October 2, 2025 • 66 mins
Aaron and Darlene watch some classic sci-fi from the 1950s and '60s, good and bad. They talk about what makes these films memorable and fun, and if you should take a trip back in time and enjoy these films as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But aren't you fellows ever positive only about doomsday? What
could be worse than disappointing a little girl disappointing a
big girl.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I have other ways of securing your cooperation.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Sorry, miss I was giving myself an oil job. When
was it just for Zumbly as we've seen attitude to
it since we gave to a few low cabbages an
intellectual carrot.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That mind boggles you see you see your stupid lives.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Stupid, stupid, I said Santa Claus. Long enough, we will
bring him to Mars. I've been afraid a lot of
times in my life, but I didn't know the real
meaning of fear until until I kiss at me. One
thing will be clear. It's not from man to interfere
in the ways of God's life.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to Earth Versus Soup episode
two seventy six. I'm Aaron polier'n. We are diving back
into the hole that is Paul Nashi uh. And we
ordered two.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Box sets, two collections.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
From Amazon, and the first collection is lost to the
Amazon ether for the moment, but we got the second
volume and we have decided that we like Paul Nashi movies. Well,
they're they're interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're different, right, they're different, they're weird, and they're very
much what are the what the hell? They're bonkers.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's rare that I find movies where I honestly cannot
figure out what's going to happen next, or what direction
the movie is going to go in. And this does
not disappoint. It does not. This movie is Hunchback of
the Morgue from nineteen seventy two, and I'm going to
talk about one thing that very well could disqualify the
(02:08):
movie entirely for people, and I just want to get
it out of the way right now.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's called animal cruelty.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Animal cruelty. It happens in this movie, and it's blatant,
it's upsetting, and I don't want to talk about it anymore.
I just want to point it out. If this is
disqualifying to you, I hope that you listen to the
rest of our review. Just know that there are two
instances in this movie where there is animal cruelty. It
(02:36):
is of a time any place that is not here,
and now let's put it that way. I think it
would have likely been seen as acceptable at that time
and place. So that's all I want to talk about that,
because I'll be fair, I've tried to start talking about
(02:58):
this a couple times. We've tried to talk about this,
uh taping, and I've gotten really angry going into any
more details. I don't want to talk about him anymore.
So let's let's move into like talking about the actors
and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, you're going to talk about the actors first?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, Yes, we have Paul Nashy, who is not playing
his werewolf character. He's plays he has a physical disability.
He's also he's also described as having a mental disability.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's why he can be so manipulated.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, now I will also say that, uh, he does
not really come off that way, but the way that
other people describe him. But I think it's that other
people are describing him in a derogatory way. Anyway. We
have Rosanna Yanni as Ilkie. She's the female lead in this.
(03:52):
She does she does pretty well. But if you're not
like a Spanish horror film person, which we technically we aren't.
We haven't watched a lot of these movies, we wouldn't
really recognize many of these actors, directors, writers, anything like that.
Except for Paul Nashi At this point, I think Paul
(04:12):
Nashy is fairly memorable and easily seen for us, and
we go okay, yep, good, do we want to cover
anything else before we get into the movie with this?
There's actually some pretty interesting behind the scenes stuff, But
I think I want to talk about the behind the
scenes stuff during talking about the plot, because I'll stop
(04:35):
and go, Okay, this is what Paul Nashi and Rosanni
Yanni and Maria Elena Rpone who played Ilsa in this
who is a love interest of Wolfgang at the beginning
of the movie, they all did some pretty crazy things
involving this movie, like behind the scenes. So let's talk
(04:58):
about the plot. It begins with an opening that made
me think I was watching the wrong film immediately, like
I'm watching the wrong film. It is what sounds like
poka carnival music playing over views of beautiful autumn mountains,
(05:23):
like changing colored trees on the slopes of low like
high hills, let's put it that way, not really mountains, but.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
High I think they made you want to think about
being in Germany, even though the only thing that makes
me think of Germany is that one the bar, the
bar and the one street.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, because everything else is very very clearly supposed to
be in.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Spain, Spanish ruins. It's Spanish Inquisition.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, they specifically mentioned the Spanish Inquisition and and things
related to that. Let's put it that way. But it's
it's a very much a disconnect because of the poka
like carnival music.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And the girls at the bar are wearing the beer
frou beer frow looking.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So okay, but.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We're starting with that, and there's a challenge that goes
on these big glasses.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So there's a group of students there. There's a group
of students.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are they students?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think they are? Just they are They are college students.
They are all college students. That's that's what is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Said in underground Undergrad Undergrad.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And they're all in this bar. They're all already drunk,
and the girls that are working there in their low
cut tops and and bosom are egging these guys on.
And we learned that the one guy, his girlfriend Ilsea,
(07:12):
is sick in the hospital, dying, but he's here drinking
himself silly, not as like he is sad in that
he doesn't really give a shit.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, So is he one of the students.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah he is, so one of his friends challenges him
to proper beer drinking. So the beer frows pull out
these like gallon sized freaking glasses of beer and they
just start opening up their throats and just downing insane
(07:53):
amounts of beer. Like it made me uncomfortable watching them.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The challenger drop before he finishes the first one.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, he just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But like the second, the guy that was the challengee.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The guy that was the boy drinks two of them,
two of them, and he's laughing ha ha, and the
girls are all like, oh, he's so strong, he's so manly.
He just chugged down two gallons of beer.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And then he's walking down the street like he's he's got.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Sweats, He's got the beer sweats, which I actually think,
good job, he's got the beer.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Staggering down the road.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We are also introduced here to Paul Nashey playing Wolfgang Gotho,
who has a hunch on his back and he's following
this guy because it turns out that Wolfgang was has
always been friends with Ilsea since they were little kids.
They always were really good friends, and Wolfgang always felt
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that Ilsa was the only person that ever showed him kindness.
So he's angry that this boy friend is just out
drinking and not spending time in the hospital with Ilse.
All right, we later learned that Wolfgang has actually been
spending at least sometime every single day with Ilsa in
(09:13):
the in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But picking up otherwise picking up flowers for it to
give her tour.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So Douchebag is stumbling down the street and Wolfgang like
comes up to him and goes, hey, hey, you need
to go see Elsa. She's not doing well. And he's like,
screw you, you're trying to rob me, and he like
kicks kicks Wolfgang to the side, and I thought, Okay, well,
this dude's gonna get killed by Wolfgang. This is how
this movie's gonna start. Nope, Nope, douchebag. I don't even
(09:44):
know the guy's name. I'm sorry. Douchebag just kind of
wanders down the road, grips his stomach. I think he's
gonna piss himself.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I thought he was gonna puke.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, or puke, but no, he just falls over dead,
like he just drank too much and died. You can
do that with beer, Darlene. It is incredibly difficult. But
yes you can.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You can over drink water.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah you can. But drinking two big gallons of beer,
first of all, I don't I am sure there is
a person that can do that. I don't know if
a person as thin and and like short as this
guy was. He did not seem like a big guy.
(10:28):
I don't think he could drink a gallon of beer. Regardless,
I think the actor really did. It looked like he
actually was drinking a huge amount though, because his throat
was working and all that. Like when he was drinking that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was pretty and it was beer because it had.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The It actually had the Dutch lace.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It had the lace where.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We like beer. So yeah, we know, we know that,
all right. So we cut to the hospital. Wolfgang walks
in with a butcher's nine and he's in the morgue.
And it turns out that Wolfgang is like a morg attendant.
He's not like the head of the morgue, but he's
(11:09):
a morgue attendant and he does dissections and prepares bodies
for autopsy, or at least he removes organs for other
doctors to look at them. So he comes in with
this knife and the body of the dead guy, and the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Word actually is dissecting because they're doing some kind of
inspection and some kind of an experiment, and he upstairs.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Wolfgang's like, I bet you didn't think you would be
a pile of meat on my slab tonight, you know,
And and Wolfgang's coming across as really creepy at this point,
and I'm thinking, am I supposed to like him?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is there anything to be liked in this movie?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes? Okay for characters, Yes, absolutely there Elkie spoiler Darling
just jumped ahead and told you what happens Elkie.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to like Elkie.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay. So he chops him up, brings the organs to
some doctors, who then ridicule him for his disability, and says,
no one likes him. Get away from me, you derogatory words.
Derogatory words. Derogatory words. Thus begins me cursing at the film,
because ninety percent of the employees and citizens of.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
This village, including even the children in the next.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Are pieces of shit that deserve to be beaten about
the head until they learn to not yell derogatory things.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
At people, not to beat them up, not to.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Cause serious bodily harm to people because they might be
slightly different. The children in this town threw rocks at
him until he was on the ground, bleeding from the
head and the mouth, these little sons of bitches.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And that's where the elkie comes in.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yes, now there are good people in this town. There are.
I would even go so far as to say that
at least one of the inspectors is a good person too,
and they don't really think that them. How, how how
Wolfgang gets treated in this movie is actually good at all.
(13:41):
And every time they try to stand up for him,
the hatred in general, or like the bigotry that the
general people in this area have for him are goes
right back on display. It's it's so intense, it's almost
it could be funny if it wasn't so aggravating and
(14:05):
making you feel really angry, Like if it was just
like if it was all of these people in this
city that just hated the color pink, and they really
hated the color pink, and and there was like nineteen
eighty four love Time, you know, where they would just
like scream obscenities at like a poster of a color pink,
(14:28):
like it would be funny, right. The fact is that
this is directed any person, because he is he is
physically looks different, and it's upsetting because of that. But
it's so over the top that if it was anything else,
if it was if it wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Person, they call him ugly, they call him all kinds
of nas Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's just I don't even want to go. I don't
even want to go into all the things they call him.
It's it's terrible. But anyway, anyway, so we already have
wolfging going in, so that then we go to go
see Ilsa in a hospital bed. The doctors say that
her lungs are destroyed and she's in her final days.
Ilsa knows she's dying. She knows it. At this point,
(15:14):
we don't really know what has happened to make her
this way, but the fact is is that the doctors
and nurses are kind of pussyfooting around her about it.
They're like saying, well, you know it's possible, you could,
you could pull through. You know, you're doing better today.
And she's completely at peace with the idea of her
(15:37):
no longer being here, but like nobody else is because
she's a young woman and no one wants her to
die young. So anyway, he goes in and Wolfgang has
a bundle of flowers, and Ilsa likes that Wolfgang visits
her because nobody else does, like where are her parents?
(16:00):
Her boyfriend's dead?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And Wolfgang Grotto is what he's called is Grotho.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's his last name. Is Gotho.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's what they call him mostly.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, and I always wrote down Wolfgang, but that's me.
He's the only one that's visiting her, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So but he doesn't even tell her that her boyfriend's dead.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah he does.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He does.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
The doctor said it to her, and she's just like, okay,
well he was a piece of shit anyway, Like her
feelings towards him were like really it just did not matter.
