paul calls the theater to
talk to Tom and he tells him, look, Tom, dude, everyone
has died from cobra bites. You're next or I'm next,
But I'm with cops. They have guns, they can shoot snakes.
Where are you? Where's Lisa? And he's like, oh, no,

(54:19):
I'm gonna But.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
At this point, Lisa is actually going off script because
she's actually she's actually going for Julia.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't have to kill Julia. She just
wants to kill Julia because she's a threat to her. Cover.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Well, I think it's the conversation that we didn't get
in that one spot where they.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Oh with books and everything.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Yeah, So Lisa goes into Julia's dressing room and a
cobra comes out of the closet. Tom runs in and.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Uh throws the snake out the window.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Oh, using a hat rack. He like grabs a hat
rack and like shovels the snake up and throws it
out the window, and the cops pull up just as
the snake falls in front of one of the cop
cars and it thumps into the ground and everyone's shocked,
and then suddenly there's Lisa's body there instead of a snake.
Tom is devastated.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Well, it looks like somebody actually ran her overall where
she's slay.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Yeah, she's like almost underneath the tire of the cop car.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Tom Caesar kind of huh, life sucks and it just
kind of walks off into the night the end.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
I mean, you know, if you figured out that your
love interest was a snake lady, I mean, and.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
It was going to kill you.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, So what his idea and that thought was, I
need to go see a psychiatrist.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
This this is gonna result in years of therapy.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yes, maybe I should just check myself into the hospital
down the street.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
And so I'm just gonna end up having to have
a few drinks tonight to forget a little bit here.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah. No, but this was a movie. You can tell
that we loved this movie.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
It was fabulous.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
What was out of all the things that are in
this movie, what worked the most for each of us, Katie,
you can go first.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Oh goodness, I I just love the way that it
was set up to be honest, I mean, I really
really loved where and how and why everything was put
into place, and I just really loved the idea that,
you know, this is something that originated from World War
Two and sort of went forward from there in terms

(56:34):
of just how that's a commentary on society at the
time and how World War Two really did impact so
much of life, culture, whatnot. And the fact that this
is definitely something that was you know, based in the
fears and the experiences and obviously, you know, not just

(56:56):
the story itself, but as we're talking about from like
the costuming and everything, it really encompasses so much of
that experience in one movie. And it's not necessarily like
it's a big movie per se. It's just something that
seems very intimate for folks in a lot of ways,

(57:18):
and so I kind of like to think of it
as sort of a snapshot into someone or a collaboration
of folks's experience during the war itself.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Yeah, so a good setup, I can agree with that,
A good set up, A good little personal details that
are in it. Yes, Yeah, absolutely, for Surellos.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Through on their new life in New York, because they're
going and doing their what they wanted to.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Do after the war, they're living their.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Lives, they're starting to rebuild lives and go through Aaron's
going to say the the.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Well, my top thing Faith the Mirror is fantastic, But
I don't think I going to actually say she is
the top thing that I like in this movie though
she is clearly the best actor slash actress. She can
act the chops, She can out act anyone on the screen. Yeah,
but I actually like, I really really like the interactions

(58:18):
between all the characters because they feel like real people,
like they could be real people. And you have this
strange element coming in Lisa that is disrupting things, but
also like in a weird way, healing Tom from like
his his his loneliness, Like yeah, he's lonely again at

(58:38):
the end of the film, but like now he knows
that he's stronger than any of the pain that he suffered,
like he lived through it, he lived through the mistakes
that were made during the war.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
He also realized he wasn't that attractive to Julia and
that even when they were over in Asia they talked
about her between the two.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Yeah, yeah, it helped it. Like I don't know this,
it's an interesting movie in that like that. The characters,
My top thing is the characters feel very real compared
to a lot of these other movies. Yes, Darlene, well
what do you think yours is?