But at least at least Ilsa seems to actually care
about Wolfgang. I don't think she loves him, but she
cares about him and knows that he's a good person
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and always thanks him for the flowers that he brings.
So we then get the scene of the kids assaulting
Wolfgang to the extent that he likely should have been hospitalized.
I mean, blood was coming from his mouth, his scalp.
They were throwing rocks at him. He was not to
(17:16):
the ground, dazed from the from from the assault. And
if if elk.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Elk did not come, did not interfere, he.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Would killed, would have been killed, killed by these children.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And they were children, like they were children like five.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, like these kids deserved to be in a juvenile
facility before this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They need they needed their parents to not have them
running around that place.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
If this happened today, and if this happened today, the
kids would have been taken away. There's no there's nothing
that says like, oh, it's just kids horse playing around.
They almost killed a man.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You used weapons to.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Almost kill a man who could not defend himself and
did nothing to deserve that. You were all pieces of shit.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And the next scene is the.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
The blonde woman stops and this is Elkie. She's a
doctor at the hospital, and Wolfgang says that he and
Ilsa knew each other from children, because she takes him
back to her house to treat his wounds, because she
can't take him to the hospital because the pieces of
shit there probably won't treat him. That's they don't say
(18:44):
that in the movie, but there's no other reason for
her to actually take him to her house to treat
him rather than the hospital, because it's likely the doctor's
the way they treat him at the hospital, they wouldn't
do a damn thing for him, they'd just let him
bleed from his scalp. He is so, he is so
thankful that this woman has showed him any kindness. Again,
there's now there's two people that we know that have
(19:07):
ever shown him kindness, Ilsa and Elkie. He is so
taken by the fact that she has shown him kindness.
He kisses her feet. He goes to his knees and
kisses her feet. Now, that was an uncomfortable that made
me very uncomfortable because she doesn't like say no, stop,
(19:30):
She just kind of stands there. And I have to
I have to think that it's it's shock, it's shocked.
I have to think that we've and I even wrote
my notes this is very this comes across as very strange.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Then the next one of the next scenes, you see
her walking into the hospital.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
At her two scenes ahead, scenes ahead, Yeah, you just
jump two scenes. We have Wolfgang pushing Ilsa around the
garden in the wheelchair. She admits that she knows she's dying,
and we have the doctor's ridiculing Wolfgang as he's pushing
her around.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
That's down here. You're missing the two women that are
beaten up.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Well, then we get the the two women that are
in a room together and one is whipping the ship
out of the other one. And the one that's being
whipped seems to like it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
There's no she's got a big smile on her face.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
There is no nudity, and what is that? We need
to separate you too, and she like takes one of
them away, she takes the one that was being whipped away.
And it turns out like this is a women's reformatory
hospital something, this is.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
The mental Yeah, so I did notice the walls are
very in their room was very water water image damage.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I will say that all the sets here look like
it's clear that they dressed the sets, but the sets
are actually real places, like this is not a studio.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
This hospital that they're in looks like an abandoned one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
For sure, it's abandoned, but it's a real place. That's
not a set, not not with what we saw. And
then there's dungeon sets in this that I'm like, well,
that's not really that. I don't think that's a set,
that's a real place that they put things into, because
you don't get that kind of level of detail in stuff. Anyway.
We have another doctor talking. It's like doctor Meyer or
(21:30):
something like that. Uh, it's it's this other woman that's
that's here, and she's talking to an investigator about some
strange things that have happened, like this, this guy that
was killed that well, this guy that died, the student
that died seemed that seemed really weird, and it's really
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sad that he was the boyfriend of of Ilsa, and
ILSA's now going to die very soon. Even though this
is like a separate facility.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
He's almost accusing.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Later on, she accuses Wolfgang of it all. But let's
be fair. There's things that Wolfgang does in this movie
that very that he is guilty of killing the douchebag boyfriend.
Is he is innocent to that he did not do that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And one of the things is, again with these movies,
there is no difference between day and night.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh day for night shots, bad day for night shots.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, you don't know, you have no idea which one
it is.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So the doctors at the hospital now tease and humiliate
Wolfgang and let's again be fair. I had to pause
the movie because of me getting angry about it. If
this was today, these doctors rightly would have been fired.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Even if they were students, they'd be kicked out of
there and lose their.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
The way they treat this man with a disability, mocking him.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He's bit his tongue, bleeding out of his mouth, he's
got where he was hit again in the head.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They and they start and and he well, okay, at
this point, Wolfgang has kind of had it and he
he like goes to push him, but you know, the
man is disabled, and the doctors push him to the
ground and then start kicking the shit out of him.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He doesn't go to push him. He gets the flowers
out of his hands so they don't get damaged.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, but the point is is that the doctors throw
him to the ground and start kicking the shit out
of him. All like four of them are kicking this
poor man while he's on the ground and crying and.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Screaming two other doctors to stop it, to stop it.
At that point in time, these four should been kicked
off premises.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
They should have been arrested for a secon and arrested
for salt. There are so many people that should have
been arrested for assault and battery in this movie, so
many people, and it it obviously is supposed to make
you feel bad for Wolfgang. Wolfgang is also a piece
of shit for different reasons. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
He misses because of this, He misses Else's death.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And the nurse ses, if you would have gotten here
just a few moments earlier, you would have been here
for her when she passed, And I got freaking angry
that really, And you know what, good job movie, Good
job because you have the Wolfgang Ilsea thing. They're so
(24:48):
good friends and these pieces of shit doctors kicking him
in the dirt made him miss his only like the
only person that showed him kindness in his life besides
Elkie this one time that he kissed her feet. Because
of you, You've caused this man like untold grief.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
In this and it continues in the next scene.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh, it just just keeps going.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
With he's down in the morgue.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Waiting on again. Another person that should have been shit
canned fired and arguably, well they get they're unable to
be arrested, but we'll get to that. So hold on hold.
Before we jump ahead, we need to talk about that
scene with Wolfgate in the room, because he's there with
(25:41):
he's there with the flowers and Paul Nashy with the flowers,
seeing Ilse's body. Paul Nashy can act.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
He puts flowers around her, on her, like one beside
her shaking, like there's a white rose that he's like
cressing her with.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's it's really moving. Paul Nashy can act. Paul Nashy
can act.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's like almost like you're seeing a child that's mourning
the death of their mother at this point.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
It's it's upsetting. Good job, good job movie, Paul Nashy.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Well he did get award for this.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Oh yeah he did. I mean, I have no doubt.
Paul Nashy's a good actor. If there's one thing you
can take away from this movie, there is so much,
so much that makes you angry, but that's just good
writing in general. Paul Nashy's a good damn actor.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's on the bottom of that.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, Well, I'm not gonna look at it while we're
we're recording. So at this point, her body is wheeled
down to the morgue and Wolfgang is there as the
morgue attendant, and he has to see her body. And
I have this down in my notes. The morgue doctor
is a piece of shit because he starts mocking Wolfgang, Oh,
(27:10):
I heard that you liked her. Well, she's dead now.
I guess there's nobody left that likes you. And I'm like,
I cannot both.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And the other one steals her dog on.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Gold crucifix, and I'm like, you know what, Wolfgang, that's
why he You have every right to like hit the guy,
but he doesn't. He doesn't just hit the guy. I would.
You're forgiven for hitting him.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
He hit him at first, and then he grabs the
other one goes after him and he grabs the.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, well he grabs he grabs a axe. No, he
grabs it's a autopsy saw, and he swings it and
decapitates a dude. He decapitates one of the doctors and
then stabs the other one through the chest. And it's
(28:01):
when I say that this is gory. It's gory.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. There he's supposed to have dissected. And that is
not something you'd send send even if you had somebody
that was totally sane.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And well, it's this guy's cracked at this point after
Elsa's death, he's cracked. But I totally understand him pushing
them away when they're trying to like steal the cross.
Maybe I'll just give this to my to my mistress.
And he's like, you know, Wolfgang is just you know,
(28:35):
f you, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And even in today's society, if you are a morgue person,
a person that's at a morgue that does the autopsy,
they would not have you do it, not.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
If the first the person well, unless you are totally
okay with it. But like I I can see like
saying no, I want to be here for this. I
was their friend. I want to make sure that their
body is treated with respect, Bubble. I can understand that.
But if you're like clearly emotionally compromised in such a
way as that you would likely be unable to perform
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your duties. Yes, of course, of course. But if you
if you knew somebody on the table and you said no,
I want to be here, there would be another person still.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
There and the word was dissecting.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, so he loses it. He just kills everybody. He
just kills them.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And then he takes her down I am just.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I can't even it's it's nuts. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
So he picks her up, he picks her up, pushes her, well,
he throws her over his shoulder, walks out, goes to
a hole in the ground that's covered in this like
metal plate, metal plate, and there's like a ladder in it.
But here's another scene where I'm really impressed with the
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acting and camera work.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Oh yeah, she's in she's impressive.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
She yeah, the person who plays Elsie Maria Elena r poem.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
She's got a rope around her armpits.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, and he's lowering her down this pit, this deep pit,
and she's supposed to be dead. She looks dead. She's
just swinging.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Down and limps, limply, just goes on the ground.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah. But well, while she's just hanging there really by
a rope underneath her arms and she's swinging down this long,
deep pit.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But even the bottom is even more impressive. You want
to actually, you would want to catch yourself. But she
just she just allows her body just to flop, even
her head to flop.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Good job. Well, there's a couple other things that she
does in a little bit that we'll talk about that
I'm like Okay, I need to now stop.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Do you want me to tell him about that one.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
We'll get to it. We'll get you don't want to get,
We'll get to it. Okay. So he brings her after
he gets down into this pit. It's basically what can
be best described as a medieval torture chamber and tunnel
complex that's underneath this hospital because the hospital used to
be some sort of.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Castle well keep I wouldn't say the hospital. I would
say that there's a ruin of it near by that
was part of the inquisition.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It was, yeah, some sort of large complex during the Inquisition,
but it's all underground now. So he basically puts her.
He puts her on a torture table. It had shackles
on it, and you're like, that can't be a torture
and because there's like bones on it, he clears off
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the bones. There's shackles on it him like, Darling, it's
a torture chamber. And what do we see later on?
We see an iron maiden and like, I think it's
a Saint Andrew's cross. Is that what it's called? I
don't know about that. But he puts her on. Yeah,
there's a rack but he puts her on the table
and then like kisses her gently and I'm like okay, okay.
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So then we get a shot of Wolfgang waiting outside
the lhouse waiting for this other guy that had insulted
Ilsa to the boyfriend, and the boyfriend didn't care. He's drunk.
He finally leaves, and Wolfgang follows him into his house
and then shoves flowers down his throat, basically saying, you
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disrespected Ilsa. Now the flowers that I brought her will
be the last thing you smell, and he shoves them
into his throat with such violence that the guy is
basically bleeding from his mouth as he chokes to death.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He didn't just mock Elsa, he mocked Wolfgang as well,
wolf Game as well, because he's one of the four
that was the beaters. He was one of the four.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Well he's dead now, an inspector says, boy, oh boy.
Now there's been a few more deaths, like there's these
two Morgue attendants that died. No one can find Wolfgang. Won.
Are Wolfgang's at fault for this being that like autopsy
tools were used and it was he was supposed to
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be down in the Morgue when Else's body came down,
Why isn't he there? Why is Else's body gone? Wow?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
So and now there's another person that is dead in
his in their room.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yes, so everyone seems to see Wolfgang as the clear
perpetrator for all of this. And let's be fair, at
this point, Wolfgang did steal her cores, murder two Morgan
attendants and a kid in his bed by stuffing flowers
down his throat till he died.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
But they're also blaming him for the first one too,
which is dies.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He is innocent, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
He wasn't a stupid college person that was.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Now one can argue later on that Wolfgang is manipulated
into further crimes. Wolfgang is clearly guilty of of let's say,
two counts of third degree murder at this point, with
the two Morgan attendants, and then first degree premeditated murder
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of the college kid. Right. I'm not saying that those
all those people are innocent of the things themselves, because
they're not. But none of them, none of the crimes
that they are that they committed that we see on screen,
would necessitate a death penalty. So obviously Wolfgang is actually
also in the wrong. Everyone's an ast in this movie
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except Ilsa and Alki. Anyway, Wolfgang freaks out as he
comes back down into the catacombs, and I'm going to
talk about this because there's rats covering Ilsea's corpse. Now pause.
This is the scene where there's animal cruelty. That's all
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I'm gonna say about that. But I also have to
talk about the fact that these were real rats, these
were real actors covered in rats, that we're actually biting them.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Was somebody throwing the rats at the hunchback.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
At Wolfgang? Yes, but there also are times where the
rats are actually legitimately attacking them because they're terrified. Yes,
for good reason. They're terrified.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
There's a pile of them. We're not going to talk
about Elsa.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yes, So behind the scene means both Paul Nashy and
Maria Elena Rpone, who played Ilsa, had to be inoculated
for rabies because they were bitten dozens of times during
the scene. You know what, screw all of you producers
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forever doing the scene.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yes, it wasn't even necessary.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It's not necessary. You put your actors at risk, and
you clearly harmed animals. That's it. Moving on, moving on,
let's see here.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
The police inspectors. No.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
He then moves her body, which now is actually rotting,
to a different torture chamber to get her away from
the rats, and he apologizes to her for the rats
eating her. Okay, eating the body. Ilse's no longer there.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That is it. But he doesn't think he doesn't understand death.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, he does understand death. He just doesn't want to
believe that she is dead. He does understand death. It's
very clear that he does. The two inspectors questioned the
hospital director about Wolfgang in the morgue. Wolfgang wakes up
off an autopsy table. He's been hiding in the autopsy
room waiting for one of the doctors that he actually
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knows is sort of friendly, and this is doctor Orlow.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He's he always gets called the professor by people.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yes, so he's.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I really had to laugh about the police inspectors
coming to see the professor. Yes, in his house, and
he immediately goes, I need to leave for my work.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yes. So he asks for help for this with this doctor,
and he says, you know what, I might be able
to help him, but you know what you need to do. Wolfgang,
You're gonna have to take my entire lab down into
those catacombs of yours. Okay, because.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Because a Wolfgang showed him the underground.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And Orlo says, you know what, I think I can
bring Ilsa back to life. And Wolfgang's like, you'll bring
her back, and he's like, yeah, I can, but you
need to bring my entire laboratory down here, buddy. Okay.
So Orlo has an assistant, doctor Tauchner. His name is Frederick,
so we'll just call him Frederick Frederick Tauchner. Frederick is
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concerned that Wolfgang will snap if Orla doesn't bring Ilsa back.
At this point, after Wolfgang gets the entire laboratory down
into this, into these catacombs, Orla is not really concerned.
Orla's clearly cracked from the get go. From the get
go because he gets the entire laboratory, his entire laboratory
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set up, because he actually has been like researching bringing
Dad back to life. Okay, I thought this was just
going to be like Wolfgang murdering people in revenge, like
a massive revenge plot. No, this has suddenly become a
massive revenge plot mixed with Frankenstein.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And we have a vat.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Orla has installed a pit of sulfuric acid in the lab.
Osha has entered the chat because there's no guard rails here.
This is just a pit. I paused the movie button.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
It has a button to.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Ultimate, Darling. I paused the movie and I go, how
many people are gonna die in that this movie? Darling?
Many people are gonna die? And I said three? How many?
How many people will how many people will hold on?
We need to count one, two, three, three, four, four?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I don't I don't know about the four because the
one got killed. Well, we'll go.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Into I think I think there's count at least four.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
The thing you had to note was that Wolfgang get
had two other guys.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Three other guys, three other guys, three.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Other guys help him move this stuff. And it was
impressive that these guys moved all of that.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That quick because like Frederick like looks at Arlo and goes, wow,
you mean Wolfgang moved all this stuff down here by himself.
This stuff's really heavy because there's like huge computer banks.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And this is when the professor goes, yeah, and look
at this and pushes the button.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Look at the sulfuric acid vat. But hold on. This
is when like the movers come in and I'm like, ok, whoa, whoa,
wait a second, your secret laboratory now has like three
dudes that are like just mover dudes, gotten everything down
here because Wolfgang subcontracted it. He subcontracted it to like
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some college mover guys to get everything done, the.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
College moving guys. These are dumb, mom.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
So no, these guys are just a yeah. But they're
just hanging out now in the tunnels, playing like Uno like.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's later on the rack. I mean put that really clearly.
They're playing cards on the rack.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Okay, see see what I mean about like these bogs.
These movies have problems, but I have never watched movies
like these.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Oh is it the next scene that the three guys
are playing cards on the the rack?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, they complain about being around all these rotting corpses
and there's only one, but they're having to hang out
in the same room as ILSA's rotting corpse.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
And they said, we can we can take care of
this by putting it in the bag.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Well, yeah, they said, she's been dead for like three weeks.
It's really smelling bad, right, So yeah, we can take
care of this. We'll just throw her in the freaking
bat of acid and take care of the body.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
When they go to do this, Wolfgang gets angry.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, they do throw her body in the ass.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
One gets shoved in the Iron.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Maiden, one gets shoved in the Iron Maiden, one gets
shoved in the acid pit, and the other one gets
acid thrown in his face.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And that's the one that gets scrambled goes. Later on,
you see him rambling along and there's a dead man
on his back.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
It's the guy that was in the Iron Maiden. For
the rest of the movie, this guy that had like
acid thrown in his face is shambling around like a
zombie with his dead friend strapped to his back. What
the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
And that scares the other one that I got confused with.
It's not Alka, it's Elsa, not Elsa, it's elki Elkie.
It's not Alki, and it's not Elsa, it's the other lady.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
With the lady director short hair. I don't get why
the shit the doctor orla, as cracked as he is,
would allow this dude to be walking around for weeks.
How does he never see it? This guy's wandering around
the tunnels. I don't know, there's only one long tunnel
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with a whole bunch of rooms off it.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I don't know, blinders. He's insane.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
All right, So the professor promises Wolfgang to give him
a new Elsa and he and Wolfgang gives him a
picture of the car, of the picture that he has
of Elsa.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Okay. Wolfgang wants to leave now that Elsa is gone.
He wants to turn himself in for all these crimes.
And doctor Orla says, no, you shouldn't do that. I'll
make you a new Ilsa. He tells Wolfgang to go
to the morgue and get the head of a fresh
corpse because we need to actually complete this experiment because
he has like a bucket of cells like that he's
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growing that are like living cells.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
It looks like a bubbling liver.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Okay, so we need to talk about this at this point.
A medical facility in Spain somehow thought it would be
a good idea to give this production company access to
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a real corpse. Oh and the production team thought it
was a good idea to use a real corpse for
a scene where Wolfgang played by Paul Nashy has to
saw the head off a corpse. They wanted to look real,
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so they wanted to use a real corpse.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
It made the the actor.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
The actor puked, drank whiskey to like steady himself. I
guess he got two cuts through the neck and said
I'm done. I'm not doing this. Get a prop. You
guys are sick. A the cinematographer on this, the cameraman,
but well cinematographer, I should say, who is known for
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doing pretty gruesome horror movies quit. He's like, I'm sick.
I can't do this. This is wrong. This is the point.
I don't know if this is before or after the
Animal Cruelty. I would hope that this was this was
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before it, that this is the thing that made him
go and he didn't like just kind of go through
the Animal cruelty.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
This could be the last straw though too.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I mean, either way, good that he left. I'm shocked
that this got through step one rather than like, however
many steps it took to almost be filmed. But there
is one shot that truly does look like that is
him sawing into the corpse, and then they were done.
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They're like, that's the only shot they got because it
really does look like the knife is working across actual flesh.
And I'm like, oh no, I can't believe they're doing it.
And then they cut and then it's clearly a very
well done prop, a very well done prop, but it
was almost sickening.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
This is where again it goes bonkers. I this he
is walking down this road with the hunchback.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
With a plastic bag with a head in it was plastic.
It was a clear plastic bag with a head in it,
and the police whistle like, hey buddy.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
And so you have a chase with a hunchback that
climbs up the walls to.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
The with a head and a plastic bag.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
To the room. It's surreal, and goes into somebody's I don't.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Know he goes he goes into Elkie's room. He's like,
hide me, hide me, And she's like, is.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That a head in a back?
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Like I've been forced to do things I don't want
to do, and she's like, fine.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I'll get rid of them. And I'm like, okay. Any
normal human being would be like, okay, I know Wolfgang
was innocent of that murder. I'm not so sure about
the other things. But Now he's shown up in my
bedroom in the middle of the night, old bathroom, in
a bathroom, holding a plastic bag with a head in it.
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What should be your response when the police come up
and say, we saw a guy running around that we've
been looking for on suspicion of murder for a whole
bunch of people. We think he has a head in
a plastic bag. Have you seen him? Yes, yes, yes,
he is in my freaking bathroom.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
No, she doesn't do that, No she doesn't. She goes
to she tells him no, and she'd notify him if
she finds him. And then it proceeds to have a
kissing kissing kissy.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
No, no, well, yeah, they do kiss, but he begins
it by kissing her feet. Again, he goes down to
his knees and hands and kisses her feet. Then they kiss.