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I told you, Okay, it's that these people had lives, lives,
and they had dreams and they were starting to build it.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
What do you feel ahead?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I mean for me too, I mean, just to build
off that that's almost going to that, you know, the
point that I was trying to make with it's very
much still towards the end when when we're losing all
the friends. That's also still something that you know, folks
thought about after World War Two as well. And of
course I hear from my relatives that you know, you

(59:50):
you live through the war just to watch your brother
die in a semi accident or things like that, where
the fear of losing folks that you were so close
to for such a long time or just such a
poignant point in time was still definitely there. And so
I think that that almost is a metaphor in a

(01:00:10):
way for that loss that a lot of folks after
the war was experiencing, whether that was from you know,
car accidents or freak accidents or even in suicide. You know,
the thing that we don't necessarily talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
You've gotten that first conversation with the six of them
that they knew each other all the way through the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
War, all the way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Yeah, so they probably enlisted in the same place, went
to the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Same school school. They're all from New York, all of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Them are from New York. So they enlisted in the
same place, went to the same direction.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Well, even going further on the metaphor of this and
the metaphor of loss is that like the war takes
its toll emotionally physically, and that like the war isn't
ever really done because Lisa stem from the stake made
during the war.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, the war followed them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Home exactly, and now it's picking them off when they
suddenly find themself well, when they they are feeling safe.
Their one interpretation, that is one interpretation that's fair. Absolutely,
it might not be correct, but it's one that I
did have in my head while watching.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
It that that was kind of what was, you know,
chasing me as well in terms of thinking about how
how faith did represent that sort of Yeah, that continuation
of the fear, that sort of the fear that we
didn't talk about again because you know, of course it's

(01:01:43):
not something that folks talked about back then either when
it comes to the depression and the PTSD and all
that stuff. So I think that that the the lingering
fear of the unknown, because of course it wouldn't have
been necessarily known to them what they were going through
the hell shock, but maybe something else and those sorts

(01:02:03):
of things. I think that really sort of accumulated in
faith or Lisa's presence.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Is there anything that we can think of that didn't
work in this movie? Because I really can't think of anything.
There's average things in this movie, which is fine. There's
nothing wrong with average unless the whole movie's average, and
then that's kind of damning. But this is not the case.
I don't know if I can think of something that
really didn't work in this movie, because the pacing was good,

(01:02:36):
there was tension, the acting was clearly good, the sets
were good, costuming was obviously very good. I know, like,
I can't think of anything, Darlene, not off.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
The top of my head, Katie, And I know now
I'm sign notes on my stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
No see, And then I guess that that is a
pretty resounding we would recommend if we can't really come
up with something that truly like brought the movie down.
I we recommend it, Katie. Do you do you feel
the same?

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yeah? And I think that that's really what shocked me
about the IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes score too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Okay, go ahead, I don't know that well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
So IMDb has it at a five point eight out
of ten, okay, and Rotten Tomatoes has it at twenty
one percent.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Oh no. See, if I had to give this an
out of ten, which I will do when I go
onto Internet movie database later, I usually put my my
ratings in there. This is an eat out of ten movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I'm not that high.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
You're not that high? What what would you what would
you give it about a seven? A seven, which is
still very good?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Yeah? I would say seven point five ish.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
So we do a bell curve.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Yeah, I a really steep bell curve when I'm when
I'm writing movies, basically it's average if it's between four
and six, but it's very hard to get to three
to seven, very hard, and then getting to a two
or and eight is even harder. There are movies that
there are movies that have gotten that far down and
that far up. There have been they're very very rare.

(01:04:20):
But if I'm saying this is an eight, that's kind
of like one out of twenty kind of movie, like
this is in the top five percent, so to speak
to me at least, I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Think it just speaks to how solid the movie is.
Just overall good run, you know, it was the writing
was compelling, the story was compelling. I think it was
just it's a good, solid watch for anybody that wants
to watch a movie of this sort of type, of
this sort of point in history and movie history. I

(01:04:54):
just think that you're not going to walk away from
it with a bad experience at any given point. So
I think that that's something that for me, would recommend
this movie for a pretty wide audience.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yeah, and the horror elements in it are obviously there,
but they're not overwhelming. This is more sense. Yeah, it's
more suspense, which is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
You've got a child that is very scared of snakes
and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't even I don't
even think this would bother our kid.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
No, No, this is a really tame movie. And that's
not that's not a damning statement for me that this
is a tame movie. In that anyone can approach it
and watch it, so I think we can probably leave
it there. So thank you for joining us, Katie, I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Well, thank you for having me. This was great. I
went to watch this movie otherwise, so I'm really great
that you're really grateful that we had this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Well, no problem, I'd be happy to have you back.
I just need to find another movie that I think
you may enjoy, because a lot of the movies that
we do watch are like, oh man, no, they're an
acquired taste unless you're like a super sci fi or.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Some of them are not in our taste.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Yeah, but thank you for joining us. I'm Aaron, I'm Darlene.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Good evening, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Keep watching the Skies. At no point in your rambling,
incoherent response were you even close to anything that could
be considered a rational thought.

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