Then there is a sex scene.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I thought they cut out the same.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
They well, we don't see anything. It's a very brief
them in bed, still with clothes on. But that is
what is implied because Paul Nashy specifically said in the
commentary that Spanish censors specifically took that whole sequence out
and burned it because he said he had a prosthetic hump,
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a hairy help that he wore on his back. They
were both naked and had and had sex on screen.
It was simulated sex, but they were both naked and
he was like, i'm i'm I thought that it was
a wonderful thing because it was about love and that's
what that whole scene was about, where the rest of
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the movie was like shocking. Why did they they let
animal cruelty, people getting like decapitated, They let that, They
let that stay.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
But you know, between a person and a hunchback.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
And it's consensual, consensual love, Like what's more offensive? The
consensual love making is not offensive at all. But they
cut that out decapitations and that's fine, that's fine. I
have serious I have questions about this movie. Where are we?
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Oh my lord, the experiment is almost overfilling the big jar.
Doctor Orla puts the head that Wolfgang brings back into.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
The jar with the plastic bag.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
With the plastic well, no, no, no, he drops it
in by the hair. Orla then takes Wolfgang grave robbing.
They got well, we got to go get more fresh corpses.
So they dig a dude up and that's where Wolfgang
ends up murdering a cop because Orla tells him to
go murder.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
A cop because the cop noticed them.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
The cop noticed them. The experiment is feeling because it
repels dead cells, so they need to try something else.
It breaks out of the jar in one of the cells,
Like they lock it behind a door and it breaks
out and it's like squealing and things like that. Orla
has Wolfgang knockout doctor Toucher to tie him up. He
then makes Wolfgang go and nab women prisoners that they
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feed to the experiment in the door.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
And the first one is the first woman that was
the one that was laying on the bed getting whipped,
and then the next one is the other one.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
So Orla specifically wants girls from the formatory because no
one will miss them in their human garbage. It's what
he calls them, human garbage.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, like, oh wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Wow, you piece of shit, You real piece of shit.
I mean, yes, you are a murdering piece of shit already.
You're ordering another guy to like murder people, and you're
treating other people as less than you. Boy, I wonder
what you are fascist.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Uh, well, you gotta think of this whole dog gone
place is nothing more than a bunch of bad people.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
The director of the reformatory beats Orla over the head
with UH and tries to escape the tunnels because she
ends up finding her way down there. At one point, yeah,
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she runs into like the the acid burned dude with.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
The dead body on the back, screams and passes out.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
And then Orla keeps having Wolfgang get more women, several women,
and at some point Elki actually sees Wolfgang with women
under each arm, going into this pit. Because dozens of
women have now disappeared out of the reformatory. No one
knows where the director is. Wolfgang just keeps doing it.
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Elkie sees Wolfgang taking these two bodies down in the pit.
Orla has the director imprisoned in the dungeon, same with
the Tauchner. Orla is going to feed them to the monster.
Elkie sees all the rotting corpses that are down there now.
And finally, at this point, Wolfgang refuses to feed anybody
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else to the monster. He's like, no, you know what,
I think I've had enough. I think my threshold for
murder has now been passed. I think now I'm doing wrong.
And he now gets gets a conscience.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Orla then.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Shoves him and they fight. The acid pit gets opened,
because of course it would he based. Wolfgang goes and
like releases the two people like Tauchner and the director,
and then Orla ends up shooting Wolfgang a few times
and then the creature breaks out. Creature kills Orla. The
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creature looks like a big slime creature of some sort.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Looks like somebody put plastic glue all over him.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That's black Wolf and the monster fall into the acid.
They're dead. The end, like it's it does wrap up
fairly quickly. Okay, so let's let's oh this movie, Okay,
what worked the scenes this well, you mean the sets.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
The sets that weren't sets.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
They're really good, but you're saying like just the scenes
in general are really really like, the plot is actually interesting.
The acting acting, Okay, Paul nashy freaking fantastic.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
But I don't think that the doctor or La whatever,
I don't think he's he's really good. The inspectors are
are stupid of what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Paul Nash is fantastic. Maria Alina or pond as Ilsa
in the the small part that she's in is really good,
like stunningly good, even as a dead body. Is even
as a dead body, that's acting. That is acting, And
I don't think I've ever seen a person act like
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that like that, Well, lessons can be learned. Who else
can lay on a slab with dozens of freaking rats
on top of them, biting them and not sit there
in twitch and screen?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Excuse me, I wouldn't even do it.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
No credit where credits due, right.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
I don't even think Ilki.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
Is a good actress. The person who played Alki, I
think they did a good job. But like the sets,
the scenes, the pacing of the movie, you're never bored.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
You're never bored, No, but you're always constantly doing the
exact same thing you're doing on all of these.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
What the heck? Okay, what didn't work? Animal cruelty, That's
all I'm gonna say, because it's upsetting. The extreme levels
of hate shown towards Wolfgang is actually, like I said,
it's so over the it's so much that it would
be funny if it wasn't directed at a person, but
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since it's directed at a person, it is excessively cruel, unusual, upsetting,
Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
And they please inspectors at one point knew that there
was abuse going on because they said something about it.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
And as I said, like, there were times in this
movie where the abuse was so extreme I really needed
to stop it and take a step back.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
The kids made me mad. How could you?
Speaker 3 (56:50):
It didn't matter that this was a movie, it was
it was Yeah, okay, let.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
Me just put it this way. I thought that was
horrible of the people getting kids to throw rocks at somebody.
You're not supposed to teach kids to do that. You're
supposed to teach them not to do that.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Like, I get it. You're trying to showcase, like you
probably in a movie, like you tell the kids normally
you don't do this this. You're trying to be little
pieces of shit. Okay, your little pieces of shit in
this movie act act like pieces of shit and don't
do it anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Uh do you really think that these people did that.
I don't know when they did what they did with
the rats.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
No, no, Darlne, we're not talking about that. That's look,
I'll be fair. The rat thing. I'm knocking points off
this movie.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Getting kids to do some mean, cruel things is not
right either.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
My gut reaction says, I don't want to recommend the
movie because of the rats, but yeah, I can't because
the rest of the movie outside of that is actually
pretty good. Like it really is good, right. It elicited emotions,
it told a story.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
And it's less bonkers than the last one.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Yeah, but it kept us engaged, right, Like, it's difficult
for me to to give it amount of time, Like
I'm gonna recommend it with the asterisk of Dude, there's
some really upsetting shit in this There is really upsetting shit.
There are things that if you are sensitive to them,
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do not watch this movie. I am sensitive to it.
I'm still glad I watched the movie because, look, the
rat thing really upset me. It's I know that I'm
sounding like i'm I'm, I'm I'm babbling a little bit,
but it's it's so hard to talk about I don't
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want to talk about it. I just want to say
that it really upset me.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Right, The way that they had everybody treating Wolfgang upset.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
The hell out of that upset me too, It really did.
But I think the way they were treating Wolfgang in
this made sense in context of the plot of the movie.
The rat thing didn't. I think the way they were
treating Wolfgang in this is indicative of good writing because
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it really did elicit emotions in us of like sympathy
towards Wolfgang and hate of these people that were being
pieces of shit to them. So I have to give
the movie credit for that, Like that's and the way
that it was shot and framed and paced, it really
worked for that. It's upsetting, but it worked. What else
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can we say about this? I don't want to like
belabor belabored points, belabor points, but I really enjoyed the film.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
This is more watchable than the last one. Okay, except
for those scenes. Yeah, if you could cut off those scenes.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I would like to think that there's a edited version
that doesn't have that in it, and maybe I should
see because I know that there's a censored and uncensored
version of this, and we watched the uncensored because.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
See, I could see teenagers doing that, not.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Young kids, Oh being that abusive towards Wolfgang. Yes, so
it doesn't make it right either way.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
But either way, but you it makes it less. Why
did you have kids do that?
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
I would say, because it's teaching kids to be mean.
I recommend it with the asterisk. I recommend it with
the asterisk. Do not watch the SEF you're a sensitive person.
I am a sensitive person. I watch this still, what
do you give it? Ignoring the things that really upset
me that clearly are wrong? And I hate the producers
(01:00:51):
for doing it, but I can't entirely ignore it. I
don't know, darling, give what? What are you going to
give it? I have to. I still have to think.
I'm I'm really.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I am still down at the below the five level.
Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Well you get the last one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Five.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I am just because of the the few things I
just cannot it I have I have makes me mad
of the producers and that to have that ship in there.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I'm gonna I have to give it a five because
if you if you removed, if you removed the rats
and the extreme abuse, I'd probably give this like a
seven and a half eight. I probably would this would
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have been a solid, like super enjoyable movie. I'm indifferent
towards it because of that, Like, I still have to
recognize that there's a lot of really well done things
in this movie. I have to recognize that I have
to be fair about it. But the things that were
upsetting we're upsetting. We're upsetting what I hope cap Yeah,
(01:02:09):
with big capital letters, but I don't think I can
give it less than five. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
And there was some wonderful scenes like that whole pushing
around in the wheelchair and and that whole her talking
when she's dying to the nurse about flowers.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
That weare's Wolfgang. He'd be here with flowers, you know,
they make me so happy, and like, yeah, that whole
scene of him pushing her in the wheelchair and she's
talking about her life and her joys and her regrets,
like it was moving.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
If I was a nurse and I had this person
that's almost dying and asking to see somebody, make sure
that I would send out somebody to go get them.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
It was moving and and I have to give the
movie credit for that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
But the one thing I have to say about that
hospital is I don't ever want to be in there.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
An abandoned hospital. So I hope, I hope everyone listening
kind of can parse out what we're trying to say,
like this is a it's it's clearly a movie of
its time. It's clearly a movie that that has very
obvious evil in it. From a production standpoint, it won't
be the it's not the first movie or the last
movie that had production stuff that we've seen that was
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clearly evil.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Well, it will be the first, well one of them.
We didn't hardly even watch watch.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
It, yeah, because we were just like, no, this is
way too much. This was way too much. This was
way too much. But we we went through it, and
we wanted to talk about it and make sure that
people understand that this is a pretty well known and
well regarded movie, but it still has this.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
And the bottom of that was what uh of IBM?
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Of what he IBM? Internet Movie Database IMDb, IBM's a
computer Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
On the bottom it tells of what he got and
that the director was upset because he got it and
not the director.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Oh okay, the director was pissed off the director wasn't
nomine Well f him.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Because he didn't deserve it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
No one deserved it. Well maybe Paul Nashy did.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Paul Nashy got for his acting in this, okay. But
it was also saying that the the director was it
was some kind of film, a French film award.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Okay, Well, we'll leave it there, I guess we both
recommend it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
I don't think I'll recommend this one either.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Okay, you don't think so. So if this is a
mixed one with us for very obvious reasons. If it
wasn't for those two things, we'd probably both really strongly
recommend it. But yeah, it's mind's a very very light
recommendation with an asterisk in Yours is a nod. So
I'm Aron, I'm darling. Good evening, keep watching the skies.
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could be worse than disappointing a little girl disappointing a
big girl.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I have other ways of securing your cooperation.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Sorry, miss I was giving myself an oil job. When
was it just for Zumbly as we've seen attitude to
it since we gave to a few low cabbages an
intellectual carrot.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That mind boggles you see you see your stupid lives.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Stupid, stupid, I said Santa Claus. Long enough, we will
bring him to Mars. I've been afraid a lot of
times in my life, but I didn't know the real
meaning of fear until until I kiss at me. One
thing will be clear. It's not from man to interfere
in the ways of God's life.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to Earth Versus Soup episode
two seventy six. I'm Aaron polier'n. We are diving back
into the hole that is Paul Nashi uh. And we
ordered two.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Box sets, two collections.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
From Amazon, and the first collection is lost to the
Amazon ether for the moment, but we got the second
volume and we have decided that we like Paul Nashi movies. Well,
they're they're interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're different, right, they're different, they're weird, and they're very
much what are the what the hell? They're bonkers.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's rare that I find movies where I honestly cannot
figure out what's going to happen next, or what direction
the movie is going to go in. And this does
not disappoint. It does not. This movie is Hunchback of
the Morgue from nineteen seventy two, and I'm going to
talk about one thing that very well could disqualify the
(02:08):
movie entirely for people, and I just want to get
it out of the way right now.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's called animal cruelty.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Animal cruelty. It happens in this movie, and it's blatant,
it's upsetting, and I don't want to talk about it anymore.
I just want to point it out. If this is
disqualifying to you, I hope that you listen to the
rest of our review. Just know that there are two
instances in this movie where there is animal cruelty. It
(02:36):
is of a time any place that is not here,
and now let's put it that way. I think it
would have likely been seen as acceptable at that time
and place. So that's all I want to talk about that,
because I'll be fair, I've tried to start talking about
(02:58):
this a couple times. We've tried to talk about this,
uh taping, and I've gotten really angry going into any
more details. I don't want to talk about him anymore.
So let's let's move into like talking about the actors
and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, you're going to talk about the actors first?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, Yes, we have Paul Nashy, who is not playing
his werewolf character. He's plays he has a physical disability.
He's also he's also described as having a mental disability.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's why he can be so manipulated.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, now I will also say that, uh, he does
not really come off that way, but the way that
other people describe him. But I think it's that other
people are describing him in a derogatory way. Anyway. We
have Rosanna Yanni as Ilkie. She's the female lead in this.
(03:52):
She does she does pretty well. But if you're not
like a Spanish horror film person, which we technically we aren't.
We haven't watched a lot of these movies, we wouldn't
really recognize many of these actors, directors, writers, anything like that.
Except for Paul Nashi At this point, I think Paul
(04:12):
Nashy is fairly memorable and easily seen for us, and
we go okay, yep, good, do we want to cover
anything else before we get into the movie with this?
There's actually some pretty interesting behind the scenes stuff, But
I think I want to talk about the behind the
scenes stuff during talking about the plot, because I'll stop
(04:35):
and go, Okay, this is what Paul Nashi and Rosanni
Yanni and Maria Elena Rpone who played Ilsa in this
who is a love interest of Wolfgang at the beginning
of the movie, they all did some pretty crazy things
involving this movie, like behind the scenes. So let's talk
(04:58):
about the plot. It begins with an opening that made
me think I was watching the wrong film immediately, like
I'm watching the wrong film. It is what sounds like
poka carnival music playing over views of beautiful autumn mountains,
(05:23):
like changing colored trees on the slopes of low like
high hills, let's put it that way, not really mountains, but.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
High I think they made you want to think about
being in Germany, even though the only thing that makes
me think of Germany is that one the bar, the
bar and the one street.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, because everything else is very very clearly supposed to
be in.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Spain, Spanish ruins. It's Spanish Inquisition.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, they specifically mentioned the Spanish Inquisition and and things
related to that. Let's put it that way. But it's
it's a very much a disconnect because of the poka
like carnival music.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And the girls at the bar are wearing the beer
frou beer frow looking.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So okay, but.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We're starting with that, and there's a challenge that goes
on these big glasses.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So there's a group of students there. There's a group
of students.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are they students?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think they are? Just they are They are college students.
They are all college students. That's that's what is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Said in underground Undergrad Undergrad.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And they're all in this bar. They're all already drunk,
and the girls that are working there in their low
cut tops and and bosom are egging these guys on.
And we learned that the one guy, his girlfriend Ilsea,
(07:12):
is sick in the hospital, dying, but he's here drinking
himself silly, not as like he is sad in that
he doesn't really give a shit.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, So is he one of the students.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah he is, so one of his friends challenges him
to proper beer drinking. So the beer frows pull out
these like gallon sized freaking glasses of beer and they
just start opening up their throats and just downing insane
(07:53):
amounts of beer. Like it made me uncomfortable watching them.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The challenger drop before he finishes the first one.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, he just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But like the second, the guy that was the challengee.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The guy that was the boy drinks two of them,
two of them, and he's laughing ha ha, and the
girls are all like, oh, he's so strong, he's so manly.
He just chugged down two gallons of beer.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And then he's walking down the street like he's he's got.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Sweats, He's got the beer sweats, which I actually think,
good job, he's got the beer.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Staggering down the road.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We are also introduced here to Paul Nashey playing Wolfgang Gotho,
who has a hunch on his back and he's following
this guy because it turns out that Wolfgang was has
always been friends with Ilsea since they were little kids.
They always were really good friends, and Wolfgang always felt
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that Ilsa was the only person that ever showed him kindness.
So he's angry that this boy friend is just out
drinking and not spending time in the hospital with Ilse.
All right, we later learned that Wolfgang has actually been
spending at least sometime every single day with Ilsa in
(09:13):
the in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But picking up otherwise picking up flowers for it to
give her tour.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So Douchebag is stumbling down the street and Wolfgang like
comes up to him and goes, hey, hey, you need
to go see Elsa. She's not doing well. And he's like,
screw you, you're trying to rob me, and he like
kicks kicks Wolfgang to the side, and I thought, Okay, well,
this dude's gonna get killed by Wolfgang. This is how
this movie's gonna start. Nope, Nope, douchebag. I don't even
(09:44):
know the guy's name. I'm sorry. Douchebag just kind of
wanders down the road, grips his stomach. I think he's
gonna piss himself.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I thought he was gonna puke.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, or puke, but no, he just falls over dead,
like he just drank too much and died. You can
do that with beer, Darlene. It is incredibly difficult. But
yes you can.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You can over drink water.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah you can. But drinking two big gallons of beer,
first of all, I don't I am sure there is
a person that can do that. I don't know if
a person as thin and and like short as this
guy was. He did not seem like a big guy.
(10:28):
I don't think he could drink a gallon of beer. Regardless,
I think the actor really did. It looked like he
actually was drinking a huge amount though, because his throat
was working and all that. Like when he was drinking that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was pretty and it was beer because it had.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The It actually had the Dutch lace.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It had the lace where.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We like beer. So yeah, we know, we know that,
all right. So we cut to the hospital. Wolfgang walks
in with a butcher's nine and he's in the morgue.
And it turns out that Wolfgang is like a morg attendant.
He's not like the head of the morgue, but he's
(11:09):
a morgue attendant and he does dissections and prepares bodies
for autopsy, or at least he removes organs for other
doctors to look at them. So he comes in with
this knife and the body of the dead guy, and the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Word actually is dissecting because they're doing some kind of
inspection and some kind of an experiment, and he upstairs.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Wolfgang's like, I bet you didn't think you would be
a pile of meat on my slab tonight, you know,
And and Wolfgang's coming across as really creepy at this point,
and I'm thinking, am I supposed to like him?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is there anything to be liked in this movie?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes? Okay for characters, Yes, absolutely there Elkie spoiler Darling
just jumped ahead and told you what happens Elkie.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to like Elkie.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay. So he chops him up, brings the organs to
some doctors, who then ridicule him for his disability, and says,
no one likes him. Get away from me, you derogatory words.
Derogatory words. Derogatory words. Thus begins me cursing at the film,
because ninety percent of the employees and citizens of.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
This village, including even the children in the next.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Are pieces of shit that deserve to be beaten about
the head until they learn to not yell derogatory things.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
At people, not to beat them up, not to.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Cause serious bodily harm to people because they might be
slightly different. The children in this town threw rocks at
him until he was on the ground, bleeding from the
head and the mouth, these little sons of bitches.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And that's where the elkie comes in.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yes, now there are good people in this town. There are.
I would even go so far as to say that
at least one of the inspectors is a good person too,
and they don't really think that them. How, how how
Wolfgang gets treated in this movie is actually good at all.
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And every time they try to stand up for him,
the hatred in general, or like the bigotry that the
general people in this area have for him are goes
right back on display. It's it's so intense, it's almost
it could be funny if it wasn't so aggravating and
(14:05):
making you feel really angry, Like if it was just
like if it was all of these people in this
city that just hated the color pink, and they really
hated the color pink, and and there was like nineteen
eighty four love Time, you know, where they would just
like scream obscenities at like a poster of a color pink,
(14:28):
like it would be funny, right. The fact is that
this is directed any person, because he is he is
physically looks different, and it's upsetting because of that. But
it's so over the top that if it was anything else,
if it was if it wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Person, they call him ugly, they call him all kinds
of nas Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's just I don't even want to go. I don't
even want to go into all the things they call him.
It's it's terrible. But anyway, anyway, so we already have
wolfging going in, so that then we go to go
see Ilsa in a hospital bed. The doctors say that
her lungs are destroyed and she's in her final days.
Ilsa knows she's dying. She knows it. At this point,
(15:14):
we don't really know what has happened to make her
this way, but the fact is is that the doctors
and nurses are kind of pussyfooting around her about it.
They're like saying, well, you know it's possible, you could,
you could pull through. You know, you're doing better today.
And she's completely at peace with the idea of her
(15:37):
no longer being here, but like nobody else is because
she's a young woman and no one wants her to
die young. So anyway, he goes in and Wolfgang has
a bundle of flowers, and Ilsa likes that Wolfgang visits
her because nobody else does, like where are her parents?
(16:00):
Her boyfriend's dead?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And Wolfgang Grotto is what he's called is Grotho.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's his last name. Is Gotho.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's what they call him mostly.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, and I always wrote down Wolfgang, but that's me.
He's the only one that's visiting her, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So but he doesn't even tell her that her boyfriend's dead.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah he does.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He does.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
The doctor said it to her, and she's just like, okay,
well he was a piece of shit anyway, Like her
feelings towards him were like really it just did not matter.
But at least at least Ilsa seems to actually care
about Wolfgang. I don't think she loves him, but she
cares about him and knows that he's a good person
(16:56):
and always thanks him for the flowers that he brings.
So we then get the scene of the kids assaulting
Wolfgang to the extent that he likely should have been hospitalized.
I mean, blood was coming from his mouth, his scalp.
They were throwing rocks at him. He was not to
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the ground, dazed from the from from the assault. And
if if elk.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Elk did not come, did not interfere, he.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Would killed, would have been killed, killed by these children.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And they were children, like they were children like five.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, like these kids deserved to be in a juvenile
facility before this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They need they needed their parents to not have them
running around that place.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
If this happened today, and if this happened today, the
kids would have been taken away. There's no there's nothing
that says like, oh, it's just kids horse playing around.
They almost killed a man.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You used weapons to.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Almost kill a man who could not defend himself and
did nothing to deserve that. You were all pieces of shit.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And the next scene is the.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
The blonde woman stops and this is Elkie. She's a
doctor at the hospital, and Wolfgang says that he and
Ilsa knew each other from children, because she takes him
back to her house to treat his wounds, because she
can't take him to the hospital because the pieces of
shit there probably won't treat him. That's they don't say
(18:44):
that in the movie, but there's no other reason for
her to actually take him to her house to treat
him rather than the hospital, because it's likely the doctor's
the way they treat him at the hospital, they wouldn't
do a damn thing for him, they'd just let him
bleed from his scalp. He is so, he is so
thankful that this woman has showed him any kindness. Again,
there's now there's two people that we know that have
(19:07):
ever shown him kindness, Ilsa and Elkie. He is so
taken by the fact that she has shown him kindness.
He kisses her feet. He goes to his knees and
kisses her feet. Now, that was an uncomfortable that made
me very uncomfortable because she doesn't like say no, stop,
(19:30):
She just kind of stands there. And I have to
I have to think that it's it's shock, it's shocked.
I have to think that we've and I even wrote
my notes this is very this comes across as very strange.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Then the next one of the next scenes, you see
her walking into the hospital.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
At her two scenes ahead, scenes ahead, Yeah, you just
jump two scenes. We have Wolfgang pushing Ilsa around the
garden in the wheelchair. She admits that she knows she's dying,
and we have the doctor's ridiculing Wolfgang as he's pushing
her around.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
That's down here. You're missing the two women that are
beaten up.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Well, then we get the the two women that are
in a room together and one is whipping the ship
out of the other one. And the one that's being
whipped seems to like it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
There's no she's got a big smile on her face.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
There is no nudity, and what is that? We need
to separate you too, and she like takes one of
them away, she takes the one that was being whipped away.
And it turns out like this is a women's reformatory
hospital something, this is.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
The mental Yeah, so I did notice the walls are
very in their room was very water water image damage.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I will say that all the sets here look like
it's clear that they dressed the sets, but the sets
are actually real places, like this is not a studio.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
This hospital that they're in looks like an abandoned one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
For sure, it's abandoned, but it's a real place. That's
not a set, not not with what we saw. And
then there's dungeon sets in this that I'm like, well,
that's not really that. I don't think that's a set,
that's a real place that they put things into, because
you don't get that kind of level of detail in stuff. Anyway.
We have another doctor talking. It's like doctor Meyer or
(21:30):
something like that. Uh, it's it's this other woman that's
that's here, and she's talking to an investigator about some
strange things that have happened, like this, this guy that
was killed that well, this guy that died, the student
that died seemed that seemed really weird, and it's really
(21:51):
sad that he was the boyfriend of of Ilsa, and
ILSA's now going to die very soon. Even though this
is like a separate facility.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
He's almost accusing.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Later on, she accuses Wolfgang of it all. But let's
be fair. There's things that Wolfgang does in this movie
that very that he is guilty of killing the douchebag boyfriend.
Is he is innocent to that he did not do that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And one of the things is, again with these movies,
there is no difference between day and night.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh day for night shots, bad day for night shots.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, you don't know, you have no idea which one
it is.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So the doctors at the hospital now tease and humiliate
Wolfgang and let's again be fair. I had to pause
the movie because of me getting angry about it. If
this was today, these doctors rightly would have been fired.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Even if they were students, they'd be kicked out of
there and lose their.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
The way they treat this man with a disability, mocking him.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He's bit his tongue, bleeding out of his mouth, he's
got where he was hit again in the head.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They and they start and and he well, okay, at
this point, Wolfgang has kind of had it and he
he like goes to push him, but you know, the
man is disabled, and the doctors push him to the
ground and then start kicking the shit out of him.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He doesn't go to push him. He gets the flowers
out of his hands so they don't get damaged.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, but the point is is that the doctors throw
him to the ground and start kicking the shit out
of him. All like four of them are kicking this
poor man while he's on the ground and crying and.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Screaming two other doctors to stop it, to stop it.
At that point in time, these four should been kicked
off premises.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
They should have been arrested for a secon and arrested
for salt. There are so many people that should have
been arrested for assault and battery in this movie, so
many people, and it it obviously is supposed to make
you feel bad for Wolfgang. Wolfgang is also a piece
of shit for different reasons. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
He misses because of this, He misses Else's death.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And the nurse ses, if you would have gotten here
just a few moments earlier, you would have been here
for her when she passed, And I got freaking angry
that really, And you know what, good job movie, Good
job because you have the Wolfgang Ilsea thing. They're so
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good friends and these pieces of shit doctors kicking him
in the dirt made him miss his only like the
only person that showed him kindness in his life besides
Elkie this one time that he kissed her feet. Because
of you, You've caused this man like untold grief.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
In this and it continues in the next scene.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh, it just just keeps going.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
With he's down in the morgue.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Waiting on again. Another person that should have been shit
canned fired and arguably, well they get they're unable to
be arrested, but we'll get to that. So hold on hold.
Before we jump ahead, we need to talk about that
scene with Wolfgate in the room, because he's there with
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he's there with the flowers and Paul Nashy with the flowers,
seeing Ilse's body. Paul Nashy can act.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
He puts flowers around her, on her, like one beside
her shaking, like there's a white rose that he's like
cressing her with.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's it's really moving. Paul Nashy can act. Paul Nashy
can act.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's like almost like you're seeing a child that's mourning
the death of their mother at this point.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
It's it's upsetting. Good job, good job movie, Paul Nashy.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Well he did get award for this.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Oh yeah he did. I mean, I have no doubt.
Paul Nashy's a good actor. If there's one thing you
can take away from this movie, there is so much,
so much that makes you angry, but that's just good
writing in general. Paul Nashy's a good damn actor.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's on the bottom of that.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, Well, I'm not gonna look at it while we're
we're recording. So at this point, her body is wheeled
down to the morgue and Wolfgang is there as the
morgue attendant, and he has to see her body. And
I have this down in my notes. The morgue doctor
is a piece of shit because he starts mocking Wolfgang, Oh,
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I heard that you liked her. Well, she's dead now.
I guess there's nobody left that likes you. And I'm like,
I cannot both.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And the other one steals her dog on.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Gold crucifix, and I'm like, you know what, Wolfgang, that's
why he You have every right to like hit the guy,
but he doesn't. He doesn't just hit the guy. I would.
You're forgiven for hitting him.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
He hit him at first, and then he grabs the
other one goes after him and he grabs the.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, well he grabs he grabs a axe. No, he
grabs it's a autopsy saw, and he swings it and
decapitates a dude. He decapitates one of the doctors and
then stabs the other one through the chest. And it's
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when I say that this is gory. It's gory.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. There he's supposed to have dissected. And that is
not something you'd send send even if you had somebody
that was totally sane.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And well, it's this guy's cracked at this point after
Elsa's death, he's cracked. But I totally understand him pushing
them away when they're trying to like steal the cross.
Maybe I'll just give this to my to my mistress.
And he's like, you know, Wolfgang is just you know,
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f you, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And even in today's society, if you are a morgue person,
a person that's at a morgue that does the autopsy,
they would not have you do it, not.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
If the first the person well, unless you are totally
okay with it. But like I I can see like
saying no, I want to be here for this. I
was their friend. I want to make sure that their
body is treated with respect, Bubble. I can understand that.
But if you're like clearly emotionally compromised in such a
way as that you would likely be unable to perform
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your duties. Yes, of course, of course. But if you
if you knew somebody on the table and you said no,
I want to be here, there would be another person still.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
There and the word was dissecting.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, so he loses it. He just kills everybody. He
just kills them.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And then he takes her down I am just.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I can't even it's it's nuts. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
So he picks her up, he picks her up, pushes her, well,
he throws her over his shoulder, walks out, goes to
a hole in the ground that's covered in this like
metal plate, metal plate, and there's like a ladder in it.
But here's another scene where I'm really impressed with the
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acting and camera work.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Oh yeah, she's in she's impressive.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
She yeah, the person who plays Elsie Maria Elena r poem.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
She's got a rope around her armpits.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, and he's lowering her down this pit, this deep pit,
and she's supposed to be dead. She looks dead. She's
just swinging.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Down and limps, limply, just goes on the ground.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah. But well, while she's just hanging there really by
a rope underneath her arms and she's swinging down this long,
deep pit.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But even the bottom is even more impressive. You want
to actually, you would want to catch yourself. But she
just she just allows her body just to flop, even
her head to flop.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Good job. Well, there's a couple other things that she
does in a little bit that we'll talk about that
I'm like Okay, I need to now stop.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Do you want me to tell him about that one.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
We'll get to it. We'll get you don't want to get,
We'll get to it. Okay. So he brings her after
he gets down into this pit. It's basically what can
be best described as a medieval torture chamber and tunnel
complex that's underneath this hospital because the hospital used to
be some sort of.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Castle well keep I wouldn't say the hospital. I would
say that there's a ruin of it near by that
was part of the inquisition.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It was, yeah, some sort of large complex during the Inquisition,
but it's all underground now. So he basically puts her.
He puts her on a torture table. It had shackles
on it, and you're like, that can't be a torture
and because there's like bones on it, he clears off
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the bones. There's shackles on it him like, Darling, it's
a torture chamber. And what do we see later on?
We see an iron maiden and like, I think it's
a Saint Andrew's cross. Is that what it's called? I
don't know about that. But he puts her on. Yeah,
there's a rack but he puts her on the table
and then like kisses her gently and I'm like okay, okay.
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So then we get a shot of Wolfgang waiting outside
the lhouse waiting for this other guy that had insulted
Ilsa to the boyfriend, and the boyfriend didn't care. He's drunk.
He finally leaves, and Wolfgang follows him into his house
and then shoves flowers down his throat, basically saying, you
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disrespected Ilsa. Now the flowers that I brought her will
be the last thing you smell, and he shoves them
into his throat with such violence that the guy is
basically bleeding from his mouth as he chokes to death.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He didn't just mock Elsa, he mocked Wolfgang as well,
wolf Game as well, because he's one of the four
that was the beaters. He was one of the four.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Well he's dead now, an inspector says, boy, oh boy.
Now there's been a few more deaths, like there's these
two Morgue attendants that died. No one can find Wolfgang. Won.
Are Wolfgang's at fault for this being that like autopsy
tools were used and it was he was supposed to
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be down in the Morgue when Else's body came down,
Why isn't he there? Why is Else's body gone? Wow?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
So and now there's another person that is dead in
his in their room.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yes, so everyone seems to see Wolfgang as the clear
perpetrator for all of this. And let's be fair, at
this point, Wolfgang did steal her cores, murder two Morgan
attendants and a kid in his bed by stuffing flowers
down his throat till he died.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
But they're also blaming him for the first one too,
which is dies.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He is innocent, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
He wasn't a stupid college person that was.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Now one can argue later on that Wolfgang is manipulated
into further crimes. Wolfgang is clearly guilty of of let's say,
two counts of third degree murder at this point, with
the two Morgan attendants, and then first degree premeditated murder
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of the college kid. Right. I'm not saying that those
all those people are innocent of the things themselves, because
they're not. But none of them, none of the crimes
that they are that they committed that we see on screen,
would necessitate a death penalty. So obviously Wolfgang is actually
also in the wrong. Everyone's an ast in this movie
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except Ilsa and Alki. Anyway, Wolfgang freaks out as he
comes back down into the catacombs, and I'm going to
talk about this because there's rats covering Ilsea's corpse. Now pause.
This is the scene where there's animal cruelty. That's all
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I'm gonna say about that. But I also have to
talk about the fact that these were real rats, these
were real actors covered in rats, that we're actually biting them.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Was somebody throwing the rats at the hunchback.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
At Wolfgang? Yes, but there also are times where the
rats are actually legitimately attacking them because they're terrified. Yes,
for good reason. They're terrified.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
There's a pile of them. We're not going to talk
about Elsa.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yes, So behind the scene means both Paul Nashy and
Maria Elena Rpone, who played Ilsa, had to be inoculated
for rabies because they were bitten dozens of times during
the scene. You know what, screw all of you producers
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forever doing the scene.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yes, it wasn't even necessary.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It's not necessary. You put your actors at risk, and
you clearly harmed animals. That's it. Moving on, moving on,
let's see here.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
The police inspectors. No.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
He then moves her body, which now is actually rotting,
to a different torture chamber to get her away from
the rats, and he apologizes to her for the rats
eating her. Okay, eating the body. Ilse's no longer there.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That is it. But he doesn't think he doesn't understand death.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, he does understand death. He just doesn't want to
believe that she is dead. He does understand death. It's
very clear that he does. The two inspectors questioned the
hospital director about Wolfgang in the morgue. Wolfgang wakes up
off an autopsy table. He's been hiding in the autopsy
room waiting for one of the doctors that he actually
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knows is sort of friendly, and this is doctor Orlow.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He's he always gets called the professor by people.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yes, so he's.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I really had to laugh about the police inspectors
coming to see the professor. Yes, in his house, and
he immediately goes, I need to leave for my work.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yes. So he asks for help for this with this doctor,
and he says, you know what, I might be able
to help him, but you know what you need to do. Wolfgang,
You're gonna have to take my entire lab down into
those catacombs of yours. Okay, because.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Because a Wolfgang showed him the underground.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And Orlo says, you know what, I think I can
bring Ilsa back to life. And Wolfgang's like, you'll bring
her back, and he's like, yeah, I can, but you
need to bring my entire laboratory down here, buddy. Okay.
So Orlo has an assistant, doctor Tauchner. His name is Frederick,
so we'll just call him Frederick Frederick Tauchner. Frederick is
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concerned that Wolfgang will snap if Orla doesn't bring Ilsa back.
At this point, after Wolfgang gets the entire laboratory down
into this, into these catacombs, Orla is not really concerned.
Orla's clearly cracked from the get go. From the get
go because he gets the entire laboratory, his entire laboratory
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set up, because he actually has been like researching bringing
Dad back to life. Okay, I thought this was just
going to be like Wolfgang murdering people in revenge, like
a massive revenge plot. No, this has suddenly become a
massive revenge plot mixed with Frankenstein.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And we have a vat.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Orla has installed a pit of sulfuric acid in the lab.
Osha has entered the chat because there's no guard rails here.
This is just a pit. I paused the movie button.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
It has a button to.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Ultimate, Darling. I paused the movie and I go, how
many people are gonna die in that this movie? Darling?
Many people are gonna die? And I said three? How many?
How many people will how many people will hold on?
We need to count one, two, three, three, four, four?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I don't I don't know about the four because the
one got killed. Well, we'll go.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Into I think I think there's count at least four.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
The thing you had to note was that Wolfgang get
had two other guys.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Three other guys, three other guys, three.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Other guys help him move this stuff. And it was
impressive that these guys moved all of that.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That quick because like Frederick like looks at Arlo and goes, wow,
you mean Wolfgang moved all this stuff down here by himself.
This stuff's really heavy because there's like huge computer banks.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And this is when the professor goes, yeah, and look
at this and pushes the button.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Look at the sulfuric acid vat. But hold on. This
is when like the movers come in and I'm like, ok, whoa, whoa,
wait a second, your secret laboratory now has like three
dudes that are like just mover dudes, gotten everything down
here because Wolfgang subcontracted it. He subcontracted it to like
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some college mover guys to get everything done, the.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
College moving guys. These are dumb, mom.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
So no, these guys are just a yeah. But they're
just hanging out now in the tunnels, playing like Uno like.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's later on the rack. I mean put that really clearly.
They're playing cards on the rack.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Okay, see see what I mean about like these bogs.
These movies have problems, but I have never watched movies
like these.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Oh is it the next scene that the three guys
are playing cards on the the rack?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, they complain about being around all these rotting corpses
and there's only one, but they're having to hang out
in the same room as ILSA's rotting corpse.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
And they said, we can we can take care of
this by putting it in the bag.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Well, yeah, they said, she's been dead for like three weeks.
It's really smelling bad, right, So yeah, we can take
care of this. We'll just throw her in the freaking
bat of acid and take care of the body.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
When they go to do this, Wolfgang gets angry.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, they do throw her body in the ass.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
One gets shoved in the Iron.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Maiden, one gets shoved in the Iron Maiden, one gets
shoved in the acid pit, and the other one gets
acid thrown in his face.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And that's the one that gets scrambled goes. Later on,
you see him rambling along and there's a dead man
on his back.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
It's the guy that was in the Iron Maiden. For
the rest of the movie, this guy that had like
acid thrown in his face is shambling around like a
zombie with his dead friend strapped to his back. What
the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
And that scares the other one that I got confused with.
It's not Alka, it's Elsa, not Elsa, it's elki Elkie.
It's not Alki, and it's not Elsa, it's the other lady.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
With the lady director short hair. I don't get why
the shit the doctor orla, as cracked as he is,
would allow this dude to be walking around for weeks.
How does he never see it? This guy's wandering around
the tunnels. I don't know, there's only one long tunnel
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with a whole bunch of rooms off it.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I don't know, blinders. He's insane.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
All right, So the professor promises Wolfgang to give him
a new Elsa and he and Wolfgang gives him a
picture of the car, of the picture that he has
of Elsa.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Okay. Wolfgang wants to leave now that Elsa is gone.
He wants to turn himself in for all these crimes.
And doctor Orla says, no, you shouldn't do that. I'll
make you a new Ilsa. He tells Wolfgang to go
to the morgue and get the head of a fresh
corpse because we need to actually complete this experiment because
he has like a bucket of cells like that he's
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growing that are like living cells.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
It looks like a bubbling liver.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Okay, so we need to talk about this at this point.
A medical facility in Spain somehow thought it would be
a good idea to give this production company access to
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a real corpse. Oh and the production team thought it
was a good idea to use a real corpse for
a scene where Wolfgang played by Paul Nashy has to
saw the head off a corpse. They wanted to look real,
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so they wanted to use a real corpse.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
It made the the actor.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
The actor puked, drank whiskey to like steady himself. I
guess he got two cuts through the neck and said
I'm done. I'm not doing this. Get a prop. You
guys are sick. A the cinematographer on this, the cameraman,
but well cinematographer, I should say, who is known for
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doing pretty gruesome horror movies quit. He's like, I'm sick.
I can't do this. This is wrong. This is the point.
I don't know if this is before or after the
Animal Cruelty. I would hope that this was this was
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before it, that this is the thing that made him
go and he didn't like just kind of go through
the Animal cruelty.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
This could be the last straw though too.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I mean, either way, good that he left. I'm shocked
that this got through step one rather than like, however
many steps it took to almost be filmed. But there
is one shot that truly does look like that is
him sawing into the corpse, and then they were done.
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They're like, that's the only shot they got because it
really does look like the knife is working across actual flesh.
And I'm like, oh no, I can't believe they're doing it.
And then they cut and then it's clearly a very
well done prop, a very well done prop, but it
was almost sickening.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
This is where again it goes bonkers. I this he
is walking down this road with the hunchback.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
With a plastic bag with a head in it was plastic.
It was a clear plastic bag with a head in it,
and the police whistle like, hey buddy.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
And so you have a chase with a hunchback that
climbs up the walls to.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
The with a head and a plastic bag.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
To the room. It's surreal, and goes into somebody's I don't.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Know he goes he goes into Elkie's room. He's like,
hide me, hide me, And she's like, is.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That a head in a back?
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Like I've been forced to do things I don't want
to do, and she's like, fine.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I'll get rid of them. And I'm like, okay. Any
normal human being would be like, okay, I know Wolfgang
was innocent of that murder. I'm not so sure about
the other things. But Now he's shown up in my
bedroom in the middle of the night, old bathroom, in
a bathroom, holding a plastic bag with a head in it.
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What should be your response when the police come up
and say, we saw a guy running around that we've
been looking for on suspicion of murder for a whole
bunch of people. We think he has a head in
a plastic bag. Have you seen him? Yes, yes, yes,
he is in my freaking bathroom.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
No, she doesn't do that, No she doesn't. She goes
to she tells him no, and she'd notify him if
she finds him. And then it proceeds to have a
kissing kissing kissy.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
No, no, well, yeah, they do kiss, but he begins
it by kissing her feet. Again, he goes down to
his knees and hands and kisses her feet. Then they kiss.
Then there is a sex scene.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I thought they cut out the same.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
They well, we don't see anything. It's a very brief
them in bed, still with clothes on. But that is
what is implied because Paul Nashy specifically said in the
commentary that Spanish censors specifically took that whole sequence out
and burned it because he said he had a prosthetic hump,
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a hairy help that he wore on his back. They
were both naked and had and had sex on screen.
It was simulated sex, but they were both naked and
he was like, i'm i'm I thought that it was
a wonderful thing because it was about love and that's
what that whole scene was about, where the rest of
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the movie was like shocking. Why did they they let
animal cruelty, people getting like decapitated, They let that, They
let that stay.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
But you know, between a person and a hunchback.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
And it's consensual, consensual love, Like what's more offensive? The
consensual love making is not offensive at all. But they
cut that out decapitations and that's fine, that's fine. I
have serious I have questions about this movie. Where are we?
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Oh my lord, the experiment is almost overfilling the big jar.
Doctor Orla puts the head that Wolfgang brings back into.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
The jar with the plastic bag.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
With the plastic well, no, no, no, he drops it
in by the hair. Orla then takes Wolfgang grave robbing.
They got well, we got to go get more fresh corpses.
So they dig a dude up and that's where Wolfgang
ends up murdering a cop because Orla tells him to
go murder.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
A cop because the cop noticed them.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
The cop noticed them. The experiment is feeling because it
repels dead cells, so they need to try something else.
It breaks out of the jar in one of the cells,
Like they lock it behind a door and it breaks
out and it's like squealing and things like that. Orla
has Wolfgang knockout doctor Toucher to tie him up. He
then makes Wolfgang go and nab women prisoners that they
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feed to the experiment in the door.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
And the first one is the first woman that was
the one that was laying on the bed getting whipped,
and then the next one is the other one.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
So Orla specifically wants girls from the formatory because no
one will miss them in their human garbage. It's what
he calls them, human garbage.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, like, oh wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Wow, you piece of shit, You real piece of shit.
I mean, yes, you are a murdering piece of shit already.
You're ordering another guy to like murder people, and you're
treating other people as less than you. Boy, I wonder
what you are fascist.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Uh, well, you gotta think of this whole dog gone
place is nothing more than a bunch of bad people.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
The director of the reformatory beats Orla over the head
with UH and tries to escape the tunnels because she
ends up finding her way down there. At one point, yeah,
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she runs into like the the acid burned dude with.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
The dead body on the back, screams and passes out.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
And then Orla keeps having Wolfgang get more women, several women,
and at some point Elki actually sees Wolfgang with women
under each arm, going into this pit. Because dozens of
women have now disappeared out of the reformatory. No one
knows where the director is. Wolfgang just keeps doing it.
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Elkie sees Wolfgang taking these two bodies down in the pit.
Orla has the director imprisoned in the dungeon, same with
the Tauchner. Orla is going to feed them to the monster.
Elkie sees all the rotting corpses that are down there now.
And finally, at this point, Wolfgang refuses to feed anybody
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else to the monster. He's like, no, you know what,
I think I've had enough. I think my threshold for
murder has now been passed. I think now I'm doing wrong.
And he now gets gets a conscience.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Orla then.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Shoves him and they fight. The acid pit gets opened,
because of course it would he based. Wolfgang goes and
like releases the two people like Tauchner and the director,
and then Orla ends up shooting Wolfgang a few times
and then the creature breaks out. Creature kills Orla. The
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creature looks like a big slime creature of some sort.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Looks like somebody put plastic glue all over him.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That's black Wolf and the monster fall into the acid.
They're dead. The end, like it's it does wrap up
fairly quickly. Okay, so let's let's oh this movie, Okay,
what worked the scenes this well, you mean the sets.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
The sets that weren't sets.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
They're really good, but you're saying like just the scenes
in general are really really like, the plot is actually interesting.
The acting acting, Okay, Paul nashy freaking fantastic.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
But I don't think that the doctor or La whatever,
I don't think he's he's really good. The inspectors are
are stupid of what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Paul Nash is fantastic. Maria Alina or pond as Ilsa
in the the small part that she's in is really good,
like stunningly good, even as a dead body. Is even
as a dead body, that's acting. That is acting, And
I don't think I've ever seen a person act like
(55:14):
that like that, Well, lessons can be learned. Who else
can lay on a slab with dozens of freaking rats
on top of them, biting them and not sit there
in twitch and screen?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Excuse me, I wouldn't even do it.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
No credit where credits due, right.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
I don't even think Ilki.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
Is a good actress. The person who played Alki, I
think they did a good job. But like the sets,
the scenes, the pacing of the movie, you're never bored.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
You're never bored, No, but you're always constantly doing the
exact same thing you're doing on all of these.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
What the heck? Okay, what didn't work? Animal cruelty, That's
all I'm gonna say, because it's upsetting. The extreme levels
of hate shown towards Wolfgang is actually, like I said,
it's so over the it's so much that it would
be funny if it wasn't directed at a person, but
(56:14):
since it's directed at a person, it is excessively cruel, unusual, upsetting,
Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
And they please inspectors at one point knew that there
was abuse going on because they said something about it.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
And as I said, like, there were times in this
movie where the abuse was so extreme I really needed
to stop it and take a step back.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
The kids made me mad. How could you?
Speaker 3 (56:50):
It didn't matter that this was a movie, it was
it was Yeah, okay, let.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
Me just put it this way. I thought that was
horrible of the people getting kids to throw rocks at somebody.
You're not supposed to teach kids to do that. You're
supposed to teach them not to do that.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Like, I get it. You're trying to showcase, like you
probably in a movie, like you tell the kids normally
you don't do this this. You're trying to be little
pieces of shit. Okay, your little pieces of shit in
this movie act act like pieces of shit and don't
do it anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Uh do you really think that these people did that.
I don't know when they did what they did with
the rats.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
No, no, Darlne, we're not talking about that. That's look,
I'll be fair. The rat thing. I'm knocking points off
this movie.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Getting kids to do some mean, cruel things is not
right either.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
My gut reaction says, I don't want to recommend the
movie because of the rats, but yeah, I can't because
the rest of the movie outside of that is actually
pretty good. Like it really is good, right. It elicited emotions,
it told a story.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
And it's less bonkers than the last one.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Yeah, but it kept us engaged, right, Like, it's difficult
for me to to give it amount of time, Like
I'm gonna recommend it with the asterisk of Dude, there's
some really upsetting shit in this There is really upsetting shit.
There are things that if you are sensitive to them,
(58:27):
do not watch this movie. I am sensitive to it.
I'm still glad I watched the movie because, look, the
rat thing really upset me. It's I know that I'm
sounding like i'm I'm, I'm I'm babbling a little bit,
but it's it's so hard to talk about I don't
(58:48):
want to talk about it. I just want to say
that it really upset me.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Right, The way that they had everybody treating Wolfgang upset.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
The hell out of that upset me too, It really did.
But I think the way they were treating Wolfgang in
this made sense in context of the plot of the movie.
The rat thing didn't. I think the way they were
treating Wolfgang in this is indicative of good writing because
(59:19):
it really did elicit emotions in us of like sympathy
towards Wolfgang and hate of these people that were being
pieces of shit to them. So I have to give
the movie credit for that, Like that's and the way
that it was shot and framed and paced, it really
worked for that. It's upsetting, but it worked. What else
(59:41):
can we say about this? I don't want to like
belabor belabored points, belabor points, but I really enjoyed the film.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
This is more watchable than the last one. Okay, except
for those scenes. Yeah, if you could cut off those scenes.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I would like to think that there's a edited version
that doesn't have that in it, and maybe I should
see because I know that there's a censored and uncensored
version of this, and we watched the uncensored because.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
See, I could see teenagers doing that, not.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Young kids, Oh being that abusive towards Wolfgang. Yes, so
it doesn't make it right either way.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
But either way, but you it makes it less. Why
did you have kids do that?
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
I would say, because it's teaching kids to be mean.
I recommend it with the asterisk. I recommend it with
the asterisk. Do not watch the SEF you're a sensitive person.
I am a sensitive person. I watch this still, what
do you give it? Ignoring the things that really upset
me that clearly are wrong? And I hate the producers
(01:00:51):
for doing it, but I can't entirely ignore it. I
don't know, darling, give what? What are you going to
give it? I have to. I still have to think.
I'm I'm really.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I am still down at the below the five level.
Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Well you get the last one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Five.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I am just because of the the few things I
just cannot it I have I have makes me mad
of the producers and that to have that ship in there.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I'm gonna I have to give it a five because
if you if you removed, if you removed the rats
and the extreme abuse, I'd probably give this like a
seven and a half eight. I probably would this would
(01:01:42):
have been a solid, like super enjoyable movie. I'm indifferent
towards it because of that, Like, I still have to
recognize that there's a lot of really well done things
in this movie. I have to recognize that I have
to be fair about it. But the things that were
upsetting we're upsetting. We're upsetting what I hope cap Yeah,
(01:02:09):
with big capital letters, but I don't think I can
give it less than five. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
And there was some wonderful scenes like that whole pushing
around in the wheelchair and and that whole her talking
when she's dying to the nurse about flowers.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
That weare's Wolfgang. He'd be here with flowers, you know,
they make me so happy, and like, yeah, that whole
scene of him pushing her in the wheelchair and she's
talking about her life and her joys and her regrets,
like it was moving.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
If I was a nurse and I had this person
that's almost dying and asking to see somebody, make sure
that I would send out somebody to go get them.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
It was moving and and I have to give the
movie credit for that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
But the one thing I have to say about that
hospital is I don't ever want to be in there.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
An abandoned hospital. So I hope, I hope everyone listening
kind of can parse out what we're trying to say,
like this is a it's it's clearly a movie of
its time. It's clearly a movie that that has very
obvious evil in it. From a production standpoint, it won't
be the it's not the first movie or the last
movie that had production stuff that we've seen that was
(01:03:35):
clearly evil.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Well, it will be the first, well one of them.
We didn't hardly even watch watch.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
It, yeah, because we were just like, no, this is
way too much. This was way too much. This was
way too much. But we we went through it, and
we wanted to talk about it and make sure that
people understand that this is a pretty well known and
well regarded movie, but it still has this.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
And the bottom of that was what uh of IBM?
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Of what he IBM? Internet Movie Database IMDb, IBM's a
computer Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
On the bottom it tells of what he got and
that the director was upset because he got it and
not the director.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Oh okay, the director was pissed off the director wasn't
nomine Well f him.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Because he didn't deserve it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
No one deserved it. Well maybe Paul Nashy did.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Paul Nashy got for his acting in this, okay. But
it was also saying that the the director was it
was some kind of film, a French film award.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Okay, Well, we'll leave it there, I guess we both
recommend it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
I don't think I'll recommend this one either.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Okay, you don't think so. So if this is a
mixed one with us for very obvious reasons. If it
wasn't for those two things, we'd probably both really strongly
recommend it. But yeah, it's mind's a very very light
recommendation with an asterisk in Yours is a nod. So
I'm Aron, I'm darling. Good evening, keep watching the skies.
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